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Handling Doubt From The People Closest To You While You Build Something New | Episode 518 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Hi everyone, it's Justin here in Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you very much for joining us, whether you're watching and listening here in the United States or abroad.
• 0:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you very much.
• 0:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's because of you.
• 0:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have a show.
• 0:14
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• 0:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Share the voices for voices podcast with them.
• 0:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We greatly appreciate that on our journey to reach and help at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 0:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, thank you for being with us uh on on this uh particular episode.
• 0:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Uh we're gonna talk a little bit about loss.
• 0:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um loss can mean a lot of definitions.
• 1:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Um not necessarily talking about the loss of in this particular episode.
• 1:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not necessarily talking about having a loss where someone passes away, where that is very important to grieve, to never forget, and just be a human being with emotions.
• 1:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What I'd like to talk about today is the loss or losses that we may encounter along the way of our story, of our being, of what we believe are it's not our will to be done, it's thy will be done, in my opinion.
• 2:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And so along the way, we find ourselves in a lot of different, a lot of different positions, a lot of different states of mind.
• 2:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And I'm very specifically talking about those of us who are doing out-of-the-box work, and with out-of-the-box work, generally, you know, there's these uh seasons of uh highs and lows, you know, depending on the season, right?
• 3:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If we're doing really well, then we're at a we're at a peak.
• 3:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If we're in the middle of the next season, the next the next thing or things, it can feel like we are in that valley.
• 3:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And are we ever going to be able to get out?
• 3:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, nothing is given.
• 3:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: At least to me.
• 4:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have to almost be ready for the loss.
• 4:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So the loss of friends or members of the family, or just like that's just that's crazy, that's never gonna happen.
• 4:39
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not here boasting saying that I am iconic, that I'm an icon.
• 4:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm not saying that.
• 4:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What I am saying is in the song it talks about having out-of-the-box ideas, talks about people not always understanding what we're what we're working on, what we're doing, that sometimes, well, for me a lot of times, it's like, oh yeah, that's never gonna happen.
• 5:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That that'll never happen.
• 5:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You're making it up, it's AI, it's it's everything except wow.
• 5:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I really hope this succeeds.
• 5:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Right?
• 5:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you're if you're in you're in the same family and friends, you know, you and I, we want we want people to be on our side.
• 6:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and that song iconic talks about having you know these dreams of wanting to succeed and wanting to help, or whatever our dreams are in the face of adversity, they can come very close to us.
• 6:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: See, some of us, I'll include myself, we think adversity only comes from you know, that outside world, not friends or family or or that.
• 6:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So when it does come to fruition, when and if it comes to fruition, then it's like, okay, been working on this for a year and a half, two years, been called every name in the book, lazy, you name it, and this is for those of you out there like me, who are kind of looked at like, mmm, that's never gonna happen, you're never gonna do that.
• 7:51
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why would they include you in that?
• 7:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why what have you done?
• 7:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You don't know those people, and so what do we have to do?
• 8:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We have to we have to be strong, strong mentally and physically, but a majority of it's mental, and that's why I think I spend so much time focusing on my mental health because that's where a lot of the battles they actually happen inside our mind of why'd they say that?
• 8:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why didn't they say this?
• 8:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And why did they do this and not do that, or why'd they do that and not this?
• 8:55
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And and what if, what if, what if, what if?
• 8:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I've been there, done that, and I'm sure there's gonna be times in the future I'm gonna be in that same boat.
• 9:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I'm trying to just talk through this, these feelings, these feelings of alienation from people that we love as I just I said earlier, what nothing's given, and so when opportunities arise, we can either just walk away and say, oh no, that's just that's never gonna amount to anything, or the opposite, and say to ourselves, you know what, I don't know how this fits in the mold, how this fits in the future, but I'm gonna try it.
• 10:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And that and those are the people that I'm talking to and talking about here with myself.
• 10:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, it's it sucks to Again, it sucks to have people we love kind of look at us with that like I don't think so.
