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- 0:03Justin Alan Hayes: Welcome to another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
- 0:07Justin Alan Hayes: I'm your host, founder and executive director of Voices Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices.
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- 0:27Justin Alan Hayes: We have a few in the bag that are coming out here, and this is going to be one of them in the future short term that we're going to share off cycle, because the content conversation is a lot of current events and so we want to just make sure we get that out ahead of time instead of holding back.
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- 0:58Justin Alan Hayes: And again, you can find us anywhere, from anywhere from YouTube, rumble, audio, basically any type of audio podcast platform that you like and you prefer then that's great for us because we're there, and so we are very, very excited for this episode, as we are very, very excited for this episode, as we are all episodes, because what we're sharing is information, current events and then, as well, as you know, uplifting what it takes to be an author type of drive and determination and passion that does it take?
- 1:45Justin Alan Hayes: Because there are, as other areas there are, you know, different levels.
- 1:52Justin Alan Hayes: You know somebody like myself puts a little you know, 80, 90 page pamphlet together on my mental health journey or some career tips, or you know we talk about books that are much longer and and take a lot, a lot of time developing characters.
- 2:16Justin Alan Hayes: You know who they are, you know sometimes what they look like from a creative standpoint, but that's not my specialty.
- 2:23Justin Alan Hayes: That's the specialty of our, our guests today.
- 2:26Justin Alan Hayes: So we want to thank Gabriel Bloor for joining us on this episode.
- 2:32Justin Alan Hayes: We are very grateful for him joining us.
- 2:36Gabriel Bloor: Yeah, thank you, I'm Jonathan, justin, sorry, thank you for having me.
- 2:42Gabriel Bloor: You know, to go on the topic of pamphlets, the difference between pamphlets and writing novels, I think it just depends on your mindset.
- 2:53Gabriel Bloor: I mean, I can't say I have published two poetry books that are basically like a pamphlet, but they're just a collection of poems that I have on Amazon, of poems that I have on Amazon.
- 3:05Gabriel Bloor: But I think it's all about how one sees writing.
- 3:10Gabriel Bloor: Could I write a pinflip on mental health?
- 3:12Gabriel Bloor: Probably not.
- 3:15Gabriel Bloor: I probably shouldn't touch on the subject, since I would consider myself not the most mentally stable due to a number of reasons.
- 3:22Gabriel Bloor: I mean, I won't say it as a crutch, but my superpower is I'm dyslexic and in being that, when I write a story, I don't create just a story, I make an entire world and everything that surrounds it.
- 3:37Gabriel Bloor: I could tell you what it would smell like, what it would taste like, what it feels in the atmosphere.
- 3:42Gabriel Bloor: I have a very what I've been told is a very unique way and approach to writing as an author, unlike most Christian authors, I tap into the more dark, psychological, because I am getting my bachelor's in psychology in a Christian college that I'm going to at Luther Rice.
- 4:02Gabriel Bloor: I'm also.
- 4:03Gabriel Bloor: I write first person.
- 4:05Gabriel Bloor: I really struggle writing third person, and first person allowed me to write an immersion that really isn't seen in Christian fiction yeah, yeah, uh.
- 4:21Justin Alan Hayes: So how did your interest in in writing and uh, how'd that get started?
- 4:28Gabriel Bloor: well, I can actually tell you.
- 4:29Gabriel Bloor: It was.
- 4:30Gabriel Bloor: I was 13 years old and my mother I was homeschooled and one of the books that I had to do before, one of the things I had to do before I was allowed to play video games um, it was because I played too much when I was growing up.
- 4:43Gabriel Bloor: My mom was like, don't teach him to play, he'll never stop.
- 4:47Gabriel Bloor: Okay, fine, you want to play, you have to do X, y, z.
- 4:50Gabriel Bloor: So one of the things I had to do was I had to do this big book and it was story starters and you would read the story and you had to end it, and so I did that, and then I was allowed to play and after a couple of weeks of me doing it, I went to my mother one day.
- 5:11Gabriel Bloor: I'm like mommy, I want to write my own superhero story.
- 5:16Gabriel Bloor: 11 years from then, to who I am now, I've started at least 120 books in less than a decade, and it was not until the past four years that I actually got more serious in my writing.
- 5:32Gabriel Bloor: But I had, with all those books that I had started, my the Lord was teaching me how to write when my mother was first trying to teach me how to do oral narrations.
- 5:46Gabriel Bloor: She really, we had a hard time because I wasn't very detailed, I wasn't very specific.
