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The Kenny Report | 28 May · The Kenny Report

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  Speaker 1: Laura from the Skying New Center. This is the Kenny Report.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Tonight Parliament is back and the Albaneze government is again
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  Speaker 2: on the back foot over criminal immigration detainees set free
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  Speaker 2: and it's again ducking responsibility. The ABC's left wing bias
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  Speaker 2: and anti Australia retorc creates outrage but it goes.
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  Speaker 1: Unaddressed so far.
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  Speaker 2: Anti Semitism on the rise, a famous Australian is targeted,
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  Speaker 2: and our doco airing tonight, I'll speak with Josh Friedenberg
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  Speaker 2: all that state government overreach, Joe Biden negligence, and plenty
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  Speaker 2: more with Souzio O'Brien, Stephen Senna, Tiempo, Christen Tate and
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  Speaker 2: Tim Blair.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: The immigration detention at crisis dominated question time when Parliament
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  Speaker 2: resumed today with some horrific examples of criminals convicted of
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  Speaker 2: shocking crimes either set free or allowed to stay in Australia.
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  Speaker 2: It's now been revealed that nearly twenty percent of all
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  Speaker 2: the freed detainees are facing state charges, that is, they're
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  Speaker 2: accused of committing new offenses in Australia. The Coalition took
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  Speaker 2: up individual.
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  Speaker 3: Cases an immigration detainee referred to as HC Y, had
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  Speaker 3: his visa canceled after he was convicted of raping his
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  Speaker 3: fourteen year old stepdaughter whilst his wife was in hospital
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  Speaker 3: giving birth. The Alberzi Labor government's wading down of the
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  Speaker 3: law has allowed this criminal to stay in Australia, making
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  Speaker 3: our country less safe. When will the Alberesi Labor government
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  Speaker 3: apologize for this catastrophic mistake and reverse direction.
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  Speaker 4: Ninety nine that, of course, community safety remains our highest
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  Speaker 4: priority as a government. I remind the lead of the
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  Speaker 4: Opposition in all members that this was a visa that
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  Speaker 4: was canceled and remain canceled by my department in line
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  Speaker 4: with Ministerial Direction ninety nine.
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  Speaker 2: Now, as case after case was presented to the Minister
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  Speaker 2: in Parliament, his aunt's as we're unconvincing, and we had
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  Speaker 2: the uncomfortable reality of him having to repeatedly express sympathy
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  Speaker 2: for victims of crimes, crimes which have only been made
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  Speaker 2: possible by the way these detainees have been set free
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  Speaker 2: or allowed to remain here.
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  Speaker 4: Our thoughts are of course with the victims in this case.
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  Speaker 4: My thoughts and I'm sure all our thoughts are with
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  Speaker 4: the victim's family.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Minister now says he's reviewing a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: of canceled visas or not canceled visas. And yet still
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  Speaker 2: six months on from this problem emerging, there's little clarity
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  Speaker 2: from the government about a permanent fix, and still less
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  Speaker 2: sign of the Minister taking control. In fact, his other
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  Speaker 2: theme today was about hand passing responsibility.
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  Speaker 4: What we have here are decisions of an independent tribunal
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  Speaker 4: to overturn the cancelation. There was a decision of the
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  Speaker 4: aat an independent tribunal to overturn, to overturn the insolation
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  Speaker 4: of the visa.
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  Speaker 1: These were decisions.
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  Speaker 4: Made by an independent tribune.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always someone else in charge, apparently. Now you
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  Speaker 2: know what this means, don't you. It means the Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister's theme song is catching on with the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the team. Yeah, it's not a laughing matter, is it.
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  Speaker 2: Someone needs to take charge. There was no sign of
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  Speaker 2: that in Parliament today. The ABC is in serious strife again.
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  Speaker 2: This is the public broadcaster that takes more than a
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars of your money every year but just ignores
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  Speaker 2: its charter, ignores the laws that say it should be
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  Speaker 2: pluralistic and objective. Instead, it runs large amounts of ideological propaganda,
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  Speaker 2: including in its news and current affairs coverage. And while
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  Speaker 2: they're called the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, when you listen to
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  Speaker 2: their senior opinion makers, they sound more like the anti
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  Speaker 2: Australian Broadcaster.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we are a racist calpul its face that
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  Speaker 5: we always have been at. Its very depressing to give
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  Speaker 5: a license like that, I find profoundly depressing and a
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  Speaker 5: terrible prospect for the next election.
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  Speaker 2: As you know, that's Laura Tingle, the main political reporter
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  Speaker 2: on their main national television current affairs program, and she's
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  Speaker 2: also the staff elected board member at the ABC. So
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  Speaker 2: if she hates Australians, if she reckons Australians are racists,
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  Speaker 2: then you can be sure that this is a view
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  Speaker 2: that runs deep in the organization. Comments like that show
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  Speaker 2: just how far out of touch these people are, how
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  Speaker 2: they don't even know the country that they're paid to
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  Speaker 2: serve and the country that pays their wages. The ABC
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  Speaker 2: is effectively a staff run collective, and as the fallout
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  Speaker 2: from Tingle's late as outrage continues, we'll probably see that
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  Speaker 2: play out. Because remember this is what the incoming chairman
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  Speaker 2: said earlier this year, if you don't want to reflect
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  Speaker 2: a view that aspires to impartiality, don't work at the ABC. Well,
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  Speaker 2: now will he follow up on that very sensible approach?
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  Speaker 2: Will the board dare to admonish tingle, demote her, dismiss her,
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  Speaker 2: or make a stand against bias? Will the board of
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  Speaker 2: which she's, of course, as I mentioned, a member, will
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  Speaker 2: they actually dare to do anything meaningful? And if they do,
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  Speaker 2: will the staff revolt and get their way? Regardless us
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  Speaker 2: We've all seen this movie before, don't forget. This is
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  Speaker 2: the outfit that just appointed green left activist David Maher
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  Speaker 2: to host a nightly national radio current affairs program, again
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  Speaker 2: completely ignoring their obligation to be objective and a political
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  Speaker 2: This is an organization with a plethora of green left presenters, hosts,
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  Speaker 2: reporters and producers, but it cannot point to a single
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  Speaker 2: right of center or conservative or mainstream host. The ABC
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  Speaker 2: continues to take your tax dollars under false pretenses. It's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to use its one point two billion dollars a
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  Speaker 2: year to provide programming and news and current affairs for
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  Speaker 2: all Australians. Instead, it produces content for its own green
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  Speaker 2: left click and it pushes its own worldview, often with
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  Speaker 2: blatant disregard for the facts.
