Latest / Off The Bench / Hour Three | Nick Underhill, Saints Roster Talk & Shough vs. Rattler

Transcript

Hour Three | Nick Underhill, Saints Roster Talk & Shough vs. Rattler · Off The Bench

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the Bench with Jacob Hester
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: and Matt Flynn.
• 0:05
  Speaker 2: Camesday Hester and Hester got it five from.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each other on.
• 0:12
  Speaker 2: The air, there's Brock Control the.
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Live from the Raising Kine studio.
• 0:20
  Speaker 3: It's off the bench, all right, welcome back in our
• 0:44
  Speaker 3: number three of oh t B. I just realized that
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: it's Tuesday at uh at nine.
• 0:52
  Speaker 4: Oh so I got a call Nick. Yeah, I'm on holidays.
• 0:56
  Speaker 5: I'm on holiday too.
• 0:57
  Speaker 4: It feels like what's our Thursday technic?
• 1:00
  Speaker 6: I know.
• 1:02
  Speaker 5: So we're gonna have our gut Nick Underhill, New Orleans.
• 1:04
  Speaker 5: That football? Did we all forget? Maybe he's nine, always
• 1:12
  Speaker 5: been nine? Yeah? Saints fifteen Monday.
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: All right, the Saints, Saints, Saints. This off season should
• 1:28
  Speaker 3: be pretty intriguing for the old New Orleans Saints. There's
• 1:35
  Speaker 3: so many needs. Yeah, there's no you can't win this offseason.
• 1:40
  Speaker 3: There's no way to win the off season for the Saints.
• 1:44
  Speaker 3: You can be like, oh, that's a good move, but
• 1:46
  Speaker 3: will we make a good move?
• 1:50
  Speaker 6: I got Nick?
• 1:51
  Speaker 5: All right, let's go to the phones.
• 1:52
  Speaker 3: Now we've got Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dots Football joining
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: us to talk.
• 1:57
  Speaker 5: New Orleans Saints. Yes, that New Orleans Saints. Nicholas, what's
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: up brother, that we be doing?
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm a consumer of the show as well
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: as a contributor. I'm a little hurt. I'm a little hurt.
• 2:09
  Speaker 5: Oh what wow? Forgetting it was Tuesday?
• 2:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, a little bit, A little bit. I
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: mean I bet no though, so I guess we're even.
• 2:16
  Speaker 7: So yeah.
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cold.
• 2:20
  Speaker 3: When I say I had literally no idea that today
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: was Tuesday.
• 2:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, like no idea holiday week.
• 2:30
  Speaker 3: Look, we're in coaching rumor pergat. I mean, we got
• 2:33
  Speaker 3: a foot out the door. We don't have to work
• 2:34
  Speaker 3: on Thursday and Friday. Nick, that's on me. I'll pat
• 2:36
  Speaker 3: my chest. I'll pat my chest.
• 2:38
  Speaker 5: That's on me. Gotta be better, gotta be better. Uh,
• 2:42
  Speaker 5: there's a lot of got to be better for the Saints.
• 2:45
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, man, I all jokes aside, Like I felt
• 2:49
  Speaker 3: good about this game. I'm like, I look out, I
• 2:51
  Speaker 3: know Kirk Thuggans is playing, and that's actually probably better
• 2:54
  Speaker 3: than Pinnix at this point.
• 2:55
  Speaker 5: But you're at home.
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: You got some juice from the last game, you got
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: a bye week, You're going to be ready for this game,
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: and my, ow my, was I wrong. I thought that
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: game was going to go completely different than it did.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Nick, Yeah, I'm with you. I was a little bit
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: surprised they came out and looked so flat again to
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: start the game. I mean, there's just stuff here that
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: I just you know, I think we're starting to reach
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: one where it just feels like it's probably not going
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: to get fixed. You know.
• 3:22
  Speaker 7: I don't like, I don't like a lot of what
• 3:23
  Speaker 7: they're doing right now.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know where I want to start rinting. But
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm curious. So you guys think about
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: on this too, Like.
• 3:31
  Speaker 7: It's kind of inconceivable to me that you're.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Trying to find out what you got with your young
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: quarterback and you line up fifteen times in the red
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: zone and your rookie quarterback doesn't get a single red
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: zone passing attempt the whole game. Like, there's a lot
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: of guys that are great between the twenties, like Jimmy
• 3:49
  Speaker 2: Garoppolo and Drew Brees basically have the same exact numbers
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: quarterback rating, completion percent the yearge per attempt, touchdowns, interception
• 3:59
  Speaker 2: ratio between the twenties, and then you get to the
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: last twenty and Drew takes off to another stratus here
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: and Jimmy Groppolo goes to the other direction, Like you.
• 4:07
  Speaker 7: Got to find out if you got a Drew or
• 4:09
  Speaker 7: a Jimmy, Like I don't get it, Like it's just
• 4:12
  Speaker 7: kind of.
• 4:12
  Speaker 2: You need to evaluate this stuff.
• 4:13
  Speaker 7: And it just doesn't like some of the stuff they're.
• 4:17
  Speaker 2: Doing, just like it as a philosophy doesn't fully add
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: up to me. Like you're you're getting guys on the
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: field for development, You're you're cycling in Danny Stutzman, you're
• 4:28
  Speaker 2: trading RASHIII, you're Grant and Brandon Cooks's release, like all
• 4:31
  Speaker 2: these things signal, rebuild, develop, evaluation, and then like at
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: the most important spot, like you're just gripping so tight
• 4:39
  Speaker 2: to what is he thirty five? A thirty five year
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: old player that's thirty six year old. I don't know
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: what he is whatever, whatever it is, he's probably not
• 4:45
  Speaker 2: gonna be on your team next year, So like let
• 4:48
  Speaker 2: let him throw the ball down there a couple of times,
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: like yeah, run it from the walmat, taste them that whatever.
• 4:53
  Speaker 2: Like that. That's fine, But like I think you got
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: to cycle in a couple a couple of plates just
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: to see if he can like perform in these tie
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: levers to situations.
