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Formula Fanatics #5 - The Japanese GP & The F1 Movie! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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You know, it's a good thing the schedule worked out just so that we weren't able
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to talk about Japan on the last Formula fanatics episode because this month was
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devoid of formula wide races due to.
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The excursion so we can talk about Japan and all the cool things that happened
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at Suzuka, and finally get the answer to the question everybody's wanted to know.
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Did Tanya watch the Formula One movie and what does she think?
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So let's talk about Japan a little bit.
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It's been a minute.
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Do we remember the race?
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Remember I took copious notes for you guys.
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What race?
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Japan.
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I know, I, I, I'm kidding.
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Who won?
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Oh, yes.
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Now I remember who won.
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Tell me.
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Who won your boy Kim.
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That's right.
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We saw the return of Ptri finally.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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He led for a little while.
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Not long enough though.
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You know what he was doing?
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He was outrunning the IRS.
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That's what he was doing.
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That's why he was hauling ass.
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Was this the one where he had a horrible start again and it had
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to make up all the positions?
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Kimmy fell to like sixth.
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He was on the pole and he dropped back, like the car turned off on him
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and everybody went around him and then he had to play catch up and he ended
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up 14 seconds ahead of Ptri because there was a terrible pit strategy
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that occurred there somewhere as well.
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This is the race.
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Where we were talking about the disparity in speed that caused Beerman's
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terrible wreck, given that his car virtually like almost fell its face low.
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Uh, and then No, no, no.
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It was somebody in front of him and he, it was Okon who dropped Anchor.
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Yeah.
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Or was Gly like one of the two of them dropped Anchor because he had zero energy
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and Beerman made an evasive maneuver and then he ended up hitting the wall.
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They said at 50 Gs.
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Yes.
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That was the impact which he got up and walked away from.
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I mean not, I mean, he was holding his ankle, but still I'm like,
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bro, that was a hit from hell.
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And I watched that replay a bunch and it was just like, wow.
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Yeah, that was tough to watch.
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But it brings up a lot of questions about like yeah.
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The, the, the disparity and the speed and everything.
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And there's been some rule changes over the last month where it's been dark
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because of the races in the Middle East.
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You know, the FIA is saying maybe this 50 50 electric motor
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thing wasn't such a good idea.
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Hmm.
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Really, it's like Volkswagen not listening to its consumers.
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Like not even ISA and the a CO do a 50 50 split.
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Like it's always like an 80 20, like the electric is just a turbo
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basically at the end of the day.
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And it gets 'em out of the pits and you know, out of the corners and stuff.
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Like, kind of acts as all wheel drive, you know, that kind thing.
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This is bonkers and it leads to that Mario Kart bull crap because the same
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thing happens in a video game, right?
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Suddenly Donkey Kong drops anchor and you're in the
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woods and you don't know why.
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Yeah, it, it looked exactly like a video game.
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It was, it was nuts.
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It was K Pinto, that's who was, oh, all those back markers the same, but.
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Now the cleanup from Beerman's accident.
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Remember we talked about China, where they like the a hundred year old
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tractor and like the three old guys with like, I was like, what are we doing?
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Did you see they had like these eight Japanese gentlemen come out
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on the track with these handmade.
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Straw brooms, and they're like sweeping the track.
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I'm like, have they never heard of street sweepers?
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Do they not?
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They don't have these at the track.
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They can't get one from like Tokyo or from one of the big cities.
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Right?
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And bring it to Suzuka to sweep the, they got these guys with their handmade
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brooms looking like they're from Amish, Pennsylvania, sweeping the track.
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It was unreal.
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Took forever.
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It took forever.
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And what it ended up causing was that whole thing with the safety car
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and blah, blah, blah, where Russell got screwed on the pit stop, which.
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Well deserved Russell because I didn't want you to win anyway.
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So locks it in.
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At that point, that was the turning point of the race.
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That's when Kimmy had it in the bag.
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Yeah.
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Now there was a funny quote, if you listen to Russell over the radio
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after that whole thing, 'cause you know you've seen the pictures.
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You've seen the memes, you know he's not happy about stuff and you hear it.
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What was the quote?
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Crying like a baby, he says.
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Are we gonna put Kimmy into that place that we trained?
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It was so cryptic and it was so what?
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Creepy.
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That's what he said.
