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Fictional Women Around the World: Charlie Cale · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sanny and Smitha and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I never told you a protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome
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  Speaker 1: to another edition of Fictional Women Around the World. Spoilers,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing too major. I'm trying to avoid it. The
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  Speaker 1: season finale for season two of poker Face just came
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  Speaker 1: out this very morning, and I'm still processing somethings, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying not just boil it majorly. But it did
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  Speaker 1: just happen. So if you want to avoid it completely,
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  Speaker 1: then I recommend the show. It's on Peacock, which is
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  Speaker 1: not a sponsor. But anyway, all right, today we are
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  Speaker 1: talking about Charlie Cale from the television show poker Face,
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  Speaker 1: who I would argue is neurodivergent, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: get into that more later. So poker Face is a
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  Speaker 1: mystery comedy drama show that debuted on Peacock, again not
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  Speaker 1: a sponsor, in twenty twenty three. It currently has two seasons,
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  Speaker 1: the second one just wrapped. It was created by Ryan
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  Speaker 1: Johnson of Knives Out and The Last Jedi Fame and
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  Speaker 1: features just a plethora of guest stars. I'm always shocked
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  Speaker 1: who shows up on there. Guest writers and guest directors,
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  Speaker 1: including Natasha Leone, who plays the main character. She actually
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  Speaker 1: directed the finale of season two. It is highly influenced
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  Speaker 1: by the show Colombo, which I have never seen. Oh
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  Speaker 1: you haven't, No, have you seen it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I grew up with very Matt Locke Colombo, not
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  Speaker 2: much of murder.
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  Speaker 1: She wrote that might be a ho misogynistic thing.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, because my family, my grandfather specifically watched those,
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  Speaker 2: but my dad loved Colombo.
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  Speaker 1: I looked it up because of this, because I was
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  Speaker 1: missing so many references. I was like, oh, really, m
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
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  Speaker 2: He was kind of the not the original, but he
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  Speaker 2: was definitely a big icon in that he was goofy
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  Speaker 2: and seemingly like you're unsuspecting of his genius, but he
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  Speaker 2: actually is a genius, and he's not your normal looking detective.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Well, in the last episode, which was directed by
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  Speaker 1: Ty West and was pretty scary for what is the
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  Speaker 1: usual of this series, they're the character in there who
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  Speaker 1: was an assassin did a Colombo impression and I had
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  Speaker 1: That's when I was like, who is this? I had
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  Speaker 1: to look it up, and so I watched a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of clips and I was like, Okay, I see I
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  Speaker 1: see the icon yeah, the influence, yes, and okay. So
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  Speaker 1: the show's protagonist, Charlie Kale, frequently smokes or vapes as
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  Speaker 1: an homage to a Colombo character, and it's also how
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  Speaker 1: can you catch them? And not who done it? So
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  Speaker 1: the way the show is structured is you already, as
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  Speaker 1: the viewer, know usually who did it, it's how is
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  Speaker 1: she going to figure it out? So here's a basic
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  Speaker 1: rundown of the premise. Charlie Cale, played by Natasha Leone,
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  Speaker 1: is a woman in her mid thirties who has this
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  Speaker 1: ability to detect when people are lying. A human light
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  Speaker 1: detector is how she often describes herself. She's sort of
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  Speaker 1: the antithesis to Anna de Armis's character and knives Out
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  Speaker 1: because she couldn't lie. The thing is, she can't tell
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  Speaker 1: why people are lying, because people why for all sorts
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  Speaker 1: of reasons. Because of her ability and just her overall personality.
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  Speaker 1: This means she gets sucked into so Manie Shenanigan's especially
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  Speaker 1: murders kids obviously obviously, and just to mention, Natasha Leone
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  Speaker 1: had a cameo in Ria Johnson's Knives Out sequel Glass
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  Speaker 1: Onion when there was a bunch of detectives that Blanc's
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  Speaker 1: character was playing. What was that game that was so
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  Speaker 1: popular for who?
