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CC3: Pokémon Trading Card Game 2: Deep Dive | Retro Game of the Month · Cart Creeps

• speaker-0: Hello and welcome back to Clark Creeps. This episode, it's our third episode. This is a podcast where we discuss retro gaming. I'm Ryan and we also have... speaker-1: Gabe, sorry, ⁓ I was ready, I was just- speaker-0: You told me to change the order and I changed the order and you didn't honor the new order. You're last. ⁓ speaker-2: I'm changing guys ⁓ speaker-3: I didn't look at it again. ⁓ speaker-2: You're speaker-1: Did you announce you changed it? did. speaker-0: i thought you were watching me it speaker-2: So much time has passed. Yeah. Suck. I'm Jay. And I'm Jay. speaker-3: Hey there, this is speaker-1: I'm Gabe. speaker-0: I'm Ryan. Anyways, we have this episode is Pokemon trading card game to the invasion of team GR, which is great rocket. ⁓ And there is a Japanese title of it as well, but I don't think I can do it justice, it's GB to GR Dan. So Sanju. I don't know what that means. I don't speak Japanese, but. speaker-1: than Soju. Yeah, so it's funny that you chose this game, you know speaker-3: can't even read Japanese. speaker-1: Yeah, I don't know what you guys were expecting. Lucky we got through it. speaker-3: Mm-hmm. speaker-2: There was a patch on, made it fully English. speaker-3: You speaker-1: hell are you talking about? speaker-0: Yeah. Go ahead. You can go ahead and address that. The reason we were able to play this game is because there is a fan made patch, which hasn't I think it came out in the last couple of years. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe it's been out for a long time, but there's a patch and you can Google it and play it yourself because the game was never released anywhere besides Japan. We'll talk about that a little more later. speaker-1: I played the whole game Japanese, I don't know. Fuck you. No. No, like I said, I'm lucky I got through it. I operated on pure luck. speaker-2: Did you learn anything? speaker-3: you I just guessed what it would mean to go. speaker-1: It's miracle considering how garbage the random number generator is. speaker-3: We'll talk about all that stuff and Gabe's burgeoning love of the Japanese language. ⁓ But let's go. speaker-1: I just want to remind everyone here, this is American pod. speaker-3: Yeah, okay. speaker-1: I won't be doing any more... Dull Japanese. No, I'm just joking people. did- speaker-3: great bit he told us about before the podcast started. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I just thought it'd be funny to pretend like I played the whole game. I mean Ryan thought that would be funny and I was like yeah it will be fun. speaker-0: Well told you you had to learn some Japanese and we were supposed to speak some Japanese at the beginning but... It's a lot of... speaker-1: Was that it? I hear. was like, it'd be even funnier if I just didn't learn. If I just played the whole game in Japanese and I had no idea what was going on. speaker-0: Arigato. That means hello. speaker-2: I actually did. ⁓ I have a real Pokemon green and you know that's Japanese. ⁓ Yeah. And I played through it ⁓ in all Japanese granted. I kind of knew the levels and move sets of all the Pokemon so I knew what level. Right. ⁓ But I did nickname my Pokemon. I tried to like find English looking letters in the Japanese alphabet and like. speaker-1: He played red and blue enough. speaker-2: Name them English names out of that so that that helps like at least identifying my team. speaker-3: There you go. So we can, you before we get into the conversation about the game deeper into that, let's talk about what we've been playing now. I'll start. Hey, that was the big reveal for later. was the big reveal for later. You didn't have to jump right into it. speaker-0: stalling because he didn't finish. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: I'm glad we did. speaker-3: you've enough It's unrelated, actually. speaker-1: See you in lab, anyway. speaker-3: I guess. speaker-2: she's known to be a liar so don't- speaker-1: I ⁓ speaker-3: You know, I was playing other games. And you know, maybe I finished Pokemon. Who's the safe? We don't know. We don't know for sure. I guess we'll speaker-2: What else do you play since you didn't- since you allegedly didn't finish Pokémon? speaker-3: Allegedly. I mentioned last episode that I was running through the Resident Evil series and lead up to Requiem coming out out of this recording this Friday, 27th. speaker-2: people. speaker-3: That's so immature of you. speaker-1: You Really speaker-0: Speaking ⁓ of dates today, Jay pointed this out earlier. Today is like, is it national or international trading card? Yeah. pretty crazy on topic. didn't even plan it like this, but yeah. speaker-2: trading cart. speaker-1: Yeah, we've just been like super lucky. Yeah. That's how we got. We got like we got. We got Pokemon game and it's Pokemon trading card game, which we're recording on trading card. speaker-3: great that we've. Perfect. And I've been playing for you, Resident Evil is coming out and Resident Evil is on the list. It's like, ⁓ man, this is like everything's looking great for us. speaker-2: Keith doesn't deserve to have his games. ⁓ speaker-3: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's cool off. All right. As a penalty. Yeah, we should cross the games off the list. Yeah. ⁓ speaker-2: What's up, Bridge? If we get to. That'd be sound, actually. speaker-1: be cool if could take persona off the list. speaker-0: ⁓ well, actually we did because Jacob was like, can we change that to whether you guys play Final Fantasy seven? And I was like, sure, guess, which I think I'd rather find Final Fantasy seven. speaker-1: Yeah, Final Fantasy VII is good. speaker-0: I would know how play it. speaker-2: We made Jacob post our social. speaker-3: for us. Yeah, I've seen what I've seen with other guys. He's got some interesting taste. Yeah. speaker-1: his story earlier was like just a picture of like cookie dough like something like that speaker-3: Hell yeah. speaker-1: So I know. speaker-0: There's been a lot of death metal kick lately too, so it's like every other one is a death metal song speaker-1: Yo, we made this. speaker-0: If you've been playing Resident Evil franchise. speaker-3: I've been, yeah, I've been going through it. I'm up to four now. Let's see if I can beat it in time. I don't know just yet, but I'll go through four and then we'll see. And those aren't very long games and I've- That's your favorite. My favorite? speaker-2: Yeah. You're a big RE guy. speaker-3: I am I am ⁓ the safe, safe answer that I speaker-1: your big evil guy. speaker-2: The only answer, which I assume is coming. speaker-3: The safe answer is remake, Resident Evil Remake 1. That's my, that's my personal, that's a favorite. speaker-2: expecting that I thought you gonna say for speaker-3: Hmm. No, I'm I go against the grain my like real answer. Lancer is residual five. I've put more time in the residual five and had more fun with that game than I'd say any other Capcom game ever played before. And that's you residual five isn't as below it as others, especially coming off for but speaker-2: Yeah speaker-1: No. He was going say, I don't even know that I can recognize five. I recognize the box art actually. It's a nice the five. speaker-0: I only recognize the first one. speaker-3: Mm Yeah. So that's that put in more time with that one than pretty much any other game. And I've I've had so much fun and I love that game to death so much. So I'd say five is like, that's like my real life. speaker-2: actually I've actually only ever played for for the GameCube on the GameCube when it came out so there you know I'll get there I have a huge of games that I would like to get through in Resinema speaker-1: I played 1-4. Nothing after that. speaker-3: Jay's super rich everybody. speaker-2: No, not say that. I spend all my money on other things. speaker-3: You speaker-1: Which one is the box are of the giraffe getting sucked off? speaker-3: That's Resi V6. is uns- like that is- Like once I saw that picture, I was like, wow, I can never not see. ⁓ boy. You speaker-0: Yeah, now I remember that. speaker-1: Sike. I'll never speaker-3: Yeah, that was yeah, you can't yeah, once you see it, you can't like, it's funny. speaker-1: It's also funny cause it traps like, looking down. Hey, you don't even, once you hear like that description, you'll look at it and you'll see. speaker-2: Yeah. speaker-1: I mean, you don't even need to see like the drawing that the person made. It's, it's blatant. speaker-3: That's the regular six and then you can just plug meme I guess or something like that or giraffe that I pull it up. ⁓ speaker-2: ⁓ man. Should put a sensor bar over that. speaker-3: You speaker-0: Yes, we're gonna get a monkey band. YouTube. speaker-2: They might demonetize speaker-0: Yeah, we might get demonetized. We might not make any money off of this one. Compared to all the other ones. ⁓ speaker-3: God. That's, that's, you know, there's, there's many classic works of art in history. And that's one of them. That's up there. speaker-1: Her ancestors a thousand years from now are gonna find that. speaker-3: ⁓ fuck. OK. ⁓ speaker-0: Anyways, I- speaker-2: I found your old ⁓ speaker-3: Yes. speaker-0: I've been playing actually. I played, ⁓ don't know why you didn't have time to finish trading card game too, because I actually played more than one game. This will, I played two games this month. I I do know that, but I played, I played some of Dave the diver, which is a PC game. I guess it might be on something else. It could be on switch. I don't know actually, but I played it on Steam deck. speaker-3: We don't know if I didn't finish it or not, okay? speaker-1: Pretty sure. speaker-0: It's been out came out in 2023 and I it was a lot of hype around it when it came out and I just put it in my wishlist on Steam and it was on sale like a couple weeks ago for like $11 or something. So I bought it and been playing it but it's pretty cool. It's I guess it's an RPG. There's like two sides of the game where like half of the game you're spending your diving, know, David Diver, you're like catching fish and there's like a story and then there's like I don't want to spoil it but I mean most people probably already played it or if they're going to play it, they've already played it. But you're discovering other secret hidden things and stuff like that. And the other half of the game is managing a sushi restaurant. So you'll catch some fish and then you turn into sushi and you're like upgrading the restaurant and hiring people. It's pretty fun. I haven't played a ton of it. I don't know how many hours I put into it. Maybe four or five or something like that. But I've been enjoying it so far. I haven't played it much this week, but I want to get back onto it because that's the classic conundrum of, you know, ⁓ new game. play it for a couple hours and then never play it again until the years later. Like, ⁓ yeah. And you start over and then do the same thing again. So that's what I've been playing. Yeah. What about... speaker-3: Make that your new game in the list and then it wins. Yeah. speaker-0: That's not retro, it's only two years old. speaker-2: I probably have more games that I want to play than games I've ever played. speaker-0: Yeah. Gabe, what have you been playing this month since we last spoke? speaker-3: You speaker-1: ⁓ well you know working on my eternal champion i played legend of zelda speaker-0: The original one, right? Yeah. speaker-1: was, ⁓ worst time of my life, In hindsight, I didn't hate it, but while I was playing it, I was like, this game is so annoying sometimes. speaker-0: I've never tried the first one speaker-1: And again, because I am trying to do that and then also play our game. I like mostly used to walk through, so I got upgraded and everything. And I didn't a hundred percent it because there was some stuff where I was like, okay, I don't need to worry about that. I'm just trying to finish the game. But like, if it makes it easier, then I'll get it. Like your tunic all the way in the ring and your sword. speaker-0: That's the thing about following a guide for like a game like Zelda is that they're always 100 % guides. you like going out of your way. Metroids guides are the same way. Yeah. Yeah. You have like your super overpowered. I just want to finish the game. That's why I'm looking at the guy. speaker-1: Yeah, I mean, it was fun. At times, it was fun when I had all my hearts and I could just beam sword everything. But the second I lost half a heart or something, it's just like a spiral down. like I have to get close to hit these things. And it's a yeah, it's not like the swing like in like, Oracle of Ages and like later games. It's like your sword like appears just in front of you. speaker-2: really? cuz you lose all your confidence speaker-1: Yeah. And so it's like kind of hard to like time sometimes, but eventually you get the timing down. It's not that bad. ⁓ I definitely like slow-mo'd some things in that game. There's this one annoying boss that's like an eye surrounded by like a ring of other eyes that like are floating around it. That thing was a huge pain in the ass, but... speaker-0: Did you use any slow-mo in this month's game? speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-1: you speaker-0: The reactions is too quick. speaker-3: It's so- speaker-1: Slow-mo on the coin flip. Whoa. No, but yeah, that and then I just started Breath of Fire 3, is the RPG of quarter. No, no, I haven't played any Breath of Fire. Me neither. speaker-2: question. Is that one of the ones for PS1? speaker-1: Yeah, Breath of the Fire 3 is for PS1 and it's on PSP too. But yeah, it's the RPG of the quarter right now, but the quarter ends like at end of March, I'm sure I'm not gonna actually finish it, but I was like, haven't played like good game. I'll try to finish it. speaker-2: I mentioned before, but I never owned a SNES as a kid, but a friend and got dropped off, Busted, and we played SNES every day. And he had first two Brother of Fire games. So I played a bunch of those, just like secondhand. And I actually like own them now, and I would love to play them again, but you know, endless backlog, you know? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-1: The game's started out okay so far, so. But I've literally gotten like, barely into it. ⁓ Yeah, seems pretty fun, so I've been doing that. What have you been playing, Jay? speaker-2: I've still been ⁓ dabbling in Fallout 3 a little less now, but I did want to note before I talk about my other game, ⁓ did do the negative karma buff on setting Harold on fire in Fallout 3, talking tree fella. ⁓ That little tribe worships. Anyway, that was fun. speaker-3: you speaker-1: I remember doing that. and like immediately come on. speaker-2: The screams, ⁓ yeah, and I had I have a fire mod that makes the fire look cooler. So, know or Super epic really speaker-3: Yeah speaker-1: so that's why- i mean that's why did it, i had to see that fire mod on herald the one hope for the wasteland the one hope for life speaker-3: Hehehehehe speaker-2: Three dog was cool with it. had a, anyone can be your companion. And I got three dog. So he didn't have any. speaker-3: There you go. speaker-1: Yo that's fucked up as hell, dog. speaker-2: But the other game I've been playing, I've been playing a little hidden gem on the PS2 called Mercenaries. Got a subtitle to that. speaker-0: Mercenaries won. Playground of destruction. ⁓ speaker-2: Yeah, that's it. That's the game. I always go back to that game. Yeah, and I'm just there for my fix again. speaker-1: It's crazy because Mercenary 2 is... speaker-2: I've actually never get yeah, I've never seen your second one speaker-1: I never played the first one, but I played the second one and it made me not ever play the first one. And then, I mean, you guys have talked about how I get the first one in, so it's like, I mean, I'm be willing to give it a shot, but Mercenary 2's... speaker-0: Yeah, the second one was not very good. speaker-3: Jones. I know Hanzo. think it is. That's right. speaker-2: first one's just like I feel like it was ahead of its time in a lot of ways like with the internet like package system and like the open world the vehicle system I don't know go ahead speaker-0: There's another, I know Jay, you have a fun fact about the game, but I have one I forgot about just now. ⁓ so if you, Jay, ⁓ my cat scratching it, I don't know if you guys can hear it, but he's annoying. speaker-1: My dog was just trying to get in the door but it's locked. Normally they can like push it open because it's just a sliding door but I have it locked right now. So they're like... speaker-0: ⁓ my, yeah. So Mercenaries 1. So if anyone is familiar with, ⁓ Dungeons and Dragons YouTube, Matt Colville, pretty big, ⁓ D &D YouTube personality. ⁓ Gabe, may have watched some of his videos before he's all about DMing and stuff. He, ⁓ was a writer for Mercenaries 1. And he talks about it sometimes. And he's talked about it in the past on some of his videos, but like, he's the one he's like, sorry, designer, think, designer, not writer. So he's part of the reason like he's one of the guys that's responsible for the way the game plays, like how the open world works. And he's talked about that, which is pretty cool. Jay, think you have another ⁓ you had a fun fact, which I didn't know about. ⁓ yeah. speaker-2: I actually didn't know this either, but Mercenaries was made by LucasArts, another really pretty well-known franchise of games. But so there is like these there's these there's these collectibles. And if you get enough, you'll get Intel about a cheat code and you type the cheat code and you can actually become Indiana Jones as a player. This gives it to you. And tells you like in the Intel, it's like cheat code unlocks. speaker-3: I'm sorry. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-2: I love when games do little easter eggs things like that. They don't really do that as much now I feel like a lot of the heart and soul of games is dead speaker-0: games are dead speaker-1: Yeah, that's why we're doing this. speaker-2: This is why I like old games. speaker-3: Yeah, I miss G codes in video games. That's where. Those are good days. It was made by a pandemic and who also made the yeah, battlefront games. speaker-0: Yeah, yeah. Gabe, would you like to explain to everyone the concept of this podcast? speaker-1: Yeah, you know, every month, we randomly pick a game. We've chosen. Yeah, we've each chosen like three games to put on a list and we put that list on a little spinning wheel. You've seen it in our podcast and randomly pick one this month. Of course, Ryan's game, Pokemon Trading Card Game 2 got picked. Ryan will put a new one on the wheel and we'll play that. whatever game gets picked at the end of this episode. ⁓ speaker-2: keeps us going forever content. speaker-1: Ryan, do you want to talk about the game you decide to do to replace it now? speaker-3: You speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: You wanna mull over it a little more? speaker-3: You speaker-0: Well, we can talk about why I'm restricted by Keef in my choice. Yeah. So. speaker-2: guy. speaker-0: Obviously, this is a retro gaming podcast. it's, you know, 20. We kind of said like 20 years is about like the cutoff. But a 20 year old game now came out in 2006. So you could pick something like Elder Scrolls for Oblivion. But I wouldn't pick that because I mean, I really like that game. It's my favorite game. But I wanted to pick. Like, Keith right now only has an RG or sorry. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-1: Fuck it. speaker-0: R36S which is a little gameboy looking retro handheld. I have one here. But this thing can only really play up to PS1 games. think it can play some in 64. Maybe it can play a lot of in 64. I don't know. I never played in 64 on it, but doesn't have a steam. Yeah, it doesn't have a steam deck or a gaming PC or anything like that. So. speaker-1: Where is it? What? speaker-2: next. speaker-3: PS1. speaker-0: He can't play anything beyond PS1, so no PS2. I mean, I could put a game on there that he can't play, but then that's just kind of unfair. So I wanted to pick Half-Life 2 because none of you guys ever played it. speaker-3: if it's on PS5, if it's in there, I could. speaker-0: I don't think it is though. think it's only... speaker-3: two games like if you were in so inclined. speaker-0: Yeah, so like Half-Life 2 came out and it was a PC game obviously 2004. But there was a version of it on 360 and PS3 in the orange box which came with Portal 1 and Team Fortress 2, which I had it on 360. I think that was the first time I played Half-Life 2. but there was a PS3 port which apparently sucks really bad or it's like the worst version of it. don't think... Keap doesn't have a PS3 either. is a PS5 and I don't think it's on the online store like that. Okay, so you could play it if you go find it. speaker-3: described speaker-1: play the worst version of Get up now. speaker-3: You can still I saw download a game on there so can still play those just can't. speaker-0: Yeah, but I don't I just don't think yeah, I don't think there was ever a digital version of it. So That games out I thought about Halo 2 Which I think everyone else here owns Master Chief Yeah collection it's that for Keith doesn't have a PC gaming PC. So that's out That would also preclude one which I would pick two because I like to more than speaker-1: shit speaker-3: ⁓ speaker-1: Who said that? speaker-3: Hahaha! speaker-0: But so I'm left with something Gabe mentioned this game and I played I've played this game before not too long ago. I played it a bunch But I played it not all that long ago for retro hand. No, I mean it might have been over It was like one of the first games I played on my steam deck. It was a retro game I'm gonna pick doom 1993 So it still might be hard for keep to figure out how to play that but speaker-1: Bernie's talking. ⁓ Nice. speaker-0: There's probably a version of it on... a key... We'll play on the handheld, it's just... speaker-2: play it on anything isn't that like doom on my TI-83 calculator? speaker-3: You speaker-1: playing Doom on my Samsung refrigerator. speaker-0: Yeah, you can play it on your phone probably. Yeah. Have any of you guys played it before? speaker-1: No, not the original. speaker-2: Not like all the way through. speaker-3: Not the original now. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: I that's part of why I brought it up because I was. speaker-3: feel like I mess around at your place in Boone when you had it. speaker-0: I had it on the 360. Yeah, it was 360 version of it. speaker-2: I did beat the 2016 Doom. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, I the two newest tomes. speaker-0: 2016 was good. Eternal was good. yeah, i like- speaker-1: 2016 more than Eternal, but Eternal is still really fun. speaker-0: I like 2016 a lot. Eternal is good. It just feels kind of like a DLC, but they changed the way that the chainsaw mechanic works. I just don't like it as much. I have not played Dark Ages, the newest one. Yeah. I about that. I don't play it. Yeah, I'd play it, but I'm not seeking it out or anything like that. speaker-1: 26 new minutes really good. speaker-2: I'd still like to, but I suck at- speaker-1: chainsaw shield. speaker-2: Doom. speaker-1: I would probably play the other two before I play it. speaker-0: Yeah. So Doom, technically Doom one only had three chapters. There's four chapters. You'll get all four chapters usually when you play it. Technically it only had three. So you don't technically have to play the fourth chapter to consider it having beaten 1993 Doom, but you might as well just play the fourth one. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, it's pretty, ⁓ speaker-0: It's a pretty hard game if you put it on higher difficulties. I usually play on ultraviolence, not nightmare. So I would say you guys should play at least ultraviolence. speaker-1: That's all we really don't know whether you finished it or not. I mean, save some shit and you haven't. It's like playing it right now. speaker-3: True. speaker-0: Where is it? speaker-3: We're so much better than that. speaker-1: You know what, let's go back to talking about Resident Evil 6 as well. speaker-3: Yeah, let's go let's hop back on that topic. speaker-1: I think we should talk ⁓ about... speaker-0: the game of the month for February which was ⁓ Pokemon Trading Card Game 2 and why I chose it. speaker-1: Of course, completion is always encouraged, not required. required. speaker-3: Exactly. speaker-2: It's the whole point actually. Trying to finish the game. speaker-0: Yeah, that's kinda orange. look, so we don't know the game. The game came out in speaker-1: I'm sorry. speaker-0: I chose the game because I played the first one a lot as a kid. have the cartridge over there somewhere. ⁓ I recently, somewhat recently learned that there was the, ⁓ translation patch for the second one. So was like, ⁓ I want to play that. ⁓ so that's why I put it on the list. ⁓ yeah, it's from came out in 2001, ⁓ for the game, what color in Japan only, ⁓ I was looking into like, why we never got a version. It was, was developed by Hudson soft and published by Pokemon Company, think is right. But, ⁓ I think the reason reasoning behind never getting, you know, ported. Well, one of the reasons that this might just be speculation from like a Reddit post or something, but some of the cards that are in this game are, were never available in America, ⁓ in physical, like the physical core training card game cards. weren't, so they would have to like redo the game for, ⁓ I don't think it really would have mattered, but may have felt like they needed to do. speaker-1: You have anything that sounds like a reason to release it. So like at least we get to see those cards. Even if we don't get to own them. speaker-0: Yeah. So another thing, it came out March 28th, 2001 and the Game Boy Advance came out March 21st, 2001. So it came out a week after the Game Boy Advance came out. So it was already old at that point. Like it was on old hardware. So that's probably another big reason it was never. I think port that. speaker-1: is the real reason because also it came out pretty close to Ruby and Sapphire and they just weren't interested in like trying to push it in American audiences. They didn't try to get Ruby and Sapphire out. speaker-0: He's ashamed It's a shame that we never got anything beyond in America never beyond the first one But even beyond the second one with you know, Jen two cards and beyond because it's a cool. It's a cool game ⁓ Like I said my personal history with it speaker-1: million yugioh ⁓ speaker-0: There's a handful. So I the gathering games too. I think mostly they're PC games. Might be one on a console or something. But ⁓ yeah, this, know, Pokemon, it's a simpler game than those other games. I can't really remember how to play Yu-Gi-Oh! I played it as a kid. It's a little more complicated than Pokemon. Pokemon is pretty straightforward. We'll talk about how it actually works if you're not familiar with it in a minute. But Jay, I think you're the only other one that's actually played the ⁓ original trading game. speaker-2: played a lot of the original, you know, the Pokemon guy. ⁓ But I had the cart as a kid, I still have that same cart now. Grew up playing it, and I never actually played the second one either, just cause I didn't know about it till at least like in the last couple years, and even then I just didn't get around to playing it. And luckily, you know, your choice won, so we all got to play it. And... speaker-3: And we all got to complete it too. speaker-2: Allegedly. I'm not going to confirm that just yet. ⁓ But it's kind of a shame that we didn't get it, especially like as someone that grew up with the first one played a ton of the first one. Because it did feel like a continuation of the story. And even like for me, playing the first one, you know, I feel like that was still the easiest way to access the card game. even over the physical cards. had some of the physical cards. I know you did. were showing them earlier. Maybe you will later. yeah. Oh, so shiny. speaker-3: You speaker-1: For our audio listeners, he's holding up Pokemon cards. speaker-0: Yeah, no, I think you're ⁓ right. That's a yeah, that's a really good point about ⁓ accessibility to actually playing the trading card game because you and I all of us were ⁓ you know, these cards came out around 9899 2000. So we were all like seven, eight, six, seven, eight years old, six, seven. ⁓ But we like we mostly just collected them. And we never hate your ass. I never played it. I don't think ever. When I was a kid, I think I played it as an adult because my buddy, Kevin, we found all our old cards and we made decks and played against each other and we were probably like early twenties. ⁓ so I still have, I actually have that deck that I made it sitting over there somewhere. It's like a fighting normal deck, but, ⁓ yeah, like most people, most kids, we just didn't play it, which is a shame because it's a fun game. It's actually pretty fun. You know, a little card game. It's not too complicated. There's not too many like dumb, like Like in Magic the Gathering there's a lot of weird like decks that do weird stuff, you know, like I don't know how to explain it, but it's not annoying. Like it's pretty straightforward. There's some annoying cards in this. speaker-1: It's the same in Yu-Gi-Oh! It's like the whole point of this deck is to dump my whole deck so I can get a Zodian win the game. speaker-0: Exactly. speaker-3: out or yeah, because gotten so fucking crazy. Yeah. speaker-1: I mean, yeah, I don't pay. don't I don't know the Yeah, I met her for like 10 years. speaker-0: And mean Pokemon I think probably went that way too because I looked up a more modern card It was like insane the amount of damage like it was like a two cost like fight I think it was a hitmonchan card. It was like two fighting energies and you did like 60 damage and then the next turn it did 120 damage like that would blow any card in these games out of the water. So it was insane level of power creep in the card game because I think technically I think they changed it to like be like GX or something like that or EX And maybe it's just kind of a different game. ⁓ speaker-2: The one thing, yeah, I don't follow the new game at all, but the one thing I do notice just like looking at any card that I see on the internet is like the big HP, like they're like, I missed the 120 days. Give me my 120 Charizard, my 120 Chansey and those the big boys. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-3: ⁓ their sets too. like, the old like you can't like take your old binder full of shit and just play it now like get new stuff. You're bullshit that was made back in the speaker-0: Yeah. No, that's an annoying thing to do. Yeah. speaker-2: It might not be good, but you can run it in there. speaker-0: That's a message to you. speaker-3: I'm there are some. speaker-1: and it's a new game speaker-2: Crap card. speaker-0: Yeah, Magic's the same way. There's a few band cards, but it's the same. You can use anything from the... Well, it depends if you're playing standard and Magic, you can play anything that's in base set and anything that's in like the current and one past set. Cause they release like usually two or three like sets. Like the last time I played, was like in a Strad, which is literally like 2013 or 12 or something like that. There's like that one and there's like two other ones, dark something. I can't remember what they're called. And then you could play the one before, which is like... Zendikar or something like that. And then the next year you could play those in a Strad that's that whatever the three set was called. And then the new sets that are, think Ravnica is what came out next and you could play those together, but you couldn't play stuff that was from Zendikar anymore. That would have to be in like commander or whatever. But as long as the card, if the card is reprinted or something in the base set, then you could keep playing it, you know, but that's yeah, that's how that worked. Anyways. Yeah, so Jay Gabe and Keith you guys have never played the ⁓ Trading card game game. Have you ever played the trading? You haven't played the trading our game actual physical card game either speaker-1: No, I mean, like you said, I collected the cards as a kid because I thought, mean, I liked playing Pokemon. are. My cards was cool. I could look at them, you know, and shit. speaker-2: Thanks. speaker-3: I didn't even collect the cards because you know the thing is about no that's not why speaker-1: You know, why don't you hop off man? speaker-3: No, no, no. I'll go play right now. speaker-2: Mr. Resident Evil. Yeah, I think you will play. speaker-0: You get hit in fifth grade, ⁓ if I remember for me, is fifth grade. ⁓ speaker-3: Also with that, it's like you had a show that directly pushed you towards the card game. speaker-2: That show was so good back then. speaker-3: Exactly. Pokemon, there was never any mention of cards. Like, there wasn't even like one off of Played card games. Never know if you didn't. speaker-1: It's just about the Pokemon. That's why I was like, is this? This game isn't like in the Pokemon world right now, like because it's you don't have Pokemon cards in the Pokemon world, so it's set like in a world. Like our own. It's just a fucking game. speaker-0: It's an alternate, you know. Yeah, it's got. I guess. speaker-3: Yeah, so you didn't have any kind of like there was never. ⁓ speaker-1: we'll take it really seriously speaker-2: dude, i always speaker-0: seriously in this this set in the sequel seriously in fact they kidnapped people speaker-3: anime just- it's the card game speaker-2: anime broke so many of the game's nothing they did in the yugioh anime made any sense to the game speaker-3: Mm-hmm. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: Is that video where he's like, I'd summon Pot of Greed. speaker-2: I love that! speaker-3: That's really funny. speaker-1: Do you? speaker-0: You guys remember those like YouTube versions, YouTube spoofs of Yu-Gi-Oh! I'm sure Jay, you remember Yu-Gi-Oh! Bridge series. I don't know if there's any other listeners that remember the Abridged series. I don't know if it's still funny anymore, but I remember it being the funniest thing ever to me at the time it was coming out. Especially the America guy. Which Gabe kind of looks like he's giving off that whatever that American guy's. speaker-1: series. speaker-3: Hit. ⁓ speaker-1: That's why every country was because of speaker-0: to America. speaker-3: I remember. speaker-2: And that bridge series the dude that the weevil character and the bridge series just made himself sound like be this speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, that was a, it's pretty good. speaker-1: did look up the map of the first game because I had to know if there was a structure, existing structure where the airport in the second game is because like I mentioned earlier it's like speaker-0: There's not, right? speaker-1: No, no, let them build a whole airport. We'll talk about more later. speaker-0: Yeah. Well, why don't we talk about how we played it, Jay. speaker-2: I like playing on some real hardware. So I have this nifty 3ds that I Did some things to and I played it on there. Okay, you free Yeah, you can save state via the touchscreen here and then you know, let's date pretty good stuff. ⁓ Felt good to play, you know, it's a gameboy game. So playing it on like Nintendo handheld cartridge felt really good naturally speaker-1: You do do do that pretty good. speaker-2: fast forward with it too, which was really fun. did play most of the game fast forward just cause once you get a little fast forward gaming in your life, like a lot of these turn-based things feel painfully slow. So I pretty much kept my game on fast forward. speaker-1: Duel's and traveling on fast forward. speaker-2: To that point, says my game completion time was 59 hours, 18 minutes, but I would, I'd be willing to cut that in half because there's, there was a lot of time, you know, where I would just like set the game down and just be fast forwarding for however knows long. So that there's some like bluted hours in there, but I'm not ashamed to share my completed game hours to my retro video game chat. Keep what was your own hours. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-3: I played on the Arcos. I'm still on the Arcos. speaker-1: Two hours. speaker-0: R36S, ARCOS is the custom firmware. says it on the back. Turn around and look at it. does it say? speaker-1: ⁓ While you're holding it up you speaker-3: Yeah, where is it? What is it on there Jack speaker-0: I don't like it. doesn't have a sticker. ⁓ I may have taken it. I must have taken the sticker off because you can see the CPU under it. Yeah, no, I did that. Sorry. Mine's. speaker-3: Shit head. speaker-0: Because the CPU is right underneath the. You because you didn't finish the game. speaker-1: Sorry, Keith. Same thing I play, everything works. speaker-3: Surprise, Yeah, I didn't finish the game. Surprise. Boo! ⁓ speaker-2: much but his honest work. speaker-1: Like two days ago, he was like, yeah, I'm at the rock club and we're like the rock fortress. No, the rock club. That's like the first. speaker-3: The first club they send you to, yeah, I beat that. I got a little bit past that. ⁓ speaker-0: Did you just, well, we can elaborate. You just didn't, were you just not fun? speaker-3: I'm gonna stop. speaker-1: I just had to play Resident Evil, guys, I'm sorry. Fair, if you play like an hour of the game, you probably get the gist of like the rest of the game. speaker-3: I think I'm not like a super, maybe I'm too Yu-Gi-Oh! pilled. I'm not a super big fan of the Pokemon Guard game. speaker-0: Nah, that's better. speaker-2: so far. Did you least listen to the- speaker-1: I had a lot of fun with it. speaker-3: I did like the music. I did like the music. I did like a lot of stuff about the game. speaker-1: I actually would leave it on to listen to the music. speaker-3: Yeah, so my hours are really big actually thinking about it. Yeah, I did. I like I like a lot of the stuff in the game, but just actual like. I'm the game and like. speaker-1: 300 hours of this game. speaker-2: is you win a duel. speaker-3: I did win. I did win. Yeah, it'd be the rock. speaker-1: He beat the rock club, he said. He had to have done at least one. speaker-3: you speaker-0: Yeah. I mean, I get it. I kind of get it. I got to the point where you keep you wouldn't know anything about this, but I got to I got to the colorless altar and the psychic fortress, which is the last forts clubs or forts before you get to the final to the castle, which technically it's not because you have to do the final cup first thing about the castle. But anyways, I got that's where I got to. That's the longest break I took as I just stopped for a while. I just got to go back in and play more card like play more dual switch because that's all you do obviously is tools But this game does a better job of making it more interesting than the first one. We'll get into that later, but ⁓ Me personally I played it on Mostly on the me mini plus The bigger one, but I played a little bit on the me you mini regular which this is the size comparison if you can see It is a bit smaller. So when I wanted you know need it you can play speaker-2: Did you just move the SD card? speaker-0: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all I did because they're used, they're both can, they're both the same hardware. The only difference is the battery is I think different. think this is a 2500 and this is a 2000 milliamp hour. But that way I could, this is the Onion OS card for the MiU. So I can just take it out and put it in this and it'll, I can save state right now and it would start right back here. Yeah, this is you can play this one handed. You can play this one handed to actually play this one handed a lot like it's really not that difficult to hold it like this and then go back and forth. But people you always say that, ⁓ yeah, the me you regular the OG this is technically it's the before but it's the OG the small one. I'm doxing my diploma right there with a reflection but okay. But yeah, very small. I will say the one cool thing, the best thing about this one, the mini, the V4 versus the plus is that it has a dial for the volume instead of buttons, which is cool because you can just automatic, you can have it totally muted. know, I like that's just better if you're to play it when you're in a place you shouldn't be playing it. ⁓ But it took me 40. speaker-2: adjuvacation speaker-0: Yeah, 40 hours and 16 minutes to beat it and I got 345 of the 441 cards. I wasn't trying to get them all. I just played it. I didn't like farm booster packs that much. 40, yeah. 40, 16. 50 something. speaker-1: Jay, what was yours? speaker-2: 59 hours 18 minutes but I got 397 cards I want to make sure that's mentioned at least once because I did get the most cards out of all of these guys cool go Johnny this guy didn't even leave the rock jam he beat the leader and then said I'm just gonna live here speaker-1: pissed hours. speaker-3: I'm actually going to... You speaker-0: of speaker-3: See speaker-2: Rock people aren't too bad. speaker-1: You know, why am I worrying about other people's fucking cars? I have a deck. speaker-2: I have cards. speaker-0: Yeah, I see. I just stuck it in this one and now it's exactly where it was on the other screen on the other one. It's cool. Which I also ordered because it was on sale. There's another me mini was actually two, three other me devices that I don't have. There's a me. The me mini flip. So there's a miniature SP, tiny SP, same size screen as this one. I ordered it should be here maybe at the end of the week. And then I can also just take the SD card out of it. speaker-3: they could be cards. speaker-0: put it in that one and do the same thing. ⁓ There's a Miu flip that's more sized like an actual SP, which there's a lot of problems with the hinges and stuff. like in the, you're follow the retro handhelds community, like that one's not one to get, I think they've kind of remedied it a little bit, but ⁓ that one was kind of an issue. There's also like a Miu A30, which is a horizontal and that one had some other, like you can't use onion OS on it. I think there's something, there's something weird about that. ⁓ But anyways, ⁓ Saves. didn't have mentioned save states yet. We'll talk about it more. Oh yeah. Gameplay part. Cause you know, you know, save states in a card game. Like what's the point? But the, there's, there's a, there's a, thing like the coin flips, um, the coin flips. If you save stated before coin flip, cause you wanted the coin flip to be heads or whatever in your favor. It doesn't matter how many safe states you do because the coin flips are predetermined. And we'll talk about that more in a little bit. That's a very annoying thing about the game. I will say if that wasn't the case, would you not just save state and always win the coin flips? You know what I mean? Like. Every single coin flip, you'd be winning all the time, like, of course, you can do that. You do that. You crush through the game super fast. So it's kind of, you know, it's annoying because there's an instance where I got fucking six tails in a row. speaker-1: win every coin flip. speaker-0: Mike. speaker-2: you could have done about that no matter what like you were going to get those six tails speaker-1: was gonna say the dark nine tails what it has like the nine tail width and it's nine flips and I got nine fucking tails. so like like the Like I mentioned earlier the random number generator speaker-0: Nine, yeah. That's the problem with it. Yeah, that's the problem. I'm assuming, I think I'm pretty sure the way it works is what I've read is before the dual starts, maybe it's when you enter the room or something, the game like shadow flips a bunch of coins in the background