Latest / PNW Haunts & Homicides / The Disappearance of Maurice, Martha, Louis, Jennie, and Betty Sodder
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- 0:00Speaker 1: On Christmas Eve nineteen forty five, in the rural outskirts
- 0:04Speaker 1: of Fayetteville, West Virginia, George and Jenny Sotter tucked their
- 0:08Speaker 1: children into bed for the night with the anticipation of
- 0:11Speaker 1: spending Christmas together the next morning. Tragically, a fire quickly
- 0:15Speaker 1: engulfed the home, forcing the family to leave, but five
- 0:20Speaker 1: of the children were presumably still inside. What would unfold
- 0:23Speaker 1: that evening is still one of the greatest mysteries in
- 0:26Speaker 1: the true crime world today, leaving us to wonder what
- 0:30Speaker 1: happened to the Solder children. Hello, and welcome to another
- 1:05Speaker 1: episode of Truly Twisted. As always, I'm your host, Alicia Watson,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and every Thursday, I will be bringing you a story
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- 1:25Speaker 1: let's get into this week's episode. We're jumping right in
- 1:28Speaker 1: with another holiday related story and it's an absolute doozy,
- 1:33Speaker 1: the disappearance of disolder children. So let's get into it. Parents,
- 1:38Speaker 1: George and Jenny Sotter, were born in Italy, moving to
- 1:42Speaker 1: the US at young ages. George had come from Tula,
- 1:46Speaker 1: Sardinia in nineteen oh eight when he was thirteen years old,
- 1:49Speaker 1: along with his older brother, but his brother wasn't a
- 1:53Speaker 1: fan of the US and quickly left to go back
- 1:56Speaker 1: to Italy, leaving young George there alone in a new
- 2:00Speaker 1: At just thirteen, George found a job at the Pennsylvania
- 2:04Speaker 1: Railroads carrying water and supplies to the laborers, and he
- 2:09Speaker 1: did this for a few years before moving to West Virginia,
- 2:12Speaker 1: where he found a job as a driver. This would
- 2:15Speaker 1: eventually evolve into his very own trucking company, and it
- 2:19Speaker 1: was then that he met Jenny, a storekeeper's daughter. Jenny
- 2:23Speaker 1: Capriani moved to Italy when she was just three years
- 2:26Speaker 1: old with her parents. The couple met at her family's
- 2:30Speaker 1: store called the Music Box, which honestly is quite beautiful,
- 2:35Speaker 1: and the two would get married in nineteen twenty two
- 2:38Speaker 1: move into a two story timber frame home in Fayeteville.
- 2:42Speaker 1: It was a small and quiet town in West Virginia
- 2:45Speaker 1: with a population of about thirteen hundred people at the time.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Their main street wasn't even a mile long. Throughout their marriage,
- 2:53Speaker 1: George and Jenny would have ten children together between nineteen
- 2:57Speaker 1: twenty three and nineteen forty three, Joe, John, Marion, George Junior, Maurice, Martha, Louis, Jenny,
- 3:06Speaker 1: Betty and Sylvia. They were, by all accounts, a very
- 3:09Speaker 1: happy Italian family and at the timeline of our story,
- 3:13Speaker 1: their children ranged from twenty five to two years old.
