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OL Coach Shaun Sarrett, Parker Washington & More on Prep for #NEvsJAX | A Few Good Minutes · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to a few good minutes before the Jaguars host
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots in a big week three showdown at Everbank Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Brian Sexton, and this week I caught up with
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  Speaker 1: offensive line coach Sean Surrett to talk about a group
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  Speaker 1: that has to play well on Sunday for the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: to give themselves a chance to knock off the defending
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  Speaker 1: AFC champions who are bringing a big physical defensive front
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  Speaker 1: that trashed the Steelers offensive line last week. And I
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  Speaker 1: don't think I've ever seen that before. also going to
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  Speaker 1: hear defensive line coach Matt Edwards talk about a group
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  Speaker 1: that has to find a way to keep New England
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  Speaker 1: quarterback Drake May in the pocket and also corral running
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  Speaker 1: back Travion Henderson who gashed the Steelers defensive line plus
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  Speaker 1: running back Chris Rodriguez hasn't made a huge impact in
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville yet but he's very happy with the decision he
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  Speaker 1: made to join forces with facial tootin in the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: backfield and Fred Taylor well he has a lot to
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  Speaker 1: say this week about Travis Hunter and the Jaguars ability
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  Speaker 1: to rebound from their loss in Denver But let's start
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  Speaker 1: with Parker Washington, who at this time last year was
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  Speaker 1: an easy interview in the Jaguars' locker room. Literally, no
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  Speaker 1: one was waiting by his locker after practice. Now, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's just say I had to work to get a
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  Speaker 1: few good minutes with the Jaguars' most explosive weapon through
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  Speaker 1: two games. You're the center of attention right now. Is
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  Speaker 1: that fun for you? Is it a distraction for you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, with your personality, I get to admit, I
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  Speaker 1: think maybe you're enjoying it a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's never been my focus. It's just I
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  Speaker 2: just want to be the best team I can be
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  Speaker 2: and just come out here and just.
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  Speaker 1: Have some fun.
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  Speaker 2: And that's ultimately what I've been doing. And it's been
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  Speaker 2: paying off for me to just stay in focus and
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  Speaker 2: not paying attention to the noise.
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  Speaker 1: You have made play after play after play after play.
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  Speaker 1: It's gotten to the point where we're surprised when you
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  Speaker 1: don't make a play. When did that start? Late last year?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just your level of consistency is off
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  Speaker 1: the charts right now.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like we can go all the way back
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  Speaker 2: in time of like when it started, like we can
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  Speaker 2: go back to college. Just, I felt like I've always
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  Speaker 2: believed in myself to be that guy. It's just, I
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  Speaker 2: had to wait for my time. And just when I
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  Speaker 2: got here as a rookie, learn from teammates in front
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  Speaker 2: of me that were doing, that were playing at a
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  Speaker 2: high level and just being a sponge in that receiver
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  Speaker 2: room and just continuing to attack the practice field as
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  Speaker 2: if I was getting those opportunities each week. And I
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  Speaker 2: feel like now I'm starting to get those opportunities. So,
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  Speaker 2: just making the most of it. And I just want
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  Speaker 2: to have some fun out there and take it one
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  Speaker 2: play at a time.
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  Speaker 1: Do you do any different training? Don't be offended, but
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  Speaker 1: you look like a gymnast out there. I mean, the
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  Speaker 1: way that you explode off the turf to go grab
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  Speaker 1: the ball, the way that you dive to get it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you ever done gymnastics? Do you do karate
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  Speaker 1: or do you do anything that's different that gets you
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  Speaker 1: ready to play the way that you do?
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  Speaker 2: I would say nothing special. You know, obviously we in
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  Speaker 2: the weight room. Staying in shape is real important. Getting
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  Speaker 2: a lot of sleep is real important. And ultimately just
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  Speaker 2: coming out here and just being Parker, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: just being me. And I feel like I was blessed
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  Speaker 2: to have these gifts. But it's just been the big
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  Speaker 2: thing of my process is putting the work in. And
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  Speaker 2: you're nothing without the work. So I just hone in
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  Speaker 2: on that. And that's ultimately what it is, just putting
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  Speaker 2: the time in.
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  Speaker 1: Pick up the phone and ask your sister what she thinks.
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  Speaker 1: How does she grade you?
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  Speaker 2: She's going to say, don't be a scrub.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be a scrub.
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  Speaker 2: Just don't be a scrub. We always laugh when we
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  Speaker 2: talk on the phone, and ultimately that's a big piece,
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  Speaker 2: just going out there and just honing in on my process,
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  Speaker 2: taking it one day at a time, one rep at
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  Speaker 2: a time, and just being the best me.
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  Speaker 1: You have 12 targets, far more than anyone else. There's
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  Speaker 1: been some talk this week about spreading the wealth. Are
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  Speaker 1: you good with that? Are you good with playing your part,
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  Speaker 1: or do you like to see 12 targets?
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  Speaker 4: Let's just get the win.
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  Speaker 1: It's all that matters, isn't it?
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  Speaker 4: Let's just get the win.
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  Speaker 1: Your relationship with Trevor, he just smiles whenever people ask
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  Speaker 1: about you. When did that turn on and does it
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  Speaker 1: just keep getting better or do you have to work
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  Speaker 1: at it every day? You got to work at it
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  Speaker 1: each and every day.
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  Speaker 2: Continue to make plays on the practice field and make
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  Speaker 2: plays in the game. As far as just when it
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  Speaker 2: happened or when it's just being me each and every
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  Speaker 2: day and ultimately just waiting my time to be the
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  Speaker 2: person i know i can be the player and i
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  Speaker 2: know i can be and just going out there and
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  Speaker 2: having fun let's.
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  Speaker 1: Just wrap on this then everyone marvels at how you're
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  Speaker 1: able to separate the business side from the football five
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  Speaker 1: side and essentially bet on yourself was that a difficult
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  Speaker 1: decision did you make it all by yourself and do
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  Speaker 1: you still stand by.