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Are we gonna put Kimmy into the place that we trained, like we're gonna put him in
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the sin bin or in the torture chamber?
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Or so was like bizarre, bizarre plan X or something like, you know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Bonkers, weird.
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Now Cadillac, what are they doing?
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Hello.
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Aston has their own problems, but Cadillac is like complete buffoonery, ery.
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They start BOTAs on hard tires.
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BOTAs dead freaking last.
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Could not be any slower if he tried and he's just like, what are
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you, what are you buffoons doing?
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But Perez managed not to take him out, so all right.
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I mean, all I'm gonna say Audi's still doing better.
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Terrible.
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Terrible.
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Absolutely terrible.
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I think Cadillac would do better if they just ran the Black Wings, right?
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They would, if they ran the sedans, they would be doing better than the
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Formula One cars, especially when they bounce off of each other, him and Perez.
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Good Lord.
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Oh yeah.
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They looked like Days of Thunder, but still, I mean, it'd come
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out the other side at least.
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And speaking about coming out the other side, Alonzo finished the race.
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He finished in 18th, but he finished the race.
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Wonder how his wrists are doing that.
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He had a month off.
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That's why he's, he, he had to give it at his all, you know,
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it's Japan, you gotta give it your all, you know, it's like a anime.
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Although stroll retired at lap 31, so he did better than the 25 projected.
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The safety car helped, you know, the lower speeds of the safety car helped.
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So Kimmy ends up 14 seconds ahead of Ptri, and then there was a really
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good battle between Le Claire.
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And Russell, despite the fake overtake stuff.
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So there's a good battle for third and fourth there, and then Lando
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and Hamilton for fifth and sixth.
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Another little battle going on there.
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I, for whatever reason, find myself really rooting for Hamilton this year.
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Tell me why, why is that?
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I don't know why.
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Like, I, I like a good comeback story.
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I guess everybody is trying to say that Hamilton's like at the end of his career.
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And then I'm, I'm pointing to Eric when I, when I say everybody, so
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I, I'd like a good comeback story.
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I'd like to see him come back and, and do the whole I feel you.
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I feel you.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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But let me add to that.
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All the chicanery and the shenanigans with that F 40 and Kim Kardashian.
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Oh my God.
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Well, apparently let, let's not even be those people because
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like, I don't know, they're like on the beach together and crap.
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Like who cares about their personal life?
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I don't care.
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No, no, because it's, it's so.
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In Ferrari's face, like I don't know if he's trying to make a point or
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whatever, but you can imagine that Mar is not happy with the way he
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is conducting himself in publisher.
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But was Marine ever happy?
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They were happy with Schumacher.
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When was the last time they were happy Schumacher?
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They were happy.
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So 2002.
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Well, uh, anyway, early two thousands, maybe.
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Maybe the other Kimmy, because he was like the ice man.
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He never did anything wrong.
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You know what I mean?
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Kimmy Renan did, he just didn't give a fuck.
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But my point is Ferrari.
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It's Ferrari, right?
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And it's like.
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He's running around in an F 40, which I mean, mad props.
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I mean, if I had an F 40, I'd be driving it too.
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But that's like these videos with the drone and him drifting through a
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parking garage and then she's in the car and like all this, this stuff.
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And I'm like, what does this say?
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What what, what are you trying to do?
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And then, I don't know.
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So he's done it before.
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Other cars, but now he is done it in the Ferrari.
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So does he just add, is he added to the list?
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Apparently this is, I think the third time he's done those stunts in Japan.
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I don't know, I dunno, it just sits weird with me.
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I, I just don't, I can't put my finger on why it just feels wrong.
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I feel that he probably talked to Ferrari about it.
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They knew about it from his, I don't think so.
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Past, and they were probably okay.
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They, he probably got their blessing is my guess.
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I don't think so at all.
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'cause I think there's been comments made about how they don't like
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his behavior outside the track.
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Then they shouldn't have signed him because he wasn't anything he was doing.
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Anything he's doing now is not stuff that he wasn't doing before.
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Well, yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
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So then that's shame on them, not shame on him.
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Maybe Toto had a slightly, you know, he was even as uptight as he is,
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maybe he was better okay with it.
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So Nigel Mansel.
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Has been quoted.
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Oh boy.
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Here we go.
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Good.
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The lion.
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So mantle in talking about an eighth championship for Hamilton, he's quoted
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saying, I'm going to be romantic.