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  Speaker 2: I don't I don't remember this Mafia, but it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it wasn't Mafia, but it was. It was
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  Speaker 1: the game where, like you, there's a trader in the
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  Speaker 1: group and they're trying to sabotage you. We were going
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  Speaker 1: to play it with our listeners, are we so long ago?
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  Speaker 1: She was one of the when Blanc was playing among us,
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  Speaker 1: She was one of the people. It was during pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: so they were all kind of locked down. She was
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  Speaker 1: one of the people that was playing with him virtually
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  Speaker 1: all right. So generally this show is a murder of
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  Speaker 1: the week show, though there are some exceptions and definitely
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  Speaker 1: times they play on the audience's expectation of what that
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  Speaker 1: is for a surprise factor, But generally the episodes are
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  Speaker 1: structured like this. We see the story of someone we
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  Speaker 1: don't know play out, and in one way or another,
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  Speaker 1: it leads to a murder and usually an attempt to
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  Speaker 1: cover it up. Then the second half of the show
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  Speaker 1: reveals how Charlie was off to the side the whole time,
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  Speaker 1: sometimes just out of frame, and typically friends with the
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  Speaker 1: person who got murdered or has some kind of stake
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  Speaker 1: with the person who got murdered, so she goes on
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  Speaker 1: to try to solve the murder. Notably, this does not
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  Speaker 1: usually involve cops, but typically at the end there is
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  Speaker 1: some sort of revolution that isn't death, but sometimes it
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  Speaker 1: is death. Sometimes. It's also very much a road trip story,
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  Speaker 1: since she's traveling across the US and she's always looking
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  Speaker 1: for odd jobs to make money, which in part explains
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  Speaker 1: how she runs into just all of these situations. One
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite examples of recontextualizing Charlie's involvement in the
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  Speaker 1: story when you get the second half is from season one,
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  Speaker 1: an episode called The Stall. This one is about like
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  Speaker 1: a really renowned, dedicated barbecue pit master who suddenly decided
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  Speaker 1: to retire, saying he can't he just can't do it anymore,
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  Speaker 1: he can't slaughter animals anymore, and his brother and his
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  Speaker 1: brother's wife are really against this because they can't afford
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  Speaker 1: to buy him out and it's a really profitable business,
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  Speaker 1: so they come up with this elaborate plan to murder him,
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  Speaker 1: which they do. Then, when we get back to Charlie's
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  Speaker 1: side of it, it turns out that she had basically
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  Speaker 1: had to work there because a dog she didn't even
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  Speaker 1: want to adopt ruined their restaurant ate a bunch of meats.
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  Speaker 1: So she was working to pay off her debt and
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  Speaker 1: she befriends the pitmaster and she gave him I don't
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  Speaker 1: know why, I can't remember exactly why, but she gave
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  Speaker 1: him all these movies about animals as the protagonist, like
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  Speaker 1: Babe and Autia, and he was so moved by them.
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  Speaker 1: That's why he decided to quit.
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  Speaker 2: So she's the reason exactly essentially.
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  Speaker 1: But it was so funny because you know, you're just
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  Speaker 1: watching it and it's it's it's a fun recontextualizing of like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: don't be friends with Unfortunately she yeah, has a bad
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  Speaker 1: track record with that, which we'll talk about more in
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  Speaker 1: a second. Another thing that they love to play with
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  Speaker 1: is the like you know, they have the classic here's
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  Speaker 1: how I figured it out monologue. A lot of times
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  Speaker 1: that does not go down as expected in this show.
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  Speaker 1: Another fun example of how they mess with the formula,
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  Speaker 1: And actually I watched this episode at your house when
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  Speaker 1: I was dog sitting Peaches, And another fun example of
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  Speaker 1: how they mess with this formula is in the season
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  Speaker 1: two episode Sloppy Joseph, which is one of my favorites.