• 5:00
  Speaker 7: And I go so far as to say that this
• 5:02
  Speaker 7: isn't even.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: Like results space for me, Like I think an incompletion
• 5:06
  Speaker 2: from Tyler Shuck could potentially carry more value than a
• 5:09
  Speaker 2: positive play that from Tasom in that area the field,
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: because he can learn from it and grow. And I
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: think that's really what it should be about. But it's
• 5:15
  Speaker 2: just weird that, like all of a sudden, like like
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: in some areas, like you're pressing so hard, but then
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: on the other like you're still sticking with the kicker
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: who's already missed six kicks, he misses two more, and
• 5:26
  Speaker 2: like over here you're fine with sacrificing points in the
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: spirit of development, but over here with the quarterback, you aren't.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it doesn't It just doesn't make sense
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: to me as a philosophy.
• 5:35
  Speaker 8: To your point, it's the there's two there's conflicting philosophies
• 5:40
  Speaker 8: in the game. Because in one hand, you're saying, we're
• 5:42
  Speaker 8: trying to win the game, because I think this Taysom
• 5:44
  Speaker 8: hillpackage gives us the best best chance of pick up
• 5:46
  Speaker 8: a first down or score a touchdown. We're not trying
• 5:49
  Speaker 8: to necessarily do develop somebody who thinking be good. But
• 5:52
  Speaker 8: on the kicking game, you're like, we're not trying to
• 5:55
  Speaker 8: win games because we don't care if he misses. We
• 5:57
  Speaker 8: want to see what we got in the kicker. So
• 6:00
  Speaker 8: it's completely conflicting ideologies, which is wild to me, Like what,
• 6:04
  Speaker 8: like where is the disconnect from whatever the powers would be,
• 6:08
  Speaker 8: the owner of the GM, the head coach, Like why
• 6:12
  Speaker 8: isn't that making more sense?
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: It blows my mind. And that's all I want is
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: like for everything they're doing to paint one picture, you're
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: moving one direction signify I.
• 6:22
  Speaker 8: Think, I think it would be fine with one way
• 6:24
  Speaker 8: or the other. If you're trying to win the games, fine,
• 6:27
  Speaker 8: or if you're trying to get ready for the future
• 6:28
  Speaker 8: or see what you got, then that's a totally different philosophy,
• 6:31
  Speaker 8: Like just pick one or the other.
• 6:32
  Speaker 6: But they're doing two different things.
• 6:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and if that's the case, and like maybe you
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have granted the release to Brandan Cooks and you
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: know some of this other stuff where it's just like yeah,
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: that makes sense, Like, yeah, you probably shouldn't be here,
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: you probably should be looking for for the future. Brandon
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: Cooks probably doesn't fit this.
• 6:48
  Speaker 7: But and again, like I'm okay with.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: Some of the taste some stuff like you get to
• 6:52
  Speaker 2: the one, no big deal to me. I don't even
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: really like, you know, the Taysom runs all I get
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: in the in the midfield area because like they don't
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: really do anything to help your your quarterback. Like it's
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: like me and triple A battle over this all the time,
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: and he's like, well, it's the same as a handle.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: I argue that it isn't because you can't like run
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: play action off it. You aren't doing any looks off
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: of that. You aren't doing it's just literally trying to
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: get yards without shuck and there's no benefit to him
• 7:17
  Speaker 2: on it. But especially like done in the red zone,
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: those high leverage areas. And they were kind of doing
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: the same thing to Rattler, like we were talking about
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: I can't remember what game it was, but.
• 7:26
  Speaker 7: It Taysom came in, he scored a touch on it.
• 7:28
  Speaker 2: Like I hated that. Like I hated it because like
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: the whole time.
• 7:31
  Speaker 7: Leading into it, we're like, yeah, we got to find.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: Out what Rattler can do in the red zone, like
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: something stuff looks good, but he needs to show growth
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: here and like that's going to be what determined success
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: or failure for him. And like off the field he
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: goes and he doesn't have the chance, And it's just
• 7:45
  Speaker 2: what is this season about? Like is it is it?
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: Is it wins over everything?
• 7:48
  Speaker 7: Or is it the other thing?
• 7:49
  Speaker 2: Is everything else you're doing except for that one thing
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: is painting a different picture. So yeah, just one philosophy.
• 7:55
  Speaker 7: And I can get my head around it and then.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: I'll evaluate it through that. But I just don't want
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: to be com used of what I'm looking at.
• 8:01
  Speaker 8: You got to you gotta be careful too, Like if
• 8:03
  Speaker 8: you're because from a quarterback play all year, Yeah, I
• 8:06
  Speaker 8: would say Chuck and Spencer are both played very comparable. Right,
• 8:10
  Speaker 8: It's like everybody like it's not their fault, like either
• 8:14
  Speaker 8: one of them were saying it's not the quarterback position,
• 8:16
  Speaker 8: but like, yeah, you get it, you're not winning games.
• 8:18
  Speaker 8: But like Saints got to be careful, Like if they
• 8:20
  Speaker 8: think that Shuck could be their guy of getting the
• 8:22
  Speaker 8: same stigma that Rattler's getting a being what two and
• 8:25
  Speaker 8: ten or whatever he is of like having a bad
• 8:27
  Speaker 8: losing record, then all of a sudden Saints fans and
• 8:29
  Speaker 8: people are like, well, I don't want that.
• 8:30
  Speaker 6: I've already seen it. I've already seen what he can do.
• 8:32
  Speaker 8: He's only won one game and he's played started eight
• 8:34
  Speaker 8: or nine times, like the same thing's gonna happen. It's
• 8:37
  Speaker 8: like it's such an unfair comparison for Chuck and Rattler
• 8:40
  Speaker 8: because of the way that they're playing, Like you're not
• 8:43
  Speaker 8: getting a true look at who that they could be one.
• 8:47
  Speaker 7: Hundred percent, and like that that's the whole thing. Like
• 8:49
  Speaker 7: we could be sitting here at the end of the
• 8:50
  Speaker 7: season and be like, man, I don't know, Like there's
• 8:52
  Speaker 7: so there's.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: Some blind spots here. I didn't see everything I needed
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: to see. The h is terrible in the red zone
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: and look some stuff, but like there was a lot
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: of throwaways at Louisville, Like there's things that I want
• 9:04
  Speaker 2: to see down in that area to field, Like I
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: just don't want to be here January.
• 9:08
  Speaker 7: And it's like, well, I don't.
• 9:09
  Speaker 2: Know, like.
• 9:11
  Speaker 7: Do they have the guy or not?
