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Darren Indyke And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 4) (10/8/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
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  Speaker 1: where he left off with a Darren Indyk transcript from
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  Speaker 1: his trip to Congress. Question, in addition to the defense counsel,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein hire private investigators? Answer, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that Mr. Epstein hired private investigators. I believe the defense
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  Speaker 1: counsel hired private investigators. Question, who were the private investigators? Answer, sorry,
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  Speaker 1: Roy Black, I want to add to that. Roy Black
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  Speaker 1: was part of this as well. Question, why was, were defense,
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  Speaker 1: or I believe, were private investigators hired? Why were private
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  Speaker 1: investigators hired? Answer, not being a criminal defense attorney and
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  Speaker 1: not being participating at the time they did this because
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  Speaker 1: I came in, I didn't hear anything about the allegations
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  Speaker 1: until about 2006 or so. Many of the attorneys, much
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  Speaker 1: of the attorney's work had already been done by that time, including,
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  Speaker 1: I think, the hiring of private investigators. So the actual
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  Speaker 1: reason that they hired the private investigators as to why,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But I think my assumption at the
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  Speaker 1: time was that that's kind of what you do as
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  Speaker 1: a criminal defense attorney. You bring on a private investigator
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  Speaker 1: to find out information so that you can have a
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  Speaker 1: full idea of what you're offending. Question for the record,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever work with these private investigators? Answer, at
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  Speaker 1: some point I did communicate with private investigators, I think
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  Speaker 1: for payment, and I'm sure I must have had conversations
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  Speaker 1: at some point. In the process, not early on, but
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  Speaker 1: I just don't remember. Question, but you yourself, as far
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  Speaker 1: as the work that the private investigators were conducting, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't direct them? Question or answer for the criminal work
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  Speaker 1: that you're talking about, absolutely not. Question, and earlier you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that you never socialized with the investigators. Answer, yes. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein ever invite you to social events? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I was invited one time, and it was the only time.
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  Speaker 1: to not a social event with him, frankly, but it
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  Speaker 1: was a Victoria's Secret fashion show. I was invited one time,
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  Speaker 1: and that was the only time. I think I saw
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  Speaker 1: him there once, but I certainly didn't socialize with him there.
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  Speaker 1: And it wasn't just me. It was me, Jeff Shands,
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  Speaker 1: who I work with, so the attorneys were invited. But
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  Speaker 1: other than that, no, I was never invited to a dinner.
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  Speaker 1: I was never invited to a show. I was never
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  Speaker 1: invited to a movie or anything with him, no. Questioned,
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  Speaker 1: And I want to return back to the statement that
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  Speaker 1: you provided for Epstein's defense. Is it true that you
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  Speaker 1: made Epstein the godfather of your children? Answer, yes. It
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  Speaker 1: was an honorary appellation. I had no expectation because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have that kind of relationship with him. But I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to show gratitude, do something to show gratitude for
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  Speaker 1: how he helped my wife and I have children. And
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  Speaker 1: so I asked him, would it be okay? And he
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't have any obligation to do anything but, you know,
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  Speaker 1: as a way of honoring him. and if I can
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  Speaker 1: make him honorary godfather, and I did so. Question, based
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  Speaker 1: on your testimony, your children did not have any relationship
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  Speaker 1: with Mr. Epstein. Answer, no, I think in total, they
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  Speaker 1: met him twice in the office, and they were very, very,
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  Speaker 1: very young at the time. My wife was there, they
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  Speaker 1: were in the office, I think two times. Question, would
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  Speaker 1: you have entrusted Mr. Epstein to care for your children? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: to care for my children? I wouldn't have trusted anybody
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  Speaker 1: to care for my children. Question, who is Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell was an associate of Jeffrey Epstein. Question, when
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  Speaker 1: did you first meet Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer, sometime after I
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  Speaker 1: started working representing the U.S. Department of State. As far
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  Speaker 1: as I can remember, I was working with Jeffrey Epstein
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  Speaker 1: when he was president and we became friends in 96. Question,
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  Speaker 1: and before the end of the war? Again, in the end,
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  Speaker 1: I had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein that was a very,
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  Speaker 1: very positive relationship. In Dyke, and then he actually brought
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  Speaker 1: a couple of older people to my office, and they
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  Speaker 1: were very helpful to me. The households were managed properly,
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  Speaker 1: they were supplied properly, that the employees were doing the
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  Speaker 1: cleaning and things like that, that was my understanding of
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  Speaker 1: her role. I learned at some point that she had
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  Speaker 1: been a girlfriend of his, though I do not believe
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  Speaker 1: at the time that I was there, that she was
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  Speaker 1: a girlfriend of his. Question, and you mentioned that she
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  Speaker 1: would manage Mr. Epstein's properties. Did you ever understand her
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  Speaker 1: to have any role in arranging the scheduling, or scheduling masseuses? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: she never talked to you about paying masseuses? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: how often did you interact with Glenn Maxwell? Answer, when
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  Speaker 1: I worked in the office in New York City on
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  Speaker 1: Madison Avenue, she had an office there, so she appeared
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  Speaker 1: from time to time. She wasn't in my section of
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  Speaker 1: the office, but she was there, so I'd see her.
