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Terminello's Take Previews the 2025 NFL Season (recorded 9-3-25) · OneLegUpAlex Media

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  Speaker 1: Here's your host, Alex Garrett.
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  Speaker 2: It's another week. We haven't talked to my next guest
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks already, which is kind of
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  Speaker 2: wild because we always do a weekly take. But Termindello's take,
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  Speaker 2: you had time with family. I've been running around doing
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  Speaker 2: twelve different jobs at my radio, Jeb, and here we
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  Speaker 2: are finally reconnecting to celebrate our fourth year coming up
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  Speaker 2: of Terminello's take.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is pretty amazing, Alex. Thank you as always,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for the last four years, give me the
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  Speaker 1: opportunity to speak with with you and something you know
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  Speaker 1: I enjoy, so looking forward to it. And as I
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  Speaker 1: say in politics, four more years, maybe four more years
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  Speaker 1: after that, so.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're you're you are you are. There are
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  Speaker 2: no term limits to Terminello's take.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's great, thank you, I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 2: So that being said, I remember that first conversation about
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  Speaker 2: Gil Hodges when they put him in the Hall of
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  Speaker 2: Fame and what a day that was. And after that
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  Speaker 2: hour long conversation, it clicked in my brain. Low, we
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  Speaker 2: got to do this more often than we have week
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  Speaker 2: after week.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, you know we talk about a little
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  Speaker 1: different types of sports. We talk about the history of sports,
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  Speaker 1: which I love to talk about, the history on anything sports.
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  Speaker 1: It fits right in. So, uh, you know, let's let's
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  Speaker 1: let's get it going. I mean, with the NFL season
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  Speaker 1: starying tomorrow night, exciting times, the baseball season and its
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  Speaker 1: stretch run. In a couple of weeks, the hockey and
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  Speaker 1: basketball team leagues will be going to training camp. So
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  Speaker 1: we've got a lot of stuff coming on.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, we absolutely do. And I mean I want to
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  Speaker 2: start because we have a lot of hockey fans that listen.
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  Speaker 2: I scrolling, so for me before we start, and I
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  Speaker 2: see Scott Gohman is in a Ranger jersey. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: know more of the devil guy. Okay. I actually held
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  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup with him in George stebert Or suite.
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  Speaker 2: He was at one end of the cup at the
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  Speaker 2: bottom and I was the top holding the cup at
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  Speaker 2: the top of it was quite a moment.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But he's in the US Hall of Fame. So give
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  Speaker 2: us a little lesson here. I want to met to
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  Speaker 2: the NHL Hall of Fame and the US Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: Well, obviously, the US Hall of Fame is for people
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  Speaker 1: who have contributed to the development and greatness of hockey
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  Speaker 1: in the United States. And Scott Domes, who comes from
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  Speaker 1: the forty nine state from Alaska, obviously he was an
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  Speaker 1: outstanding Devil. And I will never forget the day that
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  Speaker 1: signed Gomez who Lou Lamarello, who's also in the US
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  Speaker 1: Hockey Hall of Fame, is very close to Gomez, and
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  Speaker 1: he actually made them the Islanders a power play coach,
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  Speaker 1: and when Lou took over, the Devil the Islanders. But
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  Speaker 1: I'll never forget the day that he signed with the Rangers.
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  Speaker 1: I believe it was for seven million dollars a year.
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  Speaker 1: I was in a conference room with two or three
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  Speaker 1: of my colleagues and Lou, who's never late for a meeting,
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  Speaker 1: was a little bit late that day and he came
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  Speaker 1: in and he apologized and he said, I am not
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  Speaker 1: paying Scott go my seven million dollars a year. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was seven million dollars a year for seven years.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously Scott Gomers did not have the Ranger career
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  Speaker 1: that he had as a Devil career.
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  Speaker 2: So by that time he was a little older. Let's
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  Speaker 2: be honest, he was a little older at that point,
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  Speaker 2: and he had had all his success as a devil.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he won two or three Cups
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  Speaker 2: there with them.
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  Speaker 1: He was an outstanding player. I mean, but lou you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know how lou Is once he once he put
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  Speaker 1: you know, he draws the line to saying he's not
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  Speaker 1: going over it. And I'll remember, I remember that day.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right, Louie. There is an NFL season upon us,
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  Speaker 2: and we can talk about ANHL later. That's over a
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  Speaker 2: month away, which I can't believe how fast time's going.
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  Speaker 2: But Louie, the New York posts they saying the future
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  Speaker 2: is bright for both the Jets and the Giants, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I hear that every
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  Speaker 2: year with these teams. But but there's something in the air.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's the new coaching Steff the Jets. Maybe it's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the infusion Jackson Dart has given in his reps.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's just this fire under both teams that I'm
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  Speaker 2: not felt in a little while. Are you feeling that
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  Speaker 2: same fire yet?
