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- 0:06Speaker 2: Bill Handle here on a Monday morning, February. The second
- 0:11Speaker 2: couple things before we dive into the question, is Nil
- 0:16Speaker 2: Savedra in that pile of documents that was released by
- 0:21Speaker 2: the by the Justice Department. Probably not, but it's a
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- 1:20Speaker 2: Now, three million documents have been released by the Justice Department.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I mean, that's a lot of documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein,
- 1:32Speaker 2: and foreign dignitories and tech titans and politicians and all
- 1:38Speaker 2: kinds of very powerful men make appearances in this trove,
- 1:44Speaker 2: and all of them have denied doing anything with his
- 1:46Speaker 2: sexual abuse of girls and young women. Now Here is
- 1:51Speaker 2: the problem with some of them. Some of them say
- 1:54Speaker 2: that their friendship with Epstein, and Epstein was friends with
- 1:57Speaker 2: everybody or even developed friendships. They have maintained that it
- 2:04Speaker 2: was all done before two thousand and six, when publicly
- 2:09Speaker 2: Epstein was well rat it out, if you will, for
- 2:15Speaker 2: having sex with underage girls. And so there's pre two
- 2:20Speaker 2: thousand and six and post two thousand and six, and
- 2:24Speaker 2: there is the line post two thousand and six.
- 2:27Speaker 1: It has problematic.
- 2:30Speaker 2: Certainly post twenty nineteen gets really problematic, because that's when
- 2:34Speaker 2: Epstein went to jail for a year. Sarah Ferguson, for example,
- 2:38Speaker 2: who was the wife of Prince Andrew. She is in
- 2:45Speaker 2: the emails, and she was broke, asked him to pay
- 2:49Speaker 2: some bills that's Epstein and asked for advice before going
- 2:53Speaker 2: on the Oprah Show. On top of that, Prince Andrew,
- 3:00Speaker 2: he seems to be sort of the poster child of
- 3:05Speaker 2: the personalities that were involved in Epstein. He's going to
- 3:09Speaker 2: have the hardest time denying that. I mean, there was
- 3:12Speaker 2: an interview that he did I think was at sixty
- 3:14Speaker 2: minutes and he straight out denied it. I've never met
- 3:18Speaker 2: this woman. I don't know who she is. And of
- 3:19Speaker 2: course that infamous photo and this we're talking about.
- 3:24Speaker 1: Guthrie, the young lady who.
- 3:26Speaker 2: Wrote the book, committed suicide and was trafficked by Epstein.
- 3:31Speaker 2: There's a picture of Andrew holding her his arm around
- 3:34Speaker 2: her waist. Everybody is smiling. And I don't think anybody
- 3:38Speaker 2: who disbelieves that Epstein is so involved in all of
- 3:43Speaker 2: this that the King, King Charles has basically booted Andrew.
- 3:51Speaker 1: No longer royal title.
- 3:53Speaker 2: He can't be called he cannot be called a prince anymore.
- 3:57Speaker 2: He is now Andrew Booby to his friends and family,
- 4:03Speaker 2: no longer has title. Got kicked out of that house.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Did you see that house? He was on sixty rooms
- 4:10Speaker 2: paid for by the government staff like crazy hot and
- 4:15Speaker 2: cold running valets and maids and cooks and all of that.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Tell you who else is involved in all of this?
- 4:24Speaker 2: Not involved in any of the sexual escapades, I think
- 4:28Speaker 2: the only and by the way, even Andrew was not charged.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Nobody was charged.
- 4:35Speaker 2: And does that mean that the government, the DOJ has
- 4:38Speaker 2: simply ignored that and swept it under the wrong.
- 4:41Speaker 1: No.
- 4:42Speaker 2: I don't think so, because this was during Biden where
- 4:45Speaker 2: this information came out. It was during Obama where this
- 4:50Speaker 2: information was public. No one has been charged. But I'll
- 4:55Speaker 2: tell you who is part of that group. And these
- 4:59Speaker 2: are just famous ones. Keep in mind, there were hundreds
- 5:02Speaker 2: of people that these files, the Epstein files talk about
- 5:08Speaker 2: and relate to, And of all these hundreds, I think
- 5:12Speaker 2: the only one close to criminality, as I said, is
- 5:15Speaker 2: the former Prince Andrew, who is the brother of Charles who.