• 10:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's not gonna happen.
• 10:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It hurts feelings, hurts my feelings.
• 10:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, somebody in my circle says, Justin, I think I want to do this.
• 11:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Or what have you been working on?
• 11:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I think we shouldn't be so so quick a judgment.
• 11:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So quick a judgment.
• 11:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's that gossip, right?
• 11:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh, he thinks he's gonna do this, and that's never gonna happen, or she's working on, she says she's talking to this person that there's no way that person would ever talk to them.
• 11:52
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And again, for the most part, a lot of the people that are in the gossip have no clue what it what it's taken, what it will take.
• 12:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And what if he's talking to them?
• 12:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What if there is something coming up?
• 12:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What if there's a tour?
• 12:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: See, those are the things that I'm talking about for what ifs.
• 12:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We can what if anything?
• 12:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Somebody came to me and said, Joseph, I'm working on this, and I'll say, Well, what if this actually happens?
• 12:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That'd be pretty sweet.
• 12:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You know, we're here to root you on, you know, there's gonna be a times of a dry, dry desert where there's no rain to be seen for days and months and maybe years.
• 13:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And then once that rain starts, and positive things begin manifesting call into the ether, into the into society.
• 13:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Then we get called vindictive and just trying to put somebody down and and and and and you get the drift.
• 14:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, how are we supposed to act?
• 14:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How are not even act?
• 14:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How are we supposed to be when for days, weeks, months, sometimes years, we've been put down while he's making these stupid videos.
• 14:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh really?
• 14:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 14:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's no way this person would ever talk to you.
• 14:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why would they?
• 14:32
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Who are you?
• 14:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's like I'm not haven't changed.
• 14:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I found what I'm passionate about.
• 14:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How would you like it if somebody did that to you and said, Oh yeah, he's out of his mind or she's out of control?
• 15:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Wouldn't feel good, would it?
• 15:05
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You want somebody in your corner, and you shouldn't have to look into that outside world to finally find somebody for your corner.
• 15:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There will be people outside that are in your corner, in my corner.
• 15:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: However, it I don't know what it is, I don't know why it is, I just I just don't know.
• 15:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's it just sucks.
• 16:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Tucks have you know people you love going, oh yeah, he's full of it.
• 16:10
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He's lazy.
• 16:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: He just sits on the chair, sits on the couch, makes these stupid videos.
• 16:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Never gonna mount anything.
• 16:38
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I say okay.
• 16:43
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's your stance on this what we're doing.
• 16:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Things, experiences, events, blah blah blah.
• 16:58
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: When if these things, experiences actually play themselves out.
• 17:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Then we get faced with another question.
• 17:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Well, do we include include people?
• 17:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: The very people that have been putting us down for years or weeks or months.
• 17:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's really what it comes down to.
• 17:54
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Things are this is AI, it's never gonna happen.
• 18:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Wasting your time, need to do something else.
• 18:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Cause it's not happening right this very second.
• 18:21
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: How about if and when it does happen this very second?
• 18:31
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's called jumping on the bandwagon.
• 18:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I learned a lot about that in sports.
• 18:41
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Where you know, like the New York Yankees or Boston Red Sox or whatever baseball team.
• 18:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't matter.
• 18:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm just using those because the Dodgers, because they're you know, the some of the larger fan bases.
• 19:07
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: They're gonna make the playoffs, they're gonna make the World Series, they're gonna win the World Series.
• 19:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So that's it's when events are already happening, and then people make a decision.
• 19:33
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh yeah, I really love the Yankees, I love the Dodgers.
• 19:44
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Same thing could be said for what I'm going through, what you may be going through.
• 19:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Somebody you know may be going through.
• 19:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Oh yeah, things are happen okay, yeah.
