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UK Column News Podcast 6th November 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the sixth November twenty twenty four,
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Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to the UK column News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host Mike Robinson joining me today. We have
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Speaker 1: Vanessa Billy and Charles Mallett. Welcome to the program.
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Speaker 2: Both.
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Speaker 1: We are going to get straight on, of course, with
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Speaker 1: the United States election, so let's have a look and see.
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Speaker 1: This is the result just before we came on air,
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Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy nine Electric College votes to Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump two hundred and twenty three Kamala Harris. Everybody will
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Speaker 1: know by now that Trump is going to be the
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Speaker 1: next president unless they assassinate him before the inauguration. But
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Speaker 1: the question is will it make any difference? And the
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Speaker 1: answer to that is probably not. Well in some respects perhaps,
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Speaker 1: but only in the matter by way of nuance. So
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Speaker 1: Trump gave his victory speech. He said, this is the
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Speaker 1: greatest political movement of all time, no ego, and that
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Speaker 1: at all. This is of course talking about his Nuremberg rally,
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Speaker 1: and it really was coming across as exactly that type
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Speaker 1: of thing a couple of days ago. Nigel Faras, we
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Speaker 1: should say, of course it's over there, because he enjoys
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Speaker 1: Trump's company and being an MP, that's the best place
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Speaker 1: to serve as constituents. But he was speaking to Tucker
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Speaker 1: Carson a couple of days ago. Let's have a quick
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Speaker 1: listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Tell us.
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Speaker 4: I mean, is it an overstatement to say that the
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Speaker 4: rest of the world is watching this really, really carefully?
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Speaker 5: Oh?
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Speaker 6: You bet your life. I mean this is this is big.
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Speaker 6: You think it's just about America. No, it's much bigger
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Speaker 6: than that. It's about leadership of the Western world. It's
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Speaker 6: about what signal gets sent to dictators all over the
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Speaker 6: world who were launching wars causing problems, whether we talk
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Speaker 6: Middle East, whether we talk Ukraine, whether we talk potentially
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Speaker 6: what might happen with China, Taiwan, etc. This is I
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Speaker 6: said you something, This is a very very important moment.
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Speaker 6: I was thinking the last four years, what has happened
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Speaker 6: around the world.
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Speaker 1: Well, is it a very important moment? But what we
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Speaker 1: get there as a hint about foreign policy, because of
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Speaker 1: course Faraj and Trump have discussed this and well, I
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Speaker 1: just want to show you again a bit of video
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Speaker 1: that we've showed you in June. I think it was
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Speaker 1: with jd Vance talking about foreign policy and You may say, well, okay,
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Speaker 1: he was only vice presidential candidate at the time, and
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Speaker 1: he's now going to be vice president, but what does
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Speaker 1: he know. Well, in fact, of course, he's just reiterating
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Speaker 1: policy that the Trump had expressed while he was in
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Speaker 1: those previous presidency.
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Speaker 3: So let's just have a listen to this.
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Speaker 4: We are subsidizing the Europeans to do nothing. The Europeans
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Speaker 4: are not carrying their fair share of the burden, especially
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Speaker 4: when it comes in provision of weapons and their own
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Speaker 4: and they're deindustrializing their own country at the same time
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Speaker 4: that they say that Putin must be defeated at all costs.
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Speaker 4: But I actually think that Washington, at least current Washington leadership,
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Speaker 4: really likes the fact that the Europeans are completely dependent
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Speaker 4: on us. That's not an alliance. These people aren't increasingly allies.
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Speaker 4: They are client states of the United States of America
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Speaker 4: who do whatever we want them to do.
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Speaker 3: Why, I think we have a.
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Speaker 4: Real opportunity to ensure that Israel is an ally in
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Speaker 4: the true sense that it's going to pursue their interests
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Speaker 4: and sometimes those interests won't totally overlap with the United States.
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Speaker 4: And that's totally reasonable. But they are fundamentally self sufficient,
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Speaker 4: and I think the way that we get there in
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Speaker 4: Israel is actually by combining the Abraham Accord's approach with
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Speaker 4: the defeat of Hamas. That gets us to a place
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Speaker 4: where Israel and the Sundi Nations can play a regional
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Speaker 4: counterweight to Iran. Again, we don't want a broader regional war.
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Speaker 4: We don't want to get involved in a broader regional war.
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Speaker 4: The best way to do that is to ensure that Israel,
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Speaker 4: with the Sunni Nations, can actually police their own region
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Speaker 4: of the world. And that allows us to spend less
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Speaker 4: time and less resources on the Middle East and focus
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Speaker 4: more on East Asia. And the same way that we
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Speaker 4: want our own allies to do the job in Europe
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Speaker 4: so that we can focus on East Asia. I think
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Speaker 4: that the same is true of the Sunny Nations in Israel.
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Speaker 4: In the Middle East. We want to focus more on
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Speaker 4: East Asia.
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Speaker 1: So you're literally qualified, we don't want a broader regional
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Speaker 1: war in the Middle East. No, we qualified that by
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Speaker 1: then saying we don't want to get involved in a
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Speaker 1: broader regional war in the Middle East. They absolutely want
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Speaker 1: a broader regional war in the Middle East. So let's
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Speaker 1: just consider Trump's foreign policy and what we're likely to
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Speaker 1: see here. The first question is this has been a
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Speaker 1: bit of a talking point. Is the US going to
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Speaker 1: leave NATTO now? Of course, if we go back to
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, Trump was busy telling the Europeans that they
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Speaker 1: weren't stumping up enough cash at that time, that NITTLE
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Speaker 1: wasn't fit for purpose, and so on, And this threat
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Speaker 1: is there in order to drive the sort of drive
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Speaker 1: the Europeans over the hump for European Defense Union. This
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Speaker 1: has been something that he's been working towards since he
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Speaker 1: became the president in his first term. So the threat
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Speaker 1: of the US leaving NATO or NATO breaking up is
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Speaker 1: definitely going to be used to force the Europeans to
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Speaker 1: spend more on defense. Is he going to end war
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine? Of course he said he is, but no,
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Speaker 1: in fact, as we've just heard from Vance, what he
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Speaker 1: actually wants is for the Europeans to take over that
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Speaker 1: conflict and make sure that they keep supporting Zelenski and Ukraine. There.
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Speaker 1: Is he going to end the war in the Middle East? No,
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Speaker 1: because if you listen carefully to what he says. In fact,
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Speaker 1: he says we want to see the war ended in
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Speaker 1: the Middle East as soon as possible. In other words,
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Speaker 1: net Nyahu, get on with it. And then we see
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Speaker 1: that net Nyaho will be and Israel will be the
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Speaker 1: counter to Iran in the Middle East, and the US
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Speaker 1: not having to get directly involved in that. That's what
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Speaker 1: their foreign policy seems to be. And then the question
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Speaker 1: is will they be starting a war with and I
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Speaker 1: think the answer to that is yes, and that has
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Speaker 1: been their plan for quite a long time. Charles, let
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Speaker 1: me welcome you to the program. Any brief thoughts on
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Speaker 1: that and where do you see this issue with China going?
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Speaker 3: Thanks, Mike, good afternoon, Good afternoon, and Essa, good afternoon.
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Speaker 2: All.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I think this is exactly where I'm sort of
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Speaker 3: going with this segment. And indeed, the rhetoric, especially following
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Speaker 3: the Bricks recent Bricks meeting, that there is inevitably a
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Speaker 3: focus on what the relationship between the United States and
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Speaker 3: China is going to be and indeed what governs that
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Speaker 3: and how we should be thinking about it. Of course,
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Speaker 3: referring to your points of you know, really will there
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Speaker 3: be any difference with a Trump as opposed to Harris presidency.
