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Alec Baldwin on TLC, Traitors Cast and RHONJ Cancelled · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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  Speaker 2: every single one. Okay, you guys, I'm a little bit
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  Speaker 2: shaking because coming here was an adventure for me to
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  Speaker 2: come record this show. So Brandon was driving me so
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  Speaker 2: that I can prepare even more because I have so
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  Speaker 2: much juicy scoop to deliver today. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he goes, oh, my God. And I get nervous.
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at my phone. I think we're about to
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  Speaker 2: get in an accident. He sees something horrible. No. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: JoJo Siwa. So she's going down Ventura Boulevard. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: we got to follow her. And it is her. Now,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people have seen that she has a
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  Speaker 2: wrapped Tesla with her name all over it. She now
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  Speaker 2: has a wrapped Lamborghini SUV dedicated to her hit song,
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  Speaker 2: Karma's a Bitch. So we started following her. Now, this
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  Speaker 2: is very close to my in my neighborhood. This is
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  Speaker 2: minutes from my house. And I was like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what we're going to do. So we take I
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  Speaker 2: I'm filming it and he takes his phone and we
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  Speaker 2: start blasting Karma's a Bitch. But this is a single
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  Speaker 2: highway type of situation. So otherwise I would have come
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  Speaker 2: to the side of her and waved and let her
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  Speaker 2: know I'm playing her song because I know she wants
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  Speaker 2: people to know that– wants people to know her song.
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  Speaker 2: So anyway, then we get to where her house is.
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  Speaker 2: And she pulls in. Now I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 2: on her property. But I'm like– I live in the neighborhood.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just going to act like I'm a mom walking
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  Speaker 2: who runs into her. So I start walking and I'm
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  Speaker 2: like– JoJo! And she goes, oh, hey. And I go,
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  Speaker 2: it's Heather McDonald from Juicy Scoop! And then she just
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  Speaker 2: slammed the door. And it was like, it wasn't too
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  Speaker 2: far from her gate, which her house is gated, and
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  Speaker 2: her front door. I don't know if she heard the
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  Speaker 2: Juicy Scoop part, but yeah. So I don't know. She
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  Speaker 2: wasn't as into it as I thought. But it was
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  Speaker 2: an exciting morning. And I just, this is a day
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  Speaker 2: in the life of chasing the scoop as an investigative detective.
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  Speaker 2: pop culture expert, expert slash comedian that I am. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm bringing it to you guys all the time. But
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think she, I thought she'd be excited to
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  Speaker 2: see me being that her, she has a car wrapped
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  Speaker 2: up in her name, two of them, one with just
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  Speaker 2: her name and one with her hit song. So I
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  Speaker 2: thought she'd be excited that I talk about her incessantly. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my God. Another prediction, you guys of mine. Is
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  Speaker 2: it a full prediction? I don't even know anymore. Obviously
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be like, Heather, we all thought that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm quite shocked. Hilaria Baldwin and her husband, Alec Baldwin,
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  Speaker 2: are going to have a reality show on TLC. To me,
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  Speaker 2: this is like really bottom of the barrel. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just, I guess I'm not surprised. The reason he
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  Speaker 2: was doing these movies in which one resulted in horrific tragedy, death,
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  Speaker 2: and because they are not huge budget and he would
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  Speaker 2: have to, you know, sometimes he was the producer on them.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get into that. What's going on right now with
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  Speaker 2: the trial of the tragic death of the rust movie
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  Speaker 2: was because he's one of these guys that had six
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  Speaker 2: kids or seven, seven, all seven kids. You know, after
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  Speaker 2: he turned 50, he had seven kids with, with Hilaria. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he, He didn't even know that she grew
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  Speaker 2: up in Boston. He thought she grew up in Spain
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  Speaker 2: until we all talked about it and realized that she didn't.
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  Speaker 2: That was six kids. Then another one came. Anyway, we
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  Speaker 2: all know the story of Hilaria about how do you
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  Speaker 2: say a cucumber? And that she just decided to tell
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  Speaker 2: the world that she actually was Spanish and came from
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  Speaker 2: Spain when she grew up in Boston, went to college there.
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  Speaker 2: And I mean, there's so much to the story and
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  Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about it. But in their video
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  Speaker 2: to promote their show, they're doing that. Oh, aren't they
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  Speaker 2: a sassy, funny couple? And he's sitting there and she goes,
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  Speaker 2: stand up straight. I don't want to look taller than you.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have a reality show. Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 2: And like, she's kind of getting out of the accent.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people in the comments were like, wait,
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  Speaker 2: where's the accent? I think that she is not going
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  Speaker 2: to push that at all. But if she's been talking
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  Speaker 2: like this for 15 years, I don't know that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to see the accent go in and out. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: TLC figures enough people will watch it. Just try to
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  Speaker 2: catch her going in and out of the accent and
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  Speaker 2: continuing to cosplay that she has a whole nother identity.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but the kids are all running around
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  Speaker 2: and it is just, it's just so sad. Like on
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  Speaker 2: so many levels, When he was married to Kim Basinger,
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  Speaker 2: they had a– he was so angry when he– now,
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  Speaker 2: this was another. Kim Basinger even lived closer to my
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  Speaker 2: childhood home, which– you know, I bought the house next
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  Speaker 2: door to my parents. She lived up the street before
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  Speaker 2: she married him. Then she married Alec and she brought
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  Speaker 2: home Ireland Baldwin to her house. And that is where
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  Speaker 2: he was so angry that the paparazzi followed him home
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  Speaker 2: and he threw– and he put like whipped cream or–
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  Speaker 2: shaving cream all over the paparazzi's window of his car
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  Speaker 2: because he was parked across the street trying to get
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  Speaker 2: any image of them coming home from the hospital. He
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  Speaker 2: hated the paparazzi. He beat up the paparazzi. He hated them.
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  Speaker 2: And then, of course, there was the time that then
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  Speaker 2: they were going through a tumultuous divorce, which again, I
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  Speaker 2: saw the two of them with their daughter at like
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  Speaker 2: a play place when she was about eight and I
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  Speaker 2: was with my niece and nephew. And then they get
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  Speaker 2: a divorce and As teenagers do, I guess the daughter
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  Speaker 2: maybe didn't feel, maybe she had plans, maybe she had
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  Speaker 2: a slumber party. She didn't, even though it was her
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  Speaker 2: dad's time to see her, whatever, she, in his opinion,
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  Speaker 2: blew her off. And that's where he left the famous
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  Speaker 2: voicemail of calling his daughter a little pig who was 13.
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  Speaker 2: And Kim Basinger released it to let the world know
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  Speaker 2: he was such a dick because they were going through
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  Speaker 2: custody battles and everything. Ireland now has a good relationship
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  Speaker 2: with her stepmom, Hilaria, and a great relationship with her dad.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently she was part of his roast and made fun
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  Speaker 2: of that voicemail and everything. But obviously it's just weird
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  Speaker 2: that now you're going to put all seven kids, they're
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  Speaker 2: all being featured. We're all going to know what they
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  Speaker 2: look like on a major TV show that on a
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  Speaker 2: network that just takes people and families that are like
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  Speaker 2: desperate for a living, whether it's Kate Plus 8. What
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  Speaker 2: was that? Originally it was Kate Plus 8, but before
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  Speaker 2: that it was called whatever. Before they got divorced, then
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  Speaker 2: it was Kate Plus 8. The Little People, all of
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  Speaker 2: those shows. There's people on TLC that, you know, out-daughtered.
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  Speaker 2: I get it. I get if somebody had sextuplets before.
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  Speaker 2: Or in the case of, you know, Kate plus eight,
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  Speaker 2: you have all these kids and you're like, how am
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  Speaker 2: I going to afford it? This is a working actor. Now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he feels at this point, this way I can
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  Speaker 2: stay home with my kids. I don't really want, can't
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  Speaker 2: really do movies anymore. I'm still facing charges, which that
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  Speaker 2: whole case is, um, is disturbing that let me, the
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  Speaker 2: latest is the convicted Rust Arminer, who is the young woman, um,
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  Speaker 2: Prosecutors want her to testify at Alec Baldwin's trial. They do.
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  Speaker 2: The prosecutors want her to because it would hurt his case.
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  Speaker 2: She does not want to because she feels her testimony
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  Speaker 2: would hurt her appeal because she has been convicted of
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  Speaker 2: putting the real ammunition in the gun. But the question is,
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  Speaker 2: did he actually shoot it or not or point it?