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: Like it should be a definitive answer. So every opportunity
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: you have to, as they say, collect collect information, Like
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: you need to be collecting that information. So I hope
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: they do something different, but I don't know, Like this
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: is just kind of a messod operation the whole year,
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: and it's I don't know if they're telling us they
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: don't believe in the quarterback or what, but like it's
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: it's just a very weird way to go about business,
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: especially when like it seems like there should be no
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: pressure on them to win games. Like I can't imagine
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: they're sitting up there in the front office and like
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: stepping on his neck right now, I think everybody knows
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: what it is. So just very very very odd to
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: me that that one area just seems to be completely
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: disconnected from the rest of epecture.
• 9:53
  Speaker 8: In the NFL. You cannot lean on. Yeah, I don't
• 9:56
  Speaker 8: trust the quarterback. Look at the Panthers are doing. They
• 9:58
  Speaker 8: can't trust Bryce Young and they still got five wins
• 10:01
  Speaker 8: because they at least still put the ball in this say,
• 10:03
  Speaker 8: and they did it on first down yesterday on the
• 10:04
  Speaker 8: one yard line in the first drive of the game
• 10:07
  Speaker 8: for them, and he does an interception. Like they can't
• 10:09
  Speaker 8: trust that guy, but they still keep doing it, and
• 10:11
  Speaker 8: what going happens?
• 10:12
  Speaker 6: They got at least.
• 10:13
  Speaker 8: Have five wins, yes, and Ratler are better players at
• 10:18
  Speaker 8: Bryce Young.
• 10:19
  Speaker 6: Let's let's let's call it what it.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: Is, one hundred percent like the taste some stuff isn't
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: even working, which makes it even worse. The first play
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: they ran like just completely I don't like. So you're
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna run taste them out.
• 10:31
  Speaker 6: To the right.
• 10:31
  Speaker 7: You're gonna have the bon bley on the only route
• 10:33
  Speaker 7: on the play.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: And if everybody doesn't bite on, Taysom and Davon is
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: wide open in the in the back corner of the
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: end zone. The play fails. Like I don't even understand, So.
• 10:41
  Speaker 7: Like, let me, let me see shuck, just sit back there.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: And just you know, go through three reasons, see you
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: can get the ball out or something like. It just
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: feels it just I don't know, but I just I
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: can't stay on watching. It drives me crazy, all right.
• 10:54
  Speaker 3: So we got to ask you about the the kicker
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: situation as well. I mean, groupie, just look it is
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: what it is, not a good NFL kicker.
• 11:01
  Speaker 5: He misses yet again.
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: And so you try a couple of kickers out justin
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: Tucker and Cade York and obviously you know both those
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: names in Louisiana are going to bring headlines for different reasons.
• 11:12
  Speaker 5: What's the latest day with the kicking situation?
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Oh god, please Kate York Like it's two and nine, Like,
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: you don't need to you don't need to introduce anything that. Look,
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: I think right now the Stints are a very hard
• 11:24
  Speaker 2: team to like. Their fans, you know, they they they're
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: You're asking a lot of them, like to ride through
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: this to show up to cheer.
• 11:30
  Speaker 7: It is like the last thing you want to do.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: And look, I know, I.
• 11:33
  Speaker 7: Know some people are going to care and some people aren't.
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: In their allegations, nothing's with the court like blanket the
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: whole thing, But like forcing anybody to sit down and
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: be like, do I feel okay about this guy scoring
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: points in a two and nine season? Like, it just
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: doesn't It doesn't make sense. I don't understand even getting
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: in the vicinity of something that can bring a negative
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: headline when you're two and nine, if you want to
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: sell your soul to the devil, if you're the broncos
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: in you're nine and two and you want to make
• 11:59
  Speaker 2: a wild time, I think, I guess, But like I
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: feel like one of the benefits of being a bad team.
• 12:05
  Speaker 7: Is there's you don't have to do right of that,
• 12:08
  Speaker 7: Like you're two and.
• 12:09
  Speaker 2: Nine, just stay away from it.
• 12:10
  Speaker 7: Sign the twenty four he's thirty six in here, Like
• 12:12
  Speaker 7: where are you going with this? Like, so you're gonna
• 12:15
  Speaker 7: sign a guy that.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: Brings negative headlines? I hit seventy three percent of his
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: kicks last year. Wasn't even you know, a high level
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: player groupies at sixty nine? I mean sure, justin Tucker,
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: you can tell me he comes back and doesn't miss
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: a kick the rest of the year. Great, let him
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: do it somewhere else. Like I don't understand getting around
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: this one either, Like it's just like why are you
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: doing this?
• 12:34
  Speaker 7: Like it I couldn't believe it.
• 12:37
  Speaker 2: I was. I was shocked, like just on the level
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: of I don't know man, like you're gonna do something
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: like that that feels kind of gross. Just it just
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense in this this.
• 12:47
  Speaker 7: Setting at all, Like it just even being.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Taken all emotion out of it, like why like why
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: are you doing this? He's not twenty four, he's thirty six.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: You're two three years away, Like how long do you
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: expect him to be around? So like what is what
• 13:01
  Speaker 2: is the value that? And then on Sunday you.
• 13:03
  Speaker 7: Have a kicker out there, you're willing to let him
• 13:05
  Speaker 7: miss two more. We had been talking all year, Why like.
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Why are they letting this guy go with this? All
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, it's so dire that.
• 13:11
  Speaker 7: You're you're willing to sell your soul.
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: For a higher quarterback. I don't, man, I just don't.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 13:17
  Speaker 7: I'm I'm I'm a little bit lost.
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: With what they're doing right now.
• 13:20
  Speaker 8: So the Saints out of the opportunity to sign the
• 13:22
  Speaker 8: person who we think they should or the person that
• 13:25
  Speaker 8: we think they definitely shouldn't, so we're going to So
• 13:27
  Speaker 8: they're signing justin Tucker is basically what we're saying. They
• 13:33
  Speaker 8: got to do the right thing or the wrong thing,
• 13:35
  Speaker 8: so Tucker's gonna be kicking this week.
• 13:38
  Speaker 7: I just felt like, like why, Like you created a
• 13:40
  Speaker 7: circus around a workout too, Like I just don't man, like.
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: Like what's happening here?
• 13:46
  Speaker 7: I don't like they could have they could have controlled
• 13:48
  Speaker 7: the flow of information, so it doesn't come out until
• 13:51
  Speaker 7: till Tuesday.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: When nobody's around and at least it's like quiet, And
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I don't get it, Like it just seems very very
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: shortsighted to me. But yeah, man, I hope they go
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: with Kaid, Like he's twenty four.
