Latest / For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast / #366 - For Azeroth!: “All We do is Win”
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- 0:00Hello and welcome to 4 Azeroth. I'm your host Sean.
- 0:04And today I am joined by two amazing Co hosts and I'm going
- 0:07to introduce them in whatever order I damn well feel like.
- 0:10And that is first up from beautiful Connecticut.
- 0:16Lex, is that that I get that I do the right thing.
- 0:20Yeah, yeah. OK.
- 0:22That's the state. I'm proud of you.
- 0:26Lex, how is the World of Warcraft treating you?
- 0:28That's really stressful. Yeah, it's hard.
- 0:31It's hard. This is why I make you guys do
- 0:34it. I I can't handle any stress.
- 0:37It's been good. I so I'm kind of hitting the
- 0:40pre, pre patch lull pretty hard right now.
- 0:44But I'm having a good time. I'm relaxed and I'm getting
- 0:47getting back into the flow of things.
- 0:48I'm getting into chainmail, which is fun.
- 0:50That's my new hobby of the moment.
- 0:54Does that mean you bought the bikini out of the traders post?
- 0:56No no I I although I am seeing all the like Reddit posts and
- 1:00like wondering if I could if how how it would actually feel to
- 1:04try to make a chainmail bikini. So unlikely to ever happen, but
- 1:08if it does, you guys will be the first to know.
- 1:10Perfect. Do you owe?
- 1:11Do you mean real chainmail? Like you're making chainmail at
- 1:14home? Yeah, well, so currently I'm
- 1:15just making cute little bracelets to I I think this is
- 1:19the thing that I'm allowed to talk about publicly.
- 1:21And there's like a group of people who trade like friendship
- 1:23bracelets at Philip BlizzCon. And so I decided to go hard mode
- 1:28and do little chainmail bracelets.
- 1:29We'll see if anyone wants them. It's fine if you guys don't, but
- 1:32I, yeah, Sean can have that totally.
- 1:36And it worst taste scenario and my friends.
- 1:39So I'm not getting like deep into like actual chainmail,
- 1:43chainmail at the moment other and I'm doing like basic weaves,
- 1:47but I do have dreams of getting deeper into it.
- 1:49I dabble in Larping and so having a skill that I could
- 1:53bring to LARPS like making chain now would be really really
- 1:56helpful in making me feel comfortable getting out there
- 1:58and doing things. Very cool.
- 2:00Not for me, but for listeners who don't know what LARP is,
- 2:02because I definitely totally know what LARP ING is.
- 2:04But could you just explain quickly before we introduce?
- 2:07I'm going to just say hi so he can talk, but then we're going
- 2:09to get him a proper direction. Manny's here too.
- 2:12Hi Manny, But don't tell us anything about your week yet.
- 2:15We're going to come to you properly, but I just don't want
- 2:16you to feel like you can't engage with this incredibly fun
- 2:20story we're getting from Lex on chainmail and Larping.
- 2:22So what was? Larping again.
- 2:23So Larping is live action role play.
- 2:25So it's basically like, think of like a Renfair but only a few
- 2:31people and there's a storyline or I guess think of just
- 2:33role-playing, but you're doing it live with like swords and
- 2:37magical things you throw at each other.
- 2:38I haven't done a ton of it. I've only ever cast LARP, which
- 2:42is basically when you're the NPC, right?
- 2:44So you go in and you have the other people who are directing
- 2:46it and need like enemies and little things to do.
- 2:49And like, you know, you're going to go like do this little event
- 2:51with these people and you're going to get kidnapped and
- 2:53things like that. So the players have something to
- 2:56flesh out the world. So I haven't really ever, I
- 3:00mean, I've, I've never, I really like casting LARP.
- 3:02I think developing a character and dealing with that feels very
- 3:05stressful for me. But showing up and being like,
- 3:08Hey, tell me where to go and what to do, That's really fun.
- 3:10And then you get to like be part of it and, and hang out and not
- 3:13have to dig into the, the characterization and everything.
- 3:17So that's my, I've only done a couple, but I do really, really
- 3:20like it. And frankly, the only thing
- 3:22keeping me from it is that there's not really anything
- 3:25close enough to me that it's easy to get to without needing
- 3:28like a dog sitter or something. Right.
- 3:32I think I've seen TikTok videos. Are they called reels or shorts
- 3:37or clips? I've seen videos, I've seen
- 3:38short videos. I think that is what you're
- 3:40talking about. And it was a guy walked up to
- 3:43like a bar and he had to put his hands in shackles.
- 3:46And then the bar maiden, I told him how bad he was while she
- 3:52poured the beer that he purchased down his throat.
- 3:54So you would be, you would be her.
- 3:57Is that right 'cause she would be an interest?
- 3:59That's basic grandfare stuff. Basic grand.
- 4:03OK, OK. Come on that.
- 4:04Happens all the time. OK, exciting stuff.
- 4:07I can't wait to hear more about Alexis, Journey into chainmail
- 4:10and Larping. This is fantastic.
- 4:12This show's taking a turn. But before we turn too fast and
- 4:16we get kicked off the air, Manny, how has the World of
- 4:19Warcraft been treating you today?
- 4:21I mean today I have not played the World of Warcraft people who
- 4:25are watching the YouTube video. Today I'm officially blind.
- 4:31Unfortunately I could not find my glasses.
- 4:35Spent the day looking for them. Made my work day extra long
- 4:39because it took longer to look at the screen when I was at the
- 4:42screen and I took frequent visits into other places to try
- 4:46and find these glasses. So I haven't played today, but I
- 4:53am still plotting along with the housing.
- 4:56Really have done a pretty good job setting up the basic plan
- 5:02and figuring out what I want to do for future expansions and
- 5:07then making some gold off of that.
- 5:08So everybody on my war band has at least half a million gold, if
- 5:13not like several million gold, which is nice.
- 5:17That was part of the goal of trying to like make some make
- 5:20some gold and the housing has helped with that be enjoying
- 5:24that but I just I can't put in the effort to like list every
- 5:28hour. We've got friend of the show
- 5:30Bega and those auction house goblins that are like healing it
- 5:34with housing because anybody who has seen what it takes to make
- 5:39some of these items, you know that it does require a lot.
- 5:43And so, yeah, you can end up selling some of these things for
- 5:4710s of thousands of gold a pop or like so smaller things for
- 5:52like 5K or so. It's a it's a nice little
- 5:54racket. Beyond that, yeah, I guess I'm
- 5:59with Lex. I'm in the bit of the flow down.
- 6:02I've done all the major goals. I've got the KSM.
- 6:06And a special shout out to you, Sean, who helped with Mr.
- 6:11Missile Dine online and helped him get his triple threat this
- 6:14past weekend. That was something that I, he
- 6:17wanted to do. And John came in and helped,
- 6:20helped and tanked for us and we got Missile Dine at that.
- 6:23So good for him. As for me, yeah, I'm waiting for
- 6:28next week and that's when all the changes happen.
