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9/11 to Charlie Kirk's Assassination -- The Unraveling of America | Yaron Brook Show · Yaron Brook Show

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  Speaker 1: Eleven, fundamental principles of freedom, rational self interest, and individual runs.
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  Speaker 2: This is the yurran Brook Show, right everybody, welcome to
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  Speaker 2: you on book show on this September eleventh, twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 2: A day September eleventh, that will always.
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  Speaker 3: Standing in for me.
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  Speaker 1: We will always remember that day. I will always remember
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  Speaker 1: that day. I know some of you might be too
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  Speaker 1: young to remember that day, but always remember nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and one.
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  Speaker 3: So today I.
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  Speaker 1: Thought we talked about nine to eleven, What we can
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  Speaker 1: learn from nine to eleven, what we have learned from
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven, The connection between nine to eleven and.
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  Speaker 3: What happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: To whoops snow video to Charlie Cook, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: to what extent.
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  Speaker 3: Is what happened yesterday kind of a consequence.
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  Speaker 1: Of what has happened over the last twenty four years
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  Speaker 1: and where we've gone. I view nine to eleven is
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  Speaker 1: a seminal event of of well the century.
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  Speaker 3: But the century is young, and it was right at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of the century.
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  Speaker 1: But it is an event that has shaped America since then,
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  Speaker 1: It has shaped geopolitics since then, and it is the
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  Speaker 1: event that I think more than any has led to
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  Speaker 1: where we are today in America, probably the most significant
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  Speaker 1: event in.
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  Speaker 3: American history since I don't know, since World War.
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  Speaker 1: Two maybe, and not in a good way, in a
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  Speaker 1: very negative way, and impacting our lives in a very
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  Speaker 1: negative way. And again I think ultimately yesterday's murder assassination
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  Speaker 1: of Charlie Cook is a consequence of a process started
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  Speaker 1: in two thousand and one. There was also today a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting and I think significant article written by Nile
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson in the Free Press Ossam bin Ladin's humanous posthumous victory,
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  Speaker 1: where there's a sense in which he declares Ossam bin
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  Speaker 1: Ladin is winning. And I think he's right, and we
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  Speaker 1: can talk about that and exactly what is tearing apart
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  Speaker 1: the West. A quick update since we are we do
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  Speaker 1: do news here on the Ilon Book Show during the week.
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  Speaker 1: Quick update and where we are with the Charlie Cook assassination.
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  Speaker 1: There is no video of the person who killed Charlie Cook.
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  Speaker 1: They have they do have a video of him.
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  Speaker 3: They do photos of him.
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  Speaker 1: They distributed photos and there's now a reward for any
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  Speaker 1: information about him. They have found a they have found
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  Speaker 1: a the rifle that was used and it's a it's
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  Speaker 1: a hunting rifle. It's an old hunting rifle. And now
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  Speaker 1: they are claims that on the cottridges from the hunting
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  Speaker 1: rifle they are Antifa and protrans I guess symbol statements,
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  Speaker 1: but I also saw things that say, well, that's not accurate,
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  Speaker 1: that's not that's not true. So hard to tell. But
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  Speaker 1: they do have the rifle, and they do a video
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  Speaker 1: of the guy, so they walk. Now it's just a
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  Speaker 1: question of time to figure out exactly who he is
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  Speaker 1: and to find him and to catch him and to
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  Speaker 1: discover the the ultimate motivation. Uh, you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: still highly looks highly likely that this is some left
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  Speaker 1: this not.
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  Speaker 3: Who did this, somebody who is.
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  Speaker 1: You don't wish Charlie Cook dead and was willing to
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  Speaker 1: take action to do it, which requires a certain evil
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  Speaker 1: but also potentially a certain sickness.
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  Speaker 3: So so this is this is this is a.
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  Speaker 1: Bad guy, right, this is there some bad guy who
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  Speaker 1: who did this. It's also interesting just from the news
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  Speaker 1: aspect of it, but is related to a broader theme,
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  Speaker 1: will be related to about a theme that immediately I'm
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  Speaker 1: seeing all over the place conspiracy theories about this. The
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  Speaker 1: rifle is not the real rifle. The shooter is not
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  Speaker 1: a leftist but a professional. Behind us is a security
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  Speaker 1: an intelligence agency. We won't say which country, but maybe
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  Speaker 1: it starts with a you, or maybe it starts with
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  Speaker 1: an eye, but it's yeah, it's either Ukraine or Israel
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  Speaker 1: is really behind this. Charlie was anti Ukraine, kind of
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  Speaker 1: pro Russia and was tilting maybe in the last few
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  Speaker 1: weeks away from Israel and what was doing in Gaza,
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  Speaker 1: and was becoming critical of Israel. At least that's the
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories Israel that came out, other conspiracy theories, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. At the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: most of the conspiracy theories they're seen about Charlie Cook's death,
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  Speaker 1: just like most conspiracy theories about pretty much anything in life,
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  Speaker 1: ultimately have the Jews doing it.
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  Speaker 3: So the Jews doing it.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just say add to what I said yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: As you know, as I've said many times, I know Charlie.
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  Speaker 1: I knew him when he was significant younger. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: met him probably the last time I saw him was
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  Speaker 1: just before COVID, I think in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen,
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  Speaker 1: maybe even as late as twenty seventeen earliest twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, and I liked him in those days.
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  Speaker 1: He has been he had been a real source of
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  Speaker 1: disappointment to me over the last over the last five
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  Speaker 1: six years, as he became more and more embedded in MAGA.
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  Speaker 1: I think he was wrong on many many things, and
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  Speaker 1: really really bad on many many things. But nothing he said,
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  Speaker 1: nothing is said, justifies his killing.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing he said justifies his murder.
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  Speaker 1: And it's disgusting, and it's scary, and.
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  Speaker 3: So so where the countries going and and what comes next?
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  Speaker 1: There were a number of i'd say fringe left as
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  Speaker 1: celebrating this murder. Most of the establishment left, most of
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  Speaker 1: the people in Democratic Party and the establishment left are
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  Speaker 1: condemning this, and many of them seemingly very emotional about it.
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  Speaker 3: Senec I think I'm pronouncing his name, and I've seen some.
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  Speaker 1: Others who got very emotional about it and really condemning this,
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  Speaker 1: even even.
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  Speaker 3: What's his name.
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  Speaker 1: The guy I did a little clip with the socialist,
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  Speaker 1: Hassan Parker or whatever his name is, was very it
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  Speaker 1: was very condemned this. But there's still there a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people on the left celebrating this. And I did
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  Speaker 1: see some people just being interviewed on the street on
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  Speaker 1: campuses where students were saying, yeah, I mean, this is
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  Speaker 1: a good thing that somebody shot Charlie Cook. So there
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  Speaker 1: there certainly is that at the fringe, there is that element.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that dominates the left. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: what the left means. I don't think it dominates the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party. But it's a it's a it's a great
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to demonize everybody to the left of center and
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  Speaker 1: make this about everybody left of center as a communist.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody left the sender's a homocidomdiac. Everybody in the left
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  Speaker 1: of center wants to wants to plunge this country into
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  Speaker 1: a civil war that serves some people's agenda. Sadly, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: many people on the right are using terminology and and
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  Speaker 1: and language that is truly scary in terms of calling
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  Speaker 1: in a sense for revenge, for cleaning house, for running
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  Speaker 1: up the entire Democratic Party, for outlawing the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: for I mean again, this.
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  Speaker 3: These the ringe voices on the right that are calling
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  Speaker 3: for this.
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  Speaker 1: But it's given that the right is the party in power,
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  Speaker 1: it's sometimes how to tell what it's fringe and what
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  Speaker 1: is not.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's scary to think what could be done in
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  Speaker 1: the name of retribution, what could be done in the
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  Speaker 1: name of Oh, we're just trying to stop those violent leftists.
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  Speaker 1: And it's scary that the left has gotten to a point,
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  Speaker 1: or certain people in the left have gotten to a
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  Speaker 1: point where this is how they're expressing themselves through acts
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  Speaker 1: of violence. So political violence is likely to increase. We've
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  Speaker 1: I think this has been true, you know, for a
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  Speaker 1: decade now, and it's likely to increase. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: see any adults in the room who can calm things
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  Speaker 1: down and bring people together to talk and and and
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  Speaker 1: to really to really, you know, to really kind of
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  Speaker 1: figure this out and and and solve the problems. And
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  Speaker 1: and it could very well be that the problems, the
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  Speaker 1: philosophical problems that have created this gap in America splinter
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  Speaker 1: in America as such that it's it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: very it's not clear how to resolve them in a
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  Speaker 1: healthy way. I can see how to resolve them in
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  Speaker 1: unhealthy ways. But but let's hope it doesn't get to that.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hope it doesn't get to them. But at all,
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  Speaker 1: in a sense, started with nine to eleven. Nine to
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  Speaker 1: eleven is when the lies at scale, I think, started
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  Speaker 1: and the lies became more and more and more blatant, blatant.
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  Speaker 1: Nine to eleven, or immediately after nine eleven, we were
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  Speaker 1: immediately told that the war we were facing, the war
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  Speaker 1: that we faced, was not a war with Islam. It
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  Speaker 1: was not a religious war and had nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: indeed with religion. Islam was a religion of peace. We
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  Speaker 1: were told by President Bush. There was haijak by extremists.
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  Speaker 1: Ramadan was celebrated a month after nine to eleven. Ramadan
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  Speaker 1: was celebrated at the White House. The appeasement of Islam
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  Speaker 1: and of Muslims uh went from the top, from the
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  Speaker 1: president all the way down throughout our culture. And indeed,
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  Speaker 1: the first time I saw real demonstrations on campuses and
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  Speaker 1: and and and and islands on campuses, and the first
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  Speaker 1: time I felt threatened on campuses on a campus was
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  Speaker 1: during those days after nine to eleven, giving talks and
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  Speaker 1: farm policy on campuses was dangerous. We had demonstrations, riots, attacks.
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  Speaker 1: The same people today in the Free Palestine movement. We're
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  Speaker 1: in the where you can't condemn Muslims for this movement.
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  Speaker 1: Back then, you can't show Mohammed cartoons movement back then,
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  Speaker 1: you can't offend Muslims at all. The argument was this
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  Speaker 1: is terrorism, it was some extreme sect. If you were
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  Speaker 1: a libertarian then or a leftist, then you argued that
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  Speaker 1: this was all America's fault anyway, and.
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  Speaker 3: We should not be.