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  Speaker 1: Or no, Well you're much younger than me and I
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  Speaker 1: have gone through more Jets torture then you've had to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel it, Alex, I mean, I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: I love Aaron Glenn as a player. He was a
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  Speaker 1: terrific Jet player. But the Jets have a new coach,
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  Speaker 1: they got a new GM, they have a new quarterback,
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  Speaker 1: a new offensive philosophy. I do think they have a
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  Speaker 1: solid roster. I am not a big fan of the
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  Speaker 1: new quarterback justin fields, but he is the most athletic
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  Speaker 1: person to play a quarterback position in Jets history. So
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  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see if they can put all together. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: while they do have a solid roster, they're a little
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  Speaker 1: short in some areas. They need a number two receiver.
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  Speaker 1: They might be a little short on some linebacking talent.
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  Speaker 1: But they suffered a major injury today with Elijah Vera Tucker,
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  Speaker 1: their right guard, likely being out for the season what
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  Speaker 1: looks like a torn bicep. Conflicting reports on which arm
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  Speaker 1: it is, but doesn't matter. He was going to start
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  Speaker 1: at right tackle. He's a tremendous player. He's in his
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  Speaker 1: fifty year. He's a free agent at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the year. The Jets game in the fifty year option.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he will ever see him play again
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  Speaker 1: because they're not going to give him a big contract
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the year. He's had injuries in
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  Speaker 1: the past, but when he played, he was an outstanding
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  Speaker 1: He was their best lineman. And it's a double whammy
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  Speaker 1: because he was going to play right guard and Armond Membo,
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  Speaker 1: their number one draft pick out of Missouri's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: their right tackle. And having if you're a Tucker next
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  Speaker 1: to Membo gave them gave gives Membo a little confidence,
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  Speaker 1: a little security there because they were building a good
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. So what they're gonna do is, in all likelihood,
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna move Joe Tipman, who was their center.
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  Speaker 2: I think.
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  Speaker 1: I think they're gonna move into one of the guard positions.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna keep John John Simpson
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  Speaker 1: and left guard or move him to to right guard
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  Speaker 1: or vice versa, and Josh Myers, who they signed as
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  Speaker 1: a free agent, will be the starting center. Alex I
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  Speaker 1: think the Jets. The Jets are gonna run the ball
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  Speaker 1: more than they have since the days of Rex Ryan,
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  Speaker 1: which I have no problem with, but still, this is
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  Speaker 1: a passing league.
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  Speaker 2: Especially because their own quarterback is a runner. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: let's just face that Justin Fields can run up that
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  Speaker 2: field like nobody's business and I gotta ask you this, Louie.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, the brief fields backfield is gonna be
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  Speaker 2: very interesting. Eron Glen was defensive coordinator against the lines.
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  Speaker 2: He had a face field twice every year for the
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  Speaker 2: last couple of years. He might have picked up on
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  Speaker 2: some things and can coach him a little differently having
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  Speaker 2: picked up on it on the defensive side on the ball.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, obviously he says, I'm coaching the entire team.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, sometimes when these defensive coaches or offensive coaches,
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  Speaker 1: they only want to coach, They only coach one side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball, and that's that's a detriment to the team.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn said on day one, I'm I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be the coach of the entire team, and I do
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  Speaker 1: believe that. And then we'll see how good he is
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  Speaker 1: starting a Sunday when he has to face fourth and
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  Speaker 1: one with you know, ten minutes to go in a
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  Speaker 1: game from midfield. Does he punt? Does he does he
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  Speaker 1: go for it? You know, what's he gonna call block management?
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  Speaker 1: We don't know those things yet. I still think the
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  Speaker 1: Jets have a pretty good roster. I don't think it's like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a teardown. I'm not as optimistic as
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  Speaker 1: some other people are, but uh, you know they have
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  Speaker 1: they have a tough game, but a winnable game on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: And that's against Ben against Rogers and the Steelers. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you can't make this story up.
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  Speaker 1: You cannot make this story up. You are right.
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  Speaker 2: But I want to give credit to Jake Asmond, who's
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  Speaker 2: actually starting up a new show on Sundays.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: As maniacs are gonna get to listen to him every
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  Speaker 2: Sunday morning on ESPN Radio New York. How cool is that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's funny. Uh, I subscribe to his podcast. I
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: don't want on his podcast so long, but uh, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I got the alert this morning that he
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  Speaker 1: you know, he came on early this morning to talk
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  Speaker 1: about and and announce the the injury to Elijah Via Tucker.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: He knows Jets, obviously, he's a diehard Jet guy, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it's it's I'll listen to him on Sunday morning.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of good Jet podcasters out there,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, but uh, it's a blow Via Tucker is
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  Speaker 1: a blow even before the Via Tucker injury, Alex I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I still think that they were going
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  Speaker 1: to They'll be drafting in the top ten next next year,
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  Speaker 1: so I think they might win more than a five
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  Speaker 1: and a half games that that Vegas says they will,
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  Speaker 1: but seven six, I don't think. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that they're going to uh uh. It's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting year.
