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Will The Phillies Get Out Of Their Slump? (PST Episode 578) · The Philadelphia Sports Table | Philly Sports News & Views

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody, It's Jeff here. I wanted to let
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Speaker 1: you know. This podcast episode was recorded on two separate
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Speaker 1: days this week. Our interview this week was recorded on Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: August sixth, twenty twenty four. The regular show with Lennon
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Speaker 1: myself was recorded on Wednesday, August seventh, twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: So by the time you hear this, some things may
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Speaker 1: have changed here or there, but we hope you enjoy
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Speaker 1: the show. Welcome to the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast show,
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Speaker 1: the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world.
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Speaker 1: That's right eleven years strong. We've got a great show
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Speaker 1: coming to you this week. We're certainly going to get
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Speaker 1: into some Eagles talk, not necessarily in camp talk. However,
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Speaker 1: we know that Howie Roseman likes to get ahead of
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Speaker 1: the market when it comes to signing free agent players.
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Speaker 1: What players may he be signing to that extension in
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Speaker 1: the future. We're actually gonna get into some Flyers talk.
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Speaker 1: I know there's no season ongoing right now, but I
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Speaker 1: want to take a look at some of the defensemen
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Speaker 1: on this team and who might be able to make
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Speaker 1: that jump if possible, to being that top defensive line
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Speaker 1: in the in the Flyers organization with the talent that
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Speaker 1: they have Philadelphia Union. They are now six nine and ten.
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Speaker 1: They're digging themselves out of the basement in the Eastern Conference.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that team. And of course we've
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Speaker 1: got a ton of Phillies talk coming your way. We've
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Speaker 1: got Tim Kelly from Phillies Nation dot com. He's going
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Speaker 1: to be joining us to get into this team. I'm
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Speaker 1: Jeff Warren. I'm here with my buddy Lenn Hunsicker. Lenn,
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Speaker 1: How you doing, man?
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Speaker 2: I am doing good. Been it's been like three weeks
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Speaker 2: since I've been here.
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Speaker 1: Right exactly. Yeah, you've been on vacation. You've had a
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Speaker 1: nice long vacation. I know you. You and the you
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Speaker 1: and the missus were up in Maine.
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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I mean, I'm sure if I went
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Speaker 2: up there and winter, I'd be singing a vastly different tune.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, Ben, it's nice up there.
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Speaker 1: Like some lobster rolls some Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We probably had that like three nights and then like
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Speaker 2: a whole like lobster like the one you crack open.
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Speaker 2: Oh god, So it was uh, it was pricey, I
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Speaker 2: can tell you that much.
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Speaker 1: That's our vacations are supposed to be there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's like I I think I said that
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Speaker 2: to myself in my own head probably at least five
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Speaker 2: times that week I'm on vacation, Like I'd like, that's
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Speaker 2: how I rationalized everything exactly.
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Speaker 1: Would I go on vacation with my family and we're
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Speaker 1: going out to eat to dinner like freaking five nights
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Speaker 1: a week or something like that. We're usually like in
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Speaker 1: a condo where we have like a like a kitchen area,
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Speaker 1: and there are times where we just make some meals.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, so you were eating a lot of meals,
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Speaker 1: But like we you justify it as as you should
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Speaker 1: when you go on vacation. You got in yourself and
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Speaker 1: food is part of the experience when you go on vacation.
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Speaker 1: It's I just have to tell my wife this a
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Speaker 1: lot back in the day. She's gotten better with it
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Speaker 1: because she'd always be like, well, let's just stay in
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Speaker 1: and make pasta tonight, you know what I mean, Like,
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Speaker 1: what are you doing here? We're on vacation.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 1: We finally gotten to the point over the years we've
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Speaker 1: got a good balance with it. In fact, we go
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Speaker 1: out to eat a lot more than we ever have
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Speaker 1: on vacation, So it's just it's part of the experience.
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Speaker 2: You have to do it absolutely. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, I'm glad you had a good vacation, Bud,
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Speaker 1: and I am excited about this Eagle season. Right around
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Speaker 1: the corner, you getting excited for Eagles postgame shows?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, what's so? The first one is what a
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Speaker 2: Friday night? Right?
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Speaker 1: It is Friday night. It's the Eagles and Green Bay
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Speaker 1: game coming to us from Brazil.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that ought to be What time does that start?
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I think it's gonna be like
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Speaker 1: an eight to fifteen start something like I'm.
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Speaker 2: Gonna say, I think with the positioning of where Brazil is,
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Speaker 2: I think they would be kind of more or Central
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Speaker 2: time zone. I would think.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't be wrong with that. With that, somebody
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Speaker 1: may have to correct us out there. I'm sorry what
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Speaker 1: you saying?
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Speaker 2: I say, No, I just said, yeah, who knows with that?
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, we just wanted to throw that
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Speaker 1: out there to folks that yes, we have our Eagles
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Speaker 1: postgame podcast shows that are going to be coming back
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Speaker 1: as they have been for the eleven years we have
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Speaker 1: been doing this podcast. We started with them back during
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Speaker 1: the Chip Kelly era, Len, I remember those Eagles postgame
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Speaker 1: shows back then, some fun ones and then there was
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Speaker 1: some oh boy boy really tailed off there with Chip Hunt.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it started off hot and then it got hot
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Speaker 2: for a different reason.
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Speaker 1: Yes exactly, a hot, steaming pile of yes exactly. Well
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Speaker 1: we have we were looking forward to that. And you
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Speaker 1: may not always hear Len and Eric on those Eagles
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Speaker 1: postgame podcasts. We've got our friend Josh Schuster from Philadelphia
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Speaker 1: soccernow dot com. He may be joining us every now
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Speaker 1: and again. We've got Matt Rogers from the honorable mentioned podcast.
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Speaker 1: He may be jumping on our Eagles post game podcast
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Speaker 1: shows every now and again as well, just because sometimes
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Speaker 1: you know, Len's working, you know, sometimes Eric's got some
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Speaker 1: family stuff, and you know, sometimes things just happen. So
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Speaker 1: we got that coming to you. We're gonna be doing
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Speaker 1: it again folks this Eagles season. And speaking of the
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, Len, let's get into this show and what
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Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about in terms of this team,
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Speaker 1: but really, what Howie Roseman is going to be doing
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Speaker 1: from his office. He loves to get ahead of the
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Speaker 1: market when it comes to signing free agent players. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: we see this during training camp during the preseason. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: we see it during the course of the regular season
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Speaker 1: as well. So I wanted to get into a discussion
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Speaker 1: of which players we feel that he is probably going
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Speaker 1: to need to target and give that contract extension too.
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Speaker 1: And I think one of the players that is really
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Speaker 1: being looked at when we talk about this in the
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Speaker 1: Eagles Nation his defensive tackle Milton Williams. He's in the
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Speaker 1: final year of his rookie contract, a prime candidate for
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Speaker 1: an extension this offseason, and he's had a He's had
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Speaker 1: a very, very good year in an Eagles uniform, a
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Speaker 1: very I think from a productivity standpoint for who he is,
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Speaker 1: what he does on the field, his production probably doesn't
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Speaker 1: match his value as a player quite frankly, and from
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Speaker 1: a team perspective, that's the type of player you'd ideally
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Speaker 1: like to extend a contract to it a reasonable cost.
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Speaker 1: I think Milton Williams is going to end up getting
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Speaker 1: that contract extension from the Eagles again based on his productivity,
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Speaker 1: len what he's been giving this team, and also the
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Speaker 1: fact that this team is going to really need to
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Speaker 1: start to get some consistency on the defensive line because
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of new and moving parts. I don't
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Speaker 1: know you what are your thoughts about, whether it's Milton
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Speaker 1: Williams or anybody else you're looking at.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's start off with the fact that you
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Speaker 2: know the guys that are on this list that we're
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Speaker 2: looking at here. You look at last year. You had
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Speaker 2: two guys that they gave extensions out to before last
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Speaker 2: training camp, and you had two elite receivers in Brown
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Speaker 2: and Smith. You had two Pro Bowl linemen in Milatta
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Speaker 2: and Dickerson, guys that became Pro Bowlers if they weren't already.
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Speaker 2: And then you've got depending on you. He'll feel about
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Speaker 2: David Akers, probably the second best kicker in Eagles history
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Speaker 2: in Jake Elliott. So those are guys, those are no brainers.
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Speaker 2: Those are we have to lock these guys up. There's
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Speaker 2: nobody that's on this list here that I see that
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Speaker 2: is like, we have to lock this guy up. I mean,
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Speaker 2: there are guys that that that interest me. There. They're
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Speaker 2: guys that I like and and and you know Williams
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Speaker 2: is one of them. You know, he's a guy that
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Speaker 2: you know he's going to be one of the guys
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Speaker 2: that I think is being counted on to step up
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Speaker 2: because the Eagles, as you know, they like to rotate
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Speaker 2: their their defensive linemen. They like to have a rotation.
