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Wolf Tickets !! · GAS MONEY

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SPEAKER_02: Welcome to another installment of the Gas Money Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02: We got We got Charlie in the building.
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SPEAKER_02: What's going on, man?
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SPEAKER_02: Charlie in the building.
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SPEAKER_02: Hot takes, controversial takes, smart takes, dumb takes, and maybe flay takes.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you needed a maybe there.
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SPEAKER_02: I think that it's baked into the product.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I made sure we didn't need a maybe.
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SPEAKER_02: It's baked into the product.
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SPEAKER_02: Let's see how long we can last this episode without it.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think we should be.
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SPEAKER_02: Normally I'm double-teamed.
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SPEAKER_02: Pause.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, because it's coming from both directions.
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SPEAKER_02: Pause again.
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SPEAKER_02: But today, I got the one-on-one with my main man, Charlie.
1:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh, Charlie, what's going on?
1:07
SPEAKER_02: What's happening, brother?
1:08
SPEAKER_02: What's what was your weekend like?
1:10
SPEAKER_02: I have a lot of shit to say, but um I'll let you go first.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, my weekend was cool.
1:18
SPEAKER_02: It was busy.
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SPEAKER_02: I had a baby shower on Friday.
1:22
SPEAKER_02: I feel like every other week I come to this pod with a baby shower, right?
1:26
SPEAKER_02: I had a baby shower on Friday.
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SPEAKER_02: Um the invitation says 7 o'clock.
1:34
SPEAKER_02: 7 what?
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SPEAKER_02: P.m.
1:35
SPEAKER_02: Oh.
1:36
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not 7 p.m.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was like 7 p.m.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, sidebar, I didn't everybody thought it was strange that the baby shower was on a Friday.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I'm lost, but like everybody's like, you don't do baby showers on Fridays.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not too keen on the baby shower culture outside of uh the meatballs and the specific uniform the man's supposed to wear.
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SPEAKER_02: That's that's all I the uniform was there.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, it was there?
1:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
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SPEAKER_02: So um had a baby shower, uh, but you know, started at 10.
2:04
SPEAKER_02: That's alright.
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SPEAKER_02: Uh, food was great though.
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SPEAKER_02: Um surprisingly, there was oxtails.
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SPEAKER_02: It was oxtails at the baby shower, and they weren't being skimped with it.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, so it's two scammers having a baby together.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what's happening.
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SPEAKER_02: Probably.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, but the baby shower was cool.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, but I left early because I had to have to work the next day.
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SPEAKER_02: And then the next day I worked, got stuck at work for like 13 hours.
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SPEAKER_02: 13 hour shifts, God bless.
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SPEAKER_02: Um Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh, Friday I also was it Friday?
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no, Thursday.
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SPEAKER_02: I guess that's not the weekend, but fuck it.
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SPEAKER_02: Thursday I went out, had a drink.
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SPEAKER_02: What'd you partake in?
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SPEAKER_02: What what would you have?
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SPEAKER_02: What spirit did you invite into your body?
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SPEAKER_02: Frozen margaritas.
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SPEAKER_02: Frozo margaritas?
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SPEAKER_02: If you got a frozen margin, if you make a I've I'd take a frozen margarita over anything.
2:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so that's the yeah, but that has to be good because a lot of them be making it like the ice to still be like thick.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But I thought it was a good idea to go out with my cousin, invite my girl, get drunk, and have a conversation about male and female relations?
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SPEAKER_02: Relations.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay, Charley.
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SPEAKER_02: I want you to uh to protect your political connects as much as possible because you know I fuck with you and I don't want you to have any turmoil at home.
3:22
SPEAKER_02: But how'd that conversation go, brother?
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SPEAKER_02: Give me the the highlights that you can release.
3:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm still cleaning up the turmoil.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
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SPEAKER_02: That was Thursday.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's Sunday.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's a long weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: It was a long weekend.
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SPEAKER_02: We got Monday off.
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SPEAKER_02: Martin Luther King.
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SPEAKER_02: Shout out Martin Luther King, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I said I said things that probably were Oh, it's the alcohol.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta blame it.
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SPEAKER_02: We both did.
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SPEAKER_02: She also Oh, did anybody get loud?
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SPEAKER_02: This is in a public place, right?
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SPEAKER_02: It's a bar.
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SPEAKER_02: Anybody got loud?
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SPEAKER_02: Anybody stood up?
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SPEAKER_02: Yes.
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SPEAKER_02: Stood up, loud, kicked out.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: It's crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: It was like, you gotta take the pot outside.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what they said.
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SPEAKER_02: Mind you, it must have been something in the drinks because it was like two other tables that had a similar situation.
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SPEAKER_02: Another one's like, who the why the fuck do you think you could talk to her like that?
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SPEAKER_02: It's always wait, hold on.
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SPEAKER_02: Somebody joined y'all.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
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SPEAKER_02: It was another thing.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, there must have been something going on in that bar.
4:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: But that does make me think of something.
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SPEAKER_02: Why is it because it just seem it just happened to be the unattract.
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SPEAKER_02: Let me hear it.
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SPEAKER_02: Happened to be the unattractive friend defending the more attractive friend that was not defending herself against whatever the guy was saying or doing whatever the case is.
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SPEAKER_02: When she seemed the fern seemed more than capable of defending herself.
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SPEAKER_02: Can I give you my theory?
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SPEAKER_02: Tell me your theory, man.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I was confused.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm like, she's right there.
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SPEAKER_02: She can tell him.
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: I think we don't give women enough credit for how evil they are.
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SPEAKER_01: Male friendships are usually based on the most innocent things.
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SPEAKER_02: We we we we could cross paths five times and just become friends.
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SPEAKER_02: Because we are literally cross.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the dude that you coming from Starbucks at the same time, he's going to the gym.
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SPEAKER_02: Y'all just cross paths five times and now that's your man.
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SPEAKER_02: Women have never like that man will jump in for you if he saw you fighting.
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SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_02: Because that's like that's my Starbucks dude.
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SPEAKER_02: Like he he's here every time, you know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: Women though, their friendships are based on things that are the opposite of innocent.
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SPEAKER_02: They're based on things that can this bitch take a gunshot for me.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm pretty, I don't fight.
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SPEAKER_02: But this bitch is ugly enough that she'll fight.
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SPEAKER_02: So she's my friend.
5:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so it's what can you do for me?
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SPEAKER_02: This bitch got a car.
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SPEAKER_02: And not just any car.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm driving a Nissan Ultima.
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SPEAKER_02: This bitch is driving a Benz.
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SPEAKER_02: I'ma hang out with her.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: This bitch got the jewelry plug.
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SPEAKER_02: This bitch be around the niggas.
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SPEAKER_02: The niggas buy this girl bottles.
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SPEAKER_02: Bottles.
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SPEAKER_02: So this is my friend.
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SPEAKER_02: This is when we go out.
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SPEAKER_02: I may not be the bell of the ball, but I get the niggas that she's not giving no attention to, and we getting bottles.
6:14
SPEAKER_02: Ladies, if anything I'm saying has offended you, come here and defend yourself.
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SPEAKER_02: You're really welcome.
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SPEAKER_02: Open invitation.
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SPEAKER_02: But that's just for my travels in the world, that's just always been my opinion on women's friendships.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm not saying that all women's friendships are bullshit.
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SPEAKER_02: My girl has a gang of friends that they ride or die for each other.
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SPEAKER_02: It doesn't matter what car they're driving or not.
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SPEAKER_02: But none of them is ugly.
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SPEAKER_02: Niggas be having ugly friends, and it's okay.
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SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta pay attention to these things.
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SPEAKER_02: You gotta pay attention.
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SPEAKER_02: But um women are weird.
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SPEAKER_02: Somebody, you know what's funny?
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SPEAKER_02: You just said that we don't give enough credit on why that women are evil.
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SPEAKER_02: Did you say evil?
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SPEAKER_02: Is that the word you used?
6:56
SPEAKER_02: That's the word I wanted to use.
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SPEAKER_02: You probably probably heard it.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I said that, but I said it now.
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SPEAKER_02: I'll stand on that.
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SPEAKER_02: A couple people have said that in the past week to me that like, yo, like women are actually bad people.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no, women are horrible human beings.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't even know if they're human.
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SPEAKER_02: But be honestly, it's almost like it's like it's like alcohol.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
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SPEAKER_01: It's like it's so bad for you.
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SPEAKER_01: So all the time advice.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's bad for you.
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SPEAKER_02: But the part the what it makes, how it makes you feel, how it what it does, what it makes it helps you forget things, whatever case is the the the point I'm making is that the vagina is so powerful.
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SPEAKER_02: Can I like add on?
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SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
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SPEAKER_02: Alcohol is a social social lubricant.
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SPEAKER_02: Right.
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SPEAKER_02: What is a vagina?
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SPEAKER_02: What is it?
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SPEAKER_02: It is the lubricant.
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SPEAKER_02: It's the life lubricant.
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SPEAKER_02: That's what it is.
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SPEAKER_02: We from the minute we exit a vagina, we are spending every minute of our camera right back in.
8:03
SPEAKER_02: That's comfort for us.
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SPEAKER_02: That's day one.
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SPEAKER_02: We slid out and we've been trying to claw our way back in.
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SPEAKER_02: That vision was probably crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: But that listen, we here, we here.
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SPEAKER_02: Um, let me tell you about my weekend though, bro.
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SPEAKER_02: If you don't mind.
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SPEAKER_02: This actually happened probably two weekends ago.
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SPEAKER_02: I want to shout out my man Dave.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he wants people to know his last name.
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SPEAKER_02: It's good, Dave.
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SPEAKER_02: Shout out my man Dave.
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SPEAKER_02: Yo, Dave is, I don't want to be disrespectful.
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SPEAKER_02: He's probably 5'6, 120 pounds.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm and I'm I'm not good at obviously I'm not good at it.
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SPEAKER_02: See, what why is the truth disrespect?
8:35
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't think it's true.
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SPEAKER_02: I don't know if it's true.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh.
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SPEAKER_02: This is just for my gaze.
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SPEAKER_02: So say 5'10 or something.
8:40
SPEAKER_02: He's definitely not 5'10.
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SPEAKER_02: But the size matters in this moment, Paul's, because I'm gonna explain.
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SPEAKER_02: I asked Dave to be my jujitsu sensei.
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SPEAKER_02: Dave is not a big dude at all.
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SPEAKER_02: Dave fucked me up for like two hours.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, fucked me up.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm not a small guy, I'm not a weak guy.
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SPEAKER_02: He he put me in positions that I was advancing.
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SPEAKER_02: All right, so imagine if you started off a fight having a dude in the headlock and losing that fight.
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SPEAKER_02: That's the type of shit Dave was doing to me.
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SPEAKER_02: And you had him in the strongest of strong.
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SPEAKER_02: He told me how to do it.
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SPEAKER_02: Like, yo, put your hand here, put it here, don't let me out.
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SPEAKER_02: And do kill me.
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SPEAKER_02: Pause.
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SPEAKER_02: It wasn't gonna happen.
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SPEAKER_02: In three moves, he was like, Dave, Dave had me, he had me in the same position.
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SPEAKER_02: Pause.
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SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
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SPEAKER_02: He fucked me up.
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SPEAKER_02: Dave is uh, and he's like a blue belt.
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SPEAKER_02: So he's not even done with his career yet.
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SPEAKER_02: Jiu Jutsu.
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SPEAKER_02: And I'm twice his size, probably twice his strength, and he fucked me up for two hours.
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SPEAKER_02: What does jujutsu?
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SPEAKER_02: What does your jujutsu?
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SPEAKER_02: Huh?
9:45
SPEAKER_02: Ju?
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SPEAKER_02: Nah, Jujitsu.
9:47
SPEAKER_02: No, that's how you say it.
9:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, don't put too much pause behind that word because it's trying to help you out.
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SPEAKER_02: But jujutsu?
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SPEAKER_02: Say it faster.
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SPEAKER_02: Nah, but I we gotta break it down.
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SPEAKER_02: Okay.
9:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: Say it.
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SPEAKER_02: Ju jujutsu.
9:59
SPEAKER_02: That's all I've been saying.
10:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I've been to say the last part.
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SPEAKER_02: But yeah, um, is that because I know my my dad is a is a black belt in Taekwondo.
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SPEAKER_02: Oh no, he be fucking niggas up.
10:08
SPEAKER_02: That's another one.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he got I got stories about him.
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SPEAKER_02: Fucking, but not fucking people up.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_02: I think any nigga that's a black belt in anything, he can do whatever he can fuck whatever he wants.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: That's not my problem.
10:18
SPEAKER_02: That's not my business.
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SPEAKER_02: But um, I know they specialize in kicking.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that's their big thing.
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SPEAKER_02: What is jujitsu's big thing?
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SPEAKER_02: Breaking a nigga up, choking a nigga out.
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SPEAKER_02: Yo, you traumatized.
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SPEAKER_02: Nigga, he walked me up for two hours, bro.
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SPEAKER_02: Straight up.
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SPEAKER_02: I couldn't, I couldn't fuck with him.
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SPEAKER_02: Why'd you choose him to be a sensei?
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SPEAKER_02: You knew he was a challenge.
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SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no, not a challenge.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, Dave.
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SPEAKER_02: Yo, Dave, you got him.
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SPEAKER_02: Ain't no challenges in Sensei.
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SPEAKER_02: I think I thought um he's not even he's not even Japanese.
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SPEAKER_02: I'm wild.
10:44
SPEAKER_02: But um, nah, I chose Dave because he's I knew he was, he's he's my man.
10:48
SPEAKER_02: And I knew he's he's he's combat sports, bro.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
10:51
SPEAKER_02: Because we didn't do uh just uh jujitsu.
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SPEAKER_02: We did um we did Muay Thai, very basic stuff, and we did um American boxing.
11:00
SPEAKER_02: So we he put me through a little gauntlet.
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SPEAKER_02: But the jujitsu part was where I really want to get myself into, like for real, for real.
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SPEAKER_02: Because I think it's dope.
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SPEAKER_02: It's it's you know, it's discipline.
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SPEAKER_02: It's um I already know how to throw a punch.
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SPEAKER_02: Healthy.
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SPEAKER_02: It's healthy, yeah.
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SPEAKER_02: I already know how to throw a punch.
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SPEAKER_02: I already, I'm a big dude.
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SPEAKER_02: Now I want to know how to break a nigga up.
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SPEAKER_02: Which cause because jujitsu is not about strength, it's not about like submissive moves.
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SPEAKER_02: You break a nigga arm, you put a nigga in the fiend, knock him out, break a leg.
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SPEAKER_02: Like uh Dave shit, he liked to do the leg lock.
11:29
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna say Rick Flair shit.
11:30
SPEAKER_02: Well, what's going on, bro?
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SPEAKER_02: No, I'm no, I'm thinking about how painful.
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SPEAKER_02: No, there's no pause.
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SPEAKER_02: I thought he was like a leg.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I'm black.
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SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
11:38
SPEAKER_02: So the nigga the first thing he told me was this whole thing is a pause.
11:43
SPEAKER_02: Like that's how we used to because Dave was nearly wrestling is all that is.
11:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a pause off rip.
11:48
SPEAKER_02: He was like, this whole thing is a pause.
11:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was like, I've been over.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: No, no, he just said getting your knees, though.
11:54
SPEAKER_02: That was crazy, but uh sensei.
11:56
SPEAKER_02: Luckily, you chose somebody that doesn't have a pod to cut your ass.
11:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's it.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's about that's my man.
12:01
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, that yeah, I was it was dope though.
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SPEAKER_02: I had a really good time, and he he gave me a lot of props.
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SPEAKER_02: He was like, most people uh when they do jujitsu, they do a lot of spazzing because it's like your natural reaction to somebody holding you in some of these positions is to spaz.
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SPEAKER_02: And not only can that hurt you, but it can also hurt the guy that is instructing you or putting you in those positions.
12:21
SPEAKER_02: So he said I didn't spaz a lot.
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SPEAKER_02: Like I was using technique, not just because your instinct is just I can just overpower you to get out of this.
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SPEAKER_02: But there's the technique is actually the best way to get out of it because it doesn't leave you gassed.
12:31
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing about jujitsu is that you want to exert the least amount of energy as possible to do these moves because once you get the move in, that's when you want to gas out to get the person, break their arm, uh choke them out, snap their leg.
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SPEAKER_02: Most of this is just tapping on.
12:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you just tap.
12:46
SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't tap, the result is you break your leg and then you know you can't fight no more.
12:50
SPEAKER_02: What real quick, what percentage of women do you think can win a fight against what percentage of men?
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SPEAKER_02: If you understand what I'm saying.
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SPEAKER_01: So this is how I look at it.
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SPEAKER_02: The top 1% of women versus the top 1% of men is 100% the man's gonna win.
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SPEAKER_02: 100%.
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SPEAKER_02: The man like the best figure of the wheel.
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SPEAKER_02: The best fighter of women versus the best fighter of man, there's no contest.
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SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
13:16
SPEAKER_02: So the best fighter of women has to fight the average or below average man to So the 1% of women versus the average man, to me, I still think the men win that 60-40.
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SPEAKER_02: Now, the 1% of women versus the bottom percentage of men, that's more like 45-55 in favor of the woman.
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SPEAKER_02: And it's it's still a chance that she gets fucked up by that below average man because the strength is just too unmatched.
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SPEAKER_02: It's just biologically, we're just not, we're just made too different.
13:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
13:47
SPEAKER_02: But um doesn't mean they're doesn't mean they're weaker.
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SPEAKER_02: No, absolutely not.
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SPEAKER_02: It means they're different.
13:51
SPEAKER_02: No, but the in jujitsu though, I think in that specific, because there's no striking.
13:56
SPEAKER_02: In that specific uh discipline of martial art, I think women would have a higher percentage against the average man.
14:02
SPEAKER_02: Because that's not a strength.
14:04
SPEAKER_02: Funny enough, there's this dude.
14:06
SPEAKER_02: This is why I wish Cash is here.
14:07
SPEAKER_02: There was this dude on Mighty Mouse, like he's an MMA like god, and he fought remember MMA is is striking too.
14:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he fought in like a jujitsu tournament against a guy that was like twice his size, and he beat him.
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SPEAKER_02: That guy is in the 1%, Mighty Bounce is in the 1%, and that guy was like twice his size, and Mighty Mouse beat him because his technique is so good.
14:30
SPEAKER_02: So that just goes to show you once your technique is on point with that specific discipline, and that's why I think jujitsu is dope.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: Because Dave, like I said, I'm twice his size, and it did not mean anything.
14:39
SPEAKER_02: It meant literally nothing.
14:40
SPEAKER_02: He literally was laughing at me.
14:41
SPEAKER_02: Like I had him in the hold.
14:43
SPEAKER_02: He put himself in the worst possible position, like a rear-naked choke, and he got up out of there.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: Like it was not he didn't, he wasn't even breathing.
14:49
SPEAKER_02: I was done.
14:50
SPEAKER_02: Yo, Dave, AG gave you grace, right?
14:52
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nah, nah.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: AG gave you grace.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no.
14:54
SPEAKER_02: Dave, forgive him.
14:55
SPEAKER_02: He doesn't know what he's saying.
14:56
SPEAKER_02: Will y'all go next time?
14:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
14:57
SPEAKER_02: That nigga's whooping my heart.
14:58
SPEAKER_02: He's bringing the rip.
14:59
SPEAKER_02: No, I told Dave, like, yo, every time, because he's uh he's out in Cali right now and he's like, he comes like every so often.
15:04
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, we're gonna do this every time.
15:05
SPEAKER_02: He he put me onto a gym that I'm gonna I think I'm gonna fuck with.
15:08
SPEAKER_02: I really like Jiu-Jitsu.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: It's dope.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: I think we should do as a team, we should do one class together.
15:12
SPEAKER_02: I'm ahead of the game, so I probably fuck y'all niggas up right now.
15:16
SPEAKER_02: See what you did, Dave?
15:17
SPEAKER_02: Now you now you think I did uh make it to the yellow belt in karate.
15:24
SPEAKER_02: Uh karate's bullshit.
15:26
SPEAKER_02: You just said my dad be fucking niggas up.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: Taekwondo.
15:28
SPEAKER_02: No, that's what I mean.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: That's what I mean.
15:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, no, yeah.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: Taekwondo.
15:30
SPEAKER_02: Now you know what you're doing.
15:31
SPEAKER_02: See, uh they're different?
15:33
SPEAKER_02: All of these shits are different.
15:34
SPEAKER_02: I thought karate was just like, let me stop.
15:37
SPEAKER_02: Alright, you know what?
15:38
SPEAKER_02: You was about to be stupid.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
15:39
SPEAKER_02: No, not stupid.
15:40
SPEAKER_02: He was about to be racist.
15:42
SPEAKER_02: That's what you was about to do.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Nah, karate is uh is is is it's bullshit.
15:47
SPEAKER_02: To me.
15:48
SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say I thought karate is how you say taekwondo in English.
15:52
SPEAKER_02: That thought that's that was racist.
15:54
SPEAKER_02: And your dad's gonna fuck you up when you hit it.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna he gonna learn you something.
15:58
SPEAKER_02: But um, ladies and gentlemen, I think it's time for us to get into some uh topics and topics and topics.
16:03
SPEAKER_02: Um I I always want to start with um with music.
16:07
SPEAKER_02: You know how I how I give it up.
16:08
SPEAKER_02: And one of my favorite musicians, and I call him a musician because that's what he is.
16:12
SPEAKER_02: This first quarter is about to be exciting.
16:14
SPEAKER_02: Is back his bike.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: Uh J.
16:16
SPEAKER_02: Cole has returned to the scene after he fled, people would say uh a battle that he should have been participating in.
16:27
SPEAKER_02: But he's back, J.
16:28
SPEAKER_02: Cole's back, and I feel like he could have won.
16:30
SPEAKER_02: That's the that's the crazy part.
16:32
SPEAKER_01: Define that.
16:33
SPEAKER_01: One how he would have beat both Kendrick and I think Drake.
16:37
SPEAKER_01: Look what Kendrick won with.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: No, but like he won off of the like But I'm just saying, I don't think Kendrick could have won.
16:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the the the the pedal thing.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: Can't pedal J.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
16:52
SPEAKER_02: Can't pedal J.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: Cole won.
16:53
SPEAKER_02: Two, J.
16:54
SPEAKER_02: Cole is not in Drake's position where they were looking to see Drake lose.
16:57
SPEAKER_02: They're not looking to see J.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: Cole lose.
16:59
SPEAKER_02: So they're gonna give J.
17:00
SPEAKER_02: Cole a fair Let me ask you a question.
17:02
SPEAKER_02: What would that have what would that look like?
17:05
SPEAKER_02: J.
17:05
SPEAKER_02: Cole and Kendrick?
17:06
SPEAKER_02: Well, no, like okay.
17:09
SPEAKER_02: Was it a two-front war for Kendrick?
17:11
SPEAKER_02: Like he was gonna have to battle Drake and J.
17:13
SPEAKER_02: Cole, or was it the three of them gonna be simultaneously dissing each other?
17:17
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Do you see what J.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: Cole robbed us of?
17:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
17:20
SPEAKER_02: So what would have been No, the the I think Kendrick's plan, if you listen to the like that verse, was I'm it's me versus both of y'all.
17:30
SPEAKER_02: Now the backstory to the first person shooter song, I don't know if you're familiar with.
17:34
SPEAKER_02: I am, but they might not be.
17:35
SPEAKER_02: Drake called Kendrick to be on that song.
17:39
SPEAKER_02: Drake wanted that song to be a big three song.
17:42
SPEAKER_02: People say it's the white in him, but you know, like trying to put differences aside, let's do business, whatever the case is.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: We're we're all great.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: Now, people want to spin and say that Drake was doing that because he was scared of Kendrick, and instead of continuing the behind-the-scenes beef, he tried to patch it up by doing that.
17:56
SPEAKER_02: According to whatever sources, um Kendrick said, fuck that.
18:02
SPEAKER_02: Didn't respond to Drake, didn't call him back, didn't just like igged him.
18:06
SPEAKER_02: So Drake and Ken just Drake and J.
18:08
SPEAKER_02: Cole do that song.
18:09
SPEAKER_02: Now, there are what I deem shots at Kendrick from both J.
18:15
SPEAKER_02: Cole and Drake on that song.
18:16
SPEAKER_02: Because the what?
18:18
SPEAKER_02: Um more I think more so Cole had more shots on that song than Drake.
18:24
SPEAKER_02: But Drake already shot his shots in other songs.