- 6:31Yeah, big. We have a big, big week coming
- 6:33up. So this is our our last official
- 6:36week of midnight season 3. Anything that's on your bucket
- 6:41list to get done, this is it. You're in the end game now to
- 6:44quote Doctor Strange from a little movie called Avengers.
- 6:50Something something Infinity gauntlet war.
- 6:54I'm a big marvel fan. It shows.
- 6:56I also this week get a little housing, but just very little.
- 6:59We have our housing competition with our and our Guild and I had
- 7:02to go and take photos of my house to enter that competition.
- 7:07And that's really all I did in Warcraft this week other than
- 7:10tanking a couple dungeons for for Manny and my friend Corey.
- 7:14But housing is where it's at. Housing is where we're going to
- 7:15start. Our first story tonight.
- 7:17There was a massive interview that that broke the Internet
- 7:22into like she want to tell us what's the deal with housing?
- 7:26Yeah, so the deal with housing is it's not done.
- 7:29There's a lot more stuff going on.
- 7:31And they, the, the developers were saying that they're kind of
- 7:34at a point where, you know, there's so much excitement and
- 7:36there's so many new things that it feels like they're constantly
- 7:38getting new things on their plate.
- 7:40So just because they're not saying this is going to come
- 7:42right now doesn't mean they're not thinking of it, doesn't mean
- 7:44they don't want to. It's just that they do have to
- 7:47structure things, right? They have to give us things that
- 7:50come at at certain times. So in January 20th we're getting
- 7:55a bunch of new housing stuff with pre patch, one of which is
- 7:57going to be the neighborhood wide endeavors, which I'm really
- 7:59excited about. That was one thing that I always
- 8:01thought would be a cool way to bring the neighborhood together,
- 8:03which is basically the the the quests to get your neighborhood
- 8:07stuff. That was very helpful, I'm sure.
- 8:12But like these neighborhood wide things that you and your friends
- 8:14can all do when you all chip in and then when you chip in, you
- 8:16get cooler stuff and it scales based on how many people are in
- 8:19your neighborhoods. You don't have to worry about
- 8:21like, oh, nobody's doing anything.
- 8:23So I never got anything makes the fun.
- 8:25Hang out with your friends, do cool, fun things, enjoy
- 8:28yourself. They are, but they talked a
- 8:31bunch about a bunch of different things that they are working on.
- 8:34So the things that are coming relatively soon, like around 12
- 8:40point O or after like right after launch and things like
- 8:44that, they are going to be getting bigger media or they're
- 8:49hoping some bigger medium sized housing exteriors, more Night
- 8:54elf and blood Elf exteriors to join what we already have.
- 8:59They're going to be doing, there's going to be a ton of new
- 9:01decor dropping with Midnight's new raid.
- 9:03They're going to do bad luck protection with that.
- 9:05There's going to be guaranteed items for bosses that have
- 9:09decor. There's going to be new noun
- 9:12levels, so they're doing a ton of extra housing.
- 9:19Like I feel like I'm getting very into weeds.
- 9:23So we're going to stop just reading the article and we're
- 9:25going to talk about how's it because it's been really cool.
- 9:27They're going to do a lot of stuff.
- 9:28They're talking about doing interactive objects, which is
- 9:31something that in Final Fantasy they have a ton of.
- 9:33And I was really sad we didn't have more of an in World
- 9:35Warcraft. So you can like pick things up,
- 9:37you can read the books that you have, you can engage with stuff.
- 9:42And they also have big ideas that they're planning on sharing
- 9:47soon ish that they don't have a clear road map.
- 9:49They're going to give us a clear road map that they're really
- 9:51excited about. They are going to they promised
- 9:54us they're going to let their mounts and pets run around.
- 9:57That is I was saying in the the discord something I'm losing my
- 9:59mind about. We are going to be getting Guild
- 10:02halls. Is is on the plan Pretty soon
- 10:06you should be able to Co design or Co own houses with your
- 10:10besties. And we are.
- 10:14They're also like talking about things like basements and
- 10:17communal spaces, more events for the entire community.
- 10:20So basically the the TLDR is there's a lot, right?
- 10:24There's a lot of really fun things coming.
- 10:25They have a lot of thoughts, they have a lot of ideas.
- 10:28I'm wondering you 2, what are we most excited about?
- 10:31I have been very open about the fact what I'm most excited about
- 10:34is pets and I'm curious what we're all hyped about.
- 10:40I, I mean, I think Holly put it best in the articles where
- 10:45whenever they mentioned something, there's like 20 more
- 10:48questions that pop up. So it's just like, oh,
- 10:50basements. And it's like, oh, I could do
- 10:52like my upside down carazan in my own home sort of thing.
- 10:55So like everything they say sparks some sort of like wild
- 11:00rabbit hole that I, that I go down.
- 11:02But like the questions that sort of pop up or the immediate like,
- 11:08but if you do this, what happens here?
- 11:10Like they're talking about people owning a house in sort of
- 11:14a marriage thing. And it's like, well, what
- 11:15happens at the divorce, right? We're going to split that house
- 11:195050. And so in my head, I'm like, OK,
- 11:21you just like mirror everything. But some things get locked out
- 11:24if you don't personally have the achievement sort of thing.
- 11:28It. I guess because of that, what I
- 11:31am most excited for is a housing road map like because there's so
- 11:36many things that like I keep going like over if they put out
- 11:41just ahead of the launch of midnight or or so they put out
- 11:45the like, hey, our housing road map coming in this patch and
- 11:51this patch you we're going to add in this and scheduled for
- 11:54this. It's going to be that.
- 11:56That's that's what I would really like because then I can
- 11:58get a lot more things, even if it's not exactly what like I
- 12:01would put on the top of my list. The combined anticipation will
- 12:05be great. Yeah, it's exciting.
- 12:08It's really like the road map is huge pets also, as soon as they
- 12:12figure out collision, we're getting those pets.
- 12:14So that's I'm also very excited. I just want to walk into my
- 12:17house and have it just be full of animals, just like an
- 12:19absolute zoo. That's great.
- 12:22But I think something that that I noticed, there's two things
- 12:24that that that to me, they are the biggest like, hey, this is
- 12:27great #1 is how invested the team is from the top, like Ian's
- 12:31the top, from the top down all the way down.
- 12:34Everybody is like excited about housing.
- 12:38They're. They're in, they're buying in,
- 12:39they're loving what the community's doing and they're
- 12:43not saying no to requests. They're saying, let's see if we
- 12:47can. You know, people are we did.
- 12:49We saw with the floating houses. It wasn't that, no, we're going
- 12:52to Nix that. It was OK, let's make this
- 12:54legit. And that sort of open minded
- 12:57approach to housing to really, it really makes it feel like
- 12:59we're as a community building it alongside the dev team.
- 13:03And the second thing is they're the way that they're subtly
- 13:06solving problems before they become problems with the housing
- 13:10decor drops that you mentioned that have bad luck protection.
- 13:12They're personal route. So you're not rolling against
- 13:15this never ending sea of pugs or guildies who want seven of the
- 13:19item. You know, it's personal loot,
- 13:21you get it or you don't. So they're they're already
- 13:24heading off these potential issues.
