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Lizzo · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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  It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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  band or artist. That's right.
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  We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is push play
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  and listen. This one's a long time coming.
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  Let me let me phrase it like this.
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  I am band curious or artist curious in this case, and I like
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  to bring my friends on to talk about these artists and tell me
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  why they love them. And then I try to play alongside
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  them. So like I've done the deep dive
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  with them today we're talking about Lizzo and you could say
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  the truth hurts, but Jenny, tell me how you feeling?
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  I'm. Feeling good as hell.
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  Yeah. So, yeah, you and I talked about
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  doing Lizzo like, I don't know, probably a year ago, like I, I
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  put Lizzo on the board and we'll, I'll talk more about this
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  later, but I, I put Lizzo on the board and you I think said that
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  you'd be up for doing it. Talk to me about Lizzo and what
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  what is it about her that made you want to jump on board for
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  this? Well, first of all, I want to
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  say the first time I ever heard about Lizzo, my immediate
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  reaction was to go to Lauren and say this bitch stole your name.
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  Because at the time we were playing Ingress and you were
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  going by the name L to the Izzo. And I was like, specially spell
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  her fucking name. And you're like, yeah, but she's
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  cool. And I was like, OK, then I'm
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  fine with her. If, if, if you give your
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  blessing, then we're fine. We're fine.
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  So it took me a little while to get on board with her, but man.
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  So I haven't done AD program in a minute either.
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  So I kind of forgot how to even talk about stuff, words and
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  things. But like when she really started
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  getting big, like in 2018-2019, it hit at just the right time
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  for me. And she's now like a permanent
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  part of my listening repertoire. And you know, we, Lauren and I
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  don't have the same taste in music as we were mentioning just
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  before the show, but this is this is one of the areas that we
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  overlap. The crossover, the crossover as
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  it were. So like you and I were talking
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  again, Jenny, at at some point last year and you go, we should
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  rope Lauren into it. So we kind of we kind of put it
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  together and we said, Oh yeah, by the way, Lauren, you should
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  do this with us. And you said yes.
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  So talk to me about the Yeah, talk to me about.
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  It Yeah well like Jenny mentioned this bitch stole my
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  name so I have gone by Lizzo pretty much my whole life it's
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  my first initial and last name for anybody who's not familiar
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  with docs yourself so yeah sorry about that actually my discord
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  name is L to the Izzo 12/20 they're.
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  Going to come find you, Jack. You know, Oh yeah, that's right.
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  Listeners can't see my Discord name.
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  I forgot about that. But the first time I ever heard
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  about her, she was a guest on Phoebe Robinson's podcast So
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  Many White Guys and the the Stick of So Many White guys is
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  that she didn't interview any white guys.
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  Nice. Except Tom Hanks at the very
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  end, she made an exception, an exception for one famous white
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  guy. But I, you know, like I've Ebe
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  Robinson was somebody I'd been following for a while.
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  She's announcing that she's going to have Lizzo on her
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  podcast. And I'm like, what?
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  I didn't agree to this. I would love to be on, but no
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  one asked me. So I was actually very annoyed
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  first, as if you don't know Lizzo's given name, there's no
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  Izzo in it. There's no Liz, there's no L Her
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  name is Melissa. I don't know how she goes by
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  Lizzo, but anyway, she's cool. And actually now more people
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  know how to pronounce my name. But I the first I heard her was
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  on that podcast where she was just being interviewed.
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  Wasn't even, you know, singing or anything, but they did play
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  one of her songs and I was like, oh, well, that's pretty good.
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  And I think I added her to my Spotify follows, but I didn't
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  really do any deep dives until she really blew up.
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  And I guess like her first big one for everybody was probably
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  Truth Hurts. And I just remember it hitting
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  and being like thank God she has made me proud.
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  Like if she hit with a song that was a total dud and everybody
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  knew it but couldn't get it out of their heads, then I'd forever
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  be associated with that. But you know, I'm, I'm proud.
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  I'm proud to have the same name. So, so you know, you, you
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  mentioned truth hurts and that's where I come in, right?
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  That's my first awareness of, of Lizzo.
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  And I was like, oh man, I like this.
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  I like this song. And you know, I feel like there
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  was a couple songs after that I was like, Oh yeah, I kind of
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  like this. I like the this is pretty cool.
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  I like this. And over time, randomly, I think
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  last year maybe on, on one of our Rd. trips, Kristen was just
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  playing Lizzo and I'm just listening.
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  I'm like, oh man, I think I might like Lizzo more than I
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  thought. I, you know, I like, I, I think
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  I'd like to get into her and, and then shoot, I think even
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  before that we were watching her show.
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  I forget what it was called, but she had like a reality show with
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  her dancers and we were kind of into it.
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  So like before I even got into the music, I was like, I kind of
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  like her. And I remember she did Dave
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  Letterman's Netflix show and I really enjoyed that.
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  And again, like I was getting this idea of who she was before
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  even really diving into anything past the hits that had come my
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  way. So you know, I had basically 0
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  baseline coming into this. I will say this, Jenny, like as
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  as we were getting ready to, you know, finalize, you know, when
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  are we going to do this? You noticed that there was
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  something missing. And even though it made me bump
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  3 songs off, I'm glad you did. And we'll talk about, like, the
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  songs as we get to them, yeah. I did not realize that.
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  I'm so sorry for missing that because like, I already had
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  songs on my list that were on that EP and I was like, this
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  needs to be here. I'm sorry.
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  No, no worries, I mean. Whatever.
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  For whatever reason, when we first compiled that list, they
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  weren't available. Streaming.
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  Because I had looked at, I had looked at that and it was like,
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  it's not on there. And I'm like, why isn't this on
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  there? I was like, oh, whatever.
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  It's, you know, I'm like, maybe they're included in something
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  else. Maybe.
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  Well if you filter on Spotify by like albums, it won't come up
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  because it's it's technically like a single or EP so.
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  Yeah, that might be. That's probably why then, yeah.
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  And it should also be, you know, like 2 new songs, right?
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  No, that's exactly where I was going.
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  I was just going to say like she, she's got 2 new songs and
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  probably, I assume a record to follow.
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  So we covered, I think it's 4 records and four records and an
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  EP, I think, and then two new songs.
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  So talk to me about, you know, putting your list together for
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  this one, Jenny. Like is this a simple,
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  straightforward thing or or you know, I know you've, you've kind
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  of changed your song process. Yeah, this one was I really just
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  went on vibes on this one to be honest.
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  I and even though we've been trying to plan this for like
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  what, 6 months now something. Like.
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  That I think I basically did it like in the past 48 hours, I may
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  have picked my last song like right before the show because it
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  you know, I don't know, like so here's The thing is that like
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  she she has very common themes with her songs.
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  There's a lot of girl power. There's a lot of fucking got
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  broken up with and I'm bouncing back kind of vibes, you know, so
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  I tried to like round that out and not pick all of those.
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  But if, if I didn't pick a lot of them, it wouldn't be true to
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  her, her and who she is. So there were a few songs that
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  I, I kind of left off because I was like, I don't, I think
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  that's already represented here. So it was I, I try to not think
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  about it too much anymore. Basically is where I'm at.
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  And that last 48 hours, just like, OK, I just got to make a
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  choice. I got to pull the trigger.
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  So as you're, you're going through this, Lauren, like, is
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  this something that a list you completed back in the, you know,
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  back in October or whenever it was and then just revisited it
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  or what was your, your process like for this?
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  Yeah, I started it back in October and pretty quickly had
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  it like, and like Jenny said, there's a lot like, there are
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  songs of hers that I have heard a million times and I still
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  don't skip them. Like I still listen to it the
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  whole way through, whether it's going on my list or not.
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  I'm like, oh, but this vibe like I can't skip this song right
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  now, you know, So I feel like back then I did have AI had a
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  pretty good idea of what was going to be on my list.
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  And then I did the same thing this week when we added, when we
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  added the rest of them in, took a couple off.
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  And then I decided to give, to give it another listen this
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  morning. And I was like, why am I doing
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  this? I need to.
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  And there were a few that I took off and I was like, OK, I'm
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  going to list them as honorable mentions.
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  I don't, I don't want them on there anymore.
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  And it just again, I didn't always pay attention to, well,
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  this has a similar vibe or a similar theme to something else,
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  which I know is kind of the point, but I just have to go
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  with what speaks to me right now.