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  Speaker 2: It i'm just want to go out here and just
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  Speaker 2: play ball that's been my mindset this whole time and
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  Speaker 2: you know just letting everything else work itself out but
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  Speaker 2: ultimately we have we have a job to do this
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  Speaker 2: week we gotta go on and on and that's all
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  Speaker 2: i'm focused on.
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  Speaker 1: The Jaguars defensive line is a talented group, but last
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  Speaker 1: week in Denver, while they controlled the running game as
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  Speaker 1: we've grown to expect that they will week to week,
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  Speaker 1: they struggled to get to quarterback Bo Nix, and they
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  Speaker 1: left Colorado dissatisfied with their performance. Kai Stevens caught up
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  Speaker 1: with defensive line coach Matt Edwards, who owns a commanding
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  Speaker 1: presence among some of the biggest men on the field,
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  Speaker 1: and who worked all week on the little details that
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  Speaker 1: oftentimes in professional football make all the difference.
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  Speaker 5: I'm here with Jaguars defensive line coach Matt Edwards, heading
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  Speaker 5: into week three. In week one, saw a ton of
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  Speaker 5: success against Cleveland. In Denver, not so much. When you
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  Speaker 5: look back at that Broncos game, what stood out to you?
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  Speaker 5: What do you really want to work on going.
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  Speaker 1: Into this week?
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  Speaker 6: I think that's a great question. I think the thing
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  Speaker 6: that we always want to work on is just dominating
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  Speaker 6: our one-on-one matchups, winning with our fundamentals, and then putting
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  Speaker 6: our identity and our play style on display. And that's
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  Speaker 6: being the most physical unit, the most relentless unit, and
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  Speaker 6: playing within the defense, but taking advantage of our opportunities
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  Speaker 6: to impact the game.
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  Speaker 5: Forgive me if this is a basic question, but when
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  Speaker 5: you talk about one-on-ones, Josh Heinz-Allen and Trevor Walker, they're
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  Speaker 5: some of the most doubled guys in the league, right?
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  Speaker 5: So what is the workaround for that? And this may
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  Speaker 5: be a very basic question, so forgive me, but is
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  Speaker 5: there different ways to approach that, or is it just
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  Speaker 5: taking advantage because there's one extra guy going on them?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that there's things that we try to
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  Speaker 6: do to help those guys in those situations. I think
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  Speaker 6: we need to practice those situations. Like, um, one, it's, uh,
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  Speaker 6: to a certain extent, it's an honor for those guys
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  Speaker 6: to be doubled. You know, obviously they're on the radar of,
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  Speaker 6: of the opponents that we're playing, but at the end
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  Speaker 6: of the day, our job is to produce. So it
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  Speaker 6: doesn't matter if there's one guy on us or two
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  Speaker 6: guys on us or three guys on us, our jobs
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  Speaker 6: to impact the game. So we've got to find unique
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  Speaker 6: ways to drill that. We've got to find, um, some
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  Speaker 6: creative ways to get them away from some of those
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  Speaker 6: double teams, which I won't get into the schematics of it.
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  Speaker 4: But I think.
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  Speaker 6: We're all working together just to try to achieve the
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  Speaker 6: same goal, and that's to put them in position to
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  Speaker 6: impact the game.
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  Speaker 5: When you look back at both weeks, you see success
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  Speaker 5: in one week, maybe not so much the next week.
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  Speaker 5: Is it difficult? You don't want to overreact, of course,
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  Speaker 5: but it is a week-to-week game. So when you look
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  Speaker 5: back at film like that, how much of it is
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  Speaker 5: taking it with a grain of salt when you're going
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  Speaker 5: up against a great team like Denver, and then also
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  Speaker 5: staying within yourself going forward?
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  Speaker 6: I think regardless of the opponent, you kind of take
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  Speaker 6: that away. I think there's going to be games where
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  Speaker 6: there's plays that you wish you had back, maybe some
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  Speaker 6: split-second decisions that you make or something you could have
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  Speaker 6: done or should have done. And we're always just working
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  Speaker 6: together to get on the same page and fix and
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  Speaker 6: improve and enhance anything that we're doing well just so
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  Speaker 6: we can continue to take advantage of those opportunities.
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  Speaker 7: Our goal.
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  Speaker 6: We want to be disciplined but opportunistic. I'm not talking
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  Speaker 6: about being patient. I'm talking about being disciplined because your
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  Speaker 6: op might come on the first play of the game
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  Speaker 6: and we've got to take advantage of it. That's kind
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  Speaker 6: of what we're striving for, to be disciplined, but we've
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  Speaker 6: got to take advantage of ops because you don't know
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  Speaker 6: when they're going to show up, which means we've got
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  Speaker 6: to be going all the time.
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  Speaker 5: When you look ahead to the Patriots, what do they
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  Speaker 5: do well, and what is of concern with Drake May
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  Speaker 5: when maybe he's trying to get outside and scramble? Is
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  Speaker 5: that something you're focusing in on?
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  Speaker 6: I have a history with the staff there. Obviously, I've
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  Speaker 6: worked for Mike Vrabel. I worked for Josh McDaniels. They're
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  Speaker 6: a disciplined group. They're trying to instill toughness in their program,
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  Speaker 6: and I respect what they're trying to do. It's a
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  Speaker 6: lot of the same things that we want to do here.
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  Speaker 6: as far as being the most physical team on the
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  Speaker 6: field that day. You know, Drake May is a great player.
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  Speaker 6: He certainly presents some challenges with his legs and kind
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  Speaker 6: of his play style, but we just got to make
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  Speaker 6: sure that we're all on the same page and just
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  Speaker 6: playing really well connected as a front to do our job,
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  Speaker 6: to do what we need to do to have success.
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  Speaker 3: In the game.
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  Speaker 5: The little things you guys want to play wherever, play
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  Speaker 5: anybody at any time, but It is nice to be
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  Speaker 5: home once in a while, especially this time of year.