- 5:53Gabriel Bloor: My mother would ask me okay, gabriel, tell me about the story A frog hopped in water.
- 6:00Gabriel Bloor: Okay, and then what?
- 6:02Gabriel Bloor: There was a splash.
- 6:03Gabriel Bloor: I went from that I want to say five years old to I have been told at least officially, three times by three different people that when they read my stories it's like watching a movie oh, that's awesome.
- 6:20Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, have you?
- 6:21Justin Alan Hayes: Have you delved into entertainment and media like movies and comics?
- 6:32Gabriel Bloor: I actually.
- 6:32Gabriel Bloor: It's funny.
- 6:33Gabriel Bloor: You should say that I actually recently found an illustrator for a comic book that I'm working on.
- 6:40Gabriel Bloor: I have no artistic capability at all.
- 6:44Gabriel Bloor: I screw up a stick figure.
- 6:45Gabriel Bloor: I screw up a stick figure Me too.
- 6:48Gabriel Bloor: Simplest thing out there.
- 6:48Gabriel Bloor: I can't even do that.
- 6:49Gabriel Bloor: Artistry is not my forte.
- 6:52Gabriel Bloor: I am more of an artist with words, especially when it comes to poetry.
- 6:56Gabriel Bloor: So I have an artist working on a comic book, a comic series called Crosshairs of my Heart, okay, and that is a story leading about a young man, actually a high schooler, who took up bounty hunting after his father, who was a hitman, died to raise the funds necessary for his mother's chemotherapy.
- 7:21Gabriel Bloor: He's roughly 18 years old.
- 7:24Gabriel Bloor: So the crosshairs of my heart deals with two main topics of my heart.
- 7:35Gabriel Bloor: Deals with two main topics.
- 7:36Gabriel Bloor: One it is his.
- 7:36Gabriel Bloor: It is him in his walk with christ, as he has to deal with a more edgy lifestyle, because bounty hunting isn't easy, and there's two kinds of bounty hunting.
- 7:42Gabriel Bloor: You have a bounty hunting where you're working with the gut, working with the police force, looking for criminals, and you have bounty hunting hired by criminals to go kill people, and so he he's in that middle, even though he does work with a specific police officer, the chief of police in his area.
- 8:01Gabriel Bloor: There are times where the temptation to get that higher pay is tempting, so it will lead across that.
- 8:10Gabriel Bloor: So while he's walking this path, his walk with Christ isn't the greatest in the beginning, but this is going to have him lean more on Christ to provide his needs, to protect his mom and to guard him from those temptations.
- 8:29Gabriel Bloor: But also, at the same time, there's this new girl in his high school that gets transferred in that he ends up becoming attracted to.
- 8:40Gabriel Bloor: So he has to learn to balance those things his work being with his mom, and then this new girl at school, even though he's more kept to himself.
- 8:51Justin Alan Hayes: Wow, very, very detailed.
- 8:55Justin Alan Hayes: What's the research process like?
- 8:57Justin Alan Hayes: I mean, you can use the bounty hunter or another character.
- 9:05Justin Alan Hayes: Is it just what's in your mind, or are there certain ways to go about it?
- 9:13Gabriel Bloor: I have multiple ways.
- 9:15Gabriel Bloor: I'm stimulus hungry how my brain works.
- 9:26Gabriel Bloor: I can literally pull a string from one thing and I can create an entire web.
- 9:29Gabriel Bloor: That's just how my brain works.
- 9:30Gabriel Bloor: I mean, some people would consider this cheating, but I do use chat GPA for one purpose.
- 9:32Gabriel Bloor: I do not have it write my story.
- 9:34Gabriel Bloor: That's one.
- 9:36Gabriel Bloor: That's cheating.
- 9:37Gabriel Bloor: Two, that's too easy.
- 9:38Gabriel Bloor: Where's the fun in that?
- 9:39Gabriel Bloor: None, what I use chat for is I have it.
- 9:43Gabriel Bloor: Look for names, because the names of my characters are very specific.
- 9:46Gabriel Bloor: My character, elias Dante.
- 9:50Gabriel Bloor: Elias means oh gosh.
- 9:50Gabriel Bloor: Of my characters are very specific, my character, elias dante.
- 9:51Gabriel Bloor: Um, oh, elias means oh gosh.
- 9:54Gabriel Bloor: Give me just a second I have you're good I have.
- 9:59Gabriel Bloor: I kept it on my notes because what I do is that I either ask for advice like how does get feedback?