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  So that's kind of how I that's kind of how I played this one.
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  And that's how she is too. Like it's, it's a very much she
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  writes songs that speak to like what you're going through at
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  this time. And that's, I think that's a
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  core part of her success. Like as I was listening to some
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  of the older stuff like you can hear her evolution and like she
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  she finds her niche. You know, and she just.
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  Goes with that. Dude, I'm, I'm so glad you said
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  that because like I was going to lead with that.
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  Like I like Lizzo bangers. I think it's a good record, but
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  when she expands into the pop world and on the next record,
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  like Nah, man, like that's that's the gold.
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  She just found a whole nother voice, a whole nother like gear
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  to her songwriting. And you know, I don't think I
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  took it into account, but like she's a like an actual musician
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  on top of like whatever you think about her, like she's
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  she's in there making the beats like playing instruments,
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  playing the flute, Like she's a trained musician on top of like
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  all all of this. Like you guys kind of mentioned,
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  like the idea of of body positivity.
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  And I feel like this should be noted as well because now she's
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  catching heat because she lost some weight and it's like we
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  can't have it both ways. Y'all were slamming her just a
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  couple years ago because she was overweight.
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  And so she's oh, but no, it's about it's about loving
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  yourself, right? Like it's, it's not necessarily
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  about like, you know, I man, I love, I'm fat.
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  No, it's about I love me. And I think a lot of hey, man,
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  let's be real here. A lot of dudes like me who
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  aren't willing to like hear that.
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  Yeah, it's it's it almost feels envious, like I don't like
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  myself, so I need to cut you down for being so confident in
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  something that that I find distasteful for whatever reason.
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  And it's it's shitty and oh God, yeah, yeah.
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  Whole can of worms. Yeah, you know, and maybe we'll
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  dive into that a little bit more on, on after the fact.
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  But I, I feel like that is worth bringing here to the
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  conversation because it is part of it.
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  Like that is part of what catapulted her is this idea of
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  body positivity and her just being a warrior for that.
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  Like going out and being like, Nah, man, love yourself.
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  And if, if I was to boil Lizzo down to 2 words, that is what it
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  would be. And I, I think that she feels
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  that of herself and that's what she's trying to, to get us the
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  listener to do as well. Like, I don't know, maybe I'm
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  off base, but that's, that's that was what I got from it.
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  Nah, you nailed it. Nailed it.
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  All right, So I don't know if you had thoughts on that,
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  Lauren, but. I think, like Jenny said, you
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  nailed it. I don't want to, you know, beat
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  a dead horse about. Fair enough.
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  I was, but it is fun to beat a dead horse, that's true.
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  Too. You got to give her that.
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  Yeah, you got to tell that that horse who's boss.
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  Yeah. No, it's definitely, I mean her,
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  her body positivity, her sexuality, you know, her, her
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  role in society as a black artist, you know, which sorry
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  that it's 3 white people on the panel.
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  But I do feel like she's got songs that talk about that too,
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  you know, like there was something where I was like, can
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  the three of us really discuss this?
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  And it's like, well, we have to like that's the whole point of
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  it is like it needs to be seen. It needs to be said, you know,
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  So I, I think all of that kind of encompasses her.
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  And and like you mentioned Justin, like her as a musician,
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  she is so musically aware of everything that she's putting
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  into these songs and listening to bangers.
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  This was my first time listening to bangers all the way through.
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  I had never done that deep of a dive into it before.
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  And it it's so, it's so forceful.
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  Like I was really impressed that, you know, she was very
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  young when she put it out too. I was impressed by that, even
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  though it's not not necessarily her sweet spot, like you said,
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  when she starts to turn into pop, but I feel like there's a
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  lot on there that she's saying and that she's putting out into
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  the world and, and speaking about who she is and, and I lost
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  my point, but. Well, I'll say this before we
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  move on to the to the next part. I, you know, I don't mean to put
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  this in, you know, I apologize for using this word, especially
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  in this conversation. Wait on her.
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  But like, she's from Minneapolis and it I'm not off base to put
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  her in line with Prince like. No.
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  Yeah, it's very. I mean, you mentioned the
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  sexuality, like she's not afraid of that.
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  Like she's not afraid to put that on display.
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  And who did that better than the purple 1 like?
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  Yeah. You know, so like, to your
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  point, Lauren, I, I, I feel like a lot of people may just skip
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  over this episode because they assume they don't like Lizzo.
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  And I think they shouldn't, you know, I, I can't, I can't make
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  them. But I think a lot of people
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  skipped over Lizzo and the reason we're doing this is they
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  really shouldn't. So this feels like this feels
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  like it could be like nothing but home runs Jenny, but it also
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  feels like there is enough here that we could, you know, all be
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  in different corners of of, you know, each record.
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  So what do you think as far As for the final say, how many do
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  you think we get through? Oh.
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  Man, I'm actually I'm feeling optimistic today.
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  I'm going to say 6. OK, Yeah.
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  That's optimistic for me, I think.
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  Maybe not for. The rest of the the listeners or
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  the the players and panelists? But it is for me.
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  I mean, it does feel like there's a minimum of, of four
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  homers and then like, you know, it depends on how it found the
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  rest of us. What do you think, Lauren?
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  Jenny's going with six. You're saying how many, Homer?
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  How many? We're all going to pick the same
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  3 of. Oh, were we not doing that yet
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  when you said OK? Yeah, what are we?
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  What does this mean? All right, so sorry.
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  Like I, you know, we've, it's been so long that I, I haven't
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  thought about it. So what we're doing is we're
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  picking how many that all three of us will have and.
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  Yeah, that's. OK.
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  And whoever gets the number, if you get the number exactly, you
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  get to pick the 10th song without any, you know, if you
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  want to pick something out of the bin, you can do that.
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  Yeah. Like it's, it's a lot of bit of
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  weight to it. It's a little bit of pressure,
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  but it also you get to win something.
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  Well, you guys made some comments about bangers.
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  I really loved bangers. I might have a lot more from
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  there than you 2 do. I'm going to go with five.
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  OK, All right. I think that is very telling,
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  so. Jenny, you said 6, right?
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  OK. Yeah.
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  Then I'll stay with five is this Price is right rules.
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  Nope, you have to hit it right on the head all.
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  Right. OK.
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  I'm going to go with four. You know, based on what Lauren
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  said, I think, I think we have 6 in US.
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  I really do. But I don't based on what Lauren
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  said, I don't know if we can do better than that.
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  So I think I'm going to play it safe and and take the four since
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  it's on the board. All right, we're going to now.
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  That we've all chosen spoilers. I've picked more from bangers
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  than I thought I would, so. Oh shit.
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  Well, damn. All right.
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  We might be over 6 maybe. We might be.
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  Maybe. All right, So we're going to
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  take a quick, quick pause and when we come back, we going to
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  play the game, Jack. It's the program.
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  And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
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  The three of us have combed through the Lizzo discography
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  and plucked out 20 songs that were now going to mash together
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  in an attempt to create a top 10 surrogate for you.
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  In case you have never given Lizzo the time of day.
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  And how dare you. I mean, this song's already come
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  up a bunch. It.
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  I think it has a good shot at at #1 I understand if it's not.
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  And I guess the first way to finding out is do we all have
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  it? How about truth Hurts?
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  Absolutely. Have it.
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  Yeah, right. For this, for this, you kind of
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  have to not only is it the breakout, like it, you know, it,
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  it takes her from, you know, just kind of putting out
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  whatever to like a certified hit, like a certified crossover
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  hit. But like, I don't know, man.
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  It's it's a great beat, It's a great song, It's fun and I just
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  be loving Truth hurts. Like like Lauren, you mentioned,
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  like I've, I've heard truth hurts God knows how many times
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  at this point and I couldn't skip it like for this or all the
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  subsequent times have come back to the list.
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  Like whenever I hear it, I still turn it up.
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  Like that's why I had to start there.
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  So great. I feel like whenever a song
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  becomes a meme, you know I just take adna test.
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  Turns out I'm 100%. That, yeah.
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  What the fuck ever. But I feel like whenever a song
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  becomes a meme like it is, it's reached its its peak, you know?
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  Yeah, yeah. So.
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  And you all know what was going on in my life when that song
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  came out. Like I have never legitimately
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  heard a song that spoke to me every fucking word.
