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I Am All In...Again: Where You Lead, I Will Follow (Season 1 E1 “Pilot”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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  Speaker 2: That's you.
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  Speaker 3: I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, Welcome to round two of I
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  Speaker 1: Am all In. This is the I Am all In
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  Speaker 1: Again Podcast one eleven productions. iHeartRadio, iHeartMedia, iHeart Podcast, Episode one,
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  Speaker 1: Season one. The Beloved Pilot with special guest, the One
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  Speaker 1: the Only, Seawan Gun. Yes, he is here with us.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna shake things up a little bit with Sean.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna include spoilers. Sean welcome. I think you have
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  Speaker 1: the better You win the background photo contest on this one.
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  Speaker 1: I like your background photo.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's for Cayl Welch from one Million Years PC.
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  Speaker 1: You can't go wrong with that. This is uh, this
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  Speaker 1: is Charro from the Early Years.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means. It's is one
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  Speaker 1: of our panty So Sean's going to join us.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: Danielle Romo from My Intrepid Crew is joining us in here.
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  Speaker 1: Hello Danielle, and.
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  Speaker 4: This is we're doing it again. We're doing it again.
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  Speaker 3: You're super fans.
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  Speaker 4: And Shanna have a question for you. Have you ever
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  Speaker 4: seen the pilot before? Because you're not in it. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: you have Okay, you know, oddly.
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  Speaker 3: It's like it's probably the episode that I've seen the
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  Speaker 3: most number of times because over the years, like there
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  Speaker 3: have been you know, all right, let's just get into it, right, Like,
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  Speaker 3: let's just get into it. So over the years, over
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  Speaker 3: the last twenty years or so, whenever I would date
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  Speaker 3: somebody who had never seen the show, well, first of all,
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  Speaker 3: that was a prerequisite. I wouldn't I wouldn't date fans
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  Speaker 3: of the show. So I'd have to only date people
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  Speaker 3: who had never seen it. And and they would occasionally
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  Speaker 3: be like, oh, I want to watch it. And so
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  Speaker 3: I've watched the pilot a few times over the last
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  Speaker 3: twenty five years, and then it and then it's like
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  Speaker 3: it didn't go much further than that, like.
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  Speaker 4: The one you were in the show.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I like, you know, in other words, you
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  Speaker 1: didn't make it to episode two, right, right, dating parlance? Okay, Right,
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  Speaker 1: And I got to.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out my wife, who's an amazing human and and
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  Speaker 3: just the greatest, but we didn't make it to episode
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  Speaker 3: two either, really, but yeah, yeah, she's she's watched a
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  Speaker 3: handful of the over the years, but like, I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe maybe you can get this scut if there's
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  Speaker 3: something weird about you know, you don't you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to totally share your TV persona with with with your
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  Speaker 3: actual human persona. You don't want those that ven diagram
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  Speaker 3: to overlap too.
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  Speaker 4: Much overlaps because his wife was in the series, like
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  Speaker 4: actually on camera.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I know what you mean. It's uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a lot of pressure. A can lead to a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous amount of disappointment B.
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  Speaker 3: For fans, well for my character particularly, it's like, right, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know, this is a grown man who lives in
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  Speaker 3: his mother's basement. Like, let's fire it up. Anyway, I digress.
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  Speaker 3: It was great to watch the pilot again and had
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  Speaker 3: been a few years. But it's also I think the
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  Speaker 3: episode that I last actually watched start to finish was
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  Speaker 3: also the pilot a few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: It is a terrifically watchable episode and what what what
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  Speaker 1: a fantastic opening sequence, just just beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I actually I'm curious about it because you would
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  Speaker 3: know more about this than I would, because I was
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  Speaker 3: under the impression that the entire pilot was was filmed
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  Speaker 3: in Toronto. It was, but there are some scenes in
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  Speaker 3: there that look like they're pickups on the Warner Brothers lot.
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  Speaker 1: Oh maybe they did do that. Which ones? Which one?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know there's one shot like there's one shot
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  Speaker 3: where worries like outside it chilt. Oh, yes, you get
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  Speaker 3: a larger sense of the Miss Patty and it looks
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  Speaker 3: I was like, wait a minute, that's saying that has
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  Speaker 3: to be the Warner Brothers a lot. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: was wondering if they when they picked the show up,
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  Speaker 3: if they did a couple of of exterior you know, shops.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I I think you're right, because
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  Speaker 1: it looked exactly. Miss Patty's looked exactly, and the backside
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  Speaker 1: of Stars in Front the other one too, right, and
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  Speaker 1: the front the front of Stars Hollow High School looked
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  Speaker 1: exactly like the back loot. And and also when when
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  Speaker 1: Rory and keko Or and Lane are walking up to
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  Speaker 1: the high school and they're having their conversation about the
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  Speaker 1: hay ride and the Korean doctor. Yes, that looked like
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  Speaker 1: the Warner Brothers. Yes, yeah, you're right, you're right.
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  Speaker 4: You know it didn't different.
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  Speaker 3: You know what else didn't was Luke himself. I just
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  Speaker 3: love That's my favorite thing. It's like it's like, like
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  Speaker 3: one of the big things different about about then, about
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  Speaker 3: twenty five years ago than it is now is you know, nowadays,
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  Speaker 3: at every show you have the whole season written before
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  Speaker 3: you even go into production, so there's no tinkering with
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  Speaker 3: these characters, which is fine. I mean, that's a fine
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  Speaker 3: way to do things. But it's interesting going back and
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  Speaker 3: watching the show and like Scott watching Luke and seeing like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't like you and the creators the show itself,
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  Speaker 3: you hadn't quite pinpointed who this character was, right, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't quite there. You were playing like you were.
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  Speaker 3: He was a super interesting character, super compelling. You wanted
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  Speaker 3: to see more of him, but he wasn't exist. He
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  Speaker 3: was like off center or something. Then and then over
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  Speaker 3: the court and that was exactly what happened with my
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  Speaker 3: character in the next episode, but like it's not exactly
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  Speaker 3: what he isn't where he landed, you know, and then
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  Speaker 3: Oka or playing it it starts to take its shape
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  Speaker 3: and do its thing and come into view. You never
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  Speaker 3: see that on television anymore. It doesn't just doesn't happen anymore.
