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Speaker 2: people this week. He's got his big national address on
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Speaker 2: Thursday night and a couple of other big elements. Did
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Speaker 2: you see that the socialists just had their convention? It's
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got the interview threads on today. We're being
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Speaker 2: joined by Dr. Kevin Roberts over at the Heritage Foundation.
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Speaker 2: We'll chat with him. He's the president of the Heritage Foundation.
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Speaker 2: Kind of a big deal. We'll chat with him coming
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Speaker 2: up on the program today. Very excited to talk to
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Speaker 2: him about defunding the destructive child care industry. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that and so much more all ahead on this
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Speaker 2: edition of Vince. But first, I want to start with
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Speaker 2: some good news from Friday, because since last we spoke,
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Speaker 2: something very interesting and wonderful happened. We got a jobs report.
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Speaker 2: And the jobs report indicates that things are moving along
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Speaker 2: very nicely in the United States. You know, the media
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Speaker 2: is going to try and give you a lot of
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Speaker 2: doom and gloom all the time. I'm going to try
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Speaker 2: and tell you that something interesting is happening here. Take
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Speaker 2: a look at this. This is an Associated Press headline even.
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Speaker 2: August jobs report shows the United States added 162,000 jobs,
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Speaker 2: more than double economists' forecasts. Have you noticed this? The
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Speaker 2: economists always underappreciate the extent to which Trump is going
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Speaker 2: to improve the economy.
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Speaker 4: U.S.
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Speaker 2: Employers added 162,000 jobs in August, more than double the
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Speaker 2: forecasts by these pinhead economists, and signaling a sharp acceleration
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Speaker 2: from hiring in July to The unemployment rate held steady 4.1%
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Speaker 2: unchanged from the previous month. You know why it held steady?
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Speaker 2: The numbers are great, but you know why the unemployment
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Speaker 2: rate holds steady? Because more people re-entered the job market.
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Speaker 2: And so the unemployment rate held steady because more people
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Speaker 2: were like, wait a second, I'm going to get back
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Speaker 2: out there. I'm going to compete again. Hiring in August
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Speaker 2: was boosted by job gains in food services and bars,
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Speaker 2: as well as local government education. Those sectors added 59,000
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Speaker 2: and 42,000 jobs, respectively. Payroll gains in August more than
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Speaker 2: five times the monthly average for the last 12 months,
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Speaker 2: which is 31,000, according to the Labor Department. Here's a
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Speaker 2: quote from one economist. This is Heather Long at Navy
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Speaker 2: Federal Credit Union. She said, quote, what a wow jobs report.
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Speaker 2: The hiring rebound in education was expected as teachers head
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Speaker 2: back to work. But it was encouraging to see the
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Speaker 2: bounce back in hospitality as well, especially restaurants.
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Speaker 1: Restaurants.
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Speaker 2: You see, what does that tell you? I think I
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Speaker 2: think anybody can look at this and be like, OK,
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Speaker 2: I get it. What that tells you is people have
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Speaker 2: a little bit more money in their pocket.
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Speaker 4: They don't.
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Speaker 2: Have to eat at home because they can't afford to
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Speaker 2: go out anymore. They can step out a little bit,
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Speaker 2: a little bit of comfort zone, right? You can actually
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Speaker 2: go to a restaurant, get a meal, bring the family out.
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Speaker 2: That's a big deal. That's an improvement over where we were.
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Speaker 2: So now we're seeing hiring going up in the hospitality
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Speaker 2: industry in the United States. It's a very positive sign
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Speaker 2: for the direction of the economy. It's also just huge
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Speaker 2: that the president, under this president, that the economy just
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Speaker 2: put up double the expected jobs numbers So this is
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Speaker 2: a great message going into this week at this midterm convention.
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Speaker 2: And in fact, I spoke to my economist, E.J. Antoni,
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Speaker 2: the great E.J. Antoni, our in-house economist for this program
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Speaker 2: and for The Vint Show. And he's got a great
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Speaker 2: thread on X. You should follow him on X, by
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Speaker 2: the way. He's wonderful. He's real E.J. Antoni on X
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Speaker 2: because he's the real one. And he says the following,
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Speaker 2: full-time jobs are now at the highest level since March.
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Speaker 2: They've erased all of the losses from the last several months.
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Speaker 2: That's great. That's great. A lot of this job growth
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Speaker 2: is actually coming from full-time jobs, not part-time. For those
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Speaker 2: of you who've been paying very close attention to the
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Speaker 2: job market over time, you'll notice that like in the
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Speaker 2: Biden economy, the Biden economy for what it was, a
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Speaker 2: lot of the so-called jobs gains were actually in the
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Speaker 2: government sector and part-time jobs. And they were double counting jobs.
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Speaker 2: You see, the way the government was fudging the math
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Speaker 2: is they would double count, like a single person who
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Speaker 2: had two part-time jobs just to make ends meet and
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Speaker 2: feed their family, they would count them as two different
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Speaker 2: jobs in the economy. Well, it's just one person. They're
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Speaker 2: working multiple jobs just to get enough to get by.
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Speaker 2: So that's not a sign of health, is it? No,
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Speaker 2: it's not. And so for the first time in a
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Speaker 2: long time, suddenly full-time jobs are surging. Full-time jobs surged
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Speaker 2: by almost three quarters of a million in August, while
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Speaker 2: part-time jobs actually fell by a quarter million. Unlike much
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Speaker 2: of this year when all the net job growth was
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Speaker 2: coming from part-time work, we're now back to full-time jobs
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Speaker 2: fueling the increase. And he puts a helpful chart up
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Speaker 2: here on how we've got more full-time jobs being added,
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Speaker 2: fewer part-time jobs in the economy now in this jobs report.
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Speaker 2: Another piece here is that the federal workforce is shrinking dramatically.
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Speaker 2: We are down well over, let's see, we're down over 330,000
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Speaker 2: federal employees since the start of the Trump administration. So remember,
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Speaker 2: when President Trump comes into office in 2025, January of 2025,
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Speaker 2: so here's the number you see right here. Here's January 2025.
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Speaker 2: Right up here at the top of this arc is
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Speaker 2: where we were at. Now, they said It was actually
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Speaker 2: close to 3 million before. Now we've dropped by 330,000 employees.
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Speaker 2: So we've got more than 10% of the federal workforce
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Speaker 2: is gone. And the great news is that the private
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Speaker 2: sector is growing. And all of the job gains are
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Speaker 2: going to native-born Americans, not to foreigners. Do you see
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Speaker 2: the trends here? You see what's happening? Public sector shrinking,
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Speaker 2: the government sector shrinking, the private sector growing, part-time jobs
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Speaker 2: going down, full-time jobs going up, job gains going to
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Speaker 2: native-born Americans, net migration out of the country for the
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Speaker 2: first time since the 1930s, fewer foreigners are taking these jobs.
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Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, do you see what's happening? This is huge.
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Speaker 2: President Trump, if he's going to have an economic message
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Speaker 2: this week, it's going to be, hey, I locked in
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Speaker 2: your tax cuts. I added more tax cuts and the
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Speaker 2: economy is headed in a great direction. Now, are there
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Speaker 2: still things to conquer? Yeah, of course.
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Speaker 4: Of course.
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Speaker 2: Bringing fuel prices down is essential. Bringing the cost of
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Speaker 2: diesel down is a big one. Those of you who
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Speaker 2: are in the trucking industry, you'll know that diesel is
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Speaker 2: very expensive right now. Why is diesel so expensive? Well,
9:16
Speaker 2: one of the reasons is because the Ukrainians bombed a
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Speaker 2: bunch of the Russian oil refineries that are responsible for
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Speaker 2: producing a lot of the global diesel supply. That is
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Speaker 2: actually a reason for this. So diesel prices have been
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Speaker 2: driven up by especially the war between Russia and Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: There's no question about it, which is one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons why President Trump is one of the many reasons
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Speaker 2: President Trump is trying to resolve that war because of
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Speaker 2: the economic impacts it's having on all of us. in
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Speaker 2: addition to, and perhaps most importantly, the millions of lives
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Speaker 2: that have been expended as a result of that awful conflict.
