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Ep. 946: Foundations - How to Beat a Buck's Nose in Real Time · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide
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  Speaker 1: to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host
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  Speaker 1: Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which has brought to you by first Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about the reality
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  Speaker 2: of dealing with the wind and how many hunters get
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  Speaker 2: it wrong, especially in the early season when they're just
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  Speaker 2: getting going a tink about the primary ways you know
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  Speaker 2: that we spook deer. You know, we might get busted
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  Speaker 2: looking at our phones and not really thinking about our movement.
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  Speaker 2: Or we might you know, have a noisy ladder stand
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  Speaker 2: that pops and squeaks when we move, But mostly we
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  Speaker 2: just get winded. It's the reality of white tail hunting.
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  Speaker 2: And if you can't figure out how to beat their noses,
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  Speaker 2: you can't really figure out how to beat them. I
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  Speaker 2: think it's that simple, even though it's not all that sense.
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  Speaker 2: That's also what I'm going to talk about right now.
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  Speaker 2: A few weeks ago, I sweated my way through northeastern
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  Speaker 2: Nebraska while hanging stands and putting up blinds for a
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  Speaker 2: rut hunt. A cameraman is a guy who looks like
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  Speaker 2: he climbs mountains, and it turns out he does. Over
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  Speaker 2: the last years, so my daughters and I have gotten
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  Speaker 2: pretty into rock climbing documentaries and the idea that we
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  Speaker 2: too might someday, I don't know, go to a climbing
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  Speaker 2: gym where it's very safe and very climate controlled, and
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  Speaker 2: maybe try the kindergarten training wheels on type of climbing
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  Speaker 2: that isn't the real thing, but would make us feel
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  Speaker 2: a little bit like it kind of was. So I
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  Speaker 2: asked this guy a lot of questions, and I learned
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  Speaker 2: a hell of a lot about rock climbing from him.
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  Speaker 2: One thing he explained to me was how long it
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  Speaker 2: took to successfully climb certain routes, which meant getting all
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  Speaker 2: the way to the top without falling. I know that
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  Speaker 2: sounds pretty self evident, but he explained to me how
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  Speaker 2: often he falls, and how often a certain pitch or
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  Speaker 2: certain route will just get under your skin and force
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  Speaker 2: you to figure out each handhold and foothold, even if
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  Speaker 2: it takes you ten years to master it. It was
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  Speaker 2: super interesting and our conversation was top of mine when
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  Speaker 2: I stared up at another crooked ass tree in another
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  Speaker 2: spot in the Nebraska Sandhills and tried to not only
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  Speaker 2: envision my route up the tree, but how the hell
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  Speaker 2: i'd find two spots big and straight enough to hang
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  Speaker 2: a hunter stand and a camera stand. Hanging double sets
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  Speaker 2: in that area is a weird mixture of physical acrobatics
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  Speaker 2: and mental acrobatics. It's so easy to get wrong. And
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  Speaker 2: the big hang up I had, besides how unfriendly the
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  Speaker 2: trees are in that region, was how often i'd make
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  Speaker 2: a big concession win wise. This is something that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of keeping me up at night because not only do
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  Speaker 2: I need to go down there and try to shoot
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  Speaker 2: a big one on film, I need Steve Vanella and
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  Speaker 2: one of his buddies to have a really good hunt
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  Speaker 2: down there too. There aren't enough setups one guy could
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  Speaker 2: get up in the span of four or five days
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  Speaker 2: to cover all wind options in all the spots I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to hunt. So the voice in my head that
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  Speaker 2: talks me through this shit would go like this, Well,
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  Speaker 2: if you set up here, you can hunt a perfect
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  Speaker 2: south wind, but you're screwed. If a colt front hits
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  Speaker 2: and it comes out of the north, a west wind's
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  Speaker 2: pretty rough too. Then I'd look at another tree and
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  Speaker 2: the voice would say, well, if you set up here,
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  Speaker 2: you can hunt a perfect north wind, But if a
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  Speaker 2: warm front hits and it comes out of the south,
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  Speaker 2: you're screwed. A west wind is rough.