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  Speaker 1: A young girl murders a gerbil and a young boy's
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  Speaker 1: self esteem, so not always murder, sometimes suicide, but generally
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  Speaker 1: it's murder. Okay, but let us show I love that episode. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but let's talk about this character. When we first meet
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  Speaker 1: Charlie Kele, she is working at Frost Casino and Las Vegas,
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  Speaker 1: which has just been handed down to the boss's son,
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  Speaker 1: Sterling Frost Junior. Basically, she had been using her ability
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  Speaker 1: to fleece people in poker and make money, but she
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  Speaker 1: got caught and is now sort of trapped in this
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  Speaker 1: job because Frost Senior he had there had been rumors
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  Speaker 1: about her gamblers talk, as they say, and he had
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  Speaker 1: studied her for hours from this like crows ness that
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  Speaker 1: he had in his casino, and he figured out what
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  Speaker 1: she could do and told her, you know, you have
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  Speaker 1: to otherwise people are going to punish you. You have
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  Speaker 1: to work with me and you have to help me
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  Speaker 1: detect these lies. And he also told everybody that she's dirty,
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  Speaker 1: and so she couldn't gamble anymore. If you name, if
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  Speaker 1: word gets out that you're dirty, I guess in the
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  Speaker 1: gambling world that's it. So she works with her best
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  Speaker 1: friend Natalie, who makes a pointed remark about why Charlie
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  Speaker 1: complains about things but doesn't do anything about them. Natalie
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  Speaker 1: discovers child pornography on the lapto of one of their
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  Speaker 1: top gamblers, which she reports to Frost Junior. He promises
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  Speaker 1: to investigate it, but instead has his right hand the
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  Speaker 1: man Cliff, murder her and frame her abusive husband. However,
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  Speaker 1: Charlie has her whole bull thing and knows that the
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  Speaker 1: official story isn't true. She eventually finds a way to
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  Speaker 1: record the failures of Frost Junior and pass them on
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  Speaker 1: to his father because she says basically like, there are
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  Speaker 1: other ways to punish people than the police. Junior kills
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  Speaker 1: himself and Charlie is playing for it and forced to
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  Speaker 1: flee in her sixty nine Barracuda that she pretty much
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  Speaker 1: lives out of her car. When it comes to why
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  Speaker 1: I would characterize her ability as neurodivergent, it seems that
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  Speaker 1: she has a compulsion to call bolt like sometimes she
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  Speaker 1: just says it because that's what she says, bull It's
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  Speaker 1: and she can't stop herself. It gets her into trouble,
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  Speaker 1: and there are multiple instances in the show when she
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  Speaker 1: maligns how much this ability has and continues to impact
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  Speaker 1: her life, whether it's family members cutting her out, her
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  Speaker 1: constantly moving to try to find places with nobles are
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  Speaker 1: so much be that it's white noise, which she did try,
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  Speaker 1: developing an eye twitch or headaches because of how much
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  Speaker 1: people lie. It completely impacts her life. And this is
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  Speaker 1: interesting because people like to try to dissect how her
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  Speaker 1: ability works. So it's not her reading tells. It is
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  Speaker 1: a physical thing she experiences where she just knows something
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  Speaker 1: is off, and it seems she can tell how big
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  Speaker 1: the lie is. All right, So this is where we
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  Speaker 1: get to the murder of the Weak plot, with the
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  Speaker 1: overarching plot that Charlie has to continually move and stay
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  Speaker 1: off the grid to avoid Cliff, who has been dispatched
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  Speaker 1: to bring her back to Sterling Senior. She solves all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of murders and all kinds of settings. There's a
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  Speaker 1: metal band, there's race tracks, there's a special effects warehouse.
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  Speaker 1: But eventually Cliff recaptures her after she's been nearly murdered
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  Speaker 1: and hospitalized. And I have to say that episode was
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  Speaker 1: a good twist on the whole thing too. Turns out
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  Speaker 1: Sterling Senior knew that she hadn't murdered his son. Also,
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  Speaker 1: he's a mafia boss, which we all suspected, and wants
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  Speaker 1: to offer Charlie a legit job. However, he is murdered
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  Speaker 1: and Charlie is framed for his death, so she flees
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  Speaker 1: once again while in contact with her FBI friend Luca Clark,
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  Speaker 1: and she retreats to her sister's house, who's played by
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  Speaker 1: Claya Duval, and the two of them have been estrange
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  Speaker 1: because Charlie was blamed in their family for causing their
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  Speaker 1: parents to divorce because she knew they were lying about stuff.
