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How GOOD Can K-State’s Offense Be in 2026? | Full Offensive + OL Preview (S5//E7) · Cocaine Willie

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is part three of our three-part series covering offensive
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It's really tough to project it too deep when really all you
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know for sure is your center, your left guard and your left
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tackle, which are Delvin Morris at center, more than likely
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Tanner Morley at left guard and John Pastori left tackle.
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Right guard and right tackle for all intents and purposes are
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completely up for grabs at this point and getting the George
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Fitzpatrick update that we got yesterday is not very
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encouraging. I mean, I saw, I saw him moving
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around in practice. There's some highlights of him
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moving around in practice. He he looks all right.
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I, this is the, and I hate speculating on like what the
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injury was. And I mean, there's rumblings of
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what it was and all this stuff, but if it's lingering around
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this long, that's where I agree with you that it, it's not
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looking good. Like, will you ever be the
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player you were? I don't know.
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And, and, and that's, that's where you have to hold your
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breath and be like, can he start?
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Because I, I think it's actually only one position that's up for
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grabs right now. I think it's on the right guard.
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OK. I think I love you got.
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You got Gus at right tackle. I think I have Gus at right
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tackle. OK, Gus Hawkins, all right.
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So out of the right. So OK, we'll just go left to
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right again. So John Pastori, Tanner Morley,
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Delvin Morris, Center, Who do you have at right guard?
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I, I think it's going to be what's, what's his name, Dylan.
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Dylan Villa Rule Villa. Rule Villa Raul Villa Rai is it?
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I've got the media, I've got the media, I've got the media.
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Is it Hispanic like Villa Villa that Villa Raul?
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Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, I've got the
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pronunciation Villa rule villa. Rule Villa rule.
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OK Villa rule Dylan Villa rule. I mean, he played last year at
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he got run as a true freshman. So I, I think I think he has the
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ability to start at right guard. I would love, honestly, I'd like
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it for be Keaton. I like I would like for it to be
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Keaton Jones. If you have a he reminds me of a
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stronger Poitier prior to the injuries.
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OK, that's where I that's where I see him like somebody that is
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not necessarily like a big sloppy right guard, but like a
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absolute fit, huge lower half tree trunk kind of legs and
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pushes people out of the way like double teaming with a a
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center and putting his shoulder pads right in somebody's rib
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cage. That's kind of where I see
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Keaton at, but from what I've heard Dylanville Rule is a
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complete player. Like he does it all and he can
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he can get it and I heard he can play center.
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I love that. I love that.
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So and and currently what was, what is it Delvin Morris
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currently kind of slated in at center.
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He's the Akron transfer if I remember.
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Right. Yes.
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So he's coming in, he's got I think 20 or 30 games started at
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this point. So he's a pretty experienced guy
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coming in granted from the Mack not to slight the Mack but I
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would take anyone with with 3030 games started or.
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It's going to be, it's going to be interesting.
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It's going to be interesting. This is going to be the first
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season I think, and correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first
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season in probably 10 plus years that we haven't had a former
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walk on start at center. Oh, really?
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Sam hacked. Sam hacked, right?
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Yeah, good guy. Noah Johnson before that.
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Noah Johnson. Then there was there was one
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actually in between Sam Heck and Noah Johnson.
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I think we're going to sound like a bunch of K State noobs
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not knowing this off the top of our heads.
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Yeah. I'm I'm blanking my my memory is
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is going. But I'll do some Googling.
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But I I'm almost 100% sure that this is like our first first
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scholarship, like pure first scholarship center that we
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haven't like had to put on scholarship after the fact.
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Wow. Yeah, maybe maybe the position
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will be cursed now that we don't have a a scholarship athlete or
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now that we do have a scholarship athlete at at
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starting Center for. So for for the offensive line,
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we kind of went through who who you have slotted in as that
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first unit. Who do you think are some of the
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most likely candidates to rotate in?
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We've seen a lot of rotation with these offensive lines over
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the last couple of years. Obviously a lot of guys that get
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a lot of good solid playing time as part of that rotation.
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And you bring in some other guys like I mean Kyle Rockers has
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been around the program for a while.
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Like who? Who do you think is going to be
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rotating in at some of those other positions on the line?
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I think Kyle Rockers has a the chance to do it.
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I think he's positioned versatile.
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I think obviously he's basically been locking down trying to get
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a starting center position, but I think he can play guard.
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We have a ton of those positions in it and that's what you're
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going to ask me about the the concerns later.