• 20:02
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Include me and I include me and I why wouldn't you include certain certain people I don't know That's the trillion dollar question I don't know what to do I don't I don't know there's no manual So these are the types of questions that we're faced with these are the questions These are the thoughts that play out in our mind every day and every night And so instead of maybe enjoying the moment the moment goes so fast that we don't even have a chance to enjoy it because we've been so caught up with our minds and wanting to please everybody.
• 21:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I don't know how things will turn out.
• 21:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know anybody that does except God, Jesus.
• 21:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm a believer, you don't have to be a believer to be part of the Voices for Voices family, but just know.
• 22:00
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's at least one person that believes in you.
• 22:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That is you.
• 22:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Again, an idea may go viral the first time or the five hundredth time.
• 22:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Or never at all.
• 22:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I just don't want to be in my later years thinking, man, I wish I would at least tried this.
• 22:50
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, people talk about being on our deathbed and some people having regrets.
• 23:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Like, oh, I wish I would have traveled more.
• 23:08
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We didn't have a lot of money.
• 23:11
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We had enough.
• 23:14
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But the older I got, the less I wanted to go.
• 23:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I wish I would have had that show.
• 23:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I wish I would have gone to that event.
• 23:28
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I wish I would have met that person.
• 23:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I wish I would have talked to that person.
• 23:35
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just remember, anything worth anything worth it.
• 23:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Positive outcome.
• 23:59
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It takes work.
• 24:01
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And it's gonna take a lot of people that are naysayers.
• 24:09
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Doesn't mean you don't still love the people.
• 24:23
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But how do how do we listen?
• 24:25
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Somebody that's never or very briefly tried the entrepreneurial way.
• 24:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: It's just like why would we take money advice from somebody who's broke?
• 24:53
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Why would we take entrepreneurial advice from somebody that's never or just had a brief stint of being an entrepreneur?
• 25:03
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We wouldn't, would we?
• 25:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We would turn to them in other cases when it's their expertise.
• 25:13
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But just that human instinct of no, that's never gonna happen.
• 25:20
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 25:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's okay.
• 25:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Everybody's entitled to their own opinion.
• 25:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Remember?
• 25:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I talked about the first amendment so much.
• 25:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's okay.
• 25:36
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: If others, whoever they may be, you know, they start whispering when you come in the room, or they talk behind your back, or they sit outside instead of coming in the house.
• 26:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Heaven forbid they'd have to actually say hi to me.
• 26:15
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Cause I'm just, you know, such a toxic person.
• 26:22
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah.
• 26:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Okay.
• 26:29
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Just remember we all have brains.
• 26:45
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We can forgive, but we never forget.
• 27:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: But I've been willing to talk about talk about them and admit to them.
• 27:17
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Other people they don't they wouldn't as much as go as far as say that they've ever made a mistake.
• 27:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'm talking about right here, right now.
• 27:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What's happening, what's going on.
• 27:49
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: What may be going on at a point in the future.
• 28:06
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And again, there's nobody's promised another day, another hour, another minute, another second.
• 28:16
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I'd rather look at things optimistically, knowing that, than not.
• 28:26
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: That's how I like to look at things.
• 28:34
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm no expert on mental health.
• 28:37
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I'm an expert on my mental health.
• 28:42
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: I don't know what I've been diagnosed with and medication and that.
• 28:48
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So I can only share my experiences.
• 28:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Getting help is not the end of the road.
• 29:04
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: You have to you have to ask for help every once in a while.
• 29:12
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Every single one of us.
• 29:18
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We do.
• 29:30
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you very much for tuning in to this episode of the show, the podcast.
• 29:36
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• 29:56
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• 29:59
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• 30:00
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• 30:02
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• 30:19
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Over 515.
• 30:24
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: There's no word to explain it.
• 30:27
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We just keep going, we keep sharing.
• 30:34
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• 30:40
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: So until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.
• 30:47
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: And let us all celebrate the voices of everybody all across the world.
• 30:56
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: We'll see you next time.
• 30:57
  Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes: Bye bye.