Latest / Scam Goddess / The Old Money Tree Murders w/ Frankie Quiñones
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Scal Come Rob, run scam come.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Rob.
- 0:15Speaker 3: That's froll scam godess.
- 0:19Speaker 1: What Popping Congregation is to girl.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Lacy mostly aka scam Got is back with you and
- 0:24Speaker 2: the podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practices.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them.
- 0:30Speaker 2: But what was guaranteed is that we will laugh at them,
- 0:32Speaker 2: but never the victims, because it is still a comedy podcast.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Congregation, go ahead and stand up.
- 0:38Speaker 3: We have we have.
- 0:39Speaker 2: A member of the congregation returning to service on high holiday. Okay,
- 0:44Speaker 2: you know that's when people like to come back as
- 0:45Speaker 2: when it's time to worship, and you know, and then
- 0:47Speaker 2: the church is very crowded and we got overflow.
- 0:50Speaker 1: But I love I love a bedside scammer. Yes.
- 0:53Speaker 2: So you know him from his role as Creeper in
- 0:57Speaker 2: the Soolo Fitz Sketch comedy web series and from his
- 1:00Speaker 2: lead role in Hulu's This Fool, which.
- 1:04Speaker 1: Such an amazing comedy show.
- 1:05Speaker 2: You've heard his voice as Maria Arrisa on the Cartoon
- 1:08Speaker 2: Network series Victor and Valentino. You've also seen him in
- 1:12Speaker 2: Saint Dennis Medical, which is so funny, What we Do
- 1:15Speaker 2: in the Shadows, and his latest project Plant Man, and
- 1:18Speaker 2: Blondie a dress up gang film. Yes, congregation, please stand up.
- 1:23Speaker 2: I know it's hard to clap right now because the
- 1:26Speaker 2: church is full, but y'all get up, and y'all clap
- 1:28Speaker 2: and welcome back to this amazing, funny fool Frankie, can you.
- 1:32Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up? What's up? Lady? Thanks for having me back.
- 1:36Speaker 3: What's up? Fool?
- 1:37Speaker 2: I think it's very funny that the first first roll
- 1:40Speaker 2: was creeper.
- 1:41Speaker 3: I was like this, fool.
- 1:45Speaker 1: No, it's so good to see you again.
- 1:47Speaker 3: Yeah, good to see and the ogie listeners.
- 1:48Speaker 2: If y'all remember, you'll remember during the pandemic, me and
- 1:51Speaker 2: Frankie did a very fun episode about his scams and schemes.
- 1:54Speaker 1: You can go back and listen to that.
- 1:56Speaker 4: Yes, I know it's all coming back to me now. No,
- 1:59Speaker 4: we're sitting here right.
- 2:00Speaker 1: It was wild, but it was fun. Now, Franky, you know,
- 2:04Speaker 1: we took this a little different these days.
- 2:06Speaker 2: And I want to get your expert opinion on a
- 2:09Speaker 2: few things.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So this segment is called is it a scam? Is
- 2:13Speaker 1: it a scheme?
- 2:14Speaker 2: Or is it a real thing? So these are just
- 2:17Speaker 2: your opinions that are no wrong answer. Yes. So the
- 2:21Speaker 2: first one I have for you is it a scam
- 2:23Speaker 2: of that the scheme? Is it a real thing? Uber
- 2:26Speaker 2: Priority deliveries like Uber eats Priority delivery, or like Post
- 2:31Speaker 2: Makes Priority delivery, any any like dating?
- 2:34Speaker 1: Honestly, I am dating food apps.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I'm on we have a better relationship than anybody else.
- 2:41Speaker 2: But like, so on any food delivery app, do you
- 2:43Speaker 2: think like hitting that extra two ninety nine whatever for
- 2:48Speaker 2: priority delivery, do you think that's a scam, a scheme
- 2:50Speaker 2: or real thing I did.
- 2:51Speaker 4: It's a it's a scheme, but well, the thing is,
- 2:55Speaker 4: I'll gamble that sometimes I won't pay for priority, and
- 2:57Speaker 4: then they will make other stops and I'm like, damn,
- 3:00Speaker 4: you know, but it's like a gamble, you know, for me,
- 3:03Speaker 4: But then you know, when I pay it, they always
- 3:04Speaker 4: do come right to me.
- 3:05Speaker 3: So I don't know, I don't know.
- 3:08Speaker 4: I do feel like I'm getting scammed, but then it's
- 3:10Speaker 4: like I don't want cold, you know food either, so
- 3:12Speaker 4: it's like.
- 3:13Speaker 2: Right, but also like that should be a part of it,
- 3:16Speaker 2: no matter what, Like you used to order food directly
- 3:19Speaker 2: from the place that made the food, and they weren't
- 3:21Speaker 2: like now.
- 3:22Speaker 1: Do you want us to drop it off hot or cold?
- 3:25Speaker 3: Obviously?
- 3:26Speaker 1: Well, I gotta pay for things that should that used
- 3:28Speaker 1: to just be a thing.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah right, it was already like that before, So
- 3:31Speaker 4: I don't know. Sometimes and if the spot is closed,
- 3:34Speaker 4: I'll get really pissed off. Though sometimes the spot's close
- 3:36Speaker 4: to my path, and then I'll be like, well, I'm
- 3:38Speaker 4: not going to pay for party because obviously they're gonna
- 3:40Speaker 4: come here first, and then they don't if I don't
- 3:42Speaker 4: pay for party, like nah, let's send them over.
- 3:44Speaker 3: Here for the priority reund world. And I'm like and
- 3:51Speaker 3: I'll be like, I'm says, I'll watch it. The little hobief,
- 3:53Speaker 3: the you know, Yeah, I'm like, oh no, he's going there.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Huh Okay.
- 3:58Speaker 2: I look at the time, so you know the way
- 4:01Speaker 2: that your ey your brain is working. It is fascinating
- 4:04Speaker 2: to me because I'm like, okay, if it's supposed to
- 4:06Speaker 2: come at this time, if I pay for priority, the
- 4:08Speaker 2: time window is like what three minutes fast or five
- 4:10Speaker 2: minutes faster, I'm like, oh fuck that they're gonna come
- 4:12Speaker 2: at this time.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Anyway. I never thought like to look at the app.
- 4:16Speaker 2: Like I was following that. I thought, like me, I'd
- 4:19Speaker 2: be like, they better not be making no stop. It's
- 4:22Speaker 2: a left at my house.
- 4:25Speaker 4: Hell you're going to I know, I spend so much
- 4:27Speaker 4: time like stocking that port of the Hoby Driver or whatever.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Then you want one on one.
- 4:31Speaker 1: I don't need to be on the one on one.
- 4:33Speaker 3: I'm like, I could have just picked it up myself
- 4:35Speaker 3: the time I've investigating.
- 4:36Speaker 1: Right that way, Sometimes when you in the house, you
- 4:39Speaker 1: be in the house.
- 4:40Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I don't know that other.
- 4:42Speaker 2: People, but like when I get in the house, it's
- 4:43Speaker 2: a certain amount of things that I do. If the
- 4:45Speaker 2: shoes are off, the the fit is off, the makeup
- 4:47Speaker 2: of whatever, it is, like, I'm not going outside.
- 4:49Speaker 3: I'm just like I don't want to deal with the parking,
- 4:51Speaker 3: this and that.
- 4:52Speaker 4: Just yeah, yeah, just bring it to me on me.
- 4:53Speaker 4: But I'm gonna stock you on that on the app.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yeah, I never thought about that. Maybe that's a good
- 4:57Speaker 2: livements test. I okay, William Neeson. So I got a
- 5:05Speaker 2: special set of skills where I do know. It's my
- 5:08Speaker 2: burrial bul dropped off.
- 5:09Speaker 3: Hers for service. I will find you.
- 5:13Speaker 1: I'm finding you as my priority.
- 5:15Speaker 2: You thought it was just priority for me, It's priority
- 5:17Speaker 2: for you too, because looking at you is my priority.
- 5:21Speaker 2: I'm gonna know where you at I never thought about
- 5:24Speaker 2: it like that. No, I just look at the time.
- 5:26Speaker 2: That's why I say it's a scheme too, because the
- 5:29Speaker 2: people that I know who've worked for Uber and different
- 5:31Speaker 2: little details I've done, they were like sometimes like especially
- 5:35Speaker 2: depending on how much you order, like that that priority service,
- 5:38Speaker 2: like they're like hoping you hit that button for extra coin,
- 5:40Speaker 2: but she was gonna get it the same time.
- 5:41Speaker 4: Yeah, does a driver get because you know, back in
- 5:44Speaker 4: the day, I did like door dashing, So I'm really like,
- 5:47Speaker 4: you know, I always try to tip well and stuff
- 5:48Speaker 4: like that.
- 5:49Speaker 3: I remember when I was on.
- 5:49Speaker 4: My grind when people wouldn't tip or that you're you know,
- 5:53Speaker 4: you're like banking on that.
- 5:54Speaker 3: I want me to have like a good day.
- 5:55Speaker 2: But but yeah, yeah, tip too because like, well I
- 5:59Speaker 2: tip period.
- 5:59Speaker 1: I was, but I try to leave a.
- 6:01Speaker 2: Good tip because I need you to get in the
- 6:02Speaker 2: elevator that's unlocked and come to my door. So I'm
- 6:07Speaker 2: paying for that extra time because but if you flee
- 6:10Speaker 2: it outside, we got an issue.
- 6:12Speaker 4: I live upstairs too, and if they don't bring it
- 6:14Speaker 4: to the top of the stairs, it's like, oh, come
- 6:15Speaker 4: on home.
- 6:15Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Like yeah, and in this economy,
- 6:19Speaker 1: I'm not to take away people tips like don't piss
- 6:22Speaker 1: me off.
- 6:24Speaker 4: The drivers get a piece of the priority feel though, No,
- 6:27Speaker 4: see that's what I'm like.
- 6:29Speaker 2: No, you know they barely getting a piece of they wage.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Doors had that settlement. I worked for DoorDash for one
- 6:34Speaker 2: day and I did get ten dollars from the settlement.
- 6:38Speaker 3: Congratulation my wages.
- 6:40Speaker 2: I did one taco bell delivery and I said, this
- 6:42Speaker 2: is you got. Look, this is not for me. And
- 6:46Speaker 2: I should have know because at the time, like it
- 6:47Speaker 2: was very much giving scam energy. Because my sign up
- 6:50Speaker 2: for DoorDash to do a drive like be a driver,
- 6:52Speaker 2: I just need to la And I was like in
- 6:55Speaker 2: my early twenties, and I went to the door Dash
- 6:58Speaker 2: sign up and it was at this address and I'm like, okay,
- 7:00Speaker 2: this must be their headquarters or whatever. While we get there,
- 7:02Speaker 2: it's like an emptied out storefront. They got one table.
- 7:07Speaker 2: It definitely looked like it was from Walmart. It was
- 7:09Speaker 2: like you know the picnic or like that, you know
- 7:11Speaker 2: when you're having a playoff, you know, when you having
- 7:15Speaker 2: a birthday party for a niece with the family outside
- 7:18Speaker 2: at a public park and then y'all go get a
- 7:20Speaker 2: table and it's that plastic table the metal frames that
- 7:23Speaker 2: you could fold up a side back and oh yeah, yeah,
- 7:25Speaker 2: that's what they had. No no tablecloth or nothing, no
- 7:28Speaker 2: door dash emblem. They had food warming bags on the table.
- 7:31Speaker 2: And then you sat in a room and they had
- 7:33Speaker 2: like a projector screen like you know the ones you
- 7:35Speaker 2: can get on the internet, and they projected it onto
- 7:37Speaker 2: a white wall to like give us the spiel. And
- 7:40Speaker 2: then they gave us a door dash card and the
- 7:41Speaker 2: door dash bag and send us on our way.
