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#583 Osher Gunsberg's Brilliant Dad Life · Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families

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Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for the.
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Speaker 2: Time poor parent who just wants answers Now. Hello, this
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Speaker 2: is doctor Justin Colson. Welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 2: Happy Families podcasts. Father's Day. It's a week away and
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Speaker 2: so we've decided this week we're going to celebrate a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of dads who are just damn well amazing
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Speaker 2: and we're starting with I think one of Australia's best known,
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Speaker 2: most recognized media personalities, Osha Gonsberg. He hosts the Better
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Speaker 2: Than Yesterday podcast. It's a podcast that aims to make
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Speaker 2: today just that little bit better than yesterday and has
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Speaker 2: a chat with guests each time about how they've figured
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Speaker 2: out how to make their lives a bit better than yesterday.
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Speaker 2: You'll see Osher with the Bachelor franchise. He's been involved
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Speaker 2: in the Masked Singer. He had a memoir out called
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Speaker 2: Back After the Break. Osher has kind of been everywhere
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Speaker 2: and done everything, and he joins me now on the
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Speaker 2: Happy Families podcast so that we can talk about what
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Speaker 2: life is like for him as a dad. Osha, thanks
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Speaker 2: for being on.
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Speaker 1: The podcast, I mate, I'm just grateful to return the
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Speaker 1: favor you have taken time away from your extraordinary download numbers.
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Speaker 1: Time on dad put a few times they have We're
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Speaker 1: just this tiny, little, tiny, little itty bitty nebulous, a
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Speaker 1: bunch of dads trying to create a podcast, just this
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Speaker 1: behemoth that you're on. I'm grateful to be a part
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Speaker 1: of it. Thanks man.
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Speaker 2: I also love that we've got this guy with this
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Speaker 2: not just not just an incredible chisel jaw that everyone
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Speaker 2: gets to enjoy on Network ten, but the voice. Listen,
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Speaker 2: Listen to that former radio voice that tells, well, this is.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is also the worst of someone who's just
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Speaker 1: you know, finished eleven or twelve episodes. I don't know
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Speaker 1: what they're going to do. In the edit of the
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Speaker 1: Master Singer last night at at twelve thirty and then
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Speaker 1: you know, I was doing the daycare run coming up
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Speaker 1: to eight am this morning. But this is the microphone.
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Speaker 1: I'm speaking to you on the very microphone. This is
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Speaker 1: the actual setup that I, you know, I do the previously,
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Speaker 1: like that's this, it's this and tonight on Bondo Risk
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Speaker 1: it's this microphone. So that's why it sounds like it
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Speaker 1: does because this is it. This is the microphone that
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Speaker 1: it happens on.
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Speaker 2: It's the microphone that makes you sound like the ultimate dad. Right,
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Speaker 2: it's the microphone that plays the bills. Right now, mate,
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Speaker 2: I should tell me about this. You said it was
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Speaker 2: a disaster. It was. It was hard work getting you
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Speaker 2: a little one. I presume it was Wolf getting a
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Speaker 2: wolfing into the car this morning for daycare.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Wolf, it's just this morning on the way to daycare.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes you just thrilled the go. Sometimes you just can't wait.
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Speaker 1: It's like, are we going yet? Sorry? Mate, got to
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Speaker 1: get some stuff, sort of got to pack some more
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Speaker 1: things in your bag. I don't know. But today, mate,
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Speaker 1: it was just it was just not happening, and it
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Speaker 1: was tough, you know, because his ability to self regulate
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Speaker 1: is quite limited, and he does intervene, he does get
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Speaker 1: in there. He does have a few little breath things
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Speaker 1: that we've shown him, like he once got pinched putting
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Speaker 1: his bicycle helmet on, and so he would go on
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Speaker 1: the way. And so now when we get on the bicycle, like, okay,
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Speaker 1: do you big breathin goes and I go and as
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Speaker 1: he breathes out, I need a click a click in
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Speaker 1: and I see perfect, he guess, yeah, no worries and
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Speaker 1: so I've seen him do that by himself a few times,
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Speaker 1: and he's not even three and he's already self regulating
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Speaker 1: using his breath, which is brilliant. But his ability to
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Speaker 1: know when to do that is limited, vanishing more. And
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Speaker 1: so this morning it was just not happening. And it
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Speaker 1: was one of those ones where like I've I'm not
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Speaker 1: the kind of person to put the forearm across the
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Speaker 1: chest to get him into the baby seat ever, but
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Speaker 1: today it had to happen. I had to do it
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Speaker 1: because the arms weren't going again. And it's like one
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Speaker 1: of those mornings where you can't put your head between
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Speaker 1: his feet and the front seat because you know you're
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Speaker 1: going to cop a kick to the chin. And it's
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Speaker 1: it's you just need to remember that his ability to
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Speaker 1: decide not to kick you in the face doesn't exist.