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Speaker 2: They like to come at you in waves. Fletcher Cox
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Speaker 2: isn't there anymore, so he is going to be counted in,
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Speaker 2: counted on to you know, step in and whenever Jordan
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Speaker 2: Davis or Jellen Carter need to come off the field
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Speaker 2: and get arrest, you know he's gonna be. He's probably
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Speaker 2: gonna be the next man in that rotation. So that
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Speaker 2: to me would kind of heighten his importance as a player.
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Speaker 2: I know Vic Fangio likes him, so that's another thing
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Speaker 2: I mean to me, he seems and I think with
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Speaker 2: a lot of guys on this list here, these are
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Speaker 2: guys that I think you're gonna be looking at hard
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Speaker 2: in training camp and if they're winning training camp battles,
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Speaker 2: then okay. Is provided they're winning those training camp battles
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Speaker 2: in terms of the guys that are they're fighting with
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Speaker 2: on the depth chart, then those are guys you look
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Speaker 2: at locking up. Yeah they lose that battle then sorry, Charlie.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like I said, the names on the list that
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Speaker 1: we're looking at in Isaiah Rodgers, Devin White, Zach Bond.
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Speaker 1: You know, these aren't guys who are you know, you know,
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Speaker 1: knocking down the doors in terms of productivity in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: I mean Isaiah Rodgers, for God's sake, he was freaking
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Speaker 1: it was suspended for the entirety of the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: three season for violating the NFL's policy on gambling. So
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Speaker 1: he really hasn't seen starting action in quite some time.
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Speaker 1: And Devin White, Zach Bond, you don't know what we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get from them. You're gonna have to see a
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Speaker 1: lot from them preseason and during the early part of
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Speaker 1: this season. But there was one guy that I think
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Speaker 1: could potentially get some sort of contract extension if he
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Speaker 1: excels at his position, if he wins the position, and
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Speaker 1: if he is really doing a great job doing everything
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Speaker 1: that Jeff Stotland wants. And that's Makai Beckton. That right
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Speaker 1: guard position len is so key, so important. And we
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Speaker 1: know how Howie Roseman loves to shore up. He loves
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Speaker 1: to shore up offensive lineman, defensive lineman, the trenches. He
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Speaker 1: has done it for years and years. We've seen it
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Speaker 1: with Lane Johnson, We've seen it with Jordan Mailatta. As
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Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, Mackai Beckton is on a one year
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Speaker 1: deal two point seventy five million dollars and after this
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Speaker 1: he's a free agent. But if he were to get
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Speaker 1: to a point where, boy, he is playing some dominant football,
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Speaker 1: he's he's working in concert with Lane Johnson and with
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Speaker 1: Cam Jurgens, and he seems like he's going to be
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Speaker 1: a long term possibility and potential at that at that
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Speaker 1: right guard position. I could see him possibly being a
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Speaker 1: guy that's extended in the future.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, they look at you know, like you said,
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Speaker 2: they the lines are probably their most valued position on
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Speaker 2: the field. Yeah, you know, with this organization. So again,
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Speaker 2: camp battles. If he does what he's supposed to do
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Speaker 2: in camp, he has a chance to make himself a
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Speaker 2: lot of money. And you mentioned a name in Isaiah
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Speaker 2: Rodgers that did interest me. I mean, a guy that
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Speaker 2: you know, I think you know, he was a good player,
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Speaker 2: you know, prior to his suspension for the Colts. So yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: so he's a guy that Okay, he drafted you know,
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Speaker 2: Quinny and Mitchell with the expectation that you know, he
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Speaker 2: is gonna be one of your starting corners, if not
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Speaker 2: this year, the year after that. Yeah, Darius Slay is
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Speaker 2: getting up there, so he is eventually going to have
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Speaker 2: to be replaced. So if Rogers can show that he,
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Speaker 2: you know, still has that potential in him, then and
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Speaker 2: you can look down the road once Slay has gone
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Speaker 2: and see, Okay, Rogers and Mitchell are our corners on
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Speaker 2: the outside, then yeah, I mean he he obviously becomes
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Speaker 2: a priority too.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And look, Slay turns thirty four in January.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, yeah, that that day is coming
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Speaker 2: sooner than probably a lot of people, slayh included and
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Speaker 2: the Eagles included, would like to think, what.
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Speaker 1: An incredible signing that was a stash move. He gets
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Speaker 1: suspended Isaiah Rodgers here, he gets suspended and the Eagles
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Speaker 1: signed him last summer, and it's just he was He
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Speaker 1: was reinstated by the NFL four months months ago in April,
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Speaker 1: and his contract with the Eagles in twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 1: It actually goes into effected twenty twenty four, and it's
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Speaker 1: going to be the final year of his rookie deal,
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Speaker 1: and then the Eagles are going to be able to
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Speaker 1: sign him if they want. If he's going to be
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Speaker 1: a contributing member of this secondary, which I think he
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Speaker 1: is going to be this season, look for a sixth
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Speaker 1: round pick. He showed a lot of promise with the Colts,
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Speaker 1: and I have a feeling he's going to show a
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Speaker 1: lot of promise this this coming preseason and early in
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Speaker 1: this regular season for the Eagles. Vic Fangio has said
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Speaker 1: that he really likes what he's seeing from him at
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Speaker 1: this point, and of course he's saying that with a
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Speaker 1: lot of guys. Well maybe except for Niakcobe Dean however,
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Speaker 1: and that's maybe a story for another time, because I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that guy's going to be on this
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Speaker 1: team too much longer. But from all indications, Vic Fangio
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Speaker 1: really likes what he's seeing in Isaiah Rodgers. So I
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Speaker 1: don't know, buddy, Do you have anything else for this
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Speaker 1: particular story that we wanted to dive into here? Any
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Speaker 1: other players you can see?
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Speaker 2: No, I mean, I mean, none of as, But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I am interested to see Devin White. I mean a
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Speaker 2: guy that you know when he was a Tampa he
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Speaker 2: was just always like, oh man, that guy's freaking awesome. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so what does he have left in the tank? But yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean this is this is the interesting thing to
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Speaker 2: look at when it comes to these preseason games. Normally
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Speaker 2: it's like, okay, preseason you row in your eyes, It's like, okay,
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Speaker 2: here there's six string guys and guys that are never
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Speaker 2: gonna you know, make the team. But these are the battles,
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Speaker 2: these are the things that make them worth looking at
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Speaker 2: this year in terms of guys like Williams and Rogers
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Speaker 2: and things like that. You know, who are the guys.
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Speaker 2: Can anybody step up here and show them, Hey, I'm
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Speaker 2: worth the money long term?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: So, I mean, these guys have a lot to play
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Speaker 2: for here, they really do.
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Speaker 1: That's why this preseason is going to be extremely interesting.
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Speaker 1: As Lenn was talking about, there's a lot of battles
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Speaker 1: and there's going to be a lot of development that
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Speaker 1: we are likely going to be seeing and we may
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Speaker 1: not see it in certain players, and those players may
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Speaker 1: not be on this team and with this organization after
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Speaker 1: a too long So it's gonna be fun. It's gonna
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Speaker 1: be fun. As we're moving along with the conversation and
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Speaker 1: moving along with the discussion here, let's get into some
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Flyers talk. It's the off season. Not too too
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Speaker 1: much is going on with this team. But Len this
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Speaker 1: past week, I'm thinking to myself about the defenseman on
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Speaker 1: this team, and it doesn't appear that they really have
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Speaker 1: that solid one D guy on the team. But it's
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Speaker 1: not a terrible defensive corps. You've got Cam Yorke, Travis Sandheim,
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Speaker 1: Jimmie Drysdale, Oliver Bonk, Hunter McDonald, Hunter McDonald, Emil Andre
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Speaker 1: Can any of these players here possibly make that jump
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Speaker 1: and become a true top line defender in the future
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Speaker 1: for this team. We look at Travis Sandheim here. I
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Speaker 1: think we know who Travis Sandheim is at this point.
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Speaker 1: He's a great number three. He's a pretty good number two,
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Speaker 1: but he's not a number one. I think you would
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Speaker 1: agree with that.
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I would.
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Speaker 1: I would define okay, Cam York from what we have
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Speaker 1: seen from him thus far. I like what we've seen
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Speaker 1: from Cam York, but I don't necessarily think that he
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Speaker 1: has showcased like the dynamic aspects of his game that
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Speaker 1: we've kind of been wanting, especially when it comes to
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Speaker 1: really being able to move the puck. He seems to
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Speaker 1: be another possible Travis Sandheim ish at a really great
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Speaker 1: number three, a pretty good number two not a number one.