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  Speaker 2: I really don't well, and the homecoming for Glenn is
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: kind of a big storyline here. But also I feel
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: like I don't know, maybe I'm going off on them
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  Speaker 2: saying this, but Bowles didn't really have much of a
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  Speaker 2: pedigree going into this SALEA didn't really have much. Glenn
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  Speaker 2: has pedigree. He's been at the helm of in a
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff, that's one, and I think there's some pedigree
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  Speaker 2: to him.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think that that's are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be physical and I think they're gonna be aggressive because
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: obviously he was mentored by Bill Parcells. He was the
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  Speaker 1: cornerback on the Jets when Parcels was the coach of
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  Speaker 1: the Jets, and I know he talks to Parcels on
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  Speaker 1: a regular basis, So I think that's that's a plus.
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  Speaker 1: I just can't see it happening this year. You still
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  Speaker 1: need the difference making teams have the quarterback, and hopefully
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is the year. This is his fifties, This
• 10:31
  Speaker 1: is his third team in five years, which is in
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  Speaker 1: a good which isn't a good indictment on on Justin
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  Speaker 1: Field's ability to be an NFL quarterback. But maybe this
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  Speaker 1: is the year he turns it around and he reaches
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  Speaker 1: his potential. He's not been an accurate thrower. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what they can do to help him become a
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  Speaker 1: better thrower. We'll see, obviously, as you know, as I'm
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: a big time Jets fan and nothing would like me
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  Speaker 1: to see that. They they turned it around in year
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  Speaker 1: one under under coach Glenn So we'll see. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I I think I think the first month is gonna
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  Speaker 1: be tough, I really do. I mean, after after Pittsburgh
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  Speaker 1: at home, they have Buffalo at home. They'll be heavy
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  Speaker 1: underdogs to them, uh, you know, and then they have
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  Speaker 1: they go to Tampa Bay. I think Tampa Bay is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be very good this year. I think they'll win
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  Speaker 1: the South for a fifth straight year. Uh. And then
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  Speaker 1: they play in Miami on a Monday night, So Sunday's
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: game is key for them to win as far as
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: the team psyche goes and team building and and I
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  Speaker 1: hate to use this term that every sports coach uses
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: changing the culture. The only way you change the culture,
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  Speaker 1: Alex is if you went on a consistent basis. That's
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  Speaker 1: how you changed the culture.
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  Speaker 2: So I some think they have the tools. Look, the
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  Speaker 2: Rogers Wilson did not mesh as well, but I think
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  Speaker 2: the Fields Wilson will be very interesting to watch. I
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: think you gotta lean on Garrett Wilson here a lot
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  Speaker 2: and let him get the reps, let him get the targets.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe that was the thing last year. They didn't give
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  Speaker 2: Hi enough targets.
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  Speaker 1: I think was one of the Gary Wilson had enough
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  Speaker 1: targets last year. I mean, that wasn't the issue. The
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  Speaker 1: issue last year and we I hate the reesa well
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  Speaker 1: in thirty seconds. The issue last year was that they
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: got off to the bad start, Solid did a bad
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: job getting them ready. Then a knee jerk reaction by
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: Woody Johnson, and I don't blame him. The loss to
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  Speaker 1: Denver was abominable. Then they lose in London, and he
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: has a lot of friends in London and Minnesota. Knee
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  Speaker 1: jerk reaction. He got rid of solid, which was fine
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  Speaker 1: because I would not have done it until the end
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  Speaker 1: of the year. But then he put Jeff Woolbrick in,
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  Speaker 1: who couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag,
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  Speaker 1: and the defense let down and that was it.
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  Speaker 2: The rest is now that guy was in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a Shador Sanders controversy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just well, that was that was his so.
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  Speaker 2: You know so.
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  Speaker 1: But again, if you can't control his son, how is
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  Speaker 1: he going to control an NFL team?
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  Speaker 2: Exactly the point now I want to go back to
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get to the Giants in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: you mentioned both sides of the ball, and I want
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  Speaker 2: to go back to that story he broke which came true.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: Travis Hunter number two to Jacksonville. Is that not a
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: cool story to look out for? It? See if he
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  Speaker 2: can actually do both sides of the ball. I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember a guy that can do that in recent memory.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he has the talent to do both, and god knows,
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  Speaker 1: Jacksonville probably needs his talent on both sides of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know when Ruth of the NFL with this, well, again,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be interesting to see how Jacksonville handles him.
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  Speaker 1: He says he can play every play on both sides
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  Speaker 1: of the ball. If he can, God bless him. But
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  Speaker 1: this is not the Big Twelve. This is the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, I I don't know why they're gonna play more,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously we'll find out beginning this week. He's an
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  Speaker 1: incredible talent and uh, I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Dion Sanders is as a coach in his own in
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  Speaker 2: his own way. Not many coaches think like him to
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  Speaker 2: use a guy on both sides of the ball. So
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  Speaker 2: there's that too.