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Speaker 1: He cannot regulate his behavior. He cannot He can't expect
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Speaker 1: him to know that, you know, to not hurt someone
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Speaker 1: at that point when he's that agitated. But he just
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Speaker 1: because of our day with the Audrey and eye that like,
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Speaker 1: you just got to go a daycare mode. Sorry, body,
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Speaker 1: we got stuff to do and you can't be around otherwise.
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Speaker 1: Nothing's going to happen today. But understanding how his little
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Speaker 1: brain works, and how is the decision making process works,
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Speaker 1: and how is dopamine things, all that sort of stuff,
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Speaker 1: how is development works, really really helps you. I find
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Speaker 1: it helps me try to keep my calm and try
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Speaker 1: to keep me equal when I'm in that when he's
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Speaker 1: in that state, well you get.
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Speaker 2: You get the Data of the Year award for your
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Speaker 2: MMA avoidance this morning in the back the car and
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Speaker 2: then the trip with and I want to call it
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Speaker 2: distraction because in some ways it is, but it's not
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Speaker 2: just distraction. Like you said. Once you move out of
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Speaker 2: the initial let me distract you and do the circuit breaking,
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Speaker 2: you're stepping into a mindfulness mode where you're actually just
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Speaker 2: paying attention to the here and now, noticing what's happening
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Speaker 2: and and doing doing good things. It's it's so nice
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Speaker 2: to hear the way that you've done that and that
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Speaker 2: you're involved like that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes when if he's super losing it to break
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Speaker 1: the cycle. We live in the way the streets are
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Speaker 1: in our house. There's a little block we can walk
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Speaker 1: around which takes about seven minutes, and we walk around
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Speaker 1: the block and it's not a tree it's a meloluca tree. Oh,
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Speaker 1: look at this beautiful you know, you know north of
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Speaker 1: colon pine. Oh, look at this spiky feel that it's
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Speaker 1: kind of rough. And we go around the block just
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Speaker 1: kind of naming and touching and feeling and seeing the
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Speaker 1: different colors. It's a different colored green to that color green,
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Speaker 1: isn't it? Oh? I can hear a carral w can
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Speaker 1: you hear a man poist? It's not bird bird bird,
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Speaker 1: you know? And we name everything and then by the
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Speaker 1: time we get back eight minutes later, different human, different,
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Speaker 1: different human.
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Speaker 2: And just even being outside, like, you don't have to
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Speaker 2: be a botanist, you don't have to be a natureist
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Speaker 2: to be able to do that. I'll know it's great
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Speaker 2: if you can. But just being outside it changes it
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Speaker 2: changes our kids. Hey, right off the break, we're gonna
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Speaker 2: talk specifically about you, dadding. We're going to do a
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Speaker 2: lightning round. Okay, Okay, I've got I don't know ten,
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Speaker 2: maybe eleven questions that are going to put you in
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Speaker 2: a couple of compromising positions, make you puzzle a little
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Speaker 2: bit and have a bit of fun about what it
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Speaker 2: is to be a dad. All right, Well, look when
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Speaker 2: I get two out of eleven. I will then play
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Speaker 2: the theme from the Bluie TV show on my melodica
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Speaker 2: and get myself out of jail.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Asher as we move towards Father's Day and celebrate everything
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Speaker 2: that's great about Dad. So Osher, let's dive into this.