- 7:44Speaker 5: Wow.
- 7:44Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember, man.
- 7:46Speaker 4: I was grateful that that came out because I kept
- 7:48Speaker 4: getting fired from my restaurant jobs because I kept they.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Have to do a door dash.
- 7:53Speaker 3: Yeah, because and then I was able to door dash.
- 7:56Speaker 3: You know, you make your own schedule idea, get fired.
- 7:58Speaker 4: But right because I had to go I had like
- 8:00Speaker 4: a previous like duy and all this I had to
- 8:03Speaker 4: go to like pay to get it expunge just so
- 8:05Speaker 4: I could do door dash.
- 8:06Speaker 1: It.
- 8:07Speaker 2: So we both agree, it's it's a bit of a scheme.
- 8:10Speaker 2: So next one scam scheme or real thing. Uh, the
- 8:14Speaker 2: environmentalists might get on you for this one, but paper straws. Oh,
- 8:21Speaker 2: it's so stressful. I know, and it's never been abound
- 8:24Speaker 2: for so long and they still stress me.
- 8:25Speaker 1: What do you think?
- 8:26Speaker 4: Yeah, because man, you know I get it. The well,
- 8:29Speaker 4: you know, they have the vegetable oil straws. I think
- 8:32Speaker 4: that's what in and out uses.
- 8:33Speaker 1: Oh, those are brown ones.
- 8:34Speaker 4: They're well they're like normal plastic straws, but they're made out.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Of like but but if you d them, they crack.
- 8:41Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but but the paper ones they don't.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Yeah, they get limp in your mouth, they get soggy quick,
- 8:47Speaker 2: and it's like you don't want to be sucking on
- 8:50Speaker 2: that soggy little stick.
- 8:52Speaker 3: It feels a little nasty.
- 8:53Speaker 1: But but I'm like, are we really doing but is.
- 8:55Speaker 3: It really doing anything? Yeah? Exactly.
- 8:57Speaker 2: I just think about how billionaires are destroying the planet
- 9:00Speaker 2: and now we have so many new wars. I feel
- 9:02Speaker 2: like it's my paper straw combating drawn strikes.
- 9:05Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly.
- 9:07Speaker 4: I think somebody, the paper straw homie made a deal
- 9:10Speaker 4: with some politicians and was like, no, here's how we're
- 9:12Speaker 4: gonna do this, and then we're gonna make some money
- 9:13Speaker 4: on some paper straws.
- 9:18Speaker 3: Now.
- 9:18Speaker 2: I just imagine the paper straw lobby shows up like
- 9:20Speaker 2: bro man to Capitol Hills, like open the code and
- 9:23Speaker 2: there's so many Like y'all get one of these paper draws. Okay,
- 9:26Speaker 2: they cheaper, we make people feel bad, We get them
- 9:28Speaker 2: in restaurants, get them everywhere.
- 9:30Speaker 3: We're gonna make bank.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly, maybe we just need to make straws like chapstick.
- 9:36Speaker 2: You get one in your car, you got one at home,
- 9:39Speaker 2: and like like a metal straw, you got one in
- 9:41Speaker 2: your car, you got one at home, and you gotta
- 9:43Speaker 2: travel one on the keychain and then you pop that
- 9:46Speaker 2: out for the restaurants.
- 9:47Speaker 1: Maybe that's the real way to save the planet.
- 9:49Speaker 2: But I just, I really just think paper straws are
- 9:52Speaker 2: I think they're I'm gonna.
- 9:53Speaker 1: Say scheme because like I don't I want to help
- 9:55Speaker 1: the planet.
- 9:56Speaker 2: But you know, there was that one turtle that had
- 9:58Speaker 2: a straw in that snose and we've been paying for them,
- 10:00Speaker 2: bitch ever since.
- 10:02Speaker 3: I don't want to look.
- 10:05Speaker 2: So this is the straw that you were talking about,
- 10:07Speaker 2: the biodegradable, like I know it was brown.
- 10:10Speaker 3: Yeah oh no, yeah, but it's hard though, right, Yeah.
- 10:13Speaker 1: So these are the hard ones.
- 10:14Speaker 2: So the.
- 10:16Speaker 6: Boba straw, Okay, they just don't look appetizing, like I
- 10:19Speaker 6: don't want to drink of orange Fanta out of this.
- 10:22Speaker 1: Yeah, personally, just I don't want to eat the straw.
- 10:25Speaker 1: I don't even want to put it in my drink.
- 10:27Speaker 3: You're so specific with the orange Fanta like drink. It's
- 10:35Speaker 3: like this.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Is a relaxation activity. When I get home to me.
- 10:39Speaker 2: What yes, Okay, you know I'm gonna I'm gonna say
- 10:47Speaker 2: scheme on Capitol Hill, but we'll say, I guess, scam,
- 10:51Speaker 2: scheme or real thing? Last one here paying vi P
- 10:56Speaker 2: for dating apps? So like, you know you can do
- 10:58Speaker 2: use a dating app for free, but paying VIP for
- 11:01Speaker 2: premium dating apps?
- 11:02Speaker 1: Do you think that's a scam of scheme or a
- 11:04Speaker 1: real thing?
- 11:05Speaker 3: Ah, man, I don't know. I've been you know, I've
- 11:08Speaker 3: been involved in that.
- 11:10Speaker 1: You see it like it's crime.
- 11:14Speaker 3: It doesn't. It didn't work out for me.
- 11:15Speaker 4: I'm like it just to feel like a waste of time.
- 11:17Speaker 4: But like just to get more swipes.
- 11:19Speaker 3: You beat off thirsty like I'm lonely right now home here.
- 11:22Speaker 3: I need more swipes.
- 11:23Speaker 4: I need so, I mean, you do get more swipes, but.
- 11:28Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's a scheme.
- 11:30Speaker 1: I think it's a scheme too.
- 11:31Speaker 2: Almost in the way of like Uber where it used
- 11:34Speaker 2: to just be like or ordering your food and they
- 11:36Speaker 2: bring you your food. Then they realize out of fee
- 11:39Speaker 2: by being like, well, we could bring you your food directly.
- 11:43Speaker 2: Oh you can wait till it gets cold, you raggedy bit.
- 11:47Speaker 2: And now they're like, oh, we could show you everybody
- 11:50Speaker 2: on the dating app right now, but we're not gonna
- 11:53Speaker 2: do that no more.
- 11:54Speaker 1: We'll show you six uggos.
- 11:55Speaker 2: If you want to see everybody, give you better, you
- 12:00Speaker 2: better give us this VIPC.
- 12:01Speaker 1: You horny, lonely bitch.
- 12:03Speaker 3: Like we know you're lonely because you're all.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Here scrolling with's eleven pm.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Who you think you're gonna meet on eleven pm on
- 12:09Speaker 2: Thursday with your lonely.
- 12:10Speaker 3: Yeah, you need more swipes. I think it's a bit
- 12:16Speaker 3: of a scheme for sure. And I was a sucker
- 12:19Speaker 3: to that, like you're right, and do need more swipe right?
- 12:22Speaker 1: Listen, I've done it too.
- 12:23Speaker 2: I was like, maybe if you do the premium you need,
- 12:25Speaker 2: Like this is like having a match maker, but it's cheaper.
- 12:28Speaker 4: I could swipe right on the one tonight if I
- 12:30Speaker 4: just pay this fee.
- 12:32Speaker 2: And the algorithm's like, this is somebody we think you
- 12:34Speaker 2: might like, and then I looking at.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Like, I'm like, why do I think I like this?
- 12:40Speaker 6: Bro?
- 12:44Speaker 1: And the hopping section is said the dark that stay
- 12:48Speaker 1: hoppy is the dark? What does that mean? What does
- 12:51Speaker 1: that mean?
- 12:52Speaker 3: Dark? This is your perfect match? I don't think so.
- 12:57Speaker 1: I guess I guess you know.
- 12:59Speaker 2: It's nighttime everywhere for everybody. At some point, like they're like,
- 13:03Speaker 2: low's your standards, Like, we got one for you.
- 13:07Speaker 3: They are breathing, they walk, they breathe.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Do you want to go to coffee with breathe or not?
- 13:12Speaker 2: You have thirty seconds?
- 13:14Speaker 3: Coffee with breathing. Breathing is a hot common It's available
- 13:17Speaker 3: on Thursday. What you got?
- 13:20Speaker 6: Y'all think they have like an algorithm for you know,
- 13:25Speaker 6: because you you input all your information right and your
- 13:27Speaker 6: hobbies and stuff. Do you guys think that those apps
- 13:30Speaker 6: have an algorithm.
- 13:31Speaker 7: For like bad dudes, like guys that are clearly red
- 13:34Speaker 7: flags that they're like, here are the free free dudes
- 13:37Speaker 7: that you can swipe on and then pay us and
- 13:39Speaker 7: we'll give you all the green flag dudes.
- 13:42Speaker 3: Yeah, whoa. I never thought about it, but that.
- 13:46Speaker 1: Like VIP could be paying for more quality.
- 13:51Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like that'd be a lot of vetting.
- 13:53Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, because if you think about it,
- 13:55Speaker 2: like on dating apps, you know you're gonna see some
- 13:57Speaker 2: things for certain people talk about pineapple and pizza, people
- 14:00Speaker 2: talking about tacos, people with photos of them fishing. You
- 14:04Speaker 2: know you gotta get photos like I'm so sorry. Like
- 14:07Speaker 2: please take this as a scam tip out there. If
- 14:09Speaker 2: you are on a dating app, the first main profile picture,
- 14:12Speaker 2: no matter who you are, no matter what you look like,
- 14:13Speaker 2: should not be a group photo because what that tells
- 14:15Speaker 2: me about you is that you don't feel confident. And also,
- 14:18Speaker 2: who are you exactly not.
- 14:22Speaker 1: The fine one? If it's a fine one in there,
- 14:24Speaker 1: you're not the fine one. Why are you trying to
- 14:25Speaker 1: scam me.
- 14:25Speaker 2: Being fine adjacent you at a wedding?
- 14:27Speaker 1: It's it's six mofuckers in this photo.
- 14:30Speaker 3: I know.
- 14:30Speaker 1: No, No, I want to go ahead of haring you
- 14:32Speaker 1: because if it was, you would have crapped them out.
- 14:34Speaker 3: I'm fining adjacent true, Like what you're.
- 14:38Speaker 2: Telling me, I can hang out with you when they
- 14:40Speaker 2: pat your friends and they making me meet my soul
- 14:42Speaker 2: mad because we can talk like I do.
- 14:45Speaker 4: I know, I get annoyed when the first picture of
- 14:46Speaker 4: the group picture I'm just I always just swipe.
- 14:48Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, oh my, come.
- 14:49Speaker 1: On, what are you trying to do?
- 14:51Speaker 3: Which one is?
- 14:52Speaker 1: Or also there's a lot of men.
- 14:54Speaker 2: I think it's specifically men who were attractive in the
- 14:57Speaker 2: wild and y'all just got batter lighting, bad camera angles,
- 15:02Speaker 2: And honestly, I kind of love that a little bit
- 15:03Speaker 2: because I'm like, okay, like, you know, but just maybe
- 15:05Speaker 2: just post pictures that other people take of you, because
- 15:09Speaker 2: giving me like murderer, you know.
- 15:11Speaker 3: Yeah, I always have.
- 15:13Speaker 4: I have a homegirl like check my ship out, you know,
- 15:15Speaker 4: and they have been like, no, what are you doing?
- 15:17Speaker 3: Why this one?
- 15:17Speaker 8: You know?
- 15:18Speaker 3: And I don't know.
- 15:19Speaker 1: You see, And that's what a smart straight man does.
- 15:23Speaker 2: Because they know the angles. They know like they got everything.
- 15:27Speaker 2: But like the straight man be.
- 15:28Speaker 1: Like, here's me with a fish and we're like, we don't, like, please.