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Speaker 2: And so that's a big deal. So are there more
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Speaker 2: things to conquer? Yeah, you're damn right there are. But
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Speaker 2: this is great news. Federal government jobs are at their
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Speaker 2: lowest level now in six decades, six decades. Construction is up.
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Speaker 2: It had its best year over year gain since March
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Speaker 2: of 2025. Manufacturing is up. It's its best performance since
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Speaker 2: July of 2023. The government is shedding jobs like crazy.
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Speaker 2: And here's one more for you. Here's some news about
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Speaker 2: what happened for college graduates. You ready for this? Because
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Speaker 2: there's no more student loan forgiveness nonsense, you know, where
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Speaker 2: you get stuck with the bill for somebody else going
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Speaker 2: to college. More college graduates are going back to work.
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Speaker 2: Employment among college graduates exploded in August. In a good way, exploded,
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Speaker 2: went up. Up 1.2 million month over month and set
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Speaker 2: a new record. Apparently graduates are getting the memo that
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Speaker 2: their student loans will not be forgiven and actually have
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Speaker 2: to be repaid. A great motivator for finding a job.
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Speaker 2: I will take it. Ladies and gentlemen, I will take it.
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Speaker 2: I will take it. I will take it. That's the
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Speaker 2: right thing. Let's keep that trend going. All we're asking
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Speaker 2: for is more. All we're asking for. All we're asking
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Speaker 2: for is more. So the president of the United States
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Speaker 2: was celebrating this on Friday. He was very excited about this, too.
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Speaker 2: He posted to Truth Social. Ever heard of it? It's great.
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Speaker 2: He wrote, great jobs numbers just announced, breaking all estimates,
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Speaker 2: except for mine, by double and triple. And you haven't
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Speaker 2: seen anything yet, he writes. Employers added 162,000 jobs in August.
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Speaker 2: And then he called on the Fed to lower the
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Speaker 2: interest rate. He said, it's time to lower the rates.
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Speaker 2: We got to lower the rates. Of course, here's the thing.
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Speaker 2: You know, the Fed, we'll see what the Fed does.
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Speaker 2: But typically, a good jobs report does not lead to
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Speaker 2: lower rates. The Fed is often looking for bad jobs
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Speaker 2: reports as a predicate to lowering rates. Because their view
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Speaker 2: is that more people are suffering and the less they're
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Speaker 2: collecting paychecks, then we can lower rates. That's usually the
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Speaker 2: way they operate. We'll see what they do under Kevin Warsh.
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Speaker 2: But President Trump, encouraging them to do that very, very thing.
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Speaker 2: I've got some election integrity news for you today I
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Speaker 2: want to share as well. We've got some things to
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Speaker 2: talk about. Here's the thing. Mail-in ballots, you know this
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Speaker 2: mail-in ballot fight that we've had? President Trump is trying
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Speaker 2: to make sure that only American citizens can mail in ballots.
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Speaker 2: That sounds sensible. That sounds very sensible. Only American citizens
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Speaker 2: should be allowed to mail in their ballots. The president
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Speaker 2: made it so, hey, look, the Postal Service, you can
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Speaker 2: only handle the ballots of actual American citizens. The left
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Speaker 2: is fighting back against this because they love fraud. And
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Speaker 2: so now this fight has made its way all the
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Speaker 2: way to the United States Supreme Court. Going into last weekend,
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Speaker 2: I told you, President Trump was filing an emergency appeal
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Speaker 2: with the Supreme Court to take this up quickly. Have
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Speaker 2: they taken it up yet?
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Speaker 1: No.
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Speaker 2: No. Not yet. Not exactly. Here's what's going on. Because
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Speaker 2: of where this case emanated from in the country, a
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court justice has been assigned to handle it. And
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Speaker 2: I have bad news for you today. That justice is
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Speaker 2: Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: That's not great. Here's the New York Times with the report.
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Speaker 2: Trump administration again asks Supreme Court to allow mail voting restrictions.
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Speaker 2: to protect American citizens. That's actually what's going on. The
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Speaker 2: Trump administration asked the Supreme Court yet again Sunday to
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Speaker 2: allow its plans to restrict mail-in voting before the midterms,
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Speaker 2: setting up what likely will be the final legal showdown
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Speaker 2: for the president's push to impose these limits on mail
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Speaker 2: voting in the weeks before the midterm elections, again, to
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Speaker 2: protect American citizens. Justice Katonji Brown Jackson, who handles emergency
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Speaker 2: applications from the region of the country where the case originated,
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Speaker 2: set a schedule that signaled the court would handle it
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Speaker 2: on a swift, but not immediate timeline. Justice Jackson called
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Speaker 2: for responses from the groups challenging the Trump administration rules
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Speaker 2: by Wednesday at 4 p.m. So she's dragging ass a
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Speaker 2: little bit here. She's saying, okay, you have until Wednesday
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Speaker 2: at 4 p.m. to get your arguments in. She made
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Speaker 2: no mention of the administration's request that the justices allow
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Speaker 2: the Postal Service rules to go into effect while they
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Speaker 2: consider the case. That means at least for now, the
14:19
Speaker 2: administration is blocked from putting its plan into action. Now,
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Speaker 2: time is of the essence here, ladies and gentlemen. Time
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Speaker 2: is of the essence because these states are in the
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Speaker 2: process of beginning to distribute these mail-in ballots. And all
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Speaker 2: we're asking for is that the rules are followed. And
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Speaker 2: if Katonji Brown Jackson won't get off her ass and
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Speaker 2: actually get this done quickly, that could mean peril for
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Speaker 2: the credibility of the midterms. That's just the truth. And
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Speaker 2: I want to remind you of something. These Supreme Court justices,
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Speaker 2: these lefty justices, they will intentionally drag cases out in
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Speaker 2: order to cause chaos in the United States. We saw
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Speaker 2: this before. Do you remember? Perhaps you're thinking, you're like,
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Speaker 2: why do I feel like this is familiar? It's because
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Speaker 2: it happened in that Louisiana v. Calais case, in this
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Speaker 2: big case that was designed to strike down racialized districts.
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Speaker 2: The left loves creating racially bigoted districts for power. And
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Speaker 2: this Louisiana v. Calais decision comes through that knocks that down.
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Speaker 2: The dissent in the case, the justices who were in
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Speaker 2: the minority, of course, composed the Democrat justices on the court,
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Speaker 2: Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor, and Katanja Brown Jackson. They dragged
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Speaker 2: that case out as long as possible because they didn't
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Speaker 2: want states to have deracialized maps going into the election.
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Speaker 2: Remember this? This is from earlier this year. Here's Sean Spicer,
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Speaker 2: cut two, reporting on exactly what happened.
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Speaker 1: Watch.
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Speaker 3: By the way, total side note on that, just to
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Speaker 3: get on the record on this. I have been told
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Speaker 3: by reliable sources that that decision is done and that
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Speaker 3: the minority is slow walking the descent so that states
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Speaker 3: can't and states do not have time to redistrict ahead
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Speaker 3: of it. But I have been told very reliably that.
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Speaker 3: that the minority is slow walking that descent.
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Speaker 2: All right, wait, hold on a second, because I don't
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Speaker 2: think I've read that anywhere. That is news.
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Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so just three, two, one. Sean, is there some
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Speaker 2: politics being put in the Supreme Court?
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Speaker 3: Well, Dan, insiders that I've talked to insist that the
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Speaker 3: minority is slow walking the descent on the voting rights
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Speaker 3: case because they are trying to ensure that states won't
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Speaker 3: have enough time to redistrict ahead of the 2028 midterms.
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Speaker 2: Wow. Clip. Amazing, right? Amazing. But it's something to keep
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Speaker 2: an eye on. I instantly smelled this. I'm reading the
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Speaker 2: coverage of it. I'm like, wait, Katanja Brown Jackson's in charge.