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  Speaker 1: Responding at all. And you know, and it was all
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  Speaker 1: it was all afold. It was all afold, and who
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  Speaker 1: are we to judge? And the fact that over three
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  Speaker 1: thousand Americans died that day didn't affect anybody. If you
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  Speaker 1: think about the left, if you think about this vicious
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  Speaker 1: left that was seen today, the viciousness of celebrating.
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  Speaker 3: The death of Charlie Cook.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there were people on the left after nine to
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  Speaker 1: eleven who were celebrating the fall of the of the Towers.
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  Speaker 1: They were kind of happy that capitalism had been attacked,
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  Speaker 1: that the symbols of capitalism as they viewed it, had
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  Speaker 1: been demolished as they and the Islamist viewed it. They
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  Speaker 1: were kind of you know, the third plane went to
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  Speaker 1: the Pentagon, the symbol of American I don't know, colonialism,
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  Speaker 1: American imperialism, American oppression of people's all over the world,
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  Speaker 1: and they were.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of happy that that happened.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I think they were faith to express that,
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  Speaker 1: but very quickly they turned against anything the United States
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  Speaker 1: did in order to protect itself. Very quickly, everything the
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  Speaker 1: United States did was bad. And indeed there was them
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  Speaker 1: world were the victim, not the United States, not the
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  Speaker 1: country that was actually attacked. So the left's viciousness, the
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  Speaker 1: less hatred of capitalism, the less hatred of America, of
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  Speaker 1: Western civilization. Nine to eleven really brought that into the open.
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  Speaker 1: It was there already before that. You saw it quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit in the nineteen ninety nine demonstrations in Seattle, demonstrations,
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  Speaker 1: riots in Seattle against the World Trade Organization, the White Teo,
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  Speaker 1: a meeting in Seattle to try to cut a trade deal.
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  Speaker 1: So just the viciousness and hatred they had towards capitalism,
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  Speaker 1: and they embraced nine to eleven in that sense, and
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  Speaker 1: in a sense the the the deal. The alliance between
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  Speaker 1: the radical, the far left, and and the Islamists started
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  Speaker 1: way back then, and I think that the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: many Americans looking at that and seeing them for what
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  Speaker 1: they were. The viciousness, the hatred, the extent of that hatred,
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  Speaker 1: I think started really seeing that separation between the right
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  Speaker 1: and the left. The right almost instinctually, because they didn't
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  Speaker 1: they didn't really conceptualize it was supportive of America. America
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  Speaker 1: could do no wrong, America is good. Jeorge Juish is
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  Speaker 1: up president. He was gonna save us, he was gonna punish,
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  Speaker 1: punish the bad guys. And then there were these Americans
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  Speaker 1: who actually seem to support the bad guys. And you
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  Speaker 1: see this beginning of this, I mean of a split
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  Speaker 1: that always existed, but now was widening dramatically. Nine to eleven,
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  Speaker 1: of course, as I said, was the beginning of the lying,
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  Speaker 1: the lying about Islam, the lying about what we were
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  Speaker 1: doing in Iraq, the lying about what we were doing
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  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. How long it would take whether we won
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  Speaker 1: or we lost, whether we could win or could lose,
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  Speaker 1: what was the real military assessment, what was going on,
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  Speaker 1: the lying about our commitment to victory. And I think
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  Speaker 1: American sense that it took them a while. It took
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  Speaker 1: them a while. It wasn't until the mid to late
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  Speaker 1: two thousands that he really got it. And as I so,
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven really made everybody left and right suspicious
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  Speaker 1: of our politics, suspicious of our leaders suspicious of our
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  Speaker 1: intelligence agencies as they gained more and more information or
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  Speaker 1: they thought they gained information about what was actually going on.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you saw.
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  Speaker 1: The level of conspiracy series that came out again both
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  Speaker 1: on the left and the right of who did that?
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  Speaker 1: Techokossin just yesterday, I think was talking about the fact
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  Speaker 1: that the FBI has a file that says that the
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  Speaker 1: Israelis knew of the attack and refused to let and
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  Speaker 1: did not tell the Americans. The Jews did it, or
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  Speaker 1: the Jews weighed on it, or the Jews knew about it,
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  Speaker 1: the Jews didn't show up to work that day. Has
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  Speaker 1: been part of a story on the far right and
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  Speaker 1: the far left since nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: And again it.
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  Speaker 1: Was shocking and surprising back then to hear it, not
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  Speaker 1: chucking and surprising at all today not chucking at all today,
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  Speaker 1: because today we know that this is how so many
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  Speaker 1: Americans respond to any controversial news immediately with conspiracy theories, immediately,
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  Speaker 1: with conspiracy theories centered around what they're always centered around.
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  Speaker 3: The Jews. They did it.
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  Speaker 1: So what you see, you know, people talk about the
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  Speaker 1: rush horshoe theory. I mean that was evident already after
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  Speaker 1: nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: With the conspiracy theories.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a sense in which it's always been true
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  Speaker 1: that the fall right and the fall left are very
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  Speaker 1: very similar to one another, because they're both collectivists, they're
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  Speaker 1: both irrational, they're both mystical in different ways, but they're
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  Speaker 1: both mystical, and the result of that is of their mysticism,
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  Speaker 1: is that they're both the same. They both share the
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  Speaker 1: same kind of irrationalities. Two thousand and eight, then was
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  Speaker 1: the second trigger of the twenty first century where America's
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  Speaker 1: lost all faith and all trust and all belief. And
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  Speaker 1: up to that point it was faith, trust, and belief.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't knowledge of capitalism. They thought they had capitalism.
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  Speaker 1: It failed them. They were traumatized by it. It was
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  Speaker 1: blamed on capitalism. Nobody stood up to defend capitalism. And
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  Speaker 1: again it was bushed that bailed out the banks and
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  Speaker 1: bailed out everybody else. And everybody's bailing out everybody except
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  Speaker 1: for the little guy who didn't get bailed out at all.
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  Speaker 1: And that distrust, that hatred, that sense that everybody's lying,
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  Speaker 1: that sense that the experts don't know what they're doing,
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  Speaker 1: that the authorities are completely confused and have no clue.
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  Speaker 1: That grew and got substantiated during the two thousand and
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  Speaker 1: eight two thousand and nine crisis, and out of that
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  Speaker 1: came the Tea Party, and the Tea Party was a.
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  Speaker 3: Response to.
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  Speaker 1: A distrust of government, a sense that things have gone
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  Speaker 1: too far, that mixed economy had completely failed, and we
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  Speaker 1: needed to do something. And there was something in our past.
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  Speaker 1: They were finding fathers that was good and we need
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  Speaker 1: to return to that, and we need to find that,
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  Speaker 1: and we need to re embrace that. But as I
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  Speaker 1: said many times, it was non intellectual. It was not
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  Speaker 1: founded on proper principle. It was not grounded and a
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  Speaker 1: true understanding of the founders of what or of what
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  Speaker 1: America is. But it was a last gasp. It was
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  Speaker 1: a last gasp of America. It was a last gap
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  Speaker 1: of Americanism in this country. It was a very weak gasp,
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  Speaker 1: it was very pathetic gasp in many ways, but it
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  Speaker 1: was a last gasp of an attempt, an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: resurrect something of the goodness that is at the hearts,
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  Speaker 1: at the core of America. But it was no intellectual,
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  Speaker 1: it was not based on anything, and it got very
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  Speaker 1: quickly captured by the conspiracy theory religious right, and it
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  Speaker 1: had no place to go. It had no proper leadership,
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  Speaker 1: no political leadership, no intellectual leadership. But the one thing
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  Speaker 1: that united the Tea Party, and they united the Tea
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  Speaker 1: Party and the modern right is a vicious hatred of
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  Speaker 1: the left, a hatred tool, as you said, was justified,
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  Speaker 1: but was visceral, and on their terms, they couldn't explain it,
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't validate it. But it was hatred. It was
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  Speaker 1: hatred of Obama, everything Obama stood for. It was a
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  Speaker 1: hatred of the left and everything the left stood for.
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  Speaker 1: It was a feeling, and it was a feeling more
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  Speaker 1: than anything else, that American being betrayed, that American being
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  Speaker 1: stabbed in the back. And it had be But by
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  Speaker 1: whom was it? The left who had betrayed America? They
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  Speaker 1: didn't know, They still don't know. And what you got
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  Speaker 1: was these two parties, the left and the right, becoming
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  Speaker 1: more and more emotional, more and more vicious.
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  Speaker 3: You know, what do you call it?
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  Speaker 1: The Tea Party was happening at the same time as
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  Speaker 1: Occupy Wall Street, manifestations of very similar emotions, very similar conspiracies,
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  Speaker 1: very similar frustrations, but one hearkening back to a past
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  Speaker 1: of goodness, so it had a base in goodness because
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  Speaker 1: there was a past, and the other just being nihilistic
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  Speaker 1: and not knowing what to before they knew what they
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  Speaker 1: were against Wall Street business. Inequality was the big issue.
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  Speaker 1: The rich, those were all the bad guys, but they
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  Speaker 1: didn't know where to go for the good other than
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  Speaker 1: towards socialism. And what you already started to get is
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  Speaker 1: this clash, this clash of right and left, this clash
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  Speaker 1: of socialists, American haters and American lovers, but who don't
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  Speaker 1: really understand what America is, don't know what America is,
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  Speaker 1: can't articulate what America is, latching onto a past that
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: is no longer here, and of course we know the
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: story from there, you know, the Tea Party and the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: right latched onto Donald Trump as a savior of something
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they don't again, can't articulate what of America, but what America?