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  Speaker 1: We had another case of that last night on their.
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  Speaker 2: Media Watch program. It's hosted by old English lefty Paul Barry,
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  Speaker 2: who's paid a full time wage to front fifteen minutes
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  Speaker 2: of opinion a week, and last night, as usual, he
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  Speaker 2: devoted much of his show to attacking news court media,
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  Speaker 2: including Sky News, and pushing his own green left views.
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  Speaker 2: He had to go at me for daring to question
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  Speaker 2: the dodgy accounting of the CSIRO report that pretends nuclear
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  Speaker 2: energy is uneconomic for Australia compared to renewables.
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  Speaker 6: Key accusing the nation's science and energy experts of fiddling
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  Speaker 6: the figures to suit the renewable message.
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  Speaker 2: So the CSIRO, they just juggle around with some of
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  Speaker 2: their numbers and they chuck in a bit of transmission
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  Speaker 2: here and a bit of firming there, and some batteries there,
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  Speaker 2: and they pretend they've invented a new form of energy,
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  Speaker 2: reliable renewables.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, these government scientists can't be trusted.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed, how dare I question a government scientific body that
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  Speaker 2: has conveniently decided to wade into an area of engineering,
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  Speaker 2: economics and politics, and happens to have come up with
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  Speaker 2: ridiculous findings like reliable renewables.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about it.
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  Speaker 2: The twenty largest and most successful economies in the world
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  Speaker 2: all use nuclear power, and they've all committed to tripling.
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  Speaker 1: Their nuclear power by twenty fifty. Do we really think
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  Speaker 1: they'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Doing this if renewables worked just as well and were
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  Speaker 2: half the price.
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  Speaker 1: It's absurd.
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  Speaker 2: Economists, due to the slam dissected the CSIRO reporting the
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  Speaker 2: Australian Today. Modeling is not science, she said, and estimating
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  Speaker 2: costs is also not science. By rights, the CSIRO should
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  Speaker 2: have declined the request. Its reputation has been markedly sullied.
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  Speaker 2: She went on to point out how the report overestimates
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  Speaker 2: the capacity factor for wind turbines, suggesting some of them
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  Speaker 2: will produce power about half of the time, when in
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  Speaker 2: fact it should be about a third or less. And
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  Speaker 2: on the other hand, Sloane points out the capacity factor
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  Speaker 2: for nuclear should be in the nineties, but in one
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  Speaker 2: scenario the CSIRO puts the figure at fifty three percent.
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  Speaker 2: Another clanger, and another startling error or deliberate miscalculation, ignores
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  Speaker 2: the fact that nuclear plants operate for eighty years or more,
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  Speaker 2: but this report bizarrely gives them a life span of
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  Speaker 2: thirty years. Solar and wind are assumed to last twenty
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  Speaker 2: five years, which is far too long, right Sloan?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: On those numbers alone, the report at least doubles the
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  Speaker 2: long term capital cost of nuclear and underestimates renewable capital
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  Speaker 2: costs by at least ten percent, maybe twenty percent. But
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  Speaker 2: you see, Paul Barry doesn't seem interested in the facts,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the real journalism where you interrogate what's presented,
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  Speaker 2: you judge spin against reality.
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  Speaker 1: Like many others at the ABC.
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  Speaker 2: Barry is more interested in climate zelotry and renewables pipe
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  Speaker 2: dreams without a spheric of skepticism.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, have a listened to this piece of a moting.
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  Speaker 1: It's worthy of Greta Tumberg.
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  Speaker 6: But even Shackle cont answer the problem that nuclear power
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  Speaker 6: would not deliver low emissions electricity in Australia until twenty
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  Speaker 6: forty or later, while climate change action is needed now.
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  Speaker 1: Action is needed now before twenty forty. What a fool.
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  Speaker 2: There's not a person in the world except Barry apparently,
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  Speaker 2: who thinks that the problem with nuclear is that we
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  Speaker 2: need to save the planet in Australia from Australia over
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  Speaker 2: the next decade. This is about as dumb as you
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  Speaker 2: can get. Really, he thinks that what we do in Australia,
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  Speaker 2: where we are actually reducing emissions anyway, where we produce
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  Speaker 2: one percent of global emission, he thinks this will affect
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  Speaker 2: the global climate before twenty forty, when global emissions are rising.
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  Speaker 2: The other ninety nine percent a rising anyway. I just
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  Speaker 2: can't believe this level of ignorance.
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  Speaker 1: No mate.
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  Speaker 2: The critics from Labor and the Greens do say that
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  Speaker 2: nuclear will take too long, but not because they think
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  Speaker 2: will all be cooked by twenty forty. It's because we
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  Speaker 2: need electricity in Australia before then, because the coal plants
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  Speaker 2: are closing down, so we either have to extend that
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  Speaker 2: coal and gas generation or have something else. It's hard
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  Speaker 2: to imagine this bloke changing a light bulb. So this
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  Speaker 2: is typical of the unscientific, irrational nonsense you get about
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  Speaker 2: climate and energy at the ABC. They're not interested in
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  Speaker 2: the facts or a proper debate or questioning the Zealots
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  Speaker 2: because so many of them are Zealots themselves. And it
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  Speaker 2: is after all they're ABC. Once again, we have to
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  Speaker 2: talk about anti Semitism. It's reared its ugly head yet
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  Speaker 2: again in this country. Singer songwriter Deborah Conway was performing
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  Speaker 2: with her husband Willie Ziggier in Hobart's Playhouse Theater on
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  Speaker 2: Saturday night when pro Palestinian protesters repeatedly interrupted the show.
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  Speaker 2: The Conway is a Jewish Australian and has been targeted
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  Speaker 2: previously in the arts world. This is anti Semitism, pure
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  Speaker 2: and simple. The protesters point to comments she's made critical
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  Speaker 2: of Hummus, pointing out that they put guns in the
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  Speaker 2: hands of teenagers. But what person would not be critical
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  Speaker 2: of the monsters of Hummus, who are an extremist Islamist
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  Speaker 2: terrorist group. No, well, let's be honest, let's be forthright.
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  Speaker 2: Conway is targeted because she is Jewish.
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  Speaker 1: This is antisemitism.