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Speaker 2: She's not sprinting to get to the bottom of this. Boy,
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Speaker 2: this this sounds familiar. And it's the same. It's the
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Speaker 2: same thing. We've got a lot of this nonsense on
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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, by the way. Remember, the Dobbs decision
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Speaker 2: was leaked in order to create pressure on Supreme Court
17:12
Speaker 2: justices to change their positions before its release. A trans
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Speaker 2: dude tried to kill Justice Brett Kavanaugh over it as
17:22
Speaker 2: a result of that leak. Who leaked it? Who leaked it?
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Speaker 2: We never got an answer to that question. But it's
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Speaker 2: pretty obvious that there are meddlesome forces on the court
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Speaker 2: trying to upend our constitutional republic. We can't let it happen.
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Speaker 2: So that fight continues. Keep your eyes on that one
17:38
Speaker 2: as the president is looking to get some action on
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Speaker 2: protecting American ballots. It shouldn't be this hard. And yet
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Speaker 2: it is because the left's involved. One more item for you,
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Speaker 2: and then I'm going to get to the big debate
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Speaker 2: that raged online this weekend about whether or not President
17:56
Speaker 2: Trump and J.D. Vance can defund the corrupt childcare industry.
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Speaker 2: We'll also talk about that with Dr. Kevin Roberts. Let's
18:03
Speaker 2: focus on something that's really cool. You ready for a
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Speaker 2: cool story? Check this out. This is amazing. You know
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Speaker 2: that south of our border, the drug cartels are often
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Speaker 2: trying to send drugs into the United States with drones?
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Speaker 2: Familiar with this? The cartels have drones that they've been
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Speaker 2: flying across our border for all sorts of reasons, monitoring
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Speaker 2: drug shipments. That's going down. You know why it's stopping?
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Speaker 2: It's stopping? President Trump has been shooting them out of
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Speaker 2: the air with lasers. Yeah, you heard me correctly. I
18:39
Speaker 2: don't know if he personally has wielded a laser gun,
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Speaker 2: but I'd love to see video footage of that. Drone
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Speaker 2: activity at the U.S.-Mexico border has dropped 75% after the
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Speaker 2: United States uses laser weapon, military says. We're lasering cartel
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Speaker 2: aircraft out of the air. Dateline McAllen, Texas. Less than
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Speaker 2: two weeks after the military first used a high-energy laser
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Speaker 2: weapon system to down suspicious drones, military officials told CBS
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Speaker 2: there's been a roughly 75% decrease in the number of
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Speaker 2: drones probing the southern border in the Rio Grande Valley.
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Speaker 2: The system made its debut by taking down three drones
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Speaker 2: on August 25th and 26th after months of training, including
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Speaker 2: an episode that caused the FAA to briefly shut down
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Speaker 2: El Paso's airport earlier this year. Since then, military officials
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Speaker 2: told CBS News there is regular coordination with the FAA
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Speaker 2: to ensure that the laser does not pose a risk
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Speaker 2: to civilians.
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Speaker 4: The U.S.
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Speaker 2: Military already has tools that use jamming to send some
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Speaker 2: of the dozens of drones that appear daily back to
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Speaker 2: where they came from. But the laser gives the option
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Speaker 2: to bring a drone down if it's a suspected threat.
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Speaker 2: Bring them all down, by the way. Don't send any
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Speaker 2: of them back. Just bring them all down. You fly
19:57
Speaker 2: a drone across our border? Sorry, that's ours now. We
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20:17
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21:31
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21:41
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21:44
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23:03
Speaker 2: So let's talk about what Twitter, Twitter's a silly place,
23:06
Speaker 2: by the way, clearly. But let's talk about what Twitter
23:11
Speaker 2: was up to this weekend. This weekend we were watching
23:14
Speaker 2: as a debate was raging over the fact that the
23:18
Speaker 2: Trump administration is seeking to defund the poisonous childcare industry
23:23
Speaker 2: that has been taking taxpayer dollars created by a Democrat
23:27
Speaker 2: program in the 1990s in order to destroy stay-at-home parenting.
23:33
Speaker 2: You understand how this has been going. Back in 1990,
23:36
Speaker 2: the Democrats who ran Congress drafted a piece of legislation
23:41
Speaker 2: called the Child Care and Development Block Grant. And the
23:45
Speaker 2: way that it works is it gives out money in
23:49
Speaker 2: order to pay for childcare, in order to force both
23:53
Speaker 2: parents in any given household into the workforce. They've got
23:56
Speaker 2: to go to work. You don't stay home to raise
23:59
Speaker 2: the child. And then the federal government will step in
24:01
Speaker 2: and pay for childcare.
24:03
Speaker 7: You see?
24:04
Speaker 2: So the government created an incentive not to have stay-at-home mothers.
24:09
Speaker 2: And it worked. It worked beautifully, if that was your goal.
24:13
Speaker 2: If your goal was to drive all the mothers out
24:15
Speaker 2: of the house, well, a lot of that has happened.
24:17
Speaker 2: The government has, of course, over the years, spent a
24:21
Speaker 2: lot of time destroying the traditional family by creating programs
24:25
Speaker 2: that were designed explicitly to do that. Don't believe me?
24:28
Speaker 2: Ask black America what happened since the 1960s. There's a
24:32
Speaker 2: reason why black family formation has fallen off of the cliff.
24:37
Speaker 2: And the reason for that, of course, is the Great
24:39
Speaker 2: Society programs of Lyndon Johnson. Just ask Thomas Sowell, who's
24:43
Speaker 2: an expert on the subject, and go watch every Thomas
24:46
Speaker 2: Sowell video ever created on the subject. It's amazing. When
24:50
Speaker 2: the government incentivizes the destruction of the family, the family
24:53
Speaker 2: is destroyed. And so we've watched that play out, in
24:57
Speaker 2: this case, since 1990, specifically with this program. And the
25:00
Speaker 2: Trump administration thinks, that's garbage. That shouldn't continue to happen.
25:05
Speaker 2: So what can the Trump administration do about this? I'm
25:09
Speaker 2: glad you asked. The president is limited by the Constitution.
25:13
Speaker 2: He can't just simply snap his fingers and make the
25:16
Speaker 2: program disappear. In fact, President Trump has tried to do
25:19
Speaker 2: this with a huge number of federal programs. He does
25:21
Speaker 2: want to snap his fingers. He does want to make
25:23
Speaker 2: destructive federal government programs disappear. But he can't. Why can't
25:28
Speaker 2: he do that? Well, because one, Congress makes the laws
25:31
Speaker 2: and allocates money. And two, by statute, the president has
25:36
Speaker 2: to spend the money that Congress allocates. Why is that?
25:39
Speaker 2: Because Richard Nixon attempted to save the American people money
25:43
Speaker 2: a long time ago. And when he did that, Congress recoiled.
25:47
Speaker 2: They said, oh, wait a second, you're not allowed to
25:49
Speaker 2: save people money. So they passed something called the Impoundment
25:52
Speaker 2: Control Act of 1974. The concept is really simple. If
25:56
Speaker 2: you want to save money, you need to request permission
25:59
Speaker 2: from Congress to do it. That's crazy. But it is
26:03
Speaker 2: the law. Remember the rescissions debate we had last year
26:05
Speaker 2: where President Trump was like, hey, I want to save
26:06
Speaker 2: a bunch of money. And then Congress was like, no,
26:09
Speaker 2: no saving money. And then you're like, how are we
26:11
Speaker 2: $ 40 trillion in debt? Because of that kind of garbage.
26:15
Speaker 2: So the options that are available to the president right
26:17
Speaker 2: now with this program is do we continue to destroy
26:21
Speaker 2: the American family or do we figure out a creative
26:24
Speaker 2: way to rescue it? And so he's going with the
26:26
Speaker 2: latter option. Here's the creative way to rescue it. Instead
26:29
Speaker 2: of sending all of this money to so-called child care providers,
26:34
Speaker 2: we're not actually providing actual beneficial child care. They're destroying kids.