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  Yeah. Yeah, and I would.
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  I literally would have that song on repeat for quite a long time.
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  I'll just say that. Quite a long time.
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  I know every single fucking word.
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  And it's one of the few songs I would do in karaoke.
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  Hell yeah. So challenge me to that one day.
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  Yes. You do that and I'll do a Limp
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  Bizkit Ichi alive. I'll do it the same day.
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  That'll be great. All right.
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  Truth Hurts is in Boom, baby Boom.
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  Off to a good start. Where do you want to go, Jenny?
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  I mean, you took my number one. So you know, I think then the
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  one that I'm going to go with was kind of one that is off the
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  newer album. That was kind of a surprise.
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  Girls. Guess.
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  She does the Beastie Boys beat and kind of samples then.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. I don't go Homer.
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  I like it, though. You know what?
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  Yeah, I'll take that too. I mean, part of it does.
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  Do you, do you ever go back and listen to that song?
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  The Beastie Boys Girls. Yeah, we just did that on Music
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  League. And you know, the way I set up
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  the Music League was like, you have to downvote 1.
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  And that was an easy downvote because wow, it's it did not
• 22:43
  hold up. No, like it may not have ever
• 22:45
  been good to begin with. Right, like.
• 22:49
  It's. Fun and it's like so I like that
• 22:52
  she kind of took that exactly and made it into something new
• 22:56
  and kind of like re refocused the power of that that song and
• 23:01
  I feel like, you know, I I don't know, but I feel like Beastie
• 23:05
  Boys would probably approve of. That because they kind of.
• 23:07
  Changed their tune. Oh, 1000% I mean, considering
• 23:12
  MCA said the disrespecting women has got to be through in a song,
• 23:18
  I think yeah, no, you nailed it. I there's nothing to add there.
• 23:22
  100% I think they would they are the remaining members of Beastie
• 23:26
  Boys would be and or are on board for that.
• 23:29
  So right. I mean they gave her permission
• 23:32
  to use it. Yeah.
• 23:34
  Number one, and if you've heard any of them talk about it, yeah,
• 23:37
  I just, I actually just finished their book on audiobook and they
• 23:42
  talk specifically about that song and other things that
• 23:45
  they've said. Yeah.
• 23:47
  So they don't talk about Lizzo. They talk about their song
• 23:51
  Girls. Sorry.
• 23:54
  You should have been clear. There, no, but that makes sense
• 23:56
  too. That's.
• 23:56
  Probably a conversation for after the fact or somewhere else
• 23:59
  since yeah, we're talking about Lizzo, not the Beastie Boys.
• 24:03
  That's true. All right.
• 24:06
  Where you want to go, Lauren? Well, I'm trying to.
• 24:14
  I'm trying to not get hurt too much.
• 24:16
  I don't want to get my feelings hurt like a girl.
• 24:23
  And I went with like a girl over girls.
• 24:29
  I think that was kind of a late cut for me, not that I really
• 24:33
  like cut things so much as like I it was in the consideration
• 24:36
  and it didn't make it just. Didn't have room?
• 24:38
  I'll save you. I got it.
• 24:40
  And it was one that almost didn't make it for me.
• 24:42
  And then I gave it another listen and I was like, God, no,
• 24:46
  I'm keeping it. There's a lot of that with,
• 24:50
  with. That, like, really epitomizes
• 24:52
  that girl power. Yeah, like.
• 24:55
  Wake up in the morning feeling like I could be president,
• 24:58
  right? Yeah.
• 25:00
  Like it's just like, hell yeah, yeah, that's.
• 25:02
  Yeah. All.
• 25:05
  Right. All right, so it gets a 2.
• 25:07
  It gets to hang around. I'm into it.
• 25:09
  All right, all right, let me mark that on mine.
• 25:12
  OK. I was listening to this one.
• 25:18
  Just maybe 5 minutes before we went on.
• 25:22
  So let's take a swing here 'cause I love you, I do.
• 25:28
  Have it. Yes, I do have it also.
• 25:31
  Oh hell yeah. Yes, I, you know, I'm going to
• 25:34
  be honest, I didn't think that was going to be one of the home
• 25:37
  runs, but I'm glad it is because it's a home run.
• 25:40
  Like the first time I heard that, 'cause that's the first
• 25:44
  song on 'cause I Love you. So on our playlist, it comes
• 25:48
  right after bangers and you immediately hear how much she's
• 25:54
  changing. You go, oh, OK.
• 25:56
  Like this is something like, it's it completely
• 25:59
  contextualized my thoughts on what I had already pulled from
• 26:03
  bangers. Like it's, it's powerful.
• 26:07
  Like her voice, like just immediately coming in, like
• 26:10
  singing, like going for it. It's like, yeah.
• 26:14
  Like that. There was no way that wasn't
• 26:16
  making my list. Yeah, it's it's a real power
• 26:20
  ballad, you know, and like you said, with, with bangers being
• 26:26
  much more hip hop and just her vocal power on it is so strong
• 26:33
  and so beautiful. So it's a nice contrast when you
• 26:37
  listen to it back-to-back like that.
• 26:39
  And it was, it was absolutely one that I wasn't going to cut.
• 26:44
  Yeah. All right, just like that.
• 26:48
  Two down where you want to go, Jenny.
• 26:52
  All right, I'm going to. One of the things that I love
• 26:54
  about Lizzo is that, yes, she's singing about empowerment and
• 26:58
  she's singing about confidence and she's putting that
• 27:01
  confidence in all of her listeners.
• 27:04
  But the other thing I love is that she's fucking stupid.
• 27:10
  She is just fucking dumb and she's having fun and one of the
• 27:15
  first songs and this is one of the songs that I where I I felt
• 27:19
  like I needed coconut oil added and it's going to be a miss and
• 27:23
  I don't give a shit, but where the hell my phone?
• 27:27
  Where the hell my? Phone not a miss because I have
• 27:30
  it for the same damn reason. Oh, it's in my hand.
• 27:38
  I. Got right before the show I was
• 27:40
  like, how many times a day do you hear me say that?
• 27:43
  Like literally quoting that song.
• 27:47
  I can't make it unionist, but I love that you both had it for
• 27:50
  the same reason that that makes me really fucking happy.
• 27:53
  So it's not. It's not just that reason, it's
• 27:56
  also like the beat is almost like a go go beat or not a go go
• 28:01
  beat, but it's like it has a very strong like marching band
• 28:05
  style. And I know Lizzo did marching
• 28:08
  band through high school too. She talked about that on that
• 28:10
  first podcast I heard her on. Yep.
• 28:13
  So it's like a really, it's just a bop.
• 28:17
  It's just a fun bop and. And she doesn't really tell
• 28:21
  stories very much in songs, but that's something that's always
• 28:24
  going to get me. And here's the story about her,
• 28:26
  like stumbling home from the club drunk as fuck.
• 28:30
  And like, you can picture her stumbling around in these high
• 28:33
  heeled shoes and like, where the hell is my phone?
• 28:38
  She just wants to call a lift and she can't find her fucking
• 28:40
  phone because it's in her hand. Yeah, all right, it gets it too.
• 28:45
  It gets to hang around Lauren. All right about how about pants
• 28:57
  versus dresses? Oh man, we're going to.
• 29:03
  We're going to miss on all of the the bangers, aren't we?
• 29:06
  All the bangers. Yeah, I feel like that's the
• 29:08
  album that's going to be the one, because I don't have it
• 29:10
  either. I think that's going to be the
• 29:12
  one where everybody's on something else divisive, as it
• 29:18
  were. Again, good record.
• 29:21
  It's just I feel like she really grows into herself on Because I
• 29:24
  Love You so, All right. I mean, we seem to be dancing
• 29:30
  around some of these, so I'll do another one that feels like it
• 29:34
  could have all three of us. How about juice?
• 29:39
  I don't. Yes, I do have it.
• 29:42
  I'll take the 2. Is that just another instance
• 29:46
  of, you know just not enough room or was that calculated?
• 29:51
  It was kind of both. It was kind of both.
• 29:53
  I I was pretty sure you guys were going to have it.
• 29:55
  It was one that I felt like more than even to some of her other
• 30:00
  hits, I felt like it wore out its welcome a little tiny bit
• 30:05
  and it was easier for me to cut it than some of the other ones.
• 30:09
  And I already had like 7 from that albums.