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Speaker 2: This is a lightning round. It should take five minutes,
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Speaker 2: but I guess that's really going to be up to you.
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Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know what a lightning round means.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, mate, here we go. You've mentioned you've got it.
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Speaker 2: Tell us how many kids you've gotten how old they are.
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Speaker 1: We have two kids. Georgia is eighteen. She's my most
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Speaker 1: step daughter. She's been in my life since she was ten,
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Speaker 1: and Wolfe is nearly three.
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Speaker 2: Okay, which one's your favorite?
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Speaker 1: I don't have a favorite, no favorite. They're both equally
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Speaker 1: magnificent in each each way. There's no possible word to
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Speaker 1: pick a favorite.
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Speaker 2: All right, I'll let you get away with that one. Osha,
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Speaker 2: who do you love the most?
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Speaker 1: Audrey?
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Speaker 2: Your partner or the kids?
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Speaker 1: It's different things, mate, It's like what do I love more?
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Speaker 1: Do I love riding my bicycle? Do I love riding
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Speaker 1: my motorbike? Do I love driving my car? If I
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Speaker 1: need to go from here to there, I get there
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Speaker 1: each way. But they're different, completely different experiences. You can't
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Speaker 1: compare them. I love you the love. The love that
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Speaker 1: you have for a child is utterly completely different to
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Speaker 1: the love that you have for your intimate partner. They're
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Speaker 1: two separate, two separate things. Yeah, it's an impossible question
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Speaker 1: to answer.
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Speaker 2: Is another impossible one for you? Ideal number of kids?
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Speaker 1: We've got two and two is a perfect number, and
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Speaker 1: it would take two concurrent medical miracles for there to
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Speaker 1: be more than two it's We're very, very happy and
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Speaker 1: extraordinarily lucky to have to.
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Speaker 2: Oh, how do you rate yourself as a parent out
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Speaker 2: of ten?
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Speaker 1: Like in the step in the step dad version of
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Speaker 1: what I do? I probably hover anywhere between six and eight,
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Speaker 1: with the occasional dip down to four and three when
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Speaker 1: I really don't get it right, which happens less now
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Speaker 1: but used to happen a lot because I was, you know,
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Speaker 1: being a parental figure to a ten essentially an eleven
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Speaker 1: year old with one year parenting experience. You know, I
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Speaker 1: made a lot of mistakes. Unfortunately that with wolf I
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Speaker 1: reckon I have more anywhere again in between about you
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Speaker 1: know that six and eight, but always looking for that,
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Speaker 1: you know, never going to get to ten. That's fine,
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Speaker 1: ten doesn't exist, but yeah, just try trauma hartist Osha.
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Speaker 1: What's something great that your parents did that you've tried
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Speaker 1: to continue in your parenting exposure to to music and
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Speaker 1: different expressions of culture through art or through theater or
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Speaker 1: definitely music, absolutely music. It's been easy now, like Wolfe
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Speaker 1: was born into into an Australia that was on fire
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Speaker 1: and then very quickly locked in, so it's been a
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Speaker 1: little harder to go to the theater and go see
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Speaker 1: orchestras and things. But we do, we do listen to
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Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of music all the time.
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Speaker 1: We have a lot of different musical instruments, and we
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Speaker 1: are you know, there's a lot of art and that
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Speaker 1: I'm really grateful that my parents were right into bringing
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Speaker 1: us into that world. Music wasn't just Bob was on
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Speaker 1: the radio. Music was Ah, there's orchestras, and there's jazz,
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Speaker 1: and there's Jacques Tati and there's you know, there's not
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Speaker 1: just Marvel movies. There's you know, all kinds of films.
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Speaker 1: And I'm two of four brothers. That gave me and
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Speaker 1: my brothers just a wider angle view of the world
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Speaker 1: to see expression of emotion in so many different things
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Speaker 1: rather than just oh, this is a sad song, so
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Speaker 1: therefore that's what it is. But you know, for example,
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Speaker 1: the person who designed my snap Block I phone case,
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Speaker 1: that is as much an artistic expression as you know,
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Speaker 1: Marla's Knight Symphony. You know, being able to see that
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Speaker 1: as the expression the emotional expression of someone I just
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Speaker 1: who designed this and created it is a very important
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Speaker 1: thing I feel, And yeah, I think that I'm really
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Speaker 1: grateful the Audry's on board with all that.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about you and Audrey. Who's the better parent?