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  Speaker 1: Two.
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  Speaker 2: The thing about that region, and a hell of a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the Midwest, is that it's all gritted out
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  Speaker 2: in sections, or at least it was a long time ago.
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  Speaker 2: The roads framed out are in just like square miles,
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  Speaker 2: with each following the cardinal directions. The fence lines on
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the properties, and certainly the one I
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  Speaker 2: was on, follow those same directions. This means that the
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  Speaker 2: deer off I'm going to travel north, south or east west,
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  Speaker 2: and that means that a whole lot of the wind
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  Speaker 2: you might get during the rut is going to favor
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  Speaker 2: them heavily while keeping you in the danger zone. Besides
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  Speaker 2: the reality of crooked ass trees, this is also why
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  Speaker 2: I went with ground blinds more than I intended to.
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  Speaker 2: You can get a little bit bigger margin of error
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  Speaker 2: with ground blinds and wind, and that matters when you're
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  Speaker 2: working with razor thin margins. To begin with, the way
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  Speaker 2: that a lot of deer hunters approach this, at least
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  Speaker 2: if they are on private land, is to have some
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  Speaker 2: stands that are good for various winds and let the
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  Speaker 2: wind direction of the day decide it for them. I
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  Speaker 2: grew up hunting this way, and I can remember pretty
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  Speaker 2: vividly my dad turning on the weather channel on TV
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  Speaker 2: mind you, to check the predicted wind for the evening
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  Speaker 2: or the following morning. Then we decide on who would
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  Speaker 2: sit where based on the limited amount of stands that
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  Speaker 2: we had available. As you can imagine, we weren't exactly
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  Speaker 2: stacking up booners at that point in my life. We
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  Speaker 2: would also go mobile sometimes, either to hang a new
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  Speaker 2: set or just sit on the ground if we had
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  Speaker 2: the itch or the wind was doing something funky like
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  Speaker 2: blowing out of the east. Now maybe I only pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to this because my job depends on it, but
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  Speaker 2: I feel like at least fifty percent of the time
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  Speaker 2: I have a chance to hunt, the weather makes it really,
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  Speaker 2: really difficult. This goes for white tails, but just about
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  Speaker 2: every critter out there, you know from elk and you
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  Speaker 2: know mule's on down de peasants. In small game, it's
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  Speaker 2: the nature of nature and it often sucks. But with
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  Speaker 2: white tails we aren't entirely hopeless when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: win and what our options are. For starters, you can
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  Speaker 2: go by yourself a big old box blind and keep
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  Speaker 2: yourself mostly out of the wind, but that's not fool proof.
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  Speaker 2: You can buy a box blind and point an ozonics
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  Speaker 2: unit out of the downwind facing window, and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to increase your margin for error by quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: Not everyone wants to do that though, or has the means.
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  Speaker 2: Ground blinds just to pop up hub style ones, as
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  Speaker 2: I mentioned, can be a hedge against the win to
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  Speaker 2: some degree. And again, if you use an ozonics unit
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  Speaker 2: point out out of the blind in the right direction,
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  Speaker 2: you can do pretty well on fooling a deer's number
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  Speaker 2: one defense. But that means you have to hunt out
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  Speaker 2: of ground blind and that isn't that much fun for
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  Speaker 2: a lot of folks. So what do you do? Well?