- 13:26I'm really, really impressed with everything that they're
- 13:28doing. It's it's going to be a good
- 13:30time. Lex, when when pets come out
- 13:32will you quit raiding and will that be it?
- 13:33Oh, probably all I want to do is hang out with all my little
- 13:36baby. So I, I, I, I will become a pet
- 13:39collector at that moment just so that I can have more and more.
- 13:42They're going to have to put like I've actually I've as I say
- 13:44this, I'm sure they will put limits on the number of pets in
- 13:46your house, but yeah, that will be that will be my new life is
- 13:51pets and mounts. I I just I would like only
- 13:54animals as far as the eye can see my entire house.
- 13:57Lee dedicated to animals. I will be buying as much as I
- 14:00can so that I can build more room so I can put more animals
- 14:02in my house. Frankly, the dream of my actual
- 14:05life. But in my actual life I have to
- 14:06think about things like pet food, so.
- 14:10I mean they could. They could put pet food into the
- 14:14game as well, not so much as an upkeep thing Corona trigger a
- 14:18game I love, had this entire like little hidden system where
- 14:20if you didn't feed your cat throughout the game, it would
- 14:23run away at the very end of the game, and that was like one of
- 14:25the endings. You could have anyways separate
- 14:27thing if they put like little pet containers so that so that
- 14:32like pet would be attracted to that that position, that would
- 14:35be thumbs up in my book. I I would love that for your
- 14:38people who collect pets, but for me, I want like either armor,
- 14:45like the armor racks that they have in there.
- 14:47There are preset and there are particular items or they're
- 14:49empty. I would love like to be able to
- 14:52put weapons that I have claimed, like if I've got like taste of
- 14:56lash or I've, I've got like a wet.
- 14:58It doesn't even matter. It's a pitchfork that I like got
- 15:01and it means something to me. I want to put that up because
- 15:05that is the stuff that like makes the house mine versus like
- 15:09what I could gather around. So more personal investments and
- 15:13we can have armor sets on little dummies that we can throw up.
- 15:17Like I would change out half the stuff in my quote UN quote
- 15:20trophy room for that to be like, yeah, he's these are my favorite
- 15:24tear sets. And then Sean comes in, comes in
- 15:26and says, that's stupid. You don't look like you don't
- 15:29look like a proper warrior. And but he has his own stuff
- 15:32like that's to to me is great. Yeah, I love that.
- 15:34I've actually like both your ideas.
- 15:36So I'm going to steal somewhere in the middle.
- 15:37I want to be able to look at my pets on the weapon racks.
- 15:42Just have to have it like jump on and to just knock off the
- 15:45helm. Or have my weapons walking
- 15:48around my house. That would be nice, I mean they
- 15:51do have someone's enchanted weapons that could just like
- 15:54path around. Like that some of the changes
- 15:58are actually, so it's not just waiting for January 20th,
- 16:00January 20th is right around the corner.
- 16:02But we're also seeing some changes that they talked about
- 16:04in the article that are coming up that are already implemented
- 16:06now on the beta. A big one being the the changing
- 16:09of the circles for when you adjust items.
- 16:13So now they each have their own separate color, those rings so
- 16:16you know when which one it is you're looking at.
- 16:19So if you want to move horizontally or vertically or
- 16:21diagonally, they're now color code.
- 16:23I think it's like purple, green and a yellow.
- 16:26I wonder if it if there's a Is it red, green, blue?
- 16:30I thought it was red, green, blue.
- 16:31Anyways, doesn't matter, they're different colors.
- 16:33Clearly different colors, which is great.
- 16:36Yeah, it's good stuff. Good stuff.
- 16:38Anything else either of you would like to say about housing
- 16:40and how great it is? Oh yeah, like the stuff coming
- 16:44that's real soon. Is is real soon?
- 16:47If you are currently at the cap that's 5, you get experience
- 16:51that goes beyond the cap. So you might be halfway through
- 16:556 by the time the cap gets lifted.
- 16:59And at six from the data mining, that's when the medium plots are
- 17:03are supposed to show up. So all of this is right on
- 17:07horizon. This is not soon TM.
- 17:09This is soon Blink and it's already here kind of stuff.
- 17:12And I love that. I love that they are being so
- 17:16like energetic about it, like you said, Sean.
- 17:18Yeah, soon, soon. The article's great because it
- 17:21breaks down like actually soon, not really soon and then
- 17:25probably long. It's a really good read.
- 17:27The link, you can find the link in the show notes, which I don't
- 17:31know if they get posted on the podcast, but they're definitely
- 17:34in our Discord under the Show Notes channel at bit dot LY
- 17:37slash fast Discord. You can you can check those out
- 17:41get a link to the PC Gamer article which is really good
- 17:44stuff. Yeah, I will say this is a
- 17:45little bit of a side note, but I feel like after so many years of
- 17:48almost everything coming from Wowhead, I feel like we've been
- 17:50seeing either we're seeing more and more from PC Gamer or I'm
- 17:53just paying closer attention. And I kind of like the PC Gamer
- 17:58like more article narrative style.
- 18:00I think that it tends to be very well organized and make things a
- 18:03little bit very entertaining to read.
- 18:06So I've been enjoying PC Gamer. Shout out to you.
- 18:10Yeah, it's good to see different sources delivering the
- 18:13information, not all being 11 spot.
- 18:17Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. Cool.
- 18:20All right. We're going to move on.
- 18:21We're going to keep rolling. We got a lot to talk about today
- 18:23that we were rolling in today with like let's sort of
- 18:27manufacture some stuff to talk about.
- 18:29And then around noon my time, the floodgates opened and we got
- 18:33lots to talk about. This is a story though that is
- 18:35not new. This is a little classic tale.
- 18:39We're going to talk about how Classic got a shiny new back end
- 18:42this week. We don't normally report on
- 18:45classic here so bear with me because the reason I want to
- 18:48talk about this is because I believe it has further
- 18:51implications for retail down the road that I want to pitch to my
- 18:55my Co hosts here and see if they are feeling those same vibes.
- 18:59So Burning Crusade Classic Anniversary Edition went live
- 19:01this week and I think they have like a 24 hours of maintenance
- 19:04with a six hour extension, which in the great scheme of things,
- 19:08if your maintenance window is 24 hours, a six hour extension is
- 19:11not that bad because it's all relative.
- 19:14But yeah, so it was during this, just before this maintenance,
- 19:18because it was a long maintenance, it was coming out,
- 19:20people were like, why are you doing this?
- 19:21We've spun up Anniversary server so many times before.
- 19:26And Tom Ellis, who was one of the senior game producers for
- 19:30Classic, wrote a blog post breaking down why the
- 19:33maintenance was going to be 24 hours and talking with some of
- 19:36the back end changes that were coming with it.
- 19:38And these are the kind of posts I'm here for.
- 19:41And I'm not going to read the whole post.
- 19:42It's it's a long post. And he starts by saying there's
- 19:46no news in this post. This is just for people who are
- 19:49really nerdy and bored and want to know the why.
- 19:55Why are we having a 24 hour maintenance period?