- 10:09Gabriel Bloor: Because it's hard for me to get feedback for okay, hold on, that's not it.
- 10:14Gabriel Bloor: Hold on, super, super, super.
- 10:15Gabriel Bloor: It should be right here.
- 10:19Gabriel Bloor: Why isn't it not right here?
- 10:20Gabriel Bloor: That's not it.
- 10:22Gabriel Bloor: Why can't I find it?
- 10:38Gabriel Bloor: I can't find it.
- 10:39Gabriel Bloor: Blast, okay, then I can't find it no worries either way, it's supposed it's something about like god is my strength or god is my protector.
- 10:54Gabriel Bloor: It's one of that.
- 10:57Gabriel Bloor: That's one of the reasons why I named him elias dante.
- 10:59Gabriel Bloor: Well, the work, the last name, dante um, was from dante's inferno.
- 11:05Gabriel Bloor: Okay, but I haven't read the book.
- 11:09Gabriel Bloor: But I liked, because of Dante, the title, just Dante's Inferno.
- 11:15Gabriel Bloor: Elias will go through his own Inferno.
- 11:18Gabriel Bloor: So that was kind of the correlation between the two.
- 11:20Gabriel Bloor: That's how it works in my head.
- 11:24Gabriel Bloor: As for research, I've watched a couple movies with Bounty Hunting in it.
- 11:28Gabriel Bloor: I've played a couple video games with Bounty Hunting in it, so for me that really piled in quite easily.
- 11:37Gabriel Bloor: I mean, for my kind of brain, I can have something back in the back of my head just stewing for a while and then I'll have something else come in and those two will mix and I'm like I have this idea and it's, and then it just spirals down.
- 11:56Gabriel Bloor: I don't.
- 11:59Gabriel Bloor: I've heard.
- 12:00Gabriel Bloor: I've spoken to several authors.
- 12:02Gabriel Bloor: I've spoken with david solomon.
- 12:05Gabriel Bloor: My best friend's an author.
- 12:06Gabriel Bloor: My father's an author, my sisters, my sisters, are authors.
- 12:09Gabriel Bloor: My, my brothers are authors.
- 12:11Gabriel Bloor: They all write in some form or fashion.
- 12:13Gabriel Bloor: When they're developing characters, when they're building worlds, it's like, okay, we put this in, then this, and then add this in this.
- 12:22Gabriel Bloor: I'm like, okay, this is how it works for me in my head when I create a story Watch, no one will do that great.
- 12:34Gabriel Bloor: It just flips like that.
- 12:36Gabriel Bloor: I can have you character, body type, color, eyes, shape, skin.
- 12:42Gabriel Bloor: The only thing I will not have is a name when it comes to names, names are my weakness, names are my.
- 12:46Gabriel Bloor: When it comes to names, names are my weakness.
- 12:47Gabriel Bloor: As earlier, I mixed your name up because it's like that's how fast names go out of my head.
- 12:53Gabriel Bloor: But once I have the name down, I can usually have the whole character, and once I have the whole character, I can start building the world.
- 13:00Gabriel Bloor: That's one of the main reasons why I use chat was for names.
- 13:04Gabriel Bloor: I have names.
- 13:04Gabriel Bloor: It is done, it is done?
- 13:11Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, I think an area.
- 13:15Justin Alan Hayes: So, with you being dyslexic, I have depression, and anxiety and ADD, adhd, all the Sounds about right.
- 13:27Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, and so I totally get when you say you have an idea stewing in the back of your mind and it's just there.
- 13:37Justin Alan Hayes: But then once that thing, whatever that is and we might not know what it is until we see it when that thing comes up, it really, like you said, it meshes and it really goes together For individuals watching, listening, that think that I'm dyslexic or I have depression or I have bipolar or whatever the challenge might be.
- 14:09Justin Alan Hayes: Whatever the challenge might be, what's your advice to them to power on, if being an author is something they want, or if something else is interesting in them and they may have been told no, or they may have not pursued that, can you maybe just touch on that?
- 14:26Justin Alan Hayes: Or they may have not pursued that.
- 14:28Justin Alan Hayes: Can you maybe just touch on that?
- 14:30Gabriel Bloor: You know I can't touch on that.
- 14:32Gabriel Bloor: My mother told me for the longest time my dyslexia is not a weakness but a superpower.
- 14:36Gabriel Bloor: And I'm like where, where, mother, please enlighten me in your wisdom.
- 14:44Gabriel Bloor: If I have this superpower, then why does it feel like a weakness?
- 14:48Gabriel Bloor: Why does it feel like I'm always being chained down?