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  Speaker 1: So you your deal not to get too personal, but
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  Speaker 1: your deal I mean, you weren't. Were you a series
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  Speaker 1: regular right away?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't. I wasn't. I had to they booked me for
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  Speaker 1: the pilot. That's it. Yeah, that was an audition. That
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  Speaker 1: was just an audition. I flew up to Toronto to
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  Speaker 1: do an audition to see if I was going to
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  Speaker 1: be on the show and actually film the pilot, because
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  Speaker 1: they could have redone those scenes with somebody else very easily,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, well, obviously you nailed it because I think
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  Speaker 3: that you know, I don't know if they did the
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  Speaker 3: kind of uh uh you know, viewer testing, right, you know,
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  Speaker 3: who knows if they showed this in front of a
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  Speaker 3: test audience, but I'm sure if they did, they were like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: we love that guy who's yeah, and so we said, okay, yes,
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  Speaker 3: let's keep him.
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  Speaker 4: Let's I don't quite understand that, Scott, though, because literally
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  Speaker 4: the show after you know, it starts on loare Li,
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  Speaker 4: but then it's Luke and lare Lie and the episode
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  Speaker 4: ends Luke and Lareli.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay, so the way right exactly. So that's the
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  Speaker 1: way it was described to me by my managers, that
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  Speaker 1: this is a chemistry test. The pilot is a chemistry
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  Speaker 1: test with you and Lauren, and if it works, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see it on screen. If it doesn't, they'll probably you know,
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  Speaker 1: reshoot it with another actor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, honestly, it's to me, it's the most
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  Speaker 3: fascinating thing about the pilot as a whole, which I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, you know how how wonky uh you know,
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  Speaker 3: you're you're your listeners are, but like it's it's it's
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  Speaker 3: like a it's a study in show business a little
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  Speaker 3: bit from two thousand, from the year it was made,
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  Speaker 3: where they're they're trying to use this alchemy to get
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  Speaker 3: all of the little pieces right and get the right
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  Speaker 3: chemistry between the two leads and the right chemistry between
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  Speaker 3: the you know, the the well between both Lauren and
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  Speaker 3: Alexis and then Lauren and you, and and then Lauren
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  Speaker 3: and Kelly. And they're trying to get everything right, and
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  Speaker 3: then they they shape a show out of it rather
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  Speaker 3: than doing all of that beforehand.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know what I mean, right, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And and and to to answer your question from before,
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  Speaker 3: I was I was not. I mean I was a
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  Speaker 3: it was a co star role, not even a guest
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  Speaker 3: star role.
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  Speaker 2: So it was.
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  Speaker 3: Which again to get like technical for for people who
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  Speaker 3: aren't actors, it's like, but the you know, guest star
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  Speaker 3: is higher on the totem pole than co star is.
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  Speaker 3: My agent at the time recommended that I pass on
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  Speaker 3: the audition films because yeah, it was a one day
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  Speaker 3: it was a one day co star role. And they
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  Speaker 3: were like, hey, you've been out there for you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'd been in I had been auditioning and doing some
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  Speaker 3: work for a year or two and and was like
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  Speaker 3: booking pretty well and was like recurring on on a
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  Speaker 3: different show on the WB that didn't last long, but
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  Speaker 3: like you know, I was doing I was doing fine
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  Speaker 3: for a struggling actor, and it was a it was
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  Speaker 3: a one day co star role. And they were like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're just pushing you for guest star only, which is
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  Speaker 3: like a little more money. It means you get I
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  Speaker 3: means you get hired for the week instead of for
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  Speaker 3: the day, or that your daily rate is a little
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  Speaker 3: bit better. And they're like, and we're not taking these
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  Speaker 3: types of roles. But my my manager at the time, Gordon,
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  Speaker 3: was friends with mar Casey from Chicago. Mara was one
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  Speaker 3: of the Marin and Jamie Rudowsky were the two great
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  Speaker 3: casting directors for our show, and they I think their
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  Speaker 3: work speaks for itself with all of the all of
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  Speaker 3: the great actors that ended up being on the show
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  Speaker 3: over the and uh in Gordon Knumara from Chicago, and
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  Speaker 3: so he so he said, yeah, your agents don't want
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  Speaker 3: you to do this, but I think you should do
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  Speaker 3: it because it's mar Is, my old friend and it's cool.
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  Speaker 3: And I was I was like I was with everything
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  Speaker 3: and I just wanted to work all the time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because what I'm still like, I'm like that now I
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  Speaker 3: want to just work all the time. And uh and
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  Speaker 3: so I said, well, let me just read the sides,
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  Speaker 3: you know, send me the scene. And I read the
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  Speaker 3: scene and I was like, this is funny. I can
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  Speaker 3: do it, and I can do it well, So of
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  Speaker 3: course I'll go in an auditions for it, not caring
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  Speaker 3: about the size of the role. And then and then
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  Speaker 3: the story goes on from there. But that's how I
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  Speaker 3: ended up on the show.
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  Speaker 1: Fascinating, fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: So literally we're talking where I am talking and our
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  Speaker 4: listeners are listening to two people that were supposed to
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  Speaker 4: be on for one or two episodes and became the
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  Speaker 4: whole series, Like, that's crazy to think about. You are
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  Speaker 4: a huge part, a havotal part of this series. And
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  Speaker 4: to just hear as a fan now now as a fan,
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  Speaker 4: how that almost you know in the beginning wasn't pinned
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  Speaker 4: out to be that way. It's crazy. I love it though,
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I just you know, they had so many you know,
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  Speaker 1: Amy and Dan had had blueprinted so many great characters. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they knew they they must have known, and that
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  Speaker 1: had something special. I mean they wrote, they wrote that script,
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  Speaker 1: they read that script, they had their friends read that script.
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  Speaker 1: The feedback must have been, you know, glowing from all corners,
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  Speaker 1: and so they knew what they had and I think
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  Speaker 1: they probably felt they could afford to be a little
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  Speaker 1: more cautious with certain roles, right, and not have to
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  Speaker 1: commit to certain people right away. I mean, they knew
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  Speaker 1: they had their core with you know, Lauren, Alexis, Kelly,
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  Speaker 1: and Ed right, so that's they have their Gilmours, but
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  Speaker 1: everybody else, I mean, you know Alex Borstein was originally Suki, right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then she couldn't get out of her and she
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  Speaker 1: would have been a great Suki because she's a she's
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  Speaker 1: a terrific actress. And then when Suki came in, and
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  Speaker 1: when when Melissa came in, it was like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: such a different energy and different vision for the character,
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  Speaker 1: but it worked so beautifully.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I don't I don't know what. You may
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  Speaker 3: know the story behind it better than I do, but
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  Speaker 3: I know that, like Alex was gonna play Sukie, she
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  Speaker 3: couldn't because she couldn't get out of it. The family
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  Speaker 3: got contract probably.
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  Speaker 1: The Fox series. What was that thing mad TV? Oh
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  Speaker 1: it was still mad TV back they wouldn't let her out.