- 5:20Speaker 2: By the way, did you know that Prince Andrew is
- 5:22Speaker 2: a legitimate war hero. During the Falkland Wars, he flew
- 5:27Speaker 2: a rescue helicopter in combat I mean being shot at
- 5:34Speaker 2: because he was in the Royal Navy or the Royal
- 5:37Speaker 2: Air Force at the time, and so he took quite
- 5:39Speaker 2: a spill, to say the least in terms of a reputation,
- 5:43Speaker 2: and so the issue here is the names that came
- 5:47Speaker 2: out of those of the Epstein files, and part of
- 5:51Speaker 2: the issue are dates. Two thousand and six is a
- 5:54Speaker 2: very big date because that's when the investigation started about
- 5:58Speaker 2: Epstein and his assaults, rapes, trafficking of minors. Twenty nineteen
- 6:06Speaker 2: he went to prison for a year, So it's post
- 6:08Speaker 2: twenty nineteen. Pre twenty nineteen really is the magical dates.
- 6:14Speaker 2: So what you have is these huge names, all of
- 6:16Speaker 2: them denying that it was any wrongdoing, and there's no
- 6:20Speaker 2: proof that there was.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Nobody has been charged.
- 6:23Speaker 2: But in the case, the most interesting one, of course
- 6:26Speaker 2: is Donald Trump. He was mentioned more than one thousand times.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Now he's the biggest player, and this guy is the president,
- 6:34Speaker 2: so you would imagine he would be and he did
- 6:38Speaker 2: have a relationship with Donald Trump, I mean with Epstein,
- 6:42Speaker 2: but it doesn't seem to be anything even approaching the womanizing.
- 6:47Speaker 2: We saw video of Trump and Epstein with a bunch
- 6:51Speaker 2: of women, but that's how many videos do you have?
- 6:53Speaker 2: How many pictures you have with Donald Trump involved with
- 6:57Speaker 2: taking pictures with women? I mean, everybody who's a womanizer,
- 7:01Speaker 2: never a youngster, never anybody as a minor.
- 7:06Speaker 1: So let me go through some names that are part
- 7:11Speaker 1: of these files.
- 7:12Speaker 2: How about a guy named Elon Musk who shows up
- 7:16Speaker 2: at least a few times email exchanges between twenty twelve
- 7:20Speaker 2: and twenty thirteen. Again, this is before twenty nineteen when
- 7:24Speaker 2: Epstein went to prison. And I don't even know if
- 7:27Speaker 2: that first investigation was public. Certainly the criminal complaint was,
- 7:33Speaker 2: and certainly him going to jail. Who was a plea
- 7:36Speaker 2: bargain in which Epstein got away. He got a slap
- 7:38Speaker 2: on the wrist effectively. So Epstein and Muska discuss visiting
- 7:45Speaker 2: Epstein's Caribbean island compound.
- 7:48Speaker 1: Not clear if the visits took place.
- 7:51Speaker 2: Musk has maintained he repeatedly turned down Epstein's overtures, his invitations,
- 7:58Speaker 2: and posted in twenty twenty five Epstein tried to get
- 8:01Speaker 2: me to his island.
- 8:01Speaker 1: I refused.
- 8:02Speaker 2: Richard Branson a lot of emails Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Record,
- 8:08Speaker 2: that's Branson. In a twenty thirteen exchange, Branson invites Epstein
- 8:12Speaker 2: to his Caribbean island and I think it's Necker Island
- 8:17Speaker 2: and hosts conferences and it's just a private.
- 8:21Speaker 1: Island owned by somebody in this case.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Branson in another message, this is must suggesting that Epstein
- 8:30Speaker 2: rehabilitate his image by convincing Bill Gates to tell the
- 8:35Speaker 2: public how Epstein had been a brilliant advisor to him.
- 8:38Speaker 2: Gates and had more than learnt your lesson regarding Epstein
- 8:43Speaker 2: and has done nothing against the law. Since that is problematic.
- 8:46Speaker 2: But again this is just Branson noting this that he
- 8:51Speaker 2: was in trouble, Epstein was in trouble, and say here's
- 8:54Speaker 2: what you can do again, any allegation wrongdoing? No Donald
- 8:59Speaker 2: Trump over thousand we talked about that and a lot
- 9:02Speaker 2: of uncorroborated stories.