- 15:35Speaker 3: Seventeen pounds bass right here? Check this out?
- 15:37Speaker 2: Me?
- 15:37Speaker 3: Huh?
- 15:42Speaker 1: Ask me like that?
- 15:44Speaker 2: Come on?
- 15:46Speaker 4: I put my profile day what I was funky franky
- 15:48Speaker 4: about home girls like what are you doing?
- 15:49Speaker 3: What am I funky?
- 15:51Speaker 4: Because you don't like yeah, like you gotta like and
- 15:54Speaker 4: I'm like, oh ship, I didn't even think about that,
- 15:56Speaker 4: and She's like, yeah, no, not game girl, gonna like
- 15:59Speaker 4: that like funky Franks you smelled, And I was like, damn,
- 16:01Speaker 4: I didn't even trip off that, but yes, I'm glad
- 16:03Speaker 4: that ran by her.
- 16:04Speaker 2: And also, man, please take off those photos of you
- 16:07Speaker 2: posing with a celebrity doing this.
- 16:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we knew you don't know them.
- 16:14Speaker 1: This finger says this is a stranger, right.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Think about how many times you taking a photo with
- 16:19Speaker 2: a friend and been like, no, you stranger babes?
- 16:25Speaker 4: Like, dude, my homegirls sent me a screenshot she was
- 16:29Speaker 4: on a dating app and the dude had me and
- 16:31Speaker 4: him in front of the comedy start. It is one
- 16:33Speaker 4: of his his profile pictures or like his pictures, but
- 16:36Speaker 4: it looked She was like, do you know him? Because
- 16:37Speaker 4: it looked like he made it look like hey, we're homies.
- 16:39Speaker 1: See, that's how you do it. If you don't do it,
- 16:44Speaker 1: that's how you can do it.
- 16:45Speaker 3: You lean.
- 16:46Speaker 1: You don't got to touch the person of disrespecting space, but.
- 16:48Speaker 2: Just leaning a little bit and you kind of just
- 16:50Speaker 2: like even be talking a little bit during it.
- 16:52Speaker 4: Like yeah, remember that one time, remember that fish we
- 16:57Speaker 4: caught her mamo.
- 16:59Speaker 2: That's how you do it. The second you start polm
- 17:01Speaker 2: and we're like, you know, we know you don't know that.
- 17:04Speaker 2: Put the finger up, put it away. That's our scam
- 17:10Speaker 2: tips for y'all. Okay, breaking these were great. I love
- 17:13Speaker 2: your opinions on all of these. I think I think
- 17:15Speaker 2: you've got some. You're giving the people hope.
- 17:17Speaker 3: I hope so scares.
- 17:22Speaker 1: Ah.
- 17:24Speaker 2: And now we're going to get into my favorite part
- 17:26Speaker 2: of this show, historic hoodwinks. This is where I'm going
- 17:29Speaker 2: to regale Frankie with the famous con caper. Maybe it's
- 17:31Speaker 2: a group of Maybe it's a group of criminals. Maybe
- 17:37Speaker 2: we love them, maybe we hate them.
- 17:38Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 17:38Speaker 2: Maybe it's a couple we'll see along the way. Oh
- 17:41Speaker 2: look it's a wealthy couple and they're from.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Maine, which.
- 17:49Speaker 2: Not the Booby And that was a judgment mental home.
- 17:54Speaker 2: How did you get into this country club? I want
- 17:56Speaker 2: work in. H make a lot of way. Oh we're
- 18:01Speaker 2: letting an age.
- 18:04Speaker 1: Yes they make a lot of way.
- 18:05Speaker 2: But anyways, we had a wealthy couple in Maine and
- 18:08Speaker 2: they poisoned an ll Bean heiress's trees to give their
- 18:13Speaker 2: house a better water front view, and it's tearing the
- 18:17Speaker 2: community apart.
- 18:19Speaker 1: So look, these are the trees.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Now look at the trees that are erect, the trees.
- 18:28Speaker 4: That are erect, right, Yeah, there's a handful of erect
- 18:31Speaker 4: trees there.
- 18:32Speaker 1: Now, just are we looking at pre poison? No, this
- 18:35Speaker 1: is post poison.
- 18:36Speaker 3: These ones in the middle.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Now look at the trees that. Yeah, so you see
- 18:40Speaker 1: the ones.
- 18:41Speaker 4: That Okay, So this is the ll bean homie right
- 18:43Speaker 4: up front. Okay, and then there's the house in the back.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Okay, So the ll Bean house in the front.
- 18:49Speaker 2: You see how they got their foliage all low in
- 18:52Speaker 2: the front, they got a cute little bush so they
- 18:54Speaker 2: can have a cute little view. And when you get
- 18:57Speaker 2: to a certain like elevation, rich like stupid things like
- 19:01Speaker 2: this have to become your priority because you don't worry
- 19:03Speaker 2: about bills or things that would fulfill you as a
- 19:05Speaker 2: human being, like hobbies. So they start buying airspace so
- 19:08Speaker 2: you can't build too high. They also which is like
- 19:11Speaker 2: how you own the air bach like we've let which
- 19:12Speaker 2: people get away with too much.
- 19:13Speaker 1: You can't own air And also they.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Start buying like building rights, so you can't build above
- 19:18Speaker 2: a certain amount because it decreases the property value of
- 19:21Speaker 2: the things that you're building over.
- 19:22Speaker 1: Because you're obstructing their views. So the LLB house, they.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Said, views for us, no views for y'all because in
- 19:28Speaker 2: the front you see how their trees are like erect
- 19:30Speaker 2: on the sides. But then they got like many bush
- 19:33Speaker 2: mays happening in the front, so the view is cute
- 19:35Speaker 2: in the back of our house where you see them.
- 19:37Speaker 2: So you see these luscious trees in the and then
- 19:39Speaker 2: the right in the middle is some burnt ass, skinny ass,
- 19:42Speaker 2: fucking dead ass branch ass trees that are clearly tall
- 19:46Speaker 2: as hill.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Those trees are in the lob in people's backyard.
- 19:50Speaker 2: So this wealthy couple decided we want a better waterfront view.
- 19:55Speaker 1: And since we can't cut your trees, what.
- 19:58Speaker 3: Gold of murder them? Rich people are crazy.
- 20:02Speaker 1: But honestly, this is my type of rich people activity, Like.
- 20:09Speaker 3: Let me your voice.
- 20:10Speaker 2: Honestly though you're you're you're not how bothering nobody but
- 20:15Speaker 2: other rich people who are hoarding resources, Like this is
- 20:20Speaker 2: rich people crime is beautiful. More of this, stop bothering us,
- 20:25Speaker 2: you know, like fight amongst yourselves. Because now rich people
- 20:29Speaker 2: want to be seen so badly, and that's very strange
- 20:31Speaker 2: to me, Like it used to be that rich people
- 20:33Speaker 2: circled around other rich people. They had their circles, they
- 20:35Speaker 2: wore their clothes, and they followed their own loser asterns
- 20:39Speaker 2: and they never bothered us. But then with social media,
- 20:41Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they not only do I need
- 20:44Speaker 2: to be rich, I need you to see me being
- 20:45Speaker 2: rich and I need to see me. And it's like no,
- 20:49Speaker 2: It's like no, we don't need to know. Like if
- 20:51Speaker 2: are you rich in a forest?
- 20:53Speaker 1: If if you.
- 20:56Speaker 2: Didn't burn it down to destroy the planet, no one
- 20:59Speaker 2: can see you burned down a forest to destroy the planet.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Did you even do it?
- 21:05Speaker 9: Like wild?
- 21:06Speaker 1: What you didn't?
- 21:08Speaker 2: So the tree Killers are a politically connected couple who
- 21:13Speaker 2: aren't actually from New England. There they summer in Maine,
- 21:19Speaker 2: but they live in Brooklyn most of the time, so
- 21:23Speaker 2: they're not even from the society. I think that's why
- 21:25Speaker 2: the girls got their painties, because you.
- 21:27Speaker 1: Just summer in here, which means you're an outsider.
- 21:29Speaker 2: Okay, you're not here for the spring Petunia Bowl, you're
- 21:33Speaker 2: not here for the Fall festival. You're not getting involved
- 21:36Speaker 2: with bitchy rich people made politics year round, right right,
- 21:40Speaker 2: And so Amelia Bond used to be an investment banker
- 21:45Speaker 2: and then She became the head of the Saint Louis
- 21:47Speaker 2: Community Foundation, a nonprofit for wealthy charitable investors in Missouri,
- 21:52Speaker 2: for twelve years, and then she retired during the tree drama.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Now this is her, and wait, she's a tree murderer.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Oh okay, yes, So she used to be like working,
- 22:10Speaker 2: you know, as an investment banker.
- 22:11Speaker 1: So she probably was, you know, Wolf of Wall Street
- 22:14Speaker 1: in there.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I mean, judging by their ages, they definitely had, you know,
- 22:19Speaker 2: something to do with the two thousand and eight financial crisis.
- 22:21Speaker 2: Probably got real rich. It's giving the nose is giving bangs.
- 22:26Speaker 2: Back in the day, you don't even know. I did
- 22:27Speaker 2: so much cocaine and I was that girl.
- 22:30Speaker 1: She definitely had.
- 22:31Speaker 2: A plug because you know, she looks like like now,
- 22:33Speaker 2: she looks like an older, like distinguished scarf lady. But
- 22:37Speaker 2: something about that gold chain and their mearrings and those
- 22:40Speaker 2: bright blue eyes and even her smile is given. Like
- 22:43Speaker 2: back in the day, her hair was longer and everybody
- 22:45Speaker 2: knew she had a bag of that good white white.
- 22:48Speaker 2: On the stock market, she kept everybody up from Dow
- 22:51Speaker 2: Clothes to Dow Open.
- 22:55Speaker 1: They was doing financial crimes. And so then she did enough.
- 22:59Speaker 2: Crime that she she was like, Okay, I'm rich enough
- 23:03Speaker 2: that I'm just gonna do a non profit so I
- 23:04Speaker 2: could keep laundering money in Missouri. Mind you, she was
- 23:09Speaker 2: doing crime in Wall Street. And then she was like,
- 23:11Speaker 2: let me go to Missouri with this money and.
- 23:14Speaker 4: Start this nonprofit. And she switched from cocaine to pills.
- 23:17Speaker 4: You can see in her eyes.
- 23:18Speaker 3: Look, yeah you can.
- 23:20Speaker 2: She was like, I need to slow down. She was like,
- 23:24Speaker 2: I can't do drugs like I used to. It's really
- 23:28Speaker 2: in the eye. But honestly, she's such a good Like
- 23:31Speaker 2: she took her Missouri wardrobe and brought it back to
- 23:34Speaker 2: Maine because her whole attire is given.
- 23:37Speaker 1: She blended in in Missouri.
- 23:39Speaker 2: That starf but that but that chain is giving me
- 23:42Speaker 2: New York City, baby, that chain is giving me Like
- 23:43Speaker 2: she would put that on when she had to go
- 23:45Speaker 2: uptown to get to get the stash for everybody.
- 23:47Speaker 3: Like she she.
- 23:48Speaker 1: Knows things her eyes the pools of secrets.
- 23:53Speaker 2: So her husband, Author Bond the third she married a
- 23:57Speaker 2: third It's an architect and the nephew of Christopher kit Bond,
- 24:03Speaker 2: the former longtime Republican Senator of Missouri.
- 24:07Speaker 1: I wonder she did her charity in Missouri because she
- 24:10Speaker 1: could go to Missouri and she.
- 24:11Speaker 2: Would get all the board charity alights, you know, helping
- 24:15Speaker 2: her man. Also, anybody who is named Christopher and they
- 24:19Speaker 2: go by Kits, we know it's up.
- 24:21Speaker 1: We watched, we watched industry babes.
- 24:24Speaker 3: We know Kits.