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  Speaker 3: And and even that I heard like, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we may see more of her as the herd player.
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  Speaker 3: And obviously like Alex is God, she's good, right and.
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  Speaker 1: Like so tell it, tell it to the tip Jar,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right, and just kind of.
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  Speaker 3: Kept doing her thing, and yeah, that was that was interesting.
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  Speaker 3: My second episode, I had a little interaction with Alex
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  Speaker 3: when I was delivering Swans. But it's a yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's interesting. I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually a little worried when she was replaced.
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  Speaker 1: I said, oh, God, here we go. They find the
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  Speaker 1: perfect actress to play Suki. This is just amazing. You've
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  Speaker 1: got this, this really terrific actress. It's really funny.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever happened to Melissa McCarthy, by the way, did she go?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't hear of her. She's done any work after
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  Speaker 3: she was able to find work.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those stories, you know, It's one of
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  Speaker 1: those unrealized potential. It's just so sad.
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  Speaker 3: I saw her, like like the first year or something
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  Speaker 3: like that. I went and saw her perform in a
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  Speaker 3: very small groumblings show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were all there.
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  Speaker 2: We went together, like and like, God, she was good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Were you with us that night? No, I went, you went, okay, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 3: Went, Like by myself, I was.
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  Speaker 1: I was kind of you know, I was.
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  Speaker 3: It was another thing that came up watching the show
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  Speaker 3: is that, like I was so young in my career
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  Speaker 3: and I was always afraid of rocking the boat. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that if I I thought that if I
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  Speaker 3: was more vocal, I might lose my job. So I
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  Speaker 3: just didn't say anything. I didn't ask questions. I tried
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  Speaker 3: to show up and do the thing like I.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't know, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Like my first three episodes, I played the DSL installer,
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  Speaker 3: the Swan delivery guy, right and then I think I
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  Speaker 3: show up in the third episode is as Kirk right,
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  Speaker 3: you can't remember if the Civil War of the Revolutionary
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  Speaker 3: War reenactment was before that, before or after my I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if that was third or fourth. But like,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was actually playing the same character.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know if I was like being a different
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  Speaker 3: guy because they all had different names, and I didn't
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  Speaker 3: I hadn't seen the show yet. It hadn't aired, so
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know exactly what was going on, and I
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  Speaker 3: just didn't ask. I was like, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 3: do my mines and try to make.
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  Speaker 4: They'll figure out how it all makes sound.
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  Speaker 3: They'll tell me if they want me to do something different.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I was afraid to ask what was
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  Speaker 3: going on, which is funny.
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  Speaker 1: That's smart. I mean, that's a smart way to go
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know, you know, you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be that nail that sticks up right away, no hammer
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  Speaker 1: you All right, Well, let's get into it, Danielle. Why
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  Speaker 1: don't you give us a little synopsis on episode one
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  Speaker 1: season one?
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  Speaker 4: All right? So, season one, episode one, the pilot air
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  Speaker 4: day October fifth, two thousand. The storybook Connecticut Town of
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  Speaker 4: Stars Hollow is home to thirty two year old Lorelai
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  Speaker 4: Gilmore and her sixteen year old daughter Rory. Rory and
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  Speaker 4: her best friend Lane are straight A students at the
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  Speaker 4: local public high school, but when Rory is accepted into
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  Speaker 4: the prestigious Chiltern Prep in nearby Hartford, the Steve Tuition
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  Speaker 4: fee forss Lorelei to try to mend the long standing
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  Speaker 4: rift with her wealthy parents, Richard and Emily, and ask
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  Speaker 4: for financial help.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's so fascinating about this show is you've
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  Speaker 1: got two legitimate leads. You've got two legitimate shows here
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  Speaker 1: in Lorelei and Rory. And then as it matures, I
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  Speaker 1: mean you could you could make separate shows just changing
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  Speaker 1: the POV a little bit from each of their storylines.
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  Speaker 3: Right, absolutely, Yeah, it's a It is a beautiful pilot.
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  Speaker 3: It is like really yeah, you know, you look at
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  Speaker 3: it from a storytelling perspective and it's like, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: how easily can I describe it to a friend of mine?
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  Speaker 3: And it's very easy, you know, mother daughter? They look
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  Speaker 3: like sisters.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god, it was so in this episode. I
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  Speaker 4: literally was like, are they sisters? Or is Rory? Or
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  Speaker 4: is alexis Lauren's actual daughter. They are so similar it's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: And if I'm if I'm correct, they were playing sixteen
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  Speaker 3: and thirty two, Yeah, and they were like eighteen and
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  Speaker 3: thirty two. They were like very close to actually.
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  Speaker 4: Being that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, being what they were, and yeah, you're right, Scott.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you can look at it from any perspective.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, oh, we have we have the mom's story,
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  Speaker 3: we have the daughter's story. It's very clear. If you
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  Speaker 3: put the money to go to school, you got to
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  Speaker 3: come here every Friday. You got to go back to
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  Speaker 3: this old life that you've run away from. It's all.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: It's very very clean and almost very very dense, very
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: very dense. It's almost like those two were one character.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you know you were following both of them,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: even though one was because you were always thinking of, Okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: how's Laurai going to react when Rory's doing this stuff
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: over here? And how's Rory going to react when Laura
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: is going to do that? It's like, yeah, there one character.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Pretty much to.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: Your point, it felt like the first half of the
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: pilot was very much Lauraai point of view. She was,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: you know, leading it. She was the main but then
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: it almost shifted when Rory decided she was feeling or
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: having cold fee about Chiltern, and then it became her
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: point of view. And in my opinion, I felt like
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: a shift where in the beginning it was all Laurai
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: and in the second half it started to feel all Rory.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys got that, but I
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: felt a shift there.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: So when we start off, it's shot in Canada most
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: of it, as we have been discussing some obviously we're
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: shot at the back lot on Warner Brothers. But and
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: that was a vote taken by the cast, and and
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the very first shot of the pilot, Main Street is
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in Unionville, Ontario, which is just north of Toronto, which
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: is really like, uh, start that that's the model for
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Stars Hollow, is that is that sort of fantasy town
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: with cobblestone streets and and antique architecture and wonderful little shops.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: And the hardware store on Main Street was turned into
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Luke's Diner. That was an actual hardware store in Unionville
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that they converted for the filming. And this is how
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the story of turning Luke turning his father's hardware store
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: into a into a diner came to be.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: The pilot, I will say, has a slightly different cinemount
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of quality compared to the episode shot at Warner Brothers
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: a lot. It really did feel like film. It felt,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: you know, Leslie linka gladder shot this almost like it
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: felt like a movie almost did How did you feel
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: about that?