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We have so many it seems like players that can play almost
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every position and I feel like that could be a negative.
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Like no one really has their true like this.
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This is what I do kind of thing because if if let's say George
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Fitzpatrick is 100% and he's back to the talent that we
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thought he was going to be after transferring from Ohio State.
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And what do you do with Gus Hawkins?
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Can he kick into guard? And, and I think he probably
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could. And just where does that leave
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everybody else? It it just, it seems like we
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have so many guys that could play every position that like
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it's somewhat of a negative that I don't think like we're getting
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the full potential out of some of these players.
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I don't, I don't know if it maybe I'm crazy, but like I
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think the position versatility thing might be a little
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overblown every once in a while and I don't, you know, it's just
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like, are you a Sinner or are you not?
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Well, OK, Cooper BB played every position on the line except for
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center and now it's. So did center.
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So yeah. So did Dalton rise.
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There's been, and I feel like everybody wants to be that.
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They've seen these unicorns like Cooper BB could play every
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position. Dalton Reisner could play every
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position on the line. Yeah, but you're not them.
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Like you got to need to. You need to learn how to play
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right guard. That's what you need to do.
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We need to be able to have enough.
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We have so much depth, but like I feel like they're not locking
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down a position and then maybe I'm completely wrong, maybe I'm
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an idiot, I don't know. But that's just where my concern
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goes to like, OK, do we have a true right guard or are they
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trying to be something else? OK, Charlie Adams.
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Charlie Adams played tackle. He played tackle for was he a
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wasn't he a JUCO guy or did he transfer from he transferred
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from Auburn. No, that was Tyler Johnson that.
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Charlie Adams was Cal Poly. OK, Auburn was Tyler Johnson.
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Yeah, he wasn't. He wasn't JUCO but I think
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Charlie Adams played tackle and at Cal Cal Poly.
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And then you've got Chase Duarte, who followed followed
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our guy Mike Schmidt from San Diego State.
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And what position does he play? That's what I'm saying, like is
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he a guard? Is he not?
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I don't know. And and obviously they know
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they're in the facility with these guys, but I feel like the
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cross training has gotten a little bit out of control and I
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could be maybe I'm a total doofus, like I maybe that's what
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you're supposed to do. But I feel like everybody wants
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to be that guy that oh, he's built like a guard, but he plays
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tackle and he could play a little.
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He takes some snaps at center, like come on, let's, let's,
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let's lock him down. Let's let's have him locked into
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this position. And if there's an emergency at
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right tackle, bring the other right tackle and don't bring our
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right guard into it. To bolster your point in a
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couple different ways, the reaction to most people from
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clients press conference yesterday when he was saying we
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have multiple guys doing double duty, like slotting in at
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defensive tackle, that raised a lot more eyebrows and red flags
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for people than it was. It's taken as a, as a like, hey,
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that's a great thing that they're doing that.
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And then secondly, we, you and I are both Chiefs fans.
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We've seen the Chiefs when they've had to slot in guys at
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guard or tackle that are not used to playing those positions.
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And it does not work out well when they do that.
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No, it's never works out well when they do that.
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So I, I would, I would, I would agree with you, but I, I, I
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think it's helpful to be able to have guys who can be versatile,
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but I think they should have their position that they play
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through that season be pretty solidified.
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I don't think you want to be, I don't think you want to be
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rotating a guy from right guard to right tackle or right guard
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to left guard like that. Just.
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Constantly, just like constantly like, like you have a guy.
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Do you trust? Like this is the thing.
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This is where I get, this is where, this is where I'm at.
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You say you have 9 or 10 like that was always the coin of
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phrase under climbing. Like you always have 9 or 10
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that we got to get 9 or 10 guys that can play OK, but why do we
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have 5 or 6 of them all playing multiple positions?
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If you got if you got 10 guys, there's five offensive line
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that's a 2 deep at every position, right?
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Or am I tripping? Like do it like that?
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Like if our left guard goes down, bring the guy that's left
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guard 2IN there, not right tackle 2.
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Bring him him over and now he's the starting right guard.
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That's how I think, but I could be a total doofus.
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Hey, we'll find out. I think we know I.
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Think we'll know pretty quickly if it's working or not.
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I think, I think we're going to maul on the offensive line.
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I think we're going to be super physical.
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I think Pastori, what's his name?
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Goddamn it, I'm not just Point Morley.
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Morley, Tanner Morley. That's he's got.
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I've cleaned him. Huge.
