Latest / Mini Scroll / MINI SCROLL: Swifties take over Bluesky, Chappell Roan calls out Billboard + Australia's under-16 social media ban
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- 0:00Hi everyone, welcome to Mini Scroll, the daily Internet
- 0:04culture podcast bringing you the biggest stories from social
- 0:07media, the creator economy and the digital space every Monday
- 0:11through Thursday. I'm your host, Lauren Meisner,
- 0:14the founder of the youth digital media brand Centennial World.
- 0:19Welcome back to Mini Scroll, everyone.
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- 0:33inclined. All right, let's just get right
- 0:36into the stories for today. So the first story that I have
- 0:38for you guys is that Swifties are moving on Mass to Blue Sky.
- 0:44So according to Internet culture reporter Adam Sissel, Swifty's
- 0:48are apparently migrating on mass off of X and moving to blue Sky.
- 0:53So Blue sky, for anyone that's unfamiliar, it was slated as a
- 0:57strong Twitter competitor early on after Elon Musk took over,
- 1:01but it never really found the same cultural relevance or
- 1:05strongholds. I think part of that was the
- 1:06launch strategy. They did a good job in the sense
- 1:09that they kept it small for a bit so they could kind of like
- 1:12work out I think the different bugs and tweak the platform
- 1:16before they opened it to the public.
- 1:18However, they kind of announced the introduction of Blue Sky
- 1:21when Elon Musk took Twitter over and they weren't quite ready
- 1:25yet. You could only join if you had a
- 1:28specific code, if you were like invited.
- 1:30And I think the excitement around Blue Sky died down really
- 1:34quickly. However, this might change
- 1:37things. So this started to happen post
- 1:40US election and part of how it worked was on Blue Sky you can
- 1:45have your own unique domain name at the end of your handle.
- 1:48So a Swifty set it up where fans could add themselves to the
- 1:53Swifty domain to show that they are a stand.
- 1:55And so far nearly 8000 people have added their username to
- 1:59Swifties dot social. So it would be like Lauren
- 2:02Meissner dot swifties dot social instead of just like at Lauren
- 2:05Meissner on Twitter or whatever. So as Ryan Prodrick writes for
- 2:08Garbage Day Quote, even cooler Swifties are using a Blue Sky
- 2:12labeler to tag one another. This is the kind of user
- 2:15behavior I've been waiting to see.
- 2:17It's totally unique to the platform and opens up a lot of
- 2:19different use cases going forward.
- 2:22And apparently since all of this started, the activity on Blue
- 2:26Sky is going way up. So I feel like maybe this is the
- 2:30Blue Sky moment. This is like the Twitter
- 2:32replacement moment that we have been waiting for.
- 2:35So watch this space and get on Blue Sky because I don't think
- 2:38it's invite only anymore. OK, the next story that I have
- 2:40for you guys is that Chapel Roan has called out Billboard for
- 2:44reporting on her split with her management team.
- 2:47So earlier this week it was reported that Chapel Roan had
- 2:50parted with her management team, whom she's been with since 2018.
- 2:55Now this was a topic of discussion.
- 2:57People have been saying that it seems like her management team
- 3:01isn't necessarily serving her anymore or like protecting her
- 3:05in the ways that she needed to be as she enters this new phase
- 3:09of her career, which is like global superstar, right?
- 3:13If you think about her career from 2018 to now, it is so
- 3:16different. And that difference happened
- 3:19within what, maybe like six months.
- 3:21So this was big news, right? This was big news given the
- 3:24context. And Billboard reported on it and
- 3:27they posted this story to their Instagram.
- 3:29So the caption that they posted read Chapel.
- 3:31Rhone has split from her management team, sources
- 3:34confirmed to Billboard. The news comes after the
- 3:36breakout star scored her first slate of Grammy nominations,
- 3:39including in all of the BIG4 categories.
- 3:42Rhone's nods were notably left off.
- 3:44A congratulatory post shared from the Instagram account
- 3:48account for state-of-the-art, the company Roan was previously
- 3:51signed to with Nick Bobteski as her manager.
- 3:55So OK, that happened. And then shortly after that was
- 3:59posted and that made news. Chapel saw this and she
- 4:02commented y'all suck for this on the Billboard Instagram.
- 4:07And that has, of course, caused a lot of discussion about like
- 4:12her response to this. I think, OK, first, I think it
- 4:16makes sense that she has split with her management now.
- 4:18I think the same team that helps you grow and build your brand
- 4:23to, you know, what it has become for her.
- 4:25I don't think that's necessarily going to be the same team that
- 4:29is able to help you navigate global superstardom.