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  Speaker 5: Do you have to use that to your advantage a bit,
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  Speaker 5: especially when this team is going to be on the
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  Speaker 5: road a ton back end of the season?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, we're not thinking about anything on the
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  Speaker 6: back end of the season. All we're thinking about is
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  Speaker 6: what the job is this week. And that starts with
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  Speaker 6: what our job is tomorrow in practice. So we're kind
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  Speaker 6: of setting our minds on going out and having a
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  Speaker 6: great practice tomorrow. And then we'll worry about the day
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  Speaker 6: after that. And then when the game comes, obviously playing
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  Speaker 6: at home in front of our fans is.
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  Speaker 1: Always, it's a privilege.
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  Speaker 4: It's a privilege to get.
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  Speaker 6: To play at home. And we want to make sure
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  Speaker 6: we're putting the best possible product out on the field
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  Speaker 6: that everybody here in Jacksonville as a community and a
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  Speaker 6: city can be proud of.
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  Speaker 4: Coach, thank you.
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  Speaker 6: Best of luck on Sunday.
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  Speaker 8: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: The big guys on the offensive side of the ball
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  Speaker 1: weren't much happier this week. The running game was okay,
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  Speaker 1: but they don't settle for okay in Jacksonville. And it
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  Speaker 1: seems everyone took their turn making a mistake in pass
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  Speaker 1: protection against an outstanding Broncos defensive front that harassed quarterback
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  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence all afternoon long. I really appreciate Jaguars offensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach Sean Surrett. who does an excellent job explaining
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  Speaker 1: what's going on up front. He's been busy since training
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  Speaker 1: camp began in late July, with a major decision at
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  Speaker 1: left tackle, a rookie at left guard, and plenty of
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  Speaker 1: other moves along a line that craves consistency but hasn't
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  Speaker 1: had it. I referred to you affectionately as the ringmaster
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  Speaker 1: in August because you had a five-ring circus. with all
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  Speaker 1: the injuries that you had to deal with and trying
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  Speaker 1: to get guys settled in new spots on the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line and, you know, trying to work everybody through, how
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  Speaker 1: did that process work to your betterment? How does it
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  Speaker 1: help you to have been through that in August with
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  Speaker 1: all the moves and machinations you had to have?
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  Speaker 3: It's funny you say that. It's actually a lot easier
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  Speaker 3: in August when you say that. And a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people think, man, that in training camp, but it really is.
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  Speaker 3: The bullets are not flying like they are. Just like
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  Speaker 3: I just told those guys a few minutes ago. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: come Sunday, it's different than on practice. It truly is,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and then we got to callous our minds
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  Speaker 3: for that, but the idea of that was our linemen
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  Speaker 3: in our room, they have to be able to be
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  Speaker 3: flexible at other spots. You just can't be an all
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  Speaker 3: pro at one spot, right? I want them to be
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  Speaker 3: all pro at multiple spots if they can, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so it's the idea of like, you know, we only
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  Speaker 3: get seven to eight guys on game day. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I came up in a world 10 years ago where
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  Speaker 3: you're kind of holding on to yourself. You had one
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  Speaker 3: backup for inside, one backup for outside. So you want
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  Speaker 3: to cheat these guys to play multiple spots and be
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  Speaker 3: able to go in and perform what needs to be done.
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  Speaker 1: So how does that help prepare a guy like Jonah Monheim,
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  Speaker 1: who's not starting right now, but who might have to
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  Speaker 1: play at some point? Robert gets beat up and he
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  Speaker 1: has to go in for a couple of plays. How
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  Speaker 1: does it help a guy like him or Wyatt Milam,
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  Speaker 1: who might have to play in the second half of
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  Speaker 1: a game because Colvin Landon's beat up?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's growing. It's growing for them, and
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  Speaker 3: it truly is. And that's the thing. They're taking the
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  Speaker 3: steps not only in games, but they're doing it here
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  Speaker 3: at practice. You know, they're taking reps in the show
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  Speaker 3: team and then coming back over, taking reps with the ones,
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  Speaker 3: you know, going against our show team. And it's good
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  Speaker 3: for them, you know, because what's great about it is
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  Speaker 3: they have to do all this and still get ready
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  Speaker 3: for the game. So they could be working on a
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  Speaker 3: totally different defense, our defense, and then they have to
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  Speaker 3: be ready for like a defense like the Patriots, who's
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  Speaker 3: a different defense. You know, we're a four down team
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  Speaker 3: where they're a 3-4 team.
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  Speaker 1: How do you use a week that doesn't go the
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  Speaker 1: way that you want it to get sharp for the
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  Speaker 1: next week?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I always say to them, you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: this is an important week. And why is it important?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's the next week. It truly is. You got
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  Speaker 3: to have a short memory in the NFL, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when it comes down to it, because guess what? There's
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  Speaker 3: 16 more. 15 more, whatever it may be, and then playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the nature of it. You want
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  Speaker 3: to be one of those teams in the playoff, you've
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  Speaker 3: got to have a short memory because the next week's coming.
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  Speaker 3: Either you're ready or not. You've got to let go
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  Speaker 3: of what happened, and you've got to move on to
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  Speaker 3: the next one.
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  Speaker 1: Sally always likes to talk about how a defensive lineman
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  Speaker 1: can make a mistake at a critical moment. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want to just catch it, but an offensive lineman, right,
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  Speaker 1: make one mistake and it shows up everywhere. It's about
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  Speaker 1: having a short memory. Are offensive linemen finally conditioned to that,
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  Speaker 1: or is that something that you have to work on
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  Speaker 1: with them?
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  Speaker 3: No, you do have to work on with them. Even
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  Speaker 3: me saying that, I can still tell they carry stuff
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  Speaker 3: with them. Just like me. I ain't going to lie
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  Speaker 3: to you. I'm still carrying stuff from 10 years ago.
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  Speaker 3: I go home some nights and be trying to go
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  Speaker 3: to sleep, and I think about it. I'm like, man,
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  Speaker 3: I wish I had that one back. That's just part
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  Speaker 3: of it. Just like you said, you've got to have
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  Speaker 3: that short memory, and you've got to be able to
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  Speaker 3: transition into the next one because it's coming.
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  Speaker 1: Sean, you smiled when I mentioned Buscelli's name. How does
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  Speaker 1: it help you? What's it like to have the executive
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  Speaker 1: vice president of football operations be a Hall of Fame
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  Speaker 1: offensive tackle? And you know that he's around your guys.