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I'd like Lewis to do it.
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Good said through his broom mustache.
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So he would like to see an eight time world champion in Louis Hamilton.
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It'd be the first eight time world champion.
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It's a senior driver showing up the younger drivers half his age.
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It, it makes for a good story pretty much.
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Right.
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It makes for the next F1 movie, which is possibly a development.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Who's gonna hang their hat on that the most, who benefits the
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most Ferrari benefits the most?
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Because then they can say, we had two of the most winningest F1 champions ever.
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That would be Schumacher, of course, and Hamilton at that point.
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But Mercedes claims 99% of it.
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Like, come on, guys.
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Like really?
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Like, I don't know.
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Personally, I don't think it matters if Hamilton wins an eighth.
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I, I'm kind of like with where it's like.
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If you won one or you won four or you won eight, it sort of
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really makes no difference.
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You still won a championship, kind of move on with life.
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So is Lando super awesome?
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'cause he is won his one championship.
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He's better than stroll.
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Uh, okay.
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I'll agree with Brad on that.
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My personal feelings towards Lando, like, eh, that whole season was a, I
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don't know that it felt like collusion.
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He's, he's won, he is won world championship.
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He's just as good as everybody else.
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Yes, and he probably will never win one again like Kiki
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Rossberg or some of the others.
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But it doesn't matter that he doesn't win another one again, he's won one.
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If you've won one or two or four or eight.
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It's all the same.
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I agree.
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So why does Hamilton need to reach for eight?
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That's the question.
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I don't think it's the same.
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Don't think it's the same.
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I don't wanna make the comparison, but to me, I feel like if you push
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your luck and it's different, right?
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This is a weird analogy, but it's sort of like the Lindsay Vaughn thing where it's
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like Hamilton's sort of like Lindsay, like can you get to a point where you're
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like, dude, is it really worth it?
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I don't think that's a good comparison.
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Actually, I kind, I kind think that's fairly accurate.
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I don't think he's acting reckless.
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Not to say she was being reckless, but I don't think he's, he's out
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there being a reckless driver.
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No, I mean he's, he's fairly competitive and I think Lindsey Wong was.
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Fairly competitive even.
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But Lindsay, Yvonne went into the Olympics being a world champion.
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Yeah.
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After several years of retirement and at her age of 40 or 41 years
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old, she was at the top of her game.
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And a ton of injuries too.
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Like she had a ton of injuries and stuff.
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Yeah.
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While having recovered from past injuries, et cetera.
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So for people that criticized her, she shouldn't have been there.
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Why was she ranked number one then against people half her age?
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You know what I'm saying?
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It was a very unfortunate accident that she had that was almost like a fluke.
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She made a poor decision, which arguably you could say Hamilton
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could make a poor passing negotiation error, but even any of them could.
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Any of them could right now with this stupid speed disparity.
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Oh yeah.
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100s.
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Exactly what happened to Beerman.
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Yeah.
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If Stroll's allowed to be out there, then there's absolutely zero reason why
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Hamilton can't be out there, I guess.
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So there's no reason why even Nigel Mansel can't be out there if stroll's out there.
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How many people is Lewis taken out?
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How many people has Lance taken out?
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Yes.
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I can't disagree with that.
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I mean, absolutely.
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That that's a statistic they need to add.
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How many people has Lance taken out and who is he taken out the most?
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His teammate or somebody else?
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Yeah.
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Well, yeah.
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Okay.
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So Alonzo's got the most, I've got another question for you.
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Oh, boy.
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Who is better at their craft?
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Lance Stroll or Volkswagen?
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Ooh.
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Ooh.
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That might go to Lance.
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Uh, who's got my money?
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Land Stroller.
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Volkswagen.
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I guess to wrap up that thought, though, I could care less if Hamilton wins or loses.
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It's sort of the same in the end, you know what I mean?
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Because I feel like he doesn't have anything left to prove in Formula
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One other than this one thing.
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I feel like he wasted time, especially in the seasons leading up to this, where
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he really wasn't doing Jack of all and he could have enjoyed motor sport elsewhere.
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He's already a multimillionaire.
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Go do Lama, go do touring car, go do something else.
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Maybe he's not interested.
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So, but the thing is, and it's, it's a weird thing to say, but if you're that
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good, at least go after the Triple Crown.
