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Our Super Bowl Week Finale with Champions, Executives & Changemakers · Get Real with Jim Weiss

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  Speaker 1: Time to get real with TJ. Ward. I'm really excited
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  Speaker 1: to have you here because you're local. I am from
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  Speaker 1: San Francisco, yep, coming up here from LA and he's
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  Speaker 1: the real deal. Okay, super Bowl fifty ten years ago
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  Speaker 1: in San Francisco. How amazing was that? What it feel
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  Speaker 1: like to win the Super Bowl in your hometown? It
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  Speaker 1: was a dream come true? I mean a slow.
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  Speaker 2: Motion, slow motion victory as we won, and everything just
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  Speaker 2: came back to me from starting my journey here in
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco Bay area.
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  Speaker 3: So just an amazing, amazing experience.
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  Speaker 1: Well on, get real. We want to know the origin story.
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  Speaker 1: So how did it all get started? TJ?
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  Speaker 4: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: I was born here in San Francisco in the Bayview District.
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  Speaker 2: Then we moved to Antioch into East Bay when I
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  Speaker 2: was about eight years old, and that's when I started
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  Speaker 2: playing football for the Antioch Youth football organization. Went to
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  Speaker 2: Dallas South High School, played there, didn't play much until.
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  Speaker 3: My senior year.
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  Speaker 2: Then I broke my knee my senior year in high
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  Speaker 2: school doing that final season and had to get healthy.
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  Speaker 2: So I ended up walking on at the University of
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  Speaker 2: Oregon and had a couple of more injuries early while
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  Speaker 2: I was there. Started my junior year, had a really
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  Speaker 2: really good junior year, made second team or honorable mentioned
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  Speaker 2: All League packed ten at that time. Came back from
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  Speaker 2: my senior year, had a high angle spring first game
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  Speaker 2: of that time.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: So I missed half of my senior year again and
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  Speaker 2: no it all being a blessing. Still got drafted second round,
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  Speaker 2: went number thirty eight overall to the Cleveland Browns. Played
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  Speaker 2: four years there, signed a free agent deal with the
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  Speaker 2: Denver Broncos, won a Super Bowl in my second year
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  Speaker 2: with them. Played one more year for the Broncos, then
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  Speaker 2: they released me and I got picked up by the
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  Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and played one year in Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 2: and that was pretty much my last full season. I
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  Speaker 2: had a small stint with the Arizona Cardinals for a
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  Speaker 2: little while, and once I retired about twenty twenty, I
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  Speaker 2: started my sports agency which has now transitioned to sports
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  Speaker 2: Agency and NIL.
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  Speaker 3: Management and Marketing.
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  Speaker 1: Good yeah, good. I wanted to talk about this, and
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  Speaker 1: then last.
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  Speaker 2: Year I started my podcast, Safety First. So I've been
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  Speaker 2: doing that this past season, just talking about the game,
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  Speaker 2: talking about the week to week content in the NFL
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  Speaker 2: and halfway through the season, I got picked up by
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  Speaker 2: Arena Gridiron.
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  Speaker 1: WHI skip Bayless to come and overcome injury and win
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring? I mean, how did it happen?
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  Speaker 1: What's your secret? What is it about you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Man? I will say hard work.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's something not not special.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, you know, hard work, determination, man, and continually to
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  Speaker 2: focus on what you want to get done no matter
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  Speaker 2: what steps in your I'm pretty sure that you've had
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  Speaker 2: some obstacles that for sure didn't know they were coming
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  Speaker 2: and didn't know when they would stop. But no matter what,
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  Speaker 2: you got to keep going. You got to keep persisting.
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  Speaker 2: If you really want something, you got to keep going
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  Speaker 2: after it, no matter what happens.
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  Speaker 1: So we've been talking a lot with different guests this
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  Speaker 1: week about leaving the bubble of pro football, it maybe
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  Speaker 1: college football. What was it like to retire and you know,
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  Speaker 1: it sounded like you went right into business. Was there
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  Speaker 1: a transition? Was it easy? Hard? Not?
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  Speaker 2: No, there was a transition during I would say the pivot,
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  Speaker 2: like there wasn't much time off of because I just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to keep active and find something.
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  Speaker 3: To really pursue. And my dad, he was an entrepreneur.
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  Speaker 2: He worked out here, had his own building maintenance company
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  Speaker 2: called Ward Building Maintenance WBM, and I just seen his
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  Speaker 2: daily hustle growing up as daily grind and getting up
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  Speaker 2: and working late hours, working early hours, coming back and
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  Speaker 2: forth from San Francisco to Antioch, and I knew I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be.
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  Speaker 3: In control of what I was doing as a professionalist.
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  Speaker 1: So I can relate to that as an entrepreneur starting
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  Speaker 1: a business. Right, what do you think is the most
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  Speaker 1: important thing as an entrepreneur? You know, you mentor people
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  Speaker 1: and you know what do you tell them?
