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Hutton & Withrow: Braves-Phillies Playoff Drama, JJ McCarthy Trade & College Football Picks | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 2: are we good to go to Jason now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, perfect. Oh, great. Jason Foster joins us.
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  Speaker 2: I was doing research on David Crockett over there. I
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  Speaker 2: got lost in it for a second. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: there's Jason waiting on us.
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  Speaker 1: From the press box.
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  Speaker 2: From the press box at the Braves-Phillies game. Jason Foster, sportandstate.com.
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  Speaker 2: doing a great job covering Major League Baseball on with
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  Speaker 2: us right now.
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  Speaker 1: Jason, how are you, man?
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate you doing this while you're covering this series.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing great.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a fan of this series format right now
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  Speaker 1: where you've got three at home and you don't have to–
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  Speaker 1: it feels like everyone's wanting a five-game series. Why won't
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  Speaker 1: Major League Baseball give that to us?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it just comes down to, like, not
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  Speaker 4: having the postseason go too far into November. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: there is a good case to have the wild card
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  Speaker 4: series be best three out of five, and then have
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  Speaker 4: the Division Series be a best of seven, like the
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  Speaker 4: Championship Series and the World Series. I know a lot
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  Speaker 4: of fans definitely want that. I'm kind of indifferent toward
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  Speaker 4: a five-game wildcard series, but it's a three-game best of
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  Speaker 4: three is definitely a lot better than what it used
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  Speaker 4: to be, which was the one game which anything can
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  Speaker 4: happen and really wasn't fair. So I'm okay with.
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  Speaker 1: The way it is. What do the players say about it?
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  Speaker 4: I think they have very similar feelings. They prefer anything
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  Speaker 4: other than just one game. And they also don't want
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  Speaker 4: the postseason to go too far into November. So I
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  Speaker 4: think they're okay with it. And they would probably tell
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  Speaker 4: you it's just more incentive to win your division and
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  Speaker 4: have one of the top two best records so you
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  Speaker 4: don't have to play the wildcard series.
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  Speaker 2: And that's where my problem arises. It's not about three-game
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  Speaker 2: series for wildcard teams. It's about the Braves winning 96
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  Speaker 2: games and winning a division and a tough division and
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  Speaker 2: a record that would have got them in a great
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  Speaker 2: spot in the American League and being forced to play
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  Speaker 2: a three-game series to start it. We have got to
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  Speaker 2: do something in baseball. I don't know what you do
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  Speaker 2: with the numbers. You add a team or do this.
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  Speaker 2: Wildcard teams should play wildcard teams in the wildcard.
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  Speaker 1: Round, Jason.
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  Speaker 2: I cannot stand division champions being forced to play in
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  Speaker 2: the wildcard round and just taking the top two records
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  Speaker 2: of division champions to get the bye. Where do you
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  Speaker 2: stand on that? And do you feel like the Braves
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  Speaker 2: or another division champ would have the argument that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it would be great if we got a buy to
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  Speaker 2: that best-of-five series for winning a division after a 162-game schedule.
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  Speaker 4: I would agree with that. I think there has to
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  Speaker 4: be a better way to reward division winners, and I
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  Speaker 4: think you'll probably see that as some component of the
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  Speaker 4: upcoming collective bargaining agreement. I don't know what that might
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  Speaker 4: look like. There's been ideas of having the top seed
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  Speaker 4: get to choose their opponent or the third division winner
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  Speaker 4: or the division winner with the lowest record to come
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  Speaker 4: in with one win already in hand like they do
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  Speaker 4: in Japan. So there's a lot of ideas out there.
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  Speaker 4: So I would not be at all surprised to see
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  Speaker 4: that addressed in the CBA.
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching the game yesterday. I'm a giant Braves fan.
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  Speaker 2: And what struck me was it was a great moment
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  Speaker 2: with Austin Riley that you saw live.
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  Speaker 1: And it was very loud in that moment.
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  Speaker 2: But I was at a series in late June against
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  Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers that had better atmosphere and a better
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  Speaker 2: crowd on a Friday night in the regular season than
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  Speaker 2: what we saw for a mid-afternoon start on a Tuesday
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  Speaker 2: afternoon in Atlanta. And I know you wrote about this
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  Speaker 2: at Sporting State as well, Jason, but that is an issue.
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  Speaker 2: And this is not something new. You know, days during
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  Speaker 2: the week, during the middle of the day in Major
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  Speaker 2: League Baseball playoffs has been going on forever. But to
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  Speaker 2: have the Braves and Phillies in that time slot for
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  Speaker 2: possibly three straight days in this series, what do you
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  Speaker 2: make of that decision by Major League Baseball?
