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Mother in shock when her murdered son's attacker walks free after jail snafu, then vanishes · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: has been searching for her son Christopher for over a
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  Speaker 1: month now. Family members last saw him on January twentieth.
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  Speaker 1: He was set to testify at his own attempted murder
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  Speaker 1: trial at the end of the month. Chris's mother says
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  Speaker 1: he was jumped by a man who told him not
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  Speaker 1: to testify at the trial. She believes the man was
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  Speaker 1: an accomplice of Andrew Cecil, the man who allegedly stabbed
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  Speaker 1: Chris in May of last year. At stabbing so life threatening,
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  Speaker 1: Chris was airlifted to Toledo Pro Medical Hospital. In the meantime,
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  Speaker 1: Chris's mother doesn't know whether her son is in hiding
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  Speaker 1: or in danger. I am hoping that Chris' stree reaches
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  Speaker 1: somebody that knows something. Somebody has to I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if it's good or bad at this point, I need
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  Speaker 1: to know. If you have any information about Chris or
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  Speaker 1: his disappearance, contact Lunaway County Crime Stoppers. You are hearing
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  Speaker 1: our friend joining us from wto LTV. That's ariel On.
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  Speaker 1: Stop reporting. Mother's father's out there listening now. Can you
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  Speaker 1: imagine if your son suddenly just disappears. You know, this morning,
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  Speaker 1: when I took the twins to school, I watched them
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  Speaker 1: walk inside. What if I went back and they were
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  Speaker 1: nowhere to be found. What if they just seemingly vanished
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  Speaker 1: off the face of the earth. What does a parent do?
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  Speaker 1: Do you run up and down the streets screaming at
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  Speaker 1: the top of your lungs. Do you call police? Do
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  Speaker 1: you put up flush? What do you do? And then
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  Speaker 1: when you come home at night and the house is empty,
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  Speaker 1: and you don't get that text or that phone call,
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  Speaker 1: and they're not at the table, what do you do?
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  Speaker 1: That is what the mother of Christopher Dickerson. The hell
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  Speaker 1: she's been in the search for Christopher in the last
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  Speaker 1: hours has come to an end. And today I ask
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  Speaker 1: you not to help me find Christopher Dickinson, but to
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  Speaker 1: help me find who murdered Christopher Dickerson. Joining me right
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  Speaker 1: now is Christopher Dickerson's mother, Trissina, Miss Dickerson. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us, and thank you so much for
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  Speaker 1: the help. I'm just sick. I'm sick when we first
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  Speaker 1: learned about Christopher's case because you called our hot nine
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  Speaker 1: zero nine four nine two seven left us messages. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even know about it. I hadn't seen it in
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  Speaker 1: the news. I hadn't seen it in any of my
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  Speaker 1: criminal investigations or research. I'm just wondering what your life
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  Speaker 1: has been like since he went missing. Tell me about
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  Speaker 1: the day he went missing, and then I'll work up
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  Speaker 1: to what we are asking our listeners to do. Now,
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  Speaker 1: tell me about the Daytressina, he disappeared. Okay, So the
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  Speaker 1: last day that I spoke was Chris was on the
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  Speaker 1: twentieth of January. He had facetlamed me on Facebook and
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  Speaker 1: he I, I didn't you know it? He told me?
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  Speaker 1: He said, Mom, he says I have something to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: He says, don't. He says, I can't tell you where
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  Speaker 1: I'm at. He said, because I'm scared. He said that
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  Speaker 1: I was jumped last night by a few people, and
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  Speaker 1: he said I was beating up pretty badly. And he
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  Speaker 1: sent me two pictures of his face was all bloody
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  Speaker 1: and he had had two gases in his cheek. They
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  Speaker 1: needed medical attention, and I told him, I said, Chris,
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  Speaker 1: You've got to go to the hospital. He said, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: I can't. He said, they'll call the police and he says,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want I don't, I don't want to do this.