- 19:58And the reason is because they fundamentally changed the way
- 20:03that they handle. The servers on classic servers
- 20:07so they were looking for different ways different
- 20:09solutions on how to spin up these new anniversary servers
- 20:12without destroying all the information that people had and
- 20:14trying to be as least invasive on the the players as well and
- 20:18they did find a solution and they they're calling it
- 20:22persistent in place. That's the name of the solution
- 20:25they're using. So it doesn't mean he said
- 20:27doesn't likely mean much at all to anyone, but they're they're
- 20:29in full sharing mode anyway. So currently data in World of
- 20:34Warcraft lives in three databases, the persistent
- 20:36database, which is your characters, guilds and items,
- 20:39the account database, which is account level things like
- 20:42achievements. And finally the regional
- 20:44database, which handles region wide things like token character
- 20:47numbers on the realms list, etcetera.
- 20:49On Tuesday, they copied all of our.
- 20:53So normally what they would do is because you can't have two
- 20:56versions of Warcraft living in the same environment.
- 20:59So they were trying to find a solution to that.
- 21:01And what they did on Tuesday is they completely, they took all
- 21:05of the data on the account and regional database and
- 21:09transitioned it to a new database called the environments
- 21:12database where both of those pieces of information live.
- 21:16And the persistent data is now that's where they're going to
- 21:20be. They're going to be bending some
- 21:21of the rules they've done for a long time with the persistent
- 21:23data. So the new realms on the new
- 21:26environment are using the old persistent data, which is your
- 21:29characters saved, your characters, guilds and items,
- 21:32and they're going to draw their information from the new
- 21:35environments database. So it lets them have different
- 21:41versions of World of Warcraft read and write to the same
- 21:44database, which up until now was not possible.
- 21:48They could not do that. Now I know what you're thinking,
- 21:52Shawn. This is a retail World of
- 21:55Warcraft news show. None of you play classic.
- 21:59One of you wasn't even born when Burnett Crusade came out.
- 22:02Why, man, It's Manny. Manny's very young.
- 22:05What? No glasses?
- 22:08No glasses? Manny, It looks like a little
- 22:10baby. And I feel bad.
- 22:12I feel like I was insensitive earlier because I am wearing
- 22:14glasses and I was cleaning them without thinking of how that may
- 22:17have made my friend who has lost his glasses feel Manny.
- 22:21I apologize if that hurt you. No.
- 22:23It's OK, Sean. In fact, this is the prettiest
- 22:25you've ever looked. Thank you.
- 22:28You meant that facetiously, but I'm taking it genuinely because
- 22:32I choose to. I will write my own narrative,
- 22:35Sir. So why are we talking about
- 22:38this? Why are we bringing up classic
- 22:40I, I want to pitch to you guys. Lex, Manny.
- 22:45Can I? Can I Can you just do a quick
- 22:46guess? You could, yeah.
- 22:48All right. What do you think I'm going to
- 22:50ask? Does this somehow mean that they
- 22:53have the new server database so that they could do cross region
- 22:57realms with this sort of ability?
- 22:59That's a great quote Manny. What an insightful question that
- 23:03is. We will.
- 23:04I like that. That is, I hadn't considered
- 23:07that allowing a the persistent database to to write to a new
- 23:14environments database that contains all regions that that
- 23:19might somehow open up the realm for a data center esque cross
- 23:23region game play much like in Final Fantasy 14.
- 23:25Lex, what do you think? Do you think Manny might be on
- 23:29to something here with this cross region?
- 23:31Well, the one thing I will say is if that's true, this does
- 23:34kind of put a little bit of a pin in.
- 23:37Not pin I can't think of. For a podcast host, not being
- 23:40able to think of words for an entire hour is not going to go.
- 23:43Great. We're going to get through it.
- 23:47It does kind of like deflate your like BlizzCon conversation
- 23:52you had with the dev where they told you to ask them about cross
- 23:54region come midnight, simply because it seems like this is a
- 23:57brand new thing. Like whatever they're doing is
- 24:00entirely new, according to this post at least assuming we
- 24:03believe this. And they didn't even know it was
- 24:05possible. And it seems like it was very
- 24:07much like, oh God, we have to get the, the China realms back
- 24:11up and we don't know how to do that.
- 24:13Oh Christ, oh Lord, oh goodness. Oh, gracious.
- 24:16Which makes me think that this is like if, if this is them
- 24:22opening the way to cross region. I, I, I think it very well could
- 24:27be, but that makes this actually kind of makes me think they
- 24:29weren't working on cross region, or at least what they're doing
- 24:32now is not what they were intending.
- 24:33But it seems like maybe you guys disagree.
- 24:35I I mean like. You're saying there's a chance?
- 24:41I'll say that timelines are fluid.
- 24:46You know, everything that happens in this world is now
- 24:49like a soup. Who knows what priorities they
- 24:53have and how things get shifted around.
- 24:55So even if they're like, yeah, ask me again in midnight, it
- 24:59could be that like, yeah, we're testing on something and we
- 25:02think it might be ready for midnight.
- 25:03And then the testing took longer.
- 25:05And so it's not it's not going to be ready for midnight.
- 25:07And they're like, hey, Classic is a safer environment to try
- 25:12this on because there are multiple versions of classic
- 25:15that can simulate simulate the the thing.
- 25:19But in general, regions aren't running different versions of
- 25:25the same game. They're they're the same thing.
- 25:28Like if you put them on the same server all you instead of
- 25:32rolling out maintenance in waves, you would just everybody
- 25:35would go down at the same time. You would have that it would
- 25:38basically be what all the race the world first people wanted
- 25:42worldwide simultaneous patches constantly.
- 25:45Like it would be more effort to put it into two different
- 25:49versions for no real gain in my opinion.
- 25:54So I don't think that this is exactly related, but them
- 26:01continuing to work on surgery infrastructure, continuing to
- 26:04improve their game on the back end, that's promising.
- 26:09And maybe at some point cross region will no longer be the
- 26:13impossibility that they said it was in the past.
- 26:17So I'll I'll take that as the good thing from this.
- 26:22I will continue to predict everything is a precursor to
- 26:26cross region gameplay until I am correct, and then I will point
- 26:30furiously at whichever prediction was right and say
- 26:34see, I knew it. It's.
- 26:37Coming tomorrow, it's coming tomorrow.
- 26:38Broken clock is right twice a day.
- 26:41That's right. That's right.
- 26:42It's we. We need.
- 26:43There's dozens of us. We need it.
- 26:46We want this. I want it too, like no joke,
- 26:49cross region would be amazing. I have lots of friends in
- 26:53Europe, I have people that I've raided with all over the world
- 26:58and I would love that. Tomorrow, yesterday, I just what
- 27:05I want and what I think is going to happen are two different
- 27:08things. Yeah, there's an old saying
- 27:11about putting things in your hands and putting wishes in the
- 27:14other hand and seeing which hand fills up first.
- 27:17I never really never really got that reference.
- 27:19Lex, I have a job for you that I would normally do poorly, but
- 27:25since I'm hosting, I'm Manny tonight, so you get to be Sean
- 27:28tonight, so you get to do this poorly.