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  Speaker 4: Well, MLB says obviously someone has to have the first
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  Speaker 4: game slot and there's going to be fan bases unhappy
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  Speaker 4: no matter what. And they factor in things like the
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  Speaker 4: time zone of the teams and where the game is
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  Speaker 4: and the potential draw that it's going to bring. But
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  Speaker 4: like you said, when you have a marquee matchup like
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  Speaker 4: the Braves and Phillies, two huge rivals who have postseason
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  Speaker 4: beef not that long ago, there's just all kinds of
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  Speaker 4: narratives that kind of lend themselves to or lends the
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  Speaker 4: game to a more prominent time slot. Two o'clock in
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  Speaker 4: the afternoon is, is just bad on all fronts. You know,
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  Speaker 4: if you're in school, you can't watch it. If you're
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  Speaker 4: at work, you probably can't watch it and you can't
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  Speaker 4: come to the game in most cases, which is why
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't a sell yesterday. It was a little over 30,000,
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  Speaker 4: which was better than I expected because like 45 minutes
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  Speaker 4: before the game, I was looking out and it was,
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  Speaker 4: it was a skip carry used to say it was
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  Speaker 4: a partial sellout. And it was just, it was just
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  Speaker 4: not a, It was not a good look at that time,
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  Speaker 4: but the crowd did fill in nicely. And I saw
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  Speaker 4: something on X this morning that yesterday's crowd was actually,
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  Speaker 4: I think, the third highest game one crowd ever since
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  Speaker 4: they started the current wildcard format. And so it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: a terrible crowd, but I agree with you. It could
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  Speaker 4: have been better. And I think if it was even
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  Speaker 4: a five o'clock start, you would have seen a much
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  Speaker 4: better crowd.
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  Speaker 2: Well, one broadcast question for you, too, and I'll turn
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  Speaker 2: it back over to Hutton then. And I know you're
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  Speaker 2: not watching the broadcast while you're actually there in the
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  Speaker 2: building in the press box covering the game. But NBC's
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  Speaker 2: decision to bring the hometown announcers in to call the
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  Speaker 2: game with two color guys. And I know they had,
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  Speaker 2: I think Joey Votto was the third analyst.
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  Speaker 1: But C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Nikowski, who I think does a great job with Braves
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  Speaker 2: Vision covering the Braves. But I've watched and heard C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Nikowski all season with the Braves. John Kruk with the
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  Speaker 2: Phillies broadcast. And they're there together. I just feel like
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  Speaker 2: if you're going to be truly big time with Major
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  Speaker 2: League Baseball and your commitment, if you're NBC, you have
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  Speaker 2: a second broadcast crew, you know, for that secondary game
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  Speaker 2: or whatever it is. That's a national broadcast crew for
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  Speaker 2: that game.
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  Speaker 1: Am I off with that?
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  Speaker 2: Or do you agree with the decision to have the
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  Speaker 2: hometown color commentators call that game yesterday?
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  Speaker 4: I like having one of each team. I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: opposed to what you're suggesting as some sort of simulcast situation.
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  Speaker 4: But I think fans in general like to have a
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  Speaker 4: familiar voice on the broadcast because that's always been a
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  Speaker 4: complaint through the decades that you watch a broadcast team
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  Speaker 4: for 162 games and then the playoffs start and you
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  Speaker 4: don't get to hear them anymore. And so this at
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  Speaker 4: least addresses that a little bit. And I know they're
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  Speaker 4: supposed to be not exactly neutral. They're allowed to be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit Homer-ish. But I think overall fans like it.
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  Speaker 4: But I definitely understand the– desire to have a a
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  Speaker 4: big-time announce crew like some more prominent national announcers so
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  Speaker 4: i think i think maybe that's something else they could
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  Speaker 4: consider uh to broadcast a simulcast like espn used to
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  Speaker 4: do the regular broadcast and then they're like analytical broadcast
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  Speaker 4: i think you could do something similar with hometown announcers
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  Speaker 4: and then a big-time crew jason with.
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  Speaker 1: These start times i mean they're they obviously want yankees
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  Speaker 1: and red sox in the night gap right are they
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  Speaker 1: taking advantage of the Braves fan base that will actually
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  Speaker 1: show up to game one at this time and actually
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  Speaker 1: have 30,000 as opposed to another series where if they're
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  Speaker 1: in a different, you know, if they're, if they're in the,
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  Speaker 1: in the national league, they don't make the playoffs for,
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  Speaker 1: for instance. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, possibly, like I said, MLB takes a lot,
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  Speaker 4: told me that they take a lot of factors into
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  Speaker 4: account when they schedule and they know that some fan
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  Speaker 4: bases are just going to be unhappy.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And, As far as the Braves-Phillies, they told me that
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  Speaker 4: it just came down to that they're the East Coast
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  Speaker 4: teams that weren't the Yankees and Red Sox. And so
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  Speaker 4: it was kind of by default they would get the
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  Speaker 4: early game. But on the one hand, you could say
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  Speaker 4: if a game's important to fans, they'll find a way
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  Speaker 4: to watch it. I don't necessarily agree with that because
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who just can't afford to
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  Speaker 4: take time off work or can't afford tickets or whatever
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  Speaker 4: it might be. And so they're just out of luck.