• 30:13
  It was, it was like, let me let me just hope that somebody else
• 30:17
  has it. But I do love it.
• 30:18
  I mean, I'm not going to skip it when it comes on SO.
• 30:21
  I feel when I was doing my list, I was thinking about how Justin
• 30:25
  doesn't like the hits. So I was putting a lot of the
• 30:28
  hits on just to make sure they're in the conversation.
• 30:32
  I mean, And also they're just really good songs, you know?
• 30:36
  But I'm like, let's at least have a conversation about these
• 30:38
  if they're not going to get chosen by somebody else, so.
• 30:42
  I can't believe I haven't shaked shaken that yet.
• 30:45
  That's crazy. All right, well.
• 30:49
  But also, I mean, it is the game we're introducing people to to a
• 30:54
  new artist. If they haven't listened to her
• 30:57
  and they've heard these hits before, we got to give them
• 31:00
  something else, you know? Yeah, I always like if there's
• 31:04
  anything. Wrong with not picking hits.
• 31:05
  Right. I like to always say that maybe
• 31:10
  you've heard juice, but you should listen to it again like
• 31:14
  you really should, because maybe you listen to it at the wrong
• 31:17
  time of your life and now would be a better time to listen to
• 31:22
  it. I mean, if, if it's, it's funny
• 31:25
  to say this, but like, if she was able to find me on this
• 31:29
  show, like, you know, doing this, like if she was, if I was
• 31:34
  able to connect to her, there really isn't many people out
• 31:38
  there that she shouldn't be able to connect to.
• 31:40
  I, you know, I don't know, maybe I'm putting too much stock into
• 31:44
  humanity, but like, but but she, she found me.
• 31:50
  She put out her work like, and to be frank, none of this, none
• 31:55
  of these songs are for me, but they found their way to me.
• 31:59
  So just saying. So Juice is me, Jenny, you're
• 32:05
  up. You know, I don't know where I'm
• 32:08
  going to go next. Fuck it.
• 32:11
  How about her song with Missy Elliott Tempo?
• 32:14
  Because Missy God. Yes.
• 32:16
  Oh, that makes me happy that you guys have it.
• 32:19
  Oh, did you not have it so? Happy.
• 32:22
  I'm so happy you didn't have it, Justin.
• 32:24
  No, I don't. I'm glad that you guys do
• 32:26
  though. I love Missy, OK?
• 32:30
  OK. Kind of to Jenny's point before
• 32:33
  about, you know, why she didn't have juice, I have a lot from
• 32:36
  that record. Something has to go right?
• 32:39
  So we'll take the two, yeah. Just but everything about this,
• 32:44
  I mean, Missy being on it, the even just that hook that I'm a
• 32:47
  thick bitch. I need tempo.
• 32:50
  Yeah, yeah. Like, like I just love.
• 32:55
  I love everything about that song so hard.
• 32:59
  Yeah. All right, we get the two,
• 33:02
  though It's not, it's not like it's dead in the water, Lauren.
• 33:09
  OK, let's go back to bangers, Lizzie Borden.
• 33:16
  Man, I don't have that one. We're going to miss on every
• 33:19
  Bangers song, aren't we? I don't have it either, although
• 33:23
  I will, I will say this, I did almost try to find room for it
• 33:26
  when I when I was listening before the show.
• 33:30
  I really do like that. So I like, again, I like a lot
• 33:33
  of bangers, but it just ultimately most of it did felt
• 33:38
  like it didn't fit what I was trying to frame for her.
• 33:42
  So, yeah, all right. Let's move on.
• 33:56
  Let me try something out from special How about how about
• 34:01
  everybody's gay God? Damn it, I wanted to put that
• 34:05
  one. I yeah, same.
• 34:07
  Oh, Bend. I wanted to Yeah, Bend.
• 34:11
  I had it on my list until this morning.
• 34:15
  All right, I'm so. Sorry, it was bound to happen.
• 34:19
  Bend. Yeah.
• 34:20
  Pointing. All right, Jenny.
• 34:24
  I can't read my own handwriting. Well, shit, I was going to pick
• 34:31
  the the song that I passed on that one for.
• 34:35
  Oh, it's about damn time, because it had like kind of a
• 34:38
  similar like disco Y kind of Motown vibe to it.
• 34:44
  And so that's why I I picked one of the two.
• 34:48
  Yeah, I got about damn time, of course.
• 34:50
  And so do I. Yeah, yeah.
• 34:54
  There we go. That one kind of felt like a
• 35:01
  have to have, whereas I feel like the other one just kind of
• 35:07
  made it because I liked it. And all right about damn time is
• 35:15
  in. And Lauren?
• 35:25
  All right, let's go with the other hit.
• 35:26
  Good as hell. Yeah, yeah. 2 three There we go.
• 35:33
  Now we're cooking with gas all. Right.
• 35:36
  Although that might be like the last Gimme.
• 35:43
  There's a lot of great stuff and that one.
• 35:44
  At karaoke. That one's fun.
• 35:49
  I feel like this was like is was this the one after Truth hurts?
• 35:54
  Yes. And like, again, it kind of
• 35:59
  changed immediately what I thought of Lizzo.
• 36:03
  Like I thought she was going to be like this hip hop artist
• 36:05
  because Truth Hurts kind of fits a little closer to what she was
• 36:09
  doing on bangers. Like even though musically I
• 36:11
  think it's different. This is not that.
• 36:15
  This is her singing and you know, horns and kind of horny
• 36:22
  and I love it. I think it's great and again,
• 36:27
  like it's all about not even body positive, just positively
• 36:33
  like I, I feel good, like I, you know, check me out.
• 36:36
  I I feel good. Can't nobody hold me down.
• 36:39
  I love that. So all right, good as hell
• 36:44
  brings us up to my 4, which means we need to at least do one
• 36:50
  more. So I don't win because I don't
• 36:53
  want to, although I think I could.
• 36:56
  I think I could. I, I could pick a, a good Lizzo
• 37:00
  song to be our 10th song if it came down to me.
• 37:04
  All right, so we're at back around to me.
• 37:20
  Let me try a coconut oil track. How about worship?
• 37:24
  Hell yeah. Nice boom.
• 37:29
  The no for me, but I fully support it.
• 37:31
  That's a no for me, dog. I literally could have had the
• 37:36
  entire coconut oil EP. It was very hard for me to not
• 37:39
  do that. Like I said, like there's
• 37:42
  nothing I skip Like I would, I'd be like, I'm not going to put
• 37:47
  this song on, but I'm going to listen to it, you know, even
• 37:52
  today, like I'm, I'm, you know, trying to get my last three
• 37:55
  songs and going through, you know, the whole discography and
• 38:00
  still not skipping songs, you know.
• 38:03
  I think I probably could have made room for even more coconut
• 38:06
  oil tracks if I didn't have other panels that I was working
• 38:11
  on this week. Like if I could have given it
• 38:13
  another listen I probably would have done the work to find cuts,
• 38:16
  but I I managed to get a couple in here.
• 38:19
  So worship gets to Jenny. Let me pick one from bangers
• 38:26
  because I don't think I've done that yet.
• 38:29
  So like, like I said, it was kind of hit and miss.
• 38:33
  Some of the songs were pretty good, Some of them like, some of
• 38:38
  them like she. She was really an incredible
• 38:39
  rapper and Bloodlines was one of the ones that stood out for me
• 38:44
  on that album. I don't.
• 38:47
  I have bloodlines, yeah. So we got 2.
• 38:51
  We all have a 2 from from bangers.
• 38:54
  At least I don't have it. Nice.
• 38:57
  Can't make it a three, but at least it doesn't go into the
• 39:00
  bin. Yeah, Now that was a, that's a
• 39:04
  really good one. Just I thought I had notes on
• 39:09
  it, but now I don't see my notes on it.
• 39:11
  But that was one that stuck out to me from the beginning.
• 39:14
  It was something that I, I hadn't heard bloodlines before I
• 39:17
  started doing the listen and it was one that stuck out
• 39:22
  immediately that like this is going on.
• 39:24
  I have to have this on my list. All right, Lauren.
• 39:37
  Let's stay with with bangers and be still.
• 39:42
  No. Nope.
• 39:45
  Because that was one where as many as we.
• 39:47
  Thought. She was just, she was just
• 39:49
  hitting the flute on that one. So good, so good.
• 39:54
  And I was like, yeah, this one's coming.