18:25
SPEAKER_02: So there's already Kendrick smoked there.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: So in this song, Cole did say a certain thing.
18:30
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, fast forward, in the light of that song, he said, fuck a big three.
18:34
SPEAKER_02: It's just big me.
18:35
SPEAKER_02: It's just big me.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: The way I interpret it, how most people interpret it, is that if you say fuck the big three, then you're saying fuck everyone in the big three.
18:44
SPEAKER_02: That would be J.
18:45
SPEAKER_02: Cole and Drake.
18:46
SPEAKER_02: And he referenced the song First Person Shooter in that song.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
18:49
SPEAKER_02: He said, um he he referenced the song first person shooter.
18:54
SPEAKER_02: And anyway, he he he's saying, like, fuck both of y'all.
18:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, one, I feel like he J.
18:58
SPEAKER_02: Cole was his man's and he feel like J.
19:00
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: You know, people don't like people don't like sometimes when their friends are neutral.
19:07
SPEAKER_02: They they want their friends to pick a side.
19:09
SPEAKER_02: What type of nigga are you?
19:11
SPEAKER_02: I could be neutral.
19:12
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
19:13
SPEAKER_02: If you and be me and you beefing, right?
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
19:15
SPEAKER_02: Your man since childhood.
19:18
SPEAKER_02: He knows me, but that's your man since childhood.
19:21
SPEAKER_02: What's he supposed to do?
19:23
SPEAKER_02: But it's my it's my man's.
19:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he knows me.
19:26
SPEAKER_02: But no, it's not the same.
19:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's are y'all best friends or y'all.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: I just we cool.
19:32
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: We we see each other, I dap him like, hey, what's going on?
19:35
SPEAKER_02: If I if I was to cease to exist, would y'all ever speak?
19:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: So y'all y'all have a friendship.
19:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but it's not like that's not my man's.
19:41
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
19:42
SPEAKER_02: If you my man, like, for example, my best friend right now, let's say I have a best friend.
19:46
SPEAKER_02: From I do.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: No, you do.
19:47
SPEAKER_02: Don't don't No, I do, I do it.
19:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, don't do that.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: I bring him in.
19:49
SPEAKER_02: Yo, it's A G, whatever.
19:51
SPEAKER_02: We go two years and y'all, y'all cool.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
19:53
SPEAKER_02: If it's smoke, now I'm not saying he has to fight you when he sees you.
19:57
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
19:58
SPEAKER_02: But he can say, yo, AG, good to see you.
20:00
SPEAKER_02: But you know, I can't fuck with you.
20:02
SPEAKER_02: You got some shit going on with my man's.
20:04
SPEAKER_02: It's gonna look a little funny.
20:05
SPEAKER_02: If I'm parlaying with you.
20:07
SPEAKER_02: He can't politic.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: He can't parlay.
20:08
SPEAKER_02: Can't politic.
20:09
SPEAKER_02: Don't gotta, he's like your op, but gotta keep it cool.
20:13
SPEAKER_02: You see, I don't know what type of nigga I am.
20:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
20:17
SPEAKER_02: I have to be put in a situation.
20:19
SPEAKER_02: Now, let me preface this with also saying that as my man, if I'm wrong, if I wronged AG, even though he's telling you that, he should be like barking on me, like, bro, you like that's foul.
20:33
SPEAKER_02: Like you fucking bugging and like, you know.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: I know the type of nigga I am if I'm your man's though.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm riding with the home team regardless.
20:40
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
20:40
SPEAKER_02: So if you beefing with somebody that I know, but I'm your man's, like, I'm gonna side with you.
20:46
SPEAKER_02: Right.
20:47
SPEAKER_02: Whether you're wrong or right.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
20:48
SPEAKER_02: That's that's how I am.
20:49
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know what I expect from my peoples, though.
20:53
SPEAKER_02: If me and you are beefing, what do you expect from Toon?
20:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
20:57
SPEAKER_02: It would have to happen.
20:59
SPEAKER_02: Would I be upset if I seen Toon out partying with you in the midst of our beef?
21:05
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how I would feel about that.
21:07
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
21:08
SPEAKER_02: I might be fucked Toon too.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: I might be.
21:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
21:13
SPEAKER_02: Well, so I guess we kind of agree.
21:16
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like we kind of agree.
21:17
SPEAKER_02: You said if you you riding with home team, I'm telling you, my man should ride with home team.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: He shouldn't, he shouldn't, like I said, he I don't want him politicking and party.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: So what J.
21:25
SPEAKER_02: Cole was supposed to do.
21:27
SPEAKER_02: But Jake, they all met at this red.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
21:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, what would that battle look like?
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Is J.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
21:32
SPEAKER_02: No, J.
21:33
SPEAKER_02: Cole's supposed to battle versus Kendrick because Kendrick is the one that dissed him.
21:36
SPEAKER_02: So Kendrick was supposed to battle both of them.
21:39
SPEAKER_02: Yes, and that's what Kendrick wanted.
21:40
SPEAKER_02: And he would have won that regardless.
21:42
SPEAKER_02: Because if I lose, y'all jump me.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: If I win, y'all niggas are pussy.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: Because y'all can't beat me.
21:46
SPEAKER_02: But nobody's saying that Drake won regardless because everybody jumped him.
21:50
SPEAKER_02: And it was 20 V1.
21:51
SPEAKER_02: But nobody wants to say Drake won.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
21:53
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: But that's what I'm saying.
21:54
SPEAKER_02: When they like you, they there's nothing you could do wrong.
21:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a fact.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: That's a fact.
21:57
SPEAKER_02: If you ask for the jump, and it's not a Physical jump.
22:00
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
22:01
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, so it's like, even if they're jumping you, like, come on, you could write two verses.
22:05
SPEAKER_02: Look how many songs Kendrick put out.
22:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, you could I think this is the most diss tracks in a popular rap beef ever.
22:13
SPEAKER_02: Because Jay-Z and Nas only got like two songs.
22:16
SPEAKER_02: Would you say that Drake's and Joe Buddons was a popular rap beef?
22:20
SPEAKER_02: No disrespect.
22:21
SPEAKER_02: I see.
22:22
SPEAKER_02: Who the fuck is so funny?
22:25
SPEAKER_02: What are you talking about?
22:26
SPEAKER_02: He knows me.
22:28
SPEAKER_02: Tell him to come on the pod.
22:30
SPEAKER_02: But um, okay.
22:31
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, yeah, yeah.
22:32
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
22:33
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
22:34
SPEAKER_02: It is the most songs in a rap beef.
22:35
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, J.
22:36
SPEAKER_02: Cole's coming back.
22:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, the fall off is here, and I'm excited.
22:41
SPEAKER_02: I am hell of excited.
22:42
SPEAKER_02: I am excited for a lot of different reasons, though.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
22:45
SPEAKER_02: One, is he gonna be able to rap this?
22:51
SPEAKER_02: I am the best rapper, and none of y'all wanna fuck with me.
22:55
SPEAKER_02: Can he make records like that anymore?
22:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh no.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: He can do whatever he wants.
23:00
SPEAKER_01: Should he make records like that anymore?
23:08
SPEAKER_02: If hypothetically, if LeBron and and Jordan were playing at the same time, yes, sir, and LeBron challenged Jordan to a one-on-one, yes, and Jordan denied, declined, can he still go around and say I'm the best ever?
23:23
SPEAKER_02: Absolutely not.
23:25
SPEAKER_01: He he actually he actually should probably retire.
23:30
SPEAKER_02: He shouldn't play basketball anymore.
23:33
SPEAKER_02: That far.
23:34
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
23:35
SPEAKER_02: Now um I think in rap, bro, there's exceptions to the rule, I think.
23:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I gotta hear this.
23:42
SPEAKER_02: There's exceptions to the rule.
23:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, like you said, Jay and Az, uh, Kendrick, Cole, and Drake.
23:50
SPEAKER_02: If you want to throw in like uh Andre 3000 or like a like a super lyrical, very talented uh rapper, there's exceptions to the rule.
23:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, and J.
24:00
SPEAKER_02: Cole explained why he stood out the beef in that song he dropped uh maybe like a year ago.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
24:06
SPEAKER_02: And um And it said right with his spirit.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: No, that's what he said on stage.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, that he said that on the song too, but he said one of the bars was I wouldn't have I wouldn't have beat I wouldn't have gained the foe, I would have lost the bro.
24:24
SPEAKER_02: Aww.
24:25
SPEAKER_02: Don't do that.
24:26
SPEAKER_02: That's this is hip hop.
24:27
SPEAKER_02: He couldn't sleep.
24:28
SPEAKER_02: He couldn't sleep.
24:29
SPEAKER_02: Then he should retire.
24:31
SPEAKER_02: Because what happens if if um some nigga diss him tomorrow?
24:35
SPEAKER_02: But that's the thing.
24:37
SPEAKER_02: If if if Toon does something to you, yeah, it's different than if that's true.
24:42
SPEAKER_02: Someone, you know what I'm saying?
24:43
SPEAKER_02: You might give Toon some grace.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah.
24:44
SPEAKER_02: Even if Toon's dead wrong, even if Toon made you look crazy.
24:47
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
24:48
SPEAKER_02: Guys, that's my man.
24:49
SPEAKER_02: He bugged out, he made me look crazy, but I'ma eat it.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: Fact.
24:52
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
24:53
SPEAKER_02: But don't think, but again, for the since that apology, everybody has been saying he needs to make an example out of somebody.
25:01
SPEAKER_02: Because now niggas think he's sweet.
25:03
SPEAKER_02: I'm surprised people ain't trying, but I think it's because people really know.
25:06
SPEAKER_02: All niggas know.
25:07
SPEAKER_02: Because even though he apologized, the this record went out.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
25:10
SPEAKER_02: And it wasn't Trump.
25:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was not.
25:12
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
25:12
SPEAKER_02: So it's like even you can see, like, he technically still did diss him.
25:17
SPEAKER_02: No, he literally dissed him.
25:18
SPEAKER_02: He literally still dissed him.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: Well, he took it back.
25:20
SPEAKER_02: He took it, but he just took it back.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: That's not hip-hop.
25:23
SPEAKER_02: It's not, but I think people still saw the potential.
25:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, he could have gone there.
25:27
SPEAKER_02: It could have, you know, he he is one of those, like the greatest battle that never was, man.
25:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
25:33
SPEAKER_02: But um I think it would have been the greatest lyrical battle.
25:38
SPEAKER_02: And I think the Kendrick and Drake would have, I mean, yeah, would have been the most entertaining.
25:43
SPEAKER_02: It was it was the most insane, but it'd been it would have been the most lyrical if Kendrick kept it P.
25:50
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you still on that?
25:51
SPEAKER_02: All right, he literally kept it P, though.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: Just a P you didn't like.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Pause.
25:54
SPEAKER_02: Um Yeah.
25:57
SPEAKER_02: The second reason I'm excited is because J.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: Cole can rap.
26:03
SPEAKER_02: Did you hear the song he dropped?
26:04
SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're gonna talk about that.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: He can rap.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: This guy can fucking rap.
26:10
SPEAKER_02: He might be so good at rapping that we don't give a fuck that he backed out that beef.
26:14
SPEAKER_02: That's the potential.
26:16
SPEAKER_02: Which is why he can still talk.
26:18
SPEAKER_02: Backed out that beef is crazy, bro.
26:20
SPEAKER_02: You yo, you gotta hold me to task, bro.
26:26
SPEAKER_02: That was crazy.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: That was wow.
26:28
SPEAKER_02: Yo, you the way he was anyways.
26:32
SPEAKER_02: I'm clipping that.
26:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's all good.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, he's so good at rapping that niggas might not give a fuck that he just was like, nah.
26:44
SPEAKER_02: But then I'm gonna get angry all over again because let's talk about the track.
26:47
SPEAKER_02: Um, what is it called?
26:48
SPEAKER_02: This two?
26:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh this two track two.
26:51
SPEAKER_02: This two track two doesn't mean it's gonna be on an album necessarily.
26:55
SPEAKER_02: Or do you think it has to be?
26:56
SPEAKER_02: I think it has to be.
26:57
SPEAKER_02: This is I think this part of the rollout.
26:58
SPEAKER_02: And and the reception is getting, he better put that.
27:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just like the number one trending thing on everything.
27:03
SPEAKER_02: It has a video.
27:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
27:05
SPEAKER_02: I think he's so dope that it might it might be on like the bonus.
27:08
SPEAKER_02: It might not this could be a throwaway.
27:10
SPEAKER_02: That's definitely on the album.
27:11
SPEAKER_02: I'm feeling that you're doing it.
27:12
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, if it was a throwaway, once he's seen how people are like, what the fuck?
27:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got it.
27:17
SPEAKER_02: Especially in this streaming era.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: He's wrapped in Hey, we got you, gotcha.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: Listen to you.
27:23
SPEAKER_02: I wanna now just going off of the title.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Are we are we thinking double album?
27:29
SPEAKER_02: I think you have to in this era.
27:30
SPEAKER_02: He's going double album.
27:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
27:32
SPEAKER_02: Because we're gonna talk about another album down the line that's technically a double album.
27:36
SPEAKER_02: And this is this is uh the fall off.
27:38
SPEAKER_02: Double trash.
27:40
SPEAKER_02: Hey, it's New York.
27:42
SPEAKER_02: This is this is this is the the the that was the fall-off.
27:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was the fall.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
27:50
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, this is the the fall off.
27:52
SPEAKER_02: This is it.
27:53
SPEAKER_02: This is his retirement album.
27:54
SPEAKER_02: This is his black album.
27:55
SPEAKER_02: This is what Jay-Z did.
27:57
SPEAKER_02: Does he come back?
27:58
SPEAKER_02: We'll never hear from him again.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
28:00
SPEAKER_02: So this is his Magnus.
28:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh but I love it.
28:03
SPEAKER_02: Um, the song.
28:04
SPEAKER_02: I'll I'll let you go first.
28:07
SPEAKER_02: You describe it the way that you experience the track.
28:12
SPEAKER_02: Well, I didn't know what to expect.
28:14
SPEAKER_02: Um, I didn't I didn't expect concept.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: I thought I expected um addressing some of the things that happened.
28:21
SPEAKER_02: You didn't expect concept from J.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Go.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Not on that.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: Oh, not on the record.
28:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
28:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do accept, yeah, but not on that song.
28:27
SPEAKER_02: Um to be honest, as the video blew me away almost just as much as this the song.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Video was hard.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: And I seen a lot of K-bots, no disrespect, trying to say that he stole Kendrick Swag.
28:39
SPEAKER_02: With the video?
28:40
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
28:42
SPEAKER_02: On to better music.
28:44
SPEAKER_02: Um but um yeah, bro, the way he he broke down his life in reverse and how he he broke down his life in reverse, but then he also, if I'm not mistaken, because I heard it only twice, he also broke down of how his life would have been different.
29:03
SPEAKER_02: Oh, bro.
29:04
SPEAKER_02: Like it was like a double yo, okay.
29:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry, child.
29:08
SPEAKER_02: I'm a rap nerd.
29:09
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
29:10
SPEAKER_02: So Nas has this song called Rewind.
29:14
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
29:16
SPEAKER_02: I am a Nas hater because I'm a Jay-Z fan.
29:19
SPEAKER_02: This is just music.
29:20
SPEAKER_02: I find if I see Nas today, I dab him Queens all day.
29:24
SPEAKER_02: Queens Bridge is where all my niggas are from.
29:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm a second son of Queensbridge.
29:27
SPEAKER_02: Shout out to Queensbridge.
29:28
SPEAKER_02: But Nas is a person that he has to wow me for me to give him any props because it's it's smoke forever musically.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: Real quick, none of the King's disease albums wowed you.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, all of them did.
29:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but you know, Rewind is a song that it sucks as a song.
29:46
SPEAKER_02: Like when you listen to it, it's one of those songs you put on when you're trying to like get into your like, yo, this is this concept is dope.
29:52
SPEAKER_02: Look what he did here.
29:53
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a lyrical exercise, but the song itself is not a song I want to listen to just like when I'm chilling.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Jay what J.
30:02
SPEAKER_02: Cole did with this was he took the concept of rewind.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: He not only did he make it a song that I want to listen to, because I want that it's a song, it's not a project, it's not an art piece of art, it's a song, it's a musical journey.
30:16
SPEAKER_02: But the nigga did it like we know his life already.
30:20
SPEAKER_02: This is how my life would have been if it went back, yo.
30:26
SPEAKER_02: Yo, yo, it's it's it's really uh leaves you at a loss for words.
30:30
SPEAKER_02: That shit is like I want to ask the nigga how he wrote that.
30:35
SPEAKER_02: Like, how did you because easy?
30:37
SPEAKER_02: I got the template of rewind.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: I any nigga, once Nas drop rewind, it's easy to do it.
30:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the the girls put the nut back in my dick.
30:43
SPEAKER_02: That's hard.
30:45
SPEAKER_02: He was spending some way more intricate.
30:47
SPEAKER_02: But it was like I watched a movie, it was a three-minute movie.
30:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was a Spielberg, it was a fucking an AG when I started doing my movies.
30:56
SPEAKER_02: It was that.
30:57
SPEAKER_02: It was and if you listen to rap, you understood the movie.
31:01
SPEAKER_02: It didn't confuse you like you were able to follow it.
31:03
SPEAKER_02: Yo, and it's a song, it's something that I want to replay again and again because the beat.
31:07
SPEAKER_02: I can listen to because the beat is good.
31:08
SPEAKER_02: No disrespect to knowledge.
31:10
SPEAKER_02: All disrespect to knows.
31:11
SPEAKER_02: The beat, the beat was good.
31:13
SPEAKER_02: The the oh man.
31:15
SPEAKER_02: Yo, Jake, I'm excited though.
31:17
SPEAKER_02: I haven't been excited about music in a very, very long time.
31:20
SPEAKER_02: Because I feel like the state of hip hop is in a very sad place, but that's not hip-hop's fault, that's the powers that be.
31:26
SPEAKER_02: But now I also don't think that on the album is gonna be called this track.
31:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean, uh track to this two.
31:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: You think he's gonna title it?
31:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think he'll title it.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
31:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, you know what's unfortunate though?
31:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, him and Kendrick um benefit off of this mystique thing.
31:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
31:47
SPEAKER_02: Because no one.
31:51
SPEAKER_02: Not no one, but like mainstream doesn't care about rap that much, where they want to really know that much about you and and and also how they carry themselves.
32:01
SPEAKER_02: And I think Drake got even not, even because he could have gone the Mystique way, but I don't think he would have been as big.
32:07
SPEAKER_02: He had Oh, hell no.
32:08
SPEAKER_02: So his pro he has to do what they call like the antics because like that's his position in the ecosystem.
32:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
32:16
SPEAKER_02: And I think he gets a bad rap.
32:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, like why he don't just shut the fuck up.
32:18
SPEAKER_02: Why Snoop don't get a bad rap?
32:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm a new Drake fan.
32:25
SPEAKER_02: If y'all niggas had me during the great wars, I think y'all would have been did better as fans.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: I just wasn't a fan when it was like the time.
32:31
SPEAKER_02: Y'all missed out.
32:32
SPEAKER_02: Is this the first war that you followed of Drake?
32:34
SPEAKER_02: He's been war.
32:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, I'm a hip hop historian.
32:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, you by the way, watching back the last episode, the way you quoted that Stay Scheman verse, I respect it.
32:44
SPEAKER_02: Talks.
32:45
SPEAKER_02: But so you've you've witnessed war.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I just was never a fan of the nigga with a thumb with eyebrows.
32:50
SPEAKER_02: I just was not.
32:51
SPEAKER_02: A thumb with eyebrows.
32:53
SPEAKER_02: That's how Charlemagne say Drake look.
32:55
SPEAKER_02: Charlemagne?
32:56
SPEAKER_02: Charlemagne?
32:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you don't got respect for nobody.
32:59
SPEAKER_02: 200 mil.
33:00
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
33:01
SPEAKER_02: I fuck with Charlemagne.
33:03
SPEAKER_02: I fuck with Charlemagne.
33:04
SPEAKER_02: But um, I was a fruity and slip.
33:05
SPEAKER_02: And it's crazy how it's funny how like him and J.
33:08
SPEAKER_02: Cole don't get the same look.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: Look.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: They're exactly the same.
33:14
SPEAKER_02: White mother, black dad.
33:16
SPEAKER_02: It's because um J.
33:18
SPEAKER_02: Cole has never, ever touched upon his whiteness.
33:23
SPEAKER_02: Drake has touched upon his whiteness.
33:25
SPEAKER_02: Wouldn't that make Drake more authentic?
33:28
SPEAKER_02: Not necessarily, because if it's authentic for J.
33:31
SPEAKER_02: Cole to just be, I never felt white.
33:35
SPEAKER_02: I never had whiteness.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: The only white part of me was maybe my mother's skin complexion.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: But they're mad at Drake for saying I felt black.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: I niggas want to be mad at Drake because Drake is an easy target.
33:48
SPEAKER_02: And Drake has made himself a target because in the ecosystem of hip-hop, he had to be.
33:53
SPEAKER_02: Because if Drake is not Drake, we don't have the peaks that hip-hop hit before this downtrodden year that we've been in, or two years now, I think it's been the peaks that we hit, we don't get that.
34:06
SPEAKER_02: Jay-Z got a ball, right?
34:08
SPEAKER_02: I used to want to rhyme like common sense.
34:11
SPEAKER_02: Something, something, something.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: I haven't rhyme like common sense.
34:14
SPEAKER_02: It's because when you start getting that money, this liberal, brilliant, I want to be a backpacker.
34:21
SPEAKER_02: You when you are the man, you gotta leave that shit alone.
34:25
SPEAKER_02: Even if that's what you truly love, you have a responsibility to the culture in the mainstream.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's why some dudes, well, people make the argument that this is bullshit, but that's why some dudes never cross over because they don't want to do the mainstream thing.
34:38
SPEAKER_02: They just love the R form.
34:39
SPEAKER_02: And if I can pay my bills, feed my family, I don't need to be a billionaire.
34:43
SPEAKER_02: I'm cool being a five millionaire.
34:45
SPEAKER_02: Because coming from where I'm from, five million is a billion.
34:50
SPEAKER_02: So why do I need to be a billionaire if Drake got that in him?
34:54
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
34:55
SPEAKER_02: And that's why they look at Drake like We gotta get to it.
34:58
SPEAKER_02: J.
34:59
SPEAKER_02: Cole's not like that.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: J.
35:00
SPEAKER_02: Cole's riding the pedal bike.
35:01
SPEAKER_02: Drake is driving Mercedes concept vehicles.
35:04
SPEAKER_02: They're two different types of niggas.
35:05
SPEAKER_02: Not saying that a black dude, 100% black dude, can't do the Drake thing.
35:09
SPEAKER_02: We've seen Jay-Z do it.
35:10
SPEAKER_02: So it's not a race thing in that sense, but it's like one of Drake's music videos is about mitzvah.
35:16
SPEAKER_02: You can't not think that this nigga is on some white boy shit, even though it was dope.
35:21
SPEAKER_02: It just sucks that I can't be both.
35:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm literally white and black.
35:25
SPEAKER_02: But we live in America.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: He don't.
35:28
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's in the American market.
35:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
35:31
SPEAKER_02: And Canada is part of the Americas.
35:33
SPEAKER_02: But I get what you're saying.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: I get it.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm reaching.
35:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm reaching.
35:35
SPEAKER_02: But it's the American market.
35:37
SPEAKER_02: America, it's the it's the same reason why Tyler had problems.
35:40
SPEAKER_02: And then, like, you where and then let's say all that.
35:42
SPEAKER_02: You don't, where the fuck you think he gets the soul from?
35:45
SPEAKER_02: The music.
35:46
SPEAKER_03: Memphis.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: The black side.
35:47
SPEAKER_02: He like, you know what I'm saying?
35:49
SPEAKER_02: Like, but we're gonna we're gonna do we you think he's this good at music because he's white?
35:55
SPEAKER_02: Listen, I was not a Drake fan.
35:57
SPEAKER_02: You could damn downright say I was a Drake hater for a long time.
36:01
SPEAKER_02: So I didn't appreciate his client.
36:02
SPEAKER_02: See, that's why everything happens for a reason.
36:04
SPEAKER_02: Because we couldn't be friends back then.
36:05
SPEAKER_02: Hey, yeah.
36:08
SPEAKER_02: But we here.
36:09
SPEAKER_02: And and and Pause, if it wasn't for the beef, I would not have been going back through Drake's catalog and timeline and really appreciating his his contribution to hip hop because that Family Matter shit, that gotta be in the museum somewhere.