- 24:30Speaker 2: Look at his hair though he should have been in
- 24:32Speaker 2: politics because the hair is given Kits. I'm kind of
- 24:36Speaker 2: into the vibe. He leaned into the lore.
- 24:40Speaker 1: And like whatever moose he was putting in that like
- 24:42Speaker 1: whatever he did.
- 24:43Speaker 3: Yep, the three piece suit too.
- 24:45Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and in Massura, but in Maszura, so Kit
- 24:50Speaker 2: is what's popping right. And and remember Kit is the
- 24:53Speaker 2: uncle of Arthur Bond who is married to Amelia Bond
- 24:57Speaker 2: our Baddy. You know it's a good time goal. So
- 25:01Speaker 2: before Kit died and this is a prominent uncle with
- 25:04Speaker 2: the great hair. In two thousand and five when he passed,
- 25:07Speaker 2: he had an exceptionally low rating from the environmental watchdog
- 25:12Speaker 2: group at the watchdogs on your ass Republicans for environmental protection.
- 25:17Speaker 2: That was when we know Republicans ain't never been for
- 25:19Speaker 2: no environmental protection.
- 25:20Speaker 1: So if they give you a low rating, what are.
- 25:22Speaker 3: You up to?
- 25:24Speaker 2: Something over when Republicans for Environmental Protection are like, wait
- 25:28Speaker 2: a minute, it seems like you must be pretty shady
- 25:34Speaker 2: by guy, because they don't really step up. So this
- 25:37Speaker 2: was all due to Kit the Uncle's never ending attempts
- 25:41Speaker 2: to ban same sex marriage and famously comparing waterboarding to swimming.
- 25:45Speaker 1: Which let's see this.
- 25:49Speaker 2: Video of Kit talking about this to his constituents.
- 25:53Speaker 1: To see this his conkitchuents, if you will.
- 25:56Speaker 2: Just would like to but do you think that that
- 25:58Speaker 2: waterboarding as I described it constitutes torture?
- 26:02Speaker 8: There are different ways of doing it. It's like swimming
- 26:05Speaker 8: a freestyle backstroke, if if the if it water boarding
- 26:12Speaker 8: could be used almost to define some of the techniques
- 26:16Speaker 8: that are uh trainees or are put through. But that's
- 26:20Speaker 8: beside the point. It's not it's not being used.
- 26:23Speaker 3: Wow, he said, freestyle backstroke.
- 26:27Speaker 1: You ain't ever done the butterfly waterboard, you know, like
- 26:32Speaker 1: you in the chair.
- 26:33Speaker 2: But they're like, Movi, what do you mean this is torture? Bro?
- 26:39Speaker 1: No, what a border torture.
- 26:41Speaker 2: It's like it's like swimming, you.
- 26:46Speaker 3: Know, it's like swimming.
- 26:49Speaker 1: That's crazy, what do you mean?
- 26:52Speaker 2: And also like can we do a side by side
- 26:54Speaker 2: of like that's what he looked like, you know what,
- 26:56Speaker 2: he was probably saying crazy shit back when he had
- 26:58Speaker 2: that nice ass hair and that sou and people were
- 27:01Speaker 2: distracted by him being a charismatic white man because he's
- 27:05Speaker 2: tall with a full head of hair and a jawline.
- 27:07Speaker 1: And then when he got older, they were like, wait a.
- 27:09Speaker 2: Minute, something's up here. Waterboarding to swimming. He was like, Guantanamo, No,
- 27:15Speaker 2: it's a vacation.
- 27:16Speaker 1: It's a vacation home.
- 27:19Speaker 3: Like what do you mean the island retreat solitary confinement.
- 27:23Speaker 2: How about you ever wanted to have some peace of
- 27:25Speaker 2: mind alone. It's like a silent disco but in the dark,
- 27:31Speaker 2: old fool, it's.
- 27:35Speaker 1: It's meditation.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Yeah, we want you to find yourself.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Oh he tried it, but wow.
- 27:43Speaker 2: So in twenty eighteen and I was like, that was
- 27:45Speaker 2: when Republicans had more decency where they were like, sir,
- 27:48Speaker 2: we have to really stop you. Now they're like, y'all
- 27:50Speaker 2: can just say anything. I feel bad for old school
- 27:52Speaker 2: Republicans who just wanted to keep their money and cheat
- 27:54Speaker 2: the system, because now you got to be down with
- 27:57Speaker 2: all these these racist said They're like, we just wanted
- 28:01Speaker 2: to keep our money and not people never lived, bro,
- 28:03Speaker 2: we wanted to get my tax breaks, one of my
- 28:05Speaker 2: tax breaks, and now I got to wear a red
- 28:07Speaker 2: hat and loser tooth.
- 28:08Speaker 1: We didn't sign up for this, that's not what we
- 28:10Speaker 1: signed up for. Loser tooth. Okay.
- 28:13Speaker 2: We just wanted to hide money in the Caymans, Okay,
- 28:18Speaker 2: not get back to our communities.
- 28:20Speaker 3: That's it, right.
- 28:21Speaker 1: We didn't want to have to get down with all
- 28:23Speaker 1: it is, that's all.
- 28:24Speaker 2: I'll never forget the insurrection when that they get Orange
- 28:28Speaker 2: Man was like, these people who showed up for me
- 28:30Speaker 2: are very ugly.
- 28:33Speaker 1: It's so last.
- 28:35Speaker 3: They're not attractive people.
- 28:37Speaker 1: But off, you're never coming soon.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Snow, these are the people who support you, Okay, the
- 28:41Speaker 2: whol against to the nth degree.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Those are the freep yeah right, that is just oh
- 28:48Speaker 1: my god.
- 28:49Speaker 2: Ra Right, So it's twenty eighteen. The Bonds brought a vacate.
- 28:59Speaker 2: They bought it a care home in Maine with a
- 29:01Speaker 2: million dollar view of Camden Harbor, or it would have
- 29:06Speaker 2: been a million dollar view if not for their neighbor's
- 29:08Speaker 2: oak trees. So now we're back to author and his
- 29:12Speaker 2: party girl Amelia. Right, so they bought this house, look
- 29:16Speaker 2: at this harbor. They was like we're gonna be able
- 29:18Speaker 2: to see all the boats coming in. They're docking, and
- 29:20Speaker 2: you know, we're watching below deck belive, like.
- 29:24Speaker 3: You know, we're living, We're living, you know what I mean.
- 29:27Speaker 2: And we're watching below the deck line. And Camden is
- 29:35Speaker 2: a small town of just five thousand people. So you
- 29:37Speaker 2: got five thousand people and they're rich. Now we're getting.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Into the mess.
- 29:41Speaker 2: Like Nicole Kidman, next miniseries, go to Camden. Okay, get
- 29:45Speaker 2: the next bad Wig. Give me whatever accent you want
- 29:48Speaker 2: to give me. I do not care.
- 29:49Speaker 1: I will watch it. Have somebody wash ashore in Camden.
- 29:52Speaker 1: We need it. So the people who live there are white,
- 29:56Speaker 1: and it's.
- 29:57Speaker 2: A picturesque yeah, Caucasian lovely.
- 30:03Speaker 1: Don't mind if I do.
- 30:08Speaker 5: And this is and honestly, like that's why there would
- 30:19Speaker 5: never be world peace because when white people are led
- 30:21Speaker 5: to their own devices, when they price things out and
- 30:24Speaker 5: they're racially discribinatory, right, and we get a ninety three
- 30:26Speaker 5: percent white area, they still fight it.
- 30:29Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, they're gonna find something.
- 30:32Speaker 1: To find something to be I'm saying about. And so
- 30:36Speaker 1: you know, mostly.
- 30:37Speaker 2: They have mountains, right, it meets the Atlantic Ocean and
- 30:42Speaker 2: it overlooks a bay filled with lobster boats, yachts, and schooners.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Name for some reason schooner schooner.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Schooner Schooner's plowed half the town.
- 30:57Speaker 1: What a horn dog cast.
- 31:01Speaker 2: So it's like a bay that you could tragically not
- 31:05Speaker 2: fully see from Amelia and Arthur's their house, the Bond's house,
- 31:09Speaker 2: because of these oak trees that were blocking their home. Now,
- 31:12Speaker 2: mind you, they've been scamming on Wall Street, scamming most
- 31:18Speaker 2: and so now they decided to get them rich people
- 31:20Speaker 2: stay away home. You know, that's where you go when
- 31:22Speaker 2: you get in the newspapers and you need the heat
- 31:24Speaker 2: to die dat yep. Yeah, And now they don't even
- 31:26Speaker 2: have the view on the home. So the town's assessor
- 31:29Speaker 2: says that properties in Campden have various scales of ocean
- 31:33Speaker 2: view including obstructive view, obstructed, seasonal view, average ocean view,
- 31:40Speaker 2: good ocean view, very good, clean ocean view, panoramic ocean view. Yeah,
- 31:50Speaker 2: so these are the ocean views that you can have,
- 31:53Speaker 2: and this scale determines the value of your home.
- 31:57Speaker 1: So I would.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Imagine the Bonds bought this home and like we've been
- 32:00Speaker 2: big shit in the big city, We've been big shit
- 32:02Speaker 2: in Missouri because we're located with all the politicians. So
- 32:06Speaker 2: now we go to main we beat this million dollar
- 32:08Speaker 2: home and now we're going to the main tea parties
- 32:11Speaker 2: and shit.
- 32:11Speaker 1: And everyone's like, oh, where do you live? Oh, you
- 32:13Speaker 1: live behind the obstructed view. Oh, so all you see
- 32:18Speaker 1: is trees. Come here. They're the ones who about the
- 32:23Speaker 1: lob home. They only see his trees. They've never seen
- 32:28Speaker 1: a schooner.
- 32:31Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to tell the children when they
- 32:33Speaker 2: come home from college to get money. So for much
- 32:38Speaker 2: of the year, when the trees were bare, the bonds
- 32:41Speaker 2: had a fairly unobstructed view, but in the summer months,
- 32:44Speaker 2: the foliage.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Created a natural screen.
- 32:48Speaker 2: The foliage like they probably went from like very good
- 32:53Speaker 2: ocean view or maybe even good ocean view, to obstructed
- 32:59Speaker 2: seasonal view. The ghetto obstructed season I would not be
- 33:04Speaker 2: seen in your cull decide you already come in her
- 33:06Speaker 2: roundabout with an obstructed seasonal view.
- 33:09Speaker 1: My social status will be through the ground.
- 33:12Speaker 2: So for like they had it though, they had the
- 33:15Speaker 2: obstructed seasonal So if only they could get the full season. Yeah,
- 33:20Speaker 2: if only they could get rid.
- 33:21Speaker 4: Of They must have bought it when it was.
- 33:25Speaker 2: It was probably a good realtor who saw them the
- 33:29Speaker 2: home during the good view season and they probably marked
- 33:37Speaker 2: up the home because of the view.
- 33:41Speaker 3: They're like, look, there it is.
- 33:43Speaker 1: I remember these people.
- 33:45Speaker 2: We learned in the beginning that a million author they
- 33:47Speaker 2: mostly live in Brooklyn. Like Brooklyn the summer in Maine.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Oh so that's the only time.
- 33:53Speaker 1: Maybe they bought the house in the summer because in
- 33:57Speaker 1: the summer, right now.
- 34:00Speaker 2: Get down, because they bought it in the summer because
- 34:03Speaker 2: they wanted to see the season they were going to
- 34:04Speaker 2: be seasoning that then they up charged them for the
- 34:08Speaker 2: view because they're like, these are out of town city
- 34:10Speaker 2: sleakers who have no idea that this is an obstructed.
- 34:15Speaker 1: They don't know about the foliage.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I don't want to be on your side,
- 34:20Speaker 2: but I'm on your side a little bit.
- 34:22Speaker 3: Like I love a little bit.