and then it just gives you all of them in order. But how is it possible that there's nine in a row? You know, that's statistically, that doesn't make any sense. It's really very difficult for that to happen in reality. So I don't know. can't be. It can't be like. speaker-1: Just a minute. speaker-0: real. Let's all flip some real coins in real life. speaker-2: You know, you know, it's super frustrating about that too, though, is in the game, one of the added sections of the game, like a little game corner mimic. ⁓ speaker-0: Mm-hmm. ⁓ I don't remember what it's called either, but it's like a game club or something. speaker-2: Yeah, it might be the game club There is a coin flip game and in this mini game only ⁓ You actually can time your coin flips and because it has you get ten in a row and if you get ten a row you get like a special speaker-1: The evil casino. speaker-0: Those are actually random. speaker-2: Yeah, it's the only place in the game where you can like get a quick coin flip without a predetermined ⁓ out... speaker-0: Yeah, something else I noticed is and it happened. I lost multiple times the same opponent over and over again, right and What I finally did is you can and if you read some guides on it if you reset your your game And load back into your like say your diary save It'll reset the RNG because I kept dueling her over and over again and she kept getting the same draws every single time and I had the same draws every single time I was like this doesn't make any sense Maybe I should have left the room and came back in or something. don't know how it's determined when it gets generated. I would just, what I I only have been one. It was really bad. It's like, I had just the worst like rolls right. Starting out. But on the flip side, there are a couple of occasions where the opponent also gets bad draws and they have one Pokemon and you just, you get like, you know, your deck's totally fine. Yeah. You just wipe them out like immediately because they just, they're only able to get like one Pokemon out. speaker-1: They're probably wag out and it's like, they have no more cards. speaker-0: So it's kind of, that's kind of cool that it can happen like that, but it's, I'm glad that it's not manipulated too much in that way. Yeah. Which I think that'd be hard to do. speaker-1: I was gonna say it is it does balance out because the I never felt like the random number generator was only affecting me poorly. Like it definitely. Yeah, like hit it hit the computer. Yeah. So yeah, it's not like horrible, but it is annoying when it does happen. You're like, ⁓ this is fine. I would draw like one basic Pokemon and then not have anything else but evolutions or trading cards or energies that had nothing to do with that one Pokemon and then they'd do the same thing. They'd wipe out like my Bulbasaur and I'd just be fucked. speaker-2: game. Every deck that I built through the whole game, I had four build cards, which is where you draw two cards and you you build down, you draw two more cards. And I had four professor Oaks, which is you discard your whole hand and draw seven more cards. speaker-1: Yeah, I always had that too. speaker-0: I never ran Oaks, speaker-1: good for that reason. didn't run it early on so what I described to stop happening after I ran oaks because I would get an oak and I'd be like okay I really need something else right now and I'd discard it. speaker-2: I used them because ⁓ I really min maxed my Pokemon that I use like I would do I always went single type so all fire all water all grass or whatever and usually I would only do like two evolution lines And then one or two single evos. So like say my fire deck I ran four Charmander four Charmeleon four pony top four rapidash like two Magmar that was all the Pokemon needs so the whole point was to get Charmeleon and rapidash out and Well, you know, the deck did that beautifully. Yeah. It's a really fun way to play. speaker-0: Yeah, we're getting ahead of ourselves are a little bit big Gabe. What did how did you play it? No, that's good. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, but I ⁓ speaker-0: except for Keith. speaker-3: I think we all played in our own ways at our own paces. speaker-1: I played on the ⁓ RG35XXH speaker-3: Well, yours is sticker on it. That'd be nice if I had one. speaker-1: It's actually engraved on it. Yeah. I mean, I don't know much about this besides that it's a fun little device fits in your pocket. It's ⁓ lot of fun. Yeah, I really like it. I only recently got Mustard OS on it. That's right. Mustard. Yeah. Yeah. What is the deal with that? Because there's onion and there's mustard. Is that is this a theme among OS's? speaker-2: would be nice if played the game for this podcast. speaker-3: that we speaker-0: I really like the H a lot. Mm-hmm. speaker-1: So I can. ⁓ speaker-0: The way it works is ⁓ It's based off of the processors usually right? So all these are Linux based handhelds and it's based on the processors so in the hardware but other hardware stuff so onion is only for The menu line, but there's also menu. I will work on this is their custom firmwares operating systems because technically that brings us miss Lennox, but ⁓ people these are all fan like you know, fan made like people, no one's getting paid to make these unless I mean, they some of them, Patrons and stuff like mustard does, but yeah. So like they're all fan projects basically. So the me, you can have the stock OS, which is, think it's okay. They all come with the stock, ⁓ sorry, stock custom firmware. They all come with one that's usually it's all right. The Ember Nick ones like they on the H it's fine, but the other ones are usually a little better. I didn't like it. speaker-1: was trash it like I couldn't use this it's until I finally decided it it like you know it like made it not work like I couldn't even boot it up yeah so the original firmware was I mean yeah that's speaker-0: And could have been the SD card too. They ship with really bad SD cards usually. Yeah. So it's a good idea to replace it with something from a reputable brand like Samsung or SanDisk. yeah, for Miu's, Onion is the big one. But like I said, Menyui's works for a bunch of different stuff. So I don't have a Menyui SD card, but it would work on the ⁓ Onion, or sorry, the Miu. It work on the H, the XXH. It would work on the RGB 30. I don't know if it works on the R36S. I don't think it does, but it works on a bunch of them. So it just depends on which one. So The other big one for the XXH and the Amernic line is ⁓ Newly. ⁓ That one's good too. I've used it before, but I like MuOS, MustardOS better. Right now I think it's on. Mine has Loose Goose is the version. There's a new version coming out. I think it's already out. I have not updated mine to it, but I don't remember what it's called. ⁓ I remember one of the first ones I put on was Beans. they're, silly names. Keef has On an R36S, it's got ARCO-S and so does my R36 and so does my RGB 30 ARCO-S. I like ARCO-S a lot. It's a really good one too. And like the custom firmwares honestly are what make them worth like playing. Like having ones with a good custom firmware makes it worth like to be, if I'm being honest, the one onion is so much better than any other custom firmware because of the game switcher thing where you can just switch, hit the middle button. Switch to any other game you were playing. It picks up exactly where you left off. You can just hit the sleep button, the power button. goes to sleep and it turns off or turn it off. Turn it back on, turns right back on where you left it, which a lot of them have that feature now, but a lot of them still don't. A lot of the customer firm, I still can't do stuff like that. Yeah. Mustard has it. Yeah. And so does, ⁓ so does ARCO S it doesn't work quite as well. Sometimes you have issues with it, but ⁓ now we're getting into the weeds of, you know, retro handhelds specifically. speaker-1: And that's This is not a podcast. speaker-2: TIKTOK speaker-0: tech talk. It's a it's very it's I guess it's it's the side part of this hobby is like I do want to speaker-1: This is Pranav. Yeah speaker-0: I really like the plus. The plus is comfortable to play. speaker-3: You're slightly bigger than her. ⁓ speaker-2: and blame her for losing it. speaker-1: Never. you lost the ⁓ speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: Um, yeah, the annoying thing about them is all pricing is going up across the board just because of tariff stuff. And that's been happening for a while now, but they haven't gone down. Like I think I got my X, X, H for around 30, 40, 30, 40, maybe 50 bucks. don't know. But I know my, uh, me, you was around 30 or 40 and now they're all 50, 60, like, you know, speaker-1: that's what I'm thinking about getting another meeting. speaker-0: AliExpress runs sales and the manufacturers run sales too, but I usually buy stuff from AliExpress. They run sales all the time throughout the year and lots of different creators have codes too to even make it, make, they're like, got the Miu flip for like 50 bucks, I think, which is a lot kind of for like what it is. Cause the other ones were not that expensive, but that's just the reality of it now. So everything's going up just like, you know, All gaming stuff, especially like PC gaming and RAM and all that stuff to which I have a super old. I'm recording this on a PC that I built in 2015. So this is ancient technology and there's I should have upgraded it a year ago before RAM prices tripled. So now it's too late. But yeah, it's not. Yeah. I mean, 2015 is. speaker-1: it. speaker-2: That's 18. speaker-1: I fortunately built this like a year or two ago, right after I graduated college. speaker-0: Yeah, I mean this thing that is being recorded on has a actually Intel i5 4590 which is from 2013 I think or 14 and I have a GTX 1070 in it which is obviously you know, we're on the 40s and 50s now So it's very old. I think I have 16 if I have 30 gigs ramp, but it's DDR3 So it's but that might even be expensive now. I don't know Anyways, Keith. Do you want to Take us into the next section. speaker-3: Yeah, let's go over the next section. Let's talk about, know, the dive into the game here is kind of really getting to the weeds of this game that we all played to full completion to a satisfying level for each of us. Piece of shit. Look, we've all put our time in an equal amount of time for each of us. speaker-1: I'm not gonna let you sneak that in. Actually, I want you to boot it up and tell us how much time is here. Because mine's actually 98 hours. And I'm sure a lot of that has to do with fast forwarding like speaker-0: a lot. Yeah, I didn't. I didn't fast forward. I don't think I fast forward as much as you guys did. I think you guys farm boosters a lot more than me too. But I didn't fast. I never kept fast forward on. I would only I remapped it to ⁓ X button the top button. So that like when it was the opponent's turn, or I was walking or something, I would just hold that one and rock my finger to the A button to, you know, keep going to the menus. And ⁓ speaker-3: Keep shut up. speaker-1: This was on the... speaker-3: Hehehehehe speaker-1: On this one, the fast forward button, so it's really easy to just be like. speaker-0: was our season. Yeah, R2 was on here, but it was hard to hit it one-handed when I was playing one-handed. I had to like move my grip around to get it. So I just changed it to one of the face buttons. speaker-1: Thank 40 minutes. speaker-0: But it's less than that wait wait wait wait speaker-1: viewers, ⁓ speaker-3: Okay, that's good. speaker-0: We could guess because the viewers will be listening to this after it's. speaker-3: Yeah, well, just like last time with Ryan save states, you know, if you guess it right, prices right. Right. This is about going over. ⁓ You'll get you'll get some kudos and. Gabe will send you his bandana. Yeah. speaker-0: This is right. speaker-1: Sweet letter from Keith. I won't even watch it. speaker-0: I'm gonna say 30 minutes. That's my answer. speaker-2: minutes. speaker-3: Ooh, disqualified being an asshole. speaker-2: It's gonna be a low number. speaker-0: Gabe? speaker-1: stick with what I said in, say, 40 minutes. morning. speaker-0: What is it? Drum roll please. speaker-3: total of total of 43 cards collected speaker-1: Take care of the rock club. speaker-2: You get 40 at the beginning. speaker-3: I'm speaker-0: Yeah speaker-1: It's barely a deck. It's not a deck, speaker-0: It's not a but energy cards is just- it's just- speaker-1: ⁓ right. Yeah. speaker-3: time of. speaker-0: Tell us. speaker-3: Three hours and 30 minutes. speaker-2: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: You're longer than it's on. Yeah, might've got like two boosters, two or three. speaker-1: but Keith, he gave it a bigger try than I thought. speaker-3: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I was also disappointed with the there's the training guy, the gauntlet and restart and I ran through all those and then and then I did the speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. speaker-2: and just played the game. speaker-1: Yeah, I quit that like as soon as I could. speaker-0: If you look at how long to beat, if how long to beat it says 24 and a half hours for the main story, which I think it's kind of bullshit. Like you'd have to get pretty lucky to run through it that fast. But think this is completionist is like 40. Yeah. But I did. Yeah. I don't know. speaker-3: I the you know, got a proper experience of the game. You know, I played through. I mean, look, it's a card game. You play the card game. There's not they don't add new mechanics later on down the line. Okay. speaker-2: It's not just any card game though, it gives you a map, there's a story, a whole bunch of NPCs. speaker-1: There's a whole story. story about how card games are about having fun and not just building a strong team. speaker-3: I get the gist. I've been there. speaker-2: You're a speaker-1: Hey asshole, guess what? Winning is also fun. speaker-3: Whatever. speaker-0: If we were playing Magic in college, ⁓ Andrew would always say, heart of the cards guide me. speaker-3: You speaker-1: Yeah speaker-2: So it was funny just talking about all this. I started the game grinding some boosters just to, you know, get a start to see, don't really get that good of a deck to begin, like you can't do much. So I found Brittany in the grass gym and I just like beat her over and over and over and over and over. She probably, she probably gave me thousands of dollars of boosters that she just had in her pocket. speaker-3: You speaker-1: what's the other thing is speaker-3: pandemic of the story. ⁓ we all our cards. Someone speaker-1: yeah how about you just fucking