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  Speaker 1: But well, the deon Sanders was a great obviously a
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Fame defensive back, an incredible kick returner, and
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: uh he was, and he was a very very good
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver. That uh that that both San Diego San Diego,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: San Francisco and and Dallas Hughes used him. Uh uh
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  Speaker 1: you know as a as a wide receiver. So we'll see.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how that develops with with Travis Hunter. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: I think the New England Patriot are going to be
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: a surprise team.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, Drake may If you watch some of his film
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  Speaker 2: last year, he shows potential. I've he he was giving
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: them some good drives down the stretch in some of
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  Speaker 2: those games. It just fell a little short. But he
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  Speaker 2: has a lot of potential.
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  Speaker 1: I think obviously with Mike Rabel there as in his
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  Speaker 1: first year, and I think the development of Drake May
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and they drafted Travian Henderson from Ohio State in the
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  Speaker 1: second round. The guy's going to be great in the NFL. Alex,
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  Speaker 1: the guy's going to be a great running back. It
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: was a great college back. He's going to be a
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  Speaker 1: great NFL back. I think. Obviously the Patriots don't have
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: a playoff fifty three man roster, but there I think.
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  Speaker 1: And I am not obviously as a Jets fan. I
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: am not a Patriot backer in any way, shape or format.
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  Speaker 1: As always, I look at things objectively. I think the
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Patriots are going to the arrows pointing up for the
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Patriots this year, and I think, and I think the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: arrow's pointing down for the Dallas Cowboys.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's that whole thing. And now comes out
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  Speaker 2: that maybe he was he's injured, that's why they traded him.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot going on with that, with
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  Speaker 2: that trade. But I do find it funny, Lou, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Giants don't face him twice, but of course he
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: lands on the team that they still have to face
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  Speaker 2: this year. I've met Life Stadium, I mean, of all
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  Speaker 2: of all of the odds of all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's one of those quirks in the schedule
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  Speaker 1: that you know happens. I think green Bay is gonna
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: be very good. I thought green Bay was gonna be
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: very good before they got Michael Parsons. And if parsons
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: neck injury isn't as bad, or that it's not a
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: neck injury, excuse me? Is that shoulder joint injury? If
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: that's not something that lingers all year? And we still
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna play Sunday at home against Detroit,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: which is a humongous opening game at Lambeau, the four
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  Speaker 1: to twenty five game on CBS. I like the Packers.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: I like the Packers a lot. I mean, the NFC
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: North is loaded. The NFC North is loaded, and the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: AFC West has loaded. Those are the two, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: two incredibly tough divisions in the NFL for twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be in an interesting year. Minnesota, with
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy as a quarterback, did they make a mistake
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: in not re signing Sam Donald after he had that
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: great year last year. Donald now in Seattle with a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: team that has a great defense. It's gonna be interesting
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: to see what Seattle what Seattle does. I think they're
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: gonna be very good. So I'm all rammed up for
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: this twenty twenty five season, and we haven't talked about
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: the Giants yet. I do think this is a make
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: or break year for the Joe Shane Brian dave Ole combination.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: They will get better quarterback play this year, unless Russell
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Wilson loses it, don't. I don't think he's done. I
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: don't think he's at a super Bowl level, but I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: think he's He's better than the quarterback play the Giants
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: had last year. And then, of course, the big key
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: is when do they insert Jackson Dart into play this year?
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: If they get off to a good start and they're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: like five and two, what do you do they gotta
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: get They really want to see Jackson dark play this year,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: I assume, But does he send the whole year? If
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: to Giants are better than we thought. I also think
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna pick They're gonna be a top
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: ten A top twelve draft team. Again, the strength of
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: the team is their defensive line. It could be one
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: of the great defensive lines in the NFL. You'll probably
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: have the defensive rookie of the year in the NFL
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: in Abduu Carter, who's a can't miss prospect, and he
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: had an outstanding camp. So we'll see.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: I still think, even though they have the experience of
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Russell and yet the darts in there and and of
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: course jamis that they're not gonna be in even the
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: top ten of you know, they're not gonna have a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: winning record. It sounds like from from I do.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Not think they're gonna have a winning record. I think
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: they'll be seven and at best they'll be seven and ten,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: eight nine. That could change. And I'll tell you why
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: they're playing in Washington this week. Washington, from what people
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: tell me, had a bad training camp. Not in the games,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: who cares about the exhibition games, but their training camp
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: but was a little disjointed. McLaren was out. Yeah, they
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: signed him. I don't think that's a big deal. But
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: Washington came out of nowhere and they were twelve and
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: five last year. Daniels was spectacular. Now they've had a
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: chance to look at the film. These defensive coaches have
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: looked at film all summer on Jaden Daniels, So they're
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: gonna nobody's perfect. Nobody, no quarterback, no player, no right tackle,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: no center, no receiver, no no cornerback. And these coaches
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: look at film and a dissect film. And as soon
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: as the schedule came out, I'm sure all the Giant
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: coaches were looking at Washington film. I think the Giants