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I mean, these are humongous human beings like Pastori might
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be all of 6 foot 8 and Morley's like 6 foot 6 guard and they're
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like 320 lbs. Now that Morris in that center
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is probably the frailest center that we've had in a long time,
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but I think he's agile enough to pull at center, which
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traditionally at K State, we love doing it.
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We love pulling our sinners. So he's probably even after we
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figure out who the right guard is, I think Morris is probably
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going to be the the biggest question mark and has the
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biggest target in terms of we're all looking at him.
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Can he hold up his end? And I think he probably can.
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So what do you think is the biggest strength of this room,
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your concern, you've already voiced it.
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It's kind of this positional versatility if you think might
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actually work against us here. My biggest concern, I would say
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is probably just we're only returning 1 starter from last
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year. So there's not a whole lot of
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industry there that we know of. How quickly are these guys going
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to be able to gel throughout the season?
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Will Mike Schmidt be able to really commandeer that group and
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and get them to kind of adhere together for lack of a better
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way to to put it, the the jelling, obviously the O line is
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it get is what gets talked about a lot.
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But when you when you think about strengths of this room,
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what, what do you think are the biggest strengths they have so
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far? Well, I love the size outside of
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Morris. I think, like I said, I think
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we're going to mall. I think this could with Avery
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Johnson. He didn't take a ton of sacks
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last year. I think with his with his
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ability to get outside the pocket, with his ability to get
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outside the pocket play action is going to be huge.
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So I think the the threat of the run game leading into the pass
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protection, I think this unit could have a lot of people on
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edge and it's going to be interesting to see how people
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attack it, especially if we're going that 12 personnel.
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Do they bring up a lot of defensive lineman, more
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linebackers? And I think if we're be able to
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Rd. grade and do all those things that I think we can
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physically, we're going to wear down a lot of teams.
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So that I think our biggest strength is going to be our
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physicality. We're huge.
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We're we're a big offensive line.
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So I I'm excited to see us just push people back on the
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especially on that left side, just a a nice zone to the left
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and we get to the second level and we're just putting people in
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the dirt. I just can't wait.
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Yeah. K State was second in the Big 12
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last year in sacks against with only allowing one point O 8
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sacks per game, which is pretty good.
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But that does not tell the whole story like things like run
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blocking, positional battle. So we we talked about right
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guard, we talked about right tackle.
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We don't need to to belabor that any further.
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Who do you think is the player on this offensive line who could
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change everything? It's got to be George
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Fitzpatrick, right? Yeah.
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I mean, I I mean, that's who I have written down.
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Yeah, I think it has to be George.
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I mean, I met him in person. Super nice guy you met him like.
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Two weeks before the the medical thing happened.
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Too. Yeah, exactly.
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He looked fine to me. Crazy.
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Anyway, it wasn't me that did it, but he he changes everything
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because I got, I got Gus Hawkins penciled in as a starter.
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And I think Gus Hawkins has enough talent that you you can't
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keep him off the field. So where does he play?
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Does he play right guard? That's that position versatility
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that you love to see, but you also hate to see at the same
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time. For me, I guess I shouldn't say
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I hate to see it. Maybe I'm concerned about it.
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Maybe we're overdoing it. That's where I guess my concern
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is. But where does Gus Hawkins fit
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into that? But if you've got George
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Fitzpatrick back to his prime self that we were hearing so
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much about, like, and it's very rare that you hear rave reviews
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about an offensive lineman like coming in like, oh.
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Yeah. Especially from Kleiman, like
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Kleiman just never did that. Other than Cooper Beebe, that
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was the one guy that he would talk about.
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And maybe Poitier too, because he loved Poitier.
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And his injury and his comeback story.
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But he talked about George Fitzpatch like he's going to be
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an all conference player. And if he comes back to that and
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you've got an all conference left tackle, an all conference
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right tackle, and we and we assume an all conference left
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guard, like you got 3 all conference offensive lineman,
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you're going to be pretty fucking rock solid.
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Yeah. Absolutely.
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What would you say is your bold prediction for the offensive
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line? Bold prediction.
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Actually, this is OK. This is my bold prediction.
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We have one starting offensive lineman variation the entire
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season. We stick with it from Week 1 to
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Week 13. We don't change at all.
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OK, kind of like that. And it it would match with what
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coach client said yesterday and he said something along the
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lines of we're hoping to have our our starting five dial by
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next Friday. And if I mean, I would love to
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be able to keep that just and that's what we have.