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: What does America mean to them? America to Donald Trump
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: is very different than America that the Tea Party tried
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: to articulate, that the Tea Party seemed.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: To refer to in history.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump's America is very different than that America that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they seem to be supporting, and the rift, which is
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: primarily emotional and cultural, just kept getting deeper and deeper.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: And let's just say that in the meantime, because this
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: is important for the legacy of nine to eleven. In
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: the meantime, then the lessons of nine to eleven were
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: never learned. The enemy was never really identify, and by
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: any account, the United States did not win. We clearly
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: lost in Afghanistan, handed it over to the enemy, returned
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: it to the enemy under Trump and Biden, Trump signing
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: the peace deal, Biden literally handing it over or fleeing
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: with his tail between the legs from Afghanistan and leaving
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: it to the Taliban. Iraq was never really one. Was
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: still there. It's still not one. The Swamish cause has morphed.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: It's morphed into a smarter cause, although you know, it's
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: mophed into a more political cause than a terrorism cause.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Although of course Hamas.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Is the last remnant of the militant side of the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Islamist cause, and it's it's it's going to continue more
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: because you know, maybe it is Israel that is finally
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: winning the war on terror. But as as Neil Ferguson says,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: maybe we won the war on terror. It looks like
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: we won the word terror that they know real Islamic
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: terrorist attacks in the United States at least, But it
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: really does look like being a Latin won the geopolitical war,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the bigger war, or is winning it. Think about the
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: fact again, you know, Afghanistan is in their hands. Islamism,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Islam as a religion is growing significantly. Islam is a
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: religion in Europe is going significantly, and the European islam
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Is to be quite radicalized. They seem to be committed
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to Sharia law. They seem to be committed to the
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: lack of separation between state, church and state, or mosque
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and state. And they seem to be winning. Not in
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the battlefield. They can't win in the battlefield, not even
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: with terrorism. They can't win with terrorism. You know, it
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't take much from intelligence, for intelligence services in our
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: military to crush them, to crush their efforts, even terrorist wise,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: even with asymmetrical warfare, it doesn't take that much to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: defeat them. Look at isis it had it had it today,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: but it couldn't survive. But where they win, as in
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: the cultural war, where they win in the fact that
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: nobody is going to publish a cartoon of Muhammad in
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Europe or the United States. Indeed, in you Europe, nobody
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: is going to say anything negative about Islam. Indeed, in
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the UK, if you treat something negative about Islam, you
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: might get a call from the police. Islam is untouchable.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: They've won there, and to some extent that's true in America.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: They now have admirers of sharia law, both on the right,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson and on the far left, the whole Free
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Palestine movement. Look at the demonstrations all over Europe and
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the United States, the pomas.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: You know they weren't all Muslims.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: A lot of Americans, a lot of Europeans, non Muslim Europeans,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: non Muslim Americans joining those demonstrations. The left left to
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: students today, hate Israel, hate Jews in America. In that sense,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: they're winning. Then again, they can't win in the battlefields.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: They won't win in the battlefield. What they will win
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: is an eroding America, in eroding who we are, a confidence,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: a belief in ourselves, eroding our willingness to stand up
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: and protect our things. And maybe the thing that has
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: eroded most that the Muslims Islam has been an example
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: of the biggest erosion of all which is directly linked
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: to yesterday's murder of Charlie. Is they have eroded. They
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: have managed to erode a confidence, a belief in freedom speech.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Because what was attacked yesterday.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, Charlie was attacked yesterday, murdered yesterday, butchered yesterday.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: But was this you know, it represented an attack his
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: ability to speak. He was attacked the cause of what
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: he spoke, because he was speaking. And it's a fact
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: that the United States government is not being willing to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: protect people, is not being willing to protect the right
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to speak. It is a fact that European governments embraced
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the Muslim attacks on free speech. Not just willing to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: protect people from attacks by Muslims on this speech. They
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: embraced the attacks on spreech speech. They made them part
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: of the law. They took anti blasphemy and put it
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: into European law. It's not about protecting Assalam University. It's
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: now the UK government and German government, French government are
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: going after you for speech that is critical of Islam.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: The whole culture of free speech changed after nine eleven,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and certainly changed with Danish cartoons. I mean, the first
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: illustration of this was Solomon Versity, the fatua on Salomon Rosity,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and I think nineteen eighty nine, a long time ago,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine, And what an opportunity for an American
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: president and American intellectuals, an American culture to stand up
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: and declare unequivocal support for free speech and declare Ila
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Romani his fatua is the enemy of everything good. What
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to stand up for Western civilization they had
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine when this fatwah was released, And instead,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: what did they do? A mealy mouthed condemnation wrapped up
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in you know, you shouldn't really, you know, insult religion.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: You really shouldn't do this, Solomon, you shouldn't do it.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: And you know when bookstores in New York a firebomb
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: because they carried the book? Did this create a firestorm?
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Did this creed and he you know, did the intellectuals
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: rise up? Did our politicians rise up? Was there was
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: there momentum around doing something about this? No nobody cared.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Nobody cared. Indeed, Solomon had to live in fear for
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: most of the rest of his life. He still does
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: and of course a few years ago it was attacked
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: in America while on stage by a knife wielding potential
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: assassin who was inspired by the I toolists thought one
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and was explicitly so. And was there a lot of
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: outrage over that when that happened, when that happened just recently,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: was there a lot of outrage? No?
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: No, just you know, people shrugged it off. Nobody cared.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, he lost an eye, he lost partial use
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of woman, one of his arms, and he almost lost
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: his life. When the Danish cartoons were published, did any
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: American publication by the publish the cartoons?
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: Nope, nope, we did that in an institute.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Did when they were published? You know? And and there
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: were riots in the other world and embassies were burned
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and people were attacked. Did this lead to real condemnation
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: from American and Western intellectuals and American and and and
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Western thinkers of leaders and political leaders? Is that it
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: leads to action to defend the rights of free speech
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: of Americans and Europeans. No again, George Worsch, This time
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: the son, not the father, came out with a medium
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: mouse statement about this is bad. They shouldn't riot and stuff,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: but really, you shouldn't draw cartoons of Muhammad. You really
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: shouldn't insult their religions. The best we could do. There's
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: been a steady deterioration, a steady deterioration in the culture
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of speech in the West and in the protection of
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: free speech by the government in the West since Solomon Rosity,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and really since nine eleven. You weren't supposed to show
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the cartoons on campus like we did, like I did,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: like the Institute did. You weren't supposed to criticize Islam
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like we did. There were demonstrations, and yes, in those
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: days we got some good police protection, and they weren't
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: anyone here as violence as they later became. You weren't
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: allowed to micrograss, you weren't allowed to say things were
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: non PC you weren't allowed to trigger people. I mean
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the two thousands of being just one attack after free
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: speech after another attack after free speech, and it's just bills.
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: And we've accepted violence in the name of it. We
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: accepted violence, and we've accepted that really both sides. And
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I know it's Bodhism. But whereas the left is led
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: on the issue of free speech, the right has embraced
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: rejection of free speech. And you know, Charlie yesterday lost
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: his life exactly for that.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: For his speech.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: It was not tolerated by certain people or by a person,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: and therefore it ended. And people are celebrating his death
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: because they couldn't handle the fact that somebody spoke. And
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of what Charlie said was wrong. A lot
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: of what Charlie said was offensive, really offensive, and really wrong,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't change the fact that he right to
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: say it. Right. So, I think a lot of this,
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: a lot of the division in American society, a lot
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: of the angster we feel, a lot of the hatred,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of emotionalism started in nine to eleven and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: has only intensified since. I think, I'll distrust we have
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: in all our entire leadership has only intensified since nine
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to eleven, and they've given us plenty of reasons for it,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: if you count the financial crisis, and then COVID just
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: takes it over the top. And then if you add
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to that, a coddling of islam, our refusal to stand
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: up our right to speak honestly about it, on willingness
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to talk, to debate, to discuss, a coddling of the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: bad guys has led again to division, but has also
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: led to a real lack of respect for the whole
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: concept of free speech.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: And what we see today is just much more vicious.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Versions of the same kind of attitudes that we saw
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: after nine to eleven. The programace is you know, September
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: October seventh for Israel was many multiples in terms of
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: the number of victims as a percentage of the population
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: of nine to eleven. It was Israel's nine to eleven
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: in spades. And whereas with nine to eleven the United
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: States got a lot of sympathy, certainly from the entire
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: free world, and for much of the world, Israel got
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: no sympathy, of very little sympathy after October seventh, that
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: certainly not once it's started to defend itself. We have
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: come a long way in our appeasement of Islam, of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: appeasement of evil, of our willingness to abandon all values.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: Of a willingness to reject Western civilization.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: We've come a long ways as a culture in embracing
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: the Islamist cause, uniting the Islamist cause with the leftist cause,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: and rejecting everything this country stands for, and you know.
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: Everything in the Western civilization and stands for.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: And you know, I hope that nine ten yesterday lands
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: up being an insignificant moment in history. I hope that
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Charlie's Charlie Cooke's murder will land up just being.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: A you know, a crazy man.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: It shot Charlie Cook, killed him, and nothing happens.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: I hope that's the outcome. Nothing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But there is a real chance that this is the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: lighting of a fuse that sets off a whole chain
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: of violence, and that it's going to be very difficult
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to stop a chain of violence.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: You could argue, you know, the.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Nine to eleven started, and now we are turning against
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: each other, which again strengthens the Muslims as a competitor
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: of ours, as an enemy of our strength.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: That's even more.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But it turns us against each other. I think that's
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: ultimately what bin Laden achieved.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: It wasn't his.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I don't think he. I don't think he really achieved it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He is the trigger. What achieved is the lack of
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: a coherent ideology, the lack of Coheeran philosophy, the lack
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: of a coherent ideology behind this country, a rejection of
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the founding principles a rejection of the founding ideals and
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: just a kind of a complete mixed economy, a complete
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: abandonment of any principles on all sides. And he turned
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: towards more and more fascism, statism on both sides, a
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: rejection of America on both sides. And that really happened
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: when the Tea Party shifted from being a tea party
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to voting for Donald Trump. Basically rejected defining fathers, rejected
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: defunding principles, rejected America, and that continues. So let's hope,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you know, nothing comes of this. Let's hope that while
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: now and the eleven will always be remembered, Charlie's death
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: will not.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: It will be remembered as a tragic, one off occurrence.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Let's hope it's not the beginning of something bigger, it's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: not the beginning of, you know, a much more a
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: chain of political violence between the American left and the
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: American right. Maybe maybe it's even an opportunity to reconsider
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: opposition of free speech, to elevate it again, elevated again,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to rededicate ourselves to protecting speech, to protecting speech exactly
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: from the kind of violence that Muslims have tried to
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: inflict on Solomon Ushti on the draws of the Danish cartoons,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and that the monster who killed Charlie Cooky yesterday was
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: inflicting and so many demonstrators on TIFA have tried when
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they try.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: To silence people on campuses.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And by the way, look if you if you tolerate
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: the Antifa like antics, Antifa like violence where they silence
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and silence, and he just tolerated and you accept it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: and it becomes part of the culture, then at some
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: point that violence is going to become worse. At some
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: point that's going to be elevated.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I wanted to mention this article by now focusing today,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: which I think is worth reading. It's in the free press,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: because not really. He takes the he takes the story
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: from nine to eleven to today, and he describes much
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: of what I described in terms of the unwillingness of
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: people able to recognize Islam as the enemy, and he
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: says he was one of them. He wouldn't recognize him.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: He refused to acknowledge that this was a battle in
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: a sense of civilization. So though again I don't like
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: calling Islamic world today a civilization, it's not it was terrorism,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: it was jew politics, it was this, it was that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: And he said it took him only until recently for
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: him to realize. So no, and I think what's happening
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: in UK and what's happening is jew is forcing him
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: to realize this. No, this is truly a battle between
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the West and Islam, war a certain version of Islam.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: Twenty four years.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: It's taken him to realize this.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: Again, we were saying this, We were saying this right
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: after nine to eleven, and that Islam is in many
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: respect winning. It's winning primarily not because it's not because
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: it has truth and knowledge and its side, not because
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: it's able. It's winning because we refuse to defend our values.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: It's winning because we do rather fight each other than
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to fight the real enemy. It's willing because it's winning
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: because we in the West are giving up on our values,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: are giving up on our ideals, are giving up in
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the concepts of.