- 9:04Speaker 1: The Department of Justice.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Man, did they come out and come up with the
- 9:07Speaker 2: stories that the FBI were told the tips and said,
- 9:10Speaker 2: this absolutely is these are uncorroborated at all. Bill Clinton
- 9:17Speaker 2: occasionally flying on Epstein's private jet, having Epstein visit him
- 9:23Speaker 2: at the White House. Clinton denies any knowledge of Epstein's wrongdoing,
- 9:28Speaker 2: and Clinton's President of Clinton's representatives say that the former
- 9:33Speaker 2: president broke off all relations with Epstein during the first
- 9:37Speaker 2: round of criminal charges in twenty two thousand and six,
- 9:41Speaker 2: and the file includes photos of Clinton other famous people
- 9:45Speaker 2: that Epstein kept in his home in New York. Messages
- 9:49Speaker 2: investigators received from members of the general public demanding to
- 9:53Speaker 2: know why Clinton wasn't being investigated. Stephen Tish, New York
- 9:58Speaker 2: Giants co owner, meant more than two hundred times. In
- 10:03Speaker 2: one exchange in twenty thirteen. The subject line is Ukrainian girl,
- 10:08Speaker 2: and Epstein encourages Tish to contact a particularly woman pro
- 10:12Speaker 2: or civilian. Tish asks. Tish, by the way, is the
- 10:18Speaker 2: inheritor of the Loews Corporation. He is a beneficiary. Casey
- 10:24Speaker 2: Wasserman is one and he was the president. He is
- 10:28Speaker 2: the president of the committee for the twenty twenty eight
- 10:30Speaker 2: Summer Olympics. Emails with Epstein and Julaane Maxwell, who we know.
- 10:38Speaker 2: I think the most interesting one is Howard Lutnik, who
- 10:44Speaker 2: is now the Commerce Secretary, visited Epstein's private island with
- 10:50Speaker 2: his family at least once. And here's what he said
- 10:56Speaker 2: prior to these emails going out. He said that he
- 11:03Speaker 2: cut ties with Epstein decades ago, and he called him gross.
- 11:09Speaker 2: The problem is is that there are emails after that
- 11:14Speaker 2: that clearly show.
- 11:17Speaker 1: That Lutnick and Epstein continued.
- 11:20Speaker 2: An email relationship, and the Commerce Department comes back, doesn't refute.
- 11:25Speaker 2: It simply says Lutnick had limited interactions with Epstein and
- 11:30Speaker 2: the presence of his wife and has never been accused
- 11:32Speaker 2: of any wrongdoing.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Completely deflects.
- 11:37Speaker 2: The issue of the timing of the timing of the email.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Sergey Brinn, billionaire co founder of Google. Steve Bannon, who
- 11:47Speaker 2: we know. So the list goes on. These are just
- 11:51Speaker 2: a smattering of the big time names. And again there
- 11:56Speaker 2: is I want to point this out, especially in the
- 11:59Speaker 2: case of Donald Trump, there is no allegation of any wrongdoing.
- 12:03Speaker 2: There are no photos like Andrew. They have one of
- 12:07Speaker 2: Andrew just came out and he's there's a gall on
- 12:09Speaker 2: the floor and he is over her and it is
- 12:12Speaker 2: just I mean, yeah, and they have the clothes on
- 12:15Speaker 2: and everything, but it's just absolutely disgusting. As far as Andrew,
- 12:20Speaker 2: do you have any doubt that Andrew knew these underage girls.
- 12:22Speaker 2: I think he specifically asked for underage girls. So he
- 12:27Speaker 2: is done. So it's no longer Prince Andrew. I still
- 12:32Speaker 2: think he gets a house that Charles gives him as
- 12:36Speaker 2: opposed to being kicked out. He got kicked out of
- 12:37Speaker 2: the big one with sixty rooms, and now he has
- 12:41Speaker 2: a smaller home. But I still think he has staff.
- 12:44Speaker 2: I still think he's being treated like a prince.
- 12:48Speaker 1: All Right.