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  Speaker 4: They have to sneak in on their phone during the
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  Speaker 4: work day or during the school day to try to
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  Speaker 4: watch what's happening. And that's no way to enjoy the
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  Speaker 4: postseason when you follow the team all season. And then
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  Speaker 4: especially in a short series like this where the first
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  Speaker 4: two games, it could be over after two games and
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  Speaker 4: you potentially don't get to see any of it. And
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  Speaker 4: so there seems like there's got to be a better
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  Speaker 4: way for MLB to schedule these things.
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  Speaker 1: So Chad's a Braves fan. He can chime on this
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  Speaker 1: as well. I've heard from a couple different Braves fans
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  Speaker 1: that did not want to see Philly in the postseason.
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  Speaker 1: What is it about the Phillies that has the number
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  Speaker 1: of the Braves when it comes to the big-time games
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  Speaker 1: that everyone's trying to avoid? And moving forward here, what's
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  Speaker 1: the gamesmanship now? What's the pitching matchups to be looking for?
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  Speaker 4: I think the Phillies are just one of those teams
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  Speaker 4: that has a collection of players that for whatever reason
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  Speaker 4: are able to step it up when the pressure's on.
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  Speaker 4: And maybe the Braves haven't had that type of collection
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  Speaker 4: outside of 2021 of late. But the Phillies are tough.
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  Speaker 4: And when you combine that with the postseason just being
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  Speaker 4: a different animal, the regular season just does not matter.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of fans just don't understand that. But the postseason,
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  Speaker 4: once it starts, the regular season just really doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 4: Everything starts fresh. You heard Walt Weiss and Austin Raleigh
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  Speaker 4: talk about that yesterday in terms of his heroics. But
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  Speaker 4: The Phillies have just had the Braves number, and I
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  Speaker 4: think a big part of that was that they had
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  Speaker 4: to play some games in Citizens Bank Park, which is
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  Speaker 4: one of the worst places for a visiting team to
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  Speaker 4: play in the postseason because those fans are crazy in
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  Speaker 4: a good way, and it's loud, and it's a tough
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  Speaker 4: place to play. Having it here for potentially all three
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  Speaker 4: games is a huge advantage for the Braves, and so
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  Speaker 4: I think that this is– Definitely the best opportunity for
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  Speaker 4: the Braves to, like, slay the Phillies demons that have
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  Speaker 4: haunted them for the past few seasons and try to
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  Speaker 4: make a deep run.
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  Speaker 2: And now they get that opportunity two games to win
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  Speaker 2: one at this point. Jason, it felt like getting that
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  Speaker 2: win with Chris Sale pitching was paramount for the Braves,
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  Speaker 2: and they found a way with Austin Riley's three-run homer
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  Speaker 2: in the eighth to.
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  Speaker 1: Get that done.
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  Speaker 2: How does it set up now with Malley on the
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  Speaker 2: hill for the Braves today? What does the pitching matchup
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  Speaker 2: look like? And how key was that for the Braves
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  Speaker 2: to have a chance to make sure they won that
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  Speaker 2: game that Chris Sale started?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that was huge to get the win with Sale
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  Speaker 4: on the mound. That was by far their best chance
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  Speaker 4: to win in the series on paper. And they were
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  Speaker 4: able to take advantage. And so being up 1-0 in
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  Speaker 4: a best three, obviously huge. Today's matchup on paper, I
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  Speaker 4: would say, favors the Phillies because Christopher Sanchez is another
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  Speaker 4: tough lefty. If not for Jacob Mizorowski and Sale, he
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  Speaker 4: would probably be the Cy Young frontrunner in the National League.
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  Speaker 4: So he's always tough. He's been a little bit uneven
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  Speaker 4: the past few weeks of the regular season. But like
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  Speaker 4: I said, none of that matters once the postseason starts.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to be tough on the Braves. Tyler Malley
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  Speaker 4: has been a godsend for the Braves. He has overperformed
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  Speaker 4: everyone's expectations. So if you can't have Chris Sale on
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  Speaker 4: the mound for a game two, Tyler Malley is definitely
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  Speaker 4: the best option. And piggybacking off that, it'll be even
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  Speaker 4: more of a key– for the Braves to win today,
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  Speaker 4: because if they, if they don't win today, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: even sure they know yet what their pitching situation is
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  Speaker 4: going to look like in game three. Uh, and that
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  Speaker 4: would a hundred percent favor the Phillies, um, almost no
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  Speaker 4: matter who they put out there, because the Braves would
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  Speaker 4: have to probably go with a bullpen game. And that's
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  Speaker 4: always less than ideal in an elimination game, but hopefully
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  Speaker 4: for them, uh, Mally can close it out today. Cause
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  Speaker 4: like I said, he's been great. He's, he's just really
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  Speaker 4: tough to hit, even though he doesn't throw that hard.