- 3:17Speaker 1: So now that we have set the scene, let's get
- 3:19Speaker 1: into the events of Christmas Eve. Also, please note that
- 3:23Speaker 1: the oldest Sawder child was not home that evening, Joe
- 3:27Speaker 1: was serving in the army overseas at the time, but
- 3:30Speaker 1: all other nine children were there. The house was full
- 3:33Speaker 1: of holiday cheer until about ten thirty pm, when George
- 3:37Speaker 1: and Jenny went to bed with their two year old
- 3:40Speaker 1: daughter Sylvia. Five of the younger children, Betty, Jenny, Lewis,
- 3:45Speaker 1: Martha and Maurice, who were six, eight, ten, twelve and
- 3:49Speaker 1: fourteen at the time, had asked if they could stay
- 3:52Speaker 1: up later given that it was a holiday, and they
- 3:55Speaker 1: were allowed provided that they finished their chores and locked
- 3:58Speaker 1: up the house, which meant closing all the curtains, making
- 4:02Speaker 1: sure everything was turned off and locked up, beating all
- 4:05Speaker 1: the farm animals, and making sure, you know, everything was
- 4:08Speaker 1: just secure for the night. At twelve thirty am, a
- 4:12Speaker 1: strange phone call woke Jenny. An unfamiliar woman asked for
- 4:16Speaker 1: a name that she didn't recognize, laughed oddly, and then
- 4:21Speaker 1: hung up. In the background, glasses clinked and it sounded
- 4:24Speaker 1: like maybe there was a holiday party going on, and
- 4:28Speaker 1: Jenny was about to tell the woman that she had
- 4:30Speaker 1: the wrong number, so she didn't think anything of it.
- 4:34Speaker 1: While awake, Jenny noticed that the downstairs lights were still
- 4:37Speaker 1: on and the curtains were open. The front door was
- 4:40Speaker 1: also still unlocked. She assumed that the children were up
- 4:44Speaker 1: in the attic playing, so she secured the house and
- 4:47Speaker 1: went back to bed. Moments later, she heard a loud
- 4:50Speaker 1: thud followed by a rolling noise coming from the roof,
- 4:55Speaker 1: but she eventually drifted back to sleep. At one thirty am,
- 5:00Speaker 1: roughly an hour later, and Jenny awoke to smoke filling
- 5:03Speaker 1: her room and flames engulfing the family home. She heard
- 5:08Speaker 1: screaming and coughing, and yelled for her kids to get
- 5:10Speaker 1: out of the house. The family rushed out, but five
- 5:15Speaker 1: of them were still missing. George desperately tried to re
- 5:19Speaker 1: enter the house, but the stairs were already engulfed in flames.
- 5:23Speaker 1: When he ran to get his ladder, it was missing
- 5:25Speaker 1: from its usual spot at the side of the house,
- 5:28Speaker 1: so he tried to start not just one, but both
- 5:32Speaker 1: of his coal trucks that were parked at the house
- 5:34Speaker 1: to use them as a platform to reach the attic windows,
- 5:38Speaker 1: but neither of the trucks started. Despite working perfectly the
- 5:42Speaker 1: day before, even the water well was frozen solid. Everything
- 5:47Speaker 1: that they were trying to do put them at a standstill.
- 5:50Speaker 1: This nightmare continued as the family tried to call for help.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Their phone line was dead and a local volunteer fire
- 5:57Speaker 1: department was severely understood due to the current war and
- 6:01Speaker 1: the fact that it was Christmas Eve. It took seven
- 6:04Speaker 1: hours for them to arrive, and by eight a m.
- 6:07Speaker 1: The house was completely reduced to a pile of ash.
- 6:12Speaker 1: The surviving family members were devastated by the loss of
- 6:16Speaker 1: their home and the fact that five of their children
- 6:19Speaker 1: were still missing and presumably died in that fire. I
- 6:23Speaker 1: can't even imagine how helpless the Sawdters felt watching their home.
- 6:28Speaker 1: The local corner ruled that the children had perished in
- 6:31Speaker 1: the fire that was caused by quote unquote faulty wiring.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And death certificates were issued on December thirtieth, nineteen forty five,
- 6:40Speaker 1: for the five children, Betty, Jenny, Lewis, Martha, and Maurice.
- 6:45Speaker 1: The remaining Sawders, however, were skeptical for one thing. The
- 6:51Speaker 1: fire department wasn't able to find a single identifiable bone
- 6:55Speaker 1: or human remain in the wreckage that could have belonged
- 6:58Speaker 1: to any of the five missing children. That, in combination
- 7:02Speaker 1: with their phone lines not working, their vans not working,
- 7:06Speaker 1: and George's ladder being moved, it felt very suspicious. Too
- 7:11Speaker 1: much had gone wrong all at once, and it felt intentional.