- 12:50Speaker 2: The race for governor is coming up, and for the
- 12:53Speaker 2: first time in twenty five years, we don't have a
- 12:57Speaker 2: charismatic character candidate that's breaking out, no clear front runner,
- 13:02Speaker 2: and keep in mind we're five months before the June
- 13:06Speaker 2: primary election. Dan Schnorr, a political communications professor who looks
- 13:10Speaker 2: at this, says, this is.
- 13:12Speaker 1: The most wide open governor's.
- 13:13Speaker 2: Race we've seen in California in more than a quarter
- 13:16Speaker 2: of a century, and no precedent in the modern political
- 13:20Speaker 2: area here in California for a campaign that is this crowded.
- 13:25Speaker 2: Why well, voters are undecided or they're coalescing behind a
- 13:30Speaker 2: bunch of different prominent candidates, and so no candidate has
- 13:34Speaker 2: a really huge front runner status. Katie Porter, former representative,
- 13:40Speaker 2: leads the pack with twenty one percent of respondents. Okay,
- 13:44Speaker 2: Former US Health and Human Services sucre Harry Javier Besserra.
- 13:49Speaker 1: I know him, we do. It's a big name. Former
- 13:52Speaker 1: news commentator Steve Hilton, who was on Fox. No idea
- 13:56Speaker 1: who he is? He has fourteen percent. Riverside County Sheriff.
- 13:59Speaker 2: Chess Bianco yeah, I know who he is, but I
- 14:03Speaker 2: don't know anything about him. The point is there is
- 14:07Speaker 2: nobody there. We've had big name personalities Arnold Schwarzenegger, eBay billionaire,
- 14:14Speaker 2: Meg Whitman who ran and lost, Jerry Brown who ran
- 14:19Speaker 2: and won. He's a son of Governor Pat Brown. Gavin Newsom,
- 14:23Speaker 2: of course, huge name. He vaulted into the national spotlight.
- 14:28Speaker 2: Actually he's become I would even argue the front runner
- 14:31Speaker 2: on the Democratic side right now for the presidential run.
- 14:35Speaker 2: He won big time in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two,
- 14:39Speaker 2: and there was a recall at him that he wiped out,
- 14:42Speaker 2: and so he's got some creds in terms of voter backing.
- 14:47Speaker 2: And so Porter said, Look, we've had celebrity governors. We've
- 14:51Speaker 2: had governors who are kids of other governors. We've had
- 14:54Speaker 2: governors who look hot with slick back hair and barn jackets.
- 14:58Speaker 2: What the hell's a barn jacket? I have absolutely no idea,
- 15:04Speaker 2: and certainly Newsome wears them.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I guess in California right.
- 15:11Speaker 2: Now is the center of a lot of stuff coming
- 15:14Speaker 2: out of the Trump administration, the detention and deportation of
- 15:20Speaker 2: illegal migrants. That's overshadowed the gubernatarian race. We had the
- 15:26Speaker 2: wildfires and again the immigration raids. We've got that battle
- 15:32Speaker 2: about redrawing congressional districts. On top of that, names that
- 15:38Speaker 2: would instantly get major, major recognition just said no. Kamala Harris,
- 15:45Speaker 2: Now I'm not going to run. Alex Padillo. Senator Alex
- 15:48Speaker 2: Paddeo said no, I'm not running. Attorney General Rob Bonta,
- 15:53Speaker 2: who has sued the Trump administration more than any other
- 15:56Speaker 2: attorney general in the country.
- 15:58Speaker 1: He said no.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Rick caruse So, who ran for mayor, very well known,
- 16:02Speaker 2: he said no. So the critical question is who the
- 16:08Speaker 2: donors are going to decide to back, because California is
- 16:13Speaker 2: not only the most populous state in the United States,
- 16:17Speaker 2: and the economy you've heard many times, were the fifth
- 16:20Speaker 2: largest economy on the planet relative to countries. Only four
- 16:27Speaker 2: countries have bigger economies than ours, and there are forty
- 16:30Speaker 2: million people, and it gets really expensive to run for
- 16:37Speaker 2: governor or any statewide ballot measure. And so either people
- 16:42Speaker 2: have to be billionaires and use their own money Rick Caruso,
- 16:45Speaker 2: Meg Whitman, or have incredible name recognition and a donor base.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Because they're going to need well hundreds of millions of
- 16:54Speaker 2: dollars to run for governor, and so the donors have
- 16:58Speaker 2: to be contacted, and there is front runner. There is
- 17:01Speaker 2: nobody out there at this point. So you got the
- 17:05Speaker 2: Democratic and Republican conventions approaching Republicans no one's paying attention
- 17:10Speaker 2: to because it won't be a Republican. But it's unlikely
- 17:15Speaker 2: that a Democrat is going to be able to get
- 17:18Speaker 2: the nod at the convention at this point because so
- 17:21Speaker 2: many candidates are in there now. The other thing that's
- 17:24Speaker 2: happening is, here's what the party does. There are some
- 17:27Speaker 2: Democratic candidates who don't have much money, little name identification,
- 17:33Speaker 2: and they're gonna be pressure to drop out, saying here,
- 17:35Speaker 2: whatever donor base you have, move it over to this candidate,
- 17:41Speaker 2: and also your endorsement. Not that it's going to do anything.