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  Speaker 2: This is bigotry and hatred tearing Australia apart. Yeah, a
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  Speaker 2: few people in the crowd got it right, didn't they
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  Speaker 2: ignorant people triggering hatred. This latest example of anti Semitism
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  Speaker 2: comes as Liberal MP Julian Lisa pushes in Parliament for
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  Speaker 2: a judicial inquiry into antisemitism on our university campuses. I
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  Speaker 2: spoke with him earlier and asked him what Jewish students
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  Speaker 2: and staff are experiencing now at our universities.
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  Speaker 8: Chris, I think it's becoming increasingly difficult for Jewish students
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  Speaker 8: and Jewish staff on campus.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen these encampments.
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  Speaker 8: You've seen people in lectures into tutory royals, having those
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  Speaker 8: lectures and tutorials invaded by protests where people are saying
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  Speaker 8: hostile things about Jews and hostile things about Israel. Having
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  Speaker 8: people invite people to protest, and then asking people to
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  Speaker 8: put their hands up if they oppose Israel, and then
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  Speaker 8: taking photographs of people. I think the saddest story for
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  Speaker 8: me of all that I've heard is the story of
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  Speaker 8: a Jewish girl at a college, a residential college, and
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  Speaker 8: she wanted to put on a Shabbat dinner for her
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  Speaker 8: friends in the college, both Jewish and non Jewish, and
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  Speaker 8: she hosted a lovely dinner, and how the next morning
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  Speaker 8: people decided to put Palestinian flags under her door as
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  Speaker 8: a way of intimidating her. This is daily life now
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  Speaker 8: for Jewish students on university campuses. It's the same for
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  Speaker 8: Jewish staff who are finding themselves intimidated, and in some
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  Speaker 8: places where those protests have got so noisy, like in Sydney,
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  Speaker 8: University just simply aren't able to teach the purpose of
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  Speaker 8: a university is to educate people. The purpose of a
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  Speaker 8: university is to allow people to research, to teach, and
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  Speaker 8: that's all being interrupted by these protesters and the failure
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  Speaker 8: of university leaders like vice chancellors and the chancellors of
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  Speaker 8: the universities frankly, to speak up and to take action
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  Speaker 8: to put a stop to this antisemitism we're seeing.
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  Speaker 2: We are seeing a rise of anti semitism right around
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  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 1: We're seeing it in different ways.
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  Speaker 2: Actions on our streets are horrible, graffiti, daubing as schools.
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  Speaker 2: We've had an incident come to light just today where
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  Speaker 2: the artist, the singer songwriter Deborah Conway has had her
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  Speaker 2: performance interrupted basically because she is Jewish. So why is
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  Speaker 2: it so important for you to have a judicial inquiry
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  Speaker 2: into anti semitism on universities?
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  Speaker 1: Why should universities be the focus?
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  Speaker 8: This is because universities are ground zero for anti semitism
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  Speaker 8: in Australia today and because it's where universities, because people
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  Speaker 8: go to universities to learn about the world around them,
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  Speaker 8: and if what they are learning is that Jews don't count,
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  Speaker 8: if what they are learning is that Jews should be
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  Speaker 8: destroyed when you hear slogans like interfata and river to
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  Speaker 8: the sea, if what they're learning is that authorities are
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  Speaker 8: happy to sit idly by while Jewish people are intimidated
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  Speaker 8: and harrassed as they try to go about their work teaching,
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  Speaker 8: learning and researching, and then that is a terrible thing
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  Speaker 8: that we are creating for the next generation of Australians.
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  Speaker 8: We will be missing out on the contribution of Jewish Australians,
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  Speaker 8: and we're creating an atmosphere where our country is no
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  Speaker 8: longer welcoming to all people, but only welcoming to some people.
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  Speaker 8: And that's never been the story of this country. The
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  Speaker 8: story of this country has been a country that has
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  Speaker 8: been welcoming to all people, but particularly to Jewish Australians
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  Speaker 8: who've been here since the days of the first fleet
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  Speaker 8: and who flourished in this country like almost no other.
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  Speaker 8: Because this has been a welcoming country where there's never
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  Speaker 8: been any official discrimination. We've got to draw a line
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  Speaker 8: in the sand, Chris and say enough is enough, and
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  Speaker 8: That's what this judicial inquiry is about. It's an opportunity
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  Speaker 8: to bring vice chances to account, to bring chancellors to account,
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  Speaker 8: to have them cross examined by silks in the witness box,
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  Speaker 8: and to enjoy we provide an environment where Jewish staff
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  Speaker 8: and Jewish students can give evidence free of potential reprisals.
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  Speaker 8: That's why this is so important today.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's a very serious, heavy handed if you like,
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  Speaker 2: form of inquiry, the sort of inquiry that usually costs
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  Speaker 2: a bit of money as well. But as you say,
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  Speaker 2: you think it will draw a line in the sound
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  Speaker 2: when it comes to antisemitism. Now you're putting it up
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  Speaker 2: through a private members bill. Private members build bills typically
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  Speaker 2: just disappear into the sand. Do you have any sense
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  Speaker 2: that there'll be support for this? Are you getting any
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  Speaker 2: support from the government side, the labor side that they
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  Speaker 2: might support you in this and get this inquiry underway.
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  Speaker 8: Well, when we last sat, Peter Dutton and Sarah Henderson,
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  Speaker 8: together with several crossbenches in both houses of Parliament, wrote
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  Speaker 8: to the Prime Minister calling for a judicial inquiry into
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  Speaker 8: antisemitism on campus. I've been talking about this since Navem
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  Speaker 8: last year and I flagged at the beginning of May
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  Speaker 8: that I would be preparing this private member's bill. The
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  Speaker 8: government is yet to respond to that letter. What the
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  Speaker 8: government has done instead is set up an inquiry under
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  Speaker 8: the Human Rights Commission. That inquiry will deal not only
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  Speaker 8: with antisemitism but with Islamophobia and racism on campus. Now,
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  Speaker 8: I have to say, if islamophobia and racism are a
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  Speaker 8: problem on campus, that's a very bad thing. But we're
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  Speaker 8: seeing a pattern here where the government continually fails to
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  Speaker 8: acknowledge the particularity of antisemitism and the particular problem that's
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  Speaker 8: being faced by this. The second problem with the government's
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  Speaker 8: approach is the Human Rights Commission is just about the
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  Speaker 8: worst body that you could have to inquire into antisemitism
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  Speaker 8: on campus.