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  Speaker 1: He says, I can't, I can't make a report. And
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  Speaker 1: I begged him, please, Chris, I said, didn't let me
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  Speaker 1: come and get you. Let me, you know, let me
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  Speaker 1: bring you home, let me do something. And he said, Mom,
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  Speaker 1: I can't, he said, he said, I don't, I don't want.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want you to be in danger, and he um.
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  Speaker 1: He sent me those pictures and he uh. We we
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  Speaker 1: had talked for a while, and of course I continued
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  Speaker 1: to try to get him to tell me where he
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  Speaker 1: was at. And eventually, of course, like the internet always does,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I ended up losing him. And he messaged
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  Speaker 1: back to me. He said, he said, Mama, he said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he said, but I was so stressed. And
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  Speaker 1: that was the last thing I seemed from me on
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  Speaker 1: Facebook was that day. He did post. He did post
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  Speaker 1: something on his Facebook on the twenty first, but that
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  Speaker 1: was that was the last thing. I'm just listening to
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  Speaker 1: the heartbreak in your voice, and it's it's hard for
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  Speaker 1: me to hear. But you know, miss Dickerson Tresina, if
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  Speaker 1: I may call you, that I learned early on as
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  Speaker 1: a felony prosecutor, and this was after the murder of
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  Speaker 1: my fiancee, that as much as I didn't like the facts,
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  Speaker 1: as much as I didn't like recounting them to a
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  Speaker 1: jury out loud, or saying the things that I had
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  Speaker 1: seen or learned in an investigation, or as much as hurt,
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather know the truth. I'd rather know every single
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  Speaker 1: detail because then I can work with that, I can
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  Speaker 1: do something with that, or at least I can go
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  Speaker 1: down trying. And that's what we're going to do today,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Dickerson. I want to know every single fact. With
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  Speaker 1: me here in the studio, my partner in crime, Jackie Howard,
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  Speaker 1: my co conspirator joining me from La Alan Duke. Also
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  Speaker 1: with me, psychologist Karen Stark you can find her at
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  Speaker 1: karen dot com. Veteran trial lawyer Kathleen Murphy, family and
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  Speaker 1: divorce lawyer Stephen Lampley, renowned detective joining us Tresina. I
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  Speaker 1: understand that someone had tried to hurt your son, someone
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  Speaker 1: had tried to kill him, and he of course went
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  Speaker 1: to police. He told them everything, and he was set
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  Speaker 1: to be a star witness in the trial because he,
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  Speaker 1: unlike so many others, lived to tell the tell do
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  Speaker 1: you think that had anything to do with the discovery
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  Speaker 1: of his body in the last hours? Absolutely? Tell me.
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  Speaker 1: He was set to testify against Andrew Cecil. Is that correct? Yes? Now,
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  Speaker 1: at the time he was jumped and beaten up and
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  Speaker 1: threatened and ordered not to testify. Was Andrew Cecil behind
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  Speaker 1: bars at that, Jane? Yes, he was. Are you telling
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  Speaker 1: me he no longer? Is? No, he's out. He was
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  Speaker 1: released on the thirty first of January. They why, well,
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  Speaker 1: they had to postpone his trial due to we had
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  Speaker 1: like negative forty degree weather up here, and so they
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  Speaker 1: closed the courthouse down for two days and that was up.
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  Speaker 1: So why should he get out because of a snow day? Yes, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand what they let a guy charged with
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  Speaker 1: the tempted murder out because of the weather. Yes, and
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  Speaker 1: this man was on a moment dollar bond. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand that. Yes, So after he was let out, is
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  Speaker 1: that when your son was killed? We don't lull. We
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  Speaker 1: don't rull the day. Of course, you know they can't.