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't kick the Giants on Sunday. I
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: think they have a chance Sunday. I do think they
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: have a better chance in Dallas. Dallas has to prove
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: it to me that they're not in the dumper. They
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: have to prove that to me. So I think the
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Giants might be more organized, it might be better. It
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: may not show in the record because they do play,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: based on last year's data, the fourth toughest schedule in
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: the league. But I think they have a chance in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: these first two games. Then they come home on a
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Sunday night for their home opener against Kansas City. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: while everybody's saying that, oh the Chiefs are, you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna take a step back Alex. You
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: know me, never underestimate the heart of a champion. And
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: they still have that great defense, and they still have
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and Mahomes are gonna be ticked off that that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: they got absolutely annihilated by the Philadelphia Eagles, who are
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: the best team in the league going in by a
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: good margin. Uh. You know people saying after winning the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: AFC West nine years in a row that they're not
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: gonna win it this year. Well, maybe they won't. The
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: AFCST is hard, very hard. But I'm not going against
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So but I think the Giants are gonna
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: be you know, the Giants have some they have some
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: skilled players. I think their running game will be decent.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: A big question mark is Andrew Thomas' health. We haven't
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: gotten a clear definition on how healthy he is. He's
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: as important to the Giants as Vera Tucker is to
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the Jets, and uh, you know, we'll we'll, we'll see.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: Should they be better? Yeah? Do they need to get
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Jackson guard in there to see if he really is
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the real deal? I guess. I guess it all depends
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: on how the season's going. Let's face this, Giants surprise
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: everybody and they're six and two. You can't pot guard
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in there, you know, No, no, you can't.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: You gotta stick with Russ.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about a borderline Hall of Fame quarterback,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a guy who won a Super Bowl in the Meadowlands
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: against Denver and came within one yard of winning another
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a quarterback against New England. It's gonna
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see how Dabel jugles the quarterback position.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But I mean, I think I think Wilson is going
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to be good. I mean he's I think it's gonna
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: be okay.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Oh no, I think Russell Wilson has a sort of
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: found rejuvenation too. So we'll have to see what happens.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: But again, again, the Giants have given Dable the tools.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Shane's given Dable the tools. It is his make or
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: break year. I know we keep saying this, but I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: really feel it this year.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And again, remember, like I said, they have they
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: have good skill position players and uh you know neighbors.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Now he has a real quarterback thrown to him this year,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: so it should be it should be good. The running
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: game is should be good. Their running backs are deep
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Scatterbo from Arizona State, I loved him at Arizona State.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: They got him in the fourth round a steal. In
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: my opinion, I think he's gonna be very good. He'll
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: be a fan favorite. He runs over people, he plays hard,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: his the way he plays is infectious to teammates. So
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: it's this is is this a this is a better
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: roster than last year. It's not even close. And maybe
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: they'll surprise everybody. Maybe they will go nine and eight.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: And you know, Laurie, I just say the defensive side
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: of the ball is going to be promising. I want
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: to see more from from Burns. I think he did
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: okay last year, but he could do way more this year.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So we'll have to see how that goes. And of
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: course I'm thinking of the other storylines of the NFL
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: this year. What I could think of is obviously the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Bills are always one that's fascinating to me because Alan
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: still in his prime. You talk about the Chiefs, uh,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: you know, not not giving up. The Bills aren't gonna
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: give up either. I mean they're they're still got a
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: good prime here. For how it's his year too, He's
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: got to break through here.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and it's I mean not only him he's
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he has broken through. He needs his teammates to break through,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and he can only carry him on his back so long.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: If Allen was on the Chiefs, he would have already
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: won his Super Bowl. Yeah. So I think the Bills
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: are gonna easily win a division. They're gonna easily win
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the AFC East.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: The Jets. While I think the Patriots will improve, they're
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: not gonna They're not gonna be within a sniff of
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: winning the AFC East. Like I said, I think the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Jets are gonna be picking the top ten again. I
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: hope I'm wrong, And I think the Dolphins are gonna
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: have a difficulty, let's put it that way. I really do.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: All right, we haven't even talked baseball yet, but I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: just so enthroned with this because, as you know, I've
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: been watching preseason football a little more. This year just
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: been an intriguing thing for me. And I have to
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: say the other storyline for me, and I'm a you know,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: my dad was a Bear fan, so of course on
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the U. But the the complete uh what do you say,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: not destruction, but you know, you know, the falling apart
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of the coaching exaff for the Lions and how they
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: rebuild from that. That's gonna be interesting to watch, isn't it.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Oh it is when you lose coordinators that can set
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you back a year.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: A lot of people say it's not gonna affect the Lions.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's not, but it'll be. It's