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Speaker 1: God, Audrey, come on, are you kidding me?
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Speaker 2: Like brownie points?
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Speaker 1: It's not about brownie points. It's just about being an
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Speaker 1: admission of what it is that. You know. All I
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Speaker 1: knew about parenting and what it is to be a
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Speaker 1: dad I had from my own family of origin, you know.
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Speaker 1: And everyone has a different story around that. Audrey had
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Speaker 1: Georgia when she was twenty three. She had Georgia by herself.
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Speaker 1: She was twenty three and dropped out of UNI to
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Speaker 1: have Georgia and just is just the most extraordinary, extraordinarily
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Speaker 1: kind parent. And every action was to you know, past
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Speaker 1: another little bit of independence and solid boundary to g
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Speaker 1: and now you know, she's this super powerful and incredible eighteen
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Speaker 1: year old. There's just just kicking in doors. She's amazing.
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Speaker 2: Love. I love it when somebody speaks so positively, so
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Speaker 2: highly of their partner and is willing to do it
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Speaker 2: in a really unashamed and public way.
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Speaker 1: Come on, she's so good. Yeah, okay, I learned everything
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Speaker 1: from her.
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Speaker 2: Next, next question for you, what's the hardest thing about
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Speaker 2: being a parent?
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Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing that I've seen other people
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Speaker 1: go through is just the acceptance, the wonderful acceptance that
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Speaker 1: the life you had until the moment either the kid
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Speaker 1: popped out the suner before them, you know, came out
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Speaker 1: through the undercarriage, that life stopped, and the life the
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Speaker 1: door closed and that's it, and you say goodbye to it.
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Speaker 1: And that's wonderful because what happens now is so much
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Speaker 1: more amazing and incredible, and there's elements of the life
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Speaker 1: before that that can come into this new bit. But
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Speaker 1: being an acceptance that it's just never ever ever going
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Speaker 1: to be that again. If you want to be in
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Speaker 1: the business of creating an independent and resilient human being,
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Speaker 1: which is the job of a parent, that life that
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Speaker 1: you had is wonderfully and happily over. Write it down
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Speaker 1: at a piece of paper, folded up in a paper
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Speaker 1: boat and pushed out of the Brisbane River. Off it
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Speaker 1: goes goodbye. And that's fine because you get to write
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Speaker 1: a whole new story. But the people that I know
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Speaker 1: who have struggled have struggled with trying to hold on
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Speaker 1: to what it was and try to have kids that
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Speaker 1: are good human beings at the same time and have
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Speaker 1: resentment around the fact that these kids get in the
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Speaker 1: way of what it is, ever it is they wanted
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Speaker 1: to do. But I think that's a struggle for a
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Speaker 1: lot of people.
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Speaker 2: Acceptance is hard. If you could spend an hour with
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Speaker 2: your kids at any age, given that you've now got
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Speaker 2: a three year old but also an eighteen year old,
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Speaker 2: so you're spending the entire spectrum of childhood. If you
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Speaker 2: could spend an hour with your kids at any age,
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Speaker 2: maybe even into adulthood, what age would you choose and why?
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess let's say sometime in the
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Speaker 1: late twenties, they take a couple of weeks off their
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Speaker 1: busy lives and we go on some adventure somewhere together,
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Speaker 1: and I get to see them as the independent adults,
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Speaker 1: exploring an environment in a world or a country or
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Speaker 1: city or a place that I've never been to and
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Speaker 1: they've never been to. But I get to see all
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Speaker 1: the work that Audrey and I and they have done
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Speaker 1: in action in the field, and just to get to go, well,
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Speaker 1: look at you, look at you negotiate a cab price
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Speaker 1: in Helsinkie. Nice.