26:38
Speaker 2: They're making them more anxious. They're making them have shorter
26:42
Speaker 2: attention spans. They're becoming just it's a total wreck, actually,
26:47
Speaker 2: what they're doing to these kids. Instead of doing that,
26:51
Speaker 2: the plan by the president of the United States is
26:52
Speaker 2: we're going to start incentivizing using this money, stay-at-home moms.
26:58
Speaker 6: Simple.
26:58
Speaker 2: We're just gonna send it directly to the stay-at-home moms.
27:01
Speaker 2: We'll cut them a check instead of destroying their children
27:04
Speaker 2: inside of this childcare that doesn't actually help them. In fact,
27:08
Speaker 2: if you're wondering where an idea like this would even
27:09
Speaker 2: come from, perhaps it would be worth looking back at
27:13
Speaker 2: two of the most high-profile people who work for President Trump,
27:17
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio and JD Vance. In fact, this idea It's
27:23
Speaker 2: so funny, you know, I'll tell you right up front,
27:25
Speaker 2: the reason that there's anybody on the right, not anybody,
27:28
Speaker 2: there are some people I think who are engaged in
27:30
Speaker 2: sincere policy debate. But a lot of what's going on
27:32
Speaker 2: right now is the media is framing this as this
27:34
Speaker 2: is J.D. Vance's idea. And so therefore, this is J.D.
27:38
Speaker 2: Vance's big offering ahead of a presidential run. And you're
27:42
Speaker 2: watching people who don't want J.D. Vance to become president
27:44
Speaker 2: instantly coming out and attacking this and accusing him of
27:47
Speaker 2: being some sort of socialist for using this as the option.
27:51
Speaker 2: President Trump can't get rid of the spending. That's up
27:53
Speaker 2: to Congress. What are the chances Congress does this? Well,
27:58
Speaker 2: how about this? Have they passed election integrity yet? Have
28:01
Speaker 2: they passed the freaking Save America Act yet? No, we
28:04
Speaker 2: can't even get them off their asses to pass the
28:06
Speaker 2: bare minimum for election integrity. Vince, I'm going to need
28:09
Speaker 2: Congress to repeal the entire block grant program to the
28:13
Speaker 2: childcare industry. It's not going to happen quickly. It should happen,
28:17
Speaker 2: by the way. We should get rid of all this spending.
28:19
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
28:20
Speaker 2: We're $ 40 trillion freaking dollars in debt. But insofar as
28:23
Speaker 2: the president has any options whatsoever right now, what is
28:26
Speaker 2: he going to do? Defund that destructive industry. So let
28:30
Speaker 2: me go back for a moment to Marco Rubio. This
28:34
Speaker 2: idea is not new. In fact, smart, America-loving people have
28:39
Speaker 2: been contemplating this for a while. Here's Marco Rubio. This
28:43
Speaker 2: is back in 2024. I still have the press release
28:46
Speaker 2: sitting in my inbox. This is Senator Rubio. Rubio introduces
28:50
Speaker 2: bill promoting family-centered childcare. Oh, that's interesting. What is this?
28:54
Speaker 2: And I'll read it to you. This is Marco Rubio's office.
28:57
Speaker 2: During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Biden-Harris administration's Build Back Better
29:02
Speaker 2: agenda created a one-size-fits-all childcare solution that pushes both parents
29:06
Speaker 2: to work full-time and place their children in a third-party
29:09
Speaker 2: childcare facility. That sounds awful. It is awful. It's a
29:14
Speaker 2: misguided policy. It ignores the needs and wants of many families.
29:18
Speaker 2: So Secretary Rubio introduced the Respect Parents' Child Care Choices Act.
29:23
Speaker 2: Here's what the legislation would do. Are you ready? This
29:26
Speaker 2: is the big scary thing. This is socialism. It would
29:29
Speaker 2: support families who raise their children at home. It would
29:35
Speaker 2: eliminate marriage penalties. It would empower relative caregivers. It would
29:40
Speaker 2: create and implement a 100% voucher system. Everything I'm reading
29:45
Speaker 2: to you is precisely what the Trump administration is doing
29:48
Speaker 2: right now. And yet this is being used online by
29:53
Speaker 2: people who are rooting against J.D. Vance merely as a
29:56
Speaker 2: weapon against him for any sort of presidential ambitions he
29:58
Speaker 2: might have. Now, Marco Rubio and JD Vance apparently are
30:02
Speaker 2: of one mind on this subject and a lot of
30:05
Speaker 2: other subjects. You wouldn't know that based on the ridiculous
30:09
Speaker 2: debates that play out on the internet, but JD Vance
30:11
Speaker 2: has been talking about this for a while, just like
30:12
Speaker 2: Marco Rubio. In fact, if you go back to last,
30:16
Speaker 2: let's see, two years ago now, 2024, here's JD Vance
30:20
Speaker 2: sitting on stage with the late great Charlie Kirk discussing
30:25
Speaker 2: how to rescue American families from the destruction.
30:27
Speaker 1: Of the left.
30:28
Speaker 2: Watch this. we do about lowering the cost of daycare?
30:31
Speaker 1: Hayden, obviously a working family, and it's very hard for
30:34
Speaker 1: working families to get by.
30:36
Speaker 2: How will we lower the cost of daycare?
30:38
Speaker 1: It's such an important question, Charlie. And I think one
30:39
Speaker 1: of the things that we can do is make it
30:42
Speaker 1: easier for family models to choose or for families to
30:44
Speaker 1: choose whatever.
30:45
Speaker 2: Model they want, right?
30:46
Speaker 1: So one of the ways that you might be able
30:48
Speaker 1: to relieve a little bit of pressure on people who
30:50
Speaker 1: are paying so much for daycare is make it so
30:53
Speaker 1: that maybe Like, grandma or grandpa wants to help out
30:56
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Or maybe there's an aunt or
30:58
Speaker 1: uncle that wants to help out a little bit more.
31:00
Speaker 1: If that happens, you relieve some of the pressure on
31:02
Speaker 1: all the resources that we're spending at daycare. Now, you
31:05
Speaker 1: talk about just daycare. Let's say you don't have somebody
31:07
Speaker 1: who can provide that extra set of hands.
31:10
Speaker 2: What we've got to do.
31:12
Speaker 1: is actually empower people to get trained in the skills
31:16
Speaker 1: that they need for the 21st century. We've got a
31:18
Speaker 1: lot of people who love kids, who would love to
31:21
Speaker 1: take care of kids, but they can't either because they
31:23
Speaker 1: don't have access to the education that they need or
31:26
Speaker 1: maybe more importantly because the state government says you're not
31:29
Speaker 1: allowed to take care of children unless you have some
31:32
Speaker 1: ridiculous certification that has nothing to do, nothing to do
31:35
Speaker 1: with taking care of kids. So empower people to get
31:38
Speaker 1: the skills they need. Don't force every early child care
31:41
Speaker 1: specialist to go and get a six-year college degree where
31:44
Speaker 1: they've got a whole lot of debt and Americans are
31:47
Speaker 1: much poorer because they're paying out the wazoo for daycare.
31:50
Speaker 1: Empower working families. Empower people who want to do these
31:53
Speaker 1: things for a living. And that's what we've got to do.
31:57
Speaker 2: And by the way, stay-at-home moms should not be subsidizing.
32:01
Speaker 2: the so-called childcare industry. What are we doing? Really? So
32:04
Speaker 2: dad goes to work, or mom goes to work for
32:06
Speaker 2: that matter, and you have a stay-at-home dad, and then
32:08
Speaker 2: that family has to subsidize sending some other kid to
32:11
Speaker 2: childcare while the two parents go to work, and then
32:13
Speaker 2: that kid's life is destroyed? One more thing on this subject,
32:17
Speaker 2: then I want to get to my great guest on it,
32:18
Speaker 2: because this has really got me going absolutely crazy.
32:22
Speaker 8: J.D.
32:22
Speaker 2: Vance wrote an op-ed about taking care of kids in 2021.
32:27
Speaker 2: He wrote it with a woman called Jeanette Erickson, He
32:30
Speaker 2: wrote it for the Wall Street Journal, and here it is.
32:31
Speaker 2: Biden's daycare plan is bad for families. This was J.D.
