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I LIKE HAVING MY STAMINA! Post-Patch Highs and Lows, Lore & More · Dadlock — A Deadlock Podcast for the Rest of Us

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  My name is MC Cringe, and I'm here to say I like
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  deadlock in a very fun way. I wanna play Sinclair.
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  I wanna win some hair because I'm bald. I don't
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  get calls. No one like to talk to me. Everyone
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  says deadlock. Help him, he's having a stroke.
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  Somebody get the doctor. Is there a doctor here?
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  Nurse Harrow, get in here. He's possessed. He's
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  got a he's had a diarrhea fever dream I buy disarming
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  hex and you know, I'm gonna get some sex and
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  then I'm gonna go to the store to get some more
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  of What I'm looking for It's infectious Omni
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  star and I'm joined by Your favorite guy yarn
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  yarn and Yeah, it's time to talk about deadlock
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  again a lot of a lot of things have all happened
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  and time has elapsed and we have feelings and
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  thoughts so let's get in the van kids it is October
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  28th 2026 and I am that much closer to meeting
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  the end as are we all I'm dead locking. I'm locking
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  and deading. I'm I'm feeling and entering into
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  a liminal space where I am becoming friends with
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  doorman I'm in the Baroness. Please help send
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  help. How are you send? I'm great Yeah, man Things
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  are good deadlock is Feeling nice I think it's
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  a good update. I like it It's grown on me. I'm
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  not as annoyed by the things like Solomon's visual
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  clutter stuff because I feel like at the end
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  of the day, it lives where it lives on the map.
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  It's not like it's chasing you everywhere and
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  I can walk away from it. It's not hitting me
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  as hard as originally. I think with the visual
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  change to the map, plus all these characters
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  that were very visually noisy, it was a lot.
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  But now I'm feeling a little bit. There are moments
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  where it's like, depending on the characters
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  that are you're against, they can get like a
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  little bit like, Oh, what's happening on my screen?
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  But that's just what this game is. At the end,
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  the last 10 minutes of every deadlock game is
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  what's happening on my screen. Yeah, sure. But
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  I think it was good. I've definitely gotten more
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  comfortable with the map with the characters
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  abilities. I'm enjoying. I'm just enjoying how
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  much stuff was added. Like, I do think that it
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  takes a bit to integrate. these things into how
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  you play and them adding all of it in at the
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  same time is a massive like, dude, my brain can
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  only take like Titanic. You know, when the Titanic
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  has to like try to miss the iceberg. That's how
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  fast my brain can turn. It just needs to go very
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  slow. And this was more like trying to get the
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  Titanic to do a U -turn in fucking two seconds.
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  So it's like new map. I am, I think, still learning
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  like hidey holes, still learning everywhere that
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  the baffles the little health health upgrades
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  or whatever like basically health packs. I'm
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  still learning where that stuff is. But with
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  the addition of all the characters, I am feeling
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  like the game feels more objective based than
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  ever. Does that make sense? Yeah, I can see that.
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  Yeah, because I feel like it it's still important
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  for me to go get kills. It's still important
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  for me to fight with my team at times depending
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  on character. But more than ever, I feel like
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  if you show up to the mid boss, if you show up
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  to the earned deposit, if you show up to the
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  rift, I feel like your team just starts doing
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  well. You know what I mean? Especially if you're
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  ahead and you show up to the rift early and secure
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  that like wave forward. It feels like a lot of
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  the new characters and just the game in general.
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  I don't know what's going on exactly with the
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  I think maybe spirit burst seems kind of like
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  high up in the meta. Yeah, it feels like if you
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  get there early and secure that space and throw
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  a fucking, you know, one of the three or four
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  different like AOE ultimates, you're good. You
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  know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, that is yes,
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  I agree with you on the map stuff that you also
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  mentioned the one thing that I do have a problem
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  with right now, which is just that like there's
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  spirit burst and like, you know, by the way,
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  it's obviously so old hat that it's like come
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  back around to like all the main people are talking
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  about it. We talked about it last week of like
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  the AOE slop, you know, as they call it or whatever.
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  I you know, it is a thing where you're just like
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  it's not getting better and it's definitely getting
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  worse. It's not it's not always a problem because
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  it depends on who's on the team. But like I'm
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  getting tired of just being like fights becoming
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  like throw all your you know, it's like the the
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  Moon Knight meme of random bullshit go like just
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  throw everything out. And and then having to
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  parse like all these things in a billion status
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  effects. And one of the problems that I have
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  with the game in terms of how it communicates
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  things, it comes into play with all the A .O
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  .E. slop conversation, which is a lot of these
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  moves have very specific, you know, they go,
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  oh, they'll slow you, they'll root you, they'll
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  fear you, whatever. But the name of the status
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  effect they give you is like it's all different.
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  And then it's like the text on the bottom right
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  hand corner. And yes, when you get stunned, it's
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  very obvious that you're stunned. Right. You
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  get the little thing above your head. But like
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  the there's some of these other things where
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  it's like, there's this like meter that you're
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  like, oh, I have to like, if it's just nurse
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  Harrow ulting me, I can see the avert your eyes
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  thing going up. I know that nurse Harrow is ulting
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  me. If like two other people start ulting, even
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  on my team or someone else. And then I have multiple
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  status effects going on all at once. I'm kind
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  of like, what is like, there's too much layers
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  of even knowing what to do. And to be fair, I
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  just might be locked in that situation. But there
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  is a part of me that's like, how do I I want
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  to parse all this in a way to know exactly what
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  Maybe I have a dispel magic or I can get behind
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  a wall and like I want to know exactly what's
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  affecting me and not be lost and just, you know,
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  like Willem Dafoe looking up at the sky being
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  like, yeah, I mean, dude, that's like every game
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  now. I know. And there's a queen hitting you
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  and there's a pigeon fucking hitting you or you're
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  turning into a pigeon. And yeah, I think that
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  one of the things that kills me about this update
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  is that it's just been generally negative for
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  my main pocket. I feel like he affects everyone
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  less and he gets out less often, right? Because
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  there's just I think there's a few more silences
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  and CCs that have been added. So it's just a
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  lot of like, oh, you were gonna teleport over
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  there. Sorry. Oh, you were gonna you were gonna
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  live in this moment because you're fucking paper.
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  Sorry, you did. I wanted to bring up the win
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  rates right now because I do think that it's
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  kind of enlightening. Do tell. So I caveat obviously
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  some of these characters are high up in the win
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  rates across all ranks because they're easy to
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  play right the every character I'm about to say
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  is very easy to play right 56 % win rate Baba
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  right this is across all ranks right and this
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  is in ranked I should say standard is similar
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  but different 55 % win rate graves that's an
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  obvious right 54 % win rate, Rat King. And I
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  kind of wonder, do you think a 56 % win rate
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  on Baba is problematic, or is that like, not
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  too high? That seems high. It's good, I mean,
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  it's a good win rate, but it's not so high that
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  I'm like, something needs to be fixed now. I
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  do think that she's arguably a character that
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  needs to get the most amount of tuning out of
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  all the new characters, but like you can see
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  her. It's also like wind rate is one element
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  of like the whole puzzle, because like a lot
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  of people talk about Deadman Danny being broken.
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  But like both of them work in. I would argue
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  that the reason why her wind rate is higher than
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  his is because she has more flexibility and adaptability
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  in her kit of like big AOE attacks. Like, you
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  know, strong. You know, it's like very rare that
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  you get a team that has no spirit on the enemy
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  team. So it's like she's going to have a strong
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  cue and all that or one or whatever. And so,
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  like, yeah, I'm not I don't think that's so high.
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  I do think that they're probably going to revisit
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  what she does and some of the stuff. But I wonder.
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  I mean, the new like the new ranked season is
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  coming out in the first week of November, I think,
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  like November 10th or something like that, if
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  I remember correctly. And I have to imagine they're
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  probably going to do some more bouncing stuff
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  between now and then because like there is some
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  very clear trends that have just occurred in
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  like the games and what's strong and who people
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  are playing. And like there's a lot of characters
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  that also are just like. totally tossed by the
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  wayside completely, right? So I don't know. I'm
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  not, I don't have a problem with that. Who are
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  you thinking about for characters tossed to the
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  wayside? I mean, there's like a lot of different
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  characters that you don't see a whole lot anymore.
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  Like last week I talked about Grey Talon, like
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  being someone who you don't really see that as
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  much anymore. Can be strong in certain situations,
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  obviously, but like it's just like people are
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  gonna be playing him less because he can do less,
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  right? Same thing with like. Sure. You know,
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  you still see a lot of like, you know, in a in
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  first dash build is like very strong. Right.
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  Yeah. And then, you know, Hayes is perpetually
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  strong. But like I'm seeing like I still see
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  rates, but I see them less than you used to.
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  She used to be like kind of in every single match.
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  Yeah. Now it's like, you know, it's a nice surprise
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  when you see a rate. You're like, oh, it's great.
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  And then not to mention. Yeah, I feel like I
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  do see them a lot still, though. Yeah, I see
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  them. I see them. I'm not like I don't see them
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  at all. Right. More than the other characters
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  you mentioned, for sure. Right. I also was going
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  to say, but talking about characters that have
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  fallen off, like I don't see Wraith impacting
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  the games the way she used. She used to. There's
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  a period of time kind of in between like the
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  major update and like the last kind of like big
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  update. Sure. She was dominating. You don't see
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  that at all. I never see her. I mean, at least
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  in the games that we've been buying in the iPlay,
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  like I don't see that many Wraiths in key player
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  slots the way I see like some of these more kind
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  of like generalist characters. In those slots.
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  Yeah, dude. Speaking of which, you know, who
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  seems to have fallen off completely in my games
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  is I'm not seeing Calico just run a lobby anymore.
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  That makes sense, though, because, you know what
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  I mean? Yeah, no, I can see that. So she used
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  to be really strong when, you know, it'd be like
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  the classic like run through gank, like be everywhere.
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  It was kind of like when Ivy was really strong
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  where she had to lie across the map, do whatever.
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  There's worlds. If you watch like night shift
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  or, you know, there's. Calcos that are amazing
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  and can go in and do the assassination get out,
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  you know, do a gank hit a objective or whatever
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  really quickly But when you look at like how
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  these new characters work rat King Baba Even
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  Solomon to some extent Deadman Danny, there are
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  a lot of these characters that can just get out
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  and not deal with her bullshit Right her whole
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  thing was there could fly up to you really fast
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  in her cat form Hit you really hard and then
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  run away Potentially. Yeah, like you in one shot
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  any character who was like two -thirds health
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  She would go in and just one -shot you right
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  and I think that's and she's all go great at
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  flanking I think something that happened is like
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  a lot of these characters just have like Solomon
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  for instance has the ability to just like dodge
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  her ult right he can just go into the king the
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  whatever inside rook yeah, I mean my only thing
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  with Danny is I feel like Danny I Danny feels
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  like He feels kind of OP to me, but it's only
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  on specific characters. Like, let's say he can
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  get away with Calico, though he can get away
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  from Calico's attack, right? I mean, people have
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  been calling him air Calico, right? I mean, he's
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  basically Calico can't come up and gank a dead
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  man Danny the way that she can gank a great talent
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  or something, right? No, that's very true. I
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  feel like he's just super fucking annoying to
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  play against. Like I was always frustrated with
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  the like TF2 soldier. Overwatch Pharah type character.
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  And then one of the things that I was excited
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  about in Rivals, but eventually was very annoyed
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  by was the idea that you could have like an all
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  -flying team. I think that that actually is not
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  as fun as people would have imagined it to be,
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  where it's just like you're just perma -flying.
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  Like what is a jetpack cat in Overwatch? To me,
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  that character is just like super fucking annoying.
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  At least when it came to Lucio, you know, you
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  knew that that person had sat in a fucking practice
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  range and learned Lucio movement over the course
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  of like weeks or months, right? Whereas, if you
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  just get that for free as Dead Man Danny, you're
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  just like, I'm just mostly able to fly above
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  you. I get that he has the there is definitely
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  a risk factor to a couple of his moves where
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  he has to get in on you, right? He has that kind
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  of similar to Moe and Krill alt. and that one
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  move he has when he runs out of his jet pack,
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  he has to go in on you. But it just seems like
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  he gets out so, so, so often. Like, I played
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  a game recently as Venator, and Venator, in any
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  other game, you would say, oh, they have a flying
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  character, pick a hitscan character so that we
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  can get them out of the sky. I mean, as Venator,
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  I've had moments in game where I'm hitting most
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  of my stuff on him. Now, keep in mind, maybe
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  he was fed a little bit, but I'm hitting most
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  of my stuff on him and he just gets out anyways.
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  Yeah. And it's just like he's his his like a
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  ability. We were playing a game with a dead man,
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  Danny, where we like three people had knocked
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  down. And even with chaining the knockdowns together,
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  could not, you know, he was he to be fair, he
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  was fed. But like we could not get him because
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  like his his the movement that he has beyond
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  his jet pack and his like a passive of like crashing
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  down. the on his two or whatever it is, the he
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  also just has like with the corner edge boosting,
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  corner boosting and all this stuff. Yes. All
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  jumps and everything. He gets so much distance
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  and travel. Yes. And he gets to go, you know,
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  especially if you play your jetpack just right.