like speaker-2: Go to Brittany. She's got ton of cars. speaker-1: Why don't you just fucking open all these boosters speaker-3: ⁓ You have to earn them. can't just give you can't just take them for yourself. speaker-1: It's not my car. You can't just open boosters, man. You have to win them. speaker-0: I wish that ⁓ I wish there was a money element to the game. I don't know why there's not because there isn't regular Pokemon. Jay and I were talking about this before. I wish that like, you would get a certain amount of money for winning and then you could buy booster or buy cards or especially buy chips at the casino because the way the casino is done is really dumb. speaker-3: you speaker-1: Starts. You get 10 chips over speaker-0: chips and you walk in and the only way to get more chips is to either beat the puzzle or the card dungeon or go to the slots and then if you lose on the slots you have to go back out walk all the way back out and do it again and until you get enough and you never have more than a couple but I think it's just kind of silly I don't know why they did it like speaker-2: actually did hit the Mega Jackpot on the slots one time and it gave me enough coins to get the Jigglypuff coin but then I didn't want to continue to grind that. I did try a little more to get the Mega Jackpot again. It gives you like 800 coins. It's insane. speaker-3: ⁓ man, yeah, I noticed that too. speaker-0: you didn't get to the second island, that's on island 2 speaker-2: I think the one time occurrence of that truly was just like ridiculous. I tried for a while to get it again. I love chasing that game Blink high. No, ⁓ so I just never got close to it. So that was a fun ride at least. speaker-0: I think we could talk about that more in a minute, like, ⁓ so visually and so about art, art and sound atmosphere. mean, atmosphere, there's not a lot of atmosphere. Like the Sprite art, Sprite art is good. The, clubs are kind of, they're kind of boring looking, but the art for the cards is really good because it's all, ⁓ pixel art versions of actual card art in real in the actual game. ⁓ That's really cool. like the sprite art for the ⁓ opponents is really good too. They all have three different faces they make, like a standard face, an happy face, and a sad face. Your character doesn't have anything besides just the normal straight face, but you could also, this is the first one you could play as a girl. And this one you couldn't play as a girl in the first one. ⁓ Yeah, you can run, which I think is really funny. Yeah. Yeah. You can run and yeah, you can run the first one. I don't know why. speaker-1: So run. and speaker-0: It's a feature. Yeah. Just make the character move faster. Where you running to? Yeah, you're not running to anything but to more duels. ⁓ Yeah, exactly. You're running between people. That's it. Like running out to the other side rooms. ⁓ The music in this game is amazing. Like, I love the music in this game. Every single, yeah, every single track, every single like there's not a bad piece of music, I think, in this whole game. The first like speaker-3: you speaker-2: music. speaker-0: the one that Jay's playing right now, the, the same. And all of it, all the, battle music is good and there's different versions of music, depending on which club you go in, like the lightning club and the fire club, the what they're all slightly different. it's really good. Like I love the music in this game. It's some of the best, speaker-2: It's stuck in speaker-0: I think I like it more than regular. speaker-2: I mean, it's at least just as good. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-3: really cool. Think of the attack animations of the game. speaker-0: Uh, there's some of them are pretty funny. The kicking is funny. speaker-3: Double kick. speaker-0: it's just a leg speaker-3: and just like kick it. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: Hitmanchan's like, it's a, his uh, what's his fucking... His special punch or something like that, whatever it's fucking called. It's just a fist that like comes down on his- speaker-3: I speaker-0: The tail drop one is funny. It's a giant fat like dragon tail that falls down. The sleep one's funny too, because it's just big eyes that like blink. Yeah, Yeah, there's a little attack animations are pretty good. Yeah. And some of them are pretty funny. speaker-3: I'm speaker-1: Like there's a lot of funny stuff in it like with the card art. There's the yeah, what is it the the flight bolt? Yeah, you know like all those Like fan drawn Pokemon cards, which are real cards like they it's like releases of like fan art ⁓ from a competition apparently Mm-hmm. Yeah, they like enter speaker-2: I that bulletorb won the competition. I'd love to see some of the losing entries. speaker-0: The Volta I'll see you again. speaker-1: I like the Machoke one a lot because of the big fish. I don't know, I like all the fan art ones, they're just so funny. speaker-0: Just joking pal. The Machop. Yeah, let's see. I like some of them are pretty pretty cool like just like vibe vibe. I really like the star you one It's just like a cool vibe you want. just a star you laying on the water Yeah, the voltorb woman's by far my favorite speaker-1: Yeah. Some of them are good though, because I think all of these are fan art. I'm not positive about that, so don't quote me on it. But, like, the solitaire is really funny. I don't know, a lot of them are just really funny to look at. You should go to Bulbapedia for this game and just look up the sky flying and look up the cards in it. are gems in there. speaker-2: You I always thought the background of that Pony Talk card, know, the first Pony Talk card. It always reminded me of Windows XP. speaker-3: We're back around. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: Greenfield blue sky. ⁓ speaker-3: You speaker-2: Going off the- speaker-0: I don't know if you ever saw this voltorb. This voltorb is great. speaker-3: I you. ⁓ speaker-2: We like to. speaker-0: I mean, all of it. mean, look at all of it. Like, it's all great. Like, it's really good. speaker-1: super, p- yeah speaker-0: I actually have this electrode, right? The one that I'm showing. have... speaker-1: the ⁓ speaker-0: One of the- yeah, one of them is- ⁓ Yeah, but there's all the art in this. It's just, it's really good. speaker-1: ⁓ Yeah, yeah, I mean speaker-2: Like being a Game Boy Color game, it's not bad at all. speaker-1: Yeah, no, the way you can like, like I can look at some of these cards to me, like I remember that card, like, like this looks spot. I mean, it's not. It really good for. speaker-0: Dark War Turtle right there, the grumpy one. Yeah. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, show the blast voice. the one that looks yeah look at the smug look on my favorite speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: This, what is it? Dark gold duck. That's a really cool one too. Yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: I would miss that guy. speaker-3: You speaker-0: Yeah, I actually have a Japanese electrode card. So it's exactly this artwork copied to pixel version. I have the Solarbeam Venusaur also. All these are from my childhood that I just hung on to. speaker-2: think that electorate is like mid explosion he's so big on the court like he's just a ball but he takes up the whole frame speaker-1: We have a card art that's done super well. speaker-0: It's worth even just like I wish you could just have a gallery of looking at all of them in the game. You can look through them, but you got to click on like a. speaker-3: collect them all. That's how do it. I did too actually when I think about it. speaker-2: I got close speaker-0: So talking about. Yeah. It's talking about the story of the game. There is technically a story. The story is it's a continuation of the first game is a sequel. It is a direct sequel. So you start out on the first island, I guess, whatever it's called. Island one, I don't know, the card island, everything where it has clubs, which I was kind of interesting about the first one. There's like a rock. club and a fighting club I think so they're separate and there's a science club and a electric club and a psychic club and they're like some of the science club cards I think are like stuff like magnetites and stuff like that and Mac yeah but you don't really speaker-2: Yeah, the side like it's more themes to the Pokemon than the type which is speaker-0: Yeah. You don't really have, you don't really get to play against those in this game. Most of your duels are done on the second island. But the story is great team, great rocket shows up and steals everybody's cards. ⁓ and then also kidnaps some of the gym leaders and they show up in like these costumes where they have like, ⁓ masks on that are one type of energy. ⁓ and there's like GR one through four, and you have to beat all four of those before you get to the second island. But you can come back to this island and kind of just duel the people that are there to get like Jay was using getting the card. speaker-1: best place for booster farming. speaker-0: Yeah. So yeah, team great rocket still drive somebody's car. They also, they arrive on like an airship or something, but they, I don't, it's not as. speaker-1: impression by Your character's kind of a dickhead. speaker-0: it's not explained how they stole the cards or under what kind of threat they stole them but they stole everyone's cards speaker-1: you get is an animation at the beginning and it's a blimp flying around and almost like a UFO the cards are like being sucked up into it and that but that only happens at each club speaker-2: But then they also had to actually physically kidnap the gym leaders speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-3: It's probably some big like speaker-1: Yeah, no, makes no sense. That's what it's like. They let one they they let them build the airport. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: an airport on the island, because it's not their first game. they construct this airport, it's like criminal organization. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: And then, I mean, yeah, like you said, they kidnapped them, but under what threat, like... speaker-0: I don't know. guess what else can they do to him? ⁓ Yeah. speaker-3: You're just mean. speaker-1: You're gonna rip up your cards? I don't- speaker-2: even doing anything with the cards they're just like hanging out in their own fortresses like they're not trying to get rich they're just like speaker-0: Yeah, they're also fine. We also fine with you coming over there and doing it. They don't they're not mad that you're there either. They're of them are excited. speaker-1: We did it. Which is funny because the rival is sneaking around the island dressed as like your rivals like when you get to the second island your rivals running around in like a costume that's like team great rockets and it's like I Don't think you need that man speaker-0: Yeah, they just let me in. speaker-1: They just, yeah, they just let me in. I just, just kind of- speaker-2: That guy. speaker-0: Yeah, he me here himself. Yeah. If you wouldn't know anything about that, but you get to the second. It's kind of cool because the game, the story is not necessarily linear. You can choose kind of what order you want to do the stuff in. In the very beginning, it's easier to do some stuff first, though, because I think the deck they give you, what do they give you? Fighting deck? I can't remember. speaker-1: Literally flew me here. It's like a kind of mix. It's like a pretty sure. Oh, are you talking about the rock club one? You because yeah, you do. are X. speaker-0: Yes, you earn. Yeah. Yeah. Only on the first island, you, win a couple of the decks and like, so you get a fight. think you might win a fire theme deck. Yeah. Yeah. A water one. And then you win a fighting one and you win. I don't think you went to the electric one because I, took me a long time to get electric cards and psychic cards too. So those are harder to get in the beginning of the game. And they're kind of hard to get in general, cause you really just have to get them through boosters eventually. speaker-1: Clubmasters like give you one. speaker-2: actually i felt like a legend of a type even when i was trying to make an electric deck i was like all of these cards kind of suck speaker-1: Yeah speaker-3: Yeah speaker-0: Yeah, no, the decks that they give you the pre-made that's a, that's a big feature of the game. There's a bunch of pre-made decks you can use or you can have built for you by the auto deck machine, which I never used any of them. The whole fun of the game to me was building my own decks. ⁓ And like Jay was saying, he, he used like single color decks all the time. would switch based on which ⁓ club I was at, which was really cool. Cause I go to this club and like, this, you know, you're at the water club or water fort or whatever. And this person uses like. water and grass or something that's like the opposite type. It makes it more difficult than just straight up, you know, this guy only uses speaker-1: Whatever unlike Pokemon like the game where? like grass hat might have a water water might have like a weakness to electric and water in Pokemon this like you don't well You know by looking at the cards and researching you kind of have to do a lot of research because you have to be like okay Well, and I don't remember I think like Squirtle is weak to crap electric speaker-2: the polly way yeah yeah and the poll Yeah, most of them were electric. Like there's a few that aren't. Yeah. That are weird. speaker-0: And there's some cards that have no weaknesses, like Dragonair. It speaker-1: Yeah, they do really well with it. But no, just I also I do like that there's that element of like, I need to be careful with Yeah, but just because I'm going to water gym doesn't mean I can just load up on only grass or something. speaker-0: Well, Which I think is what's cool because it yeah, it makes you have to actually Really, you can build a deck for each person in the gym Not just the whole gym kind of because especially there's later on and when you're on island 2 They have specific rules you have to play by to even duel them and if people aren't aware of like how the game is played I guess we didn't explain it but you have to have a 60 card deck Has to be exactly 60 camping more can be less ⁓ You can have any number of Pokemon or energy or anything whatever you want in it trainer cards It doesn't matter but you can only have four copies of each You can't have five Charmander's you can have four and it doesn't matter if it's different kind of Charmander card It can only be four with the name Charmander you can have