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  Speaker 1: They have a ten point or to say of when
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  Speaker 1: Chris went deceased. We don't know that information yet. A
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  Speaker 1: mother in Michigan, pleading for her son's safe return. This
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  Speaker 1: takes me back to when I had breast cancer five
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  Speaker 1: years ago, and it's that fear of the unknown that
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  Speaker 1: is the most horrific fear you can have. That's Tresina
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  Speaker 1: Dickerson talking with WTOLTV in Toledo. Her son, Christopher, had
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  Speaker 1: been missing for over a month. Family members last saw
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  Speaker 1: him on January twentieth. He was staying at the Oaks
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  Speaker 1: of Adrian apartments in Adrian, Michigan. He was set to
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  Speaker 1: testify at his own attempted murder trial at the end
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  Speaker 1: of January. Just a day before he went missing, he
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  Speaker 1: sent a picture of himself to his mom. In the photo,
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  Speaker 1: he's bruised and bloodied. It was obvious that he had
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  Speaker 1: been attacked. I'm just going from a mother's perspective, and
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  Speaker 1: this is not a Christopher Dickerson was the victim of
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  Speaker 1: a stabbing May first, twenty eighteen, at a residence in Adrian, Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: He testified May thirtieth and a preliminary examination in Lenoway
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  Speaker 1: County District Court about the incident in which he fought
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  Speaker 1: with a man who came to the residence of a
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  Speaker 1: woman Dickerson was visiting. Dickerson suffered a stab wound to
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  Speaker 1: the back, ran from the residence and called nine to
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  Speaker 1: one one. He was treated and released that day from
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  Speaker 1: a Toledo hospital. Andrew Cecil was charged with assault with
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  Speaker 1: intent to murder and first degree home invasion. He was
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  Speaker 1: scheduled to go to trial January twenty ninth in Lenoway
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  Speaker 1: County Circuit Court, but it was postponed when Circuit court
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  Speaker 1: was closed due to extremely cold weather. At some point,
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  Speaker 1: Cecil was released after having been held in the Lenoway
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  Speaker 1: County jail on a one million dollar bond. I don't
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  Speaker 1: understand why he was released. And now Christopher Dickerson is dead.
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  Speaker 1: His body has been found. His mother, Rusina with me
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  Speaker 1: now mounted an all out search for her son, and
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  Speaker 1: now for the search to come to an end with
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  Speaker 1: the discovery of his body. And we know this thug
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  Speaker 1: on a million dollar bond gets let loose and the
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  Speaker 1: family wasn't even told he was released. Karen Stark Psychologists
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  Speaker 1: joining me from Manhattan this morning. You can find her
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  Speaker 1: at Karen Stark dot com. Karen, I was at Court
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  Speaker 1: TV as you well recall, and went down to my office.
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  Speaker 1: I remember it like yesterday, flipped on my computer and
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  Speaker 1: I had an email from a viewer to tell me
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  Speaker 1: my fiance's killer had been paroled. Nobody told me. I
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  Speaker 1: found out the hard way. This family did not know
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  Speaker 1: that this thug Andrew Cecil, who was charged in the
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  Speaker 1: stabbing of Christopher Dickerson, well, nobody even told him he
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  Speaker 1: was out. Karen. Is such a betrayal. It's unacceptable, Nancy,
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  Speaker 1: and so terrible for the family, just as it was
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  Speaker 1: for you, because I just don't understand why authorities would
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  Speaker 1: do that. People need to know, We have a need
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  Speaker 1: to understand not just what happened to our loved ones,
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  Speaker 1: but if the person who perpetrated the crimes being released.
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  Speaker 1: Just for your wellbeing, for your knowledge, for your idea
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  Speaker 1: for having to survive, you need to know these things
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  Speaker 1: and be aware. And this is an awful situation. I
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  Speaker 1: feel terrible for the family, just terrible. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: this guy's mugshot and he looks so angry and so
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he looks as if he could just come
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  Speaker 1: through the camera and strangle anybody that he comes upon.
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  Speaker 1: To testing the Dickerson. Please tell me your theory about
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  Speaker 1: what happened and I'm going to start with what you
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  Speaker 1: did to find your son Christopher? Okay, Um, Well, that
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  Speaker 1: first week I wasn't concerned. I was concerned, but I was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a little easier because I thought, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe Chris was just landlaw. Maybe he doesn't you know,
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  Speaker 1: isn't going to testify, and he just doesn't want, you know,
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  Speaker 1: anybody to know where he's at because he didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to testify. But when the thirty first came, and then
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  Speaker 1: the first and then the second, and there was no, no,
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  Speaker 1: nothing coming from Chris and there was no activity on
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  Speaker 1: his Facebook, I my worries started to grow, and I
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  Speaker 1: reached out to one of the detectives that was working
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  Speaker 1: on the case, the stabbing case, and I left the message.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get a return phone call, so I waited
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  Speaker 1: a few more days and then I left another message.