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  Speaker 1: He's paying attention because it's what he does.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what else could you ask for here
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  Speaker 3: in this building? You know, a guy that's a gold
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  Speaker 3: jacket player and a gold jacket person. You know, you've
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  Speaker 3: got questions for him. And like me, if I have
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  Speaker 3: a question, I'm going to go to him. And I
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  Speaker 3: tell my players as well, why not? That guy's been
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  Speaker 3: through it, you know, and He's a guy that you
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  Speaker 3: can lean on.
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  Speaker 1: How's Anton Dunn making the move from right tackle to
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  Speaker 1: left tackle? People know he played left tackle in college,
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  Speaker 1: but he hadn't done that in the NFL. How's that going?
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  Speaker 3: It's going well. The transition over there really wasn't bothersome
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  Speaker 3: for him. He's shown his athleticism and all that, which
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  Speaker 3: has really helped us.
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  Speaker 1: How about Emmanuel Pregnant playing next to him? He's a rookie,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know that anybody expected him to be
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  Speaker 1: in that spot, but he earned it. How's that chemistry
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  Speaker 1: going with Hainsey and with Anton Dunn?
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: It's going well, you know, and that's the thing, like
• 14:50
  Speaker 3: even Anton gets involved with that, the chemistry of that side,
• 14:53
  Speaker 3: they're communicating well, you know, and it goes back to
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: like a tips of the hat with Ezra because, you know,
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Ezra was the type of guy, we asked him to
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: move the right guard and he didn't bat an eye.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: He was the type of guy that said, yeah, no
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: problem because we wanted to make the transition a little
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: bit easier for the rookie. You know, a guy that
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: had been in that position, the left guard spot in college,
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: you know, we just sent him transitioning to him over.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I remember talking to you last year about Cole, when
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Cole had started a couple of different spots and the
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: admiration you had for him. How about what he's done
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: to get back? I mean, it wasn't even eight months rehabilitation.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: He gets back into the lineup. Your thoughts on what
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: it takes to do that and how he's playing?
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a tip of the hat to him, man.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: You know, and I'm still talking to him like, hey,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: take it easy. Take it easy. Because just like you
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: just said, eight months. ACL repair. You worry about that,
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: but he's the type of guy that just goes out
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: and performs every day, and he does it at a
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: high level. He's in the training room. He's doing everything
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: he can to make sure that thing's healthy, and he's
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: done a great job for us.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the running game because
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I know it was an area of focus because last
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: year it fell off in the last six games. Do
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you like where it's at right now? What do you
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: need to see, not just today against the Patriots, but
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: going forward to know that it's something that'll be consistent
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: for you?
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Well, the reason why it's made a point is because
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: Coach Cohen wants to run the ball. And Brian Pacucci
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: has been brought in as the run coordinator, and he's
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: done a great job as well. And just all of
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: us in there figuring that out, and we just want
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: to continue to improve week to week. Like last year,
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: we were running the ball well, and then all of
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: a sudden it was a drop-off.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Because people might not know this, what does a run
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: game coordinator do?
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: He actually, well, just like I said, he's coordinating the runs,
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: but it's all of our thoughts, you know, and that's
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: something like, you know, you sat there and just like,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you know, with Grant, you know, he's the offensive coordinator,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: but it's everybody's thoughts within the group, and he's got
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: to take the ones he thinks are the best, and
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: then he's got to take those ideas, and he can
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: like put some to his thoughts, put some to his formations,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: and then we gel it all together. and then shows
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: up on Sunday, which that's kind of crazy what people
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: don't realize how much work's actually put into this. They
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: just see the finished product on Sunday and they think,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: oh wow, okay, but they don't realize the hours these
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: guys put in and so forth and so on to
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: get there.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: If you took all the people that are in this
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: building and all the hours they work, I think people
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: would be blown away by what it takes to get
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: ready for a game day.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes there does. I mean, I know they're And
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: another guy, too, is Trevor Mendelson. He's an assistant line
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: coach for us. He's the guy that's doing all the drawings.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: He's the guy that's breaking all the film. I mean,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: he's in here hours upon hours. And just like you said,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: it's those small guys in those positions that make this
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: machine run.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Offensive line coaches I know grind. I always used to
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: hear from Paul Boudreaux about the Mushroom Society, but I
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: want to get a global perspective on this. We're a
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: couple weeks into this now. You've been here for more
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: than a year. Just the overall... energy with this football team.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: It feels, Sean, when I'm just around this group, they
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: really like playing with one another. They like what they're
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: doing and they feel good about the direction you guys
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: are headed. Do you see it that way?
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. Even in our room, that's the thing.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: They have to gel with one another. I always say
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: to them, we're all different personalities in this room, but
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: we all got to have the common culture. The idea
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: of that common goal and they understand that because all
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: of them are different just like the coaches the three
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: coaches that are in there and they see it we
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: all are in there we're all presenting we're all different
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: we're all different how we present stuff you know and
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: i think it's a good little click together and that's
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: something that it helps them because one way i say
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: something it may be completely different how trevor says it
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: or how bp says it so it's really.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Good thanks for the insight i appreciate go get them today.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah appreciate you guys we'll see you out there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Running back Chris Rodriguez is a hammer in the Jaguars'
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: offensive backfield. He's the big body that's going to move
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the pile and keep the Jaguars' offense moving when they
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: really need a first down. But when he leaves the
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Miller Electric Center these days and heads for home, he
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: has to leave that hammer persona behind for something more
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: akin to a teddy bear. I'll let him explain. How's
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the adjustment been? You were in Washington to start your career.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Now you're in Jacksonville. It does take a little bit
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: of getting used to. How's it been?
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Honestly, it's been good.
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: I guess the biggest part, I would say, is the heat.
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: I mean, then you got the football side of things,
• 19:17
  Speaker 9: new offense. But I'm familiar with it because of college. And,
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: you know, we're still adjusting every day. Every day is
• 19:25
  Speaker 9: better than the previous, and we're just going to keep building.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: The adjustment isn't just here. It's at home, too, because
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: it's not just you. You have a family. How's their
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: adjustment been?