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  Speaker 4: He just has a good mix of pitches and, um,
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  Speaker 4: Braves will be looking for a key start from him today,
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  Speaker 4: not just in terms of limiting Philly, but also giving
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  Speaker 4: them length in case they do have to pitch a
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  Speaker 4: bullpen game tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: Of the two lower-profile series, not Red Sox-Yankees, not Braves-Phillies,
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  Speaker 2: which one interests you the most between White Sox-Astros and Cubs-Padres?
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  Speaker 1: Definitely Cubs-Padres.
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  Speaker 4: Those two teams have a lot of interesting players. You've
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  Speaker 4: got Pete Crow Armstrong, the likely MVP. You got Fernando
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  Speaker 4: Tatis Jr., who was electric last night and is able
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  Speaker 4: to change the game in multiple ways. That's by far
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  Speaker 4: the best secondary series. The White Sox-Astros is just not
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  Speaker 4: interesting to me. Like I wrote in my column, they
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  Speaker 4: combined for 82.5 wins on average, and if they played
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  Speaker 4: in the National League, they wouldn't have even made the postseason.
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  Speaker 4: That's not to say they can't do some magic in
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  Speaker 4: the postseason because October is weird, but I can't get
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  Speaker 4: excited about that series, and it's going to have to
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  Speaker 4: prove me wrong to bring my interest in.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, Chad, chime in on this. If it comes down
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  Speaker 1: to a bullpen game in the third matchup against the Phillies,
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  Speaker 1: do you trust Atlanta's bats in that matchup? Go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: No, I was going to say, yeah, go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: jump in, but my confidence level would not be.
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  Speaker 1: High, Jason. Okay, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the bats have been so weird for the Braves
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  Speaker 4: this season. In some ways, it doesn't make sense that
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  Speaker 4: they won the division because they've had long stretches where
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  Speaker 4: they are literally the worst performing offense in the major leagues.
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  Speaker 4: And yet they won 94 games and won the division.
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  Speaker 4: And at one point, we're up by 10 games. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 4: you saw more of the same with Lizardo shutting them
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  Speaker 4: down for the first few innings. They stranded some opportunities,
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  Speaker 4: stranded some runs in scoring positions. So I would not
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  Speaker 4: trust their offense in terms of like you go in
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  Speaker 4: and say, well, I'm confident that the Braves offense can
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  Speaker 4: make up for any bullpen deficiencies. That confidence just isn't there.
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  Speaker 4: The keys are going to be the top of the order. Acuna, Baldwin, Olsen, Harris,
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  Speaker 4: if those guys aren't performing, it takes a guy like
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  Speaker 4: Riley Jones. for all these yesterday also to have a
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: big hit in a big situation, because if that doesn't happen,
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: it's going to be really tough for the Braves to
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: win a bullpen game.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: So today is massive. It is massive. Yeah. Jason, thank
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: you for the time, man. This is a great insight
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: and glad to have you on board with Sporting State. Yeah.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: Thanks guys.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Anytime.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Great. Thanks Jason. From Atlanta, Jason Foster, bringing us all
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: the insight and analysis at SportingState.com when it comes to this.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: And the reward.
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: Hunting the reward for whoever wins, if the Braves win
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: today or the Phillies win the next two, is the
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers in the next round in a best-of-five series.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: So it's just a foregone conclusion the Dodgers are going
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: to win a third straight is what people are thinking
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: with the roster that they've built. And if they do that,
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a bunch of, I told.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: You so, the game needs to be fixed. It's broken.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: This is why they're headed for a lockout, because the
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Dodgers of the world can do whatever they want and
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: build their roster together. And to a super team, and
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: that's going to be a.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Lot of the talk. You just hit on it. This
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: could be the last of baseball for a little while. Yeah.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: But you know what?
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It's baseball.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Anything can truly happen. So the Phillies or the Braves
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: could theoretically knock off the Dodgers in the next round,
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: whoever gets there, because those are two really good teams also.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: So can't wait to watch today. It would be a
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: great series if that is the case. Hey, coming up,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: we discuss a trade, big trade, that took place in
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: the NFL. J.J. McCarthy and the New York Giants. And
• 17:14
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• 17:17
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of xxxy, speaking of WNBA, I'm not following the
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: WNBA playoffs closely, but did you see where the Indiana
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Fever beat the Las Vegas Aces last night in game two?