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No, the Triple Crown hasn't been taken away from Graham Hill.
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It hasn't been done since the sixties where somebody won LAMA
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Formula One and the Indy 500.
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Hamilton should have shot for that because it would've put him
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in a totally no different league.
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No.
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No, imagine the pressure you're under.
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Everyone expects that you can go be Triple Crown and then you fucking do shit.
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That's what happened to Alonzo.
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He got two outta three.
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He was driving Hondas though, two outta three for Alonzo.
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But Alonzo tried.
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At least he tried.
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I don't think like rooting for Hamilton means I want him to win a championship.
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I don't really care about that.
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But I do enjoy seeing him be more competitive, like in his battles
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with Russell or, or not Russell, his battles with the cleric.
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I mean, that's some of the best racing like I've seen in a long time.
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And then just, just seeing him be in like the, the top five or whatever and watching
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him get a podium every once in a while.
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It's, it, it, it excites me.
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I like it.
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The problem is this competitive racing that we're seeing is
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like, it's not competitive.
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It's bullshit.
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Yeah.
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It looks really cool.
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'cause it's like, wow, there's actually something happening.
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It's not just Parade Labs, but then it's artificial.
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'cause it's like, oh, let me pass you 'cause my battery's charged.
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Oh, now you pass me your battery's charged.
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And it's like.
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Would it be that competitive if we didn't have these batteries?
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No, I still think he would be, he and cleric would still
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be battling with each other.
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I don't think so.
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I guess we're gonna find out since they changed the regulations.
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Yeah, we're gonna find out at the next race.
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Although the next race is trash anyway.
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'cause Miami's a terrible track, so.
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Oh, it's horrendous.
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Yeah.
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But, but we do have the one after that to look for, which is
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the potato, I mean, uh, Canada.
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Let's hope that Lando makes a pass on the outside of Ptri again, and
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this time, you know, whatever.
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Uh, yeah, the whole super clipping thing and all the energy management
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changes and they've made a whole bunch of changes to the cars in
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the month that they've been off.
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So.
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Are we gonna see anything really change at the end of the day that,
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uh, this season is just, oh, and the rumors are Ferrari's done Some
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upgrades, so, oh boy, in the upgrade, the second little spoiler to the halo.
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Is that what they've done?
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So we'll see how left side and right side.
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Oh, adjustable left shark, right Shark?
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Yeah.
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We still don't have that rotating spoiler that they showed in the preseason.
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So to wrap up Suzuka, Tanya, where did Audi finish?
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Uh, I think 11 and 13.
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Solidly in the middle.
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Solidly sucking.
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Yep.
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No.
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I don't know why you're saying that for a first time out team in Formula
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One and they're solidly in the middle, I don't think that's that bad.
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Everyone thought Cadillac was gonna come out and be at the front and they're
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fucking dead last getting lapped.
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They are, unfortunately, the laughing stock, they're kind of
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where Haas was like 20 years ago.
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You know what I mean?
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It's like terrible.
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The Americans don't belong at F1.
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I guess the American manufacturers, the American teams don't belong at F1
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and they're doing better than Williams.
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I mean, barely bare.
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Doesn't matter.
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I mean, I think to think they were gonna be one, two suddenly first time
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out, I don't think was realistic.
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But I think being in the middle and actually.
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Fighting for points and having and getting points.
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Actually, I don't think that's a bad place to be for like the third race.
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That's better than DN Fing constantly, especially given their mediocre drivers.
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There's that too, right?
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So, but here's the question.
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How long can Volkswagen afford to have Audi running in 10th place?
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Basically, Volkswagen can't afford it now.
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They shouldn't even be doing it now.
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Yes, a thousand percent.
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Okay.
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So does it really matter that we're excited about Audi when there's the
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high probability that they won't last two seasons, but maybe this
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is one of those things where like you build a company to sell it.
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Maybe they're building the Audi F1 team to sell.
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Although it's Salur, isn't it?
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It's it's, they just got their name on it, so yeah.
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More F1 teams that don't really deserve to be there.
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They should have died out just like Williams 30 years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Like whatever.
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So I don't know that that's the disappointing part.
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That's why I keep going there because we're excited, but it's like meh.
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It's all meh.
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And Audi's only doing okay because the astons are falling apart.
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The Cadillacs are garbage.
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So that's four cars that are out of their way.
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So if we count up from what, 22, we're already guaranteed to be an 18?
