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- 0:01Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
- 0:07season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
- 0:14Listen to him on radio train topic. Believe me if I understood you well
- 0:24with the 50s of the tariff to the rates keep all the snots. People
- 0:26run out of money. Buying us now the bacdad dollars told him. Although
- 0:31you look like an economic commentator, you can see that you understand the cooperation
- 0:36Minister. Of this one thing people are drier than it is field cookie.
- 0:40Not only can he not buy dollars, but he cannot buy morfe and he
- 0:44can buy us remedy. You can' t buy pastia, you can'
- 0:47t buy prick, comb or comb. Nothing can buy. It' s
- 0:52small details. So much did he say to me while he gave me a
- 0:54wafer that said I don' t have stereo. Small detail of home microeconomics.
- 0:59We don' t care about macroeconomics. So much so that in a
- 1:03short time we' re going to change the face of the poor country,
- 1:07they' re going to disfigure it more. The only thing we mean is
- 1:10a little after today so that tomorrow we can have tomorrow in Argentina power with
- 1:14which they dreamed our biggest trans sections, but a small sacrifice today for our
- 1:21children? A small sacrifice today for our children to have tomorrow inherit a large
- 1:29round midwifery, but in hot chance and distro. Listen to me ever since
- 1:36I was a little kid, I' ve been hearing that nothing from the
- 1:40future has to be sacrificed. The national motto has always been to fuck yourself
- 1:44today to enjoy tomorrow and one puts the other, but the future, by
- 1:49decision, will punctuate and never will be able to how it is. My
- 1:56friends, very but we' re a few afternoons. Here we are returning
- 1:59to the air in March plural instruction already to stay largely all year round with
- 2:04our usual editions in our three usual additions of Tuesday, my Ericos and Thursdays,
- 2:08well accompanied by the friend Juan do the controls in case it is working
- 2:12on the reproduction of this program that is entitled the prural construction, and it
- 2:16is nothing less than in its round season number twenty a year well, ok
- 2:25here we are with a dollar that remains quiet. Markets are still partying.
- 2:30A news actors who came back apparently Instagram night that we brought only a little,
- 2:36but Instagram that had fallen and received eighty- three notifications of the many
- 2:42that I have on my mobile. Well, apparently he' s recovering,
- 2:45because you guys vich calling on Instagram were also saying you missed photos. We
- 2:49' re on. Okay. It hasn' t affected me to a great
- 2:52extent, but, well, that' s how we are. The Bloops
- 2:53thousand ten low yere closed s thousand twenty and one hundred twenty- five I
- 2:58have counted on lisk hs lie fifty- two numbers that reminds them with all
- 3:01that li that will be touched thousand three hundred. In January, the Blue
- 3:04Thousand Fifty, Javier Millay predicted inflation of about fifteen percent by February. You
- 3:12were the economic culture of our friends and with the Mysts Camilo Ticornia, there
- 3:15Maria Castibio does not raise up the sixteen percent, but it is for the
- 3:19region cava no, and for region that sees not great Buenos Aires, capital
- 3:23and preeminence of Buenos Aires, as urban my law another number of fifteen percent
- 3:28for February. In March. Some are saying he' s not coming down.
- 3:31It is difficult to install my facebook. They have a global flaw,
- 3:36videos and photos are lost and you report to them and I tell them and
- 3:38they receive thousands of notifications. Now Chique, today, apparently is landing well
- 3:43Bermicos. It' s okay Here we are doing until three o' clock
- 3:53in the afternoon. He had a minute with Daniel Kipr. After them talking
- 3:57about economy, with Auti Monteverde. First we encounter a more judicial matter with
- 4:01Daniel and then with Agustín Monteverde. Well, then let' s go on
- 4:10this path this in this clol construction of seasonal rebooting. I' m too
- 4:13much. A little in January, a little in February and now if we
- 4:15' re full since this March we' ve just started the wire theft,
- 4:21not for another young man. The rosary ended with eighty percent of your bodies
- 4:25po burned and symphoax a little always the reference that we take so far in
- 4:29matters of news that you know, to see how it would work. The
- 4:33Government confirmed that to submit a project for the refund of the income tax.
- 4:38This obviously, in the same sea in the context of the opening of ordinary
- 4:42sessions at night to the Yankees looking for rais by IT, looking for fewer
- 4:47demonstrations, street protesters, the message in law to laugh ordinary from the President.
- 4:54Last Friday this recumbently and gain time. I' ll see what happens
- 5:00to the governors. Everything goes back. Omniustley Law bases as they would call
- 5:06him and a carrot governors, with tax on the check, with something to
- 5:12finance these in tax matters to the provinces. In return for that pact then,
- 5:15on May 25th in Cordoba, Well, we will see how the film
- 5:18follows and we will be analyzing it, as I say how it greens conquer
- 5:25now with carlos in the morning. How Gustavos Barra Wolvenson with many audios of
- 5:28villages, also of analysis all this of the reality with Julio Gambina, Alejandro
- 5:30Rockman, Caploticornia of economic matter, Alberto Gustar and tre materia geo política.
- 5:36And so to see the challenge he objected to Mackell presiding over the pro and
- 5:43answered Patricia bul Richo' s criticisms. A burri that is taken out does
- 5:48not have the faith of the converts. The truth is unbearable to me his
- 5:53ideas and the conversation about the past of revolutions, that he killed himself,
- 5:59he died, he died because of the president of the pro era that the
- 6:01great twenty of for Presidency before his mother believes that he seeks to unite the
- 6:05troops and says I cannot wait to leave the presidency that I want to seek
- 6:11to the management or everything of the convert, as is Burris, that has
- 6:14passed from Peronism, all those facets to his own party, to the pro
- 6:18Now good mileism has the faith of the converts that in the end this so
- 6:30we are well agar. I mean, I already have Daniel and I'
- 6:32m gonna save him a little bit to talk about. I would see,
- 6:35for example, that a project that has just presented Martin titties on the other
- 6:42side, a dirigist project that proposes that the current value of the quotas,
- 6:46the price of the prepaid ones decrease, since since the rates were regulated,
- 6:48there are no changes in services or in the working conditions of the doctors.
- 6:53And I would also talk about a certain signage. Not in all this.