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it's noticeable. I think when you watch it, like, oh,
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: this is this is a little bit different. This is
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: like one step It's kind of what we were talking about.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: It's like one half a step outside of of what
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: the show actually is. It looks cool, but it's also like,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: you know, it's finding its secure footing, you know, and
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: it's not it's not quite there yet. I was pretty
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: startled by how the you know, by how the diner itself,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: even though it's clearly a different location because the door
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: isn't a different spot right the doors right in the
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: middle instead of on the corner. But all the other
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: details are very very good, like the you know, the interior.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: There were a couple of times when I would see
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: a shot from the interior that I was like, that's
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: not a pickup from Warner Brothers, is it? And it wasn't,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: but it's like all of the you know, the production
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: design was like was pretty impeccable.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And talking about the different looks, I think what
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we're dealing with here is East Coast natural lighting versus
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: West Coast sunlight, which is always golden or yellowish, right,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: and they have to tamp that down to make it
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: look like Connecticut because it's completely different light. That was
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: the big I think Leslie used a lot of natural
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: lighting or very minimal lighting in shooting the pilot. Obviously
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: she'd do some lighting indoors.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, and it's also the like like it's there's
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: a little bit of a different like I remember well
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: that in the first season, I remember Lauren was nominated
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: for a Golden Globe in the category of Best Actors
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: on a Comedy show. And then between seasons one and
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: two they changed our standings are standing from a comedy
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: to a drama because they didn't know where to put
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: it right right right, And I think that I think
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: that that is also reflected you talk about like the
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: East Coast ladic versus West Coast lading. There's also a
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: little bit of a comedy versus drama eension going on,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: which is like, what exactly is this center of this show?
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: Like where is it? Where is it supposed to land?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Which is great, it's what audiences want now. They don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: want to see things that are that are you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: cookie Cutter are like we're going to tell you this
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: is a comedy, or we're going to tell you it's
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: like kind of somewhere. It lives somewhere in the middle,
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: And that was that was unique, Like there weren't a
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: lot of shows that lived in the middle.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, you're right, it probably Gilmour probably influenced
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of shows to you know, walk that tightrope
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: between trauma and comedy because this did it so well. Yeah,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I'm always looking
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: at this like it's a comedy with very effective because Sean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: as you know, the best comedy comes from the most
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: tension in the most dramatic situations. Yeah, and this provided that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: So I always saw it as a comedy and I
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: think it works best as a light comedy with a
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: touch of drama.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, look, I've said this like many times
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and I'll say it again. Like the reason I ended
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: up on the show for as long as I was on.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: It was because when I read the first scene of
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: the DSL installer the first time I was on the
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: show and I read the scene, I was like, I
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: get this. I'm a student of film in film history.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: I know, like old film comedies like prest and Sturge's
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and Howard Hawks, like I've seen his Girl Friday. I've
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: seen like rapid fire forties comedy, and that's what this is.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: And that's what I was playing, and I think that
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: that's what Amy saw. She was like this guy gets it.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: But right, but did you feel that the pilot because
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: what I noticed in the pilot, it was more relaxed.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: It wasn't so speedy time. It unfolded like in a
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: little more naturalistic way. Nothing was rushed. Especially I especially
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: noticed it with Rory and Lane scene when they're walking
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: up when first see them, very relaxed and then you
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: sort of fast forward to what it became and it
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: was just everything was just yeah, fast paced.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know, yeah, and I don't you know, it's
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: like works.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: Either way, you know, I agree, yeah, works either way.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: All right, so we are uh right, then there you go.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: We did kind of talk about how Luke isn't Luke
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: in this episode. Yet, Yeah, so because we see I
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: think they were trying to see what stuck, right, So
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: they tried the flannel with the backwards hat, then they
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: tried the button up shirt. He also was like very
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: sweet and carrying and not caring, like very sweet and
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: personal and like no disrespect to Luke. But we know
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: that wasn't who he really was in the series, So
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I feel like even his personality was a little bit
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: different in this as well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I just think I just think I went with it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: what I did in the audition that worked. It got
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: me the role, that got me the offer, not the role,
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: but got me the pilot. I didn't get the role,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I got the pilot. I got the role in the pilot.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't get the whole, the whole mcgilla.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: It was like my manager said, listens, like, don't screw
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: this up, because this could be really nice because, like
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Sean said, this begins with Luke and it ends with
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Luke Steiner. You know, it starts there, and so there's
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: got to be there's a reason for that, and you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: obviously it's it's the potential sparks between Luke and Lorelei
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: and you see.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: That especially with the button up shirt scene, you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: where you two you can just see it like, Okay,
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: where is that going to go with the two of them?
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: Did they tell you Scott about like was it? Do
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: you remember the description of the character when you audition
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: for it? Was he supposed to be a hard ass
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: basically like he was like no nonsense, you know, like
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: I noticed a couple of things that are like red
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: meat will kill you. Yeah, stuff like that. I don't
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: know that he I don't know that Luke would have
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: said that three seasons later, but it was it was funny,
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: Like I liked it. It was like I I longed
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: for that like sort of that that level of of acid.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Well, you get it from Luke, you get it from
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you get it from Michelle, and you get it from Drella.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: There's there's three characters there that embody that kind of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: DNA where it's just like this dead pan kind of
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: throwaway and I don't care. Which I think was Amy
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and Dan's interpretation of East Coast.
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: You know, Emily, Emily carries out a little bit.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: To right exactly, Yes, yeah, right, there's so that's East Coast,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Northeastern snark and you know, even if you know Luke
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: isn't a quote unquote educated person, it all, you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: it trickles down everywhere, especially in that area because that's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you know, that's the IVY League, that's Ivy League turf
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: up there, So it all trickles down. So it's all snarky, fast,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: funny kind of stuff.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: And that's Amy, right, I mean that's yeah, Like, that's
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: that's all those characters all a little bit speaking to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: her voice.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, they're all her.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: We've often tried to pin down which characters are are
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: most like Amy or if Amy, did Amy write herself
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: into one of these characters, and we're trying to figure
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: that out.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: And what do you guys say is the answer to that?