• 19:34
  Speaker 9: Honestly, I would say it's tough, but only because... It's
• 19:39
  Speaker 9: not just moving my wife here. We moved here and uh,
• 19:43
  Speaker 9: we had a baby, you know, we had our first child.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Um, she is 12 weeks now.
• 19:50
  Speaker 9: So obviously that's been the biggest adjustment outside of football, but, um,
• 19:55
  Speaker 9: you know, it's, it's a blessing. And, uh, me and
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: my wife are attacking that head on.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Tell me about the attacking process. I bet you can't
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: wait to get home.
• 20:02
  Speaker 9: Oh, uh, I mean, you know, I love my baby,
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: you know, um, talking to Amir about, you know, how
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: it was when he had his baby while he was
• 20:10
  Speaker 9: in the league. Uh, you know, he just told me like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 9: you know, you're going to play free, you know, you
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: got a bigger purpose now and you're going to feel
• 20:16
  Speaker 9: so loose when you're out there.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: And I do.
• 20:18
  Speaker 9: Um, and then at home, I mean, you know, it's,
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: it's a lot of adjusting. It's caring for the baby
• 20:23
  Speaker 9: and the dogs, uh, and making sure we're doing enough for, uh,
• 20:28
  Speaker 9: our little girl. Um, and you know, she's young, she's
• 20:31
  Speaker 9: adjusting to a new, a new place, you know? So,
• 20:35
  Speaker 9: We're taking it day by day, and we're figuring out
• 20:37
  Speaker 9: new things, and I'm thankful that I have a good
• 20:40
  Speaker 9: crew around me that have kids and, you know, people
• 20:45
  Speaker 9: that I can talk to like Dennis Kardec or Amir
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: or Trevor or Jacoby. You know, those guys, just to
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: name a few, you know, they've been through it, so
• 20:54
  Speaker 9: they help me on the outside.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: This locker room is a pretty special place. I mean,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of really good human beings in it.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: That isn't always the case.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, not at all.
• 21:02
  Speaker 8: I mean.
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: Just to name a few, I mean, Jacoby, I met
• 21:08
  Speaker 9: Jacoby in Britain strange. I met, um, a couple of
• 21:11
  Speaker 9: years ago, you know, um, just through outside training and.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: Uh, Jacoby was always one of those dudes who were
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: down to earth.
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: You know, I, I thought, you know, he's this guy
• 21:21
  Speaker 9: who he's getting paid a lot. He might not be
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: as cool as I think he is, but man, I
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: talked to him and strange and man, those guys have
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: led me in the right path, especially being in a
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: new place. Um, they've, they've been a tremendous help. Oh,
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: and Trayvon, Trayvon was there as well. Um, but yeah, man,
• 21:38
  Speaker 9: those guys, once they figured out, um, that I would
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: be here, you know, Trevor or Trayvon, he got my number.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: He said, text me if you need anything. Same for
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: strange and Jacoby.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: Tell me about this week. I mean, you come up
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: for loss. People are disappointed to have a locker room
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like this makes that process easier, doesn't it?
• 21:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, a hundred percent.
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: I mean, you know, it's, it's only week two, you know, it's, uh,
• 22:01
  Speaker 9: there's no time to hang your heads. Um, We know
• 22:04
  Speaker 9: what it's going to take. As soon as we came
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: out of that game, it was how can we adjust
• 22:10
  Speaker 9: and attack the next week, knowing what we didn't accomplish
• 22:14
  Speaker 9: in last week's prep. So getting back, obviously we watched
• 22:21
  Speaker 9: the game that next day and just flush it. It's
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: time to move on. There's another opponent who played in
• 22:31
  Speaker 9: the Super Bowl last year, same team or not, They
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: were in the Super Bowl, so obviously they know what
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: it takes to be there. Their coaching staff know what
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: it takes to be there, and we've got to go
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: out and prove ourselves.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it to play a big game against
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what you just said, defending AFC champs, coming off a loss?
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: How difficult is it just to stay in the moment
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and not think about what's next or what happened before?
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, again, at the end of the day,
• 22:58
  Speaker 9: it's our prep. We know we're capable of a lot
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: of good things, but The only thing holding us back
• 23:05
  Speaker 9: are the minor details because at the end of the day,
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: everybody has a good team. They have high-paid players or
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: whatever the case may be.
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: The difference between the.
• 23:20
  Speaker 9: Teams that play at the end of the year and
• 23:22
  Speaker 9: are done in January is the little details. Everybody's going
• 23:25
  Speaker 9: to be physical. Everybody's going to play hard, but it's
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: the little details. How can we execute our details at
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: a high level better than them?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: And do the details become more magnified, more focused upon
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in a week when you didn't have success the week before?
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Does everybody dial in on them?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think so.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: As a running back group, there were small details that
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: we thought we were hitting in the game, but we
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: weren't once we watched the film. And again, I mean,
• 23:50
  Speaker 9: all details, they're all small. No matter small or big detail,
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: it just has to get taken care of.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And whether you dial in it or not, the coaches
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: are going to dial in on it. So you're sure
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you're going to hear about it. They brought you here
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: to fix the running game, to help.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: That.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: You weren't here last year, so it's tough to make
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a comparison, but do you feel like the running game
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: is making progress and going in the direction you want
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it to go?
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I would say so. I mean, I won't ever
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: say anything bad about our running game, you know? I
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: think that we know what we can do as a
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: running back group, and a lot of us kind of...
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: I wouldn't say a lot of us.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Me, instead of.
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: Doing my job, I'm always... trying to be two steps ahead,
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: which that's not the way it needs to be. I
• 24:35
  Speaker 9: got to be patient and let the game kind of
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: come to me instead of just attacking it head on,
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: you know. I feel like I've been in a rush
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: my last two games because I challenged myself to play fast,
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: but at the end of the day, just going back
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: to square one, reading my keys, being tight on the details,
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: and at the end of the day, playing fast will
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: help me.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's because the Maxwell house plant is that way.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: And there's a Maxwell house coffee can behind you. Is
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: there a story with that? Is it, and can you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: share it?