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  Speaker 1: I would say hello, that kind of thing, and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't super frequent, but I saw her. Question, as far
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  Speaker 1: as your day-to-day and the legal services you were providing,
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  Speaker 1: did you have any interactions with her? Answer, at times
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  Speaker 1: I did, again. Most of my stuff was very specific.
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  Speaker 1: It was transactional. So there was times I believe, I
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  Speaker 1: believe Maxwell purchased a townhouse. So I did work for
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  Speaker 1: that townhouse, the purchase of that townhouse. I believe there were.
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  Speaker 1: She had me look at an agreement or two. I
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  Speaker 1: can't recall which agreement off the top of my head,
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  Speaker 1: but I believe she had me look at agreements or two.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes she would convey requests by Epstein for me
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  Speaker 1: to do something. So I think that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: the transactional or corporate work for her. Question, and you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned the acquisition of property. This past week, we had Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Kahn testify, and he said that there were accounting work
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  Speaker 1: that he did for Ms. Maxwell, and she, and she,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to mischaracterize his testimony, but said effectively
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  Speaker 1: that she didn't pay. Question, did she pay you for
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  Speaker 1: the work that you did for her? Answer, no, it
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  Speaker 1: was done, you know, to the extent I did work
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  Speaker 1: for her, it was at the office. That was the
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  Speaker 1: authorization of Epstein. Question, would you consider Ghislaine Maxwell at
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  Speaker 1: any point to be a friend of yours? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: do you believe that Maxwell facilitated Epstein's access to minor victims? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Question, Mr. Endyke, I
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  Speaker 1: want the record to be clear, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: ask you some questions related to the investigation of Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein in 2005. When did you first become aware that
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  Speaker 1: there was an investigation into Mr. Epstein's conduct in South Florida? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not entirely certain. I believe it was 2006, 2007, 2007. Question.
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  Speaker 1: And for the record, you didn't have any knowledge of
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  Speaker 1: the illegal activity by Mr. Epstein prior to his arrest? Answer.
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  Speaker 1: I had worked for him for a decade, and I
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  Speaker 1: had no knowledge of anything. Any allegations being made against him?
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  Speaker 1: Like that. Question. On October 20th of 2005, police executed
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  Speaker 1: a search warrant for Mr. Epstein's Palm Beach, Florida home.
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  Speaker 1: Do you recall that occurring? Answer. Yes. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I knew contemporaneously Palm Beach detective Joseph McCrary spoke out
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  Speaker 1: about his belief. that Epstein was tipped off about the raid,
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  Speaker 1: since multiple computers expected to be at his house went
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  Speaker 1: missing when the search warrant was executed. Question, to your knowledge,
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  Speaker 1: did anyone tip off Jeffrey Epstein to the FBI? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. Question, when you visited Mr. Epstein's properties,
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  Speaker 1: did you notice cameras? Can you specify which properties? Answer, well,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned the Manhattan property at one point, sure, so
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  Speaker 1: let's break it down. The Manhattan property. My understanding about
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  Speaker 1: the cameras, that there were cameras, in the Manhattan property.