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  Speaker 1: This is a body.
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  Speaker 8: Whose job it is to ensure that people are free
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  Speaker 8: of harrassment. It's a body that administers the Racial Discrimination Act,
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  Speaker 8: and yet it said nothing about antisemitism and its growth
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  Speaker 8: in Australia. Since the seventh of October, it put out
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  Speaker 8: a release supporting the rights of protesters are to the
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  Speaker 8: Opera House protists and it has several of its staff
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  Speaker 8: and its contractors who've been engaged in the doxing of
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  Speaker 8: Jewish creatives and artists, and also who've expressed Prohamas and
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  Speaker 8: anti Semitic statements. So I don't know why the government
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  Speaker 8: could possibly want to send Jewish students and Jewish staff
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  Speaker 8: to an inquiry run by an organization where systemic racism
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  Speaker 8: against Jews is the order of the day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Human Rights Commission isn't abomination. It ought to
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  Speaker 2: be abolished, but that's a debate for another time. Thanks
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  Speaker 2: so much for joining us, Julian. I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Chriz.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't forget. Got Josh Rodenberg coming up later
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  Speaker 2: in the program as well. But on the other side
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  Speaker 2: of this break, you're going to catch up with Susio o'
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  Speaker 2: brien and Stephen Senna Tiempo will talk about this detainee
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  Speaker 2: de bac or when will Andrew Giles fall on his sword?
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  Speaker 1: He is absolutely hopeless.
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  Speaker 2: Also, look at state governments still chasing COVID fines.
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  Speaker 1: Can you believe now?
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  Speaker 2: As you probably know, I'm always keen to point out
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  Speaker 2: the idiocy and overreach of governments and the march of
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  Speaker 2: the nanny state. Never have a take, never hesitate to
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  Speaker 2: send in any examples you notice around the place. We
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  Speaker 2: never run out of examples as it is. Because I
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  Speaker 2: was just thinking the other day, how about Queensland. You
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  Speaker 2: know that they're throwing money around there in the lead
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  Speaker 2: up to the election. We talked about it last night.
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  Speaker 2: Thousand dollars energy rebates and yesterday's gimmick of unlimited public
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  Speaker 2: transport for fifty cents.
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  Speaker 8: Fifty cents that's all it will cost to go anywhere
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  Speaker 8: in Queensland's public transport network from the fifth of August.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, obviously there's no shortage of money in the Sunshine State.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: But this is the same state government, I kid you not.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: This is the same state government that's pursuing two thousand,
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: one hundred eighty six people actually for COVID fines, for
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: a total of three point six million dollars in COVID fines.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You know, the outrageous fines for not.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Wearing a mask, or being in the wrong area, daring
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: to be down at the park with your friends during COVID,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: all those sorts of fines. Instead of just waiving these fines,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the government's actually spending more money chasing people down, trying
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: to get fines that never should have levied in the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: first place they ought to be ashamed of themselves. Other
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: states are still chasing these fines too. They should give
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: it a rest. They should be repaying everyone the COVID
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: fines that have already been levied, rather than chasing more
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: victims and chasing more of our money.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's another example. Now.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: No one wants to downplay the issue of domestic violence
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: and the need to protect women in particular. Of course,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: on this program, I've repeatedly called for tougher sentences and
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: stricter imposition of bail conditions and denial of bail, a
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: tougher law and order approach. But the Victorian Labor government
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: unveiled its new response today. Premier Jacinta Allen has appointed
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: the first Parliamentary Secretary for Men's Behavior Change. No, I'm
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: not making this up. A Minister for changing men's behavior. Yeah, good,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: one that ought to do it. It's just more political grandstanding,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: isn't it? More virtue signaling signaling instead of action.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Here's my tip.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Lock up bad men, lock up violent criminals. Lock up
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: men who threaten and intimidate and hurt women. Lock them up.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That'll change their behavior. Then they won't be able to
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: go near their potential victims. That's what governments need to do,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: fix problems, not come up with new titles and gimmicks
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: to make it look like they're doing something. Let's bring
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in the paddle now and I'm joined as ever by
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: two double cee breakfast radio host in Canbra Stephen Senna
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Tiempo and Columbus for the heroic Susio O'Brien in Melbourne,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Susie the parliamentary secretary for changing men's behavior.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He hasn't got a very big job as he Oh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: just beggars belief.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: There are so many concrete things that people in this
• 23:15
  Speaker 9: space have been crying out for for years now. Better
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: funding for women's shelters, or support for people who come
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: up with ideas like the silent alarm that women wear
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: around their neck that they can trigger and the person
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: who's attacking them doesn't even know what's coming. And then
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: the emergency services can come to their age.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: And what do they do.
• 23:38
  Speaker 9: They put in a I don't even know what it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: called a men's behavioral change expert. It's part of a parliamentary.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: The politician job is to change men's behavior.
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: Grandstand.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: It's nonsense.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What do they just have a minister for changing everyone's
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: behavior and there'll be no crime. Then we won't even
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: have to have a police force. What a joke at Steve,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and you get your thoughts on them. Still pursue these
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: COVID fines right Honestly, this Queensland government, they're throwing out
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: money handover fizz. They're chasing people down for the fines
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: because they caught up with a mate in the park
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: during the pandemic.
• 24:12
  Speaker 10: Chris, I don't know what you've got against the Queensland
• 24:14
  Speaker 10: government offering seven point two million public transport rides because
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: that's what it will pay for. I mean, seriously, these
• 24:20
  Speaker 10: fines should never been issued in the first place. But
• 24:22
  Speaker 10: you know, I think we know that the Queensland government's broken.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: If Andrew Chrisofuley wants to put the final nail in
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: the coffin of the work experienced kids government, come out
• 24:32
  Speaker 10: and say we will scrap COVID fines the day we
• 24:35
  Speaker 10: are elected. I mean fit in three point six million dollars.
• 24:39
  Speaker 10: If you're spending all of these resources to chase that,
• 24:42
  Speaker 10: you've completely lost sight of what your job in government
• 24:44
  Speaker 10: actually is.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a good tip for David chris fully just
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: right off those fines. That's one little point of difference.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: Now let's go to the federal government and the ongoing chaos.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Susie I cannot, for the life of me understand two things.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: One is how this minister Andrew Giles can be so inept,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: how he just hasn't got on top of this problem,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: even though he's had six months or more to try
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and deal with it.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: And secondly, on.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Top of that, given that he's just making everything worse,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: given that it's just an absolute disaster for community safety,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: why on earth doesn't Albot get him to quit.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Why doesn't he sack him?