- 6:56Daniel, good afternoon, how you doing. I' ve got a good
- 7:01afternoon, Fernando, how you' re doing, very well, thank you
- 7:03for having us. Daniel, no, please, how are you doing so
- 7:08well? Okay. It said there is a project of tits that here present
- 7:12the national deputy of radicalism, a man who is between the diloredo, servile
- 7:15and collaborator, and the counter- mandee with the two channels that once again
- 7:23have radicalism, the two more routes of center of right and more progressive that
- 7:27one can call obviously rigidist. Well, in this sense, it is proposed
- 7:31to go back with quota value, because it says that there is like a
- 7:34kind of posterization and that no changes have been noticed with the radiating increases in
- 7:40services or in the working conditions of doctors. There' s been some we
- 7:44talked about. I think that in the summer there is no caution in favor
- 7:46of some user and they tell me to see pay, but of that particular
- 7:49client. Indeed, it is enough of the house in cleto seventy Barra twenty
- 7:58- three is that the genre that this kind of free stone for prepaid medical
- 8:05companies, not that has motivated many users to initiate various judicial actions and obtain
- 8:13precautionary measures by subtracting the value of the boot to the previous values have dictated
- 8:22by the decree. The judges examine the importance of this right. The right
- 8:28to health, to the right to life are at stake and therefore they have
- 8:31been providing cautious measures to stop this situation, with which the intention of titties
- 8:37to re- regulate is to modify the pre- existing situation to the dictates
- 8:48in Decree 70 Barra in twenty- three. In other words, they were
- 8:54previously regulated by the State, where they should be authorized. Increases should classify
- 8:58the costs of medical companies propagate in that manner you are authorized when it is
- 9:07increases. Now, on the other hand, there is a part of going
- 9:11clean. Now suppose it is that the road is indeed not this project of
- 9:16tits that I doubt will happen, that it has been proven, that it
- 9:20becomes law, but that it would be repealed would say, the road is
- 9:24hard pere gar decree seventy. There is reference that was also made in his
- 9:26last appearance in February. This brings us back. I say if I received
- 9:31a quota, I don' t know give twenty thousand pesos and today it
- 9:35is seventy or fifty. This isn' t gonna take the fare back.
- 9:37If the cloud falls, it is that this free stone is blocked, as
- 9:41you said in quotation marks, but the value of the quota would not go
- 9:45back. I get it right, well, it' s absconding. Better
- 9:50said that Congress rejects neu' s Therefore, it is not valid and everything
- 9:56acting under the dictates of Letre should be recreated the previous artin. That'
- 10:03s important there. If it' s repealed, if it gets browned off
- 10:07everything in this two- or three- month umbrella runs backwards. It should
- 10:13thus be interpreted, because neuc' s being rejected by Congress is as if
- 10:22it had not existed, but the time, but the time that was being
- 10:28applied today, for example. This is obviously going to be the subject of
- 10:31a discussion, not only at the political level, but at the judicial level.
- 10:37Yes, judicial. Our good, then there comes the discussion our Constitution.
- 10:43Our Constitution establishes a mechanism for sanctioning and dictating laws. And in this
- 10:48case let us remember that the legitimacy of the executive power is discussed to sanction
- 10:58this neu since the conditions established by the Constitution for this to happen did not
- 11:05exist. There' s basically no need or urgency. Basically Parliament could sit
- 11:13down, as it emerged from Decree seventy- six Bars twenty- three,
- 11:18for which extraordinary sections were called to Congress. And so the conditions required by
- 11:26the national Constitution for the executive branch to use legislative powers are prohibited by the
- 11:31Constitution itself and are granted exceptionally. He' s been violated. In this
- 11:41case, we do not have a decree which, with necessity and with Parliament,
- 11:48cannot meet. It has then been rejected on other grounds, on grounds
- 11:52of opportunity, merit or convenience. The very validity of this knot would be
- 11:58under attack here, which are not the conditions for the President to choose.
- 12:03I' m going to give an example for you to understand. There was
- 12:07a pandemic and the President then dictates a dneu. The constitutional conditions were in
- 12:15place. As long as there was a real need, which was the pandemic
- 12:18and the preventive and compulsory social isolation prevented Congress from sitting At that time there
- 12:26was no reminder that when Cristina made a consultation to sit for Zoom in her
- 12:33capacity as President of the Senate, the Court said she did not say goodbye,
- 12:41leaving it to the Senate itself to resolve it. Then there were these
- 12:45two conditions. A real urgency and impossibility of meeting Parliament. Then on a
- 12:52deneu deed for questions of opportunity, merit or convenience, say, Parliament does
- 12:56not share the criteria are the proposed solution for the executive branch. This denu
- 13:03can be argued to have been valid during its validity, but in this case
- 13:11the different situations. We are faced with an end bargain that the conditions required
- 13:18by the Constitution exist. The Constitution is very clear. The executive branch cannot
- 13:22legislate except for the castes that it lists in an extative manner and that in
- 13:30this case, in my opinion and in the opinion of all jurists, except
- 13:35with a few exceptions full of ideology, this decree is unconstitutional, so that
- 13:46if it is rejected or declared null and void by the judiciary, in my
- 13:52opinion, it should be collected at all times on the date of its dictation.
- 13:56Well, I' m just going back to today. Increase among pas
- 14:00leonin foae justice. You know, I' m a repeater, ordered you
- 14:05to stop the increase in covermet and give you two retirees. They are cases
- 14:07filed in San Martín and Morón, in Bronze de Buenos Aires, a man,
- 14:11a woman over sixty years of age and it was reported that they cannot
- 14:13face the new prices because of their level of income. We spoke also in
- 14:18February. You said the Court should intervene and that it should arrive in this
- 14:22particular country with so many interpretations, a line of reasoning and interpretations that the
- 14:28Court wants to let the politicians resolve the wrong ones. Call yourself a nebu
- 14:33on the lower stage after deputies or a single chamber or none. The Senate
- 14:37was pretty close to one of the highs of melain' s Friday education.
- 14:43I mean, it looks like the court is taking the body out of it.
- 14:46Let' s say it is. There are presentations by province, provincial
- 14:50states, even by prayer to the Court ended the judicial fair of a long
- 14:52time ago. The first mentioned one organized his activity of justice, not much
- 14:58so far. How are you the nod of intervention between quotation marks of the
- 15:01Court in all this series of presentations, to begin with, I recall from
- 15:05province, which are perhaps the ones that has the most weight. In some
- 15:09cases, the Court has original jurisdiction. One such case is when a province
- 15:15is active, as it did in the province of La Rioja in December and
- 15:22more recently in the province of Buenos Aires, among others, in December.