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Speaker 3: There are a number of things to consider. But something
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Speaker 3: I've picked up from South Channa Morning Post yesterday is
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Speaker 3: an article about Kurt Tong, who served as US Consul
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Speaker 3: General to Hong Kong twenty sixteen to twenty nineteen, quoted
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Speaker 3: here as describing either Harris or Trump as being like
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Speaker 3: poison for Beijing. Speaking in an event organized by the
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Speaker 3: American Chamber of Commerce, he said, in answer to the
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Speaker 3: question which candidate would Beijing prefer to win, he said,
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Speaker 3: which poison does Beijing prefer? They would want George Bush
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Speaker 3: to win the election, right, Oh, and he's not running,
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Speaker 3: so it's really on the one hand, on the other
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Speaker 3: hand type of thing. Now he goes on to talk
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Speaker 3: about the trade tariffs and how there might be differences
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Speaker 3: between the Trump and Harris line on trade, but probably
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Speaker 3: not so much with Taiwan. But going back to what
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Speaker 3: you've just been talking about, Mike, I think something that
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Speaker 3: we shouldn't underestimate, and especially given the role of JD
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Speaker 3: Vance in all of this, is the trade relationship between
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Speaker 3: China and Israel. And we see here that China exports
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Speaker 3: over fourteen billion dollars worth of goods to Israel every year,
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Speaker 3: putting them forty second out of the two hundred and
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Speaker 3: eleven countries that they're export to, and very significantly, Israel
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Speaker 3: exports five point five to three billion dollars worth of
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Speaker 3: goods back to China, which ranks them as second in
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Speaker 3: their trading partners at one point nine to five billion,
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Speaker 3: of that being in relation to integrated circuits. So it
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Speaker 3: seems very hard to see how actually the United States
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Speaker 3: will be taking the lead on the relationship between them
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Speaker 3: and China, specifically with regard to this decree that they
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Speaker 3: are to become a proper ally. So it looks like
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Speaker 3: Israel really will be deciding or at least calling the
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Speaker 3: shots in that relationship. And then another thing I think
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Speaker 3: that concerns very much China but also many other parts
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Speaker 3: of the world is the National Endowment for Democracy started
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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty three by Ronald Reagan, and I thought
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Speaker 3: it'd be worth going back to eighty three to listen
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Speaker 3: to what Reagan said specifically about the establishment of this organization.
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Speaker 7: National Endowment for Democracy, a private, non profit corporation funded
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Speaker 7: with the Congress, will be the centerpiece of this effort.
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Speaker 7: All Americans can be proud of this initiative and the
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Speaker 7: congressional action which made it possible. By engaging the energies
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Speaker 7: of our major political parties, of labor, business, and other
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Speaker 7: groups such as the academic community. The forces of democracy
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Speaker 7: will be strengthened wherever they may be. They'll have a
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Speaker 7: caring group of Americans to go to to get assistance from,
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Speaker 7: advice and co operation. This program will not be hidden
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Speaker 7: in shadows. It'll stand proudly in the spotlight, and that's
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Speaker 7: where it belongs. We can and should be proud of
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Speaker 7: our message of democracy. Democracies respect individual liberties and human rights.
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Speaker 7: They respect freedom of expression, political participation, and peaceful co operation.
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Speaker 7: Governments which serve their citizens encourage spiritual and economic vitality.
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Speaker 7: And we will not be shy in offering this message
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Speaker 7: of hope. Through the National Endowment, the private sector will
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Speaker 7: promote exchanges between the American people and democratic groups abroad.
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Speaker 7: It will stimulate participation in democratic training programs and institution
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Speaker 7: building overseas. The Endowment will work closely with those of
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Speaker 7: broad who seek to chart a democratic course. And all
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Speaker 7: this work will be sensitive to the needs of individual
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Speaker 7: groups and institutions, and of course it will be consistent
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Speaker 7: with our own national interests.
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Speaker 3: Now, we could probably spend an entire news program picking
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Speaker 3: apart what Reagan said that. But I think the point,
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Speaker 3: one of the significant points to draw outs is course
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Speaker 3: to focus on the private side of it, the private enterprise,
10:50
Speaker 3: despite the fact that state funded is it is in
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Speaker 3: fact a private body making these decisions, these overtures. And
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Speaker 3: of course the other interesting or important point is to
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Speaker 3: consider what China thinks of all this. And we look
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Speaker 3: at their Ministry of Foreign Affairs and they say what
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Speaker 3: is it and what it does? And they do not
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Speaker 3: mince their words. The National Endownment for Democracy acts as
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Speaker 3: the US government's white gloves. It has long engaged in
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Speaker 3: subverting state power in other countries, meddling in other countries
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Speaker 3: internal affairs, inciting division and confrontation, misleading public opinion, and
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Speaker 3: conducting ideological infiltration, all under the pretext of promoting democracy.
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Speaker 3: It's innumerable evil deeds have caused grave harm and drawn
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Speaker 3: strong condemnation from the international community. So it's quite clear
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Speaker 3: what China think about that. The question is how much
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Speaker 3: control will Trump have over this organization, And indeed, specifically
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Speaker 3: with regard to Hong Kong, of course, another significant trading
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Speaker 3: partner of Israel. They say that they've long been colluding
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Speaker 3: with those who attempt to destabilize Hong Kong by providing
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Speaker 3: funds and public support, and it goes on to talk
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Speaker 3: about three hundred and ten thousand US dollars provided to
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Speaker 3: deal with such projects in the year twenty twenty. Now,
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Speaker 3: of course, the NED is not merely concerned with China
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Speaker 3: and or Hong Kong, but also of in recent years
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Speaker 3: has interests in the United Kingdom, as described here by
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Speaker 3: Declassified UK, who wrote back in twenty twenty two about
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Speaker 3: money that's gone to what they describe as investigative groups
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Speaker 3: such as Bellancat, Finance Uncovered and Open Democracy, as well
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Speaker 3: as Media Freedom and Training Organization's Index on Censorship Article nineteen,
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Speaker 3: the Legal Sorry, the Media Legal Defense Initiative, and the
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Speaker 3: Thompson Reuters Foundation. So I've highlighted media freedom and training
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Speaker 3: organizations because of course those of you listening to UK
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Speaker 3: column regularly that will ring a bell in relation to
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Speaker 3: the BBC media action. I think the point really here
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Speaker 3: is that there is certainly the opportunity for Trump to
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Speaker 3: provide a lot of rhetoric about the relationship with China,
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Speaker 3: but the question is how much of a grip will
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Speaker 3: he really have on determining what the future relationship between
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Speaker 3: the United States and China is going to be.
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Speaker 1: None at all in my opinion, and really at the
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Speaker 1: end of the day that the policy will be just
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Speaker 1: pretty much the same as we would have had Oder Harris.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, let's welcome Finessa the program, Vanessa, welcome and
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Speaker 1: bring us up to dit. Then what's been going on
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Speaker 1: in Lebanon.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll cover some of the more pertinent news items.
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Speaker 8: We can discuss further in extra but this, first of
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Speaker 8: all is in the Financial Times or the Israeli demolitions
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Speaker 8: clearing Israel's first Belt as they call it in Lebanon.
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Speaker 8: So let's have a look at what that means. This
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Speaker 8: was the map produced by FT showing the villages within
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Speaker 8: a three kilometer kind of buffer zone that Israel is
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Speaker 8: claiming it's trying to create. This could well be a
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Speaker 8: sort of a safe a face saving exercise, as they've
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Speaker 8: failed entirely to actually invey very far into this area
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Speaker 8: at all, despite throwing thousands of troops at it and
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Speaker 8: facing on average seven to eight has Blah fighters within
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Speaker 8: each village. However, what they have been doing is basically
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Speaker 8: demolishing vast areas of the villages along this belt. And
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Speaker 8: the next sort of infograph shows that one of the
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Speaker 8: worst hits is a village called Mahabib, which is on
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Speaker 8: a hilltop, a historic village, and we actually have a
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Speaker 8: video of the detonation of what is it, sixty nine
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Speaker 8: percent of this whole village. And in this way, basically
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Speaker 8: Israel has destroyed vaswaths of habitation and farmland in this
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Speaker 8: particular three kilometer belt, but also deeper into Lebanon, as
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Speaker 8: we'll talk about this also from the ft. While Israeli
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Speaker 8: officials repeat that their war is with his Bolla and
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Speaker 8: not with the Lebanese people, experts question Israel's systematic attempt
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Speaker 8: to clear the area. Alonso ger Mendi Dunkelberg, an expert
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Speaker 8: on international law at the London School of Economics, disputed
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Speaker 8: Israel's notion that these villages are valid military targets, saying
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Speaker 8: that the existence of hezbolar infrastructure in a civilian area
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Speaker 8: is not enough to justify its controlled demolition, even if
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Speaker 8: the assets could be used against Israel in the future.