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  And then plus the being able to bounce around
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  with your gun. My God. Like he can. There's a
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  video of him like literally clearing the map
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  and like, you know, three seconds or five seconds.
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  Yeah. And you're it's nuts. They they'll have
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  to. do something, because like, look at Celeste,
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  Celeste goes in the air, but like very slowly,
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  and she gets a lot of stamina to make up for
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  it. Whereas like they kind of gave him this extra
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  little like, kind of like shiv, right click boost
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  that he can do with his weapon. That's like allowing
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  him to have like insane movement tech and make
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  him like deeply annoying. And then he's just
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  like a great one -on -one, but also still at
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  AOE, all that stuff. Yeah, I think comparing
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  him to Calico does make sense because he... He
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  pretty much every one of his cooldowns is damage
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  basically, right? I mean, he's sort of grant
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  his number his one is strict salvo. That's basically
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  damage and sort of like area denial. Chimera
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  Mark one is the second thing. That's just his
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  jetpack. That's his jetpack and overheating and
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  then he flies down to that. That's again, that's
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  utility for himself. And then 70. I think it
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  does. Yes. This is on with no ability points
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  in it but 70 explosion damage and 70 explosion
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  damage bullet so it's spirit and gun damage right
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  that's kind of a lot of damage anyways but and
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  then jettison fuel spray again that's just more
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  damage and then what's his fucking you know his
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  ultimate is again just damage right i mean i
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  think like out of all the new characters like
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  they'll probably tweak if i had to guess and
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  put money on it i would say baba and dead man
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  danny I you know, maybe they do quality of life
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  stuff to Solomon for his like hotkeys and things
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  like that. But sure, I can see the Baba and Deadman
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  Danny Racking, I think is arguably fine. I haven't
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  really seen him. He's not like impossible to
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  beat or something like that. And then I don't
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  understand why Solomon doesn't have three pips
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  for stamina like he's a character that seems
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  like they need it more than most like he needs
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  a double jump just to fucking see where his bishops
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  are going. That's a separate issue. That's a
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  separate issue. Yeah. But I'm just like, how
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  many pips does Celeste have? I mean, you know,
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  if we're going to do floating characters. A lot
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  of these characters, they, you know, they they
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  already get maybe a little extra stamina potentially,
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  but then people build in like stamina mastery
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  or something like that. Right. Which I mean,
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  you almost have to with him. Right. It's or this
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  was going to say is like you just build it into
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  the kid. Like saying, OK, because like also,
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  by the way, if you're if you're learning this
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  game, building stamina mastery is one of those
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  things where it's like, just try it. You know
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  what I mean? Like, skip Trophy Collector, buy
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  Stamina Mastery instead, and you'll be able to
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  have a little bit more wiggle room, because,
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  look, like, I'm not going to sit here and be
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  like, I have the best movement tech ever. I have
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  arguably deeply mid movement tech, but like,
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  being able to have Stamina Mastery gives you
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  wiggle room forgiveness for being able to be
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  like, oh, I'm going to do this or do that or,
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  you know, whatever, but I'll still have a Stamina
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  Pip left over to get away or get in. as opposed
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  to if you don't buy it, then you're kind of like,
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  oh, I have to be really, you know, be economical
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  with my movement. And then that's a whole other
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  like skill layer that you have to worry about
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  on top of the macro in your micro and everything
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  else. Right. Hey, dude, if you're like me and
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  you play a character like pocket or something
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  like that, you only buy stamina. You don't need
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  anything else. You I mean, realistically, I'm
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  buying a I'm buying a majestic leap. I'm buying
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  a stamina mastery. I'm buying. You know, Arcane,
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  I'm buying Kinetic, I'm buying fucking... You
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  just, the only, the all stamina builds, it's
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  just all the stamina items. Only movement tech.
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  Warpstone, yeah. Literally, by the way, not joking
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  though, I literally would buy Warpstone, Majestic,
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  and Stamina Mastery. Yeah, but now I want you
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  to go further, like Magic Carpet, like whatever
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  you can, you're like completely ineffectual,
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  but no one can get you. I mean, one of the, one
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  of the... Sort of stereotypes of a pocket is
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  that like they're just never there for the fight
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  every single time you die you look at your map
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  and your your pockets like 25 meters away and
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  you're like, where were you and it's like I was
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  in the middle of the fight when you died I mean
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  also very classic like when he does his like
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  ghost jump thing to his his suit jacket or whatever
• 19:08
  flies off his pico that That's really always
• 19:13
  a funny moment for me get you me do this all
• 19:15
  the time when you'd play pocket I'd be like dude,
• 19:16
  where the fuck are you and you you would have
• 19:18
  been right next to me But then you like port
• 19:20
  figure jacket and it looks like you were nowhere
• 19:22
  near the fight and then like You know, sometimes
• 19:25
  like a pocket sometimes just inclined to do what
• 19:28
  a pocket wants to do. That's the nature of that
• 19:30
  character But also there are other times where
• 19:32
  I'm just like we're fighting for our lives and
• 19:34
  you're like, yeah And I'm a living asshole like
• 19:36
  sunglasses on explosion in the background. That's
• 19:39
  not it's not fun when you're like Because if
• 19:41
  you I mean, it's it's a bit like Calico where
• 19:43
  you're like if I don't have my cooldowns I can't
• 19:45
  stand with you guys at all. Well, I just have
• 19:48
  to leave. Well, it's also you got way better
• 19:50
  at this as we played but there's like a thing
• 19:52
  that is in Overwatch and in other games you don't
• 19:56
  really want to die on purpose and also unless
• 19:59
  you have a character that's for some reason that's
• 20:00
  part of their kit and you also like dying doesn't
• 20:02
  really serve any reason at all in Overwatch game
• 20:06
  unless you're really like, oh, we're gonna trade
• 20:07
  or something, right? Yes, but in MOBA, you sometimes
• 20:10
  it's like, OK, one person is going to commit
• 20:12
  to killing the tower and they might die. Right.
• 20:16
  They might like die or they might fight. And
• 20:19
  like, I remember, like conversations where you're
• 20:21
  just like, dude, like, I don't I don't want to
• 20:23
  die. You know, it was one of those things where
• 20:24
  you're like, I think that on pocket more than
• 20:27
  any other character I could do with a little
• 20:30
  more inting to try to figure out where the breakpoints
• 20:34
  are, because he like. it's very often I'll have
• 20:37
  a game on pocket where I'm like, two and two
• 20:40
  or like four and four at the end of the game.
• 20:42
  And I'm like, I really didn't give as much value
• 20:45
  as I could have if I had gone like, I heard I
• 20:48
  heard deathy was recently coaching moist critical.
• 20:51
  And he was like, or maybe it was I forget who
• 20:53
  it was might not have been him. But he said something
• 20:56
  to the effect of like, Oh, if you're going to
• 20:58
  go, don't go zero and zero ever try to go six
• 21:02
  and oh, but be open to going oh and six. Right?
• 21:05
  And I thought that was actually pretty good advice
• 21:07
  because if I go one and one and to your point,
• 21:10
  I'm always, I'm always getting out. You never
• 21:13
  have those moments where you have like 25 health,
• 21:15
  but you guys killed the whole team. Yeah. You
• 21:18
  know what I mean? And that's actually much more
• 21:19
  useful. And sometimes like there's times where
• 21:22
  you make strategic decisions to say like who,
• 21:25
  who's like, like this is not always coming up
• 21:27
  when you're playing like pocket or whatever,
• 21:28
  but just generically to like people who are listening
• 21:30
  when you're the MOBAs. There's a lot of like
• 21:33
  kind of like thinking about it like chess, right?
• 21:36
  Where you're like, I'm going to give up this
• 21:37
  piece of the puzzle to win this other piece of
• 21:40
  the puzzle, right? We're going to give up. We're
• 21:42
  going to give up our walker on York to get a
• 21:44
  walker on Greenwich or something like that. Right.
• 21:46
  Or we're going to get riffed, but we're going
• 21:48
  to lose, you know, mid boss or something. You
• 21:49
  want to have a trade of some kind. It might not
• 21:51
  always be even, but you're like, OK, look, if
• 21:53
  they're going to all go to mid boss and rush
• 21:54
  it, but there's two of us up, we can get riffed
• 21:56
  real quick and then have a good trade with like
• 22:00
  intentionally dying. Like you can int. That's
• 22:04
  different, right? That's like intentionally dying
• 22:05
  to like grief and be shitty and like, you know,
• 22:08
  lose the game. Sometimes you make a decision
• 22:11
  to say, I'm going to go and I'm going to go nuts
• 22:14
  on this objective and I'm going to attack it
• 22:16
  and I'm going to get this tower that we would
• 22:18
  normally not get, whether it's like ratting,
• 22:20
  going behind, you know, doing the back door situation,
• 22:24
  going there in secret when the lane is not pushed
• 22:26
  up. Or it's a decision that to say, look, I am.
• 22:31
  not as valuable in whatever objective we need
• 22:33
  to do on the other side of the map. So I'm going
• 22:35
  to push this lane, draw all the attention to
• 22:37
  me and I might die. But the trade off of whatever
• 22:40
  we're getting in return is very good. And that's
• 22:42
  like the MOBA stuff that I think a lot of people
• 22:44
  I see, especially like in like the mid to like
• 22:46
  lower yellows. Some of them might know it, but
• 22:48
  like you couldn't date when it comes to making
• 22:50
  snap decisions about what to focus on. I do see
• 22:52
  a lot of people. either one prior prioritizing
• 22:55
  their own lives and situations where it's like
• 22:57
  if they had just stayed, we would have won the
• 22:59
  game or something like that. Right. It's like
• 23:00
  if you had just stayed and fought and and you
• 23:03
  know, you leave with like half health, not talking
• 23:05
  about you, obviously, but like someone will leave
• 23:06
  with like a fight with like half health and then
• 23:09
  let the Fed and furnace leave that lane and take
• 23:11
  their boost back to the other lane to join the
• 23:13
  fight and win. And you're like, if you had just
• 23:15
  engaged the furnace longer, we actually would
• 23:17
  have won the whole team fight. And then, you
• 23:19
  know, the Fed and furnace would have been left
• 23:21
  alone and then not. Well, I. I'm seeing a lot
• 23:24
  of people not really bring like because there's
• 23:28
  the inverse of that is people who don't aren't
• 23:31
  understanding hero shooter mechanics at all.
• 23:36
  Like I see very often the Abrams or the Billy
• 23:41
  or the fucking Mo or something sidelaning endlessly,
• 23:45
  never putting any fucking damage on tower or
• 23:48
  they have to put like they're pushing it three
• 23:50
  or four times. And it's like You just come to
• 23:53
  like I know that we can't just play Overwatch
• 23:54
  on blue all day. But if you come and stay, we'll
• 23:59
  probably win that fight or we'll have a much
• 24:00
  better chance of winning that fight because your
• 24:03
  kit is literally made to fight. You're you're
• 24:05
  you're made to anchor this team so that the Calico
• 24:08
  like it's me. You've talked about this before.
• 24:11
  We played Overwatch for a bit. It's like if I'm
• 24:13
  the tank, I want you to look at me. Come and
• 24:16
  look at me. Yeah. And then and then the calico
• 24:18
  can come from the side. And then the then you
• 24:20
  get your flank character from the side. Right.
• 24:23
  So, you know, it's a lot. I think a lot of people
• 24:26
  who come in playing this game, like wherever
• 24:27
  they're coming from, whether it's like rivals
• 24:29
  or Overwatch or Call of Duty or who knows where.
• 24:31
  Right. Or maybe they're coming from the movies
• 24:33
  or things they there's like a level of like obviously
• 24:36
  you have to learn about like the individual items
• 24:39
  and the characters and the abilities and like
• 24:41
  the ability tiers and like the objectives and
• 24:44
  whatever. Right. Not to mention that, you know,
• 24:47
  if you are learning MOBA stuff for the first
• 24:48
  time or character, you know, whatever, that's
• 24:50
  its own whole separate thing. But when you're
• 24:54
  like this game, there's a lot of people that
• 24:56
  I think they pick a character and they don't
• 24:58
  really like think about what that character is
• 25:00
  supposed to do in the total, like the whole team.
• 25:02
  Like they're yeah, there's a and I would say
• 25:05
  that some of it I would place on the game design
• 25:07
  of this game because. there's a you know, I'll
• 25:10
  watch like night shift and like I told you that
• 25:12
  I was watching like a stream where they were
• 25:14
  like shocked that the two teams that are night
• 25:15
  shift is like the kind of like pro pro see yeah
• 25:19
  that exists even though the game's not technically
• 25:20
  out yet and It'll be these games between you
• 25:24
  know eSports teams and stuff like that and they
• 25:26
  were the commenters were talking about how they
• 25:30
  were shocked no one had picked like a honest
• 25:32
  to goodness support on either side and Supports
• 25:35
  can be like really strong. But in this game,
• 25:36
  it's funny because like they're they're not really
• 25:38
  like In other games, supports are like, I'm going
• 25:41
  to heal everyone. I can heal the whole team.
• 25:43
  I can resurrect people. I can do this and that.
• 25:45
  I get shields on the entire team. There's characters
• 25:48
  that have big, huge buffs and do things like
• 25:50
  that. But almost every single character that
• 25:52
  you would consider support still outputs a shit
• 25:54
  ton of damage, whether it's to objectives or
• 25:57
  to players. Right. Like there's no characters
• 25:59
  in this game that are some of the characters
• 26:01
  that do the best healing are self healing. Right.