- 15:31The Antifipol Court then ratified during the month of January not to allow the judicial
- 15:37fair, thus delaying the instance of analysis that deserved urgent attention. In my
- 15:50opinion, the Court is obviously waiting for politicians who respond and come to your
- 15:56judgment to feel good, I sayÁlvaro the mess solve to you in Parliament
- 16:00and others or not me, Justice, in ideal terms, must intervene.
- 16:10In my opinion, the judiciary must be called upon to intervene and resolve these
- 16:15conflicts. But it is a power as it happens to be, and to
- 16:22a large extent, all power also manages politics. In the times of politics
- 16:27and the language of politics and they have specific needs of politics. So,
- 16:37many times judges get carried away by the circumstances of time and occasion. If
- 16:45we remember what happened more than twenty years ago, with the thong. There
- 16:52was a judge of first instance, the late Dr Silva Garretón, who granted
- 16:59the first precautionary measures and the Court. It was rejected in the precautionary measures
- 17:06through a persalt and it was the activity of the people who began to surround
- 17:14the courts to initiate their own lawsuit. Let us remember that there were long
- 17:18queues and blocks of queues in the court area, which caused the Court to
- 17:23change your judgment and to have conflicting judgements in a very short time, which
- 17:30finally led to political judgment being given to the members of the Court at that
- 17:37time and others moved. But people must keep in mind that the rights that
- 17:45are not defended are lost, which is important not only in social or political
- 17:52mobilization, but sometimes also the courts have come to promote reflection in defense of
- 17:57their rights. Those who have initiated actions today on the subject of Mexina are
- 18:06preparing to obtain precautionary measures. Don' t tell all the cases, because
- 18:12there is Hucia from Buenos Aires who are also at the moment making time,
- 18:21throwing the ball. They were football terms and they are not giving an answer
- 18:25with the urgency that the case requires. And also on the subject of prepaid
- 18:30medicine surprise and worry the statements of the medical suis holder. What days have
- 18:40passed, in a television note he made known that it was a product,
- 18:45a service for an Eite, not for everyone. In my case, as
- 18:49a user of medical swit, I warned that between December and January I doubled
- 18:56the value of the quota Y and now comes the new fragment, in which
- 19:03it is a pintenable that pays attention to the tele economy of all of us.
- 19:07No yes, yes now to you and this something if this we already
- 19:12speak in ferrero. You' ve been surprised by this. You speak justice
- 19:15is a power, you should act, but you are within the game,
- 19:21so to speak of politics. You speak that you are carried away by needs,
- 19:23also of time and occasions surprises you. I don' t know how
- 19:29to rewind the court, so call it that no no. I' m
- 19:33not surprised. In the judges, the parties have deadlines, the lawyers have
- 19:37plates. We submit a brief one minute late, after the expiry of the
- 19:45first two hours, and we lose an appeal to a right. Judges,
- 19:51on the other hand, have no plans beyond the codes. Many times they
- 19:55set maximum times and limits, taking a year to detect a failure they could
- 20:03have drawn in fifteen days. Unfortunately, they have this plorrogático which obviously threatens
- 20:11the rights that can be disclosed, or the moral case. We' re
- 20:18not talking to ourselves. You talk what I do, what I want to
- 20:22consult you. It' s a punctual thing. Let' s just say
- 20:25it' s a big draw to my attention. I think quite the people
- 20:27in the subject this arrest of two people by some beings for a series of
- 20:33Twitch. Well, I think he' s been in the wrong way a
- 20:36lot. They generated morals going out to defend their intimacy, whether it was
- 20:40by no means to say it clearly or not what caught my attention from all
- 20:42this and you can, then, clarify your little ara. But I say
- 20:45promptly that you throw away the subject of Whatsapp. There was talk of a
- 20:48professional. I think he was an architect in genera. I think he'
- 20:51s architect that he was supposed to be abroad and that he was going back
- 20:53to the country. I had an order of intent for having spread in a
- 20:57group of whatsappo or doing for Whatsapp certain circulation of information and so on.
- 21:03I ask if I now send you Whatsapp Daniel Kepper or in a group that
- 21:08we integrate with Keeper and I say I don' t know this one,
- 21:14what I know the mouth technician is gay and the river technician is good,
- 21:18no matter a guarangada. This may take some form of what is called a
- 21:25judicial character if the mouth technician ovocates or whoever feels referred to or is a
- 21:29very private issue that does not even reiterate is the issue of social networks,
- 21:33which are public in general. I' m talking about private fatty. I
- 21:36feel like a wasapp group saving the distance with the technological additions, the same
- 21:41thing I saw in a bar Let' s talk right or wrong about a
- 21:44person. Let' s say some intimate authority, let' s say yes,
- 21:48before I hurt to answer you about the morals, I believe that what
- 21:52should be pointed out that the English publicist Governor Morales must be a genius,
- 22:00because they have managed to get the whole country to talk about Gerardo Morales why?
- 22:06But for more, for more, not for better. Some argue that
- 22:11the important thing is to talk about it. It doesn' t matter whether
- 22:15it' s right or wrong, the important thing is to talk about it.
- 22:17Already achieved with this kind of legal action promoted the moral governor and yes
- 22:23that holds the moral governor, because it is a bit. I heard it
- 22:29in a journalistic note where he gave an account of the situation of the judicial
- 22:33proceedings that he had initiated and even began to cry in an attitude for me
- 22:42unhappy. But good. Everyone reacts to these situations as they can, to
- 22:47cope with them, obligava, as he can, but I do not find
- 22:55it unconceptable from the advertising point of view, to take such legal actions.
- 23:00One has to measure the effects of a judicial process before initiating it. It
- 23:06was clear and obvious that this was not going to remain anonymous, it was
- 23:11going to be commented on by everyone, not only by the political world or
- 23:15by the legal world, but by the joke of every Gotis program. But
- 23:22it' s a Jujuy theme, being a national resonance theme. Well,
- 23:29and then we find out from this case that in Hotboy province there is a
- 23:34government- addicted judiciary, there are no constitutional guarantees, if there are no
- 23:41procedural guarantees. This has been denounced by some in the theatre of Milan Rosara
- 23:48a long time ago, and it is now evident from this case, which
- 23:52affected two people who had about forty- fifty days detained by a minor gossip
- 24:00and let' s go free by public pressure from the media and so on.