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No, but it doesn't matter.
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That just means that Audi's engineers are doing a better job.
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Then the, the great Adrian Newey at Aston Martin, whose car is a
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fucking piece of trash, and Cadillac, who's so good everywhere else,
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and their car is hot garbage also.
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So what does that mean?
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Are the Audis doing that?
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Well, because Bono keeps saying that there's problems with the power units.
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Bono's an idiot also.
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So there's that.
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Hey, he's in charge now.
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Okay.
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He's in charge, he's setting expectations for when he ruins the team.
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He's looking for an excuse.
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He's, he's the racer excuse.
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So when he stars in the third Ghostbusters movie, like, what, what, what do we, and
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maybe there are, maybe there are power unit issues that are causing them to be in
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the middle of the pack, which if they're still in the middle of the pack with power
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unit issues, that's pretty impressive.
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They keep using those two liter turbos.
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That's the problem.
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Right.
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We already know there's an issue with them.
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So they got a 1.8 T in there.
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That's why they're in the middle of the pack.
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Well, yeah.
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Everybody else is running six cylinder and they're running,
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they need to run a VR six.
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Yeah, they need to put that 3.2 in there from the beetle TSI or RSI.
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Yeah, a hundred percent.
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It's, it's just disappointing.
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It really is.
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I, I also think that had Audi had the opportunity to have better drivers,
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to Brad's point, they'd be doing better probably out of the gate.
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'cause I don't think Bline and Holgenburg have it in them to go any
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higher than where they're, or even if they had a better team principle.
20:24
I mean, what if they had Christian Horner?
20:27
Dude, I read that.
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I thought that was an April Fools joke.
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Like for real.
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Like I was like, you have got to be kidding me.
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The headline Audi rules out Christian Horner as the F1 lead.
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That man is Unhirable.
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Like you think if Audi stooped to that level and hired Christian Horner,
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what would that say about them?
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Would you feel the same way, Tanya?
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If Christian Horner was the principle, I mean, it would not look good.
20:53
It would not look good.
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But see, look how good they're doing.
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They're rejecting Satan be gone.
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They've welcomed Jesus Christ into their hearts and into their lives.
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Oh, can you imagine Christian Horner at Audi?
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Like what?
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What?
21:09
He must be pretty desperate.
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They would be after he, I'm telling you, he's Unhirable.
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He's never gonna have a job before one ever again.
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He's gonna end up at Cadillac.
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You know, they might just stoop to that level
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and they'll, they'll, they'll bring Gunther Steiner back to
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his, uh, uh, vice principal.
21:30
So Miami's a wash because it's like Monte Carlo, where you qualify
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is where you're gonna finish.
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So that's the end of that.
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How do we think Audi's gonna do at Canada, which is actually a pretty fast track.
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Better than catalog.
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It's hard to say.
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Well, yeah, yeah.
21:45
Better, better than Cadillac.
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They're better than stroll.
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Where we, we've really set the bar high.
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We don't know what the, what the, the changes from the
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regulations are going to Right.
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Bring for them.
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I say they end up where they're, where they've been ending up middle of the pack.
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See, and I, and I think you're onto something, Brad.
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I think that's where Miami, we're gonna see more of the same, or we're not gonna
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really tell if the regulations have made a difference because Miami is so tight.
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It's got those little bursts of short straightaways, but then it's all,
22:15
you know, rinky-dink, like you're driving around a parking lot, you
22:18
are driving around a parking lot.
22:20
Well, yeah, but literally what I'm getting at is, what I'm getting at
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is you're not gonna see the effect of the changes that they made.
22:26
So Canada and the races after that, the, the faster races, the European
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races are gonna be more telling if these regulations actually
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made a hill of beans a difference.
22:35
Yeah, maybe we will see the impact.
22:37
'cause there won't be some massive crash Is stroll in the race?
22:41
Oh, I guarantee you there'll be a massive crash then there's still
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potential for a massive crash.
22:45
Amen to that dude.
22:46
Every, it's like rolling the, it's like rolling the
22:48
Dungeons and Dragons here, man.
22:50
Let's just roll the dice.
22:51
Let's go roll for initiative.
22:54
Roll for Destruction.
22:55
Lance Stroll.
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That's gonna be my d and d character.
22:58
Now I name him Stroll.
22:59
What do you think he, he always rolls a 20 Infinite death.