• 26:03
  Like they're not even really like characters
• 26:05
  that are healing everyone across the whole team.
• 26:09
  And so it is funny because this game definitely
• 26:11
  has its own unique flavor of character roles,
• 26:17
  so to speak, where it's like, yes, there's tanks.
• 26:20
  And tanks are still going to do the thing that
• 26:22
  they do where they're going to be like, come
• 26:24
  attack me, I'm going to be in the middle, I'm
• 26:25
  going to CC you, I'm going to do whatever. That
• 26:26
  role is pretty classic, I think. But then the
• 26:29
  rest of it is like, yeah, you have like damage,
• 26:32
  you have spirit damage, you have weapon damage,
• 26:34
  and then you have the characters that are maybe
• 26:36
  doing some kind of utility. Get the due to the
• 26:39
  fact that there's no draft picking or anything
• 26:42
  like that. You're it's like the the cop that
• 26:45
  you get on your side. Yes, you might get a tank,
• 26:48
  but then the rest of it's such a crapshoot that
• 26:50
  you're like, OK, we really do got to figure out
• 26:52
  who's doing what, like who's going gun? Who's
• 26:55
  going like, you know, where are we building to
• 26:57
  get on comms and do that shit way more than other
• 26:59
  games? Right. There's a player that I like named
• 27:02
  Saya. He's like the in -game leader for one of
• 27:06
  the night shift teams. and he plays a bunch of
• 27:09
  different characters. But like there have been
• 27:10
  times where I think I was watching a night shift
• 27:12
  where they are. Maybe it was a night shift. I
• 27:14
  can't. It might have been him streaming. I forget.
• 27:16
  But he was on Dynamo and they looked at the I
• 27:19
  actually now I know that it wasn't night shift
• 27:21
  because they would have just picked ban this.
• 27:24
  But he the reason that he got it is because somebody
• 27:28
  switched off their gun character or maybe it
• 27:31
  was just bad, you know, matchmaking. But he's
• 27:34
  Dynamo and he's looking at the team and he's
• 27:36
  like. Oh, we don't have a we don't have an M1
• 27:39
  carry. And so he just plays M1 carry as dynamo.
• 27:43
  Yeah. Now you can do is. Yeah, I was going to
• 27:45
  say, is that ideal? Definitely not. But you know
• 27:48
  what? If you guys have to lean into it, you can
• 27:51
  make it work, right? You can. And you could probably
• 27:53
  do that for most characters. If the team supports
• 27:56
  it, you can probably do that. Right. I mean,
• 27:58
  the I think that that's what is actually it creates
• 28:02
  more interesting situations of like. How would
• 28:05
  we organize? Like if they did do a draft pick,
• 28:07
  which I think they need to do, I would love if
• 28:09
  they did draft pick in this new ranked update
• 28:11
  for people who don't know. It's like you go through
• 28:13
  a system of everyone picks a character and then
• 28:15
  also you do pick band. So you pick a character,
• 28:18
  you ban a character and then everyone takes turns
• 28:21
  selecting. And then you end up having in relatively
• 28:23
  intentional team comp compositions on either
• 28:26
  side as opposed to what they do now, which is
• 28:28
  just give you whatever they feel like. And then
• 28:30
  you can change heroes, obviously in ranked, depending
• 28:32
  on who you have unlocked. But like, yes, if they
• 28:36
  do that and they add a pick ban or a draft pick
• 28:39
  or whatever, they have I think they solve a lot
• 28:42
  of their problems because then you can start
• 28:43
  to see, oh, who's getting banned all the time?
• 28:45
  Right. You don't have to worry about nerfing
• 28:47
  people as much as saying, OK, well, we have more
• 28:49
  time because, you know, if Papa's that much of
• 28:51
  a problem, they're just going to get banned all
• 28:52
  the time. We don't have to worry about it. But
• 28:54
  you also avoid situations like what you just
• 28:56
  described, which is like, oh, like I just looked
• 28:59
  at our team and realized that nobody went gun.
• 29:02
  because this team doesn't have a traditional
• 29:03
  M1 carry on it because the game decided just
• 29:06
  for some reason that it was like, no, I'm not
• 29:08
  doing that this time. Like you're you're going
• 29:10
  to have you're going to have to just figure it
• 29:11
  out. Sorry. Well, and a lot of the time, it's
• 29:13
  just bad communication. You got you got a mentor
• 29:15
  who decides they're going to go fucking spirit
• 29:18
  melee venator or something. And it's like, and
• 29:20
  they might have decided to fucking by accident.
• 29:22
  Who know? You know what I mean? Like, it's just
• 29:24
  one of those things. But well, in fact, they
• 29:26
  swap characters, too, though. And they get in
• 29:27
  that situation. You said by accident where they're
• 29:29
  like. you know, your M1 carry switches to like
• 29:31
  Nurse Hero and you're like, are you gonna go
• 29:33
  like Gun Nurse Hero? And they're like, what?
• 29:35
  No, I'm gonna get rescue beam. And you're like,
• 29:37
  oh God, what have we done? You're like, yeah,
• 29:39
  so, but yeah, it's a lot of it's just communication
• 29:41
  issues. Just like a relationship. Yeah, I was,
• 29:44
  yes. If, who's gonna do the dishes? You or me,
• 29:48
  Venator? All right. I don't, I can't imagine
• 29:52
  Venator doing any dishes or housework. I'm just
• 29:54
  gonna say that. I imagine he eats like gruel
• 29:58
  for. But, you know, breakfast, lunch and dinner.
• 30:02
  Given that he's like a weird Catholic, like semi
• 30:05
  like East Coast, like Northeast priest to me,
• 30:10
  he was, by the way, hunting demons and things.
• 30:13
  And by the way, the fact that you're picturing
• 30:15
  him as from or living in America at all is just
• 30:18
  completely outside of I guess he would have to
• 30:20
  live in New York. Right. But I mean, that's he's
• 30:23
  like an immigrant. Right. Like, it's kind of
• 30:25
  the vibe I got. Right. But like, I guess I'm
• 30:27
  getting at that. He's like Yeah, he's giving
• 30:29
  me an egg bagel the hockey way. Definitely not.
• 30:33
  He's like a spiritist to Sunday and is like you're
• 30:36
  like, he's an East Coast guy. He's chugging the
• 30:40
  communion wine and eating the communion wafers
• 30:42
  just hand over fist. I'm ready to do the Lord's
• 30:46
  work. Speaking of Venator, I still think Venator
• 30:49
  is a good pick. I think like, as far as these
• 30:53
  M1 carries that we were talking about, I think
• 30:56
  Wraith Hayes, Seven, Victor. I mean, these are
• 31:00
  still like the mainstays of what you'd want to
• 31:05
  pick. Venator, I think, is actually not that
• 31:08
  he's worse than those characters, but I think
• 31:09
  that in the mid to low elo, he is just sometimes
• 31:15
  harder to get value on when you compare him to
• 31:19
  Victor and Hayes. You know what I mean? Victor
• 31:21
  and Hayes and Seven are like such straightforward
• 31:24
  like... On Victor, if you don't side lane, you
• 31:27
  probably might have a little bit of problems.
• 31:30
  But I mean, Infernus is really strong right now,
• 31:31
  but he's also very strong. Infernus also doesn't
• 31:34
  really have to hit his shots. Infernus can just
• 31:36
  not hit shots and still do well. Right. I know
• 31:39
  that it's probably different in like a Ternus
• 31:40
  and some of that. But like in the lower ranks,
• 31:43
  like it's just people spam his dash build, which
• 31:47
  is just that he maximizes the damage you can
• 31:49
  do with his two or whatever. And he just runs
• 31:53
  runs through you over and over again. And to
• 31:54
  be fair, you can predict it. But like I like
• 31:57
  you and me can predict it. But I think a lot
• 31:59
  of people who play against them are just like,
• 32:01
  I just kids running through me. And you're like,
• 32:03
  I know I we played a game I haven't played page
• 32:06
  in a while. And we played a game recently where
• 32:07
  I was kept trying to catch him with the CC. And
• 32:09
  I was like, it is not the easiest thing when
• 32:12
  you haven't been practicing some character. But
• 32:15
  also there's more stuff on the map. So it's like
• 32:17
  hitting those really I mean, I would say her
• 32:21
  things are super hard to hit. But I will say
• 32:22
  like targeting has become more difficult because
• 32:26
  of how much shit is in the way everywhere, right?
• 32:28
  I'm hoping that they will get rid of a lot of
• 32:30
  the jank in terms of like, there's so much, especially
• 32:35
  playing Pocket and especially playing Solomon.
• 32:40
  Pocket has never gotten his fucking coat caught
• 32:43
  on so many things. I'm like, I'm gonna get out!
• 32:46
  And then you're just like, no, I'm not. When
• 32:48
  I play with you or I play with another pocket
• 32:50
  I see the coat stuck on some random piece of
• 32:52
  yeah, like flailing getting out of a wall Yeah,
• 32:55
  just flailing around and then he's like the pockets
• 32:57
  like trying to get away and the team is like
• 32:59
  chasing him and then just like obviously just
• 33:01
  Teleports directly into like a poster. That's
• 33:02
  five feet away instead of actually getting out.
• 33:05
  Yes. Yes. Yeah, it's it's rough but like I think
• 33:07
  I think I have to guess that though enough people
• 33:10
  would complain if that ends up being an issue
• 33:12
  that they'll don't clean some of that stuff up,
• 33:13
  but I fucking hope so a character like I think
• 33:18
  they should just make it so that abilities like
• 33:20
  that and lashes have this ability for a long
• 33:22
  this issue for a long time to where there's no
• 33:26
  there's no like height to his slam like if you
• 33:33
  hit the slam and I accidentally hit a curb two
• 33:37
  inches above your feet it will not do damage
• 33:40
  to you you know I mean like it only does damage
• 33:43
  on the actual surface that you are hitting That
• 33:47
  has gotten me enraged many different times because
• 33:49
  I'm like I just clipped into some fucking dumb
• 33:52
  thing And now I can't do any of my damage So,
• 33:55
  you know, there's some characters that have some
• 33:57
  kind of movement tech and I've seen videos of
• 33:59
  Solomon doing this along with some some of the
• 34:01
  characters characters that characters that are
• 34:04
  like a movement ability that moves like physically
• 34:07
  moves them forward and people were finding parts
• 34:10
  of the geometry that by doing it like really
• 34:12
  close to the edge of this like piece of geometry
• 34:14
  like a stepper like a little like ramp or something,
• 34:17
  it would send the character like flying way further
• 34:19
  than they should. Or it would send like an ability
• 34:21
  out way further than it should go because of
• 34:23
  just like all this extra added geometry that's
• 34:26
  like part of the map now. And I'm like, they're
• 34:28
  going to have to go. I mean, it'll take them
• 34:29
  a while, I think, to go through and find all
• 34:31
  those pieces and parts and like be like, what
• 34:33
  do we do here? Do we like smooth it out? Do we
• 34:35
  get rid of it? Right. I think they should just
• 34:38
  revert to the old map. It's the only way. I know
• 34:41
  you don't believe that. Not in your heart. Should
• 34:45
  just be in a great box. Yeah. Put me in a beige
• 34:50
  rectangle. That's what I enjoy playing in. I
• 34:54
  think that I'm ignoring that. I think that I
• 35:03
  don't think the meta feels that bad. Keep in
• 35:08
  mind, we are talking about like, you know, lower
• 35:10
  ELO stuff. It doesn't feel that bad to me. It
• 35:13
  just feels like valve needs to they need to hit
• 35:19
  some of these people with the nerf. Then I think
• 35:21
  the game can move forward after that. I don't
• 35:23
  know how many days we have left in the the ranked.
• 35:26
  I've pretty much just stopped playing ranks like
• 35:28
  it's just not as fun. I have to be honest with
• 35:33
  you, it just in my standard games, it feels like
• 35:36
  I am. It feels like I'm doing a lot better. So
• 35:40
  I've just been having more fun with that. I have
• 35:44
  fun playing in a ranked environment where I'm
• 35:46
  like, oh, I'm playing against people that are
• 35:49
  on the same level as me and the people on my
• 35:50
  team are on a similar level as me. Maybe it's
• 35:53
  the MOBA aspect of it. Maybe it's just competitive
• 35:55
  games in general. I don't feel like it's that
• 36:01
  well attuned right now. It's getting better,
• 36:04
  maybe. Me and you played a couple of games recently,
• 36:06
  ranked games, where I felt like, wow, our team's
• 36:08
  actually good. But it might have just been that
• 36:10
  we got the coin flip, where our team was just
• 36:13
  the one that was going to stomp. You know what
• 36:15
  I mean? When you do duos, I pointed it out in
• 36:17
  the stats, but I was like, every game with duos
• 36:19
  is like a ranked game, is that there's like one
• 36:23
  team that has two people that are like competent,
• 36:25
  and then the rest of their team is terrible.
• 36:26
  And then the other team is like, because you
• 36:28
  look at the stats and it'll be like, either it's
• 36:30
  you and me, not to just be like, We're the top
• 36:34
  of the bottom. We're the greatest. As an example,
• 36:39
  we'll play a map or play a game, a ranked game,
• 36:42
  and we'll go 10 and 2 and 10 and whatever. And
• 36:48
  the rest of our team is 06, 08, 09, 010, 022,
• 36:53
  or whatever, something like that. And then the
• 36:54
  enemy team is much more spread out in their stats.