- 24:06That' s why they' re regular, but they' re free,
- 24:11but they still have to face it. Of course it' s a
- 24:14c process and the figure goes to the technical. The criminal offence is to
- 24:18make a person' s marital status uncertain, altered or suppressed. Obviously,
- 24:26there is no alteration or suppression of a person' s marital status for commenting
- 24:34on an alleged infidelity, but there is also no uncertainty about the marital status
- 24:41for such comments. I mean, it was a weird old lady he made.
- 24:45The film of justice is uy to make uncertain, although it is an
- 24:49expression with little defined contours, but the doctrine often teaches that it is necessary
- 24:56to create a situation that does not allow to establish accurately the state is meddling
- 25:06that person and in this case it is easy to establish the marital status of
- 25:11the minor. I think it' s a girl. Just get a DNA
- 25:15test and it' s easily determined. Now, what if the defense,
- 25:21in the judicial process, asks for DNA because based on the argument of the
- 25:27prosecutor himself, the marital status of the minor becomes uncertain, yes, indeed
- 25:33son is daughter of the moral governor. Now, if it weren' t,
- 25:41it would happen otherwise, it had altered her marital status by noting her
- 25:48as the daughter of a father who isn' t. While the topic would
- 25:52merit further analysis to see whether the objective and objective elements of the figure were
- 25:57given, because in principle, every child born in a marriage was presumed to
- 26:03have been the husband. But beyond this, what happens if the defense asks
- 26:11for this proof. He really says I don' t know if the defenders
- 26:18won' t. I have not had dialogues with them, but obviously the
- 26:23typical action of making the marital status of the minor uncertain is not configured by
- 26:30a mere barial gossip. Otherwise, let us think of certain communicators who made
- 26:37the gossip peaks of audience, of rating on television and walk me commenting on
- 26:44these types of situations that curano was unfaithful and that tricked me and sutana.
- 26:49I don' t want to name them, because I respect their memory.
- 26:52Some have passed away, but we all remember these very common programs. So
- 27:00it' s a mere gossip going It could thus configure another type of crime
- 27:07that has other connotations and another characterism why it could be a moral advance by
- 27:12insults, let' s say by infodia, not so much moral, but
- 27:19rather his wife, even if it might be good or indirectly titular of some
- 27:26occasion or it puts the gravio because it affects the band, the honor,
- 27:30the honor. Well, that' s what I was asking, Daniel,
- 27:33what about whatsapp. I am asking on this subject that it is certainly not
- 27:37too legislated. You' ll correct me. It' s not the same
- 27:40thing that I send to you or integrating a group saying such a thing or
- 27:45the worst things of a person, is to say, at a dinner,
- 27:48in an intimate environment and to the extent that it reaches communication in the aggrieved
- 27:57person, it can set up an insult communication to a third party. But
- 28:04in this case, that private communication didn' t really come. Except for
- 28:10the judicial investigation he has heard the bon of the people affected because it was
- 28:17a private chat. It was in private chat from that private chat. In
- 28:22the prosecutor' s hypothesis, a second person and is a Twitter post,
- 28:29but without citing the source. Let' s say with which the chart remained
- 28:37private and thus is the judicial investigation reach, as giving this second person sub
- 28:41cell phone warns that the source of their information can that private communion. In
- 28:48my opinion, it' s another urge being made, but it has a
- 28:55very strong authoritarian sense of pretending to frighten who it is they think wrong,
- 29:04whether political or personally, of determined by you And this is an issue that
- 29:11affects democracy, affects institutions, affects constitutional guarantees and is perhaps one of the
- 29:18few points I can share from the speech of the other day with President Javier
- 29:26Milarondalude to this fact. Well to see many people have consulted me on this
- 29:33topic of Whatsapp suppose it is a working group that the employee to John tells
- 29:36Catherine that this boss is a lead. I' d kill him, and
- 29:41besides, I' m so gross. It' s cuckold if this message
- 29:45reaches the boss, the blind or the manager because it' s given away
- 29:51by a third. That can give cause to a private chat. I'
- 29:55m just talking about private eche. I' m not talking about a task
- 29:57force or a task force. Nothing can give grounds for dismissal to be able
- 30:00to give rise to a trial for insults. A private message, let'
- 30:03s say, can give cause for a cause of this kind that you mention
- 30:07to them. We are imagining that in some way, that message in private
- 30:12transcends, that is, bon you send me a message in private and I
- 30:18publish. Fernando told me such a thing. You give it to him by
- 30:22a third party, and the third party pleads with him. Yes, I
- 30:25don' t forward it to the affected person, because it matters so much.
- 30:29That' s why it' s important that I make it up to
- 30:33you and if you make it up to you, you forward it to the
- 30:37third and the third are sent to the affected fourth. It' s like
- 30:38a chain is even more complex that type. There the expectation of honor has
- 30:47spread. It reaches the affected person' s ears. Yeah, yeah,
- 30:52yeah, and it can make up an insult. I can crown the crime
- 30:56in dishonouring someone else' s chain I say forgiveness. Yeah, this young
- 31:04message chain, it' s one way to discredit the other people. I
- 31:11' m not sorry. What happens is that in groups, in all things
- 31:14it is spoken with total lightness of informality. I think people seem to me
- 31:18to be so aware of this. I do not say from this case,
- 31:21that I was interested and more than one asked me what people are not aware
- 31:23of what they write, It is believed that it remains in the private sphere
- 31:26and that even if someone replicates it, it circulates that I know and say
- 31:30that good. I said it my intimacy and I already say it seems like
- 31:36people' s issue is handled completely. I don' t say networks,
- 31:38I say Whatsapp, which is something more intimate and private, like people'
- 31:41s orders are handled with total freedom. But before, you see, the
- 31:45same thing happened. The same thing used to happen in a letter. If
- 31:49a person sent him a letter in diligence, he came to another city to
- 31:57receive it from his recipient and that letter contained an offense, a discredit to
- 32:07another person. This could also shape the day of strong agreement. They gave
- 32:14the conditions of the figure. I don' t understand. What happens is
- 32:16that we understand these times of speed, of dynamics in which we live.