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: I think it's a best of three. So now it's
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: a game three, do or die. But Asia Wilson went
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: nuts on a fan at the game because a fan,
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: a grown, a man, basically a man who's probably 55
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: years old, dared to point at her after a foul.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: He was like, like everybody else in the crowd was
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: pointing at her.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Or saying something or doing something.
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  Speaker 2: And she walks toward this guy and gets in his
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  Speaker 2: face and is going ballistic. She gets a technical. The
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  Speaker 2: Indiana Fever crowd and security said the dude did nothing
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: wrong to deserve that. And after the game, I mean,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: she was just like, oh, yeah, I would do it again.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Don't bleep with me. Don't mess with me. I'm not
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: about that. You're a grown man. You're going to stand
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: up and start walking towards me? And I'm thinking, walking
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: towards you? He's sitting in his seat over there pointing
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: at you, and you walk towards him. It was a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: wild scene in Indianapolis, to say the least.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: They want attention, but they don't want a fan base.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: You know, like it is so odd.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: They don't want that fan base. They do not want straight, white,
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: older men. Caring about the team because they just see
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: it as, well, he's racist, he's homophobic, he's transphobic. That's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: why this guy is here cheering on Caitlin Clark and
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Sophie Cunningham.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That's who they don't want. Well, what they've turned it into, Chad,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: is the WNBA has turned their sport into everything that
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: we go to sports to get away from, the escape.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: You can go to a stadium, you can go to
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: an arena, and you don't care who you're sitting next to,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: by and large. You're cheering for the same team. or
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: you're cheering against the same team, whatever it might be.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And now they've made it and created an atmosphere where
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  Speaker 1: you want to cheer against them. You're doing it to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: get a reaction because you know you will. It's just
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: so petty and so just soft, extremely soft. just to
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: be on the lookout for fans like this gentleman, who's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: simply a fan, a paying customer, I'm assuming, showing up
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: and helping them do what they want to do, which
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: is gain notoriety, gain attention. And instead, they want to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: kick that person out. They don't want to include it.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: This reminds me of a soccer fan from 20 years ago.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. This niche sport was like, no,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you're not allowed to talk about anything involving soccer or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: college baseball. There was just this group of fans that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: would not allow you to join their group. Now it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: the actual athlete that's doing it, which is absurd. It's
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: totally stupid. And they continue to do it. For what reason,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: I have no idea when they're alienating their best player
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: on the planet.
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: Well, and just be happy that the place is sold
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: out and that there's a big crowd there watching you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying just take anything any fan says.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: The guy didn't say anything.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: He didn't say anything derogatory.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: He didn't threaten her. He pointed like Sophie Cunningham with
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the pointing thing. He was doing that, and she walked
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: over and did that to him. Shout out to our
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Karen Krause at Sporting State. She wrote a great piece
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: where she went to the bar in Portland where the
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  Speaker 2: bar owner or that waitress kicked out the lady wearing
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the XXXY gear just as an experiment to write about
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: it and see what it was like. And she told the,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you know, she, they had protests there after that. And
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  Speaker 2: then the protest for XXXY became an anti-protest about transphobia
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and all this stuff happened. And the owner of the place,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: the GM, was talking to Karen and said, yeah, that
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: was a weird couple weeks.