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Speaker 8: And again I have to remind everybody that the military
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Speaker 8: installations in the center of Tel Aviv, which of course
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Speaker 8: is a bustling residential city that is never called out
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Speaker 8: in any media reports. This was back in October twenty
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Speaker 8: twenty two. Domicide must be recognized as an international crime
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Speaker 8: because it is the destruction not only of people's homes,
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Speaker 8: but their entire sustenance, their entire way of life. And
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Speaker 8: then in addition to this, this was ashen Ratanzi on x.
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Speaker 8: Israel is threatening to bomb Bulbek in Lubanon and has
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Speaker 8: ordered the evacuation of the entire historic city. I can't
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Speaker 8: remember the population, but it's thousands, which has a history
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Speaker 8: of at least eleven thousand years. The city has been
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Speaker 8: declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Its famous Temple of
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Speaker 8: Jupiter and Temple of Bakas now faced destruction by Israel
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Speaker 8: with US UK EU weaponry. Israel's action mirror Isis, of course,
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Speaker 8: which destroyed the ancient city of Palmira in Syria. Isis are,
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Speaker 8: of course sponsored by Israel to carry out regime change
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Speaker 8: in Syria. This cultural genocide and attack on history brought
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Speaker 8: to you by the same nations that claim they are civilized.
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Speaker 8: Very good point from Asshin, and then let's have a
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Speaker 8: look at al Akabar English Lebanese media on telegram barbarians
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Speaker 8: in Palestine and Lebanon Israel as an enemy of civilization.
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Speaker 8: Remember Natanyahu is constantly claiming they are fighting the war
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Speaker 8: against the barbarians. On the eve of the two thousand
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Speaker 8: and six war, FEDUS performed on Balbek's Roman steps for
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Speaker 8: the Balbek International Festivals Golden Jubilee. Just a day later,
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Speaker 8: war broke out and Balbek's centuries old site fell silent.
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Speaker 8: Eighteen years later, Israel once again targets the symbols of
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Speaker 8: heritage with bombs striking as close as five hundred meters
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Speaker 8: from the Temple of Jupiter. The city of Balbek, a
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Speaker 8: UNESCO World Heritage Site, represents nine thousand years of human history,
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Speaker 8: its grand structures reflecting the legacy of Phoenician and Roman cultures.
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Speaker 8: And we have to remember this is the eradication of
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Speaker 8: a heritage, of a culture, of a history, just as
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Speaker 8: the US did, of course to the indigenous peoples in America,
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Speaker 8: and as was done to the indigenous peoples in Australia, etc.
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Speaker 8: This is what the civilized countries do to the so
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Speaker 8: called uncivilized countries. Then let's have a look at the
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Speaker 8: justification for this. So, of course this was back in
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Speaker 8: March twenty twenty four on the right at times of Israel.
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Speaker 8: Lebanese media reports Israeli strikes in Bulbak hours after Hezbela
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Speaker 8: drone attack, and it goes on to say this is
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Speaker 8: a Hezbela stronghold. And then today or in the last
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Speaker 8: few days, this was CBC Israeli strikes threatened Billa stronghold
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Speaker 8: and secondary it's nearly three thousand year old Roman ruins,
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Speaker 8: of course, much older than that. Then, if we look
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Speaker 8: at the Hague Convention of course on Cultural Heritage and
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Speaker 8: Armed conflicts, any damage to cultural property, irrespective of the
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Speaker 8: people it belongs to, is a damage to the cultural
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Speaker 8: heritage of humanity, because every people constitutes the world's culture.
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Speaker 8: That's the Hague Convention. So again another convention that Israel
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Speaker 8: is basically violating. And then in the same area, the
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Speaker 8: Lebanese Health Ministry announced that Tibneen Governmental Hospital sustains severe
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Speaker 8: damage from Israeli asterikes in its vicinity, prompting an ongoing
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Speaker 8: assessment of the hospital's condition to determine whether it can
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Speaker 8: remain open, with the safety of its staff as the
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Speaker 8: top priority. Additionally, Bulbeck Governmental Hospital, which is overcrowded with
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Speaker 8: patients and the injured, also so material damage from nearby strikes. Furthermore,
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Speaker 8: Israeli forces targeted the Islamic Health Authority the Civil Defense
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Speaker 8: in Basurier, South Lebanon, resulting in the martyrdom of two paramedics.
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Speaker 8: The Ministry held Israel fully responsible for these breaches of
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Speaker 8: international and humanitarian laws and expressed astonishment at the international
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Speaker 8: communities silence towards such a humanitarian violation, which makes essential
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Speaker 8: medical care a dangerous task. So there's now I think
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Speaker 8: eight hospitals in and in southern Lebanon and across Lebanon
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Speaker 8: that are basically non operational. The Balbeck Hospital is still
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Speaker 8: operating despite having been given orders to evacuate by Israel.
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Speaker 8: This was a series of tweets put out by Hala Jabba,
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Speaker 8: who was a former Sunday Times correspondent, very an expert
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Speaker 8: really on the Middle East, has written books about Iraq
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Speaker 8: and Hasbula. So people will remember that we talked about
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Speaker 8: the u US embassy in Lubanon, which is effectively when
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Speaker 8: you look at the photo and military base. There has
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Speaker 8: always been questions and raised brows as to why Washington
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Speaker 8: needs to build a mammoth embassy sprawling over a forty
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Speaker 8: three acre site at an estimated cost of one billion
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Speaker 8: US dollars in this tiny country of only ten four
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Speaker 8: hundred and fifty two square kilometers in size. The complex,
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Speaker 8: located in the suburbs of Orco, is about thirteen kilometers
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Speaker 8: eight miles from the center of Beirut. It's almost two
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Speaker 8: and a half times the size of the land of
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Speaker 8: the White House, the land the White House sits on,
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Speaker 8: and more than twenty one soccer fields. It is the
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Speaker 8: second largest embassy in the world after Iraqs. And then
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Speaker 8: let's see what the US has been up to. So
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Speaker 8: bear in mind Israel is destroying hospitals in Lubanon, just
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Speaker 8: as it did in Gaza previously. In Balbeck itself in
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Speaker 8: more than one hundred civilians were killed. But this is
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Speaker 8: what the US embassy is doing to help the situation.
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Speaker 8: They have turned into Lebanon's dictator and is now imposing
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Speaker 8: restrictions on certain flights bringing humanitarian aid to the country,
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Speaker 8: forcing them to first land in Jordan for inspection, which
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Speaker 8: means it was by Israel. The embassy in Auco has
22:22
Speaker 8: also threatened Lebanon's national carrier mea Middle East Airlines with
22:26
Speaker 8: sanctions should it transport injured people for treatment abroad. So
22:31
Speaker 8: not only are hospitals being bombed and civilians being targeted,
22:35
Speaker 8: but now they are being prevented medical evacuation. Sorry, can
22:38
Speaker 8: I just go back for one second? Mic The embassy
22:42
Speaker 8: is also receiving a daily manifesto from IATA of the
22:48
Speaker 8: names of all passengers traveling to and from Lebanon's airport
22:52
Speaker 8: as part of its blatant intrusion in the country's internal
22:57
Speaker 8: affairs and free movement. And then lastly, she says, Washington
23:02
Speaker 8: Virus Embassy in Lebanon, on behalf of Israel, has already
23:05
Speaker 8: blocked Iraqi Airlines from landing in Birit's International airport to
23:09
Speaker 8: deliver much needed assistance for the hundreds of thousands of
23:12
Speaker 8: displaced people without first stopping and Jordan for inspection. Walker
23:17
Speaker 8: also forced Middle East Airlines to comply with its orders
23:20
Speaker 8: not to transport injured people from Lebanon on its flights
23:23
Speaker 8: for treatment abroad, especially those injured in the pager and
23:27
Speaker 8: telecommunications bombings on the sixteenth and sixth seventeenth of September,
23:32
Speaker 8: by threatening to impost sanctions should it disobey so extraordinary
23:36
Speaker 8: interference in Lebanon's affairs by the US again on behalf
23:41
Speaker 8: of Israel, utterly criminal.