- 4:32Now. It reminds me of like the
- 4:34founder journey, you know, like some founders are like startup
- 4:38founders and some founders are like middle of the road or like
- 4:42kind of later stage founders where they can run the business,
- 4:46like the business administration, they can run
- 4:48that really well, you know, as the CEO or whatever, once the
- 4:51business is scaled. But the person that scales the
- 4:54business isn't always going to be the right person to run the
- 4:57business once it is at a certain level.
- 4:59And I think that's probably what happened here.
- 5:02I think Chapel, I have like no idea my opinion on why Chapel
- 5:06commented this. I'm thinking it probably has
- 5:08something to do with the Grammy side of it all.
- 5:10I think she's kind of saying like, stop trying to infer bad
- 5:14blood between us. Stop trying to like put this
- 5:17wedge between myself and my former management team.
- 5:20Obviously she was with them for six years.
- 5:21That's a long time. They probably, I'm assuming, had
- 5:24a decent relationship. You know, so I think she was
- 5:27probably pissed about how this was spun.
- 5:29I don't think she was necessarily pissed that this was
- 5:33reported on because in billboards defense, you know,
- 5:36they are obviously one of the biggest music news outlets in
- 5:40the world and a global superstar, somebody as famous
- 5:44and important and influential as Chapel Roan to music right now.
- 5:48Like her changing management teams like that actually would
- 5:51make news no matter who it was. So I don't necessarily think she
- 5:54was mad that they reported on it because it is normal to report
- 5:57on that. I guess it's like if an athlete
- 6:00changes teams or they get a new coach or I don't know, like an
- 6:04an actor moves to a new management like we see all the
- 6:06time. There's news stories all the
- 6:08time when actors or public figures move to like get signed
- 6:13with UTA or like, you know, big agencies like that is normal to
- 6:17be reporting on. It's like industry news, right?
- 6:19It's industry news. So I don't think she's mad about
- 6:22that. I think she's probably mad about
- 6:24the inference of like the drama, possibly the Grammy side of it.
- 6:28All right. And the last story that I have
- 6:30for you guys, it's a little more Australian news.
- 6:33Also, I did want to say sorry. So when I reported on the Bonnie
- 6:36Blues story yesterday, there was a big important piece that I
- 6:39missed. And this is like my, this is
- 6:42like my cross to bear because I do a daily podcast.
- 6:45I can course correct like the next day, like I'll see feedback
- 6:48and I'll be like, Oh my, or I'll be editing.
- 6:50This happens to me all the time and editing.
- 6:51I'm like, Oh my God, I missed that point.
- 6:53I didn't say, you know what I wanted to say where I didn't
- 6:56articulate it well. And so sometimes the next day
- 6:58I'll come on here and I'll like correct myself.
- 7:00And I'm actually trying to do that less because then it's just
- 7:03like me constantly like trying to reiterate what I wanted to
- 7:07say from the day previously, which just like makes no sense.
- 7:11But I did want to say with the Bonnie Blue story, the piece
- 7:14that I did miss talking about was in relation to the fact that
- 7:17like she is marketing herself as somebody who is like, you know,
- 7:22creating content with barely legal men.
- 7:25And there is that hypocrisy because women have been part of
- 7:28this kind of like barely legal category in sexual content for
- 7:33decades, right? So there is like this hypocrisy,
- 7:36this like double standard there where we have this like outrage
- 7:39when she's trying to appeal to these young men who are barely
- 7:41really legal, but like the content for barely legal women
- 7:45in porn and you know, different types of content like that has
- 7:48been around forever. So that is a piece that I
- 7:51missed. Absolutely.
- 7:52OK. But yes, So some more Australian
- 7:54news. So Australia is to ban social
- 7:58media for kids under 16. Last week, Australia's federal
- 8:03government announced that in under 16, social media ban
- 8:07policy was underway. So according to Business
- 8:10Insider, quote, Albanese, who if you guys don't know is our Prime
- 8:15Minister here in Australia, told reporters that the proposed law
- 8:18would put the onus on social media companies to show that
- 8:21they are taking reasonable steps to keep children off of their
- 8:24apps and not on parents. There will be no penalties for
- 8:28users. Albanese said the ban wouldn't
- 8:31start for at least a year. So this would give social media
- 8:34platforms 12 months to figure out how to implement stronger
- 8:37age gating before the law is enforced.
- 8:40OK, so something to note here which I think is sometimes
- 8:44missed in the reporting on this specific ban is how Australian
- 8:49media and their relations with Meta, specifically Meta, like
- 8:54social media but specifically Meta, have played somewhat of a
- 8:58role here. Basically, in February of this
- 9:00year, Meta announced it would not be renewing its news deals
- 9:04with Australian publishers under the News Media Bargaining Code.