• 14:02
  Speaker 7: Even take away everything else you taught.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Me, and look the Caid's career kicking percentage of seventy
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: three point three. That's what Tucker was to the decimal
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: point last year. Just take everything else out of it, thirty.
• 14:15
  Speaker 7: Six versut twenty four.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: I'd rather find out, you know, if the twenty four
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: year old can can get it. He was a fourth
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: round pike at one point, right, Like, go find out
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: if he can. Yeah, like, see spend the year evaluating
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: that and see if.
• 14:29
  Speaker 7: That talent and it kind of like, you know, take.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: Some pressure out of the situation, see if you can
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: figure it out. Like that, that's what the season should
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: be about. It should be about finding out if young
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: talent can do what they do. That makes way more sense.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: But like it's two puller opposites here, So I don't know,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I hope they go with York.
• 14:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah they do, you like traditionally know like how the
• 14:48
  Speaker 8: Saints operate their their player workouts because I'm just like
• 14:52
  Speaker 8: every other thing, I'm sure they have people working out
• 14:54
  Speaker 8: every single week like just to either be on the
• 14:57
  Speaker 8: list or you know, backup plan for a practice squad
• 14:59
  Speaker 8: or what. I just remember there's always people working out.
• 15:02
  Speaker 8: Now this one's a little bit more public because they're
• 15:04
  Speaker 8: obviously looking for another kicker. But we were kind of
• 15:07
  Speaker 8: talking about it earlier in the show. If you know,
• 15:10
  Speaker 8: sometimes it's not all It doesn't always depend on who
• 15:13
  Speaker 8: wins the workout. So like if a traditional person just saying,
• 15:17
  Speaker 8: all right, they brought two kickers in to try out
• 15:19
  Speaker 8: for the team, whoever makes the most kicks in that
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: one workout gets signed. Do you know if like the
• 15:24
  Speaker 8: Saints operate in that manner or is it just part
• 15:27
  Speaker 8: of the evaluation process. They're just going to see physically
• 15:30
  Speaker 8: how you look, how your you know, the leg angle
• 15:33
  Speaker 8: is or whatever it is. Or are they just going
• 15:35
  Speaker 8: out and say, all right, y'all used to get thirty kicks,
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: whoever makes the US gets signed.
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's more of the evaluation
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: part of it. That they do much shoer workouts than
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: they used to. Like when Peyton l there used to
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: be like twelve guys every week, like he was just
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: constantly looking at him. It's kind of toned down the.
• 15:52
  Speaker 7: Last couple of years.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: This year, I think it has been the fewest that
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I've seen. They haven't brought in any specialist at all
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: so far this season. You know, in a in a
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: in a more regular if.
• 16:04
  Speaker 7: It was a different set of names, kid.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: You work in a different thirty six year old kicker,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: my thought process would be like, Okay, they're they're They're
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: probably more interested in Kate and they just want to
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: see how he holds up against like the pressure of
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: having somebody else next to him, because it's kind of
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: been a little bit shaky, and just see where his
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: confidence is at. That's probably how I would try to
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: read through that. But this this one feels like, you know,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: it's kind of going to bring him in, let them compete.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: It kind of feels like it kind of feels like
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: to me, like the end of the line for Group you. Now,
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I do wonder like, if if you know the way
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: this reaction has been, if if they go back to
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: GROUPY to avoid the pr pitfall, if or doesn't come
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: in have a good workout. I don't know, I like it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: What would they actually be willing to sign justin Tucker
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: after kind of seeing out how things have gone in
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. It would be fascinating if
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: if they just said at it and did it, like
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I would be kind of surprised by it. But you know,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: sometimes they don't care about that stuff, and you know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: I think I think one of my biggest criticisms is that, like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I think they should sometimes scare a little bit more
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: about how those things, especially when you are a two
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: win team, you know. But from a business perspective, like
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: anything that's alienating people from going into that building and
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: buying a fifteen dollars beer and whatever the ticket is, like,
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: I think it's a bad decision because again, they're not
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: easy to like, and then I don't think they're gonna
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: be easy to like for a few years, so I like,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doing things that are like needlessly alienating
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and polarizing. But yeah, I mean usually I think they
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: come in and you know, yeah, it's evaluating, it's gathering
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: the information. I don't think it's as rigid as like,
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: you know, gonna play a game of horse and whoever
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: you know gets the e first is out of here.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know this one. This one's unique
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to me though, because two very different people, and.
• 17:53
  Speaker 7: It just feels like.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: When you bring justin Tucker in it. It feels like
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: you're kind of already making a decision before you even
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: look at him, like are you okay with this? Or
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you signing off on everything? And if you're doing all that,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: like you're it just feels like I don't know, Like
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I would assume you're intending to sign that player because
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: you know it's going to create a headline, and the
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: headline's going to have damaging effects no matter what you
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: do after it. So I'm interested to see how it
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: plays out.
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: I guess I just don't get it.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: Like typically kickers don't get a very long leash in
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: the NFL, certainly not the one that Gruby's been given
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: in New Orleans, Like and that was ten years ago.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Like you look at today's kickers like there, it's crazy.
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: They're like automatic from fifty plus now. I mean, you're
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: just having a different brand of kicker than you've ever
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: had before in the NFL.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: Like I don't care who it.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: Is, like the guy that you had in on the
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: international deal during camp, like if you want to bring
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: him back in, like whoever it might be, Like Nick,
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: we just don't see kickers get this kind of opportunity
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: to be bad at their job.
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: I don't does he have incriminating photos? There's somebody that
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: we don't know about.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Like my third eye was way too open on this one,
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: but like there's a piece of me. It's like, man,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: the punters thinks and the kicker can't make kicks. So
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they like low key quietly just sitting back and being
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: okay with this because it increases their odds to lose
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: and it's not obvious, and losing right now might be
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: better because you might get a better draft pick. Like, Okay,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: we're gonna lose a field position battle and we're not
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: gonna get these three points, but we're gonna be able
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: to watch offense drop down get him it. But like
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: that obviously isn't the case, because now they're in like
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: full on panic mode about about the kicker. So I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: don't get it, and it look it's not even like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: he has a big leg. Like his career long is
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: fifty seven and like beyond fifty is kind of like
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: you're praying he makes it. So riding this out for
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: a guy that it's.