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I would love that. I would love that.
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I would not be mad about that at all.
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I don't know if that is that bold.
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I mean it with injuries and all that stuff, it's, it's probably
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not going to happen, but like I would love to see like just the
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consistency. And that's how you and, and like
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you, you brought up that earlier, the cohesion between
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the offensive line. That was always a Charlie Dickey
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staple, that was always a Connor Riley staple.
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You start a little bit slow. You got everything together by
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around like week 5 or week 6 and then you start kicking in the
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hyperdrive. But those first few weeks are
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like, damn, do they know how to block anybody?
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But I don't know. I think, I think if we if we get
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this unit together and we do things the way that I think
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Colin Klein wants things done, we're going to run the piss out
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of the ball. They're going to lean on people
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and it it's going to look good. It's going to look good because
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they're, they're, they're big. When you have big offense
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alignment and you're moving people, that makes your offense
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just look like you're, you're insane.
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Like you'd like, Oh my God, that these guys are physically just
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wearing people out. That's what Big 12 championships
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are made of. Yeah, yeah.
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So remind me, I'm, I'm trying to look at his, at his file here in
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the media guide. But for for Mike Schmidt, remind
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me, was he, he was more of a running, he's running guy.
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He was more of a run. He's a run game coordinator.
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Yeah. How do you think?
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How do you think? Because I remember a lot of the
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discourse when he was hired was, oh, he's had really great
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running game, offensive lines that that do well in the running
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game, but they've not been as good at passing in passing
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offenses. Like how do you think that plays
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into things here with the offensive line?
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Are you going to rely on the chops that that Coach Klein has
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been able to prove as an offensive coordinator to kind of
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help up level Mike Schmidt as a as a position coach for the
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offensive line in the passing game?
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Or maybe even Brian Lepak having some experience doing both tight
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ends and offensive line over the years.
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That's what do you think? What do you think about Schmidt?
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That's an interesting take. I didn't even think about
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Lepak's insight onto both like having having done it last year
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and knowing almost like a lot of the guys that are in that room.
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That's interesting. I don't think for me, I think
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you have a philosophy on what you want your offensive lineman
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to look like. That's First things first is the
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kind of offensive lineman that you recruit.
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I think that's what his main objective is, trying to find
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guys that he what he wants them to look like because.
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He's fighting them too. Right now he's finding humongous
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human beings, and that's really what he wants, because he wants
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them to be able to push people forward.
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A lot of power, lot of a lot of real, not a lot of reaching
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zone, but just, you know, one step zone, get to that contact
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and get to this next level. Does that lead?
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Does that lead you vulnerable in the passing attack because you
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have such large human beings and they could be, you know,
24:38
subjected to quicker speed rushers that that that's a give
24:42
and take that you have to have sometimes.
24:47
For me, from what I've seen from Colin Klein, especially his his
24:51
few years at Texas A&M, he loves the RPO.
24:55
He loves that short. He loves that short step zone
25:00
block where it looks like it's a run, but they're not really
25:03
pushing to try to get a ton of extension and get that illegal
25:07
man downfield. They're pushing it to get that
25:10
gap for that running back to be able to get it if it is the read
25:14
part and then but the RP OS coming over the top.
25:18
So it's going to be a marriage of philosophies between Mike
25:22
Schmidt and and Colin Klein. But I think it's going to be a a
25:27
perfect marriage because I think that power run game, they're
25:31
going to want to run the piss out of the ball, man.
25:33
I'm telling you I I think it's going to work out perfectly and
25:36
it and it just takes years to see it actually come with the
25:40
with the transfer portal might you can probably see it a little
25:44
bit earlier, but his high school recruiting, what you're getting
25:47
from that. I think it's it's telltale that
25:51
he wants big bastards up front that push you out around and I
25:55
and I like it. I like.
25:56
It I'm I'm pretty sure he's only landed 4 star high school
25:59
recruits at this point as far as commits are concerned.
26:02
So he's back 1000 with blue chips right now.
26:06
So and I'll take. That so the the center that we
26:11
were, the center we were thinking about, that was also a
26:14
walk on Hayden Gillum, Hayden freaking Gilly.
26:17
Gilly, Gilly. So you had Noah, you had Noah,
26:21
Johnson, Gillum, Sam, heck those three in a row and before that
26:26
was freaking. He was actually a scholarship
26:30
center, but he was only there for like 2 seasons.
26:33
I'm trying to think of his name too, but yeah, crazy.