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  Speaker 2: Because whether there's fake ammunition or real ammunition, what he
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  Speaker 2: did was also a no-no on set. So that's where
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  Speaker 2: that gets. And so then as this comes out, you know, either, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have this fun show or we talk about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Making, you know, Spanish flan dessert. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But I just think it's weird that you're going to,
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  Speaker 2: as an actor, you know, who always cried for privacy,
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  Speaker 2: is now going to expose your minor children who have
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  Speaker 2: no say in this. I'm curious if being a TV show,
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  Speaker 2: are these kids each getting a salary every time they
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  Speaker 2: appear in an episode? because this is cable, is this
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  Speaker 2: no residuals? How much are they making off of this?
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  Speaker 2: And are they protecting their kids as if they were
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  Speaker 2: on a Disney show that is SAG-AFTRA? Is this SAG-AFTRA?
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  Speaker 2: That's my other question. Because Illinois is the only state
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  Speaker 2: that is now insisting that minors who are being used
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  Speaker 2: for content in which their parents are making money on
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  Speaker 2: social media are they are to be entitled to that
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  Speaker 2: money that is earned. And a lot of these now
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  Speaker 2: adults that were raised against their will on family YouTube
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  Speaker 2: shows and things are speaking up and telling their stories
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  Speaker 2: of what it was like to see their mom. Some
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  Speaker 2: of these people weren't even, like the parents didn't even
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  Speaker 2: make money. They're just coming out and being like, my
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  Speaker 2: mom got into Facebook and talked about when I got
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  Speaker 2: my period. when I was nine years old and everybody knew.
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  Speaker 2: And then another more famous vlogger family, the girl was
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  Speaker 2: followed home by a strange man. They didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: Their parents aren't making comments now. I've been talking a
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  Speaker 2: lot about this. And so then here's, that's my other
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  Speaker 2: question of how does it work when you're just the
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  Speaker 2: children of reality stars, whether it's real housewives, those kids
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  Speaker 2: don't get a salary. How does it work for Alec Baldwin?
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  Speaker 2: I would have much rather seen Hilaria join Real Housewives
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  Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills or one of those and we not
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  Speaker 2: see a ton of the kids and we just see
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  Speaker 2: her going on a trip, talking about Alec, being an asshole,
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  Speaker 2: getting in a fight with someone. That I much, much
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  Speaker 2: would have preferred, but the money would not have been
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  Speaker 2: as great as just having your complete own show and
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  Speaker 2: exploiting all your kids. So that's my thoughts on it. Okay,
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: another sexual harassment lawsuit. This time, Kanye West is being
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  Speaker 2: sued for sexual harassment by his ex-assistant. This is a
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  Speaker 2: very weird story. So this is a former executive and
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  Speaker 2: personal assistant. Her name is Lauren Piscotti, and she's filed
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  Speaker 2: a lawsuit against him alleging sexual harassment, wrongful termination, breach
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  Speaker 2: of contract, and creating a hostile work environment. So she
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  Speaker 2: claims that he hired her in July of 21, Kanye did,
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  Speaker 2: after meeting her during a development of his fashion line.
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  Speaker 2: She alleges that he initially offered her a salary of
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  Speaker 2: $ 1 million a year to delete her OnlyFans account because
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  Speaker 2: that's when he was acting like a super Christian. She
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  Speaker 2: said she agreed to. However, he would have to pay
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  Speaker 2: her more. So she eventually got promoted and was making
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  Speaker 2: $ 4 million a year. And then she was fired in
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  Speaker 2: October of 2022 and offered a $ 3 million severance package,
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  Speaker 2: but was never paid. And that is when, shortly after,
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  Speaker 2: she decided to come with this lawsuit, which has a
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  Speaker 2: lot of receipts. And these receipts are very dirty, nasty.
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  Speaker 2: He would write her, he would text her, which almost
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  Speaker 2: sounds sort of lyrical, but very dirty. about how he
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  Speaker 2: wants to F her and he wants to see other
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  Speaker 2: men F her and all of this stuff. And she
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  Speaker 2: has those texts from him. He also sent her videos
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  Speaker 2: of him having sex with a model. He was at
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  Speaker 2: times when they were talking, he would be masturbating to her.
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  Speaker 2: This is all part of her lawsuit. She also said
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  Speaker 2: that she was helping to arrange like five sums with
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  Speaker 2: him and Bianca. And it is just really disgusting. Now
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  Speaker 2: he has responded and he is counter suing her and
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  Speaker 2: he's suing, she's saying that it's, he's saying it's extortion.
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  Speaker 2: He's saying that she, Kanye saying that she, the ex-assistant
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  Speaker 2: solicited him for sex and offered to give him sex
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  Speaker 2: on his birthday and And insisted on expensive gifts and
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  Speaker 2: all these other things. And then when he fired her,
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  Speaker 2: this is her retaliation. He also said that she must
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  Speaker 2: have gotten into his phone. And, you know, there was
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  Speaker 2: a lot of unhinged conduct. And all these things she
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  Speaker 2: wanted was demanding unreasonable sums of cash. And his team
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  Speaker 2: goes on to accuse her of sending Kanye nudes and
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  Speaker 2: soliciting him for sex for herself. all of which the
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  Speaker 2: rep claims he denied that sex. So now they're both,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, saying that these texts or whatnot have been,
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  Speaker 2: are not real. It's easy to find if they were
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  Speaker 2: or not through the cloud and through, you know, forensic technology.
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  Speaker 2: But it just is so gross. I just can't even
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  Speaker 2: imagine what the Kardashians are doing right now with this one.
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  Speaker 2: It's just embarrassing. and gross, and from what I've read
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  Speaker 2: in her lawsuit, it sounds like she has more evidence
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  Speaker 2: than he. So good luck with that one.
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  Speaker 2: The new Traders cast, you guys, is pretty juicy. Um,
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  Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval. There's a ton of traitors that come from
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  Speaker 2: Big Brother and Survivor, but because I am not as
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  Speaker 2: familiar with those shows and I don't talk about them
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  Speaker 2: that much on this show, I'm just going to focus
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  Speaker 2: on the cast that I know that you guys will
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  Speaker 2: be super into. Tom Sandoval of Vanderpump. Britney Spears' ex-husband, Sam.
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  Speaker 2: That hot piece of ass is joining the traitors. Chanel
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  Speaker 2: from Real Housewives of Dubai. Chris Shell from Selling Sunset, which,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she's great and fun to watch. Sierra, the
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  Speaker 2: beautiful girl from Summer House. Dolores from New Jersey, which
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  Speaker 2: we'll get into a lot of New Jersey scoop later
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  Speaker 2: on in the show. I have an incredible, a juicy
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  Speaker 2: interview from someone who worked with one of the housewives
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  Speaker 2: on that show. Dorenda You know, I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you something right now. You know, I'm not a traitor.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a faithful. And, you know, for you, Lawrence, to
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  Speaker 2: be a housewife and accuse me of doing something I
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  Speaker 2: did not do, Richard knows I'm not a traitor. Richard knows.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm hoping for. They allow drinking in the
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  Speaker 2: Scottish castle. So that should be fun. Dylan Efron. who
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  Speaker 2: I think is Zac Efron's brother. It sounds like they
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  Speaker 2: just said from what sounds like a podcast. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who Dylan Efron is. Gabby, who was a cute
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  Speaker 2: bachelorette from a couple years back, and Wells Adam, who
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  Speaker 2: is from Bachelor in Paradise, who married the actress from
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  Speaker 2: Modern Family. And he was on Bachelor like years ago,
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  Speaker 2: but he has managed to stay relevant and work on
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  Speaker 2: other shows. And he's pretty likable and cute. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that'll be I think it's a real fun cast. Remember,
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: there's rumors that it was Paris and Nikki. Nicole Richie
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: that obviously we know now that's not true, but I
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: think that's a great cast. And I think, oh, also
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Robin Dixon from Real Housewives of Potomac. She is not
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: returning to Potomac, so I'm glad that she got a job.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: So there you go with that. Talking about New Jersey,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: let's just get into it and then I'm going to
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: do some more topics and then we will get to
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: my interview with a former hairstylist of the Real Housewives
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: of New Jersey. So big news came a couple days ago.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: There will be no Real Housewives of New Jersey reunion.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: This is very big news. With everything that's going on,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: you guys, let's just get into what's going on. We
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: know about the reality reckoning. Recently, you know, Caroline spoke
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: again about her ongoing lawsuit suing Bravo, the production company.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: She's not suing Brandi Glanville because Brandi doesn't have any money.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Saying that, however, Brandi sexually assaulted her while they were
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: at the Ultimate Girls trip. It was not what she wanted.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It was an assault. It's traumatizing. And it's because they
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: allowed it to happen and they encouraged it and had
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: her drink. Brandy has been like, this has completely screwed
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: up my life. This isn't true. This is bullshit. And
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: what I have heard, whether it came from Brandy or
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: other speculation, and I believe this is true, is this
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: narrative and lawsuit coming from Caroline, is it so we
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: never see the ultimate girls trip? Because what I've heard
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: is that they got into talking about This situation with
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Caroline Manzo's family and her sister, Dina Manzo, who was
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: on the first two seasons of Real Housewives of New Jersey.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: And there's stuff going on with that case, and she
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: didn't want it to ever see the light of day.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: So therefore, by bringing this lawsuit, we will never see it. Meanwhile,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Camille Grammer has said, this is such a shame. I'm
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: on it. Gretchen Rossi from Real Housewives of OC is
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: on it. It was such a great season. I can't
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: believe no one's going to see it. I also have
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: not heard of any new seasons of Ultimate Girls Trip
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: being in production. Is that dead forever? What's going on?