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24:42
Speaker 1: Tomorrow at one pm we are putting out a brief
24:47
Speaker 1: discussion that I had with Jose Vega and then showing
24:51
Speaker 1: a presentation given by doctor Mark Pulmetter sorry pull Mutter
24:56
Speaker 1: at over the weekend in New York. He has been
25:02
Speaker 1: working in Gaza for a number of weeks and was
25:07
Speaker 1: giving a presentation or he was going to give a
25:09
Speaker 1: presentation about his experience there, about the types of injuries
25:13
Speaker 1: that he was saying about the types of people that
25:15
Speaker 1: were being injured and the types of conditions that he's
25:18
Speaker 1: having to operate under was having to operate under. Now,
25:22
Speaker 1: that was to take place in the Sorry I've lost that, Yeah, sorry,
25:30
Speaker 1: the he Can School of Medicine at Mount Sinai Hospital,
25:34
Speaker 1: and that was immediately canceled following pressure from the Israeli
25:38
Speaker 1: lobby that claimed anti Semitism and so on. So Jose
25:42
Speaker 1: Vega arranged another venue for this event and it took place.
25:46
Speaker 1: We're going to show this tomorrow and this we're showing it,
25:49
Speaker 1: especially for all the people who criticize our position on
25:52
Speaker 1: Gaza and criticize us for taking an anti Israel point
25:56
Speaker 1: of view. I'm going to warn everybody now that prome
26:00
Speaker 1: Better does not attempt to hide the reality of what
26:03
Speaker 1: he's had to deal with on the ground in Gaza
26:05
Speaker 1: and the imagery that he shows as part of this
26:08
Speaker 1: presentation is hard to view, but I absolutely encourage everybody
26:13
Speaker 1: to stick with it and watch this to the end,
26:15
Speaker 1: because we do not get any kind of real indication
26:18
Speaker 1: about what's going on in there from the mainstream press,
26:21
Speaker 1: and unless you're particularly interested to go and look at
26:25
Speaker 1: some of the images that appear on social media, you
26:27
Speaker 1: don't really understand what is going on. So the images
26:32
Speaker 1: that he shows are perhaps could be described as being
26:36
Speaker 1: challenging at the very least. I'm therefore going to challenge
26:38
Speaker 1: everyone to watch this in full. As I say, you're
26:41
Speaker 1: not going to see that on the mainstream media, and
26:44
Speaker 1: it is going to be a hard watch, but please
26:47
Speaker 1: do watch it and encourage everybody else to watch it
26:50
Speaker 1: if they can. Quick reminder that the interview that Brian
26:54
Speaker 1: did with Rachel speaking from New Zealand about what she
26:57
Speaker 1: experienced during COVID is on the un call A website.
27:01
Speaker 1: Now if you didn't see it yesterday, go and have
27:03
Speaker 1: a look. Like to mention this petition entitled Insure Diagnosis
27:09
Speaker 1: and Treatment for People Suffering from Adverse COVID nineteen vaccine
27:13
Speaker 1: side effects. This is on the Welsh Government petition website.
27:16
Speaker 1: This is a lady called Allison from Care Philly who
27:20
Speaker 1: has had a diagnosis of COVID COVID vaccine injuries. She
27:25
Speaker 1: needs help obtaining signatures. Please do share this and sign
27:30
Speaker 1: it yourself if you possibly can, and also want to
27:33
Speaker 1: mention Alexander Bittner. Now this is a serving German military
27:40
Speaker 1: sergeant I believe, who has just been put in prison
27:43
Speaker 1: for six months for refusing to serve on the basis
27:49
Speaker 1: that he would not take a COVID nineteen vaccine. So
27:55
Speaker 1: the details will be in the show notes if you
27:56
Speaker 1: want to go and sign the open letter which is
27:58
Speaker 1: demanding his release. And this very briefly. If you're in
28:02
Speaker 1: any way interested in the US election, Doc Malick is
28:05
Speaker 1: holding a special podcast tonight. Get along to that if
28:11
Speaker 1: you would like to have a look at it. Okay,
28:14
Speaker 1: now let's move on to climate change, and of course
28:18
Speaker 1: the events that we saw recently in Valencia have been
28:22
Speaker 1: blamed on climate change. The pretty horrific video footage that
28:27
Speaker 1: we've seen so supposedly two hundred and seventeen dead so far.
28:32
Speaker 1: I've seen some very disparate estimates about people that are missing,
28:38
Speaker 1: and I think this is because the mainstream media seems
28:41
Speaker 1: to be splitting up the coverage now to make it
28:44
Speaker 1: sort of regional. So I've seen numbers anything from eighty
28:47
Speaker 1: nine people missing to around two thousand people still missing
28:50
Speaker 1: on this. I don't know what the truth of that is,
28:53
Speaker 1: but nonetheless people still missing. Now we should actually recogniz
29:00
Speaker 1: that if we look at what has been going on
29:02
Speaker 1: in Valencia over the years, there have been major floods
29:05
Speaker 1: there for hundreds of years and certainly since the city
29:10
Speaker 1: was founded. So if we do a quick translation on this,
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Speaker 1: the first great flood in the history of Valencia was
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Speaker 1: in fifteen seventeen. It knocked down three bridges out of
29:17
Speaker 1: five and there were hundreds of dead. So this isn't
29:20
Speaker 1: something that has just suddenly started happening. This is something
29:23
Speaker 1: that's been going on for centuries. And the question is
29:26
Speaker 1: whether this has got anything to do with the climate
29:29
Speaker 1: change narrative, and of course I would argue that it hasn't.
29:34
Speaker 1: The last major flood was in nineteen fifty seven, and
29:38
Speaker 1: well that also carried or caused significant numbers of deaths.
29:44
Speaker 1: But the point here is that in the recent years
29:50
Speaker 1: the flood defenses have been systematically removed in many cases
29:57
Speaker 1: in this area. So why has that happened but because
30:00
Speaker 1: of the EU Water Framework Directive. So if we have
30:03
Speaker 1: a look at this article here from the headlined successes
30:08
Speaker 1: of EU Water Framework Directive Implementation, this is in fact
30:13
Speaker 1: talking about they were focusing on a whole bunch of
30:20
Speaker 1: different countries Spain, France, Belgium and the United Kingdom, and
30:23
Speaker 1: in this case they were talking about the diversion of
30:25
Speaker 1: the Amin river there in order to save the wildlife.
30:30
Speaker 1: And in fact, if we should put this in the
30:33
Speaker 1: context of this article from El Espaniel as well, which
30:37
Speaker 1: is saying that the Roman dam that prevented the floods
30:41
Speaker 1: from destroying everything, two thousand years later, it's still working.
30:44
Speaker 1: So the point here is that actually what seems to
30:47
Speaker 1: have happened is that the modern flood defenses have not
30:51
Speaker 1: coped with this latest flood. That the two thousand year
30:54
Speaker 1: old dam built by the Romans did cope with the
30:57
Speaker 1: recent flood and certainly helped in the area that it
30:59
Speaker 1: is in. But these people died mainly as a result
31:03
Speaker 1: not of climate change, because as we say, these things
31:06
Speaker 1: have been going on for many, many centuries, but as
31:09
Speaker 1: a result of policy and the decision by governments to
31:13
Speaker 1: remove flood mitigation and to in fact make the river
31:19
Speaker 1: more suitable for a return to the wildlife that they
31:23
Speaker 1: perceive to be necessary under their climate change narrative. But
31:29
Speaker 1: don't worry if this is causing you mental anguish and
31:33
Speaker 1: mental health problems. The government is coming to the rescue
31:37
Speaker 1: in the UK here and the UK Health Security Agency
31:41
Speaker 1: has decided to launch a call for evidence on mental
31:44
Speaker 1: health and climate change in the UK. And well, they're
31:48
Speaker 1: saying that they're going to investigate the pathways between climate
31:51
Speaker 1: change and mental health impacts and relation to the UK.