• 39:56
  I think this is one that I added back like I had had it.
• 39:59
  I took it off and then I put it back on this morning.
• 40:05
  I get it. Yeah, all right.
• 40:10
  Should I try my bangers track? See if I can find one of y'all?
• 40:13
  Yeah. All right, how about go?
• 40:18
  No. No, no, the no go I'm.
• 40:24
  Just going to save my bangers for the end of the list when we
• 40:26
  clear out because at this point I don't think I'm going to.
• 40:29
  Hit. Yeah, that's all right.
• 40:33
  Right. Go goes to the bin.
• 40:36
  Go out. Of my face.
• 40:40
  Jenny. Where am I to go?
• 40:44
  How about lingerie? Damn it.
• 40:48
  I don't have that one, no. Me neither.
• 40:51
  Dang, I, I just really like that one.
• 40:53
  She was just, she was just feeling herself and she's like,
• 40:56
  I'm going to sit here and hang out my lingerie and hope that
• 40:59
  she'd show up. It was a little bit, it was a
• 41:01
  little bit more like wistful for her, but she was still, you
• 41:04
  know, doing her thing. I liked it.
• 41:09
  Sometimes they go into the bin. It's unfortunate.
• 41:13
  All right, Lauren. I'm going to stay with bangers
• 41:18
  and go with faded. Yeah.
• 41:21
  All right, another 2. She she starts off with that
• 41:24
  it's that L to the Izzo. So that was, you know, she, she
• 41:29
  called my name. I figured I had to keep it in
• 41:31
  there. Yeah, and the last line was what
• 41:34
  spoke to me in that song was like, basically the world is
• 41:37
  shit, but I'm going to get faded, man.
• 41:41
  That's. Does that speak to now or what?
• 41:46
  Yeah. All right.
• 41:50
  Which ones do I feel pretty good about?
• 41:56
  Still got a lot left here. How about naked?
• 42:02
  No. I don't have that one neither,
• 42:04
  no. Into the bin, Jenny, OH.
• 42:09
  Shit, I got to choose again. Yeah, that was fast.
• 42:17
  How about exactly how I feel? Yes.
• 42:22
  I don't have that and I don't know why I don't.
• 42:24
  Dang, I love that. I don't know where it, I don't
• 42:27
  know where it went. I thought I had it.
• 42:30
  And then I'm like, wait, you said it out loud?
• 42:32
  And I'm like what? I hate that.
• 42:36
  I hate that. You, you look over and over and
• 42:38
  over again. You're like, I swear to God, I
• 42:40
  thought it did. Where did it?
• 42:41
  Why did it make it? I don't know.
• 42:44
  Look, there may have been at least one or two deprogrammed
• 42:47
  episodes where I did that and I scratched something else off the
• 42:50
  list. I'm kind of about to.
• 42:51
  Do that I really haven't. I'm kind of about to do that
• 42:56
  right now, but I I guess I can't.
• 42:58
  I'm not going to cheat. The integrity of the list.
• 43:03
  All right, Lauren. Cheating.
• 43:04
  Yeah, no cheating. How about to be loved?
• 43:09
  Yes. OK.
• 43:12
  Which album is that on? I don't think I have it but.
• 43:14
  That's all that was on special. No, I don't have that.
• 43:19
  One right to be loved. Am I ready?
• 43:23
  AM. I ready, yeah.
• 43:31
  We take that too. You were from that album that I
• 43:33
  thought. Me too, Yeah.
• 43:36
  I don't know, Special didn't do anything for me.
• 43:40
  There's been. Songs on it but it's like yeah
• 43:43
  like the themes that that she has in those songs were better
• 43:47
  represented in cuz I love you yes and like and I when I listen
• 43:52
  to bangers I was like man this is actually really good like it
• 43:54
  doesn't 100% fit but I'm going to pick like 5 songs from it or.
• 43:58
  Whatever. Yeah, no, I, I, I absolutely
• 44:02
  agree. Like Specials, not a bad album,
• 44:05
  it's just that, like you said, there's better representation of
• 44:08
  her her catalog on Cuz I Love You.
• 44:12
  And yeah, that's why I went with, I went with way more from
• 44:18
  Cuz I Love You than I did with Special.
• 44:21
  Yeah. Well let's go back to Cuz I love
• 44:24
  you then let's see if we can we can get one here.
• 44:28
  How about crybaby? No, no.
• 44:35
  I think I'm actually cleared out from that album.
• 44:37
  So hilarious. Hilarious you.
• 44:40
  Going to cry about it. I am crying.
• 44:43
  I'm crying right now. You crying because you hate me?
• 44:49
  I'm crying because. I hate me.
• 44:51
  All right, all right, Jenny. Let's see.
• 45:02
  OK, so my other pick from coconut oil was excuse me?
• 45:05
  Yes, yes. It's one of my honorable
• 45:10
  mentions, but it is not Dang. I love that one.
• 45:14
  She is like just full of herself and I'm fully here for it.
• 45:19
  Yeah. Feeling like a stripper.
• 45:21
  Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 45:26
  Boom 2 it is. You know, tell me we don't have
• 45:30
  one more. All of us in it.
• 45:34
  We got it, Lauren. Boys.
• 45:45
  Boys. I don't have boys.
• 45:48
  Boys, you don't, no. And Jenny, you don't either.
• 45:52
  No. I.
• 45:53
  That was like, if if I didn't already have 6 from that album,
• 45:57
  I would have picked that was going to be the next one.
• 46:00
  I really wanted it there because I fucking love that song.
• 46:03
  It is a really good song. And that's it's like like what
• 46:08
  you said, like I thought it was there.
• 46:11
  Like I looked at my list and I'm like, fuck no, it's not there.
• 46:14
  Shit. Like boys to me feels like it
• 46:17
  could be the number one with a bullet.
• 46:20
  It could like this could be the this could be the one that I
• 46:23
  think represents her to people who are like, I don't think I'm
• 46:27
  into Lizzo. And if I feel like it has a
• 46:30
  really good mix of pop and hip hop that, you know, like it,
• 46:37
  yes, she's rapping, yes, she's flowing.
• 46:39
  But I think it's not so hard that people who prefer more of a
• 46:42
  pop vibe could still get into it.
• 46:46
  I just, I just love the song. Like it hit so hard for me.
• 46:49
  And I yeah, I'm glad I got to talk about it even though it's
• 46:53
  not going any further. Look.
• 46:55
  If you we get one more unanimous.
• 46:57
  You. Get that song in.
• 46:59
  That's right. Yeah.
• 46:59
  OK, OK. I think we need one more, one
• 47:04
  more unanimous and no more than that.
• 47:06
  Yes, yeah. So I think cuz I I think I'm
• 47:12
  down to like 5. So I think maybe we do just one
• 47:14
  last round and then dump out. I think I think I guess I got to
• 47:23
  go with my best chance here. How about heaven help me?
• 47:28
  No. No, I don't have a chance.
• 47:31
  OK. I just, I just realized there's
• 47:33
  two songs written here that I didn't even see before.
• 47:35
  But neither of you said it, so I think I can't read my own
• 47:40
  handwriting. Into the bin.
• 47:42
  Heaven help me, goes Jenny. All right, so since I just found
• 47:46
  this on my list, I have to I have to mention the Barbie theme
• 47:51
  pink. I took it off today.
• 47:55
  God damn it, I just it needed to be part of the conversation.
• 47:59
  I was, I thought it would probably not make it through,
• 48:02
  but I really wanted to mention it because it that also has
• 48:07
  that, you know, she's Poppy and she's fun and confident, but
• 48:11
  she's also just being stupid. Like, yeah, cool.
• 48:14
  You know what? Every time.
• 48:16
  You know what this doesn't? Never mind.
• 48:18
  This doesn't, this doesn't help anything, but that's one of the
• 48:21
  songs that came off when we brought coconut oil in.
• 48:26
  So it's my own fault, that's what you're saying?
• 48:28
  I mean, we needed coconut oil, but like, maybe if I thought a
• 48:31
  little harder I could have kept pink.
• 48:35
  That bums me out. Love pink?
• 48:37
  I thought I was going to be the only one.
• 48:39
  I was like, all right, I think it's safe if I take this one
• 48:41
  out. All right, Lauren.
• 48:48
  Water me. No.