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I thought Paris maybe, oh yeah, wow, that's it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: That's actually pretty good.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: But not Amy. But it's like Amy, it's like three
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: quarter Amy, because Amy's very to me.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: It's more like what percentage of Amy is every character?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: That's that's the better question.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe his high as like seventy five percent, right, it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: like thirty Rory's fifteen percent, right, Emily sixty percent? Like
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: there's right, right, you could probably go through, and I'm
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: sure your fans will enjoy doing that. I'm not going
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: to do it myself. But I know I don't think
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: I actually don't think Kirk she's They always thought Kirk washilarious,
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: but that's not I think k might actually be more
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: damn than than he is.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Amy. That's right interesting, But I don't know that he's
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: either interesting. But Amy, you know, Amy is so the
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: real Amy in life is she's so up and positive
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: and just infused with energy and motherly love for everyone,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: hugs and laughter. That's Amy. She's she's she's a you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: she's she's a quite a presence when she comes on set.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, she's She's the greatest. I it's
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: always a funny thing to me to go back, like
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: I did, to hear him and and and like watch
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: early episodes of the show, and you know, watch the
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: pilot episode and think that for me, Amy was like
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: sort of scary, you know, like she was she was
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: my ball, and she was you know, she was the
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: person who could write me off the show at any time.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: So even though I I didn't necessarily have any reason
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: to fear her, I did, you know, I was always
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: all you know, like, yeah, he was the boss, and
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: it's it's crazy to me to now look back and
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: be like wow, Amy was like she was like in
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: her mid thirties show running this uh this this project
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: that was really her baby, you know. It was like
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: it was like she she like did every part of
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: that was was like from her creative mind and was
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: was was constantly dealing with outside influences of people who
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: thought like, oh, let me, let me tell you how
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: to do this a little bit better. She show yes
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: and like and like there were there were studio people,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: and there were other There was a lot of pressures
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: on people who who want to tell young women that
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: they are not as that they are not as smart
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: as capable as they think that they are. And there
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: were a lot of people like that coming down on
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: Amy and she was like no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you don't. This is my show. I'm doing it the
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: way I want to do it. And I have so
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: much respect for her that that I've learned over the
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: years in the business that like, oh she just wasn't
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: she just wasn't taking any notes. Yeah, yeah, she was
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: like I don't I'm not interested in in your in
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: your notes. I love it. I think it's great.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, very very bold step too, yeah
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to go, you know, toe to toe. But it is
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: why the show is so unique. It is, it is
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: why it's you know, it's become. I used to think
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: it was just because of this seeming growth and resurgence
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: of the show. It's it really has sustained all these years,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: but it just seems like generation after generation is discovering it.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: It's number eight on the Nielsen streaming ratings and it
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: was been off the air since two thousand and seven.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's six hundred and forty million minutes per
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: week consumed on average the show. It's it's it's insanity
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: how popular this show is. And I used to think
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it was purely a nostalgia play. It's not. It's relevant
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: today because of the because it's so smart and it's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: so funny, and how does that ever get old? Nobody
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: gets sick of that, So it's so now it's really
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: not as a surprise that, you know, children as young
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: as six and seven years old are watching the show
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: with their arents. Men are discovering it now and Sean,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: you do uh, you do more conventions than I do.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: But when I'm at them and we're at them together,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: what do they do. They they bring these their little
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: little babies dressed to the characters and and and it's
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: and the men are like, oh, I love the show
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: more than my wife. And it's everybody. It's actually tell
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: you how.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Many I can't tell you how many young like young
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: women that I'm like, young girls that I've met who
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: are named.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: The Laurelai right, yes, or Rory. I just met a
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: couple of I'm in Canada shooting another show and I
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: just met a couple of people that they named them
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: their daughters Rory.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: It's crazy, yes, yeah, And and I do I always
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: answer that question when people ask what is how do
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: you attribute the longevity of the show? I'm like, well,
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: great writing kind of rises to the top. And Amy's
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: a great writer, and she knew what she was doing
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: and she knew what she had and and that's really it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, there's there's a lot of other little pieces
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: that worked that helped it. There's a lot of alchemy
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: that goes into the good luck of having it be successful.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: But it always you can always whittle it down to
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: that core of like yep, Amy's writing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: How solid is the writing? Yeah, you can have you
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: can have the best crew, you can have the best actors.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm watching a lot of things now
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: because I have, you know, a day off here, so
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to catch up on stuff, and there's always
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: a point where it's like I shouldn't have done that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: You don't watch it anymore. It just takes one kind
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: of bone headed decision on the writer's side and it's over.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: It just kills it. And all these sort of limited
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: series and that you see now right, there's so much
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: content and they inevitably fail at some point early on.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: They start out like a house on fire, but you
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: know it's not going to last. This one lasts.
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: And I think.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: My take is, yes, I one hundred percent agree with you.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: It's the quality of the writing. It always has been
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: for me. Anything that I love, it's always great writing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: You know, great writing attracts great directors, great producers, great actors.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: It attracts all the top tier talent. Because the thing
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood is how good is a script? And this
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: is a really hot script. It's not like, you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: there's any other element that needs to be attached to it.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Elements will attach themselves to great writing. And it's just
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: the humor of the show. For me, after watching going
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: through all these one hundred and fifty three shows in
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: four episodes, it's the humor. It's I think people, we'll
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: keep coming back for a lot of reasons. But it's
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: so funny and it's so much humor. It's so dense.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Every episode has fifty to one hundred laughs, you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: big kind of big laughs, and you don't get you
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: don't get that kind of volume in quality anywhere else.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It's overwhelmingly good, you know. It's just it's just overwhelming,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: and people have to watch it because they don't hear
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: they're too busy last and they laughing, they miss the
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: next two jokes. Oh, so they're gonna see it again anyway.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about the music on
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: There she goes opening up. The whole entire pilot.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Was so good, just iconic. It's thrilling to watch the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: pilot because you get to hear that song and see
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: those pictures. It's just such a beautiful opening. It's sung
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: by the Laws and help the Laws. Yeah, and there
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: she goes It's been covered by sixpence, none the richer,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: and this song became iconic with the fans and with
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: me and where the Colors Don't Go by Sam Phillips,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: the Great Sam Phillips, when Lorelei parks in front of
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: her parents mashing. This was a deeply emotional episode in
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: every beat was so clearly deeply emotional, and the music
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: had a lot to do with it. Oh yeah, you know.
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: That was the thing that was one of the things.