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: Oh, uh, yeah, there was a, uh, our media crew
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: went around yesterday and they asked us, um, tea or coffee. And, um,
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: I think it's like, uh, well, I like coffee. So
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: I have an espresso machine at my house. Uh, me
• 25:22
  Speaker 9: and my wife both love coffee, not really big tea drinkers. Um,
• 25:26
  Speaker 9: and when I told him coffee, they just handed me
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: a Maxwell, uh, little container so have you seen the
• 25:31
  Speaker 9: plant you know it's down the street uh i haven't
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: seen it but i you can smell it during uh
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: camp when i first got here i was you know
• 25:37
  Speaker 9: what's that smell and they said that's a coffee house
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: or coffee whatever it is it's.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: A side benefit signing with the jags you get the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: coffee smell in the.
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: Morning exactly and it helps a lot i'll tell you
• 25:45
  Speaker 9: that best of luck today yes sir thank you.
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: We finished with one of my favorites fred taylor understands
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the week-to-week nature of the national football league better than
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: most We talk this week about the big story surrounding
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars, Brian Thomas Jr., Travis Hunter, and rebounding from
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: a disappointing performance in Denver last Sunday. 14 teams are
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: 1-1 this week, and the Jaguars would like to rise
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: with the group that goes to 2-1. They're back home
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: where they've won four in a row, posted a 7-1
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: record last year, which matches your team from 1999 for
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the best single season home record in Jaguars history, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: You just expect that this football team coming home is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: going to come home a little bit angry. That's what
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: we've been hearing from coaches and players this week. They're
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: a little angry with their performance, and I'm told that
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: their practice has been outstanding this week.
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: Yeah, no, it's cool to be angry, but it's a
• 26:45
  Speaker 7: good thing to be angry, Brian, and not be able
• 26:49
  Speaker 7: to control your emotions because anger can easily lead to
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: frustrations if things don't go as expected. or naturally as
• 26:59
  Speaker 7: you know if things don't go your way so you
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: have to be careful in that sense when you're when
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: you're talking angry now if they're sharp and focused and
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: just ready to forget about last week knowing they had
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: an opportunity to walk away with a win that that's
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: another thing so you know we're going to look at
• 27:17
  Speaker 7: how this game starts whether it's fast or if it's
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: just you know sort of kind of methodical and uh
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: i want to see how they respond you know i want.
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: To see how how they look straight out the gate.
• 27:31
  Speaker 7: If they're going to be fired, if they're going to
• 27:34
  Speaker 7: be focused on catching the balls they're supposed to catch,
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: doing their assignments. But more importantly, unlike what we saw
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: last week, Brian, finish. Starting fast is great, but are
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: you able to finish?
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, is that just part of the maturation of a
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: young football team that you learn this is a week-to-week
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: league and not to let the frustration carry over, be
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: able to get back and start fresh on Wednesday when
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: you return to the facility?
• 28:00
  Speaker 7: You know, I think that's when leadership has to step up.
• 28:04
  Speaker 7: You know, veteran leadership in the locker room, the coaching leadership,
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: the things, the messages that they're displaying throughout the week,
• 28:13
  Speaker 7: and just being able to be poised That's what the standards,
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: one thing, but the culture that they've tried to establish
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: there and the identity that they've been building is one
• 28:26
  Speaker 7: of that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Let's not.
• 28:30
  Speaker 7: Worry about a helicopter over the previous week. Let's move forward.
• 28:35
  Speaker 7: Our mantra at the pivot is accept, adjust, move forward.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: We believe that's what the pivot is all about. And
• 28:43
  Speaker 7: this is what this team is going to have to do.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: to show that they're that team that can make that
• 28:48
  Speaker 7: next leap.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: All right, well, one of the ways that we thought
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: we knew this team was going to play was very
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: physical on both the offensive and defensive lines. And yet
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: last week, they got moved by the Broncos. It didn't
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: matter whether it was offense or defense. So heading into
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: week three, what do you know about this group up front?
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: You know, I think when you look at this Patriots team,
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: obviously in week one, they weren't able to get much
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: pressure on Drew Luck. after Sam Darnold went out, excuse me.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: And last week you saw this team, they did a
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: total opposite. But more importantly, they were able to run
• 29:27
  Speaker 7: the football and they did that at a high clip
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: a week ago. They had a few long runs as well.
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: So that's not going to happen against this Jaguars team.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: This team is going to go back, get back to
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: the basics because a year ago, they were number one
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: against the one that run. They pride themselves to be
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: able to stop the run first, making teams one dimensional
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: and then allow those amazing defensive ends and Josh Allen
• 29:53
  Speaker 7: and Trayvon Walker an opportunity to get after the passer. And,
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: you know, I believe the Patriots have a young quarterback that's,
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: you know, he's a very good quarterback. But if you
• 30:04
  Speaker 7: put pressure on Drake May, he'll make some mistakes. So
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: minimize the run game. Go and show that you can
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: stop the run early. And now in passing situations, when
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: you know you're supposed to win, you got to go
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: out and execute and win.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Fred, I'm told by some folks in the building that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: the key to beating this Patriots offense is to keep
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Drake May in the pocket, to make him play quarterback.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: They're running essentially the same offense that you once ran
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  Speaker 1: when you were with the Patriots, the same one that
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady ran, just he's not quite Tom Brady. Your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts on the Jaguars keeping him in the pocket and
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  Speaker 1: his ability when he gets out on the run?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it goes back to discipline.
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  Speaker 7: What Tom Brady was great at, he was great at
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  Speaker 7: shuffling right in that little box. Tom wanted the defensive
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  Speaker 7: ends to go past him so he can step up, slide,
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  Speaker 7: and make his throws.
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  Speaker 8: This is what made him great.