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Oh boy.
23:05
Alright, so the question that's been on everybody's mind for six months.
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Oh man.
23:11
Keep people up at night.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The F1 movie.
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Did you watch it?
23:16
I watched the majority of it.
23:19
Wait, what does that mean?
23:22
I fell asleep.
23:25
So, so, so Tanya got A-D-N-F-I fell asleep.
23:31
In the second, in a, in a portion of the second half.
23:35
Oh man.
23:35
It was that riveting.
23:36
Huh?
23:37
So I'm not really sure what I missed, but I don't think I missed a lot.
23:41
You, you didn't miss anything.
23:43
And, and I barely remember the movie.
23:48
It was that good.
23:49
It was that good.
23:51
It was stupid premise.
23:54
It was unrealistic, but the CGI and the real footage and the actual
24:00
F1 drivers that don't drive for F1 anymore, and Christian Horner was in it.
24:06
Immediately dated like a Child to Survive episode it.
24:12
Okay.
24:12
Was it the retelling of Days of Thunder or not?
24:16
Mm. With a little bit of Grand Smo thrown in?
24:18
No, it was more the retelling of Driven.
24:20
Yeah.
24:21
I'll give you that.
24:21
Just Stallone movie.
24:22
No.
24:23
'cause there wasn't Days of Thunder, wasn't a redemption story of some.
24:27
Washed out.
24:28
Older driver.
24:30
Yeah.
24:30
But then we had the kid, we had the Louis Hamilton guy in it too.
24:33
Remember his His teammate?
24:35
Yeah.
24:35
And that guy was an obnoxious.
24:37
So I mean, there were definitely points in the movie that just
24:41
were like, so stupid, eh?
24:43
What was it like one point?
24:45
In the racing, Brad Pitt's character, Sonny, he starts wrecking the other cars
24:50
to get like red flag or safety cars.
24:53
So then that way the other dude was moving up.
24:55
I'm like, bull fucking shit.
24:56
The second time that happened, your ass would be black flagged and fucking
24:59
off the track like the, that was such fantasy and didn't make any sense.
25:03
I don't know, like stuff like that just takes away, it's like this is unrealistic.
25:07
This is such a farce.
25:08
And it's like it's the ha car from like several years ago suddenly
25:11
go, being able to be in like I'm right behind max for stepping.
25:15
No you're not.
25:15
You're right behind him.
25:16
'cause he just lapped you.
25:23
So what you're saying is you really enjoyed this movie.
25:26
I mean, it was fine.
25:27
If you check your brain at the door as a motorsport enthusiast, then
25:30
yet you are a hundred percent right.
25:32
I mean, cinematically, it was nicely done.
25:35
I mean, I'll give it that, right?
25:36
Like all that and, and the camera angles and blah, blah, blah.
25:42
But I mean, you really have to like suspend reality a little bit and just
25:47
take it as a movie that, you know, it's, it's fantasy and all that.
25:51
Because again, like the storyline is unrealistic, right?
25:54
He was a 20 something hot shot who had some major shunt.
25:58
I don't even remember what caused it that.
26:01
Then he was basically broke his back in 15 places and that was the end of his
26:05
career and he was supposed to be the next.
26:07
Michael Schumacher, sna even raced against them.
26:11
Sounds like the beginning of the last chase.
26:13
Remember how that started?
26:14
There's no Burgess Meredith in this though.
26:17
Yeah, I did like Javier Barnum's character though.
26:19
He plays, you know, one of the typical Italian team principles, not Bento.
26:24
Definitely I liked his character.
26:26
That was like probably my favorite guy.
26:27
Movie, I would've needed to have re-watched it again.
26:30
No, it's two and a half hours of your life.
26:32
You didn't get back the first time.
26:33
It was, and that's why I fell asleep and I watched it on a
26:35
plane, so, oh, that's awful.
26:38
It's, it was too long.
26:39
It was a great plane movie because you need to kill that much time.
26:43
Right.
26:43
But it was very long, which is what deterred me from
26:45
watching it that one time.
26:46
You're like, let's watch it.
26:47
I'm like, how long is it?
26:48
You're like, two and a half hours, and it's like eight o'clock.
26:51
I'm like, Nope.
26:53
No.
26:54
Now having seen it.
26:55
Would you recommend this movie?