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting look. Especially they gotta play Minnesota twice.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: They gotta play Ben Johnson, their old offensive coordinator twice.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: With the Bears, they gotta play the Packers twice. Yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I think that I think that's a factor. I do.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: I do think that could be a factor. And Campbell's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a terrific coach and they have terrific team. But uh
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, the cordina is not being not being on
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the sideline or up or up in the coach's box. Yes, Alex,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I agree with you. It will be. It will be
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: intriguing to see how how they react on both sides
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of the ball this year.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: And then I think of her, you know, Herbert and
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: and Harball. How that matchups, how that relationship is going
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: to be this year. I mean, we've how did that?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: It kind of fell flat last year, but but well
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: That first it was their first year, and I think,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you mean to cut you off, Alex. I
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: think the Chargers are going to be a major player
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: this year. They did lose their they did lose Slater
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: in training camp, in the training camp where it tore
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: is uh his knee and he's out for the year.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: That's a huge blow. That's he protected Herbert's blind side.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: But I think the Chargers are going to be very
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: very good. They they're a Super Bowl contender.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Uh No, very interesting because I want to see that
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: out of them. I haven't seen that side of them yet,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: but we'll have to see. And Herbert's another one of
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: those guys that's on that fringe of elite, but he's
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: not there yet. Maybe Harborough will get him there. You know,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: he's he's one of those highly tauted quarterbacks for sure.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: What else, Louis I mean when some of the NFL,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: what else comes to mind? I mean, I'm also thinking
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: about Pete carrollback coaching the Raiders, and boy, they need
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: a change of pace out there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to close up the NFL segment,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and obviously we'll be talking a lot about the NFL
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: the next four months, four or five months. I think
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the Panthers might be a little bit better, might feel
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit better this year. A little New Orleans
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: is a question mark. But I think the Panthers, the Saints,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the Browns, maybe the Jets, I hope not, are all
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: going to be in the running for whoever the top
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: quarterback is going to come out of the draft. And
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: before we get to talk baseball, well, let's just talk
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: real quickly about the first weekend of college football, the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: first real weekend of college football. It did not live
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: up to the hype, and the Texas Ohio State game
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: was boring, defensive struggle. Arch Manning looked like a guy
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: in his first game against a real good team. I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: know we saw two games last year. He nervous. He
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: was when he dropped back to pass. He was thinking
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: run first almost on every pass dropback. Alex and Sarkisian
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: and the Texas offensive coaches tried to give him some
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: easy passes to first play the game. They tried to
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: They had him throw a little swing pass and he
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: threw it in the dirt. So he was nervous. He'll
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: get better. I'm not going to react and say that
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: he's you know that he's a bust or anything like that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: But the first weekend of college football was nothing special.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, the Notre Dame Miami game at the end
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: was a little exciting, but that was it. LSU and Clemson.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: I thought Clemson when win the game going in and
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: a big win for Brian Kelly.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: So so we'll see. I know, and Brian Kelly always
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: seems to run his mouth a little bit, but I'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: tell you I'm still bitter about the way he left
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame, but hey, he got a big win over
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the weekend, and the Belichick era people say it's not
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: going to be that way every week. I'm not convinced
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: that yet. Look, I think I think it's true. People
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: were thrusting this idea of you and c revitalizing his
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: football program under Belichick. It's not going to take a
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: day Louis.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Well, especially when you bring it over seventy players playing
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: on the team for the first time. Now, I expect
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: them to be as bad as they were on Monday night,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: where I mean, you couldn't get a more butt kicking
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: than the tar Heels took the other night. Do I
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: think they'll be more competitive? Yes, Obviously Belichick was embarrassed
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Monday Night on National TV. He is not going to
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: let that continue to happen. But as you said, it's
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: not gonna happen in one year. And they brought in
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: seventy new players. Dion tried that when he went from
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Jackson State to Colorado. He brought all these new guys,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: sixty seventy new guys. They went four and eight that
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: first year. That might be the same thing with with
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick. But they're gonna, I mean, they they
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: should be okay, they should be competitive going forward.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: We'll have to see. You know, we're actually talking on
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: the anniversary of his first Patriot game that he coached
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: twenty five years ago today, So how about that, Yeah,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the Jets, but I mean, Lugi, he had that one day.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: As with the Jets, I know that lives in your
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: memory forever, Louis.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: It does because it would have and the Jets had
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a very good team and that would have that might
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: have changed that history. But again we'll talk Jet history
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: another day.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this thing, springham At, Let's
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: talk about your Mets, because answer me this. You go
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: three out of three against Philly, you lose three out
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: of four and then one of the best teams in