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  Speaker 2: You can spray down, do whatever you need to, but
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  Speaker 2: you still need to play the win, and that's just
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  Speaker 2: kind of how it goes. You can also try to
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to get an advantage with the win
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  Speaker 2: how to use it in a way where the deer,
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  Speaker 2: you know, kind of think they have the wind in
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  Speaker 2: their favor, but they don't. And that's a tight window
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  Speaker 2: thing that I've talked about a lot. But once you
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  Speaker 2: figure it out, it works really well. This is because
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  Speaker 2: wil ad deer's nose is nearly perfect when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to sniffing out big predators like you and I. It
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  Speaker 2: doesn't work if they aren't generally directly downwind, or at
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  Speaker 2: least in a spot where your scent stream flows no shit. Right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I want to talk about this part of the equation,
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  Speaker 2: but not yet. Before that, I want to get into
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  Speaker 2: my thought process for those Nebraska setups and what that
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  Speaker 2: might mean for you. So let's take two of the
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  Speaker 2: stands I'm most excited about. They both sit on really
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  Speaker 2: good pinch points along the same river. They are both
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  Speaker 2: on the same bank of that river, and on paper
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  Speaker 2: might seem like they'd only work for the same wind directions.
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  Speaker 2: But because a lot of rivers don't flow perfectly straight,
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  Speaker 2: one of the stands is ideal for a south wind.
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  Speaker 2: The bucks that cruise that spot will almost inevita passed
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  Speaker 2: by within range of that setup and not get my wind,
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  Speaker 2: because they'd have to be out in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: the river to catch me. But if the wind isn't
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  Speaker 2: pretty much straight out of the south, that spot is
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  Speaker 2: going to become a real problem real fast. Now the
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  Speaker 2: other stand set up, you know, it's maybe four hundred
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  Speaker 2: yards downstream, so it essentially covers a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: same deer travel because a cruising buck can cover a
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  Speaker 2: quarter of a mile pretty quickly during the rut. But
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  Speaker 2: the way that stand is set up, a south wind
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  Speaker 2: will be a bad idea and a north wind will
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  Speaker 2: be perfect. West for both of them is a maybe,
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  Speaker 2: depending on how much the west favors the north or
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  Speaker 2: the south. It's hard for me to imagine a situation
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  Speaker 2: where either stand would be a good choice other than
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  Speaker 2: maybe a dead calm day, which is unlikely in Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: So essentially I have two setups on the same river
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  Speaker 2: to cover the same travel that are good for opposite winds,
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  Speaker 2: And that's you know, how it pretty much goes. It's
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  Speaker 2: twice the work, but also means that when the rut hits,
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  Speaker 2: we are highly likely to be able to hunt that
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  Speaker 2: travel route and not have to risk it or sit
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  Speaker 2: something out. I remember reading an article years ago, probably
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  Speaker 2: in Bowhunter magazine, from a guy who said that if
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  Speaker 2: you found a really good spot, he'd set up four
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  Speaker 2: stands so that he could hunt any wind direction. Now
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  Speaker 2: I don't know anyone who is going to do that,
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  Speaker 2: but thinking about it from that perspective, or at least
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  Speaker 2: of having two setups to key off the same travel
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  Speaker 2: or same pattern, it's not a bad idea. This is
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  Speaker 2: also maybe the best argument out there for considering a
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  Speaker 2: mobile strategy. But it's not enough to just buy a
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  Speaker 2: saddle and some lightweight sticks. You also have to have
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  Speaker 2: the mobile strategy mindset, which is often kind of misunderstood.
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  Speaker 2: Let me give you an example from my last season
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  Speaker 2: to sort of frame this up. When I was down
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  Speaker 2: to the wire in North Dakota, I figured my best
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  Speaker 2: bet was to hunt a cattle tank for any whitetail
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  Speaker 2: buck that might come in for a drink or a
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  Speaker 2: bite of something a little more lush due to the
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  Speaker 2: tanks runoff in that very, very dry land. The problem
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  Speaker 2: was that there was literally no good stand trees within
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  Speaker 2: shooting range, and really not a whole lot of covered
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  Speaker 2: to set up blind it. Now, I tried to sit
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  Speaker 2: on the ground and cover a likely approach rout, but
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  Speaker 2: that didn't work very well because what I thought was
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  Speaker 2: a likely approach rout turned out to not be the case.