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: Oh?
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: Is this was not the problem of the government's own making,
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: but they absolutely have not done enough to make it better.
• 25:28
  Speaker 9: I mean, we now find that one in five of
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: these people out in the community have committed serious crimes.
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: I mean that alone should get Giles to step down.
• 25:39
  Speaker 9: There's also some really seriously concerning things. Less than one
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: half of those people that cohort under proper electronic surveillance.
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: And we've got the head of Border Force saying, oh,
• 25:50
  Speaker 9: we're not keeping stats on these state crimes. Well, people
• 25:53
  Speaker 9: in the community are taking notice, and we're taking account
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: of exactly what these people are up to, murder, violent
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: home invasion. It's just disgusting that these people are still
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: out in our community and what is the government doing
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: about it. Half of them owning, half of them are
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: wearing bracelets.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: It's just shocking. Now.
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I think governments do have to deal with whatever issues
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: in crises arise, although I do think in this case, Stephen,
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: they are part of the problem. They did help create
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: this problem. They lost the High Court case partly because
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this idiot of a minister said he had no hope
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: of repatriating any of these people.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Now, you've never got no hope.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: There's always some hope that things will change in the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: country you're dealing with and you'll be able to repatriate them.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But he sort of gave the game away with that evidence.
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: Well, Chris, this is them with this government, though, keep
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: blaming somebody else for the problem and never fix it,
• 26:45
  Speaker 10: you know, I mean, I don't know how far backward
• 26:47
  Speaker 10: you can look. I mean, Okay, they got caught off
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: guard with the initial High Court decision, but this has
• 26:52
  Speaker 10: been an ongoing sore for months now that they've done nothing, nothing.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: To fix whatsoever.
• 26:58
  Speaker 10: Now I've seen you call the Prime a spectator, I
• 27:01
  Speaker 10: mean Andrew Giles, Claire O'Neill and Mark Drayfuss. They haven't
• 27:04
  Speaker 10: even turned up to the game, I mean fair income.
• 27:06
  Speaker 10: At what point does Albot And I know he's talking
• 27:09
  Speaker 10: about a reshuffle, but he's got to step in as
• 27:11
  Speaker 10: the Prime Minister and take responsibility for this. If he's
• 27:13
  Speaker 10: not going to sack the ministers, come in over the
• 27:15
  Speaker 10: top top of them and make the decisions yourself, somebody
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: has got to be the person where the buck stops,
• 27:20
  Speaker 10: and that should be the Prime Minister.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that's absolutely right, it just does.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: He's being a spectator himself, watching the whole show fall
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: over with Andrew Giles, not answering questions. And just to
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: stress your points, Susie, this is all about community safety.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Sure it's a shambles in the law and order sense.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Sure it's a shambles for our immigration system. But the
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: bottom line is people are getting hurt and you're having
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the Minister having to get up a number of times
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: in Parliament today and say this.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Our thoughts are of course with the victims in this case.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: My thoughts and I'm sure all our thoughts are with
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: the victims' family, Susie.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: They don't need his thoughts, they need his actions. They
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: need his actions, right.
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, his thoughts are clearly not enough. We need
• 28:04
  Speaker 9: the actions that are going to back up community safety.
• 28:08
  Speaker 9: And you know, again we've got the debarkle of Direction
• 28:12
  Speaker 9: ninety nine, where we still have what was initially well
• 28:17
  Speaker 9: meaning laws to assist people who had lived essentially from
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: New Zealand, who had lived the whole their whole lives
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: in our country to allow them to remain here. But
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: now it's been used by people from Sudan and a
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: whole lot of other countries. And you know, we've got
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: this case of this murderer from Queensland and what is
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: the government able to do about that? Doesn't seem like
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: they're doing anything about that either, and rerective of the
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: government's own making exactly.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: A complete abrogation of the responsibility. Say Premier is screaming
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: about this.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Well, that is a good question because most of them
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: are labor at the moment, but they really should be
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: because they're the ones stuck with the law and order issues.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: A really really good point. They should they should be
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: arcing up En mass. I want to get to the
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: ABC I want to talk about Laura Tingle. She's about
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: as prominent as you can get at the National Broadcast
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: and she owns their political reporter on their main television
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: current affairs show. She's on the board, she's a very
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: significant opinion maker at the ABC.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And this is what she thinks of her country. I mean,
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: we are a racist.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: Campulate's face that we always have been as very depressing
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: to give a license like that. I find the foundly
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: depressing and a terrible prospect for the next election.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Stephens, she doesn't appear to be at all perturbed about
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: living off the taxes of racists.
• 29:42
  Speaker 10: Pitt Can. I want to be a good place for her.
• 29:44
  Speaker 10: I think if that's what her attitude is, if you
• 29:46
  Speaker 10: hate Australia that much, there's plenty of other places in
• 29:48
  Speaker 10: the world that well maybe they wouldn't be happy to
• 29:50
  Speaker 10: have her. But you know, the words that really stick
• 29:52
  Speaker 10: out to me are employee, elected, board member, well faired income.
• 29:56
  Speaker 10: If that's not the group think speaking for the country,
• 29:59
  Speaker 10: I don't know what. But if the National Broadcaster, if
• 30:01
  Speaker 10: the most prominent face of the National Broadcaster thinks that
• 30:05
  Speaker 10: we are a racist country, well it's time that we
• 30:08
  Speaker 10: really need to take a long hard look at the
• 30:09
  Speaker 10: AB say, and I know you've been calling for that
• 30:11
  Speaker 10: for ages, but this should be the tipping point.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a big test for the new
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: chair Kim Williams, doesn't it, Susie, because she's quite entitled
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: to have those views. But if if she wants to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: express those views and espouse them, then maybe she should
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: be working at the Guardian or the Green Left Weekly
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: or the Saturday paper. Maybe the national broadcast, with taxpayers
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: paying her money, is not the place for her.
• 30:34
  Speaker 9: I certainly wouldn't like her to be my stuff rap
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: on the board. This is very concerning because the ABC
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: has had such an issue with impartiality, and you've got
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: someone who is basically the figurehead of this particular program
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: in the seven thirty report, she's the main political representative,
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: she's on the board, and here she is expressing clearly
• 30:55
  Speaker 9: personal political views against the coalition, and you know it
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: kind of annoys me.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: This whole thing.