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: Free speech and individual rights.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Not because of the Muslims, but because we can defend them,
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: because we can't protect them, because we have given up
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: on them intellectually, philosophically, we've given up on them. So yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: you know, Islam is not winning because it's strong. Islam
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: is winning because we are weak. We refuse to stand
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: up our values. We refuse to fight intellectually for what
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: we believe in. We refuse to unite around the truth.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: We'd rather kill each other over forces, over the lies.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: We'd rather engage in conspiracy theories than actually evaluating what
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: happens and what the truth actually is. So I mean,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, this is going to
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: be about free speech. At the end of the day,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: free speech is a core Western value and it is
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: what we should be standing up for. It is what
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: we should be arguing for against attacks from all directions.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: And we should be doing it in Europe given the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: horrifica tax aganstry speech by governments in Europe, and we
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: should be doing in the United States given the attacks
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: like on Charlie here in the United States against the
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: right to speak, the engage in ideas, They engage with ideas,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: all right, So in my view, you know, this is
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: all connected. It's all the erosion of the confidence that
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: we have in who we are or not the erosion
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: even a loss. I think America has lost, It's lost
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: its weight. It doesn't know what it is. I'll do
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: a show this weekend on what is America? But we've
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: lost what is America. This is why you can get
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: national conservatives standing up there and saying, meg's not a
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: say of ideas. America's you know, the people who died
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: for the people. It's people, it's blood, and it's particular geography,
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: it's soil, but it is ideas. America is ideas, and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: at the core one of those core ideas is the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: right to free speech. One of its core is the
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: right to be able to peacefully argue and debate free
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: of violence, fear of oppression. That's at the core of it,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: and we needed to stand up for those ideas way
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: back in the nineteen eighties. We certainly need to stand
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: up against PC movement in nineteen nineties. We need to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: stand up against the ideas of the left when it
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: came to trigger warnings and microaggressions, and we need to
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: stand up for it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: When Donald Trump wants to.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: Silence newspapers and sue them into silence. We need to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: stand up when violence is used against those who are speaking.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: We need to defend speech and broadly, more broadly speaking,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: we need to defend the ideas that made America great,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: that made America what it is. They defined America, all right, So.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: That is what we are.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: Uh and UH. I will keep We'll keep track of
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: of of what is going on with the Charlie Cook
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: murder and who did it and and who they land
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: up arresting. In the end.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: We will see.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: This is a day nine to eleven which we should
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: always remember as the day America was attacked and had
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: no response, did not know what to do, did not
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: know what to do. It's a failure of our politicians.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: But more than that, it's a failure of the Neil
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Ferguson's It's it's a failure of our intellectuals. It's a
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: failure of the intellectual class. I can I can count
• 49:24
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  Speaker 1: Have never been a big Charlie Cook fan, especially since
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: he sold out to Trump. But taking his life for
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: Woods is cataclysmic, he continues. He didn't just take his
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  Speaker 1: life his children. I have no father. His wife is
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: not a widow. The amount of people celebrating this online
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: are saying he had it coming because he was a
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  Speaker 1: pro Second Amendment shows how immensely unwell a society is. Yes,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: and a number of people saying let's shut down the
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party and let's clean house and let's go after
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: everybody who's a leftist again shows the same thing.
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  Speaker 3: It shows how we've lost the plot.
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  Speaker 1: We've lost our capacity to deal with these kind of situations.
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  Speaker 1: People are emoting there are thinking, and they're not thinking clearly.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody called for sassinating Charlie Cook. They probably, I'm guessing now,
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: was not a conspiracy run by leftist operatives out of
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Obama's office to kill Charlie Cooke.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: This is one person.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's a small group of people who decided that,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Coke deserves to die and put him
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: you know, did what it was necessary to do it.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: And yeah, they were maybe inspired by leftist intolerance was
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: free speech. But at the end of the day, you're
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: responsible for your actions. You're not a puppet of the left.
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  Speaker 1: Just because the left hates Charlie Cooke and just because
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: the left is being antagonistic to free does not justify
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: any one individual's actions, and those actions cannot be blamed
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: on these other people. It's his responsibility and the ideas
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: he's embraced now, the people pitching these ideas, the intolerance
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to free speech, the idea that violence is a means
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: by which to deal with things like speech you don't like.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Those people are the enemy. Those people the intellectual enemy,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: and they should be dealt with intellectually, or if they
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: work for a university, as many of them do, they
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: should just be fired because they're not good intellectuals.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: They're hopeful intellectuals.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: So you know, think about the professors who I don't
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: know how they still have jobs with the professors who
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: came out in support of Hamas after.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: After October seventh.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: These people are monsters. They shouldn't be shot, but they
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: suddenly should be boycotted. They suddenly should be morally condemned.
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: They suddenly should be fired from their jobs if they
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: teach at a university, and the professors teaching their students
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: the free speech is evil that if you feel aggressed against,
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you should demand the silencing of the person who aggressed
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: against you. The people teaching these theories should not be
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: at universities. Now, this shouldn't be dictated from Washington. This
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: should be dictated by their universities because they have educating
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to do. I mean, look, at the end of the day,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: the ideology that has sped through the life left and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: of course has resulted where their backlash from the right,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: which is always going to happen, is an evil ideology,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: an ideology that rejects Western civilization, rejects free speech, rejects reason,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: rejects our capacity to think, elevates emotion above all, and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: elevates the so called oppressed above everything else. So the
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Palestinians can do anything to anybody, anytime, on any scale,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: because they were oppressed. They're oppressed, they're poor, they're miserable,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: they're unhappy, they've got a dark skin. And this is,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: in my view, not Marxism. This is not Marxism. Marxism
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: did not divide people up into oppresses and oppressed. Those
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: are not categories he invented. These are not categories that
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Marx really resonated with. Right to him, it was clearly
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: an issue of exploited and exploit tour. But in economic sense,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: this is all about economics. This is all about material
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: This is not about race or gender, or about ethnicity,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: or about any of this stuff. And if you if
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: you say, well, Marx uses oppress oppressed in economic sense,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: and it's been expanded. But that language, that language of
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: oppressed oppressed is Christian language.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: It's not unique to Max.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you could say, and I think much more credibly,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: you could argue that the modern left is Christian inspired
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: by Christianity, inspired by the original fathers of Christianity, by
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: the original Christianity, much more than it is Marxist. Marks
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: had a whole theory of evolution of history, you know,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: all theory of economics, the mouton lift rejects all of that,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: or what it's kept is oppressed oppressed, but oppressed oppressed
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: mocks the stole from the Christians. So the rejection of
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: free speech on the part of the left basically has bred,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you know, is encouraged. They can't go to jail, You
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: can't have violence against them, because they didn't. They didn't
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: literally commit violence, and they didn't.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: What's what's the term.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: Insights violence, but they certainly suggested it, they certainly legitimized
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: it intellectually. It's the left's intellectuals that had a lot
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: to answer for, a lot to answer for. And again,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: as I've always said, the right is too dumb to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: have its own philosophy. The right it's too dumb to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: have its own philosophy. The right is responsive. It responds
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: to the left, and the only thing it knows how
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: to response to the left with old ideologies.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Like nationalism and religion. That's all it has.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: But the right is responsive. The left initiates, the left
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: comes up with new stuff, new variations, new twists, and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: then the right responds. The left becomes racists, the right
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: becomes even more racist. The left of statists, the right
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: becomes more statists. The left is anti free speech. The
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: right is going to be anti free speech is and
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: it is going to be even more so. The left initiates,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: the right will win, but the left initiates. So yes,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: this is I mean, yesterday was an attack, a direct,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: unmitigated haack on free speech.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: And agree or disagree with Charlie Cook.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: And as I've said, I thought that the turn Charlie Cook,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Charlie Cook took in the last I don't know, eight years,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: six years, six years, probably has been very bad negative.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: And the reality is I haven't seen him since that
• 1:04:21
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• 1:04:25
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• 1:04:29
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• 1:04:32
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• 1:04:42
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• 1:04:48
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• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: think this one was in Orlando with Dave Rubin. It
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: was a turning Point, it was a big event. It
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: was a really good event. You can still watch it
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: on YouTube. So I was still doing turning point events
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: shortly into the Trump presidency, and then it went to zero,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: not a nothing, And at some point I thought he
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: took a turn that was very bad. He said some
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: things that I thought were pretty disgusting and pretty awful
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: in terms of Jews, in terms of race, in terms
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: of just repeating trumpest lies, in terms of misinformation, in
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: terms of just lying and deception. But again, you know,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: he had a right to do that, and the idea
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: that anybody would kill you for doing that is horrifying
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: anti you know, it's it's it's anti civilization, it's anti life,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: it's anti progress, it is it is death and destruction.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: If this is the path we embrace them we take on.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: And and it really does look like both sides would
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: like to take on this path, this path of violence,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: Liam says, left us are celebrating this murder. This is
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: going to strengthen a movement MAGA that needs to be defeated.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: I agree the shooter likely conceived himself. He was stopping
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: the rise of Hitler, when he may have just ensured
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: his victory. I think that might be the case. I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: think that that that that very much, very much could
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: be and I do think that he probably thought he
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: was killing a hitler and and and suddenly Charlie was
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: not a hitline. We don't live in Nazi Germany, so
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: there's there's absolutely no justification for that. Some left us
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: are celebrating the murder, rank and fire left us to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: celebrating the murder. As I said, the good news is,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: if you can call it good news, is that the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: prominent figure within the left uh are not celebrating this,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: condemning it. And and that's good. You know, I don't
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: know if any and maybe you guys can correct me,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: if you know of somebody, any prominent leftist who's come
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: out in support of what happened or in justification of
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: what happened. Now they are Charlie was a bad guy,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: looking for it, right, pushing all the buttons.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: What did he expect?