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  Speaker 1: Still nothing. Well about two weeks after the first message,
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  Speaker 1: he called me back and I explained to him at
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  Speaker 1: that time, I haven't seen Chris. Everybody I talked to
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  Speaker 1: has not talked to Chris. What do I do? He
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  Speaker 1: of course said that you know, he was real busy,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, he was just getting back to returning
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  Speaker 1: his messages and that he had a couple of avenues
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  Speaker 1: he wanted to check into about Chris and to hold
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  Speaker 1: off on the missing person, and you know, he would
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  Speaker 1: get back with me. Well, of course I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: any any kind of response back. So on the eighteenth,
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  Speaker 1: something just kept telling me, I need, I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: to wait anymore. I have to file this missing person
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  Speaker 1: because it is right now Chris. Chris isn't even listen
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  Speaker 1: to this missing So I contacted the Sheriff's department on
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  Speaker 1: the eighteenth and they came out and filed a missing
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  Speaker 1: person and I explained to him at that time about
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  Speaker 1: mbing Jump and I gave them the pictures and explained
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  Speaker 1: to them, you know, about this trial and everything. And
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  Speaker 1: they told me that they would open a missing person's
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  Speaker 1: and you know, they would check into anything, you know,
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  Speaker 1: any kind of leaves that they had, but at that time,
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  Speaker 1: they he didn't feel that, you know, that they had
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  Speaker 1: a lot to go on, and uh, that was kind
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  Speaker 1: of it for that And then of course I jumped
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  Speaker 1: on Facebook started posting, you know, Puss's picture and a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of this story and and you know, begging
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  Speaker 1: for anybody, you know, any information, anything, and then I
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  Speaker 1: contacted Channel of News and Toledo and they came up
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  Speaker 1: and did a story. I'm Chris and we were we
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  Speaker 1: were actually in the process of setting up a search
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  Speaker 1: just so that we could go out, so he felt
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  Speaker 1: like we were doing something on Saturday. Um when when
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  Speaker 1: the deputy in the victim's right, you know, Kathleen Murphy,
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  Speaker 1: North Carolina family and divorce lawyer to hear Rosina Spa
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  Speaker 1: is so upsetting and hold on, Alan, do you have
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  Speaker 1: an excellent observation regarding the tattoo. I'd like to hear
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  Speaker 1: what Kathleen and Stephen Lampley think about that. Go ahead, Alan.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at Cecil's mug shot, you see the
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  Speaker 1: tattoo on the neck. It says Ita, which is the
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  Speaker 1: last part of Tabitha. Tabitha Rose White Eagle, a twenty
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  Speaker 1: five year old woman, is in a sense a code
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  Speaker 1: defendant with Cecil because she was the woman who Chris
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  Speaker 1: was visiting on May first in Adrian when this initial
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  Speaker 1: attack happened. And she has been charged because you see
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  Speaker 1: her mug shot too. She's charged with being an accessory
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  Speaker 1: after the fact to a felony in lying to a
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  Speaker 1: police officer in a violent crime investigation. So that's how
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  Speaker 1: passionate Cecil was about Tabitha. He had her name on
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  Speaker 1: his neck tattooed. You know, I want to hear what
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  Speaker 1: you think about that, Kathleen Murphy. That's no coincidence. That
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  Speaker 1: is not a coincidence. And he was at this one
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  Speaker 1: woman's home and as a result of being at the home,
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  Speaker 1: he's now dead, in my opinion, and I think that
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  Speaker 1: they are co conspirators for a reason. I am appalled
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  Speaker 1: that he was out and this mother was not notified,
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  Speaker 1: and that Chris was not notified. I'm appalled, Nancy. To
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Lampley, high profile detective. Stephen, I can't believe. Number one,
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  Speaker 1: they let this guy, Andrew Cecil out and now Christopher
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  Speaker 1: Dickerson ends up dead. That's no coincidence. And Alan Duke,
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  Speaker 1: who's sitting in the studio in la can see the connection,
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  Speaker 1: for Pete's sake, and he's a thousand miles away plus,
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  Speaker 1: So can't the cops see that the tattoo on the
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  Speaker 1: guy's neck is the same woman Dickerson's visiting. They can't
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  Speaker 1: piece that together, Nancy, I would like to think so,
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  Speaker 1: just like you said, it's it's there. It's pretty obvious
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  Speaker 1: to anyone. And then back to the release of the
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  Speaker 1: of the suspect or the person of interest or the defendant,
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  Speaker 1: whatever you want to call him in this case. There
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  Speaker 1: have been times when I was a detective that I
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  Speaker 1: would we would arrest a defendant, a suspect place of
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  Speaker 1: the jail, and we would not know, Nancy that this
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  Speaker 1: person had been released, so maybe two or three days later.