• 19:45
  Speaker 7: Like all right, well that you know he can he.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Can conceivably hit from you know, sixty.
• 19:50
  Speaker 7: No, that isn't even the case. So it's just very
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: it's very confusing how it goes from.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Like we're totally comfortable with this to we're going to
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: bring in the against pr Nightmarae Simes, Deshaun Watson to
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: take a look at him, and he's not even on
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the same age trajectory as the rest of our roster.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Very very weird.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: It goes back to what Mat was.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Saying before, like the philosophy is like they just aren't
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: They aren't adding up. They aren't adding up right now?
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: All right?
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Nick, you the man.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: We appreciate your time as always, Nick Underhill, New Orleans
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: stuff football, good enough to join us every single week here, Nick,
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: we appreciate the time.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: Brother.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'll be by the phone next Tuesday, whether you
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: guys call it or not.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Hey, we'll do it and we'll be on time. Maybe, Nick,
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: we appreciate it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Oh God, Sae it easy. Happy, all of this all right.
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: You as well. Grupy's got the photos. All right, we'll
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: take a break more OTB when we come back.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: Go to KTZ Blinds dot com. Kt o z Blinds
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: dot Com is the website and that is a website
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: for katys and tears and outdoor living since two thousand
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: and four. Blind shade shutters, drapes, screens, exterior motorized screens,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Pergola's aluminum shutters. One of my forgetting awnings. Patio covers. Yeah,
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: they literally they've been it all. When we're ad kate Zy,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: you listen to me, it's the first one answer. Draperies
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: said that as well. Bat Rouge Lafayette on the North Shore,
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: they have got you covered. Check out their service area
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: on their website. If you listen to us in Alexandria,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: chances are they're gonna be able to help you out
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: up there as well.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Go to the website. Kt oz blind dot com.
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: Kyze Interiors and Outdoor Levin if you're looking for, you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 8: some tailored window treatment. They got a solution for every
• 21:35
  Speaker 8: single room, every single style you can imagine. They got
• 21:38
  Speaker 8: a trusted the local team with twenty five plus years
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: of experiments. They complimentary installation and award winning crass buts
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: go check them out.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Kittzy Blinds dot.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Com two thousand and seven. Schamps Purple and Gold to
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: the core. This is off the bench with Hester and
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Flynn Baton Rougees go to for all things Louisiana sports.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back OTV one are my You got
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: our friends over at Pala.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: When your project demands precision experience in a team that
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: gets the job done the right time the first time
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: you call Pala. More than fifty years, Pala has been
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: trusted leader across the Goal South and industrial construction, maintenance,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: fabrication and specialty services. You can learn more at palagroup
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: dot com and you can see why the industry leaders
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: rely on Pala to keep their operations moving.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Again, that website is going to be Pala dot com.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Pala built on safety, backed by experience, and driven by results.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I missed your note inside of our document here, you said,
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: ask Nick about Brandon Ayu.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: What about it?
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: They released odds on Ayuk's next team and the same
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: suction pretty high. Ooh hich that was a That was
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: a bad contract extension. The forty nine ers gave him.
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: They gave him all the moneies and he's not a one.
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: He never was, but I guess they figured that out.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: So of course the Saints are gonna go. Yes, probably
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: a worse contract.
• 24:01
  Speaker 9: So of course the Saints would be like, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 9: it's better than a one two two's bring them in again.
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: They're like, how can we create the worst roster? But
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: also like how many games can we win with this
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: terrible roster?
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he's gonna be paid a pretty into wherever he goes,
• 24:21
  Speaker 9: and he hasn't played in like a year.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Forty nine ers or it's odd because they're good, but
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: they make some wild decisions in who they draft and
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: who they sign.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: They're good at late round drafting, they're just not good
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: at the top. Like look at Juwan Jennings. He looks
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: like a really good receiver. Yeah, they didn't draft him high. No,
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: you drafted Brandon Ayukai and he's gonna be out the
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: door in three years. Same thing with Trey Lance and
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: Brock Party. They're just the back end of their draft
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: has saved them.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: They make some wild choices. I'll tell you that they're
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: good though they're still good. I don't know how.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: M mccork you okay for there?
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's triggered, that's going through it.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Uh Hey, JJ McCarthy stinks. He's bad. He's bad.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: Put him away.
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: That's a that's a weird, that's all. That's an entirely
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: weird situation happening over there.
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: You know, we talked in the off season, Kevin O'Connell man.
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: He's like the QB whisper. He makes anybody look good,
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: turns out o JJ McCarthy.
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, not JJ McCarthy. He looks bad, mechanically bad, decision
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: making bad. He looks out of place. He needs about
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: five red shirt years in the NFL. I heard someone
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: talking yesterday in the media. They said there's there's a
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: weird situation around JJ McCarthy. So Jim Harbaald coached him
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: and coached another first round in college named Andrew Luck.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Two first round guys.
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: Well, in college, the offense went through Andrew Luck, right,
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: he threw the ball all the time, every big situation
• 26:09
  Speaker 8: and college with JJ McCarthy, he the offense did not
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: go through JJ McCarthy. They were a run first type
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: team instead of a past first team. Both first round quarterbacks.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: But I don't know Jim Harball knows quarterbacks. Is is
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: that kind of a pre indictment on JJ McCarthy. Was
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: he over a drafted as of right now?
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: He was having this big like argument in the chat
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: with everybody right now, like I'm just the Saints be
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: to like spend a positive note on the Saints. I
• 26:43
  Speaker 8: think they got two quarterbacks that are pretty good, and
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: both of these quarterbacks could be a starter in multiple
• 26:52
  Speaker 8: Like they could be a started for the Vikings right now,
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: which isn't saying a lot because JJ has been really bad.
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: They could be a starter for where I think they're
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: both better than Bryce Young. Yeah in Carolina, but like
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: I was just telling, like, at least like in Carolina,
• 27:03
  Speaker 8: they still let him go try to be a professional
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: quarterback even though he plays the position very poorly. Sometimes
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: they at least still put the ball in his hand
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: and they make they're taking the ball out of Chuck's
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: hands right now in big time positions situations.
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: But I just I don't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: Think you're at a point right now where you take
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: a first round quarterback. What first round quarterback you take
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: in this year? If you're gonna do something, maybe you
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: trade young quarterbacks for a veteran quarterback if you feel
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: confident in that. Of course, you have to. The roster
• 27:34
  Speaker 8: cannot be built without solidifying your quarterback. I think you've
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: seen enough from both your quarterbacks to know that you've
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: got a pretty good quarterback room.