- 7:15Speaker 1: Jenny later consulted a crematorium worker and conducted her own
- 7:19Speaker 1: experiments with animal bones. She found that even the most
- 7:23Speaker 1: intense heat left charred yet identifiable remains. Cremation of human
- 7:29Speaker 1: remains doesn't fully destroy bones in the time or temperature
- 7:33Speaker 1: of a typical house fire. Even prolonged and intense house
- 7:37Speaker 1: fires usually leave traces of skeletal remains. The Smithsonian reported
- 7:43Speaker 1: that bones remain even after two hours in a crematorium
- 7:46Speaker 1: at two thousand degrees fahrenheit, whereas the solder house burnt
- 7:51Speaker 1: at a far less time and lower intensity. If that
- 7:56Speaker 1: was the case, where were the children? Four days after
- 7:59Speaker 1: the fire, what remained of the home was bulldozed and
- 8:02Speaker 1: a memorial garden was planted in the home's place. A
- 8:07Speaker 1: funeral was held for the children on January Tewod, but
- 8:10Speaker 1: Jenny and George were two griefs stricken to attend. Now.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I know that hindsight is always twenty twenty, but looking
- 8:17Speaker 1: at some of the events that led up to the date,
- 8:20Speaker 1: all of this felt very strange. George and Jenny did
- 8:24Speaker 1: not believe that their kids were dead. They believed that
- 8:27Speaker 1: they had been taken from the home during the fire
- 8:30Speaker 1: for starters. The months leading up to Christmas nineteen forty
- 8:34Speaker 1: five were marked by several unsettling incidents. A life insurance
- 8:39Speaker 1: salesman was enraged by George's refusal to buy a policy
- 8:44Speaker 1: and reportedly threatened him, shouting, your goddamn house is going
- 8:47Speaker 1: to go up in smoke and your children are going
- 8:49Speaker 1: to be destroyed. He claimed that George would pay for
- 8:53Speaker 1: his remarks about Mussolini. Later, a stranger looking for work
- 8:59Speaker 1: wandered to the back of the house and pointed to
- 9:01Speaker 1: two fuse boxes. He warned them that they were a
- 9:04Speaker 1: fire hazard, and George found this really strange, considering that
- 9:09Speaker 1: the home's electrics had recently been inspected and cleared. Additionally,
- 9:14Speaker 1: one of the oldest sold children noticed two people parked
- 9:17Speaker 1: in a car along Highway twenty one, intently watching the
- 9:21Speaker 1: younger children get off the school bus. Not to mention
- 9:25Speaker 1: everything that went wrong during the fire, the phone line
- 9:29Speaker 1: was cut, it wasn't burnt. Following an inspection of the
- 9:33Speaker 1: home and the surrounding electrical units, a telephone repairman reported
- 9:38Speaker 1: that the line did not burn in the fire. It
- 9:41Speaker 1: was cleanly cut beforehand, as if somebody had climbed up
- 9:45Speaker 1: a pole or used a ladder and deliberately severed it.