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Going back to this being canceled. So a couple days
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: ago it was announced it was canceled. Andy addressed it
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: on his radio show saying, I think when you guys
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: see the final episode, you're going to realize that we
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: don't need a reunion. It's so explosive. It's so juicy.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: You are going to feel satisfied and full and you
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: won't care about a reunion. Now, a reunion, they pay
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: these housewives a lot of money to be on it.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: It's a big payday, which is why when they canceled
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the reunion for the Real Housewives of New York, many
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of the girls, all of the girls were pissed about
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: it because based on their salary, like if you're a Luann,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: it's a couple hundred thousand. I remember... Lisa Vanderpump saying
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that she gave up $ 250, 000 by not going on that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: reunion because she was so disgusted with the Puppygate rumors.
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: She did not want to be in that hot seat
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and was done defending herself and just refused to do it.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: So if you don't do it, it gets you in
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: a lot of trouble, but you also miss out on money,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: which is why people do it, because they make it good.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: So by canceling Real Housewives of New York, and that
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was because Ebony was saying things that Ramona had said
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: that were problematic and racist. And I think they just
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: decided we don't want to touch this with a 10
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: foot pole. The climate of this kind of discussion is
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: just too ugly and dark at this time. And they
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: didn't have one. And the women were pissed because that
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: was a big payday. By not doing it here, this
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: has been such a weird season. We know that I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: thought the cast never filmed together, but we saw in
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: the last episode that they had this lunch and Melissa
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: and Teresa, all of them were there. And Danielle, the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: new girl, was there and she was like, this is
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: so comical to me, the way you guys are talking.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: It was crazy. And the new girl, Rachel, goes after Teresa.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: And they have this explosive moment because she feels Teresa
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: has dug up her husband's ex-wife who is a drug
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: addict who has been in prison for drugs and crimes
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: and is completely estranged from her 16-year-old son who Rachel,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: as a stepmother, has actually adopted. So she feels like
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: going after and digging up this woman for content on
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: this show is very hurtful to her family and what
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: she's done as a stepmother. And Teresa is just like
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: denying it. So that was what we saw on the
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: last episode. We now, I have talked a little bit
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: about this on the show and it is hard for
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: people to grasp because they're just watching the show or
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: maybe they don't care. But when I talk about Real
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Housewives stuff, I always want to present it in a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: way that if you're not watching the show, you will
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: understand why it is juicy and why it's important. What
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: is going on here is this. It has become very clear.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: The facts are out there. Teresa, who married Louie, Louie
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: is her second husband, and Louie said on camera, I'm
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: friends with Bo Dietl. He's a top investigator, and I
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: have files on every single one of you. Margaret has
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: said that her own son, who never wanted to be
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: part of any of the show, was contact and threatened
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: at work by Louie. It was Louie's phone number or
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: someone he hired, that situation. That was in the last reunion.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: They come back and Margaret wants nothing to do with it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: There is now this woman who had a very, very
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: popular Twitter account called Melissa's Old Nose, which is very
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: mean because it's mocking Melissa, Teresa's sister-in-law, who had a
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: nose job. Who the fuck has it? I think every
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: single person on this cast has had a nose job.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: They've certainly all had some form of plastic surgery, but whatever.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: That was the name of it, obviously being a pro-Teresa
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: account because Teresa and Melissa- have always been at odds.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: You know, sometimes they get along a little bit, but
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: they've never liked each other. They've always been at odds.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: She would put out stuff that would be very, very
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: negative towards other cast members. She has now come completely
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: clean and she is doing interviews. And this girl, Melissa's
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: old nose, is saying, I was contacted by Jennifer Aiden,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: who then put me in contact with Teresa. I was
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: such a big fan. of Teresa's that Teresa was like, here,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: you got to put this information out on the internet
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: through your Twitter account. And then that way I can
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: bring it up on camera and we can get these
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: awful rumors out on camera about my castmates. Basically, that's it.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Which included finding Rachel Fuda's husband's ex-wife and getting ugly
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: things that she's going to say about him. which she
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: was not part of the show. There's no reason to
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: have that woman be brought up. Going after Margaret's business
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: in which they found a little video of some little
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: pilot reel she was doing from a long time ago
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: where she jokingly called her son a now politically incorrect term,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: which was fine 15 years ago, not okay now. They
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: were going to use that and hire a PR firm
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And in that, they were asking this Melissa Olnos person
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to write every single one of the stores that her
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: products are in to say, I have a handicapped child.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I will no longer shop at Walmart, shop at Kohl's, wherever.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: So basically, the goal was to take down Margaret's business
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: that she has built for 20 years. That's out there.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: That is what this person is claiming. That is what
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: she's alleging. And she's showing all these receipts on Twitter.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: The other thing that's so bizarre is that Louis was
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: engaged to a couple people before Teresa. He had a wife,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: had two kids that had like two broken engagements, then
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: met Teresa. One of those broken engagements is this woman
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: named Vanessa. And Vanessa is a therapist who now specializes
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: in women breaking from narcissistic abuse partners. And she has...