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: I'll wear a bunch of racists. Actually, there is a
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: subset of people who are behaving appallingly and we all
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: condemn them. That stuff that happened at Mount Scopus the
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: other day in Victoria.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Just awful.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: No one's saying.
• 31:13
  Speaker 9: That that's right, but doesn't reflect our country as a whole.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. I'm proud to be Australian.
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: Don't call me a racist.
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: He does not speak on behalf of most Australians and
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: she doesn't speak on behalf of the majority of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: ABC stuff.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Exactly most of them would have out in this way.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't know the country she works in and
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: lives in. Thanks for joining us, guys, I appreciate it.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Stephen Center, Tempo and Cisi O'Brien there will catch you
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: next week. Got to move on because after the break
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I'm catching up with the Federal Treasurer of Josh Fridenberger
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: ahead of his doco that's on Sky on Used tonight
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: at seven o'clock, Never Again, The Fight against Andy Semitism.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Let's get back to the alarming rise of Andy Semitism
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: in Australia. And as I mentioned, tonight is the night
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: for this new documentary, Never Again, The Fight against Anti Semitism.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: It's presented by the former Treasurer Josh Fridenberg. It's on
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: tonight at seven o'clock here on Sky or replace the
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Bot Report Freedenburg speaks with an impressive array of guests,
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: including former Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Here's a preview.
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: So what does the Holocaust actually teach us about what
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: is happening today?
• 32:23
  Speaker 12: Well, the Holocaust, of course teaches us where antisemitism leads
• 32:27
  Speaker 12: if it's not confronted. That is the history of Germany
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: before the war. It didn't happen all at once. It
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: didn't go from situation normal to gas chambers and Auschwitz
• 32:42
  Speaker 12: in the blink of an eye. Rather, year after year
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: after year, things got tougher and tougher and tougher for
• 32:49
  Speaker 12: the Jewish community. The anti Semitism, the rules and regulations
• 32:55
  Speaker 12: that we're confining and defining Jewish people as the enemy
• 32:59
  Speaker 12: with in the other to be shunned. These things happened
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: a step at a time. So given we've seen that history,
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: we're in a position when we see the first few
• 33:09
  Speaker 12: steps to say no more. Let's start combating that now
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: rather than watch this history just play out.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, said Julia Gillard. Should be doing a better
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that job than Elbow, now would she. That's saying something
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: like this is dangerous stuff and it needs to be
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: stamped out. Let's go now live to Josh Frodenberg joining
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: us from Albourn. Good to talk to you, Josh.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Nice to be with you, Chris.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Look, congratulations on the documentary. This is really deeply personal
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: for you, isn't it.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: It absolutely is.
• 33:42
  Speaker 11: I'm a proud Jewish history and part of a community
• 33:46
  Speaker 11: here in Australia that has contributed great members like Sir
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: John Monash and Isaac Isaac's Elman Cowen, Linda Dessou, Olympic
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: gold medalists and many many others who have played a
• 34:00
  Speaker 11: very central role in strengthening Australia's democracy and Australia's society.
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: And now the Jewish community here in Australia feels isolated,
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: feels abandoned, and certainly feels under threat. And what has
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: happened in our country, in our time on it in
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: our name is just unacceptable, Chris, because it's not been
• 34:23
  Speaker 11: an isolated incident of anti Semitism. It's been a pattern
• 34:27
  Speaker 11: of conduct over the last eight months, from the riots
• 34:31
  Speaker 11: outside the Opera House and in Corefield, the Jewish suburb,
• 34:35
  Speaker 11: to the dosing of Jewish creatives, to the boycotting of
• 34:39
  Speaker 11: Jewish owned businesses, and of course to the general intimidation,
• 34:44
  Speaker 11: harassment and fear on our university campuses, all of which
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: is unacceptable in twenty twenty four here in Australia, we.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Look at it and talk about it in detail on
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: this program night after night.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: It is frightening, its dispiriting.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: But when I think of that hate preacher on the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: streets of the southwestern suburbs of Sydney just the day
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: after October the Seventh Rejoicing is saying, this is a
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: great victory, reveling in the slaughter of Israeli men, women
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: and children. It just must be heartbreaking for people like
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: yourself who are raising children in the Jewish Australian communities.
• 35:28
  Speaker 11: It's actually chilling and frightening. And if this documentary does
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: nothing else, I hope it calls for our leaders to
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: better and more effectively enforce the law because people are
• 35:45
  Speaker 11: breaching the law, breaking the law day after day with
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: their incitement to violence and hatred on our streets, but
• 35:54
  Speaker 11: they're not being held to account and this is where
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: our Prime Minister needs to his words with action. He
• 36:02
  Speaker 11: says on the documentary that the statement from the River
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: to the Sea Palestine will be free. He says that
• 36:10
  Speaker 11: is a very violent statement, and he says that it
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: has no place on our streets. Yes yet, yesterday, today
• 36:19
  Speaker 11: and tomorrow here in Australia, people are chanting that statement
• 36:24
  Speaker 11: of hate which calls for the abolition of.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The state of Israel. Josh'stronger action must be taken. You've
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: spoken to anthe Albanez. He's in your documentary.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: He says some of the right things, but he's not
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: doing anything. Now, you're a trained lawyer, You've sat in
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: the National Security Committee of cabinets. We've got university students
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: and protesters saying they support Hummus openly barracking for Hummas.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: That in itself.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Surely is a breach of our law supporting a listed
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: terrorist organization.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yet the government stands back and does nothing.
• 36:58
  Speaker 11: And this is unacceptable and this has to stop. One
• 37:03
  Speaker 11: of the other people we speak to in the documentary,
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: Chris is Dennis Richardson, Australia's foremost intelligence and security expert,
• 37:11
  Speaker 11: the former head of ASIO in the Defense Department, and
• 37:14
  Speaker 11: he says he's bewildered, he's startled, he's surprise, he's puzzled
• 37:17
  Speaker 11: as to why our laws and are not being enforced
• 37:23
  Speaker 11: and they must be, and they need to be as
• 37:26
  Speaker 11: soon as possible, because our community is unsafe to be
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: the result of our laws not being enforced.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Do you fear things will get worse?
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Do your family and friends fear for their own safety
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: in their own country?
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: Tragically? Yes, and that is an unacceptable state of affairs.