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I talked earlier about being a little bit
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: of afraid of any and one of the things that
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: that sort of broke that barrier was talking to Dan
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: Palladino and understanding that he and I were both like
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: deep dive music fans and where Dan comes from musically,
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: and you know, I like Daniel Palladino for those who
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: don't know, knows just about everything about in music, like
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: go ahead and yeah and I and I hear that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I hear the laws and I'm like, oh, that's that's
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: probably Dan's influence there. Who knows, but but yeah, God
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: that that music is so good. I was able to
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: meet Sam Phillips at the one of the uh you know,
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: a rap party for for something, and she also does
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: all of the la la la la, that's all. That's
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: all same?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Really is that true?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: She she's she's amazing.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: She like if you've never heard her, She's got a
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: bunch of great albums. But she has an album called
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: a Boot and is Shoe that's really just like phenomenal
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: that if you know, for anyone who wants to go
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: back and listen to her music, like that's that's my
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: favorite album of hers. Yeah, the music's great.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: I do want to talk about how we meet each character, though, Scott,
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: because I think I'll let you you take it away,
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: but I feel like I want to go through each
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: character and how we meet them, and it truly does
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: set up the rest of the series. There's just little
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: nuggets in this pilot that play true through all seven
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: seasons and the movies.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, as you know, we first see Laura
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: La that's the first person we see. Then we see Luke,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: we meet him, then we meet Rory in that order.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Here's a little side note. Liza Wheel, who played Paris,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: originally auditioned for Rory. Can you imagine she probably would
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: have been pretty good at it too. After Alexis got depart,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Amy told her if the pilot got picked up, told
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: Liza that is, if the pilot got picked up, she'd
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: write an arc specifically for her, which is very very
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: generous of somebody to do, which meant, yes, she did
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: have control of her universe and she was going to
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: do anything that she wanted to do. Michelle we meet
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: quickly at the end, and we established that he is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: kind of a better dressed French version of Luke. Now
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: and Lane and Rory walk up, they establish their best
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: friends deans at school, and we learn a lot about
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: their friendship and Lane's life in a very short scene.
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: You know, all they had to do was talk about
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the hay Ride and my mother, my Korean mother, and
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: Korean doctors, and we got to do this hay Ride
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: as a pre date and see if it's gonna So
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: we know a lot about Lane already.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: We also find out that she loves rock music like
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: in this very first scene, so that kind of sets
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: up a lot for her character later on too.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: And we see Dean revealed at the school he's been
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: watching Rory, not in a creepy way, according to.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: Dean, just in a creepy way seeing you every day
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: after school. It's just this book last week, in this
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: book this week.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Oh God, Dean, whenever you hear somebody say out loud, yeah,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: it wasn't in a creepy way.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I think it probably was.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I don't know.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: Can look can can sixteen year olds be creepy? I
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: mean I don't think so. I mean they're just like, yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: they're just discovering all this stuff. It's like they don't
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: know what that does, and they scare, you know, they're
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: scared of rejection. And by the way, that doesn't changes
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: one ages. This is Rory's first love interest, and she
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't even notice him until she drops, Uh what what
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: book did she drop? It wasn't Moby Dick, but it
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was was it? The on the Road? Was its? I
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: think it was something like that. Anyway, it was right
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: right because he said Melville. He said something about Melville.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Deed it all right? So then we meet Melissa, we
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: meet Suki and just boy and I thought this stuff
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: for me, that was the most impressive chore choreography in
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: the entire show, the most Suki's kitchen uh stuff was
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: to me, the best orchestrated, best blocked, just the most
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: entertaining stuff. Yeah, what a brilliant introduction to a character.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: Well, if I if I jump in for just a second,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: it's like, go for it, and I want you to
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: keep going. But but I like, I can't help when
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: I'm watching it. I'm watching the people, right, so I
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: can step outside of I'm not a you know, after
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: all these years, I'm not a of you know, I'm
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: not watching it the same way a fan is. I'm
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: watching remembering what Melissa was like in the year two
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: thousand and what Alexis was like, and what Jared Padleki
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: was like, and as as people what they're actually doing
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: performing on the show, and it's just fascinating. It's it's
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: very clear to me now you know how much Melissa
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: is just like she's so on top of every single
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: thing that she's doing. She's just like her her her
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: game is really sharp, right, you know you know what
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: I mean? Yeah, really to be really on top of
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: every single note. And then you watch Jared and Alexis
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: and their kids, you know, like they were like plucked
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: out of whatever universe they lived in, was like here
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: go be on this television show.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: High School. Dean came out of High school. Oh my god,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he graduated high school and came to LA and got
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: a job.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Dude, he's the greatest. I see him. I feel like
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I see him like every five years, and he's just
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: he's just crushing life. That kid. I know he's not
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: a kid anymore, but he'll always be a kid to me.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: But he you know, it's like he yeah, he was
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: like sort of plucked out of high school. I think
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: he was handing out flyers a Universal city when somebody
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: was like, hey, are you an actor? He's like, I'm
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: trying to me an actor. Yeah, well let me send
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: you on some auditions. It's like here I am on
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: a television sh right right right, Like he's just and
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: he's so great. I love watching those scenes and being like, wow,
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: this guy he really is just plucked out of yeah
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Texas and they threw him on the show.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: Very talented young guy, Yeah, very talented.
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: He's a talented middle aged guy.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: Now, yeah, you're more talented middle age.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: He was forty, he probably is forty one. We're old,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: you and I are.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: No, Well i'm old.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: No, you're not, I know, but i am.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty, I am all.
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. We're all age.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: The one important to take it back to Suki. The
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: one important thing that I remember in this scene is
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: that they established that they're going to open an in
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: one that that's their goal, that they're going to open
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: up an inn one day, and that Davis planted very
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: very early on.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Just just a beautiful scene and and a beautiful relationship
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: between Laurel and Suki, and you just look forward to more,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: very loving, very supportive, very it's gonna it's gonna breed
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: a ton of humor. You just know it, all right.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: So now we quickly we're quickly establishing who everyone else is.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: But now we go into missus Kim's Kim's antiques and
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: where she utters the famous line to Rory, who tries
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: to make a joke about her line about nobody got
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: pregnant and dropped out of school. Uh. Missus Kim looks
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: at Rory and says, boys don't like funny girls. Made
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: me fall off the couch. Just great. So now we
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: understand that Lane's got a really strict mom. Ye, So
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: more to come with that, all right. So Laura I
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and Rory banter, we see how they are best friends
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: instead of it's your not your typical mother, right, it's
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: not your typical mother daughter relationship. She's concerned with They're
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: concerned with each other's happiness, you know, and that's very touching.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: And she even says stuff to her mother after, you know,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: she finds out she gets into Chiltern and how did
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: that happen? Did you sleep with you seem really happy?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Did you do something slutty? I mean, what daughter talks
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to my mother like that? I mean, it's just it's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: just so great.
• 50:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're definitely established best friends.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: Wait, and you got to say.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: The response is even better.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: She's like, did you do something? She's like, you look happy?
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Did you do something slutty? And rights.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: It's about as racy as it gets, right, Oh yeah,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: so you know you're safe, but you're it's still pushing
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the envelope a little bit outside. It doesn't break out
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of family friendly ever.