• 48:52
  No, OK, this is going to this is where it's starting to get
• 48:58
  difficult for me because I'm like, all these songs are great
• 49:00
  and I had them written down as possible options and then I
• 49:04
  chose not to put them on my. They were there somewhere at
• 49:07
  some point. All right, let me start from the
• 49:11
  top and I'll just dump out here the sign.
• 49:13
  Hey. I got it.
• 49:17
  I don't. OK, we'll take the 2 though.
• 49:22
  Special. Special.
• 49:26
  No. No.
• 49:30
  All right, I already did that one.
• 49:32
  That one. How about if you love me?
• 49:36
  Hey, got it. I don't.
• 49:42
  We'll take that too. And then last but not least, I
• 49:49
  bumped this in, You know, again, this is one of the songs that
• 49:52
  got brought in last minute. It's OK if neither of you had
• 49:55
  this, but I I I feel like where she's at now should be brought
• 49:59
  into the conversation I've got. Still bad.
• 50:03
  Yeah, honorable mention for me, but not on my list.
• 50:09
  We'll take that too, all right? That means somehow I won.
• 50:17
  I think that just goes to show that optimism never pays off.
• 50:23
  I've got a bunch more on my list I guess, but I guess you guys
• 50:26
  are done. Well, I was just going to say,
• 50:29
  like Jenny, you can dump out and then I mean you can make it a
• 50:33
  little bit harder here. Yeah, I got three.
• 50:36
  I got work Part 2. I have work.
• 50:40
  Wow, nice. You got that.
• 50:43
  Bus passes and Happy Meals and again, I can't read my own
• 50:51
  handwriting. I got to look, but it's from
• 50:52
  Bangers Paris. That's what it says.
• 50:59
  Me and Paris was again like one of the songs that got bumped
• 51:05
  when the new stuff. The thing I liked about that one
• 51:08
  it, it had a Missy Elliott vibe to it and it really caught my
• 51:11
  attention. Like, that was probably like the
• 51:13
  last thing I added. And I was like, you know what, I
• 51:15
  could hear her being influenced by Missy Elliott and I was like
• 51:18
  thinking about how much it must have meant to her to do a, a
• 51:22
  song with her on, you know, on tempo.
• 51:25
  So I I thought it was worth mentioning.
• 51:29
  Totally. That's it.
• 51:31
  All right, so for funsies, Lauren, just OK, whatever you
• 51:36
  got left. Yeah, this is man, this is
• 51:38
  heartbreaking. You guys from Banger all
• 51:42
  everything, everything I have left is from Bangers.
• 51:44
  Wow, You mentioned work, Jenny. So at least we got that one in
• 51:49
  the conversation batches and cookies, hot dish.
• 51:56
  And another one that I really thought could be like the leader
• 52:02
  of the list is T Baby. And that was a song.
• 52:08
  I just need to talk about it before we move on.
• 52:13
  When I first heard it, I did not understand the lyrics.
• 52:17
  Like I knew it was T baby and I'm like, what is she saying?
• 52:20
  And I actually had to look at the lyrics to see that the word
• 52:23
  was tar. And then really listening to it
• 52:28
  and she talks about, you know, black artists being kept down
• 52:31
  and being destroyed by the by the industry and by society and
• 52:36
  damn it. Yeah.
• 52:37
  And I, and I was like, us 3 white people are supposed to
• 52:42
  talk about this song and act like, great job and act like we
• 52:46
  understand it. And then I was like, but but it
• 52:48
  even says like, you're do you're making us do this.
• 52:51
  And you know who you are? I was like, Oh yeah, we're the
• 52:55
  white people who are in control. We need to talk about it and
• 52:58
  address it. That's the whole point.
• 53:02
  So I wish, I wish we had had one more home run.
• 53:07
  You know. So that you know, so that we
• 53:10
  could get this one on the list, but.
• 53:12
  But you know what's crazy is like I went out again when I was
• 53:15
  listening. That was one that caught my ear
• 53:18
  that I almost put back on. Yeah.
• 53:21
  And I didn't even look into it like you did.
• 53:23
  So like, I just was like, man, I I dig this one, you know, but
• 53:27
  who wants to do work when when you guys are coming on the call
• 53:30
  in 15 minutes? Like who wants to find the room
• 53:33
  like I? Mean like kind of multitasking
• 53:39
  and listening while I work and not fully paying attention.
• 53:42
  Like, I listened to it and, you know, I said I I went on vibes
• 53:46
  and I was like, oh, that's a good song and I didn't think
• 53:49
  about it or look into the lyrics.
• 53:50
  So yeah, double dumbass on me. Well, so it's one.
• 53:55
  Of the it's one of the few that I like went into the lyrics only
• 53:58
  because I couldn't understand her.
• 53:59
  Like I was like, what's what's saying?
• 54:02
  You know, I thought it was talk at first.
• 54:03
  That was talk baby. And I'm like, that's not what
• 54:06
  she's saying. What is it?
• 54:07
  And I was like, oh, oh, wow, OK. Yeah.
• 54:15
  So for starters, are the four that are in truth hurts because
• 54:18
  I love you good as hell. About damn time.
• 54:21
  It's already good start. I mean, I I know it's got three
• 54:23
  of the hits, but you should re listen to those hits.
• 54:27
  Like if you've made it this far into the conversation and you're
• 54:31
  into like what we're saying about her, you really should
• 54:34
  just go ahead and go listen to those.
• 54:37
  Let's look at some of these twos.
• 54:39
  We've got girls like a girl. Phone, Juice Tempo, Warship,
• 54:45
  Bloodlines Faded. Exactly how I feel to be loved.
• 54:51
  Excuse me, the sign if you love me Still bad and work Part 2.
• 54:58
  Those are all the twos. Is there one that's kind of
• 55:00
  jumping out at you, Jenny? I kind of leaning towards
• 55:07
  something from Bangers just to make sure that we save room for
• 55:10
  one. I'm looking at either work Part
• 55:13
  2 or Bloodlines. How do you feel about that,
• 55:19
  Lauren? I know you had both of those.
• 55:21
  Yeah, I did have both of those. I would go with bloodlines out
• 55:28
  of those too. If we're if we're choosing
• 55:30
  between those two, I would go bloodline, bloodlines.
• 55:33
  But I think it's fine to have a little more representation from
• 55:36
  bangers and put them both on there.
• 55:39
  So let's start with bloodlines, right?
• 55:41
  Yeah. We'll put that one through and
• 55:44
  we won't put anything else to bed right now because we've got
• 55:48
  6 songs. We've got plenty of space to
• 55:50
  like kind of figure it out. So it's the same question goes
• 55:54
  to you, Lauren. Is there one that you're kind of
• 55:56
  that kind of jumps out at you as can't believe it didn't get get
• 55:59
  through something that should be there?
• 56:11
  I want to go with phone. No, I'm sorry.
• 56:14
  I'm sorry, Tempo. OK, there you go.
• 56:20
  Yeah, I want to make sure Tempo gets on this list before phone,
• 56:24
  but I love them both. That's funny because I was going
• 56:27
  to say tempo so. Yes.
• 56:30
  OK, then we could easy get a pic.
• 56:35
  So I mean what if we do tempo and phone?
• 56:38
  Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it, OK?
• 56:41
  I will not argue that I and the fact that phone got through
• 56:45
  shocked and amazed. But also like right on.
• 56:52
  You brought it up like she's stupid.
• 56:54
  Like they had, they had the South Park episode, You had your
• 56:59
  picture for this episode, says Lizzo.
• 57:04
  She took that on the chin. Like she went with it.
• 57:07
  And she's very there is she's silly, You know, like, honestly,
• 57:13
  if we were, if you know not to bring up a sore subject, if Bell
• 57:17
  and Dubs was a little bit bigger, I guarantee you we could
• 57:19
  have got her on the show. Like she would have been amped
• 57:22
  on something stupid like that. Like so, right?
• 57:26
  Just. A little bit bigger.
• 57:30
  Just a lot of bit bigger, but you know.
• 57:33
  I mean, one of the first things that made me fall in love with
• 57:36
  her back in the day was seeing her playing the flute while
• 57:39
  twerking like it was. It was just beautiful and stupid
• 57:44
  all at the same time. Yeah, You know what it what is
• 57:47
  our fucking motto? You know, like, yeah, so we're
• 57:52
  up to seven. So now we got to kind of start
• 57:55
  looking at there's four through from because I love you.