• 37:46
  Speaker 11: We interview Holocaust survivors for this documentary and to hear
• 37:51
  Speaker 11: them in their late eighties and mid nineties talk about
• 37:55
  Speaker 11: being fearful in Australia, a country that welcomed them with
• 38:00
  Speaker 11: open arms after the horrors of the Holocaust, is heartbreaking.
• 38:04
  Speaker 11: And to hear the children of survivors say that they
• 38:09
  Speaker 11: having to explain to their kids why they cannot wear
• 38:12
  Speaker 11: their school uniform outside the school grounds for fear of
• 38:16
  Speaker 11: their safety. This is unacceptable in modern day Australia. It's
• 38:20
  Speaker 11: not nineteen thirty four, it's twenty twenty four and our
• 38:24
  Speaker 11: leaders need to step up. And if there is one
• 38:27
  Speaker 11: lesson from history, it's that bad things happen when good
• 38:31
  Speaker 11: people remain silent, and too many good people are remaining silent,
• 38:36
  Speaker 11: whether they're in our political class, whether there are university leaders,
• 38:41
  Speaker 11: or whether they're in our other institutions like the Human
• 38:44
  Speaker 11: Rights Commission. These people are sitting on the sidelines rather
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: than taking strong and decisive action at a time when
• 38:51
  Speaker 11: we need it most.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Well said Josh Fredenbergen. Congratulations yourself for making sure you're
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: using your voice on this issue. I appreciate you joining us,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Josh Fredenberg, they're the former treasurer. Don't miss this tonight
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: at seven o'clock Never Again, the Fight against Andy Semitism,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: presented and put together there by Josh Fridenberg and the team.
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  Speaker 1: You won't want to miss it.
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  Speaker 2: It's so important that people focus on this issue in
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: this country.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: We've spoken a lot about week leaders, politicians, and university
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: bosses who refused to crack down on pro Palestinian encampments.
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  Speaker 1: In the US.
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has taken a tough stance. He's reportedly telling
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: a group of Republican donors that one thing I'd do
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  Speaker 2: with any student that protests, I'd throw them out of
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the country.
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  Speaker 1: You know there are a lot of foreign students as
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: soon as.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: They hear that they're going to behave I asked Kristen
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Tate how that hardline stance is going down with Americans.
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  Speaker 7: I mean the fact that this is considered hardline.
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  Speaker 13: Chris just shows you how radical ideas have really penetrated
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  Speaker 13: the culture here.
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  Speaker 7: This is so common sense.
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  Speaker 13: We are one of the only countries in the world
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  Speaker 13: that is just importing millions of people who hate this country.
• 40:08
  Speaker 13: Do you think it would fly to go to any
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  Speaker 13: of these countries in the Middle East and start protesting
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  Speaker 13: against those countries and calling them evil and horrible, You'd
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  Speaker 13: be gone.
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  Speaker 7: And it's in a second.
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  Speaker 13: So I think a lot of Americans hear this from
• 40:21
  Speaker 13: Donald Trump and they agree with it wholeheartedly.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my dear Kristin, I want to get onto this
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: administration and their negligence when it comes to border protection
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: and this stunning revelation from the former chief of their
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: border protection patrolls.
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  Speaker 14: I've never had one conversation with the president or the
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  Speaker 14: Vice president for that matter, and so I was the
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  Speaker 14: chief of the barbatal I commanded twenty one thousand people.
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  Speaker 1: That's a problem, Kristin, That's just remarkable.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you think the president would talk to him
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  Speaker 2: if he's interested in fixing the problem, But certainly the
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: vice president, because she was chagsed with trying to come
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: up with some sort of border solution.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, I mean, not only are they just ignoring this issue,
• 41:05
  Speaker 13: they are actively making it worse by just completely leaving
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  Speaker 13: these border patrol agents to their own devices. This is
• 41:14
  Speaker 13: unfortunately a problem that's been going on for years. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 13: used to be a reporter for Breitbart News stationed on
• 41:19
  Speaker 13: the Texas Mexico border, and the guys down there were
• 41:23
  Speaker 13: completely on their own.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Then.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: Of course, the crossing numbers have.
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: Gone up significantly and exponentially under Joe Biden because the
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: border crossers and those looking across our border know that
• 41:36
  Speaker 13: Donald Trump could very well be elected in just a
• 41:39
  Speaker 13: few short months, so they are working hard to get
• 41:41
  Speaker 13: across it now while we still have Joe Biden. They
• 41:44
  Speaker 13: are completely changing this country and one more thing, I'm
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: changing it for the worse, by the way, I mean,
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: crimes out of control, all these problems we talk about
• 41:52
  Speaker 13: every week.
• 41:52
  Speaker 7: One thing I also found very interesting.
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  Speaker 13: About that clip, Chris, is that this was broadcast on
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  Speaker 13: CBS News sixty Minutes. This is a very far left
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: wing network that is usually very soft on the Biden
• 42:05
  Speaker 13: administration and Democrats in general. The facts that they are
• 42:09
  Speaker 13: airing this border patrol agent's complaints and these statements really
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: tells you something about the way the media is framing
• 42:18
  Speaker 13: the Biden administration and the fact that so many on
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: the left now in the establishment wings of the media
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: want Biden gone.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, very very important observation that it also shows that
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: the border issue is becoming very much a mainstream misery
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: right across your country if it's running on sixty minutes
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in that way. Let's get back to the president as well,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: and the fact that he's just dithering along every time
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: he performs in public or speaks in public public. The
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: people are just dismayed at what they're saying. Here's the
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: latest commentary from Joe Biden.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: Prudent well, certain that nat it would fracture.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: I remember right after being elected president, before right after
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  Speaker 2: I've sworn in, and we talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: Very issue the fall he had tied that fall, he
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: decided to, look, I shouldn't get into this problem if
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: it gets me a little excited. Good lord, Kristen, Good lord. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, these gaffes happen so often now they hardly
• 43:24
  Speaker 13: even make the news.
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: It's just almost every day, at least.
• 43:27
  Speaker 13: Multiple times a week, the president of the United States
• 43:31
  Speaker 13: is having clear lapses in his mental abilities, and it's
• 43:36
  Speaker 13: really embarrassing. It's terrifying at this point, but they're not
• 43:40
  Speaker 13: even really trying to hide it anymore. I'm really starting
• 43:42
  Speaker 13: to wonder though, whether or not he will be pushed
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: aside for another nominee.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: He might just insist that he stay as the Democrat
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: nominee for president.