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Speaker 1: I think Jamie Drysdale is the guy here. Oliver Bonk
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Speaker 1: even are the two guys who have that ceiling and
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Speaker 1: possibility of maybe being that one D player from what
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Speaker 1: we have seen thus far, I don't know. I think
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Speaker 1: Bank took a huge leap last season in his development,
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Speaker 1: and with Jamie Drysdale, he's got to stay healthy. Of course,
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Speaker 1: I see these guys as as possessing borderline first pair upside.
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Speaker 1: That's my thoughts looking at where the defenses right now,
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Speaker 1: and of course I think Danny Brier in the front office,
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Speaker 1: they are going to end up when I think really
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Speaker 1: trying to make a move if it's not this coming
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Speaker 1: before this coming trade deadline, and I know the season
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Speaker 1: hasn't even started yet, but or maybe next next off
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Speaker 1: season to really get that that that that first pair
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Speaker 1: upside that they have been looking to get, or that
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Speaker 1: just that first that one D guy. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts here with all this? Do you
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Speaker 1: agree with what I'm saying? Disagree? What are you thinking?
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Speaker 2: No? I I agree. I don't see a clear cut
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Speaker 2: This is our our our guy, this is our our
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Speaker 2: you know, number one defenseman, our Victor headman. Are you know,
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Speaker 2: you know, more more cider guys like that. Yeah, there's
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Speaker 2: no there's no guy in this group you know that's
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Speaker 2: going to challenge for the Norris Trophy as as a
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Speaker 2: top defenseman in the NHL in terms of one d
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Speaker 2: like like top of the line first, you know, defenseve
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Speaker 2: and potential. I think Drives Dell is the closest to it.
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Speaker 2: In terms of pure talent. He's got to prove that
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Speaker 2: he can stay healthy, though he has not shown that
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Speaker 2: thus far in his career. So he's a guy that
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Speaker 2: you know. And and even in terms of developing consistency,
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Speaker 2: it's hard to develop consistency when you're not consistently on
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Speaker 2: the ice. So that's something that that he's got to do.
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got a solid defensive corps all
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Speaker 2: the way through, I think you can get away with
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Speaker 2: not having the number one defenseman. If you've got like,
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Speaker 2: if you've got it, like an entire defensive corps that
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Speaker 2: grades out as second pairing guys, that's not bad. I mean,
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Speaker 2: because you know, even even your your third pair, I
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Speaker 2: mean if they would be second pair guys on another team,
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Speaker 2: on a contending team, I mean that's that's not bad
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Speaker 2: at all. I mean, you don't have to have a
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Speaker 2: superstar at every position. It would be nice. It's something
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Speaker 2: that you know, if the if the Flyers pipeline was
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Speaker 2: further along, they would have that guy. But I feel
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Speaker 2: like they, you know, even even with having Mitchkoff here
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Speaker 2: now after losing, after you know, having a trade Gotier,
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Speaker 2: you know, you still need stuff up front in the
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Speaker 2: forward positions. You still need to have a number one center,
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Speaker 2: which you don't have, and that's always going to be
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Speaker 2: the priority with this team. So even if this team
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Speaker 2: bottoms out this year for whatever reason, everything, if they
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Speaker 2: have a Murphy's loss season and everything that can go
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Speaker 2: wrong does go wrong, and they are sitting up near
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Speaker 2: the top of what's going to be a pretty loaded
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Speaker 2: draft this coming year. There's a lot of the there's
18:42
Speaker 2: a couple guys that could potentially profile as a number
18:45
Speaker 2: one center, and if that's a position the Flyers are
18:47
Speaker 2: sitting in, believe me, that's what they're going to take. So,
18:51
Speaker 2: I mean that's a long way of saying, you know,
18:53
Speaker 2: I don't think they have that guy. Bank Is is
18:56
Speaker 2: a guy that intrigues me. I hear nothing but good
18:58
Speaker 2: things about him in Junie years. He's a guy whose
19:01
Speaker 2: dad played in the NHL, so you know he's been
19:04
Speaker 2: around in the NHL locker room, you know, you would think,
19:07
Speaker 2: and he he knows what being a pro is all about, right,
19:10
Speaker 2: So he's he's a guy that's going to walk in
19:12
Speaker 2: on day one and you probably don't have to worry
19:14
Speaker 2: about him from a maturity standpoint or being overwhelmed or
19:19
Speaker 2: not understanding you know, the moment, or anything like that.
19:22
Speaker 2: He's going to be just fine. I think between York
19:24
Speaker 2: San Haim, Drysdale Bank, I think that's a solid top
19:28
Speaker 2: four again, not spectacular, not superstar, but if everything else
19:33
Speaker 2: is good, if you've got a good goalie that you
19:35
Speaker 2: can count on, and if you've if you've got a
19:38
Speaker 2: really good forward group, you can win with that for
19:41
Speaker 2: I think you.
19:41
Speaker 1: Can, Okay, I I boy, what was I was reading?
19:45
Speaker 1: I think it was one of Charlie O'Connor's recent articles
19:48
Speaker 1: where he was talking about Bonk and how he's he's
19:53
Speaker 1: that type of defenseman where he's kind of like like
19:57
Speaker 1: good at everything, but not great any one type of
20:02
Speaker 1: thing for an NHL defenceman, and and I think that's
20:05
Speaker 1: it was an interesting way that he put it, Because
20:08
Speaker 1: if you're just good at everything, I would hope and
20:11
Speaker 1: I would hope that something within the toolbox is going
20:16
Speaker 1: to outshine something else at some point as you continue
20:19
Speaker 1: to develop. And that's why I think bank look, like
20:22
Speaker 1: I said earlier, he took some big steps last season
20:25
Speaker 1: in his development, and I think that if he's able
20:29
Speaker 1: to take that I'm good at everything, but not great
20:33
Speaker 1: at any one thing, that something is going to be
20:36
Speaker 1: able to shine within that toolbox. If that makes sense.
20:39
Speaker 2: Now, I mean it would be great, It would be
20:41
Speaker 2: great he you know, ends up out playing what the
20:45
Speaker 2: you know what the people that look at prospects, you know,
20:48
Speaker 2: prognosticated him to be. I mean that sign me up
20:51
Speaker 2: for that. You can do that. But I still think
20:54
Speaker 2: when you when you look at this list of guys
20:56
Speaker 2: that you have here, including McDonald and Andre who I
20:59
Speaker 2: think you know, especially Andre, I mean he's a guy
21:01
Speaker 2: that if he's one of your third pairing defensemen, I
21:05
Speaker 2: think you're probably in a pretty decent place. Yeah. But
21:08
Speaker 2: when I look at this group that you've got listed here,
21:10
Speaker 2: to me, I think Drysdale's just from a strict talent standpoint,
21:15
Speaker 2: I think he's your clear cut number one guy.
21:17
Speaker 1: Yep. All right, well, good discussions here about the Eagles
21:21
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21:24
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22:20
Speaker 1: Union Len. It has been a remarkably and generally terrible
22:25
Speaker 1: season for this Union team. They're now six nine and ten.
22:30
Speaker 1: They're tenth in the Eastern Conference, but they have been
22:33
Speaker 1: digging their way out of the basement of the Eastern Conference,
22:36
Speaker 1: and it seems like from all indications, this team is
22:41
Speaker 1: somewhat having fun again playing soccer. A couple weeks ago,
22:46
Speaker 1: they won their first home game since March. So we've
22:50
Speaker 1: also seen what we've also seen a hat trick, right,
22:54
Speaker 1: I believe Daniel Gazdag had a hat trick. He's now
22:58
Speaker 1: tied for third in the league with fourteen goals on
23:01
Speaker 1: the year. There's been some really good things that have
23:04
Speaker 1: been happening with this Union team, and I guess the
23:07
Speaker 1: real question is, I mean, they're sniffing a wild card
23:10
Speaker 1: spot at this particular moment, can they actually do it
23:14
Speaker 1: and can they keep this momentum up? They gotta stay healthy.
23:16
Speaker 1: I mean it's like this in all sports, of course,
23:19
Speaker 1: but the Union need to stay healthy if they're going
23:22
Speaker 1: to even sniff the wild card at this particular point
23:25
Speaker 1: in time. So I don't know, what have your thoughts
23:27
Speaker 1: been with them at this point.
23:29
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, it's better. It's been better.
23:32
Speaker 1: The defense has been better too, by the way.
23:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh oh, defense has been better. I mean, I
23:37
Speaker 2: think since they've gotten their guys back from those tournaments,
23:40
Speaker 2: you know, the international tournaments. Yeah, I think it's been
23:43
Speaker 2: a lot better. But you know, yeah, I mean I
23:47
Speaker 2: think I feel like the last time we talked about them,
23:51
Speaker 2: they were like dead last, they were last East. Yeah,
23:54
Speaker 2: so now they've they've they're ahead of like five five
23:57
Speaker 2: teams in the East, which is nice. They rebounded a
24:00
Speaker 2: little bit, but they're gonna have to go on a
24:02
Speaker 2: bit of a heater here because so seven teams from
24:06
Speaker 2: each conference make the playoffs, and so they're currently sitting
24:09
Speaker 2: tenth and there's seven points out of the playoff spot.
24:12
Speaker 2: Orlando City would be the seventh. Right now, They've got
24:16
Speaker 2: thirty four points, Union have twenty seven. So they need
24:20
Speaker 2: to go on a heater at this point in time.
24:23
Speaker 2: So that's just the frank truth of what's going to
24:26
Speaker 2: need to happen if this team wants to sneak into
24:29
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and it's you know, they got to make
24:32
Speaker 2: a move soon because they you know, I don't think
24:36
Speaker 2: there's there's that much more here in terms of opportunity
24:39
Speaker 2: for them to go here with their schedule in order
24:42
Speaker 2: to kind of get where they need to get to.
24:44
Speaker 2: So will they do it? I'm not optimistic, but it's
24:50
Speaker 2: nice to see them playing better. I mean, even in
24:53
Speaker 2: their League's Cup game against cruz Azul the other night. Yeah,
24:57
Speaker 2: they lost five to three on penalty kicks, but it
24:59
Speaker 2: was nice see them come back. You know, down one nothing,
25:03
Speaker 2: you get a late goal from from Gosdag and then
25:06
Speaker 2: you know, you take it into penalties and you know,
25:09
Speaker 2: they lost on penalties, but you know, no big deal.
25:11
Speaker 2: They still won their group for the League's Cup and
25:14
Speaker 2: they move on to I believe it's Friday night they
25:17
Speaker 2: played Montreal, which is an entirely winnable game for them,
25:21
Speaker 2: and then that point you move into the round of sixteen,
25:23
Speaker 2: and you know, chances are they're going to go up
25:26
Speaker 2: against Cincinnati at that point, who's I believe, second in
25:28
Speaker 2: the East, and that's a that's a tall order, but
25:31
Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean anything can happen. So I
25:35
Speaker 2: mean I feel like they may have dug themselves a
25:38
Speaker 2: little bit of a hole here in terms of you know,
25:41
Speaker 2: remaining regular season and you know, getting to where they
25:45
Speaker 2: need to get to in order to get a playoff spot.
25:47
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna have to go on a real
25:49
Speaker 2: hardcore run here. But you know, it's been nice seeing
25:52
Speaker 2: them kind of get off the mat a little bit.
25:54
Speaker 2: But I I think there's still gotta be a lot
25:58
Speaker 2: of changes in the season done. It starts with ownership,
26:04
Speaker 2: and that's something that you know, I have a feeling,
26:07
Speaker 2: you know, until that changes, we're always going to be
26:10
Speaker 2: talking about that with this team.
26:11
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think, you know, I'm gonna old positive. Jeff
26:15
Speaker 1: is going to be coming out here because like the
26:17
Speaker 1: last two performances I think have given this team some momentum.
26:21
Speaker 1: Even Jim Curtin said at you know, one of the
26:24
Speaker 1: pressers after the win two weeks ago that he said, quote,
26:28
Speaker 1: no group has gone through a tough season like this
26:31
Speaker 1: more than our group. And when your best players are
26:33
Speaker 1: on the field together, we're still a really a good team.
26:37
Speaker 1: And then he find finished by saying, these two wins
26:39
Speaker 1: are going to go a long way into the break
26:41
Speaker 1: to build some confidence, and I think that's what this
26:44
Speaker 1: team needs. I think that's what this team has been
26:46
Speaker 1: able to get. I think this momentum is going to
26:48
Speaker 1: serve them well, I really do. They were downtrodden. I mean,
26:52
Speaker 1: they were at the bottom of the basement, like you said,
26:54
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Conference. Now having this momentum, I think
26:58
Speaker 1: we'll be able to give this team some confidence that
27:00
Speaker 1: that curtain's talking about. And again, it may just be
27:03
Speaker 1: wishful thinking, but we see this in sports all the time.
27:06
Speaker 1: A couple wins here can really do something for you.
27:10
Speaker 1: I mean, we're I mean, I've got the Phillies game
27:11
Speaker 1: on right now, and uh, you know, we're we're hoping
27:15
Speaker 1: for just like two wins. You know, Eric and I
27:16
Speaker 1: last week, Lenn making fun of the fact that I said,
27:19
Speaker 1: you know what, if the Phillies could just get two
27:20
Speaker 1: wins in a row, it could give them some momentum.
27:23
Speaker 1: And Eric's like, boy, you're really you're really uh, you know,
27:26
Speaker 1: you got the bare minimum there with that.
27:28
Speaker 2: That particularly crazy to say, and we'll get into them,
27:31
Speaker 2: but we're crazy that about a team that's had a
27:33
Speaker 2: first half like the Phillies. Yeah. But getting back to
27:37
Speaker 2: the Union here, I mean, you look at their schedule,
27:39
Speaker 2: it's upcoming independent of the league's Cup, stuff. Just talking
27:42
Speaker 2: strictly MLS. You know, you've got Columbus who's ahead of them,
27:46
Speaker 2: who's currently a playoff squad. Then in like the on
27:50
Speaker 2: the twenty fourth, then on the thirty first, you've got
27:52
Speaker 2: New York Red Bulls, also a playoff squad. You've got
27:55
Speaker 2: since in September, you're looking at enter Miami leading the East.
27:59
Speaker 2: Then you got NYCFC, also a playoff team. DC United
28:04
Speaker 2: should hopefully be a gimme. It's at home, and they're
28:06
Speaker 2: they're not a great team this year. Atlanta is one
28:09
Speaker 2: of those teams that they need to leap frog to
28:11
Speaker 2: get in that seventh position. Then you've got Orlando, who's
28:14
Speaker 2: seventh right now. And then you've got Columbus again, who's
28:17
Speaker 2: i think third in the East, and then Cincinnati who's second,
28:20
Speaker 2: so they have a tough road ahead of I mean,
28:25
Speaker 2: all of the teams, with the exception of that DC
28:27
Speaker 2: United game, all those teams are either in the playoffs
28:31
Speaker 2: or they're jostling for position with with Philadelphia for that
28:35
Speaker 2: last playoff spot. So that is there's there's not really
28:40
Speaker 2: any cupcakes on that schedule, with the exception of maybe
28:44
Speaker 2: that DC United game, and even that you know who
28:46
Speaker 2: knows they haven't been great at home this year, so yeah,
28:50
Speaker 2: well we'll have to see how that all goes.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yep, it's going to be interesting to watch for sure.
28:54
Speaker 1: And what's also going to be interesting to watch is
28:57
Speaker 1: we're moving along here with the conversation and discussion is
29:01
Speaker 1: how the Phillies are gonna get out of the hole
29:03
Speaker 1: that they have dug and it's not even and look again, Len,
29:07
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to you know, Tim Kelly in a
29:09
Speaker 1: little bit here from Phillies Nation dot com about you know,
29:12
Speaker 1: where this team is heading and they're leading. The division
29:16
Speaker 1: has dwindled a little bit. But interestingly enough, when the
29:19
Speaker 1: Phillies are are are winning, you've got the Braves that
29:23
Speaker 1: are losing. And even though there haven't been that many
29:25
Speaker 1: wins since the All Star break, the Braves thankfully are
29:29
Speaker 1: losing games when the Phillies are winning. So things are
29:32
Speaker 1: kind of evening out and lucking and they're lucking out
29:34
Speaker 1: in terms of that. But man, the bleeding needs to stop.
29:38
Speaker 1: We may be coming out of it with you know,
29:40
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper having a good couple nights, and I gotta
29:45
Speaker 1: say that first game against the Dodgers, there was some
29:48
Speaker 1: small ball being played, and there's something to be said
29:50
Speaker 1: for small ball every now and again, especially when you're
29:53
Speaker 1: down in the dumps, you're at the bottom of the barrel.
29:55
Speaker 1: You need to get some sort of confidence, you need
29:57
Speaker 1: to get some sort of momentum. Plays all ball. Baseball
30:01
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. I've said it on this
30:02
Speaker 1: podcast a number of times, and we saw that to
30:06
Speaker 1: an extent in that first game against the Dodgers, which
30:10
Speaker 1: which the Phillies won, and I think they need to
30:14
Speaker 1: continue to do that. Just make contact with the ball.