- 27:32Oh yeah. So we want to take a little
- 27:34moment and thank all of our amazing patrons.
- 27:38One of the we want to specifically call out Corny, but
- 27:41we want to take all of our incredible patrons who help us.
- 27:43Did you? Just say corny.
- 27:45I said. No, I definitely heard Corning.
- 27:48OK, good, good. I heard Corning and I'm like,
- 27:50what? OK, I finally pronounce the name
- 27:53correct for the first time in my entire life, and Manny tries to
- 27:57gaslight me about saying it. Rock.
- 28:00Classic Manny. But Corning, Congrats, Thank you
- 28:05for being our amazing patron. We love you all so much.
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- 28:15that we produce, you can always pledge at our Patreon at
- 28:18patreon.com/faz. And I say it like an American.
- 28:23Make it a Patreon bonus that every week that we get a new
- 28:27patron. Like set it the first tier.
- 28:30Every time we get a new Patreon, we don't read the Patreon.
- 28:34We don't read the Patreon. Thank you.
- 28:36And I wonder if subscriptions go up.
- 28:39I feel like they might you. Think we can?
- 28:43You want us to not read their names out?
- 28:47I got to be honest, this is my favorite part of the show.
- 28:50This, this entire segment is my favorite part every week.
- 28:55Sometimes I don't even know what's going to come out of my
- 28:57mouth. Remember when you did whole
- 28:59stories and then we just kind of pretended that never existed?
- 29:03I love that. That was my favorite.
- 29:05That just vanished into the ether.
- 29:07It was only for new patrons, which we didn't have for a
- 29:10while. And then we got one.
- 29:12But I didn't know I, Manny was supposed to give me a heads up
- 29:14before recordings. Hey, we got a new patron.
- 29:17And then there was one week when we got a new patron and he
- 29:19didn't give me a heads up and I was on the spot and I was like,
- 29:22oh, I don't have anything for this.
- 29:25Yeah, it's all Manny's fault, playing Manny.
- 29:27Listen you, you made the job up yourself on the spot and then
- 29:31gave up on it when it proved to me that Manny was not going to
- 29:35do the work for you. It's true.
- 29:37It's true. Yeah, I would like to stick to.
- 29:39Your guns. I'm going to stick to my guns.
- 29:41Yeah, Corning, if you would like a story, you can send your
- 29:45complaints to bit dot LY slash faz discord in the new shiny
- 29:49Patreon hangout that you have access to.
- 29:52Feel free to come in and say GDI want my story?
- 29:57Or feel free to come in and say it's actually pronounced corny.
- 30:00Yeah, it's a corny. It actually could be Koro Nene.
- 30:04God, if I got it wrong you. Guys, Oh my goodness.
- 30:07I kind of want it to be koro Nene.
- 30:10No, no, very much not. Very much not.
- 30:13Oh, we've just gotten a notification Cornene has
- 30:15unsubscribed from the Patreon. Shall we, shall we get back to
- 30:20the news? Sorry.
- 30:21I mean, that's your job. My apologies.
- 30:23Yeah, I've got this. Relax.
- 30:24It's Manny. It's OK for us to.
- 30:25We're Peacocks. It'll let us fly.
- 30:28It's. We can't Peacocks fly.
- 30:30Are they like chickens? No, no, they can fly.
- 30:33Peacocks can fly. Yeah, Alexa's going to look that
- 30:36up. We're not going to move on.
- 30:37Alexa's doing that. We got some new affixes coming
- 30:40and some dungeon tuning, and it's very exciting.
- 30:44In a blog post today, Blizzard unveiled a new Mythic Plus affix
- 30:50and changes to the current Zalitath Bargains affix.
- 30:55So the new affix that we're getting starting in midnight is
- 30:58Lindormi's guidance. And I'm going to read this blue
- 31:01post because it's great. And it says in this week's beta
- 31:05build, we're introducing a new Mythic Plus affix designed to
- 31:08support players who are learning dungeon routing.
- 31:11Lindormi's Guidance When Midnight Season 1 begins, this
- 31:15affix will be in Mythic Plus levels two to five.
- 31:18While in Dormi's Guidance is active, certain non boss enemies
- 31:22will be afflicted with Temporal Sands, visually highlighting
- 31:25them and reducing their health and damage done by 5%.
- 31:29Defeating these marked enemies will fulfill 100% of the player
- 31:33forces count, providing a basic route through the dungeon.
- 31:37Additionally, the affix also prevents player deaths from
- 31:40reducing the timer. Our goal.
- 31:42This is the important part. Please listen to this part
- 31:45carefully. High end players.
- 31:49Our goal with Lindormi's guidance is to help players
- 31:54learn a reliable dungeon route while still getting comfortable
- 31:58with the seasonal dungeons. We also hope this affix makes it
- 32:01easier for groups to align on a route in the early myth in the
- 32:04early levels of Mythic Plus. These are not, I repeat, NOT
- 32:11intended to be optimal for higher end play.
- 32:15Instead, they're meant to serve as a foundation for groups
- 32:18learning the dungeons before pushing deeper into mythic plus.
- 32:21And then the changes. On top of that, they are
- 32:24shifting current Zaltath bargains which start at level 4,
- 32:28to level 5. So they will start at level 5.
- 32:30So the TLDR, enemies that are marked, they'll be group packs,
- 32:35have marked enemies throughout the dungeon.
- 32:36They do 5% less damage, have 5% less health, and if you just
- 32:41kill those enemies and follow that breadcrumb trail through
- 32:43the dungeon, you will hit 100% of your enemy forces count and
- 32:47you will complete the dungeon. And this is designed for
- 32:51learning and to make things better.
- 32:53Lex, I specifically want to ask you, as somebody who has dabbled
- 32:57with tanking in Mythic Plus, does this make tanking more
- 33:01enticing for you? Oh yeah, I'm probably going to
- 33:04tank next season. Like like genuinely this is
- 33:05everything that stressed me out about tanking and I think plus I
- 33:08now have a route. I also it sounds like like
- 33:10deaths are going to be less critical.
- 33:12So if I screw up the world with an end, people will yell at me
- 33:14less. This is a like genuine game.
- 33:17This is. Like.
- 33:19Night and day flipping how I feel about Mythic Plus.
- 33:21I have something more important to say.
- 33:22Peacocks barely fly. If we consider Peacocks flying,
- 33:26then we need to consider chickens flying too.
- 33:28Like they can also flap their stupid little wings and then get
- 33:32a little bit of, yeah, if I got really big blankets, I could
- 33:35probably get a little bit of lift.
- 33:36So OK, fine, Peacocks fly a little bit, but barely.
- 33:40Anyway, Manny, what do you think about Mythic Plus?
- 33:43I mean, I like it. There's nothing about this
- 33:47implementation that would that would be considered AL in a
- 33:53sterile, clean environment where World of Warcraft players don't
- 33:56exist. Unfortunately, this is being put
- 33:59into the game where World of Warcraft players do exist, and I
- 34:03cannot just imagine the clash where people are going to be
- 34:08following this around. Hey, 5% less HP and $0.05 less
- 34:13damage. These things are easier to kill
- 34:16and they will get you your your percentage.