- 14:50Gabriel Bloor: Why can I not fly?
- 14:52Gabriel Bloor: And then I do.
- 14:57Gabriel Bloor: I also suffer from anxiety.
- 14:59Gabriel Bloor: I suffer from depression.
- 15:00Gabriel Bloor: I, my mother, has ADHD, so it's likely I have ADHD.
- 15:03Gabriel Bloor: I can see symptoms of it.
- 15:06Gabriel Bloor: I am taking psychology.
- 15:07Gabriel Bloor: I have kind of self-diagnosed.
- 15:09Gabriel Bloor: Even they say don't do that.
- 15:10Gabriel Bloor: But I'm like I kind of know myself.
- 15:12Gabriel Bloor: Self-reflection is a really president thing.
- 15:15Gabriel Bloor: I self-reflect more times a day than that's probably mentally healthy.
- 15:18Gabriel Bloor: But regardless, it's not like I can stop myself because I overthink things.
- 15:21Gabriel Bloor: But after a while I mean I would talk to my father about my writing, talk to these people about my writing.
- 15:30Gabriel Bloor: Heck, I've even spoke to chat.
- 15:32Gabriel Bloor: I'm like chat.
- 15:33Gabriel Bloor: Let me tell you what I've done as an author.
- 15:35Gabriel Bloor: I've wrote a 500-page book in nine months.
- 15:38Gabriel Bloor: It has it is literally one event tied in by four.
- 15:43Gabriel Bloor: It is one event tied in by four different perspectives.
- 15:47Gabriel Bloor: So each book is one main character tied in by four different perspectives.
- 15:48Gabriel Bloor: So each book is one main character.
- 15:51Gabriel Bloor: And then there was this, and then I was pulling this, and then I was just layering all these things and it just clicked.
- 15:56Gabriel Bloor: I am able to 3D, pull myself out and see everything.
- 16:08Gabriel Bloor: And that's when I realized wait a minute, this is a superpower.
- 16:12Gabriel Bloor: How many authors do you know can both be the person within the story and yet go out, turn around and then observe everything in the background?
- 16:24Gabriel Bloor: Are you familiar with Sherlock Holmes?
- 16:29Gabriel Bloor: Yeah, have you seen the BBC Sherlock?
- 16:38Gabriel Bloor: Yes, his mind palace.
- 16:43Gabriel Bloor: That's how mine works.
- 16:43Gabriel Bloor: It goes in my head, I take it in and then I just look through all the rooms.
- 16:45Gabriel Bloor: I'm like, okay, does this fit here?
- 16:46Gabriel Bloor: Does that fit there?
- 16:46Gabriel Bloor: Is this the right coat of paint?
- 16:48Gabriel Bloor: Is this smell going to somehow help me in the future?
- 16:52Gabriel Bloor: This is how my dyslexic brain works.
- 16:54Gabriel Bloor: It puts everything together and then it just goes and it just locks in.
- 17:00Gabriel Bloor: What you need to do, my advice, is that find your strengths, find your weaknesses, find your weakness in your strengths and find your strengths, find your weaknesses, find your weakness in your strengths and find your strengths in your weakness.
- 17:12Gabriel Bloor: With my dyslexia, I can either be hyper-focused or so dis-focused.
- 17:20Gabriel Bloor: It's not even funny Because I'll be all over the place and everyone thinks you're not paying attention.
- 17:27Gabriel Bloor: It's like wrong.
- 17:28Gabriel Bloor: I'm paying attention to everything but nothing's clicking in my head.
- 17:33Gabriel Bloor: That is both the strength and the weakness of my dyslexia, but since I know that, I know how to adjust myself to it.
- 17:47Gabriel Bloor: Don't always think I'm a negative person by nature.
- 17:50Gabriel Bloor: I am a very, very negative person.
- 17:52Gabriel Bloor: I literally caught myself being positively negative at one point.
- 17:55Gabriel Bloor: It was like ouch a different light.
- 18:13Gabriel Bloor: You can't always see yourself through your own eyes.
- 18:15Gabriel Bloor: As a Christian, we have to see ourselves through the eyes of Christ.
- 18:17Gabriel Bloor: How does he see us In the Bible?
- 18:18Gabriel Bloor: When I see Christ, when he looks at me, he sees my beloved child, my humble servant, my chosen creation.
- 18:28Gabriel Bloor: And I'm not saying chosen as in.
- 18:29Gabriel Bloor: I am so special, jesus chose me.