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  Speaker 3: I think it's putting the correct team around you.
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  Speaker 2: Finding the correct team and that works well together. You
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  Speaker 2: guys don't always have to be chummy chummy and get along,
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  Speaker 2: but people with work ethic, same goals in mind, and
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's about being pursuing
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  Speaker 2: one goal right, and you know sometimes you have to
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  Speaker 2: give and take, you know some things and even as
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  Speaker 2: the boss conform and listen.
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  Speaker 1: Years still I'm still working, yeah, working on it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's definitely something that you need. Man, the team
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  Speaker 2: around you is so important.
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  Speaker 1: Well, listening to talent. It's not something and it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: come naturally to many people, especially given what you've had
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  Speaker 1: to do. And you know, I think what what turned
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  Speaker 1: the worm? Did? Something happened that made you realize I
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  Speaker 1: gotta change the way I approach that.
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  Speaker 2: I think kind of the lessons I learned in football
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  Speaker 2: getting injured, like realizing that anything can be gone in
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  Speaker 2: an instance. And then another thing I would say is
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  Speaker 2: trying to be responsible for everything. It's too stressful, it's
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  Speaker 2: too hard, like trying to control every little factor of
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  Speaker 2: your business. You just have to trust, like you do
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  Speaker 2: in sports, or like I did in sports, Like you
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  Speaker 2: have to trust that the right guard is going to
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  Speaker 2: do his thing. You're gonna have to trust that the
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  Speaker 2: corner has studied and it's going to handle his responsibilities.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why it's so important to getting the right
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  Speaker 2: people in your building.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny that we are talking a
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  Speaker 1: lot about sports and business, and it would I would
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  Speaker 1: think the sporting experience makes you more prepared to build
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  Speaker 1: a business Because of the things you just said. I
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  Speaker 1: guess what's been the biggest challenge to scaling and growing
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  Speaker 1: your business so far?
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  Speaker 3: Man, it's so challenging.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think I've gotten to that level where
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  Speaker 2: it's been a huge scale.
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  Speaker 3: We're still at the you know.
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  Speaker 2: The lower levels of this building. But you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: building and understanding. It takes time and you can't rush anything,
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  Speaker 2: but we're scaling and adding.
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  Speaker 3: New pieces daily and weekly.
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  Speaker 1: And communication.
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  Speaker 2: Keep keep the communication lines open because we can't read
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  Speaker 2: each other's minds, and if you're thinking it's something, then
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  Speaker 2: you have to relay that and vice versus. So we
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  Speaker 2: know right wrong or indifferent. We know where we're at.
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  Speaker 2: We're not assuming.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I always say, well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what my firm is about is communications. Communications is leadership.
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  Speaker 1: Leadership is communications. That's what I've you know, espoused in
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  Speaker 1: the years. I'm in year twenty five. I got twenty
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  Speaker 1: five hundred people that work for us now, and you
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  Speaker 1: know it's something you can do. Yeah, you're feeling an
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  Speaker 1: unmatt need. What is that unmatt need in the market
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  Speaker 1: that you're feeling with your business checks and.
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  Speaker 2: Balances, the roles and responsibilities, it's still you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 2: some of those get blurred, Sometimes the lines get blurred,
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  Speaker 2: and in making sure everybody's handling what they're supposed to handle,
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  Speaker 2: I can't help it.
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  Speaker 3: Personally is like, let me step in and do that,
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  Speaker 3: like I'll just do it type and it's like, oh no,
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  Speaker 3: don't do it.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what I'm probably learning the most right now.
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  Speaker 2: Like you said, it's a skill. They gotta work at it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, are they watching you work? Are they
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  Speaker 1: going to do the job right? So you gotta give
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  Speaker 1: them a chance to do it. But that's Look, that's
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  Speaker 1: probably the hardest thing to realize where you stop and
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  Speaker 1: they start.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's not easy to find good workers.
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  Speaker 2: It's not you think, you know, coming away from the
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  Speaker 2: sports world that in the I will guess just a
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  Speaker 2: normal working world, people don't have that ethic in them.
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  Speaker 3: They don't.
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  Speaker 1: Some do, but a lot you can teach that, right,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's something.
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  Speaker 2: That you usually you can be taught that, but it
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  Speaker 2: has to start at a young age.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, you change the culture of business by
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  Speaker 1: who you hire. Is there someone on your team right
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  Speaker 1: now who's making a difference and changing the trajectory.
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  Speaker 3: I have a few people, you know, my partners, my friends,
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  Speaker 3: and family.
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  Speaker 2: I bounce a lot of advice off from them, especially
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  Speaker 2: my dad and my mom about how I should handle
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  Speaker 2: certain situations, how shall handle certain partnerships. And I think
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  Speaker 2: in both of my businesses is handling the business.