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  Speaker 1: It sometimes it happens, and it despite to the police's
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  Speaker 1: best efforts. It was the jail. It was the jail system.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this guy, this Andrew Cecil, was charged with
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  Speaker 1: attempted murder of Christopher Dickerson. He gets out and now
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  Speaker 1: we find Dickerson's body. I mean, what more does a
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  Speaker 1: mother have to do? Lay on the steps of the
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  Speaker 1: courthouse and beg crime stories with Nancy Grace. A Michigan
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  Speaker 1: man reported missing last week has been found dead in
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  Speaker 1: Medina Township, the victim of an apparent homicide. Detectives from
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  Speaker 1: the Lenaway County Sheriff's Office and Adrian Police Apartment we're
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  Speaker 1: following leads from a missing person report about Christopher Dickerson.
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  Speaker 1: Their investigation led them to a wooded area where they
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  Speaker 1: found Dickerson's body. A Michigan State Police crime lab was
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  Speaker 1: called to the scene, as were emergency personnel from nearby
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  Speaker 1: Marincy and Waldron. Dickerson was reported missing February eighteenth after
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  Speaker 1: family members became concerned after not seeing any posts on
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  Speaker 1: his Facebook page or having any contact with him since
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  Speaker 1: January twentieth. Joining me right now is just sing A Dickerson,
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  Speaker 1: mother of Christopher Dickerson, Miss Dickerson, I know that you
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  Speaker 1: seem to blame yourself because you tried so hard to
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  Speaker 1: get him to come home, but he had been beaten, jumped,
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  Speaker 1: and it's all because no one wanted him to be
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  Speaker 1: a witness in this case. He was not getting any
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  Speaker 1: sort of protection at all. And I understand all witnesses
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  Speaker 1: can't have protection, but then to let the guy out
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  Speaker 1: that's charged in his tempted murder. I know that you
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  Speaker 1: are torturing yourself because he was so scared he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to come home and lead the thugs to your place.
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  Speaker 1: I remember you told me, he said, Mom, you don't
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  Speaker 1: understand I can't come home, and you wish to this
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  Speaker 1: day you could have made him come home that night.
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  Speaker 1: Why Miss Dickerson. Why what difference would that have made
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  Speaker 1: in your mind? Because I feel like I couldn't protect him.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I felt if I had him home, you know, his
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  Speaker 1: my baby, I could have protected him somehow. Tell me this,
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  Speaker 1: miss Dickerson, who was the last person to see him.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know that. It's like everybody I talked to,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: they it's like nobody wants to be that last person
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  Speaker 1: that saw him. They just come up with things like,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you know, well, I've seen him right after he got jumped,
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  Speaker 1: or I see him right before. You know, just nobody.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I can't find anybody that's seen him after I spoke
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  Speaker 1: with What we know is this her son, Christopher Dickerson's
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  Speaker 1: body was found in a wooded area. It is a
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  Speaker 1: wooded area I believe there in Medina Township in Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: The Tegas don't know how long he had been there
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  Speaker 1: or the cause of death. To Chrisina Dickerson, I assume
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  Speaker 1: the medical examiner is examining his body. When do you
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: expect to learn the cause of death? I don't the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: way that they found it, it's going to be a
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: long time. They As of the right now, they still
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: have not released my son's body. They said probably not
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  Speaker 1: till Thursday or Friday. So I can't even really plan
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  Speaker 1: as you alerts right now to Alan, do you joining us? Alan?