- 9:50Speaker 1: Number two, the ladder had been moved. This ladder usually
- 9:55Speaker 1: sat perched against the solderhouse and was crucial for accessing
- 9:58Speaker 1: the upper floor. It was found far from its original
- 10:02Speaker 1: position after the fire, as though somebody had removed it
- 10:06Speaker 1: before the fire started. George's usually reliable work trucks mysteriously
- 10:12Speaker 1: failed to start that night. They had run perfectly fine
- 10:16Speaker 1: earlier that day, So what are the odds that not
- 10:18Speaker 1: one but two would stop working right when you need
- 10:21Speaker 1: them to. Number four, when the snow had finally melted,
- 10:26Speaker 1: young baby, Sylvia, who was just two at the time,
- 10:29Speaker 1: found a hard rubber sphere in the bush. George believed
- 10:34Speaker 1: that it resembled a napalm, pineapple bomb, or incendiary device
- 10:39Speaker 1: of some sort, but there was no way to test it. However,
- 10:44Speaker 1: this could have been what Jenny had heard rolling on
- 10:46Speaker 1: the roof, and later witnesses would speculate that they saw
- 10:51Speaker 1: balls of fire being thrown at the Sawder House before
- 10:54Speaker 1: their home went up in flames. Five that strange phone call,
- 11:00Speaker 1: Some accounts have suggested that the wrong number phone call
- 11:03Speaker 1: to the Solder house might somehow be connected to the fire,
- 11:07Speaker 1: or was meant as some sort of distraction for somebody
- 11:10Speaker 1: to go in and take the kids. However, investigators later
- 11:14Speaker 1: contacted this woman who made the call, and she confirmed
- 11:17Speaker 1: that it had been the wrong number on her part
- 11:20Speaker 1: and that she didn't know anything about the family. A
- 11:24Speaker 1: frequently discussed theory is that the kids were taken because
- 11:28Speaker 1: of retaliation because George Sotterer had been quite outspoken about
- 11:33Speaker 1: Mussolini and Italian fascism. About Mussolini and it being a
- 11:39Speaker 1: prominent Italian community, some locals later claimed that maybe these
- 11:43Speaker 1: threats made toward the family in the weeks before the
- 11:46Speaker 1: fire were deliberate as a reason because this was a
- 11:50Speaker 1: prominent Italian community, maybe George had pissed the wrong person off.
- 11:56Speaker 1: Some locals later claimed that threats were made toward the
- 11:59Speaker 1: family in the weeks before the fire, and witnesses would
- 12:03Speaker 1: claim to see the missing Solder children themselves. One woman
- 12:07Speaker 1: who had seen the fire from the road said that
- 12:09Speaker 1: she had seen a couple of children peering out of
- 12:12Speaker 1: a passing car while the house was burning. She said
- 12:15Speaker 1: that they resembled the Solder children. Another woman at a
- 12:19Speaker 1: rest stop between Fayetteville and Charleston said that she had
- 12:22Speaker 1: served them breakfast the next morning. She noted that there
- 12:26Speaker 1: was a Florida license plate car in the rest stop
- 12:29Speaker 1: parking lot as well. The Sawters hired a private investigator
- 12:33Speaker 1: named C. C. Tinsley from a nearby town to look
- 12:36Speaker 1: into the case. He informed the family that the insurance
- 12:40Speaker 1: salesman who had threatened George over his anti Mussolini sentiments
- 12:45Speaker 1: had been on the corner's jury that ruled the fire
- 12:48Speaker 1: in accident. He also learned of rumors around Fayetteville that,
- 12:53Speaker 1: despite his report to the Swters that no remains had
- 12:56Speaker 1: been found in the ashes, chief Morris, the fire chief,
- 13:01Speaker 1: had found a heart, which he later packed into a
- 13:03Speaker 1: small metal box and secretly buried. It was later found
- 13:08Speaker 1: that this was actually a beef liver and it had
- 13:11Speaker 1: not at all been affected by a fire, but he
- 13:14Speaker 1: was hoping that this would help the family. Except their
- 13:17Speaker 1: children had died in August of nineteen forty nine, the
- 13:21Speaker 1: saughters decided to go on a whole new search of
- 13:24Speaker 1: the scene. They brought in a Washington d c. Pathologist
- 13:29Speaker 1: and the excavation was much more thorough than it had
- 13:32Speaker 1: been the first time around. Then covered a small amount
- 13:36Speaker 1: of objects, damaged coins, a partly burned dictionary, several shards
- 13:42Speaker 1: of vertebrae, and a hunter sent the bones to the
- 13:46Speaker 1: Smithsonian Institution. Basically, the takeaway was that the bones were human,
- 13:52Speaker 1: that they belonged to one person, presumably between sixteen and
- 13:56Speaker 1: seventeen years old, and this could have been a fourteen
- 14:00Speaker 1: year old boy i e. The oldest missing solder child Morris,
- 14:04Speaker 1: but it was not probable for a boy fourteen and
- 14:07Speaker 1: a half years old to show that level of maturation.