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: Really, you know, that joke is like a double off
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: the wall. It's like a beautiful, straightforward, hilarious but it's
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: kept it in the park. It's great anyway, kept it in.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: The park, right, exactly, all right, and learn And one
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: of the great moments of that pilot is learning that
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Rory got to Chilton, and I think and that provides
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: such an upward movement of energy in this seriod and
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: a just a very it's it's a very the power,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the powerful, one of the powerful engines in this rocket ship,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: if you will.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: All right, so all and we're excited that she gets
• 51:35
  Speaker 4: to go to Chilton because it's hopefully the next step.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: To Harvard, right right, aspirational Right, So now the jeep.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Now we establish the jeep because now Laura I can't
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: pay for it. It's fifty thousand dollars. She doesn't happen. Well,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of zeros after that five, you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and it's just an hysteric a phone call showing the
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: skill set that Lauren brings to bear on this character
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: and you know, making us laugh, just her and a
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: telephone on a set and not talking to anyone, No,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: just mad skills coming out of that woman. And you
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: know she's got to go. And that beautiful moment again
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: with that beautiful music from Sam Phillips, looking at that
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: old photograph of her as a small child in front
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: of her parents' house and then zooming in on that
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and then transitioning that shot into reality and then we
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: camera pans over Leslie Lincoln glad Or did a fabulous job.
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: We know exactly where we are. It's like it's not
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: exactly there's nothing confusing about it. We get it right,
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: you know, we know where they are. I mean, and
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: also you just mentioned this, but like it's the kind
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: of thing that you know over over the years, you
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: forget to say it. But Damn, Lauren is good. Damn
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Like right, it's like she what.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: She's doing as a young woman there playing someone who's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: wise beyond her years.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: That is and you know and is clearly still young.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: She's a young woman and she's got she can do
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: all that and all the world, like I had.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: To grow up fast, and like she just crushes it.
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: It's so good, right because there's that edge to her, right,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: there's that there's that and you and you sense it
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: and you hear it in her voice and that skill.
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: That's something that that's a choice she made as an actress.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: You know, all of those nuances and layers that she
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: put onto that character. You know, we're the beneficiaries of it.
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: Just just a brilliant portrayal, absolute brilliance. And we meet
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Richard and Emily and what what a what a scene
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: that was at the door and we kind of and
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: you know, as we got into this scene and I
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: was watching a Richard come into and this attitude they
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: had with her. But I just thought, you know, how
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: crushing it was for them thirty well sixteen years ago
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: when their only child who was destined for what they
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: were grooming her for, which was you know, private school
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: at Harvard and a big life out there with you know,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: and a lifestyle is akin to theirs. And boy were
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: they must have I mean, how crushing it must have
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: been for them that this thing happened, This that life
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: happened to their only child. Life happened, and you know,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you can feel any way you want about it, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: just think about what it did to them. They obviously
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: did not react, well, they alienated their own daughter, but anyway,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I felt real. That's that's the thing that hit me
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: the second time around watching this pilot is the pain
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: coming out of of Richard and Emily, the two of
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: their pain. Yeah, how they just know too.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: And I always like Edward Hermann is always just he's
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: always completing the assignment, you know, And it's like and
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: you see it his his character is both. You know,
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: he's a likable guy, but you see the like you
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: see how he also is dominating. You see how he's
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: a pain in the ass. You see how like he's
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: he's a lot of things and and I get it.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: I understand their pain, and I also understand why Laura
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't really want to be a
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: part of this while I'm while I'm doing that's whether
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: the pilot works so well. You visualize her being sixteen
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: and saying like, I'm going to do this, but I'm
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: going to do it on my own. Yeah, it adds up.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: And you can say the same thing about Emily two.
• 56:29
  Speaker 4: She's a lot of things, a lot and we know that,
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, she just wants
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: to somehow get Laura Lai back in her life. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: there's all too your motives with the you know, the
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: money and all that kind of stuff, But at the
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: end of the day, she just wants Friday night dinner.
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: And and that's set up in this episode Friday night dinners.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, And that's that's another thing. How flowery and
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: intricate and funny the writing is with so much verbiage, right,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: yet yet Amy and Dan manage to very clearly allow
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: an audience to read the sign posts and know exactly
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: where we are, not necessarily exactly where we're going, but yeah,
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: their beats are really clear. So you feel the same
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: way you feel when you're watching a great movie. You
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: know you're in the hands of a master, and you
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: just get comfortable and enjoy the ride because you trust
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: so much the writing. You trust that they're going to
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: get you to a place that's going to surprise and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: delight you and fascinate you and engage you. And that's
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: it's a very rare quality that you can be so
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: intricate and detailed and funny and dramatic and yet still
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: be clear and still be really great at storytelling, you
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a lot of great writers
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: that don't know anything about structure. They don't know where
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: the beach should come. And you know, I read a
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: lot of scripts and it's like, wow, you know, you're
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: a really good writer, but where's the story. Where's this going?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: You know, it's dragging here? And like if you're going
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, if you established in the first
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: act that you're gonna go kill a shark, then you
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: better start killing a shark at the second act. You
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: better go after you know what I mean. So so
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's really the versatility of the writing
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: is it's phenomenal, and it's rare. It's rare. So we
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: learn here also that the iconic Gilmore House was actually
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: in Toronto. The layout of their house changes a little
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: or actually a lot in this episode due to the
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: pilot being picked up by Warner Brothers. Laura I takes
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: a business class twice twice a week. We learned that,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: we learn Rory as a reader. Obviously, she's doing very
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: well in school. She's very shy studious, and now we
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: see that the Chilton, a private school, is going to
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: play a role in her character's development. We learned the
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: character and Chilton becomes a character, and that she has
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: aspirations to go to Harvard and that's what everybody wants
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: for even though her we don't find this out yet,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: but her dad's a Yale man and she's holding herself
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: to a higher standard then her mother maybe even got
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: a chance to write. So so we're learning there's a
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: lot of information coming at us in a very entertaining
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: and very dramatic and a very funny. This pilot introduces
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to its audience these trademark pop culture references a.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: Ton in this episode, just a ton tons and yeah.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Sometimes and there are actually fewer in the pilot that
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: compared to later episodes. So some episodes were just so
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: full of them that oh and we would notice too,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: because we would do it. We we did a pop
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: culture episode wrapped and some were just.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: Just hours long.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: They were really they had to be cut.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Down to I noticed that in the pilot the foot
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: is like off the gas a little bit on the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: pop culture references.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: On the pop culture references, and we said this already,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: but also on how fast the dialogue is. The gas
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: was just a little bit off.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: And it's right, and it's like it was intentional that
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: they needed to establish the characters and they you know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: pilots are usually not terribly exciting. It's pilots are hard
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: to do because they have to be entertaining, but you've
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: got to introduce the characters and you've got to establish
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: where the story's going. You've got to do that right
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: away in the pilot. So they're they're difficult, and this
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: was handled with such a deaf touch. Okay, So there's
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: there's Anna the unaired stuff. There was stuff that was
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: filmed that was reshot. Suki and Dean are played by
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: different characters Talk Sports. Dean, as we have said, it
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: is cast to play Suki before Melissa McCarthy or contract
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: with mad TV prohibited her from accepting the role. Nathan
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  Speaker 1: Worthington was cast to play Dean before Jared Perlichi.