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  Speaker 1: Hearing Tressina and so much pain. I just I'm desperately
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: thinking of something we can do to help her. Alan.
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  Speaker 1: You have been in touch with authorities, would they speak
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  Speaker 1: to you? Well, we called the Lenawee County Sheriff in
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Michigan for information, but they declined to comment because they
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  Speaker 1: said it's an ongoing investigation. And also understand they're not
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: really telling the family a whole lot right now. They're
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: keeping their cards very close to their vest. Guys, there
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  Speaker 1: is a link to a go fundi page that was
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  Speaker 1: set up in Chris's honor. Just go to go fund
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  Speaker 1: me and put in his name Chris Dickerson. Hr I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: s Dickerson to Stephen Lampley, renowned detective. What de cops
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: need to be doing right now? So they need to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: be looking at that obviously, the suspects Segel and it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: my understanding for what I heard from the mother there
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  Speaker 1: that there were several people involved in the assault of
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  Speaker 1: her son, So there are people they need to be
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  Speaker 1: talking to. Obviously. Cecil is my prime person that I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: would want to be talking to. Of course the evidence
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  Speaker 1: coming back from the medical examiner, but at the police
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  Speaker 1: department level right now, they need to be talking to
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: persons of interest. Now. This is my understanding that he
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: is out on the lamb Jasina Dickerson. Has he been
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: brought in for questioning If cops even found Andrew Cecil yet,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that is my biggest fear right now. I don't even
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: know if they know his wirebouts. They have not set
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: a word. As a matter of fact, when I told
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: when I talked with the detectives on Sunday, they did
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: not know this man was out of jail. I had
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to tell them because I heard through the court where
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I called the victims people when Chris was missing and
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: spoke with them. That's how I learned that the Cecil
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: was out of jail. When I spoke with the detectives
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: on Sunday, they when I brought up Cecil being out
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: of jail, they both looked in me like I slapped them,
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  Speaker 1: and they jumped on the phone to call the jail
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  Speaker 1: to confirm that Cecil was out. The detectives didn't even know.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you do an investigation and you don't
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  Speaker 1: even know whether the prime suspect's whereabouts is. This is
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: what I know about Andrew Cecil. He is a white male,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: brown hair, blue eyes, five to seven, one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: forty pounds d OB seven one ninety one. I also
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  Speaker 1: know this in his book ind he looks his mugshott.
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  Speaker 1: He looks as mean as a snake. Tattoo lower left hand.
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  Speaker 1: Only God can judge me. Well, you know what I
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: disagree Number two lower left vertebra Halley Halley, as in
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Halle's comment, h A I L E y okay helly
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  Speaker 1: tattoo right wrist SaRenna s I R e n A
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  Speaker 1: tattoo upper left arm cross. We know he has another
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: tattoo on his net with a name on it. M
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  Speaker 1: sentence one leaving the scene of a crime two years
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  Speaker 1: six months to fleeing a cop two years six months.
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  Speaker 1: There's an impressive rap sheet that I won't bother reading.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: But he was arrested and put in jail one million
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  Speaker 1: dollar bond, and some let me just say, idiot, let
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: him go. Now we know that this young man, Christopher Dickerson,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: is dead. Now, this is another interesting thing that I
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: learned from the Daily telegram. I know that these two.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at that tattoo on his neck right now.
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  Speaker 1: What does the tattoo say, Tabatha? Okay, so he's got
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the names of three women on tattooed on his body.
