Latest / Sports Exchange / Stanley Cup Winning Coach Joel Quenneville Resurfaces in Disneyland
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- 0:21Speaker 1: It's National Hockey Night on UT Sports Exchange. Everybody my
- 0:24Speaker 1: name is Scott Morgan, Moore City, mad Mouth, dam My
- 0:27Speaker 1: group hereens in sports like say dying and everybody walking
- 0:32Speaker 1: to the Big Show was might get to see on
- 0:35Speaker 1: Sunday over at the Black Rock out in Fort Water, Florida.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Finally catching up with you for Mother's Day breakfast, brunch,
- 0:41Speaker 1: whatever you want to call. It will be fun and
- 0:43Speaker 1: Candy's gonna be worked under bio. We're gonna take some pictures.
- 0:45Speaker 1: We're gonna have a good old time planning. What we're
- 0:47Speaker 1: gonna do is Sunday long last sounds good to me
- 0:51Speaker 1: and George Iicorn. You know, I don't care what you
- 0:54Speaker 1: do with Tigers, doesn't matter, although I'm watching him now,
- 0:57Speaker 1: but it's good to have you back in Pends. We
- 0:59Speaker 1: have a busy genda today, Soles. Let's get getting started.
- 1:03Speaker 1: When you start off a show with the Stanley Cup
- 1:05Speaker 1: coach like Joel Quinville reservicing in Disneyland is pretty obvious
- 1:10Speaker 1: to say where we're going to go with this bad boy.
- 1:12Speaker 1: First of all, Joel Quintvill has been hired by the
- 1:15Speaker 1: Anaheim Ducks, and I'm going to read a statement from
- 1:18Speaker 1: general manager Patford. Beat Over the last two weeks, we
- 1:23Speaker 1: conducted interviews with many outstanding coaching candidates while simultaneously conducting
- 1:28Speaker 1: a comprehensive review of what took place while Joel was
- 1:31Speaker 1: head coach of the Blackhawks in twenty ten. We spoke
- 1:34Speaker 1: with dozens of individuals advocates are positive change in hockey
- 1:38Speaker 1: and leadership of the NHL, which last July officially cleared
- 1:43Speaker 1: Joel to seek employment in the league. Their findings are
- 1:46Speaker 1: consistent with Joel's account that he was not fully aware
- 1:49Speaker 1: of the severity of what trans fired in twenty ten.
- 1:52Speaker 1: It's clear that Joel deeply regrets not following up with
- 1:56Speaker 1: more questions at the time, has demonstrated meaningful person growth
- 2:00Speaker 1: and accountabilly, and has earned the opportunity to return to coaching.
- 2:04Speaker 1: Of course, Garry Batman went out there and reinstated I'm
- 2:07Speaker 1: mike na lead off with you. What are your thoughts
- 2:09Speaker 1: about Joel Flintville returning to the Ducks, And I think
- 2:12Speaker 1: it's first for all, a good situation. They didn't make
- 2:14Speaker 1: the playoffs anyway, so they only have one way to go.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I think it's just up. But you can pick it
- 2:19Speaker 1: up from there. I disagree, Okay.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I think this is a classic situation where there's different
- 2:29Speaker 2: rules for different folks and it's not right. What he
- 2:34Speaker 2: was involved in was terrible, Okay, terrible, and he was
- 2:40Speaker 2: the key figure along with the club president who resigned
- 2:44Speaker 2: and left.
- 2:45Speaker 1: Okay, he was the key.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Figure in all this. I happen to be working for
- 2:51Speaker 2: Nashville when this was occurring.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Okay, played us.
- 2:55Speaker 2: They played us in the first round of the playoffs
- 2:57Speaker 2: when all this went on, and Quinnville was the key
- 3:01Speaker 2: figure who said, I don't want to deal with this
- 3:05Speaker 2: right now. I want to a playoff series. I want
- 3:08Speaker 2: to try to win a Stanley Cup. And I'm sorry.
- 3:11Speaker 2: I know it's professional sports, but some things are bigger
- 3:15Speaker 2: than professional sports. I think it's terrible. From the standpoint
- 3:21Speaker 2: of Anaheim, this is a team that made a twenty
- 3:26Speaker 2: two or twenty four point improvement from last year to
- 3:30Speaker 2: this year with really, you know, other than a mid
- 3:34Speaker 2: season addition of a pretty good defenseman from New York,
- 3:39Speaker 2: not a lot. And so I think also what they
- 3:42Speaker 2: did to a young, a first time NHL coaching, Greg
- 3:48Speaker 2: Cronin was also not fair and obvious. Now that this
- 3:55Speaker 2: stuff was going on, before they let Cronin go because
- 3:59Speaker 2: there was no reason for why they let Cronin go,
- 4:02Speaker 2: And now I see why. So I just think it's terrible.
- 4:06Speaker 2: I think it's terrible for sports when we let some
- 4:10Speaker 2: people off the hook because of you know, their pedigree
- 4:13Speaker 2: as a coach or a player or other things, when
- 4:16Speaker 2: there's probably other people that if the same thing they
- 4:20Speaker 2: were involved in, the same thing, wouldn't be given that
- 4:22Speaker 2: same grace.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Well, you know what, I have you on here for
- 4:25Speaker 1: a reason. You've been around the hockey world for a
- 4:28Speaker 1: lot longer than I have on many levels, and I
- 4:31Speaker 1: accept your opinions. I take them to head and I
- 4:34Speaker 1: take them to heart. I certainly totally respect everything that
- 4:38Speaker 1: you're talking about, and I'm glad that you provide your input.
- 4:41Speaker 1: I just know, I just know in my opinion and
- 4:44Speaker 1: it will be slightly different.
- 4:46Speaker 2: And let me just add one thing, Scott, what is
- 4:51Speaker 2: this personal growth? And what did he do since he's
- 4:55Speaker 2: been suspended? You know, you can't just throw out a
- 4:58Speaker 2: statement like he's had great personal growth? What did he do? Right?
- 5:02Speaker 1: What did he do?
- 5:02Speaker 2: Did you sit around and play golf for the last
- 5:05Speaker 2: five years?
- 5:06Speaker 3: Right?
- 5:07Speaker 2: Show me something that says that he does deserve a
- 5:11Speaker 2: second chance, and don't just give me that. Everybody deserves
- 5:14Speaker 2: the second chance, though, because there's many people in the
- 5:18Speaker 2: same situation that wouldn't get that second chance.
- 5:24Speaker 1: The only thing I can only say, and that's all
- 5:27Speaker 1: I'm going to say about, is Garry Bettman allowed him
- 5:30Speaker 1: to come back, and that's it. That he's stared gave
- 5:33Speaker 1: to be hired by anybody than he wants. Other than that,
- 5:35Speaker 1: I'm going to rest on what you said and take
- 5:37Speaker 1: what you have because you're an insider and you are
- 5:39Speaker 1: a lot closer to the situation than I am. And
- 5:42Speaker 1: I'm completely okay with that. I really, really, truly am okay.
- 5:46Speaker 1: So I'm not saying any more about it. I'm glad
- 5:47Speaker 1: you said plenty, which is great.
- 5:49Speaker 3: What do you think, George, Yeah, I first glance, I
- 5:54Speaker 3: was I was pleased that they were moving on. It's
- 5:58Speaker 3: been a while since he called. I gotta be honest
- 6:02Speaker 3: with you, Mike, Like you said, Scott was closer to
- 6:07Speaker 3: the hockey world, and obviously I respect your opinion very much, Mike.
- 6:11Speaker 3: All you guys expect everybody's opinion, not just but what
- 6:15Speaker 3: I'm saying is that he brought up some valid points. Mike,
- 6:18Speaker 3: you brought up some valid points. What are the things
- 6:20Speaker 3: that the coach endured or didn't endure, what he went improvement,
- 6:26Speaker 3: what kind of things happen well, questions that we don't
- 6:28Speaker 3: have answers to. I always liked Joe Quindle as a
- 6:31Speaker 3: head coach. I'm talking about between the between. Uh, you know,
- 6:36Speaker 3: his ability as as winning championships and training and conditioning
- 6:42Speaker 3: and and being involved with the duties of a head coach.
- 6:46Speaker 3: But of course I'm not happy with what went down
- 6:48Speaker 3: and what happened in that terrible, terrible situation. So I
- 6:53Speaker 3: don't know. I guess I'm gonna wait a little bit
- 6:55Speaker 3: on this one to say I.
- 6:57Speaker 1: Don't think anybody could be happy with went down there.
- 7:00Speaker 1: That was very severe stuff. When he did in Chicago,
- 7:03Speaker 1: that really was I'm not condoning it by any stretch
- 7:05Speaker 1: of the imagination. I am not under knowing certain condoning it.
- 7:10Speaker 1: What he did was bad. That's why he'd been out
- 7:12Speaker 1: for a while, and that's why every coaching opportunity has
- 7:15Speaker 1: been out there. People have passed on him right and left.
- 7:18Speaker 1: So there's no question that he's definitely People say, hey, Joe,
- 7:21Speaker 1: we don't till any cups you've won, you're not getting
- 7:24Speaker 1: hired by here. This so happens. He happens to get
- 7:27Speaker 1: hired out in Anaheim, of all places. And that's all
- 7:31Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm not going any further than that period.
- 7:34Speaker 1: But he did in Chicago was outright and wrong. Stan
- 7:37Speaker 1: Bowman obviously was there and he ended up leaving as well,
- 7:41Speaker 1: so he was obviously part of that debacle that occurred
- 7:45Speaker 1: there as well. So again, Mike, I'm taking you exactly
- 7:49Speaker 1: for what you said, because you're much closer to the situation.
- 7:52Speaker 1: And why do you think I let off of you
- 7:54Speaker 1: because I wanted to go to a guy who's a
- 7:56Speaker 1: lot closer to it? All right, pends in some thoughts.
- 8:00Speaker 4: I agree with Mike when he said I didn't know
- 8:02Speaker 4: anything about what happened behind the scenes. You'll only see
- 8:07Speaker 4: what was between the bench. So what Mike has, Mike
- 8:11Speaker 4: has more insiders. So I don't think he has needs
- 8:15Speaker 4: a second chance after what Mike said. So, but we'll
- 8:18Speaker 4: wait it out. We'll see how things go. But as
- 8:21Speaker 4: far as I know, he was a decent coach, but
- 8:23Speaker 4: behind the bench he was decent, So we'll see how
- 8:27Speaker 4: it goes. I'm going to wait it out until I
- 8:29Speaker 4: get my full opinion.
- 8:30Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna have to
- 8:32Speaker 1: take away and see attitude on this anyways ahead.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I don't the guy was a tremendous coach.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I mean once Stanley Cupps is a coach's player back
- 8:42Speaker 2: in his day, and he's probably a tremendous guy. I'm
- 8:46Speaker 2: not gonna I'm not going to argue that, but what
- 8:51Speaker 2: happened to this young hockey player will scar him for
- 8:57Speaker 2: the rest of his life.
- 8:59Speaker 4: Right, And.
- 9:01Speaker 2: You know Stan Bowman, Yes, he was a GM there.