• 36:59
  Maybe there's one person they carry or whatever,
• 37:00
  but arguably, Across the board they have like
• 37:03
  oh the none of them have like fed none of them
• 37:05
  have no kills and then like when you do well
• 37:08
  Like when you have a game that goes well in a
• 37:10
  duo queue and ranked and then you like look at
• 37:12
  the stats You see oh actually on the enemy team
• 37:16
  is the reverse where there's two people that
• 37:18
  did okay And then the rest of the team was terrible
• 37:21
  and you're like, oh, yeah like to your point
• 37:22
  It's like we probably just were on the other
• 37:24
  side of the the coin, right? It could be a crap
• 37:27
  shoot. So yeah, it's hard to tell I imagine that
• 37:30
  they're just trying to make that system better
• 37:32
  over time. But also like if you were to go into
• 37:35
  a league game or a Dota game today, would it
• 37:39
  really be that different? You know what I mean?
• 37:41
  I think it's I think it's different when it comes
• 37:44
  to like matchmaking, but also like, keep in mind,
• 37:46
  like this game has is unfinished. Right. And
• 37:49
  I know that sometimes that's used as an excuse
• 37:51
  to be like, well, you know, don't say anything
• 37:53
  bad about it. It's unfinished. But I do think
• 37:55
  that they are still figuring this stuff out,
• 37:57
  whereas like In other games, you have like League
• 38:00
  of Legends as an example. There's always new
• 38:03
  people coming to League of Legends and they have
• 38:04
  to filter in like new people with old people,
• 38:06
  people who haven't played in a long time, who
• 38:08
  have like deranked and all these other things.
• 38:10
  Yeah. And that is its own system that's dealing
• 38:12
  with like a legacy structure. Whereas like the
• 38:16
  with this game, I think that they're going to
• 38:19
  be one, incorporating new people constantly and
• 38:23
  having to deal with that. And then to sorting
• 38:25
  out with. out disrupting and upsetting the streamers
• 38:31
  and competitive esports players how to set up
• 38:35
  and bifurcate these ranks to segment them out
• 38:39
  in a way that makes everyone happy. But because
• 38:41
  there's no draft pick, there's no incentive structure,
• 38:44
  there's no rewards, there's no... A lot of the
• 38:47
  things that get people to grind and rank are
• 38:50
  not there in this game, the way that they would
• 38:52
  be in other games that are fully out. I think
• 38:55
  it's just gonna take time, and people are just
• 38:56
  gonna, you know, they'll play, they'll take the
• 38:58
  data, they'll figure out what to do, they'll
• 39:00
  make changes, and then repeat that process for
• 39:02
  arguably years, I guess. It's like everything,
• 39:05
  it's like, you know, we have started the countdown
• 39:08
  right now until people start complaining about
• 39:10
  this game in a much more serious way, right?
• 39:13
  Oh, dude. You know, people, I have seen maybe
• 39:18
  troll comments that say things to the effect
• 39:20
  of like, man. when it was four lanes, you know,
• 39:23
  deadlock, you know, it's like, is that really
• 39:26
  the golden age? But I don't know, I didn't I
• 39:29
  came in after four lanes, but before map updates
• 39:33
  and before the urn changes and before the rift
• 39:38
  and all this stuff. And I don't know that there's
• 39:42
  been more of a golden age than right now. You
• 39:45
  know what I mean? I have there been times. Did
• 39:47
  it feel more balanced? Yes, of course. Yeah.
• 39:50
  Right. But It's very fun right now and there's
• 39:53
  a lot of people. The nature of this game is that
• 39:55
  they keep working on it, they keep changing it,
• 39:57
  they keep adding stuff and whatever. We said
• 40:00
  this last week, but they're not shy with doing
• 40:02
  things, like changing things and taking things
• 40:04
  away. I think that they're gonna look at the
• 40:08
  data, they're gonna hear what people have to
• 40:09
  say and make decisions. We all just have to hope
• 40:13
  to God that the streamers and people that turn
• 40:16
  as players that have... The developer's ears
• 40:19
  are not over here being like, get rid of everything
• 40:21
  fun and replace it with shit that sucks. Anyone
• 40:24
  below Ternus has to have sand in their eyes when
• 40:26
  they play like. Sure. Yeah. One thing I wanted
• 40:29
  to bring up before we move off of sort of meta
• 40:31
  conversations is just that I have seen a lot
• 40:35
  of people complaining about Radiant Regen as
• 40:38
  an item because a lot of the life steal stuff
• 40:41
  got nerfed before this whole big map patch and
• 40:44
  Radiant Regen kind of got like missed in it.
• 40:47
  And if you look at a lot of these characters,
• 40:48
  like Baba is probably, I don't even know that
• 40:52
  you'd need to nerf Baba completely. Maybe you
• 40:54
  can nerf her a little bit, but like Radiant Regen
• 40:58
  is just, it's one of those things where I'm like,
• 41:00
  oh, Radiant Regen early on makes her this like
• 41:05
  Mystic Regen, I think into Radiant Regen, into
• 41:08
  Healing Booster, into fucking Torment Pulse.
• 41:12
  Like she just starts procking this over and over
• 41:15
  and over again while she's stealing your spirit.
• 41:18
  while she's making her spirit go up, which feeds
• 41:21
  back into the radiant region. And then I don't
• 41:23
  even I haven't looked into what the like, is
• 41:27
  there a cut off for that? Or is she just getting
• 41:29
  five billion spirit and then regening that quickly?
• 41:32
  It seems like she is because she never fucking
• 41:33
  dies. Right. I mean, I don't I don't know the
• 41:36
  math, but like the it's something that everyone
• 41:38
  in the I think the community is aware of this
• 41:40
  situation because like there's a I saw a TikTok
• 41:44
  video that was like that was some guy being like,
• 41:47
  our most popular character in this game right
• 41:49
  now is an old lady on a bench. Yeah. Like, or
• 41:52
  not popular, most popular, strongest, right?
• 41:54
  Yes. You're like, it is very funny to stylistically
• 41:57
  with Deadlock that that's like, you're like,
• 41:59
  oh, who's like the strongest person I could play?
• 42:00
  And you're like, oh, the old lady on the bench
• 42:02
  with the pigeons. Yeah. Welcome to Deadlock.
• 42:05
  Yeah. It's funny because as of right now, across
• 42:09
  all ranks, most popular characters, obviously
• 42:12
  Nurse Harrow, but then it's still Rat King. Wrecking
• 42:16
  is still like riding high in the pic rates that
• 42:19
  makes perfect sense to me. He's like he has super
• 42:22
  he's really flexible He's survivable his kids
• 42:25
  super fun. He's interesting as a character like
• 42:27
  his very I would say his kids also make very
• 42:29
  Beginner friendly like you throw that cue out
• 42:32
  and it there's no there's no skill shot with
• 42:34
  that cue that thing just goes towards people
• 42:36
  Yes, so like and it doesn't I wouldn't say way
• 42:39
  too much damage, but I mean, he does level off
• 42:42
  like towards like the later half of the game,
• 42:43
  but he's gonna kill like all that stuff. Yeah,
• 42:46
  they needed this character though, because I
• 42:47
  feel like they didn't really have a, people could
• 42:52
  probably say Abrams is this, but Abrams is not
• 42:54
  near as easy to play as Rat King is. Like there's
• 42:58
  a bunch of shit with Abrams that you kind of
• 43:02
  just have to know. You know what I mean? And.
• 43:05
  You know when to use his ult do I do I escape
• 43:08
  with it? Do I go in with it when to use that
• 43:11
  heavy melee? How many ability points do I need
• 43:13
  in my charge for the charge to make sure that
• 43:16
  I can get the follow -up on the man? Like these
• 43:18
  are things that the game doesn't tell you you
• 43:20
  just have to lose eight games of fucking Abrams
• 43:23
  in a row and then someone in the chat is like
• 43:25
  Yeah, use the fucking thing and it's like listen
• 43:28
  rat King doesn't have any of those problems rat
• 43:30
  King is like you shoot your gun at people you
• 43:33
  press a button that makes you more tankier you
• 43:35
  press another alt button that makes you and your
• 43:37
  team tankier you throw out the fucking as you
• 43:40
  said the homing fucking missile of a mine or
• 43:44
  whatever the fuck it is bomb you throw rats at
• 43:47
  people nobody knows what they do seems to work
• 43:49
  seems to they die faster i don't know um get
• 43:53
  them jennifer yeah exactly go go emerald I don't
• 43:57
  think that's called everyone, but. You don't
• 43:59
  know what happens, they just die faster. You
• 44:01
  can say that about every move in this game that's
• 44:03
  not passive. Well, I'm just talking about somebody
• 44:05
  who like picks up Rat King, doesn't read the
• 44:07
  abilities and just throws the rats at people.
• 44:09
  And it's like, I don't know what that. I mean,
• 44:10
  I know that it stops there. By the way, stealing
• 44:14
  stamina is like a whole new thing with this patch
• 44:16
  with Nurse Harrow and Rat King. And like, I'm
• 44:19
  not super sure how I feel about it because I
• 44:22
  like having my stamina. And I think you can see.
• 44:26
  Like seeing how much stamina people have is also
• 44:29
  new to this patch, right? Yeah, I Wait, you can
• 44:33
  see how much statement of people if you can see
• 44:37
  Yes, you can I think it's above their head. There's
• 44:40
  like some to be fair. I've turned off almost
• 44:41
  so I still I said this episode to or some at
• 44:45
  that I Need to mod the like health bars cuz I
• 44:50
  can't sure that's like my one thing where I'm
• 44:52
  just like this shit sucks like I I know that
• 44:55
  the other version was ugly, but I want to see.
• 44:58
  I would just prefer a number like a color coded
• 44:59
  number that's like, this is the actual number
• 45:03
  of health that they have. And I don't like a
• 45:05
  big red bar above their head because it's just
• 45:08
  there's too much noise. Still, it's UI to me
• 45:11
  is still something where they're going to have
• 45:13
  to like do some work. And I know that all that
• 45:15
  quality of life stuff was what they call it when
• 45:17
  you're able to change the UI around for your
• 45:19
  own your own pleasure. But like that stuff. I
• 45:24
  know that I'm going to be patient for, so I'll
• 45:25
  just mod that shit. Like, yeah, I'll just be
• 45:27
  like, give me I'll go in and I'll mod it myself.
• 45:29
  Give me a raw number. And if it's a big number,
• 45:32
  make it green. If it's a low number, make it
• 45:33
  red. But like that is interesting. I didn't know
• 45:37
  that I am. I do like stealing people's salmon.
• 45:40
  I'm not going to lie. But that's mostly because
• 45:42
  I hate when people get away from me. Yeah. You
• 45:45
  never buy slowing hex, man. Get that slowing
• 45:47
  hex, brother. I don't wait. Is this a I like
• 45:50
  slowing hex on some characters, but I. I don't
• 45:54
  know, dude. The last thing I'll say from my side
• 45:58
  about the meta right now is I probably could
• 46:03
  put a collection together of at least a dozen
• 46:05
  videos or TikToks or posts that say, guys, you
• 46:09
  gotta start buying way more active items. That's
• 46:12
  how you win games. And it's like this whole thing
• 46:14
  of like, if you buy an active item and it's all,
• 46:17
  you know, of course it's like a silence wave,
• 46:20
  slowing hex, disarm. uh what's the other one
• 46:23
  uh or yeah disarming hex and then uh knock down
• 46:26
  right those things yeah those are totally legitimate
• 46:29
  in terms of like a thing to say yes if the situation
• 46:32
  calls for it you should buy knock down you should
• 46:34
  buy yes disarming hex whatever but what's funny
• 46:37
  about it to me is that um it never before have
• 46:40
  those items been less useful because so many
• 46:43
  characters now have so much like spam movement
• 46:47
  shit Right. Like we were just talking about earlier,
• 46:49
  like our team had like four knockdowns for Deadman
• 46:52
  Danny. He said he's such a moving character.
• 46:57
  The not to mention that they also had a lash
• 46:59
  and a and a verdict or something. So it's like
• 47:02
  it becomes to the point where you're like, actually,
• 47:05
  despite it used to be a strong item that would
• 47:08
  be like, you know, it was strong enough that
• 47:09
  they had to make it cost twice as much. And then.
• 47:14
  Now you're like, I don't even know if I would
• 47:16
  have recommended anyone after the fact, if I
• 47:18
  would tell anyone to build knock down, I'd be
• 47:20
  like, let's, I mean, dude, there's so little
• 47:22
  nuance in these Reddit conversations though.
• 47:24
  Like I see this conversation happening over and
• 47:26
  over and over again. Somebody will say, dude,
• 47:29
  what the hell are you even supposed to do against
• 47:31
  X character? And then the number one comment
• 47:34
  is always, yeah, dude, but I wished put Chef
• 47:38
  Boyardee in the game. We, by the way, we might
• 47:40
  just say this every episode, but the top comment
• 47:44
  is always like, Dude, just buy X, you know, variable
• 47:48
  fucking active item, right? And it's typically
• 47:51
  like, if you're like, what do I even do against,
• 47:54
  you know, Calico? It's like, well, buy Slowing
• 47:57
  Hex. What do I even do against Wraith by Slowing
• 48:00
  Hex? It's like, here's what doesn't get said
• 48:04
  because they're just fucking rage baiting, or
• 48:05
  they just heard their favorite streamer say this.