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  Speaker 7: Young quarterbacks, they tend to panic when that pressure is
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  Speaker 7: zooming past them. They will step up, but then they're
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  Speaker 7: looking to run. Tom was never that. And I do
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  Speaker 7: believe it. You can get pressure up and then also
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  Speaker 7: push the pocket up the middle. Then you give yourself
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  Speaker 7: an opportunity. Drake May, again, like I said, he's a
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  Speaker 7: young guy, but he's mobile. He has great legs, great
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  Speaker 7: running ability, and he can throw on the outside when
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: he's running. Same thing Trevor Lawrence can do. But you
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: want to try your best to be disciplined in your
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  Speaker 7: lane assignment. Get pressure, but make sure you understand that
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  Speaker 7: there are going to be times when you have to
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  Speaker 7: retrace after you force him to step. So he doesn't
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  Speaker 7: play the lateral game outside the pocket.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Fred, one of the things I like most
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  Speaker 1: about where you are in your career right now is
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  Speaker 1: you can give us the global perspective from a league-wide
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: view as well as the Jaguars perspective. So give me
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts on Travis Hunter. It's become a conversation. Some
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  Speaker 1: would call it noise outside the building that he's not
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  Speaker 1: playing well, that he's not playing enough snaps, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: aren't developing right. The facts are that he will start
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  Speaker 1: his 10th game, play his 10th NFL game on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: against the Patriots.
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  Speaker 8: He won't be full-seasoned.
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  Speaker 1: Until the Sunday before Thanksgiving when he faces the New
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: York Giants. So he's just really getting started. Your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on Travis Hunter, the conversation, if not controversy.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think it's chatter. It's the conversation. It
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  Speaker 7: comes with football. It comes with being the number two
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  Speaker 7: overall pick. The expectations are, you know, through the stratosphere. Travis,
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  Speaker 7: what Travis has to do is Travis has to find
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  Speaker 7: a way to, you know, not pay attention to the noise.
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  Speaker 8: I think you go back a week ago, you look
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  Speaker 8: at a defensive pass interference. I thought it was good coverage.
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  Speaker 7: I believe they call him for the shield, the face guard,
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  Speaker 7: and pretty much putting his hand up saying, hey, I
• 32:59
  Speaker 7: got this guy covered.
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  Speaker 8: Along the way, he's going to understand that he can't
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  Speaker 8: guard like this.
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  Speaker 7: He's going to have to just cover the guy and
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  Speaker 7: defend and play the ball and not necessarily play the receiver.
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  Speaker 7: And he'll learn that over time. So I thought that
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  Speaker 7: was a good play. He'll continue to build in his reps.
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  Speaker 7: I don't believe anyone cares about the fact that he's
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  Speaker 7: only played 10 games, especially when you're drafted number two.
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  Speaker 8: As you recall, in 98, I was the ninth pick.
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  Speaker 7: I came around a little slower, but by the 10th
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  Speaker 7: game of my rookie year, Brian, I was damn near close.
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  Speaker 8: To 1,000 yards. You were on your way.
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  Speaker 7: I was probably 600 or 700 yards, at least 700 yards,
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  Speaker 7: on my way to becoming the team's first 1,000-yard rusher.
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  Speaker 8: So no one cares that he's only played 10 games.
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  Speaker 8: He's out there.
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  Speaker 7: They want him to be productive and make plays. And
• 33:54
  Speaker 7: that's what the coach is going to want. That's what
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: the fans are going to want. The players around the
• 33:59
  Speaker 7: NFL is going to want that from Travis. And I'm
• 34:01
  Speaker 7: sure Travis wants that. But it comes with repetition. So
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  Speaker 7: I don't know, man. I've heard the noise. I heard,
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  Speaker 7: why isn't he out there on these snaps and this
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  Speaker 7: and that?
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  Speaker 8: I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Like, the coaches know. They're the only ones that have
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  Speaker 7: an answer to why is he in and why isn't
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  Speaker 7: he in. Until they say something, I'm just a fly.
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  Speaker 8: On the wall. I would love to be on the wall, actually.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just outside the building.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: I really don't know. I would love to know.
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  Speaker 1: To your point about rookies producing, when Brian Thomas Jr.
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  Speaker 1: was a rookie... He produced 10 touchdowns, 1,200 yards, 84 catches.
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  Speaker 1: He's the other story this week. And to me, it's
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: not about, it is always about the drops, right? Especially
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: the drop in the second half that would have been
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: first and 10 at the 24. I get it. My
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: point is simply that the offense doesn't need to run
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  Speaker 1: through him anymore. We have this opinion of what he is,
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  Speaker 1: but what his production has become doesn't match what he
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was as a rookie. You've got other productive receivers, guys who's,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: yards per target is much higher. I mean, starting with
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, but followed by Parker Washington, Josh Cameron, Brenton Strange.
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  Speaker 1: My thought is he's got to earn his time. It's
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: time for other guys to see the football.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the coaches know. I mean, you can't run from
• 35:20
  Speaker 7: that camera. The eye in the sky don't lie. You know,
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: they see all 22 players. And then when you start
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: to create these, you know, when you start to create
• 35:32
  Speaker 7: these moments, in which BTJ has dropped in the ball,
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: showing a lot of inconsistency.
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  Speaker 8: He's put himself on the microscope.
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  Speaker 7: So not only that they're seeing the entire 22, they're
• 35:45
  Speaker 7: looking at and critiquing him every single moment, every single snap.
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  Speaker 7: They're going back to their meetings post-game and saying, look,
• 35:54
  Speaker 7: this is how he's grading, right? And you know that, Brian.
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  Speaker 7: You've been in the building. And James Gladstone, Tony Buscelli,
• 36:01
  Speaker 7: Liam Cohen, they know. Like they're creating a plan around
• 36:06
  Speaker 7: BTJ and the noise is the noise. And you never
• 36:10
  Speaker 7: know what's going to happen in those circumstances until a
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: decision is made from within the building.
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  Speaker 8: So BTJ, he has not depressed.
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  Speaker 7: He has to just find a way to get back
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  Speaker 7: to making plays, whether that's in Jacksonville. And I say
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: it all the time is 31 other teams or whether
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: it's somewhere else, but if he's not making plays here,
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: The adventure is going to be somewhere else. And that's
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: just the business. And I'm not knocking him. I love
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: the kid. I think he's an amazing talent. He has
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: to get back in his zone. And I'm going to
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: always root for him, no matter what.