- 14:12Speaker 1: That and the vertebrae didn't appear to have any fire damage,
- 14:16Speaker 1: lending speculation that they were potentially dug up in the
- 14:19Speaker 1: dirt that the family used to plant the memorial garden, which,
- 14:24Speaker 1: as a separate aside, I did not like that as
- 14:26Speaker 1: an explanation that there's just vertebrae in your dirt, But
- 14:30Speaker 1: I rest my case. It was nineteen forty five. They
- 14:33Speaker 1: continued to look for their children and follow any leads
- 14:37Speaker 1: that came their way. George would often personally drive across
- 14:41Speaker 1: state lines to wherever possible sighting was until he was
- 14:45Speaker 1: confident that his children weren't there. In nineteen fifty two,
- 14:49Speaker 1: the family printed out flyers and handed them out all
- 14:52Speaker 1: over the state. They also put up a billboard with
- 14:55Speaker 1: the children's faces, offering a five thousand dollars reward for
- 14:59Speaker 1: any information leading to the missing Sawters. They put up
- 15:03Speaker 1: two billboards in fact, one along the highway and one
- 15:06Speaker 1: where the home once stood. In nineteen sixty seven, George
- 15:10Speaker 1: traveled to Houston to investigate a possible tip of somebody
- 15:14Speaker 1: who had stated that Lewis had revealed his identity to
- 15:17Speaker 1: her after having too much to drink one night. She
- 15:21Speaker 1: thought that he and Maurice were potentially living in Texas.
- 15:25Speaker 1: When she brought George to the two men that she
- 15:27Speaker 1: believed to be his boys. They denied knowing anything about
- 15:31Speaker 1: the Sotters or being these missing boys, but for whatever reason,
- 15:36Speaker 1: this interaction weighed heavily on George until his death. The
- 15:40Speaker 1: Sowter family later received a letter from Central City, Kentucky
- 15:45Speaker 1: with no return address and a photo of a thirtyish
- 15:48Speaker 1: year old male with a strong resemblance to Lewis. On
- 15:52Speaker 1: the back, written in handwriting was Lewis Sotter, I love
- 15:57Speaker 1: brother Frankie L L boys U A nine oh one,
- 16:02Speaker 1: three two or three five. This would have been the
- 16:07Speaker 1: right age if Lewis had survived. The family hired another
- 16:11Speaker 1: private detective, another private investigator to go to Central City,
- 16:15Speaker 1: Kentucky and look into it, but he never reported back
- 16:19Speaker 1: to the Sowters and they weren't able to locate him again.
- 16:23Speaker 1: This in itself is strange, and whether or not it
- 16:25Speaker 1: was Lewis, it gave the family some sort of hope.
- 16:30Speaker 1: The Sawters spent the rest of their lives searching. Over
- 16:33Speaker 1: the decades, they followed Leeds across the country, from a
- 16:37Speaker 1: school in New York to a potential siding in Kentucky.