- 9:04Speaker 2: He was a first year GM with literally no real
- 9:09Speaker 2: authority or power there. Quinville had all the power in
- 9:14Speaker 2: the way things were structured then, and Quinnville made Quinville
- 9:18Speaker 2: made the decision to move forward. And also, I don't
- 9:24Speaker 2: know how old he is now, but maybe seventy. He's one,
- 9:28Speaker 2: Stanley cup He's got plenty of money. I don't know
- 9:32Speaker 2: why you need to bring him back. There's plenty of
- 9:36Speaker 2: other good quality coaches out there. And again, this is
- 9:39Speaker 2: the part I blame on Anaheim. They threw They threw
- 9:44Speaker 2: a you know, a new head coach who did a
- 9:47Speaker 2: terrific job out there under the bus just so they
- 9:51Speaker 2: could run out and get this guy. And that's wrong.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Well, Josh, you didn't hear what Mike hand to say,
- 9:58Speaker 1: So yes, I encourage you to go back. What he
- 10:00Speaker 1: just said here tells you that Mike Santos is not
- 10:05Speaker 1: a fan of Joel Quinville, putting it mildly. All right,
- 10:08Speaker 1: let's talk about another major coaching.
- 10:10Speaker 2: About a fan of Joel quinvill. I just don't think
- 10:13Speaker 2: this is I don't think.
- 10:14Speaker 1: This is a just decision, right, Okay, Well that's fair enough.
- 10:19Speaker 1: That's fair enough. Okay, let's talk about Pittsburgh Penguins. They
- 10:22Speaker 1: let go Mike Selvn. But how long did it take
- 10:25Speaker 1: for him to land a job in New York Rangers?
- 10:26Speaker 1: Mike Goodness, I don't know what Pittsburgh's gonna do, Mike,
- 10:29Speaker 1: but tell you, the New York Rangers wasted no time
- 10:32Speaker 1: putting Sullivan in the Big Apple. What are your thoughts about,
- 10:34Speaker 1: first of all, what transparent in Pittsburgh and what's taking
- 10:37Speaker 1: place in the Big Apple.
- 10:39Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Mike Sullivan came into a many and
- 10:44Speaker 2: ready made team in Pittsburgh, and you know I want
- 10:49Speaker 2: to Stanley Cup. Uh, there's no doubt about it. But
- 10:52Speaker 2: he's been there a long time, and you know, the
- 10:57Speaker 2: probably new ownership a couple of years ago. Now now
- 11:01Speaker 2: they stuck with him and it was probably time for
- 11:04Speaker 2: a change, and you know, Mike Sullivan would say the
- 11:07Speaker 2: same thing. And then you've got the Boston University connection
- 11:12Speaker 2: in New York, particularly with Chris Druria as the general manager.
- 11:16Speaker 2: Right well, I don't think it was any surprise that
- 11:19Speaker 2: you know, he basically got on a bus and you know,
- 11:23Speaker 2: for four or five hours later landed at Penn Station,
- 11:27Speaker 2: New York. And so, you know, I think Mike sulliv
- 11:33Speaker 2: would be the first one to tell you that's that's
- 11:34Speaker 2: part of the you know, that's part of the terrain
- 11:37Speaker 2: for being a head coach. And you know in the
- 11:39Speaker 2: National Hockey League, he had a great run in Pittsburgh
- 11:45Speaker 2: and honestly, it's going to take that team a while
- 11:49Speaker 2: to turn things around.
- 11:50Speaker 4: Right now.
- 11:51Speaker 2: They've got some big decisions to make. It usually happens
- 11:55Speaker 2: with championship teams when they're at the end of their run.
- 11:57Speaker 2: And so I don't think he would have been and
- 12:00Speaker 2: the right guy going forward there to go through some
- 12:03Speaker 2: sort of development phase to get the Penguins back. So
- 12:06Speaker 2: he's in a good spot with a team that, if
- 12:09Speaker 2: nothing else, has a lot of talent, it just needs
- 12:11Speaker 2: a lot an attitude adjustment. In the Rangers, they were
- 12:16Speaker 2: I mean everybody was picking them to maybe be a
- 12:19Speaker 2: Stanley Cup finalist this year, but that team was one
- 12:23Speaker 2: of the softest teams mentally I've ever seen. I mean,
- 12:27Speaker 2: they were what a bunch of cry babies. That's how
- 12:32Speaker 2: I would explain the New York Rangers this year.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to live. They're coming up of President's
- 12:37Speaker 1: Trophy and they they laid and egged badly as they
- 12:40Speaker 1: did George.
- 12:42Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a good move by the Rangers. Obviously,
- 12:47Speaker 3: time for Sullivan to move along. Basically he's been in
- 12:50Speaker 3: Pittsburgh for so long, taking nothing away from what he
- 12:53Speaker 3: achieved there with the Stanley Cup championships. But you nailed it, Mike.
- 12:58Speaker 3: You know, the Rangers were too so off this year.
- 13:02Speaker 3: Peter Levallette, I don't know what was going on over there.
- 13:04Speaker 3: I mean, they had some injuries, but all teams have injuries.
- 13:08Speaker 3: And Chris Drewry acted fast. He made the move last Friday,
- 13:12Speaker 3: and you know, trying to see if Mike Sullivan can
- 13:16Speaker 3: work some magic at Madison Square Garden. I'm not so sure.
- 13:20Speaker 3: They do have a lot of talent, but they just
- 13:22Speaker 3: were not giving to my to my eyes, they were
- 13:25Speaker 3: giving a full effort. Like you said, they're nowhere near
- 13:29Speaker 3: giving that one hundred percent effort that they need and
- 13:32Speaker 3: game in and game out. So I think it's a
- 13:35Speaker 3: good move for both teams. Pittsburgh was ready to move on,
- 13:38Speaker 3: and I think the Rangers did the smart thing and
- 13:41Speaker 3: getting Sullivan signed.
- 13:43Speaker 1: You have last word on this one.
- 13:45Speaker 4: I'm a big Penguins fan ever since I was a
- 13:48Speaker 4: little kid. I've seen coaches come and go. I appreciate
- 13:51Speaker 4: Mike Sullivan what he did. He went back to back championships.
- 13:55Speaker 4: But if you don't win get close to the playoffs,
- 13:59Speaker 4: you lose the locker room. It's time, and it was.
- 14:02Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna be fired a year or two.
- 14:04Speaker 4: You talk to Ralph and I we both agree that
- 14:07Speaker 4: he should have been fired two years ago. But now
- 14:10Speaker 4: we're to go forward. We'll see Malkin's going to go
- 14:13Speaker 4: back to Russia soon and stay in Russia. Crosby's coming
- 14:16Speaker 4: up to his last contract, so he's going to retire.
- 14:20Speaker 4: We just were geated the eleventh pick in the this
- 14:22Speaker 4: year's draft. So we'll see what happens coming forward. Hopefully
- 14:27Speaker 4: we'll get hopefully we'll get right pieces.
- 14:29Speaker 1: So what a year, What a year? What a difference
- 14:32Speaker 1: a year makes? Steven Stamkos goes to the National Predators
- 14:35Speaker 1: and he missed the playoffs and the Tampa Bay Landing
- 14:38Speaker 1: were eliminated in the first round by the Florida Panthers
- 14:41Speaker 1: were on We're here, talks about the way Sam coast
- 14:43Speaker 1: little now like obviously I don't think he planned it
- 14:46Speaker 1: this way, the way things worked out, but it's but
- 14:48Speaker 1: also another announcement, Andrew Burnett will be back as a
- 14:51Speaker 1: new as a coach going forward next year, and Barry
- 14:55Speaker 1: Fronts announced that heday, Well, let's keep the focus on
- 14:57Speaker 1: Steven stampcos, you know, a year away from the playoffs
- 15:00Speaker 1: and now he's in Nashville and he's not placing the postseason.
- 15:04Speaker 2: Well, I mean, from Nashville's perspective, absolutely a horrible move.
- 15:12Speaker 2: And I said this last July on Neil Smith's podcast
- 15:16Speaker 2: when first happened. Nashville has created a real problem for themselves.
- 15:22Speaker 2: And I say that as somebody who loves the organization.
- 15:25Speaker 2: Work for the organization, But Nashville has become a nice
- 15:30Speaker 2: place to finish out your career. It's a nice place
- 15:34Speaker 2: with nice weather. There's no state income tax. My wife's happy.
- 15:40Speaker 2: I've already won Stanley Cups. Oh we lost tonight, That's okay.
- 15:45Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch. There's a whole bunch of thirty
- 15:48Speaker 2: year olds on that roster right move. They all have
- 15:52Speaker 2: no trade and no move clauses, so there's no there's
- 15:55Speaker 2: no worry that they're going to get traded or put
- 15:57Speaker 2: on waivers. It's just a nice company place to finish
- 16:01Speaker 2: out the year. And with the money they paid him
- 16:04Speaker 2: four years eight million a year, he wasn't going to
- 16:06Speaker 2: get half of that in Tampa. He wasn't offered half
- 16:10Speaker 2: of that. And he wasn't going to get that in
- 16:12Speaker 2: his other option, which would have been Detroit, and that
- 16:16Speaker 2: probably would have been the better place for him, which
- 16:19Speaker 2: right at a lower salary, but he opted for the
- 16:22Speaker 2: you know, the nice smooth take me into retirement. I
- 16:27Speaker 2: mean that organization. Now, they remind me of the La
- 16:33Speaker 2: Kings in the seventies and eighties. They remind me of
- 16:38Speaker 2: the Florida teams in the nineties where this is what
- 16:41Speaker 2: a great place and my wife loves it here, so
- 16:44Speaker 2: that happy wife, happy life. And so we don't win,
- 16:47Speaker 2: we don't make the playoffs. Who cares? Right from Tampa's standpoint,
- 16:55Speaker 2: they filled his spot. I don't think not having stamp
- 16:58Speaker 2: Coastes what cost them in the first round of the playoffs.
- 17:00Speaker 2: I don't think they were prepared to play playoff hockey,
- 17:03Speaker 2: especially the way you have to play it against the
- 17:05Speaker 2: Florida Panthers. I mean, the first game in their own building,
- 17:10Speaker 2: they just got pushed around all over the ice. Pretty
- 17:15Speaker 2: much happened throughout the series, but especially Game one, and
- 17:17Speaker 2: the Panthers came in and knocked them on their ass
- 17:21Speaker 2: and the series was over. And but I mean, as
- 17:24Speaker 2: far as we're placing replacing standpost production for camp I
- 17:30Speaker 2: mean they did that, especially when they added Jake Densel.
- 17:33Speaker 2: So that's my thoughts overall.
- 17:37Speaker 1: George, obviously everybody destroy one to see. Yeah, but what
- 17:42Speaker 1: are your thoughts about.
- 17:45Speaker 3: Isn't an ironic a fellow named Tara Shanko comes to
- 17:48Speaker 3: the right wings instead of mister Stampkos and we all
- 17:51Speaker 3: know how that worked out at least one season horribly
- 17:56Speaker 3: And the wings obviously, just like Nanshell did make the playoffs,
- 18:00Speaker 3: stamp Coast got a lot of good hockey. And again, Mike,
- 18:02Speaker 3: you've you've shared some very you know, deep knowledge of
- 18:06Speaker 3: the situation with the way you describe you know, a
- 18:08Speaker 3: lot of these middle aged or upper age players and
- 18:11Speaker 3: that comfort zone, that comfort you know, with their family,
- 18:14Speaker 3: their wives, whatever.
- 18:17Speaker 1: It is.