36:24
SPEAKER_02: We wrapped it together at the first video.
36:26
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
36:28
SPEAKER_02: That shit is hard.
36:30
SPEAKER_02: And and what and coming from a diehard, I'm telling you, this this that's not top 10 of his lyrical.
36:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I believe that.
36:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm going through it right now.
36:39
SPEAKER_02: Because I no, but don't get it twisted.
36:41
SPEAKER_02: I was partying during Drake's prime, uh, during Drake's prime.
36:44
SPEAKER_02: So I know all the party shit.
36:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you yeah, but that's the party shit.
36:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I believe.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: Even the party shit is lyrical too.
36:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh, the party the party shit is lyrical too.
36:50
SPEAKER_02: He got that Jay-Z in there that he can make a lyrical party rap.
36:53
SPEAKER_02: A lot of people don't give uh Jay-Z credit for that as well.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Jigger Man.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: Always gotta do that.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: But um Is Jake Obam's gonna be uh how much you think he's selling first week?
37:02
SPEAKER_02: You see, I don't know what's going on with first week sales.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: What's the average now?
37:06
SPEAKER_02: What's whatever the average is, double it.
37:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't think it breaks any records.
37:09
SPEAKER_02: I think the record breaking shit for hip hop is kind of over right now.
37:12
SPEAKER_02: Let's see, let's see what Kendrick did first week.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: That's not the average off of Drake's back.
37:16
SPEAKER_02: That's not the average though.
37:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm saying average for the that caliber.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
37:20
SPEAKER_02: Because that specific, no, no, that's not that.
37:23
SPEAKER_02: You gotta tell me what all the the album before that did.
37:27
SPEAKER_02: Any album of Drake's or Kendrick that comes out post beef can't be the average for them.
37:34
SPEAKER_02: That's that's what Drake yes, Kendrick no.
37:36
SPEAKER_02: You see, not a stand, I'm a fan.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: The the some sexy songs for you.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: RB song.
37:47
SPEAKER_02: I mean R is a collab album, okay.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay, collab album, okay, RB.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
37:51
SPEAKER_02: But this was his first post beef.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Post beef.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Let's see what that did first week.
37:57
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what I'm saying.
37:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like on his uh on his like, I guess, L year.
38:05
SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
38:07
SPEAKER_01: Um The numbers are skewed, man.
38:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if we can use it as a barometer.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: Tell me.
38:13
SPEAKER_02: 250 first week.
38:15
SPEAKER_02: I say on his worst year of his life.
38:18
SPEAKER_02: I say And it's an RB album.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: J.
38:20
SPEAKER_02: Cole does 300K.
38:22
SPEAKER_02: Easily.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
38:24
SPEAKER_02: Easily.
38:25
SPEAKER_02: But that's all that's why I want to look up GNX.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, look up GNX.
38:27
SPEAKER_02: I think GNX did like four something.
38:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you see, that's a lot, there's a lot of juice.
38:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 250 of that is Drake.
38:34
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying it.
38:35
SPEAKER_02: That's Charlie speaking.
38:37
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
38:38
SPEAKER_02: See?
38:38
SPEAKER_02: This is what I mean.
38:39
SPEAKER_02: What'd it do?
38:40
SPEAKER_02: With the whole hype going behind it, he did 319.
38:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
38:45
SPEAKER_02: But his album before that did like 500.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: No, it didn't.
38:48
SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah.
38:51
SPEAKER_02: That shit did not do no five.
38:52
SPEAKER_02: Let me see.
38:53
SPEAKER_02: I'm about to tell you.
38:54
SPEAKER_02: The big steppers.
38:55
SPEAKER_02: I thought I was the only nigga in the world that liked that album.
38:59
SPEAKER_02: You're right.
39:00
SPEAKER_02: It didn't.
39:01
SPEAKER_02: 2295.
39:03
SPEAKER_02: Yes, I if he did 295, then J.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: Cole's doing 350.
39:07
SPEAKER_02: 350.
39:08
SPEAKER_02: That's my final number.
39:10
SPEAKER_04: Alright, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:11
SPEAKER_01: Is there a feature are you looking forward to on the album?
39:14
SPEAKER_01: Or do we get any features?
39:17
SPEAKER_01: For Drake's for all the dogs did 402.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: That was his last thing, but um, features.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: I think damn, it's just so tough to predict, but like this is what we this is why we professional.
39:33
SPEAKER_01: I feel like there's a Drake feature.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: You gonna stand on it?
39:41
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know if this is just what I want.
39:43
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
39:44
SPEAKER_02: Because I also know J.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: Cole, his albums are not usually feature heavy.
39:48
SPEAKER_02: No.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: And um you know, I'm gonna take that back.
39:52
SPEAKER_02: Because I don't I don't think that on his retirement album he wants people to any just give him just make it seem like anything he's doing is um uh anything, any success that this album gets is because of a Drake feature.
40:06
SPEAKER_02: So you think zero features or no Drake feature?
40:11
SPEAKER_02: Not counting um any RB songstress hooks.
40:15
SPEAKER_02: I'm not gonna count those.
40:16
SPEAKER_02: He should get a Kalani hook though, I'll tell you that.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: I would love to hear that.
40:20
SPEAKER_02: Drake features.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean J.
40:21
SPEAKER_02: Cole features.
40:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, I got one for you.
40:25
SPEAKER_02: Tony One Savage.
40:28
SPEAKER_02: I think he's on the album.
40:30
SPEAKER_02: They do have a strong feature history.
40:32
SPEAKER_02: I think Nas.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: I think Jay.
40:35
SPEAKER_01: I think Boss.
40:37
SPEAKER_01: Jay on the album?
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:39
SPEAKER_01: I don't see Boz on the album.
40:42
SPEAKER_02: Even though it's his man's.
40:44
SPEAKER_02: I don't see Boss on the album.
40:45
SPEAKER_02: I could see Jay on the album.
40:46
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know what the relationship is like because they did have a strain relationship after the deal.
40:50
SPEAKER_02: That's your boss.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: It was his boss.
40:52
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, but the fallout from that deal was not positive, so I don't know what they where they stand.
41:00
SPEAKER_02: Um Okay.
41:02
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
41:03
SPEAKER_02: Or there's just no features.
41:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know.
41:06
SPEAKER_02: I it might just not it might it could just be no features because it's like, it's my it's my shit.
41:10
SPEAKER_02: And he never needed them.
41:11
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
41:12
SPEAKER_03: Never.
41:13
SPEAKER_02: And um, and and that's another thing.
41:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, who do you even want to hear him with?
41:16
SPEAKER_02: I told you my name as well.
41:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I guess Jay.
41:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, after those names that you name, like, who else do you really want to hear him with besides Drake or Kendrick?
41:25
SPEAKER_02: You know, there's not gonna be a Kendrick creature.
41:27
SPEAKER_02: What would be gangster though if there's a song of all three of them on there?
41:30
SPEAKER_02: That'd be gangster.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't think J.
41:31
SPEAKER_02: Cole has the power to do that.
41:33
SPEAKER_02: I don't think there's anybody with the power to do that.
41:35
SPEAKER_02: Maybe, maybe Jay.
41:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think this Kendrick and Drake beef might be one of those like 50 and jobs.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: 50 and draw things.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: It's over.
41:43
SPEAKER_02: It's over.
41:46
SPEAKER_02: Shout out J.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: Cole.
41:48
SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like we could be friends, right?
41:50
SPEAKER_02: Like we're boys.
41:53
SPEAKER_02: If we get into a fight that leaves you paralyzed, would you forgive me?
42:00
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
42:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's not, you're not really mad.
42:03
SPEAKER_02: I you're not really mad that we fought.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: It's like I'ma jump off the ledge here.
42:07
SPEAKER_02: You hit me too hard.
42:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't think I would unfriend somebody for that.
42:12
SPEAKER_02: And I might sound fucking stupid.
42:14
SPEAKER_02: Because it wasn't their intention.
42:15
SPEAKER_02: Because it was not their intention.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: Oh we both we both decided to fisticuff.
42:19
SPEAKER_02: We both knew what happens when you fisticuff.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: You hit me and I hit my head on the concrete and I'm paralyzed.
42:24
SPEAKER_02: My family probably would hate you forever.
42:26
SPEAKER_02: You're right, you're right.
42:27
SPEAKER_02: My son would probably hate you forever.
42:28
SPEAKER_02: My girl probably hates you forever, but I don't think I would hate that.
42:31
SPEAKER_02: I would probably feel sorry for them.
42:32
SPEAKER_02: Alright, so this is worse than because Kendrick's uh intention was to paralyze him.
42:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, if your intention was to do that, because I'm I'm a firm believer.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: He made a song called Meet the Grams.
42:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, he was not trying to play.
42:44
SPEAKER_02: He spoke to my mom, he spoke to my dad, he spoke to my future, my sister.
42:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that wasn't rat beef.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: That was personal.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: That was personal.
42:50
SPEAKER_02: And then you made a pedophile?
42:52
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, that was that wasn't rat beef.
42:55
SPEAKER_02: That was that was personal.
42:56
SPEAKER_02: They can't be friends again.
42:58
SPEAKER_02: Because 50's whole thing against Irv and John, all of them was like, Y'all niggas try to kill me.
43:02
SPEAKER_02: Do you think that Drake did something to deserve that?
43:05
SPEAKER_02: Do I think?
43:06
SPEAKER_02: Or is or is Kendrick really a piece of shit?
43:09
SPEAKER_02: You're trying to lead the witness right now.
43:11
SPEAKER_02: You leave you leading the without.
43:14
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: Like, because I'm saying, like, whatever happened, I don't I don't really remember them having such a thick, deep history and friendship.
43:22
SPEAKER_02: But whatever happened, like.
43:23
SPEAKER_02: Can I wake it up?
43:26
SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
43:30
SPEAKER_01: It ain't no bitch.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: No.
43:31
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: I think Kendrick loves hip hop.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
43:42
SPEAKER_01: And he hates what hip hop is today.
43:46
SPEAKER_01: And he blames Drake for it.
43:52
SPEAKER_01: I love hip hop.
43:53
SPEAKER_02: Hip hop is not just music for me.
43:56
SPEAKER_02: But what would most people think would did you do you think that hip hop wasn't a great Place when Drake came up.
44:02
SPEAKER_02: It's not even an argument.
44:03
SPEAKER_02: Bro, I don't know if you noticed.
44:04
SPEAKER_02: All Drake's albums, week by week, I keep seeing that his albums are entering the billboards.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: Like every other every album is like entering slowly because no one, there's nothing else to really.
44:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, there's not an argument.
44:16
SPEAKER_02: That's why I compare it to an ecosystem.
44:19
SPEAKER_02: I was not a Drake fan during the peak of his stardom.
44:24
SPEAKER_02: But that was also the peak of hip-hop commercially.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
44:27
SPEAKER_02: Might not be substance-wise.
44:28
SPEAKER_02: And that's what I'm trying to tell you about the culture part.
44:30
SPEAKER_02: Substance-wise, Kendrick is looking at it like this shit is not what I I love.
44:34
SPEAKER_02: And y'all niggas is destroying it, and you are the reason.
44:37
SPEAKER_02: So this venom is for you.
44:40
SPEAKER_02: And I'm going to destroy you.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: You're going to get the wrath.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm going to destroy you.
44:42
SPEAKER_02: And hopefully, watch everybody watching your body get destroyed is going to reset hip-hop back to this is a culture, not a cash grab.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think Drake treated hip-hop like a cash grab, though.
44:56
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
44:57
SPEAKER_02: I don't, but he might feel that way.
44:58
SPEAKER_02: Because there's a lot of people in hip-hop that are treating it like a cash grab, and he thinks that that's his influence.
45:03
SPEAKER_02: But if you hear the stories, bro, the the the the homage and the the things Drake has done, like for legends and hip-hop, and from the DMXes to the Bumbies to the Project.
45:13
SPEAKER_02: Bro, that uh Jimmy Cooks, Project Pat, you know, he said, yo, you know how much money that's probably the most money he made in the hip-hop.
45:21
SPEAKER_02: They can gotta do that.
45:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
45:23
SPEAKER_02: That song would have been, but it's and Project Pat is a legend in hip-hop, but commercially, that's probably his most successful thing.
45:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:34
SPEAKER_02: On something that old shit, he didn't even he didn't re-record.
45:37
SPEAKER_02: No, no, something that he is out You know what I'm saying?
45:39
SPEAKER_02: But that's just the the You With Me song on Views, the DMX sample.
45:45
SPEAKER_02: There's a story behind that, how he got that.
45:47
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's so many things.
45:48
SPEAKER_02: Aliyah, how like it's just so many things, but I hear I hear you, but that that is my take on the thing.
45:55
SPEAKER_02: And I think that's spot on.
45:56
SPEAKER_02: I think it's that.
45:57
SPEAKER_02: He's just like, nah, this is something I love, bro.
45:59
SPEAKER_02: And y'all niggas is fucking it.
46:01
SPEAKER_02: Y'all niggas is taking a girl that I love and y'all running a train on her.
46:04
SPEAKER_02: And the nigga that's that nigga, the the nigga that that owns the building, that they the train is being ran on, is Drake.
46:10
SPEAKER_02: And I gotta kill that nigga so the train can stop.
46:12
SPEAKER_02: That's I think that's what he looks at like.
46:15
SPEAKER_02: This nigga, you just made him stronger.
46:17
SPEAKER_02: He's gonna come back with such a vengeance.
46:20
SPEAKER_02: This iceman.
46:21
SPEAKER_02: Let me ask you real real fast.
46:23
SPEAKER_02: We don't got to do too much time.
46:24
SPEAKER_02: What happens if Iceman sucks?
46:25
SPEAKER_02: What do you do?
46:27
SPEAKER_02: What do I do?
46:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: Cry.
46:29
SPEAKER_02: One.
46:31
SPEAKER_02: Definitely cry.
46:33
SPEAKER_02: Um it's it's a it's a it's gonna be a long.
46:40
SPEAKER_02: This is this is uh you know what's funny though?
46:42
SPEAKER_02: Every almost every Drake album has been a like has had this moment where it's like a defining album.
46:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, where did it start?
46:51
SPEAKER_02: It started with nothing was the same.
46:53
SPEAKER_02: Nothing was ever the same.
46:55
SPEAKER_02: Take care was so the first album was great.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: But it's your first album, and it was great, cool.
46:59
SPEAKER_02: But Take Care was so great.
47:01
SPEAKER_02: It's still it's still Take Care came out in 2011 and it just sold 20,000 last week.
47:07
SPEAKER_02: Whoa, think about that.
47:08
SPEAKER_02: And that's that album, there's other albums.
47:09
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying, like, it's so great, right?
47:11
SPEAKER_02: That it was like, bro, you can't.
47:13
SPEAKER_02: This next album, make or break.
47:16
SPEAKER_02: Nothing was the same.
47:17
SPEAKER_02: Also spectacular.
47:20
SPEAKER_02: After nothing was the same, he took a break.
47:22
SPEAKER_02: He dropped a surprise album mixtape.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: If you're reading this, it's too late.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
47:26
SPEAKER_02: Hit after hit adjunk, all that.
47:28
SPEAKER_02: That's that song, that album was crazy.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: Mixtape.
47:31
SPEAKER_02: Now you're in the meek mill beef, right?
47:33
SPEAKER_02: It uh two a few months after the album drop, you're in the meek mill beef.
47:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay, you get you won that beef back to back.
47:39
SPEAKER_02: Then he drops the joint album with Future.
47:42
SPEAKER_02: Alright, that was cool, but that was still a joint album.
47:44
SPEAKER_02: Let's see what your next album would look like.
47:45
SPEAKER_02: You're talking all this shit, big money shit.
47:47
SPEAKER_02: Alright, let me see your next album.
47:48
SPEAKER_02: Views.
47:49
SPEAKER_02: Sells a million first week.
47:51
SPEAKER_02: All types of hits.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: Controller, this and that, the finding album.
47:54
SPEAKER_02: After that, um more life was I don't, there wasn't too much hype around it.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: Whatever.
48:00
SPEAKER_02: It was cool, but it got like lukewarm uh uh reviews, even though now Passion Fruit is like the biggest one.
48:06
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, 2018, Pusha Beef.
48:10
SPEAKER_02: After the Pusha Beef, Scorpion got a drop.
48:13
SPEAKER_02: Scorpion.
48:15
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
48:15
SPEAKER_02: Every album has always like had like a meaning, like a defining album in his career.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
48:20
SPEAKER_02: And it's like this is this is probably the most defining one.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: And it's um So it has to hit a lot of pressure.
48:27
SPEAKER_02: Bro, come on.
48:28
SPEAKER_02: All right, this nigga has never let's let's let's uh transition.
48:32
SPEAKER_02: If it's wag, I'll do a I'll do a gunner shit and delete.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: No, I can't do that.
48:37
SPEAKER_02: Um we got right, bro.
48:40
SPEAKER_02: New York's prodigal son has returned.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: The man that has knocked up Rihanna more times than we can count.
48:46
SPEAKER_02: The ASAP the Rockiest.
48:48
SPEAKER_02: Another one looking for Drake Clout.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: Um, okay.
48:50
SPEAKER_02: Well, go ahead.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: Where the barry leave there, buddy.
48:54
SPEAKER_02: But uh ASAP Rocky's uh his album has come out.
48:59
SPEAKER_02: Um I listened to it a few times.
49:06
SPEAKER_02: Um it's called Don't Be Dumb, which we all anticipated.
49:10
SPEAKER_02: Right.
49:12
SPEAKER_02: And this is what I would say about ASAP Rocky.
49:20
SPEAKER_02: ASAP had his own sound.
49:22
SPEAKER_02: Where he got it from is debated.
49:25
SPEAKER_02: But when he came out, I was in about I was in high school, and his sound was very unique, very distinct.
49:39
SPEAKER_01: And I appreciated it.
49:42
SPEAKER_01: Don't be dumb has some of the worst beats I've heard in a very long time.
49:49
SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I don't know what was going on.
49:52
SPEAKER_01: The best verse on the album to me is my man Sauce.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: And this the beat on that song ruined the song for me.
50:00
SPEAKER_02: And I just don't understand what uh ASAP Rocky was doing.
50:05
SPEAKER_02: He's fucking.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't get it.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's fucking.
50:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I don't it's like he put out this album because he kind of had to.
50:11
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, man.
50:12
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then like you said, and that's a that's a crazy thing, and like Drake said on Family Matters, no one's looking for your music.
50:21
SPEAKER_02: I was though.
50:22
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you were?
50:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was because his last album I feel like was whack too.
50:25
SPEAKER_02: No, it was it was not not good.
50:27
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying.
50:28
SPEAKER_02: Like, it's been and then he's dropping every five years.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: I was like, all right, your last album was whack.
50:32
SPEAKER_02: It was five years before that.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: That one was whack.
50:34
SPEAKER_02: Now we're winning five more years.
50:35
SPEAKER_02: You haven't been dropping no features, freestyles.
50:37
SPEAKER_02: You don't look, you're not dropping pictures in the studio.
50:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, nothing about a rapper.
50:41
SPEAKER_02: Nothing about your lifestyle is given you're taking this serious anymore, which is fine.
50:44
SPEAKER_02: You're in your fashion shit, whatever the case is, but like just don't drop anymore then.
50:51
SPEAKER_02: You know?
50:53
SPEAKER_02: I didn't like this.
50:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was and then the and then I to be honest, I couldn't get track, I couldn't get past track six.
51:00
SPEAKER_02: It was just bad to me.
51:02
SPEAKER_02: I I did like the iTunes things where you re-preview the rest of the album.
51:07
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
51:08
SPEAKER_02: Um did the title have anything to do?
51:11
SPEAKER_02: Is there a concept behind the title?
51:12
SPEAKER_02: I I couldn't find it.
51:13
SPEAKER_02: Don't be dumb.
51:14
SPEAKER_02: There was.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: It just sounds cool.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: It's a I was about to say it's a cool title, but like the way Savage said what happened to the streets, what I'm saying, like there was a concept in like what was there a if there was one, I couldn't find it, bro.
51:28
SPEAKER_02: The beats are just awful.
51:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, really bad.
51:34
SPEAKER_02: And I like Aeside Rocky's flow, but the I just couldn't get past the beats, bro.
51:40
SPEAKER_02: And this is this is it was bad.
51:41
SPEAKER_02: It was a bad attempt.
51:42
SPEAKER_02: And it's it's two discs, technically.
51:43
SPEAKER_02: I think you should have just learned from Rihanna, what Rihanna's doing.
51:46
SPEAKER_02: Just live off your uh classics.
51:49
SPEAKER_02: Okay, like just let that be the unless Rihanna's not dropping.
51:53
SPEAKER_02: She's she's like uh one of those J.
51:56
SPEAKER_02: Cole Drake, like this shit gotta be heat if I'm dropping.
51:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, especially it's been like what 10 years.
52:00
SPEAKER_02: She did one song for the um the tr the what's that?
52:04
SPEAKER_02: Some soundtrack.
52:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the what's the the the Lion King?
52:06
SPEAKER_02: No, no, not Lion King.
52:07
SPEAKER_02: The blue people, Smurfs, Smurfs, okay.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: And that shit was bad.
52:11
SPEAKER_02: The song's bad.
52:13
SPEAKER_02: Because I bet you with her Star Pi, that song would have took off.
52:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, even if that's you, you don't even know what it sounds like.
52:18
SPEAKER_02: Because one of Kendrick's songs was on a soundtrack and it took off.
52:22
SPEAKER_02: It was a it was on a Black Panther thing soundtrack.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: Anyway, oh no, no, he had a Black Panther album.
52:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
52:28
SPEAKER_02: And that shit.
52:29
SPEAKER_02: That might be my favorite Kendrick album.
52:32
SPEAKER_02: That shit is nuts, bro.
52:34
SPEAKER_02: Damn and nuts.
52:35
SPEAKER_02: And and um I said might be.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
52:37
SPEAKER_02: I gave myself an out.
52:38
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
52:38
SPEAKER_02: You did.
52:39
SPEAKER_02: You did.
52:41
SPEAKER_02: But it's my okay, it's my favorite.
52:43
SPEAKER_02: Might be my favorite.
52:44
SPEAKER_02: Is that what I said?
52:45
SPEAKER_02: What did I say it's the best?
52:46
SPEAKER_02: It's my favorite.
52:47
SPEAKER_02: It's your favorite.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: Niggas can't be mad at that.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: That's the rule.
52:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
52:50
SPEAKER_02: See, but that's that's interesting because most most people would interpret that as you saying it's the best.
52:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but I just saying it's my favorite.
52:55
SPEAKER_02: It's all say you articulate, man.
52:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what to do.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying.
52:58
SPEAKER_02: Professional.
52:59
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, um, yeah.
53:01
SPEAKER_02: Anybody who downloaded this ASAP Rocky album, delete it.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's not it.
53:06
SPEAKER_02: Uh, shout out to Sauce Walker though.
53:08
SPEAKER_02: That the song, I think it's called Snitching.
53:10
SPEAKER_02: Let me let me stop snitching.
53:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stop snitching.
53:12
SPEAKER_02: The concept of the song's dope.
53:14
SPEAKER_02: Both of them got their shit off.
53:15
SPEAKER_02: He shitted on Say Cheese.
53:16
SPEAKER_02: They shit it on Vlad, but not they didn't say the only they didn't say Vlad's name.
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, the verse was nice.
53:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's a lot of like any window in there, but the beat.
53:25
SPEAKER_02: The beat was bad, bro.
53:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh do you wanna do you have an opinion on did you see the little clip in the interview where they asked him what happened between him and Drake and why I don't know, we can talk about that.
53:36
SPEAKER_02: Did you see that clip?
53:37
SPEAKER_02: I nah.
53:38
SPEAKER_02: There's a clip he and is see because there was man's.
53:42
SPEAKER_02: There was man's for sure.
53:44
SPEAKER_02: Um fucking problems is still his biggest song.
53:46
SPEAKER_02: It is?
53:47
SPEAKER_02: ASAP?
53:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't do that.
53:49
SPEAKER_02: You know that for sure.
53:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you for sure.
53:51
SPEAKER_02: Damn that fucking problems is ASAP's biggest record.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: I love bad bitches the motherfucker.
53:56
SPEAKER_02: So did he say what his beef with Drake was?
53:59
SPEAKER_02: He he didn't.
53:59
SPEAKER_02: He said, but he didn't.
54:00
SPEAKER_02: He said, he told the interviewer, he said, I don't know.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he he's blaming Drake.
54:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm bibging.
54:08
SPEAKER_02: You ASAP.
54:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't know where it came from, you know.
54:12
SPEAKER_02: Um I'm just laying in the bed and I just see shots coming from him.
54:18
SPEAKER_02: And what shots?
54:20
SPEAKER_02: And I don't know what happened between us.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: So you might just have to ask him because I don't know.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: That's interesting.
54:29
SPEAKER_02: That's all he said.
54:30
SPEAKER_02: That's literally all he said on the on the interview.
54:32
SPEAKER_02: But then you're gonna keep dissing it, though.
54:34
SPEAKER_02: He made a song, and then the song is you took my flow, so I took your bitch.
54:38
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
54:38
SPEAKER_02: Which I don't even know how Rihanna feels about that.
54:41
SPEAKER_02: But because that's she's riding with him, man.
54:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's yeah, she has to, but I don't Oh, you are her personal film.
54:48
SPEAKER_02: I mean, if you were Rihanna, how would you feel about that?
54:52
SPEAKER_02: It's not it sounds like I was uh pawning y'all beef.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: And I'm richer than both of y'all.
54:57
SPEAKER_02: As Rihanna.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: But so, okay.
55:00
SPEAKER_02: We all three of us are rich.
55:01
SPEAKER_02: But what I'm saying is, it sounds like I would you I was uh getting me was a a win to him.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not like you know getting me is the win.
55:12
SPEAKER_02: Now I don't think that's true.
55:14
SPEAKER_02: I do think they always had a little fling, and I I really do think that that's what it is.
55:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, you think the Rihanna's the beef?
55:19
SPEAKER_02: I think I think Drake found out that he was shooting at Rihanna behind the scenes while Drake was dating back in the day.
55:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
55:26
SPEAKER_02: So um, I think that's what it was, but he acting oblivious.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: But he, you know.
55:30
SPEAKER_02: I did see now now what I see, what I don't like about the shit is when Drake goes and sits down with all these white social media outlets.
55:42
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha, no one says anything.
55:44
SPEAKER_02: I didn't see ASAP in on a Breakfast Club, I didn't see him on Drink Champs, I ain't see him on a Joe Bunner podcast, I ain't see him on Million Dollars Worth of Game.
55:52
SPEAKER_02: He did a podcast with the New York Post.
55:56
SPEAKER_02: I I I'm I'm picking up what you're putting down.
55:58
SPEAKER_02: So come on, and and nobody's come on, like it's different rules, man.
56:03
SPEAKER_02: When they like you, they like you, and that's the Rihanna effect, to be honest.
56:06
SPEAKER_01: Oh.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: You don't think damn, it sounds like I'm hating on I love ASAP.
56:10
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like if he wasn't with Rihanna, we don't think he gets this uh Okay.
56:16
SPEAKER_02: A gizzle, come on, man.
56:18
SPEAKER_02: Okay, all right, I hear you.
56:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, don't be dumb.
56:22
SPEAKER_02: Um go listen to it at your leisure.
56:24
SPEAKER_02: Where was he before Rihanna?
56:27
SPEAKER_02: He was the jiggy nigga from Hall.
56:30
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
56:31
SPEAKER_02: Sounds like Ace Hat Fur gonna be.
56:34
SPEAKER_02: I I hear you, man.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: I hear you.
56:36
SPEAKER_02: Um, I think that's pretty much it for music.
56:39
SPEAKER_02: Um so I kind of want to shift gears to it's probably gonna be my favorite top.
56:45
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, we have one more music topic.
56:47
SPEAKER_02: What's up?
56:47
SPEAKER_02: Breezy, we got breezy.
56:49
SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
56:50
SPEAKER_02: Um so I mean it was a quick topic.
56:52
SPEAKER_02: I just want to point out everything is about who you know, yes, sir.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: And I get that.
56:59
SPEAKER_02: I get it.
57:00
SPEAKER_02: We're all gonna use our connections and you know, our our network.
57:06
SPEAKER_02: But it's it's uh it's it's a little disheartening, and it feels a little I don't know if racist is the word, but it's like all the artists that are suing record labels, yep, with whatever with all the proof that they may or may not have they're losing.
57:27
SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't know the intricate details about the Chris Brown lawsuit.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: I just know that he sued Warner Boss for 500 million.
57:32
SPEAKER_02: Cool, I'm not saying he should have got 500 million.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:34
SPEAKER_02: People put the number No, you aim high, so settle low.
57:37
SPEAKER_02: But like, it's it's not that he lost the case, it got dismissed.
57:41
SPEAKER_02: Same with Drake.
57:42
SPEAKER_02: Dismissed.
57:43
SPEAKER_02: That's bad.
57:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's just like, and I'm sure these guys have the lawyers of the lawyer.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:48
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, not even there's there's something going on where the record labels isn't cahoots with.
57:53
SPEAKER_02: I want to say the government to say, like, yo, like, we're this powerful, this is who we are.
57:58
SPEAKER_02: We're Warner Brothers, we're universal.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: Whatever courtroom we walk into, you know.
58:06
SPEAKER_02: So I just think it's um it's that, it's sad.
58:10
SPEAKER_02: And it's telling of how much control these companies, these record labels have over us, and it's just to tell the people up and coming, like us, to not sign our rights away and just be fucked.
58:24
SPEAKER_01: I think um you're 100% correct.
58:28
SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't want to get too conspiratorial.
58:33
SPEAKER_01: But it's not just the music industry.
58:37
SPEAKER_01: America is supposed to be a democratic republic.
58:42
SPEAKER_01: We are now in a tech oligarchy.
58:47
SPEAKER_02: Which means the tech, the heads of tech are actually our leaders.
58:54
SPEAKER_02: Elon, Jack Mobb, Bill DeBase, those niggas run the country.
59:01
SPEAKER_02: They are presidents.
59:02
SPEAKER_02: They are president.
59:06
SPEAKER_01: There's only four music companies.
59:11
SPEAKER_01: That's a monopoly is illegal.
59:15
SPEAKER_02: But what's the difference between one company owning everything and four companies over there owning everything?
59:21
SPEAKER_02: I don't see the difference.
59:22
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing.
59:23
SPEAKER_02: Because four niggas can agree on something.
59:25
SPEAKER_02: Four niggas come here pop.
59:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, three.
59:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, two today.
59:28
SPEAKER_02: Because you know, can't agree on everything.
59:32
SPEAKER_02: But I just think that the the wool is being pulled over our eyes, and even it, like you said, the rich of the rich, if the rich of the rich don't stand a chance in the courtroom, yeah.
59:46
SPEAKER_01: What does the little guy got?
59:48
SPEAKER_01: So shout out Breezy, shout out Drake, shout out Warner Brothers.
59:54
SPEAKER_02: No, I mean, they got the right history, man.
59:58
SPEAKER_02: But uh that's definitely scary, though.
1:00:00
SPEAKER_02: If you really pay attention, that shit is terrifying.
1:00:02
SPEAKER_02: That even the niggas with the money, the power, the influence can't get by, can't get it off.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_02: Dismissed.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_02: Dismissed as we ain't even getting the trial.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_02: It's disrespectful.
1:00:10
SPEAKER_02: They're like, don't even bring yo, like get the shit out of my court, right?
1:00:13
SPEAKER_02: That's and that's Chris Brown, nigga with money, paper.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_02: So, the little guy, right?
1:00:18
SPEAKER_02: But um, Charlie, what you doing if uh Spotify comes next week and offers gas money uh 15 million for the whole thing?
1:00:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, go ahead, nigga.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_02: No, but that's the thing.
1:00:31
SPEAKER_02: That's the thing.
1:00:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's the thing?
1:00:33
SPEAKER_02: Spotify, you can have it, but we could just start another podcast.
1:00:37
SPEAKER_02: Nah, you are you are a worker now.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: You gotta be here every Sunday.
1:00:40
SPEAKER_02: Oh, there is this this is a salary?
1:00:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we have a boss, yeah.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_02: 50 million a year, 15 million for the the next 10 years of contract.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_02: 15 million for 10 years.
1:00:48
SPEAKER_02: Hey G.
1:00:49
SPEAKER_02: Yes, sir.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_02: Did we not have a conversation what I'll do for a million?
1:00:52
SPEAKER_02: Listen.
1:00:53
SPEAKER_02: You just said fuck one, brother.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no, no, no, I didn't know.
1:00:56
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:00:57
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_02: I don't mean it like that.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean it like, you know, let me let me let me make it like fuck AG too.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_02: Okay, fine.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_02: I got that serious.
1:01:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I got you.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: 15 mil for the next 15 years, no.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_02: Not 10, 10.
1:01:08
SPEAKER_02: I mean, bro, today we have to, yeah, we gotta take it.
1:01:11
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_02: But that doesn't, I don't think they should own it in perpetuity, which is forever.
1:01:15
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: I think that you own it for let's say the side is for 10 years, you go own it for 20.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:01:21
SPEAKER_02: Because you're putting me in a position that again, big bank take little bank.
1:01:26
SPEAKER_02: I don't, I don't think that that's not a reality, but it's like forever is is a little crazy.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: You know?
1:01:33
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: Um last thing on this top, but you ask cash.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: No, that's not enough.
1:01:37
SPEAKER_02: Oh, no, no.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_02: He need he needs benefits.
1:01:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, y'all need 30 million, y'all get no ownership, and we pop when we want.
1:01:43
SPEAKER_02: No, I don't I don't think he he gives a fuck about the ownership part.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: I think the money is his bag.
1:01:47
SPEAKER_02: I think I would care more about the ownership.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
1:01:50
SPEAKER_02: But um, R.I.P.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_01: the Combat Jack, he's the actual podfather, to be honest.
1:01:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, he did a podcast, I think he was on Drink Champs, and he basically was Nori's introduction into hip-hop on a business level, and nor uh Combat Jack jerked him, like straight up jerked him.
1:02:12
SPEAKER_02: And that was hip hop.
1:02:15
SPEAKER_02: That was the pleasure of doing business that had that it's supposed to happen.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_02: Diddy.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_02: You have to get jerked.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_02: Your first deal, you get jerked.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_02: After Diddy.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
1:02:24
SPEAKER_02: Yo, you have to get one more time.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll do it to myself.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so when I learned that information, how cavalier and casual you got jerked.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, that's because Norrie said he's a street nigga, like he wanted to hurt Combat Jack, but he realized that oh, this is the game, and that's a part of the problem, too.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: So it don't matter where you're at in this in this world, yeah.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_02: But um, my favorite topic this week, the the thing that set the internet ablaze in my little corner of the internet, is my man Anton Anton Daniels and my other man, Corey Holcomb.
1:03:09
SPEAKER_02: So, for those of you that are not familiar, are you familiar with either of these gentlemen?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: Corey, yes, not the other one.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so Anton is a very polarizing guy.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_02: Because his whole content, how do I put this nicely?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_02: Because I'm not trying to disrespect either men.
1:03:28
SPEAKER_02: Anton's content, you better not disrespect no Anton or Corey.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll see.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Um we'll see how we we we we break this down because I want to see what side of this you want.
1:03:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, Anton, his content is very black men need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, need to stop complaining, and stop putting your race before money.
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: Just because somebody is black doesn't mean that they have my best interests at heart.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_02: On its face, I get it, but that is not the reality for black people in America, and he should know better than not prefacing that with it's all circumstantial.
1:04:13
SPEAKER_02: Because you hear this all the time.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_02: All skin folk are not kin folk.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_02: That's a very traditional, specifically southern black American saying that means that everybody that looks like you does not mean that they are gonna do right by you, and that's just a rule of life, right?
1:04:29
SPEAKER_02: It's like all family ain't real family, yeah.
1:04:31
SPEAKER_02: So his whole thing, Anton is like, yo, black people, we live in the best time, in the best country, in the best era.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of money to get out here if you guys just stop being victims, and that's pretty much like his content.
1:04:46
SPEAKER_02: Very anti.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if I want to say anti-black women, but it's very anti ghetto culture, very anti-baby mama, very anti-oh, taking handouts on the government, very anti-EBT, very, nah, nigga.
1:05:06
SPEAKER_02: You in America, you're not a slave.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_02: The black community, we the black community would call him a seller.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: A coon, yeah.
1:05:13
SPEAKER_02: Some people call him a coon, but nah, but there's a faction of the black community, and even my this is my thing with all these internet celebrities, or even when it came to um what's my man that used to uh the nigga Kevin Samuels, right?
1:05:25
SPEAKER_02: I think that in this era, that's in peace, Kevin Samuels, man.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_02: In this era, people act like you can't take from I take from what I like and I leave the other shit.
1:05:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't like niggas get too caught up in being fans of people.
1:05:37
SPEAKER_02: Like they're human beings like you are, bro.
1:05:38
SPEAKER_02: Like this nigga is not the gospel, he's not Jesus, he's not God, he's not everything he says is you're not gonna agree with, and that that also doesn't mean fuck him either.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's just AG.
1:05:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay, cool.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_02: That's great.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's Anton's whole bag is that financial literacy, stop being a crybaby, bitch ass nigga.
1:05:59
SPEAKER_02: Um You know, stop letting black women run your household.
1:06:02
SPEAKER_02: It should be patriarchy.
1:06:03
SPEAKER_02: Like very red pill.
1:06:05
SPEAKER_02: So a lot of black people that aren't on that timing or haven't awakened yet are like, oh, this nigga's a coon.
1:06:11
SPEAKER_02: Fuck this nigga.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_02: And then there's other black people that are like, nah, he's speaking the gospel.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_02: He's speaking the truth because that is our problem as a community, is that we are sitting around looking for the government to save us.
1:06:21
SPEAKER_02: Like he's he's like anti-reparations, which I don't agree with, but I understand the sentiment, which is stop waiting for the government.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: The government's never gonna save you.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: When in our history has the government saved you?
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: You had to go out there and demand it, and then eventually some through trickle down, they half-ass give you some shit.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_02: And then we take that chicken shit and make it into chicken salad.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_02: That's why black American people are so dope, is that they take the scraps, flip it, and make it the thing that everybody wants.
1:06:47
SPEAKER_02: Chitlins.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_02: He said, Well, I'm not going that far.
1:06:50
SPEAKER_02: But you get you get the drift.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Corey, on the other hand, he's a comedian off-rip.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:58
SPEAKER_02: His type of his brand of comedy.
1:07:00
SPEAKER_02: And he's funny.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I think Corey is a beast.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_02: But his brand of comedy is never gonna be mainstream because he's very he's a real nigga.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_02: Like he, if I had to give him a title, it's he's a real nigga.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_02: That's his whole thing.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_02: He's not sugarcoating it.
1:07:16
SPEAKER_02: He's not a liberal.
1:07:17
SPEAKER_02: Because that's what Anton was trying to think about.
1:07:19
SPEAKER_02: He's like an Aries Spears.
1:07:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just think he's he's Aerie.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like Aries will hit his at a he will hit a ceiling.
1:07:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because of his.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you see, even Aries, wasn't he on Mad TV?
1:07:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_02: I don't think Corey Holcomb would ever even get to that level because his comedy is so anti-establishment, whereas you can make the argument that's what comedy is supposed to be.
1:07:41
SPEAKER_02: And that's it.
1:07:42
SPEAKER_02: Corey has said some things about Dave Chappelle that I kind of agreed with, which is Dave Chappelle makes very white people safe comedy.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_02: And I said this, you know, the other a couple of weeks ago.
1:07:52
SPEAKER_02: But these two people were on a collision course because Corey has called out Anton, Anton has called out Corey.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't know about name before this instant.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_02: They had an issue.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_02: It's a backstory.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_02: It's a backstory.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_02: Corey has his own show called the 5150 Show.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_02: Uh shout him out.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_02: It's like a live podcast.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: It's like a mixture between a live stream and a podcast.
1:08:13
SPEAKER_02: So he has a podcasting of live.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_02: Pretty much.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: He has a panel.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_02: They change a lot.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_02: The only consistent person I see is the is the woman there.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_02: I forgot her name.
1:08:22
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, no disrespect.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, he changes his panel a lot.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_02: So he's been doing this for like eight years, I think.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_02: Almost ten, almost a decade.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_02: And they do decent numbers.
1:08:31
SPEAKER_02: Anton does way better numbers because he's again on social media.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_02: Because he's all because Anton, by the way you describe it, he's also pulling the white.
1:08:42
SPEAKER_02: Yes.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_02: Like the white people that want us to be like, see, there's a black guy that agrees with us.
1:08:46
SPEAKER_02: So he and does he truly believe this or is he just playing a role?
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_02: So the two of them are on a podcast together, which is Corey's hosting on Corey's show, and things get a little violent.
1:09:00
SPEAKER_02: Well, almost got violent.
1:09:01
SPEAKER_02: Well, words are violent sometimes.
1:09:03
SPEAKER_02: So what happened was the clip, well, at least the clip that went viral, because I tried to find the whole live, because I actually watched Corey's stuff a lot, but I didn't I miss this episode.
1:09:13
SPEAKER_02: Because this one was live.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_02: Like there's no like at least during the time of this recording.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_02: Now, aside from his stand-up though, yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't watch his podcast at all.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_02: But every time it goes viral, he is saying a lot of ignorant real nigga shit.
1:09:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's and that's what Anton's thing was was like, you the type of person that you need my information the most because you need to change your mind state.
1:09:36
SPEAKER_02: So the where things got heated was because Corey said basically, you're kissing white people's ass.
1:09:46
SPEAKER_02: He literally said that.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
1:09:49
SPEAKER_02: You don't take white people to task.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_02: The only people I see.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: And let me just yes, sir.
1:09:54
SPEAKER_02: Because this matters.
1:09:56
SPEAKER_02: He said you're kissing Caucasian males as.
1:10:00
SPEAKER_02: He said males.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_02: So he didn't say specified.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: He specified males as.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: So go ahead.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_02: So Corey's issue with Anton is that you don't take white people to task.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_02: You're always shitting on the black people in black community, and you just let these white boys run around and say and do whatever.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_02: You never take them to task.
1:10:15
SPEAKER_02: And Anton's rebuttal was you are sucking, did he say black men or black people's dick?
1:10:25
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, if you if it's black people's, it's still the men.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he's he basically was like, and you sucking the black community's dick.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_02: And again, I wish Cash was here, because I'm an old school type of dude.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_02: And whenever you let that sucking dick fly, you have to be prepared for violence.
1:10:41
SPEAKER_02: Kill or die.
1:10:42
SPEAKER_02: That's how I learned it.
1:10:44
SPEAKER_02: Like the new kids kind of play like my brother, he's like late 20s.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_02: So his generation, they play around like that with their friends.
1:10:53
SPEAKER_02: And every time I hear it, it's like nails scratching on the shark board.
1:10:56
SPEAKER_02: Like, why are y'all throwing franks at each other?
1:10:58
SPEAKER_02: That shit is is not uh icky.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I never played yeah, like but we're from the same generation.
1:11:05
SPEAKER_02: I I wanted to see how Cash felt about it with his uh peers.
1:11:08
SPEAKER_02: But them niggas is old.
1:11:11
SPEAKER_02: Anton and Corey are both older than us, and the minute Anton said that, Corey got up and got in his face.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_02: Now he made the face, too.
1:11:19
SPEAKER_02: He said he was appalled.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_02: So, this is the question I want to ask Charlie and our viewers.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_02: I challenge you already said it to me.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: I challenge you to say it again, or else there's gonna be consequences.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_02: You don't say it again, but you say we can step outside and fight.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_02: Who's pussy?
1:11:40
SPEAKER_02: You because you challenged me to the fight.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_02: No, you.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_02: I already said it.
1:11:45
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_02: You want me to say it again?
1:11:47
SPEAKER_02: Or you're just you're just I already got it off.
1:11:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I already got it off.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_02: I said it already.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_02: You heard me say it, you're reacting because you heard me say it.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_02: What you want me to say it again for?
1:11:54
SPEAKER_02: Like, do what you're gonna do.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_02: Well, I gotta say a nigga gotta say it five times for you to react.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_02: No, say it.
1:11:59
SPEAKER_02: If you're gonna react, react right now.
1:12:01
SPEAKER_02: So that was kind of my thought process.
1:12:04
SPEAKER_02: But when I went into the comments, now again, social media is not real life, a lot of the comments are already coming in hating Anton and liking Corey.
1:12:12
SPEAKER_02: But I even seen people that were fly with Corey, like, nah, Corey, he punked you.
1:12:18
SPEAKER_02: Because he did.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_02: He already threw the Frank.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_01: He well in in the in the entirety of the video, he did punk him.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_02: Now, I do think that if throwing the Frank is is out of bounds, we're black men, yep, we're older, don't tell me I'm kissing a white man's ass.
1:12:42
SPEAKER_02: Now, if if that's your opinion That's a figure of speech, though.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_02: Sucking dick technically could be Yeah, but there is a it is a figure of speech in the way Anton said it because he didn't No no Anton knew what he was doing.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_02: He you think disrespected him with a figure of speech because he didn't mean it literally.
1:13:00
SPEAKER_02: But that but I think that he felt disrespected by the he raised he upped the ante.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_02: He upped the ante, yeah.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_02: But I don't think I don't think what Anton said is the same as you know what?
1:13:10
SPEAKER_02: No, it definitely wasn't.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't it was he Because if he wanted to, he would have just did that.
1:13:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: So I think that's a fight.
1:13:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, we don't know because Corey might have asked him to say it again.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_02: And I think if I'm kissing, and if you're implying that I'm kissing white ass, you're implying that I'm gay.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm just saying, like, we're gonna be if we're gonna take it.
1:13:26
SPEAKER_02: If we gotta take all the implications, yeah, absolutely.
1:13:29
SPEAKER_02: You're also implying that I'm so it's like, oh, so I well, I think you you you sucking dick, nigga.
1:13:35
SPEAKER_02: What the fuck?
1:13:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and um you did all that.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_02: He got shorty.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, she was trying to break it up.
1:13:41
SPEAKER_02: She should have he told her straight up, you see two niggas.
1:13:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I'll fucking.
1:13:46
SPEAKER_02: He told her move out the way once, and then she tried, he's like, yo, get the fuck out the way.
1:13:50
SPEAKER_02: This shit might air out, and you don't want to be.
1:13:52
SPEAKER_02: Now let me let me give Corey some points now.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_02: Let me see if this changes your opinion.
1:13:56
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
1:13:57
SPEAKER_02: He put his hands in Anton's face.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_02: He put his, he was like, yo, he had the finger.
1:14:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he touched him, but it was in his face.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: It broke that bubble.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_02: You know, we all have a bubble.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_02: There's a bubble.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_02: It broke the bubble.
1:14:07
SPEAKER_02: The bubble, your girl breaks everything.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_02: You'd be like, yo, stop, get your hands up.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_02: See, yo, all right, that's another game.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, no.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_02: We can get we can get there.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: We got it, we got nothing but space and opportunity.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
1:14:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, so he broke the bubble.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_02: And the backstory is Anton has security there.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_02: So he didn't want to step outside and get jumped.
1:14:27
SPEAKER_01: So why not just fight right here?
1:14:30
SPEAKER_01: Anton's thing was I'm not fighting on camera.
1:14:35
SPEAKER_01: I don't think that changes my opinion that much.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_02: So let's let's say let me let me put you in the your Corey.
1:14:42
SPEAKER_02: I'm Anton.
1:14:43
SPEAKER_02: No, it'll be flipped.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_02: Corey ain't got no, but Corey got people there too.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_02: No, but he doesn't have security there.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_02: He got the girl and maybe like a couple of camera guys, maybe.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: We don't know.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:14:51
SPEAKER_02: But the the backstory is Anton got people like a secure.
1:14:55
SPEAKER_02: So the nigga is there for action.
1:14:56
SPEAKER_02: Whether I got people here or not, you got a nigga that's here for action.
1:15:00
SPEAKER_02: I'ma step outside, y'all jump me.
1:15:02
SPEAKER_02: That's a bad look.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_02: That's a bad look on Ant.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_02: No, but I still got my ass whooped.
1:15:09
SPEAKER_02: I got jumped.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: I got my ass whooped.
1:15:11
SPEAKER_02: You get past this for getting jumped.
1:15:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you got your ass whooped.
1:15:13
SPEAKER_02: How do I prove I got jumped?
1:15:14
SPEAKER_02: That's just my word.
1:15:16
SPEAKER_02: Ant, I could go to the internet and be like, I'll walk that nigga's ass.
1:15:18
SPEAKER_02: You gotta have Shorty recording.
1:15:20
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
1:15:21
SPEAKER_02: So that's also a flaw on Corey, because it's like I didn't know there was a backstory.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_02: If there's a backstory, should have had niggas there too.