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  Speaker 2: And while we saw a lot of deer, a hell
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  Speaker 2: of a lot of them saw us, and even more
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  Speaker 2: of them smelled us. I looked at every tree in
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  Speaker 2: about three acres and every spot on the ground that
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  Speaker 2: might allow us to play the wind and not get caught.
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  Speaker 2: Now I ended up sitting in a spot that really sucked,
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  Speaker 2: and it required me to mostly lie on my back
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  Speaker 2: for most of the sit but it was really the
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  Speaker 2: best option and it worked. It wasn't comfortable or overly enjoyable,
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  Speaker 2: but it was the only way to play the wind
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  Speaker 2: in that spot. And really, all the best tree standards,
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  Speaker 2: sal gear, all the best scent killing products and all
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  Speaker 2: that jazz just couldn't overcome the reality of having to
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  Speaker 2: tuck in on the ground and cross my fingers because
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  Speaker 2: it was just only going to work that way. And
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  Speaker 2: this happens to me a lot, and it might be
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  Speaker 2: because I'm going into more situations to set up on
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  Speaker 2: the fly than a lot of hunters, But there is
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  Speaker 2: a big time private land lesson here as well. But
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  Speaker 2: this goes back to the mobile mindset thing. Think about
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  Speaker 2: all of the data we have on weather and how
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  Speaker 2: you can look at your individual stand site and see
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  Speaker 2: exactly how the wind should be. Think about how often
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  Speaker 2: you go in and realize it's not quite right. You
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  Speaker 2: could push it, but that might be trouble. It often is,
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  Speaker 2: especially if you're not hunting a place with a lot
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  Speaker 2: of elevation to force very specific deer movement. The flatter
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  Speaker 2: it is, the harder this stuff is, generally, but a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people are scared to sit on the ground
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  Speaker 2: or call an audible in the moment, and then they
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  Speaker 2: push it with a setup because they reckon that being
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  Speaker 2: in a tree is better than being on the ground,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of like how a lot of hunters
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  Speaker 2: think that no matter what, hunting private land always trump's
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  Speaker 2: hunting public. It doesn't. And when you learn that lesson,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a whole new world of hunting opportunities opens
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  Speaker 2: up before you. The best way to go about this
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  Speaker 2: is to be prepared. I keep a go box in
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  Speaker 2: my truck that has a saddle and sticks and whatever
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  Speaker 2: I need to go mobile at any time. This is
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  Speaker 2: a no brainer if you have the gear, because if
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  Speaker 2: you pull up into the ditch along your farm and
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  Speaker 2: the wind is not what you need, you can switch
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  Speaker 2: gears and still be in the game. But I also
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  Speaker 2: keep the stuff that's necessary to sit on the ground
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  Speaker 2: in my go box too, And if I'm walking into
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  Speaker 2: some place this kind of a question mark, I generally
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  Speaker 2: have pruner's, a saw, and a cushion and off in
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  Speaker 2: a gilly suit style jacket tucked into my pack. Those
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  Speaker 2: few pieces of gear have saved a lot of my
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  Speaker 2: private land hunts and have killed me some deer. The
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  Speaker 2: thing about this is if you don't have an easy
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  Speaker 2: option to play the wind better, it probably won't try.
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  Speaker 2: And this is just the best way to get busted.
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  Speaker 2: And if you haven't done this at least a few
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  Speaker 2: dozen times in your deer hunting career, keep hunting. You're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get there. I'd say maybe a parallel point worth
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  Speaker 2: making here is to expect the wind to work against you. Now,
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  Speaker 2: maybe that seems crazy, but it's so often true, and
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  Speaker 2: it's not often super evident until you get settled into
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  Speaker 2: your spot and realize that the wind is just not
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  Speaker 2: doing what you expected. If that's the case, you have
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  Speaker 2: to make the call on whether it's likely to switch
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  Speaker 2: or likely to settle down to a non factor type
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  Speaker 2: of level, or whether you need to just get down
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  Speaker 2: and go for plan be. My general rule for how
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  Speaker 2: to play the last one is how much faith I
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  Speaker 2: have in the spot, and when I think I can
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  Speaker 2: hunt it again. If it might not be for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, I might just push it because it
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  Speaker 2: might be worth it to just see. If I have
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  Speaker 2: a few days in a row to hunt and I
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  Speaker 2: really believe the spot could produce, I'm just not going
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  Speaker 2: to risk blowing it out. The bad part about this
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  Speaker 2: is that you have to see how it plays out
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  Speaker 2: to really know. Hell, this might be the most important
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  Speaker 2: thing to recognize about all of this. How does the
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  Speaker 2: wind in your area act? You know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: just like what kind of deer are you really hunting?