- 18:18Speaker 3: It is a little bit this disconcerting to me because
- 18:22Speaker 3: every team is out there, and every team is supposed
- 18:24Speaker 3: to have one goal in site, obviously to win the
- 18:26Speaker 3: Stanley Cup. And and when we get into situations like this,
- 18:30Speaker 3: you got to scratch your end. You say, what's going
- 18:31Speaker 3: on with some of these players, you know? And why
- 18:34Speaker 3: did it happen to stand Coast like that? Why did
- 18:36Speaker 3: it happen to Nashville like that? I mean, you know,
- 18:38Speaker 3: they had a really good team for many many years.
- 18:41Speaker 3: They just couldn't couldn't win it all. But I think
- 18:44Speaker 3: that I think you'll bounce back. I think that'll be
- 18:48Speaker 3: whether the whole femal bounce back. Who knows. That's a shame.
- 18:52Speaker 3: But like I said, we've got a lot of teams
- 18:54Speaker 3: in that same area that that gray area of that
- 18:57Speaker 3: national is and right now, but stand coast still. I
- 19:00Speaker 3: think a lot of good hockey left, and he's making
- 19:03Speaker 3: a ton of money. He better hustle.
- 19:05Speaker 1: Well, we'll tell you. The National is a beautiful city, Mike.
- 19:07Speaker 1: You and I both know that as well. I have
- 19:09Speaker 1: a my sister in law, my brother in law lived there,
- 19:12Speaker 1: and of course lived there, and it's really a beautiful,
- 19:15Speaker 1: beautiful place. And Bill wicked by the way, Georgia, I
- 19:18Speaker 1: know you do this, yes, is with Nashville as well.
- 19:21Speaker 1: So quick thought fending on stamcos they have a lot
- 19:25Speaker 1: to get to today here on the Sports Exchange. So
- 19:28Speaker 1: here we go.
- 19:29Speaker 4: Him and Mark and would have been noisee ass quick winded.
- 19:33Speaker 4: I thought him was going to the Red Wings. But
- 19:35Speaker 4: that's what I said with him and market del Markhiul
- 19:37Speaker 4: a bit noise, but he made his choice, So I'm
- 19:41Speaker 4: glad he's happy. But like Mike said, no Stanley Cup, Oh,
- 19:45Speaker 4: well he's had Nashville, so so he's happy. So that's
- 19:49Speaker 4: my take on that.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Okay, you're right, Scott. It is a nice place to
- 19:54Speaker 2: be and to live, and that's the problem, especially when
- 19:57Speaker 2: you've got ten thirty year old or older hockey players
- 20:02Speaker 2: on your roster. It's just a nice place to be.
- 20:04Speaker 2: And you've got all sort of the former players that
- 20:06Speaker 2: have moved there and make it their home now. From
- 20:08Speaker 2: Ryan Getz laugh to Ryan Smith, Brett Hull has a
- 20:12Speaker 2: home there now. So it's a you know, for a
- 20:15Speaker 2: for a guy that's thirty three, thirty four years old,
- 20:17Speaker 2: it's a great place to live. Well, the old guys
- 20:20Speaker 2: you used to play with, you're still you're still playing.
- 20:24Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I said, I can't say enough good things
- 20:27Speaker 1: about Sam Coast and his decision to at least move
- 20:32Speaker 1: to Nashville. Listen, like you said, he's got the hardware,
- 20:36Speaker 1: he's got the money, and he's got no state income text.
- 20:39Speaker 1: It just can't get a whole lot better than that.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Right, he chose thirty two million over nine million. I mean,
- 20:46Speaker 2: who wouldn't make that decision.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what next Wednesday's edition of the
- 20:52Speaker 1: Sports Exchange. When I'm gonna do and when I'll even
- 20:55Speaker 1: do Mike, Okay, is he incorporated if we're on Thursday
- 20:58Speaker 1: night into our because it's just gonna be you and I.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Next week we're going to be doing shows solo where
- 21:04Speaker 1: we can do a lot more rapid fire topics while
- 21:06Speaker 1: other people on this crew do other nights. I'm going
- 21:09Speaker 1: to include the California income taxes and you and I
- 21:13Speaker 1: are going to have a field day with that one
- 21:14Speaker 1: on our own. That'll be on Wednesday and Thursday, and
- 21:16Speaker 1: I see you and I can talk about it, so
- 21:19Speaker 1: it'll be interesting. And I'm gonna do that because out
- 21:22Speaker 1: of respect to what you just said here about Stamp Does,
- 21:24Speaker 1: and let's take say you know your math, well, nine
- 21:27Speaker 1: to thirteen million dollars is an awful lot of money,
- 21:29Speaker 1: and you can't make that up. When you don't when
- 21:31Speaker 1: you don't sell a hotel room people, you don't get
- 21:34Speaker 1: that money back or anything like that. So once it's lost,
- 21:37Speaker 1: it's lost. So Staff Does isn't stupid? Four million dollars
- 21:40Speaker 1: in Tennessee isn't a bad thing to do. One more topic,
- 21:44Speaker 1: go to a station break. We have a lot of
- 21:46Speaker 1: rapid fire stuff coming up here. Redwing's prospect Trey Augustine
- 21:51Speaker 1: one Big ten goaltender of the year in twenty eight
- 21:54Speaker 1: games of Michigan statey posted a two point oh two
- 21:57Speaker 1: goals against average and a nine to twenty seven nine
- 22:00Speaker 1: point twenty seven save percentage via MSU Hockey that's where
- 22:04Speaker 1: this source comes from. Augustine continues to raise his stock,
- 22:08Speaker 1: and of course, Sebastian, Cosa and Augustine figure to be
- 22:12Speaker 1: an elite team in the future. Now, bear in mind,
- 22:15Speaker 1: Augustine has informed the Wings that he is returning to
- 22:18Speaker 1: Michigan State for his twenty twenty five twenty twenty six season.
- 22:22Speaker 1: What are you talking, Mike about his decision to go
- 22:25Speaker 1: ahead and proceed, Josh, we have a lot more to
- 22:28Speaker 1: stay with it. I'm not worried about what's on read.
- 22:31Speaker 1: I'm going through what I have and I have your
- 22:33Speaker 1: text and it will all be discussed, but I have
- 22:35Speaker 1: to balance it out. So show a little bit of patience.
- 22:37Speaker 1: You sent some good stuff. We stay with the tentery.
- 22:39Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. Continue Mike about Trey Augustine.
- 22:43Speaker 2: Well, first of all, as far as the Red Wings
- 22:46Speaker 2: are concerned, I unlike probably a lot of the impatient
- 22:52Speaker 2: Red Wings fans maybe you're one of them. George, I
- 22:58Speaker 2: do still think you've got to believe it that he
- 23:00Speaker 2: knows what he's doing and it's going to take time.
- 23:04Speaker 2: And I understand like all teams that are sort of
- 23:07Speaker 2: like George said, in that gray area. Right now, it's
- 23:10Speaker 2: difficult to get out of there, and everybody seems to
- 23:13Speaker 2: point to goaltending as the quickest way out. But goaltenders
- 23:19Speaker 2: take a heck of a lot more time to develop
- 23:23Speaker 2: than skaters do in the NHL, and so Redwing's fans,
- 23:28Speaker 2: I'm sure don't want to hear this, but let's be
- 23:32Speaker 2: patient with both Kosa and also with Augustine and let
- 23:37Speaker 2: the cream rise to the top. I mean, they've got
- 23:40Speaker 2: two really good, potentially really good goaltenders, and the cream
- 23:46Speaker 2: will rise to the top. You both also want you
- 23:49Speaker 2: want them both in the net. You don't want them
- 23:51Speaker 2: be in the backup somewhere. You don't want them, you know.
- 23:55Speaker 2: So as far as Augustine going, that's awesome, go back.
- 24:00Speaker 2: He'll have the net every night that he wants it
- 24:02Speaker 2: right for the Spartans, and the same thing for Cosa,
- 24:05Speaker 2: even if he ends up in great rapids. Again, it's
- 24:09Speaker 2: all about getting these goaltenders into games, letting them develop,
- 24:14Speaker 2: letting them get as many shots as they can. I
- 24:17Speaker 2: can tell you, like when I was an assistant GM
- 24:21Speaker 2: typically one of my duties was to oversee the minor
- 24:26Speaker 2: league and the development system, and I would take what
- 24:30Speaker 2: would be considered our number four goaltender and send him
- 24:35Speaker 2: down to the ECHL. The reason why I would do
- 24:38Speaker 2: that is because I didn't care about what level of
- 24:41Speaker 2: hockey was. I knew that if he was in the AHL,
- 24:45Speaker 2: he was probably going to play twenty twenty five games
- 24:48Speaker 2: that year, But if I sent him down to the ECHL,
- 24:51Speaker 2: he was going to play sixty games that year. And
- 24:54Speaker 2: that's that's what the young goal turner just need. They
- 24:57Speaker 2: need to play, they need to develop. It's very very
- 25:01Speaker 2: rare that a goaltender comes into the NHL and lights
- 25:06Speaker 2: it up at age eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old. Most
- 25:09Speaker 2: of them finally make their way in their mid twenties,
- 25:12Speaker 2: and the good ones sometimes even later than that. The
- 25:15Speaker 2: good news, though, is sometimes they play until nearly forty
- 25:18Speaker 2: and they give you talk performances right up until they're finished.
- 25:22Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no question. What you're saying is one hundred
- 25:25Speaker 1: percent echor Mike. To me, I think the best thing
- 25:28Speaker 1: that Trey Augustine can do is go ahead and play
- 25:31Speaker 1: in Michigan State for another year. It doesn't matter he
- 25:33Speaker 1: got Coosa that. You have to look at the future anyways.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Why do you think they brought in Peter Moreenzick in
- 25:37Speaker 1: the birth late because they anticipated that they're going to
- 25:39Speaker 1: have obviously Alex Lion's going to go. You got Cam
- 25:43Speaker 1: Telbert there for about another year, and you never know
- 25:46Speaker 1: Cosa could be a part of it. And I watch
- 25:49Speaker 1: Steve Eisermann's final press conference, he doesn't feel that Cosa's
- 25:53Speaker 1: play after the All Star break with the AHL warranted
- 25:57Speaker 1: him a call up. Is from what I had heard.
- 26:00Speaker 1: I'll leave it at that. I got to leave something
- 26:01Speaker 1: out there for George Eichorn.
- 26:02Speaker 3: Go ahead, Well, that's all well and good, which you
- 26:07Speaker 3: talked about, Mike, But why did they Why did they
- 26:10Speaker 3: fire their goaltending coach in Detroit? Something wasn't working. Now.
- 26:14Speaker 3: I don't know if that goaltending coach. You might be
- 26:16Speaker 3: able to answer this better than me. Did he does
- 26:19Speaker 3: he spend any amount of time in Grand Rapids looking
- 26:23Speaker 3: at coach so he has to right or does he
- 26:27Speaker 3: just concentrate on the two or three guys on the
- 26:29Speaker 3: roster on the major league roster? My question, you know,
- 26:33Speaker 3: I don't know who. I didn't even interview this coach
- 26:35Speaker 3: this year, but I mean, it just seems odd they
- 26:38Speaker 3: fired the video coach and they fired the goalie coach.
- 26:42Speaker 1: I don't.
- 26:44Speaker 2: Know how their goaltending coaching works in Detroit. Yeah, I
- 26:49Speaker 2: know that. In the organizations that I've worked in, some
- 26:54Speaker 2: of some of them have had a couple of goaltending coaches.
- 26:58Speaker 2: Most of them have had at least a couple of
- 26:59Speaker 2: golden coaches, Okay, and it worked one of two ways.