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beef for your All right. So thinking about the big
28:11
picture here on offense, when you think about the offenses
28:16
that we've seen both A&M&K State under Coach Klein so far where
28:20
he's been the play caller, Do you where, where would you rank
28:24
this as far as the best offensive groups that Colin
28:27
Klein has assembled as play calling?
28:31
Just. Just.
28:33
Just on paper 'cause we haven't seen it ranking as in like
28:40
compared to years or like a number scale.
28:44
Compared compared to years? Like best to worst.
28:47
Oh. Well, you can't put it above 22
28:52
because they haven't won anything.
28:53
No, no. And last year at A&M was pretty
28:57
damn good. Oh, you're talking about all of
29:00
his career? Yes, I'm saying as a play
29:02
caller, As a play caller, I'm. I'm going to assume. 222324 and
29:10
25 at A&M. Because. 23 was solid. 23 was
29:21
solid, but it wasn't like insane.
29:26
No, I'd probably say you're going to this might be a take.
29:32
Well, no, I I'd take this team. No, I wouldn't right now.
29:41
I'd probably put them last. Really.
29:44
I probably put all I I have to see it.
29:45
I have to see it first. On paper it looks good, but we
29:50
are lacking wide receiver talent, like high end wide
29:54
receiver talent that I think he's had at Texas A&M and
29:57
obviously Malik Knowles. And that group was arguably one
30:01
of the best wide receiver groups that we've had at K State since,
30:04
you know, Bill Snyder's eras. His first first run, not his
30:11
second run, his second run, he didn't really have anybody.
30:13
But his first run. He he had some dogs at wide
30:16
receiver. But yeah, I can't I the bright,
30:21
but it lasts. That might be the hottest take
30:23
of it all, but I I of all his units, of all his his offensive
30:29
coordinator experience, this is probably the worst unit.
30:34
It might not be a hot take at all.
30:35
I mean when I think about those years, 2022's probably the best.
30:40
2025 A&M is probably the second best or or very close 22 if not
30:46
tie like. I would say I'd probably take
30:49
that Texas A&M. Yeah, I'd probably take that
30:53
Texas A&M team over the 22 K State team.
30:58
OK. It is very close.
31:00
It is very. I mean, that was a playoff team
31:02
that probably should have won that game.
31:05
Their defense was trash, but yeah, so it's close.
31:11
And then. And then 23.
31:16
Or 24 A&M. 'Cause I, I, I mean 24.
31:20
A&M wasn't. No, they weren't, but they were
31:23
building the the you could see it.
31:26
You could see it, right? Yeah.
31:27
Yeah. OK, OK.
31:29
But I this, this is probably going to be his.
31:32
It's until I see it on. I mean, if it changes and
31:36
they're they're crushing people, then I'll, I'll change my
31:39
ranking real fast. But right now they got to go
31:41
last. They have to.
31:42
This is on paper too. On paper, if I would have see
31:45
this team compared to those teams, I'd be like, yeah, I'd
31:47
take those teams over this team. And and you've already you
31:50
already answered this, but best position.
31:53
Group, I think it's. I think it's running back.
31:57
I think it is. I thought you.
31:59
I thought, well, deepest is tight.
32:01
Deepest, deepest is. You're saying best is running.
32:03
Back, I think impact and impact and deepest, I think you have
32:09
three tight ends that you just usually don't have three tight
32:13
ends that can play. There's some teams that have 3
32:17
running backs that could play. Do you play all of them all the
32:21
time? Probably not.
32:22
But the impact I think is going to be tight end.
32:26
But I think the best room is the running backs.
32:32
Yeah. I want to say the best room is
32:33
the running backs because they're all equally good in my
32:36
opinion. Yeah, yeah, they're all solid.
32:39
They're all solid. There's there might be 3, there
32:44
might be 3. There might not be a single A in
32:46
that group. It might be AB plus BB or B
32:51
minus BB plus BB minus. That might be the group right
32:57
there and you know will ANSI, you might have AC plus and NCOAB
33:05
plus in Oakley and AB minus B for Lincoln cure or an A such
33:15
wide variance and there's so much impact that could happen
33:18
from that unit. So yeah.
33:20
OK, It's above a three O GPA based on the letter grades
33:23
you're handing out. So I think that's still that's
33:26
still above average. Do you think Avery has enough
33:30
weapons? We published an episode last
33:31
year where where it was titled Too Many Weapons.
33:36
We weren't wrong though. No wrong.