• 43:52
  Speaker 13: And if that's the case, there's a real chance we're
• 43:55
  Speaker 13: going to have a Kamala Harris presidency. Because I just
• 43:59
  Speaker 13: don't see, Chris, how this man is going to get
• 44:02
  Speaker 13: through another four plus years on this job. It's really
• 44:06
  Speaker 13: stunning to see these constant gaffs.
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: And again, they're not even.
• 44:09
  Speaker 13: Shocking anymore because of how frequently they happen.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for that first debate that's next month, it's
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: only weeks away. If it happens, it should exactly.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us again, Kristin.
• 44:23
  Speaker 7: Thank you, Chris.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: Interestingly, late today, the coalition here as saying that if
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: foreign students get involved in anti Semitism, they'll lose their visas.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: So taking a leaf out of out there seems to
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: make sense, doesn't it. If you come here from overseas,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: you study here, we don't want you dividing the country
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: and are sharing any bigotry. Don't go away because after
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: the breaking on to catch up with Tim Blair, we're
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: going to talk about the big boom in lithium iron
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: battery fires, a bit of a problem. Let's catch up
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: with Tim Blair, the blogger to the Nation and Daily
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Telegraph columns. Good to talk to you, Tim. I. I
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: was intrigued by your column today because over the last
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: year or more we've focused a lot on these lithium
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: battery fires that have started up all around the place,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: people charging their golf carts or their e bikes or
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: their e scooters, because an enormous number of fires, even
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: a couple of fatalities sadly a.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Month or so ago.
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: And you've written in detail about this, and you kick
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it off with the very, very pertinent observation that one
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: of the great things about a bicycle is that normally
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't catch fire.
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  Speaker 15: Yes, this is true. Being a professional journalist with great
• 45:40
  Speaker 15: resource capacities and researchubilities, I've gone through the history of
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: bicycles right back to the eighteenth century and discovered that no,
• 45:49
  Speaker 15: you could basically leave a bicycle in your garage or
• 45:52
  Speaker 15: the ancient equivalent of garages, and the thing would be
• 45:56
  Speaker 15: basically intact and nonflammable by the time you returned to
• 45:59
  Speaker 15: it the next day with your scooters knee bukes. Very sadly,
• 46:05
  Speaker 15: it's often not the case. These things do blop. We
• 46:09
  Speaker 15: can't say frequently I don't think, Chris, but when they
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: do go, my god, do they take a lot of
• 46:14
  Speaker 15: household structures and even some lives with them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a really serious issue. People need to be
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: aware of it because you should not leave your e
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: bike or your e scooter charging indoors overnight or when
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: you're not home.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Just don't do it. It's too risky.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: And there's been a recent recall of batteries too. I
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: think these ones are more commonly associated with solar panels,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: but have a look at this recall notice.
• 46:39
  Speaker 16: There's a safety recall on solar system batteries branded LG
• 46:43
  Speaker 16: LGCAM and some Solax products. Affected batteries may overheat and
• 46:48
  Speaker 16: catch fire, even if you have checked before. Please check again.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, could cause death is the warning. Now, obviously there's
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: problems there. It's ironic, of course, with both of these
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: things that usually promoted to reduce carbon emissions are all
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: part of our switch to green energy, supposedly, but we're
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: starting all these fires.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: They're doing quite the opposite.
• 47:10
  Speaker 15: Yeah. Absolutely. In the article, I cite a paper from
• 47:14
  Speaker 15: the United Nations from twenty two now and saying that
• 47:16
  Speaker 15: lithium ion batteries this great leap forward for the human
• 47:20
  Speaker 15: kind in terms of reducing our greenhouse gas emissions and
• 47:22
  Speaker 15: so on. But they actually do create quite a deal
• 47:25
  Speaker 15: of pollution, as we've seen from we're looking footage right now.
• 47:28
  Speaker 15: They create quite more deal pollution than them perhaps some
• 47:34
  Speaker 15: less murdish alternatives. There's also the issue, Chris, of nuclear energy,
• 47:39
  Speaker 15: which apparently is a great terror. Even though you put
• 47:42
  Speaker 15: all the nuclear disasters together, of the last sixty eight years,
• 47:46
  Speaker 15: I think there's been four or five major disasters you
• 47:49
  Speaker 15: probably classify, and thirty deaths. Yet these things, I think
• 47:54
  Speaker 15: worldwide thirty six deaths just in the first half of
• 47:57
  Speaker 15: twenty twenty three. There's no panic.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It is frightening. No panic. Yeah. Interesting.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Now, one vehicle that has something great lithium.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Battery is your Tesla.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I noticed that the price is going down for Tesla's,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: which is good.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: It means you can line up and get yourself on now.
• 48:15
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I've been waiting for that, Chris. Yeah, hanging out
• 48:18
  Speaker 15: for it, mate. But yeah, a big fan of Elon
• 48:20
  Speaker 15: musk here on his free speech stance. But it looks
• 48:24
  Speaker 15: like you might assue be given us free cars. The
• 48:28
  Speaker 15: price of your Tesla's is really falling. And this is
• 48:30
  Speaker 15: this is intriguing because Tesla's world's most popular vehicle. I
• 48:34
  Speaker 15: think last year. The great sort of selling point of
• 48:38
  Speaker 15: Tesla's is the name. If you say you own a
• 48:40
  Speaker 15: Tesla in the right circles, people immediately know you own
• 48:44
  Speaker 15: an electric car. It's synonymous with electric. If you say
• 48:47
  Speaker 15: you own a certain type of ho Yundai or Teota
• 48:49
  Speaker 15: or any number of other manufacturers who also offer electric vehicles,
• 48:56
  Speaker 15: you've got got to actually say it's the electronic version.
• 48:58
  Speaker 15: And I'm not one of these terrible ludditees driving you know,
• 49:01
  Speaker 15: an old fashion VMW or an old fashion Forward. So
• 49:04
  Speaker 15: Tesla's always had that advantage. When the market leader begins
• 49:07
  Speaker 15: to suffer and begins to carve thousands of dollars of
• 49:10
  Speaker 15: its price, probably is a little bit more about e vehicles, yet.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Not so popular just at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, Tim, Appreciating and read Tim's stuff
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: at the Daily Telegraph for his blog via their website.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Right out of time.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: Now here's Peter Creedlin, m h.