- 27:05Speaker 2: The veteran goaltending coach, like, for instance, I worked with
- 27:08Speaker 2: Mitch Korn for years, who was thought to be one
- 27:10Speaker 2: of the great goaltending coaches of all time in the NHL.
- 27:15Speaker 2: He's actually the goalie coach that developed Dominic Hasseck in Buffalo.
- 27:21Speaker 2: We don't know who great he was. Yeah, But there's
- 27:25Speaker 2: some goaltending coaches who are charged with the duty of
- 27:31Speaker 2: sort of being the uh, the eyes in the sky
- 27:35Speaker 2: and the best friend of the goalie on the NHL,
- 27:39Speaker 2: the number one goalie on the NHL team. And there's
- 27:42Speaker 2: some goaltending coaches which are charged with being the development
- 27:46Speaker 2: guy and obviously the guy that deals with the NHL guy.
- 27:50Speaker 2: He gets to buy on the charter flights and stay
- 27:53Speaker 2: at the Ritz Carlton in different cities and you know,
- 27:55Speaker 2: eat nice meals and all that kind of stuff, which
- 27:58Speaker 2: is great, but depending on where your organization is right now,
- 28:03Speaker 2: and for me the Red Wings, it's all about the
- 28:05Speaker 2: future and the development. I would want my top goaltending
- 28:09Speaker 2: coach out there in Michigan State and working with the
- 28:15Speaker 2: guys that are the future. Yeah, you know, and guy
- 28:19Speaker 2: is they have with even if they have nobody with
- 28:22Speaker 2: Moraazak so uh, That's that's how I would. I don't
- 28:25Speaker 2: know how ran their goaltending this year, but that's how
- 28:28Speaker 2: I would.
- 28:29Speaker 3: Okay, No, I appreciate that. One last thought, Scott before
- 28:32Speaker 3: we get de pensvent. I'm never going to condemn a
- 28:36Speaker 3: kid for coming back to college. Okay, junior year, senior year,
- 28:40Speaker 3: and they have a winning program. They got something special
- 28:42Speaker 3: going on there at Michigan State. Obviously they wanted to
- 28:45Speaker 3: get to the Frozen Four and win it all. I'm
- 28:48Speaker 3: just saying that I will never fall Augustine for coming
- 28:51Speaker 3: back again. He's got, like you said, Mike and Scott,
- 28:54Speaker 3: you've got plenty of hockey ahead of him in the
- 28:56Speaker 3: years ahead. If he's if hopefully he can make the
- 28:59Speaker 3: NHL roster Detroit.
- 29:01Speaker 1: Hey, George, I'll tell you this right now, man, that's
- 29:05Speaker 1: a bulls eye period. I don't have to ring my
- 29:11Speaker 1: voice saying that from Sorry, you want to go back
- 29:13Speaker 1: to Michigan State play another year, go ahead and do it.
- 29:15Speaker 1: I want to win a national championship going right, So
- 29:17Speaker 1: hold its rights doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if it's
- 29:19Speaker 1: a matter of when what it is. And again I'll
- 29:23Speaker 1: go with what Mike said, Say what you want about Stevember.
- 29:26Speaker 1: I still believe you have to trust what Stevie's doing.
- 29:29Speaker 1: I have a feeling they'll make it be a big
- 29:31Speaker 1: player in free agency. Steve wants to get their bet
- 29:33Speaker 1: and but you're not gonna work his feature to do it,
- 29:35Speaker 1: all right, Pensan close out the topic, Well one more
- 29:37Speaker 1: then we're gonna go to the station. Brank have a
- 29:38Speaker 1: lot of other great things to get to. So if
- 29:40Speaker 1: you're just joining us, stay with us, a lot of
- 29:42Speaker 1: great stuff to do. Fire up follows us after the
- 29:46Speaker 1: sports chains. Go ahead, Penslan.
- 29:48Speaker 4: Plus, going back to college helps your draft stock too,
- 29:51Speaker 4: so I've just got to think about that too. But
- 29:54Speaker 4: go back to Michigan, go learn some stuff. Go learn that.
- 29:57Speaker 4: If you go to the CHL like Mike said, get
- 30:00Speaker 4: take some shots. That's fine too. But you gotta get experience,
- 30:03Speaker 4: you gotta get shots on you. So we'll see how
- 30:05Speaker 4: things are. Domina Kashick was one of the best goalies
- 30:08Speaker 4: in Buffalo, not so much in Detroit, but he pulled
- 30:13Speaker 4: his weight. But so that's my take on that.
- 30:17Speaker 1: Okay, one other thing I want to get to before
- 30:18Speaker 1: I go to the station break, and that is this,
- 30:21Speaker 1: According to Ryan Whitney, John Tortorella told Cam York prior
- 30:24Speaker 1: to firing, if you resign here, I will bury you.
- 30:28Speaker 1: My goodness, Mike, I have to lead off with you
- 30:30Speaker 1: on this. If a coach said, if you resign here,
- 30:33Speaker 1: I will bury you. That's from stuff.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Our good friend is in week with us this week,
- 30:41Speaker 2: so I'm going to take his place and say, I
- 30:45Speaker 2: am so sick of the media and all you all
- 30:49Speaker 2: the influence they have on this BS.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Right.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Who is Ryan Whitney right podcast? And his job is
- 30:59Speaker 2: to make all kinds in the ways in these types
- 31:02Speaker 2: of situations, right. And I know Ryan and you play
- 31:06Speaker 2: that it's not a bad guy, but come on, like
- 31:13Speaker 2: these players are so caddled now in every sport, like
- 31:17Speaker 2: let's sake, I mean, come on now, and now we're
- 31:20Speaker 2: at the point where they're getting paid before they're even professionals.
- 31:23Speaker 2: On top of it, I mean, yeah, I don't, I
- 31:27Speaker 2: don't care. I'm a I'm a believer in ports, even
- 31:31Speaker 2: though the way he coaches is just, I guess, not
- 31:35Speaker 2: welcome anymore, not only in hockey, but in all sports.
- 31:38Speaker 2: Now you gotta you know, I said this last week.
- 31:41Speaker 2: You know, it used to be how to figure out
- 31:42Speaker 2: that you pack this guy in the head or kick
- 31:44Speaker 2: him in the behind. Now now you can't kick him
- 31:47Speaker 2: on the behind. You can only pat him aad and
- 31:49Speaker 2: if you don't, you're out.
- 31:51Speaker 1: All I can say is the words I will bury
- 31:53Speaker 1: you are not something I particularly like. I don't know
- 31:56Speaker 1: Ryan Whitney, like you do. All I do is see
- 31:58Speaker 1: the news, and I report news and I put it
- 32:01Speaker 1: on these shows. And how everybody decides how they want
- 32:04Speaker 1: to interpret the news is subject to their own discretion.
- 32:07Speaker 1: And let's say that is one on one.
- 32:10Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 32:11Speaker 1: All I know is if everybody told me I will
- 32:13Speaker 1: bury you, I'm not so happy. I'd be too lily
- 32:16Speaker 1: enthusiastic about it. And the Flyers weren't. And that's why
- 32:19Speaker 1: John Tortorolla is not working for that organization.
- 32:21Speaker 2: But who said John Tortorella did even said that.
- 32:26Speaker 4: Media.
- 32:27Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Oh, we're all guilty, Okay, I get it.
- 32:31Speaker 4: Probably media.
- 32:32Speaker 2: I mean all these guys that are in the hockey
- 32:35Speaker 2: world anyways, the media now are all these recently retired
- 32:40Speaker 2: players who are doing the podcasts. I mean that really
- 32:43Speaker 2: is a lot of the media, you know. Now if
- 32:46Speaker 2: it's not sitting checklts with diss and that and and
- 32:50Speaker 2: Whitney and yandle, it's it's you know, Missing Curfew with
- 32:54Speaker 2: Scottie upshawl and Sheen O'Brien and you know, these guys
- 32:58Speaker 2: been out of the league a hand full of years
- 33:00Speaker 2: at most, and now they're the they're the media. Well
- 33:03Speaker 2: who are they talking. They're talking to their friends, the players,
- 33:06Speaker 2: and this is what this is.
- 33:08Speaker 3: What we're getting, okay, George, Yeah, I don't like those comments. Okay.
- 33:16Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of that kind of language and
- 33:18Speaker 3: that kind of comments. When I when Scott told me
- 33:22Speaker 3: about this topic, I did a little research and it
- 33:24Speaker 3: goes back to believe it or not, this is the
- 33:27Speaker 3: kind of language that khrushtof used back in the early
- 33:30Speaker 3: sixties from Russia our Soviet Union. And I don't I
- 33:36Speaker 3: don't like it. Yeah, I think he they should have
- 33:38Speaker 3: better spend your time a little bit better and more
- 33:41Speaker 3: constructive criticism or opinions. I will bury it.
- 33:45Speaker 1: Guy.
- 33:45Speaker 3: I'm not a fan of that either. So that's about
- 33:48Speaker 3: all I got for that one.
- 33:49Speaker 1: That's okay. We have to talk like the encyclopedia and
- 33:52Speaker 1: the topic was pressing a head on and then going
- 33:55Speaker 1: from their ipens, and you've got final words of it.
- 33:57Speaker 1: I just don't like the words. I will there you.
- 34:00Speaker 1: But then if some people cross the lines with me,
- 34:02Speaker 1: I will anyway. So no matter who might have, go
- 34:04Speaker 1: out there and say it. When I do it, it's
- 34:06Speaker 1: just like everybody has says, right, would you agree with
- 34:09Speaker 1: me on this? If you cross the line and you're mad,
- 34:11Speaker 1: you will bury them right now. Now, I'm not saying
- 34:15Speaker 1: Ryan Whitney but me. It's just coming from the Motor City.
- 34:18Speaker 2: Man.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Mout. You cross the line with me, you get the trea. Okay,
- 34:22Speaker 1: that's all I'm saying. I don't know who Ryan Whitney is.
- 34:24Speaker 1: God only knows. I never will meet this guy anyways,
- 34:27Speaker 1: and I'm i'll all get to say it. My wife
- 34:30Speaker 1: and I are going to Europe in about six weeks.
- 34:32Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to going And until then, we're
- 34:34Speaker 1: gonna keep putting these shows out there faster than then
- 34:38Speaker 1: the auto industry makes charge, won't Maybe not that fast?
- 34:40Speaker 1: All right, Pensley, you got the last word on it,
- 34:42Speaker 1: and I'll fire up tonight because I only have about
- 34:45Speaker 1: two or three more weeks before I can get out
- 34:47Speaker 1: of out of the house so I can drive again
- 34:49Speaker 1: because I don't need thumb surgery. Thank God, I'm seventy
- 34:53Speaker 1: percent healed. Hellelujah, all right, go ahead for Pentman. Was
- 34:56Speaker 1: that so much information?
- 34:57Speaker 4: I don't know John to tough coach, but I can't
- 35:01Speaker 4: see him saying that. But if he doesn't do what
- 35:05Speaker 4: job wants, I can see him doing that. But I
- 35:08Speaker 4: don't actually know because there's no interview that said that,
- 35:12Speaker 4: So I don't know. I just know how John is
- 35:15Speaker 4: as a coach, so and he's he's a tough coach.
- 35:18Speaker 4: He's in your face. If you don't do what he does,
- 35:19Speaker 4: he will get in your face. I don't know if
- 35:21Speaker 4: he says that I have of anger or joking, but
- 35:24Speaker 4: that's just not professional.
- 35:26Speaker 1: So I got yeah, so crazy Arena. I still would
- 35:31Speaker 1: like to meet this guy, but we.