- 16:41Speaker 1: George passed away in nineteen sixty nine without ever knowing
- 16:44Speaker 1: the fate of his children, and Jenny Sowters spent the
- 16:48Speaker 1: remaining years wearing black in mourning and tending to the
- 16:52Speaker 1: memorial garden where their house once stood, until her death
- 16:55Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine. The surviving sold children, joined by
- 17:00Speaker 1: their own kids, would continue to publicize the story and
- 17:04Speaker 1: follow up on investigative leads. They, along with Olderville residents,
- 17:10Speaker 1: have theorized that somehow the Sicilian mafia was trying to
- 17:15Speaker 1: extort money from George or was seeking retaliation from his
- 17:20Speaker 1: so called anti Mussolini beliefs, and they were taken back
- 17:25Speaker 1: to Italy. If the children had survived all those years
- 17:29Speaker 1: and they were aware that their parents and siblings had
- 17:32Speaker 1: survived the fire and were still looking for them, they
- 17:35Speaker 1: may have been too afraid to contact them for fear
- 17:38Speaker 1: that something bad might happen to them. Sylvia Sotter, the
- 17:42Speaker 1: youngest of the siblings, passed away in twenty twenty one,
- 17:46Speaker 1: and she too, followed up on any and all leads
- 17:49Speaker 1: related to her siblings until she passed. To this day,
- 17:53Speaker 1: the disappearance of the five Solder children remains one of
- 17:57Speaker 1: the most haunting unsolved mysteries in America in history. It
- 18:01Speaker 1: has been eighty years and no one knows for certain
- 18:05Speaker 1: if they survived that fire and were taken, or if
- 18:10Speaker 1: maybe that search just wasn't done well enough, wasn't thorough enough,
- 18:14Speaker 1: and by some miraculous science, defying circumstance, they did die
- 18:19Speaker 1: in that fire, but I personally believe that they were taken.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I would love to know what you all think, and
- 18:26Speaker 1: you can send me your thoughts at It's Truly Twisted
- 18:29Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And now for a moment for
- 18:33Speaker 1: the missing. Chandice left her home on August twentieth, twenty nineteen,
- 18:53Speaker 1: with Christopher Spees, traveling to the Birch River area. She
- 18:58Speaker 1: left a note for her mom that she would be
- 19:00Speaker 1: back shortly. However, he returned and she did not. Chandace
- 19:05Speaker 1: was living with her mother at the time. Her mom
- 19:07Speaker 1: went to work that morning, and when she returned home,
- 19:10Speaker 1: she found a note on the counter that stated, Mom,
- 19:14Speaker 1: I took off for a little while. I'm in good hands.
- 19:16Speaker 1: I promise be back shortly. Please don't worry, no need
- 19:20Speaker 1: to call if he need me. Love you. Chan Chandace
- 19:24Speaker 1: did not take any of her personal belongings with her,
- 19:27Speaker 1: only a small change purse and her cell phone. The
- 19:30Speaker 1: drive that she did was approximately twenty minutes would have
- 19:34Speaker 1: been no big deal to anybody now. Christopher Spies has
- 19:38Speaker 1: been interviewed several times by police, but maintains that he
- 19:42Speaker 1: doesn't know anything after two am. He says that due
- 19:45Speaker 1: to being under the influence of drugs and alcohol at
- 19:48Speaker 1: the time, he has no idea what happened to her.
- 19:52Speaker 1: There is no proof that she is either alive or deceased,
- 19:56Speaker 1: and she has not been seen or heard from since.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Chandis is thirty three years old. She is five three,
- 20:02Speaker 1: one hundred and ten pounds, and she has a tattoo
- 20:06Speaker 1: on her right leg that says see no evil, hear
- 20:09Speaker 1: no evil, Speak no evil. If you have any information
- 20:12Speaker 1: regarding her whereabouts here asked, called the West Virginia State
- 20:15Speaker 1: Police at three oh four seven sixty five two one
- 20:20Speaker 1: zero one. And I do hope that you enjoyed this
- 20:23Speaker 1: week's episode. Remember to leave five stars wherever you are
- 20:26Speaker 1: listening now and I will see you next week for
- 20:29Speaker 1: a very merry Christmas episode. And in the meantime, remember
- 20:34Speaker 1: you are wanted, you are loved, and you deserve to
- 20:37Speaker 1: be here. And I will see you next week,