30:18
Speaker 1: I know it's a power hitting type of thing where
30:20
Speaker 1: we want home runs constantly, we all do, but man,
30:24
Speaker 1: just play some small ball every now and then, to
30:26
Speaker 1: get a little bit of momentum, that's what I'm saying.
30:28
Speaker 2: Then, well, and that's the thing the good teams can
30:32
Speaker 2: do that. The good teams can manufacture runs by a
30:35
Speaker 2: small ball when it's not working. And when it is, yeah,
30:38
Speaker 2: you can come up there and be like a you know,
30:40
Speaker 2: a slow pitch softball team where everybody's just slugging the
30:43
Speaker 2: ball over the fence. And that's great. That's fun as
30:46
Speaker 2: hell when you're riding high like that. But when you're not,
30:48
Speaker 2: you've got to be able to move runners over, You've
30:50
Speaker 2: got to be able to take the extra base and
30:52
Speaker 2: stuff like that. And it's just it's just something where
30:56
Speaker 2: this lineup has gotten, you know, just really cold. I mean,
31:00
Speaker 2: Harper has not been Harper. I mean, like you said,
31:03
Speaker 2: he's starting to come out of it. But you know,
31:05
Speaker 2: there's there's reason for concern there. I mean the pitching,
31:08
Speaker 2: the pitching starting pitching the first half of the year
31:11
Speaker 2: was great, but they could be frank put on a
31:15
Speaker 2: lot of innings on their arms and it's great. You know, Look,
31:19
Speaker 2: the the purest baseball fan in me loves to see
31:24
Speaker 2: starters going deep in games and stuff like that and
31:26
Speaker 2: being that horse that I grew up watching, you know,
31:29
Speaker 2: in the eighties and even early nineties and stuff like that.
31:32
Speaker 2: But the concern with that is with the way pitchers
31:36
Speaker 2: are handled today. When it comes to September, do these
31:41
Speaker 2: guys start to wear down a little bit. So the
31:43
Speaker 2: offense needs to be able to produce in order to
31:46
Speaker 2: counteract something like that happening.
31:48
Speaker 1: And this is an offense that's designed to do just that.
31:51
Speaker 1: But everybody's cold at the same time.
31:54
Speaker 2: And that's the thing you hope that you know, Okay,
31:56
Speaker 2: if everybody's cold, now, everybody's going to start to heat up.
31:59
Speaker 2: I mean, it's funny, I was, I was saying because
32:03
Speaker 2: at one point, when I was on vacation, my father
32:05
Speaker 2: in law texted me a picture of Bryce Harper on
32:09
Speaker 2: the back of a milk carton, like have you seen me?
32:12
Speaker 2: I texted them back. I was like, I'm so because
32:15
Speaker 2: I I was. I still get the updates on my
32:17
Speaker 2: phone in terms of, like, you know what's going on,
32:19
Speaker 2: so I knew they were losing. I texted back and
32:20
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm so happy that I'm in New
32:23
Speaker 2: England and like I don't have access to watch this
32:26
Speaker 2: team right now. I'm just happy I'm not even able
32:30
Speaker 2: to see these games right now because it's just infuriating
32:32
Speaker 2: because I was getting those updates for like the Yankee series,
32:35
Speaker 2: like the first game they lost fourteen to four, and
32:37
Speaker 2: you're just like Jesus christ Man, like, what are these
32:39
Speaker 2: guys doing?
32:40
Speaker 1: Yeah?
32:41
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean you want to see them come
32:44
Speaker 2: out of because I mean since the All Star break,
32:47
Speaker 2: you know, last night's game included, you know, not counting
32:51
Speaker 2: what happens tonight here, they're currently down four to one.
32:54
Speaker 2: This team is five and twelve since the All Star break.
32:56
Speaker 1: It's incredible.
32:58
Speaker 2: So that is I'm I mean, I'm so glad that
33:03
Speaker 2: they were able to build up that cushion in the
33:05
Speaker 2: first half of the year. You just hope that they're
33:08
Speaker 2: not going to need every single one of every single
33:10
Speaker 2: bit of that cushion going forward here. I mean, fortunately,
33:13
Speaker 2: the Braves are just so banged up, so I mean,
33:17
Speaker 2: that's that's one thing. I mean, I don't know if
33:19
Speaker 2: the Mets are going to have enough to stage a
33:22
Speaker 2: you know, a hardcore run here. So hopefully the Phillies
33:25
Speaker 2: just you know, can even out and just you know,
33:29
Speaker 2: be who they are and just win the you know,
33:31
Speaker 2: cruise to the to the playoffs, win the division. I
33:33
Speaker 2: don't need them to be, you know, have the best
33:36
Speaker 2: winning percentage in baseball going into the playoffs, right, it
33:39
Speaker 2: would be great. I don't necessarily need it, but just
33:43
Speaker 2: don't be this yeah exactly that we're watching right now.
33:47
Speaker 1: I'm not in panic mode yet. I mean, it's getting
33:50
Speaker 1: it was getting. It was getting a little close last week.
33:53
Speaker 1: But I'm like I'm in that scared kind of mode
33:55
Speaker 1: of oh my gosh, like.
33:57
Speaker 2: Well, and it's one of those things where you just
34:01
Speaker 2: tell yourself, like this happens. This stretch happens to pretty
34:05
Speaker 2: much every every team, it does every year. Everybody goes
34:09
Speaker 2: through something like this, and hopefully this is just the
34:12
Speaker 2: Phillies time and it's just a bad couple of weeks
34:15
Speaker 2: and then you know, things you know eventually turn. But
34:19
Speaker 2: you know that, like like I said, with the with
34:21
Speaker 2: the the attacks on the starting pitcher's arms, you know
34:26
Speaker 2: that is there there. You know there are things you
34:28
Speaker 2: can look at and maybe worry a little bit if
34:31
Speaker 2: you look hard enough, and that's one of them. So
34:33
Speaker 2: you know, you just you hope that the offense can
34:35
Speaker 2: come back and counteract that.
34:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's gonna happen. I mean slumps,
34:41
Speaker 1: like you said, we see it all the time, year
34:43
Speaker 1: after year with good teams too. You see it year
34:46
Speaker 1: after year. I mean, I man, I remember, I remember
34:50
Speaker 1: following storylines, you know, when when the Astros ended up
34:53
Speaker 1: winning their last their last World Series that you know
34:58
Speaker 1: they they even went through some slow during that year
35:01
Speaker 1: as well. Every team does it, and I think we
35:04
Speaker 1: just got to remember that this is baseball. This happens.
35:07
Speaker 1: And because Bryce Harper isn't performing the way that we
35:10
Speaker 1: want to the way that he can doesn't mean he's
35:14
Speaker 1: a bomb lehen, because I cannot tell you how many
35:17
Speaker 1: times I've seen that on stupid Twitter. I cannot tell
35:20
Speaker 1: you how many times I've seen Bryce Harper is a bomb.
35:23
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, folks, all right.
35:26
Speaker 2: I bet you go be a White Sox fan a
35:29
Speaker 2: team that literally last night just broke a twenty one
35:33
Speaker 2: game losing streak. Yes, go be a fan of them,
35:36
Speaker 2: and then come back to me and tell me how
35:38
Speaker 2: it is right exactly.
35:40
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's just it is f It is
35:42
Speaker 1: frustrating to see, and it's amazing how it happened too.
35:45
Speaker 2: Man.
35:46
Speaker 1: The All Star Break literally cooled these guys off. They
35:51
Speaker 1: just cooled them off. I mean, the momentum just it
35:54
Speaker 1: was like they hit a brick wall. That was the
35:57
Speaker 1: All Star Break.
35:58
Speaker 2: And that's you know, I mean, And that's the thing
36:02
Speaker 2: you if you listen to any baseball player talk ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
36:07
Speaker 2: they talk about how much of creatures of habit they are, yeah,
36:11
Speaker 2: and creatures of rhythm. And then all of a sudden,
36:13
Speaker 2: you got this three or four day break right in
36:16
Speaker 2: the middle of everything. And for guys, a team full
36:19
Speaker 2: of guys. And it's not just the Phillies. I mean,
36:22
Speaker 2: I think every team is full of guys like this,
36:24
Speaker 2: guys that you know, are used to a routine. And
36:27
Speaker 2: then that I mean listen teams that respond to it
36:30
Speaker 2: in different ways. Who knows, maybe next year the Phillies
36:33
Speaker 2: will come out of the All Star break and will
36:35
Speaker 2: be hot for whatever reason. Yeah, it changes from year
36:38
Speaker 2: to year, but you know, for for a team of guys,
36:43
Speaker 2: and like I said, this is every team in baseball,
36:45
Speaker 2: for a team of people that are so used to
36:47
Speaker 2: a routine. Getting out of that for three or four days,
36:50
Speaker 2: it can it can do something.