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: But that's not exactly the same as saying, yeah, he
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: deserved it, and and uh and and and you know,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: we should silence people like Charlie, which is what some
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: of the grassroots things. I mean, just open Twitter. You
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: can find it all over the place. So I'm finding
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: it all over the place anyway. But you're like, think, oh,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: you go, who's awful. He's hobable, He's a disgusting human being.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Is uh. It was really.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Emotional about how how he thought this was hobbable, and
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: how how extent to which he condemned.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: It, and so did many others. On the other hand, there.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Are people out there, you know, here's somebody with six
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight thousand followers, six hundred and thirty
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: eight thousand followers, and this, this is directly at the
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: point Liam is making Joey Many mana mana Manario, Manarino, Manarino.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know who this guy is, but he's got
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: six hundred and thirty eight thousand follows. I have forty.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: This is his tweet. It's time for Trump to become
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: the dictator. The media always says he is. It is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: absolutely time. I mean, that is a sentiment I'm seeing
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again among the right, and
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: you know, so you see, I'm looking for.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: A good example of.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is the kind of kind of
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: conspiracy stuff that's that's uh, that is being spouted and
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: nobody kind of says, nobody blinks.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: People support it, right, I don't know.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: So some woman she has forty three thousand follows, So
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: maybe different plausible scenario motives, but I'm wondering the odds
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: of it being an idea for reservists with dual passports
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: who got pissed off at Charlie for turning on Israel
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: because of some mild criticisms lately. I mean, this is
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: the kind of garbage heat you know, here's here's a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Stephen Crowder. I'm not advocating blood in the streets, and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: I'm certainly not supporting it, but you know what I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is uh yeah, it's.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: And then you've got all these leftists just you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: relishing this and supporting it less on Twitter, more so
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: supposedly on the on some of the other sites.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, we will see yep.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: All right, So yeah, I mean, Lea, I'm absolutely the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: celebrating and this is only gonna feed the beast. This
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: is only gonna make things worse, only gonna make things worse,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: which is what the left does constantly. They constantly make
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: their right worse. They bring out the worst elements in
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the right.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: James, since what.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Happened to Charlie, are you going to take more precaution
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: when giving speeches on security, bulletproof vest, humanity can't afford
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: to lose you. You on, I don't know about humanity.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: You guys might be, but I don't know about humanity.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: You know. Look, my speeches are so small, the so minor,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: the so on the side. If I was going to
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: an event where there we're going to be three thousand people,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: if I was making headlines, if I was prominent out there,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: then absolutely I would. I mean I already in many venues,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: I demand security, and uh after nine to eleven for
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: many of my talks, pretty much all my talks, I'd
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: say from nine to eleven to two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 1: there were on phone policy, I wore bulletproof vest, so
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I had a kevlov asked that I wore under my
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: under my shirt, under my shirt so you couldn't see it. Security,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: who was usually on site could always tell they have
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: an eye for this, and they could see that I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: was wearing a bulletproof vest. So I've worn a bulletproof
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  Speaker 1: vest in the past. I don't rule out wearing a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: bulletproof vest in the future. Again, we'll see how this
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  Speaker 1: all develops. But look, Charlie Cook was a big target
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: here's a big name. He had millions, not tens of thousands,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: millions of followers. He had a huge presence. His ideas
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: reverberated throughout the culture. I mean, I'm not in that position.
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  Speaker 1: I understand Ben Shapiro would be worried. I understand if
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  Speaker 1: Douglas Marie is worried. I don't think I need to
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  Speaker 1: be worried.
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  Speaker 3: But if you know, if.
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  Speaker 1: I get a sense that that changes, then I'll definitely change.
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  Speaker 3: But yes, I already usually the security in my talks.
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  Speaker 1: And as I said, I I don't own a bulletproof
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  Speaker 1: vest anymore because they expire, you know, after a few
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: years you can't use them anymore. But and I think
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  Speaker 1: I gave mine the one I had. I had a
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: new one, and I think I gave it a bosh
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Bush fought when when when his life was being threatened,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: I think he gave him my billeboo vest. So I
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: don't have one now, but I'd buy one in an
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: instant if I if I thought it was necessary. Pretty
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  Speaker 1: tragic that you have to even think about it. I,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: like Claude says, is it more to mourn an individual's
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: death when they advocate evil ideas? Murder is evil, but
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: I struggle carrying too much beyond the horror of it,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: what it represents for the potential future.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks for all you do, and stay safe.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have to mon a life. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Charlie advocated for really bad ideas, but he was no Hitler.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: And and again he had he has two kids. I mean,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: I think those are things that mean something. I don't
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: think you warn him unequivocally. That is, you have to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: take into those things into account, that his ideas into account.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: But the act itself is so despicable, it's so horrific,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: it has such big implications. You have to condemn it vigorously.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: So I just have to to an air conditioning back on.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: So I get it, and you know, and I knew
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: it personally, which makes it a little different. But yeah,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean, incredibly critical of Charlley
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: all this time, but it's still the idea that he's
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: just dead, just as horrific and for what or even
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: you talked about the left, but also in parts of
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the right lacking leaders, and I completely agree. And in
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: a weird sense, you can see sprinkles of despair and
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: what comes of anarchism and the lack of self esteem. Yes,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely right. What you see now is chaos.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: What you're seeing now is lack of leadership. And here
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I mean leadership not in the political sense, I mean
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: in the intellectual sense, the no guiding principles. What do
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: I do? How do I think about this? What are
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: the issues involved? Nobody is giving anything out there. The
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: right hates the left, the left hates the right. The
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: left is very defensive. Right now, Oh yeah, you shouldn't
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: have killed Charlie Cooke. You know, he wasn't that bad.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: But that's about it. You know, the right will say
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: Charlie gwk was. I mean, President has just announce that
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: he's going to give him the Medal of Freedom, right
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: highest honor you can give an American civilian. Charlie is
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: a hero, Charlie's a mater, Charlie's all of this stuff, and.
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  Speaker 3: There's no ideas.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: You know, Lindsay, James Lindsay, who is good on these
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  Speaker 1: kind of issues, is attacking the left and attacking the right.
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  Speaker 1: And he's right. You know, he's the one who I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: think coined the woke right terminology, and he's absolutely right
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: about a lot of what he says about left and right,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: but he has nothing to offer right now other than
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: we need to reconcile. We need we need to come together.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: What the hell, what are you going to come together?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: We need new ideas. We need a new governing philosophy.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: And I don't mean just governing politically, I mean governing
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  Speaker 1: our lives. We need to re embrace enlightenment values. We
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: need intellectual leadership that leads us into the light, that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: leads us to enlightenment, that leads us to the right ideas.
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  Speaker 1: We don't need to come together around a bonfire and sinkuma.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's the idea that that's what's missing, that that's
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: all we need. It makes us so much worse, that
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: makes us possible. In the end, what this country is
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: suffering from is that we all we have evil ideas
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: battling each other. I mean evil ideas battling each other,
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: and most of Americas like stuck between them, doesn't really
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: know what's going on, can't really choose between the two sides,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: recognizes there's something really really vicious and wrong here, and
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do about it. I mean, all
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the old, evil, disgusting ideas of the past because they
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit of new ideas, evil new ideas. Woke
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: was the evil new ideas that seems to have been
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: put in its place. So the left is just revoting
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: back to socialism. So we get socialism and egalitarianism, and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: we get Marxism in some formulations, and then we get
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and then on the right we're getting fascism and anti
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: Semitism and you know, all kinds of other statist ideologies.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: I will talk about this tomorrow. And the news things.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: There was this amazing article in the what was it,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: Washing Post, I think it was Western Post against Weimo
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: coming to New York and I read it, okay, standard
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: kind of leftist argument, D D D. And I read
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: the byline and it's written by conservative from the Manhattan
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: Sty and it's like conservatives now are just a statist
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: as a leftists, just a statist as a leftist when
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: it comes to economics. And most Americans don't know what
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: to deal with this, and there's no intellectual leadership. Again,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: James Lindsay is great attacking the left. On the right,
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: what we need are positive ideas, well, we need a
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: good ideas. What we need ideas to drive us forward.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: What we need ideas to build. I need ideas for progress,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: ideas for life, life with a big L, and that
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: we just have no intellectual leadership around nothing. Not a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: nobody's out there, nobody's out there with a positive message.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Nobody's out there with a proper definition of America and
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: inspiring people around a real America. It just isn't design ran.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: That's it. So the mess we're in, the mess we've
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: been in since nine to eleven, the mass that created
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: nine to eleven, the Mady ninet eleven even possible because
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: it wasn't necessary nine to eleven. It could have been
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: a avoid it could have been prevented. All caused, all
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: caused by our intellectuals, by a pathetic, weak, irrational intellectuals.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: All right, not surely have algorithm. I've watched some of
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: the assassination footage from different angles. He was dead before
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: he hit the ground. This is clearly a professional hit.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: It's amazing the assassin has evaded capture this long. I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: doubt that it's a professional hit in a sense that
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: this is an assassin or something like that. I think
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: you'll find that this is not a professional assassin. This
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: will be some guy who's maybe hunted, maybe shot target
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: practice many many times. We do live in a country
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: with an intense gun culture. You know, shooting rifles at
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: targets is is a long American tradition. And I think
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: you'll find that this was a This was somebody who
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: was just a good shot. And remember the guy who
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: shot the President Trump before your present while on the campaign.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: The guy went on the roof there and then was
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: shot on the roof. There's some nobody, some Yoho, nobody, nobody,
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  Speaker 1: and he missed him by so little, I mean, just
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: complete fluke. That Trump moved his head a little bit
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: and the bullet just scraped his is his ear, otherwise
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: it would have gone straight into his head. So he
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: was trained, he practiced, He practiced, But lots of Americans
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: practice shop shooting. Lots of Americans are out there practicing
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  Speaker 1: shooting stuff at one hundred and fifty yards every day. Now,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: maybe he was in the military. I doubt he was
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: a shop shooter in the military. He didn't use an
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  Speaker 1: assassin weapon. He used a hunting weapon. She's not the same.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. Fifty yards. I mean it's long,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: but it's not outrageously long. I don't know how many
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: have you guys shot one hundred and fifty yards?