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  Speaker 1: My understanding is that there were external cameras. There was
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  Speaker 1: a security room, when you first walked into the right,
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  Speaker 1: that had monitors of the external cameras that were all
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  Speaker 1: around the perimeter, the outside of the townhouse. I later
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  Speaker 1: found out, and by later I mean, I think after
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  Speaker 1: things started to get conflated, but I think I found out,
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  Speaker 1: after he got arrested the second time, that there was
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  Speaker 1: one camera, and this was probably, even after he died,
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  Speaker 1: that he had one camera, he had a safe room,
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  Speaker 1: in the house, I didn't know that there was a
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  Speaker 1: safe room in the house, but he had a safe
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  Speaker 1: room in the house and the camera outside the safe
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  Speaker 1: room in the house. Those are the cameras that I
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  Speaker 1: knew about in New York. In Florida, there was much
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  Speaker 1: made about. I think it was in the press. A
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  Speaker 1: lot has gone on. Lots of reports have come out
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  Speaker 1: since then. But I believe the Florida reference to the
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  Speaker 1: cameras in his house. But there were cameras, as I
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  Speaker 1: understand it, that the police helped put in there because
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  Speaker 1: there was some concern that somebody was stealing from him.
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  Speaker 1: So they put the cameras in. I think in his
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  Speaker 1: desk on the ground floor, and I wasn't sure if
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  Speaker 1: there was maybe one in the garage as well. But
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  Speaker 1: those are the cameras that I knew about. Question, there
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  Speaker 1: have been allegations that Mr. Epstein would record visits at
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  Speaker 1: various properties. Do you know anything about that? Answer, I've
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  Speaker 1: heard allegations. I know of no recordings. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: of cameras that would be able to have done that. Question, Mr. Indyk,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me. The majority already has about five minutes, and
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that the record's clear.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you numerous yes or no questions. First,
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  Speaker 1: how did Mr., or this is not a yes or
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  Speaker 1: no question, how did Mr. Epstein act towards the young
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  Speaker 1: women or girls that he surrounded himself with? Answer, the
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  Speaker 1: question assumes that I saw him surround himself with young
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  Speaker 1: women or girls. It's not true. Question, did you ever
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  Speaker 1: witness Mr. Epstein engage in sexual contact? Answer. I never
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  Speaker 1: witnessed Mr. Epstein engage in sexual conduct. Question. Did you
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  Speaker 1: ever witness Mr. Epstein have sexual conduct of any kind,
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  Speaker 1: young women or girls? Answer. I never witnessed Mr. Epstein
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  Speaker 1: have sexual conduct, period. Question. Did you ever witness Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein sexually abuse or assault young women or girls? Answer.
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  Speaker 1: I never witnessed that. No. Question. Did Mr. Epstein ever
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  Speaker 1: discuss sexual acts of any kind with you? Answer. No. Question.
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  Speaker 1: Was it common for Mr. Epstein or Ms. Maxwell... to
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  Speaker 1: bring young women or girls to any other place where
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  Speaker 1: the two of you meet? Answer, the only women that
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  Speaker 1: were ever in my presence to my recollection, with one exception,
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second, were women who
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  Speaker 1: were either in their twenties and their thirties who were assistants,
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  Speaker 1: who were, I understood to be, personal assistants of Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: He said you had an exception. I'm sorry, and the exception,
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  Speaker 1: the exception is, he had a goddaughter, and I don't
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  Speaker 1: know that I feel comfortable giving her name out, but
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  Speaker 1: he had a goddaughter. that I believe I had seen
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  Speaker 1: from time to time, that I met from time to
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  Speaker 1: time a couple of times. I think because she was
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  Speaker 1: there when I was in his home, in his dining room.
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  Speaker 1: She had come into the dining room, just to be clear. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did Mr. Epstein have children of his own? Answer, to
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  Speaker 1: my knowledge, no. Question, did Epstein or Maxwell ever ask
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  Speaker 1: if you wanted them to bring women or girls to you? Answer, never. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever have any sexual contact with young women
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  Speaker 1: or girls in the presence of Epstein or Maxwell? Answer,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely not. Question, did you ever have sexual contact with
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  Speaker 1: any young women or girls introduced to you by Epstein
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  Speaker 1: or Maxwell? Answer, absolutely not. Question, did you ever witness Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein receive a massage from a young woman or girl? Answer, no. Question,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever receive any massage from a young woman
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  Speaker 1: or girl, brought to you or introduced to you by Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein or Maxwell, answer no, question, we'll go off the record.
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  Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here.
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  Speaker 1: And in the next episode, we'll pick up where we
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  Speaker 1: left off. All the information that goes with this episode
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