- 34:23Speaker 2: I think that I think I'll paid a little bit
- 34:25Speaker 2: too much because they got you because they knew you
- 34:26Speaker 2: weren't from the area.
- 34:28Speaker 4: But yeah, then it's like, but did they did they
- 34:30Speaker 4: have other beef or did they know them? Did they
- 34:32Speaker 4: was there an interaction? I mean, I'm sure you're probably
- 34:34Speaker 4: gonna get to it.
- 34:35Speaker 2: But when people can smell, when you don't know things right,
- 34:41Speaker 2: And I feel like in certain situations, you know, like
- 34:44Speaker 2: you have your car salesman, you have your realtors. Like
- 34:47Speaker 2: when you're selling a property or an item that only
- 34:50Speaker 2: has as much value as you put onto it, then
- 34:53Speaker 2: that's where you have to have a finesser to come
- 34:56Speaker 2: in and tell you that it's worth that. So like,
- 34:58Speaker 2: for example, if I buy it exp piece of jewely,
- 35:00Speaker 2: but like let's say it's like Cardier or something like that,
- 35:02Speaker 2: right that has a price tag on it. It may
- 35:05Speaker 2: be expensive, but it has a price tag on it. Now,
- 35:07Speaker 2: let's say I go to a drawer who makes custom
- 35:09Speaker 2: pieces and it's all real gold. It might be the
- 35:11Speaker 2: same ingredients they're using at the Cardier store, right, but
- 35:14Speaker 2: they are now assigning the value based on how you feel.
- 35:17Speaker 2: So if you come in and you were like, I'm
- 35:19Speaker 2: only spending this much, they'll probably sell it to you
- 35:21Speaker 2: for that much. But if you come in and they
- 35:22Speaker 2: can give you a little razzle dazzle, they're gonna up
- 35:26Speaker 2: charge you, right, Right, So I feel like with this
- 35:28Speaker 2: real estate, they might have been like, oh, in an unobstructive.
- 35:31Speaker 1: View in this in the summer time, don't worry about.
- 35:35Speaker 1: But right now you can see, you.
- 35:38Speaker 3: Know, they don't know.
- 35:40Speaker 2: They're not from here, so they don't know about season changes.
- 35:43Speaker 2: So their neighbor happened to be Lisa Gorman, the wife
- 35:46Speaker 2: of late Leon Gorman, who had been LL Bean's president
- 35:50Speaker 2: and the grandson of the actual l L himself, making
- 35:54Speaker 2: her a wealthy heiress and basically main royalty. So oh yeah,
- 35:59Speaker 2: she looks like a social she looks like she plans
- 36:01Speaker 2: all the gatherings.
- 36:02Speaker 1: Is that her man?
- 36:04Speaker 3: Is that? That's her man?
- 36:06Speaker 1: Oh no?
- 36:07Speaker 3: Wait, so he was a president LBAN.
- 36:09Speaker 1: So he's the grandson.
- 36:10Speaker 2: So he nepoed a little bit because Elban, like the
- 36:14Speaker 2: actual ll himself, is the grandfather, so he is the
- 36:18Speaker 2: president and grandson of the actual l And if you
- 36:20Speaker 2: don't know what Lban is, it's like like outdoorsy shit,
- 36:25Speaker 2: like you know, like jackets and boots, a lot of waterproof.
- 36:28Speaker 1: Boots and things like that.
- 36:30Speaker 2: I once stated somebody who loved LL being and I
- 36:33Speaker 2: had some Loban boots and then I returned.
- 36:36Speaker 3: Like outdoorsy j crew.
- 36:38Speaker 2: But yeah it's I like to hike, but I'm bougie, yes,
- 36:43Speaker 2: you know, you know.
- 36:44Speaker 1: But also this man looks significantly older than her.
- 36:47Speaker 2: And he also just looks like I could tell in
- 36:50Speaker 2: her day she was like the Baddy Baddy she got
- 36:51Speaker 2: on the Van Cleeve necklace, like she kept that body
- 36:54Speaker 2: tight and fit, and she hosted all the parties.
- 36:58Speaker 1: And events and made sure that all the kudu looking.
- 37:01Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's like a main haircut that I feel
- 37:03Speaker 2: like was probably popping in society. Like that's like the
- 37:06Speaker 2: Rachel for people in Maine, I feel like. And he
- 37:10Speaker 2: looks happy to be with her. Look how you smiled
- 37:11Speaker 2: a hard Ye, that's my lady, right, mouth dry as hell.
- 37:14Speaker 1: I know after he finished that smile, he was bleeding.
- 37:17Speaker 3: And he don't have no upper lip.
- 37:19Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no no.
- 37:19Speaker 2: That's a part of being in may. You know, if
- 37:21Speaker 2: you got an upper lip, you don't belong here. Okay, yeah, yeah,
- 37:24Speaker 2: if you're gonna be yeah her too, you're right.
- 37:25Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're gonna be on the upper list of society.
- 37:27Speaker 2: I know you heard the upper crust, we talk about
- 37:29Speaker 2: the upper lip of the society. You got too much lip.
- 37:32Speaker 2: We need to check your lineas because how did you
- 37:34Speaker 2: get over here? We're ninety three percent so leon linnwood
- 37:41Speaker 2: Bean founded the Freeport main based outdoor apparel in nineteen twelve.
- 37:45Speaker 1: Right, so it's an old school brand.
- 37:47Speaker 2: She an old school diva, and she's like royalty there
- 37:50Speaker 2: because she's that girl.
- 37:52Speaker 1: And this is the photo of the original llll Bean
- 37:54Speaker 1: out in the y.
- 37:56Speaker 3: He has a lot of foilage behind it.
- 37:57Speaker 2: And he also but it's given ll Bean because he's like, yeah,
- 38:00Speaker 2: I'm gonna be in the woods, but I got a
- 38:01Speaker 2: walking stick, I got a jacket with but is on,
- 38:04Speaker 2: and a collar bee. I'm out here to like shoot
- 38:06Speaker 2: duck and be a battie. He was like, I don't
- 38:09Speaker 2: want to look like I'm a regular woodsman. I'm not
- 38:11Speaker 2: out here to chop a tree. I'm not a lumberjack.
- 38:14Speaker 2: I'm upper Crustah, but we like nature too. So in
- 38:17Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, Lisa's husband, I remember Lisa's the ll being
- 38:22Speaker 2: now heiress because she married into the family. Okay, so
- 38:25Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, Lisa's husband, Leon was the richest person
- 38:28Speaker 2: in Maine, but in twenty fifteen he passed away.
- 38:32Speaker 1: When he passed away, Lisa came.
- 38:36Speaker 3: The richest president man.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And now she got no husband, so she has it's.
- 38:41Speaker 9: Time and money, yes, yes, yes, so you.
- 38:57Speaker 1: Too much. You can with me neighbors and support HAVOC,
- 39:01Speaker 1: just do it. Convenient tree deaths.
- 39:05Speaker 2: Sometime in the spring of April twenty two, a caretaker
- 39:09Speaker 2: noticed that several of the trees on Lisa's property were struggling.
- 39:15Speaker 1: They were struggling for life.
- 39:17Speaker 2: They were withered, with leaves turning yellow and brown, and
- 39:21Speaker 2: not at the time that they're supposed to Okay, not
- 39:24Speaker 2: an ugly tree hunting. The failing trees were along the
- 39:27Speaker 2: property line that divided Lisa's house from her uphill neighbors.
- 39:32Speaker 1: The bonds, remember the bonds.
- 39:34Speaker 2: Okay, they sty did the stocks and bonds in New York,
- 39:36Speaker 2: and they also did Say Louis, the bond against Saint Louis.
- 39:39Speaker 2: So when the trees and other vegetation began dying in June,
- 39:44Speaker 2: which is a summer month, Amelia told Lisa that the
- 39:48Speaker 2: trees didn't look good and offered to split the cost
- 39:52Speaker 2: of cutting them down. So Amelia came over to Lisa
- 39:57Speaker 2: of Maine and she said.
- 39:58Speaker 1: Oh, my goodness, he's a girl.
- 40:01Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we're back from Brooklyn, and I just wanted
- 40:06Speaker 2: to say, like, you are the Grand Dame of Maine
- 40:08Speaker 2: and your trees look like ass would you like want
- 40:12Speaker 2: me to help you with the cost of cutting them down?
- 40:14Speaker 2: Some sof so ugly and I don't know why they're
- 40:17Speaker 2: so ugly. I don't know what you did to them.
- 40:18Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe since your husband, I even know
- 40:20Speaker 1: how to take care of a tree anymore.
- 40:21Speaker 2: Was he the green dumb who knows el bean with
- 40:25Speaker 2: a bad tree bad for the.
- 40:26Speaker 3: Brown Yes, we need to do something about it.
- 40:28Speaker 1: Lan only has green trees.
- 40:30Speaker 2: So she said it might have been due to brown
- 40:33Speaker 2: tailed moths, a pest that had been causing some trouble
- 40:37Speaker 2: for Maine's oak trees recently. So Milie even had a story.
- 40:40Speaker 2: She said, have you not seen them browntail moths? Because
- 40:42Speaker 2: I didn't seen them?
- 40:43Speaker 3: Yeah, look it up.
- 40:44Speaker 1: Okay, they were.
- 40:44Speaker 2: Nowing on my sweater. Then I saw them noing on
- 40:46Speaker 2: my tree. I was like, get out of here, browntail mom.
- 40:49Speaker 3: I sight you.
- 40:51Speaker 1: And when I saw them on your trees, I was like,
- 40:53Speaker 1: I can't believe it.
- 40:55Speaker 2: So do you want to put the cost of taking
- 40:56Speaker 2: them down? When when ugly trees gone?
- 40:59Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 41:01Speaker 1: So Lisa didn't buy it because she's old school Maine.
- 41:03Speaker 2: She was like, I've been living here for many a
- 41:05Speaker 2: season and ain't no brown tail maf.
- 41:07Speaker 1: Killed my trees, right, bitch, you knew here.
- 41:11Speaker 2: So instead she asked her landscapers and it says she asked,
- 41:15Speaker 2: but I feel like she might have been yelling at them.
- 41:18Speaker 2: So she asked her landscapers bartlet tree experts to look
- 41:22Speaker 2: at the trees, and they took soil and tissue samples.
- 41:26Speaker 1: Oo they are so this is the experts.
- 41:30Speaker 2: Wow, and they look they got on best, they got
- 41:35Speaker 2: on hats.
- 41:35Speaker 1: It's giving exit.
- 41:38Speaker 2: And they posing with trees. They all look pretty healthy.
- 41:41Speaker 2: So they clearly are experts. And she asked them to
- 41:45Speaker 2: take samples like she wanted forensics. Remember this is a
- 41:48Speaker 2: widowed woman with the most money and maine.
- 41:51Speaker 3: All the time.
- 41:52Speaker 1: So she said, call out marisk A hearkta.
- 41:54Speaker 4: Oh okay, I need arkaty.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Soil and order SV leaves and order SV you.
- 42:08Speaker 2: Okay, y'all come out here, y'all get the droppers out,
- 42:10Speaker 2: and y'all get the Petrie dsh she said, like okay,
- 42:12Speaker 2: Special Crimes Unit JOm Jones, She said, don't play with
- 42:16Speaker 2: me my money long. So their test came back positive
- 42:20Speaker 2: for taboo ferron.
- 42:23Speaker 3: Oh shit, I couldn't.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Believe it myself. I said, not the taboo, Thearyl y'oll
- 42:31Speaker 2: wold taboo fern. What would y'all do this? And that's
- 42:38Speaker 2: a famous plant killer if you don't know, like me
- 42:40Speaker 2: and Frankie, right, And it had spread more than eighty trees,
- 42:48Speaker 2: bushes and shrubs on Lisa's property, including maples, blueberry bushes, dogwoods,
- 42:57Speaker 2: and seven mature oaks that towered over the houses, ranging
- 43:01Speaker 2: from a thirty nine to seventy foot high level seventy
- 43:05Speaker 2: seven foot high level.