- 32:21One has a hand, it' s the place, the claw. They
- 32:22put anything, anything to comment in a second. On the other hand,
- 32:24in the epistolary, it took a time of react, even if it is
- 32:29ten lines, It came in a concentration, a greater rigurasity, so to
- 32:32speak, in these lable times, as Bauman would say, let' s
- 32:37say liquid times that you put yes, it is a good hair, I
- 32:39say it is a hair of a cornuro. I mean, that could give
- 32:42someone a problem tomorrow, be it a job or be civil. That might
- 32:45have a problem. I think people know but one thing is insult, which
- 32:51is a misdemeanor, private distance where even the possibility of replactation to extinguish the
- 32:58criminal action and another thing, two people are accused and have it for their
- 33:05own. No, no, it' s not so much of having done,
- 33:10it' s true the marital status of a minor for having even commented
- 33:17on the infidelity, because I read the Twitter and says I taught her to
- 33:23play, to touch it well, but now yes, yes, as they
- 33:30are crazy po, now we cut, now we cut. I send you
- 33:30whatsapp that says. Thank you, Daniel and Gerardo Roman. Gerardo Moral is
- 33:35a very corrupt man. We all know that. I' m saying something
- 33:37that' s an invention. I mean for example. I want to give
- 33:39and that I don' t know by h by b that comment of mine
- 33:45you transcend and tomorrow Gerardo Moral initiates a cause to me. That may be,
- 33:47or it may not be. Keep it ay dishonor and credit in you
- 33:52good, good for that, but that constitutes a crime of private action.
- 33:57It' s an impa saves the least penalty that you prun before. Gentlemen
- 34:04of Batan duel for this kind of comment. It was not the case that
- 34:14since the 1960s, the mourning disappeared from national history, but the crime of
- 34:20insult allows for retraction. By contrast, the abolition of the civil state is
- 34:28a crime of public action with a severe penalty. This is what happened under
- 34:32the dictatorship, with the suspicion of minors that was done there. Your award
- 34:39certainly altered the marital status by handing over to the family that were not blood,
- 34:49no yes, yes. The work of the grandmothers and mothers of the
- 34:53square of magicians, recovering children and grandchildren has brought this to light and the
- 35:00comment of thirty thousand was called attention. The President really gives it is that
- 35:08it really is thirty thousand or eight thousand. They are totally dictatorships, which
- 35:17express a dictatorship, they are dead who deserve the respect and rejection of all
- 35:22of us. Daniel Le, I' m spending a very long half an
- 35:25hour. We catch again next week or next week or the next week or
- 35:28the other. But I say, and that' s why I don'
- 35:30t want that song, because I don' t have time anymore and I
- 35:32' m expecting a next interview. If I want, it' s part
- 35:36of the people next week or the other. Just to equip the issue of
- 35:40crime, of humanity, of everything that ends you Ferri with issuing currency as
- 35:44intended or projected by the government, is another total delirium of justice. Well
- 35:52he said you really know that he wants to equate one thing with another,
- 35:55that is, I mean to put it as crazy as it was, because
- 36:02not to be included against little jobs in Congressional authorization. Well that, because
- 36:07that' s even more serious. Yes, a is a subject that is
- 36:13often subdued by the advertising media, but much of us are sergent evils and
- 36:19not that there is that we have. Yes, of course, Nardin Rivadavia,
- 36:25we have totally submerged in high interest payments. Totally, Daniel, a
- 36:32big hug and thank you, a hug, Fernando. See you later,
- 36:37thanks, Daniel Kepper. Here in material Judis, our specialist in judicial matters,
- 36:39we missed him and he had some problem. Luckily, he recovered,
- 36:42Daniel, so we didn' t have him on the February closing. Well,
- 36:45we got it back. We' re going to have it now a
- 36:47little bit more often to make up for and we had a long talk.
- 36:50It was a pleasure for as I told Daniel, there are a lot of
- 36:53judicial issues and you' re going to see a lot in the Millay government,
- 36:57so we have it there by hand to Daniel, who are always nice.
- 36:59Okay, pause it. After that we talked about economy with Agustín Montreverdes
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- 38:05Let' s luvar Agustín Monteverde. We promised them, Augustine, good afternoon,
- 38:07how it goes. Good afternoon, how are you? Fernando good,
- 38:12good. Thank you for your attention. Okay. I am asking you essentially
- 38:15to try to review much on the agenda as soon as possible in the answer.
- 38:19If we don' t tend you a lot and I do nothing but
- 38:21three or four questions, if not longer. My law has just predicted inflation
- 38:23of about fifteen percent by February. It' s a little bit of a
- 38:29number being handled. Some argue that seasonality March, which is a heavy month
- 38:34in that sense, would not go down and could even go up a bit
- 38:37by March. How you look at the inflationary scenario a little bit. Well,
- 38:42March, it' s true, it has this inflationary solity. The
- 38:47truth is that at the end of March and next to being a little lower
- 38:53of February for here. But, well, it' s also going to
- 38:59include the moments of Tarifa. I am no longer dealing with nationals, who
- 39:04fundamentally affect the amba, but with increases in the status of governors. No,
- 39:13then that' s gonna lift the national IPC. No. But I
- 39:20' d tell you for now that I' m confident it' s going
- 39:23to be lower than I' m scrubbing and in how long. Also the
- 39:27old man I' m saying. The truth is, it was eight or
- 39:29nine. It' s not a big deal. It won' t be
- 39:30the most fento thing, it' s a formidable feat. Okay. That
- 39:36' s what our friend Macita left us. It' s okay with conchin
- 39:39feeling pressure, but I' d say two every three. Inconsistent with what
- 39:45I always said is that the logical thing would have been that December would have
- 39:52had instead of twenty- five or fifty or more. Okay, this has
- 40:00got to be clear. There we started different and, to top it off,
- 40:06as in the whole process of rising high inflation, then there would be
- 40:19what would be expected was for us to spend a summer of the thousand demons.
- 40:21And, in fact and in fact analysts in general saw it that way,
- 40:27so we' re going through it. It' s not happening.