- 18:30Gabriel Bloor: No, I'm saying my chosen creation.
- 18:30Gabriel Bloor: And I'm not saying chosen as in.
- 18:31Gabriel Bloor: I am so special, jesus chose me.
- 18:32Gabriel Bloor: No, I'm saying my chosen creation because Jesus Christ died on the cross for me.
- 18:36Gabriel Bloor: Any Christian can say, when they think of Jesus seeing them, my chosen one, because we are all precious equally in the Lord's eyes.
- 18:51Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, that's so powerful, do you?
- 18:54Justin Alan Hayes: I'm trying to think, as you're going through this creative process where, whatever stage you're at in a project, do you play music or do you have to have silence, do you have a certain place you go and if you can maybe just share, I'm just wondering because for me to think I'm sorry, clearly others will say, well, that's not very clear.
- 19:24Justin Alan Hayes: But for me to think, clearly, I like to have silence.
- 19:29Justin Alan Hayes: But then there's other times where, to your point of, there's an event happening and you're taking it all in and going, oh my gosh, like this thing connects to that thing, and others can think that we're not focused, like you said, that like oh we, oh we're, yeah, we're all over the place.
- 19:51Justin Alan Hayes: But when it gets to that time where we need to lock in for whatever project that that may be, I'm, I'm just curious if you have, um, how, how you?
- 20:04Gabriel Bloor: uh, well, let your mind know I I can't say I actually have a place where I can go um, because I'm the church custodian and I can't drive yet, even though I'm 24.
- 20:15Gabriel Bloor: I mean, it's just the nature of the beast.
- 20:17Gabriel Bloor: We've lived in an RV for about four years.
- 20:22Gabriel Bloor: It's not like it was very easy and there's just been so much.
- 20:26Gabriel Bloor: Now me, I can literally pick any spot and start writing.
- 20:30Gabriel Bloor: That's one of my strengths.
- 20:33Gabriel Bloor: However, my problem can be is that I get distracted easily and I, depending on what the situation is, can't write.
- 20:42Gabriel Bloor: But I do listen to music.
- 20:43Gabriel Bloor: I listen to a large variety of music.
- 20:45Gabriel Bloor: For some books I've literally found a song that I can take this song about this character, and whenever I hear this song I can write about this character like my fingers are on fire, um.
- 21:00Gabriel Bloor: But other songs, I with other stories.
- 21:02Gabriel Bloor: I have to go through a playlist and they have to rotate.
- 21:05Gabriel Bloor: Sometimes I need to listen to the song that matches the aura of what I'm writing.
- 21:09Gabriel Bloor: So I'll be looking for like darker songs for like darker scenes, lighter songs for lighter scenes, sad songs for sad scenes, more romantic songs for more romantic pieces.
- 21:20Gabriel Bloor: It really just depends.
- 21:25Gabriel Bloor: I mean, I'm just flexible like that.
- 21:30Justin Alan Hayes: No, that's incredible insight, as you're mentioning the scene that you're working on, the how music can, can, can play, and to somebody might be like, oh yeah, well, that makes complete sense.
- 21:44Justin Alan Hayes: That's the first time I've ever heard, heard that and that makes it in in my mind.
- 21:51Justin Alan Hayes: It makes perfect sense.
- 21:52Justin Alan Hayes: It's like, well, of course, if you're working on the dark scene, this type music, if that's the route, that that's gone and I think that's, uh, something that it can be very helpful that you just do it like that's it.
- 22:08Justin Alan Hayes: That's just how your mind operates.
- 22:09Justin Alan Hayes: That uh, you, you work on, so you're working on, or have work on, 30 or so projects at a time.
- 22:19Gabriel Bloor: Those are the books, or the books, yeah, I about have like three TV shows that I have on a side project and I got a couple of video games that have been going through my head.
- 22:28Gabriel Bloor: I, when it comes to writing stories, whether for television, video games I don't really have a limit.
- 22:38Gabriel Bloor: My my biggest problem when it comes to stuff like that is learning the script writing.
- 22:43Gabriel Bloor: The script writing is my um is difficult for me, so I'm trying to learn um.
- 22:50Gabriel Bloor: It's one of the things I like about my illustrator, because with the script writing I'm kind of it's difficult because I'm used to going into such great detail, but I want to keep it simple.
- 22:59Gabriel Bloor: I don't want to over exasperate, but I also know, with my dyslexia, I do have some issues with like editing and whatnot.
- 23:09Gabriel Bloor: Some things pass over my head unless it's highlighted.