four dark Charmeleons and four regular Charmeleons Which is stupid. Would you be gonna do but you could do it? But the way the game works is it kind of speaker-1: All these termillions with no charm speaker-0: Yeah, that's that's a weird thing about the dark Pokemon but yeah, so it tries to mimic the main line games in a way that's like you have your Bench and you have your active Pokemon. So when the game starts you shuffle the decks are shuffled ⁓ You draw your seven cards and the coin is flipped as you goes first then you can put a basic Pokemon on your we pick a basic Pokemon to be in the plate like the actual arena and then you pick your ⁓ bench Pokemon, which you have up to five and then The games are played with either four or six prizes. So what that means is it just, deal six, four or six cards out of your deck face down as like prizes. Right. And so when you knock out someone's Pokemon, you take a prize and the game can be one, the wing conditions are either the opponent. take all their prizes. You, your opponent has no active Pokemon left or your opponent runs out of cards and it's not at zero, but it's when you have to draw a card and you have no more. So I actually got it. There's one dual where someone, I think I had zero left. but it wasn't my turn. So I didn't have to draw. Maybe it was them, but like you draw, if you try to draw and there's nothing to draw from, then you technically lose. ⁓ so pretty straightforward. Like obviously the cards, all the Pokemon do different things. Usually they have two attacks. Some of them only have one. ⁓ the trainer cards change the game up a lot. ⁓ like they can change a lot of different things. You can have some like gusts of wind that makes your opponent's Pokemon switch. So if you're like, you're beating up on someone's Pokemon, they pull it off. the fight off of the, you know, in the, the arena, put it on the bench. You're like, well, I almost killed that Pokemon and I want to knock it out because then I'm going to prize. So I use gusts of wind, put it back out and knock it out. Or you can use just to win to protect yourself. Cause like when someone they're throwing like a blastoids at you with a bunch of energy's on it, you're like, I can't deal with that right now. I'm not gusts wind. So I, I ran gusts of wind, like three of them at least in every single day. That's my favorite. speaker-2: I love doing energy removal on people. It wasn't an important duel, but it was just a duel. But I happened to draw three of my four energy removals. So every turn, was like, I'll put my energy down, I'll attack, they'll put their energy down, uh-uh, and then I'll remove it. And it just kept happening until I won. speaker-1: I would run. I had one deck where I ran energy removal and super. speaker-2: i like to imagine mpc's are extremely pissed off when you keep doing it i get some sick gratification knowing that they're probably angry speaker-0: Yeah Yeah, will say Dust of Wind is a weird card because the enemy almost, the opponent almost never uses it on you. I had it used on me once by like the rival and that was it. They never use it. I think it's because the computer doesn't know what your cards, the status of your other cards are. So doesn't know it would be better or worse for them to do it. But yeah, like that, I always ran those. I always used two or three potions. ⁓ I did not use double colorless energy very much. ⁓ I use potion energy a lot. I didn't use, I used Bill's teleporter a lot. I never, didn't use oak because I didn't like discarding a bunch of cards. I liked using Bill's teleporter and for the most part, I like I always, I usually won the coin flip because if you miss the coin flip on Bill, if you get a heads, you draw four cards. If you get a tails, you draw, you just discard it. ⁓ There's a couple of cards that do cool stuff. Like there's the dark, not technically dark, but it's the Rattata from Rocket set, which lets you swap cards from your prizes with the deck, top deck of your, ⁓ your actual deck. And then there's Dragonite, which lets you look at the swap, cart, draw a card and swap it with one of the ones in your hand, which I thought was really cool. And I liked using that and I like using Pokedex because Pokedex was my solution for Oak because Pokedex lets you look at your top five cards and rearrange them however you want. ⁓ so I use that one a lot, but I used, I did a couple. to ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, grass. Because I had Bulbasaur and Ivysaur and then Scyther. What else? Sometimes I would go through ⁓ the full evolutionary line of Weedle. speaker-0: I never did that. speaker-2: Even a casuna is really good. Yeah. It can, it's got like 70 or 80 HP and it can poison and poison is just like super ridiculous in this because you get poison damage. It puts one damage counter every turn. Yeah. So it's like 20 damage or poison by the time it's your turn again, because it goes to their turn. speaker-0: And back to your turn. speaker-1: Mars sucks because of that like when it happens to you because you're just like, well, there goes that card because yeah, a couple turns like that's it because I never kept full heal on me because I neither speaker-2: started to because that that herbal paralysis was just speaker-0: I sometimes would full Hill energy. speaker-1: Yeah, that's what I gonna say. Full heal energy, if I felt like I needed it, I would like just swap out a few energies for full heal. And that would generally take care of it? Shut up, Keem. speaker-3: You speaker-0: I ⁓ never use super potion, I just use regular potion. What was your guys' favorite normal Pokemon card to use throughout the whole game? speaker-3: I get it. No. speaker-2: Normal as in normal type. speaker-0: No, regular. Any regular card. Yeah. Base, base card. speaker-2: about it a lot in our little chat. Um, probably easily rapid dash rapid dash. speaker-0: This is good. speaker-1: Yeah, rapid-ass is really good. Agility is nuts. speaker-2: So the two, it gets two attacks. ⁓ agility is one of them. I'm trying to think of the other one. Stop. Is it stopped? Yeah. So stop does 20 damage. You flip a coin. If it's heads, you do 10 more damage and that is two colors. But also if you just have two, I think it's just too fire, too far energies on it into agility, which does 30 damage. still super worth it. So you do the 30 damage and you flip a coin if heads Rapidash takes no damage. And on top of that, it has a free switch. some of these cards, like, especially when you evolve them, they will have like a retreat. Yeah. So you'll usually have to discard a couple energies from your guy to switch it out with someone on your bench. But this Rapidash, can just switch it. I mean, that got me through so many duels. speaker-1: No damage the next turn speaker-0: Retreat cost, yeah. speaker-2: ⁓ even like tools that were, how you say that? I wasn't like being super effective. It was just like a standard dual. Like I was facing a neutral type in rapid dash, which still just like stopping. ⁓ very easily. And then, sorry. Go ahead. speaker-1: there. speaker-0: I I used, yeah, I rapidash a lot too. Whenever I had fire, whenever I used fire decks, didn't even use Charmander's. I only used rapidashes and Magmars and yeah, that's pretty much it. Maybe, ⁓ yeah. Rapidash and Ponyta's obviously four Ponyta's three rapidashes maybe or two rapidashes, maybe a dark rapidash. And then I'd use all the Magmars I could get. Cause all of them. speaker-1: Crapdash was really good too. speaker-0: four different kinds of Magmar and I would use all of them because they're all pretty good. my go-to anytime I use a lot of fighting decks and my go-to with fighting anytime I had a fight, I would put four Rhyhorns in it because right Rhyhorn? Yeah, the baby, the speaker-1: Yeah, right on. speaker-0: I never even had, I never used Rhydon. I always used Rhyhorn. The problem with him, he does have a high retreat cost, but you get him on the field like right away and you have one energy cost to use his Leer, which doesn't do any damage, but it keeps you from getting hit kind of like whatever the Rapidash attack was. ⁓ So you can just keep doing that until you build up three energies to do a horn attack or something, which is only 30. But again, like you can run for those guys and They're they don't get hit very much because you're and he has a high hit points I think it's like 80 or something So he just tanks a bunch of stuff and you can be get him out there While you're working in the background on your bench on someone else putting energy on those So if that right right horn does go down you can just swap into the one you actually but it's a good like early game You know card and I ended up in the end Running like using Dragonair as much as possible like a bunch of Dratini's and Dragonair because Dragonair has hyper beam It has another attack. don't know what it's called, but it's the first attack is three costs colorless. it's to flip two coins. It's 30 damage time. The number of heads, which of course the coin flips. It's half the time you get nothing, but for four colorless, you get hyper beam and it does, I think it only does 20. It takes a slam. Yeah. takes away. You can take away their energy card. You discard an energy card on your opponent when you hit them with hyper beam. like if no matter what they have and they're putting out, like even if they have their like, you know, heavy hitter, yeah, I can't do anything because the opponent never puts more cards on more energy cards onto the card unless it needs to. So if it's like out of three cost attack, it's only ever good. They're only ever going put three on it. So you hit it once and now I can't use that attack and then you hit it again next turn and you get by the end. They can't do anything. They can't even retreat. speaker-3: Blast you. speaker-0: because they have no energy because most of the big, you know, they don't have the need energy to retreat. So you get them locked in there and you can just blast them over and over again. speaker-1: good for killing like, big explosion and yeah, like ⁓ you to size shock, side beam or whatever, like you just stack psychic energy on and you can do like speaker-0: Side being a side shock speaker-2: The executor was really, fun to use. I towards the end. made a grass deck with executor Nito King. And I would just like, if I got executor out on the field every turn, I would just stack them grass or double colorless. I actually did use double colorless only for that deck because you know, you can't use a colorless for the executor. So if you put a double colorless down, that's two new flips that you can do. each energy on executor does 20, it was a coin flip. speaker-1: Yeah, I like that. speaker-2: and each one each heads you do 20 damage. ⁓ speaker-1: there's no limit to it either. the high I mean, except for like, there's like, yeah, so you just stack like a ton and you're like, at least doing an average of like 70 damage every turn. Like if you get up that high, but I mean, generally, you can get up pretty high. ⁓ Because I think I think he also has like a decent amount of health too. also you can just sit them on the back line. And if you're speaker-2: No, no limit. speaker-1: have a good like frontline Pokemon you can just be stacking him up if you have like enough to be attacking you just spend the turn like your turn stacking him up and then you send him out and he just destroys everything else that speaker-2: I took that spot over on what was your favorite court game? speaker-1: ⁓ I threw I threw Nidorino into like every I like Nidorino a lot. ⁓ He's just a good he was a good reliable card. ⁓ The only thing I don't I don't like I usually he's one the only annoying thing about him is that you have to set him up because Nidoran's attack is yeah yeah like you flip and either do 30 damage or don't speaker-2: He only has 40 HP. speaker-1: Yeah, and he's not very... so you have to like... he's not a good first round Pokemon, but if you get him set up, he's pretty good, and then if, like you said, late game I was... I would evolve him into Nidoking. speaker-2: Nito King is ridiculous. So that poison damage we were talking about earlier, Nito King's move is toxic, costs three grass energies, does 20 damage, but there's no coin flip. You just poison your opponent. And instead of the 10 damage, it does 20 damage per turn, per half turn. ⁓ It's pretty disgusting. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-0: Sorry guys. speaker-1: No, yeah speaker-2: I wanna hear what Keith's favorite card of the 43 that he collected was. speaker-1: Which one speaker-3: said snorlax when the question was first asked. I did have snorlax. Yes, I did. I had to turn the game back on. No, I'm going to turn it on. speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-2: she can have a sore leg speaker-1: Prove it. speaker-0: I used to snow-lax like once I think I never you had the food tokens thing speaker-1: I didn't think I ever used speaker-2: Yeah, ⁓ I got used to against me pretty good once and I was like, that's kind of neat, but I never went out and used it myself. speaker-1: Yeah, you're right. I did get that used against me. speaker-0: Like the game, it has bosses, but like kind of everyone is a boss. Almost you have to defeat everyone. So almost everyone feels like is a mini boss. There's some, obviously they're like the big bosses and their stipulations and rules about what you're like. So most clubs have someone that's like, I'll only do you if you only use X type of energy, only use fighting out. speaker-2: Everyone. speaker-1: was you have to have four red attacks in your colorless altar actually pissed me off I mean yeah because I just hate it speaker-3: There you go. Big speaker-0: Um, the, there was one, the fighting club, I noticed this, uh, when I was playing against that one person that had that, I don't remember what the character's name was as a, as a girl. Um, she says she'd only do it, you, if you use only, only fighting energies in your deck. So you have to take everything else and use fighting and then I'm doing her and she has a double color synergy in her day. I'm like, that's not fair. speaker-1: Doesn't she run psychic too? speaker-3: I think I like that speaker-0: So. speaker-2: A lot of them do that, a lot of them make you play one way and then they're like, hey, but I got this guy. speaker-3: Yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah, honestly, like a lot of times. speaker-1: ⁓ but I'm playing the weakness of that. It's pretty villainous, I guess. speaker-0: Exactly. It's cool. mean, it's cool. It's a cool they do that because you really did to be changing your deck all the time because you, unless you have a