• 57:59
  Is that, do we call that a line? Do we call that a limit on that
• 58:02
  record or are we just taking best available at this point?
• 58:08
  I wouldn't want to cut it off just yet.
• 58:11
  OK, Yeah. But I think we lean heavily
• 58:13
  towards the other ones if we can.
• 58:15
  All right, that makes sense. Totally.
• 58:18
  We've got one from Special, one from bangers and one from
• 58:24
  coconut oil at this point, and then four from Because I Love
• 58:28
  You. So what do we still got left
• 58:33
  here? Girls like a girl Juice wash
• 58:36
  Let's well, no, because juice is because I love you.
• 58:39
  Is is juice a contender, do we think?
• 58:44
  Or is it? Is it just happy to be here
• 58:46
  because we've got all the other hits?
• 58:51
  It's hard for me to say because I didn't pick it.
• 58:53
  Right, right. And all right, so then I guess
• 58:56
  Justin, me and you need to discuss that then.
• 59:00
  So how did you feel about Juice before doing this deep dive?
• 59:07
  You know, it was probably not my favorite of her songs.
• 59:12
  I think the fact that it's a hit actually helped it make my list.
• 59:18
  I think. I think we've got, as far as her
• 59:23
  hits go, we've got the ones that we need.
• 59:26
  Would I be against Juice going in?
• 59:29
  Because no, I got very few. I literally got an answer for
• 59:35
  this and the the three songs that that person gave me were
• 59:40
  Juice, Truth Hurts, and Good as Hell.
• 59:44
  So I at this point I wouldn't be against Juice going in, but it
• 59:48
  absolutely would not be like my top choice.
• 59:54
  I, I kind of agree with you that like I'm not against it going
• 59:57
  in, it's not my top choice right now, but.
• 1:00:01
  That's kind of why I kind of wanted to default to you being
• 1:00:05
  the newer EAR. I, I feel like there's, there's
• 1:00:11
  songs here that you know, you know, not saying do the same
• 1:00:20
  thing, but like say more maybe. But yes, yeah, no, I'm, I'm with
• 1:00:26
  you on it. Yeah, I'm totally with you.
• 1:00:28
  So I mean, maybe we just keep it around.
• 1:00:29
  If if, if we get around to 9 and it's still there, we kick it in.
• 1:00:37
  Well, let's also talk because both Jenny and I had still bad,
• 1:00:40
  you know, one of the new songs. Do we think it it's strong
• 1:00:43
  enough to be here as something to present to somebody?
• 1:00:48
  Yes, as the one person who didn't have it on my list, yes,
• 1:00:51
  feel bad is good enough. You said that was your
• 1:00:54
  honorable, one of your honorable mentions.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah, it was absolutely in my honorable mentions, yes.
• 1:01:00
  So we want to put that one in. I'm done with that, yes.
• 1:01:04
  All right, let's do that. Try to tackle easier ones first.
• 1:01:08
  All right, so now that brings us to 9 it, you know, is there
• 1:01:12
  something you'd kind of want to bring to the table at this
• 1:01:14
  point, Jenny? I I keep looking at girls
• 1:01:18
  honestly. Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  You know, like, like I said before, it's it kind of like
• 1:01:24
  repurposes that that song that was problematic and makes it new
• 1:01:28
  and kind of takes the power out of the the older song, you know?
• 1:01:33
  I love it. I think she she did a fantastic
• 1:01:37
  job, you know, with that. Yeah.
• 1:01:41
  What do you think, Lauren? I'm not against it like it's
• 1:01:48
  not, it's not up there on my list, but I'm not against it at
• 1:01:51
  all. I think it it deserves to be
• 1:01:54
  here just as much as some of these other ones.
• 1:01:56
  All right, so before putting it in like, is there a song that
• 1:01:59
  you'd put up against it? It'd be loved.
• 1:02:08
  Oh oh. Doesn't have to go against it,
• 1:02:10
  does it? Yeah.
• 1:02:12
  What? Else we're at #9.
• 1:02:16
  So. So we've got room for one more.
• 1:02:21
  And you know my final say. My only to be loved and faded, I
• 1:02:34
  think are the only ones on my list left and I would fight for
• 1:02:39
  to be loved over over faded. So between yeah, the only it I
• 1:02:52
  would prefer to be loved over girls, but I know that's not my
• 1:02:58
  call. So I don't know that I have a
• 1:03:03
  big argument. I don't have any big argument
• 1:03:07
  against girls. I can only say that let me look,
• 1:03:15
  do I have notes about what I love about to be loved?
• 1:03:21
  I. Mean, I I do not hate that song.
• 1:03:26
  It's yeah. You know.
• 1:03:28
  It's yeah, it's hard for me to argue against pretty much any of
• 1:03:32
  these songs at this point. Yeah, that's, that's, that's
• 1:03:39
  kind of where we are. Like, I'm, I don't want to argue
• 1:03:42
  against anything else. Like it's just because her
• 1:03:46
  catalog is just too strong. Like there's nothing I can say
• 1:03:50
  about why a song doesn't deserve to be on here.
• 1:03:55
  I'll see this because I have both of of these songs.
• 1:04:00
  I love Jenny's proposal of putting forward the song, like
• 1:04:06
  repurposing a gross song from the 80s and kind of like head
• 1:04:11
  on, like not really hidden in any way.
• 1:04:14
  Like I, I think that if you put that song in front of somebody,
• 1:04:21
  they especially like anybody, you know, in in their 40s that
• 1:04:27
  that remembers when the Beastie Boys song came out.
• 1:04:30
  It's familiar enough for them to go, what's going on here?
• 1:04:34
  And then maybe they go, oh, yeah, maybe that song was kind
• 1:04:37
  of gross. Maybe maybe I should replace
• 1:04:41
  that with this. I mean, I don't know if that's a
• 1:04:44
  strong enough argument to to go with it.
• 1:04:47
  But like, I do love that idea. So I don't know if that helps or
• 1:04:55
  hinders you on on girls, Lauren. If, but if you're both.
• 1:05:10
  But if you're both voting for, it doesn't even matter.
• 1:05:13
  I mean, you know it. I guess it depends on how
• 1:05:16
  stubborn you want to be really like.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, I can't. But that's the thing.
• 1:05:21
  Like I can't be stubborn against it.
• 1:05:22
  Like I can say, like I can cry that I think to be loved
• 1:05:27
  deserves to be on this list, but I don't know what what I would
• 1:05:30
  take off to get it on there. You know that's.
• 1:05:32
  The the eternal bitch. Of this show, honestly, phone
• 1:05:36
  and tempo both made it and I've got to be happy with that.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah, right. Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  Like that, that's kind of where I am.
• 1:05:43
  Like that? Phone and Tempo both made this
• 1:05:45
  list. That's kind of what happens to
• 1:05:47
  me at the stage of the program. Just like, you know what, my
• 1:05:49
  favorite ones either are either dead or they're in and I don't
• 1:05:54
  have any fight left. Sure, whatever you want.
• 1:05:58
  Well, I've, I'll say something else because I, I have song #10
• 1:06:04
  at the ready and I have, I have something I think will make you
• 1:06:09
  both very happy. I'm going to go with T Baby as,
• 1:06:12
  as our number 10. I think yes, I think yes.
• 1:06:19
  You made such a great point. Like, I'm so happy that you went
• 1:06:23
  in and dug in and found out what the song was about.
• 1:06:26
  I'd, I'd like I mentioned when you brought it up, it caught my
• 1:06:31
  ear. You know, I just not enough for
• 1:06:33
  me to like do the work to Boy, oh boy, doesn't isn't that
• 1:06:39
  familiar coming from a white man's mouth.
• 1:06:41
  Not willing to do the work, eh? But like, you know, if, if I had
• 1:06:49
  been doing that like maybe 30 minutes earlier, I probably
• 1:06:53
  would have found a place for it on my list.
• 1:06:55
  So, and then finding out what it's about.
• 1:07:00
  And like you said, I feel like, I feel like it has to be on this
• 1:07:04
  list. So that's, that's my final say.
• 1:07:07
  That's number 10. And you should also note that I
• 1:07:10
  took a song out of the bin, which I, I, when I win, I never
• 1:07:14
  do cause 'cause I hate that shit.
• 1:07:17
  Floored. I am floored.