- 9:08So for anyone that does not know what that is, three years ago
- 9:11Meta signed deals with Australian news outlets
- 9:13following the introduction of the News Media Bargaining Code.
- 9:17This code required tech giants like Meta to pay for displaying
- 9:21news on their platforms. So basically what that means was
- 9:24these tech giants like Meta were paying Australian publishers.
- 9:29Obviously not everyone. We have never seen a dime, you
- 9:33know, we're too small for that. But a lot of the really big
- 9:36publishers were getting money from the social media platforms
- 9:40as part of this code. So according to the government,
- 9:43these deals provided Australian publishers with up to $200
- 9:47million. Obviously Meta saying that they
- 9:50won't renew. This was a huge blow to these
- 9:52publishers who were under this code and getting money from
- 9:55Meta. Now there are like a lot of
- 9:57other like ramifications to Australian media and the whole
- 10:00industry because of this, but that is for another day.
- 10:05How this impacted the social media bans.
- 10:07So understandably, a lot of publishers started going after
- 10:10Meta. And in May, News Corp, which is
- 10:13one of our biggest media companies here, launched a
- 10:16campaign called Let Kids be kids, quote, calling on the
- 10:20federal government to raise the age limit to access social media
- 10:23216 to stop the scourge. Sorry, I don't know how to say
- 10:26that word. Scourge of social media and give
- 10:30our kids back three years of childhood.
- 10:33So that's not to say that this campaign by News Corp led to the
- 10:37ban, but it definitely played a role in how Australians
- 10:41perceived the idea. So like I said last week, last
- 10:44Thursday it was announced that this policy would be put in
- 10:47place. So the reception to this has
- 10:50been very mixed. Some people think it's a great
- 10:52initiative, others think it's basically like a Band-Aid
- 10:55solution to a much bigger problem.
- 10:58On the plus side, I guess the the effects of social media on
- 11:01teenage brains, mental health, probably social development,
- 11:05probably a lot of things I'm sure is not great.
- 11:09But of course, on the flip side, like I always say, Internet
- 11:13culture and culture are one in the same, especially for younger
- 11:18generations. Like you cannot separate what is
- 11:21happening in their online world or in our online world even.
- 11:24Like, I'm obviously not Gen. Z, although so many of you guys
- 11:27were so nice yesterday saying that it looks so young.
- 11:31But yeah, like, you can't separate what happens online
- 11:35with what happens in real life because they are just so
- 11:38intertwined at this point for most of us.
- 11:41Millie Bannister, founder of youth mental health charity All
- 11:44Kind in Australia, says this is, quote, not a sweeping win for
- 11:48young people. This is a Peace of Mind Band-Aid
- 11:51for parents. We cannot replicate the Gen.
- 11:53X childhood. We live with the Internet and we
- 11:56grow up online. Therefore we need education, not
- 11:59prohibition. I think it's a band solution in
- 12:02the sense that, yeah, like we all need, like there needs to
- 12:06be, I don't know, maybe this is starting to be implemented, but
- 12:08there absolutely needs to be like social media literacy
- 12:12courses taught in schools, but also taught to parents and
- 12:18government officials, policy makers, so they can understand
- 12:22what they're even making policies about.
- 12:24I don't need to explain all of the examples that we have now of
- 12:28the people who make the laws and make the policies, just having
- 12:32no idea what they're talking about when they're speaking with
- 12:35these tech giants. I mean, I think we none of us
- 12:37will ever forget. Do you commit to banning Fensta?
- 12:42It's like the best example. So yeah, I think of course it
- 12:47does come down to educating young people, but it also comes
- 12:51down to the people who are making these policies like they
- 12:54need to understand like what to actually specifically push back
- 12:57on the platforms for. And that feels like too big of,
- 13:03I guess, a project and ask. And therefore, this is like a
- 13:07sweeping Band-Aid. And I also think because this
- 13:10hasn't happened from the start, kids have been living online on
- 13:14social media. They're not going to give that
- 13:15up. They're just going to find ways
- 13:17to work around this, which I think is going to lead to like
- 13:21greater risk for the children, the parents.
- 13:24But I don't have children. So I'm actually really
- 13:26interested to hear from you guys, especially if you do have
- 13:29kids, like what you think of this because I think in theory,
- 13:33yeah. Do I think kids under 16 should
- 13:36be on social media? Not necessarily.
- 13:38But I also think it's unrealistic to expect that they
- 13:43won't be at this point. And I think creating this ban is
- 13:47especially since, like I said, they've all been like, they've
- 13:50all had social media. They're not just going to give
- 13:52it up. I think it is not going to have
- 13:56the desired effect. Anyways guys, that's it for mini
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