31:54
Speaker 1: They're going to identify populations most at risk from the
31:57
Speaker 1: mental health impacts of climate change, and they're going to
32:00
Speaker 1: investigate the evidence for mental health interventions and adaptations in
32:04
Speaker 1: relation to climate change, both within the UK and applicable
32:08
Speaker 1: for the UK. So that's very good, isn't it? But
32:11
Speaker 1: question is what are they actually doing here? And I
32:14
Speaker 1: would suggest that perhaps what they're doing is looking to
32:18
Speaker 1: see what kind of effect climate change narratives that are
32:21
Speaker 1: being pushed out by mainstream press and also by the
32:25
Speaker 1: government and so on, what effects are these having on populations,
32:30
Speaker 1: Because if we remember back to COVID nineteen and the
32:34
Speaker 1: spy b subgroup of stage. They were looking at options
32:39
Speaker 1: for increasing adherence to social distancing measures. This is from
32:42
Speaker 1: the twenty second of March twenty twenty. These are the
32:44
Speaker 1: minutes of the meeting and they were talking about at
32:47
Speaker 1: that time if you remember the use of the media
32:50
Speaker 1: to increase the sense of personal threat, and if you
32:53
Speaker 1: look under the title or under the heading effectiveness there
32:56
Speaker 1: it says it's high if accompanied by other options. But
32:59
Speaker 1: when we look at what they say is spillover effects,
33:01
Speaker 1: we might call them side effects. Those could be negative.
33:05
Speaker 1: So what is actually going on here? Well, I suspect
33:08
Speaker 1: what is happening is that the UKHSA is in fact
33:11
Speaker 1: looking to see if they're heading the spot with the
33:14
Speaker 1: climate change narrative or whether they're going a bit too
33:17
Speaker 1: far and pushing people over the edge. How many people
33:20
Speaker 1: are pushing over the edge as a result of it,
33:22
Speaker 1: And this is really about measuring how successful there applied
33:28
Speaker 1: psychology is in this area, just as they were doing
33:31
Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. We can talk a bit more about
33:35
Speaker 1: that and extra as well. But let's come back to
33:37
Speaker 1: you then, Vanessa and well Israel having it all their
33:42
Speaker 1: own way?
33:44
Speaker 8: Not really? No, I mean what I am saying is
33:48
Speaker 8: an absolute increase in the censorship of people that are
33:52
Speaker 8: legitimately speaking out against genocide. And of course we've been
33:56
Speaker 8: talking about that with the anti terrorist law in the
34:00
Speaker 8: UK and how it's effectively being abused to punish collectively
34:05
Speaker 8: punish people who are protesting genocide. But now you have
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Speaker 8: Francesca Albanese who wanted to go to Canada to meet
34:17
Speaker 8: politicians and the Israel lobby. This is from the blog
34:22
Speaker 8: of Dmitri Lascaris, lawyer and journalist, and let's see what
34:27
Speaker 8: she's saying that is upsetting them so much. Basically, the
34:32
Speaker 8: Center for Israel and Jewish Affairs are demanding that she's
34:36
Speaker 8: banned from the country and stripped of her diplomatic community.
34:40
Speaker 8: Of course, she's the Special Reporteur for the Situation of
34:43
Speaker 8: Human Rights in Palestinian Territories, so she provides more documentation
34:48
Speaker 8: in her most recent report to the UN to support
34:51
Speaker 8: the claim the accusation of genocide in Gaza is not
34:54
Speaker 8: just plausible, but all too real and part of a
34:57
Speaker 8: long term Israeli planned to displace the Palestinian She also
35:01
Speaker 8: warns that Israeli actions now extend beyond Gaza and there
35:05
Speaker 8: is a risk of the genocide extending in the West
35:08
Speaker 8: Bank and Jerusalem, and of course we're seeing in Lovanon also,
35:12
Speaker 8: and she says the violence that Israel has unleashed against
35:15
Speaker 8: the Palestinians is part of a long term, intentional, systematic
35:18
Speaker 8: state organized false displacement and replacement of the Palestinians. This
35:24
Speaker 8: trajectory risks causing irreparable prejudice to the very existence of
35:28
Speaker 8: the Palestinian people in Palestine. And this she said on
35:32
Speaker 8: the first of October twenty twenty four. And of course
35:36
Speaker 8: she's calling for sanctions on Israel. She's calling for all
35:40
Speaker 8: sorts of solutions. I do recommend people actually watch her
35:43
Speaker 8: press conference, which she handled masterfully. But it's not only
35:48
Speaker 8: Francesca Albanese following as a Belgian workies workers Party, sorry
35:55
Speaker 8: MP Nabil Bukili speaking to the Israeli ambassid the idiot
36:01
Speaker 8: Rosen like the Belgian Parliament. In the last few days.
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Speaker 7: Espana.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's safe to say that when
38:40
Speaker 8: we see this level of censorship, we have to sense
38:44
Speaker 8: a degree of desperation from the powers that be at
38:50
Speaker 8: the vulnerability of their gender and how people are hopefully
38:54
Speaker 8: starting to really see through it. This was a tweet
38:57
Speaker 8: by Claire Rodgers, who's the mother of Zoe Rah, who's
39:00
Speaker 8: one of the Filton Ten who's currently in prison, and
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Speaker 8: she'll be there until I think it's November twenty twenty five,
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Speaker 8: when her case will finally be heard, and as her
39:12
Speaker 8: mother says, I do again recommend reading the entire thread.
39:16
Speaker 8: She talks about a change dot org petition calling for
39:20
Speaker 8: an end to the abuse of the anti terrorist laws
39:24
Speaker 8: to effectively punish incorrectly legally the activists against genocide. So
39:33
Speaker 8: this is part of the actual petition itself, of course,
39:37
Speaker 8: the link to it will be in the show notes.
39:40
Speaker 8: Action against Israeli weapons in the UK. The Fulton Ten
39:43
Speaker 8: are charged with taking direct action in August this year
39:47
Speaker 8: to disable weapons at a facility belonging to Israel's largest
39:50
Speaker 8: arms manufacturer, Albert Systems, in Bristol. The weapons included drones
39:55
Speaker 8: currently being used in Gaza, which mimic the sounds of
39:58
Speaker 8: children in distress in order to draw civilians out to help,
40:02
Speaker 8: in order to then kill them. Six of the ten
40:05
Speaker 8: were arrested on site. Four were arrested in raids on
40:08
Speaker 8: their homes by County Terrorism Police, one of them at gunpoint.
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Speaker 8: Who is behind this chilling repression of activists? There is
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Speaker 8: evidence of conversations between the Home Office, the CPS, the
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Speaker 8: Crown Prosecution Service, the Israeli Embassy and Albert Systems UK
40:24
Speaker 8: about stopping pro Palestine activists, which is deeply concerning. It
40:29
Speaker 8: then goes on to say, and this for me is
40:31
Speaker 8: really the most concerning. Treated like terrorists? Why are our
40:36
Speaker 8: loved ones being treated like terrorists? Six of them are
40:38
Speaker 8: aged twenty to thirty. All have strong social consciences. Many
40:43
Speaker 8: do voluntary work to help vulnerable people in their communities.