- 40:29The bowl so far a very good performance, is not having a summer of
- 40:34a thousand demons. The worker' s ticket, not to mention the retiree,
- 40:38the merchant, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Obviously, there' s
- 40:42no money, but you don' t have to be with people inside this
- 40:49perfect. Put it on people and what you give him where he gets the
- 40:52money. No more. You can take off, you can put power in,
- 41:00just as you put the fuel tax back on. I don' t
- 41:02know how to look, I don' t know from the gambling industry,
- 41:07tax extensions, privilege retirements. I was perfect and how do you think it
- 41:14closes that with a level of what level of unemployment and unemployment closes up raising
- 41:23taxes and now it' s not going to be. It is justified because
- 41:25it has the investment, not the consumption, the multiplier effect. He doesn
- 41:30' t have the investment. When you, what you do is take tax
- 41:38cuts, grab anything to give hard to the imposed you. What you'
- 41:46re getting is that individuals don' t invest in lunch, that they have
- 41:54in anything, that people don' t invest in renovating their house, and
- 42:01that small, medium- sized, and large companies do the same. To
- 42:09eliminate concretely, but it is an impossible silver. There' s no money,
- 42:15there' s no you. You tell me to raise taxes and who
- 42:15you take it from. No, not good to the same people that you
- 42:20' re going to give him, that' s going to give him at
- 42:22the time eliminate, because all that says, all that' s going to
- 42:28have an impact on the value of the goods. Everything you' re telling
- 42:30me is true, Ustei is. But today it' s not impacting.
- 42:34No, it' s not affecting me any less. That' s the
- 42:36thing. That' s the thing. The point is precisely that the fall
- 42:39in consumption is to me that loves to repeat to all journalists. One counts
- 42:45along the way that drop in consumption, in which it comes to curbing chic
- 42:51prices and this same market mechanism, are the ones that times can organizations easier
- 42:55to accelerate inflammation. Sure. Of course that' s exactly slowing down inflation
- 43:04is generating. It' s very simple when you hear those who have this
- 43:09beach of explosion complain, because people don' t leave the car inside anymore.
- 43:16Well, start. It' s actually the prologue to the solution,
- 43:22because this means that this apprehension is going to lower the value, because it
- 43:28doesn' t help to have empty garages. Or that' s where I
- 43:32start things. Okay. There are some sectors that are characterized. Martin You
- 43:37are just presenting a project for them to retract so soon you prepare them,
- 43:40I say one, you do not see that because people go to the predado,
- 43:44the truth excuse bardon. The case of the prepayan knows who cartelized them,
- 43:50they were cartelized by the previous administrations setting limits to all. Then,
- 43:57of course, obviously all that grabs and makes common cause. It is logical
- 44:04now to cartelize in the sense of fixing a common price. Not what they
- 44:07set, what they remember among themselves is as an increase in lost ground.
- 44:14You haven' t heard that doctors were mischarged from the prepaid, that they
- 44:20were erased from the prepaid. You haven' t heard that customers are clear
- 44:24the bankruptcy is bad and late. The only way to recover the situation of
- 44:30clinics and doctors is for prepaid doctors to be able to meet their business standards.
- 44:37If you don' t meet your business issue at some point, what
- 44:40you' re going to get is that you don' t exist anymore.
- 44:43The Argentine medical system is one of the best medical systems in the world and
- 44:46we have destroyed it at the hands of this. So, now, as
- 44:52long as the prepaid get too crazy, what they' re going to get
- 44:55is that the fall that I' m sure there' s already a drop
- 45:01in the amount of prepaid affiliate, make that drop capital. As the fall
- 45:06becomes important alone you prepare them. They' re gonna have to react.
- 45:12They' re going to have to react because it' s no use to
- 45:19them that I was going to feel and the price mechanisms that govern the whole
- 45:22world. That' s good. What he says in his project is that
- 45:28you don' t notice campis anymore in the services or in the working conditions
- 45:31of doctors. So there hasn' t been an improvement, as I said
- 45:36in terms of equations. But to see you after he wants that because the
- 45:40prices have been fixed before yesterday today they have already changed to the brand of
- 45:50the tomographers. It' s not like that. No, no, it
- 45:52' s not like that. You' d have to put tits on to
- 45:58handle some clinical prep or do this MRI what you want me to tell you
- 46:07right, the market party keeps coming down. Luxury or a thousand pesos.
- 46:14The side with like is less than one thousand fifty thousand forty- eight.
- 46:16It is a gap of just the twenty accelerates, which or in your opinion
- 46:21would have to accelerate a very probable horizon out of the stocks, taking advantage
- 46:27of the moment is the issue of the liquidation of the rough harvest, that
- 46:31you can press if it does not have a good d it stop, but
- 46:35it does facilitate it. But I think that in the area of commenting on
- 46:38the good news, which I think is very good the ones that are and
- 46:45are true, I think that waiting for what the good news is for is
- 46:50with the marked isolated from the deep reality of the problems, because it does
- 46:55not need to know from the depth of the problems remains a more absent one
- 47:08that ignores more this the magnitude of the problems that still have to be solved.
- 47:13Uncommunal. Uncommunal. I want to be clear. If we bring all
- 47:21the Nobel Prizes of living economy to Argentina and put together a cabinet with them
- 47:29to advise us in the solution of problems, believe me that those people would
- 47:34have terrible problems to solve them because they are not of not that they are
- 47:40of easy solution. Some seem to have no solution other than when you receive,
- 47:47if you are able to prove the way in the Mayo Clinic, probably
- 47:52one of the best health center in the world, and you receive. There
- 47:59' s a lot of stuff you get and you solve it like you can
- 48:01' t solve it in other places. But there are some things that don
- 48:05' t work out at the Mayo Clinic. You understand well. This is
- 48:08the severity of the damage that was inflicted on Argentina consciously and on purpose,
- 48:16not only by the record, but by the mother. This is the big
- 48:20harpa damage. The truth. I can' t leave you any trouble.
- 48:23Games some of the themes by certain hard a little more techniques, but I
- 48:30have no problem making them. Why consciously say, because all that was done
- 48:36was done to save the one who was and to sink the one who was
- 48:45coming full weapon. It was still clear. The point was to stand still.
- 48:51The point was that the previous administration was well stopped and the one who
- 48:57comes to burst in the face could gain more change any or. The brother
- 49:05was able to win, too. It also explodes in the bomb. If
- 49:09I gained mass, bingo, bingo, because it was a possibility they didn
- 49:16' t even compute and once you have the power, then you think of
- 49:21who you break her skull ok as simple as that were going to deal with
- 49:27the same critters that were handled for sixteen years. So, here the first
- 49:37sixteen years here, how, how long knots The theme was very clear.