36:51
Speaker 1: You can do something here. Yeah, absolutely, all right, Well
36:56
Speaker 1: we got some more Phillies talk for you, folks. Longtime
36:59
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37:01
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37:08
Speaker 1: let you go before we get to the interview here.
37:11
Speaker 1: You got anything else, Buddy, I.
37:13
Speaker 2: Don't just uh, I don't know. We'll kind of see
37:17
Speaker 2: what happens here. I'm kind of a it's funny. I'm
37:21
Speaker 2: at that that point where like it's August now, and
37:23
Speaker 2: I'm starting it'll be like, Okay, let me go on
37:25
Speaker 2: ESPN and see when the first like weekend of college
37:28
Speaker 2: football is. Yeah, just when that starts up, because I
37:32
Speaker 2: know it's probably by the end of the month it's
37:34
Speaker 2: going to start up. So yeah, it's just it'll be
37:37
Speaker 2: interesting to see. You know what the Phillies do. You
37:39
Speaker 2: know we we do for for all the you know,
37:42
Speaker 2: griping that we've been doing over the past couple weeks
37:44
Speaker 2: about this team, we do have a team that's that's
37:47
Speaker 2: probably a top five contender in their sport to be
37:51
Speaker 2: in the championship, so we we should enjoy that on
37:54
Speaker 2: some level.
37:54
Speaker 1: That's great way, great way to end this segment here, buddy.
37:58
Speaker 1: I'll let you go, folks. We are going to take
38:00
Speaker 1: a break, and when we get back, we got more
38:02
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38:05
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38:07
Speaker 1: right back. All right, we are back. Let's get into
38:12
Speaker 1: some more Phillies talk here. Gonna dive into the weeds
38:15
Speaker 1: a little bit more with our guest. It's what we're
38:17
Speaker 1: throwing down on the table and now on the table
38:23
Speaker 1: joining us from Phillies Nation dot com. He is a
38:26
Speaker 1: writer over there and the editorial director. You can find
38:29
Speaker 1: him on the Twitter slash x at Tim Kelly Sports.
38:33
Speaker 1: He is a great, great guest. We love having him
38:35
Speaker 1: on to talk about this Phillies team every now and again.
38:38
Speaker 1: The one and only Tim Kelly. Hey doing, Buddy, I'm good.
38:41
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me dot on, Josh.
38:42
Speaker 1: It's great to have you on, my friend, because this
38:44
Speaker 1: Phillies team, you know.
38:45
Speaker 3: Bye.
38:45
Speaker 1: My co host Lennon and I were just talking about
38:47
Speaker 1: how terrible things are right now, just hoping that this
38:51
Speaker 1: team gets back into some sort of form here. And
38:55
Speaker 1: as we are looking at what this team has done,
38:58
Speaker 1: or I should say not done, since it's the All
39:00
Speaker 1: Star break, this Philly's Division lead is absolutely crumbling before
39:04
Speaker 1: our very eyes. And this West Coast road trip, it
39:08
Speaker 1: was such an important one. It's one that we were
39:10
Speaker 1: talking about on this podcast platform. Of course a lot
39:12
Speaker 1: of others were talking about it as well before it happened.
39:14
Speaker 1: They needed to help write the ship in some way,
39:16
Speaker 1: shape or form, and they have just I mean, yes,
39:18
Speaker 1: they had a nice win against the Mariners, but they
39:22
Speaker 1: faltered at almost every step of the way here and
39:25
Speaker 1: last week Tim, I was scared about where this team
39:28
Speaker 1: was headed. I said it on the show. I'm scared
39:30
Speaker 1: about where they're heading. I wasn't incomplete panic mode, but man,
39:33
Speaker 1: I am slowly creeping up to panic mode here at
39:36
Speaker 1: this point. So where should Phillies Nations heads be at
39:40
Speaker 1: this point? Should we be scared panic mode? What are
39:42
Speaker 1: your thoughts?
39:43
Speaker 4: I think concerned. I definitely wouldn't be in panic mode
39:46
Speaker 4: because even in the worst case scenario, I still think
39:48
Speaker 4: they'll end up with.
39:49
Speaker 3: A wild card spot.
39:50
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it is crazy to talk about that. Of
39:53
Speaker 4: six weeks ago, I think it felt like a pretty
39:56
Speaker 4: comfortable lead. I will say the Braves know how to
39:58
Speaker 4: win this time of the year, so surprised me to
40:00
Speaker 4: see them getting closer. But obviously the Phillies have helped
40:04
Speaker 4: them get closer by how they've played. This is a
40:07
Speaker 4: concerning stretch. I do believe that you go through stretches
40:12
Speaker 4: like this during one hundred and sixty two game season.
40:14
Speaker 3: I know people don't want to hear that, and.
40:16
Speaker 4: You have to stay poised during that time, but you
40:19
Speaker 4: also have to find the balance between doing that and
40:22
Speaker 4: having a sense of urgency not letting this snowball much
40:25
Speaker 4: longer than has So if the Phillies are still playing
40:27
Speaker 4: like this in a week or ten days, it's panic
40:30
Speaker 4: time potentially. I don't think right this moment it is.
40:34
Speaker 4: They're still in control of the division. They're still right
40:36
Speaker 4: above the teams that have the most wins in baseball,
40:39
Speaker 4: and that's why running up the margins early in the
40:41
Speaker 4: season was so important. But now it is time to
40:44
Speaker 4: kind of get your second win to the season and
40:46
Speaker 4: get going again.
40:47
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and there's so much chatter also tim about you know,
40:53
Speaker 1: amongst the fan base, about Rob Thompson and he should
40:56
Speaker 1: be held more accountable for what has happened with this
40:59
Speaker 1: Phillies team since coming out of the All Star break
41:01
Speaker 1: and even before the break. You know that that series
41:04
Speaker 1: with the Dodgers they had before the break, in the
41:06
Speaker 1: series with the A's as well. I'm not one hundred
41:09
Speaker 1: percent sure what that accountability would look like. And again,
41:13
Speaker 1: these are folks that are shooting off posts and tweets
41:16
Speaker 1: on social media and things like that. I don't know
41:18
Speaker 1: what accountability looks like at this point for Rob Thompson.
41:22
Speaker 1: But this is a guy who's been pretty successful manager
41:24
Speaker 1: for this team since taking the reins, and I don't
41:28
Speaker 1: know if so much should be put on his shoulders
41:30
Speaker 1: in terms of what has happened since the All Star break.
41:33
Speaker 1: Perhaps how much fuls should we be placing on Rob
41:36
Speaker 1: Thompson at the moment for this slide here? And does
41:39
Speaker 1: he need to be held accountable that What would that
41:41
Speaker 1: look like?
41:42
Speaker 4: Well, that's a good question what it would look like.
41:44
Speaker 4: I don't know what it would look like exactly.
41:47
Speaker 3: I think we.
41:47
Speaker 4: Overestimate the role that a manager has in game. I
41:52
Speaker 4: think the most valuable presence, or the most valuable thing
41:55
Speaker 4: a manager can do, is be a positive presence, specifically
41:59
Speaker 4: on a team like this that has veteran players that
42:02
Speaker 4: they're set in their ways, they know what they need
42:03
Speaker 4: to do and comes down to executing, and their biggest
42:06
Speaker 4: problem recently has been they haven't done that. I see
42:11
Speaker 4: the people that complain about Kyle Schwarber leading off have
42:14
Speaker 4: come back out of the woodwork.
42:15
Speaker 3: They were nowhere to be found for a couple of.
42:18
Speaker 4: Months prior to that. They don't have a real solution
42:21
Speaker 4: of who should lead off. They don't even have a
42:22
Speaker 4: reason of why Kyle. Why is this the time to
42:25
Speaker 4: move Kyle Schwarber out of the leadoff spot. The last
42:27
Speaker 4: he was hitting home runs, he was walking like the
42:30
Speaker 4: alternative would be Trey Turner or Bryson Stott. Does anyone
42:33
Speaker 4: think right now that either one of them would be
42:35
Speaker 4: doing a better job leading off? So I understand, and
42:40
Speaker 4: it's fair to point out at certain points of the
42:44
Speaker 4: season decisions that he's made that have maybe not worked,
42:48
Speaker 4: or maybe you want him to be a little more
42:50
Speaker 4: aggressive with the bullpen on certain days, whatever the case
42:52
Speaker 4: may be.
42:53
Speaker 3: I get that.