- 35:33Speaker 4: Do I would too. Oh, that's always on my wish list.
- 35:37Speaker 1: Have you ever met John Porterolo by the way.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Mike, Yeah, he grew up to towns Over for me
- 35:42Speaker 2: and we played in the same youth hockey organization and
- 35:48Speaker 2: his brother is a very good friend of mine.
- 35:50Speaker 1: What do you think of the guy overall?
- 35:52Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's a great guy. He's an
- 35:54Speaker 2: intense competitor. I heard, Yeah, I just don't look if
- 36:01Speaker 2: he If he said that, you know, hey, then he's
- 36:05Speaker 2: gotta he's gotta live with it. But I don't know.
- 36:09Speaker 2: I don't see anything that tells me he said it
- 36:11Speaker 2: other than Ryan Whitney talking to some player who decides
- 36:15Speaker 2: he wants to, you know, get back at Tortorella or whatever.
- 36:18Speaker 2: I don't know. So then my follow up question, show
- 36:22Speaker 2: me the interviews, show me where he said it, right.
- 36:24Speaker 1: I mean, well, then my follow up question to you
- 36:27Speaker 1: is this, before we go to the station break, would
- 36:29Speaker 1: you say that John Tortorella is very misunderstood.
- 36:34Speaker 2: No, I think well understood. I just think people don't
- 36:38Speaker 2: like what he said, what he's all about, Yeah, go back.
- 36:42Speaker 2: I just think this is a just a softer generation
- 36:46Speaker 2: of athletes that we have now. I mean, like, all
- 36:50Speaker 2: you have to do is look to the collective bargaining
- 36:52Speaker 2: agreements in all these leagues now guaranteed days off and this.
- 36:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah, don't give me a story.
- 36:59Speaker 2: You've all seen the movie Miracle, right when they're went
- 37:03Speaker 2: on there a big tour and they they like crap
- 37:07Speaker 2: over and I think it was Holland and what Brooks too.
- 37:10Speaker 2: He lines them up on the ice and skates their
- 37:12Speaker 2: behinds off for for forty five minutes right there, right,
- 37:16Speaker 2: Well that, I mean, high school can't do that with
- 37:18Speaker 2: these guys anymore. Oh yeah, like there's just there's they
- 37:24Speaker 2: run the show now, the players run the show, and
- 37:27Speaker 2: they run the media.
- 37:29Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get me started with the software generation. I
- 37:31Speaker 1: could talk for ages and ages and ages. I won't
- 37:33Speaker 1: do that, but I'll tell you what I am doing.
- 37:35Speaker 1: I'm going to station break candy. Go ahead, you are
- 37:39Speaker 1: listening to.
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- 39:06Speaker 2: Back to you, Scott.
- 39:08Speaker 1: All right, we have some pretty good stuff in store,
- 39:10Speaker 1: so let's start right here. Peter de Boor is the
- 39:13Speaker 1: first coach in all of professional sports to have a
- 39:16Speaker 1: nine in old record in game seven, Mike, if that
- 39:20Speaker 1: isn't clutch, tell me what the word clutch means? Nine
- 39:24Speaker 1: and oh in game seven.
- 39:27Speaker 2: Yeah, phenomenal coach. I had the pleasure of working with
- 39:30Speaker 2: him home one year in Florida, and honestly, if we
- 39:36Speaker 2: had kept him behind the bench, we probably would have
- 39:39Speaker 2: won our Game seven against New Jersey because he was
- 39:41Speaker 2: on the other bench, and we lost Game seven and
- 39:44Speaker 2: triple overtime. Right, So yeah, nothing but nothing but great
- 39:49Speaker 2: things to say about Pete de Boor. He's not a
- 39:53Speaker 2: he's not a gigle guy. He's not you know, he's
- 39:56Speaker 2: he's he's closer to a Tortorella than he is one
- 39:59Speaker 2: of these new school coach. But yeah, he gets the
- 40:02Speaker 2: most out of his players, and he's a real smart,
- 40:06Speaker 2: smart guy.
- 40:09Speaker 3: George, Yeah, I've always liked him too. Obviously, he's got
- 40:13Speaker 3: connections to the motor City and across the river to Windsor.
- 40:19Speaker 3: That's remarkable. That is an unbelievable record. I don't care
- 40:22Speaker 3: if you're coaching minor leagues amateurs ANHL to be that
- 40:28Speaker 3: perfect in game seven. I heard that too the other day.
- 40:32Speaker 3: I couldn't believe it. That is a phenomenal record and
- 40:35Speaker 3: something to really be proud of, which I'm sure he
- 40:37Speaker 3: has and all of his followers. It's just an incredible,
- 40:40Speaker 3: incredible feat. But I like him too as a head coach.
- 40:46Speaker 4: Good good record, good good coach, very smart. Us watched him. Coach.
- 40:52Speaker 4: He's got good four to three four defending the blue
- 40:54Speaker 4: line likeway does he's got. He's really smart with his players.
- 40:58Speaker 4: So I can't say nothing negative about the player about
- 41:01Speaker 4: the coach.
- 41:01Speaker 2: I mean, I really, I really like to see him
- 41:06Speaker 2: win a Cup. He deserves it. You know. He took
- 41:09Speaker 2: San Jose eight to the finals. They lost.
- 41:10Speaker 4: He's close. He's close.
- 41:13Speaker 2: A great Pittsburgh team, right Bensman.
- 41:16Speaker 4: When yeah, yeah, we need him right now?
- 41:20Speaker 2: We lost. You know, he took New Jersey to the
- 41:25Speaker 2: finals and lost to l A. He took Vegas to
- 41:29Speaker 2: the finals and lost. You know, so he's he's do
- 41:35Speaker 2: And let's don't remember like these game sevens and you
- 41:39Speaker 2: win that many of them It's not like you go
- 41:41Speaker 2: out in your head all the time, right, there was
- 41:43Speaker 2: somewhere like the like the last one where they had
- 41:45Speaker 2: to come from behind in the third period to win,
- 41:48Speaker 2: like you're in all different types of situations. That just
- 41:51Speaker 2: tells me that if your team can be that successful,
- 41:55Speaker 2: you know and perfect really in game sevens, then what
- 41:59Speaker 2: you've really do as you've prepared them. And so his
- 42:02Speaker 2: his the way he prepares his team that allows them
- 42:06Speaker 2: to go out to win these big, big game sevens.
- 42:09Speaker 1: There's a steal for him, well for Palmer, he's got
- 42:13Speaker 1: his last year. Who knows there might be some sentimental
- 42:16Speaker 1: favorites out there hoping that. Peter de borg Get says
- 42:18Speaker 1: well mus as well talk about the Florida Panthers Toronto
- 42:20Speaker 1: Mapleys interesting series. Even though Sam Bennett knocked out Anthony
- 42:24Speaker 1: Stollars a goaltender, didn't matter that backup goaltender and Able
- 42:27Speaker 1: helped out the leaves to go ahead carve out a
- 42:29Speaker 1: two to nothing lead in the series. Game three is
- 42:32Speaker 1: tomorrow night at seven o'clock PM Eastern Time. The only
- 42:35Speaker 1: thing happen to say about it is this, everybody knows
- 42:37Speaker 1: it's a must win situation for the Panthers to stay alive.
- 42:44Speaker 1: I know what, there was a stat at one point
- 42:45Speaker 1: that said that when Toronto was one in thirteen and
- 42:51Speaker 1: close out games. Now I think they're two and thirteen
- 42:54Speaker 1: with that stat. But if Toronto wins tomorrow, they get
- 42:57Speaker 1: a stranglehold on this series. So, Mike, do you think
- 43:00Speaker 1: the Panthers can make it two to one tomorrow night?
- 43:04Speaker 2: Can they make it two to one tomorrow night? Yes?
- 43:07Speaker 2: I think they can win the series. No, okay, And
- 43:11Speaker 2: and for the simple reason that they've played so much
- 43:16Speaker 2: hockey last two years. I mean, when you play into
- 43:20Speaker 2: July two years in a row, they lost, they lost
- 43:25Speaker 2: the finals to Vegas, and then they bounce back, come
- 43:27Speaker 2: all the way back and win a final in seven
- 43:29Speaker 2: games last year. Then not only that, but the way
- 43:34Speaker 2: that team plays. Nobody plays grittier or harder than they do.
- 43:40Speaker 2: Like they're they're playing in physical games every night. They
- 43:43Speaker 2: only know how to play it one way, and kudos
- 43:46Speaker 2: to them, But I just think that at some point,
- 43:52Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, but I think
- 43:55Speaker 2: they're just going to run out of run out of gas.
- 43:58Speaker 1: Well, Austin Matthews on a mission, It's like Connor McDavid
- 44:02Speaker 1: was when you have superstar players played for these respective squads,
- 44:06Speaker 1: they're they're a boatload to handle for sure. So go ahead, George.
- 44:12Speaker 3: I'm never gonna count out Florida. I agree with Mike.
- 44:15Speaker 3: They played a lot of hockey, no question about it,
- 44:17Speaker 3: the last several seasons. But I still think they have
- 44:21Speaker 3: any for Let's just talk about Game three, like you said, Scott,
- 44:25Speaker 3: and and you know, beating it's a must win situation,
- 44:28Speaker 3: no question about it. You never want to go down
- 44:30Speaker 3: three nothing. You don't even want to go out do
- 44:32Speaker 3: nothing but Toronto. Let's face it, guys, I mean year
- 44:37Speaker 3: after year, coach after coach, player after player, you know,
- 44:42Speaker 3: they still haven't broken that long long jink. So maybe
- 44:47Speaker 3: this is their year. I'm not sure, but they're off
- 44:49Speaker 3: to a damn good start, no question about it.
- 44:50Speaker 1: To zero.
- 44:51Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go with Florida to win the next game.
- 44:55Speaker 1: You know what, I'm playing this comment up. I think
- 44:57Speaker 1: it's a good one, OK. And no ask comment. Jade
- 45:01Speaker 1: Wyatt one of them, he's gonna be He's one of
- 45:03Speaker 1: our stars on fire. Up. And I'll tell you one
- 45:06Speaker 1: thing about Jdy. I want everybody know, right, now, and
- 45:08Speaker 1: I mean this okay, but JD. Wyatt has come a
- 45:12Speaker 1: long way in this system. He has done an outstanding job.
- 45:16Speaker 1: His improvement on social media has been outstanding. I'll tell
- 45:20Speaker 1: you if you haven't seen fire up with JD Wyatt
- 45:22Speaker 1: on there and Candy Ebling Penman and the country club
- 45:26Speaker 1: that follows us after we get through here, unbelievable stuff.
- 45:29Speaker 1: J D Wyatt, I'll tell you on a live broadcast.
- 45:32Speaker 1: I am absolutely, without question, proud of you, period, and
- 45:36Speaker 1: that's what I want everybody to know out there. So
- 45:38Speaker 1: keep up the great work on Twitter. There's a chance
- 45:40Speaker 1: you might end up on this show as well, so
- 45:42Speaker 1: there's no question about that. I don't mind heaping out
- 45:46Speaker 1: rates in front of everybody because there's a lot more
- 45:49Speaker 1: to this operation than the people that are on all
- 45:51Speaker 1: the time. There are people behind the scenes like Kim
- 45:53Speaker 1: on other shows. They give us a loaded roster all
- 45:56Speaker 1: the way around. I'm part of you, JD. Whittt All.