• 48:07
  You have to know when to use it in their ability
• 48:10
  cycle. You have to know the other character's
• 48:12
  ability cycle. right, and their abilities. If
• 48:15
  you're playing against a Wraith and they're shitting
• 48:17
  on you and they shit on you in lane, which is
• 48:18
  something that Wraith probably shouldn't even
• 48:21
  be able to do if you know what you're doing.
• 48:25
  And if they're not just much better than you,
• 48:26
  you have to wait till they kind of engage you.
• 48:29
  Maybe some of their health gets lost in the trade
• 48:31
  and they start thinking, oh, fuck, I'm fucked.
• 48:33
  I have to get out. Then you hit them with the
• 48:35
  slowing hex. If you, when you tell somebody just
• 48:38
  by slowing hex, just by fucking knockdown, by
• 48:41
  the way, this is why we lost that game with the
• 48:42
  knockdowns. The second people see someone, they
• 48:45
  just hit them with the knockdown. They're not
• 48:46
  waiting until Bebop's actually in his ult. They're
• 48:49
  not waiting till Seven's in their ult. They're
• 48:51
  not waiting till, you know, Grave Talon or Vindicta
• 48:55
  have used their flight move. No, they're just,
• 48:57
  they see the character. They know this counters
• 49:01
  them. I use it on them and then nothing fucking
• 49:04
  happens because it's on cooldown and it didn't,
• 49:06
  they're waiting it out. Yeah, no, I agree with
• 49:09
  you. I think that to your point, like the...
• 49:11
  thing about like the people being like, here's
• 49:13
  the, I see a lot of people are coming into the
• 49:15
  game and I see a lot of, and I don't want to
• 49:17
  call them like charlatans or snake oil salespeople,
• 49:20
  but like they are saying, here's the trick to
• 49:25
  do to win the game. We're definitely not one
• 49:27
  of them. Well, I mean, we're telling about our
• 49:30
  own experiences and what we think is good or
• 49:32
  bad. These are people who like, I'm talking about
• 49:35
  like people who make a video and then you look
• 49:37
  at their account and they have like two deadlocked
• 49:40
  videos and the rest are like about Marvel rivals
• 49:42
  or something and they're just getting in but
• 49:44
  they're They're looking at reddit and seeing
• 49:46
  oh, what are the conversations about what's broken?
• 49:47
  What's not and then making a video with something?
• 49:49
  That's not even their own opinion from some like
• 49:51
  random reddit edgelord who maybe by the way is
• 49:55
  maybe making a very good point but it to your
• 49:57
  point is like there's no nuance in like you know,
• 50:01
  a circle jerk of like, you know what I mean?
• 50:04
  Like, I mean, dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, the shit
• 50:05
  sucks, dude. And then like somebody makes a TikTok
• 50:07
  video out of it saying like, that's their opinion.
• 50:10
  I mean, dude, I, I agree. And I don't agree because
• 50:12
  part of my argument is get good, which is exactly
• 50:17
  what you're saying. But but the The thing I am
• 50:21
  the thing I'm getting at is like, yes, you can
• 50:23
  tell people what counter item to buy. It doesn't
• 50:26
  matter because they have to get good. And I don't
• 50:27
  mean like they don't. I don't disagree with that,
• 50:30
  by the way. Yeah. I mean, my point is you have
• 50:33
  to know what all the chess pieces do before you
• 50:36
  can really decide that you're going to use one
• 50:38
  against another. You know what I mean? Like I
• 50:40
  totally agree with that. Yeah. So it's like.
• 50:42
  I don't love playing Wraith. I think she's very
• 50:44
  boring. I think her whole thing is kind of boring.
• 50:46
  But I played a bunch of Wraith because Wraith
• 50:48
  was shitting on me every game until I was like,
• 50:51
  Oh, I kind of see what she's doing. She sidelines
• 50:54
  if you approach her, you got to check if she
• 50:55
  has all if she has all she's going to fucking
• 50:57
  win that fight 90 % of the time. So you just
• 51:01
  wait it out and you kind of and then same thing
• 51:03
  with the slowing hex like I hadn't realized slowing
• 51:06
  hex works on movement abilities. I thought it
• 51:08
  was just for movement speed. Yeah, but The reason
• 51:12
  it fucks over Wraith and Apollo and all these
• 51:14
  characters that use ability movement so much
• 51:16
  is that they can't you you wait until they absolutely
• 51:20
  need that move and they're pressing it over and
• 51:23
  over again and being like what what what that's
• 51:25
  when they like if you use it before or after
• 51:28
  that it was it you you wasted a buy on an item.
• 51:32
  Yeah. By the way, I agree with all that. I was
• 51:35
  just saying that there are people who are coming
• 51:36
  into making content and talking about like what
• 51:38
  to do in this game that you actually look at
• 51:40
  their page and you're like, oh, they don't actually
• 51:41
  play Deadlock, right? Sure. And then they're
• 51:43
  like telling people what to do. You're saying
• 51:45
  that people are charlatans making content just
• 51:47
  for clicks. I'll never believe it. Not a real
• 51:51
  thing. All right. Well, that's that I think that's
• 51:55
  a good update on like the meta and all that stuff
• 51:57
  you want to talk about a little bit of what actually
• 52:00
  let's say is there anything else that you want
• 52:02
  to get in before we move on to lore? Any messages?
• 52:07
  Any? No, nothing popping to mind. I think maybe
• 52:14
  the same thing I see every week, which is like,
• 52:16
  go easy on yourselves, guys. Play some other
• 52:19
  random character you don't even care about. Play
• 52:21
  the build that doesn't make any sense. Int. Int
• 52:26
  in your games, I'll tell you right now. Grief
• 52:28
  and int. Grief and int. Just keep the - We're
• 52:31
  bullying harass people in chat. Don't do that.
• 52:35
  So when I say int, I'm using int sarcastically.
• 52:38
  But like, overextend. See what your character
• 52:41
  can do. I didn't know that Paige can basically
• 52:44
  tank the whole fucking world because I was like,
• 52:46
  Paige is a support, she stays in the back line.
• 52:48
  And then you start playing and you're like, actually
• 52:50
  she can kind of just walk up and smack people
• 52:52
  for like 15 minutes in the game. Eventually,
• 52:54
  you know what I mean? So just like just the fuck
• 52:56
  out of people. That's what I'm saying. She can.
• 52:59
  Dude, I was like the way that I thought about
• 53:02
  playing Solomon was, dude, he sits with his chess
• 53:05
  pieces. He's going to have like I make myself
• 53:08
  tanky with my with my whatever the things called
• 53:12
  the night move where you put the you get a massive
• 53:14
  shield. So, yeah, everyone's like, dude, he stays
• 53:17
  in the back line. He's so methodical. He does.
• 53:19
  No, dude, I've just started playing him as like
• 53:21
  kind of an off tank. utility. And I'm doing great
• 53:25
  with them. You know what I mean? But so if you
• 53:27
  have an idea of how to play them, like, don't
• 53:29
  let everyone tell you no, like, try it out. If
• 53:32
  it really doesn't work, it doesn't work. You
• 53:34
  know? Love yourself. Treat yourself. Go get a
• 53:40
  massage. You need it from all the hours of burning
• 53:44
  through deadlock. Or whatever. Carl's Jr. Whatever.
• 53:48
  Weird. And then, yeah, look at yourself in the
• 53:53
  mirror and say, I love you. Then go throw five
• 53:56
  deadlock games in a row and see how you feel
• 53:58
  after Rat King more like fat king I Can't wait
• 54:04
  for my McDonald's and rat king collab all the
• 54:09
  different toys. They have a 1 ,000 rats The Happy
• 54:15
  Meal the rat king value meal. Yes, exactly made
• 54:18
  with real ready The all right. Well, that's Let's
• 54:27
  move on to do you want some more? Deadlock lore.
• 54:31
  Yeah I'm going to pick a random Deadlock character
• 54:36
  and then yarn is going to guess their lore because
• 54:39
  we try not to look at the lore for context and
• 54:42
  with much to the chagrin of many people I think
• 54:44
  because they are there's a lot of people that
• 54:46
  comment on like being like don't you know that
• 54:48
  viscous is actually the ambassador for the undersea
• 54:50
  kingdom of viscosia Yeah, which I'll none of
• 54:54
  that is true. I made that up. But like I'll just
• 54:56
  be real. No, I didn't know that at all. And I
• 55:01
  like I the amount of corrections or comments
• 55:04
  that we get on, like especially on TikTok of
• 55:06
  people being like really minutiae. Like it's
• 55:08
  not even in the description. It's like a voice
• 55:11
  line. Right. Yeah. People are very passionate
• 55:14
  about the character roster and like the lore,
• 55:16
  which is like amazing. So but like part of the
• 55:18
  fun that we have is that we don't we don't want
• 55:19
  to look it up until we have to. I will say this.
• 55:26
  I love the lore so much. I want to watch every
• 55:30
  three hour long video that says like, you know,
• 55:33
  explanation of the cursed apples, you know, economy
• 55:35
  or whatever. It's like, I dodge all of them for
• 55:39
  this show, because we have to be ignorant to
• 55:42
  these things to be able to guess. Yes. And honestly,
• 55:45
  leave a comment if you think this whole thing
• 55:47
  is stupid. And it doesn't matter because it's
• 55:49
  like Well, I would like to free myself from this
• 55:53
  prison of my own making. You don't want to open
• 55:55
  up the car. You don't want to open up to all
• 55:57
  the feedback because then they're going to be
• 55:58
  like, just talk about feet for 30 minutes. And
• 56:01
  then if you want that, if that's going to make
• 56:03
  this channel bigger, that's what we're going
• 56:06
  to grow. Anything to grow. All right. Are you
• 56:11
  ready for me to spin the wheel? Spin it. I'm
• 56:15
  very low energy today because of like personal
• 56:17
  like life reasons So like I'm over here been
• 56:19
  like today my wheels very tiny normally the wheels
• 56:21
  very big this time It's like the kind that you
• 56:23
  get like a fair when you just like flick it with
• 56:25
  your finger and it's like Are you ready? I'm
• 56:28
  gonna go This is a very this is really wet wheel
• 56:33
  It's a wet carnival that we're in Ernie warden
• 56:42
  warden warden Warden. Ugh. I don't like Warden
• 56:48
  very much. Maybe it's my... You know, I don't
• 56:52
  know. It's... He... Warden. Okay. It's got a
• 56:58
  bad mouth feel. It's got a bad visual. It's got
• 57:02
  a bad... You prefer Ward Out. Yes. Ward Out.
• 57:07
  Piston. All right. So let's think about Warden,
• 57:10
  because I do know... As I have to pretend I do
• 57:14
  know his lore intimately and I'm about to share
• 57:16
  my knowledge of it with you. Yes, exactly. So
• 57:19
  Warden This all takes place in like the 30s or
• 57:23
  40s or something, right? Mm -hmm. Oh, no, no,
• 57:26
  no, it's earlier than that All right, so so Warden
• 57:33
  was on a task force for the New York, you know
• 57:38
  beat cops to get these. He was essentially what
• 57:45
  back then was known as the flapper removal squad.
• 57:48
  And so his thing was, wherever the sounds of
• 57:54
  jazz could be heard, wherever the clinking of
• 57:56
  martinis was in the air, he'd be there to just
• 58:00
  ruin that time and arrest everybody. And I think
• 58:04
  racism isn't super duper a part of the cursed
• 58:09
  apple and deadlock lore, but he's racist anyways.
• 58:12
  He's just a piece of shit. He's just a bad guy.
• 58:18
  His mustache smells like fucking you don't even
• 58:22
  want to know dude, but it's nothing you'd want
• 58:23
  to get your lips on. That's for sure. So and
• 58:26
  he's got a Bobby's helmet. That is something
• 58:29
  that his higher ups have told him many different
• 58:31
  times is not part of the uniform. He's lost vacation
• 58:34
  days because of it. he just wears it anyways
• 58:37
  it's just a it's a real mental issue he has are
• 58:41
  there any other cops on the the deadlock roster
• 58:44
  here i mean like aprams is like a pi right yeah
• 58:48
  that's right so oh yeah so but he doesn't feel
• 58:51
  like a detective he feels like a pi right yeah
• 58:54
  but he's had to work with warden before in like
• 58:56
  a sort of law and order svu type situation where
• 58:59
  like it's sort of a imagine like a procedural
• 59:04
  sort of cop episode. And Warden is like, Abrams
• 59:08
  is like, Abrams is like, if you look at the body
• 59:13
  from this angle, you can actually see that there
• 59:15
  and then Warden comes in and he's like, this
• 59:17
  is my jurisdiction. Get out of here. Munching
• 59:21
  on a donut. Munching on a donut. scrolling rumble
• 59:26
  .com I did see I've been seeing that I Don't
• 59:36
  want to say the gay community because it was
• 59:38
  just literally one post on reddit But I have
• 59:40
  been seeing that people think that wardens pretty
• 59:41
  hot which is sort of its own fucked up thing
• 59:46
  Copaganda, that's copaganda copaganda for sure,
• 59:49
  but listen if people are saying Venator's Venator
• 59:53
  is the hottest guy in the game. I get that If
• 59:55
  people are saying Drifter's voice is attractive,
• 59:58
  that's great. I even understand Warden's voice
• 1:00:02
  being cool. I just think that Warden is boring
• 1:00:05
  on every level you can rate him. Boring character
• 1:00:09
  model, boring lore, boring kit. Like, what is
• 1:00:14
  this guy got? He's just the worst character.