really, really good deck, you kind of have to change them every single for every single person in each in each fort. I mean, you don't have to, but I almost always did because that was like, you said, speaker-1: Deck building is the fun of the game really. Dueling is fun too. speaker-0: I this game did something that I think is kind of similar to Metroid in a way in that the final boss was not as hard as the previous boss to it, so there's the final cup, right? So when you get to the second island, can choose, it's a little linear, you have to go through I think a couple of them in order, but then you can split up and do one or the other at the time. I think to get into the fighting club, need two coins. So you can do this one or this one or whatever. And then before you get to, so you get to the end of Island two and you have to do the colorless altar or the psychic and the psychic fork. And you do both of them and you're like, okay, cool. I'm going to the castle. You go to the castle and then the King, the leechy, which is the translated, but it's like, what is it? Buri Chi or something. And the original Japanese trans speaker-1: Yeah, it's ⁓ just had it up actually. speaker-0: But he's like, I'm not going to duel you unless you have all the legendary cards. It's like, all right. So what you have to do is leave the island. Be Ruiqi. Leave the island. Go back to the first island and then do the final cup, which is all the people you had saved that were kidnapped on the island. You to duel them first. speaker-1: Be. speaker-2: Yeah, that's the ending of the first game too. ⁓ speaker-0: Yeah. And they give you the legendary cards, but you have to do that before the King will do you, which is silly. Cause I think the final cup is harder than fighting the King because the final cup you have to do and you have to beat four of them in order. Like you have, if you lose halfway through, you got to start over. So you got to, think the first person is electric or maybe it's water. It's like water electric. don't know. I don't remember exactly what it is, but there's four people have to be in a row and yeah. And that's harder. Than the king which you go to fight the kings like you just have to beat me best out of four or whatever So you just have to beat him like you duel him three times you win two of those you win which is what happened to me I I didn't bother like Reloading or any saving and reloading I just Lost or like beat him then lost or lost and beat him and then as long as I beat him twice But he has four different decks and they're random and each one does something different Can't remember which ones I got but they're they're pretty interesting. I got one of the easier ones which I think was like the discarding one or something like that. But he was not very difficult to be compared to. speaker-2: Honestly, by the end of the game, all the decks that I was running were optimized exactly how I wanted them. Like I said earlier, I grinded for boosters a lot, so I had tons of people that was able to make multiple decks while having the card resources to fill them out. I had a little bit of difficulty with the psychic fortress leader. just because she kept removing my daggum energies and that was- but I just kinda I did the fast forward I persevered through I beat her when she had three cards left in her deck but I beat her ⁓ and then the rest of the game wasn't that bad for me like that says rapdash executor and then I had a water deck which ⁓ I ran dugong and work portal on and do heavy hitters speaker-1: yeah yeah she was actually hard speaker-0: Doogon is really good. speaker-1: Yeah. speaker-2: 3 energy, 50 attack, like gross. speaker-0: Mm-hmm. speaker-2: But it's a, you know, it's at end of the day, it's a children's card game. you can't expect it to be, but, it was hard enough. It wasn't like, you know, I had fun playing it. ⁓ it stimulated my brain. Yeah. speaker-3: Dude. speaker-0: So what were your guys, you guys's ⁓ favorite sections and favorite moments and least favorite moments? speaker-3: Well, my favorite moment was beating the Rock Club. speaker-1: My favorite moment was the training session we did. speaker-3: I really accomplished when I did that because I was like, okay, now is the start of my Pokemon trading card journey. speaker-2: And then now it turns out I'm a smart. speaker-3: This also the end of my Pokémon trading card journey. speaker-2: Well, my real answer, speaker-3: Hey, my answer was real too, okay? ⁓ speaker-2: Guess that's fair. ⁓ I like to ask the additional cards they added they added a lot of the dark and rocket cards, which You know, it felt like a true I mean, I guess it is a true sequel but It's just you know, we're not have not having this game in America or anywhere outside of Japan. Yeah Because they were still cards I knew growing up. So it was really cool to finally play this game and to use those cards granted I really didn't use the cards. I used the same rapid dash, you gong the first set. The first game, but it was really fun to collect them and battle them. I liked that they're there. speaker-0: Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I don't know if we even mentioned this before but there's more cards in this game. They're added the dark or the rocket Expansion and that added all the dark Pokemon cards, which I used them here and there I did but yeah, eventually I was just using the standard base set stuff My favorite thing probably in the whole game was that all of sudden I think it was at the fighting club where you're like falling through holes and opening treasure chests. I remember that. Yeah, the fighting forges like all of a sudden, like this is came it comes out of nowhere. It's not in anything like that anywhere else in the game. Yeah. And it's kind of it's cool because like, like they split them up and there's like, it's kind of like a maze and you go walk through but you can fall in a hole and you fall in a hole and usually and there's also like you can I made I went through the whole thing to make sure I got all the treasure chests because there's treasure chests and if I'm able to wanted you get a free booster pack for just finding it. speaker-1: It's the fighting fortress. speaker-0: Which is really cool and I didn't expect that. ⁓ least favorite part of the game was probably the final cup because it just feels like I should be done with the game. Like I shouldn't have to go back here and do this when I have already done everything else and beaten everybody else. And then the King is like, ⁓ yeah, well you need the cards, legendary birds. They're not even very good cards. speaker-2: way I speaker-1: And the other thing is, like, you don't need them to duel him. You need them to duel, like, one of his executives. Yeah. Like, they don't have to be in the deck when you duel him. So I don't know why he's like, you have to have them, but then like, doesn't require them for his duel. speaker-0: I think that's speaker-2: The whole time I was playing I had this vision in my head where I was gonna like beat all the fortresses Save everybody then go back to island one and then do the cup the way you would first game but ⁓ Then putting it for final fortress. I don't know It kind of made the ending call flat speaker-3: symbol. speaker-1: No, yeah, I agree. would say that was my least favorite thing as well. mean, it does feel because you think about speaker-3: Me too. speaker-1: yeah like any Pokemon game like like the original Pokemon game you go you beat Giovanni beat Team Rocket and then you take on the Elite Four and that's kind of what I expected from this one yeah so I would I would have liked to have just taken care of the whole Team Rocket island got everyone their cards back and like you said finish the finish the champions off speaker-0: Yeah, it probably should've been reverse. because the final cup was harder. Yeah. So I think that, yeah. speaker-1: Yeah. Like, yeah, it was, it was harder. that was the other thing is like the difficulty fell off. And so like you said, the ending does kind of like the dude dropped the ball on it a little bit, I guess. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: That's the next thing we have is one thing you would change. That's probably the thing I would change. there's one other thing. So the first thing I would change is that you put the final cup at the end of the game and put the king before that. That way the final cup feels like, okay, I beat everyone else. Now I'm beating these actual masters that aren't thieves. ⁓ And I have to beat them in order and I can't like lose at all. That would be better. Other thing I would change. This thing, this annoyed me and I don't know why it's like this and it's maybe it's just because of the way the programming works, but you can have four or four, five decks saved at all at any given point ⁓ on you when out of your cards, right? But you can't have them using the same cards. Like if you wanted to, if you had four potions, that's it. You don't have any more than that. And you're making four decks and you want to run. three potions in all of them you can't because the first deck you have to have three potions in it and the next deck you can only have one because you only have four like i'm not using the same cards at the same time why do the decks have to have could pull from my only like you know what mean like if i was playing in real life yeah if i was playing in real life and i had a had like 15 energy 15 uh electric cards i would just swap speaker-2: your real life back speaker-1: me. speaker-0: That's what I did when I played Magic the Gathering. I wanted these cards, these specific cards, I would just swap them into the deck when I was going to play. I'm not using both decks at the same time, so why can't I just use all my potions in every deck? You know what mean? I don't know why. It's weird. speaker-1: I think on the back end, like at the very least, what they could have done is have a requirement where if you're going to select a deck, that's when it has to have 60. Otherwise, like if it's currently selected deck, exactly, then it doesn't have 60. But if you like, it brings you into the deck screen and be like, have to now put the remaining. speaker-0: save the deck like you can have four decks say like what you're saying you can't save a deck if it has less than 60 or more than 60 so what you have to do is just pad it with energy cards that you're not using to get to 60 because you took those cards out of that deck to use in the other deck why can't you just like Gabe said be like okay you can't you just take the cards out of this deck and you like why can't you save it less than 60 that's weird I don't know maybe it's just something maybe it's some kind of annoying hard programming thing that they couldn't figure out yeah that's the only thing I can think of There's no real, I don't think they any real mechanical reason to do it that way. Cause in real life, if I wanted, if I only had four potions and I was playing my fire deck and I want to use my water deck, I would just take the four potions out, put them in the water. speaker-2: Like mechanically you can only ever use one deck at a time in the game. So like, yeah. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, it would have been cool if like we had the ability to play against each other ⁓ using like link, but you can't really emulate that ⁓ unfortunately, but that would have been kind cool to do. speaker-1: Yeah, especially considering like Wi-Fi nowadays to like just hook up to a network and then be... Yeah. Ryan or Dual J. speaker-0: Like, there's netplay in lot of emulators. speaker-3: Keith, duel me too! No, you duel me too! speaker-1: or speaker-0: We do a keep it. We'd always win because it terrible. It's the starter deck. I do like the coins thing. have like. I was going to say, like I do like I like the coins that instead of getting like a badge, you get a coin and it's like a little commemorative coin and you can change it. Yeah, I use Kabuto coin or the Kabuto. Yeah, the little bug guy, little horseshoe crab. Kabuto. speaker-3: Yeah. websites you can speaker-1: Okay. Yeah. speaker-2: face as soon as I saw that I was like ⁓ I'm using that the game and I did the shocked Pikachu meme coin yeah I couldn't believe they had it in there speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: I mean, if we wanted to play Pokemon against each other, we could technically make proxy decks of, you know, printed cards, which is something we people do sometimes, but and then limit it to just the cards in the game. that seems one of these, one of us doesn't live in the same state. So I don't know how that would work. speaker-3: Like I said, the Yu-Gi-Oh has something called Yu-Gi-Oh Pro, which is like a website or program or little thing you can download for free. It has every card in the game and you just can make your own decks and you can play on mine. speaker-2: The pan. speaker-0: Yeah, there might be. Maybe something like that for Pokemon. There's one for Magic. Magic had a program called Cockatrice, I think is what it was called. And it was the same thing. You could just make text that way. I think that's what it was called. speaker-1: There's gotta be something like that for- speaker-2: They have a showdown which is just battles. speaker-1: Something I would change is I'd improve the random number generator. Because like I said, it's not like, it's just annoying because it definitely, like when you get nine tails in a row, you're like, okay, this clearly is not like. speaker-0: Maybe the- speaker-3: They were just lucky. ⁓ speaker-1: Yeah, they were. speaker-0: I'm really astronomically lucky. speaker-3: It can happen. It's unlikely, but it will happen. speaker-1: That'd be the main thing. Sorry, I was just looking at the points because I was trying speaker-0: Would you guys? speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, because I used Mew towards the end. But for a long time I used StarMe coin, that's what it was. Once I got that I was like, ⁓ this is nice. Yeah. speaker-0: Okay. yeah ⁓ Would you guys finish this game again? Would you finish this game for the first time? Keith, will you finish this game ever? Probably? Probably not. speaker-3: Absolutely. speaker-2: He's going to forget about this and move on with life. speaker-3: As soon as this episode's over, I'm putting it out of my mind. speaker-2: Make sure you never forget. speaker-1: Yeah, we're bringing up every episode. speaker-3: That'd good. That'd be fair. Yeah. Yeah. OK. speaker-2: and every real life interaction too. You're gonna deeply regret not finishing this game. speaker-1: And every online interaction. speaker-0: It's thing. It's going to be a thing. You've already set