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: come across, she has a little media fame in that
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: she ran a marathon in the wedding dress she was
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: going to wear to marry Louis. But she doesn't say it,
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: but she's like, articles were written about it. She came
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: up with this lawsuit that when I heard about it,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I thought it was crazy, where she said, Louis has
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: hired Bo Deedle to hire actresses to come in and
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: act like clients of mine And ask questions about Louie
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: to me to get information about me. And therefore, I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: want a restraining order against Louie. He, like, countered that
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and said, no, I need a restraining order against you.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And I thought the whole thing seemed thirsty and weird,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know who to believe. According to this
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: now Melissa's old nose, she is saying, no, this is
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: all true. They told me they, they told me about this.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I have receipts about it. All of this. It's so
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: ugly and dark because it's really going, it's going after
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: his ex fiance's business. It's going after Margaret's business. If
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: in fact, this is all true. And she, this Melissa
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: old nose lady is saying the whole, the thing that
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: really drove Teresa to do this is if anyone is
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: said anything poorly about her husband, Louis. And people thinking
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: he's shady and because Margaret was vocal about it and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: because people were discussing it. So the big thing that
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: we're going to see is that Margaret actually does have
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: contact with Vanessa. And Therese is going to be like, look, see,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: they're in cahoots against me. And Margaret said, yeah, I
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: talked to her. Like we talked to people that know people.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: This is New Jersey. Like it's not that weird to
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: talk to someone's husband's ex-girlfriend, like whatever. So that is,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: it's a big mess and watching it, it is not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the juiciest season up until now. Not having a reunion,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I think is a smart move by Bravo. I think
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: this is going to make people want to watch the
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: next few episodes because they weren't, it went down way
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: in ratings. And Also, they're going to save money on
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: not having the reunion. You know, the way this works
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: is this isn't like they're selling ads like the Super
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Bowl and all of a sudden NBC is going to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: cancel the Super Bowl and you're like, what? You'd miss
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: out on so much ad money. That's not the way
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Bravo and Cable and Peacock works. So no one's going
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: to stop watching Bravo or give up their Peacock subscription
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: because there isn't a three-part New Jersey reunion. I personally
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: think that this has become like married to the mob.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: And I think this is scary. I think with all
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: the legal stuff, I think the producers are scared because
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I think there's stuff that in the reunion would come
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: out that the producers knew about all this stuff going
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes to have juicy storylines, even though
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: it's at the expense of people's families and children and businesses.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: And I think they just don't want any part of it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: It's too risky and it's legally everything. It's just too
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: dark and ugly. And I have no idea what's going
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: to happen. I really don't even, I can't predict if
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: everyone would come back, if no one's going to come back,
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: if they're going to just scrap New Jersey for two
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: years or something like they did with, um, What's the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: one that just came back with like Miami, like just
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: put it away for a while. Let it breathe. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: think I could see that happening because the stuff with
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Therese and Louis is so dark and kind of scary.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And so it's crazy. And then to add to the
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: next scary, interesting thing. So Dina Manzo, who is Caroline
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Manzo from early seasons, and Caroline, who I just said,
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: is the one who's suing Bravo now because she finally
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: came back. She wasn't doing any Real Housewives stuff for years.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: She finally came back, went on the Ultimate Girls trip,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and alleged that Brandy grabbed her boobs and genitals. So
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: her sister, they were very close. I interviewed Dina a
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: few years ago. It was one of my best interviews.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: It's in the archives. There was a big age difference
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: between Dina and Caroline. There was like 10 kids in
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: the family, and they were very close. And Dina had
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: a daughter with someone else, and then she was single
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: and living with Caroline and helping with Caroline's kids. And
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Caroline's husband, his brother Tommy, who may have been married
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: before or not, started to show interest in Dina, and
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: they fell in love. So Dina and Caroline are real sisters,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: and then they ended up both being married to real brothers.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: And those two brothers, Albie and Tommy, they own the Brownstone,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: which all these events are at that were a big
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: part of the thing, and now Caroline's boys both still
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: work there. So Dina and Tommy were actually on an
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: episode of my big fat wedding or something on VH1
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: where they had this big wedding and yeah, he cheats
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: a lot, but I'm still going to marry him. That
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: was on there. So anyway, they end up doing the
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: show and we never see Tommy in the little bit
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: that they, that he was on. We like never see him.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: They end up separating and getting divorced. And she is,
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: falls in love with this guy named David Canton. He
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: ends up getting attacked in 2015 and, in like a
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: strip mall parking lot with like some type of weapon.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: The police and prosecutors find out that Tommy Manzo, her
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: soon-to-be ex-husband, they believed hired someone to do this act
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and hurt her boyfriend. And in payment for doing that,
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: he had a big, beautiful wedding at the Brownstones. Tommy's like,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: this isn't true. I have nothing to do with it.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Then two years later in 2017, Dina and her fiance,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: David Canton, go back to their home in New Jersey.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: At this point, they're living in California after the 2015 attack.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: They go to go and go to Teresa's daughter's, I believe,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: maybe a First Holy Communion because she's the godmother. They
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: come home that night. Two men are there. They physically
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: attack both of them and facial injuries to both of them.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: And I believe that's when Dina then had to get
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: a nose job. She was beautiful before. She's beautiful now.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: But she was physically attacked. Her engagement ring was stolen.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: And they the cops look at cameras and everything and
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: they figure out who did it. Both of those attacks,
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: they believe Tommy Manzo was behind, that he racketeered it,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: meaning like a mafia thing where he was like the
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: top guy. He made these people do it, but it
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: was his doing. He says, no, no, no, I didn't
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: do it. He gets arrested and to be put out
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: on bail. He has character letters written about him. Caroline
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: writes a letter in defense of her brother-in-law, former husband
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: of her real sister that she's estranged from, saying he's
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: a good guy, he's a hardworking man, you know, whatever.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: And people are pretty disgusted. Also, Dolores of Real Housewives
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: of New Jersey wrote a letter in defense of or
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: supporting Tommy Manzo's character. He would never do this. He's
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: an okay guy. He should be out on bail. Well,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: just yesterday, he was convicted. Now, this is where I'm
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: confused and I looked everywhere and I couldn't find anything
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: on it. He was charged with being behind both the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: 2015 account in the parking lot and also the 2017
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: account in which Dina was also a physical victim. However,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: according to what I've read, he was only convicted yesterday
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: and of being involved with the 2015 account. The guy
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: that actually did it has already been sentenced doing 30 months.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: They found paperwork that proved that the guy had this
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: big lavish wedding at the Brownstone and didn't pay for it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: That guy already did a plea deal, is doing his time.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He could be looking up to, I heard, 26 to
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: 40 years. I still don't know what happened with the 2017,
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: if that is like, got thrown out, or if that
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: is another trial. But that just went down yesterday. So
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: in light of this ugliness, tied to Caroline Manzo, tied
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: to the reality reckoning, the lawsuit, Andy Cohen getting heat,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: all the ugliness of New Jersey, the reunion, legal stuff.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is why there's no reunion, people. That
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is why. And I don't know... what this means for
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: the state of New Jersey as far as coming back
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: or not. So I hope you followed that. I hope
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: you enjoyed the juiciness in which I told it. Finale
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: of the Valley. Wow, you guys, this was Jax and Brittany.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: They have the, they open up the Jax bar. They
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: seem to kind of be getting along during that episode. They,
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: that's their finale. And then they say, and then six
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: months later or something, three months later, they pick up
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: the cameras again. And now we're in March. And that
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is when they announce her separation, that she has moved out, Brittany,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: and went to an Airbnb with their son, Cruz. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: they pick up the cameras to have him have some
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: conversations with some of the other cast members. And we
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: see Brittany and Jax together. And this was juicy. She
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: comes back. And they're talking. And in a scene with
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: one of the other cast members, one of the guys,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: he's like, I need therapy. I have a problem with depression.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: And I take it out on Brittany. And I made
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: an appointment with a therapist. So then she comes back
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: into the house with the cameraman there. And he said,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I made an appointment for a therapist. Like, we can
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: work this out. And she goes, when did you make
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: the appointment? He goes, yesterday. And she's like, oh, when
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you got the call that cameras were coming back here
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: is when you finally made a call to have a
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: therapy appointment. That's when you did it. When you knew
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the cameras are going to be here so that you
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: could put that out there. Not when I left. She
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: had already moved out. Not when I left. Not when
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: you were trying to get me back. Now for the cameras.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: And He's just, you know, trying to save himself in this.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: She is like, you took away my safe space. You
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: made it that I had to leave because you yell
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: at me and you rage text me and you treat
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: me poorly. And in previous scenes, he's saying she'll never leave.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: She'll never leave. We don't believe in divorce. She'll never leave. He,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I think he truly believed she would never leave and
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: he didn't change and he didn't treat her with respect
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: and he really didn't think she would. I really thought
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: when I heard that she left, I thought that was smart.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: I thought that would be a wake-up call for him.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: I now believe I really don't think they're going to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: be able to get back together, and I think that
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: is okay. I think that they will be better off
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: as co-parents, and we can see it on the show.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: She has 1.7 million Instagram followers. She gets a lot
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: of endorsements and brand deals for you know, fashion and
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: fitness and wellness and stuff with kids. So she's like,
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I'm good. Like, I will be fine without you. And
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: he then said, and then they go back to the
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: confession and she goes, I don't even know that you'll go.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: He never went to the therapy appointment. He said, well,
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: it was all the way in Malibu and I just
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like going. And she's like, my point has
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: been made. So I don't know where they are in filing.