- 43:07Speaker 1: So mind you, these trees take time to build.
- 43:09Speaker 2: Yeah, mimss Gurley is in the nineteen twelve dynasty, So
- 43:13Speaker 2: now you're killing some of the legacy with these trees.
- 43:16Speaker 2: And you know at her big age, she probably walking
- 43:18Speaker 2: the girls around the trees all the time. And they
- 43:21Speaker 2: got a blueberry bush.
- 43:22Speaker 1: You're killing produce.
- 43:23Speaker 3: You can't white, you can't mess with the blueberries.
- 43:25Speaker 2: You can't having a fresh blueberry smoothie and blueberries that
- 43:29Speaker 2: her yogurt for forever.
- 43:30Speaker 3: And you're fucking up the bag, like pick me some
- 43:32Speaker 3: berries please, you know.
- 43:33Speaker 2: And the one thing that you can really hurt a
- 43:35Speaker 2: rich person with is fucking up something old because all
- 43:38Speaker 2: money loves to pretend like they need a level always.
- 43:41Speaker 2: So if you get rich, then even if you go
- 43:43Speaker 2: into that upper class, that be like, oh, we just
- 43:45Speaker 2: got your money, and like we're from Ansh family and
- 43:48Speaker 2: we've had money and.
- 43:50Speaker 3: Like their culture. Yeah, culture, sonny.
- 43:54Speaker 2: So what Emlialy didn't realize is that by fucking with
- 43:57Speaker 2: them trees, she was fucking with a culture.
- 44:00Speaker 1: This old ass tree.
- 44:00Speaker 2: She was like, hell, you know, Papa Bean used to
- 44:03Speaker 2: come scale this tree.
- 44:05Speaker 1: It's where he came up with the rain coat. You're
- 44:12Speaker 1: fucking up the loory, okay.
- 44:15Speaker 2: And so the plants were beyond saving and would need
- 44:19Speaker 2: to be removed, and because of the nature of the herbicide,
- 44:23Speaker 2: which doesn't break down.
- 44:25Speaker 1: The soil would have to be removed too.
- 44:28Speaker 2: So she basically salted to the earth this land. And
- 44:33Speaker 2: and what's wild to me about this is like, girl,
- 44:37Speaker 2: if you're gonna poisonous rich old lady trees, yeah, why
- 44:41Speaker 2: would you tell her? Like why would you go over
- 44:43Speaker 2: to her house? But I noticed that your trees are dying,
- 44:46Speaker 2: Like now she knows who the imminent threat is. Her
- 44:49Speaker 2: trees ain't been dying since you moved in. And then
- 44:51Speaker 2: you pulled your ass up to the block and was like,
- 44:52Speaker 2: you want to split the calls? Why are you first
- 44:54Speaker 2: of all rich people? Rich people fould play Number one?
- 44:58Speaker 2: Why would you do a crime and and even be
- 45:00Speaker 2: near it trying to help? Okay, they have people do that,
- 45:03Speaker 2: and then and then they pretend they never even knew
- 45:05Speaker 2: those people Number two, which I think might be the
- 45:07Speaker 2: biggest flaw here. If you're rich, a lot of people
- 45:10Speaker 2: who are rich get there by being cheap and greedy.
- 45:12Speaker 2: In fact, I'm gonna say, oh, you know what I mean,
- 45:14Speaker 2: if you pay people a living wage, you could still
- 45:16Speaker 2: be rich, but you wouldn't be like maybe super ultra
- 45:18Speaker 2: billionaire wealthy nineteen twelve money because you're paying people a
- 45:21Speaker 2: fair wage. So you can still be rich and pay
- 45:23Speaker 2: people fairly. But the last thing you would do offer
- 45:26Speaker 2: to split costs on something on someone else's property. Red flag, huge,
- 45:30Speaker 2: red flag. I think that's honestly where Lisa was like,
- 45:34Speaker 2: split costs.
- 45:36Speaker 4: Yeah, something up they got away with with their little
- 45:42Speaker 4: charities in Saint Louis, and that they're probably being getting
- 45:44Speaker 4: away with.
- 45:45Speaker 2: Crazy Kid was saying anything. Kid said waterboarding, U scuba.
- 45:50Speaker 3: Diving, freestyle swimming. You know it's.
- 45:53Speaker 1: Parasling, freestyle swimming. It's all the same.
- 45:57Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, yeah, just just poison the trees and
- 45:59Speaker 3: tell me to split the cost. Easy.
- 46:00Speaker 1: Hear me out waterboard him boogie boarding.
- 46:06Speaker 2: So they used to un serious people and getting away
- 46:08Speaker 2: with these things, all right. So the same chemical that
- 46:13Speaker 2: had been used on the trees on Lisa's property had
- 46:16Speaker 2: been used in a twenty ten crime of passion by
- 46:18Speaker 2: an angry sixty two year old Alabama college football fan
- 46:22Speaker 2: named Harvey Updyke to kill famous oak trees at Auburn
- 46:27Speaker 2: University's Tumor's Corner after a particularly hard Alabama loss against Auburn.
- 46:32Speaker 1: So, after a football loss against.
- 46:34Speaker 2: Auburn, Harvey admitted to killing the trees on the Auburn property,
- 46:41Speaker 2: even calling a radio show to brag about it. And
- 46:43Speaker 2: he did an observing jail time. So he killed their trees.
- 46:46Speaker 2: That's how mad he was, is that he went into
- 46:48Speaker 2: botany over a football game.
- 46:52Speaker 3: I know how.
- 46:54Speaker 2: I m ghettham botany. Honestly, nobody should go to jail
- 46:58Speaker 2: for botany. This is like lore, like just replace the trees.
- 47:01Speaker 2: It's not it's not that crazy. Like, don't fill up
- 47:03Speaker 2: our prisons with people who who are petty to the
- 47:06Speaker 2: ant degree? He said, I got a green.
- 47:09Speaker 3: Though, what are you in for botany?
- 47:15Speaker 1: Like that? At that point, you gotta lie about your jacket, right.
- 47:18Speaker 2: You can't tell people that you were in jail for botany,
- 47:20Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You gotta be like I
- 47:22Speaker 2: killed a bunch of people, or I killed a bunch
- 47:25Speaker 2: of things in nature.
- 47:26Speaker 1: Don't say it's trees.
- 47:28Speaker 3: It was they were alive, Rather killed.
- 47:30Speaker 1: A bunch of alive thing. People's things were alive and
- 47:34Speaker 1: now they did. Yeah, you gotta get let's just say
- 47:39Speaker 1: things that were living aren't living anymore.
- 47:43Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the end. Okay, Okay, okay, cool, we're gonna.
- 47:46Speaker 1: Pat you up.
- 47:47Speaker 2: So in twenty twenty one, a million bond bought four
- 47:50Speaker 2: pounds of this poison in Missouri and drove it to Maine.
- 47:54Speaker 2: So she didn't go on pepper trail. Okay, I kind
- 47:56Speaker 2: of fox with this driving it man. That's when she
- 47:58Speaker 2: applied it near Lisa's oak trees. This particular chemical contaminates
- 48:03Speaker 2: the soil and does not break down, so it continues
- 48:05Speaker 2: to kill plants. It kind of just spreads out and
- 48:07Speaker 2: let's you remove the soil, there's gonna live and keep killing.
- 48:10Speaker 2: The other solution is waiting for nature to thin out
- 48:13Speaker 2: the concentration of the herbicide for safe levels for plants,
- 48:16Speaker 2: but that could take up to two years. And we
- 48:18Speaker 2: know Lisa don't wait no time. She got money. Yeah,
- 48:22Speaker 2: things are instant for her. So let's look at Amelia
- 48:25Speaker 2: Bond's house in that first picture again. So wow, her house,
- 48:31Speaker 2: all the brown trees around it that she murdered, and
- 48:35Speaker 2: now she has.
- 48:35Speaker 1: A view even through the trees.
- 48:38Speaker 2: But Amelia wasn't satisfied. I think that's why she went
- 48:39Speaker 2: to Lisa's house and was like, Lisa, girl, your tree
- 48:42Speaker 2: is a nasty Will you cut them and I'll help
- 48:45Speaker 2: you cut them, and let's do it today.
- 48:47Speaker 3: She got greedy, She got too greedy.
- 48:49Speaker 2: So Lisa's trees are now gone, and the harbor view
- 48:52Speaker 2: from the Bond's home has obviously improved. But the herbicide
- 48:56Speaker 2: used to poison the trees leached into a neighboring park
- 49:01Speaker 2: and the town's only public sea side beach.
- 49:04Speaker 1: She even poison the whole name.
- 49:06Speaker 3: She poisoned the beach.
- 49:08Speaker 2: Lisa, if you're gonna be a brown thumb, at least
- 49:12Speaker 2: gets get on a Reddit, Get on a website. I'm
- 49:16Speaker 2: sure you can't be the only petty poisoner out there
- 49:19Speaker 2: and figure out. I think she got all this and
- 49:21Speaker 2: just dumped it. She was like, I don't know how
- 49:23Speaker 2: much it's gonna take.
- 49:23Speaker 1: Let's do it all now. You don't plase in a
- 49:26Speaker 1: whole goddamn neighborhood.
- 49:28Speaker 2: So the Bonds paid a forty five hundred dollars fee
- 49:31Speaker 2: to resolve the main Board of Pesticide Control Boards violations
- 49:34Speaker 2: for unauthorized use of an herbicide and that was like
- 49:37Speaker 2: obviously applied inappropriately and not allowed for residential use. And
- 49:42Speaker 2: you know when you get into these kind of residences
- 49:44Speaker 2: and the hoa.
- 49:44Speaker 1: Is don't play.
- 49:45Speaker 2: And so they also had to pay one hundred and
- 49:48Speaker 2: eighty thousand dollars to resolve violations with the town and
- 49:51Speaker 2: another thirty thousand dollars for additional environmental testing.
- 49:56Speaker 1: This is what I'm gonna say, Amelia, for this point, bibbs.
- 50:01Speaker 2: Bibbs, why were you trying to do this like in city,
- 50:09Speaker 2: Like you drove to a different city, probably bought all
- 50:12Speaker 2: this tree poison in cash, maybe showed up in a
- 50:14Speaker 2: hoodie and a and a hat, and did all this
- 50:16Speaker 2: with a state you could have just hired a tree
- 50:20Speaker 2: hitman and had somebody to come cut these trees down
- 50:24Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, or maybe hire like
- 50:27Speaker 2: a private investigator. And when you see Lisa's like out
- 50:30Speaker 2: on vacation or somewhere having buzz autumn trees down, and yeah,
- 50:34Speaker 2: you would have had to pay Lisa, but you wouldn't
- 50:37Speaker 2: have been a minute to the entire neighborhood. You wouldn't
- 50:40Speaker 2: have had to pay one hundred and eighty thousand, probably
- 50:42Speaker 2: would have had to pay a one hundred grand, but
- 50:45Speaker 2: the violations with the town another thirty thousand for environmental testing,
- 50:49Speaker 2: and then you also had to pay more than one
- 50:51Speaker 2: point five million to Lisa in a legal settlement settlement,
- 50:56Speaker 2: which almost as much as they paid for their actual
- 50:58Speaker 2: vacation home that they bought twenty eighteen babes. You could
- 51:02Speaker 2: just pay the one point five or I bet you
- 51:04Speaker 2: the settlement wouldn't have been as high if you had
- 51:06Speaker 2: a poison the whole goddamn neighborhood.
- 51:09Speaker 3: So it cost over cost over two million, because I.
- 51:11Speaker 2: Bet you that Lisa got sympathy points in this rich
- 51:15Speaker 2: people dispute because she was like, not only did they
- 51:18Speaker 2: murder my trees and plants that obviously have an LLB in.