32:34
Speaker 2: Vance now a couple years ago. And in it, he
32:38
Speaker 2: writes about an experiment that took place in, where was it?
32:43
Speaker 2: In Quebec, I believe it was. Yeah, Quebec. Let me
32:46
Speaker 2: go back to this.
32:48
Speaker 5: Here we go.
32:49
Speaker 2: This idea that we send every kid in America to
32:52
Speaker 2: some sort of government-funded operation government-funded daycare operation. Here's what J.D.
32:59
Speaker 2: Vance wrote. In 1997, the provincial government of Quebec began
33:03
Speaker 2: offering childcare for five Canadian dollars a day to all families,
33:07
Speaker 2: regardless of income. Almost two decades later, economists Michael Baker,
33:11
Speaker 2: Kevin Milligan, and Jonathan Gruber found that children from two-parent
33:15
Speaker 2: families who participated showed significant increases in anxiety, aggression, and hyperactivity.
33:22
Speaker 2: Those effects persisted and even grew as they reached young adulthood.
33:27
Speaker 2: Self-reported health and life satisfaction decreased significantly. Boys who participated
33:32
Speaker 2: were more likely to commit crimes. It was, to put
33:37
Speaker 2: it bluntly, a disaster for Quebec's children. He goes on
33:42
Speaker 2: to say that there was a major longitudinal study that
33:46
Speaker 2: was done of children that spent time in non-familial care.
33:51
Speaker 2: The more likely they were engaged to aggressive, disobedient, or
33:55
Speaker 2: risky behavior. And obviously, you know, there's a value, an
34:01
Speaker 2: immense value in being raised by your actual parents. Data
34:06
Speaker 2: from a recent YouGov American Compass survey show that upper-class
34:09
Speaker 2: Americans are more likely to prefer, this is an elite thing,
34:11
Speaker 2: by the way, are more likely to prefer a work-family
34:14
Speaker 2: model in which two earners instead rely on childcare. Poor
34:18
Speaker 2: working-class and middle-class respondents, normal people, prefer a model with
34:23
Speaker 2: one parent working full-time and the other providing at-home childcare.
34:27
Speaker 2: Many families put their kids into childcare because they have to,
34:31
Speaker 2: but the clear majority of Americans say they want to
34:33
Speaker 2: spend more time with their kids. In fact, the highest
34:36
Speaker 2: quality standards for childcare promote exactly what happens in the
34:39
Speaker 2: average home. One adult in an active, stable, and encouraging
34:43
Speaker 2: relationship with two to three children. This standard is difficult
34:46
Speaker 2: to duplicate in institutional settings, especially on a large scale.
34:49
Speaker 2: Public policy should reflect what most parents want instead of
34:53
Speaker 2: doubling down on the model preferred by American elites. And
34:56
Speaker 2: that's the point. The establishment in Washington is not just
35:01
Speaker 2: content with the destruction of the American family. They designed
35:05
Speaker 2: a system to do that. President Trump has two options
35:08
Speaker 2: at his disposal right now. Keep destroying the family or
35:13
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35:16
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Speaker 2: Joining us now, Dr. Kevin Roberts, the president of the
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Speaker 1: Dr.
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Speaker 2: Roberts, as always, good to see you, sir. Thank you
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Speaker 4: Vince, you know the pleasure is mine. Thanks for everything
37:51
Speaker 4: you're doing to you know, restore some common sense to
37:54
Speaker 4: this great republic.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I am trying, thank you for that, and
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my head around the extent to
38:01
Speaker 2: which there's any good faith policy debate going on right now.
38:04
Speaker 2: But I, very simply, as I understand this block grant program,
38:09
Speaker 2: there's a limited pool of money. Right now it's being
38:12
Speaker 2: used to destroy American families. The Trump administration said, why
38:16
Speaker 2: don't we stop that and instead just direct the funding
38:18
Speaker 2: insofar as we have to spend it. We'll just give
38:20
Speaker 2: it to stay-at-home moms and dads for now. And that's
38:23
Speaker 2: designed to arrest the decline of the American family. What
38:27
Speaker 2: am I missing?
38:28
Speaker 4: You're not missing anything. And in fact, I think it's
38:30
Speaker 4: really important to start with the facts. This program is
38:33
Speaker 4: called the Child Care and Development Fund. It has an
38:35
Speaker 4: annual budget of about $ 12 billion. About 1.2 million American
38:40
Speaker 4: children are eligible. And what the vice president is saying,
38:43
Speaker 4: what the Trump administration is saying, is what then Senator
38:46
Speaker 4: Rubio was saying, as you mentioned in the previous segment.
38:49
Speaker 4: which is let's use an administrative rule, because Congress simply
38:53
Speaker 4: has proven itself unable, sort of feckless, to be able
38:56
Speaker 4: to change this, and help American families, help stay-at-home moms,
39:00
Speaker 4: and help children, as you cited in that Vance editorial
39:03
Speaker 4: from a few years ago, by saying that money can
39:06
Speaker 4: be used to be given to stay-at-home moms rather than
39:09
Speaker 4: to childcare providers. As you cited, Vance, there is a
39:13
Speaker 4: majority of Americans who are in this program who would
39:16
Speaker 4: prefer not to have to use childcare. For the vast
39:20
Speaker 4: majority of Americans who are poor, who are middle class,
39:23
Speaker 4: who have kids, who are income eligible for this program,
39:27
Speaker 4: we ought to make sure that policy reflects that. And
39:29
Speaker 4: to your point about there being some good faith arguments
39:32
Speaker 4: on the right, sure there are. I think about my
39:33
Speaker 4: friend Kent Lastman at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Kent's one
39:37
Speaker 4: of the most intellectually honest people that I know. To
39:40
Speaker 4: steel man his argument briefly, if I may, Vince, what
39:42
Speaker 4: he's saying is that We ought to just get rid
39:44
Speaker 4: of the program, period. Well, I'm not sure that I
39:46
Speaker 4: disagree with that, but the political reality is, that's the
39:49
Speaker 4: reality that the Heritage Foundation and Heritage Action exist in,
39:53
Speaker 4: is that Congress has been unable to do that for
39:56
Speaker 4: 60 years, since this kind of program was created in
39:59
Speaker 4: the 1960s. So until and unless we develop the political
40:03
Speaker 4: will to do that, let's improve it to help American families,
40:07
Speaker 4: something that I happen to know that Kent would agree with.
40:09
Speaker 2: They can't even pass photo ID.
40:12
Speaker 4: Exactly.
40:12
Speaker 2: I love these, like, people who are on the internet
40:14
Speaker 2: right now are like, like, are you serious right now?
40:16
Speaker 2: We should get rid of the program. Of course we
40:18
Speaker 2: should get rid of it. I don't, like, but we
40:21
Speaker 2: can't even get Congress to pass photo ID.
40:23
Speaker 4: Exactly. And it's, you know, the parallel would be some
40:26
Speaker 4: school choice efforts at the federal level, at the state level,
40:29
Speaker 4: where people would say, well, we can't do that because
40:32
Speaker 4: we're trying to get rid of the U.S. Department of Education. Well,
40:35
Speaker 4: you know, Heritage and I have been leading that fight
40:37
Speaker 4: for several years. In the meantime, until you actually do that,
40:40
Speaker 4: until you eliminate an agency like that, let's improve it
40:44
Speaker 4: for whom? For working class families, for middle class families,
40:47
Speaker 4: and for kids. And so the question that I ask myself,
40:50
Speaker 4: not towards someone who's intellectually honest, like my friend I
40:53
Speaker 4: just mentioned, but a couple of people who are terminally online,
40:56
Speaker 4: who are just looking for relevance, is since when do
40:59
Speaker 4: conservatives want to put families in the back seat? It's
41:04
Speaker 4: really important that we understand that the free market flows
41:07
Speaker 4: from what? It flows from healthy families. It flows, ironically,
41:12
Speaker 4: from the health of that institution. And so that also,
41:15
Speaker 4: if you start modeling this out over the next few decades,
41:17
Speaker 4: as we did in our family policy paper that we
41:20
Speaker 4: issued earlier this year, you know that there are tremendous
41:24
Speaker 4: benefits that redound to the American people if you have
41:27
Speaker 4: policy that emphasizes marriage and actually giving birth to children.