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  Speaker 3: And the back office before you start putting feet to.
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  Speaker 1: Payment, balancing out that. I don't think people appreciate when
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  Speaker 1: you start your own business and it's all your money. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: usually I mean, you know, or friends and family, which
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  Speaker 1: is even more intense, you know, having that. Now that
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  Speaker 1: I've sold the private equity, I have a board and
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  Speaker 1: all the things that you know come with that. But
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of glad I got them, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because they gave me some boundaries, you know, So what's
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  Speaker 1: next steps here? I mean, what what do you see
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  Speaker 1: coming up for their business in the next year.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to just expand and get better, get better
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  Speaker 2: at the concent and get better guests, you know, as
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  Speaker 2: far as the agency in NIL is making my network bigger,
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  Speaker 2: getting contact with more collectives and gms and colleges. I
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  Speaker 2: know a lot of coaches already right now. I was
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  Speaker 2: just up at Cal. It was funny because I was
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  Speaker 2: a Cal Saturday, I flew back to LA to get
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  Speaker 2: ready and then I flew back here Tuesday. So balancing
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  Speaker 2: the two businesses and is really probably my most difficult
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  Speaker 2: part because I started them at the same time.
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  Speaker 1: And there's another bit. It's a family business.
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  Speaker 2: Family business which is the family foundation, which is the
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  Speaker 2: Warboy Project, and creating a board. We did that in
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  Speaker 2: the last two years, which has helped us tremendously.
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  Speaker 1: What's the focus of that.
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  Speaker 2: Our focus is youth development, whether it's providing scholarships to
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  Speaker 2: private schools, whether it's health and wellness, you know, financial literacy, mentorship.
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  Speaker 2: My grandmother was a huge community activist out here in
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco in the seventies and eighties, turn Shirley Jones,
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  Speaker 2: and she worked with Mayor Willie Brown, and she had
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  Speaker 2: daycares in the Bayview Hunter's Point community and she's always
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  Speaker 2: been a pillar of the community. So just being a
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  Speaker 2: part of the community, helping kids in the community has
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  Speaker 2: always been.
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  Speaker 3: Something in our family blood. Like it's something we do.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you do, and you're gonna keep doing. So
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  Speaker 1: before we wrap up, I just, you know, always ask
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  Speaker 1: a couple of easy lobby questions, but they're fun, so
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  Speaker 1: we aren't gonna be so serious. All right, tell me
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  Speaker 1: what's the best vacation you've ever been on?
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  Speaker 2: The best vacation I've been on was I just went
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  Speaker 2: to Spain. I think it was two years ago, and
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  Speaker 2: we did the Below Deck show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Man Wasterrane.
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  Speaker 2: Mediterranean right up to speak it. I didn't know it
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  Speaker 2: was a big show. And when I did it, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know it was such a big show. I was
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  Speaker 2: so behaved, I was pretty I was pretty somber. But
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  Speaker 2: I had some great moments on the show.
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  Speaker 3: Like it was. We were on the Yaffa a few days.
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  Speaker 2: We stopped in Germany, Berlin for the first day, and
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  Speaker 2: then we flew to the Spain and once we got
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  Speaker 2: off the boat for the two days. We stayed in
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  Speaker 2: Spain for two days and we flew back to Berlin
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  Speaker 2: and flew back.
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  Speaker 1: It was my first for me there is it Captain Sandy.
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  Speaker 3: Or j Sandy? It was Sandy. She was great.
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  Speaker 2: The whole crew was great. We chad sometimes on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: of the and it was a great time. But other
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  Speaker 2: than that, I liked the Caribbean, so I had a
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  Speaker 2: good time in Grenada. Grenada is a good island.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
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  Speaker 3: The people are great down there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you. My best vacation, I would say,
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  Speaker 1: was a vacation to Israel with two families and that
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  Speaker 1: was about long before all the problems that we've seen today.
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  Speaker 1: But boy, they were boiling up. We were there, so
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  Speaker 1: we learned a lot about that. And it's a complicated,
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  Speaker 1: messy situation, but boy did we learn a lot. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's some serious it's just stuff we're not
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  Speaker 1: used to here in America. I think we take a
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  Speaker 1: lot for granted the way we live, but those borders
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  Speaker 1: are not so secure as we now know, and so
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  Speaker 1: they I just you know, there's a feeling of incredible
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  Speaker 1: culture and pride and Diversity'd be surprised there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of diversity in that country. So I learned a lot.
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  Speaker 1: That was my favorite one. Okay, you're turning the tables, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: sound well, No, that's okay. I like it. Soundtrack of
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  Speaker 1: your life? If there was one, what would the album
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  Speaker 1: soundtrack of my life?