- 45:58Speaker 1: My advice is keep it up all right? Where was
- 46:00Speaker 1: I we were on still, Peter de I go ahead, Bensman.
- 46:06Speaker 1: I do want to make sure that I got that out.
- 46:07Speaker 1: Appreciate that Scott means a lot I appreciate you. That
- 46:11Speaker 1: means a lot penman the board. We have a lot
- 46:13Speaker 1: more to go.
- 46:14Speaker 4: I'm going to defer on this one.
- 46:15Speaker 1: Okay, no problem. All right, let's go ahead and on
- 46:18Speaker 1: one more topic, and that's called the fact that the
- 46:22Speaker 1: New York Islanders go from eleven to one in the
- 46:24Speaker 1: NHL Draft lottery. I hate this NHL Draft lottery. I
- 46:30Speaker 1: don't really care. The only one that's probably happy is
- 46:32Speaker 1: Patrick Waugh, Okay, because now he's going to have the
- 46:35Speaker 1: top player and the draft. Who knows when they're gonna
- 46:37Speaker 1: get up there. What are your talks about the NHL
- 46:40Speaker 1: Draft lottery, Mike.
- 46:42Speaker 2: Well, it's always good to have the number one pick.
- 46:47Speaker 2: The problem with the number one pick, particularly in a
- 46:49Speaker 2: year like this, but really any year, as Chicago proved
- 46:53Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, is you can screw it
- 46:56Speaker 2: up right. It's just so difficult to to scout and
- 47:02Speaker 2: evaluate sixteen and seventeen year old kids and try to
- 47:07Speaker 2: find it predict what they're going to be like when
- 47:09Speaker 2: they're twenty three and twenty four years old, particularly in
- 47:13Speaker 2: a year like this where there's no sort of you know,
- 47:18Speaker 2: big name player so to speak, like there has been
- 47:21Speaker 2: in years past. There's no guarantees. The other thing is
- 47:27Speaker 2: I don't know who the Islanders have steering the ship
- 47:30Speaker 2: right now, right and when they're going to make and
- 47:35Speaker 2: then when they're going to make a higher so you know,
- 47:39Speaker 2: I mean they haven't you know, unlike most organizations, I
- 47:42Speaker 2: didn't see them even step up when Lula Morrils left
- 47:46Speaker 2: and said so and so is going to be the GM,
- 47:49Speaker 2: the interim GM, or you know, we get somebody in
- 47:52Speaker 2: this position. This person's going to lead the ship. So
- 47:56Speaker 2: right now, I don't know if they have much direction there,
- 48:00Speaker 2: and I'm sure they had scopes that were out there
- 48:03Speaker 2: when they're jobs all year. But but this is, this
- 48:07Speaker 2: has been in these meetings. This is when it comes
- 48:09Speaker 2: down to, you know, who were going to take and
- 48:12Speaker 2: you know a lot of times the buck stops there
- 48:14Speaker 2: and it's the GM that it's going to make the
- 48:16Speaker 2: final decision. So I think they they need to get
- 48:20Speaker 2: somebody in there quick. I believe this is just a
- 48:24Speaker 2: hunch that the that the person that they probably would
- 48:28Speaker 2: like is working for another team right now, and that team,
- 48:31Speaker 2: especially with the Island is having the number one one pick,
- 48:35Speaker 2: probably isn't willing to let that person interview for the job,
- 48:38Speaker 2: or even go for the job right now unless the
- 48:42Speaker 2: Islanders pay them a healthy ransom coming back.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I don't even know who's steering that.
- 48:48Speaker 1: I think they'll let Lul Lamarul go. He's eighty two
- 48:51Speaker 1: years of age, is that right? So yeah, a direction.
- 48:55Speaker 3: So George, Hey, Jimmy, Deblana's available, Jimmy now and all
- 49:03Speaker 3: kidding aside, you're right. I mean, you got to number
- 49:06Speaker 3: one pick coming up, my gosh, and you haven't named
- 49:09Speaker 3: a GM and you don't the whole leadership question is there.
- 49:12Speaker 3: Like you said, Mike, I just know that I was
- 49:17Speaker 3: never a big fan of that system. It seems like
- 49:20Speaker 3: this one team located close to me and never gets
- 49:23Speaker 3: a break on that lottery stuff. But that's quite impressive
- 49:27Speaker 3: to go from eleven to one. Big a lot of
- 49:31Speaker 3: things to clean up and to get better out of
- 49:33Speaker 3: New York, the Islanders, that is so and one player,
- 49:36Speaker 3: a young player such as that, you know you don't
- 49:39Speaker 3: want to mess that up. Then number one pick you
- 49:41Speaker 3: don't want to, so that is a very important decision.
- 49:43Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I get that management team rolling.
- 49:47Speaker 1: You have you had any luck at all, be no
- 49:50Speaker 1: luck when attend to that thing. So yeah, if I
- 49:52Speaker 1: ever then might be focusing on free agency, not worry
- 49:55Speaker 1: about how many games you win or lose. Just go
- 49:57Speaker 1: out there cleaning up. But you can't get the best
- 49:58Speaker 1: player that you can. And not only that, you better
- 50:01Speaker 1: hope your scouting department's good enough to landos hiding gems
- 50:05Speaker 1: in the middle of the draft. All right, and I'll
- 50:08Speaker 1: leave it at that. Then you've got last word on
- 50:09Speaker 1: this one. A few more topics get to go ahead.
- 50:12Speaker 4: Well, the Penguin's got Sidney Crosby at the first pick
- 50:15Speaker 4: in two thousand and five, so they turned out well
- 50:17Speaker 4: for that. But so we'll see what the Islanders do
- 50:20Speaker 4: in their first pick. So moving from eleven to one
- 50:23Speaker 4: is impressive. So just don't mess up the number one pick.
- 50:27Speaker 4: And you got know who you like. I don't know
- 50:30Speaker 4: where they are. They are a good physical team, but
- 50:33Speaker 4: I don't know what the Islanders need. So the Islanders do,
- 50:36Speaker 4: They just need a GM but hopefully they can build
- 50:39Speaker 4: up from there.
- 50:41Speaker 1: All right, let's talk. I've been talking about international participation
- 50:44Speaker 1: all week. I'll continue the team this week. The Penguins
- 50:47Speaker 1: and the Predators two teams that we've talked about a
- 50:49Speaker 1: lot in this show. We'll play in the Global Games
- 50:52Speaker 1: in Sweden Global Series from November fourteenth and sixteenth. What
- 50:55Speaker 1: are your thoughts like about the choice of these two teams.
- 50:59Speaker 2: Oh to play overseas.
- 51:01Speaker 1: Yeah, the Penguins.
- 51:04Speaker 2: Like like most of the major four sports leagues, and
- 51:08Speaker 2: especially the NFL and the NBA, the NHL is trying
- 51:12Speaker 2: to make an impact over in Europe and and uh
- 51:17Speaker 2: make their game more global. So I don't know if
- 51:20Speaker 2: it really matters the I know that the Panthers have
- 51:25Speaker 2: been over a couple of times, I think both times
- 51:27Speaker 2: to Finland. I know Nashville has been over now this
- 51:30Speaker 2: will be the second time that they've gone overseas to
- 51:32Speaker 2: start a season. I know the teams don't like it.
- 51:40Speaker 2: It really isn't a pain in the neck. I know
- 51:42Speaker 2: the equipment managers hate it when you've got to travel
- 51:46Speaker 2: those guys over there, but it really it really interrupts
- 51:49Speaker 2: the end of training camp, right. It's the end of
- 51:52Speaker 2: training camp when you really have to make some big
- 51:55Speaker 2: decisions on we're going to keep on your club, who
- 51:58Speaker 2: you're going to send down. And then the other thing
- 52:02Speaker 2: that happens typically is those teams that go over there
- 52:05Speaker 2: when they come back, because they sort of start the
- 52:07Speaker 2: season a little early. Then they then they get like
- 52:10Speaker 2: a week or so off, and so the other teams
- 52:13Speaker 2: are then you know, hitting their stride after playing a
- 52:16Speaker 2: couple of games, and then you're jumping right back out there.
- 52:19Speaker 2: So I think it's a disadvantage. I don't really think
- 52:22Speaker 2: it matters who goes over there. I know sometimes they
- 52:26Speaker 2: try to, they try to schedule certain teams with certain
- 52:31Speaker 2: players depending on what country they're going to because we
- 52:34Speaker 2: draw over there. But yeah, I don't I don't know.
- 52:40Speaker 2: I mean, Sidney Crosby is a competitor. He'll go, He'll
- 52:43Speaker 2: go wherever they tell him to go. But I think
- 52:45Speaker 2: if he, if he was given the choice, he'd probably rather,
- 52:49Speaker 2: you know, start the season at PPG Arena.
- 52:53Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey, listen. The only thing I'll say about
- 52:56Speaker 1: the topic is this, the NHL, I have to admit,
- 53:00Speaker 1: was way ahead of the NFL on this that they
- 53:02Speaker 1: begained globalization many years ago, back in the seventies when
- 53:05Speaker 1: they had Russia and they began to do all these
- 53:07Speaker 1: other international purmans. The NFL ended up catching on a
- 53:11Speaker 1: lot further. So, Yeah, the NHL that started laid out
- 53:15Speaker 1: the groundwork the NFL. The NBA is starting to get
- 53:18Speaker 1: much better at it. Once you had the Dream Team
- 53:20Speaker 1: and the Olympics and baseball walls. They're a little bit
- 53:23Speaker 1: far behind on the APL. But I'm would you I
- 53:25Speaker 1: may interrupt the season a little bit. I still like
- 53:28Speaker 1: the idea of two teams going out there trying to
- 53:30Speaker 1: show their best talent to market the sport and for
- 53:32Speaker 1: no other reason, market some of your best players internationally.
- 53:35Speaker 1: And that's where I'll go with it.
- 53:36Speaker 3: George, I feel closely aligned with what Scott just said
- 53:42Speaker 3: than you, Mike. I think it is important for hockey
- 53:46Speaker 3: hockey as a global sport. As we all know, the
- 53:48Speaker 3: stars come from all over the globe to play hockey
- 53:51Speaker 3: in the NHL, and I know the Red Wings have
- 53:54Speaker 3: been there several times, especially when Sweden or Scandinavian countries
- 53:59Speaker 3: are involved.
- 54:00Speaker 1: Uh.
- 54:00Speaker 3: But I think it is good for hockey. I think
- 54:02Speaker 3: it's good for your product to advertise it more, and
- 54:06Speaker 3: I know those drawbacks, like you said, but certainly it's
- 54:11Speaker 3: better for the sport itself. I think to see the
- 54:14Speaker 3: NHL players, whether they go to Europe, whether they go
- 54:17Speaker 3: to another part of the world, to play. It's kind
- 54:20Speaker 3: of cool.
- 54:21Speaker 1: I like it.
- 54:21Speaker 3: It's cool, but I'm not doing the traveling.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Well, pen, when your team is going to Sweden, what
- 54:26Speaker 1: do you think.
- 54:28Speaker 4: I'm not surprised. Everybody has everybody needs to turn but
- 54:34Speaker 4: NFL is going to different Countrieswe is going to different countries,
- 54:40Speaker 4: so I'm not surprised if NHL moving this direction like
- 54:43Speaker 4: it's they want other countries learning the sport because a
- 54:47Speaker 4: lot of sports are into pickleball, soccer, whatever they're into.