41:32
Speaker 2: Well, you know, and there's a reality to the fact that, like,
41:34
Speaker 2: when the government incentivizes things, when the government creates disincentives
41:38
Speaker 2: for them, they do have, it does have effects on
41:40
Speaker 2: the country. So, as I mentioned, Thomas Sowell has covered
41:42
Speaker 2: this throughout his entire career. The government incentivized the destruction
41:46
Speaker 2: of the American family, and what ensues, the destruction of
41:48
Speaker 2: the American family. You know, when, you know, in New York,
41:52
Speaker 2: when they jacked up taxes on cigarettes to ungodly numbers, like,
41:56
Speaker 2: cigarette smoking actually plummeted because people couldn't even afford to
41:59
Speaker 2: buy them There's like an impact that the government's role
42:04
Speaker 2: has on all of this. So insofar as this money
42:08
Speaker 2: has to be spent at all, because Congress has forced
42:10
Speaker 2: it to be spent literally by law, by statute, I
42:13
Speaker 2: don't understand why we should continue to fund the destruction
42:16
Speaker 2: of the American family and call that some sort of win.
42:19
Speaker 4: No, it's true. And if you think about our very
42:23
Speaker 4: mediocre marriage rates, you think about very unstable birth rates.
42:27
Speaker 4: The only alternative to having more children born in the
42:31
Speaker 4: United States, if you're an employer, is to bring in
42:34
Speaker 4: more immigrants. And the problem with that is, whether it's
42:37
Speaker 4: legal or illegal, is that when you reach this point
42:40
Speaker 4: that we have in this country where about 16 or
42:42
Speaker 4: 17 percent of our populace is foreign born, nothing against
42:46
Speaker 4: them as human persons, you know, obviously we're all created
42:49
Speaker 4: equally in the eyes of God, that socially, economically, culturally, politically,
42:54
Speaker 4: every time that we have hit that percentage, there is
42:56
Speaker 4: a real problem. The reason that's connected to this very
42:59
Speaker 4: specific policy dispute, Vince, is because ultimately that's what establishment
43:04
Speaker 4: Washington wants. They simply don't care about the American family.
43:08
Speaker 4: They simply don't care about stay at home moms. They
43:10
Speaker 4: would literally rather hire cheaper labor from other countries than
43:14
Speaker 4: see the next two generations of Americans actually grow. What
43:18
Speaker 4: we're saying at Heritage is we don't just disagree with you.
43:21
Speaker 4: We're going to call you out. Every single time you
43:25
Speaker 4: stand against the American family, how about the conservative movement
43:28
Speaker 4: for the rest of our lives actually prioritizes the American
43:32
Speaker 4: family over the altar of the free market and understand
43:35
Speaker 4: that it's the free market that flows from the family,
43:37
Speaker 4: not the opposite.
43:39
Speaker 2: I want to be, and I know you're interested in
43:41
Speaker 2: being blunt, I want to be very blunt about what
43:43
Speaker 2: this debate actually is because on the surface it looks
43:47
Speaker 2: like a policy debate. Fundamentally, it's not actually that. And
43:52
Speaker 2: I'll tell you why. Establishment Washington believes that after Trump
43:58
Speaker 2: is gone, that the sentiment that got him elected will
44:01
Speaker 2: also subside. That the American people will go back to
44:05
Speaker 2: sleep and that Establishment Washington will be able to get
44:08
Speaker 2: away with whatever enriches and empowers it. Donald Trump has
44:12
Speaker 2: been an absolute anomaly in our country. And the thought
44:18
Speaker 2: process is he's going away and So right now, a
44:22
Speaker 2: lot of the people who are upset about this, they're
44:25
Speaker 2: too weak to attack Trump himself. They know that he's
44:28
Speaker 2: got too much sway, too much power, that the American
44:30
Speaker 2: people like him, so they won't go after him directly.
44:34
Speaker 2: But they fear that J.D. Vance is going to continue
44:36
Speaker 2: to carry on Trump's legacy. And so they see an
44:39
Speaker 2: opportunity right now to try and hurt J.D. That's all
44:41
Speaker 2: this is. All of this nonsense that's going on online
44:45
Speaker 2: right now is literally designed to try and submarine J.D. Vance. Now,
44:50
Speaker 2: never mind the fact that Rubio has the same positions
44:52
Speaker 2: as you and I have been talking about, especially on
44:54
Speaker 2: this subject. And I actually think that a lot of
44:56
Speaker 2: the people who are rooting for Rubio over J.D. don't
44:59
Speaker 2: actually understand how different Rubio is now than he was, say,
45:04
Speaker 2: back when he was supporting amnesty with Lindsey Graham in
45:06
Speaker 2: 2010 or whatever year that was. Like he's that guy
45:09
Speaker 2: is a different human being right now. And I think
45:12
Speaker 2: that America would be in good hands. Candidly, I think
45:14
Speaker 2: America would be in good hands with either man as
45:15
Speaker 2: president of the United States. But I really think this
45:18
Speaker 2: is all just like freaking passive aggressive nonsense. Like people
45:22
Speaker 2: are just trying to use this as a vehicle to
45:24
Speaker 2: hurt J.D. Meanwhile, I'm looking at it going, this is
45:27
Speaker 2: actually a really sensible thing to do. You've been handed,
45:29
Speaker 2: you have to spend this money. Why don't you stop
45:32
Speaker 2: destroying the American family? This is not as complicated as
45:36
Speaker 2: everybody's pretending it is.
45:38
Speaker 4: No, and I tell you, I think, first of all,
45:39
Speaker 4: your diagnosis is exactly correct. I think the vice president,
45:42
Speaker 4: the secretary of state, both have done a tremendous job.
45:45
Speaker 4: And I think they, and I hope they both have
45:47
Speaker 4: very bright political futures because they're both great leaders. But
45:50
Speaker 4: for us at Heritage and Heritage Action Events, you know,
45:54
Speaker 4: our job is to call balls and strikes on policy.
45:57
Speaker 4: And the question that I would ask thoughtful friends on
46:00
Speaker 4: the right who maybe got caught up in a couple
46:02
Speaker 4: of terminally online people ginning up a dispute that really
46:07
Speaker 4: shouldn't be is why would we as conservatives not put
46:11
Speaker 4: the American family first in all of our priorities. I mean,
46:14
Speaker 4: that should always be true, but it's particularly true right
46:17
Speaker 4: now when this society is suffering from declining marriage and
46:21
Speaker 4: birth rates, as we covered in that landmark paper. And
46:23
Speaker 4: so I would just invite our friends across the center
46:26
Speaker 4: right to understand that this is a common sense proposed
46:29
Speaker 4: administrative rule. It's something that we conservatives believe in. Is
46:33
Speaker 4: there room for some legitimate debate about the future of
46:36
Speaker 4: this program existing? Of course there is. Heritage would be
46:39
Speaker 4: the first to say that. But right now, It's important
46:42
Speaker 4: that we not let the politics interfere with the policy.
46:45
Speaker 4: The zone that heritage exists in, you know, perhaps more
46:48
Speaker 4: than anyone else in Washington, D.C., is to say that
46:51
Speaker 4: this policy is excellent and we ought to go implement it.
46:54
Speaker 2: You know what? I'll tell you what, man. If this
46:56
Speaker 2: resulted in Washington getting us off its ass and repealing
46:59
Speaker 2: all of these destructive welfare programs, it would be such
47:01
Speaker 2: a great win. Like, imagine if this, like, was channeled
47:04
Speaker 2: into something healthy. Because we have $ 40 trillion in debt.
47:06
Speaker 2: You want to save American taxpayers a lot of money?