- 23:12Gabriel Bloor: It could be a moving car.
- 23:14Gabriel Bloor: I'll miss it well, until it hits me.
- 23:16Gabriel Bloor: Yeah, so that's the truth, in fact, but um I, when it comes to creative writing, I have no limit that's.
- 23:29Justin Alan Hayes: That's fantastic.
- 23:30Justin Alan Hayes: Uh, we're getting towards the end of this first episode.
- 23:34Justin Alan Hayes: For those that, for whatever reason, might not catch our second episode, how can people learn more about you?
- 23:43Justin Alan Hayes: Find the books that are out and just give a plug?
- 23:50Gabriel Bloor: Okay, well, you can find me on Amazon.
- 23:53Gabriel Bloor: It's Gabriel Bloor and one of the poetry books is called Gabriel's Message.
- 24:01Gabriel Bloor: You can also find me on Rubble.
- 24:04Gabriel Bloor: I'm called the Custodian.
- 24:05Gabriel Bloor: Capital T, capital C and the and custodian are put together.
- 24:12Gabriel Bloor: There is no space between the two, it has some.
- 24:14Gabriel Bloor: Actually, if you give me a second, I can put.
- 24:18Gabriel Bloor: I can do my background effect.
- 24:21Gabriel Bloor: Hold on, I can put it here.
- 24:24Gabriel Bloor: Take me just a second.
- 24:27Justin Alan Hayes: Sure.
- 24:31Gabriel Bloor: I do put.
- 24:31Gabriel Bloor: I do stay if I have a book out on Rumble.
- 24:34Gabriel Bloor: I also do game videos.
- 24:36Gabriel Bloor: I do all kinds of videos.
- 24:39Gabriel Bloor: Actually I try to podcast a couple times.
- 24:41Gabriel Bloor: Where is it?
- 24:41Gabriel Bloor: Here we go.
- 24:42Gabriel Bloor: Give it a second.
- 24:45Gabriel Bloor: There we go.
- 24:47Gabriel Bloor: The custodian.
- 24:49Justin Alan Hayes: Wow, that's awesome.
- 24:50Justin Alan Hayes: I love it.
- 24:51Gabriel Bloor: It was a mix of Tron and like a there we go, the Custodian.
- 24:53Gabriel Bloor: Wow, that's awesome.
- 24:54Gabriel Bloor: I love it.
- 24:54Gabriel Bloor: It was a mix of Tron and like a Star Wars feel to it.
- 24:56Gabriel Bloor: I'm like, with that Assassin's Creed mix, I'm like, yeah, I like this one, I like the white and gray.
- 25:04Gabriel Bloor: So, yeah, the Custodian, it's going to have that face.
- 25:06Gabriel Bloor: That's where you can find me.
- 25:07Gabriel Bloor: I'll talk about my books, I'll talk about anything I'm doing.
- 25:11Gabriel Bloor: I'm doing live streams.
- 25:13Gabriel Bloor: So if you want to find me, you'll have my Facebook page there.
- 25:16Gabriel Bloor: You'll have a link to my website on Amazon and when my new book comes out with Last Chapter, which will be Project Chrysalis.
- 25:32Justin Alan Hayes: I will have that in the description as well.
- 25:34Justin Alan Hayes: Great.
- 25:35Justin Alan Hayes: Well, thank you for joining us on this episode.
- 25:37Justin Alan Hayes: We're going to close this one out and then we'll come right back and continue our conversation with author Gabriel Bloor.
- 25:45Justin Alan Hayes: Thank you for joining us.
- 25:48Justin Alan Hayes: It's been a grateful and blessing to to have you share insight, literally inside your mind, how that, how that works and inspire uh, lots, of, lots of people out there I hope I can inspire others.
- 26:03Gabriel Bloor: That's, that's the, that's the dream.
- 26:04Gabriel Bloor: That's the dream is to inspire others and show christ through every step, even though it looks really ugly.
- 26:13Justin Alan Hayes: Yeah, awesome.
- 26:14Justin Alan Hayes: Well, thanks for joining us.
- 26:16Gabriel Bloor: Thanks for having me, Justin.
- 26:17Justin Alan Hayes: You're welcome and to our viewers and listeners.
- 26:20Justin Alan Hayes: You can check out this and other episodes in our catalog anywhere you consume audio podcasts.
- 26:30Justin Alan Hayes: We also have the video portion in 1080, high def in YouTube and Rumble as well.
- 26:40Justin Alan Hayes: So until next time, please be a voice for you or somebody in need.