- 17:44Speaker 2: It's going to be an interesting race, to say the least.
- 17:48Speaker 2: And is Gavin Newsom going to be the kingmaker here
- 17:51Speaker 2: who he endorses?
- 17:54Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 17:54Speaker 2: People are split pretty widely in terms of looking at
- 17:59Speaker 2: Gavin U. I'll tell you where everybody, every single person
- 18:03Speaker 2: agrees is he's got great hair and he slicks it down.
- 18:09Speaker 2: Have you noticed that does he use bear grease to
- 18:13Speaker 2: slick down his hair? And I don't know the answer
- 18:17Speaker 2: to that. Looks like it doesn't it.
- 18:21Speaker 1: I think it's the same slobber that comes out of
- 18:23Speaker 1: his mouth when he talks that comes up and over right,
- 18:27Speaker 1: what's bear grease? You know?
- 18:29Speaker 2: It's grease from bear. It's you cook bear up and
- 18:35Speaker 2: the grease that comes out, it's like bear fat. It's
- 18:39Speaker 2: like chicken fat. Instead you use bear fat. It's like schmaltz.
- 18:44Speaker 2: You can look that up. Okay, Okay, look up Schmaltz.
- 18:48Speaker 1: No, no, I'm looking up bear grease. Oh yeah, I
- 18:52Speaker 1: think Schmaltz is much better. Okay.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Moving on to teenage boys gambling, and this has become
- 18:58Speaker 2: a big, big deal. There's new research from common Sense
- 19:03Speaker 2: Media nonprofit and that finds that gambling is a lot
- 19:07Speaker 2: more common among adolescent boys than their parents realize. And
- 19:11Speaker 2: how do they get into it Video games that's the
- 19:14Speaker 2: most frequent way. In more than one in three boys
- 19:18Speaker 2: from eleven to seventeen say they have gambled in the
- 19:22Speaker 2: last year. This is a survey of more than one
- 19:25Speaker 2: thousand boys across the US, and a lot of these
- 19:29Speaker 2: boys encounter gambling like mechanics before they ever place a bet,
- 19:35Speaker 2: a traditional bet.
- 19:37Speaker 1: And here's the scary part.
- 19:39Speaker 2: It is they don't gamble with money per se, although
- 19:44Speaker 2: quickly moving into that and the games.
- 19:47Speaker 1: Some of the games you.
- 19:48Speaker 2: Do pay money for additional characters, but you're not gambling.
- 19:53Speaker 1: Except what the study says is that this is a.
- 19:56Speaker 2: Gateway to gambling, and it's a real game way, unlike
- 20:00Speaker 2: marijuana that was always deemed a gateway to hard drugs.
- 20:06Speaker 2: I remember my dad when he caught me smoking when
- 20:11Speaker 2: I was a teenager, and he literally thought, as I
- 20:14Speaker 2: put the joint down, I pick up a syringe full
- 20:17Speaker 2: of heroin and injected directly into my eyeballs. It can
- 20:21Speaker 2: do cocaine before or after you did pop? Oh way after.
- 20:25Speaker 2: I didn't start doing cocaine. No, you know what was
- 20:29Speaker 2: the gateway drug? The bar exam was my gateway drug,
- 20:34Speaker 2: taking the bar because I was working full time taking
- 20:38Speaker 2: the Bar review course, and it was so I had
- 20:42Speaker 2: to stay awake because I was up for twenty hours
- 20:44Speaker 2: a day.