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  Speaker 1: Two people were charging a stabbing may one. Okay, they continued,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: They're not guilty, please, but this is what I know,
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  Speaker 1: the two of them. And there's two a man and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a woman charged in that stabbing to Christopher's moms, Cena Dickerson,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: who's the woman charged in the stabbing? This was the lady,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the girl that christ had went over to visit. Aha
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  Speaker 1: Tabitha Rose White Eagle Andrew Aaron Cecil Tabitha Rose White Eagle,
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  Speaker 1: both of Adrian were set to appear before the Judge
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  Speaker 1: Circuit Judge Margaret No. He's charged with assault with intend
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  Speaker 1: to commit murder and first degree home invasion, million dollar bond.
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  Speaker 1: The public defender, John Glazer, says he wanted to quash
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  Speaker 1: the home invasion charge. All right, fine, White Eagle. The
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: woman waved a Raymond. She had been charged with accessory
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  Speaker 1: after the fact and lying to cops. She posted bond.
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  Speaker 1: She got out on twenty five hundred dollars. The man wounded.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: That would, of course be Christopher. Dickerson testified in a
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: preliminary hearing that he was visiting Tabitha White Eagle when
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Cecil came to the residents and he was stabbed in
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the bat Ran called nine one one. That's how this
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: whole thing went down. Cecil gets out of jail, and
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: now Dickerson is dead and we don't have answer and
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: there's no arrest. Christina Dickerson has been searching for her
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: son Christopher for over a month now. Family members last
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: saw him on January twentieth. He was set to testify
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: at his own attempted murder trial at the end of
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the month. Chris's mother says he was jumped by a
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: man who told him not to testify at the trial.
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  Speaker 1: She believes the man was an accomplice of Andrew Cecil,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: the man who allegedly stabbed Chris in May of last year.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: At stabbing so life threatening, Chris was airlifted to Toledo
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Pomedical Hospital. In the meantime, Chris's mother doesn't know whether
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: her son is in hiding or in danger. I am
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: hoping that Chris the story reaches somebody that knows something,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: somebody has to. I don't care if it's good or
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: bad at this point, I need to know. If you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: have any information about Chris or his disappearance, contact Lunaway
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: County Crime Stoppers and Nazy Grays. This is Crime Stories.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. We discover Christopher Dickerson
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was missing because his mom, Tresina Dickerson, called us on
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  Speaker 1: our tip line, our hot line nine zero nine four
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  Speaker 1: nine two seven to four sixty three. Nine zero nine
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  Speaker 1: four nine two seven four sixty three, and that equals
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  Speaker 1: to nine zero nine four nine crime c R I
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  Speaker 1: M E. I would not have even known about the
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  Speaker 1: case had it not been for her calling our hotline,
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  Speaker 1: the tip line five one seven two six six sixty
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  Speaker 1: one sixty one five one seven two six six sixty
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  Speaker 1: one sixty one. That's Lnouay County Crime Stoppers. If you
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  Speaker 1: know what this guy is, Andrew cecil I guarantee you
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: who doesn't know where he is. That would be the
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  Speaker 1: woman Tabitha White Eagle. And if you could see her
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: book in photo, she's posing like Kim Kardashian, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like kind of poking her lips out in the trout pout.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I am so beside myself to Chrisina Dickerson, did your
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: son know her? It was his connection to this girl. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: with my son Chris. Chris liked his women, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know he of course I'm his mom.
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  Speaker 1: He wouldn't go into detail about that, but I do
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  Speaker 1: believe they had been friends. And from what he did
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: tell me, you know, she invited him over. Um, you
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: know he came over. He said they were, you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: hanging out. And he said the next thing he knew
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  Speaker 1: just Andrew Siecil King try windle not through the door,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: came through a window with a knife in his hand.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: It's just like wild animals. Kathleen Murphy, North Carolina family
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: divorced lawyer coming through the window with a knife in
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  Speaker 1: your hand. I mean, what what where the wild wild West?
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Who comes through a window with a knife in their
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: hand and stabs body? And this guy is out on
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the loose and they've done nothing. And Nancy, all I
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: hear is that Chris was doing the right thing. He
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: called nine one one when he was stabbed. Rather than
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: trying to hide that he was doing anything wrong. He
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: communicated with the police officers. He worked with the prosecutor's
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: officer he was doing everything he should be doing to
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  Speaker 1: protect himself, a bag off the street, to keep a
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: criminal off the street. And you know another thing to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Karen Stark, psychologists joining me. You can find at Karen
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Stark dot com. People think, oh, that could never happen
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to me. You know that they aren't like me. They
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: live in x they didn't go to what grad school.