40:47
Speaker 8: They couldn't bear to see the scale of suffering of
40:50
Speaker 8: innocent people in Gaza, especially children, and strongly oppose the
40:54
Speaker 8: genocide that Albert Systems is profiting from and that the
40:57
Speaker 8: UK government is complicit. N Yet, in a flagrant abuse
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Speaker 8: of counter terrorism powers, the ten were held in communicado
41:05
Speaker 8: in solitary confinement and interrogated constantly for a week without charge,
41:11
Speaker 8: despite only subsequently being charged with non terror offenses including
41:15
Speaker 8: aggravated burglary and criminal damage. They have been held in
41:19
Speaker 8: prison on pre trial remand since then and are still
41:23
Speaker 8: being subjected to greater restrictions upon their rights and freedoms
41:27
Speaker 8: than those faced by regular prisoners in spurious counter terrorism grounds.
41:33
Speaker 8: This has included being denied reading materials, the right to
41:36
Speaker 8: practice religion, intrusive medical testing, restrictions on association with other prisoners,
41:43
Speaker 8: and communications with the outside world. One of the ten
41:47
Speaker 8: has been designated an escape risk without due cause, so
41:51
Speaker 8: that they are subjected to additional ill treatment, being woken
41:55
Speaker 8: up every hour, all night, every night. This sleep deprivation
41:59
Speaker 8: is clearly politically motivated form of psychological torture. Absolutely awful
42:07
Speaker 8: stage that we've reached.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Vanessa and Charles, you've got more on a similar topic.
42:17
Speaker 3: Yes, I will sort of get to that, but as
42:20
Speaker 3: Vanessa points out, this is becoming, well it has been
42:23
Speaker 3: for some time in humane, and I think that just
42:25
Speaker 3: to follow on directly from what she's just said, you know,
42:28
Speaker 3: it's interesting to know that despite the enormous amount of
42:31
Speaker 3: disruption caused by people protesting apparently in the name of
42:33
Speaker 3: climate change, that they have not been met with the
42:37
Speaker 3: same sorts of measures. But anyway, the message we're supposed
42:41
Speaker 3: to receive, of course, is that the threat from terror
42:44
Speaker 3: and terrorism is very present and the House of Lords
42:47
Speaker 3: even have been concentrating on this with an in focused
42:51
Speaker 3: paper from last Friday, the first of November entitled the
42:55
Speaker 3: threat posed by Hesbalah and they say, or at least
42:58
Speaker 3: this was prompted by Lord Godson can servative member to
43:01
Speaker 3: ask His Majesty's government what assessment they've made of the
43:04
Speaker 3: threat from Hesbala to the United Kingdom, firstly since the
43:08
Speaker 3: group has prescribed in its entirety in twenty nineteen and
43:10
Speaker 3: secondly since the assassination of its leader Hassan Astralla on
43:13
Speaker 3: the twenty seventh of September. Well to avoid disappointment, they
43:17
Speaker 3: don't really particularly answer those questions, specifically with regard to
43:20
Speaker 3: the threat to the United Kingdom. But what is interesting
43:23
Speaker 3: is that one of their references was a BBC article
43:26
Speaker 3: going back to twenty nineteen about the prescription of Hesberlab,
43:29
Speaker 3: which was done by the then Home Secretary Saja Javid,
43:34
Speaker 3: reinforced by Jeremy Hunt, who, with absolutely no evidence substantiate
43:39
Speaker 3: his point, said it is clear that the distinction between
43:41
Speaker 3: Hesbela's military and political wings does not exist, and by
43:44
Speaker 3: prescribing Hesbala in all its forms, the government is sending
43:47
Speaker 3: a clear signal that its destabilizing activities in the region
43:51
Speaker 3: are totally unacceptable and detrimental to the UK's national security.
43:56
Speaker 3: As I say, this is Javid and Hunt back then
43:59
Speaker 3: effectively talking about this threat to the United Kingdom's national security,
44:03
Speaker 3: but not explaining how why that was actually the case.
44:07
Speaker 3: Now I'm speaking from Hong Kong, and in making my
44:10
Speaker 3: travel arrangements, I was surprised to see an adversement pop
44:13
Speaker 3: up for terrorism cover from four pounds ninety six. I'm
44:17
Speaker 3: not sure how much cover that gets you, but nonetheless
44:20
Speaker 3: this relates to government document guidance on foreign travel insurance,
44:25
Speaker 3: which has been in existence since twenty thirteen but beefed
44:28
Speaker 3: up over the years, talking specifically about cover that you
44:31
Speaker 3: might have against such incidents. And as an example, we've
44:35
Speaker 3: got the Post Office here with trip disruption cover. I
44:38
Speaker 3: thought interesting to see how the conflation of terrorism with
44:42
Speaker 3: COVID nineteen natural catastrophes and airspace disruption was being done. Now,
44:49
Speaker 3: as an extension of that, we have the recent reporting,
44:53
Speaker 3: in this case from The Guardian about apparent incendiary devices
44:57
Speaker 3: being found on aircraft DHL aircraft that they say may
45:03
Speaker 3: have been a dry run for US and Canada, effectively
45:05
Speaker 3: suggesting that the Russian state was behind this, and apart
45:09
Speaker 3: from being an exhibition in the use of conditional language,
45:13
Speaker 3: they were not able to back this up at all
45:16
Speaker 3: and had to concede that even the Metropolitan Police counter
45:19
Speaker 3: terror officers declined to comment. Now what I find most
45:22
Speaker 3: ironic was at the bottom of this Guardian article they
45:26
Speaker 3: effectively cry their eyes out by explaining all the troubles
45:30
Speaker 3: they face, saying, this is what we're up against, the
45:33
Speaker 3: top one being bad actors spreading disinformation online to fuel intolerance,
45:38
Speaker 3: which puts one rather in mind of pots and kettles
45:42
Speaker 3: on Twitter. We see that the counter terrorism policing are advertising,
45:48
Speaker 3: so again reinforcing this message. We really do have a
45:51
Speaker 3: threat facing us, And they say, think you have what
45:53
Speaker 3: it takes to protect the UK, And then I would
45:55
Speaker 3: have said slightly removing any confidence by saying that counter
45:58
Speaker 3: terrorism policing is more than meets the eye and you
46:00
Speaker 3: won't always need a background insecurity to join, which one
46:03
Speaker 3: is exactly where they're going to be going with this.
46:05
Speaker 3: And then, of course the other thing they've gone on
46:07
Speaker 3: at the minute is Martin's Law, written in the Labor Manifesto,
46:11
Speaker 3: the Terrorism Protection of Premises Bill, the fact sheet which
46:15
Speaker 3: they're again very much pushing now the requirements that venues
46:19
Speaker 3: will have to go through in order to apparently mitigate
46:21
Speaker 3: against or prevent terrorist occurrences. Of course, there's very little
46:25
Speaker 3: detail on this, but the words digital identity spring to mind.
46:29
Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: To continue the theme that Vanessa had started, which is
46:33
Speaker 3: effectively the persecution of individuals by using terror legislation, I
46:38
Speaker 3: would like to look at Professor Haimbrusheth, who is a
46:43
Speaker 3: Jewish Israeli academic and filmmaker, and he has had an
46:48
Speaker 3: incident that you may well be aware of on Friday.
46:50
Speaker 3: But just before we look at that, I'm just going
46:52
Speaker 3: to show a short clip of him effectively expounding his
46:56
Speaker 3: anti Zionist philosophy.
47:00
Speaker 10: What we want, of course, is not a ceasfire. A
47:03
Speaker 10: ceasfire is nothing because a ceasfire it means that the
47:07
Speaker 10: fire will start again. No, we want the end of
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Speaker 10: the Zionist project and a new Palestine where Jews, Christians
47:17
Speaker 10: and Muslims can live like they did in Alan de LUs,
47:22
Speaker 10: like they lived in Palestine, like they lived in the
47:24
Speaker 10: Ottoman Empire, like they lived in South Africa like they
47:28
Speaker 10: lived under the Mughals, like they lived in most of
47:32
Speaker 10: North Africa and the Middle East, without genocide, without anti
47:40
Speaker 10: Semitism or Islamophobia.