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  Speaker 4: Uh can imagine a Gilmore Girls without Jared Padilaki?
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  Speaker 1: Can you imagine.
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  Speaker 4: Or Melissa McCarthy.
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  Speaker 1: Or Sean Gunn Has anyone thought about how the title
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  Speaker 1: of Gilmour Girls includes Emily as well, not just Laura
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  Speaker 1: and Ry. But it's about the three generations of women.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that is where and especially how. The thing
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  Speaker 1: that impresses me most about Lauren is that is the
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  Speaker 1: heavy load that she had to carry every single episode
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  Speaker 1: because she's occupying every single world of that show. The
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  Speaker 1: parents world, Rory's world, It's a diner world, stars hollow world,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Patty's world, whoever taylored She's in every single world,
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  Speaker 1: establishing that she is the center of this show, which
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  Speaker 1: she is. Yet the show itself has no problem and
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  Speaker 1: no difficulty and it doesn't hurt. It enhances the show
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  Speaker 1: of placing Rory at the center of the show when
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  Speaker 1: that needs to happen. It's just it's so unique in
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  Speaker 1: that respect. Ah. And so what I'll say is my
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  Speaker 1: last comment on the the pilot episode, and I said
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  Speaker 1: this before I even saw this, uh, is that it
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  Speaker 1: is perfect. It is a perfect It is a perfect pilot.
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  Speaker 1: It's rare that you see something that's perfect. And I
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  Speaker 1: saw something last night that was perfect a film that
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  Speaker 1: I won't mention, but Sean, you know that feeling you
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  Speaker 1: get when you see something that is absolutely perfect. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't.
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  Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say it needed more Kirk,
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  Speaker 3: but but yeah, we'll go with perfect.
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  Speaker 4: Fun all right, so good, it's perfect. Nothing else needed
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  Speaker 4: to be added to this episode.
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  Speaker 5: But don't you don't you don't you think that was
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  Speaker 5: just a ploy by aiming that maybe they she wanted
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  Speaker 5: to give the pilot a feeling of that something's a
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  Speaker 5: little bit as missing here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then bring you in for the went down
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  Speaker 3: from there then and then so great. I actually agree
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  Speaker 3: with you, Scott. I do think that it was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, just watching it again, I was like, what
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  Speaker 3: a what a beautiful pilot. It really just has all
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  Speaker 3: of it. It lays it all out. It's there's no
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  Speaker 3: question why the network wanted to pick the show up
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  Speaker 3: and to see what do we have here?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 3: Right? You know what I mean, like this is we
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  Speaker 3: we've got something. Let's let's uh, let's take this and
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  Speaker 3: and and run with it. And yeah, and it really
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  Speaker 3: is you know it, you beat it into the ground.
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  Speaker 3: But it's a whole lot of talented people working together.
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  Speaker 4: And the one thing, now, having seen the whole series
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  Speaker 4: and the movies and all that stuff, everything was planted
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  Speaker 4: here and you didn't even know it yet. Everything was planted.
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  Speaker 4: And I love now that I've seen the whole series
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  Speaker 4: to see how this pilot is such a foundation for
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the series. Everything's here, everything.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Because you could go back and say, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't you know, previewed, or that wasn't teased in
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  Speaker 1: the pilot, Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, it was exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, What a great show, What a great way to
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  Speaker 1: start a series that lasted seven years, that probably could
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  Speaker 1: have still been going today given the loyalty of this
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  Speaker 1: fan base, which is just extraordinary. It's really you know,
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  Speaker 1: the fan base has always been an uncredited character of
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  Speaker 1: this show because you can feel their presence at every turn.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can tell you then from being a
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  Speaker 3: you know, I've been some of the biggest movies ever made,
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  Speaker 3: and people are like, what what do you get recognized
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  Speaker 3: for the most probably.
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  Speaker 1: Know, Sean, tell us what you're doing now?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm promoting Creature Commandos, which is this animated show
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  Speaker 3: I did with my brother James. And you know, as
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  Speaker 3: you know, I work with my brother when I can.
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  Speaker 3: He's he's awesome and and I love working with him
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  Speaker 3: in the same way that I love working with Amy.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you got a great writer. It's you know,
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  Speaker 3: follow the words right, and uh yeah, Creature Commandos is
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  Speaker 3: like super super cool. I have some other projects also
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  Speaker 3: that I'm I'm working on with him that I can't
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  Speaker 3: you know, I gotta be careful about how much.
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  Speaker 1: I yeah, but it's there's more big stuff. It's PC.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm writing a graphic novel which is crazy and
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  Speaker 3: uh and I'm really enjoying It's it's scary and as
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  Speaker 3: as you know, as an artist, it's like when you're
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  Speaker 3: doing something that scares you, it's probably good or at
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  Speaker 3: least a good idea to do it, you know, like, yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 3: see where it goes to challenge yourself. That's cool. I
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  Speaker 3: did some indie movies that are coming out next year,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm like plugging forward. Man, I'm still
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  Speaker 3: living the you know, still living the life. I still
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  Speaker 3: living and dying by my auditions and and working as
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  Speaker 3: much as possible. It's uh, it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we wish you the best. Thank you for your time.
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  Speaker 1: You know how busy you are. You've always been a
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  Speaker 1: great friend of the show. Absolute Uh, honored to know you, Bud.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you, Scott. I know anytime, like like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: I'll be back before you before you finish this, Like
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  Speaker 3: what we'll do this again?
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  Speaker 4: Which one do you want to come back for? Which
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  Speaker 4: episodes we'll run it back?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but ask your listeners which one
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  Speaker 3: they will.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's that's a good idea. We will love
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  Speaker 1: to have you back multiple times. Be well, best to
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  Speaker 1: your bride and uh, well we'll talk soon. Thanks shown gun, everybody, everybody,
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