1:15:27
SPEAKER_02: Oh, niggas fight on Corey's show all the time.
1:15:29
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying he Corey should have had security too.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_02: If you know, if you know.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_02: Corey's a real nigga.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: Real niggas aren't security.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm my security.
1:15:40
SPEAKER_02: Now, I don't think from Ant Ant's tone that it was gonna be a jump, but I don't know him that well.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_02: But that would have been whack.
1:15:47
SPEAKER_02: But um, I think I think Ant wanted to shoot the fair, but fuck the fair.
1:15:50
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_02: In the in the verbal interaction, Ant was not backing down.
1:15:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, all this pop in the bubble shit.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I get that.
1:15:58
SPEAKER_02: But it's like, we're still on camera.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_02: If I swing first, I don't know if he's gonna go lawsuit.
1:16:03
SPEAKER_02: I don't know what's gonna happen.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_02: And that's what a lot of people were saying about Corey, why he didn't want to fight Anton as well.
1:16:09
SPEAKER_02: Because Anton is that type of successful.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'ma just sue you.
1:16:13
SPEAKER_02: Anton will sue him.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was like the thought process.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, like Corey knows the type of nigga, the type of nigga that Anton is, he probably would have just sued Corey if he hit him, period.
1:16:22
SPEAKER_02: But there's no proof of that.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:16:25
SPEAKER_02: So these are all the people that are speculating why Corey, the real nigga, did not get Action Jackson once the Frank was thrown.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: Now, real quick, you believe all this was 100% real?
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:37
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:16:38
SPEAKER_02: So if it's real.
1:16:40
SPEAKER_02: Which is which is rare for me.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_02: Because I usually believe everything is bullshit.
1:16:43
SPEAKER_02: If it's real, you think like, would you care that first of all, these cameras are yours.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:48
SPEAKER_02: Whatever gets recorded on these cameras.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_02: No, it's live.
1:16:53
SPEAKER_02: Ah so live, yeah.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: A lot is a lot to lose.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_02: Live, someone has the other you would like the other person to swing first one.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_02: And if you beat me up on live, it's not going back.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: It's not going back.
1:17:07
SPEAKER_02: So with that being said, I think Corey should have let the let the throw in the frank go.
1:17:15
SPEAKER_02: If you weren't prepared to go there, then now yeah, say it.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_02: Call me a bitch again.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_02: How dare you?
1:17:23
SPEAKER_02: It's like, yeah, I did it already.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that was my whole thing.
1:17:27
SPEAKER_02: And you and nine times out of ten, when they say it again, nothing happens.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Nothing happens.
1:17:31
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:17:32
SPEAKER_02: Like that call me a bitch again.
1:17:34
SPEAKER_02: Say sucking my dick again, that is a flair for the parties to maybe to separate y'all.
1:17:40
SPEAKER_02: That's what that is for.
1:17:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:17:42
SPEAKER_02: So I can say, are you lucky the niggas is here without a because if Because usually when they separate, that's what they say again.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
1:17:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:17:49
SPEAKER_02: So to me, I fuck with Corey.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_02: I fuck with Corey too.
1:17:53
SPEAKER_02: But I think he looks he looks bad for two reasons.
1:18:00
SPEAKER_02: Corey behaved exactly like Anton said he would behave.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_02: Ignorant, foolish.
1:18:09
SPEAKER_02: The type of nigga that needs to hear what I'm saying.
1:18:12
SPEAKER_02: You're a grown-ass man still living by barbaric rules in a society that has moved on from barbarism.
1:18:19
SPEAKER_02: And this is what I said pods ago.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_02: We have to stop letting words affect us to this level.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_02: And multiple times in that verbal thing, Ant was trying to like stay on content.
1:18:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was like, nah, let's go.
1:18:31
SPEAKER_02: He's like, bro, you're running, you're running.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, get back.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, let's talk about what we're doing.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, like I get it.
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:18:37
SPEAKER_02: And it's just like that, that also showed the level of unprofessionalism in Corey, where it's like, you're in a content space, man.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_02: Like, just just if you want to start uh uh steal him on the way out, then maybe do that.
1:18:48
SPEAKER_02: But like you're gonna push the girl out the middle, step in.
1:18:52
SPEAKER_02: You did all that.
1:18:53
SPEAKER_02: That's her name.
1:18:54
SPEAKER_02: Darlene?
1:18:54
SPEAKER_02: That's her name.
1:18:55
SPEAKER_02: Darlene, I told you stop getting in between two niggas.
1:18:59
SPEAKER_02: Because she like, nigga, I thought we was on a show.
1:19:01
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh, so now we at the FC now.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:19:04
SPEAKER_02: So like it did look, it did look bad.
1:19:06
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, I think Ant got the best of it.
1:19:08
SPEAKER_02: And I think Ant had more to gain of it because I never heard of him.
1:19:11
SPEAKER_02: A lot of a lot of people heard him.
1:19:13
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think a lot of people hear more of Corey because well, a lot of black people hear more of Corey because of his nigga shit.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_02: But Ant, I think his his demographic is probably more the intellectuals, the whites, the this, the that, the third.
1:19:27
SPEAKER_02: So, like, damn.
1:19:28
SPEAKER_02: So, am I not an intellectual?
1:19:31
SPEAKER_02: No, but yeah, so I never heard of him.
1:19:33
SPEAKER_02: So, like, yeah, I never heard of him.
1:19:36
SPEAKER_02: So, it it brought more people to his life.
1:19:37
SPEAKER_02: He has a podcast, he does more like a YouTube tutorial.
1:19:43
SPEAKER_02: He does the live, he goes on other podcasts.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_02: I don't I'm sure this got him at least 2,000 subscribers.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_02: No, no, he's already popping online, and this probably helped his him.
1:19:51
SPEAKER_02: He got a new demographic because he might have you now.
1:19:54
SPEAKER_02: And now it's like, even if the it's eyes optics, yeah.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_02: So even if um he is or he isn't, and everybody's like, and he's not pussy.
1:20:03
SPEAKER_02: And he's not pussy, and that goes a long way.
1:20:04
SPEAKER_02: That goes a long way.
1:20:05
SPEAKER_02: Goes a long way with women, with men, yeah, yeah, anything.
1:20:08
SPEAKER_02: That nigga didn't back down.
1:20:09
SPEAKER_02: He really, he really won that exchange.
1:20:11
SPEAKER_02: But I saw a lot of people on the internet saying that he lost.
1:20:14
SPEAKER_02: And I was kind of like, oh, let me hear what my host, my co-host have to say.
1:20:17
SPEAKER_02: Because like, I'm torn on this.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, niggas, like, there's people say they both were selling wolf tickets, and I think that's fair because I don't think Anton won wanted to fight.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_02: What's that term?
1:20:27
SPEAKER_02: Wolf tickets.
1:20:28
SPEAKER_02: I could I could get it from the context of it.
1:20:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like, you know, like yeah, you wolfing, like you, you, you, you don't want to fight, you're just acting like you want to fight.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_02: You're just barking.
1:20:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're just barking, yeah.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_02: It's selling wolf tickets, yeah.
1:20:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, I don't know where it came from.
1:20:39
SPEAKER_02: I I've heard it since I was a kid.
1:20:41
SPEAKER_02: So like niggas say you wolfing, you selling you sending wolf tickets, you you you don't want to fight, yeah.
1:20:47
SPEAKER_02: That's that's pretty much what that phrase.
1:20:48
SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:20:49
SPEAKER_02: So they said they both was doing it.
1:20:51
SPEAKER_02: Um, and I kind of agree to an extent.
1:20:53
SPEAKER_02: I think that Anton didn't want to fight, but he just was not gonna back down.
1:20:57
SPEAKER_02: And I think Corey felt like he had to fight, but he didn't want to either.
1:21:00
SPEAKER_02: If you were if you were Ant-Man, Ant-Man, just name it, Anton Dance.
1:21:03
SPEAKER_02: Anton Dance.
1:21:04
SPEAKER_02: You think it's fucking Anthony Edwards or Hory Cole?
1:21:07
SPEAKER_02: If you were if you were him in that in that moment, on live, yeah, on camera, you got your security, this and that, would you have said it again?
1:21:15
SPEAKER_02: I would have stolen that nigga.
1:21:16
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't have said anything again.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_02: I would have stolen on him.
1:21:18
SPEAKER_02: Got you.
1:21:19
SPEAKER_02: But you wouldn't have said it again.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
1:21:20
SPEAKER_02: Let's say you let's say you didn't want to steal on him.
1:21:22
SPEAKER_02: Would you have said it again?
1:21:23
SPEAKER_02: I would have said it again.
1:21:25
SPEAKER_02: But I would have stolen on him.
1:21:26
SPEAKER_02: Because he was in the right environment to steal it again.
1:21:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:21:28
SPEAKER_02: I got my people.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_02: We on camera.
1:21:30
SPEAKER_02: Um there's there's no way I lose it.
1:21:31
SPEAKER_02: And you're asking me to say it again.
1:21:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I there's no way I lose it.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: But I know why he didn't.
1:21:34
SPEAKER_02: I know why he didn't.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: He didn't want to fight.
1:21:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he was trying to keep the show going.
1:21:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he wanted to he wanted to beat him in an intellectual battle.
1:21:41
SPEAKER_02: He wanted to brown nose a nigga.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_02: Show how much of a nigga.
1:21:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he wanted to browbeat him.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_02: He wanted to show you on your show how ignorant and stupid that you are, and some of your fans are not gonna become my fans because they're gonna realize like, damn, he's right about Corey.
1:21:52
SPEAKER_02: Because he did a a show where he like a little vlog or whatever, like he normally does.
1:21:56
SPEAKER_02: So this is like this is like a rap beef, like this is like a beef before the show.
1:22:02
SPEAKER_02: So now I'm gonna go on your show to show your fans how stupid they are for following.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_02: And take them.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_02: No, and like I said, this the people like because to me, Anton is in the same vein as the Kevin Samuels, like those, because the reason why Kevin Samuels is so poppin' is because he started taking women to task.
1:22:25
SPEAKER_02: Because Kevin Samuels, when he first started, his whole thing was men.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_02: His he didn't speak to women.
1:22:30
SPEAKER_02: His whole thing was like, he was you would you would ask him, like he gave like uh Anton, I'm Anton, uh Kevin.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm having problems with women.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_02: Okay, where do you work?
1:22:40
SPEAKER_02: How do you dress?
1:22:40
SPEAKER_02: How much do you weigh?
1:22:41
SPEAKER_02: He would do things like that, and he would correct the men and critique them, and they'll come back a week later, oh yeah, Kevin, what you said works, blah, blah, blah.
1:22:48
SPEAKER_02: That was his whole bag.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_02: He started getting popular when he started interacting with women.
1:22:53
SPEAKER_02: Because this one thing that you that you, I don't know if y'all all know this.
1:22:58
SPEAKER_02: Every woman thinks that she's the best.
1:23:01
SPEAKER_02: Men are more realistic.
1:23:03
SPEAKER_02: We know, okay, there's a nigga out there taller than me, there's a nigga out there with more money than me, there's a nigga out there with more dick than me, there's a nigga out there that got more bitches.
1:23:10
SPEAKER_02: There's a nigga, I drive a Mercedes, but there's a nigga driving a Porsche.
1:23:13
SPEAKER_02: Women, they're already in the Porsche.
1:23:15
SPEAKER_02: They already got all the money, they got the biggest dicks, they have the most they they got they're the tallest.
1:23:20
SPEAKER_02: So his whole thing was, well, no, you're not.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_02: And I'm gonna show you why.
1:23:24
SPEAKER_02: And he blew up with that type of content.
1:23:27
SPEAKER_02: So women hated him.
1:23:28
SPEAKER_02: So it's kind of the same thing with Anton, is like the people that nah, fuck that.
1:23:33
SPEAKER_02: The government owes me, and and and and nah, nah, nigga.
1:23:36
SPEAKER_02: I like I'm broke because of somebody else, those people are gonna side with Corey.
1:23:42
SPEAKER_02: So it's it's it's definitely an interesting thing.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_02: It was just two ideologies that meant to crack.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, that shit was edge.
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: That's edgy.
1:23:51
SPEAKER_02: It made you stop in the serial.
1:23:54
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he got up.
1:23:55
SPEAKER_02: Oh, he's in his face.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_02: That shit was crazy.
1:23:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_02: Um I want to go on both of their platforms.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm not mad at that.
1:24:06
SPEAKER_02: I want to I want to speak to both of them.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_02: I would have them here, but we should reach out.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_02: We Anton's gonna be like, well, fellas, you know, I'm a million-dollar type of guy.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_02: When you guys get to the million-dollar, I don't know, maybe I'm not familiar.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_02: He's up like that.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_02: He that's what he portrays.
1:24:21
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:24:22
SPEAKER_02: He's really into like self-improvement, money, like money.
1:24:26
SPEAKER_02: I think financial literacy is probably where he started, if I had to guess, because I didn't follow his whole thing.
1:24:30
SPEAKER_02: I I got wind of him probably a couple of years ago.
1:24:32
SPEAKER_02: Because it's uh one there's a power vacuum when things happen.
1:24:36
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like and I'm gonna give them some some some gas.
1:24:42
SPEAKER_02: When the JPP, when the JBP broke up, there was a power vacuum, and you seen all these pods kind of coming coming up because that type of content people were kind of starving for.
1:24:56
SPEAKER_02: So you saw a lot of other pods kind of like doing the same thing.
1:24:59
SPEAKER_02: And then once Joe kind of got his shit back together, those other pods kind of quieted down.
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: So when Kevin Samuels died, there was like a power vacuum of black Republican, not saying that Kevin Samuels was black Republican, but he's more of a like this ghetto shit.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: Nah, we want like a suit and tie, but and then a lot of dudes, and I think Anton kind of is filling it a little bit.
1:25:21
SPEAKER_02: Because Andrew Tate, he's like that, but black dudes don't really fuck with him like that.
1:25:27
SPEAKER_02: You know, Anton is kind of getting like black, like men, like like niggas that's like 38 to fuck with him because of the shit he's talking about they can relate to.
1:25:34
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm trying to get businesses and properties, and what do I do with my Roth IRA and my 401k?
1:25:39
SPEAKER_02: How do I maximize this and stuff like that?
1:25:41
SPEAKER_02: So his Okay, so he's multifaceted.
1:25:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, he's he's he's I don't I'm not gonna go on a limb to say he's the real deal because a lot of these people are faking the funk.
1:25:48
SPEAKER_02: Like they like, oh, there's a market here.
1:25:50
SPEAKER_02: I can shit on the black community and be black and it makes money.
1:25:53
SPEAKER_02: Because there's these two niggas that do this too, the Hodges twins.
1:25:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you ever heard of them, is these two twin brothers.
1:25:58
SPEAKER_02: They're like both light-skinned dudes, and their whole thing is they're super black Republicans and oh fuck your crack babies, and they're black.
1:26:04
SPEAKER_02: And their whole content is no, there's a whole side of the internet that this is how they pay their bills.
1:26:09
SPEAKER_02: But I don't know if these people are real, and I'm not gonna go out on a limb to say Anton is is uh is is either which way or another.
1:26:17
SPEAKER_02: So that's that's for the people out there to decide.
1:26:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm looking for the twins.
1:26:21
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I never seen them.
1:26:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, they they I'm telling you, the internet is a vast place, bro.
1:26:25
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the hottest ones, yeah.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no, that's true, bro.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_02: You'll see this real like I'd never heard of this person.
1:26:30
SPEAKER_02: You'll go 20 million followers.
1:26:32
SPEAKER_02: 20 million followers.
1:26:33
SPEAKER_02: Listen that, like you're like, okay.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's why y'all niggas need to get out there, like, subscribe, share, and get us on that level.
1:26:40
SPEAKER_02: Because you know the difference what we're gonna do for y'all is we're gonna bring y'all with us.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: Y'all gonna come with us.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_02: Pause.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_02: All right, um, another nigga selling wolf tickets.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_02: My nigga John Morant.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_02: Now, I'm a fan of the Miami Heat.
1:27:00
SPEAKER_02: So he thought of Frank too.
1:27:02
SPEAKER_02: So no, I don't think he did.
1:27:03
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_02: But I'm a fan of Miami Heat, and I think John Moran's gonna be a Miami Heat uh player soon.
1:27:08
SPEAKER_02: So, Ja, welcome home, buddy.
1:27:10
SPEAKER_02: But we're in New York, by the way, guys.
1:27:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so that's fine.
1:27:13
SPEAKER_02: Miami's close.
1:27:14
SPEAKER_02: Miami's the the fifth borough, sixth borough, whatever we call it.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_02: Eighth borough, ninth borough.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_02: I don't remember.
1:27:18
SPEAKER_02: We only have five here.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_02: There we go, six boroughs.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_02: We we traded Standing Island for Miami.
1:27:23
SPEAKER_02: Got you, got you.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_02: They're both islands, right?
1:27:25
SPEAKER_02: No, Miami's actually not an island.
1:27:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm wild, right?
1:27:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Peninsula.
1:27:31
SPEAKER_02: But, anyways, John Moran was caught in a practice, a Grizzlies practice, going back and forth with one of his teammates.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_02: And I saw a video where a dude who's a professional lip reader, he like dubbed over it.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_02: And from what I understood, they were running a play in practice.
1:27:49
SPEAKER_02: And this is just off of what the guy guy translated.
1:27:51
SPEAKER_02: He could have been just making this shit up.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: But they were running a play in practice, and Ja wasn't involved in the play, he was like on the sideline with Like the coaching staff.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_02: And he was like, You see what I'm talking about?
1:28:03
SPEAKER_02: And then one of the dudes in the practice is like, What are you talking about?
1:28:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, nigga, you you don't even want to be here.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_02: You want to you ask for a trade.
1:28:10
SPEAKER_02: I asked for a trade, you know that to be true.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_02: And then they started going back and forth.
1:28:14
SPEAKER_02: And then the nigga was like, Yo, we could step outside.
1:28:18
SPEAKER_02: Who's the nigga?
1:28:18
SPEAKER_02: I don't know who the player is.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_02: The other guy said.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_02: We can step outside.
1:28:22
SPEAKER_02: And Ja was like, I'm right here.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_01: But we gotta step outside right here.
1:28:29
SPEAKER_01: Talk to me.
1:28:31
SPEAKER_01: There, I agree with Ja.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_02: Oh, so I'ma fight you in front of.
1:28:35
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
1:28:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying they should fight.
1:28:38
SPEAKER_02: But if you're you're telling me to go, we could go outside to fight.
1:28:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's men.
1:28:41
SPEAKER_02: So we can we're in practice.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_02: We'll go to the back.
1:28:43
SPEAKER_02: Ain't no fans in here.
1:28:44
SPEAKER_02: No, but there's coaches in here.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_02: Our boss is here.
1:28:47
SPEAKER_02: Our supervisors.
1:28:48
SPEAKER_02: They're gonna find out about the fight anyway.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_02: Nah, that's not true.
1:28:50
SPEAKER_02: If Mew and I step in the locker room, box it up real fast, and come back out after our disagreement is over, nobody there was no nobody was there.
1:28:58
SPEAKER_02: We just saw what happened with Jordan Green, I mean, uh Draymond Green and Jordan Poole.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:29:03
SPEAKER_02: That happened in practice.
1:29:05
SPEAKER_02: It was recorded, it wasn't supposed to be.
1:29:07
SPEAKER_02: But this, what was happening right now, we all already know it's being recorded.
1:29:11
SPEAKER_02: So it was Ja selling Wolf tickets, or was his or the other player supposed to steal on him and start the fight?
1:29:18
SPEAKER_02: Talk to me, Charlie.
1:29:20
SPEAKER_02: Because of the context of what they were even arguing about, I would say Ja was selling Wolf tickets.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_02: One, so that means I'm taking back what I what I said.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_02: One, um The guy shouldn't have brought up information that one he didn't know for a fact, and two a little sensitive.
1:29:36
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm at I'm we at we have practice.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but you're shitting on me.
1:29:40
SPEAKER_02: You're the star player of the team.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_02: You're not running the play with us, and then you tell you telling the coaches, like, yeah, see, like, this is why I don't want to be here no more, or whatever the context could have been.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_02: And I'm offended because nigga, what you mean?
1:29:52
SPEAKER_02: You don't, nigga, you already out.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_02: Like, why are you even here?
1:29:54
SPEAKER_02: Get the fuck on then, nigga.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_02: Nah, nigga.
1:29:57
SPEAKER_01: Do something about it.
1:29:58
SPEAKER_01: Go to the back.
1:30:00
SPEAKER_01: Not going back there.
1:30:01
SPEAKER_01: Fight me right here.
1:30:02
SPEAKER_02: Knowing damn well we're not gonna fight in front of the coach.
1:30:05
SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna fight in front of the media.
1:30:07
SPEAKER_02: This nigga's a suit standard.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_02: It's tricky because yes, Ja is selling wolf tickets, but at the same time, this is not something we need to fight about.
1:30:13
SPEAKER_02: Ja was also at least a foot shorter than the guy.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if that matters.
1:30:17
SPEAKER_02: That guy was like a forward, maybe a power forward.
1:30:20
SPEAKER_02: Ja is a guard.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you gotta be strategic.
1:30:26
SPEAKER_02: You don't want to go along with that nigga.
1:30:27
SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
1:30:28
SPEAKER_02: That nigga whooped Ja ass.
1:30:29
SPEAKER_02: What you said?
1:30:30
SPEAKER_02: Put you in position, he put you in positions.
1:30:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, they did put you in positions that yeah, that might happen.
1:30:35
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, I just think um Ja was on his man shit, not backing down, but I don't think Ja really wanted to fight.
1:30:44
SPEAKER_02: Because it just wasn't something worth it.
1:30:46
SPEAKER_02: Is there something wrong with that?
1:30:48
SPEAKER_02: As men about not wanting to fight?
1:30:50
SPEAKER_02: But still have to How are you supposed to handle these situations?
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm raising a young man, right?
1:30:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:30:57
SPEAKER_02: So my son, right?
1:30:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm not.
1:30:59
SPEAKER_02: He will be one day, hopefully.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_02: If you want.
1:31:01
SPEAKER_02: Not pushing that on you.
1:31:03
unknown: My son.
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was.
1:31:06
SPEAKER_02: My son, right?
1:31:09
SPEAKER_02: I taught him if somebody hits you, and this is not what I was taught.
1:31:14
SPEAKER_02: Are you the pushover?
1:31:15
SPEAKER_02: Well, who's the pushover?
1:31:16
SPEAKER_02: There's always a pushover.
1:31:17
SPEAKER_02: In the parenting?
1:31:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:31:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, I'm the asshole.
1:31:19
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
1:31:19
SPEAKER_02: But my but my I think I'm my son's favorite, though.
1:31:23
SPEAKER_02: And I think the pushover is necessary.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_02: No, it is.
1:31:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you need to be.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_02: It has to be a push and pull.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
1:31:26
SPEAKER_02: Two assholes make an asshole.
1:31:28
SPEAKER_02: You know, that's a fair.
1:31:31
SPEAKER_02: So sometimes we we switch.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_02: On certain things I'm an asshole on, and certain things she's an asshole on.
1:31:37
SPEAKER_02: So he knows.
1:31:40
SPEAKER_02: But anyways, so I taught my son that if somebody hits you, you return it with absolute prejudice.
1:31:52
SPEAKER_02: So if somebody kicks you, you have the right to hurt them.
1:31:55
SPEAKER_01: To break them up.
1:31:57
SPEAKER_02: With no bounds.
1:31:59
SPEAKER_02: No bounds.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_02: That's what I taught him.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_02: I ran into a little trouble with that.
1:32:06
SPEAKER_02: How old is he?
1:32:07
SPEAKER_02: He's fine.
1:32:08
SPEAKER_01: So he's like, okay.
1:32:12
SPEAKER_01: He's at the park.
1:32:17
SPEAKER_01: His um his friend, his little sister, is like assaulting his friend.
1:32:24
SPEAKER_02: His friend's little sister is assaulting your son's friend.
1:32:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:32:27
SPEAKER_02: He thought that he my daddy told me I'm supposed to get involved.
1:32:31
SPEAKER_02: If I see something, so he get he doesn't hurt the girl or anything.
1:32:35
SPEAKER_02: But he gets involved, he kind of like, I think I wasn't there, but he probably like mushed her, like, hey, stop uh attacking my friend.
1:32:42
SPEAKER_02: I get wind of this.
1:32:44
SPEAKER_02: It's technically my fault.