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Speaker 3: All right, at first chance, he seems like a perfectly
47:48
Speaker 3: reasonable man expanding reasonable views. But this was too much
47:51
Speaker 3: for the Metropolitan Police who arrested him under the Terrorism
47:54
Speaker 3: Act on Friday whilst he was speaking, or rather just
47:58
Speaker 3: after he'd spoken outside the residents of the Israeli Ambassador
48:02
Speaker 3: to the United Kingdom, and just to highlight the way
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Speaker 3: in which this is used and indeed the inn attitude
48:08
Speaker 3: that comes with it, we'll just look at a short
48:10
Speaker 3: video of the arrest itself. You know, the speech.
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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, Jesus against what somebody else, probably not in
48:37
Speaker 2: this demonstration. You're crazy.
48:39
Speaker 3: You don't have to say anything.
48:41
Speaker 5: You know.
48:43
Speaker 2: Crazy, You're crazy.
48:55
Speaker 1: I don't understand why.
48:58
Speaker 2: You need to tell him what he's but he's said.
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Speaker 3: Obviously regarded my apologies. If you couldn't really particularly hear that,
49:13
Speaker 3: it's not necessarily because the audio wasn't very good. It
49:15
Speaker 3: is because the police comfortable was effectively completely mumbling his words,
49:18
Speaker 3: which suggests two things. First of all, he had absolutely
49:21
Speaker 3: no idea what he was talking about, and indeed did
49:24
Speaker 3: not have the courage of his conviction. But also that
49:26
Speaker 3: suggests that he was being directed to make that arrest
49:29
Speaker 3: and it wasn't in fact his own decision, which is
49:32
Speaker 3: something I think we can go into in greater detail
49:34
Speaker 3: in extra But the point is he said that the
49:37
Speaker 3: offense that was committed was hate speech, and yet he
49:40
Speaker 3: was being arrested under the Terrorism at two thousand. Now,
49:43
Speaker 3: there is no particular point of legislation that specifically states
49:47
Speaker 3: hate speech. But what he's really meaning then is put
49:50
Speaker 3: the public order at nineteen eighty six. But of course
49:52
Speaker 3: he talks about the Terrorism at two thousand, and in
49:55
Speaker 3: effect he meant the support under Action twelve of the
50:00
Speaker 3: Terrorism Act, support of a prescribed organization. So we look
50:04
Speaker 3: at now the squawk Box, who were in touch with
50:07
Speaker 3: the Met Police about this, and they managed to effectively
50:11
Speaker 3: get to the heart of the matter and understand what
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Speaker 3: it was that he'd been arrested for, which, as I say,
50:16
Speaker 3: was support for a prescribed organization. So therefore let's just
50:18
Speaker 3: have a look at what it was that prompted that
50:20
Speaker 3: he said in his seven minute speech. But Israel cannot
50:23
Speaker 3: celebrate either it has not achieved any of its declared aims,
50:27
Speaker 3: either in Gaza, in Lebanon, in Iran, or anywhere else.
50:30
Speaker 3: They cannot win against Hamas, they cannot win against Hasbula,
50:33
Speaker 3: They cannot win against the who theis. And he goes on,
50:37
Speaker 3: we will continue to be arrested when the people who
50:39
Speaker 3: are actually doing the genocide are protected by all the
50:42
Speaker 3: police and the armies and the governments of the West everywhere.
50:46
Speaker 3: Now he's been I would say prescient in that, But
50:49
Speaker 3: to consider that we live in a world now where
50:53
Speaker 3: simply criticizing Israel, and indeed referencing in an objective sense
50:58
Speaker 3: either Hamas or has Bala can get you arrested in
51:01
Speaker 3: the United Kingdom is extremely disturbing. Of course, I'm not
51:03
Speaker 3: suggesting this is new. This has been going on for
51:05
Speaker 3: a long time, but very particularly ramped up during twenty
51:08
Speaker 3: twenty four. Or do now is just look at the
51:11
Speaker 3: sort of closing part of Aim Breshid's speech from that night.
51:17
Speaker 11: They have colonized the Western governments and we need to
51:23
Speaker 11: bring an end to that. The people in the West
51:27
Speaker 11: must stand up against our own governments.
51:32
Speaker 12: No which supported genocide should sit in government anyway.
51:37
Speaker 8: They should sit in jail.
51:41
Speaker 7: Now.
51:41
Speaker 12: The other area, which I'm very worried about because I'm
51:45
Speaker 12: an academic, they have colonized all the universities in the West,
51:51
Speaker 12: and we are not able to speak there. Even academics
51:55
Speaker 12: are not allowed to speak in universities. If you are
51:58
Speaker 12: speaking against that, we must decolonize the higher.
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Speaker 13: Education system and the whole education system. And last, but
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Speaker 13: not least, I think we must, we must decolonize the
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Speaker 13: whole system of the media, which is supporting, which is aiding,
52:26
Speaker 13: which is abetting, aiding and abetting.
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Speaker 3: Israel and it's genocide everywhere. As I say, we'll go
52:42
Speaker 3: into much greater detail on that in extra but his
52:44
Speaker 3: closing part, they're concerned the behavior of the mainstream media,
52:48
Speaker 3: which is therefore our time to mention the censorship of course,
52:52
Speaker 3: that we face as alternative or independent media. And if
52:55
Speaker 3: you haven't yet watched the recording that Mike, Brian and
52:59
Speaker 3: I are made with will Zie of Resistance GB, then
53:02
Speaker 3: please do takeing the fight to the censors and the
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Speaker 3: launch of our campaign to join the vice gainst censorship
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53:18
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much, Charles and I let's just
53:21
Speaker 1: very briefly talk about pandemic preparedness because the UK Government
53:25
Speaker 1: has decided to move ahead with that. They have done
53:29
Speaker 1: a deal, some kind of dirty deal with Oxford Nanopore.
53:32
Speaker 1: This is the press release from them, Oxford Nanoport Nanopoor
53:36
Speaker 1: announces landmark UK Government partnership in to advance genomics driven
53:40
Speaker 1: healthcare innovation in the UK. So let's have a look
53:44
Speaker 1: and see what the British government said about this. They
53:47
Speaker 1: said that Oxford nanopor uses longread sequencing technology to analyze
53:53
Speaker 1: genes and pathogens to rapidly diagnose a range of cancers
53:56
Speaker 1: along with rare and infectious diseases. The technology can sequence
53:59
Speaker 1: long strands of DNA or RNA and one go without
54:02
Speaker 1: bringing it up into smaller fragments. In infectious diseases, Oxford
54:06
Speaker 1: Nanopur's technology will help to create an early warning system
54:10
Speaker 1: for future pandemics and potential biological threats, both preventing disease
54:15
Speaker 1: and protecting the public. Now, they haven't said how much
54:18
Speaker 1: money they're going to spend on this at this point,
54:21
Speaker 1: but let's just have a look and see what Wes
54:24
Speaker 1: had to say about this. Wes straading. Of course, if
54:26
Speaker 1: we fail to prepare, we should prepare to fail, is
54:29
Speaker 1: what he said. And if that doesn't make you feel ill,
54:32
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what will. Our NHS was already on
54:35
Speaker 1: its knees when the pandemic struck, and it was hit
54:37
Speaker 1: harder than any other comparable healthcare system. We cannot let
54:41
Speaker 1: history repeat itself. That's why this historic partnership with Oxford
54:45
Speaker 1: Nanipour will ensure our world leading scientists have the latest
54:48
Speaker 1: information on emerging threats at their fingertips. But in fact
54:53
Speaker 1: they are letting history repeat itself, aren't they. Because a
54:56
Speaker 1: contrary to the change narrative, the Libor party the Liver
55:00
Speaker 1: regime doing exactly what the Tory regime did before it.
55:03
Speaker 1: When the Tory regime gave a massive bug to Astrosenca,
55:07
Speaker 1: for example, before any approval was given. In fact, approval
55:11
Speaker 1: was never really given for the Astrosenica job. But anyway,
55:15
Speaker 1: Astrosenega got huge amounts of money before it was ever given,
55:18
Speaker 1: billions of pounds, and of course, with billions of pounds.