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: the AL you beat two out of three.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Hard to figure. It's hard to figure. I mean, alex
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: since August first, they have been crushing a baseball and
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in those thirty games, thirty one games since August first,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: including today's loss to the Tigers, they're thirteen and eighteen.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: They've they've scored four runs or more in sixteen games
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: that they've lost, and that can't happen. I'm worried about
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: the pitching staff. They do not have a World Series
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: caliber pitching staff at this time. You know, Nolan McLain
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: has given this very shaky starting pitching staff the positive
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: lift that that they were looking for in his first
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: four starts. The kid's been tremendous. But can I continue
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the last three and a half weeks of the season
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and into the playoffs. And Jonah Tong was good on
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: on Friday Night, But I.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Know, and I gotta plug Mendoza for getting in through
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: that fifth because he was at ninety one pitches and
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: you know, of that next batter got on, he would
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: have not been eligible for I think they were gonna
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: take him out right after that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Back I think you're right. I think you're right. I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: think Sean Maniya and Cardi Singer are not healthy. I mean,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: you go back to the that date that we all
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: look at, especially for this baseball season, this date always
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: pops up June thirteenth. Well on June twelfth, when Alonso
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: made that terrible throat to Sanga and he pulled the hamstring,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and up until that point, Sanga was lights out. And
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: I was watching the s n Y pregame interview on
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Sunday on the pregame show, and they and they asked
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Sang about his you know, why he's pitching so poorly,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: and he says he's not getting power behind his pitches,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: which leads me to believe that that hamstring, strained muscle
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: pull is still not one hundred and Sean Manaiah, you know,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: with the floating chips in his in his left elbow,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that when the season's over, Manaia
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is gonna need surgery in that elbow. Obviously, I'm not
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not a norther pic orthopedic doctor, but that could be.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: But I just don't And their short outings are killing
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the Mets bullpen. You can't win. I don't think this
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is sustainable. So thank god. Nolan McLain has been I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: mean fantastic, he's been fantastic, but again he's only had
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: four starts.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Which our own Ryan Pigano broke in the news on
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: with Us a couple of weeks ago. And then McLain
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: goes out and throws that gem of a game to
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: start his MLB debut. I know I brought the term
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: call ups of the year, called of the year last year.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe these two are the call ups of the year
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: for the Mets this year.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Well, Alex, Alex, I hope, I hope you're right. I mean,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so we'll see. I mean, they go into Cincinnati with
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it'll either be a five or four game lead. The
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: one thing that you want to do in Cincinnati, Yeah,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: you want to win every game, you want to win
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: two out of three. But the one thing you can't
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: do in Cincinnati is get swept. So they got If
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: they lose all three games, that means they lose three
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: games in the standings. But even if they just win
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: one game, it makes a whole world of difference. You know,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: you only lose one, you only really lose one game
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in the standings.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So so.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: It's an important weekend. This is this is game three
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: of a sixteen game stretch that is a killer three
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: with UH Detroit, is done three with Cincinnati this weekend,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: four in Philly, come home to three with the Texas Rangers,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: who are hot, then three at home with the San
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Diego Padres. A sixteen game stretch that is very, very difficult.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: The Mets turn out of lock for the playoffs. Yet
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: unless that pitching staff turns around, amazing.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: They are at that third spot precipice and they're they're
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: they're solidified there at the moment. But but this team
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: deserves to be higher. But we talked about this in
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the preseason in spring drink, You and I talked about
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the pitching is not going to be there to carry
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: this hitting. And it's just it's shown. And I don't know,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I saw Helsley the other night. I don't exactly get
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the complaints, but I guess Standick and Helsley have been
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: in sort of you know, it's been bad with both
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: of them, is what I've been reading online? Is that
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: is that true?
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Well? The Ryan Helsley in effectiveness has been shocking to me.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Here's a guy who's who sayed forty nine games last
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: year for the Cardinals, and he's pitching. He's pitching poorly.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: He's given a five home runs in his brief time
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: with the Mets. And I mean, I thought when the
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Mets made that trace, my god, what a steal. I
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: think it might be in his head. Alex allegedly he's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: tipping pitches. I assume he is. I mean, the other night,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: as Gary said on the telecast, Gary Cohen said on
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: telecast six pitches, the Tigers aggressively swung at four to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: six pitches and put it in play like they knew
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: what was coming, so they got to get him straight.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: At this point, I don't even know if he's worthy
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: to be put on the postseason roster if they if
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: they make this postseason, and I think they will. I
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: do think the six NL teams and I actually think
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: the twelve teams are are. And even though Seattle can't
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, Seattle cannot win on the road, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: they're they're falling back. They're allowing some other teams to
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: think that they're they're playoff contenders.