- 34:18Why aren't we doing this? And there's there's going to be
- 34:20that guy who's being like pushing 6 and sevens and has
- 34:24been earned learning the offman road.
- 34:25And I'm so much better than these players.
- 34:27And it's going to be such a bad clash and I'm going to hate it.
- 34:29I'm going to hate it. Players are going to ruin this.
- 34:33I can I, I'm waiting for the local tournament where
- 34:38somebody's doing A2 to A to A4 plus and their trick is to like
- 34:43try and snap the ones with the Afixes into a.
- 34:47It's just the nightmare scenarios are just popping into
- 34:50my head and I know it's going to happen that that I think this is
- 34:53great for learning to tank. One of the big, big hurdles for
- 35:01tanking is that you have to learn the routing on top of like
- 35:04all of these enemies and what they do.
- 35:07This is 1 less thing off of the the tanks plate and that's
- 35:13great. This is great for pugs as well
- 35:15because yeah, go to that big one that's shining over there like
- 35:19that's let's do that. So All in all, I think this is
- 35:23great, but this is not the best thing that they put in this
- 35:27patch. Like good on them for adding
- 35:30this affix, but even better and I I love the community team, but
- 35:37whoever did the. The developer notes this week is
- 35:40still on Christmas vacation, apparently 'cause they skipped
- 35:44out on the fact that they have added a section for keystone
- 35:48dungeons into the Dungeon Guide, which shows what these affixes
- 35:54do, what the new affixes are are doing when Tyrannical comes into
- 35:58play, all of that. You don't have to go off to to a
- 36:01website. You don't have to listen to me
- 36:04tell you this week it's this and and this week it's this.
- 36:07It's in game now. That's wonderful for new
- 36:12players. I'm sure everybody who has been
- 36:15playing since Legion and has like made mythic plus their life
- 36:22has those tools, the method dungeon tools, the routing from
- 36:28like all the different sites radar IO has like their their
- 36:32weekly routes and they do different routes for like
- 36:35various levels as well. So all of that is still out
- 36:39there, but having this in game for people who just want to
- 36:42like, you know, dip their toes and don't want to get
- 36:44immediately told like, why didn't you look this up?
- 36:47And that's not the route they use in the MDI.
- 36:50Love it. Absolutely love it.
- 36:52So big thumbs up from me, even though I know the community is
- 36:55going to be absolute bastards about this.
- 36:58I two things obviously massive W this is a huge WI cannot wait
- 37:03till the season starts so that I can call bad tanks in higher
- 37:08keys Lynn Dormy tanks for doing bad roots.
- 37:14Oh, you're, oh, you're. No.
- 37:16I'm scared. You're a Lindormi tank.
- 37:18I get it. You're a Lindormi tank.
- 37:20OK. I'm not for the for legal
- 37:23reasons. It's a joke.
- 37:24I would. I mean, I will call my friends
- 37:26that, but I would never call real people that.
- 37:30Not that my friends aren't real people, it's just.
- 37:31That change my Twitter handle. I am now Lindormi tank Manny.
- 37:35Yeah, Lindormi tank. Manny, Always a Lindormi.
- 37:37How'd the key go? Well, we had a Lindormi tank, so
- 37:40you know. Could handle the extra 5% once
- 37:44it got removed. That's.
- 37:46Right, that's right. Yeah, those moms are all harder
- 37:48now. And the other thing is I would
- 37:51really, I don't think this is going to happen, but pie in the
- 37:55sky, I would like to see this marking of the packs, not with
- 38:02the remove the debuff on them, but just the marking of the
- 38:05packs. I would like to be able to using
- 38:07a tool like MDT Mythic Dungeon Tools where I set a route and I
- 38:12share it to the group and say, hey, this is the route we're
- 38:14doing. I would like for there to be a
- 38:15function where either in game or through that add on where I can
- 38:19then mark the packs I'm going to pull so that I can visually see
- 38:23what packs we're pulling next without having to memorize a map
- 38:25and have it on a second screen. And there's a lot like this is
- 38:29great for early tanks and new tanks, but it's still, life is
- 38:32still hard in these streets for old tanks.
- 38:35It's hard to hear for a pimp. So I definitely I'm a really big
- 38:39fan of the movie Hustle and flow.
- 38:40For anybody who's wondering where that line came from.
- 38:42I almost sang it to you like she does in the movie.
- 38:45But my I'm I have a bit of a scratchy throat and it wouldn't
- 38:48sound as good and I didn't think I could convince Lex to sing it.
- 38:51So I'm excited for this. This is this is AW.
- 38:56Both of my coasts are like why? I'm I'm just trying to, I don't
- 39:00know what this is and I I already googled the Peacocks so
- 39:03I can't Google another thing. You don't know, oh, Hustle and
- 39:06Flow was an Oscar winning movie with Terrence Howard and he is a
- 39:11pimp and he takes one of the girls that works for him and she
- 39:14becomes a a pop star and that's the song they sing.
- 39:18She sings. Anyway, it's amazing that song
- 39:20won an Oscar. Like I can't believe we're going
- 39:22to after the show. This is nobody in Warcraft wants
- 39:25to hear this. This is the kind of stuff I get
- 39:26comments on YouTube about where they're like, why are these guys
- 39:28talking about Hustle and Flow? Terrence Howard is a crack job
- 39:32anyway, It's he's just a flat earther isn't but not a big
- 39:36deal. But it's Manny wants me to move
- 39:39on. Big changes, big WS Manny.
- 39:43So we got more dev notes. It's been a wild, wild day
- 39:46today. We had a a very long lull with
- 39:48the Christmas break and the week after.
- 39:51Why don't you tell us about the dev notes today?
- 39:53Honestly, I just made that comment and now I'm going to do
- 39:57this so you know, forgive me. Poor devs.
- 40:00Oh yeah. You just called them out.
- 40:03But we got dev notes with the latest deployment and they said,
- 40:08hey, there's some things in here and there's some more stuff
- 40:11coming with the next deployment that we're not going to put in
- 40:13here. Kind of go back to my initial
- 40:16statement, but we did get a lot of major shifts in how they're
- 40:22doing something. So overall we're seeing tanks
- 40:25getting rained in. So Blood Decades, Vengeance,
- 40:30Demon Hunters, Prod Warriors, Guardians all got damaged buffs
- 40:34to bring them up. We saw prod paladins get some
- 40:37small damage reductions and the Apex talents got that shiny new
- 40:46way because like before it was just like the line on the side
- 40:49wasn't that interesting. Now it is a continuing single
- 40:55talent point that has the little pips on it so that you can see
- 40:58it see it increase as it goes as you put in the four points and
- 41:03that's that's quite great. There is AUI bug where the
- 41:09second point is apparently show having a tool tip error when you
- 41:13put in the fourth point, but again, they'll fix that with the
- 41:16deployment in the next one and that'll be good.
- 41:20Name plates have a more like a more forgiving clickable range,
- 41:26which is nice if you're clicking on the name plates.