55:22
Speaker 1: This from the House of Sorry the Parliament website four
55:27
Speaker 1: billion of unusable ppe bought in the first year of
55:30
Speaker 1: the pandemic. That was actually I believe ten billion at
55:33
Speaker 1: the end of the day. And then also the unimaginable
55:36
Speaker 1: cost of Test and Trice failed to deliver the promise
55:40
Speaker 1: of averting another lockdown. What was that thirty seven billion
55:43
Speaker 1: pounds and total spent on Test and Trice, all this
55:47
Speaker 1: money being thrown away on the previous pandemic. We're going
55:51
Speaker 1: to continue that under this liver regime. And if anybody's
55:56
Speaker 1: wondering where this so called twenty billion pound black hole
55:59
Speaker 1: came from, well I think we know, but no lessons
56:03
Speaker 1: learned there. Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised at that. But Charles,
56:07
Speaker 1: let's come back to you then and land theft.
56:13
Speaker 3: Yes, thanks, Mike, certainly, that's what I'm calling it. This
56:17
Speaker 3: is following on from the budget last week, which of
56:21
Speaker 3: course is where we were when the news was going out.
56:25
Speaker 3: I speculated that the government were going to bring in
56:29
Speaker 3: some kind of change to the agricultural property relief on
56:32
Speaker 3: inheritance tax, and sure enough they did. So we've got
56:35
Speaker 3: the government announcement here what are the changes to agricultural
56:39
Speaker 3: property relief and in effect they are saying that, well,
56:44
Speaker 3: they are suggesting that they are reforming the budget while
56:48
Speaker 3: protecting small family farms from unfairly high inheritance tax. Now
56:53
Speaker 3: that is an amazing the sort of means of double
56:57
Speaker 3: speak to suggest a benefit when in fact it's exactly
57:01
Speaker 3: the opposite. So from six of April twenty twenty six,
57:03
Speaker 3: the full one hundred percent relief from inheritance tax will
57:05
Speaker 3: be restricted to the first one million of combined agricultural
57:09
Speaker 3: and business property. So effectively, there was not a tax
57:13
Speaker 3: in place and now there is, and they're calling that
57:15
Speaker 3: a benefit for small farmers. The latest figures showed the
57:19
Speaker 3: top seven percent accounted for forty percent of the value
57:22
Speaker 3: of the property relief and it costs the tax pay
57:25
Speaker 3: two hundred and nineteen million pounds. Now as a frame
57:27
Speaker 3: of reference, that's less than half a day's cash or
57:30
Speaker 3: the United sorry for the National Health Service. But in
57:34
Speaker 3: effect they're saying that the system is not fair because
57:38
Speaker 3: it allows the top two percent to effectively get away
57:42
Speaker 3: with not paying tax when of course they really should,
57:45
Speaker 3: And instead of gearing the system so that they capture
57:47
Speaker 3: those people, they in actual fact want to persecute everybody,
57:52
Speaker 3: and so just to suggest how easy it is to
57:54
Speaker 3: reach that threshold of one million. We look at the
57:56
Speaker 3: Savile's Land Prices guide here from twenty twenty three. The
57:58
Speaker 3: average value full farm and is eight two hundred pounds
58:01
Speaker 3: per acre compared to a little bit less last year,
58:04
Speaker 3: and primarible is about just over ten thousand pounds per acre. Now,
58:09
Speaker 3: the point with that is that therefore to achieve that
58:12
Speaker 3: threshold is not difficult in any way, and therefore a
58:16
Speaker 3: lot of small farms will confront this course. There's been
58:20
Speaker 3: controversy because seventy thousand was the figure put out by
58:22
Speaker 3: the Country Landowners and Business Association, and there was sort
58:26
Speaker 3: of suggestion this is a wild exaggeration and it would
58:28
Speaker 3: only target perhaps five hundred farms a year or fewer,
58:31
Speaker 3: which is not really the point. The point is that
58:33
Speaker 3: over the course of time many will be forced to
58:36
Speaker 3: either sell up entirely or sell part of land, and
58:39
Speaker 3: of course where will that go straight to developers and
58:42
Speaker 3: corporations in order to take it further out of production
58:46
Speaker 3: and to meet the supposed renewable energy commitments and indeed
58:51
Speaker 3: developments of housing and all sorts of other things that
58:53
Speaker 3: government ministers and corporations will make masses of money out
58:56
Speaker 3: of Nonetheless, the NFU have put forward a petition. Now
59:02
Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting the NFU is acting in the best
59:04
Speaker 3: interest of farmers, but nonetheless, as a demonstration of the
59:10
Speaker 3: displeasure that people should really feel about further pushes for
59:13
Speaker 3: taking land out of production, it is worth pointing you
59:16
Speaker 3: towards such petition. And also just as a frame of reference,
59:19
Speaker 3: there are two hundred and nine thousand farm holdings in
59:22
Speaker 3: the UK, but only one hundred and sixty thousand signatures
59:25
Speaker 3: on this petition so far. So if you do have
59:26
Speaker 3: an interest in that, then then take a look at
59:29
Speaker 3: the NFU website to sign that petition. Because of course,
59:32
Speaker 3: underneath all of this is food security, which is not
59:35
Speaker 3: taken seriously by this government.
59:37
Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles. Now we began the program with an election,
59:41
Speaker 1: We're going to end with an election, and for many
59:45
Speaker 1: people may have been wondering, although probably not what has
59:49
Speaker 1: become of Greta Thomberg. Well let's have a look.
59:54
Speaker 8: So can you tell a few words while you're here today.
59:57
Speaker 8: I'm here to support the vice for democracy and freedom
1:00:01
Speaker 8: of the Georgian people who have been standing up time
1:00:04
Speaker 8: and time again against the repression they are facing from
1:00:06
Speaker 8: the state.
1:00:09
Speaker 1: So she is in Georgia because in Georgia they held
1:00:12
Speaker 1: an election a few months ago, and well, the West
1:00:15
Speaker 1: doesn't like the result, so here she is dancing there.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: So they held their parliamentary election on October twenty sixth, actually,
1:00:25
Speaker 1: and that resulted in what's being described as the pro
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Moscow Georgian Dream Party retaining power. They had about fifty
1:00:34
Speaker 1: four percent of the elect of the electorate supporting them.
1:00:38
Speaker 1: So the opposition parties are claiming that the vote was
1:00:43
Speaker 1: skewed by intimidation, vote buying, and fraud, and so they
1:00:47
Speaker 1: want to overturn the result, and of course the West
1:00:50
Speaker 1: wants to overturn the results. So peerl Greta there, who's
1:00:53
Speaker 1: sort of looking for some kind of validation for existence
1:00:57
Speaker 1: at the moment, has decided to get involved with that
1:01:01
Speaker 1: an attempt to organize a regime change in Georgia. We'll
1:01:06
Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. Of course, Georgia important because
1:01:08
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and eight that was really the
1:01:11
Speaker 1: first claims by the West that Russia was interfering because
1:01:16
Speaker 1: they got involved in what became the South Assetian War.
1:01:20
Speaker 1: And we'll keep an eye on how that goes, because
1:01:22
Speaker 1: the West would very much like to see Georgia become
1:01:25
Speaker 1: another front alongside Ukraine against Russia. Okay, we will leave
1:01:30
Speaker 1: it there for today. Thank you very much to Vanessa
1:01:32
Speaker 1: and Charles for joining me, and thank you all for watching.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: If your UK colun members stick around, we'll be back
1:01:38
Speaker 1: in a few minutes for some extra don't forget the
1:01:42
Speaker 1: presentation tomorrow from the Gaza, from the doctor who's been
1:01:46
Speaker 1: spending time in Gaza. That's very important and please share
1:01:49
Speaker 1: that as widely as possible. But otherwise we'll see you
1:01:53
Speaker 1: at one pm on Friday as usual. See then, bye
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Speaker 1: bye
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