1:32:47
SPEAKER_02: But I sat him down and I told him if you ever get into an interaction with a woman, you run.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_02: That is the exact opposite of every everything that blew his world.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_02: He was like, because they don't they don't see gender like that.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's like, but dad, she hit him.
1:33:03
SPEAKER_02: She hit him.
1:33:04
SPEAKER_02: He's supposed to eliminate her.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_02: He didn't say those words, but and I'm like, no, women are different.
1:33:13
SPEAKER_02: There's a double stand there.
1:33:14
SPEAKER_02: This is where he's learning the double stand there.
1:33:19
SPEAKER_02: You run.
1:33:21
SPEAKER_02: You find the first adult you can.
1:33:24
SPEAKER_02: And you're like, hey, she's hitting me.
1:33:26
SPEAKER_02: That is the only thing you can do.
1:33:28
SPEAKER_02: Now there's a guy out there listening to this and calling me a pussy, and I'm raising my son to be a pussy, and he should knock that bitch out, and she should learn that's how you want to raise your child, no problem.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_02: I'm trying to keep my son out of jail.
1:33:42
SPEAKER_02: That is how he understands now.
1:33:45
SPEAKER_02: He's about to have a little sister.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_02: So when it's women, you run.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_02: When they get violent, you get up out of there.
1:33:50
SPEAKER_02: You remove yourself in the situation.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_02: I know this doesn't really apply to what I'm talking about right now, but I'm trying to think if the sister changes it.
1:33:57
SPEAKER_02: I think it makes it worse.
1:33:58
SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm trying to say.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_02: Nah, you got it's the same thing.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_02: That's where you practice.
1:34:04
SPEAKER_02: At home is where you practice.
1:34:07
SPEAKER_02: Me and my sister used to shoot the fish.
1:34:09
SPEAKER_02: I know.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Because nobody.
1:34:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Pops probably told you.
1:34:12
SPEAKER_02: If anybody puts their handle on you, Taekwondo, nigga.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_02: That too, but also my dad was in my life 100%, but they they they divorced when I was young, so I didn't live with my dad.
1:34:23
SPEAKER_02: Okay, okay.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_02: But he was, you know, he he didn't he didn't disappear.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, so he wasn't there, you know.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_02: When you he's only there for the fun thing.
1:34:31
SPEAKER_02: He's not there when we're like when it's go time.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_02: Like we're arguing about the last piece of chick, whatever they are we're arguing about.
1:34:38
SPEAKER_02: But um, or the or the remote and shit like that, because now everybody got a TV back then.
1:34:42
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there's one TV, the whole crib had one TV.
1:34:44
SPEAKER_02: That's right.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_02: Niggas don't know how hard yo.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, guys.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_02: So um one TV and the whole crib.
1:34:50
SPEAKER_02: I never I always knew that hitting women was not right.
1:34:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but this is not a woman's, it's your sister.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I always but myself I gave her the rap.
1:34:59
SPEAKER_02: You see, and she gave me the rap, and she should know.
1:35:02
SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know if she knows, but I I hope she knows not to hit men.
1:35:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but she, you know, she didn't back down either.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_02: So But you're not a banter, you're her brother, yeah.
1:35:10
SPEAKER_02: That's a that's what I'm saying.
1:35:11
SPEAKER_02: I think having her little his little sister would be a little different, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:35:14
SPEAKER_02: So but like I'm saying, parenting is like building a plane while you're flying it.
1:35:20
SPEAKER_02: So it's never really complete.
1:35:22
SPEAKER_02: That's crazy.
1:35:23
SPEAKER_02: You just as long as it's in the air, that's your goal.
1:35:26
SPEAKER_02: So I'll see how it goes.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_02: But I brought this up because as a man, society dictates a lot of what we do, right?
1:35:36
SPEAKER_02: So as a man, what are we supp what was Josh supposed to do when a nigga confronted him?
1:35:40
SPEAKER_02: Society or women?
1:35:42
SPEAKER_02: Society.
1:35:42
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
1:35:43
SPEAKER_02: What was Josh supposed to do?
1:35:45
SPEAKER_02: When a nigga was like, hey, like, what the fuck are you talking about over there, nigga?
1:35:49
SPEAKER_02: Aren't you leaving?
1:35:49
SPEAKER_02: Was he supposed to be oh my bad brother?
1:35:52
SPEAKER_02: Oh Josh saw he could he there's a he he could do he could say a lot other than let's take it outside.
1:35:57
SPEAKER_02: But who said let's take it outside again?
1:35:59
SPEAKER_02: I yeah, I would have to re-watch the video.
1:36:01
SPEAKER_02: Because I saw in the video, I saw Ja pointing outside, like I don't really I think the guy channeled.
1:36:06
SPEAKER_02: I don't really remember, honestly.
1:36:09
SPEAKER_02: I really don't remember.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_02: Um but let's just say for the sake of the argument, the guy not not that not that LeBron is is Jesus, but what would LeBron do?
1:36:17
SPEAKER_02: What would LeBron do?
1:36:18
SPEAKER_02: And I think if you're at Ja level, if you're trying to get to certain levels, you're the superstar.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_02: You gotta start moving like a superstar.
1:36:26
SPEAKER_02: We've been talking about this for 15 minutes, and I still don't remember the other guy's name.
1:36:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't I don't I don't know the guy's name.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_02: So we're this is already not even worth my time.
1:36:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but alright, fuck it.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_02: You're at a bar, you and your homie is there.
1:36:40
SPEAKER_02: This guy and his homie is there.
1:36:41
SPEAKER_02: You you're getting you yo, can I get two beers?
1:36:45
SPEAKER_02: The bartender is uh is about to serve you, but then the guy is like matter of fact, I need two beers too.
1:36:52
SPEAKER_02: The bartender is kind of like oh nah, I gotta take care of him first.
1:36:55
SPEAKER_02: And the guy gives you a look.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah nigga.
1:36:58
SPEAKER_02: What do you what do you do?
1:36:59
SPEAKER_02: Oh the bartender says instead of me here, she has to take care of you first.
1:37:02
SPEAKER_02: And and then the guy also on top of that gives you a look, like, yeah nigga.
1:37:08
SPEAKER_01: You're there with your homie, you're not there by yourself, so there's a witness.
1:37:12
SPEAKER_01: This happened.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_01: What do you do?
1:37:16
SPEAKER_01: What do you think you supposed to do?
1:37:18
SPEAKER_02: And what do you want to do?
1:37:19
SPEAKER_02: What I want to do is is what I would want to do is be like, like, what would really the issue is not with him, it's the bartender.
1:37:28
SPEAKER_02: She's the reason this is happening.
1:37:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but he doubled down with the yeah, nigga.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, not yeah, you're right.
1:37:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_02: He didn't look over like, oh nah, like I know, because if I was the other guy, I would have just been like, because I don't want action.
1:37:41
SPEAKER_02: I would have been like, but I've I've been both guys.
1:37:44
SPEAKER_02: I would have been like, You gave the look?
1:37:46
SPEAKER_02: Damn, son.
1:37:46
SPEAKER_02: Not in that specific scenario, but there's been scenarios where I've used my power and ability to get something, and I let the other niggas in the room know, I'm more powerful.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm like that.
1:37:54
SPEAKER_02: And I've used I've used a scenario like that, and I've been like, so the other guy's apologetic.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_02: So to be honest, and again, men are logical.
1:38:05
SPEAKER_02: To be honest, depends on how he looks.
1:38:09
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:38:10
SPEAKER_02: If if if he's saying he's the same size and stature as you, so it's an even affair.
1:38:15
SPEAKER_02: So I might, I might just be like, oh, he.
1:38:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm what I'm like, all right.
1:38:20
SPEAKER_02: What are my options?
1:38:21
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, the world is yours.
1:38:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_02: What the f why the fuck you look at me like that?
1:38:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, oh, and then he tat his man, like, yeah, let's let's go tune these two niggas.
1:38:30
SPEAKER_02: Because there's some niggas that leave their and this is the delicate dances of man you have to do when you go outside.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_02: You have to judge these scenarios for what they are.
1:38:38
SPEAKER_02: Because your man's now might go back to your other man's like, yo, Charlie got punked at the bar, so I'm never going out with that nigga again.
1:38:45
SPEAKER_02: So that's in the back of your head, too.
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: Because if you're by yourself, it's different.
1:38:49
SPEAKER_02: But not as an audience of your peers.
1:38:52
SPEAKER_02: That doesn't, the audience does matter.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_02: It matters, and why does it have to?
1:38:55
SPEAKER_02: Why is being a man so annoying?
1:38:58
SPEAKER_02: I might, I might just, if, if the look is very obvious, I might just be like No, your man noted, like he noticed.
1:39:05
SPEAKER_02: I might I might just ask the guy, like, yo, what was that?
1:39:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:39:09
SPEAKER_02: And and and that'll go to where it goes.
1:39:11
SPEAKER_02: But I I'm I'm uh I am a peacemaker, but I'm not pussy.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
1:39:15
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I'm I'm all for peace.
1:39:20
SPEAKER_02: But if I gotta go in and take your president, then I'm gonna go.
1:39:24
SPEAKER_02: I've lived my life as a violent man.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_02: I have the scars to show.
1:39:28
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I didn't know that was from violence.
1:39:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
1:39:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, I didn't know it was from so like yeah, I I just don't because I think one, that's this is another thing that I be telling people is that fighting is exhausting.
1:39:43
SPEAKER_02: It's exhausting mentally, physically, it ruins the night.
1:39:48
SPEAKER_02: Like it just it messes up the whole thing.
1:39:51
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I'm fighting because you think that you're better than me because you got the bar to give you two beers 30 seconds before she gave me mine.
1:39:59
SPEAKER_02: That's that's what that's what we're fighting about.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:02
SPEAKER_02: When you put it like that, it sounds absolutely stupid.
1:40:04
SPEAKER_02: And again, you're giving me the look, right?
1:40:06
SPEAKER_02: Because you bout it.
1:40:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:09
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not even about it.
1:40:10
SPEAKER_02: It's like I did that to you.
1:40:12
SPEAKER_02: Like I'm acknowledging what happened.
1:40:13
SPEAKER_02: But you didn't do that to me.
1:40:14
SPEAKER_02: I felt like I did because I can't.
1:40:16
SPEAKER_02: See, but your feelings should not dictate it.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_02: But it's real life, though.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_02: I get you.
1:40:21
SPEAKER_02: I get you.
1:40:22
SPEAKER_02: And and and in the moment, it is, as a man, it is like gotta, but but and then again, you have to also think about other things.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_02: What could this cause me much?
1:40:31
SPEAKER_02: Uh death.
1:40:32
SPEAKER_02: Death.
1:40:33
SPEAKER_02: Jail.
1:40:34
SPEAKER_02: Jail.
1:40:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all that stuff.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:40:36
SPEAKER_02: You know?
1:40:37
SPEAKER_02: So does that change if it's your girl that's with you?
1:40:40
SPEAKER_02: I think everything matters.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_02: Like as a man, everything matters.
1:40:44
SPEAKER_02: I think that if you if your girl and it depends on the type of girl that you have, because some girls like seeing their men out there in action.
1:40:50
SPEAKER_02: That's okay.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_02: And some girls hate it.
1:40:52
SPEAKER_02: Like and and the girl that likes to see their man in action, that's the girl you need to stay away from.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_02: I would agree with that.
1:40:57
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:40:58
SPEAKER_02: Because if you're looking at me less as less of a man because I was able to defuse or avoid a life-threatening situation, then you're a toxic, bitch.
1:41:07
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I'm saying?
1:41:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, what do you fighting is for life to defend your life.
1:41:13
SPEAKER_02: Life, yeah.
1:41:13
SPEAKER_02: Because they don't, because women don't have their exchanges don't.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_02: Every other species fights to defend their life.
1:41:19
SPEAKER_02: And they fight usually to the death.
1:41:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, to the death, yeah.
1:41:23
SPEAKER_02: Once you engage, you know that I'm probably not coming back from it.
1:41:25
SPEAKER_02: Which is why they tell you to stay still if something attacks you, because they want to make sure you're dead.
1:41:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:41:31
SPEAKER_02: There's no ah, you got it.
1:41:32
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
1:41:33
SPEAKER_02: To a lion or a bear.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, ah, nigga.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_02: You gotta stop moving, gang.
1:41:37
SPEAKER_02: You gotta stop moving.
1:41:38
SPEAKER_02: And then they'll do something painful to you to make sure you don't bite your dick.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_02: So, like, but they don't understand that, bro.
1:41:43
SPEAKER_02: They don't understand that.
1:41:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I'm just looking at both of these scenarios.
1:41:47
SPEAKER_02: It's like, it's like a girl who says, like, if you do something to me, I'm gonna get you jumped.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:41:52
SPEAKER_02: You don't even understand where that could go.
1:41:54
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't even You don't know who I know.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_02: You don't know the position you're putting him in or them in.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_02: You don't know the position you're putting me in.
1:42:01
SPEAKER_02: Because you've never seen me have to fight for my life.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:42:04
SPEAKER_02: You've never seen me, like, you know what I'm saying?
1:42:05
SPEAKER_02: I've because I'm not gonna show that to you because you're a woman, whatever the case is.
1:42:08
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, it's it's so inconsiderate and and evil for one to for a woman to do to another man.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Evil.
1:42:16
SPEAKER_02: Yo, this other man cheated on me.
1:42:19
SPEAKER_02: This other man uh gave me ass TD.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_02: Whatever the case is, I want you to leave your family, leave your whoever you with, meet me, so you can go over there and commit a crime.
1:42:33
SPEAKER_02: You don't remember that story a couple of years ago?
1:42:35
SPEAKER_02: In the time where there's cameras everywhere, all the cases.
1:42:38
SPEAKER_02: I want you to beat him up, and I don't even know if you could win.
1:42:42
unknown: Yeah.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_02: This this girl got into a fight with her, like an argument with her her boyfriend or something, and she like called her brothers over, and then a shootout ensued.
1:42:51
SPEAKER_02: And it comes to find out, like, she like she told her brothers that he hit her, and he didn't hit her.
1:42:56
SPEAKER_02: They just had an argument.
1:42:58
SPEAKER_02: And like, I think I don't know if one brother died, one brother went to jail, the guy died, or something like that.
1:43:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, the girl was guys free.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_02: You remember the story in the Bronx where the girl wanted to buy some chips or EBT and something, and the guy, the cashier was like, nah, whatever the case is, and she went upstairs and told her boyfriend, and the because they lived above the store.
1:43:15
SPEAKER_02: Uh huh.
1:43:15
SPEAKER_02: She went and told her boyfriend, and he went downstairs and the guy stabbed him and killed the boyfriend.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_02: Nah.
1:43:20
SPEAKER_02: But it sounds like par for the course.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_02: You could have just not got the chips.
1:43:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:43:25
SPEAKER_02: Like, all right, you didn't get the chips.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, whatever.
1:43:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, you and and let's say you, let's say all right, you want to vent to your boyfriend.
1:43:31
SPEAKER_02: You should know who he is, type of person he is.
1:43:34
SPEAKER_02: And why not talk him out of it?
1:43:35
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
1:43:36
SPEAKER_02: Or if you know you can't, just don't bring it to him.
1:43:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, just don't bring it to him.
1:43:39
SPEAKER_02: Call your mother, call your your brother, call your sister to vent.
1:43:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, damn, them niggas is ox is bugging.
1:43:44
SPEAKER_02: But but if I'm ja, um, nah, I I might I might just I'm I'm gonna avoid the fight.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna avoid the fight.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think I think that's the the best thing, but it's like sometimes as a man, you feel like society has put this thing that you gotta fight.
1:43:57
SPEAKER_02: And then that puts you in a position of you gotta ask yourself, am I pussy?
1:44:02
SPEAKER_02: That's always a funny question.
1:44:03
SPEAKER_02: Like it's crazy.
1:44:05
SPEAKER_02: So Bro, pussy is smart.
1:44:08
SPEAKER_02: That the in the black, at least in the black community, we have taught ourselves and our friends and people that if you don't crash, that you're not like running, like people say don't don't run from a fight.
1:44:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:44:23
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes the smartest thing to do is run from a fight.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_02: If you run from a fight, you're a pussy.
1:44:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you ass.
1:44:32
SPEAKER_02: I'll never run from a nigga.
1:44:35
SPEAKER_02: Ever.
1:44:36
SPEAKER_02: And I always said the first person I'm not fighting is the person who's initiating the fight.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:44:42
SPEAKER_02: It's a home court advantage.
1:44:44
SPEAKER_02: You like you said, I don't know if you finished your statement, but you said a lot of niggas come out the house ready to fight.
1:44:48
SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, ready to fight.
1:44:49
SPEAKER_02: So, like, I'll come out the house and just go get fight.
1:44:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm trying to have fun.
1:44:52
SPEAKER_02: The reason you give me that look that you said, like, yeah, I got it like that, is that if, mind you, like if we're talking about me, like most people would probably not want to.
1:45:01
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:45:02
SPEAKER_02: So if you give me that look, I'm assuming God is on you.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_02: You got something.
1:45:05
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
1:45:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, so I already know this is a losing battle.
1:45:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even starting with you.
1:45:08
SPEAKER_02: So you starting with me.
1:45:09
SPEAKER_02: You already got the beers, you got what you wanted.
1:45:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you won.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_02: You won.
1:45:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but why are you now doing the extra?
1:45:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I wasn't.
1:45:14
SPEAKER_02: Because you got some type of confidence.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I want you to know, nigga.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, so yeah, but I never left my house ever when I was in my years of partying.
1:45:25
SPEAKER_02: I have like a vet.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_02: I got 10 years of partying on the mind, probably a little bit more.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_02: I never one time left the house wanting to fight.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_02: But when was your last fight?
1:45:35
SPEAKER_02: My last fight?
1:45:37
SPEAKER_02: Besides Dave fucking me up for two hours.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_02: Um, probably when I got this scar, honestly.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's probably.
1:45:45
SPEAKER_02: And then the funny part about that, I was trying to do this the one time I was trying to diffuse a fight.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
1:45:51
SPEAKER_02: And and I went against a better.
1:45:53
SPEAKER_02: That's another thing I don't know.
1:45:54
SPEAKER_02: I went I don't care, bro.
1:45:56
SPEAKER_02: I went against a better instinct.
1:45:58
SPEAKER_02: Call me whatever.
1:45:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't care what's happening.
1:46:00
SPEAKER_02: No, but it was it was a I'll tell you off air.
1:46:03
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was it was a whole different thing.
1:46:05
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like I was, oh, there's a fight happening.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_02: Let me be the the the guy.
1:46:08
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't like that.
1:46:09
SPEAKER_02: But um, yeah, no, but yeah, that's probably my last fight.
1:46:12
SPEAKER_02: But I used to like fighting though, but I never ever went outside with the intention of fighting, though.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_02: But I was Mr.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's action, I'm there.
1:46:20
SPEAKER_02: Like that was me.
1:46:21
SPEAKER_02: I just like I just liked it.
1:46:22
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, that's it.
1:46:23
SPEAKER_02: Shout out, shout out John Moran, shout out his teammate.
1:46:26
SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, we're not beholden to hey, we have to fight all the time.
1:46:31
SPEAKER_02: I think that's that's stupid.
1:46:33
SPEAKER_02: Um speaking of I did Yeah, okay.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_02: No, good.
1:46:37
SPEAKER_02: Uh I did want to ask you.
1:46:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what's you had you had set off the pod.
1:46:40
SPEAKER_02: Um you said, why do people of today look younger?
1:46:44
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:46:44
SPEAKER_02: And I was curious to what exactly you meant by that.
1:46:48
SPEAKER_02: Because it's almost like the people, the kids today look older.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:46:52
SPEAKER_02: So So what inspired that?
1:46:54
SPEAKER_02: What inspired that was I was on Twitter, right?
1:46:57
SPEAKER_02: And they like had pictures of like these actors.
1:47:01
SPEAKER_02: Like it was like the niggas from um Cheers.
1:47:02
SPEAKER_02: You know the show Cheers, like about a bar?
1:47:04
SPEAKER_02: And it was like, yeah, this guy, this guy was 28, and he's like bald here.
1:47:09
SPEAKER_02: He got the the Fred the Fred Samson going on.
1:47:12
SPEAKER_02: And then they showed a picture of uh Timothy Chalamet, and he's like, he's 29, and he looks like he can be in high school.
1:47:18
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha, gotcha.
1:47:19
SPEAKER_02: And I'm like, huh.
1:47:20
SPEAKER_02: Then then they started doing like people were like adding to the tweet.
1:47:23
SPEAKER_02: They I think they showed um some of the guys from um from um like oh my god, this black group.
1:47:29
SPEAKER_02: I forgot.
1:47:30
SPEAKER_02: Like it was like a black singing band.
1:47:31
SPEAKER_02: I can't remember their name, and I'm I'm gonna kill myself for not remembering.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_02: But no, not literally, but but um, yeah, it was like a black group, and it was like, yeah, these dudes were like uh 25, and these niggas had like full mustaches, and and then it's like they show a picture of like uh little Uzi Vert and he's like 30 and he looks like he can be in high school.
1:47:51
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, holy shit, like what was going on?
1:47:53
SPEAKER_02: So now it's like a big ass conversation.
1:47:55
SPEAKER_02: Like some people have their opinions, like a dermatologist chimed in.
1:47:58
SPEAKER_02: She was like, Yeah, um, people didn't moisturize back then.
1:48:01
SPEAKER_02: People smoked, they didn't moisturize.
1:48:03
SPEAKER_02: I was thinking about the smoking thing.
1:48:05
SPEAKER_02: Then one of the you know, the fitness gurus he spoke in, he's like, it's testosterone.
1:48:10
SPEAKER_02: Testosterone has a lot of things that age you.
1:48:13
SPEAKER_02: It takes the hair from your head and puts it on your body, you know, you're your muscular, you're more muscular, your face looks more mature when you're more muscular.
1:48:19
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Oh, like, because the reference was Timothy Chalamet.
1:48:22
SPEAKER_02: Timothy Chalamet, he doesn't look at him.
1:48:24
SPEAKER_02: Like, does this look like a guy that gets enough protein?
1:48:27
SPEAKER_02: Does this look like a guy that works out five days a week?
1:48:29
SPEAKER_02: Back in the day, niggas is working out.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_02: Like, think about how your grandfather grew up, uh, probably working on a farm or working on his own car or stuff like that.
1:48:36
SPEAKER_02: Like these people, they don't do that.
1:48:38
SPEAKER_02: They don't work out, they don't move around.
1:48:39
SPEAKER_02: So it was things like that.
1:48:40
SPEAKER_02: And I was just like, oh, like how do y'all feel about it?
1:48:42
SPEAKER_02: And now you see you're giving me the inverse, which is like, you feel like the kids in middle school look older now?
1:48:47
SPEAKER_02: Well, I was the I never really heard it with the men.
1:48:51
SPEAKER_02: I was I was more referring to like the women.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_02: Like now it's like, be careful.
1:48:55
SPEAKER_02: Not I guess they're not women.
1:48:57
SPEAKER_02: The girls.
1:48:58
SPEAKER_02: Okay, they seem even even when I was growing up, like women moms parents would be like, like, she's what age?
1:49:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know what I'm saying?
1:49:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, it just seems like they look older than my 13-year-old friends used to look like.
1:49:13
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
1:49:14
SPEAKER_02: So I thought that's what you I thought I was thinking more of where the girls are looking more developed, more of this.
1:49:18
SPEAKER_02: No, no, absolutely not.
1:49:20
SPEAKER_02: Um, it was just more of people in general.
1:49:22
SPEAKER_02: Like, some people that are like Angela Bassett is 67 years old.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_02: Think about Oh, that you know that black don't crack though.
1:49:31
SPEAKER_02: Think, and I was gonna probably make a very bad comparison, but still, like the gil, the the the um the golden girls, that TV show.
1:49:38
SPEAKER_02: Them bitches looked ancient, and they was probably younger than Angela Bassett is today.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, what is is it something in the wall?
1:49:45
SPEAKER_02: The cameras.
1:49:46
SPEAKER_02: Is it the cameras?
1:49:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like it's it's crazy.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_02: Um beautiful women.
1:49:50
SPEAKER_02: And do you think um what would you rather look?