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: The other couple did file and they're getting divorced. They
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: are not having a reunion, but I heard they picked
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: up cameras right now. Like they're starting to film again,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: which I think is really wise. Um, so people are,
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: are feeling good about Brittany standing up for herself. I
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: think it's something good for people to see. I think
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: them sharing all this will maybe help couples or maybe
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: give certain people a wake up call about how not
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: to treat their spouse. Um, But then he wrote, I
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: don't have it, but he did a tweet in the
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: middle of the night at 3.41, Jax did, saying, why
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: don't you ask who Britney's been screwing or having sex
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: with for the last four months? That was at 3.30
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: in the morning. Of course, Sluice caught it. He has
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: since removed it. So who knows if it's true or
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: if he was spinning after reading all the negative comments
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: about him and he came up with something, which is
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: true or not. you know, we thought that the breakup
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: might have been manufactured to get us interested in the
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Valley because no one was interested in the Valley before
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it started. And when we heard that they were broken up,
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: that they were living separately, we watched it, but many
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: of us thought it was a publicity stunt because just
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: like Jax, we never thought Brittany would leave. We never
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: thought she would. The girl put up with horrible behavior
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: before they were married, him cheating, her knowing that he
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: was cheating. She forgave him. And we just thought, She's
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: that country muffin who will just put up with it,
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: and she's not. And I think that is kind of
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: a good thing to see, and I wish them the
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: best that they can just be happier not being with
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: each other. But I don't have a lot of hope
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: for them getting back together. Elon Musk has, you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: it's an Elon Musk start link hookup, leaves a remote
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: tribe addicted to porn. So finally this tribe... got to
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: have access to the internet. And now they're saying all
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: these guys are like addicted to porn. They are not
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: being social. They're taking on like the white man way
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: of being like, I don't know, into video games. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. It's kind of a funny article. I hope
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: everybody's okay. Also, he's going to allow porn. X officially
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: greenlights porn on platforms with a few caveats. which is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: you will– it will be like a special subscription type
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of thing that you have to be over 18, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you will be able to– they're going to be– so
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see where X will be in the
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: next year or two because I think it is going
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: to be– I felt like it had a dip, and
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: now I think more and more eyes will be on it. Oh,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: here's the Jax tweet. It said, you may want to
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: ask Brittany who she's been sleeping with for the past
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: four months, and that was sent– Oh, this one says 514.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: You know what? I wonder if this is true. I
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: wonder if he really did post it because it's not
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: on his page. The other one I saw showed 314,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: but maybe that would be based on where you're looking
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: at it, like if you're an East Coast or a
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: West Coast person. I don't know. But it's gone now,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: so either mention it or not. For our Vanderpump people,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a little follow-up. the they have still Ariana and Tom
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: said have also still not settled on the house situation
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: he offered her six hundred thousand saying that that would
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: bring the house up to being worth 3.1 million which
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: is more than face value she has said no I
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: guess they are doing mediation if they can't settle in
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: mediation then it will go to trial but not till
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: 2026 so I don't, I don't know what's going on
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: with that, but it's still, they're still not settling. Okay.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Also our favorite Joe, she did a live and she
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: put a sign saying no Schwartz zone. It's like, it's
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: over girl. Like we get it. Schwartz is not trying
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to call you anymore. But yeah, she's become a, If
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: you've never seen that movie, it's very juicy. It's from
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: like 30 years ago. But like I said on my
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: last episode, she found this hairdresser that's like one degree
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: away from her because it was a Kristen Doty friend.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: And basically, I believe, has copied everything about her. And
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: it's on the last episode. Okay. This is sad, but
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: apparently Brad Pitt is very sad that Shiloh, his daughter... Now,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: all the kids had Jolie Pitt as their last name.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: And.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Sahara, when she went to college, removed Pitt from it
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: when she like joined her sorority. So she's just Sahara Jolie. Maddox,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think he ever had Pitt because she had
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: adopted Maddox before she met Brad. Pax, I don't know
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: where his name is. Vivian, so Shiloh now is Shiloh Jolie.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: She has removed Pitt from her name. Vivian, who is
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: one of the twins, they have boy-girl twins together. Vivian
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: is a co-producer on some play with her mom. And
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: in that, it just says Vivian Jolie. And she's like
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: maybe she's like 16. And I think Shiloh is like 19.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: And I don't know what's up with the boy. But
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: so removing Pitt is it's a real F you to
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: the dad. According to page six, J-Lo and Leah Remini
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: used to be besties. And, you know, they did movies together.
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: They did talk shows together. Everyone loved their banter. When
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: she married Ben J. Lo, Leah Remini was not there.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: People thought they had a rift in their friendship. People
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: wondered if Leah approved of this wedding. Other accounts were
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: her daughter was going to college and that was the
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: move-in weekend, which I can completely relate to not wanting
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: to move. I would not miss my only child or
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: any child's move-in weekend, even if it was J-Lo's wedding.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: So even if J-Lo does a vow renewal... And it
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: is the weekend that I'm moving brand. I'm going to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: just say it right now. And I somehow become front.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: I become friendly with them, even though I've talked a
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: lot about them and I get an invitation and it's
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: JLo vow renewal with Ben Affleck. And it's the weekend
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: that Brandon moves into Oregon. I'm going to tell you
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: right now, I am not going JLo. Okay. So I
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: didn't really believe that they had a riff, but now
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: according to page six, they did have a riff. And
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: it's because Leah did not think it was wise that
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: she marry and get back together with Ben, or at
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: least maybe not marry him. And now that they are
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: going through struggles, allegedly she has contacted her as a
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: friend and is like, you know what? I'm here for you, J-Lo.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Let's talk. So let's see what happens with that. Jay Shetty. Okay.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I talked about Jay Shetty, this guru guy. I had
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: the author here. that wrote the article that exposed that
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: he was a grifter full of shit. Now, he is
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: now a new relationship advisor for Match. Yes, according to this,
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that was sent to me, date differently with Match and
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Jay Shetty. So now he is going to give you
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: relationship advice and how to find someone on Match. So
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: it's another money grab for him. Probably because of this article,
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: he is no longer getting as many people buying into
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: his MLM coaching scheme or going to see him speak.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: So match jumped on that. They probably aren't juicy scoopers.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Didn't know before they did the deal. Britney Spears was
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: in Vegas and allegedly she was hanging out with her
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: ex-fiance Jason Trawick, which everyone always thought he was a nice,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: good guy. Remember I told you I hung out with
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: him one night and he was about to spill the
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: tea about the relationship and then he realized he better not.
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: So who knows what's going on there. Cher is dating, um,
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Alexander Edwards, he goes by A.E., and she defended him.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: There was a big fight that he was supposedly started
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: the fight between Travis Scott and Tyga, which is interesting
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: because Travis Scott and Tyga both dated Kylie Jenner. And A.I.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: also dated Amber Rose, who dated Kanye West. And then Cher,
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: 80-year-old Cher, is there. And she's like, this isn't true. God.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: You know, I was watching Cher on E, the movie
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: called Burlesque. And I mean, she really did look great.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: But I was like, her voice is so weird. I'm like,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: what if she was like a Hilaria Baldwin? And when
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: no one's around, she's just like, hey, AI. What if
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: she just had an 80-year-old's voice and is like, Dear AI,
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: why did you start a fight with so many people?
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: And then when people are around, she just like clicks
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: back into like her Cher impression, even though she's Cher.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And she's like, God, we're at Cairns and do you
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: believe in love after love? I know I'm not doing
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: it that well. It's been a really long time and
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: I just slipped into a Jen Aniston. But I just,
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: her voice is so unique. It just, it makes me
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: wonder if that's really her voice. Okay, you guys, I
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: really liked this interview I did. If you're interested how
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes works, with Bravo, hair, makeup, glam. Sometimes
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: they take advantage of these hair people, and there's been
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: discussions about this on New Jersey, and I got the
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: inside scoop. So let's go with this interview. Hello, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: welcome to Juicy Scoop. I have a juicy interview coming
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: your way from New Jersey, because there's so much going
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: on there. I have Karen DeSimone. She is a hairdresser, stylist,
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: done it all, clear Jersey girl. How are you? Thank
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you for joining me. Hi, Heather.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me on. How are
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you guys?
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: Great. So you reached out to me and then we
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: talked a little bit on the phone and Jersey has
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: been so crazy this season with the split cast and
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: the storylines being put out or the storylines almost being created,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: digging up dirt, having bloggers and people big on Twitter
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: or whatever put out Rumors that then can be said
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: on camera, which then can be part of a storyline
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: about the other cast members. And I wanted to talk
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: to you because you are a hairstylist and you worked
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: with one of the newer cast members, Danielle. And there's
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a lot of drama going on with Danielle that we
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: saw in a previous episode where they bring this girl
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Lena out who said, you know, I did her, she
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: did her hair for free or her makeup.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's not, she's not her hairstylist. She actually just
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: helped her and like opened her salon, touched up her
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: extensions for her. And then she had gotten an invite
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: to Danielle's charity event. And then she went and, you know,
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: she showed her support. And then Danielle was like, Get
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: her out. She was kicking everybody out. Not just her.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I also went to that charity event and she just
• 52:42
  Speaker 3: wanted this VIP with all the housewives and everybody else
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: like kind of watching like the center of the ring.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you go to this event. People pay to
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: go to this event. I just want to get an idea.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: So, yes, people pay to go to this charity event.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: You're holding a charity event.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: And for extra money or for special people, there's a
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: VIP section. There's a VIP. Okay.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so she had mentioned to me too, oh, we're
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: going to go on the VIP, go to the VIP,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: and then you get there and it's like, it's not
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: really VIP. She wanted the housewives in the center. Yeah,
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: and the glam and everybody, we're all working together. We're
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: all Bravo. We're working together. We all feel, you know,
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: we're friends. Even some of the other cast, they brought
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: their friends there and she was like, wanted them out.