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah blah. You know what. I was
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: just reading about a stabbing that occurred and one of
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: the most exclusive areas in Atlanta at the gate of
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: a fancy country club. They were having some kind of
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: a wedding, soarete and a couple came out to the
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: street at the gate of the fancy country club because
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: they called an uber, and some thug comes up tries
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: to steal their car keys and their wallet, and the
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: guy resisted and said no. They stabbed him dead. They
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: killed him right there at this you know, society studded
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: wedding with all these wealthy educated people in there. The
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: guy's dead. He leaves behind a wife and a baby,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: a brand new baby that had just been born, so
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: new they couldn't come to the wedding event. It happens
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: across the board. I mean, Karen, can you hear this, mom,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Trocina Dickerson And people can sit back and say, oh, well,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: blah blah. That makes you feel better because it makes
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you think, oh, this isn't gonna happen to my family.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: It can happen to your family. Here and start. That's
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  Speaker 1: a part of life, Nancy. Anything could happen to anyone.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: And I want to say something about this mother and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to missus Dickerson, Please don't blame yourself. It's such a
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: natural thing to do when you lose a child and
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: you feel like it was your job to protect them.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: There was nothing that you could have done. Nothing. I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: know that this is killing you in a heartbreaking but
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: you need to understand that you have nothing to feel
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: guilty about. I'm sure you are a wonderful much Tell me, Tressina,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: your most vivid recollection of Christopher. Oh boy, where do
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I start? Chris was so when Chris was around that
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: you could not help, but you have a smile on
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: your face. He if anybody was sad or down, oh
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Chris wasn't having it. You know. He would bust out
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: singing dance and he did it didn't matter to him.
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  Speaker 1: He would do whatever it took to make sure that
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: everybody was everybody was happy. That's all he wanted. He
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: loved his friends, Chris. He had almost two thousand friends
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: on his Facebook. Chris was so social. That's why it
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: scared me that nobody, you know, had seen him, because
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: he he had to be where everybody was at, you know,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: he had to be the center. And he just oh,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just going, oh god, oh oh, missus. Dickerson shurts
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: me so bad to hear you, Stephen Lampley, this is
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: my fear. Um, if some idgit at the jail, it
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: by accident or on purpose, I don't know. Let him walk.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: They still haven't brought him in, Stephen, And you know
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he's at his same old haunts. Go to his mother's house,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: go to his girlfriend's house, go to the same place
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: as he always hangs around. That's where he is. I've
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: gotten so many thugs out from under their mama's bed
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: and there they are up in their twenties and thirties
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: and forties. I can't even count them all on fingers
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and toes. I personally have gone to get defendants back
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: to the jail when it was time for trial. Oh yes,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I have. Why are they not arresting this guy? I mean,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: do I need to call them? Do I need to
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: go up there and look under his mommy's bed? Stephen Yancy,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. This gentleman needs to be picked up.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: He's obviously, in my opinion, a prime suspect, a prime
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: person of interest. And now I don't know where if
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: he did run. But you're right, most of these defendants,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: most of this type of defendant, you're gonna find hanging
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: out with their mama, Nancy, You're gonna find them hanging
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: out with their friends. You're exactly right. If I was
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: a detective in the case, I'd be looking for Cecil
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: and I'd be looking for tabitha white eagle. All right, Okay,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: right there, she knows something. She's charged with accessory after
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the fact. If I had to do it, I would
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: hold my nose and do it. But I cut her
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: a deal to get him. Oh yeah, what is happening
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: at the little Way County Sheriff's office? Who let this
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: thug out to start with? Now we've got a dead son.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: If you have information five one seven two six six
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  Speaker 1: six one six one and as I closed, let me
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: ask you this. If it was your son, wouldn't you
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: want someone to help you. Nancy Grace Crime Story, signing off,
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  Speaker 1: good bye friend,