1:49:53
SPEAKER_02: Um like would you prefer to be in the generation that we all look younger, scronier, less.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_02: Masculine, or would you rather be uh 28 with you know forearm hair and you know like what what's what's the better look for your generation for my generation well my because not not today's generation my generation is the fore hair for hair on the forearms yeah this today's generation like in my generation Timothy Chandler would not be bagging Chris Jenner Oh gotcha Kylie like you know she Kylie would want me yeah shout you out you're gonna get in trouble for that one okay but I'm just saying like but now it's like the softness see how you about to get me in another conversation I think that you know in a way it ties into like women wanting to be more masculine these days where now they'd rather a man a little more soft because they want to kind of be the men sometimes you know what I'm saying so it's like I think that plays into all of that but um yeah in my generation I think how I am and grew up was what it what it should be and I was spoiled I was I was tall and had a beard from like middle school yeah nigga not a full beard but like no you was a Dominican nigga I know I know I know how you gave it up nigga I niggas had mustaches I'm waiting for my son's only growing he's only six yo chills see we making our kids grow up too fast yeah yeah yeah no I I tell him that all the time that I want him to kind of like just be a kid so under no circumstance yes sir would you advise your son to defend himself physically against a woman at his current age no when he enters middle school I'll have this conversation with him which is if any person has a weapon they are all men if a woman has a weapon you break that bitch up like because I'm not trying to have my son die because he was running away from some girls he stabs him in the back of his neck because dad said run dad said to run and she's faster than you exactly you break that bitch up and then then you call the cops or whatever you gotta do.
1:52:04
SPEAKER_02: You've been hit by a woman oh no I have a story like a life altering story I'll never forget it and we're from the same neighborhood so you probably know the park um you know the Junction park the one that's right there 37 it's a pretty big park yeah right so I was playing basketball uh whoop de-whoop it's like in between the game I see one of my homeboys who I haven't seen in a while and I'm like it was different back in the day so I don't remember how old I was I don't want to say I was too young because niggas gonna be like oh you was at the park by yourself at that age but back then that's what niggas did it wasn't that far from my house I knew where it was my parents knew where it was there was no cell phones niggas just gotta be home before dark I can't remember exactly how old I was so let me just say I was 13.
1:52:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna use that because if you're in middle school you have to be between sixth and eighth grade.
1:52:50
SPEAKER_02: There we go.
1:52:51
SPEAKER_02: So just finished playing a ball see my homie he was there with his little sister who I've seen before and maybe like his cousin his big cousin who I've never seen before I go up to him I dab him we chopping it up his little sister there's a water fountain his little sister spits out of the water fountain and it lands on my shirt I don't think nothing of it I think my reaction my non-reaction gave the older cousin who was also a female she started chewing they had like these chips like a bag of chips she started chewing up chips put getting the water in her mouth and spitting on on my shirt she did it right after like the the little girl did it first and it was just water I just looked at it and me and my man's talking and she did like blap and I was like what the hell and he gave me this look of stall this I'm so sorry but I can't help you dog because this was his older cousin so she probably was whooping his ass because remember girls develop way faster than us at those ages yeah so she was she was taller than him I was about I was taller than her but it wasn't about much and she can she does it like five times but I'm just I I froze I didn't know what to do five like give me the real number it was like five times what I didn't and the little girl is laughing you know how long it takes to chew chips it was it happens so fast though and the dudes in the park like I was just playing ball with gray T nah it was like a gray T.
1:54:26
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha the dudes in the park um it's like yo like these are kind of they're a little bit older they're like yo what what's shorty doing and because they kind of caught wind of it she's kind of stopped and then I'm still stuck so sh then she swung my I didn't do anything.
1:54:43
SPEAKER_02: She swung at me boom I grabbed her hand.
1:54:45
SPEAKER_02: She swung on with the other hand boom I grabbed the hand now the girl the the the little girl's crying because it was fun when she did it because she's a like a she was like a let's say she was like five nah this is a wild story nigga it's it's a like burned into I can I'm I'm bringing myself back there right now.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_02: So I'm holding her hands she has water in her mouth she spits the water in my face so that and then like some dude comes and breaks us up and like I just remember my homeboy's face like he was so sad because he couldn't he didn't say one word the whole time and they ended up just leaving the park.
1:55:22
SPEAKER_02: So I take off my shirt and I always been like a chubby kid so you know fat niggas never want to take their shirt off.
1:55:26
SPEAKER_02: I had a wife beat underneath though I take off my shirt I put the shirt down.
1:55:32
SPEAKER_02: You was always chubby yeah I've been chubby my whole life um I I uh I had like two years where I got into pretty decent shape it was like right after high school no no it was during high school and then um when I started uh working out under my man Gothri I got in probably the best shape of my life but obviously it didn't last that long but oh yeah I know what I'm doing I know what I'm doing um but yeah so I take off my shirt which was a lot for a chubby nigga to do anyways but it was covered in chewed up chip and spit and some dude came over to me right he was like yo bro we all seen that whole thing bro you showed a lot of restraint you should have punched that bitch out of the face and I don't I don't even know if I ever told my parents like I went home like it was just a normal day.
1:56:12
SPEAKER_02: But see one would be crazy like you would say then they would look at you crazy but like so she don't get deserved she don't that don't that's not worthy of a punch to the face that them niggas told me that I should have punched her face like I should have dropped her.
1:56:24
SPEAKER_02: And that and and that takes me back to the bar that I went to so when they were having that exchange at the other table his boy so when she's telling the guy like oh oh don't talk to him like that whatever he's arguing back with her.
1:56:35
SPEAKER_02: His boy is like like chill like you know this and that and I mean yo it's so crazy like this girl's we didn't know what was going on until the unattractive friend started making the scene because she's yelling yeah so it's like damn like we're we're just trained to take any amount of disrespect from women and his man's even I don't even I don't know who's right or wrong.
1:56:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but his man's just like don't don't even do it bro yep that's that's how it be just gotta eat it.
1:57:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah so if you were the kid version of me what would you have done Charlie um the kid version of well may still be me might be petty might go get some chips myself but um no I wouldn't have froze though I mean I mean I don't know you were 13 I could have been younger I what I tell you I wouldn't do was definitely not hit her.
1:57:24
SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't have hit her like I that that wasn't I'm not a I'm not my instinct is not violence so like that's not my first instinct you know um but um definitely move out the way at least I froze though you know what I'm saying if I if I know myself I probably would have just drank some water and spit at her too I'm 13 I just saw the little girl do it so it's it's fresh in my mind all right all right boom if she black yeah everybody was black spit in her hair that was crazy yeah you about to hit yo clip that up that that's it that's that's the clip right there brother hey there's certain things but you're right though I know you got no whole weak spot you got on her weak spot yeah you're right because they're gonna kick us in the balls right yeah nah that's what that once I grabbed both of her that kick was definitely to the balls but I blocked it and then she just uh right in my face and then niggas broke it up I'll never forget that dude bro that nigga came over to me he was I'm sad little father would you do you agree with him would you tell your kid yo that happened punch in the face run you should I should have won yeah you should have ran I should have ran home yeah because the home was right there I that that that park it's on junction boulevard my crib is on 101st I literally could have just ran home I froze so yeah five yeah bro the whole shirt I I left the shirt at the park my parents have no idea that probably ever happened that you know why that was life changing that's probably what made you now start fighting no I was fighting before that my block made me into a fight so what the fuck I fro I I never had a a negative interaction with a woman like that.
1:58:55
SPEAKER_02: I didn't grow up with a little sister like you know all the girls on our block were not fucking throwing hands it was like I froze dog and I'm telling I'm from a block where you can't like if niggas heard you ran from a nigga they're gonna they go my niggas in my block is gonna beat you up and they we're gonna go find that nigga and you're gonna fight him and if you lose to that nigga we're gonna beat you up again.
1:59:14
SPEAKER_02: That's kind of how like we grew up it was very tough.
1:59:16
SPEAKER_02: Everybody was tough you know how it was bro back in the early 2000s like everybody was tougher than they had to be and specifically on my block it was a lot of boxing like like there was a dude that was trying to be a boxer on my block I had like older uh big homies like they was on some boxing shit like when you came outside the gloves was out like you when you line up line it up run it so fighting was never foreign to me in that circumstance it was just violence with a woman I never experienced that so like yeah very formative but um talk about informative so we're podding right now yes sir and I have to pee what what you want to do what would be the process um I would uh tell you to go pee I'll I'll talk to them I'll take care of it I think I'm a professional do your thing do your thing while Charlie uh excuses himself from the pod this is the time where I want to introduce you guys to um this new podcast that I think I'm gonna start soon I know I'm gonna start soon it's gonna be called uh Real Talk this is a commercial for real talk right now so you know we come in here sometimes and we speak about movies television anime and it's usually like a 10-15 minute segment because you know we're trying to get to the things yeah I really want to hear about but what if there was a whole podcast just dedicated to that weekly biweekly or even monthly on the newest movies the newest TV shows the newest anime episodes and all the cool nerd pop culture me and a couple of guys we're gonna get together and we're gonna run it and it's gonna be called Real Talk it's coming really soon and we're gonna cover all the cool things that happen on TV and you know movies and shit like that and we might have some special guests that you guys haven't seen yet and you know stay tuned for that but um yeah I I hope you guys uh support that and it's it's gonna have its own feed eventually but it's definitely going on the uh the gas money feed eventually I don't know what Charlie's up to right now nigga sit down nigga I'm just trying to make sure it is there's there's a fucking red light on there you just got here this guy man you don't you see that red light wait to the red light that means it's on you got you nervous with cash in here can't get it done without cash oh it's getting done I see that um yeah I just gave them an infomercial while you were gone um but yeah so I want to get into this uh this topic I uh another topic I wish Cash was here for because maybe he would get a little bit more understanding of why I have so much animosity towards the ice niggas that's running around.
2:01:46
SPEAKER_02: So there's this gentleman by the name of uh Paul Birdson Bert Song sorry Paul Birdsong and he's uh he claims that he's the new chairman of a chapter in the Black Panther Party that's out of Philly for those of you that are not familiar with the Black Panther Party it was a political socioeconomic group back in the 19 let me just say 70s I don't remember.
2:02:09
SPEAKER_02: I haven't studied up on this in a long time let's say the 70s and it was about community right so the Black Panther Party one of the first things they did was they armed themselves.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_02: They trained themselves and they armed themselves because in most of um those cities that they were in you could carry firearms for self-defense.
2:02:25
SPEAKER_02: So they were essentially like a police force for their own neighborhood so if you were stealing black white Asian whatever you would be dealt with by the Panthers.
2:02:36
SPEAKER_02: If you were doing graffiti in areas that we don't want graffiti in like maybe churches and schools the Black Panther party would be there with guns.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_02: If you were police officers and you were you would think twice about coming into the neighborhoods that were protected by the Panthers because they are armed.
2:02:51
SPEAKER_02: And they're not armed with nine millimeter handguns they're armed with artillery.
2:02:56
SPEAKER_02: So now in the current day this guy is going viral because he's showing up at these ice raids with his guns and he has like this famous quote that's kind of going viral right now like yo if an ice officer runs up on me I'm putting a hole in him the size of a window that's his shit.
2:03:13
SPEAKER_02: Now do I necessarily think that that's the way that you should handle the interactions with ice probably not because most people are not armed and it's probably illegal where you're from to be armed anyways.
2:03:24
SPEAKER_02: But this is what I would feel like is a natural response to somebody coming into your neighborhood and jacking people and there's no due process.
2:03:36
SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of like what I was trying to explain uh to Cash yes uh the last pod was like I just think the government did a really poor job at rolling ice out to us like I think they could have done a uh a you know like a bulletin like you know put up posters or something hey if you see ice and you're you're not you're not uh an illegal immigrant just f just follow protocol ice is gonna treat you with the rights and respect something bro like that's all I really wanted and I think our government our local government our big government dropped the ball on that and I want to salute this brother I'll give you pushback on that because your thing the bulletin kind of went out your thing was badge and and face like face masks like you were like I don't give a fuck what the government said why don't you have a badge why don't you I mean I don't think I said that necessarily like I don't give a fuck because this is when Cash read something off the government website and you were like yeah ICE's website dot gov.
2:04:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah that's ice but that's ice like I wanted it more to be like our local congressperson going on the news or nigga did you have you not seen Mandani on Twitter like every day talking about why couldn't they do the same thing for ICE?
2:04:43
SPEAKER_02: That's all I'm saying is like the community everybody's on at on at uh unease because we don't know how I don't know how to interact with these motherfuckers honestly so it's it's just very jarring.
2:04:55
SPEAKER_02: What this dude is doing salute to him because that's what the Black Panther Party was about and I even give um the uh the Jewish community a lot of props because they did it in a obviously a more organized way because you can make the argument that they would never let black people organize this way to begin with.
2:05:09
SPEAKER_02: But the Jewish community they have their own police force oh yeah like they have their own cars so they police themselves and if you're being policed by people that give a fuck about you a lot of these violent outbursts probably won't happen because hey that kid is AG's son is AG's son and and yeah I'm gonna hey yo bro cut it out because I'm I'm gonna whoop your ass and your dad's gonna whoop your ass and I'm saying and I know your dad too exactly because I'm I'm part of the the community yeah so I I like that as opposed to niggas hopping out of cars and pulling people in the vans and we're gonna hear from them again.
2:05:45
SPEAKER_02: So that's that's all I was saying.
2:05:46
SPEAKER_02: No biggie I know you know y'all a peacemakers or super cop niggas I get it I might I might be the the outlier there but it's fine.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_02: But uh shout out shout out that dude though but um he's been getting a lot of flack online though because some people don't believe in the Panther Party anymore because it hasn't been around people they don't teach us it in school like we spoke off pod like the little bit you know about us in school they don't do a whole thing and like they there was a movie the uh Judas and the Black Messiah I don't know if you saw it but it does a pretty good job.
2:06:15
SPEAKER_02: Daniel Kalua plays uh Fred Hampton and he's like you know one of the more prolific members but it's a whole it was a whole big movie man they started with a breakfast program where they just fed all the kids like in the neighborhood like hey before you go to school come here and get breakfast because their parents couldn't do it because their parents work or their parents can't afford to or it's it's dope.
2:06:32
SPEAKER_02: The Black Panther Party was really dope and you know how it got destroyed infiltrated by whites no they they flipped the black person like he snitched and they killed they assassinated Fred Hampton and did the they killed all the leaders and all the other leaders had to run away but it's it's it's dope.
2:06:52
SPEAKER_02: Just seeing it I'm a Black Panther Party type of guy.
2:06:55
SPEAKER_02: Like I like seeing the memorabilia I like seeing it's dope.
2:06:57
SPEAKER_02: You uh you know off of that um you mentioned like political uh local politician interactions with the community yeah what's up did you see Eric Adams getting off the plane he was bugging yeah now that that nigga shows every time why he shouldn't have been our man yeah every time bro but that was so he said he was about to bring the brook he was talking to a woman right yeah he said you're gonna find out he said you're gonna bring the Brooklyn Brooklyn out of me yeah yo that was hilarious does Brooklyn still got that cachet of tough niggas I'm from Brooklyn that should mean something now because I remember when I was coming up in in our generation it used to mean something Eric Adams generation yes yeah I think that no if you're 20 years old right now that'll mean who the fuck is the fuck why you still get boom bop that's the thing there's no differences anymore yeah everybody's all the same everybody's all the same and it's not just the Burrows bro I think it's life channel the internet has made there's a monoculture like when you see those videos of like a girl doing a video of like a queen's girl Harlem girl a Bronx girl only we understand what they're talking about.
2:08:06
SPEAKER_02: Now everybody is gonna everybody's car D B yeah you know all right for the most part what do you prefer in terms of what the monoculture that we're living in now or everybody having over distinctions yeah you know because because it also makes space for you to be distinct like it if everyone's if monoculture that means now no one could be different.
2:08:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah but if people are different then all differences are accepted.
2:08:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah you know what I'm saying like if I want to wear even off of wearing just however I want to move it'll be accepted because everyone's different yeah but it's like if you're the same if everyone's the same it's like there's a uniform we all gotta wear exactly if you don't got the uniform on you bum ass.
2:08:44
SPEAKER_02: Now there's a uniform now the uniform is the uniform started with Nike Tech.
2:08:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah it didn't start there.
2:08:50
SPEAKER_02: But I'm just saying like that's definitely a uniform that's definitely a uniform but um yeah yeah it started a lot of stuff um you know I mean the first uniform I get probably the first uniform for black coach was poly Jordans yeah that was probably your first uniform yeah you had to have a pair of Jordans coming back to school the two times is the first day of school and they're coming after after winter break.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_02: And you notice right off Christmas yeah you notice every Christmas a pair of 11s come out and you didn't have them and the retail for those are usually 40-50 dollars more than more than average than came out all year.
2:09:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah life man as much as I complain about it's crazy my poor and his relative but you know my poor cousin in DR saved all this money up and was begging me to try to get him the gammas for retail I'm like yo$250 is a lot for me why you may not know me spending$250 bro is like him spending probably literally like a thousand or more damn because it because of just how much you could do with$250 in DR.
2:09:59
SPEAKER_02: So it's like really and I think is is is the power of social media and and clout if you don't got these you're not popping when they don't even back when I was growing up they didn't even care if it was real or not.
2:10:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah give me just as long as it got the jump man on it but now it's so much it's crazy.
2:10:16
SPEAKER_02: Give me the jump man but speaking of culture it's a lot going on man but I want to specifically speak about my man speed the streamer so I don't know if y'all heard but on this podcast I've been very critical of speed because he did this one thing that I didn't like this one time.
2:10:39
SPEAKER_02: And I think he's repaid his debt to society well today to AG at least he doesn't even know I fucking exist but are you easy to forgive like do you forgive easily yeah okay so what I was mad about speed was uh he was in one of those Asian countries and he was like doing backflips over chicken I didn't like that yeah I didn't I didn't like that but he's undone that was the line for you yeah I was like come on you are too you're too important to be doing that type of shit but but him showering with Kai that was that was I mean we live in a different gender if I really give you my thoughts on that we probably don't party next week but um he's in Africa he's doing the Africa tour and I don't know if you've been paying attention a lot but there's been a lot of discourse online about how hey Africa's bum ass it sucks it's dirty uh there's nothing in Africa that has been the history of Africa since we were kids and the second layer is Africans don't like black Americans that has been a lot of shit going on online now your personal experience with Africans I'm not trying to say that it's not real but I think there's powers that be that want to keep Africa the continent and Africans around the world like people of African descent separated because Africa has the most resources on the planet it has the youngest population on the planet has the fastest growing population on the planet you combine That with the influence and power of black America, you're looking at a new superpower, right?
2:12:05
SPEAKER_02: So if I was the powers that be, I would want to keep that as separate as possible, correct?
2:12:10
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
2:12:10
SPEAKER_02: So that's my opinion on it.
2:12:12
SPEAKER_02: That's why I think as of late, there's been a lot of anti-Black American, anti-Africa sentiments.
2:12:17
SPEAKER_02: I think because the powers that be want it.
2:12:19
SPEAKER_02: Speed is doing God's work.
2:12:21
SPEAKER_02: Speed has gone to Africa.
2:12:23
SPEAKER_02: He's not only proven that Africa is full of beautiful women, delicious food.
2:12:29
SPEAKER_02: Africa has every type of terrain.
2:12:32
SPEAKER_02: You can find snowy mountains, you can find desert, you can find grassland, you can find forests, you can find beach.
2:12:38
SPEAKER_02: It has everything.
2:12:39
SPEAKER_02: You literally can fit almost all the continents in Africa.
2:12:42
SPEAKER_02: But when you look at a map, Africa's not that big.
2:12:44
SPEAKER_02: But in an actuality, you can probably fit the whole world there in terms of the side.
2:12:48
SPEAKER_02: Because who drew that map?
2:12:49
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:12:50
SPEAKER_02: See, Charlie, I'm starting to about to get you a hat.
2:12:53
SPEAKER_02: Give me some glasses.
2:12:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I got it.
2:12:55
SPEAKER_02: I got you.
2:12:57
SPEAKER_02: I literally only wear these glasses is the fucking glare.
2:13:00
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:13:00
SPEAKER_02: Not trying to stall on my niggas.
2:13:02
SPEAKER_02: Got you.
2:13:03
SPEAKER_02: Anyways, he has been doing so much good work in Africa, man.
2:13:08
SPEAKER_02: He's having a blast.
2:13:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:13:10
SPEAKER_02: He's doing this regular speed thing.
2:13:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:13:12
SPEAKER_02: Which is he's not there on some fucking Malcolm X journey on some like, I'm gonna super series this out.
2:13:16
SPEAKER_02: He's having fun.
2:13:17
SPEAKER_02: And the way that they're responding to him, they're treating him well.
2:13:20
SPEAKER_02: It's not like they're shitting on him.
2:13:22
SPEAKER_02: It's not like they're like, because in the European countries, there's so many clips of them throwing monkey jokes at the nigga.
2:13:27
SPEAKER_02: Like there was this one time he was walking through like a um a restaurant in Europe, and they were like tight that he was there.
2:13:32
SPEAKER_02: And Africa's like and Africa's the complete opposite.
2:13:35
SPEAKER_02: They're they're people that welcomed him into their home.
2:13:38
SPEAKER_02: Like he's on the street, and like they found like two other speed clones that they look like him, and he's like he he embraced them.
2:13:45
SPEAKER_02: They were all running around together.
2:13:46
SPEAKER_02: They they talking to the girls.
2:13:48
SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's really dope, it's really fly.
2:13:51
SPEAKER_01: Until he went to Egypt.
2:13:55
SPEAKER_01: He went to um Algeria.
2:13:58
SPEAKER_01: He went to North Africa.
2:14:01
SPEAKER_02: Uh now I'm gonna say something pretty controversial.
2:14:08
SPEAKER_01: What most people don't know is for the past ten years people have been trying to remove the African out of Egypt.
2:14:23
SPEAKER_01: White people have been saying that Afri Egypt who really built the pyramids were not Africans, they're aliens.
2:14:32
SPEAKER_02: They were some other culture because Africans couldn't be smart enough to create this modern marvel that ancient marvel actually that nobody else can do.
2:14:40
SPEAKER_02: The people that are currently living in North Africa are invaders.
2:14:48
SPEAKER_01: They're Arabs, descendants of invaders, yeah.
2:14:50
SPEAKER_02: They Arabs, they're not African, they are African by the sake of they were born in Africa.
2:14:56
SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like how imagine if Egypt was the United States in the ancient world.
2:15:03
SPEAKER_02: This is where all the knowledge was.
2:15:05
SPEAKER_02: Like the Greeks and Romans used to come to Egypt to study.
2:15:09
SPEAKER_02: They don't teach us this, but they used to come here to study under black Africans.
2:15:15
SPEAKER_02: They eventually conquered Egypt.
2:15:17
SPEAKER_02: Like some of uh the Egyptian pharaohs were Europeans, like that's a fact.
2:15:22
SPEAKER_02: We know that because like all civilizations things get it's like how Abraham Lincoln, if he were to look into a time, a time machine, and he saw Barack Obama as president, he would have a heart attack.
2:15:35
SPEAKER_02: Because he's like, How did y'all let the slave people be run the country?
2:15:40
SPEAKER_02: Abraham Lincoln?
2:15:41
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because Abraham Lincoln didn't free the slaves off of GP.
2:15:46
SPEAKER_02: We don't fuck with Abraham?
2:15:47
SPEAKER_02: I didn't say I don't fuck with Abraham, but one of his main motives was yeah, let's free them and get them out of here.
2:15:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, but these are not things they teach us in history.
2:15:56
SPEAKER_02: And yo, don't believe my word for it.
2:15:58
SPEAKER_02: Go out there and do your own research.
2:16:00
SPEAKER_02: So Egypt, which is a in Africa, which is black, they try to kind of shove it to the Middle East.
2:16:08
SPEAKER_02: Quiet is kept, the Middle East is not a real place.
2:16:10
SPEAKER_02: That's something they made up.
2:16:12
SPEAKER_02: It was originally Africa.
2:16:13
SPEAKER_02: All of that shit is Africa, but there are people that live there now.
2:16:17
SPEAKER_02: It's funny, right?
2:16:18
SPEAKER_02: Because it's not a continent.
2:16:19
SPEAKER_02: No.
2:16:20
SPEAKER_02: So how did it ex- Why is it why is that why is that piece of That's funny?
2:16:24
SPEAKER_02: Because they have Asia, continent, they have Africa, East.
2:16:27
SPEAKER_02: America, Americas.
2:16:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Middle East is not a continent.
2:16:31
SPEAKER_02: No, they just called it that.
2:16:35
SPEAKER_02: What's the knowledge?
2:16:36
SPEAKER_02: I'm telling you, man, like I get on here and talk a lot of bullshit, but I'm really here to inspire.