• 1:07:20
  So boom, there's our 10. Now let's crank up the heat,
• 1:07:24
  shall we? Truth hurts because I love you.
• 1:07:27
  Good as hell. About damn time.
• 1:07:28
  Bloodlines tempo phone still bad girls tea, baby Jenny.
• 1:07:34
  One of those ones has got to be the one.
• 1:07:36
  Which one is it? I, I know Lawrence said Tea baby
• 1:07:40
  is the the one, but I don't think I can say anything other
• 1:07:44
  than truth hurts because it is very quintessential Lizzo.
• 1:07:48
  I mean, I'm sure everybody's already heard it, but it's, it's
• 1:07:52
  her, you know, like just about anything from bangers is
• 1:07:56
  important. It's part of her discography,
• 1:07:58
  but it's it's not who she is now.
• 1:08:02
  And, and it's hard for me to push forward on something that
• 1:08:08
  is, you know, an older song. So I'm I'm leaning truth hurts.
• 1:08:14
  What? Do you think Lauren?
• 1:08:19
  I I agree Truth hurts is, is definitely.
• 1:08:25
  It represents everything that is Liz.
• 1:08:27
  Oh, there's I think, I think musically, I think lyrically, I
• 1:08:31
  think the beat involved, you know, she does a little bit of
• 1:08:35
  her vocal work in it too. So it's not just rap.
• 1:08:39
  Yeah, it's the hit. Yeah.
• 1:08:41
  It's what everybody knows. But Justin, something that
• 1:08:44
  you've kept saying is if you don't like it, I would say give
• 1:08:48
  it another listen. Like, and that's kind of what I
• 1:08:51
  want to ask people who write off Liz.
• 1:08:53
  I was like, why, you know, have you listened to the lyrics of
• 1:08:57
  the song? Have you actually given it a
• 1:08:59
  chance? Have you gotten up and danced to
• 1:09:01
  it? Like I, I feel like she really
• 1:09:04
  has something for everybody. And her music speaks much more
• 1:09:07
  than just surface pop that I think a lot of people have
• 1:09:12
  missed just because maybe they're like, well, I don't like
• 1:09:15
  that kind of music. And I think, like you said,
• 1:09:20
  Justin, like, give it a listen. You know, go with it.
• 1:09:24
  I think truth hurts does I mean, you know, all echo both of you
• 1:09:29
  here. Like it does everything that she
• 1:09:32
  needs to do. But I also think it's like a
• 1:09:34
  great bridge between Lizzo bangers and the rest of the
• 1:09:39
  discography. That song specifically, I feel
• 1:09:41
  like if you like Truth Hurts, you can go back to Bangers and
• 1:09:45
  you'll like it. Like.
• 1:09:46
  But also if you like Truth Hurts, you'll like the rest of
• 1:09:49
  because I love you and you're going to be more willing to
• 1:09:52
  accept kind of what she does with the rest of the rest of her
• 1:09:55
  music. Yeah.
• 1:09:57
  Like, I don't know why I'm saying so much, so many words to
• 1:10:01
  say, yes, I agree. Like I don't need to say
• 1:10:04
  something. I agree.
• 1:10:05
  There we go. Sometimes I get in my own head,
• 1:10:10
  feel like I got to say more words.
• 1:10:11
  All right, so Truth Hurts is going to be our number one here.
• 1:10:14
  Let me get that queued up underneath us.
• 1:10:18
  Truth Hurts is our number one because I love you.
• 1:10:20
  Good as hell. About damn time.
• 1:10:21
  Bloodlines, tempo phone still bad girls and tea baby rounds
• 1:10:26
  out our 10. And with that, let's let Truth
• 1:10:29
  Hurts get a little moment in the sun.
• 1:10:33
  When I'm crying crazy, Yeah, I got boy problems.
• 1:10:35
  That's a human in me bling. Bling then I saw them.
• 1:10:38
  That's the goddess. You could have had a bad bitch.
• 1:10:42
  You could have had a bad bitch love it.
• 1:10:47
  She's just you know, this isn't a word that came up enough.
• 1:10:51
  I feel like fun, like at the heart of it, Lizzo is fun and
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  you can't take that away. Like, yes, there's like deeper.
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  I don't think, and I don't think that there was a more fun
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  breakup song. In like the.
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  Entire history of the world like, you know, we have angry
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  breakup songs, we have sad breakup songs.
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  We have you know, like depressive, you know, suicidal
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  breakup songs, you know, crazy psycho stalker breakup songs.
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  This is the only breakup song that comes to mind that's fun
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  you. Know.
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  And, and, yeah, and and helps you move on.
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  Like, like, you know, like, like, I don't know.
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  Right, right. Yeah.
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  Like, So what, you know, got a new man in my DMS.
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  What, you know, but like, think about things like I Will
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  Survive, you know, like that's such a sad ballad, you know?
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  And, and he or she is, you know, just out there flaunting it, you
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  know? Yeah.
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  Oh, I I would have done it all for you.
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  Oh well, Oh well, guess I'll do it for somebody.
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  Else, yeah, you're a loss her. That dude's loss is our gain,
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  though, Lizzo. I I think it, I think you hear
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  it from all three of us. Like she great man.
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  Like I think I think she's worth your time.
• 1:12:16
  All in all, the discography that we covered was 50 songs.
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  It is if you enjoy any of her work and just haven't kind of
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  done the dive, do the dive. If you're intrigued, listen to
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  our list, start there. And, and I think it's very easy
• 1:12:32
  to branch out with her. I, I, I don't think there's
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  anything unlistenable in her discography.
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  And you know, I got to point it out again, man, fun.
• 1:12:40
  Like I had a lot of fun walking around my neighborhood listening
• 1:12:44
  to Lizzo like it was, it was kind of great.
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  So get on it, man. We are a podcast.
• 1:12:51
  Of course, we did all the work for you here today.
• 1:12:54
  So subscribe. Why not?
• 1:12:56
  That would be pretty cool. I think whatever platform you're
• 1:13:00
  listening to, subscribe, rate comment.
• 1:13:04
  That would be cool on Spotify. You can leave comments now and I
• 1:13:07
  can reply to you. Wow technology.
• 1:13:11
  But if you're going to do that, please leave five stars.
• 1:13:13
  It does help us get seen in the algorithm.
• 1:13:15
  Would appreciate that same thing for Apple Podcasts.
• 1:13:17
  Leave, leave a review and if you're going to do that, please
• 1:13:21
  make it a five star review. Just again, it helps us get seen
• 1:13:26
  and that's how we get bigger. Patreon.com/oh hi, Justin's a
• 1:13:30
  great place to go if you would like to help monetarily.
• 1:13:34
  Cost you a dollar a month to get in the door, but it gets you
• 1:13:37
  deprogrammed before the rest of the world.
• 1:13:38
  It gets you the after the fact conversation that we are about
• 1:13:41
  to have. And it also gets you access to
• 1:13:45
  certain channels on our discord because well I guess depends on
• 1:13:50
  what what level you do. If you do the $1.00 level, it
• 1:13:52
  just gets you access to our discord.
• 1:13:54
  It gets an gets you an automatic role.
• 1:13:57
  So come on over hang out in the discord.
• 1:13:59
  It's good times. The legion of stupid discord.
• 1:14:01
  We're growing a tree, which is great.
• 1:14:04
  We are counting, which is great. There are jacks Jack box night.
• 1:14:08
  The New Jersey Devils are out of the playoffs.
• 1:14:10
  So like I might actually be able to do chat box nights again.
• 1:14:15
  That would be fun. I haven't done that in months
• 1:14:18
  because hockey has ruled my life, but more on that later.
• 1:14:23
  But yeah, come hang out in the discord.
• 1:14:24
  It's fun. It's it's again, what are we
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  doing? Just don't be a Dick.
• 1:14:28
  That's really, that's really all it is, is come in, don't be a
• 1:14:31
  Dick. Good, good times will be had.
• 1:14:35
  You know, if you are looking for another way to help, telling
• 1:14:39
  somebody that you listen to the show is actually probably the
• 1:14:41
  absolute best way you can do it. Hey, I listen to you
• 1:14:44
  deprogrammed and you should too, you know.
• 1:14:48
  Yeah, I I think that's where like, you can come on the show.
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  But we'll talk about that if you join the Discord, Lizzo.
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  Learn them and love them people. We'll see you next week.