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  Speaker 1: That was crazy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: But Karen said, I had the uncomfortable conversation, said, well,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I'm on the side of the people who believe that
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: men should stay out of women's sports first off. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: she disagreed, but it was ultimately fine. But she told
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: a great story about, this is basically a lesbian bar,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: is the description of the place, right? It's all women's
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: sports on the TVs.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: At all time.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: And they're appealing to a lesbian trans crowd, okay, at
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: this place. But she met a woman who, because she
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: couldn't get or the bar was closed or something, had
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to go to a bar next door that was just
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a straight-up sports bar, and she was upset because she
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: wanted to watch the WNBA game, and she was afraid
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  Speaker 2: because it's Kansas City Chiefs fan bar in Portland. They
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: were going to take it off the TV to watch
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the Chiefs game on a Sunday. Instead, the bar owner
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: kept her game on the TV. She ended up meeting
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: Chiefs fans. And this woman was afraid because she thought
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: she was going to be out of her comfort zone
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: and people were going to be angry with her. And instead,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: she ended up meeting an older man who's a Chiefs
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: fan who she was asking him about the Chiefs and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: he was asking her about the WNBA team that she
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: was following. And the moral of the story is, if
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  Speaker 2: you get out of your comfort zone, maybe just maybe
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: sports can bring people together. And you might find something that, hey,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: this older white dude isn't as bad as I thought
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: or as evil as I thought. Or you might say, hey,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: this person who I don't think is anything like me,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: maybe they're okay. Maybe I have something to learn about
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: the WNBA or whatever sports on the TV and we
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: can get along. So I thought it was brilliant work
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: by Karen to go to the bar and write about that.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: That's the moral of the story. Hud, you say it
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: all the time. We say it on this show. You
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: don't care about the politics, the person you're slapping hands
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: with when you're watching a sporting event or seeing.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: A big moment. By and large, no. Or the concert
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you're going to, by and large. Who knows what half
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the time my favorite artists are singing about in some
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of these cases. If it's not country music, I don't
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: know what they would be singing about. Chad, by the way,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: great visit from Jason Foster, sportandstate.com there. JJ McCarthy traded.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: He was the 10th overall pick in 2024. He's the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: highest quarterback ever drafted by the Minnesota Vikings. Let that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: sink in. Wow. And he's drafted by a head coach
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: who is a quarterback developer known by NFL circles. He
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: did touch the cloak of Sean McVay. He did do that.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: But the first year, we saw what happened with Sam Darnold.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And we saw that they didn't re-sign Sam Darnold. They
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: tried to. They low-balled him. He ends up leaving. He
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: goes to Seattle. The rest is history. They go with
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: their rookie quarterback in J.J. McCarthy. Now, this offseason, they're
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: trying to revamp that feeling with Kyler Murray. And they've
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: already given up. They've already thrown in the towel on McCarthy.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: And it made me think about Cam Ward, where you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: start looking at the starts and, oh, we need 20 starts,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: 22 starts, whatever. If you know, you know. And this
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: is O'Connell saying, we know. Apparently, J.J. McCarthy had no
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: idea this was going to happen. There was like an
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: emotional conversation between head coach and quarterback. But the fact
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that the Giants are going to trade for him, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: what does it mean for the Giants? And what does
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: it mean for the Vikings, who have given up this
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: high-profile pick, paid a big price for it, the most
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: they've ever paid, and they've already said, you know what?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: We're done. We're done here. We're out.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: That's admitting a mistake and moving on and doing it
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: the right way. I credit them for finding a trade partner.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: I credit them for the quick realization of this.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Isn't going to work out.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: And being able to admit it was a mistake, right?
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's key in all of this. You mentioned it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: This is a head coach who is a quarterback developer
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: and knows quarterbacks. Made the distinction that this guy is
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: not going to work out, so let's not waste time.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: and let's move them if we can. I love that
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: for the Vikings. Look, it helps that the Vikings are
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: off to a good start, too, also, right? They look
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: smarter because they're doing well, and they've got a really
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: good defense and all those things, but it does make
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: me also think about Cam Ward and how soon is
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: too soon, how late is too late to let it continue, right?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: All these questions now of, boy, every sign is that
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: it's not going to work out, but Do you continue
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: to allow for good signs to happen with him moving forward?
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's time, if you're going to look your
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: team in the eyes and say, I'm trying to give
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you guys a chance to win games and climb out
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: of this 0-3 hole, you've got to make a move
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: at quarterback because it's one move that you can make.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: And you've got a veteran guy who I think could
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: be one of the better backups in the league than
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Mitch Trubisky, especially with his knowledge of Brian Dayball's system
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: that's waiting in the wings ready to go.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: Look, I think it's time for Cam Ward, but the
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Titans also aren't coached by a quarterback guru. They're coached
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: by a defensive-minded head coach in Robert Sala, who ultimately
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: will have to make that call.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just think about it from the Giants' perspective.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: The signing bonus has already been paid. They got him
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: for a fifth-round pick for a guy that was drafted
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: 10th overall. He had the torn meniscus in his first year. Chad,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he only started 10 games. He threw 11 touchdowns and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: 12 picks. And 6-4, I believe, was the overall record.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: They just said, see ya. Because Kyler Murray came in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and said, yeah, this isn't a battle. I'm going to
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: win this job. And he did. We'll see. He's on
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: a one-year deal. And McCarthy's under contracts until 2027, so
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: they've got another year with him in New York. Of course,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: you've got Dart. But again, for this year, I like