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 3: I think I have.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: I think we did in the military AM sixteen's and
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  Speaker 1: M sixteen that far, and M sixteen is not particularly
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: built for that. And yeah, and you can hit a
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: target one hundred and fifty yards away. So I don't know.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see, we'll know. We're just speculating. I'm
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 1: just speculating. But I think we're gonna find maybe this
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: guy at training, maybe maybe he was in the military,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: maybe he's an ex military, But this is not a
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: professional assassin. And and why would he drop the rifle
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: way he dropped it? And why would he be captured
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: on video? If he was really a pro, he wouldn't
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: have he wouldn't have allowed himself to be captured on video.
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: And he wouldn't have he wouldn't have just dumped the
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: weapon where he dumped it.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: I don't think he was a pro.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: But again, I don't know. I do not know any
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: more than you do. The dudeo money, Trump and the
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: radical left to turning fear into fuel and rage into rhythm, meticulous,
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: particulously designed to hypnotize a broken nation, twisting hate into virtue, signaling. Yeah,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 1: I think all that's true. It's getting it's getting scary,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: it's getting twisted, it's escalating. It's hard to tell where
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: he goes from here. I mean, there was a bomb
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: threat today on the DNC. There is a real attempt
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: to present the Democratic Party as a part of insanity,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: as an anti American party, anti American party in a
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: sense of treason, as a party that should be outlawed,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: as a party that should be shut down. I don't
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: think they'll do it. I don't think Trump can do it.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think if there's the boss to do it.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: But I think that many many people in the right
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: who would like to see that happen. And of course
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: there are many many people on the left who would
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: like to see somebody take a shot at Trump, somebody
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: take a shot of Vance, And I don't I think
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: there's very few people that would actually take the shot.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: This is the thing about civil war. This is the
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: thing about a civil war. It's easy to talk about
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: violence for most people.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: There are few people.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Gang members, a few people raising certain neighborhoods that violence
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: comes easy to them. But for most people, violence is hard,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: particularly at the beginning. They can get Once they get
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: into it, they can get the bloodlust. But it's sadly
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: in the beginning. It is hot, it's scary, and it's dangerous.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: There's this thing about the civil war. Lots of people,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: lots of people think that they could take a weapon
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: and go out and fight. Very few people have any
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: experience of doing it. Very few people actually have the
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: courage to put their life in danger. Very few people
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: have the courage to pull the trigger and shoot somebody.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of people who can do that,
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: who are willing to do it, both on the left
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: on the right. And I think that's what partially what
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: prevents us civil war. And I know the lots of people,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: lots of militia out there training for the day. Training
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: is not the same as doing and most of them
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: will probably die and they know it. And I don't
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: think they're ready to die. They're not that suicidal. Now again,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: there they're crazy, and most of these people are most
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: of the people actually pull the trigger off crazies. And
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: but civil war requires people to actually be willing to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: go fight. I don't know how many people actually willing
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: to go fight on the left and on the right,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: everybody's brave. I mean, god, millions of people are brave,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: unbelievably brave, sitting behind a keyboard with an anonymous user
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: name declaring civil war and declaring they're willing to fight
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: and declaring all this stuff without every revealing their name
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: of their face. Keyboard warriors A diamond dozen't actual warriors.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: Those are actually hard to find, actually hard to find.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, I think people are people. Somebody mentions Ukraine,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: people are willing to fight, to actually engage in violence,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: to fight when they when something's really at stake, like
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: their lives, like somebody's invading, like somebody's breaking into your house,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: something like that. But to go out there and join
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: a as a tribal action, to go out there and
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: in flick violence on your neighbor, why because they disagree
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: with you about politics? Were not quite there yet. I
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: don't think there's just not enough people who are ready
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: to do it. They might say they are, but are
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: they actually ready to do it. So, but it's certainly
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: turned to worry. Test to say thank you, thank you,
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: Tessa really appreciate it. Mary Lee says I was able
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: to get end States that Sponsored Terrorism published in the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: University of Washington's student newspaper in twenty eleven. No way
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: in hell would that happen today. I had to help
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: with the cost. That's great. I forgot that that happened.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I knew at the time that it was happening.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't know that you could get that
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: published anyway.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: And today Yuan is even more of a threat than ever,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: at least more recognized as a threat than ever. And
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: I still don't think you could get that piece published.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: That was the peace Land and peacoff road right after
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: I remember some of my vivid memories with Leonard is
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: me and him, and I think Amy was there, him
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: writing us kind of at doing some editing, returning it
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: to Leonard, rewriting, going back and forth, you know, kind
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: of an all nighter to get it done, to get
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: a finished so we could publish it.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: All right, Thank you, Marillian Andrew. I feel terrible about Cook,
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: but Molly, I have qualms. He went fully in for
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: Trump and MAGA, including its many ugly positions such as
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: an immigration trade and even anti yuon strikes.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Shouldn't he have known better?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he should have. I mean, Charlie was
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: not a good guy when it comes to ideas, when
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: he comes to advocacy, he wasn't. He was an invader.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: He took a bad turn. He took a turn towards
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: bad ideas, and he took a turn because he was
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: better when he was younger. And I think there was
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: an element of Charlie there was a power lusting that enjoyed,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: really enjoyed the schmoozing with the Bushes, with the Bushes,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: with the Trumps, with Trump junior, with Eric, with Trump's senior,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: with being with being a celebrity. He was a celebrity,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: and I think he really enjoyed that.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: So again, you know, I don't want to.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: Make that the focus because he just died, But yeah,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with all of that, but that
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that he didn't deserve to be shot.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: Not everybody who's INMO deserves to be shot. Not everybody
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: who evades were as bad ideas deserves to be shot.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: And Charlie did not deserve to be shot. I disagree
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: with him about these days. In the last few years,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: almost about everything, he abandoned his defense of capitalism. He
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: became a cultural religious warrior and that is the enemy,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: but not in the sense of violence.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: Merrick Merrick, He says, I'm.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: Stenning a business helping Chinese students pass an English test
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: to study in the UK. Most are just individuals trying
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: to improve their lives, but some steal ip for the CCP.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: Should I be worried. I don't want to contribute towards that.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, you should be worried. I don't know how
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: you protect yourself. You need to think about how you
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: screen for the students who you want to help and
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: avoid the students you don't want to help without antagonizing
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: the Chinese government. So I don't know how the business
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: is run, and I don't know where you get your
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: students from. But yeah, to the extent that you can
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: avoid helping those students who are going to be stealing
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: ip for the CCP, then you should not help. But
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know how possible that is. It's a really
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: tricky situation you're in.
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 3: Marilyn says a.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: Student newspaper ad was in two thousand and one. I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: was going to say twenty eleven. It was ten years
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: after in two Thus, the one the paper accepted in
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  Speaker 1: states as sponsor terrorism without a question.
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  Speaker 3: What a difference today?
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, in two thousand and one, the
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal refused to publish it. We got rejected
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  Speaker 1: by the Wall Street Journal, and I had to I
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  Speaker 1: had to write to write an email, I guess to
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: the editorial page editor who was much you know, who
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: was somewhat friendly, and say, what the hell is going
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: on at the Wall Seat Journal? Your ads people won't
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: run this ad. And ultimately, after a lot of I
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: guess disagreement at the Wall Streat Journal, they agreed to
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  Speaker 1: run it. But by that point we'd already agreed to
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  Speaker 1: do it with the New York.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: Times in Washington Post.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: It was easier to publish this ad in the New
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: York Times that it wasn't the New Wall Street Journal,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: which shocked me at the time. So we ran the
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: full page ad en states of support terrorism New York
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: Times and Washington Post. I don't think the New York
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Times in Washington Post would run it today. I don't know,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't think so, Neo says Charlie said. That
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: made me think of you antifask so glad you're okay?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that your Mosquito run in also brought to
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: mind Heiserberg's hilarious fly scene.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: I can just imagine, Liam says.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: John Stossel just did a post about Charlie Cook and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: Iron Rand.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: I'll have to look for that.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really would rather Charlie Cook can not be
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: associated with Iron Ran given his positions.
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  Speaker 3: Uh Ja says see above.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: God, now I have to look for Jays Jay, you
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: have to put it into the super chat.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 3: That's the whole point. Jay says.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the psychology of creators versus destroyers and
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: peters those who can't create. Do I psych pseudo self
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: esteem from mindless destruction? Yeah? I mean look when you
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: when you talk about murderers, when you're talking about people
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: who who destroy a life, you know these are nihilists.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: These are haters of human life. Now, why do they
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: hate human life? Maybe it's because they can't create, Cinly,
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: it's because they don't have self esteem. But these people hate,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's what drives them. It drives everything. And you know,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: I see this on the left, a lot of hate
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: to do right from the fact that, for example, they
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: have to go to work to make a living. They
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: can't just do whatever the hell they want. Their emotions
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: they're not what do you call it caressed, They're not
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: taken seriously, they're not embraced. They're not they want they
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: want their whims to be to be venerated, and they
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: lash out. They hate the world because their emotions don't
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: come true, because they're forced to use their mind and
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: they don't want it. And this breeds nihilism. But yeah,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: these are these are people who I don't know, if
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: can't won't create, and therefore their only option is to destroy,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: to lash out out of hatred.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: Hop a gamble.
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  Speaker 1: When you coffee with Charlie Cook when he was in
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: high school, did he say why he chose to reach
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  Speaker 1: out to you in particular? I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that I reached out to him or
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: he reached out. I think we had a guy in
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: Chicago who was managing activities in Chicago. Charlie was living
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: in Chicago's family lived there, and he was getting known
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: and I think this guy approached Charlie and said, hey,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: you on.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: Book's going to be in town.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Would you like to meet him? And Charlie said, yeah,
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: I'd love to Charlie had seen my videos, was a
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: fan of my moraleity of capitalism stuff, had read Iinrand
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: was an iron Ran fan and he wanted to meet
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: because he was an Iran fan and he was starting
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: this movement I think originally at high schools, and mophed
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: into universities very quickly and was interesting and interested in
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: an Iran connection. And in the early years of Turning
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: Point irand was really everywhere. She was pretty prominent in
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: Turning Points stuff. People read her, talked about her objective speakers.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: That all went away at some point, but that was
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: really there initially. Now, even at that coffee he said
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: he was religious, and you know, it was understood that
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: he was an objectivist and he wasn't going to be
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: an objectivist, but there was a certain admiration there of
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: him for Rand, and later you could see, you know,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: and that we met a few times after that a
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: Turning Point at a big Turning Point conference in Florida
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: and then at Steamboat at Steamboat Institute conference in Colorado.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it was his interest.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: In nine Rand. Margaret says, thank you for your compassionate
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: take on the on the Cook tragedy. I've never listened
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: to him, but him grieving his horrific death. It's given
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: me a lot of comfort in my grief to hear
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: your compassion, even though you two disagreed.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Margaret.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, look, and you have to under stand
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: also the what this means.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, I agree for the country. I agree for speech,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: free speech.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: I grieve for anybody who goes out and now speaks
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  Speaker 1: in front of large audiences is going.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 3: To be afraid.