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: Right now.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: Both those guys play well, they've played the exact same
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: in my opinion. People disagree with me in the chat
• 27:47
  Speaker 8: about that.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: No, I mean you can just look at the numbers.
• 27:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're the same guy right now. Like there's only
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: so much you can do within this offense with the
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: tools that you've been given. People are saying, well, I
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: shock so much, so much better. I just feel it, Like,
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: all right, that's fine, that's great. It's a great reason
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: your fans. You're allowed to feel it. I got it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: But like, just like looking at it, it's the same position.
• 28:10
  Speaker 8: They both kind of move well. They both have good
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: arm strength. Ratler strut with his accuracy a little bit,
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: Shuck has shown we have plenty. I feel like from
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: the little bit he's been given to like continue to
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: see to see what he's got. I solid comment that
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: was like Ratler had more.
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: To work with.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: They're the same team, literally the same team. He has
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: a few more games under his belt than Tyler Shuck does, obviously,
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: but their completion percentage is about the same, like Spencer's
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: is four percent better than Tyler Shucks. They each have
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: one win, like Spencer has five interceptions, Shuck has three.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I really like what Shuck has done.
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: I expect the first game he started and make some
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: good plays on the run, some off schedule plays, really
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: really really good.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: I think they've both shown.
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: I think the quarterback room is what I'm trying to say,
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: is pretty pretty darn.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Healthy right now if you build around it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: I would disagree your last two games from Schuck have
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: been better than any two games from Rattler.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: I don't only that's the case.
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: His first start was really good, and I understand he
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: played a good defense. Last week, Chuck had a lot
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: to be desired. I thought that Chuck build from a
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: clean pocket a lot last week. I really did like.
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: I thought he was really good in the pocket Week one,
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: I thought he kind of took a step back last week.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Yep, JJ those Carson Wentz injured or what LIKEJJ is injured.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: He has a he got a got a phantom concussion.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, but he played the last two games or something
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: or the last game.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: No, well did he play the last k They.
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: Know they just came out with a concussion like yesterday,
• 29:53
  Speaker 8: JJ McCarthy, But they just said they can't pinpoint.
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: Are you talking about Carson Wentz just.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: No.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: I'm asking JJ.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: I think she's asking, like is he her? Is that
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: why he's not playing right now? Because Jay has been
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: so bad, that's what they're saying.
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: They said they don't know when it happened, but he's
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: got concussion like symptoms.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Carson does no JJA. I'm asking if Carson is injured
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: because why they played him.
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: He was a couple of weeks. You know, he got
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: her national game.
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, it was like it was right before JJ came back,
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: because remember they were going to continue to roll with
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: Carson Wentz, but he got hurt, like mid game.
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: They were.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: There was rumors that they were Max Brosber came into
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: the game, Wins came back, then he was unavailable, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: then the timelinees got a matched up. Remember they said
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: McCarthy was healthy. We're still going to hold him out
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: this week for precautionary They still rolled with Wins.
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: Then he got hurt.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Winz had season ending shoulder injury or shoulder surgery
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: in October. So yeah, they're stuck with nine.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Maybe I don't this week he's got a concussion.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: I don't even know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: They're backup Max Brosmer from Minnesota.
• 31:04
  Speaker 8: They should have traded for Raler, right, I think I
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: think they Saints had a tradable asset at least something, right, Max.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: Who Brosmer from UH Minnesota. He was a late round rookie.
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: He went in for Wentz the game, Wentz got hurt
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: and came back in. People liked him at the combine.
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: I mean, he obviously hasn't played much in the NFL.
• 31:26
  Speaker 9: But see what he's got.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: We gotta suit he's got he's got.
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: I mean he took the guy, you know, I mean you.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Got to see what he got. Was shocked.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: But like when the you're in the red zone, we
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: don't need to see what he's got. Let's put Taysom
• 31:39
  Speaker 8: in in this.
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: Case they do have to, which is he's like the
• 31:42
  Speaker 9: only quarterback they have.
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Now, this is wild behavior over there, and.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: Now I don't know which ways up.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: It's like they don't know if they want to be
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: really bad or if they want to try to win
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: or I don't know.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Hey, when I genuinely think they're trying.
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: Hey, let's come back from break and let's look at
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: this passing charge milissue.
• 32:00
  Speaker 5: All right, we'll do it when we come back on OTV.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Off the bench, all right go to gcopnet dot com,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Golf Coast office products in the Vetnuge in New Orleans
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: and Lafayette on the North Shore.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: They are there for you.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: They are your complete office solutions because, as we know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: when you need a document, you need it right then,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: right there.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: You cannot wait on that. It is your lifeline.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Right if you're an engineering firm, a law firm, or university,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: a hospital, you have to have it and you're always
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: going to have that first class service with gcop The Pelicans,
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: the Saints, LSU, they're raging Cajuns.
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: They all trust.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Gcop and you should as well because they are truly
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: the best in the game.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Gcop net dot com.
• 32:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, if you work in an office, it doesn't matter
• 32:43
  Speaker 8: what size, whether it's a hospital, university, whether it's a
• 32:46
  Speaker 8: law firm, or you got a little Cajun basement sitting
• 32:49
  Speaker 8: right above your garage that you're just it's just you. Well,
• 32:52
  Speaker 8: it doesn't matter what size it is. You know, the
• 32:54
  Speaker 8: lifeline of that office is that paperchack. How you how
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: you copy, how you facts, how you scan, how you
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: do all all those things. It is that paper trail.
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: And they are truly the best right here in Louisiana.
• 33:04
  Speaker 8: Go see them at gcop net dot com.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: You're making people mad in the chat here again, Bud.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had a lot of Shuck fans in
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: chat right now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: He just like imagine at one point Tyler Shuck and
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: Lane Kiffin teamed up. Don't I don't even dare ask
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: a question of why. Don't never ask a logical question
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: about those two. I love Shuck. I think it's a
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: really good I think it's some somebody built around. I
• 34:39
  Speaker 8: think Lincoln's is the great coach. You're really happy they
• 34:43
  Speaker 8: fired up. I'm just not a sheep. I'm always gonna
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: ask questions. I love the question.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Why.
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: It's my favorite question in the whole world. Well that's
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: what we were talking by jim Bo. Why you get it
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: to in the Why have a brain? Can't run the football?