33:40
We went wrong. But one of them decided to kick
33:42
a bench and miss the rest of the season.
33:44
Right. If we had such high
33:47
expectations, because in all reality, Dylan Edwards could
33:51
have been a absolute monster piece, But this team, does he
33:55
have enough weapons? Does he have enough explosion?
34:01
I don't think, but it's a totally different system.
34:04
I think if we just grind people to death and then we're
34:07
efficient in the red zone, similar to what Colin Klein is
34:10
used to, like 1000 paper cuts. You give me a A6 yard run and a
34:16
four yard run and a four yard run, then a three yard run and
34:19
then a first down on a wide receiver curl and then you just
34:21
keep it going to matriculating down the field.
34:23
They're tired and now it's a quarterback run for 15 yards.
34:29
Dude, that is death by 1000 cuts plus an explosive weapon at
34:33
quarterback. Like we're we're discounting
34:35
like this is this is the crazy part.
34:38
We're discounting this team saying that like, the weapons
34:41
might not be as explosive, but we might have the most explosive
34:44
quarterback we've ever had at Kansas State.
34:47
Yeah. Maybe Michael Bishop has
34:51
something to say about that. I don't know.
34:52
But but Avery Jobs is pretty fucking fast, so I'm going to
34:58
say I I think he has enough weapons to get it done this
35:05
season to win a lot of games. That's what I'll say.
35:10
I say we, we, we, we might win a lot of games by eight points or
35:17
less. OK.
35:21
I could see this being similar to.
35:24
Cats, 2011. Yeah, but like what was who was
35:28
the team that was really good last year that won a lot of 1
35:33
score games? Was it Houston?
35:35
Was Houston A1 score kind of team or?
35:38
Shoot, I, I, I automatically think when you, when you
35:41
mentioned that, I think of that 2022 TCU team where they were
35:44
just my winning games, one score games.
35:48
And they were really good. Yeah, they were really good.
35:52
I think I don't, I, I think it's less explosive than that, but I
35:56
just think that we can ball control the hell out of this
35:59
very similar to your 2011. You know that, that, that makes
36:02
a lot of sense that we just, we have explosive at, we have a, a,
36:06
a difference maker at quarterback and we've got
36:09
consistency across the board. And we just, we'd move it down
36:13
the field, we'd get it done in the red zone, play a little bit
36:16
of defense, have some good special teams and boom, baby, we
36:20
got enough to get you 26 or 28 points and hold them to 24.
36:27
Do you think the wide receiver, wide receiver position has
36:31
improved from last year? No.
36:33
As a room, OK. As a room, I mean, losing Jace
36:40
is so huge. Dude, we did, we didn't bring
36:43
anybody in that replaced him. So I mean just him alone, he
36:50
was, he was a guy like he was the guy we didn't.
36:54
And he was so explosive, so consistent.
36:57
He got hurt a little bit. But All in all, he met.
37:00
He was such a difference maker for us.
37:02
Did we bring somebody in on paper?
37:04
We didn't. Did the unit get better?
37:11
Who was our number three last year?
37:13
I think the well #3 was Garrett Oakley, but #3 in the wide
37:20
receiver room was Jared Bradley with 184 yards.
37:27
God damn. I think, I think this has gotten
37:31
has got has a higher ceiling for more guys, but you obviously
37:36
lose the go to guy. That's kind of what I explained
37:39
on on Bosco's boys was you lost the go to guy, you lost the guy
37:43
who has the most. Chemistry.
37:44
I think it might be that the floor the floor got raised for
37:47
the whole room. Yeah.
37:49
Sure. I think the floor got raised for
37:51
the room, but the ceiling got a little bit lower.
37:53
I think it's the opposite because I don't think we have a
37:56
guy that is head and shoulders that can really do what Jace
38:00
Brown did, but we got a lot of guys that can do a lot better
38:04
than fucking change we might have. 4400 plus yard receivers
38:08
in this room, which we did not have last year.
38:11
We could 400 yards in a season that that's almost 40 yards per
38:19
game as a receiver. That's a lot.
38:23
I don't think there's going to be a lot of receivers on the
38:25
team that get 40 yards. And take that.
38:28
That's why I'm telling you people are probably going to
38:31
look at listen to this and hopefully we break this up
38:35
because it's an hour and 40 minutes no longer picking it up.
38:38
But like they listen to my receiver take.
38:41
I'm telling you consistency is just your role.
38:44
I, I need somebody that can get 2 chain moves, a 15 yard catch
38:49
and maybe a touchdown every four games.