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Speaker 2: Well it wasn't our, but I reckon the week sounds
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Speaker 2: like a lot more fun. I'm going to let that pass, Osha.
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Speaker 2: What's the ultimate joy for you as a dad?
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Speaker 1: The ultimate joy? And let me get it out and
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Speaker 1: then let me get to the last part. The ultimate joy.
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Speaker 1: The ultimate joy is being with the fact that it's
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Speaker 1: no longer about me. Is that it's no longer about me.
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Speaker 1: I am no longer number one. And that is not
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Speaker 1: to say that I'm a humble human being, except in
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Speaker 1: this role of fatherhood. It is because I'm a selfish,
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Speaker 1: selfish person. I'm an alcoholic, I'm twelve years sober. My
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Speaker 1: entire career has been I don't care what you're doing,
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Speaker 1: but I'm just going to just keep charging ahead like
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Speaker 1: a Japanese buller train. I'm just going to go for
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Speaker 1: this and I get it. I've got it in my
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Speaker 1: career is because of that, and now I have to
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Speaker 1: just be with that stops. I have to be okay
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Speaker 1: with that and who I get to become because of that?
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Speaker 1: Who I get to be like the fact that I
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Speaker 1: am kind of almost being Crowbard into. Mate, You're going
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Speaker 1: to have to stop being selfish about everything because it's
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Speaker 1: no longer about you. Who I get to be now
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Speaker 1: because of that is great. And trust me, selfish me
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Speaker 1: still shows up twenty times a day, he really does,
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Speaker 1: and it's a battle. But I think for me that's
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Speaker 1: the best part, because who I get to be as
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Speaker 1: a human has changed. And that was like, for me,
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Speaker 1: that's it, It's who I get to become.
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Speaker 2: What's that thing that your parents always said that you
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Speaker 2: swore you would never say, but every time you open
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Speaker 2: in your mouth, it comes out anyway.
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Speaker 1: Oh man. It came out early on with g and
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Speaker 1: I caught myself saying it, and I was just disgusted
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Speaker 1: that it came out around your school fees don't pay
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Speaker 1: for themselves.
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Speaker 2: Mate, that's so good, that's so good.
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Speaker 1: And I was like, I can't believe I just used
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Speaker 1: that as a reason for why you should do the
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Speaker 1: dishes or whatever. This is real early, This is like
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Speaker 1: really really early. And I was like, Oh, I'm god,
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Speaker 1: really that's gonna I'm going to have to do some
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Speaker 1: work to come back from that. You know, this is
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Speaker 1: a long time ago.
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Speaker 2: It's a great one. You've got a stepdaughter who's an adult,
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Speaker 2: You've got a three year old, so this might be
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Speaker 2: a bit tricky to answer. You might need to answer
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Speaker 2: it for both of them. But what's your kid's favorite
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Speaker 2: thing to do with you?
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Speaker 1: Anyone that has teenagers understands that that is a very
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Speaker 1: very small list. Yeah, that's right, which is good because
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Speaker 1: it means you've done your job right. I think she
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Speaker 1: enjoys watching rugby league with me. I enjoy watching rugby
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Speaker 1: league with her. Who's your team Queensland? And I say,
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Speaker 1: I think essentially, I don't know. I just really like
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Speaker 1: the way Penrith play. Even though I'm from the East
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Speaker 1: to Sydney. I live in the East of Sydney and
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Speaker 1: broncos with the Brisbane team. I just like the way
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Speaker 1: that Penrith play. I don't necessarily have our team. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate great gameplay, but geez all raiders all the time? Wow?
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Speaker 2: Okay, and what about Wolfing favorite thing for Wolfe to
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Speaker 2: do with you?
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Speaker 1: We have a cargo bike that is brilliant and it
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Speaker 1: fits the three of us. Carries two hundred kilos. It's
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Speaker 1: got a motor and two batteries, so it can take
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Speaker 1: me and wolf and Audrey like proper like Southeast Asian style,
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Speaker 1: the three of us on the bike and it can
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Speaker 1: take us and the beach umbrella and all the toys
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Speaker 1: and everything, down to the beach and back again, and
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Speaker 1: you know, down to the park and back again, and
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Speaker 1: it's unreal. And whenever we get on the big bike,
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Speaker 1: we we call it a big bike. It's just the
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Speaker 1: best time. And we have the most wonderful, wonderful time together.