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: Why ye want to protect quarterback?
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you completely pass over the middle.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's because you don't ever.
• 35:11
  Speaker 8: Throw coaches playing given as the greatest coach in America.
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: Oh okay, why I agree, he's a great coach.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: But why I did Okay, the last thing before we
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: move on, just because it was a comment. I just
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: think Chuck is going to be better. And this is
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: like I think Spencer Rally Chuck are giving you the
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: same thing, by the way, so this is not like
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: picking one or the other, but it's just funny.
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: I just think Chuck is going to be better. The
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: ball comes out.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Quicker, it appears and is on the mark. I just
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: looked it up the analytics of it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler is third in the NFL in release time
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: among quarterbacks with seventy pass attempts.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: There there was some there was some accuracy, a couple
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: throws here and there at that in big moments. So
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: I'll give him for sure that Yeah, there's those are
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: those are plays that accuracy plays that he's got. But
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: he's also very accurate, especially down the field, like you
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: had a huge pass arm strength. Yeah, they're both giving
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: me the same thing right now. They're giving you as
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: as much as this offense is allowing a quarterback to give.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: That's a great way to put.
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: It, you know.
• 36:18
  Speaker 8: And I think both those quarterbacks are are starting quarterback
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: caliber in the NFL.
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: I really do.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So.
• 36:26
  Speaker 8: I think it's that is good news. Like it is
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: good news. I would think if Saints fans feel that way,
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: because that means you don't have to invest in that quarterback.
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: Build like build around. That's good good stuff.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Before you uh, all right, before you give your passing
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: chart there, we'll reminds you better friends over at Gordon
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: mccernin and injury Attorneys. Get Gordon and get it done.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: It is your EREA code in Louisiana. Fallow about eighty eight,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: eighty eight eighty eight. It's always on nine at get
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: Gordon dot com. There you can have a chat with
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a live agent. It's going to pop up any question
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: you might have. You can check out cases they can
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: for you in the courtroom, pass client results as well,
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: and then you can see what they're doing throughout the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: local communities in Louisiana at Good Gordon's going to be
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: the handle on all major social media incredible bite giveaway
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: they do every single year, always doing big things again.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: From North Louisiana, Shreveport, Monroe, to Beaton Rouge to Alexandria,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: New Orleans, Lafayette, you name it, they've got it covered
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: in Louisiana, Good Gordon and get it Done.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: All right, Tay, you got my computer, all right, So
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: if you're watching along with us here, you're just gonna
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: kind of scroll the internet with me. So we are
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: on this website that gives you passing charts for everybody.
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: I got college, I got professionals. So what we want
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: to do is just want to take a dive into
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: a little bit more of the analytics behind LSU's offense,
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: and then we're going to compare it to some of
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: the best offenses that are playing football today in the
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: in the NFL.
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: Of like, just cut how you attack the field.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: I just want you to take it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: We're gonna go through multiple different games here, Jake, if
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: you want to like van a White for me a
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: little bit. We got a line of scrimmage right here,
• 37:58
  Speaker 8: and so I when do you see passing chart?
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: Can you really see that?
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Go back to the other screen. Yeah, all right, So we.
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: Got I think we got one, two, three, four, five,
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: six passes beyond five yards and I'm given a couple
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: like outside the hash credit as well. Weird situation down
• 38:13
  Speaker 8: here behind the line of scrimmage. You can see how
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: many passes are behind the line of scrimmage. So the
• 38:16
  Speaker 8: fastest way to the end zone is attack in the
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: middle of the field. We've talked about it so many
• 38:21
  Speaker 8: behind the line of screen. Now, we've talked about it
• 38:22
  Speaker 8: all season long about how LSU is not. So this
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: is this past week versus Western Kentucky. What we're gonna
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: do right here, We're gonna go back to week twelve
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: versus Arkansas kind of the same thing. Now, it looks
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: like there's a lot more in the middle of the field,
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: but that is at the line of scrimmage. Are behind
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: so beyond the line of scrimmage, I got one, two, three, four, five.
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: We have thirty seven attempts, so five to thirty seven
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: went between the hashes or in the middle of the
• 38:45
  Speaker 8: field during that game. So let's see, how about we
• 38:48
  Speaker 8: go to a different week. Let's go to let's go
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: to week eight. This was against Vanderbilt. Wow, jeez, all right,
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: So we got one inside the hatch, just beyond the
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: line of scrimmage. Now we got three inside the hashes
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: within five yards. But this is the definition of how
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: to not run an efficient offense. Yeah, will be run
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: offense that is dynamic. Fastest way to the end zone
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: is over the middle of the field. So what I
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: want to do is kind of like I just want
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: to show you what I mean when I taught when
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: I when I think of the best offensive mins, I go,
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: of course to the NFL level. And what I want
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: to show you is, we're going to take a little
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: look at a couple of We're gonna take a look
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: at the Patriots right now. Okay, the Patriots are they
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: have one of the best offensive coordinators in my opinion.
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: Let's go to this past game. Let's see look at
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: the middle.
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: Of the field right here, and so as you can
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: tell the NFL that the hash marks are more narrow,
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: so you kind of get to go a little bit
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: outside of that. Even in the narrow but even in
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: the narrow hash marks, it's more look at. So this
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: is the theme for teams. This is I think this
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: is against the Jets here. So let's go to a
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: week before. All right, that's both weeks. Just look it's
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: it's more equally spread throughout the field. It's not past
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: the numbers, not past not past the hashes. We are
• 40:21
  Speaker 8: attacking the middle of the field. So let's go to
• 40:24
  Speaker 8: a different team. What do you think, who's another team
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: you think of? I always think I think of the
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: Niners when I think of a good offensive coordinator who
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: does a lot, I mean for crying out, well, he
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: took mccorkyl right, made mccorkyl good this year. Let's go
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: to the Niners. Let's go to like, let's go to
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: week ten. They play they played the Rams this game.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: Middle of the field. Yeah, attack looks at Chris Tack
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: looks like a Christmas tree. That's exactly right. You want
• 40:51
  Speaker 8: a passing chart to look like a Christmas tree in
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: my opinion. Let's go let's go to the week before this.