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: the aggressive play. And if you need him, you play him.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But if not, stick with Jameis. And hope you play
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the Titans every week. He's 1-0.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Jameis Winston's 1-0. He had that one nice run, too,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: where he sidestepped a guy running down the field. So
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you ride Jameis until the end. Did you hear what
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: he said postgame? He's a lunatic when he talks. It's hilarious, though,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the way he speaks. He's like, this reminded me of camp.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: First day of camp. Pouring rain.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: No energy. Nobody cared about that practice.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: But that was like a game.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: That was like today. If he's just going into it,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm like, dude.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: There's so many non-sequiturs when he's talking, but everything he does,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: he delivers it so dramatically.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I can't get enough of his interviews. He's like a
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: cool Russell Wilson. Yeah, he's like a more.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Authentic Russell Wilson.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Russell Wilson does it. It comes across as fake.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: And Jameis Winston, it comes across completely genuine. Hey, there's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: genuine love of the USC football team from their radio team, Hutton.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: That's for sure. Yeah, so this is like an SNL skit. Here,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the Trojan Radio Network here discussing what happened on a
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: play where a player ends up pointing the wrong direction.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: He did not try to slide feet first, and Stevens
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: went in helmet first, but he kind of ran into
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: Dante Moore, who ducked into that hit. I did not
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: see him put his feet out first. I saw him
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: dive forward.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: He's laying feet first. He is now because they spun
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: him around.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I want to see the replay. I don't know. Here
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: he goes down into, not a feet first slide, more
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: of a knee slide. It didn't look like targeting on
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: the replay to us.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: The shoulder, you see the guy, the spotter, saying it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: was a shoulder, it wasn't a helmet, a helmet. That
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: was the play where Dante Moore was damn near decapitated
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: on a play where the linebacker who did it got
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: ejected and then celebrated the ejection and the hit and
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: has since had to come out and apologize for doing that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, there needs to be an apology from that
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: radio crew for that. And I know Homer local stuff,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: all that. We have it here at Nashville too. And
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: they're probably never going to have to apologize for anything
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: because That.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Looks so stupid.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: And it is a great lesson in if you were
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: emotionally invested in something, your emotions can convince your brain
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: to see something that's not happening. And you could be
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: so blinded by that emotion where you can't just say, yeah,
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: that was a dirty hit. Or, yeah, I see now
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that's going to be target.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Or if you're edited and you have to be Homer
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: radio over the top all the time for fear of reprimand,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: you know? that's the other thing.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: If you're walking on eggshells after the game, I don't
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: think that was the case in this one. I think
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: that was just a bunch of guys who are USC
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: fans that are acting like they saw something that didn't happen.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That's fair.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: More of a knee slide. It wasn't a proper slide.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: It was a knee slide down. He, he, he deserved
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that hit is essentially what they were trying to say.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: And then the dude's face that he makes the camera,
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: not a great look for the old USC radio team.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Oh man, not a great look for Lincoln Riley either. We'll,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: we must discuss him, um, At some point we have
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: to get into that. Just the fact that wouldn't you
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just focus on your defense at some point, please, you know,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: get a clue and get a defense and then actually
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: have a team that's competitive. Giving up, you know, all
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: these points is not going to win you games in
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the big 10. Yeah.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Oregon has big 10 of five, their roster.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Dan landing like big physical guys up front. They have
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: adapted to the conference they're in where they can compete
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and and compete for championships. USC should be a program
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: that can compete for a Big Ten title, but I
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: don't think Lincoln Riley's adapted.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: No, it's all about building forward. They have not. If anything,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: they've just stayed exactly where they were sitting going into
• 31:43
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  Speaker 4: On first down, Smoker back in his own end zone,
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  Speaker 3: He's got Bonner, who lays it out and catches the
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  Speaker 3: ball down on the.
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  Speaker 1: 7, and he's in for the touchdown. He was not touched.
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  Speaker 1: He was not touched by the defender, Nate Coggins.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff Smoker is a touchdown-throwing inferno.
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  Speaker 3: It's 57-49, Nashville.
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  Speaker 1: Always hit the over. Mark Howard, Daryl Hammond, RIP to both, man.
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  Speaker 1: rock bet. Chad, I'm taking Tennessee first quarter against Auburn
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  Speaker 1: minus one and a half. Get off to a quick
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  Speaker 1: start here. Go with the run game. Control the football.
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  Speaker 1: I think Tennessee starts fast at home, and I'll take
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  Speaker 1: minus one and a half in the first quarter.
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  Speaker 2: I can see this being a game where if Tennessee
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: wins a toss, they're going to take the ball. A
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: lot of times when Josh Heupel feels like his defense
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: is playing well, he goes on defense first. That's what
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: happened this past weekend against Texas. I could definitely see
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this one where they've got something scripted and they feel
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: like they can go score a touchdown on drive number one,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: so they take the ball. So I don't hate that play, Hutton,
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  Speaker 2: at all. I'm nervous because I don't know what Vegas
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: is seeing. This is very similar to Florida Ole Miss
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: last week. Northwestern lost 29-23. to Indiana last week. They
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: destroyed Colorado 41-6. Penn State just lost to Wisconsin at
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: home in year one under Matt Campbell. Northwestern is opening
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  Speaker 2: their brand new stadium on the lake. This is a
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  Speaker 2: Friday night game in a marquee spot in their brand
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  Speaker 2: new home stadium that they're going to open. And Northwestern
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  Speaker 2: is a two and a half point underdog? Give me
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: the Wildcats, Northwestern, Moneyline, not just to cover. Give me
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: the Moneyline as a slight underdog at home against Penn State.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: That's going to be my leg of the parlay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: JT.