2:16:40
SPEAKER_02: No, that but yeah, so he only started getting problems when he went to these northern um African countries because the people that are there today are not essentially African in the terms of holistically, culturally, they are Arabic mostly, and their culture is different.
2:17:00
SPEAKER_02: Speed is an at in their mind, he's an African.
2:17:03
SPEAKER_02: I we don't really jack them like that.
2:17:06
SPEAKER_02: Go stay in West Africa, stay in South Africa, stay over there.
2:17:09
SPEAKER_02: That's where y'all are at.
2:17:09
SPEAKER_02: This is our shit.
2:17:11
SPEAKER_02: And it just, I'm just glad that him going there and exposing these things is dope.
2:17:16
SPEAKER_02: Not saying they're bad people, I'm not shitting on a whole because there's there's still people in Egypt that are black African, but it's the minority that we see.
2:17:24
SPEAKER_02: I've always said, I mean, I've I've I've traveled a lot and I've been to East Africa, I've been to West Africa.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: You have?
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:17:29
SPEAKER_02: Multiple times.
2:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Yo, put me on, gang.
2:17:32
SPEAKER_02: How was it?
2:17:33
SPEAKER_02: I've been there.
2:17:34
SPEAKER_02: And what what caused you to do that?
2:17:36
SPEAKER_02: Well, um, my mom had a friend from Ghana.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:17:41
SPEAKER_02: He was born there, but he lived here, but he was he was back and forth.
2:17:44
SPEAKER_02: So we would always he would always go there for his birthday.
2:17:46
SPEAKER_02: So we would go there for his birthday.
2:17:48
SPEAKER_02: Um, so I've been to Ghana maybe like five times.
2:17:50
SPEAKER_02: And I've been to Kenya uh once, um, Tanzania.
2:17:55
SPEAKER_02: Talk.
2:17:55
SPEAKER_02: Yo, talk to me, bro.
2:17:57
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's it's fun.
2:17:58
SPEAKER_02: It's nigga living my dream.
2:17:59
SPEAKER_02: Everything you said is accurate.
2:18:01
SPEAKER_02: The food is great, the women are beautiful, they're they're very welcoming.
2:18:04
SPEAKER_02: You was out there fucking?
2:18:05
SPEAKER_02: Nah, no, I wasn't fucking.
2:18:07
SPEAKER_02: All right.
2:18:07
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't.
2:18:08
SPEAKER_02: I don't believe you, but it's fine.
2:18:10
SPEAKER_02: It's fine, guys.
2:18:11
SPEAKER_02: I wasn't.
2:18:12
SPEAKER_02: Um food, like everything you said, beaches, all that.
2:18:16
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, the the the the the propaganda that has been sold to us in America is so inaccurate.
2:18:21
SPEAKER_02: All the all the kids with not eating up, that's not.
2:18:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously, there's probably.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's there.
2:18:25
SPEAKER_02: It's not propaganda.
2:18:26
SPEAKER_02: This is the thing, right?
2:18:27
SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine how America would look on a global scale if they only showed us the fucking trailer trash?
2:18:32
SPEAKER_02: Right, right, right.
2:18:33
SPEAKER_02: How would people look in America?
2:18:34
SPEAKER_02: If they never showed us Bill Gates and Elon, well, Elon, whatever.
2:18:37
SPEAKER_02: Because you still see Range Rovers, Mercedes.
2:18:39
SPEAKER_02: All that is out there.
2:18:40
SPEAKER_02: Of course.
2:18:41
SPEAKER_02: Maybax and all that shit.
2:18:42
SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, it is.
2:18:44
SPEAKER_02: I I agree.
2:18:44
SPEAKER_02: And I and when people ask me where's one of my favorite favorite places to go, it's Ghana.
2:18:49
SPEAKER_02: I love going to Ghana.
2:18:51
SPEAKER_01: Yo, I'm tickle me pink.
2:18:54
SPEAKER_01: Four.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
2:18:55
SPEAKER_01: Damn, I'm actually jealous.
2:18:58
SPEAKER_02: Oh, well, one day we can go.
2:19:00
SPEAKER_02: You you take me?
2:19:03
SPEAKER_02: We can go.
2:19:04
SPEAKER_02: Wait, this ain't no Diddy 57.
2:19:06
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna take me shopping.
2:19:07
SPEAKER_02: We can go together.
2:19:09
SPEAKER_02: That that's so dope, bro.
2:19:10
SPEAKER_02: Like, yeah, that actually like really warms my heart, but I think that we all, especially people of African descent, we need to go back and connect with the motherland.
2:19:17
SPEAKER_02: Like, just touch how did it feel?
2:19:18
SPEAKER_02: Just yo.
2:19:20
SPEAKER_02: It felt it it feels it feels great.
2:19:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I the the the door of no return was emotional.
2:19:27
SPEAKER_02: Like that was also you one of the Dominicans that know you black.
2:19:32
SPEAKER_02: Fuck on jump.
2:19:33
SPEAKER_02: You already established.
2:19:34
SPEAKER_02: But um, but I did the I did the excursions or whatever.
2:19:38
SPEAKER_02: Somebody from your ancestry was put on a boat and sent to DR, and now you're here.
2:19:44
SPEAKER_02: The conditions that those I I just imagine like the times too, because like we're talking so many years ago, but the conditions of the of those holding cells were like inhumane.
2:19:56
SPEAKER_02: There's no word to like you have to be there, like to feel like because it it you will you probably will cry if you do that tour.
2:20:04
SPEAKER_02: Probably not, but no, you probably will, especially like and you're black blacker than me.
2:20:10
SPEAKER_02: See, I don't like in in I'm not blacker than in in culture.
2:20:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, you actually, I don't know what that means.
2:20:16
SPEAKER_02: Your house was black.
2:20:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay, you know what I'm saying?
2:20:18
SPEAKER_02: My my environment outside my house was black.
2:20:20
SPEAKER_02: I had most of my friends were black, but my house wasn't black, you know what I'm saying?
2:20:23
SPEAKER_02: But what about it wasn't black to you?
2:20:27
SPEAKER_02: We spoke Spanish.
2:20:28
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, my mom speaks, my mom was born here, but okay, but black, what uh why is why is English black, but Spanish is not?
2:20:37
SPEAKER_02: Why is English black?
2:20:38
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because you're saying that your household wasn't black because you spoke Spanish.
2:20:41
SPEAKER_02: But so you're assuming you're alluding that English is is is black.
2:20:44
SPEAKER_02: Nigga, we you were talking about I'm not even black American.
2:20:49
SPEAKER_02: My parents are from the Caribbean.
2:20:51
SPEAKER_02: Okay, so alright.
2:20:53
SPEAKER_02: So then so then we're black, then we're just as black as each other.
2:20:57
SPEAKER_02: Everybody is just as black as anybody.
2:20:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm talking about like I've had conversations with black people, okay, and they tell me that I'm not black enough to have this conversation.
2:21:07
SPEAKER_02: I think those people are probably ignorant, but I don't know what the conversation was.
2:21:11
SPEAKER_02: What was the conversation about?
2:21:12
SPEAKER_02: Because if it was something specifically about black America, then maybe not.
2:21:15
SPEAKER_02: But if it's just about blackness in general, because you have your language because you were enslaved.
2:21:21
SPEAKER_02: We have English because we're enslaved.
2:21:24
SPEAKER_02: Salsa, which is super Dominican, right?
2:21:26
SPEAKER_02: In your mind?
2:21:27
SPEAKER_02: A chips dip?
2:21:28
SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
2:21:29
SPEAKER_02: The dance.
2:21:30
SPEAKER_02: Uh I didn't pronounce it right, right?
2:21:31
SPEAKER_02: Sai stack.
2:21:32
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh, that's super Dominican to you, correct?
2:21:35
SPEAKER_02: But that's African.
2:21:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:21:36
SPEAKER_02: You see what I'm saying?
2:21:37
SPEAKER_02: So, like, why are you less black?
2:21:39
SPEAKER_02: Funny enough, it's actually Puerto Rican.
2:21:41
SPEAKER_02: But oh, really?
2:21:42
SPEAKER_02: Salsa is Puerto Rican.
2:21:43
SPEAKER_02: We have bachata and merengue.
2:21:45
SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, yeah.
2:21:46
SPEAKER_02: So those dance styles predominantly come from Africa.
2:21:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's like, why would that's a part of your culture?
2:21:52
SPEAKER_02: Why would that make you, you know?
2:21:54
SPEAKER_02: They they separated are, you know, separate.
2:21:58
SPEAKER_02: Powers that be.
2:21:58
SPEAKER_02: I think I think having us confused, and I could go on a whole nother tangent about how this is all biblical.
2:22:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's the Godfrey podcast.
2:22:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
2:22:07
SPEAKER_02: But um having us confused like this is part of the plan.
2:22:12
SPEAKER_02: It's part of the division, it's part of the, oh, you're not black enough, he's black enough, she's not black enough, he's black enough.
2:22:17
SPEAKER_02: If we all were just on the same accord, real shit can get done.
2:22:21
SPEAKER_02: Hey, black man.
2:22:22
SPEAKER_02: What's going on, black man?
2:22:24
SPEAKER_02: What are you doing?
2:22:24
SPEAKER_02: That's it.
2:22:25
SPEAKER_02: Alright.
2:22:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, that's anything else on us Africa you want to talk about real fast?
2:22:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, not really.
2:22:35
SPEAKER_02: What feels good, especially like if you're, you know, darker skin or whatever the case is, is that like everyone's everyone's black.
2:22:43
SPEAKER_02: Everyone's dark.
2:22:45
SPEAKER_02: It's like, I guess it's like it's like how white people felt.
2:22:48
SPEAKER_02: I guess that's what Make America Great Again is for them.
2:22:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:51
SPEAKER_02: It's like they want to restore the feeling.
2:22:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:54
SPEAKER_02: I want to blow up my door, and everybody's white.
2:22:56
SPEAKER_02: When you go over there, that's the feeling.
2:22:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:22:58
SPEAKER_02: It's like you don't even the white person is threatened.
2:23:01
SPEAKER_02: Not not in a bad way, but like they feel out of place.
2:23:04
SPEAKER_02: Out of place in the in there, you know.
2:23:06
SPEAKER_02: And even them, they get respect, you know.
2:23:08
SPEAKER_02: But you know who tell me about that girl, bro.
2:23:12
SPEAKER_02: No, it's not thinking about her.
2:23:15
SPEAKER_02: You know who everywhere I've I've been to a lot of places, you know, where I'll see one thing everywhere?
2:23:19
SPEAKER_02: What?
2:23:20
SPEAKER_02: Asians.
2:23:21
SPEAKER_02: Oh no, they don't play.
2:23:22
SPEAKER_02: They in Africa too, bro.
2:23:24
SPEAKER_02: No, they're in Jamaica.
2:23:25
SPEAKER_02: Businesses, I'm like, yeah, they are not playing.
2:23:28
SPEAKER_02: They don't play.
2:23:29
SPEAKER_02: So and you know it's funny, even in the like they they learn, they they become African.
2:23:34
SPEAKER_02: Oh, and they become Jamaican.
2:23:35
SPEAKER_02: They become Dominican.
2:23:37
SPEAKER_02: It's like they're not othering themselves.
2:23:38
SPEAKER_02: They are, I'm they talk, they don't speak Spanish, they speak Dominican.
2:23:43
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:23:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're not.
2:23:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's funny.
2:23:45
SPEAKER_02: Real quick, my mom had a my mom, I won't say where she works, but she was working somewhere where the person wanted a Dominican.
2:23:53
SPEAKER_02: Mind you, my mom is probably darker than you.
2:23:55
SPEAKER_02: So, like, and she she looks, you know, people assume she's black.
2:23:58
SPEAKER_02: So, like, she's looking for like the lady speaks Spanish, whatever, and my mom in Spanish speaks to her.
2:24:04
SPEAKER_02: But mind you, the other lady that was helping her was speaking Spanish, but Spanish.
2:24:08
SPEAKER_02: Not the Spanish, yeah.
2:24:09
SPEAKER_02: And and and um the lady said, Finally, someone who speaks Dominican.
2:24:13
SPEAKER_02: But she was dead ass.
2:24:14
SPEAKER_02: And my mom was laughing, like, no, who's speaking Spanish?
2:24:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, she's like speaking Dominican.
2:24:19
SPEAKER_02: So I was fine.
2:24:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm a bit fine.
2:24:21
SPEAKER_02: But yeah.
2:24:22
SPEAKER_02: But um, before we get up out of here, I want to uh I gotta do this uh Kaiser Nat thing.
2:24:26
SPEAKER_02: And I again I wish Cash was here for this, right?
2:24:30
SPEAKER_02: Kaisana has been catching a lot of flack lately because he's on this new journey.
2:24:35
SPEAKER_02: He's reading books.
2:24:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't know what to make of it.
2:24:38
SPEAKER_02: He I have an opinion.
2:24:39
SPEAKER_02: You know me, opinion man.
2:24:41
SPEAKER_02: Um he's reading books, he's documented his whole journey.
2:24:45
SPEAKER_02: He's starting a clothing brand called Vivette.
2:24:47
SPEAKER_02: He says that Vivette means like it, she, or them that will never die, or something like that.
2:24:53
SPEAKER_02: Um wait, it means it, she, or them?
2:24:56
SPEAKER_02: That will never die.
2:24:57
SPEAKER_02: Or yeah, or like basically are we going in okay, go ahead.
2:25:00
SPEAKER_02: Basically, his brand, he just wants his brand to last forever.
2:25:03
SPEAKER_02: That's what the name Vivette means.
2:25:05
SPEAKER_02: It means uh something that will never die.
2:25:07
SPEAKER_02: It could be a person, it could be a girl, it could be a group.
2:25:11
SPEAKER_02: They, them, not he got rid of her.
2:25:13
SPEAKER_02: So it's crazy, but yeah, so a lot of people have a lot of opinions on this, and the most popular and plausible thing I've heard is that he knows that there's something coming in terms of sexual assault with his group, and he's rebranding because they said that this kid did the same thing, NLE Chopper.
2:25:38
SPEAKER_02: Like he had like a lot of sexual assault allegations, and then he became like this wholesome, holistic selling like this thing called like BBLT and all kind of weird things to kind of like get the I personally don't know if it's true.
2:25:49
SPEAKER_02: I think that maybe Kai Sonai went through something very traumatic with that girl, and he's a young dude.
2:25:54
SPEAKER_02: I keep forgetting how young these guys are.
2:25:55
SPEAKER_02: That's probably his first real Bro, could you imagine you think he's 24?
2:25:59
SPEAKER_02: Could you imagine being 24 years old thinking the world is your remember how you were at 24?
2:26:04
SPEAKER_02: Now add 200 million dollars in your bank account.
2:26:06
SPEAKER_02: You think you are impervious, and this is now he was popping since 21.
2:26:11
SPEAKER_02: And a girl breaks your heart publicly, you're not in the stream of shit anymore.
2:26:19
SPEAKER_02: Like your heart's not in it.
2:26:21
SPEAKER_02: You're real now, you can start doing your real passions, and he's just trying to better himself.
2:26:26
SPEAKER_02: And I think it's so dope, specifically the reading thing, because I feel like when we were coming up, reading was such a big part of the culture.
2:26:33
SPEAKER_02: You know, you had to read a hundred books, you get the the scholastic book thing.
2:26:37
SPEAKER_02: Do you guys do book reports?
2:26:38
SPEAKER_02: Does your son do do book reports?
2:26:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he does, he does.
2:26:40
SPEAKER_02: But I don't I don't know how what happens after kindergarten.
2:26:44
SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
2:26:44
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:26:45
SPEAKER_02: Because I I don't see I don't see it in the zeitgeist no more.
2:26:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't see people talking about, oh yeah, I read this.
2:26:51
SPEAKER_02: Most people that read nowadays, it's always these kind of like, oh, I read the 40 year laws of power, or I read uh Sun Shu, The Art of War.
2:26:57
SPEAKER_02: It's never like, oh, I read a good story, I enjoyed this.
2:27:01
SPEAKER_02: Yeah now everything, every reading that we do now is about oh, rich dad, poor dad.
2:27:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, how can I be a better specific reading, not I just want to get lost in a story.
2:27:10
SPEAKER_02: Like Harry Potter was a phenomenon.
2:27:14
SPEAKER_02: The movies took it to another level, but before the movies, nigga, the books were everywhere.
2:27:20
SPEAKER_02: You used to see people in public reading them.
2:27:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't see that no more.
2:27:23
SPEAKER_02: People could be reading on their phone, I don't know.
2:27:25
SPEAKER_02: But I do like seeing somebody of his influence, even if he gets three kids to read, I think that's dope.
2:27:33
SPEAKER_02: Especially knowing the literacy rates of black American people, black people in America, America.
2:27:39
SPEAKER_02: We're always behind in these things.
2:27:41
SPEAKER_02: It's not just the black people, it's everybody.
2:27:43
SPEAKER_02: And Kai doesn't just influence black people, he influences everybody.
2:27:46
SPEAKER_02: So that's how I looked at it.
2:27:49
SPEAKER_02: Talk to me.
2:27:51
SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, I I I feel you.
2:27:53
SPEAKER_02: I just don't know what to make of it.
2:27:54
SPEAKER_02: Um I don't know if this will really save him in the terms of sexual assault.
2:28:03
SPEAKER_02: Like, because a lot of the a lot of these sexual assault cases be civil.
2:28:07
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
2:28:08
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:28:08
SPEAKER_02: So like I don't think he's if that's what's in the pipeline.
2:28:13
SPEAKER_02: I don't think he's worried about going to jail.
2:28:15
SPEAKER_02: Nah, but it's about losing all the brand deals and all that shit.
2:28:18
SPEAKER_02: That um I think in the climate we're at today, bro, you could read all the books you want and cut your dreads, whatever you want.
2:28:25
SPEAKER_02: That sexual assault case comes out with enough credence.
2:28:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're fucked.
2:28:29
SPEAKER_02: It's over.
2:28:30
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:28:31
SPEAKER_02: And this is just speculation temporarily.
2:28:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I and uh yes, I'm speculating because I I personally don't believe that that's the case.
2:28:36
SPEAKER_02: I I don't I don't either.
2:28:37
SPEAKER_02: Um the internet's a nasty place, and sometimes the nasty niggas is right, though.
2:28:41
SPEAKER_02: Then again, you saw what just happened to Ty Lil.
2:28:42
SPEAKER_02: Is that and Tyler's part of his group?
2:28:44
SPEAKER_02: And if he didn't have that, if Ty Lil didn't have those receipts, yeah.
2:28:47
SPEAKER_02: Now everybody's so fortunate.
2:28:48
SPEAKER_02: Talk him oh, we spoke about Chris Brown earlier.
2:28:50
SPEAKER_02: You remember his great Oh, yeah, absolutely.
2:28:52
SPEAKER_02: And if he didn't have those text messages after that Rihanna shit, he would have been done.
2:28:57
SPEAKER_02: Dunzo today, we wouldn't there would be no Chris Brown.
2:29:00
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I don't know.
2:29:03
SPEAKER_02: But but again, uh it seems positive, it seems good.
2:29:06
SPEAKER_02: Um I I I've been on his other page because he has like a private page, but he has a private page, and um he seems really enthralled, if that's the right word, in this uh fashion thing.
2:29:18
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean it seems good.
2:29:21
SPEAKER_02: How do you feel about the people that say it's um performative?
2:29:24
SPEAKER_01: Because he's documenting it and putting it out there for content.
2:29:30
SPEAKER_01: He's a performer.
2:29:32
SPEAKER_02: You know, like I mean uh it's just not fair.
2:29:40
SPEAKER_02: It's just not fair.
2:29:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's he's it's performative and he's documenting it, but it's not like heavily produced, it's not on a monetary platform, like it's on Instagram.
2:29:51
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I guess YouTube is monetary, but like if he wanted to get make some money, he could he could go stream, make some money.
2:29:58
SPEAKER_02: Like, this is not I don't think this is like a money play.
2:30:00
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it may be building up to that when he actually releases merchandise, but um, I think he's just of the new generation.
2:30:09
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, this is what they do, they showcase their life and what they're going through, and and he's no different than you going to design school and you posting when what you designed today at school.
2:30:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or you're posting like a new outfit that you sold yourself, like he's constantly.
2:30:24
SPEAKER_02: It's just that he's constant on.
2:30:25
SPEAKER_02: So it's like, are they gonna call you a performative, you know?
2:30:27
SPEAKER_02: But my problem with that and my counter to that is okay, it's performative.
2:30:32
SPEAKER_02: So what?
2:30:32
SPEAKER_02: It's positive.
2:30:33
SPEAKER_01: That too.
2:30:34
SPEAKER_02: If he when he did that fucking skit about uh niggas being in jail and making light of that, I didn't like that.
2:30:39
SPEAKER_02: But niggas is tuned in because it's content.
2:30:42
SPEAKER_02: Right?
2:30:42
SPEAKER_02: Why is only the positive content performative?
2:30:45
SPEAKER_02: All of it is performative.
2:30:46
SPEAKER_02: So what?
2:30:46
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I said, if he gets a new generation of kids into reading and the literacy rates go up, even by 1%, that's good use of his power.
2:30:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we get I had to tell my son to stop saying 6'7 because that's all these little niggas, it's because they seen it on something, you know what I'm saying?
2:31:01
SPEAKER_02: So it's like I I'm all for it, man.
2:31:04
SPEAKER_02: Shout out Kaiser and I, you know, he's a whole, yeah.
2:31:06
SPEAKER_02: If you're perfor if yeah, you're right.
2:31:08
SPEAKER_02: Fuck it if it's performative.
2:31:09
SPEAKER_02: Like, if it's positive, then that's what we should be performing.
2:31:11
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
2:31:12
SPEAKER_02: There's enough negative performing.
2:31:13
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
2:31:14
SPEAKER_02: You know what I'm saying?
2:31:14
SPEAKER_02: So it's like we just spoke about Zeus last week and uh last week, last part of about, and I said how Zeus is such so bad, but it's so entertaining.
2:31:22
SPEAKER_02: We shouldn't normalize making this entertainment.
2:31:24
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, why can't both things be entertaining?
2:31:26
SPEAKER_02: Why not normalize someone showcasing them chase their dreams entertaining?
2:31:31
SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
2:31:32
SPEAKER_02: And I think Doce like uh reached out to him.
2:31:34
SPEAKER_02: I know her name is like shit on the internet because everybody it's it's it's cool to hate on Doce, but uh she like recommended some books to him too, like that changed her life.
2:31:44
SPEAKER_02: And I think that shit is dope.
2:31:46
SPEAKER_02: You know why they hate her?
2:31:47
SPEAKER_02: I think they think she's an industry plant.
2:31:49
SPEAKER_02: That yeah, she just up the song addressing that.
2:31:52
SPEAKER_02: Um, I get it.
2:31:53
SPEAKER_02: She's plant-ish, but I don't think she is.
2:31:57
SPEAKER_02: But she's plant-ish.
2:31:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she's with a uh a machine.
2:32:00
SPEAKER_02: And and she did she was she had like a who's another she had a she had a industry plant trajectory.
2:32:08
SPEAKER_02: Okay, but I don't think she's an industry plant.
2:32:10
SPEAKER_02: I don't think she's a plant either, but I'm open to just like everything else.
2:32:14
SPEAKER_02: If information comes out that changes my perspective, I will.
2:32:16
SPEAKER_02: Same thing with the Meg and Tory thing.
2:32:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm team Meg right now.
2:32:20
SPEAKER_02: I got no more drink, so I think that means it's time.
2:32:22
SPEAKER_02: Part is over.
2:32:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think that means it's time.
2:32:24
SPEAKER_02: Um good pod, my bro.
2:32:26
SPEAKER_02: Charlie, take us out.
2:32:28
SPEAKER_02: Um, gotta do the your best cash impersonation.
2:32:31
SPEAKER_02: I know.
2:32:31
SPEAKER_02: Let them know we can find us.
2:32:32
SPEAKER_02: Let me do cash real quick.
2:32:36
SPEAKER_02: So, guys, so thank you for tuning in.
2:32:38
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2:32:56
SPEAKER_02: And yeah, thank you.
2:32:57
SPEAKER_02: Um, this is the part where um you say AG take us out, and then I say, Can I get a perfect?
2:33:03
SPEAKER_02: And then you say perfect.
2:33:05
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
2:33:07
SPEAKER_02: A G, so with that being said.
2:33:09
SPEAKER_02: Can I get a perfect?
2:33:10
SPEAKER_02: Perfect.
2:33:11
SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
2:33:18
unknown: I like that.
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SPEAKER_02: Cut the feed, cut the feed.