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  Speaker 1: They sort of makeup and Charlie gets the keys to
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  Speaker 1: the family boat, only to learn that the boat doesn't function.
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  Speaker 1: So desperate, she calls Cliff for help, but then discovers
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  Speaker 1: he was the one who killed FROs Senior and attacks
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  Speaker 1: him before jumping in the water and making her escape.
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  Speaker 1: She then gets a call from the Consortium of mafia's
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  Speaker 1: in the Eastern United States. The five families of their
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  Speaker 1: called in, particularly Beatrix Hasp played by Ray Pearlman. They're
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  Speaker 1: mad because she calls all this chaos and a power vacuum,
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  Speaker 1: but Hasp offers her protection if she comes to work
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  Speaker 1: for her. Charlie declines, Beatrix puts a hit out on her,
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  Speaker 1: and Charlie is on the road fleeing once again. Then
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  Speaker 1: this is when you get into season two. That was
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  Speaker 1: all season one, And I'm only gonna quickly summarize season
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  Speaker 1: two because it did just happen. But okay, more murders
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  Speaker 1: solved across the US, more dodging a hitman, until Charlie
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  Speaker 1: and Beatrix come to a truce and Beatrix agrees to
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  Speaker 1: testify and exchange for witness protection. Charlie then finds her
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  Speaker 1: way to an apartment in New York with the help
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  Speaker 1: of Good Buddy, a person she communicates with on the radio.
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  Speaker 1: More murders occur, and then assassins, and then she meets
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  Speaker 1: a person who can lie to her. Oh, she meets
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  Speaker 1: her Moriarty. And that's what I will leave it at all, right,
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  Speaker 1: So I really enjoy it. I love a good puzzle,
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  Speaker 1: Samantha nos I was nerding out about Dames, trying to
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  Speaker 1: guess all the things that were going to happen. I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoy it. But I also really enjoy the character
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  Speaker 1: and actually She reminds me of you, Samantha Me yes,
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  Speaker 1: because she is somebody who's really curious and does it
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  Speaker 1: like back away from a tough conversation, Like she's somebody
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  Speaker 1: who legitimately is like, no, tell me about this, I
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  Speaker 1: want to know. I'm not just it's not a superficial
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  Speaker 1: conversation with her. So when I think of traits that
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  Speaker 1: this character displays, curiosity and cleverness, she's very very curious.
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  Speaker 1: She cannot let things go. But she's also really smart.
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  Speaker 1: She picks up on things so quickly. And I read
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: an article about how these kinds of shows work and
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  Speaker 1: how like a couple of seconds matter because as the audience,
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  Speaker 1: we're figuring it out as we're watching it, so they
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  Speaker 1: have to be really tight with the editing, and they're
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  Speaker 1: really good with that. But it feels like she's always
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  Speaker 1: kind of a little even if you know who it is,
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  Speaker 1: she's kind of ahead. She's very kind hearted. In this
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  Speaker 1: most recent episode, her Moriarty called her compulsive do gooder.
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  Speaker 1: But she is somebody who sees people for who they
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  Speaker 1: are and wants to help them legitimately, and that's nice.
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  Speaker 1: She isn't a bad place. Now I gotta tell you
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  Speaker 1: that that season finale.
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  Speaker 2: Was like.
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  Speaker 1: But she still was helping somebody at the end. And
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  Speaker 1: also perhaps obviously honesty. She is honest and she values honesty.
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  Speaker 1: There are ways people can get around her bullet detector,
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  Speaker 1: like if you always kind of I don't know, answer
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  Speaker 1: a question with the question. Are certain ways she can
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  Speaker 1: phrase things. That is not what was going on with
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  Speaker 1: the Moriarty though, but there are ways people can get
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  Speaker 1: around it. And now I'm like, now that she's met
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  Speaker 1: this person, I can imagine how terrifying that would be,
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  Speaker 1: because you're so confident in this ability and then you
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  Speaker 1: had someone come in and now can you trust it.