the precedent. We're only three episodes in and you've already not played one of the games. speaker-3: Jacob hasn't played any of these games, so hey man. speaker-0: Jacob isn't in the podcast. He never expressed interest in- He's here in spirit, I guess, to play games we don't want to play. I would play this game again. I probably obviously not going to play it right now, but it's really cool. I'm like, yeah, we've said multiple times, I wish this game had been released in America. I would have played it for sure. When I was a kid, it's really fun. It's like got the perfect amount of cards that are not too, it's not too, you know, Advanced there's not a bunch of like Gentoo. It's like simple. The scope of it is kind of simple ⁓ And like you could just build debt whatever decks you want You could play the game totally differently the second time he played it. So like I would definitely definitely this game again. What about what about you guys? speaker-2: Yeah, I mean, um, before we ever played this game, you know, the first game was still something I always went back to anyway. I think they had it on the 3DS virtual store. So, you know, I had it there and then I have the actual part, but, it's just a fun game to me. I don't know. I will probably play the first card game again before I go back to number two. Um, Just to see how that's like. But I mean, I've always liked the first one and this is just more of the first one. Slightly different story, more cards. So, I mean, yeah. ⁓ speaker-0: and I think the deck building is worse than the first one. I don't think it's as easy. I think you don't get multiple decks at once. speaker-1: and think. speaker-0: Maybe I'm wrong. can't remember. had to try it again. speaker-1: I would, at the very least, probably play the first one. Like, play the first one now that I've played the second. I don't know that I would start this game over again. I would, however, continue to play it, like to get all the cards or something like that. Because I think... This isn't the type of game I would start over. This is type of game I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna pick this up and play it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. ⁓ So I think that's more like... I guess my answer is I would play it again but not like start it over again. I don't think I'd start it over again. I would just continue to play to like collect the cards to like play some duels like, I want to go fight Sarah from the water club. I miss Sarah. Legendary. speaker-2: I wonder if she remembers me. speaker-1: ⁓ I guarantee you she remembers me. ⁓ no, not again! speaker-3: No. speaker-2: in. speaker-1: Get out! Get out! speaker-2: I don't have any more boosters! speaker-1: Clubmasters, like, we've asked you, you know, we have a restraining order, you need to stay away. speaker-3: You speaker-1: I'd be really funny if could only, if like they only had a set number of boosters, which obviously they can't do because of the randomness of drawing cards. Like you have to have them have unlimited boosters, but it'd be funny. Like you beat them like 40 times. It's like, yeah, this person only had like 80 boosters. speaker-2: You ruined their life. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: someone out there to make a rom hack of this game where they add money to the game and then you can buy boosters from like a booster store or something and then speaker-1: random number generator wire speaker-0: Yeah, but also if you just keep playing over and over again and getting money, more and more and more money, and then you'd just be spamming it that way. speaker-1: Other point, Brian. Whatever. speaker-2: big money. speaker-1: I would probably, because something I had to do was save scum to get cards that I wanted because I wanted to build a Haymaker deck because I know that was a like meta back in the day during this the time that this game like came out and they were running these cards and so I really wanted to build one for the end game stuff and so I saved scum just to get the cards that I needed but I probably wouldn't save scum now. and just see what I got and like just I mean that's what I mean it's like I would just continue to play it probably not save scum anymore and just like win duels until I'm like okay I mean I'm gonna go try this speaker-0: Did you guys ever save scum for your prizes? speaker-2: ⁓ I mean you can save, pick a prize, go back and then pick a different prize. speaker-1: You do that. Oh, yeah. No, I never did that. speaker-0: I did it. I didn't always. I didn't always do it. I did it when it was a duel. I was like, I don't know if I'm going to win this and I don't want to start it all over again. So like, I really need a card to save to keep me afloat speaker-2: I would do that with Professor Oak, you know, I would say do Professor Oak, see what I got, go from there. speaker-0: Yeah, I say I save scum sometimes to get like, because there was like optimal paths where certain decisions I would make, I would just not could not win. And there's only I have to do this, this at this point, switch Pokemon at this time, not attack this time, switch this time, switch to this Pokemon. I did that a couple of times, but I didn't need to do it all the time. Like this game isn't that. speaker-1: didn't save scum that much and maybe that's why my hours is higher because I really didn't besides the boosters and I know what you're talking about Ryan I did do that a couple times towards the end just because I was like I don't want to not finish this game speaker-0: Mm-hmm. Yeah. That was my biggest motivation for doing it is like, don't want to keep losing to this person over and over again. Like all I need to do to continue is to beat it and like losing out. getting fucked over by like the RNG of the game. That's why I'm losing. My cards are. But I mean, it's cheating still. speaker-3: You speaker-1: like I think I did that. speaker-2: art. speaker-1: I yeah, it's I'm but I don't I didn't really save scum that much. I did it a couple of times out of frustration towards like, you know, the date was getting closer and I was like, I want to finish this game. Jane, I finished it. Yeah, you guys finished it like a couple. speaker-0: I have Fairly early. speaker-2: I got really hooked on it. I was really excited to play it. speaker-3: She finished it. speaker-0: I don't remember what day I finished it, but it was like, it wasn't last week. Jay finished first by a couple of days. And then I think it was maybe the middle of the month or something. think. yeah. Gabe last time on our last podcast, Gabe had was talking about how his family had the flu and then my family got the flu. ⁓ so that's what we did. We got that. We got back to back snow. speaker-1: you finish it first or did... suddenly finished it saturday speaker-2: We did. speaker-0: We talk about the ice storm thing on the last game the last podcast we got ice storm one week Then we got snow the next week, but the snow was worse. It daycare was closed Two days on the ice week three days on the snow week and then the next week we all got the flu So we were home the whole week. So it just February just you know, totally fucked us over. So A little bit I did play I played a lot of the game when I went on the snow weeks, but I didn't play speaker-3: Yeah, man. speaker-0: When I was sick, I don't think very much, but I may have finished it that week. I'm not sure. Yeah, would you guys do you guys think this game still holds up day? I definitely do. think if anyone ever liked the card game or like spoke my general or played the first one, you should definitely seek out the translation and play this game. Yeah, this is my favorite game we played so far. I like Zero Mission. We've only played three games, but I like this is my favorite one. speaker-1: Yeah, think we joked speaker-3: that he picked is his favorite one. Imagine that. speaker-1: I think we joked about this in the chat, but like after coming off of Castlevania, this was a nice, like, relief game that I really did just, like, of relax and have fun. I mean, didn't rush through it at all. Like I said earlier, ⁓ I took care of my Game of the Month for retro handhelds, which was Zelda, and that took me like a few days, maybe like four or five days to do. And the rest of the time I basically played Pokemon Trading Card Game and I really didn't rush through it, didn't try until like the very end where I was like, okay, well it's like Saturday, I need to like finish this game. But I just, yeah, it was, it's just like a fun kind of chill game. ⁓ And I don't know, like everything about it, the card art's great, the music's great, it was a great game. ⁓ I would say it's probably been I mean, I love Super Castlevania and Zero Mission. I'd say this is probably my favorite so far just because it's it was just a lot of fun. don't know. I mean, I like it's just it's Pokemon. You know, I grew up like loving Pokemon. I mean, I still like Pokemon a lot, but ⁓ not necessarily more modern stuff. But you know, I know Jay also loves Pokemon. So speaker-0: card games as speaker-2: Never makes reels on our channels about. speaker-3: Yeah. Ha speaker-0: Even more with ⁓ my card I can show some my cards on there With that being said would you guys want to find out what we're gonna play next month? speaker-1: ⁓ you know it. It sucks because last time I deleted- speaker-2: I can't wait to see what game Keeba wants to play next. speaker-3: I will play this one. speaker-0: I'm I was talking about this before I'm thinking you know Jay hasn't had it we've all had a wins of our butt Jay. Yeah But Jacob has games on here too. So I like what's gonna happen is you want to Jacob's games speaker-1: What did Jacob switch for? speaker-0: He switched percent. speaker-1: To Final Fantasy 7. Fantasy 7, right, right, right. Oh, that'd be good. speaker-0: So on the list we have Resident Evil 2, Shantae, Iron Man, XO Manowar, Croc, Legend of the Gobblers, Actraiser, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Doom. speaker-2: another Castlevania. speaker-0: Demons Crest, Shadow Tower, Final Fight, Final Fantasy 7, Space Station Silicon Valley, Gex, Enter the Gecko, Metal Warriors, and MediEvil. So you guys ready? ⁓ speaker-3: Ego, let's fucking go, let's fucking go! speaker-0: The audio is not playing. speaker-2: I'm watching the wheel so intently. dang. ⁓ no. Wait, wait, wait, wait. No! speaker-1: aw sh- speaker-0: I win a- speaker-1: He doesn't speaker-3: Yes! This- speaker-1: Now that- speaker-2: play keeps game so iron man and exo man a war heavy speaker-3: No more heavy speaker-0: So none of us have any incentive to finish it because he didn't finish the last game but if you weren't if you get and see ⁓ visually what happened it was very very slowly creeping it was on Shantae and I was like ⁓ cool I went again it was fairly it was getting closer and closer and closer in the very last second now it's Iron Man and it's a man of war heavy metal for ps1 yes I'm gonna make a whole episode talk speaker-1: Awesome. speaker-0: game. No one's going to know what this game is. This is the worst game for- speaker-3: ⁓ That's retro. That's fucking retro. That's why we're here, Ryan. You anyone's ever heard of Pokemon Trading Game 2? Japan only released? Didn't even know about this shit existed until a couple of years ago. Get that shit out of here. This is the real stuff. speaker-2: sexually speaker-1: baby speaker-2: I have been a really good one too. speaker-0: Yeah, I wanted to something. speaker-1: I'm excited for this just because I want to see if it really is that terrible or what. But he keeps saying it's terrible. I don't remember or have played this game. I don't think. No, okay. I played Wolverine. What was that for the PS1 or SNES? You know, the Wolverine game. speaker-3: It's rough. It's rough. Yes, I do. Yes, I do. Yes, I know what you're talking about. speaker-1: I've played that. ⁓ speaker-3: again. Even when I lose I win. speaker-0: we all- when Keith blinks we all- speaker-1: always This is fun though because me and Keith are big Marvel heads. Yeah, buddy. speaker-3: haha speaker-0: Yeah, and I'll be now I'll be the one that's not talking about anything. speaker-1: ⁓ f***ing speaker-3: I don't like superheroes. They're dumb. I don't want to play this game. Why didn't Short-Tay win? speaker-0: Yeah. speaker-1: BABY COMICS speaker-0: I mean, I'll play it. You didn't play my game. speaker-3: I did play Pokemon. I didn't play much of it, but I did play it. speaker-2: believe you. speaker-0: Well, any final thoughts? speaker-1: blessed. speaker-2: I'm not gonna play this game. speaker-3: Hey, hey, no, you have to, you have to play it. speaker-1: I'm gonna look up for it. speaker-0: is it a fighting game or- speaker-1: play for at least three hours. ⁓ speaker-3: No, it's like a, a beat him up, but it's like a shooter. speaker-2: I fast forward. speaker-1: Iron Man and Nexo Manable. speaker-0: Is it a shoot them up a side scroller? speaker-3: Sidescrolling shooter thing. speaker-0: Okay, well, I like those games. I mean, I like that genre of game. Well, I'd be using a lot of save states, probably. speaker-2: Okay. speaker-3: ⁓ it's. speaker-1: Yeah, wait, is this 3D? speaker-3: It's on, yeah, it's like 2D plane, but there's like, you're like 3D. It's weird. ⁓ Yes, exactly. So yeah, you'll, I mean, there's passwords in it like Castlevania. speaker-1: or is it 2D? speaker-0: It's- speaker-1: 3D elements. You put PS1, but I see a Game Boy version. speaker-0: feel like the PS1 is the one you want to play then though. Yeah. speaker-3: That's the one I played. speaker-1: Well, I was just interested. just. It's also Saturn. speaker-0: Plan both. speaker-3: Yeah. speaker-0: Yeah, I mean a lot of these are on multiple consoles, but I put the more prominent ones for most. ⁓ Any final thoughts? Play Pokemon Trading Card Game 2. It's a good game. you want to along, play Iron Man and XO Manowar Heavy Metal for the PS1. ⁓ You guys, you got anything? speaker-3: trading game. ⁓ Enjoy the next month. It's gonna be great. speaker-2: Thanks for listening. speaker-0: ⁓ So we actually we have a we do have a patreon. ⁓ There's just a $1 tier. That's it right now. Hopefully we if we make enough money, we can find someone to replace Gabe. ⁓ Job search and then maybe we can replace Keith to see doesn't actually want to do the only job he has. So if you guys want to support that, ⁓ you can do that for a dollar. ⁓ speaker-1: Yep. speaker-3: Whoa whoa whoa whoa speaker-0: Patreon Cart Creeps. can find us on YouTube at Cart Creeps. You can find us on Spotify and Apple Podcasts, Cart Creeps, Instagram, Cart underscore Creeps. Thanks for listening and we'll see you next time. Bye. speaker-3: Bye bye.