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  Speaker 2: Do they look up in the trees all the time
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  Speaker 2: or never? Are they jumpy as hell or as kind
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  Speaker 2: of oblivious? Now with the wind, in some places, it'll
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  Speaker 2: blow all night, just as fiercely as in the day.
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  Speaker 2: But in a lot of places it'll die down hard
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  Speaker 2: around sunset and it won't really get a lot of
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  Speaker 2: steam going until a few hours into the morning. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you've already had some shooting light pass. That North Dakota
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  Speaker 2: hunt I mentioned early is always an interesting one for
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  Speaker 2: me because the general area is almost always windy, but
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  Speaker 2: being tucked into a deep river valley where the sun
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  Speaker 2: will hide behind the cliffs long before you need to
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  Speaker 2: climb down, means the wind often goes from one extreme
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  Speaker 2: to the other in a pretty short time window. That
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  Speaker 2: almost never happens quite the same in my home state hunts,
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  Speaker 2: but it's important to know because, depending on seasonal timing,
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  Speaker 2: I might not worry too much if the wind isn't
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  Speaker 2: great until the last hour, because I know most of
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  Speaker 2: the deer won't show up before that, so to muddy
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  Speaker 2: the waters even further. The truth of this matter is
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  Speaker 2: that you won't know how good or how bad your
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  Speaker 2: strategy is until you see it through.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: The good news here, although I guess it's not really
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  Speaker 2: good news, is that we often see it through out
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  Speaker 2: of a lack of options, and that will show us
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  Speaker 2: at least one outcome when the wind isn't perfect. And
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  Speaker 2: when you do that, pay attention. If you don't see
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  Speaker 2: much or anything, or you do spook some deer. It's
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  Speaker 2: hard to argue with those data points. Next time, don't
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  Speaker 2: push it, try something else, and when you do, pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to how plan B shook out. Did it allow
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  Speaker 2: you to tuck into the standing corn, to sit in
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  Speaker 2: a fence row and have some action when your tree
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  Speaker 2: stands are totally out of play that's important? Or did
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  Speaker 2: it force you to throw up a mobile set somewhere
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  Speaker 2: else and show you some other deer movement that you
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  Speaker 2: didn't expect, Because that stuff is important too, and it
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  Speaker 2: really helps you feel less helpful when the wind is
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  Speaker 2: an ideal and you don't have another pre hung set
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  Speaker 2: to go to. I realize this might sound like advice
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  Speaker 2: coming from big properties where lots of setups are possible,
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  Speaker 2: but this is in my experience at least crazy important
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  Speaker 2: small parcels. Not blowing out your whole thirty acres is
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  Speaker 2: a good thing if you want to enjoy your whole
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  Speaker 2: season there. Anyway, as we get into the seasons across
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  Speaker 2: the country, think about the win and how it will
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  Speaker 2: inevitably be wrong for you quite a bit, and what
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  Speaker 2: you're going to do about that. Then come back next
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  Speaker 2: week because I'm going to talk about bad habits in
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  Speaker 2: the white tail woods and how they cost us big
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  Speaker 2: Bucks all the time. That's it for this week. I'm
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson. This has been the Wire to Hunt Foundations podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening and for all your support.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe you're getting ready to drive across the country to
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: go hunt some meal deer, antelope, or something. Maybe you
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