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  Speaker 3: That is a good one.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not like, I'm more of a movie person than.
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  Speaker 2: If I was going to pick a song, it have
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  Speaker 2: to be something about being an underdog, maybe like I
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  Speaker 2: had a tiger or something. That's my son's favorite song.
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  Speaker 2: I love that he's like turning it into my favorite
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  Speaker 2: song because no such a message in it and.
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  Speaker 1: That's anything that he even knows that how old is?
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  Speaker 3: They's five?
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  Speaker 2: All right, Hey, that's what streaming bro like. Again, it's
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  Speaker 2: five years old and I of the tigers kidding? So
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  Speaker 2: what what's one thing You're gonna get real this whole week?
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  Speaker 2: Talking to folks around you know, at the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: I just like.
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  Speaker 2: Interaction with guys like yourself. Yesterday I went to a
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  Speaker 2: rich Eisen wine party and I met a guy as
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  Speaker 2: head of the v Foundation and just exchanging knowledge. I
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  Speaker 2: like to just get as much knowledge as I can.
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  Speaker 2: I used to use this as an opportunity just to
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  Speaker 2: party in my younger days, but you know, I stopped
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  Speaker 2: drinking two years ago, and it's probably the best thing
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  Speaker 2: I've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard that that really helped.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it helps me lot. I'm so much sharper and
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  Speaker 3: focus and.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm trying to I'm gon try that, but uh.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just want to make as many contexts as
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  Speaker 2: I can and see where.
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  Speaker 1: Things is the theme I'm hearing, you know, it's not
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  Speaker 1: just all the fun and games. It's you know, and
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  Speaker 1: some people are like the parties are fine, but where
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  Speaker 1: I really get value is the partnership.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly that exactly learning from guys like yourself. Thank you,
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate thank you for.
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  Speaker 1: Not calling me sir, which has happened once too many
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  Speaker 1: times this trip. All right, thank you very much. TJ. Ward.
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  Speaker 1: What a what an honor, what a pleasure. All right,
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  Speaker 1: we're getting real. We're getting real in the Starter lounge,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with Seana Carr, we're gonna hear their story,
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  Speaker 1: origin stories, what they want to get real about here
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  Speaker 1: at the super Bowl before I get started. Starter is awesome.
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  Speaker 1: I had my my vintage Starter on yesterday from Syracuse.
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  Speaker 1: It was quite quite amazing. But I always do like
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  Speaker 1: to start with a little bit of an origin story.
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  Speaker 1: Where you came from, why you do what you do,
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  Speaker 1: how you got where you are. We'll start with the
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  Speaker 1: man in blue.
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  Speaker 4: Sean Packard Son c b my guy, what's going on?
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  Speaker 6: Fellas good?
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  Speaker 4: Good?
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  Speaker 7: Thanks for being here. First of all, thank you for
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  Speaker 7: having me on the podcast. You got a nice little
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  Speaker 7: set up here. Then my brother called Banks always goes
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  Speaker 7: strong with the start of jackets.
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  Speaker 5: I've been winning since the eighties. And you got the
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  Speaker 5: bad bunny one on I got the bad buddy one.
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  Speaker 5: The moment I just can I just let you gotta
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  Speaker 5: know it's a moment. This is a moment like to
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  Speaker 5: be able to have a Bad Bunny Starter jacket for
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  Speaker 5: Super Bowl, this is it immediately becomes a collector's item.
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  Speaker 7: By the way, I love call and I came out
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  Speaker 7: to say hello, He's like, you know, I got the
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  Speaker 7: Bad Bunny Starter jackets in there.
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  Speaker 4: I said, I'll be right back. I'm this is this
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  Speaker 4: is epic.
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  Speaker 7: It is.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, you've got the biggest the biggest star in
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  Speaker 8: the world, and and.
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  Speaker 1: Who want to grammy like correct and the.
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  Speaker 8: Most iconic brand and sports Starter can come together and
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  Speaker 8: and put something that's a true collector's item.
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  Speaker 1: Now, But you're about being iconic, You're an icon yourself.
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  Speaker 6: I'm about you.
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  Speaker 8: Know what I think I think I'm about. I know
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  Speaker 8: that I'm about brand integrity, personal brand integrity and everything
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  Speaker 8: that I'm associated with that's consumer facing. It's all about integrity,
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  Speaker 8: you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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  Speaker 8: Teach that to my kids too, right, and so much
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  Speaker 8: so that I get lectured by my son sometimes if
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  Speaker 8: he thinks the logo is slightly off.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, now what does he do?
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  Speaker 4: He's a computer guy. He's a computer guy in the
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  Speaker 4: I think you met my daughter yes, Carmen, she's here.
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  Speaker 4: She'll be floating around here. She's a scientist.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, oh she is. We got into that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah, So integrity is important. Brand integrity is important.