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  Speaker 1: She's also pretty much a loner. She always makes friends.
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  Speaker 1: She's very friendly, but she moves on like it's always
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  Speaker 1: like I made this friend and then I move on,
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  Speaker 1: and she's pretty she's a loner because of this ability.
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  Speaker 1: It is sad too, Like I texted a friend after
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  Speaker 1: I watched the finale today and I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't expect it. This is what I thought was going
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  Speaker 1: to happen, and I didn't expect it to be this sad.
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  Speaker 1: But she she thought she'd found somebody who always told
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  Speaker 1: the truth, and she was so relieved. Oh jeez, but
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  Speaker 1: she values that so much. She was so relieved that
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  Speaker 1: somebody was just being honest with her. Oh gosh. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: she also she has spoken about how she kind of
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  Speaker 1: she doesn't seek out danger or jeopardy, but she finds
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  Speaker 1: it kind of exhilarating. Uh. And one of the things
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  Speaker 1: that I there's a lot of suspension of disbelief, perhaps
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  Speaker 1: obviously with the show, but one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I'm always like, why are you confronting these people alone?
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  Speaker 1: What do you know that she does it all the
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  Speaker 1: time though she confronts them alone, And I'm like, you're
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  Speaker 1: a small lady and nobody knows where who you are.
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  Speaker 2: You make a lot of people mad. Why would you
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  Speaker 2: do this?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I will say a lot of the murders are
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  Speaker 1: kind of like crimes of passion. Sure, yeah, yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: it's not like they're serial killers until recently. But still
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  Speaker 1: I'm always like, my goodness. Also, the phone thing, they
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  Speaker 1: haven't really figured that out, or she hasn't figured it out.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm always like, where is your phone?
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  Speaker 1: But I do love the show, but those are my
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  Speaker 1: things that I sometimes I'm like, what, so there actually
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: has been a lot of stuff written about poker face
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  Speaker 1: and feminism. There are a lot of plotlines that condemn
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: particular types misogyny. I have to say, the show really
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  Speaker 1: comes for certain types of misogynist dude bros a lot,
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  Speaker 1: and when you look at who the victims are sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it'll hit you over the head with like, yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: dude is absolutely a misogynist. So I mean, even at
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  Speaker 1: the start, Natalie with her abusive husband as the scapegoat,
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  Speaker 1: there was this whole thing where he sent dick pics
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  Speaker 1: to like everybody, or he showed up on their cloud
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  Speaker 1: or something, and that was a part of the plot
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  Speaker 1: and that was how they framed him. In a recent episode,
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  Speaker 1: there was this whole thing with breast milk and guys
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  Speaker 1: working out and drinking the breast milk, and it was
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  Speaker 1: very like, these dudes are babies. These dudes are babies.
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  Speaker 1: They're crying when they're not getting the muscles they want.
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  Speaker 1: Tech bros galore, Wow, and then kind of just the
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  Speaker 1: whole idea. One of the recent episodes is a really
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  Speaker 1: good example of this. But like they were filming a
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  Speaker 1: TV episode and it was very misogynistic. And then the
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  Speaker 1: man who killed his wife used what was happening in
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  Speaker 1: the TV episode to murder his wife because they were
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  Speaker 1: filming it in his funeral home. He owned a funeral home,
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  Speaker 1: and he killed her because she wanted to leave divorce him,
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  Speaker 1: and then he burned her body and pressed her into
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  Speaker 1: a vinyl of a song she hated. And it was
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  Speaker 1: very much like this is a guy who just can't
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  Speaker 1: even handle his wife. Lee. There's a lot of examples
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  Speaker 1: of that. I would go into it, and actually I
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  Speaker 1: would like to come back and talk about it, but
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  Speaker 1: I already knew this one was going to be long,
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  Speaker 1: so that's for a future episode. But for now, listeners,
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  Speaker 1: if you have any suggestions for the segments or any
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about this at all, please let me know because
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  Speaker 1: I still have questions. I have one main question remaining
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  Speaker 1: after the season. Finally, you can email us at Hello
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