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: So everybody had a bad taste in their mouth about that.
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, Lena, naturally she went there to support her.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's really, I mean, even me myself, I
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: was like, you know what? Back to like, if we're
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: going to get into a little bit backstory about me
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: and her.
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: Let's get into your story of how, how you met
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: her and the services that you provided and why you
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: are not too pleased today.
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: Honestly, we met by, I say by, it was like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: you know, The stars and the moon. We met in
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: the gym. I happened to talk to her. And then
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: the next day I went into a salon and there
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: she was the first person to come sit in my chair.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, randomly, you're the girl from the gym.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: So whatever we linked up, I said, listen, she's like,
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: I have something in the works.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like, that's great.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: I was like, I'm, I'm interested. She's like, okay. So
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: we said that we were going to start working together.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Now remember, Danielle just started. Where you would do her hair.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the days that she has a film crew.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: Yes, because how Bravo works is like when you when
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: you're filming for the show, they're paying out of pocket
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: the talent. So she had hair and makeup for hair
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: and makeup.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: So again, she was a newbie. She wasn't, you know,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: in the money. So we had made a great deal.
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: So we thought, you know, we're like, Oh, We'll work together.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: I'll do your hair and you promote me. I was
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: also new to social media, not new to hair, but
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: new to social media, wanted to grow on all that.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: So we have like a really great thing going. I mean,
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: she's getting her hair two, three times a week. It's
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: very expensive to do.
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: So I figured- And you're doing it free or basically
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: free in the hopes that when she- Not in the hopes,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: but in the agreement. That was the thing.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: In the agreement was we're a team. We're going to
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: grow together. You don't have the money for hair and
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I want the promotion. Let's work together and we'll grow together. Honestly,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: like I loved her too. Like we really vibed. Everything
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: was really great. And I did more than just for
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: the show. I did her daughter's hair, you know, did
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: her Christmas cards, did all these things that were off
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: the show as well in hopes that I'm growing with
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: her as a team.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: So when you would do those things like the Christmas cards,
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: you know, and it hasn't aired yet on the show,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: would she tag you then? Or was she like, I'm
• 55:50
  Speaker 2: going to tag you once the show airs?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: So that's how the show works. And that's the tricky part.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: When you're, when they're filming and they're doing all that,
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: none of those books that I do could be aired
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: till the show is aired. So it's like almost an
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: IOU promotion on top of it.
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, in good faith.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: When the show, like when the show airs, I will
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: post something like, you got to watch the birthday party tonight.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: And then a photo of her looking gorgeous. And then
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: she would be like, thanks to Karen. Yeah, for my
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: great like hair. I love a high pony. Thank you
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: to Jenny Jones for my makeup, whatever, or makeup tag.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. So the first season, we did really well
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: with this. When the show was aired, we would put
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: out our work, again, get the promotion. She didn't have
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: too much following then. But again, we were building together
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: because if it was as far as following, she didn't
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: have much. But again, we're both in hopes of this
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: growing relationship.
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: So then between season, sorry, go ahead.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: So again, the first season, it really did go pretty smooth.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I did the work. Then we posted when the season
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: aired and everything was good. We were good. Everything was good.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: So then in between season one and two is Vegas BravoCon, correct?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Correct. Correct.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: So you guys hadn't started filming New Jersey yet or
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: had you started filming?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: When BravoCon came, yes, we actually started filming the second
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: season at that point.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And so she says to you, I want you to
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: come to BravoCon to help me for several days when
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: I have to make all these appearances. And tell me
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: about that experience because we heard some rumblings about.
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: The mistreatment on her end.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: So what do you have to say about that?
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say mistreatment because... I don't think
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: at the time that maybe, although now looking back, you know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: you're like, oh, maybe she was doing it purposely and
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: didn't care. But I don't think she was trying to
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: do it with care. I think she was trying to
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: budget within herself. Again, remember, she's a newbie. Everything with
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: her is a budget. So she was looking for a hotel.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: She put us in. It was not on the strip.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Everybody was on the strip. It wasn't in the best
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: of neighborhoods. It really was... It was a crappy motel.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: And at the time she did recognize that it was,
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: but even my husband, he was like, Oh, let me
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: get you out of there. Move me, whatever. And I'm like,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: you know what? That's not going to look right. You know,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: now I'm moving myself. Like, let's just leave it be.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: But then of course the cast realized that we were
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: in this hotel.
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: And that you, you and the makeup.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: Artist, me and the makeup artist. Correct.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: And you guys were only doing her.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: We were only doing her.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: We were Ubering.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: It was taking us like 30 minutes to get to them.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: We were getting up extra early just for Uber. Then
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: coming back was a nightmare. At some point, like we
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: were waiting hours for cabs. One time, even one of
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: the cast members, she saw us and she's like, get
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: in because we like, look like we were always stranded
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: and lost. You know, it was a high traffic season
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: in Vegas.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: So when that cast member said, get in, is that
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: when they started to kind of realize like, What the
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: fuck is going on?
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: They kind of knew before, I believe. And that's why
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: they were like, get in because we're standing around now
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: after working all day at the event. And we're standing
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: around looking for cabs, trying to hail them. Again, very
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: high traffic time in Vegas.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, I was, I mean, I was there and
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: anybody that went, no, it was a nightmare. It was
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: a nightmare to get around. So like close enough to
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: walk really to the convention.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Exactly. Even that 30 minutes, which whatever, no traffic, not terrible, 20,
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: 30 minutes, but with traffic, I mean, it took us
• 59:31
  Speaker 3: an hour every day just to get back to the hotel.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: And what were you paid for that weekend?