- 54:52Speaker 4: They're just trying to get more sports into. This is
- 54:56Speaker 4: a brand new sport, so I don't know if Finland
- 54:58Speaker 4: knows anything about hockey, so that's why I think that's
- 55:02Speaker 4: why they're going to induce it. So that's my take
- 55:04Speaker 4: on that. I'm proud of it, So.
- 55:07Speaker 1: Put it on your calendar people, Penguin Predators in Sweden
- 55:10Speaker 1: on the Global Series of Ever fourteen sixty. Of course,
- 55:13Speaker 1: we start have to get to the Stanley Cup playoffs.
- 55:14Speaker 1: I don't know who the final champions are going to be,
- 55:16Speaker 1: but it won't be those. Nevertheless, there more things I
- 55:19Speaker 1: want to get to. Kevin Adams confirmed that Lindy Ruffell
- 55:23Speaker 1: return his head coach of the Buffalo Savers next season,
- 55:26Speaker 1: the last year on his current time deal. Mike, were
- 55:28Speaker 1: your thoughts about Lindy ruffin where the Savers are going.
- 55:32Speaker 2: He's a good coach, but I think they need a
- 55:35Speaker 2: better management team. Yeah, that's the real problem. Nothing against
- 55:40Speaker 2: Kevin Adams, but you got to put into the position
- 55:43Speaker 2: with no experience, right. They went through several other ms
- 55:48Speaker 2: before they even got to Kevin Adams, and none of
- 55:51Speaker 2: them seemed to be anything worked out, and they're they're
- 55:56Speaker 2: in a They're in tremendous trouble there, because is the
- 56:01Speaker 2: sport has expanded into all these nice places like Nashville
- 56:05Speaker 2: and Dallas and Anaheim and Florida and South Florida. When
- 56:12Speaker 2: you're not winning in a place like Buffalo, not a
- 56:15Speaker 2: place that theree agents desire to go to. Taxes in
- 56:19Speaker 2: New York State are very high. I know it's close
- 56:24Speaker 2: to the Canadian border, but there's a lot of Canadian
- 56:27Speaker 2: guys that would rather play in the sunshine of Florida
- 56:29Speaker 2: than play in Buffaloe. So I think they got to
- 56:32Speaker 2: get their act together and starts with their management before
- 56:36Speaker 2: they worry about who the coach is.
- 56:39Speaker 1: Ye, Wendy Ruff is in a thankless situation. He really
- 56:42Speaker 1: has had good success there before. The only thing I'm
- 56:44Speaker 1: going to add to this, and I'll turn it around
- 56:46Speaker 1: to you guys, is number one, Terry mcgol has done
- 56:48Speaker 1: a good job with his football team, the Buffalo Bills.
- 56:51Speaker 1: A boy, he has really lagged on the hockey area.
- 56:54Speaker 1: Go ahead, George, Yeah, yeah. The old saying I can'ts
- 57:00Speaker 1: got nine lies.
- 57:00Speaker 3: My goodness. The Sabers are going back to the to
- 57:04Speaker 3: the past again. Uh Rough, I believe with sixty four
- 57:07Speaker 3: or something like that, and uh, you know Don Granado,
- 57:11Speaker 3: he couldn't get him in then, what is it thirteenth
- 57:13Speaker 3: straight years? Now? I think their their draft is is
- 57:17Speaker 3: much higher than even Detroit's. But Lindy Rough obviously was
- 57:21Speaker 3: well looked upon back of the days when the Sabers
- 57:23Speaker 3: were cranking out the the wins and you know, having
- 57:28Speaker 3: more excitement that they have generated lately. So I don't know,
- 57:32Speaker 3: sometimes they go back to someone like that to have
- 57:34Speaker 3: a little bit of magic rub off. But we'll see
- 57:37Speaker 3: what happens. Uh. You know, and he's sixty four, he's
- 57:40Speaker 3: not old old and he knows the situation there he's in.
- 57:44Speaker 3: But yeah, they got they gotta do something. They got
- 57:46Speaker 3: through that franchise into a winning team. I'm winning a
- 57:50Speaker 3: playoff contender. I mean, it's overdue for Buffalo, great city
- 57:54Speaker 3: for hockey.
- 57:54Speaker 1: I agree, as he's got the last word on this
- 57:57Speaker 1: one more topic. And then Mike Santos is gonna give
- 57:59Speaker 1: us an update on hockey operations. LLC, which is the
- 58:02Speaker 1: official sponsor of the Thursday night edition of The Sports Exchange,
- 58:06Speaker 1: of course, might give me a whole lot more when
- 58:08Speaker 1: we go out to brunch on Mother's Day. And while
- 58:11Speaker 1: I go ahead, before I turn over to Bendman, I
- 58:13Speaker 1: want to wish every mother out there alive gone, and
- 58:17Speaker 1: fathers who are taking the mother role very happy Mother's
- 58:20Speaker 1: Day out there. Our thoughts are there my Grandma Sophie, obviously,
- 58:23Speaker 1: I love you, my mom Shilah, and the rest of
- 58:25Speaker 1: the mother figures that affected my life, but those two,
- 58:28Speaker 1: and I can't forget Petty. I'm think my mother in
- 58:30Speaker 1: law I didn't have a long time. But you want
- 58:32Speaker 1: to talk about a woman who was a chap Oh
- 58:34Speaker 1: my goodness, Katie, that was raised right? All right? Penson,
- 58:38Speaker 1: go ahead, and then we'll let George Mike talk about
- 58:41Speaker 1: their mothers after we do this final topic, Go ahead, benmin.
- 58:44Speaker 4: Any time you're in a city and you do not
- 58:46Speaker 4: go to the playoffs, you don't get close to the
- 58:49Speaker 4: Stalley Cup and Super Bowl, World Series anything, the fans
- 58:53Speaker 4: start getting itchy, they start getting irritated. Then you start
- 58:58Speaker 4: getting riots and flip and now they so anytime in
- 59:02Speaker 4: Buffalo you've got to get something in order. Me I
- 59:05Speaker 4: love it because they're in the Eastern Conference so they
- 59:08Speaker 4: can stay on the bob what they want. But Buffalo
- 59:12Speaker 4: fans just be patient. Every team goes through this. I
- 59:15Speaker 4: don't know how long it's gonna take. I'm going through it.
- 59:19Speaker 4: So hopefully you'll make the turn and make the take
- 59:22Speaker 4: the torner corner. So just be patient and then we'll
- 59:26Speaker 4: see what happens.
- 59:28Speaker 1: Okay, Well, our final topic of the night, by the way,
- 59:31Speaker 1: what I'm going to do right now, I'm really curious
- 59:33Speaker 1: about the Washington Capital Store. Let's get here. No, we'll
- 59:37Speaker 1: give you some NHL updates as we speak. Right now,
- 59:40Speaker 1: Capitals are leading to Hurricanes to the Nothing and Minton
- 59:43Speaker 1: Oil And that's sixteen forty three left in the third
- 59:46Speaker 1: and Minton Oilers take on the Vegas Golden Knights at
- 59:49Speaker 1: nine thirty pm. We'll talk about the Washington Capital because
- 59:52Speaker 1: they do represent the final topic, which is why I
- 59:54Speaker 1: decided to incorporate the score incomplete as it speaks. I
- 59:57Speaker 1: rarely do that, but when I'm segueing to the topic,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: this is exactly why I did it tonight. How bad
- 1:00:02Speaker 1: was the Boston Bruins season? Get this, When they walked
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: to the Washington Capitals at the end of the year,
- 1:00:09Speaker 1: it was their ninth straight loss in the third longest
- 1:00:12Speaker 1: streak in their franchise history. The Boston Bruin's been a
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: dead last in the division and that rebuilt is going
- 1:00:20Speaker 1: to be unbelievable. So ninth straight losses for the Boston Bruins, like,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: it's totally unheard of.
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: They made some really big mistakes and mistakes floral. First
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: of all, they've made mistakes with their coaching staff. Right,
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: they let go of Bruce Cassidy. Right, we did a
- 1:00:45Speaker 2: terrific job there and again here is not happy complaining
- 1:00:52Speaker 2: about their ice time. They moved on from Cassidy. Cassidy
- 1:00:56Speaker 2: went to Vegas and won the Cup there its first year.
- 1:01:00Speaker 2: Same thing. They bring in Jim Montgomery. You did a
- 1:01:02Speaker 2: great job, led them to the best record, not in
- 1:01:07Speaker 2: the league, but in the league all time, the best
- 1:01:11Speaker 2: record ever in the NHL as far as points, and
- 1:01:19Speaker 2: a year and a half later, the players aren't happy.
- 1:01:22Speaker 2: They're grumbling. They got to Jim Montgomery and what does
- 1:01:25Speaker 2: he take. It takes the Saint Louis Blues from the
- 1:01:28Speaker 2: scrap heap to the playoffs and a third overtime game
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: seven goal away from going to the next round. They
- 1:01:37Speaker 2: still don't have a coach. They haven't committed to Joe Stacko,
- 1:01:40Speaker 2: who they put in there as the interim coach, So
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: that's probably number one problem. Number two, they have drafted horribly,
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: starting in two thousand fifteen when they had three first
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: round picks and didn't land anybody other than Louis Debrusk,
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: who is one of the malcontents right himself out of town.
- 1:02:09Speaker 2: But they landed no NFL players on their roster from
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: three first round picks that year, and they haven't done
- 1:02:16Speaker 2: anything with the draft since then. Right next they had
- 1:02:22Speaker 2: a very good goaltending tandem and they screwed that up. Right,
- 1:02:29Speaker 2: They wanted to trade one of them. That's fine, you
- 1:02:32Speaker 2: don't trade the guy first before you got the other
- 1:02:36Speaker 2: guy signed, right, They trade Almark to Ottawa, and then
- 1:02:40Speaker 2: they go and they say to swim In, hey, let's
- 1:02:44Speaker 2: do a new con. Let's do a contract for you.
- 1:02:46Speaker 2: And Sam says, okay, that's great. I want eight million
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: a year, eight years and if you're not going to
- 1:02:53Speaker 2: give it to me, here's my number in Maine, I'll
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: be hanging out. And that's what he did, and he
- 1:02:59Speaker 2: forced their hand. They had no choice, right, So that was,
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: you know, that was problem number three. They also signed
- 1:03:08Speaker 2: the kid I can't remember his name now, but the
- 1:03:11Speaker 2: kid that was basically banned from playing hockey because of
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: a bullying incident he had with a handicapped kid in
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: high school while he was playing in the United States
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: Hockey and he was suspended, and the Bruins went out
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: and signed him and gave him a big signing bonus
- 1:03:33Speaker 2: after he had been drafted by uh Well Arizona at
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: the time now Utah, and Arizona was told that he
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to play in the NHL. So I think
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: they're going to be special and they're going to sign
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: this kid. And the next day they get a call
- 1:03:49Speaker 2: from the NHL saying, I don't know what you did,
- 1:03:52Speaker 2: but he's not playing in the league.
- 1:03:54Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: I mean, they're just they've they've been a comedy of
- 1:03:57Speaker 2: errors on the management with their management team. And I
- 1:04:03Speaker 2: know Don Sweeney, I know him very well. I like him,
- 1:04:06Speaker 2: he's a good person. But in the last i'll call
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: it ten years, he's just lost his mind. And you
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: just can't make those kinds of mistakes. Those are major mistakes.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: And I just gave you four of them. You can't.
- 1:04:20Speaker 2: You just can't do that and expect that your team's
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: going to go, you know, rolling along.