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: Let's go to Week nine. This was against the Giants.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Just attacking.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so these are the best offenses out there, The
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: best offensive mines. The best offense is that is the
• 41:07
  Speaker 8: you attack the middle of the field. That is something
• 41:09
  Speaker 8: LSU has not done this season. So with the coaching change,
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: with all of that, and we can take it like
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: what I didn't do. I didn't pull up lane lane Kiffins.
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: I think I did one and it wasn't actually that
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: much of a difference. They weren't attacking the middle of
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: the field. But I didn't look at all the games.
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: I just that's what I hope for this offense going forward.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: If I took the passing chart last year from what
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: LSU did last year, and it's what a difference that
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: one year can make, which is wild. The same offensive coordinator,
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: a lot of the same weapons, same quarterback, Garrett attacked.
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: That's what Aaron Anderson was so good at. That's why
• 41:43
  Speaker 8: I said before the season, that's why that's why Aaron
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: Anderson had over eight hundred yards, was a leader receiver
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: and did all this because he's really good at that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: He's got high football like Q. He's really good at
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: attacking the middle, finding the zones, finding the open holes,
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: knowing where he is in his assignment, in his route combination.
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: And then you go in to the season with this
• 42:01
  Speaker 8: offensive philosophy. Is just mind blowing to me. Now something, Yeah, sure,
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: there are people running over the middle of field. It's
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: not like everyone's running towards the sideline at all times.
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: It's just not a part of the DNA of this
• 42:12
  Speaker 8: offense and the quarterbacks footwork and the read to go
• 42:14
  Speaker 8: one two three over the middle, one two over the middle.
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: The receivers aren't running the best routes when it comes
• 42:20
  Speaker 8: to seam routes and end routes and all these different things.
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: It's just it's been frustrating to watch. But I wanted
• 42:25
  Speaker 8: to give you just kind of an overview of what
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: I look at when I look at good offenses, is
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: how do they attack that Christmas tree? Look, Yeah, you
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: want to, you want to see some grain towards the
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: sideline on deep balls, but you don't see offenses and
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: good offenses and great quarterbacks taking those shots all the
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: time because they're fifty to fifty balls. They want in
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: the They wanted to get the ball in their playmaker's hands.
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: The short passes, the easy passes. Attack those zones. You
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: got linebackers moving left to right. You got to moving
• 42:51
  Speaker 8: up and down. They are windows, there are holes. You
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: just gotta find them.
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: Hopefully they can find them in Norman, Oklahoma. Haven't found them.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Yet this year. Yeah, do you think they will.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: We'll go to break martb when we.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Come back off the bench.
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: Big news on the river front.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: They'll start downtown ban Rougees here Valleys of Banon Rouge
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: formerly the Bail of bean Rouge. They are opening a
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: brand new land based casino and entertainment complex here in
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: the capital city, coming very very soon and This is
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: a major moment for downtown. This is a new casino,
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: I mean completely redone from top to bottom, twenty five
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: thousand square feet of Vegas al action. And the dining
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: depot has five incredible new restaurants.
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: There.
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: You've got the Draftking sportsbook, you got Pelican Pins bowling.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: You have something for everybody there at the new valleys
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: of Baton Rouge and a fully renovated ten story hotel
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: with two hundred and forty two rooms and luxury suites,
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: even suites overlooking Tiger Stadium.
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they even let Jake and I walk through there
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: with a hardhead on recently. And let me tell you something.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: It is like Baton Rouge. We're getting upgrade with this one.
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: You're talking about a beautiful casino, beautiful sports bar, beautiful restaurants,
• 44:09
  Speaker 8: and a great casina right there.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: Ballets of Baton.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: Rouge from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in OTB.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: I want to remind you about Marucci's Hitter's House and
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the Warehouse Cell. You can shop, save and swing into
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: the holidays with the Warehouse Cell. Big discounts on your
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: favorite gear from Maruchie Pictious Bomb Lizard Skins. The Baton
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Rouge Seal runs November twenty eight through December the fourteenth.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be right there at the Marucci Headquarters Monday
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: through Friday, eleven and six, Saturday, ten to five, Sunday
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: eleven to four, that New Orleans Cell December fifth and six,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Friday from three to eight, Saturday from ten to four.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: And remember you've got incredible gift card bonuses hundred dollars
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: gift card. I spend two fifty fifty dollars swing in
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: two savings at the Hitter's House Warehouse Seal.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: It is the best time of year to gear up.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: Great song, great job today, launder always.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: I think Eighties Tuesday is my favorite. Yeah, I had
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: to wear the cure sure and honor nice.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: Eighties.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Eighties music's so good because there's so many different like
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: and then different genres like I music that hit two.
• 45:30
  Speaker 8: Yeah, we decided genre is going to be spelled that way,
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: spelled like genre.
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: How would you spell it?
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: G E N R E. That's not how I spell it?
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: How would you spell it?
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: I teach my kids who were learning to read ah
• 45:42
  Speaker 8: ah as an o sound joh enra. Yeah, it was
• 45:47
  Speaker 8: a J J O M R a H.
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: The thing about letters is when you put them next
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: to certain other letters, they make a different sound.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: I don't believe you. I don't believe you is true.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: The soft.
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: There a little hyphen on that one or accent on
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: that genre. Genre.
• 46:16
  Speaker 8: It feels like I'm gonna miss you, guys, but I'm
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: not gonna miss this eight air conditioned.
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: The old tip of the nose is pretty cold. All right,
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: we love you, we appreciate you. We'll see you tomorrow.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Enjoy the rest of your.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Day off the bench, all right, to.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Go to juve me medical dot com. If you're feeling tired,
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: low on energy, are you just don't feel like your
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: younger self, you can visit one of their locations. I
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: mean they got them everywhere, Ben Rouge, they got multiple locations, Preville, Metaye,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Slide L, Covington, Treeport, Monroe, Lake Charles laughing at wherever
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: you're listening to us, no matter which affiliate you're listening on,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: they have got somebody that can help you out to
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: feel like you're younger. So for over ten years they
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: have been the Louisiana leader in HRT helping you regain
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: that energy that boosts that libido.
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: And get back to feeling like your normal self.
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: That's right. You know, men, we're talking to you.
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: Although you're men or you're a lady, whatever, but men,
• 47:18
  Speaker 8: we're talking to you energy, libido, whatever it is, it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: called testosterone.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: It's called HRT.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, if you're feeling a little sore, it's also talked peptides.
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: They can make you feel better all over. Man, go
• 47:28
  Speaker 8: see them. They are awesome. Rejubime rejubiviu medical dot com