- 51:21Speaker 3: History, my blueberries.
- 51:23Speaker 2: They also took down the neighborhood park, which is where
- 51:28Speaker 2: seven percent of our ethnics like to play.
- 51:32Speaker 3: It's the only place they have access on the.
- 51:33Speaker 2: Beach and this is gonna cause damage for years to come,
- 51:38Speaker 2: decades even like girl, just hire a tree hitman, like
- 51:43Speaker 2: you did too much? Yeah, so Freggie, what are your
- 51:47Speaker 2: thoughts about a million?
- 51:49Speaker 1: Like how do we feel like she is on the
- 51:51Speaker 1: Scammra scale? Like do we love her? Do we hate her? Also?
- 51:55Speaker 2: Do we feel like she could have improved on this
- 51:57Speaker 2: or maybe just left it alone?
- 51:58Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 51:59Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's he's easy to hate.
- 52:00Speaker 4: For me, it was I wanted to like her because
- 52:04Speaker 4: of her you know, she liked to party and do
- 52:06Speaker 4: cocainish and now she does pills and but but like
- 52:10Speaker 4: just to it makes me think she's got away with
- 52:12Speaker 4: so much for her to have the confidence to be like, Okay,
- 52:14Speaker 4: I'm going to buy this tree poison, I'm gonna drive
- 52:17Speaker 4: to our beach home. I'm gonna dump all this shit.
- 52:20Speaker 4: It's gonna work out, Like to have that, like like
- 52:23Speaker 4: for your mind to work Yeah, oh for sure, because
- 52:26Speaker 4: that's the paths are the ones who know it's wrong
- 52:28Speaker 4: but do it anyway, right, and then psychopaths just have
- 52:31Speaker 4: no idea.
- 52:32Speaker 1: That they have no conscience.
- 52:33Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure.
- 52:35Speaker 2: Can we pull the difference between the two, But I'm
- 52:36Speaker 2: pretty sure, Like she's sociopath.
- 52:38Speaker 3: And I love blueberries and you hurt the blueberries?
- 52:41Speaker 1: Why would you do that?
- 52:42Speaker 3: Yeah? Just sick.
- 52:43Speaker 2: I agree with you because and maybe it's that Wall
- 52:46Speaker 2: Street mindset of like, because we know she had to
- 52:48Speaker 2: have been working through the housing market crisis and obviously
- 52:50Speaker 2: she made out like a fat cap because then they
- 52:52Speaker 2: went to political tections connections that they had in Missouri,
- 52:55Speaker 2: which were clearly just a man who had a full
- 52:57Speaker 2: head of hair, and they used that up and suck
- 52:59Speaker 2: that's aciety dry. It didn't even have a name for
- 53:02Speaker 2: the damn charity. We don't even know what they were
- 53:05Speaker 2: charitable too. So it's giving money laundering because they well,
- 53:10Speaker 2: even the Republican the head of the Saint Louis Community Foundation,
- 53:16Speaker 2: what does that mean that y'all do?
- 53:18Speaker 4: Yeah? Community founder where even the Republican environmental has got
- 53:22Speaker 4: upset with them.
- 53:22Speaker 3: You know, something that something was.
- 53:25Speaker 2: The Republicans were pissed that you and your foundation is
- 53:28Speaker 2: just for community.
- 53:29Speaker 1: What community?
- 53:31Speaker 3: Which one not?
- 53:32Speaker 1: The trees clearly not.
- 53:34Speaker 2: And so psychopaths are the ones who have no conscious
- 53:38Speaker 2: and sociopaths may have a weak and inconsistent of alble
- 53:40Speaker 2: to feel empathy, which I think is what we're dealing
- 53:42Speaker 2: with here. I think that she is a sociopath because
- 53:45Speaker 2: to your point, Frankie, like, she clearly obviously got away
- 53:48Speaker 2: with a lot of shit in her life to the
- 53:50Speaker 2: point where she drove her crazy ass down.
- 53:52Speaker 1: To Missouri, which is honestly giving me.
- 53:54Speaker 2: Like that one lady, remember that stocker lady who like
- 53:56Speaker 2: drove across the country and it was like news for
- 53:58Speaker 2: weeks because she like bought diapers and like she like
- 54:01Speaker 2: just peede and diapers to go like stalk somebody.
- 54:05Speaker 1: Remember, Like she did not want to stop driving. And
- 54:08Speaker 1: that's what this is. You drove to Missouri to get
- 54:10Speaker 1: this poison thinking that.
- 54:12Speaker 2: Nobody was gonna know it was you because you had
- 54:14Speaker 2: a perfect plan, and then you went back to the
- 54:16Speaker 2: scene of the crime after it worked. It's also giving
- 54:19Speaker 2: like as soon as the plan started to die, you
- 54:21Speaker 2: was like out in your balcony sip in your tea.
- 54:23Speaker 2: Leg there they go, Okay, it's finally time, Arthur. I'm
- 54:32Speaker 2: gonna make them stop next door and then go down
- 54:34Speaker 2: be like, oh poor thing, these ugly trees. And you
- 54:37Speaker 2: went after the head of Maine society, so who knows
- 54:39Speaker 2: if you have a vendetta there, then now you make
- 54:41Speaker 2: it her property ugly. Then you're offering a split to
- 54:43Speaker 2: cut down the trees, trying to act like you're benevolent
- 54:46Speaker 2: when you know you caused the problem, right, and this
- 54:50Speaker 2: it's the audacity.
- 54:51Speaker 1: You're right because honestly, if she'd done the.
- 54:54Speaker 2: Scam where she was a tree hitman and she just
- 54:56Speaker 2: had somebody to cut the trees down and then had
- 54:59Speaker 2: a dispute with the courts, I would have been on
- 55:02Speaker 2: her side because I would have been like, yeah, them
- 55:04Speaker 2: trees sucking up your view and maybe like yeah, you
- 55:06Speaker 2: shouldn't cut up people's treets, but like fuck it if
- 55:08Speaker 2: you want to view like it's what is this.
- 55:10Speaker 1: Rich on rich crime? I don't care do it. But
- 55:13Speaker 1: you're right, it's the whole subject few sneakiness of it all.
- 55:16Speaker 4: And I'm more on the you know, Papa Bean be
- 55:18Speaker 4: a real one. I'm Papa Bean's money than this crooked ass.
- 55:21Speaker 1: Amelia, we would have been on your side.
- 55:23Speaker 2: You scammed it up Ernest on the streets of Wall Street,
- 55:25Speaker 2: robbing everybody and making them lose their homes.
- 55:27Speaker 1: Then you scammed it up even more honestly in the country.
- 55:30Speaker 2: Clubs of Missouri, you know, riding the coattails, like if
- 55:32Speaker 2: you're crazy ass waterboard, surfboard as you know, freestyle.
- 55:39Speaker 1: Freestyle, torture, torture, we let them choose.
- 55:45Speaker 3: Okay, then ball, what's your shoe here? Hey?
- 55:49Speaker 1: We let you run on these grips.
- 55:51Speaker 2: And if you had came out and been a real
- 55:52Speaker 2: grifter in Maine instead of trying to poison and be
- 55:54Speaker 2: a sociopath, we could have been on your side.
- 55:57Speaker 1: So moving on to our last segment here scam of
- 56:00Speaker 1: the week.
- 56:00Speaker 2: We're gonna be highlighting a biblical flood that was postponed indefinitely.
- 56:07Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so it was a biblical food but it's
- 56:10Speaker 2: postponed now but indefinitely. We don't know when the biblical
- 56:14Speaker 2: food but don't even like so if you Noah out there,
- 56:17Speaker 2: you got your art, like, don't care it now, but.
- 56:21Speaker 3: It's coming, but it's gonna be postponed.
- 56:23Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like three to five business centuries.
- 56:26Speaker 2: Just don't even don't worry about that. So in African news,
- 56:32Speaker 2: Ghana's self proclaimed prophet Ebu Noah, who goes.
- 56:36Speaker 1: By Noah Okay with the art here we go.
- 56:40Speaker 2: He went viral on TikTok and YouTube at the end
- 56:42Speaker 2: of last year for claiming that a global flood would
- 56:45Speaker 2: begin on Christmas Day of twenty twenty five. Now, I
- 56:48Speaker 2: will say he is giving me Noah's art chic, you
- 56:51Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's got a tatter on.
- 56:54Speaker 1: Now listen his look at his social media.
- 56:57Speaker 2: These camera like he's not a camera that's giving us
- 56:59Speaker 2: like four K at least, like you.
- 57:04Speaker 3: Believe that nice ass office he's in too.
- 57:06Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you got tatters.
- 57:09Speaker 2: And then you know what, both of these pictures are
- 57:11Speaker 2: incongruent because in the first one, the tatters matched the
- 57:15Speaker 2: background a little bit because it feels like we're in
- 57:17Speaker 2: nature a little bit, even though there's houses behind him.
- 57:19Speaker 2: But what's not matching here is that you're in portrait mode,
- 57:22Speaker 2: my guy, So why you got portrait mode? But with
- 57:26Speaker 2: also tatters? You got you got money for portrait, you
- 57:29Speaker 2: got money for shirts. And then in the other one
- 57:32Speaker 2: the tatters, like the quality of the image isn't as good,
- 57:36Speaker 2: but then the background is completely industrial, like you said, Frank.
- 57:39Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's like his expression of the other one,
- 57:43Speaker 4: I got you actually have a nice office, right, He was.
- 57:48Speaker 2: Like, I gotta show more personality in this one because
- 57:50Speaker 2: they're gonna catch on. And the other one he's getting
- 57:52Speaker 2: proud men of Ghana and like, don't actually come to
- 57:56Speaker 2: Ghana because then you realize there's a lot of rich
- 57:57Speaker 2: neighborhoods and beautiful beaches. But like, right now, I got
- 58:01Speaker 2: on tatters, and I'm gonna hope that all of you
- 58:03Speaker 2: grew up with National Geographic in your in your elementary
- 58:06Speaker 2: schools and you won't know that Ghana is actually also.
- 58:08Speaker 1: A very rich country. You won't know. I'm like, why
- 58:12Speaker 1: would you do this, sir?
- 58:13Speaker 2: So he started building modern day Noah's Arks to survive
- 58:17Speaker 2: what he said would be a three year flood. So
- 58:20Speaker 2: also he knows it's gonna be three years. So in
- 58:23Speaker 2: a video called what will Happen and How it Will Happen,
- 58:26Speaker 2: which honestly, I'm sure a lot of people clicked on
- 58:29Speaker 2: because we don't know what will happen, and we certainly
- 58:30Speaker 2: don't know how he posted this. In August, he claimed
- 58:34Speaker 2: that God revealed that it would rain continuously for three
- 58:37Speaker 2: years starting on Christmas Day. And we have a little
- 58:41Speaker 2: bit of what God reveals to Noah. Wait, the tatters
- 58:47Speaker 2: were addressed.
- 58:48Speaker 1: I hear, oh wow, just keep your eyes on.
- 58:54Speaker 2: Okay, he got some goat and an iPhone. He has
- 58:56Speaker 2: an iPhone in his hand with the tatters man.
- 59:01Speaker 3: Wait, this is the music he listens to her.
- 59:04Speaker 1: This is the music that he put on the video.
- 59:07Speaker 2: And he's walking around barefoot in what is definitely also
- 59:11Speaker 2: animal poop and soil.
- 59:13Speaker 1: So he's got some white cows.
- 59:15Speaker 2: Yeah, they keep trying to leave frame, and he keeps
- 59:17Speaker 2: like being like panned the camera over.
- 59:19Speaker 1: So that they're in frame.
- 59:21Speaker 2: The tired of this, and the cows look a little hungry.
- 59:25Speaker 2: I don't know if they gonna survive three years on
- 59:27Speaker 2: the ship, Like.