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: I have the Prunes are in for a really, really,
- 1:04:31Speaker 1: really long So that's all I'm gonna say about George.
- 1:04:34Speaker 1: Go ahead, And by the way, I'll put J. D.
- 1:04:36Speaker 1: White's Caesar up there. I think this is classical. At
- 1:04:39Speaker 1: some point, I'm going to use it next week. I
- 1:04:40Speaker 1: just don't know where I'm going to use it. But
- 1:04:43Speaker 1: I should be able to sue my teams like that
- 1:04:46Speaker 1: one Tel Ralph fan forursuing the NFL about the George.
- 1:04:52Speaker 1: That's comical. I'll leave it out there. It's there for
- 1:04:56Speaker 1: everybody to see that stuff.
- 1:04:57Speaker 3: J D.
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: Whitet, you'll be coming a fuld cyber RUSSI out in
- 1:05:02Speaker 1: the text area. That's enough to join us plan to
- 1:05:04Speaker 1: heavy on what's going on. I also heard over to
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: George and then we'll go out there and wrap it
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: up with.
- 1:05:10Speaker 3: I think I think Mike, Mike summed it up perfectly,
- 1:05:14Speaker 3: all the things, the mistakes one by two, by three,
- 1:05:17Speaker 3: by four, and on and on. And you know, I
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for the hockey writers in America,
- 1:05:24Speaker 3: and uh one of them is Helena Saint James that
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: covers Detroit, and she says, you're never going to succeed
- 1:05:30Speaker 3: in the playoffs if your goaltending it is not at
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: least ninety or above percent. And what you said, Mike
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: was so true. Jeremy Swayman twenty nine wins, I'm sorry,
- 1:05:45Speaker 3: twenty two wins, twenty nine losses this year, a three
- 1:05:48Speaker 3: point one two goals against a save percentage of a
- 1:05:52Speaker 3: point eight nine two and then his backup his percentage
- 1:05:55Speaker 3: was point eight nine three. All I can say, you've
- 1:05:59Speaker 3: got to have great golden and I know it's not
- 1:06:01Speaker 3: all their fault. There's a defense in front of them.
- 1:06:03Speaker 3: But the fact of the matter is, as Boston has slipped.
- 1:06:05Speaker 3: A part of it is exactly what you said, mister
- 1:06:08Speaker 3: Santos when you talked about the goltending, uh mix up fiasco,
- 1:06:12Speaker 3: whatever you want to call that with the Boston Bruins,
- 1:06:14Speaker 3: and there's so many other things that happened wrong, but
- 1:06:17Speaker 3: that goltending really was bad.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: By the way Ottawa made the playoffs.
- 1:06:24Speaker 3: Yeah right with.
- 1:06:28Speaker 1: Well, don't worry. Wait, just imagine what we're going to
- 1:06:30Speaker 1: be talking about next week month, Mike, when it's just
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: you and I. We're going to really go through these
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: topics like you wouldn't believe and I today, I expect
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: the chat room to be lively because we're going to
- 1:06:40Speaker 1: be giving one update to another on the Stanley couple
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: of teething for next week show. I think Mike and
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: I will just be the two of us, all right,
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: and then you have final word on them.
- 1:06:50Speaker 4: The moment you let Russek go, that's when things go down.
- 1:06:54Speaker 4: And when you let Brad Marsham walk, that's bad too.
- 1:06:58Speaker 4: Brad Marchan was a east of a defensive player. He
- 1:07:01Speaker 4: would knock you out and probably knock some teeth out.
- 1:07:04Speaker 4: He would knock you into the next county or next
- 1:07:07Speaker 4: state over, that's how hard he hit. But you gotta
- 1:07:11Speaker 4: have good goaltending. And that's why I left out the
- 1:07:14Speaker 4: Tampa Bay uh Way named Felaski was horrible and the
- 1:07:18Speaker 4: Florida Panthers first round. I thought when I said on
- 1:07:22Speaker 4: this show or fire up one of them, that Filski
- 1:07:25Speaker 4: was gonna be the difference maker, and he didn't show
- 1:07:28Speaker 4: up for that. But you gotta have good goog tending
- 1:07:30Speaker 4: in the playoffs, and Boston Bruins got to get that
- 1:07:33Speaker 4: rustic guy back. He's got to find that rassic in
- 1:07:37Speaker 4: the Boston back and then you gotta find good defenders.
- 1:07:40Speaker 1: So I'll take your man off of Mic for a
- 1:07:44Speaker 1: quick second before we turn over to Mike. Number one.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: When you let Linus Omark go and then you leave
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: Swiman by himself, he just went out there and just
- 1:07:53Speaker 1: self destructive because you gave all this other guy the leverage.
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: Bad move with saw the end results towards Drake. Carn
- 1:07:58Speaker 1: came with the numbers of to day what we're doing.
- 1:08:01Speaker 1: Thank everybody in the chatroom that participated tonight. Mike Gon
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- 1:08:52Speaker 1: and Mike are doing this as well. And Mike is
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: a partner of ours on Thursday night Hockey Sports Exchange,
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: and we're so world that he's able to join us
- 1:09:01Speaker 1: weekend and week out, whether it's on a Thursday night
- 1:09:04Speaker 1: or a Wednesday occasional, depending on what his schedule is
- 1:09:07Speaker 1: with me. Well, what a great show fire up is
- 1:09:09Speaker 1: coming up with Candy. She's got j d Wyat, got Penglin,
- 1:09:13Speaker 1: and we have a new guy named Samir who will
- 1:09:14Speaker 1: be on there as well, looking for and having those guys.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: Samir rights for us, and he's gonna get an opportunity
- 1:09:19Speaker 1: to do a little time on the air with Candy
- 1:09:22Speaker 1: in the country Club. Mike I'm really looking forward to
- 1:09:24Speaker 1: seeing you on Sunday, it really is, and we're gonna
- 1:09:26Speaker 1: have a good time. You and I got to take
- 1:09:27Speaker 1: some pictures out there, talk to people over a black rock,
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: and Candy is gonna work on the file, just so
- 1:09:32Speaker 1: you know while you're in front of us eating steak
- 1:09:35Speaker 1: and whatever you want. All right, my friend, So just.
- 1:09:38Speaker 2: Don't get me riled up like you did tonight.
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: Oh I got does anybody can I has a good questions? Mike?
- 1:09:44Speaker 4: Is this is this is wild? If he rolled you, Mike,
- 1:09:46Speaker 4: this is wild?
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: Mike, can I ask good question? Does anybody ever get
- 1:09:52Speaker 1: you riled up?
- 1:09:53Speaker 2: I don't know? Now that's pretty true.
- 1:09:56Speaker 1: I know now, I know you're posting my jobs because
- 1:09:59Speaker 1: if I've ever seen guy see see see cool, calm
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: and collective, you're definitely yeah.
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: Yeah, I was pretty I was pretty tough to intimidate
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: or get off my game back in the day, that's
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: for sure.
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: I can imagine. But you're you're a smooth as sult
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: on this show man.
- 1:10:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say too. Just I did finish the
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: Flying Pig Marathon in Cincinnati last Sunday.
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- 1:10:33Speaker 2: That's awesome.
- 1:10:34Speaker 1: So how you like that? Go ahead talk about your marathon.
- 1:10:37Speaker 2: No, I was just saying it was my second one
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: this year. Yeah, despite the temperatures in the forties and
- 1:10:43Speaker 2: the rain all day, it was a great event. Twenty
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: thousand runners and lots of hills in Cincinnati. I've been
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: there many times over there, and they were they were
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: just as tough coming down as they were going up.
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: So how'd you doing it?
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: I made it four hours and forty minutes, which was
- 1:11:02Speaker 2: a little slow, but given the temperature, the rain, and
- 1:11:05Speaker 2: the fact that there was so many hills, I'm happy
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: with that time. Well, onto Philadelphia in the fall. So
- 1:11:13Speaker 2: if anybody's into running, meet me in Philadelphia for the
- 1:11:17Speaker 2: Philadelphia Marathon this fall.
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: Well, you know, I don't normally incorporate singers in there,
- 1:11:21Speaker 1: and I'll be darned if I'm going to sing the night.
- 1:11:23Speaker 1: But very man well had a son. Looks like we
- 1:11:25Speaker 1: made it, and I'm just gonna modify it, said Mike
- 1:11:29Speaker 1: made it.
- 1:11:30Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Penn Pen's been next spring. I'm not I'm
- 1:11:33Speaker 2: not doing Cincinnati again, but I'm going to go to Pittsburgh.
- 1:11:36Speaker 2: It's right around the same time.
- 1:11:37Speaker 4: So good, good, go out there. There's plenty of there's
- 1:11:41Speaker 4: play hills over.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: There, taills off the hills. I don't know.
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: All that. The NFL Draft is there next year as
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: well for the world. Oh, I can tell you as
- 1:11:53Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to receive. And yeah, I'll tell you
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: one thing. One of the places that we are going
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: is Iceland. You ever been to Iceland?
- 1:12:01Speaker 2: Mike, No, I hear its you.
- 1:12:04Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a good travel agent down here that
- 1:12:06Speaker 1: is looking to be We'll get into that work on Sunday.
- 1:12:09Speaker 1: But what a great show tonight. And yeah, I know, Mike,
- 1:12:11Speaker 1: there's no way you're gonna sit here and tell me
- 1:12:13Speaker 1: that I got you riled up. There's no way. If
- 1:12:16Speaker 1: anybody gets me riled up and thinking on this panel,
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: it's you. Because I'm looking at the Joel Quintvill thing
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show, and I tell you
- 1:12:25Speaker 1: one thing. The amount of information and insight you in
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: on that. Hey, it is what it is. You're an insider.
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: I just look at it on the outside and I
- 1:12:34Speaker 1: put it on the table and it's up to you
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: to go out there and tee off on it and
- 1:12:38Speaker 1: tonight on Joel Quinvill, you did that and you ed.
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: The one thing we do say this as we end
- 1:12:44Speaker 1: this evening is our goal is to educate, entertain it
- 1:12:47Speaker 1: in form and that's what we tried to go out
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: there and do there with That's that and then really
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- 1:12:54Speaker 4: You can find me on Exit Pensman Sports. You can
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- 1:13:08Speaker 1: All right, George, you got to vote to promote and
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- 1:13:12Speaker 3: Yeah. You can find my articles at the South Florida
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- 1:13:26Speaker 3: lot of newer guys in that book, and Scott's in
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- 1:13:50Speaker 3: Great jobs to my all of you, Mike and.
- 1:13:52Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add other than Boston Tea
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- 1:14:36Speaker 5: Go ahead, Candice Well My preview is you got to
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- 1:15:18Speaker 1: Thanks. Why what have you got in store for us later? Candy? Anything?
- 1:15:23Speaker 1: Or you want to just throw the teaser?
- 1:15:26Speaker 5: Was you gotta watch us to find out?
- 1:15:28Speaker 2: Okay?
- 1:15:29Speaker 1: All right, there you go they said it again. All Right,
- 1:15:31Speaker 1: that does it for us tonight. Mike see you on Thursday,
- 1:15:35Speaker 1: and George, I'll see you Monday night. Pens of course
- 1:15:38Speaker 1: here in the system, see you as we go. All right,
- 1:15:41Speaker 1: good night, everybody well, and hope everybody has a great
- 1:15:44Speaker 1: Mother's Day weekend, and Mike and I be hanging out
- 1:15:47Speaker 1: and just having some food. All right, good night, everybody,
- 1:15:49Speaker 1: Fire up us next