• 1:00:16
  And when he was high up in the meta, everyone
• 1:00:20
  fucking hated it. They loved him. He's the worst
• 1:00:24
  character in the game now. You I believe you
• 1:00:26
  I don't want to call you a liar but like the
• 1:00:28
  idea that someone I like looking at his character
• 1:00:30
  model right now and I'm like if He has like the
• 1:00:33
  classic trope thing of like a cartoon character
• 1:00:35
  with a big hat where you can't see his eyes and
• 1:00:37
  the Hat goes down to like a mustache Which is
• 1:00:38
  by the way, I like they're like Looney Tunes
• 1:00:41
  character. I think it's funny. That's not what
• 1:00:43
  I was gonna say I was gonna say I can't imagine
• 1:00:45
  anyone looking at this and being like it's like
• 1:00:47
  the same people being like Yosemite Sam is hot
• 1:00:49
  Right. It's like you're like, sure. Explain,
• 1:00:52
  explain. Listen, I also understand that this
• 1:00:54
  is like generationally. I am a millennial. I'm
• 1:00:58
  not like a big Blue Lives Matter guy. Like, you
• 1:01:00
  know, it's just part of that. It's just part
• 1:01:02
  of being, you know, he's a cop. There are one
• 1:01:07
  cop listeners just like, oh, shucks, another
• 1:01:09
  podcast I can't listen to. Yeah. Well, I mean,
• 1:01:12
  I'm also not even saying like. What whatever
• 1:01:15
  let's not even get into politics. I'm just saying
• 1:01:17
  that warden I think is supposed to be a bad cop,
• 1:01:21
  right? I Dude, okay. So I before I read it the
• 1:01:26
  lore I just want to say like I think maybe it
• 1:01:28
  was an episode zero or whatever that has never
• 1:01:30
  seen the light of day We talked about it. Maybe
• 1:01:32
  it's episode one. We talked about the character
• 1:01:34
  Oh, we talked about warden and we talked about
• 1:01:36
  his voice lines where he's like he his voice
• 1:01:39
  lines are That he's trying to do the right thing,
• 1:01:42
  right? He's like I'm going to like It's a lot
• 1:01:45
  of like, I'm going to save the community by kicking
• 1:01:48
  your ass. That's like, sure. Yeah. Right. Police
• 1:01:51
  police brutality will save the day and create
• 1:01:53
  peace once more. Like it's that kind of stuff
• 1:01:56
  where he certainly believes that's the impression
• 1:01:59
  I get is that he's doing the right thing. Right.
• 1:02:01
  Listen, I heard this recently, and this is going
• 1:02:03
  to explain sort of my general feelings about
• 1:02:06
  Worden. Somebody was talking recently on somewhere
• 1:02:09
  about the different ways that Zack Snyder's Superman
• 1:02:14
  versus James Gunn Superman is they were like,
• 1:02:17
  you know, Zack Snyder Superman saves you the
• 1:02:20
  way a cop saves you. Whereas James Gunn Superman
• 1:02:24
  saves you the way a firefighter saves you. Right.
• 1:02:27
  And I think that Warden for me is secured in
• 1:02:32
  that cop position. You know, I mean, the Snyder
• 1:02:35
  versus the Snyder versus Warden. He's like, I'm
• 1:02:39
  going to get you off the top of that tree cat
• 1:02:41
  by blowing up the tree. Yeah, it was also funny
• 1:02:43
  too, because like, the whole thing was because
• 1:02:45
  they were looking at in the new Spider -Man movie,
• 1:02:48
  he like zips past two cars that like clearly
• 1:02:51
  explode. And then somebody in the fucking DC
• 1:02:54
  subreddit was like, if this was a Superman movie,
• 1:02:58
  people would be crying for 10 years about how
• 1:03:00
  he let these two people die. And it's like, all
• 1:03:03
  right, good, fair point, but I mean, the difference
• 1:03:05
  is that Superman can do hypothetically anything,
• 1:03:08
  right? Sure. Fast, whatever. Whereas like Spider
• 1:03:10
  -Man in that movie is still like he's coming
• 1:03:12
  to grips with like his own ability. He doesn't
• 1:03:14
  get his. Yes. We learn a spoiler alert, by the
• 1:03:17
  way, for the new Spider -Man movie. You haven't
• 1:03:18
  seen it. Skip this part. 30 seconds. He doesn't
• 1:03:21
  fully realize his powers until the end of that
• 1:03:24
  movie. And then we realize, oh, shit, he actually
• 1:03:25
  this entire time hasn't really been fully realized.
• 1:03:28
  Spider -Man. Yes. Yes. Which I enjoy. I think
• 1:03:30
  Worden is fully realized. I think he has his
• 1:03:34
  powers, so he is just making a choice to do whatever
• 1:03:36
  the fuck he's doing. But may I grace you with
• 1:03:39
  his backstory? Please. All right. Just as a context,
• 1:03:44
  his taglines are initiator, fearless, one man
• 1:03:47
  army, which is always funny that sometimes they
• 1:03:49
  use those to describe the gameplay characters.
• 1:03:51
  Before you before you go into this, did you know
• 1:03:53
  that because he has the voice line, you know,
• 1:03:57
  never fear wardens here, whatever the voice line
• 1:03:58
  is, they The community said this enough that
• 1:04:03
  Yoshi actually changed it so that when you're
• 1:04:05
  in his alt and he says the like I never fear
• 1:04:09
  it Doesn't fear him in in Haro's alt Pretty sweet,
• 1:04:17
  right? Yeah, that is cool. Um So his backstory
• 1:04:21
  says most people think the supernatural came
• 1:04:23
  into the world 50 years ago Which I didn't even
• 1:04:26
  I mean not knowing anything about the Lord. I
• 1:04:29
  didn't know that That's a so there's this thing
• 1:04:31
  called the maelstrom. I did know this. The maelstrom
• 1:04:33
  opened up like, ah, it's a conjunction of the
• 1:04:36
  situation. Yeah. Like a witcher. That's sick.
• 1:04:40
  Yes, it's actually we'll get into it more as
• 1:04:43
  we get through the characters. But yeah, I know.
• 1:04:44
  But I mean, this is the fun part about taking
• 1:04:46
  it one piece of the time is that I get to learn
• 1:04:47
  about all the fun stuff here. So all right. Most
• 1:04:49
  people think that the supernatural came into
• 1:04:51
  the world 50 years ago. They're wrong. It's presence
• 1:04:54
  shaped folklore for generations. And as long
• 1:04:57
  as there have been people afraid of the shadows,
• 1:04:59
  there have been those who dedicate their lives
• 1:05:01
  to fighting in them. Coming from a lineage of
• 1:05:06
  militant alchemists, Warden's family has always
• 1:05:09
  trained for the day they would have to stave
• 1:05:12
  off a mystic apocalypse. But as time passed,
• 1:05:15
  the importance of the lessons seemed less and
• 1:05:18
  less important. What was once viewed as a sincere
• 1:05:22
  warning slowly morphed into a being perceived
• 1:05:25
  as amusing anecdotes told by their superstitious
• 1:05:28
  grandparents. When the portal opened in Central
• 1:05:31
  Park, Warden's parents realized not only was
• 1:05:34
  everything they were told true, they were also
• 1:05:37
  unprepared, refusing to let the next generation
• 1:05:40
  fall asleep on the job. Warden was trained since
• 1:05:43
  birth to be a supernatural killing machine with
• 1:05:46
  one purpose, stop the patrons from ever entering
• 1:05:48
  our world. Wow. That was probably one of the
• 1:05:51
  weirder written like the way it's written feels
• 1:05:53
  very much Different from the other ones where
• 1:05:56
  it's like so long. He's actually John Stewart
• 1:06:01
  from Green Lantern, I didn't realize that he's
• 1:06:06
  like trained by his parents since a child to
• 1:06:10
  be the Green Lantern Okay, but hear me out the
• 1:06:13
  there's a thing implied here, which we don't
• 1:06:16
  get an answer This is another one of those things
• 1:06:17
  where the backstory doesn't actually answer.
• 1:06:19
  Yeah They they yes, that's right. They they've
• 1:06:23
  trained him from birth. The difference was that
• 1:06:25
  they trained Jon Stewart in The Lantern Show
• 1:06:27
  to be a hero, right? And to be like - By the
• 1:06:31
  way, I will say, I almost wonder if this is kind
• 1:06:35
  of, especially since it's all space cop stuff,
• 1:06:38
  I wonder if this is actually influenced by that
• 1:06:40
  because even the I never fear thing is like,
• 1:06:44
  this might just be like a full on rip of a Green
• 1:06:47
  Lantern story, right? I don't remember what his
• 1:06:49
  story is in the comic books, but the thing, that
• 1:06:54
  I'm gleaning from this about Worden is that when
• 1:06:58
  the fuck did the cop part come into it? Like,
• 1:07:00
  did they just put him in this outfit? Like, there's
• 1:07:02
  not actually anti supernatural cop police. It's
• 1:07:06
  just that, like, they decided to put him into
• 1:07:09
  a fucking insane cop uniform for no reason. Yeah,
• 1:07:11
  I mean, let's be honest. He looks the way he
• 1:07:13
  looks. Let's be totally honest. It's like every
• 1:07:17
  part of this character is just like segmented
• 1:07:19
  and unfinished and like somebody was like. Yes.
• 1:07:21
  Make a cop model. And they're like, it'll be
• 1:07:25
  so funny if he like has a Bobby's helmet and
• 1:07:27
  it's over his face the same way that the soldier
• 1:07:29
  was from TF2. What a cool reference. Like, which,
• 1:07:32
  by the way, it is. But it's it's just yeah, this
• 1:07:34
  character is just segmented in weird ways. And
• 1:07:36
  I think that could definitely use kind of an
• 1:07:40
  update. Well, yeah, his voice doesn't even real
• 1:07:44
  like his voice lines and his voice are so cool
• 1:07:47
  compared to his character. Character. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:07:51
  especially compared to his kit. Like, yes. I
• 1:07:54
  think that Rat King is a perfect example of how
• 1:07:56
  the character kit can be simple and usable. Warden's
• 1:08:00
  kit is simple and usable and also just like kind
• 1:08:02
  of looks like crap. And anyways, whatever. Well,
• 1:08:06
  so from the from the again, we don't look at
• 1:08:08
  all the voice lines and all that stuff. We go
• 1:08:10
  off of what we know. And then we read the backstory
• 1:08:11
  and like we'll get into like voice lines, probably
• 1:08:13
  for like maybe another segment down the road.
• 1:08:15
  Yeah. But like one of the things two things.
• 1:08:18
  One is that all the backstories are written a
• 1:08:20
  little bit differently. Some of them are about
• 1:08:22
  the characters themselves. Some of them are about
• 1:08:24
  the world and like kind of the context for the
• 1:08:26
  character. And then some of them are like Deadman
• 1:08:29
  Danny's where it's just like a silly sales pitch
• 1:08:31
  that gives like flavor, but no background. This
• 1:08:34
  one is funny because like it gives actually a
• 1:08:35
  lot of background on the world of of deadlock.
• 1:08:39
  And then at the same time, it gives very little
• 1:08:42
  to him personally, other than that, he was just
• 1:08:44
  like. a fucking like bread from birth to be like
• 1:08:47
  a militant child soldier. And then we are. Also,
• 1:08:51
  by the way, this begs the question, how old is
• 1:08:53
  he? Because I was like over here thinking he's
• 1:08:55
  like 35, 40, 45, maybe even like up to 50. And
• 1:08:59
  then now I'm like, is this just like a really
• 1:09:01
  really advanced 18 year old with a big fat mustache
• 1:09:05
  and like just pumping with cortisol because he's
• 1:09:07
  like been told to be like, you have to fight
• 1:09:10
  all the supernatural stuff from. I mean, I would.
• 1:09:13
  Say just based on the Based on his voice. He's
• 1:09:18
  got to be like 38 at least right, but I mean
• 1:09:22
  it's I well the other part of it that's funny
• 1:09:25
  to me is that they I love that it's The parents
• 1:09:29
  his parents realized like they were like, oh
• 1:09:31
  everything we were told that was true and it's
• 1:09:33
  happening So now we have to create a child soldier
• 1:09:35
  like that's like yes. Yeah. Yeah, that's two
• 1:09:38
  sentences, by the way And then he's taking place
• 1:09:41
  in the ritual So like the question is like if
• 1:09:44
  he's because it says I'll reread the last sentence
• 1:09:47
  refusing to let the generation fall asleep on
• 1:09:50
  the job. The next generation fall asleep on the
• 1:09:52
  job. Worden was trained since birth to be a supernatural
• 1:09:56
  killing machine with one purpose, stopping the
• 1:09:59
  patrons from entering ever entering our world.