42:53
Speaker 4: He's not above criticism as far as going in and
42:58
Speaker 4: flipping over this whatever thing people think happens based off
43:05
Speaker 4: of a movie they watched in the nineteen nineties, It's
43:08
Speaker 4: just not really.
43:08
Speaker 3: How it works.
43:09
Speaker 4: So I think Rob has largely done an excellent job
43:14
Speaker 4: since he's taken over as Philly's manager. There are times
43:17
Speaker 4: where there's decisions he's made that I would do differently,
43:20
Speaker 4: but ultimately this team is going to sink or swim
43:23
Speaker 4: based off of the whether the players do it or
43:25
Speaker 4: they don't.
43:26
Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing you say that too, because I
43:28
Speaker 1: remember a couple months ago I was praising Rob Thompson
43:31
Speaker 1: on Twitter and somebody came back at me and were like,
43:34
Speaker 1: the guy actually stinks. If he didn't have these stars,
43:37
Speaker 1: he'd be nowhere. And it's like, well, what I mean
43:40
Speaker 1: to an extent, Yeah, these players who are amazing, like
43:43
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, Trey Turner, Kyle Schwarber doing the type of
43:46
Speaker 1: work that they were doing at the plate prior to
43:49
Speaker 1: the All Star break. But I think I think people
43:52
Speaker 1: are so black and white with their thinking sometimes that
43:55
Speaker 1: there needs to be a balance with this stuff. It's
43:57
Speaker 1: not just either or.
43:58
Speaker 4: At this point, we already had a lot of those
44:01
Speaker 4: same stars in twenty two. We didn't have Trey Turner.
44:03
Speaker 4: He had a lot of them in twenty twenty one.
44:05
Speaker 4: Gabe Kapler even had some of them at the end
44:07
Speaker 4: of his managerial tenure. The differences in winning percentage between
44:11
Speaker 4: those groups is staggering. Yeah, to be honest with you,
44:15
Speaker 4: I think the difference I just I think if you
44:20
Speaker 4: pulled the clubhouse on which of the three managers they
44:23
Speaker 4: liked the best, I think it would be ninety plus
44:27
Speaker 4: percent for Bob Thompson if I had to guess. So yeah,
44:31
Speaker 4: I mean, I think he is the manager for the
44:33
Speaker 4: time being, will probably continue to be for the future
44:36
Speaker 4: because he's done a very good job and Ultimately, this
44:39
Speaker 4: is going to be a team that sinks or swim
44:41
Speaker 4: based on how the Stars performed.
44:43
Speaker 1: Absolutely well. Moving along here, you know, you have the
44:46
Speaker 1: opportunity to get into the clubhouse, You have the opportunity
44:48
Speaker 1: to speak with players, You have the opportunity to really
44:51
Speaker 1: dissect what they're doing out on the field. Bryce Harper
44:54
Speaker 1: and Trey Turner have been absolutely dismal since the All
44:57
Speaker 1: Star break, as we all know. I mean just a
44:59
Speaker 1: few days ago before recording this here, they were collectively
45:04
Speaker 1: batting since the All Star Break was like one thirty,
45:07
Speaker 1: which is absolutely horrendous for both of these guys. So
45:10
Speaker 1: let's start with Bryce Harper here because I want to
45:12
Speaker 1: dive into both of these guys with you, Tim. Starting
45:15
Speaker 1: with Bryce Harper, what are you noticing with Harper when
45:18
Speaker 1: he's at the plate? Has he been talking about anything
45:20
Speaker 1: back in the clubhouse when when you are are are
45:23
Speaker 1: there with him after games, what are you noticing and
45:26
Speaker 1: what is he saying?
45:28
Speaker 4: I definitely think he holds himself to an extremely high standard,
45:31
Speaker 4: so he gets frustrated relatively easily, I guess when he
45:36
Speaker 4: doesn't perform the way he believes he should perform. Yeah,
45:39
Speaker 4: and sometimes that can spiral, but sometimes you just get
45:42
Speaker 4: in a funk. I mean, he won Player of the
45:44
Speaker 4: Month in the NL in May and June, right, he
45:47
Speaker 4: come back this month and really struggled, but he's shown
45:50
Speaker 4: some signs dating back to that Sunday game in Seattle
45:54
Speaker 4: of potentially coming out of it. And he is someone
45:57
Speaker 4: to me, I just I think it's extremely short sighted
46:01
Speaker 4: people that want to jump all over Bryce Harper and
46:04
Speaker 4: weeks like this, because like, do you not think in
46:07
Speaker 4: two weeks he's going to be going again?
46:09
Speaker 1: Exactly?
46:10
Speaker 3: It's it's is baseball to me.
46:12
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean you can't say he's playing poorly. He's
46:15
Speaker 4: playing poorly right now. There have been games where he's
46:18
Speaker 4: really struggled, swinging it pitches outside the zone that he
46:21
Speaker 4: doesn't normally chase. That's all fine, but you got to
46:23
Speaker 4: see the bigger picture here, specifically when you're talking about
46:26
Speaker 4: a player like this that has such an extended track record.
46:30
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, Well let's get into Trey Turner too, wondering
46:33
Speaker 1: what your thoughts are with him when you're in the
46:35
Speaker 1: clubhouse with him, you're interviewing him, asking him a question,
46:39
Speaker 1: and as what you are seeing from him at Citizens
46:42
Speaker 1: Bank Park as well. Have you seen anything with his
46:45
Speaker 1: swing that's been detrimental? What's been happening with Trey.
46:48
Speaker 4: Well, when he's not going right, he chases pitches, specifically
46:52
Speaker 4: the low and outside pitches. We always talk about Nick
46:54
Speaker 4: Castiano's chasing those turner Maybe he isn't quite to that extent,
46:59
Speaker 4: but he is someone that will chase out of his
47:01
Speaker 4: own when he's locked in. He's like as locked in
47:04
Speaker 4: as you can get as a hitter. But right now,
47:07
Speaker 4: since maybe like the Minnesota series, i'd say is where
47:11
Speaker 4: he kind of got off kilter, he needs to get
47:14
Speaker 4: back on offensively. I don't have any doubt that he'll
47:17
Speaker 4: do that. I do think his defense continues to be
47:19
Speaker 4: a real question, and you worry about that potentially making
47:24
Speaker 4: or potentially there being a major hera at some point
47:27
Speaker 4: in the postseason. And I do wonder like he's worked
47:31
Speaker 4: hard defensively. He acknowledged he was not good enough there
47:35
Speaker 4: last year, and I thought early in the season he
47:38
Speaker 4: seemed to be better. And it's not that they were
47:40
Speaker 4: ever expecting him to be a Gold Glover, but most
47:43
Speaker 4: metrics have him rated as one of the lowest heirs wise.
47:47
Speaker 3: Since he's come to the Phillies.
47:48
Speaker 4: He's been one of the worst defenders at shortstop and
47:52
Speaker 4: really any position, So I wonder what the long term
47:55
Speaker 4: future is there. But for the rest of this year,
47:57
Speaker 4: at the very least, he's the shortstop, so they have
47:59
Speaker 4: to make it work.
48:00
Speaker 3: Yeah.
48:01
Speaker 1: Well, as we're moving along here, there's so many players
48:03
Speaker 1: on this team. I think we all know who need
48:06
Speaker 1: to step up. You know, we just talked about Bryce Harper,
48:08
Speaker 1: Trey Turner, and they certainly need to get back to form.
48:11
Speaker 1: But I'm really looking at players like JT. Real Muto
48:14
Speaker 1: as a guy who really needs to step up on
48:16
Speaker 1: this team. As a leader on this team. He needs
48:19
Speaker 1: to be that cog in the wheel of success if
48:21
Speaker 1: this team is going to dig its way out of
48:24
Speaker 1: this hole. He's just one guy that I'm thinking about here.
48:27
Speaker 1: So from a batting perspective, tim outside of Turner, Harper,
48:31
Speaker 1: maybe real Muto as well, who do you believe really
48:34
Speaker 1: needs to take some big time strides over these next
48:37
Speaker 1: couple series here to kind of help right this ship.
48:40
Speaker 4: Yeah, certainly real Muto needs to get back on track,
48:43
Speaker 4: I think the biggest and Bryson Stott as well does. Yeah,
48:47
Speaker 4: it does as well too. But I think the biggest
48:48
Speaker 4: comes back to Nick Castianos.
48:50
Speaker 3: I understand he.