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  Speaker 1: I agree for the country, hapacamb But wo mom, Donnie
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: Sanders and AOC now have targets on their back. I
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: mean maybe maybe, I mean I think I think that
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of targets on people's backs. It's and look,
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  Speaker 1: this is the point because because of the culture of
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: this country, which which has guns and gun training and
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: gun enthusiasm is part of it, both on the left
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: and on the right, a lot of.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 3: People are trained on guns.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: It's relatively easy for anybody who's a little nuts or
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: stupid or irrationally passionate about violence to get a hold
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: of a gun and to go up to a person
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: and shoot them. It's super easy to do, and you
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: can have security around a person and it's not that
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: hard to kill him anyway. I mean, look, this is
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: what happened in the sixties when when JFK and then
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: Martin Luther King and and JFK's brother, and Robert Kennedy
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: and what's his name, Welcome X and and a whole
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: series of public figures were assassinated and killed. It's relatively
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: easy to do if you want to do it, if
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: you commit it to doing it, it's not that hard,
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: right Andrew, How does determinism impact moral judgment? If murder
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: isn't chosen, can it be morally condemned? Why is moral
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: condemnation of virtue when it.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: Is well, I mean, if there's determinism.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: Then you know, I mean, I don't think you can
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: condemn it. Although determinists do condemn murderers, they partially because
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: they don't want them inflicting their harm and people, so
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: they want to, you know, lock them up even if
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 1: they're determined to do it, still lock them up because
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: they might be doing it again. But of course, if
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: you're determined, who knows who will kill? When you just
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: don't know anybody could have the murder instinct in them.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: You don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: The whole thing, The whole idea of determinism ultimately is
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: incompatible with human life and incompatible with really thinking about
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: human life. Why is more condemnation of virtue when it
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: is well because your life depends on it. Tomlly condemned,
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: somebody is to distance yourself from somebody. To Molly condemned,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: somebody is to identify somebody as a threat to you,
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: and the condemnation is a foam distancing and protection against
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: that person. Caleb, I'm thirty, never listened to a red
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: Charlie's work and barely followed him over the years, but
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: his assassination really really disturbed me.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: I think his assassination should disturb you, guys. James. I
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: was watching Charlie Cook's interview with Alex Epstein just before
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: this happened. Unspeakable Rest in peace. Yeah, Charlie did interview Alex,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: not that long ago.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it would make sense for him to do
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 3: so on some issues. He was good.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: Clark says, it's going to be strange not scrolling through
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: new Charlie clips on Instagram.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm not in on Instagram, so I won't miss it.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: Clark, the left of studying a war, They can't handle Yeah,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: I mean they started the war a long long time ago.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: As I said, I think they started the war right
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: after nine eleven. And yes, and I don't think they
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: can handle it. I think the victory of Trump and
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: the audacity of Trump and the willingness of Trump to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: take the reins, if you will, and to impose kind
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: of more and more thoritarianism on this country is an
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: indication that they can't handle it. And again, this was
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: not started yesterday. It started a long time ago. Now.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: To have a Jago hythim to prefers iron ran it's
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: easy to destroy, it's how to create.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: It took Charlie over a decade to build what he
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: did and lost everything in a second of a trigger pull.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: It's tragic and.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: Hollow, and you have to admire what he did build, even.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: If you disagree with You know, it's philosophical foundation, which
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: I suddenly do, all right, that dudeo bunny. Charlie was
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: fostering open conversations with young people to figure out what
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: they believe. He was committed to talking to people who
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: disagree with him and lost his life foot Yes, I
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: mean that's the that's the admirable thing about Charlie is,
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: in spite of his bad ideas, he was he was
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: not hiding them.
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 3: He was engaged, he was he debated and.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Now arguably a lot of the videos he put out
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: afterwards he edited them to make himself look good and
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: he did stuff like that.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: But I think everybody does that except me, And but
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: he was out there.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: He was on a regular basis on campuses, engaging and
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 1: debating and discussing, and he got large audiences because he
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: was such a controversial figure and he had such a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: huge standing in the culture. James says, how long do
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: you think the news media will take to forget Charlie
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: Cooke was assassinated. Will this have any long term impact
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: on the media.
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: As a whole?
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. Look, I think the media
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: is already shifting. I think the media is shifting to
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: the right. You're seeing this with what is it, CBS
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: buying the Free Press and giving Barry Weiss a significant
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: position at CBS. Now that's not made official, but that's
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: only rumored. But if that happens, you're seeing ownership of
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: different media assets moving and it's moving to the right.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: So I think you're going to see the media shift
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: to the right in any case, that's I think where
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: the action is. And I also think the media is
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: very intimidated by Trump, and so I doubt that they're
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: going to forget this because well, I mean, it depends
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: what happens now. A lot of it depends on what
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: happens now and how this evolves from now. But the
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: media is going to have to deal with this because
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: they're going to be constant reminders of it.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: I think.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: Harpa Campbell says, to Ben Shapier's credit, he said, We're
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: going to pick up the bloody microphone where Charlie left
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: it and never stop. Yeah, that's the right sentiment. Although
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: I do understand it. Ben Shapier has canceled his campus
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: tours for the foreseeable future. James MSNBC fires and analyst
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: Matthew Dowd for unacceptable comments about Charlie Cook. Do you
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: see this as as capitalism or free speech by a commentator? Now,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: this is capitalism.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: It's a private company.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: They can do whatever the hell they want. They got
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of flak for what he said when he
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: said it, and they fired him. And again I think
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: it shows that there is a there's a movement to
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: the right, even on MSNBC. I don't think a few
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: years ago they were to have fired him, but I
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: think now they're taking so much flak, there's so much
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: energy on the right and not on the left left,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: that they had to fire him in order to sustain
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: their business. Friend harp Up, can you comment on the
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: tolerance paradox I've seen some people cited in relation to
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: Cook's assassination. I don't know what the tolerance paradox is,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: so you'll have to send me a link or something
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: about what it is. Liam should the assassin received the
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: death penalty? I mean, I'm not against the death penalty,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 1: other than I fear that it's sometimes used against innocent
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: people and it's completely irreversible, so.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 3: I don't like it.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: But if it's unequificult in terms of who it is,
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: then yeah, I have.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: No qualms about it.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: It's a cold blooded murder, and I think cold bubbled
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: murderers do not have a right lose their right to life.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: Thomas says, Hey, Ron, I'm reading books with older English
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: John Locke, and I'm having a hard time understanding what
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: they're saying. I don't have any tips. I don't understand.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: To me. As a consequence, I find it much easier
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: to read like people writing about rather than read the originals.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: John Locke is hard. Anna Smith is hard. You either
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: have to slug through it or read somebody writing about them.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: But then who you have to find the right person.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: There's no easy solution to it. It really is hot.
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: You just have to do it slowly. And maybe I
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if there are any dictionaries that can help,
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: but maybe the Oxford Dictionary can help.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 3: John.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: If it turns out Assassin was a right wing not
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: trying to start a violent war, would that be better
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: or worse?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. It would still be horrible.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: In some sense, it would be better because I don't
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: think the left is equipped to start a civil war.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: I think the right is, so I'd rather put the
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: burden on the left to do it than on the
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: right if I wanted to prevent it.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 3: So I guess it would be better.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: Andrew, the Conservative cause isn't good enough for the pronouncements
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: of present of perseverance for its adherence in the wake
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: of this tragedy. The Conservative cause isn't good enough for
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: the pronouncements of.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: Perseverance of its adherence.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: And I think I understand what you're saying, and I
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: think I agree with you. Yeah, I mean the conservative
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: cause is not worthy and says if this has mainly
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: a few speech issue, then doesn't that mean government isn't
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: the only force that can silence speech, but also those
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: using force or pressure. Yeah, I mean obviously I've always
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: said that, right, I mean, it's the whole points, the
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: whole point of which this is a free speech issue
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: is you can't use violence assign once somebody pressure something else.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: A private company can use pressure. A private company can
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: can stop publishing somebody. They can't kill him. You can't
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: kill people. But the government's job, and this is where
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: the free This is where the government steps in. The
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: Government's job is to prevent people from killing you because
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: of your speech. And the government is defaulting in a
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: responsibility to protect free speech when it doesn't protect you,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: so defaulted and its responsibility visa a v free speech
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: when it didn't protect eliminusity. Here, you know, the issue
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: is resorting to violence, which inherently is a violation of rights,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: including free speech. Because of speech, that is the free
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: speech issue here. But the only you know again, censorship
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: can only be done by the government, you know, or
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: the use of force and the use of direct force.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: But firing somebody cancel culture. Putting pressure on somebody is
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: not force, is not force. You don't have a right
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: to use somebody else's property to articulate ideas that they
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 1: don't believe in. They don't want you to articulate. So yeah,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: but you don't have a right to silence people. You
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: don't have a right to beat them up because of
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: what they say. You don't have a right to, you know,
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: and to to stop them from speaking when they own
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: the stage. And Charlie owned the stage, he was invited there,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: he owned the stage. I would say the same thing
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: about violent protests. The violent protesters are using force to
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: island somebody and there for the government's job is to
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: stop the protesters. That's the government respecting free speech, all right,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 1: Christa's troops on the streets, presidential assassination attempts, and public murders.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: America has become a sick culture, yep. And my point
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: is it's been a sick culture since ninety eleven. It's
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: been getting worse because it's never dealt with the sickness.
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  Speaker 1: It's never addressed the sickness. It's never confronted the sickness
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  Speaker 1: something in might eye and never looked in the right
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  Speaker 1: places for a cure. The cures that were proposed all
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  Speaker 1: enhanced the sickness, all made it worse. John, Facebook not
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  Speaker 1: allowing me to put money on a question, Well, it's YouTube,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: not Facebook, but I don't know why that is. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: everybody else is managing to do it, so I'm not sure. John,
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there's a wood YouTube doesn't like in the question.
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  Speaker 1: Let me just do some of these stickers. Steven Harper,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the sticker.
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  Speaker 3: Let's see I saw other stickers here.