38:51
And why I need a 40 yard pop from you, preferably every game,
38:58
but we need explosive from you. I consistency.
39:03
I'm, I'm gonna leave that to Tibbs.
39:05
I'm leave that to Oakley. I'm leave that to cure those
39:08
guys. You get all the carries that I
39:10
mean, all the shots you want, you're getting the ball thrown
39:16
your direction. But those other guys, you've got
39:18
to be able to make the plays when we need them.
39:21
That's your consistency, yeah. So this this goes into my next
39:26
question. What what do you see as the run,
39:28
pass split for this team? It's.
39:33
A good question. Because you're saying it's a run
39:36
heavy run for. I think I think it.
39:38
Is even thinking it could be 6040 run pass.
39:42
I don't know if it'll be that much because I think a lot of it
39:44
is going to be RPO based and that's going to be Avery's
39:51
discretion. And I think at the beginning of
39:54
the season, I think we're physically better than Nichols.
39:58
I think we're physically better than Washington State.
40:01
I think we're definitely this version of Tulane.
40:04
We're physically better than Tulane.
40:06
And then we get to Cincinnati. So I don't know if we'll be
40:09
physically better than Cincinnati, which I will be at
40:11
the game. If you want to come hang out
40:13
with me, find me. I'll be there anyway.
40:18
Those first three games, we're going to lay the foundation and
40:21
we're going to show a lot of teams that we're ready to run
40:24
this fucking rock. We're ready to run the pill and
40:27
do all those things with Avery, with the running backs, jet
40:31
sweeps, all that stuff. We're going to show that we're
40:33
going to run the rock and it might be 6040 at the beginning
40:37
of the season, like you said, it might be that.
40:40
It might be even heavier, especially if we're in control
40:42
of these games. We might just run the the clock
40:45
out. We might not win by we might not
40:48
cover a lot of spreads this season.
40:50
I'll be honest, we're 40. 2 1/2 right now.
40:52
We might not cover that. I'll be honest.
40:55
We're not going to be a better favorites at the beginning of
40:57
the season. We're not going to be a better
40:59
friend, I should say. We might not cover a lot of
41:03
spreads. We're going to run the hell out
41:05
of this ball and towards the middle of the season when people
41:10
start adjusting to this run game, I could see Avery Johnson
41:13
pulling this thing. It's just letting it RIP on a
41:15
slant a lot more than just running the rock.
41:18
So I think towards the end of the season we'll probably be at
41:21
like 53% run, 47% pass. I think the the true goal is
41:29
5050 for an offense that Colin Klein runs.
41:32
OK, OK. Offensive MVP not named Avery.
41:43
Offensive MVP. I'm going to say pastore.
41:51
OK, I'm going to say pastore. Left tackle, No sacks given up,
41:56
tons of pancakes, sealing the edge.
42:01
I think he's going to be incredibly valuable and from the
42:07
guy that you know, was, he wasn't the guy that got Mono,
42:14
was he? I don't remember that.
42:19
That might have been that might have been Carver, Willis, I'm
42:21
not entirely sure, but one of these guys got mono and missed a
42:25
little chunk of time. Either way, from where from?
42:29
John Pastore growing into an all Big 12 caliber left tackle is
42:34
huge. I love that story.
42:36
I absolutely love that story and I think he could be offensive.
42:40
MVPI think a left tackle that is rock solid, that moves people
42:46
and doesn't give up pressures is incredibly valuable.
42:50
OK. And who is who's the biggest
42:54
breakout player on offense? And break out by like he's never
43:01
done anything or just never done anything for.
43:03
KC Minimal production previously.
43:10
Oh, so they could have done something at other schools?
43:13
Sure, why not? I would say break out from the
43:25
visual standpoint. I'm going to say Brandon White
43:28
because he's definitely going to do things on special teams.
43:31
He's going to get the ball in a lot of different ways.
43:34
In my head, that's what the what's going to happen.
43:38
But in reality, what I think might be the breakout player,
43:42
because he's never done anything anywhere else, is Harris.
43:47
OK. Yeah, I, I'm putting all my
43:49
chips on him. I he look, look at him.
43:51
Pull him back up on the screen right now.
43:54
Pull him back up. This guy, why couldn't he be
43:56
break out? I mean he's a freak he's huge,
44:01
his arms are massive, his ABS insane.
44:05
He. He's more time, one more time,
44:08
just for you. God, look at that thing
44:10
filtering. Look at him, dude, what are we
44:16
talking about? When have we ever?