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  Speaker 2: But uh, and you know it's interesting because he it
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: is true what you said. I think it was you
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: or someone else that said, if cal doesn't produce.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: The well again, Alex we said the deadline on that
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: deadline show that we did not all the time. When
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you make these trades and you get like Seattle brought
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: in Soarez, I think he's hit only two home runs
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: or three home runs since he went to Seattle. I
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: think he's batting right around two hundred. He's not producing
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: like he did in Arizona. He went from a when
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he went from a favorable hit ballpark, uh to Seattle,
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: which is not a favorable hitting ballpark.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Hellsley has pitched poorly. Jake Bird pitch poorly. He's in
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: the minor leagues. And I'm sure we can go through
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: some other you know, some other teams that make trades
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: at the deadline at right off the top of my head,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I can't think of. So you don't know. You make
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: these trades, but for two months you're up. You're upstaging
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: their lives too. Remember these are human beings, these aren't robots.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: So a guy like Helsley, who's been in Saint Louis
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: for his entire career, now comes to New York for
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a couple of months, not knowing where he's going to
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: be next year because he's gonna be a free agent
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: and he's pitching terribly for the Mets, and I thought
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: that was a tremendous trade for the Mets. But you know,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: we have to wait and see now real quickly before
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: we we wrap it up. The Yankees are hitting home
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: runs at a tremendous pace. I mean, it counts for
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: the majority of their offense. They still can't build runs
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: except if they're hitting home runs on a consistent basis.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: I think their starting pitching has been good. Their bullpen's
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: been up and down, and they take advantage when they
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: The Yankees are very good. The Yankees are very good
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: against the bad teams.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I know, it's like that Cars song. They got just
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: what they needed when they face the Nationals and the
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: White Sox, so they couldn't close out the sweep. However, however,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I think to give them competents going into yesterday. And
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: of course it's the Astros which start out this twelve
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: game stretch, Lou, I don't think we saw the difficulty
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: of first place, but it's here. It's right there, as
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Aaron Bonelez, they right in front of them now, so oh.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: It absolutely is. And as you know, I'm I never
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: trust the Blue Jays, as I've told you all year,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you want to finish first and have one
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: or two best records so you don't have to you
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: don't have to play in that you know, Russian roulette
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: two out of three first round, which the Mets have
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: had to do. Maybe it looks like this year for
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: sure if they make it, which it'll be another two
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: out of three. But ironically, the two out of three
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: at home they lost two games to one. The two
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: out of three on the road last year they won.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: So who the heck knows what's gonna happen. But I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: just don't think the Mets have a su staind open
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: pitching staff to win, you know, fourth series, to win
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: thirteen games over a month. I don't know if the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Yankees have the hitting.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: To do that.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah they're hitting home runs at a tremendous pace now,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: but as we know, postseason pitching is a little bit different.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And tell me twice, I remember in that Game five
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: after I don't want to say Roberts let them win
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Game four, but I mean he didn't. He wasn't. He
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: was very relaxed in Game four, like it just whatever,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it was was because he kind of knew that he
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: had the next night. But let me tell you, when
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: he locked in on Game five, he shut them down
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: through his bullpen maneuvers. I mean it was amazing because
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: they had scored those five runs and then nothing else.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Everybody played theirs. I just think it was the Dodgers
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: also shutting them out in perfect fashion the rest of
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can't disagree with you on that. But
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: obviously the gauntlet to get to the World Series again
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: in the American League is not as sough as the
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: National League. You know, I have no I thought the
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Dodgers would be more dominant. They're not. I don't know
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: if they could turn it on come playoff time. They
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: probably will get the first round by It's gonna be
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: interesting to see next next Monday, Tuesday, one no, no,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the week after they play Philadelphia three game series, and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting to see those two teams play
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: each other. So, but obviously the Phillies can't beat the
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Mets in Phillies in city field.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And Phillies not had that banner year either.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well, Alex, I don't think they can
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: win the World Series. He's without the guy who was
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: the best pitcher in the National League in Zach Wheeler,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: and that was devastating. That's devastating to the Phillies college.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Schwarmer can only hit how many homers in the game.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it only takes him so far. Absolutely, by the way,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: he is an l m VP.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I don't see anybody else in that category.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I would vote for Schwarver for MVP right now. The
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: season ended today.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: And you know what, I love the Yankee fan base,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: but give cals due. The guy's an MVP this year.
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I would vote for him for MVP. He's
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: not only he's a switching in catcher, and he's a
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: great defensive catcher. And he won the Platinum Award last year,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the Platinum Glove, which is emblematic of the best defensive
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: player regardless of position in the American League. So we'll
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: see how these last three and a half weeks go
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to gonna be very interesting three and a half weeks.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: A couple of things. I know we're geting aead of
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: ourselves into the offseason, but this is just me as
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a Met fan. The Mets should try to get Paul
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Skans this year before somebody else tries to get them
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: next year, I would. I would put together a package
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to get Schemes here. I really would.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: And now now there was a claim Yankees tried to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: a Spencer Jones or something I don't know.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Well, again, I would trade Spencer Jones. He's a prospect
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: for of course, Paul Skins is the second best pitcher
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: in the National League this year behind Wheeler, and now
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: that Wheeler's done, my opinion, he's the best picture in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: the National League. The Pirates are not going to sign
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: him to uh uh to an extension. They're gonna trade
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: him at one point, whether it's two years from now.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: I know he has what four years before he becomes
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: a free agent. He's not They're not going to let
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: him go to free agency. They're gonna trade him. If
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: I was the Mets, I would make a big time
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: effort to get him, and I would make a big
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: time effort to get and you don't have to probably
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: give up as much to get san Ley al Contra,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: who came off Tommy John did not have the first
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: a good first four months and has had a very
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: very good last five starts. If I was the Mets,
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: I would aggressively go after one of these guys.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Well that note, On that note, we gotta role here
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: at the One Leg Up Alex Sports Desk if you will,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: but always love chatting with you. Let's catch up next
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: week as things come out in game week one. We
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: always do those Monday recaps. You gotta get back to
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: that fanfl I want to do them. Call me. We
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: will make that happen with lou Terminello. Terminello's take a
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: lot more to cover down the road here. It's only
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: September three more to come right, louis
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Right, Alex, Alex, thank you so much for having me