• 18:15
  Speaker 8: I know Packers has been around a lot of entertainers
• 18:19
  Speaker 8: and athletes and he's done work with CIA, and you know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 8: branding is everything, but the integrity of that I think
• 18:27
  Speaker 8: is most important.
• 18:27
  Speaker 7: When you say, I mean call to tell you the truth,
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: just one be a Latino from the Bronx and coming
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: up in this business. You know, I started off with
• 18:36
  Speaker 7: music def Jab and then working for jay Z Rockney
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: says sports.
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: And now with CIA.
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: This is an iconic piece only because I've seen the
• 18:45
  Speaker 7: growth of Bad Buddy and for you to be able
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: to take that brand, start a brand and do a
• 18:51
  Speaker 7: collaboration with Bad Bunny for Super Bowl epic man, So congratulations,
• 18:56
  Speaker 7: brother Mantona started this is this is a real thing
• 18:59
  Speaker 7: right about.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Cultural moments, right, I mean, you know, creating and being
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: part not only part of it, but the catalyst for
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: cultural mods. I mean, and that's look, we work in
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: healthcare primarily, but one of the reasons I bought star
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Power was that you know, I needed and I thought
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: our clients needed a little bit more, you know, less
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: lecturing to the public and more listening to the public,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, because they were used to being doctors and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: you know, telling everybody what it was. It's like, no,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: we want to join join the big culture. Sure, and
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: these drugs cost a lot of money and people have
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: real life and death situations. We gotta we gotta tell
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a more I think personal story.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: You make it relatable if somebody, I mean, listen, we're
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: in a space now where you have to talk to
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: the consumer. Right. It's not necessarily the know this better
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: than I do, just the things that's on the label,
• 20:02
  Speaker 8: but you got to have something that's relatable.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: R and I see it more and more where people
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: are integrate.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: More.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: I would say, I would call it social currency into
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: speaking to their their consumer in the language that they understand.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Well, that's how people relate. They don't relate to everyone.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: We want to get the right person. So how do
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: you guys, and how have you matched up your celebrities
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and influencers where he's the guy, That's what I wanted
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to ask Sean.
• 20:34
  Speaker 8: He navigates celebrity from the minute he wakes up to
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: when he goes Yeah, so tell us you know how
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: you do it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 7: How do you do what you do? I mean a
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: lot of it is trust. You know, relationships go a
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: long way of call. As a guy that I met
• 20:51
  Speaker 7: just wasn't even really in the business at that time.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: I was just a New York Giants fan, a real
• 20:55
  Speaker 7: New York Giants fan. Yes I got I got to
• 20:58
  Speaker 7: tailgate every home game. I heard every time my team loses.
• 21:02
  Speaker 7: But I'm into business of sports and entertainment, so I
• 21:05
  Speaker 7: know about relationships. What I'm saying is what I figured
• 21:08
  Speaker 7: out was a way of just how to move people
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: around where they trust me, you know, And you just
• 21:13
  Speaker 7: got to treat people like real people when they want
• 21:16
  Speaker 7: to be respected and don't want to deal with others.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You respect that when it comes time to.
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: Go to work and apply to deliverables that sort of
• 21:23
  Speaker 7: coordinate with whatever brand situation that deals they have, you
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: just got to really sit down and lay it all
• 21:29
  Speaker 7: out to be transparent. So I think me being able
• 21:32
  Speaker 7: and growing up with a lot of music artists a
• 21:34
  Speaker 7: long time ago at deaf Jam and Arista, I think
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: it taught me how to deal with entertainers and sports
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: celebrities on that forefoot.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: You're saying something we talk about all the time, right, authenticity,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: good people. To me, that's Starter in a nutshell.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I have never been I've never walked into
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: a Starter lounge or dealt with any of your people
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: where I don't feel really good. Is that something you
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: guys think about culturally at Starter?
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: I mean you should feel good. You should feel good
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: about wearing the brand. We should feel good about the
• 22:11
  Speaker 8: people who represent the brand, which starts with me, but
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: there is we call them starter stories, right, Yeah, this
• 22:19
  Speaker 8: is a legacy brand and we want the legacy to continue.
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: And in order to do that, again, we've got to
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: speak a language that people understand, and it's not unwelcoming.
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: It has to be welcoming. We have to let you
• 22:34
  Speaker 8: create your own story with the brand. This next generation
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: and a generation after that have to continue to talk
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: about the legacy and what their Starter stories are.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: How's it stayed so cool all these years? Like that's
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: not easy to do? Well.