44:20
When have we ever had a running back look like that?
44:24
Never. I'm dead serious.
44:27
I when I saw that today on Twitter, right before we went
44:31
online, I said, what the what are we talking about?
44:35
I showed my wife. She's like, why are you looking
44:37
at him like that? I said, do you see him?
44:40
What do we then look at this guy?
44:43
His arms are sickly large. They're huge.
44:49
They're huge. He's he's built.
44:52
So yeah, give me Harris. Give me Harris for Give me
44:55
Harris for 8 rushing touchdowns this season.
44:58
OK, Harris for 8 rushing touchdowns.
45:01
OK, OK. He's going to have.
45:04
He's going to have a game with three.
45:09
OK. Don't know which one.
45:13
I'm marking it down so we can track it later on.
45:17
Biggest concern? We'll end on a on a negative
45:19
note. Biggest concern for the season
45:22
from the offense. From the offense.
45:26
I, I, I, I painted it as a a positive.
45:30
I also can painted as an A. We don't have a lot of
45:33
explosion. We don't.
45:35
We might be very consistent, but if a team, God forbid, knock on
45:42
wood, A-Team gets up 1417, what do we do?
45:49
We're fried. Or do we have enough?
45:51
Do we have enough to get back into it?
45:54
Because this is kind of the thing when you when you build a
45:56
team and you you have a philosophy.
45:59
It was it was the thing that Bill it bit Bill Snyder 2 point
46:04
O you're such you're so reliant on ball control and special
46:11
teams and controlling the clock and being in a huddle like
46:16
people making a big gaffe about it on ESPN.
46:20
Look at this team. They're still huddling.
46:22
Yeah, we huddled and we would have three delay of games per
46:26
game because we were so dead set on trying to run the clock out
46:31
to zeros. Not saying that Colin Klein will
46:35
do that, but our consistency, our our philosophy on trying to
46:40
be so consistent withholding the ball, milking this limiting
46:45
possessions. Do we have enough if it comes
46:48
down to we need to have 14 points in the fourth quarter to
46:53
win? Yeah, I don't know that that
46:57
that's I'm I'm I'm do we have a 2 minute drill kind of offense.
47:01
I don't know. We saw it last year.
47:05
We saw it last year. We had Jace browned them all
47:08
last year and we had to have one versus Army.
47:13
We had to have one. We got one versus North Dakota.
47:17
We couldn't get it done. We we a lot of the times we
47:21
couldn't get it done. Well here's the deal.
47:25
Collin Klein. His plan to wins 4 things.
47:28
Turnover, margin, special teams. Fuck situations, as Klein would
47:33
say. Situations.
47:35
The fourth quarter, so the fourth quarter is going to be a
47:38
point of emphasis and K State last year was what were we, we
47:43
were outscored by 30 points in the fourth quarter across the
47:50
entire season by all opponents. So not something.
47:55
We were very good at Yeah, yeah. No, it wasn't.
47:58
And. If we have the.
48:00
It is, but that that's false. Yeah, that's also pointing to
48:04
saying, hey, we're going to be in no offense to Chris Kleiman,
48:08
but he would, he would say that in and out of every week and it
48:12
would come true. And he he knows what he's
48:14
talking about. This is going to be a four
48:17
quarter game. And I think you have you as an
48:20
offense have a lot to say about that.
48:24
You, you control the tempo when you have the ball.
48:27
Do you want to get this thing going in high speed and try to
48:31
score quick? Because if you score quick and
48:33
then they get a three and out and you score quick again, games
48:35
kind of wrapped. But like if we get the ball, we
48:39
3 and out, they score, we get the ball, we drive a little bit
48:43
3 and out the next time they score, kick a field goal, you're
48:46
down 10. And after the first quarter,
48:49
brother, people are starting to sweat.
48:51
I that's why this, that's what's my biggest concern, the lack of
48:57
pace and that we haven't seen him play.
49:00
We haven't seen him play but that's just my pre season early
49:03
August concern. Yeah, yeah.
49:06
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individually. I'm at Bob Trollsby, Chef is at
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chef Andre Napier and Fireball. Matt is somewhere in the sky,
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traveling the world, chef. Cocaine's a hell of a drug,
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baby. We are all coke and no joke
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Wildcat country. Adam Holtorf was the center,
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that last scholarship center that we had.
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Adam Holtorf. Adam Holtorf shout out.
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See ya.