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: Um, we, I was paid by from Bravo. So we
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: were afraid I was paid the, I was paid the
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: rate every day. Okay. Um, and again, she did pick
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: up the Uber. She didn't like flatly leave us in
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: that sense, but she did know that the hotel was
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: really not up to par. And once it was pretty far,
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: like I said, she.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: She, so let me just get this straight for the people. Like,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: and I don't know either. So if I was a
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: housewife on Bravo and I was going to BravoCon and
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: they're like, hey, we provide this budget for hair and makeup. Now,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: if I wanted to really stay within that budget, I
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: would have to forgo my regular people and probably find
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: someone who lived in Vegas that could do it.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Okay. So she had to.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Add to it. Exactly. Like that's where it comes in.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: She was getting an allowance from them. She was paying
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: the allowance. Things were coming out of her pocket, but
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: at the same sense, the makeup girl is a whole
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: nother story. I don't really know about her pay. That's
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 3: a whole nother thing. But for me and my pay,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: she did give me the daily rate. And I mean,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: people were complaining. They're like, you know, she left BravoCon
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: and flew to Disney. So again, She's spending, like you said,
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: if you don't have the money and budget it, then
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: why are you living in this? And that's how I
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: feel throughout our whole relationship.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: We have this thing that you shouldn't.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Have got your hair done three times a week. I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: would love to get my makeup and hair done three
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 3: times a week. Would you not?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I do. I mean, that's why I do do
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: my own hair and makeup because I do have to do,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I don't have lashes on today, but like I do
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: have to do it and I'm grateful that I could
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: do it. But on the occasion that I've gotten it done,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: like I went to a wedding in Vegas, someone reached
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: out to me and was like, I'll do your hair
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: and makeup. And we worked out a price that was
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: less than he would charge a stranger, but then I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: posted all about it and he lived locally. And so like,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: as someone who goes and performs and goes to different cities,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I most of the time do it myself, but I
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: understand some women can't, but I, what I want to say,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: and then I want to get into more of it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: is like, there needs to be more of, I think
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: in education and, and decorum with these, with these Bravo personalities,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: because this isn't 15 years ago and you do want
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: to have professional hair and makeup for a lot of
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: it because everybody else does. And this isn't real house.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to see 2008, like, but if you,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: if they're only paying you whatever, you know, 50,000 for
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: the season, you can't be spending, you know, five, $ 600
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: for glam time, which is the going rate for most times.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Cause it takes a couple hours and people have to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: come and, use their eyelashes and everything. But so, but
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: that's why it is great. If you can say, I'm
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: going to use my, I'm going to get people to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: know who you are, be like, Hey, you got a
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: wedding in Jersey. You got to get my girl, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: So that's what you were thinking. It was really a
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: fair exchange and it was really great. And I think
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: in the end she was like foolish and.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: So what happened? So BravoCon happens. And some people get
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: wind of that. And you did what you're kind of
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: doing with me. You did share with some outlets.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, I went on to share with everybody that she
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: wasn't abusing me. It wasn't an abuse case. She's really good. Again,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: I work for Danielle. I love her. And that's the thing.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: People now, they think like, oh, I'm coming out and
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to attack her character. So I'm not doing that.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: First of all, I'm doing this for promotion because what's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: fair is fair. That was the deal. He's filming all
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: season two. Everything's coming out now. I don't really think
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: it's fair that my work is not being promoted at all.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: So now why did she suddenly cut you out and
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: is not tagging you now?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: Honestly, it became a ridiculous thing. In December, we went to,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: and I'm finally going to tell the story because everybody's like,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: why did this happen? And I'm like, in December, we
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: had an industry party. One of the other hairstylists had
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: thrown an industry party. All the glam and hair on
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: the internet. We all go to that party. And the
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: girl who, the woman who threw it was Jennifer Aiden's hairstylist.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Jennifer Aiden's hairstylist throws this event. I go, I'm going
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: to support, and in walks Jen. Now, naturally, I know Jen.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: We've been working together for two years. Jen Aiden comes in.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: When Jennifer Aiden comes in, I said to Jen, I
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: didn't even know it was her to be honestly honest.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: She lost a lot of weight since the last time
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: I seen her. We didn't see each other in BravoCon.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: Casts were split. I hadn't seen her in a while.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: She looked at me and she said, hi. And I'm like,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: oh my God, Jen, hi, how are you? That was it. Danielle,
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: the next day, I'm like, no, Jen had said to me,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: I hope you didn't get like in trouble for saying
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: hello to me. And I'm like, what does that mean?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I don't understand what that means.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: She's like, oh, nothing.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: And we went about the night. I really, after I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: was like, you know, let me talk to Danielle. And
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: I called Danielle the next day. And I'm like, Dan,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, guess who I saw at the
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: industry party? And she's like, who? I'm like, Jennifer Aiden.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: And she was like, did you tell her to go
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: F herself? And I was like, no, I was like, well, I'm,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: you know, I was like, no, I thought she was joking.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: She's like, you should have told it about F herself.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, whoa, I'm like, you know, no, I'm
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: staying neutral. Well, you shouldn't stay neutral.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: What is everybody afraid of this girl? Like, I don't understand. She,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 3: my people, why are they mingling with her? And I'm like,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: I'm not mingling. We were at a, Public event. I
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: said hello to her. And that was like the start
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: of it. She was really mad, wanting me to tell
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: her to go F herself. And after that, she felt
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: I was being disloyal.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: So you went down for Aiden. Let me just ask
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: a quick. You did not take a photo and Jennifer
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Aiden didn't post. Yes.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: Well, we didn't. We had taken a photo, not privately
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: or nothing like that. There was a photo that I
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: was in with the hair girl and Jen. But also
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: at the time, Jen was doing like regular filming while
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: everybody was dancing. She was tagging me. Now, mind you,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: at that time, my page had gotten hacked. on Instagram.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: So I could have totally used ding. I could have
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: totally used Jen's tag. I'm like, all right, get back in.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You said your paycheck got
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: cut in half.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah. My, no, my Instagram page was hacked. At that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: point I had, I had like zero followers again. So
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: now I'm like starting back from the beginning and Jen's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: tagging me and I'm like, Oh, that would be great.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: But then I'm like, you know what? Danielle, I don't know.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: Let me talk with Danielle. I don't want to repost anything.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: So I didn't repost anything that Jen was putting up.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: I never put up the picture because I'm like, I
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: don't know, you know, like, let me talk to Danielle first.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: And like, why I was saying that is because I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: really could have used it. Your Instagram page is down.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, you want like Jen, Jen would be perfect
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: to help you. So anyway, so I didn't repost anything.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't put anything up of it, which really hindsight,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: why would I do that? I mean, this is all
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: a business, isn't it? Why is it being disloyal to,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: to when they make up next season, where is that? Like,
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: and then what I told the woman to go at herself.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you, I think you were
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: a casualty in this game that people play and it
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: happens on housewife shows, but it happens in real life too,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: because everyone's on social media. And I've had it happen
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: to me where I have a friend that's at an
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: event with people that I am no longer associating with.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: And those people ran, run up to my friend and
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: like attack them and do a selfie. And they post
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: it knowing that the few fans that are following this,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: that care will be like, wow, Heather lost another friend.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: And so I can relate to, I do think Jen
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: Aiden's intention of going up to you and talking to
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: you was not because she was dying to be your friend.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: It was, Ooh, I know there's, there could be something
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: between the two of them. I heard the Bravo con story.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I know there's that Danielle has treated glam and people
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: like that. Not great. Cause she knew the Lena story.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: So I think Danielle was like, you know, probably very
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: heightened emotions and, In thinking like, who the fuck on
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: this cast is my friend?
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: And you know what? I do get that. And like
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: I said, even if Jen was trying to bust her
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: chops a little and get her going, seeing Yael falling
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: for it is the saddest story. Because you don't throw
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: somebody that two years is running around for you, running
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: around for your family. Aunt Goyle, you're going to allow
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: them to make you lose your team? You can't always
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: get what I was giving her. And I, and like,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: it's not the repayment that should have been given to me.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: And after that, we talked, I even messaged her after the,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: we hung up on the phone call. I'm like, listen, Danielle,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: I really love you. I hope you understand why I
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 3: said hello to her. And she's like, oh, I get it.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: And then after that, she never used me again. But
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: had passed. She told me the first time she said, oh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: we're going to do a confessional. I'm using somebody else.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: It's a business decision. Now I'm like, business decision? I
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: just made a business decision for you for two years,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: pushing brides every appointment around so that when you need me,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: I'm free. My bank account was going like this in
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: the hopes of the dreams that was being sold. I said, oh,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: this is going to pay off. Fighting with my husband
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: to the point of almost divorce because he's.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Like, where's the money?
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: All your money's going down. What is this show bringing you?
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: What are you doing with these wives? Like, oh, it's
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: an investment, honey. It's an investment. Watch and see, watch
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 3: and see. Well, in that crash, forget it. He was
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: even more wild than me. He's like, you know, you're
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: pushing your kids around, planning your vacations. I mean, it's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: a big deal. It was a big deal in our house.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: I think it's a huge deal. And so then it was,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: the deal was really sealed that she didn't keep her
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: end of the bargain when her look started, when we
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: started to see the season. And I think there's like five,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: six episodes out. And there are some of the looks
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: that you did and she is not saying my hair
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: is different.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: Well, that's because so now later on, fast forward, she
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: winded up blocking me. She went on and was doing
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: some kind of thing and my husband was in the
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: background commenting. I had no clue. I was out, whatever.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 3: I winded up finding out later on. So she blocked
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: me because he was like coming at her.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: So she was like doing a live interview?
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: She was doing a live and I think he was
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: typing in the live. I really don't know. I wasn't
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: even a part of it.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: And what was he saying?