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: I think that goes back to David Beckerman, the original
• 22:53
  Speaker 8: founder of Starter. He may fandom a fashionable experience, and
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: that never happened before. So he revolutionized how you saw
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: the sidelines and It also revolutionized how fans wanted to
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: relate to their team, Like they wanted that cool satin
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: jacket that they saw Mike dickawareeah right, And it just
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: it went from every sport, every Olympic championship. It's been
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: a part of every American championship. Starter has been a
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: part of. So there's not an American sport that Starter
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: hasn't been a champion part of their championships. And so
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: I think it stays cool because it's a library archives
• 23:38
  Speaker 8: that go back to nineteen seventy one.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And it's respect for that, right, It's respect for that history.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: It's respect for long term relationships. Yes, is what it's
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: all about. Because I'm I'm actually kind of glad to
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: be sitting next to you because everyone I've interviewed like
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: so far or like thirty year olds, you know, and
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm as old as the super Bowl, you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: trying to be relevant? How do you stay I mean,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: so tell us how do you stay relevant? How do
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: how do your clients stay relevant?
• 24:11
  Speaker 7: I think it's it's learning, not being scared to learn
• 24:14
  Speaker 7: new things, new trends. You know, people two years ago
• 24:17
  Speaker 7: talking about AI to terrified the AI, But you got
• 24:20
  Speaker 7: to learn to embrace things, right bitcoin. All these other
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: things maybe they do well or they don't. But if
• 24:27
  Speaker 7: you don't take the time to learn and learn from
• 24:29
  Speaker 7: younger people and want to help younger people who are
• 24:31
  Speaker 7: younger to you to push them help push you up,
• 24:34
  Speaker 7: that's important too.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: Embracing the youth.
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: I keep my ear on the ground. I have young
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: people that work for me.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: So we call that reverse mentoring.
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: Now I gotta reverse your Syracuse guy.
• 24:44
  Speaker 7: My three started jackets right now, and I'm gonna tell
• 24:46
  Speaker 7: you where I'm at. My number one started jacket was
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: my Syracuse University.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: We need to tell you we got it. Where is it?
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: We got to posing that when I got it from Call,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: Thank you Call.
• 24:59
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you remember this, but when I
• 25:00
  Speaker 7: requested it, I requested like a medium, like why do
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: you want.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: Such a small one? I got Mellow the autograph.
• 25:08
  Speaker 7: With the championship year right every day, and I put
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: it in my current crab.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: I got that the frame, So that's number one.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: That's amazing.
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: I had number two at the Bill Belichick coaching Giants one.
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Red fire.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: But now I'm gonna have to swap build a three
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: and the bad bunnies.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: This is we don't take that, man, it's limited editions.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Now this is mellows.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: My guys, I can't right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So they're gonna they're gonna make us rob it up
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: so we can start our party. But I always like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: to ask a few fun questions at the end. First one,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: best vacation you've ever taken.
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: I just came back from the second Japan with some
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: of my fans. We had a good time out there.
• 25:55
  Speaker 7: Shout to my man Ronnie and there we had a
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: great time. I forgot that I had to screamed pizza,
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: pizza when I was going down to Black Diamond. Here
• 26:03
  Speaker 7: you shout to my brother sozza.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: For me, it's either Sardinia, total Santos they are gay
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: or Croatia until I went about three three years ago.
• 26:27
  Speaker 8: Best food ever out on the water there too. Isn't
• 26:31
  Speaker 8: there water there, but food is amazing. What is amazing
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: in Sardinia? But Sardinia is is my spot. That is
• 26:49
  Speaker 8: not a bad bottle of wine.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: All right. Next question is, uh, I'd like to know
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: if you had to put an album to be the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: soundtrack of your life, what would that album be?
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: It had to be a mixtape for me there, So I.
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: Think I've ever heard so many artists that are influential
• 27:14
  Speaker 8: and how you move because I'm I'm like Cold Train,
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Our Bait, Blakely to Prince to Michael to Daylight Soul Beautiful,
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: Like I can move in all of these spaces depending
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: on where where I wake up in the morning, and
• 27:30
  Speaker 8: then you know if I'm locking in or if I
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: need to distress. I don't think anything centers me more
• 27:39
  Speaker 8: than a John Cochrane. Oh nice, But like my soundtrack
• 27:45
  Speaker 8: is it's a mixtape. Yeah, that's good. I like that answer, Sean,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: what about you, man?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: This is a hard question.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I figured, yeah, it'd be hard, the hardest for music.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Maybe, I guess say in my lifetime, because my life
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: is more than one volume, so I'll probably say it
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: in my lifetime. I've come from very humble beginnings to
• 28:06
  Speaker 7: be very fortunate to be where I am today, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 7: I never would have gotten out there without my love
• 28:11
  Speaker 7: for my family and my friends and great relationships, so
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: in my lifetime as well.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Look, it was really awesome to get real with you guys.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you doing this partnership. Thank you. One
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: of the best things we've done. Ever, thank you, Thank
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: you for that. Let's go party. Hey everyone, we're getting
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: real back in the Starter lounge, having a great time
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: this week of Super Bowl. I mean, I can't believe
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the game hasn't happened yet. It feels like we've been
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: here for a few minutes. I have the amazing Carmen
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Banks sitting next to me. When you talk about science,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: what's your approach? How do you think about science?