• 1:10:01
  So he's it's confusing because like you're like,
• 1:10:04
  what is his role in the ritual working on behalf
• 1:10:08
  of one of the patrons? if he doesn't ever want
• 1:10:11
  them to become real, right? Or enter our world,
• 1:10:14
  I mean. Yep. It's confusing. But I mean, also,
• 1:10:19
  he's a cop for some reason. I think that he is
• 1:10:24
  a bad character and they should remove him from
• 1:10:26
  the game. I think that's a little extreme. But
• 1:10:32
  I do think that they need that. I would I prefer
• 1:10:34
  it more if he was like actually like a real old
• 1:10:37
  fashioned, like old school New York cop who is
• 1:10:40
  like. maybe a little corrupt on the take, but
• 1:10:42
  had a good heart of gold or something like that.
• 1:10:45
  Or he's just purely virtuous instead of being
• 1:10:48
  like, it doesn't, it makes no sense for him to
• 1:10:50
  be a cop with that backstory. Dude, I really
• 1:10:54
  think that this is a Hal Jordan thing. I think
• 1:10:56
  that Hal Jordan's storyline, even from the comics
• 1:10:59
  is still that like he was - You mean John Stewart?
• 1:11:03
  John Stewart, yeah. So I think that John is,
• 1:11:05
  I think part of his thing is that he was like
• 1:11:07
  bred to be a Green Lantern, I could be wrong.
• 1:11:12
  I don't remember if that's part of the the comic
• 1:11:15
  books, but I mean, it's certainly part of the
• 1:11:17
  show. Yeah. Anyways, what they did is they were
• 1:11:20
  a hack for a show that came out two years later
• 1:11:22
  after they made the character clearly. I have
• 1:11:29
  another question for you about this. Yes. Yeah,
• 1:11:31
  please. Before we move on to our next segment
• 1:11:33
  is that he it like I don't understand the I'm
• 1:11:40
  like putting all the pieces together in the puzzle,
• 1:11:42
  right? he's obviously a cop he has like his ult
• 1:11:45
  is literally like siren right his uh he's dressed
• 1:11:49
  like a cop he has like the red light on him and
• 1:11:52
  and after all this i'm still like what is the
• 1:11:54
  role of these first of all one it turns out he
• 1:11:57
  is actually racist we've got warden is racist
• 1:12:00
  confirmed because it literally says he's anti
• 1:12:03
  -supernatural right and the roster is chocked
• 1:12:07
  full of a supernatural character. I mean, I think
• 1:12:10
  that this game sort of like because so actually,
• 1:12:14
  let me let me shout out another creator named
• 1:12:16
  Demar or Demarizen. I watched a video yesterday
• 1:12:20
  called Deadlock gets black representation right.
• 1:12:23
  And this video was incredible. It's also blowing
• 1:12:26
  up right now. Plus three hundred thousand views
• 1:12:29
  in three days. Great creator. Also, the thumbnail
• 1:12:34
  is great. It's it's Gabe Newell in like a like
• 1:12:38
  Da Shiki, which is just hilarious to me. But
• 1:12:40
  um, so anyways, he was talking about how it's
• 1:12:44
  a little bit like x men in this world where like,
• 1:12:47
  because the supernatural became such a thing,
• 1:12:49
  we don't really get a ton of what you would consider
• 1:12:52
  like normal 1920s racism like Wraith is Wraith
• 1:12:58
  is like, you know, the Godfather, right? Or she's
• 1:13:00
  like some kind of like Tony Soprano character.
• 1:13:03
  But she's a black woman. So in the 20s, how does
• 1:13:05
  that fucking Yeah, exactly. I mean, but so she
• 1:13:09
  like, there's a lot of good representation of
• 1:13:13
  the game, seemingly. I also think that a character
• 1:13:16
  like Warden, that's why I'm saying, in my headcanon,
• 1:13:21
  he's just racist, not just toward Ixians, which
• 1:13:25
  I think is like the the stand in for racism in
• 1:13:28
  the game. In my mind, he's just racist toward
• 1:13:30
  everybody. I did. I'm just like, I'm over here
• 1:13:34
  being like he's fighting a lonely war because
• 1:13:36
  this entire roster minus like one or two characters
• 1:13:39
  is supernatural or using supernatural powers
• 1:13:43
  in some way, obviously, to even participate.
• 1:13:45
  You know, there may be some characters that are
• 1:13:46
  exempt from that. But like you're going to have
• 1:13:49
  a thin list of like he is like it's funny. I
• 1:13:52
  almost want his voice lines to reflect that backstory
• 1:13:55
  more and make him be like, none of you should
• 1:13:58
  be here. Like, you know, stop. being like using
• 1:14:02
  spirits great talent. Sure. But that's what this
• 1:14:04
  is why he's a bad cop even in the context of
• 1:14:08
  whatever police officers would be doing in a
• 1:14:10
  supernatural world anyways, right? I mean, yeah,
• 1:14:12
  yeah. But the thing that kills me too is isn't
• 1:14:15
  he supernatural? He's clearly pulling down some
• 1:14:17
  he's an alchemist. He's a that's what they say.
• 1:14:20
  Although I would argue that, you know, does any
• 1:14:22
  of that make any fucking sense? And, you know,
• 1:14:24
  whatever. But like also, by the way, it is classically
• 1:14:26
  the line drawn in a lot of like fantasy to be
• 1:14:28
  like, oh, like, I'm OK with like potions and
• 1:14:31
  magic, but I'm not OK with these stinking dirty
• 1:14:34
  devils or whatever. Well, dude, I mean, so in
• 1:14:37
  twenty twenty six, alchemy can be sometimes fascist
• 1:14:42
  coded. So I think that this is all adding up
• 1:14:44
  now. This is all adding to me. the um all right
• 1:14:47
  well that that was a little bit of dead lore
• 1:14:50
  a little dead lore uh would you like to introduce
• 1:14:53
  the next segment i would love to let me just
• 1:14:57
  find and read what it is uh you've heard of are
• 1:15:02
  we gonna do this every week my goodness you've
• 1:15:06
  heard of mcgoonis what about My grunt is what
• 1:15:10
  about my what about my what about mmm. What about
• 1:15:15
  mama McGinnis? Yeah, my mommy McGinnis. Yep.
• 1:15:19
  Mom muscle mommy Guinness. Yeah. So anyways,
• 1:15:26
  it's a fuck Mary kill, but we've gotten rid of
• 1:15:30
  Marion and it's all about fucking and killing
• 1:15:33
  or as or as Omni would like to tell you. killin'
• 1:15:40
  and kissing on the cheeks. Is it who you want
• 1:15:42
  to lock lips with? That's what, in the original
• 1:15:45
  version of this, you said it's who you want to
• 1:15:47
  kill and who you want to lock lips with, because
• 1:15:49
  it's dead or locked. And then you added the merry
• 1:15:52
  -fuck -kill part after the fact. This whole thing
• 1:15:54
  came to me in a moment where I was like, dead?
• 1:15:57
  A diarrhea dream. in a Diary of Fever dream.
• 1:16:02
  I was like dead or locked. Locked lips. It sounds
• 1:16:06
  good to me. I mean, think of the podcast name.
• 1:16:09
  None of this stuff was like us really like reflecting
• 1:16:12
  on it. Well, so let me just say real quick before
• 1:16:15
  you tell us our characters, I want to point out
• 1:16:18
  that we did get into a bit of trouble with our
• 1:16:21
  last Dead or Locked because we went a little
• 1:16:23
  graphic and the algorithm, although we didn't
• 1:16:26
  get banned or the episode didn't get you know,
• 1:16:29
  delisted fully. It did get labeled for like shocking
• 1:16:32
  content and definitely was like hit algorithmically
• 1:16:36
  because of some of the stuff we were saying.
• 1:16:38
  So we're going to tone it. We're going to go
• 1:16:40
  back. I think that yarn, if you're okay with
• 1:16:42
  it, we'll go we'll keep it. You know, well, can
• 1:16:44
  I say, can I say a couple things that you'll
• 1:16:46
  have to bleep out? By all means. Okay. So it
• 1:16:50
  happened because we talked about now lips getting
• 1:16:54
  turned in really old. and also romantically embracing
• 1:16:58
  a robot. And so let me say those now stuff. Yeah,
• 1:17:03
  let me say that in a way now that hold on, this
• 1:17:05
  will be an exercise in trying to use euphemism
• 1:17:09
  instead. So so what I just said was, we got dinged
• 1:17:15
  for I don't know if I can even think of a way
• 1:17:18
  to talk about this without just saying what it
• 1:17:22
  is. Think I think that's I think it's we've made
• 1:17:25
  our we've made our point. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
• 1:17:27
  we went too far Okay, so dead or locked we've
• 1:17:33
  pre Spun the wheel and I have lash and dead man
• 1:17:38
  Danny Okay, I Again, I hate to do this every
• 1:17:43
  time but that's an easy one for me personally
• 1:17:48
  One of them is a live human being and the other
• 1:17:51
  one is not. No, that's not the answer I have.
• 1:17:53
  That's not the answer I have. The Lash, I'm a
• 1:17:56
  Bebop man. I think Lash belongs in a hole in
• 1:17:58
  the ground. Wow. I'm tired of Lash supremacy.
• 1:18:01
  I said this last time. I'll say it again. He's
• 1:18:04
  a handsome boy with lots of muscles and a big
• 1:18:07
  mustache. He's too full of himself. And he also
• 1:18:11
  is mean to my sweet robot boy and I will not
• 1:18:14
  let that stand. We were talking about Warden,
• 1:18:18
  who has a mustache. I'm just gonna say it. Deadman
• 1:18:21
  Danny has a mustache. I'm just gonna say it.
• 1:18:23
  The Lash kicked Dynamo's ass, and it was awesome.
• 1:18:26
  No. And the Lash has a mustache. There's three
• 1:18:29
  mustache characters. I was gonna say earlier
• 1:18:33
  that if I had to kiss Warden or Deadman Danny,
• 1:18:36
  I would rather kiss Deadman Danny. Now, logistically,
• 1:18:40
  that sounds horrible. But now that you're bringing
• 1:18:43
  Lash into it, I'm like, Lash is actually a handsome,
• 1:18:46
  handsome dude. Well, how can you kiss? How can
• 1:18:49
  you kiss what has no lips? You kiss him on the
• 1:18:51
  teeth, I guess. I don't know. Oh, God. But but
• 1:18:57
  I I think that personality wise, personality
• 1:19:01
  wise, and like just from my own personal being
• 1:19:04
  a bebop man, I don't want to pick lash with the
• 1:19:06
  more I think about having to kiss a skeleton,
• 1:19:09
  especially one with so much moxie. He's probably
• 1:19:12
  going to like uranium. He's gonna like uranium
• 1:19:15
  poison you or something by standing near him.
• 1:19:18
  OK, I'm rethinking my answer. I think that I
• 1:19:21
  am just going to have to kiss Flash and then
• 1:19:26
  just deal with the repercussions of my beloved
• 1:19:29
  bebop rejecting my friendship because I've kissed
• 1:19:32
  his mortal enemy because I don't think I could
• 1:19:36
  kiss Danceman Danny even if I wanted to. The
• 1:19:38
  idea of kissing an animated skeleton with no
• 1:19:41
  flesh. And a mustache, by the way, that's like
• 1:19:43
  in your face is so revolting. Yeah. That I he
• 1:19:47
  could be the I mean, now, again, personality
• 1:19:49
  wise, I think he seems all right now. Let's circle
• 1:19:52
  back. He's also with Fairfax Industries, who's
• 1:19:55
  like the evil corporation. So even more reason
• 1:19:58
  why I should not have even begun to consider
• 1:20:01
  him. And also, he's dangerous and like a fucking
• 1:20:04
  living undead crash test on me. So, yeah, despite
• 1:20:08
  all of that, I am going to unfortunately end
• 1:20:11
  up kissing Lash. Uh, because I don't want to,
• 1:20:15
  I don't have to engage with the rest of the outcome
• 1:20:18
  of going the other way. Uh, now do you want to
• 1:20:21
  know, do you want to know if you chose correctly?
• 1:20:24
  Uh, is there a right choice? Yes. Yeah. And there's
• 1:20:27
  prize money. All right. Oh, so, so you chose,
• 1:20:31
  you chose incorrectly because Jacob Lash wouldn't
• 1:20:33
  kiss you. Uh, okay. That's not how this game
• 1:20:37
  works. Jacob Lash is an asshole. And yes, that's
• 1:20:40
  right. Whereas the shill dead man Danny is He's
• 1:20:44
  gonna kiss anything. He'll kiss your ass. We'll
• 1:20:47
  kiss anything. Are we gonna get dinged for this
• 1:20:48
  you think? We're like we were joking about like
• 1:20:53
  we were like we're gonna have to start a patreon
• 1:20:54
  just so we can put our unedited clips on something
• 1:20:57
  so that we could just say whatever you want because
• 1:20:59
  I want to hold and I'll bleep this out but I
• 1:21:00
  want to I was like I wanted to do a whole bit
• 1:21:02
  where I'm just like dead me and Danny's getting
• 1:21:04
  in there and it's like Behind and like I can't
• 1:21:09
  I'm not gonna do that a whole bit. I'm just going
• 1:21:11
  to allude to it, but Yeah, dude. I look I like
• 1:21:15
  I'm all for consent. He should want the lash
• 1:21:17
  should want to kiss me But like for the sake
• 1:21:19
  of this premise where I think we're assuming
• 1:21:20
  that both these people They're like they're concerned.