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know. He was saying, you put my wife
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: in a cheap motel. This is the repayment you give it.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: She's running around. Like he was really upset. He was
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 3: upset for me too.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 5: You know?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 3: And then when I came home, I was fighting with him. Like,
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: why would you do that? Because I don't really handle
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: things the way he does. He's like, too bad. She
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: has no right to treat you this way. Her husband
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: winded up calling my husband. And he's like, her husband's like, oh,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: we made a business decision. My husband was like, well,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: I'm making a business decision to tell your wife to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: go after herself. You know, like that's what I'm making
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: a family decision, he said. And I'm like, all right, again,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: not the way I handle things, but I understand. I mean, remember,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: this is really two years of us even fighting. It's
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: a big deal.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: I can relate to fighting with your spouse about your
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: own business and trying to explain like, you know, being
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: a comedian, sometimes my husband would be like, why are
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: you doing this gig? And I'm like, because I don't care.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Like my first standup special, he was like, you're never
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: going to make any money off this deal. And we
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: sold it to Showtime. And I'm like, I don't care.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: It's a standup special. Like people don't get when you're
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: an artist, which you are. And when, when it's so
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: much word of mouth and just notoriety, especially in the,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: now when you're, when you're, you know, social media is
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: such a big part of it and be on a
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: reality show and these great looks that people want to,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: you know, copy that they see on TV. And wait,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: can you shut the door? Oh, that's outside. Nevermind. Sorry.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a vacuum inside. I thought there
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: was a vacuum inside.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Sorry. So anyway, I can relate to, you know, having
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: those conversations. those arguments with you. Yeah.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Cause he's looking, yeah, he's looking financially. Yeah. The money's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: going down and, but I'm feeling, Oh, I'm getting notoriety.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting my publicity. Like this is what it's about.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Like this is.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: The payoff and the steps to get where I want
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: to go.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was really interesting talking to you.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I want you to come on
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: because it's kind of the side of the show that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: viewers hear and, and, you know, see a little bit
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: of it. They don't really understand. They don't really understand.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: how payment works and how people can afford this. And
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: back in the day, I remember, you know, like, um,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: one of my friends, Jenny Pulo, she didn't have hair
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: and makeup for many years. And then by like season five,
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: she was like, either she asked for it at her
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: contract or she just paid for it. Cause she was like,
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: I can't handle looking at myself like anymore. And, um,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: so sorry, we have a gardener outside. It's like, okay. Um, anyway, um,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: So I can relate to wanting that. Well, I mean,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: I think the lesson that can come from this for
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  Speaker 2: people in your industry.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's why I'm doing this most importantly is for
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: people to recognize what happened to me. Make a contract.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: People will sell, you know, social media. Everybody wants in.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: People giving everything for free, thinking they're getting a big return.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: First of all, you have to promote and work with
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: an artist more than once, twice, even three times to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: be anybody of anything in their clique. get it in writing,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: especially if you did something like me, where your work's
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: not getting posted to after. I mean, look, it's all
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: of season two. She got her balls twisted. She blocked me.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: And now it's like, I didn't do any of those
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: hairstyles and she's walking around with my art in her
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  Speaker 3: gallery for free. It's wrong, you know? And I'm just
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: trying to get out there to promote it. I'm not
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: here to bash her, to throw hate at her. I'm
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: here to promote my work. I did the hair. Everybody's
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: enjoying it. She looks like she's enjoying it on the episode.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: Why should I not be mentioned?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: So now did you do anybody else's? Are you still
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: working with any of the Jersey girls?
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Yes, I did. I've done Dolores. I haven't done her
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: this season because now the season had aired. Yes, I
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: did her during the season, which mind you, fabulous. She
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: actually had taken us for a little spin because there
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: was a part where when I started working with Dolores,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: Danielle asked me, she's like, Is she paying you? Is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: she paying you? And it turned out, I was like, yeah.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, Dolores would never let me do the
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: hair for free. I couldn't even leave the house. Dolores
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: is like, I gotta pay you. I gotta pay you. Like,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: so I guess, you know, she was, she's like, it's
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: your time. It's your money. I said, okay, I'll even
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: give you a little break and you promote me. And
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: Dolores was like, no. Charge me your full price and
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: I'll promote you anyway. That's how it goes. So after that,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: Danielle got a whiff of that. And then she started
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: sending me, like after I would leave her house without asking,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: she would send me like a tip. She would tip
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: me like, you know, like 50 bucks for my gas,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: my time, my whatever. Nowhere near, of course, what I
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: charge or anybody who knows hair would not be charged.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: So she did start sending that in good faith. But
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: that was two seasons in. And I'm talking about halfway
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: through second season. The whole first season, everything was for free.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: Legit pro bono. And following her around all day. Not
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 3: to mention what really gets me going now and like
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: bothers me the most. Imagine you're doing her, like a
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: charity event. Perfect example. You're doing her glam. You're buying
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 3: the ticket for the charity event. She's talking with the
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: makeup artist that did her makeup two times, taking her
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: to dinner. While I'm doing her hair, they're talking about
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: they're all going to go out to dinner, have such
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: a great time. And she didn't even invite me. Because
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 3: yet the makeup artist had hype. She wanted to be
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: on the in crowd. What does she want to take
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: me to dinner for?
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Who am I?
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 3: I'm just her hair girl that I guess doesn't have
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: a big following. So that's another thing. People start treating
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: people according to their following. I mean, I guess it's
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: always been like that, right? Only we don't call it following.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: We call it fame. I mean, really, it's, it's, it's
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: really disgusting. But like I said, it's very, it was
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: more hurtful. You're going, I'm doing your hair for free,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: going to your son's communion and putting money in an
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: envelope for you. Well, I think she didn't do a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: part yet where she feels bad for me.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: So what do you think watching the show? What do you, what,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: just as someone who's, on the inside, but also watching
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: it without like spoiling the episodes and getting yourself in trouble.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: What do you think the fate of New Jersey is?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Cause a lot of people I have to say are
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: not that thrilled with the season. They don't really like
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: the split cast. They, the ratings are down. It's you know,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: a little boring. I mean, sorry.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't like the split.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 3: I didn't like the split cast either. Even just working
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes. I mean, You feel like people think it's,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: you know, not, it's real. You feel the tension, you
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: feel the splitness. Again, I mean, like I feel before,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: if you didn't have that thing, like she wanted me
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 3: to say hi to Jenny, not say hi to Jenny
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: and you wouldn't have these problems. What's the big deal
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: if you're, you know, if you're networking and being normal
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: with people, why does it have to be a team?
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: But to me, this is interesting. And this is being authentic.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: You know, in real life, if you weren't filming a show,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't be fake with your arch enemy or you,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: you know, you would be feeling tension. You would be
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: insecure if this wasn't being filmed. So I appreciate that.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: I do believe New Jersey's being pretty authentic as far
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: as their reactions. It's not that authentic to have someone
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: on Twitter, dig up some stuff and then act like
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: you're reading it for the first time. I don't think
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: that's authentic to put out rumors about people, but, um,
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: you know, being not close is something, but I think
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: as a viewer, we miss, we miss what it was
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: and we miss that them together and, and we don't
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: want people to like each other. But yeah, we want
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: them to like, like each other. Cause for so long,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: we're like, there was always a thing with Teresa and Melissa,
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: but for a long time it was, you know, copacetic
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: and they could get along and they'd have their funny moments.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: And so Yeah, it'll be interesting to see, but I
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: think- I.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: Would have liked that myself. Even behind the closed scenes,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: you do wish that it would be. like BravoCon you're
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: two separate cast it's like are we even the same
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: show here it doesn't feel good it doesn't but I hope.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: You continue hold on wait let me something just popped
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: up wait hold on Drake wait hold on Go ahead. Oh, wait,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: something just happened. Come here. It just like, I'm basically
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: closing up, but they said you're running out of time
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: and like, I have to upgrade or something. Can I just,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: let me just close this real quick.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: We're going to just finish it.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 5: Okay. Sorry.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Let me just, but I do think I'm glad that
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: you share this. Cause I do think this is the
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes stuff that the Bravo fans kind of want.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. that you were hurt and it wasn't what
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: you expected, but obviously you're super talented. I hope more
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: people choose to hire you, whether it's TV or their
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 2: private events or everything. So tell everybody where they can
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: follow you. And all your great styles.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: Karen.dsimon on Instagram.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Follow me tips. I try to keep you guys interested.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: And again, very big in the bridal, but just like going,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: enjoying your events. Any special events, call me.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you so much. This was awesome.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Heather. You're awesome. All right.
• 1:20:09
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• 1:20:12
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• 1:20:15
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• 1:20:22
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• 1:20:28
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• 1:20:31
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• 1:20:34
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• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: car is beautiful. Where did you end up going for it?
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with. They have
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else. You
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: have to put me in touch. What's it called? It's Dunaidial.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial. There's an accent on the E. Do you mean... Yes,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 5: Lift?
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Please. You going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: No.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.