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  Speaker 1: Is the reason he's the second most targeted. And you
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: would know this, right? Because you and Jimmy Smith played
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: off of each other so well. The deep threat scared
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: safeties into backing off the line of scrimmage. And then
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: yet when you got going, it brought them closer to
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. There was a given.
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  Speaker 8: And then Jimmy did his thing.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Between 28 and 82 in the glory years of Jaguars football.
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  Speaker 1: Is that why he's so targeted? because these coaches understand
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: what he could possibly mean. And by the way, can
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: you get it done? Put him to the side. Are
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: there other players on this roster who can give you that?
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  Speaker 8: There are other players on the roster who can give
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: you that.
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  Speaker 7: We saw Jacoby Myers when he came to town a
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  Speaker 7: year ago, making play after play after play. We saw
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  Speaker 7: the emergence of Parker Washington after BTJ was sidelined with
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: his finger, his hand, you know, a few other injuries.
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  Speaker 7: parker washington emerged we saw brenton strange in a tight
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  Speaker 7: end position get more opportunities uh when btj wasn't the
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  Speaker 7: focal point so this is what you know taking advantage
• 37:48
  Speaker 7: of the opportunities mean when your numbers call and again
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: the coaches are going to find a way to create
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  Speaker 7: opportunities for these guys who have shown that they are
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  Speaker 7: consistent that they will make plays when when there's a
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  Speaker 7: time to uh make those plays and clutch moments so Look,
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  Speaker 7: you can't count him out. I'm sure the defenses aren't
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  Speaker 7: going to sleep on him. They know he's capable. They
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: just don't know when because of the inconsistency.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's put your offensive coordinator or quarterback hat
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  Speaker 1: on for a second here. You're Trevor Lawrence, and Parker
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  Speaker 1: Washington is your most targeted threat, and he is the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: best receiver you've got going right now. But Christian Gonzalez
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: is going to spend the whole day looking for number 11.
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  Speaker 1: Do you go at it? Do you still try to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: force the ball in there? Christian Gonzalez, to my way
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: of thinking, is the best cornerback in football. How do
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: you approach Parker Washington and Christian Gonzalez today?
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  Speaker 8: Me against who? Hey, this is why you compete. You
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: don't back down. You make him make a play. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: he's great. He's the highest paid. So what? Make him
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  Speaker 8: make a play. A week ago, Pat Sertain Jr. were
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  Speaker 8: out there.
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  Speaker 7: He didn't get a ton of targets his way, but
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  Speaker 7: some balls went his way. Like, make him make a play.
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  Speaker 7: I don't care who's out there. Like, I don't understand
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  Speaker 7: that philosophy. We're going to not throw at you. No,
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  Speaker 7: we're going to challenge you. And even if it costs
• 39:14
  Speaker 7: us a ball game, we're not just going to let
• 39:16
  Speaker 7: you take a break. I don't get it. Like, maybe
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  Speaker 7: it's me. If I were a receiver, I'm coming at you.
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  Speaker 7: And I want my quarterback to have confidence in me.
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  Speaker 7: That's what can is. That's the way we communicate that way.
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  Speaker 7: And Parker wants to be able to get out there
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  Speaker 7: and say, look, I've been asking for a contract.
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to show you all why I need to
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: get paid.
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  Speaker 7: This is why. I want these type of challenges. And
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: my quarterback and I, we got to be on the
• 39:46
  Speaker 7: same page. When I get open, the ball needs to
• 39:47
  Speaker 7: be there.
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  Speaker 8: That's it. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I spent some time with him in the locker room
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  Speaker 1: this week, and that's exactly Parker's mentality. So let's end
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  Speaker 1: on this. Our buddy Tony Buscelli likes to say it's
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: the most important game in the history of the franchise
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: because it's the next one. And certainly, who could argue
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: with that? It's the defending AFC champions, the New England Patriots,
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  Speaker 1: coming in. And it's going to be a race all
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: season long to stay in the upper echelon of the AFC,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: especially if you want a shot at hosting playoff games
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: here come January and February. Hopefully February. Here's the question, though.
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  Speaker 1: This is the last game they're playing here for 35 days. That,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: to me, really adds a little bit more to it. Jags,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: as I mentioned off the top, four straight home wins, seven,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: eight of their last nine they've won here. It's a
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: big game for this football team. How do you suppose,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: if you were getting ready to play it, this locker
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: room's getting ready to play it, how do they see it?
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  Speaker 7: You know, I think the players don't necessarily– buy into
• 40:50
  Speaker 7: that part of it. It's the next game, like Tony said.
• 40:55
  Speaker 7: It's the next opponent, next opportunity. It's the next home game. Yes,
• 40:59
  Speaker 7: it's a home game. You're excited to be home. But
• 41:01
  Speaker 7: I don't believe that they are looking at it from afar, right?
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  Speaker 7: They're not looking at it like, well, we gotta get
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: this one because we won't be here for another month.
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: They're saying, we gotta get this one because this is
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: the next one. And it's a Patriot team who's a
• 41:19
  Speaker 7: good ball club. So regardless of when the next home
• 41:24
  Speaker 7: game is, this is the next home game for them.
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  Speaker 8: And that's the approach. There's a mentality.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: And they got to lock in and try to finish
• 41:31
  Speaker 7: this one and go up to one. Because if they
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: look back, I think what's most important, and I'll close
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: on this, is when you look at the AFC South
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: at one and seven.
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  Speaker 8: You don't see.
• 41:42
  Speaker 7: A really good conference right now or a really good
• 41:45
  Speaker 7: division right now. So you can separate yourself. Focus on that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: Let's not focus on 35 days away. Let's focus on
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: the Patriots and widening the gap in our division.
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  Speaker 3: Well, there you go.
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  Speaker 1: Another episode of A Few Good Minutes with a few
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: good people. We'll see you Sunday for the Jaguars and Patriots.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Our coverage begins with a public tailgate show starting at
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: 10 o'clock Eastern time on 1010XL and the Jaguars YouTube channel.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I hope you'll join us.
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  Speaker 3: Go Jags!