• 1:21:24
  Am I more likely to catch like I'm a human being.
• 1:21:26
  I'm not a superhero I can't catch these people
• 1:21:28
  and and I'm not gonna make them kiss me. They
• 1:21:31
  have to want to kiss me What about this? What
• 1:21:33
  about this? Jacob lash and deadman Danny are
• 1:21:37
  one person in different Are you having diarrhea?
• 1:21:42
  No, no, no. Think about it. Think about it. Not
• 1:21:46
  a lot of mustache characters. They both have
• 1:21:48
  mustache. They're both high flying, right? You
• 1:21:52
  could argue they're both assholes. He's not pretty
• 1:21:54
  enough. Like if he was, if he was the like desiccated
• 1:21:57
  skeleton. No, no, no. Hear me out. He would take
• 1:22:01
  better care of himself, but his like clothes
• 1:22:03
  are all like ripped up and torn. He has no jewelry.
• 1:22:05
  Like if Lash was this animated skeleton, he'd
• 1:22:07
  be like blinged out and like polished to like
• 1:22:09
  a sheen. Maybe, yeah, yeah, maybe. I mean, he
• 1:22:13
  literally sparkles. I want to know what you think
• 1:22:17
  a muscular skeleton looks like. It's a skeleton
• 1:22:23
  with a muscle suit on. Nice. I mean, what does
• 1:22:27
  any of this shit look like? Like, look at Viscous.
• 1:22:29
  It's like, what's the Viscous' build? It's like
• 1:22:33
  you see those ads for people who wear compression
• 1:22:35
  shirts. Like that's to me viscous is like put
• 1:22:38
  a him in a compression shirt and all sudden he's
• 1:22:40
  jacked viscous, right? I want to buy one of those
• 1:22:43
  shirts where it has it has a It's like shapewear
• 1:22:46
  for men where it has fake muscles on the arms
• 1:22:48
  and then it like constricts your belly That's
• 1:22:52
  the kind of thing. I'm gonna start putting my
• 1:22:54
  money into Do you do you have a pick on a dead
• 1:22:59
  or locked? I probably just commit suey on a live
• 1:23:02
  myself and oh no more things. I have to bleep
• 1:23:05
  out No, no, those I very specifically didn't
• 1:23:09
  use the words that I could have used. So I there
• 1:23:14
  you go. Probably the human that is alive. I would
• 1:23:17
  do a good choice. Yeah. You're an arcade. I wouldn't.
• 1:23:21
  I don't want to say that the easiest decision
• 1:23:22
  I've ever made, but it certainly wasn't hard.
• 1:23:24
  Let's just say we're really using a randomizer
• 1:23:29
  stat locker dot gg slash random dash heroes.
• 1:23:32
  And these are what we got. And if I get If I
• 1:23:36
  get duplicates from previous weeks, I will not
• 1:23:40
  use them, I guess. But yeah, I mean, it's what
• 1:23:41
  happened last time. I just we just moved on to
• 1:23:43
  the next segment or the next collection of heroes.
• 1:23:46
  Right. Yes. Yes. What? So aside from that, what
• 1:23:50
  else are you playing? What's going on? What am
• 1:23:53
  I playing? Mean of the Hollow a little bit still
• 1:23:57
  watching Twin Peaks right now, which my partner,
• 1:24:03
  my girlfriend hates. She's a little more into
• 1:24:10
  like, I don't know that I would say like, normie
• 1:24:14
  type television, but I would say, like, better
• 1:24:19
  homes and gardens. Now like more in the world
• 1:24:22
  of like sitcom and that kind of stuff. We actually
• 1:24:25
  we started watching another sort of a sitcom
• 1:24:27
  me show that I did like two and a half men, two
• 1:24:33
  and a half men. She likes two and a half men.
• 1:24:34
  Not a huge fan myself. But What else do I enjoy
• 1:24:39
  being with her? And I think that the we both
• 1:24:46
  sit through some of each other's stuff. There's
• 1:24:50
  a scene in I mean that I do enjoy sitting. I
• 1:24:55
  just I know you're being sincere, but it's taking
• 1:24:57
  all my strength to not loving you love each other.
• 1:25:04
  No, but so I have like this is something that
• 1:25:07
  younger me never thought was a possibility. I
• 1:25:09
  have garnered kind of an interest in Big Bang
• 1:25:13
  Theory in a way that I never would have thought
• 1:25:15
  humanly possible for me as a very edgelord dumb
• 1:25:19
  individual. So but there was a scene in Twin
• 1:25:24
  Peaks where if anyone's watched the show, you
• 1:25:26
  might know about the Red Lodge or like the whatever
• 1:25:29
  the Red Room is. There is a scene where the show
• 1:25:33
  really goes into like existential like surreal
• 1:25:37
  horror that is such a left turn from anything
• 1:25:41
  that happens before it and as I'm watching this
• 1:25:43
  I'm experiencing what I would consider like spiritual
• 1:25:47
  euphoria like waves of it hitting me where I'm
• 1:25:51
  like this left turn is more left turny than any
• 1:25:54
  I've seen before like I'm literally basking in
• 1:25:57
  it I look over at her and she is like literally
• 1:26:00
  mouth agape just like Why are we watching this?
• 1:26:07
  By the way, that is a feeling I've had watching
• 1:26:09
  Twin Peaks with other people before, as it usually
• 1:26:11
  be being like, no, no, no. Trust me, it's weird,
• 1:26:13
  but it's good. And then I've never watched it.
• 1:26:15
  So I'm just like, I like David Lynch's other
• 1:26:16
  stuff. So I'm like, I should get around to watching
• 1:26:18
  this. And it's the class. It's the pairing of
• 1:26:21
  the autist and the schizo that makes us work.
• 1:26:24
  And I feel that she is the autist. And she's
• 1:26:27
  like, why are we watching this? And I'm like,
• 1:26:29
  it's going to blow your mind. I mean, that's
• 1:26:34
  better. I watched like, I sit down on the couch
• 1:26:36
  and I turn on videos of like this Chinese couple
• 1:26:41
  going through like markets for like two hours
• 1:26:43
  and just eating random Chinese street food. And
• 1:26:45
  they're like, they're Chinese from China. And
• 1:26:47
  that'll be like, it'll be like an AI over voiceover
• 1:26:49
  of being like, we're going to eat breakfast in
• 1:26:51
  Hebei province, like south of Beijing, famous
• 1:26:54
  for its spicy food. And then it's just like two
• 1:26:57
  hours of them making small talk and being like,
• 1:26:59
  oh, this soup is so good. And just like slurping
• 1:27:01
  on soup and then going to get bread and they're
• 1:27:03
  like, oh, this bread is so good. And they'd never
• 1:27:05
  say it. They never say a bad thing. And they'll
• 1:27:08
  sometimes be like, this bread is too soft or
• 1:27:10
  whatever, something like that where you're like,
• 1:27:11
  what the fuck does that even mean? This bread
• 1:27:13
  is too, this bread is too soft and crunchy and
• 1:27:15
  sweet and delicious. It's too bread. And, and
• 1:27:18
  then like, but like, you know, I like sit there
• 1:27:20
  and I watch all of it. And I'm just, of course,
• 1:27:22
  like the classic, like fucking the couch potato
• 1:27:25
  American be like, oh yeah, the bread's too soft.
• 1:27:28
  Hmm, steak too juicy, lobster too succulent.
• 1:27:31
  Yeah, exactly. Also, by the way, they're paying
• 1:27:33
  like five cents like USD for whatever. And I'm
• 1:27:36
  like, dude, I need to go to China. What the fuck
• 1:27:37
  am I doing? Yeah. My YouTube algorithm is so
• 1:27:44
  spoiled with just like, it's all just video essays
• 1:27:48
  and like deadlock clips at this point. Yeah,
• 1:27:52
  that's it. Well, we get I get like it'll be like
• 1:27:54
  it'll autoplay our own clips now that I'm like,
• 1:27:57
  I don't need to hear myself like, yeah, please
• 1:27:59
  coming up. But I also don't want to I also don't
• 1:28:02
  want to skip it and, you know, inside baseball.
• 1:28:04
  But like, I'm like, well, now I have to watch
• 1:28:06
  the whole thing because I don't want the algorithm
• 1:28:08
  to think that people don't like it. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:28:11
  Exactly. The no, I like I I've been watching
• 1:28:15
  the fucked up when I'm sad, which I currently
• 1:28:17
  I'm going through a period right now and I'm
• 1:28:18
  dealing with like some personal work stuff that
• 1:28:21
  sucks. And like, I just mainline YouTube garbage
• 1:28:25
  and it's like random videos, travel videos, going
• 1:28:28
  to other countries, eating food. I watch like
• 1:28:30
  people like doing like random, like three hour
• 1:28:34
  long videos. It's like you're talking about like
• 1:28:35
  breakdowns of like, you know, Croc from N64 or
• 1:28:38
  some random shit or whatever. Love it. Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  And just like, like, what interesting, weird
• 1:28:43
  coding mechanism did they use in Glover? Like,
• 1:28:46
  and then it's just that for, you know, and I
• 1:28:48
  just sit there. just drinking a seltzer water,
• 1:28:51
  just like catatonic as it like flashes into my
• 1:28:54
  eyes after my kids go to sleep. And then I eventually
• 1:28:57
  dissociate into nothingness and I go to sleep.
• 1:29:00
  And yeah, if you looked at my YouTube, probably
• 1:29:03
  could directly tell exactly how depressed I am
• 1:29:05
  at any given week based off of my conception
• 1:29:08
  of those things. So but I, you know, it's those
• 1:29:12
  things are amazing and I love the people who
• 1:29:14
  make them. So yeah, I find that my My interest
• 1:29:20
  in deadlock sort of is cyclical where like this
• 1:29:23
  last week wasn't like a massive man I played
• 1:29:26
  games probably like even once or two a day, but
• 1:29:29
  like I wasn't like in a mood to just like You
• 1:29:32
  know yeah, and I think also it's part of um It's
• 1:29:36
  part of how much content just came out like yeah,
• 1:29:39
  it's a lot Yeah, and we talked about this last
• 1:29:41
  week. Maybe but like it's almost exhausting so
• 1:29:43
  it's like you kind of you take it in and then
• 1:29:45
  you you move away from it and you come back to
• 1:29:48
  it and Who knows, I might be more interested
• 1:29:50
  in like grinding ranked this week. I'm not really
• 1:29:52
  sure yet. So yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  Well, that I think covers it for Dadlock. I I
• 1:30:02
  think that we're in a good place and I'm excited
• 1:30:03
  to see where it goes. And I think it's a nice
• 1:30:05
  like I think we're getting a nice little breather
• 1:30:06
  until they change stuff for like the next rank
• 1:30:09
  season and everyone gets to just chill out and
• 1:30:11
  then we'll go from there. And it feels good.
• 1:30:13
  Yes, I'm interested to get into what I would
• 1:30:16
  consider a more serious ranked time. It's not
• 1:30:19
  like you can't rise, but like it's so much of
• 1:30:23
  this specific time feels like you have to do
• 1:30:26
  the meta crap and not even like meta meta, but
• 1:30:30
  like there are just certain characters that feel
• 1:30:32
  absolutely unwinnable to play or like you have
• 1:30:36
  to get carried by somebody else. And then there's
• 1:30:38
  others where it's like, well, Whoever has Baba
• 1:30:41
  or Hayes on their team at least in my elo just
• 1:30:44
  kind of takes the game unless you Can get your
• 1:30:47
  whole team to counter by them. So I'm excited
• 1:30:49
  for the next ranked season. We'll see what happens
• 1:30:52
  Yeah, sounds good. And then just I'll add in
• 1:30:54
  before we go that uh, as always like I just like
• 1:30:58
  the eighth time I've said as always You can tell
• 1:31:01
  my brain is like misfiring as always We have,
• 1:31:07
  obviously, we're on all the platforms for podcasting.
• 1:31:10
  We have a Discord and all that stuff, and we're
• 1:31:13
  on YouTube as well and TikTok. Feel free to comment
• 1:31:16
  and send us any emails or questions you have,
• 1:31:18
  dadlock .podcast at gmail .com. You can also,
• 1:31:22
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• 1:31:25
  send us a voicemail, if you want to send us a
• 1:31:26
  voicemail, and have anything interesting to say,
• 1:31:29
  or you have stories about playing or anything
• 1:31:31
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• 1:31:34
  You just want to start bombard us with your spam.
• 1:31:37
  And yeah, we appreciate you guys and we'll see
• 1:31:40
  you next time. So as always, dads never really
• 1:31:43
  say goodbye. They just leave to go get whatever
• 1:31:45
  they need, which right now for me is I need elbow
• 1:31:48
  grease. Oh, yeah. I need some methylphenidate.
• 1:31:52
  What is the government going to come after us
• 1:31:54
  now or whatever? He needs the methylphenidate
• 1:31:58
  and the elbow grease together. They make something
• 1:32:00
  horrifying. Well, we're gonna go out the door
• 1:32:04
  and we'll see you on the other side. Alright,
• 1:32:07
  not saying goodbye. Nope. Well, except for when
• 1:32:09
  I say goodbye. Bye bye!