- 49:49The bombs were, they left all the bombs ready to blow up in the
- 49:52face. In his face there was already his way and more small but of
- 49:58less explosive power. Cristina had also done it at the time with how much
- 50:05more time, how much there is of blender, how much there is of
- 50:09real in the super habit of January and perhaps it is the one of February,
- 50:14kicking, etcetera, etcetera. Let' s see, first of all,
- 50:20I think the blender subsumes something much more important, which is simply that
- 50:24the expense was cut. As simple as that, instead of talking about blender
- 50:29first, let' s first talk about actually cutting the expense, that is,
- 50:31he stopped spending what he did. Stop, stop, stop? Stop?
- 50:36Stop? Stop? Stop? Stop? Stop? Wait it was buy
- 50:39pyre but it stopped spending why. Because you didn' t, because you
- 50:45threw away retirement even worse. It' s not public, you didn'
- 50:47t send, say, the provinces, etcetera. Let' s say no,
- 50:51because you took the bills if you didn' t pay them, which
- 50:53was what the previous administration did. Well, Camesa is lucky enough to distribute
- 50:55the energy issue, no yes, yes, but with Shirts it' s
- 51:00going to cancel every last penny, because otherwise, no, we don'
- 51:04t have light, so don' t have any trouble. That' s
- 51:08not even where Ler came in, because if you don' t have light,
- 51:13so of course you can' t even let go of the excel sheet
- 51:16you understand to go on. So, going back to the fact that I
- 51:22can tell you about the latrocinies they did with Camesa in the sixteen years I
- 51:28mentioned. I' m not sure I do, depending on the timing.
- 51:30I don' t doubt it. Then I think I' m good.
- 51:37He didn' t tell me the most important thing is that he cut the
- 51:38cat. You were on that line more than talking at the equator. Of
- 51:43course he cut the expense. Some parts of expenditure that were cut are structural.
- 51:51Others, of course, are going to have to start making recompositions in
- 51:55the coming months. That' s beyond doubt. But while we are going
- 52:00to have to start resetting the issue of retirements, which is something that obviously
- 52:07needs to be done and which the President has already given a signal as to
- 52:15where his hand will come from. Forgive me that is to keep humping the
- 52:21retired, because you, if you give him the inflation that happened in January,
- 52:23February March make you hole in the state again and you will lose it
- 52:27again fighting would not be not you if you know that later, but the
- 52:34fact of also starting to distinguish. Retirees look more like the social plan than
- 52:45retirement for prairies. That first is an acquired right with all the salutations,
- 52:50I think I' m also the main one. The first acquired right that
- 52:54I have is that state I do not spoliate with its taxes. It is
- 52:59the main right that I love, that I have even well, but in
- 53:01which the population is or is loved. All bus spirits and let me pass
- 53:07I have given it for you and, therefore, it can be removed by
- 53:10gentleness or it can be trimmed by gentleness. Can' t remove shame It
- 53:15' s a little excuse right, it won' t see you. Yeah,
- 53:19he didn' t contribute. Maybe he can. One endured his life.
- 53:22Which means the word Jubilatin Augustine. Everything a politician does, political power
- 53:28is by votes. There is no way to vote. I' m saying
- 53:32if he was given his j well, that' s, that' s
- 53:35your opinion. It' s just going to be terrible. There' s
- 53:37gotta be the ACS. Your massimistic bration. But there are people who don
- 53:44' t. There are people who didn' t want to not contribute,
- 53:46people who the domestic employer, whatever it is, didn' t contribute to
- 53:49it, no, no, no, I don' t agree in any
- 53:55way, that no way matters. It wasn' t for the first one.
- 53:58There is contribution and there is what is called the employer' s contribution
- 54:02and personal contribution. There are people who had neither employer' s contribution nor
- 54:07personal input. Come on, then that' s got to be blank.
- 54:10For one thing, I' ll give you black boots, but if you
- 54:15' ll mind me, you' ll pay for black. There aren'
- 54:16t two things. As if tomorrow you take me in the company, go
- 54:22green and company and pay me in black, there will be no contribution from
- 54:23either way. Or I' m wrong, I remember out there day.
- 54:28Yes and how and what the system is. It' s a problem.
- 54:32It' s a problem, a problem for each other. But no,
- 54:37no, that doesn' t give you the right to a retirement. Yes,
- 54:43but yes. There are people who labored and can' t stand up.
- 54:49You can' t take blanks, sign up for stand- alone status,
- 54:55sign up for stand- alone status, and contribute to the autonomous box.
- 54:59There are people who are like the only domestic employee down there people who
- 55:02exploit it because you work in black, you don' t work that I
- 55:06come a domestic employee you tell me ah Fernando, only the future what is
- 55:07quiet. Oh, self- informer. You can contribute the box as autonomous.
- 55:14No. No, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
- 55:15no, no, no. He' s going to provide an autonomous
- 55:17box with one with the bear' s reach to see the problem forget it,
- 55:24yes, I understand them, but the problem is that they didn'
- 55:28t contribute. So, there' s nowhere to give them. It'
- 55:32s not the same, I agree it' s not the same. I
- 55:37agree it' s the public. It' s not the same and it
- 55:43' s not the same. I agree now. On the other hand,
- 55:44it' s a right that again got fucked up and why they didn'
- 55:46t make the contribution you went out alone to tell me something else. How
- 55:52did you get this thing out, how clear I said that the President already
- 55:55gave the indication of where the issue is going to come from. Hey,
- 55:59there' s gonna be, you' re gonna distinguish between retirees and those
- 56:02who aren' t retirees. I said I found the solution that was applied
- 56:07wrong. They should have fallen into another bag. It' s not the
- 56:09same. He agreed with the one that contributed all sectors. Dude, that
- 56:13' s, that' s what I first tell you hand they' re
- 56:16gonna pull him out, not even if they' re gonna pull him out,
- 56:20be tea. It' s not the same and I' m in
- 56:22black. They' re not giving me that table to give back some of
- 56:24that. Yeah, they' re discounting him at those people' s plant.
- 56:27No, they' re not answering a dick. If you' re
- 56:29in black. It' s all right, you' re leaving him a
- 56:30dick. Like, like, if you' re in black, you don
- 56:35' t carry anyone, you don' t need to polo your mind what
- 56:40new cisa you work in black. Yeah, you' ll grab and make
- 56:43a changa. I don' t know where perfect and thank you when they
- 56:49give you the money and you leave and nobody puts money for retirement. Like
- 56:55I said, they' re good. We were with him, with him
- 56:58it is sustainable, this super abi and from January to March God kicking things
- 57:00and when they are not achieved. He' s not behind this. I
- 57:06mean, on the cutting side, I was saying that along with those things
- 57:09that are cut off the expense, but at some point we have to recompose.