- 59:28Speaker 3: There ain't gonna be no flood man right, and under.
- 59:30Speaker 2: His tatters, I see something red and it looks like
- 59:33Speaker 2: some boxers that are clearly bought from a store. Ye, so, like, bro,
- 59:45Speaker 2: wait freaking you're man, what are those boxes that like
- 59:48Speaker 2: the fun Boys like to wear?
- 59:50Speaker 1: They had the colored band.
- 59:51Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about, Like the briefs, a
- 59:53Speaker 2: boxer briefs.
- 59:55Speaker 3: What do they call? Yeah, I don't know this box
- 59:57Speaker 3: boxer briefs right, Well, there's a box.
- 59:59Speaker 2: Of we've read that they'd be like an awaar and
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: like that with the colored band it's like red or
- 1:00:04Speaker 2: blue or whatever.
- 1:00:04Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: I only see when people have their pants sagging. But
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: that's what it's given to me. And then he was like,
- 1:00:08Speaker 2: let me put some tatterers over this, like say, we
- 1:00:11Speaker 2: can see okayvins?
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: Can you be for real?
- 1:00:13Speaker 3: Wait, how does he get How does he have all
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: money to build a art?
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: How does he have money to build a arc?
- 1:00:18Speaker 2: How does he walking around in a video that someone
- 1:00:22Speaker 2: else is filming while he's also holding an iPhone? But
- 1:00:24Speaker 2: also he needs to wear tatters so his boats look
- 1:00:27Speaker 2: significantly smaller than the biblical Noah's arc described in the
- 1:00:31Speaker 2: Book of Genesis. The biblical arc is said to have
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: measured about five hundred and ten feet long to eighty
- 1:00:36Speaker 2: five to ten feet I'm sorry to eighty five feet
- 1:00:38Speaker 2: wide and fifty one feet tall now in biblical feet,
- 1:00:41Speaker 2: I don't know if we're talking about somebody actual fee
- 1:00:43Speaker 2: and like how big they feet were, But.
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: It's far larger.
- 1:00:47Speaker 2: Than the videos in Noah EBU's videos, But he did
- 1:00:51Speaker 2: gain support and donations from followers online. Many followers said
- 1:00:55Speaker 2: they believed him because parts of Ghana had seen heavy
- 1:00:57Speaker 2: rainfall last year. The bad weather made the flood warnings
- 1:01:01Speaker 2: seem realistic, so he was raising money on gofund me.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: Now here's my thing. If I put in a GoFundMe
- 1:01:08Speaker 2: for the arc, do I get a seat right?
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: Right?
- 1:01:12Speaker 9: Like?
- 1:01:12Speaker 1: How do I cash that in? Or like, you know,
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: it was like wanting to be around.
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: And also I'm sorry if you're holding an iPhone and
- 1:01:20Speaker 2: you're also wearing tatters and I can see your store
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: bought underwear.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: Nothing about this is giving.
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Like like authentic, like at all.
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: Local reports say that Ebu aka Noah has constructed around
- 1:01:34Speaker 2: ten wooden arcs and has also shown livestock in his videos. Yeah,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: he has just been a carpenter babes like. And also
- 1:01:41Speaker 2: I'm not getting on a wooden arc. I barely want
- 1:01:43Speaker 2: to get on a metal plane these days. Okay, And
- 1:01:47Speaker 2: this is the arc that he's built.
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: Now, I don't know if he built this alone.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: At least we know the moneymust be going somewhere because
- 1:01:52Speaker 2: the arc is kind of Now, is he putting wheels
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: on the bottom, because how are we getting these to
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: the ocean?
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: Oh? Oh, those people work for.
- 1:02:01Speaker 4: Are these people makinglf in front of him?
- 1:02:03Speaker 1: Oh?
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: He just put an image of himself in front of
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: other people like he's almost pretending that he's there. And
- 1:02:11Speaker 2: it says thousands traveled to Ghana for Noah's ark flood
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: warning whoa now did they or does he just have
- 1:02:18Speaker 2: video of people walking who look like they may or
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: may not be good name? Because all he gave us
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: was a video with large printed text on top. That's
- 1:02:26Speaker 2: not a real source, y'all. That's not a real source.
- 1:02:28Speaker 2: Tell your auntie, tell you're aties. And then the other
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: thing that he did was he inserted a photo of
- 1:02:33Speaker 2: himself that's not moving clearly and it's clearly clipped out
- 1:02:37Speaker 2: from the other photo from his iPhone. And then there's
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: video of people walking in the background of his photo
- 1:02:42Speaker 2: is just stationary in the.
- 1:02:43Speaker 3: Corner, like, sir, are you follow sir?
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: What do you mean?
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: That's like if I posted a video of a concert
- 1:02:50Speaker 2: and the whole crowd is moving, it's just a stationary photo.
- 1:02:53Speaker 4: And be like sold out crowd today it's me at
- 1:02:56Speaker 4: the concert, like.
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: Like I'm not there, what like push your finger down?
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: And so.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: His posts frequently show him fasting, praying, and wearing that
- 1:03:10Speaker 2: zackcloth and tatters while warning of.
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: An impending apocalypse.
- 1:03:15Speaker 2: Critics did point out that in the Bible itself, God
- 1:03:17Speaker 2: actually promises never to pull the apocalyptic flood move again.
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: The rainbow we see after a storm is supposed to
- 1:03:25Speaker 2: symbolize that promise. If God is going to go world
- 1:03:30Speaker 2: ending mode again, he said he'd do it with fire.
- 1:03:33Speaker 1: According to the Bible, you guy said the flood.
- 1:03:36Speaker 2: My badge'll okay, Now give him a rainbow and a
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: puzzel gold after the rain Okay, so they.
- 1:03:41Speaker 1: Can chill out. Okay, we ain't going a floods.
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: All again, but I will Yeah, but we'll fire.
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: I don't know, like it sounds like, no, you need
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: to get some client like fire retardant fits or something like.
- 1:03:55Speaker 9: So.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: Other critics have claimed that ebu Ako aka Noah use
- 1:03:59Speaker 2: this his donated by his followers, intended for the ARC
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: Project to purchase a ninety thousand dollars mercedespens.
- 1:04:06Speaker 1: Oh what.
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: That photo floating around these images is killing me. It's
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: absolutely killing.
- 1:04:16Speaker 1: You. Better not get your ass out of that car.
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: He wo shit, Joe, you told us we need to
- 1:04:22Speaker 2: get on a wooden boat, but you're driving German engineering.
- 1:04:26Speaker 3: Be for real, driving five miles an hour.
- 1:04:29Speaker 2: You trust the Carnival cruise, but you told but you,
- 1:04:32Speaker 2: you and Satan's metal box. So obviously, a biblical flood
- 1:04:38Speaker 2: did not occur on Christmas Day twenty twenty five. Iboo
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: now says the flood has been postponed indefinitely due to prayer.
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: He said, I was fasting, I was praying. I had
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: two skinny cows that were.
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: Camera shy, and then I got this Mercedes, so you know,
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: we had to hold.
- 1:04:56Speaker 2: Off that flood go fundy and God finally picked up
- 1:04:59Speaker 2: on the main line and was like, hello, oh y'all,
- 1:05:02Speaker 2: don't want no more flood.
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: You know what, don't even worry about the flood. I'm
- 1:05:05Speaker 1: a postponent.
- 1:05:06Speaker 3: I saw you and everything, so yeah, I'm gonna hold
- 1:05:08Speaker 3: off on it.
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: I also love that he said indefinitely, because then he's
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: not saying that it's gonna end. He didn't say the
- 1:05:14Speaker 2: flood's not happening. He said indefinitely, So if a later
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: date comes to mind. Yeah, then the flood back on.
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: That's so crazy, man.
- 1:05:26Speaker 4: I wonder how much money he raised on the golfunmi iyes.
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: And he got more than one arcs and he at
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: least got enough wood for one arc brief and we
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: only see a part of the arc in that. For
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: all we know, that's a boat that he puts apply
- 1:05:44Speaker 2: with on in the corner and just walked past half
- 1:05:47Speaker 2: of it and was like cut the camera right there.
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: We don't know, And how do you feel about, Oh.
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: That's a scam? Come on?
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, although how did we ever know he might
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: have been?
- 1:06:07Speaker 1: For all we know, he could have stopped. We don't know.
- 1:06:11Speaker 1: I mean personally, ib No.
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: I would be more on the side of your scam
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: if you really like stuck with it, Like get in
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: a video with a bunch of people traveling and gott
- 1:06:20Speaker 2: and get that footage.
- 1:06:21Speaker 1: Do the legwork, you know what I.
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: Mean, Like have a boat that has access to the
- 1:06:25Speaker 2: water where the tatters, but don't have modern clothing underneath,
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: and definitely don't be holding the iPhone sixteen Like yeah.
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: The stripe boxers.
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: He was giving me fast thing Luke's though he looked
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: like a little skin tea like maybe he was fast.
- 1:06:39Speaker 4: Yeah, but we didn't see him like he didn't look like,
- 1:06:41Speaker 4: you know, sitting down, no energy. He's walking around the
- 1:06:44Speaker 4: cows and look at you get the camera and going.
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: He ain't getting a little mad at the cows. They
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: keep chasing him, like I need to be individuals. Stop
- 1:06:50Speaker 2: moving over there, best got dirt. I only can be
- 1:06:53Speaker 2: in this ranch for ten more minutes.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: Come on, I love if these were nature scammers.
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: He's like, I'm gonna be in the poop and the
- 1:07:04Speaker 2: ship and I'm going to tell you we need an arc.
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: And then we got you know, Amelia and Arthur over here,
- 1:07:10Speaker 2: like we're going to poison the trees since they're all
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: just kind of like natural scams. Let's spread some stage everybody,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: you know. Page after hearing this, thank you so much
- 1:07:19Speaker 2: for being here.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: We always ask on this podcast, where would you like
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: to be found? Anything with a plug, any socials.
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: It could be anything, Yeah, just total creeper.
- 1:07:29Speaker 4: Please watch my one hour Hulu special uh called Damn
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: Yes, watch Damn That's crazy because we don't know.
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: Damn that's crazy.
- 1:07:38Speaker 4: Yes on Hulu and then please donate to my go
- 1:07:42Speaker 4: fund me. I'm trying to build an arc, y'all, because
- 1:07:43Speaker 4: the flood is coming.
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: Damn, that's crazy. Congregation.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: You can follow me in d I v A l
- 1:07:50Speaker 2: A c I DVA Lacy on our platforms. You can
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: follow me Lacey mostly on TikTok. You can follow for
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: to see all of the tatters and the images that
- 1:07:56Speaker 2: we've shown you today on scam gout spot on Instagram,
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: and if you want to see videos, you can catch
- 1:08:00Speaker 2: little clips on our Scamming Goddess in Sacramming also scam
- 1:08:03Speaker 2: out of TikTok. I'm gonna put all types of things
- 1:08:05Speaker 2: up there, Congregation. You know you can get my book Hulu,
- 1:08:07Speaker 2: you can get scam by some television show, and finally
- 1:08:09Speaker 2: go and touch on Hulu.
- 1:08:10Speaker 1: You can stream it right now, Congregation, I really want
- 1:08:14Speaker 1: to get y'all out there, and I want you to
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: stay gardening.
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: Okay, everyone has a green thumb, and if you have
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: a brown thumb, use that for plant murder. Or if
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: you have a brown thumb, get walk around and some
- 1:08:30Speaker 2: caw do do and maybe build an arc cause damn,
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: that's crazy on Hulu right.
- 1:08:35Speaker 1: Now, dam Goddess.
- 1:08:40Speaker 2: Scam got his Stars and it's hosted by Me Lacy
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: mostly aka Scam Goddess.
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: Our producer is.
- 1:08:46Speaker 2: Jessica cis Neros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia.
- 1:08:50Speaker 2: Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle Stay
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: Skimming