- 41:29So you like get to that one that you need to interrupt.
- 41:32But there's still more to go and we're getting very low on time.
- 41:39I did not see any of these pointed out as being reflected
- 41:44in the lot the pre patch that we're getting next week.
- 41:49Which? All of these that are nameplate
- 41:54done that are tuning because some things are out of whack.
- 41:58I feel like they should kind of be be reflected in the pre
- 42:03patch, but pretty, pretty decent.
- 42:07I'm glad that they're continuing to work on it, that they're back
- 42:09at back at it and we're going through that.
- 42:13Previously though, we had talked about how when you're doing
- 42:17Mythic plus, that end of week reward would be scaling all the
- 42:21way up to 18 plus and you would get mythic pieces that would go
- 42:26beyond one out of six. That's not in this build.
- 42:30And now again, that was data mine.
- 42:32That wasn't something that they had talked about.
- 42:35So and when we say things are subject to change, this is what
- 42:37we mean. But that's accompanied with
- 42:40another change to Dells, where before in the current season of
- 42:46the War Within, you would be able to get 21 of the precious
- 42:51precious gilded crests to upgrade each week out of out of
- 42:57the Delves that has been locked behind the 4th level.
- 43:03Which means at first you're not going to get as many that that's
- 43:06going to slow down your gearing through delves.
- 43:10And when you take both these combined, it looks like they're
- 43:15trying to slow down the gearing that they had in the previous
- 43:18builds. The delve thing makes it a
- 43:22little bit slower than we have on live, but of course we didn't
- 43:24have the 18 plus end of vault on live.
- 43:28So that's not really a change from what you're doing.
- 43:30We'll see how this like comes out in in the wash, but what do
- 43:35you guys think? Do you feel like it was better
- 43:38supposedly last week when we'd be getting all this stuff if you
- 43:41could push far enough, or do you think it's better that they put
- 43:44a bit of the brakes on it? Sean, we'll go with you because
- 43:47like I think you only ever touched delves like that first
- 43:49week. I'm.
- 43:50Going to let Lex go for I will. I do have thoughts but Lex
- 43:53looked like she was ready to jump in.
- 43:54So I'm going to let Lex go first.
- 43:56Yeah, I guess I feel like delves are already one of the slower
- 44:00gearing phases, especially for the higher level stuff.
- 44:03And so nerfing them, it feels like I, I, I, I, I feel, and I
- 44:07think I've said something similar before.
- 44:09I, I feel like delves are for so many mythic plus sirs and
- 44:15Raiders, sort of a like side thing.
- 44:16They have to grind the the Blizzard team has a tendency to
- 44:20kind of approach delves with how how are we going to stale this
- 44:25for the people who use delves, the side thing they have to
- 44:27grind so that they kind of are like not able to just pump them.
- 44:31And I think that does the people who that hurts the most are the
- 44:34people who use delves because they want to play delves and
- 44:37they don't want to do mythic plus, which is why delves are
- 44:40supposed to exist. And this has been one of my
- 44:42ongoing frustrations with them where it it feels like delves
- 44:47are being tuned for non delvers and that's kind of how I feel
- 44:50about this. But also side question.
- 44:54Side question. Wait, wait, before you jump into
- 44:57the side question, I I got to refute your first point.
- 45:01If you're delves only, you're getting heroic track items.
- 45:03You're not getting mythic track items, which means you have to
- 45:06go all the way up to the last parts of the gearing track to
- 45:11actually even start using the gilded.
- 45:13You're going to be probably blocked by by getting through
- 45:21those first. Like let's say it's 6 out of 6,
- 45:23I believe it's the first four require the heroic level and
- 45:29then gilded is the last five out of six and six out of 6 didn't
- 45:33to push you. Wait, didn't they change that?
- 45:36So two things. First of all, don't I?
- 45:37I'm truly losing the mind. Aren't.
- 45:39Do you get mythic? You get the top level track from
- 45:43the vault though, right? Have I forgotten how delving
- 45:46gear works? No, if I could get mythic stuff
- 45:49dropping out of delves. It's.
- 45:52Especially. Not that you get mythic tracks
- 45:55FO to delves but there is. Let me drop this link for you
- 45:59guys in our discord chat. This is a breakdown.
- 46:02They changed the way gearing upgrades work for midnight and
- 46:06the intention I believe is that you get you only use the crests
- 46:10that drop from the content to upgrade those pieces.
- 46:13So I think your hero track all upgrades with the hero track OK
- 46:21rests. OK, that would make the gilded
- 46:24from delves even more useless for people who are just doing
- 46:28delves. Only.
- 46:29OK, well then maybe I'm just I'm forgetting how things work.
- 46:32So I forgot I I was not aware of that change but if it was online
- 46:35you still have we would still need to do it.
- 46:37If like they stick to this again things are are subject to change
- 46:41and I'm not staying on top of this then it becomes completely
- 46:44useless for delve only people to be sitting on gilded.
- 46:48Fairpoint. Fairpoint.
- 46:52Yeah, yeah, it is. So Hero has four tracks and they
- 46:57are all upgraded by Hero crests. So this doesn't actually if
- 47:02you're a Delve only player, this won't have any impact on you at
- 47:08all. Who cares, All is good.
- 47:12OK, but what was your question? I jumped in there just because I
- 47:15I wanted to talk about that. Oh, and it was even.
- 47:18I thought there was one thing I was doing right as a good player
- 47:20and now I'm suddenly thinking I'm wrong.
- 47:22Am I supposed to be clicking on name plates instead of tabbing
- 47:25through? Yes, especially if you're going
- 47:31to like, because if you tab through, you're going to be like
- 47:37tabbing and shift tabbing. I'll shift tab sometimes to go
- 47:41back to my previous target, but tapping you're, you're probably
- 47:45going to be tapping that thing a couple of times to get to the
- 47:48one that you actually want. And like, there's a six of them,
- 47:52no? What I I thought this was the
- 47:55one thing I was doing as a good player.
- 47:57I was like, OK, yeah, I keyboard turn.
- 47:59OK yeah, I do all this like dumb ridiculous stuff.
- 48:01I have insane add-ons. But the one thing I do like an
- 48:04actual World of Warcraft player is I don't click on names.
- 48:07I tab like an adult and turns out.
- 48:10Like that, especially in the early pool, I'll like click on
- 48:12the one that I want. I'll right Click to like set
- 48:15focus on the the one that I need to like interrupt.
- 48:18Like there's a lot of clicking on name plates.
- 48:22Lex, I'm going to say something that might sound toxic.
- 48:25I'm but it's not. It's.
- 48:28I mean this in jest. I'm not a good player.
- 48:30Yeah, that's no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm
- 48:32not. I'm not going to say it.
- 48:34Lex is the player that we lost Wigoris for.
- 48:41Wigoris give you a competitive advantage over the average
- 48:43player. But I didn't use Wigoris, Shawn.
- 48:51I didn't understand them. For legal reasons, it's a joke.
- 48:56Lex is my dear friend. I care about her very much.