- 20:45Speaker 1: But anyway, different story.
- 20:46Speaker 2: In any case, this gambling business is really problematic in
- 20:51Speaker 2: this story. This study shows early exposure kids are sensitive
- 20:58Speaker 2: to rewards, risk taking, peers, influence.
- 21:00Speaker 1: That's what these games are about.
- 21:02Speaker 2: And even though no money per se changes hands, what
- 21:05Speaker 2: this is is a precursor.
- 21:08Speaker 1: It teaches the boys.
- 21:10Speaker 2: How to gamble without gambling, and so the move into gambling,
- 21:15Speaker 2: the move into spending money is a very easy.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Shot, and boy, the numbers prove it out one.
- 21:26Speaker 2: So most by the time they're actually gambling gambling have
- 21:31Speaker 2: already spent real money because the systems don't look like
- 21:36Speaker 2: gambling to the kids. But they rely That's how sophisticated
- 21:40Speaker 2: it is. They rely on the same psychological hooks, chance, anticipation,
- 21:46Speaker 2: and reward. These are not just games that are thrown
- 21:49Speaker 2: up there. People who develop these big games are in
- 21:53Speaker 2: fact very cognizant of what they're doing. And again the
- 22:00Speaker 2: boys are saying, now, the ads don't push them to
- 22:04Speaker 2: gamble because a lot of ads on top of.
- 22:07Speaker 1: What they're looking at.
- 22:08Speaker 2: I mean, you have ads from sports betting and video
- 22:12Speaker 2: game gambling and online gambling and casino games.
- 22:16Speaker 1: These are casino games.
- 22:17Speaker 2: These are just thrown at you peer to peer, and
- 22:20Speaker 2: traditional games are there. I mean, fan duel, DraftKings, bet
- 22:25Speaker 2: MGM are used constantly and it's interspersed and they're designed
- 22:32Speaker 2: to get guys kids gambling, and parents don't really realize
- 22:36Speaker 2: it because it becomes a slippery slope.
- 22:38Speaker 1: Oh, it's just a game.
- 22:41Speaker 2: My daughter plays these games and she buys characters to
- 22:47Speaker 2: dive deeper into the games. And when I go, why
- 22:52Speaker 2: would you do that? It's just a game. Oh no,
- 22:53Speaker 2: I can play it more in a more sophisticated way.
- 22:56Speaker 2: I can play it longer, I have more avenues, they
- 23:00Speaker 2: have different ways of doing it. Dad, can I use
- 23:03Speaker 2: your credit card? So I am not overly thrilled with
- 23:07Speaker 2: those games. I see these credit card bills now, the
- 23:10Speaker 2: average adolescent it's only fifty four dollars a year is
- 23:14Speaker 2: what they spend, which is still real money, but you
- 23:17Speaker 2: add that up, it becomes real money. And it's these
- 23:22Speaker 2: games are designed to get young kids or young adolescent boys,
- 23:27Speaker 2: particularly into the gaming world, and they're just starting to
- 23:31Speaker 2: realize how crappy that is. And again, that's the Internet
- 23:36Speaker 2: on the other side, that's the evil part of the Internet.
- 23:40Speaker 2: The Internet is the greatest thing that ever happened in mankind.
- 23:43Speaker 2: It's going to go down as literally one of the
- 23:46Speaker 2: greatest influence that humanity has ever had. Fire is one
- 23:52Speaker 2: the wheel is another computers, and I think the Internet
- 23:58Speaker 2: and computers are going to be combined historically. But can
- 24:02Speaker 2: you imagine that's the importance of this stuff. And then
- 24:05Speaker 2: you have the negative. You have the body shaming where
- 24:07Speaker 2: people kill themselves. You have AI where we don't know
- 24:10Speaker 2: what the truth is anymore. On the Internet, we have
- 24:14Speaker 2: conspiracy theorists. I've said many times it used to be
- 24:17Speaker 2: the only way you ever listened to a conspiracy theorist
- 24:21Speaker 2: is outside of your office building, some guy with a
- 24:24Speaker 2: bullhorn screaming on the corner. That was your conspiracy theorists.
- 24:29Speaker 2: Today you just describe John Cobel you are a rude bastard.
- 24:35Speaker 1: That's so true, well said.
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