- 57:15Well, what I needed to say is that to the part of that
- 57:16there are those that are already of a more structural character? What are character?
- 57:23What are the structural ones that have been cut, that the public works
- 57:28have been cut, the public works of a structural nature? It is that
- 57:32yes, yes, what else, the discretionary transfers of the treasure, yes,
- 57:43the transference, yes. That will now be followed by those who come
- 57:52from the reform, to those who come from the reforms to the extent that
- 57:58I am not going to reform because they do not leave you good. Evidently,
- 58:06the harder the adjustment is going to be. So, as for this
- 58:09thing that I still step on when you know that several investment banks alert you
- 58:16that my law might not tame the impoverishment that generates your mega adjustment. What
- 58:21' s the analysis doing now that you' re talking about more adjustment?
- 58:24How I repeated the question that I didn' t. I' m not
- 58:28reading you a Textuals are three investment banks that I have everyone. I have
- 58:30my law. He might not dominate the, that is, what he was
- 58:34asked a little bit, the Monetary Fund and moms that do it or to
- 58:37be able to collect. It might not dominate the impoverishment that generates its mega
- 58:42adjustment, because if it could go too far for you. On that side,
- 58:44say social, let' s say my law has said that there will
- 58:46be no uprising, except that it has handled you by politics puts it quite
- 58:50obo and so on. But I mean, you can tame the social foal.
- 58:54Increased unemployment, e g higher nobel employment or significant growths major unemployment,
- 59:00Not obviously, that some unemployment has to be generated only by cuts in public
- 59:09employees that are already more public. Besides the public page, you know they
- 59:14keep making families and I think the government is more eager for action. The
- 59:17world is also very cruel and lacking. Augustine, Augustine, there is cruelty,
- 59:23a family. This way of saying this gives you cruelty, cruelty,
- 59:28there is a lack of sensitivity. When the spokesman comes out to say they
- 59:30fabricate good boy the one that follows when there are seven hundred family and I
- 59:35am not even against the one that dissolves cloth, but it is clear good
- 59:37you can go out to rejoice when a public job or the job that is,
- 59:40if it is, is left without labura. No, I wouldn'
- 59:42t rejoice at all. Not at all. Adory did it. I don
- 59:45' t tell you, don' t I throw it at you? In
- 59:47no way have you worked for us the government neither son, like all the
- 59:52Argentines of good that they do not stop stealing seven hundred types for not only
- 1:00:00will not do anything, but will live at our expense and doing doctrine of
- 1:00:06sight serve and another heap of rejoice all over abound, over personal degenerate,
- 1:00:13but one cannot rejoice when people stayed the job beyond that they have entered by
- 1:00:16friend or whatever is labor, they did not have, they did not do
- 1:00:22a pom, they only did harm. That' s the point. Why
- 1:00:27do they only give yes, because they were only engaged in doctrine on behalf
- 1:00:32of the Government. When did they do it? When did they do it?
- 1:00:37If not to give directly, not to attend employment. Staying extra days
- 1:00:45on les twitter Laura and Marco. It' s really enough that journalists'
- 1:00:53tweets for states don' t wait for the clarity about the nation or one
- 1:01:01I guess and tell me another what I can tell you. That' s
- 1:01:04why I' m telling you more than an interview. It' s a
- 1:01:05debate we have. We' re not, well, good at batin,
- 1:01:09good at people who are going to avoid you throw me off the one side,
- 1:01:14well, I' ll give you the other side. No. I
- 1:01:15get the devil too. I told you not even that Luis, not even
- 1:01:20what he has but not if you are from the door of heaven. I
- 1:01:25didn' t even tell you that you have it It' s wrong for
- 1:01:30them to close it. I don' t know. I' m getting
- 1:01:36on the other end and you know I don' t have anything as a
- 1:01:38quinnerist, so neither. But don' t be angry. It' s
- 1:01:40not a mess, it' s a debate, ideas, not respect.
- 1:01:44We' ve got to get it right now. It is a question only
- 1:01:47here is the simple light mentality and there in the other it is a humanizing
- 1:01:55mentality. But Bernacle is the one of not how you' re going to
- 1:02:05remember that it' s from that and from there. In the meantime,
- 1:02:09that progressive is the one that' s been melting and now there' s
- 1:02:14no money to get. Well, this model is no question, it'
- 1:02:16s not easy to solve. This model is not seen in any. This
- 1:02:21model doesn' t look anywhere in the world. No one applies this model.
- 1:02:23Not first, that' s an absolute fallacy. I mean, if
- 1:02:32no one does, then why are we gonna do it? Then let'
- 1:02:36s say I have what we' re like. We are so much I
- 1:02:38propose strength, not just us, because electric light does not use anyone.
- 1:02:44The electric light didn' t use anyone, but you didn' t.
- 1:02:47Yeah, you can use the electric light. Jubi with us. That is,
- 1:02:52it has power, as always, not good archety. Power. You
- 1:02:55haven' t heard of Repentina, not potential. I' m not saying
- 1:03:00that for pons Just a little while ago I found all the Adorno stuff and
- 1:03:02I didn' t tell you how to work. I didn' t tell
- 1:03:04him for you to tell him about Adorney, I don' t throw it
- 1:03:07at you with the voice, yes, but the Argentina thing, power,
- 1:03:09you don' t get me hearing good. There' s psychic talk about
- 1:03:10what we' re going to do, which is that we can make ourselves
- 1:03:13that we' ve been the first part of the price world. The thing
- 1:03:14to be done must be done independently whether it is done here or where.
- 1:03:20Well, okay, well, he wanted to tell me time. Thankful for
- 1:03:22the talk. Don' t be mad. I think it was a debate
- 1:03:24interview. There wasn' t much difference, but well what just, you
- 1:03:30just have to frame each point one open. Well, well, sure.
- 1:03:35Thanks to you, Agustín, big hug and friend, Thank you Agustín Montedora
- 1:03:37of plulan construction. We spent a little bit of time, we apologized.
- 1:03:40I' ll see you tomorrow night at 4: 00. Thank you,
- 1:03:44Juan Bye Bye. Plural construction. Driven by Fernando Mauri by Radio Tren topic