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  Speaker 1: Paul, thank you, and obviously Dave thank you fifty dollars
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  Speaker 1: and Wes thank you fifty dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: You guys have been great, and Gail thank you, and
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey thank you, and Jacob thank you, and John again,
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  Speaker 1: thank you. And let's see, I know we had Troy
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  Speaker 1: of course of five hundred Australian dollars. Thank you, Thank you,
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  Speaker 1: thank you many many times over, and Clinton, thank you,
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  Speaker 1: and the thumb, Mary Eileen, thank you. And I think
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: I got everybody. I think it's possible they got everybody,
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  Speaker 1: all right, Benjamin, Is it proper to consider those that
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  Speaker 1: murder people like Brian Thompson and Charlie Cookers animals? I
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  Speaker 1: just don't see them seeing how else it makes sense. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's human beings who revert to an animal state.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, what do you consider hamas?
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  Speaker 1: What do you consider I don't know, terrorists generally, suicide
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  Speaker 1: bombas the I mean the monsters, the human beings who
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  Speaker 1: have rejected their humanity have turned themselves into an animal.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a monster.
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  Speaker 1: It's a human being that's turned himself into an animal.
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  Speaker 1: They're not just an animal because that's animal. There's no
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  Speaker 1: moral condemnations, just an animals doing what animals do. But
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  Speaker 1: a human being who turns himself into an animal, that's
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  Speaker 1: a real moral monster. Michael. Even though statistical crime is down,
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  Speaker 1: is the use of force being seen as more morally acceptable?
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  Speaker 1: It seems like in some quarters for some crimes. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe maybe the event that kind
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  Speaker 1: of set this up is the Magiana. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: killing of Thompson, the CEO of United Healthcare. There was
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  Speaker 1: so praised on the left that kind of violence is
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  Speaker 1: celebrated that kind of violence is seen as morally acceptable,
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  Speaker 1: and that is how horrific. I mean, their ballot initiatives
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  Speaker 1: in California named after this guy, after the murderer, named
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  Speaker 1: after the murderer, celebrating the murderer. That is sick. That
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  Speaker 1: is despicable, anti American, anti civilization, anti human, anti life.
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  Speaker 1: And it's it's people like that that are going to
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  Speaker 1: bring the end to this country because they're going to
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  Speaker 1: play right into the hands of the people who will
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  Speaker 1: take it over. Who is John Galla says, will you
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  Speaker 1: be better protecting yourself now? I mean again, I take
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  Speaker 1: precautions now. I don't think there's a real threat to
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  Speaker 1: me again. Charlie was Charlie. I mean, he was millions
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  Speaker 1: of followers, he was headlines in the press everywhere. But
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  Speaker 1: I will evaluate. I will continue to watch what's going
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  Speaker 1: on and keep evaluating what is happening. As I said
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  Speaker 1: after nine to eleven, I wore a bulletpoof vest and
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: had security. But since two thousand and eight, I haven't
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: thought I needed it. And other than the Antifa attack,
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: which was there more for the other guy who was
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  Speaker 1: with me on stage and for me, I haven't felt
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  Speaker 1: threatened andrew this outra doesn't promote force If so, how yes,
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  Speaker 1: because it promotes resentment. It's a moll code that says
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  Speaker 1: that if you are oppressed, and oppressed means you're poor,
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  Speaker 1: your needy, you've got less than others, then the others
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  Speaker 1: owe you. They owe you, they're morally obliged to give
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  Speaker 1: you stuff, they're morally obliged to sacrifice to you. And
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: all you're doing by using force against them, by mugging them,
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  Speaker 1: by stealing their stuff, is applying, you know, It's just
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  Speaker 1: getting them to do what they should have done to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. It's a flip side of the guilt that
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: the wealthy have that they should be giving more. Well,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: this is hatred because they should be giving more, and
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  Speaker 1: that hatred can easily lead to violence. And it certainly
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  Speaker 1: promotes force in the sense of it promotes the welfare state.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: Happer says, I sent you a picture which summarizes call
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  Speaker 1: Papa's tolerance paradox to your Oh, it's Papa's power.
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  Speaker 3: I think I know what this is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if this isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: There there?
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  Speaker 1: All right, Let's see if I can see this should
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  Speaker 1: a tolerance society tolerate intolerance. You want more tolerance, tolerance,
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  Speaker 1: respect my ideas.
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  Speaker 3: This is a Nazi saying. The answer is no.
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  Speaker 1: When we extend tolerance to those who are openly intolerant,
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  Speaker 1: let's give.
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  Speaker 3: Them a chance.
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  Speaker 1: The tolerant ones end up being destroyed and tolerant in
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  Speaker 1: tolerance with them. Any movement that preaches intolerance and persecution
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: must be outside of the law. But that's of course
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: the paradox, because you know you are now being intolerant.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing, this is the thing.
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  Speaker 1: Tolerance is not the right term to use for any
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  Speaker 1: of this. The question is a question of rights. You
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  Speaker 1: don't lose your rights by having evil ideas. That doesn't
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  Speaker 1: mean I should tolerate your evil ideas. And I don't
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 1: tolerate evil ideas. I condemn them, I fight them, I
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: argue against them, I excise them from my environment. I
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: don't allow them into my theater. I don't publish them
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: in my newspaper. If I own Twitter, they wouldn't tweet.
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  Speaker 1: I believe in speech standards. I don't believe in having
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  Speaker 1: no standards for speech, in tolerating everything. So I'm intolerant
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  Speaker 1: to bad ideas. But that does not mean I will
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  Speaker 1: use force against bad ideas. I'm intolerant to bad ideas,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: and I respect their rights, their right to hold bad ideas.
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  Speaker 1: While I don't tolerate them, I morally condemn them, I
• 1:58:22
  Speaker 1: morally attack them, I morally argue with them, and that
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: present alternatives so that the intolerant don't win. The intolerant
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: only win if you tolerate them. In the sense of ah, okay,
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: people disagree, they have their ideas are bad, nod is
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  Speaker 1: are evil. There is a destructive don't follow their ideas,
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  Speaker 1: we hate their ideas. We're we're not going to use
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  Speaker 1: force against them because we believe in rights, we believe
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  Speaker 1: in freedom.
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  Speaker 6: But don't go to their rallies, don't listen to them,
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 6: boycott them, don't put them on your radios, don't put
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: them on your TVs, don't follow them on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: Be intolerant towards them. So that is my solution to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: paradox in that scenario. If you will need to fight
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: bad ideas, then the political tolerance is not a problem.
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  Speaker 1: It's not an issue because that's not where the battle
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  Speaker 1: is one or lost. The battle is wan or lost
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  Speaker 1: in a tellectual battle. Ye Hill twenty five. Hew you on,
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: there's been another school shooting in Colorado. As a result,
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: people are calling for more gun control laws. I'm not
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: sure more gun laws are the best way. What do
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: you think? Look, I don't have a worked out position
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  Speaker 1: on the exact nature of what gun laws should be.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we saw the horrible We saw the horrible
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: killing on the in Charlotte. He used the knife. People
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: who want to murder will find ways to murder. But
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: guns are the legitimate concern of government. And I know
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of people hate me for this. A lot
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: of libertarians and a lot of objectives hate me for impositions.
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  Speaker 1: But guns are legitimate concern of government. The government is
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: an legitimate interest in regulating guns because there are tools
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: of violence and.
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  Speaker 3: Government is responsible.
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  Speaker 1: Now, how much to regulate? Where did you all the line?
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  Speaker 3: What guns?
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: You know? I believe that you have a right to
• 2:00:48
  Speaker 1: have a gun for self defense. What counts the self
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: defense a self defense? The same in Denver as it
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: is in the middle of nowhere in the Rocky Mountains. No,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: it's not so. Should the gun laws be different in
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: different places?
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: I think so. Anyway, it's a lot to be thought about.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have the final answer. But the problem of
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: school shootings is a psychological philosophical problem. It's a problem
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  Speaker 1: of how we manage to how do how do we
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  Speaker 1: manage to create so much anger and hostility and hatred
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: and nihilism so as to being about you know, so
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: much of this violence, right, And that is ideological, that's philosophical,
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: that's about educational system. Gun laws will not solve that problem. Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: I think partly what informed the intensity of Randsmall judgment
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  Speaker 1: was the strength of a conviction and free will. I
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  Speaker 1: tend to allow us some more leeway than her for
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: psychological problems, though not regarding violent thoughts. Yeah, No, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: she really believed the free will. You are in control,
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 1: you create your soul, you are who you created. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I think she understood that there is such thing as
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: meant to an illness that goes beyond what a person
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: can control, and I think she understood that. And I
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: think she understood the certain things that are beyond free world,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: that is beyond your control. And I think she would
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: have been open to that. But her Mall condemnation was
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: in the context of the normal of the human There
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: was in control of his mind and the human that
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: allowed his mind to get to the point where they
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: could be violent, that they could do something horrific. But yes,
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 1: she had a strong conviction in world. But more than that,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 1: she understood in Mall condemnation was a requirement for her
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: own life that if she didn't condemn evil, it strengthened evil.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 1: Evil left alone got strong, and a stronger evil threatened
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: her life. It was an issue of survival, and she
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: understood that who is young gal? Do you think anyone
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  Speaker 1: deserves to be pu pewed?
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Pew puwede means.
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  Speaker 1: Especially those that campaign on the promise of using force
• 2:03:23
  Speaker 1: seems the same as a threat. Just wait until I
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: get into power? Why should I wait? I think I
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 1: understand the question. So, No, you know, it has to
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 1: be a threat. It has to be real for force
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  Speaker 1: to be used. I you know, I for force to
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 1: be used, it has to be it has to be
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: a credible threat. It can just be an offhand thing.
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: It has to be credible.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: And then you can use for short of that, No,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: you're just asking for.
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  Speaker 3: An escalation of force. Uh.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 1: And and you'd have to be able to stand in
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: front of a jew. We say, here's the proof that
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: this person deserves to be shot.
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 3: Because he was gonna attack.
• 2:04:07
  Speaker 1: Me, he was going to do with that do So,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 1: there's no justification of shooting politicians because they say this
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: or that. It has to be a incredible threat. And again,
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: it has to be a threat that you can't address
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 1: in any other way like calling the police. All Right, guys,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you all the super chatters.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 1: I appreciate all of you being here. Difficult times, tragic times,
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: but we will get through them. I will be back
• 2:04:48
  Speaker 1: here tomorrow to talk to you, so I'll see you
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: all tomorrow. And yeah, don't give up.
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 3: Don't give up.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: It's your life to live.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 3: It's all about life.
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: Don't let all the bad news knock you down.
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  Speaker 3: Bye, everybody, see you tomorrow.
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