- 49:00That was. Not no.
- 49:01I'm famously dumb. We can.
- 49:02We can all see. See, now maybe we're all saying
- 49:04it. I mean, I was vehemently
- 49:07agreeing with you on the Delve things, and then I remembered,
- 49:09wait, they changed that? Gilded crests do nothing for
- 49:12Delve. Yeah, So I would like to change
- 49:18my stance that I didn't say because I passed it to Lex and
- 49:21let Lex take the fall on this. I don't, I I think that change
- 49:26for Delves is fine. Now 3 1/2 minutes after you
- 49:32initially asked me how I felt, I flipped on that.
- 49:35But I do think that cutting back on the higher level keys being
- 49:41done, changing the myth track you're getting in your vault is
- 49:44not great. Like there should be something
- 49:47for those players that are doing the, you know, above 12 and
- 49:51below title. Like at this point they're
- 49:54literally just doing it for the fun.
- 49:56Yeah, just like the people who somehow go to like 20 twos and
- 50:0020 fives. Well, they're doing it for.
- 50:02Title right and don't get title or doing it for the love of the
- 50:06game to see how far they can go. No, they're doing it for for
- 50:09title. They get very sad and very angry
- 50:13when they don't get when those people who push to that height
- 50:16don't get title. They write Twitter tirades
- 50:20blaming key selling and resilient keys for the reason
- 50:23they couldn't get title. And then they make polls saying
- 50:26look at how bad resilient keys are.
- 50:28I didn't get title because resilient keys.
- 50:30Let these groups sell more of them.
- 50:32That's what those players too. They're not doing anything for
- 50:35the love of the game. If they don't get title, they're
- 50:36meaningless. Blah blah blah nuance blah blah
- 50:40blah. Not every one of them.
- 50:42Blah blah blah. Stop with the inflammatory
- 50:45comments. Anyways, Yeah, there are people
- 50:49who push beyond when they get rewarded because they want to go
- 50:55further. There are people, there are
- 50:58people who go just as far as the rewards because they feel
- 51:02anything less is making them suboptimal, whether that is
- 51:08because they're part of a rate team that they love and they
- 51:11really want to make sure that they are getting those eighteens
- 51:15done right. But before this, they would have
- 51:18just done twelves and stopped at it.
- 51:20And even though, hey, it's pure upside, you're getting this
- 51:23other thing, there is a social downside to that.
- 51:27So it is a give and take and the and the devs should consider
- 51:33that like maybe maybe you're Sean Wilson or maybe you're
- 51:39Manny Thomas, or maybe you're Lex Rance and Alexa will be here
- 51:44for. Manny just covered Doxx, right?
- 51:46Manny just covered doxing me on the he immediately you could for
- 51:49those of you watching the show, you could see a Manny
- 51:51immediately go. I just fucking Oh, I just shoot,
- 51:54I just doxed Sean. I'm going to dox myself so he
- 51:57doesn't get mad at me. And then he doxed himself and
- 51:59then he was like, well, now I've said two of us.
- 52:01I have to say Lex. He's like but I can't actually
- 52:03dox. Wait, Sean, you know as well as
- 52:07anyone else that my full guppy is Lex Rants.
- 52:11Lex T rants. Lex T rants.
- 52:14Lex Tiberius rants. That's right, right.
- 52:20And we have all been there where it's like, OK, what does the
- 52:27Guild require of me? What can I do to help the Guild
- 52:31And push ourselves to do that, whether we wanted to do the 10
- 52:37or the 12 or whatever, putting it, putting in the 18, we'll
- 52:41just shift it further and maybe we'll shift it beyond what we
- 52:46might otherwise do or otherwise consider fun.
- 52:49So there is a cost to that. And like, I think it it, it
- 52:55rewards those that are willing to push, but it also stresses
- 53:01those that feel they have to push.
- 53:05OK, All right. You've convinced me.
- 53:11Given that I've been titled, this isn't relevant to me
- 53:14because you know, I was going to be doing that high anyway.
- 53:18Yeah, but you don't push title until like you, you pushed it to
- 53:2118 first week because you're going to, you said you're going
- 53:24to do that even with this being rolled back.
- 53:26But you don't push title until they introduce like whatever
- 53:30confounded thing in the .5 patch.
- 53:32It gives you extra power and then put in turbo boost.
- 53:35So that's that's when the real season starts.
- 53:37I think that's garbage. Now who's being inflammatory?
- 53:41We don't know that there will be a Mcguffin in the .5 patch that
- 53:44gives us a power boost. Listen, listen, I will make a
- 53:51cupcake. Specifically whatever flavor
- 53:54cupcake you want, Sean. If there is no Mcguffin in the
- 54:00.5 patch, if they don't replace Turboboost with some other
- 54:04version of turbo nonsense, right?
- 54:07What if we get through the .5 patch and the .5 patch stands on
- 54:12itself instead of having whatever bullshit they want to
- 54:16do to force people to come back in?
- 54:18I will bake you a cupcake and I've never baked before in my
- 54:21life, so I'm going to learn to bake to do this.
- 54:23Well, and you're going to be a. Real hard one, because baking.
- 54:25One singular cupcake is like. Oh no, I'll bake.
- 54:27I'll bake a batch. No, you say 1.
- 54:29Manny. You did say one, yeah.
- 54:31One goes to Sean, one goes to Sean.
- 54:33But I'm not going to like buy a bunch of materials and not make
- 54:36a batch. You said you would bake a non.
- 54:38Cupcake. You would bake a cupcake?
- 54:40I don't know words work. Yes, I'll bake one.
- 54:43But like in order to bake multiple, you still have to bake
- 54:47one. OK.
- 54:50All right. So I'll send you a list of
- 54:55cupcakes that I'm interested in and you wish you could get
- 54:57started. Changes are happening, changes
- 55:04are coming. Big changes are coming on
- 55:06Tuesday, January 20th or 21st if you're in the EU, 22nd if you're
- 55:09in China and I think the 27th there's another region.
- 55:14Oh, I think China and Korea are on different resets.
- 55:19Anyway, lots of changes coming next week.
- 55:22Final warning remix ends on the 19th.
- 55:24It doesn't end on the 20th. The patch goes live on the 20th,
- 55:27but Legion remix ends on reset the day of the 19th.
- 55:32So Monday morning at 11 AM Eastern Standard Time remix
- 55:36ends. Get all your bronze spent before
- 55:39then. Do not delay, don't miss it.
- 55:41You'll be so sad if you do. Gang, we covered a lot of stuff
- 55:44today and we are hitting just about an hour.
- 55:47Not really because we had some time at the beginning.
- 55:49So we're hitting just about 53 minutes.
- 55:52The perfect The internationally known perfect podcast length 53
- 55:58ish minutes. Yeah.
- 56:00Which one are you now? Continuing to talk so that we go
- 56:03way past. That I'm not good at ending
- 56:05things. This is why I stay in
- 56:06relationships. Oh God help us all.
- 56:11Manny's ready. Manny's ready for it to end.
- 56:14All right, here we go, folks. Until next time, may all your
- 56:19hits be grits.