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Speaker 1: And I love it. He's got his own little tutor
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Speaker 1: horn because whenever we go up the hills, I'm like, man,
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Speaker 1: I need some help here, so he teaches little It's
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Speaker 1: like an old school kind of horn. We have the
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Speaker 1: best time ever. I love that.
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Speaker 2: Osha. What are you most looking forward to.
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Speaker 1: As a dad? Like? It's the same as everybody's bedtime.
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Speaker 2: Nobody said that before.
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Speaker 1: That's great.
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Speaker 2: If you could go back to you as a young dad,
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Speaker 2: struggling clueless, right, whether you're dealing with a step daughter
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Speaker 2: or you've just got a brand new kiddo and you
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Speaker 2: sleep deprived and you need that bedtime. What advice would
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Speaker 2: you give to yourself as a as a clueless, not
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Speaker 2: quite understanding what's really going on, out of control, burnt
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Speaker 2: out tide whatever.
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Speaker 1: Dad, systematize their repetitive tasks and make them habits and
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Speaker 1: no empty hands, never get caught behind treat your house
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Speaker 1: like a I don't know, like a busy cafe. Like
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Speaker 1: make sure you do closed right all right, close means okay,
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Speaker 1: all its tables are clean, all the dishes are done,
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Speaker 1: all the bottles are sterilized, all the laundry that needs
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Speaker 1: to get done does. It's seriously never ending ordery. So
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Speaker 1: wherever you are in the laundry cycle, like as much
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Speaker 1: of it as is in process, what machines are going
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Speaker 1: to run over at night, just make that a part
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Speaker 1: of it, like systemize it, systemize it systemized, Like this
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Speaker 1: is what I do before, but this is what I do,
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Speaker 1: whatever I cup, this is what I do the moment
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Speaker 1: I get down from a nap. And just make it
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Speaker 1: a part of your day because I got caught. I've
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Speaker 1: been caught behind so many times, like suddenly there's christ
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Speaker 1: I know there's no bottles, or I haven't got enough
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Speaker 1: of this, or I need to go to this chop
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Speaker 1: for that or whatever. Just just systematize that stuff and
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Speaker 1: that way, when you're super tired, you know, it's just
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Speaker 1: a habit. You just do it.
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Speaker 2: Hey, oh show, this is the last question you got
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Speaker 2: to mate. What's your biggest win as a dad.
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Speaker 1: At this point, it would be that Audery and I
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Speaker 1: were able to support her eldest Georgia through an extraordinarily
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Speaker 1: difficult last few years of high school that involved lockdowns,
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Speaker 1: not seeing her friends, not having her the teenage experience
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Speaker 1: that anyone else that ever had to see this young
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Speaker 1: woman who's just powering through the world. It was such
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Speaker 1: a clear goal of what she wants to do to
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Speaker 1: man like, bear in mind, most of this is ordinery.
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Speaker 1: But I'm grateful that I've got to play a part
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Speaker 1: in helping this, you know, just support this beautiful, incredibly talented,
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Speaker 1: smart human being, you know, become who she is. I
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Speaker 1: just threw a lot of got to be around that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, launching the adulthood great stuff. And hey, really really
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Speaker 2: great to talk to you, super that you've been so
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Speaker 2: generous and shared what you have.
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Speaker 1: If all else fails, and you've got to remember, justin
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Speaker 1: if all else fails, if everything's going absolutely bonkers, you
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Speaker 1: just pull out your home and melodica. This is the
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Speaker 1: exact instrument that Joff Bush plays the intro theme of
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Speaker 1: the Blue television show on and so if you're having
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Speaker 1: a total meltdown, you just move out there. Justin pusha
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Speaker 1: and then the kids go like, what what ever just happened?
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Speaker 1: They forget everything, and then you bang dinner.
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Speaker 1: Sick? Yes, I've got bumbworves proof