47:08
Speaker 2: You want to make life affordable for people? You want
47:10
Speaker 2: to make it so they can raise children in America
47:12
Speaker 2: and have stay-at-home parents? Get rid of our $ 40 trillion
47:15
Speaker 2: in debt. You do that, we are going to be
47:17
Speaker 2: crushing it. So, yes, if you're sincere about this, for
47:20
Speaker 2: all of you people who are attacking J.D. Vance and
47:22
Speaker 2: Donald Trump for this, then get off your asses and
47:25
Speaker 2: repeal all of these crazy government programs that have been
47:28
Speaker 2: destroying us. But I have a feeling they're not going
47:30
Speaker 2: to do that. That's not what this is about.
47:33
Speaker 4: I'm afraid you're right, my friend.
47:36
Speaker 2: You're the best. Thank you, Dr. Kevin Roberts. Appreciate you
47:38
Speaker 2: for coming on with me today.
47:39
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, man. Take care.
47:40
Speaker 1: All right, man.
47:41
Speaker 2: That was great. So anyway, this just... It's just, to me,
47:47
Speaker 2: it's the most obvious.
47:48
Speaker 6: Thing in the world.
47:48
Speaker 2: And I just want you to understand what's really going on. Everyone,
47:51
Speaker 2: it's so funny. Washington has these like fake debates where
47:53
Speaker 2: they like, you know, they'll engage in a debate that's
47:56
Speaker 2: not actually a debate. It's all subtext. It's all like, actually,
47:59
Speaker 2: I'm trying to push my guy and I'm trying to
48:01
Speaker 2: do it through some sort of like intellectual argument. That's
48:04
Speaker 2: all this is. It's always the same thing. We just
48:07
Speaker 2: cut through it. We just cut through it. All right.
48:10
Speaker 2: Let's see here. It is amazing, isn't it? You want
48:13
Speaker 2: to know about what the left is up to? So
48:15
Speaker 2: the right is engaged in policy debates and jockeying. The left,
48:20
Speaker 2: they've got full-blown lunatics. They just had a socialism conference.
48:28
Speaker 2: I swear to you, this is real. But I'm about
48:30
Speaker 2: to show you. All right, let me get you some
48:35
Speaker 2: of this. I want to pull this up because I've
48:37
Speaker 2: got the data on this thing. They had a socialism
48:39
Speaker 2: conference this past week. And what do they call it?
48:43
Speaker 2: Socialism 2026. And it was in Chicago. It just concluded
48:49
Speaker 2: in the Windy City. And here, I'm going to pull
48:52
Speaker 2: up the sessions that these idiots had, because it really
48:56
Speaker 2: is the craziest thing. Actually, I'll just read them to you.
48:59
Speaker 4: You ready?
48:59
Speaker 2: Here's some of the sessions that they had. They had sing, struggle, organize, movement, songs,
49:05
Speaker 2: political education, and collective power. They were singing. They were singing.
49:10
Speaker 2: I'm sure they were banging on flipped over buckets too.
49:14
Speaker 2: Here's another one. Why does capitalism suck and why does
49:17
Speaker 2: it fail? An introduction to Marxism economics. I mean, the
49:27
Speaker 2: single most destructive and constantly failing economic system, Marxism, socialism, communism,
49:35
Speaker 2: they say capitalism sucks and it fails. Of course, capitalism
49:38
Speaker 2: has been the single greatest vehicle for uplifting people out
49:42
Speaker 2: of poverty in world history. That doesn't come up in
49:45
Speaker 2: their conversations. It's a perfect inversion of the truth. Here's
49:49
Speaker 2: another one. The black path to socialism. Because we need
49:54
Speaker 2: to figure out a way to make more black people
49:56
Speaker 2: into socialists is the plan. Here's another one. Health fascism,
50:00
Speaker 2: body politics in the anti-state state. They have a whole
50:04
Speaker 2: series on, it's called Health Fascism. And that's where I
50:07
Speaker 2: want to dwell for a moment because This resulted in
50:10
Speaker 2: some of the funniest footage I've seen in a while.
50:13
Speaker 2: This is, again, if you don't laugh, you'll cry. This
50:16
Speaker 2: is at the Socialism 2026 Conference. A fella called Deshawn L. Harrison,
50:22
Speaker 2: he looks like he's carrying some extra LBs. And he
50:25
Speaker 2: was arguing that people who take GLP-1 drugs, like if
50:31
Speaker 2: you take GLP-1 drugs, that the drug itself is fascistic
50:36
Speaker 2: because it's designed to quote, genocide fat people, which I
50:40
Speaker 2: think means just help them lose weight. I think that's
50:42
Speaker 2: what he's trying to say. Cut four, watch this.
50:45
Speaker 6: The political deployment of GOP ones is fascistic, not because
50:49
Speaker 6: individuals take them, but because the conditions under which they
50:52
Speaker 6: become necessary are shaped by a world fixated on genociding
50:56
Speaker 6: fat people. This is a structural critique that asks what
51:00
Speaker 6: happens when the conditions produced by capitalism, by public health,
51:03
Speaker 6: by the state apparatus, and by anti-black desire, a line
51:07
Speaker 6: around a single bodily ideal that leaves little to no
51:11
Speaker 6: room for divergence and punishes any body that does. Whereas
51:17
Speaker 6: earlier diet drugs were often associated with vanity or addiction,
51:20
Speaker 6: GOP1s are positioned as responsible medicine, promising relief rather than restraint.
51:26
Speaker 6: But to understand why the deployment of GOP1s is fascistic
51:29
Speaker 6: requires turning to Frantz Fanon's account of black flesh under
51:32
Speaker 6: colonial surveillance.
51:39
Speaker 2: It's a black genocide. If people lose weight, it's a
51:42
Speaker 2: fat genocide. Oh, it's a fat genocide, excuse me. It's
51:45
Speaker 2: a fat genocide. If you lose weight, it's a genocide
51:49
Speaker 2: of fat people. Words have no meaning anymore, you know?
51:54
Speaker 2: This is like, if you tell somebody they were born
51:55
Speaker 2: in the correct body, it's a genocide of trans people.
51:59
Speaker 2: It's a trans genocide. What? If you tell, what? What
52:03
Speaker 2: are you?
52:04
Speaker 1: Genocide. Genocide.
52:05
Speaker 2: They're literally appropriating the language of death. They're appropriating the
52:09
Speaker 2: language of the Holocaust. They're like, they're trying to pretend
52:13
Speaker 2: like some sort of human rights violation is happening. If
52:15
Speaker 2: they end up getting healthier, if you end up cutting weight,
52:20
Speaker 2: it's good for you. And here you are discouraging it.
52:24
Speaker 2: It's an expression of fascism to get healthy. What? This
52:29
Speaker 2: can't be real. Are you serious? It's real. And by
52:34
Speaker 2: the way, for those of you watching on the video podcast,
52:36
Speaker 2: you saw that he's wearing a COVID mask, you know,
52:39
Speaker 2: which is, I think, the uniform of the fascistic state
52:43
Speaker 2: that he actually wants. I'm pretty sure that's the world
52:48
Speaker 2: he wants to build. All fealty to the government. Forced
52:52
Speaker 2: me to wear a COVID mask, daddy. But meanwhile, this continued.
52:56
Speaker 2: The healthcare fascism conversation at the Socialism Conference continued. In fact,
53:01
Speaker 2: one of the libs who was on the panel said that,
53:05
Speaker 2: you know, getting in shape and like being physically fit
53:09
Speaker 2: is something that the right is so much better at.
53:11
Speaker 2: We're never going to catch up with them. And she
53:14
Speaker 2: says that if you're in shape, you're a fascist. If
53:19
Speaker 2: you ever hit the bench, you're a fascist. And we're
53:22
Speaker 2: never going to catch up with the fascists, she says.
53:24
Speaker 2: We're going to lose in that game. Cut five.
53:25
Speaker 8: Watch.
53:26
Speaker 2: Have to give up.
53:28
Speaker 8: The fantasy of being fitter than the fascists. It's not
53:32
Speaker 8: just that it's cringe or strategically bad, though it is.
53:40
Speaker 8: I think it's also politically revealing. Fitness is a measure
53:45
Speaker 8: of relative disposability under capitalism. Our task is not to
53:50
Speaker 8: become less disposable, to become more useful to the ruling order.