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so, functionally as a scientist, I like to think
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: about it, what are the world's most challenging problems and
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: how can we solve those things? But also from a
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: lens of how can we create more opportunities for folks
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: who have been left out of the conversations. How can
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: we innovate things that might help communities that were not
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: typically thinking about.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Was there anything in your background or upbringing that would
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: have brought you into the world of science.
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So for me, I grew up not seeing many
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: people that look like me in the scientific field, and
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: so once I got really curious about how I could
• 29:35
  Speaker 9: create an impact in that industry, I became really determined
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: to use my position as a scientist as a platform
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: to bring more people into the field that look like me,
• 29:46
  Speaker 9: but also to bring in some fresh ideas that could
• 29:49
  Speaker 9: really benefit the field and benefit innovation as a whole.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Where did you go to school?
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: University of Maryland for my undergrad and University of California
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: Davis for my PhD.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Did anything surprised you as you got into both places?
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: You know, did people like you said you weren't what
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: people would typically expect to be in the scientific field.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Tell me did you encounter resistance or discouragement or did
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: you just get encouraged?
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean being a scientist is being discouraged almost
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: twenty four hours of the day of always doing experiments
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: that sometimes work, but most of the time it doesn't
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: because biology is just really hard. But I think the
• 30:29
  Speaker 9: most difficult thing for me when I was coming up
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: as a junior scientist was really the lack of resources
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: to turn a lot of my ideas and to communicate
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: the science with impact going into industry. So we tend
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: to see this gap between academia and industry that we
• 30:47
  Speaker 9: aren't getting the training that we need coming out of
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: undergrad or graduate school to become successful professionals that are
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: big pharm of companies or biotech startups.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Where are you applying your science background right now?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: What are you doing?
• 31:00
  Speaker 10: Yeah? So I apply my science in a lot of
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: different ways.
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: I started my career in food tech doing lab grown meat,
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: so that was pretty awesome to be able to contribute
• 31:08
  Speaker 9: to a lot of the ip around cellular engineering and
• 31:12
  Speaker 9: genome engineering for those cells that'll eventually become our food products.
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: Dabbled a little bit in drug discovery when my startup pivoted,
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: and now I'm working in ag tech to create some
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: solutions for airborne pathogens.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Wow, okay, that's pretty heavy stuff. How what's the application
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: in ag tech? What when this all becomes reality? What happens? Yeah,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: we have like really weird hay in grass and corn
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: or what what happens?
• 31:39
  Speaker 9: Yeah, So the challenge that we're working on right now
• 31:41
  Speaker 9: actually has to do with pathogens that affect a lot
• 31:45
  Speaker 9: of vineyards here in California, and so as far as
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: past management goes, a lot of farmers just aren't sure
• 31:52
  Speaker 9: when to spray their crops for specific types of fungi
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: or pathogens. And so what we're doing at my company
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: is helping our farmers have a better system for pest
• 32:02
  Speaker 9: management and to be able to detect some of these
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: pathogens earlier to save both money and to save the
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: environment a little bit with spraying their pesticide.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Is this your own startup or no, this is not
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: my own startup. O. Yeah, that's cool. So where do
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: you think you take it from here? What do you
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: think people misunderstand about what you do that needs to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: get understood?
• 32:24
  Speaker 10: Science is not as scary as people think it is.
• 32:28
  Speaker 9: I think a lot of people are discouraged from pursuing
• 32:30
  Speaker 9: the field, a lot of people are discouraged from asking
• 32:33
  Speaker 9: questions because of this knowledge gap that exists. But in reality,
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: the more you know, the more empowered you are to
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: make decisions. And so I think it's really important for
• 32:43
  Speaker 9: platforms like yourself to really open up these conversations about
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: how people are utilizing science, how it impacts the world
• 32:52
  Speaker 9: around us, and how it's not so scary and there's
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: a lot of opportunity for folks to create different things
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: that can change the world around us.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I know, it's really interesting that I'm here talking to you,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: and I have so many ideas about how we can
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: unlock you to make science interesting to more people. What
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: are you doing? You said, you're doing some stuff programmatically
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: in the community. I know, I work with something called
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Life Science Cares, which is a great organization both in
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: the Bay Area and Boston, but now going more national
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: about how we bring high school and some college student
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but primarily high school students into the science curriculum through
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: job experience in biotech, life sciences, pharmaceuticals, all those things.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Are you doing something similar?
• 33:40
  Speaker 10: I most certainly am so.