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  Speaker 3: Georgia's defense remains elite, letting up just 13 points a game.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: That's 18th in the country. Only giving up about 50
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: yards rushing. Vanderbilt's offense. has been just modest, I think
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: about 28 points per game. I really like, and you
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: also have to look ahead to Bama next week for Georgia.
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  Speaker 3: I like the under a 50 and a half at
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  Speaker 2: This is, I think, the smartest play on this game.
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  Speaker 2: And I fear, honestly, that Georgia could get over this
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  Speaker 2: number themselves in this game, but that's not Kirby Smart's M.O.
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  Speaker 2: I think they're going to get a 2-3 score lead
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  Speaker 2: and that he's going to slow it up and just
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  Speaker 2: suffocate Vandy in this game. So I like this play
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  Speaker 2: a lot, JT, to go the under on that 50.5 points.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: This is a good week for us, boys. Tennessee minus
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: 1.5 in the first quarter. Chad's got Northwestern Moneyline, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: JT's taking the under in Georgia and Vanderbilt. That's a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: $ 5 wager. We'll pay out $ 44 on that three-bet parlay
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  Speaker 1: going for the bundle this week with Hard Rock Betting. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: let's win, gentlemen, shall we? I'm going to bet each
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  Speaker 1: of these individually and parlay these together as well. I'm
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  Speaker 1: parlaying it right now to make sure that we are
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: all winners this week. That's what's going to happen. I
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: feel good about it. Chad, I like it just because
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: Northwestern's opening up their stadium. They're not losing that game.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: It feels too perfect for Northwestern.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: They're coming up.
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  Speaker 2: They played on Friday night, I think last week also,
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  Speaker 2: against Indiana. So they get the full week to prepare
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  Speaker 2: for another Friday night game.
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  Speaker 1: It's the new stadium. Come on now.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: Give me Northwestern. They're going to make this happen.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Let's check the weather as well because it's going to
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: be raining in Knoxville Saturday, right?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: I did check the weather in that game.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Yes. It's going to be sunny.
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: It's looking like a lot of rain last check for
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: that Tennessee-Auburn game.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Northwestern on Saturday, 62 and sunny. Perfect football weather.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: I like that. It's not big game Beth weather.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: For a Northwestern game, which is typically more 52 degrees
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and overcast, but maybe high 40s. But this is perfect
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: football weather.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Saturday in Athens, rains, that chance of storms, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: 84 degrees. So buckle up for scattered thunderstorms. Also helps
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the underplay by JT, if that's the case. Yes, it does.
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  Speaker 1: Does not help Jared Curtis all that well.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's looking like, by the way, thunderstorms in 75
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  Speaker 2: in Knoxville also.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I think that helps Tennessee in the run game too.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Texas is just different when it comes to stopping the run.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: I think Tennessee gets right back on track against Auburn.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: I don't think they can do what Texas just did
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  Speaker 1: to them.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I also don't understand why Tennessee didn't try to run
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: the ball outside at all. There was no creativity in
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: the run game. It was just right up the middle
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: and beating your head up against a brick wall with
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: that Auburn defensive front. So, Look, Tennessee and Auburn both
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: want to run it, and Auburn's going to have more
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: design quarterback runs with Byron Brown than Tennessee will with
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Faison Brandon. So I think this game, a lot of
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: it is going to be which defense is saltier against
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: the run in this game.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Right now, over under 54.5 for Tennessee and Auburn.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Pretty low scoring for these two teams, you'd think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I still like the under in that,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: just based on weather currently. I think that goes down
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: maybe a point or so. Seven and a half is
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the spread. I haven't played that yet, Jed. I was
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: bold last week getting the points. I'm not bold enough
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to take seven and a half yet against Auburn.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: I need to see Tennessee bounce back. I need to
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: see it that this is not going to be a
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: trend of every SEC defense they face. They're going to
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: be unable to do anything. If I see them look
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: competent on offense on Saturday, I feel good about their defense.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: from what I've seen so far this year, if they
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: look confident on offense, I'll be a lot more secure
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: in betting Tennessee moving forward with that next game at
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Arkansas after they play Auburn.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Chad, fun show today. As October joins us tomorrow, we
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: will have our September Heisman Awards. We'll be handing out.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: We've got our coach as well. We'll see how obvious
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: it is. Or if we've got some close debate, especially
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: when it comes to coach. Maybe not player, at least
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: not yet. We'll be back at it 8 o'clock Eastern
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