48:51
Speaker 4: Had a really bad March slash April that sunk his
48:55
Speaker 4: numbers to a degree, but the reality is it's August now,
48:59
Speaker 4: in his ops is still below seven hundred. They just
49:03
Speaker 4: they need better. I know he's been better since the
49:05
Speaker 4: start of May. I know he works extremely hard, but
49:08
Speaker 4: ultimately it's results based and for someone that is on
49:12
Speaker 4: an one hundred million dollar contract, they need better production
49:15
Speaker 4: from him or you know, who knows what happens in
49:19
Speaker 4: the offseason. I think if things crash and burn this
49:23
Speaker 4: year and whatever fashion, not a lot of like moving
49:27
Speaker 4: parts on the team, But you have to question does
49:31
Speaker 4: he fit moving forward If he struggled a lot his
49:35
Speaker 4: first year, last year he had a much better season
49:37
Speaker 4: but was still inconsistent, and this year it's been spotty.
49:41
Speaker 3: So yeah, it comes down to results.
49:44
Speaker 1: He's thirty two years old. I wonder if he is
49:46
Speaker 1: starting to hit that proverbial baseball wall at this point.
49:50
Speaker 1: Has there been any chatter about that, you know, behind
49:53
Speaker 1: the scenes, perhaps people saying, you know what this could
49:56
Speaker 1: be it, I mean, this could be the best that
49:58
Speaker 1: we're going to get from Nick Castianos.
50:00
Speaker 4: I don't think it's O, but he is a guy
50:03
Speaker 4: that like everything has to be going right for at
50:06
Speaker 4: the plate, and there have been some stretches since he's
50:09
Speaker 4: been on the Phillies where everything has been going right,
50:11
Speaker 4: there's been.
50:12
Speaker 3: More where they haven't.
50:13
Speaker 4: So uh, it's just it's kind of something to.
50:16
Speaker 1: Watch, all right again, folks talking to Tim Kelly from
50:20
Speaker 1: Phillies Nation dot com. They're doing great stuff over there
50:23
Speaker 1: as always at Tim Kelly Sports on Twitter slash x.
50:27
Speaker 1: Give him a follow if you're not already. And I
50:29
Speaker 1: wanted to get into the pitching with you too. With
50:31
Speaker 1: regard to this team and where they're heading, Tywan Walker
50:33
Speaker 1: ranger sworez that you know they need to get healthy.
50:36
Speaker 1: We know that we need some stability, more stability from
50:41
Speaker 1: this starting pitching staff, and I know both guys have
50:44
Speaker 1: been shaky at different points throughout this season. We're gonna
50:47
Speaker 1: be getting one of these gentlemen back sooner rather than later. Here,
50:50
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on what Suarez and Walker are
50:52
Speaker 1: gonna be able to give this rotation that we're not
50:55
Speaker 1: getting from the rotation right now.
50:58
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not sure what to back from Taiwan Walker
51:01
Speaker 4: to be completely honest with you, he hasn't been able
51:03
Speaker 4: to locate the pitch he's called his bread and butter
51:07
Speaker 4: this season, so that's concerning. And obviously much has been
51:10
Speaker 4: made about the velocity diminishing since he's come to the Phillies.
51:14
Speaker 4: So we'll see again another guy that's working hard but
51:17
Speaker 4: ultimately either going to get good results or you're not
51:19
Speaker 4: gonna get good results. So we'll see with him and
51:23
Speaker 4: then but when he is as right as he's going
51:26
Speaker 4: to be at this stage, I think he's someone that's
51:28
Speaker 4: an innings either that at the very least is going
51:30
Speaker 4: to give you five or six innings every fifth day
51:33
Speaker 4: or maybe every sixth day. And then Ranger Swarrez, even
51:36
Speaker 4: if he isn't pitching like how he pitched in April,
51:38
Speaker 4: if he's pitching how he did the last two years,
51:41
Speaker 4: that's a very good number three or number four in
51:43
Speaker 4: your starting rotation in the playoffs. So getting him back,
51:46
Speaker 4: getting the composed Ranger Swarz, that is a tremendous fielder
51:51
Speaker 4: at his position, Getting him back healthy and having him good.
51:54
Speaker 3: To go for the stretch obviously would be huge.
51:56
Speaker 4: And I think it is important to monitor the innings
51:59
Speaker 4: of him and Christopher Sanchez. In one way to do
52:02
Speaker 4: that when Taiwan Walker comes back, it might be to
52:05
Speaker 4: have a six man rotation, keep Tyler Phillips in there
52:08
Speaker 4: for an extra turn or two and see where things go.
52:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was talking to one of my guests
52:15
Speaker 1: this past week on our table Talk interview show. Folks,
52:17
Speaker 1: if you go back into the feed, you'll be able
52:19
Speaker 1: to check out that show, and we were talking about
52:21
Speaker 1: that potential six man rotation. You also think that is
52:25
Speaker 1: likely going to be happening, you know, keeping Tyler Phillips
52:28
Speaker 1: in there and making sure that he's part of that
52:30
Speaker 1: six man rotation. It's to me, it seems to make sense.
52:34
Speaker 1: You're essentially saying, you know, we're probably gonna end up
52:36
Speaker 1: seeing this correct.
52:37
Speaker 4: Well, I think it maybe would have happened. I don't
52:39
Speaker 4: know if it would have been with Tyler Phillips, but
52:41
Speaker 4: it would have happened at some point with Turnbull and Walker.
52:44
Speaker 1: True.
52:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, specifically when like maybe when they felt like Ranger
52:49
Speaker 4: Schwarz and Christopher Sanchez or one of them was kind
52:52
Speaker 4: of hitting a wall a little.
52:53
Speaker 3: Bit because they had pitched so much.
52:55
Speaker 4: It would have been a good way to kind of
52:57
Speaker 4: level things out in the middle of the summer, specific
53:00
Speaker 4: when you get in stretches like this where you don't
53:02
Speaker 4: have off days.
53:03
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think at some point you're going to
53:06
Speaker 3: see that.
53:07
Speaker 4: I don't know that it's necessarily going to be for
53:08
Speaker 4: an extended period, but two three times through the rotation,
53:12
Speaker 4: I think it makes sense because ideally for the Phillies,
53:15
Speaker 4: these guys are going to be making your Wheeler Nola
53:19
Speaker 4: and maybe Swarz and Sanchez close to thirty six or
53:22
Speaker 4: thirty seven starts this year.
53:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be interesting to watch for sure.
53:26
Speaker 1: And before I let you go, Buddy, so many of
53:29
Speaker 1: us fans are looking at this division. We're just asking
53:32
Speaker 1: ourselves should we be worried about the Mets and the
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Speaker 1: Braves at this point on? In our Opposition Territory show
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Speaker 1: this past week, we were talking about the Mets and
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Speaker 1: just how the Mets have been, you know, consistently getting
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Speaker 1: better and better throughout this season past two months, have
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Speaker 1: been playing good baseball. These teams are slowly creeping up
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Speaker 1: behind the Phillies in the NL East. What are your
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Speaker 1: thoughts here about this in terms of how worried we
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Speaker 1: should be about the Mets?
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Speaker 4: And the Braves, well, I guess it's different your worry
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Speaker 4: level of them catching you in the NL or you
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Speaker 4: just getting them at the wrong time in the postseason.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that the Mets are going to catch
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Speaker 4: the Phillies. I don't think they have the pitching to
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Speaker 4: do it, but who knows what could happen in a
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Speaker 4: short series. The Braves, I'd be a little more concerned
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Speaker 4: about potentially catching you, especially if Matt Olson and Austin
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Speaker 4: Riley get going and then they get back some of
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Speaker 4: the pieces they just got Max Freed back, if Michael
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Speaker 4: Harris comes back and later in the season they get
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Speaker 4: Azzy Alvi's back, Like that's a team with the proven
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Speaker 4: track record, they've won six division titles in a row.
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Speaker 4: I think you'd be more concerned if the Phillies don't
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Speaker 4: get it back together here soon that they could catch you.
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Speaker 4: And who knows what happens in the playoffs. The thing is,
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Speaker 4: if the Phillies win the division, either one of those
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Speaker 4: the Mets and Braves, and they could end up playing
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Speaker 4: each other, will have to win a playoff series before
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Speaker 4: even getting to the Phillies, and the Phillies would have
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Speaker 4: home field advantage. So we've seen flip the last two
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Speaker 4: years and the Phillies ended up emerging. But to me,
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Speaker 4: you would always rather be the team has to play
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Speaker 4: one less round of the playoffs and it isn't taxing
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Speaker 4: your pictures to the same extent.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, all right, it's gonna be interesting for sure.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna keep watching this Phillies team again, folks. Tim
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Speaker 1: Kelly from Phillies Nation dot com check out everything they
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Speaker 1: have going on over there. Great great content as always
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Speaker 1: at Tim Kelly Sports on Twitter slash X. My friend,
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Speaker 1: it was great talking to you. Come back join us
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Speaker 1: down the road. I'd love to talk more phills with you,
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Speaker 1: my friend.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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