26:57
So I'm doing the Steven Izzy thing now.
26:59
I mean, sure if you have two, two plus hours and you want sort of
27:05
an actiony movie, if you want to classify it as that, I don't know.
27:08
What did you learn?
27:10
What did I learn?
27:13
That apparently you can go from 30 years later.
27:17
Driving a Formula One car to then into another Formula One
27:20
car in wind, magically terrible.
27:23
So now that you've seen it, do you think there's room for a second
27:27
movie, F two or whatever they're gonna call, we're gonna go backwards.
27:30
No.
27:31
F you, what would it be?
27:33
Right.
27:34
Is it Brad Pitt gonna be in it because they ended the movie.
27:36
Spoiler alert, for anybody who waited six months and is still going without
27:41
seeing it turn off the volume right now.
27:44
He left T, he won his first F1 race ever.
27:48
Not a world champion 'cause it was just one race.
27:50
But he is the champion of that single race.
27:52
So he got his one podium first place and then he's like, okay, I'm done.
27:56
Now I'm exiting Formula One.
27:58
And then he goes to like the Baja 1000 or whatever it is.
28:02
So what's the premise of the second one gonna be?
28:06
Baja 1000.
28:07
That's not F1.
28:08
No.
28:09
And Joshua Pierce, dude didn't take the Mercedes seat from Toto and he is
28:15
gonna stay with the Haas team there.
28:18
And I guess in the second one he is.
28:21
A world champion now, or about to be, or like, so what would
28:25
Brad Pitt come back to do?
28:26
Like coach him again?
28:28
Like I Team principal.
28:30
He'd be Alonzo like, is he coming back and he's gonna be the team
28:34
principal, because that would be boring.
28:37
IF Yeah, that'd be terrible.
28:39
Absolutely terrible.
28:40
It's gonna be ocean.
28:41
It's gonna be Oceans 11.
28:43
In F1 cars.
28:44
Like is he Even in the next one, you'll just see Brad Pitt in the
28:47
background eating like he does in all the other movies that he said,
28:50
and that's all he is gonna do.
28:51
Stand there and give one liners and eat some food.
28:53
Terrible.
28:54
You know what movie I would watch?
28:56
What's that?
28:56
And look forward to, Ooh, I think I know where you're going with this.
29:00
Because the little rumors are coming up, bubbling up to the surface again.
29:04
Even Jeff Gordon has been saying stuff, well, you're going somewhere else,
29:09
because I think he's been talking to Mr.
29:10
Cruz.
29:11
Could we possibly have a days of thunder too?
29:15
Ah, see, I thought you were gonna talk about the Schumacher
29:18
movie that's coming out.
29:20
'cause that looks super good.
29:22
Have you seen that?
29:23
Where they follow the life of Michael Schumacher?
29:25
Mm-hmm.
29:26
Oh yeah.
29:26
It's sort of in the guise of the Sena film in the, in that
29:30
sort of style and everything.
29:31
And it looks really good.
29:33
I, I'm trying to remember what it's called now.
29:35
I saw a pr, an actual trailer for it.
29:38
It's epic.
29:39
Like it goes all the way back to the beginning when he is like, you know,
29:42
same thing as sent a cart racing and coming up and driving the seven
29:45
up car, the Jordan and how he ends up at Ferrari and the whole thing.
29:49
And you know, obviously, wait, this isn't the movie.
29:51
They, this isn't the, the, the movie documentary thing they
29:53
already did on him, on Netflix?
29:55
No, this is something new where they found an actor who looks like Schumacher and
29:58
looks like a bunch, so much like Sena.
30:01
They've been trying to cast to look like the real people, and
30:03
it, it looks super awesome.
30:04
If I can find the trailer, I'll include it with the episode,
30:08
but it's, it's super cool.
30:10
Oh, okay.
30:10
Yep, I see it.
30:11
Schumacher 94, I guess is what it's called.
30:14
It has another working title plan for 2026 on Netflix.
30:18
Yes.
30:19
The 1994 focuses the 1994 Formula one season highlighting the intense
30:24
championship battle Sunna's death, and the Shomi mania that followed his first title.
30:29
Yep.
30:30
I think that is gonna be the movie to watch out for in the coming
30:33
year, or miniseries or however they're gonna lay that out.
30:37
Well, unless you guys have any other F1 news, I guess we'll bite our tongues
30:42
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30:46
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