• 33:42
  Speaker 9: I founded and run a company called Melanin Science, and
• 33:45
  Speaker 9: at Melanin Science, we help the biotech and biopharma industry
• 33:49
  Speaker 9: identify our next generation of scientific leaders by bridging that
• 33:54
  Speaker 9: gap between academia, community and the industry.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Well, you may be the most elevant podcasts guests to
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: my podcast that I've had on.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: All week at the super Bowl.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Are you finding a receptive audience at the Super Bowl
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: where you might not think that's going to be a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: big topic.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:13
  Speaker 9: I mean again, it's really opening folks eyes to how
• 34:16
  Speaker 9: science interacts with a lot of different things.
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: So even down to the clothes.
• 34:20
  Speaker 9: That we're wearing or some of the jackets that starter
• 34:24
  Speaker 9: is generating, that's all coming from science. We need engineers,
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: we need material science folks, we need chemists, and so
• 34:32
  Speaker 9: having those conversations with people to understand that science isn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 9: as far away as they think they are.
• 34:38
  Speaker 10: Has opened up a lot of eyes this week.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Are we worried about agentic AI and all the scary
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: stuff we hear about it? Or is that's going to
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: help the field advance and maybe make more breakthroughs happen faster.
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 34:52
  Speaker 9: AI has a lot of potential not just in drug discovery,
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: but in other areas like agriculture, synthetic biology, biomanufacturing, and
• 35:01
  Speaker 9: so I think for us to generate new products, for
• 35:05
  Speaker 9: us to generate new therapeutics, for us to create more
• 35:09
  Speaker 9: solutions in the world, AI can be a very very
• 35:11
  Speaker 9: powerful tool.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Where are you based now.
• 35:14
  Speaker 10: I'm here in San Francisco?
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's great. Are you finding you know, things in
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: San Francisco exploding? Because I do kind of feel it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: the home of AI, or one of the homes of
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: AI internationally. What's the vibe?
• 35:29
  Speaker 9: I love being in San Francisco because it's such an
• 35:32
  Speaker 9: innovative environment. It is honestly a builder's playground, and so
• 35:38
  Speaker 9: the conversations that you'll have just even in line to
• 35:40
  Speaker 9: get your coffee, you'll learn something new and a new
• 35:44
  Speaker 9: way to create something or unlock a challenge that you faced.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: What's something you're getting real real about this week at
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 35:54
  Speaker 9: I think I'm getting real about how scientists can look
• 35:57
  Speaker 9: different than what you think. We're not just in lab
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: coats for in really cute leather jackets. We're in our
• 36:03
  Speaker 9: starter jackets. And we are very sociable too.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Yes you are, and you said you're introverted, but you're
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: obviously able to do this. Any partnering with industry on
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: this yet? Are there any yeahable partnerships?
• 36:15
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so we work pretty closely with Gilead to not
• 36:18
  Speaker 9: Allly Therapeutics as well, and was running a program for
• 36:21
  Speaker 9: yuc Davis in partnership with their biotechnology program called stem Connect.
• 36:26
  Speaker 10: So we're really excited about that.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Well, that's amazing. So I'm going to ask you a
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: very non scientific question because I think you're going to
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  Speaker 1: answer this question in a way no one else has either.
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  Speaker 1: This week, there's a soundtrack to your life? What would
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  Speaker 1: that be?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 10: What a good question. I might have to think about
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  Speaker 10: that one a little bit more.
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  Speaker 1: Well, while you tell me what the best vacation you've
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: ever been on.
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  Speaker 10: Oh, I just got back from Paris with my dad.
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  Speaker 9: That was a really really hard Had you been there
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  Speaker 9: before when I was younger? So this is like my
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  Speaker 9: first time going as an all and I really enjoyed.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what section of town you were?
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  Speaker 10: Honestly could not? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, were you near the Eiffel Tower?
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  Speaker 10: We were not. We were near the arct.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah. Then I trying to think what part
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  Speaker 1: of town that is. I mean, I used to live there,
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  Speaker 1: so I do get. It's been a long time.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, you're like the Louis Baiton flagship store, you know.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 1: Are we No, We're not blinging out, Actually I am.
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  Speaker 1: It's just very subtle. I love it for me anyway,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks so much, Carmen Banks for being here. You are
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  Speaker 1: just a breath of fresh air, and you're going to
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  Speaker 1: make the Super Bowl crowd just a little bit smarter
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  Speaker 1: and a little bit.
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  Speaker 10: Happier, I hope. So thanks so much for having all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, thank you, hey everyone, thanks for joining me on
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the Get Real podcast. You know, I hope you feel
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a little healthier hanging out with me. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: just to talk about healthcare, but a lot of other
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  Speaker 1: fun topics. It's about making healthy talk about healthcare. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a lecture. This is supposed to be fun. And
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  Speaker 1: look forward to spending more time with you in the future.