53:55
Speaker 8: What we all need to be doing is rejecting disposability
53:59
Speaker 8: in all of its forms. The point is not to
54:03
Speaker 8: beat the fascists at their own game. It is not
54:07
Speaker 8: to lay a better claim on their own territory by
54:11
Speaker 8: being fitter, more eugenic. In fact, the more dysgenic, the better.
54:16
Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
54:19
Speaker 8: Revolution is not a contest between optimized and properly prepared bodies.
54:25
Speaker 8: That idea is fascist in and of itself and erases
54:30
Speaker 8: the history of left struggles around the world.
54:37
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, obviously it's mental illness too. So maybe
54:40
Speaker 2: I shouldn't laugh at all, but I can't help it.
54:42
Speaker 2: I'm just watching this. She's wearing a COVID mask saying that,
54:46
Speaker 2: you know what? It'd be better to be unhealthy. It's
54:49
Speaker 2: like we defeat the fascists by being unhealthy. We shouldn't
54:53
Speaker 2: even try and catch up with them. They're always going
54:55
Speaker 2: to be healthier than us, those fascists. Meanwhile, they're the
55:01
Speaker 2: people who are trying to build a world in which
55:04
Speaker 2: everybody is subservient to a totalitarian government. You want to
55:08
Speaker 2: talk about fascists? Hello?
55:11
Speaker 1: Hello?
55:11
Speaker 2: May as well call it a fascist conference. That's what
55:14
Speaker 2: they're trying to build. They get their little uniforms and everything,
55:16
Speaker 2: their little COVID masks. Here's another lady. I didn't realize
55:19
Speaker 2: every one of them. Josh, I forgot that every single
55:22
Speaker 2: one of these people was in COVID masks. It just
55:23
Speaker 2: washed over me. The insanity coming out of their mouths
55:26
Speaker 2: kind of concealed what was sitting on top of their mouths.
55:29
Speaker 2: But here's another one. Here's a socialist lady, communist lady
55:32
Speaker 2: in another COVID mask saying that if you try and
55:36
Speaker 2: overcome your own mental health problems, that's actually health fascism.
55:40
Speaker 2: to try and resolve a mental health crisis, it's health fascism. Yeah,
55:44
Speaker 2: let Lindsay Clancy murder her children. It's totally fine. If
55:47
Speaker 2: you stop her from doing that, that's health fascism. Cut, sex, watch.
55:51
Speaker 7: In lefty space, we can have this insidious, accidental, small
55:56
Speaker 7: bubbling up of health fascism when we talk about healing.
56:00
Speaker 7: And we say, OK, come together for a ritual of
56:03
Speaker 7: healing and care. And we have to be really careful
56:06
Speaker 7: about what healing actually means and what we're offering. And
56:09
Speaker 7: I found over and over again in space over time
56:13
Speaker 7: during Metro Surge that folks were not looking for healing.
56:16
Speaker 7: What they actually wanted was support and care together in
56:21
Speaker 7: ritual collectively, sitting with the cracks, sitting with the bones,
56:26
Speaker 7: sitting with the aftermath of the explosion, sitting there in
56:30
Speaker 7: the dark. together, not trying to get better, not trying
56:32
Speaker 7: to get past it, not even grieving if we weren't yet.
56:35
Speaker 2: Able to grieve.
56:36
Speaker 7: But sitting in the horror together. And that kind of
56:42
Speaker 7: like slowing down enough, slowing down enough together to not
56:48
Speaker 7: like be grasping at, desperately grasping at the world that
56:52
Speaker 7: we hoped would be emerging soon, but instead being here
56:56
Speaker 7: now with the broken pieces was a thing that, like
57:00
Speaker 7: a recurring theme and is still a recurring theme.
57:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, that ain't going to work. If you have a
57:09
Speaker 2: normal life and a normal functioning family, when you go
57:12
Speaker 2: through something traumatic, you help them over time to heal
57:16
Speaker 2: from it. That's the way it works. To get to
57:18
Speaker 2: a healthier place, to get to a place where they
57:21
Speaker 2: can go about their day-to-day again in a normal way,
57:24
Speaker 2: to find joy again, to be happy, to be productive.
57:28
Speaker 2: This is the way you look after your fellow human.
57:30
Speaker 2: You get them to a better place. That's not what
57:33
Speaker 2: she's for. She's for, I need to stay miserable. It's
57:36
Speaker 2: really important that I stay miserable. It powers me. My
57:38
Speaker 2: misery is my most important thing. I need to be
57:42
Speaker 2: a perpetual victim. I need to always be suffering. And
57:45
Speaker 2: like their sufferings, by the way, their sufferings are so ridiculous.
57:48
Speaker 2: They're so cartoonish. Like somebody, there was a microaggression. Somebody
57:51
Speaker 2: wasn't wearing a COVID mask. Somebody said I was born
57:53
Speaker 2: in the correct body. These are the kinds of suffering
57:56
Speaker 2: she's referring to. Not real things, like fake imagined mental
57:59
Speaker 2: illness things. And she doesn't want to get over them.
58:02
Speaker 2: If you try and get her to get over them,
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Speaker 2: You're a health fascist. So if helping people lose weight
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Speaker 2: and helping people become mentally healthy is genocidal and fascistic,
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Speaker 2: then I guess I'm a genocidal fascistic maniac. I think
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Speaker 2: it's good for people to get healthy. You're totally right.
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Speaker 2: NYR23 says these people need to find Jesus. You're totally right.
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Speaker 2: I don't think an invocation was actually a part of that.
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Speaker 2: that conference. I don't think anybody was praying to get started.
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Speaker 2: At least not to Jesus. That's not how that thing
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Speaker 2: started or ended for that matter. As always, I hope
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Speaker 2: you have a wonderful American day. We have a really
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Speaker 2: important week ahead. Ready for some programming notes? I've got
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Speaker 2: programming notes for you. Today on the big national radio show,
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Speaker 2: producer Jim takes the reins. Producer Jim's going to be
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Speaker 2: filling in for me today. He's got an epic show planned.
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Speaker 2: You can get your local radio listings at thevinshow.com all
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Speaker 2: across the fruited plain. Listen to producer Jim That's because
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Speaker 2: I will be en route to Dallas for our convention
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Speaker 2: this week, for the Republican National Convention. I'm going to
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Speaker 2: be doing live broadcasts from there, both the podcast as
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Speaker 2: well as the radio show will be right there in
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Speaker 2: Dallas for you with all of the coverage. We've got
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Speaker 2: some really epic things planned for you this week. So
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Speaker 2: please lock in with us. I think you're going to
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Speaker 2: really enjoy it. It's going to be it's going to
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Speaker 2: be great. And, of course, you can't miss Dan Bongino's
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Speaker 2: epic program, as always, 10 a.m. Eastern time, rumble.com slash Bongino.
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Speaker 2: Hayley Carania is wonderful. She's at noon Eastern, rumble.com slash Hayley.
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Speaker 2: Hayley with two Ys.
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Speaker 1: Why?
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Speaker 2: Because she is wonderful. I look forward to seeing Hayley.
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Speaker 2: She'll be in Dallas. And then the great Sean Farish
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Speaker 2: is on at 1 p.m. Eastern time. That's rumble.com slash Sean. S-H-A-W-N.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely killing it in the 1 p.m. time slot. on
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Speaker 2: Sean is just doing great. And as always, I appreciate you.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for being here with me. I promise more
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Speaker 2: epic shows this week, as always. And we'll have some
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Speaker 2: good conversations ahead. The Dan Bongino Show.
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are underestimating the Trump
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Speaker 5: effect in this midterm. You've heard it yourself. Act like
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Speaker 5: I'm on the ballot. Why is he saying that? You
1:00:22
Speaker 5: think he doesn't know what he's doing? That is the
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Speaker 5: X factor. Folks, elections are a math issue. That is it.
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Speaker 5: This is not a football game. If you vote, we
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Speaker 5: will win. It is not complicated.
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