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Episode 61: Top 5 Clone Wars Moments that ALWAYS Make Us Cry · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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  Hello, there. It's time for most things
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  Kenobi. Hi everyone, welcome to another
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  episode of most things Kenobi. A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi
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  in all things Star Wars. I'm your host Leanne and I'm
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  your host Lauren and this week, oh, my another top five.
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  This one's sad, top, 5 of pain, top 5 of emotion, top, 5 of
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  feelings. I get really sad.
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  Making this list me too. Me, too.
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  I, I actually hate this list because it's so, So good, but
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  it's like, one of those things were like, they did these scenes
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  so beautifully, that they literally move us every single
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  time we watch and it sucks. It does.
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  This is our top five crying moments.
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  In the clone wars. In the Clone Wars, we're going
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  to go through each basically installment, or Trilogy or media
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  source of Star Wars, and do our top five like highly emotional
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  moments. But we start with Clone Wars
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  because that's what we love. Ya, and it has so many.
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  Any, I'm guaranteeing, we have the same list.
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  I think we're going to be pretty close.
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  I'm sure we have overlap. I'm just, I'm sure we do.
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  Yeah. And there's like, we talked
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  about before we started recording.
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  Is there really an order in how we rank these quote-unquote?
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  My criteria was only that this makes me cry every time,
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  correct. Same same as me, I couldn't
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  order them. I was trying to and I just
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  couldn't so there. These are just in my order of
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  like what came to me as I was making this list but Can't say
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  which is the most painful Earth, at least painful?
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  Because they're all yeah, painful.
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  Yeah. It would be unfair to say that
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  one is more painful than the other, because they're all
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  terrible. But I went kind of backwards, I
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  started with number one because I'm very secure in my number
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  one, very scared. My number two, and number three
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  could be interchanged, and four and five are just horrific, and
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  I don't even want to talk about them.
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  So I literally like I went backwards in like security, If
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  that makes any sense at all. Yes, I went back to words.
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  I went backwards through the seasons.
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  Oh excellent. I knew season seven fucking
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  killed me. So I just started there and work
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  my way back. Okay, well, perhaps you should
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  go first and then I'll just tell you if I if it's on my list
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  because season sevens on my list, it's number two,
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  seriously. It's like the whole fucking the
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  whole fucking season at least the Asks, Ark was just
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  excruciating. Correct.
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  The first, the first thing I have on here is season 7 episode
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  shattered, and it's the order 66 stuff between Rex and Ahsoka,
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  yes, terrible. But beautiful every time I say
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  terrible, I mean beautiful in that again fall.
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  Okay, yeah. So terrible means perfectly
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  done. Yes, it's terrible to the
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  emotional Strife. Yes, deeply painful, and moving,
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  and beautiful. And Very good will good with the
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  bad that sequence because you hear, like, a Sokka and mall are
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  hearing what's happening through the universe and it's awful and
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  then she goes in to see Rex and Rex.
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  Yeah, it drops his helmet and he's shaking and he turns your
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  teeth and tears in his eyes, he doesn't want to do it.
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  It's like we all kind of wondered after we saw the Clone
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  Wars knowing what happened with the order 66 like what was going
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  on, and they finally filled in the gaps with season.
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  Especially this moment with these two brand-new quote,
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  unquote, characters of Ahsoka, and Rex that we've come to love
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  so much, right? And now we see what happened on
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  their side of Order 66, and it's just heartbreaking.
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  Yeah, just Rex's reaction alone. And poor Ahsoka was confused at
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  first and questioning them in. Like what's, you know?
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  And he's like, I can't do it or, you know them.
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  Yeah, the look in his eyes and the strain and his voice it.
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  So, So so well done. And is trying to like save her
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  while he's resistant. Like while he's trying to kill
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  her at the same time because he's telling her to look up
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  fives. Like find fives is in for, as he
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  is like pulling the trigger to shoot her.
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  Oh, my God, it's it's so hard to to watch that.
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  I mean up until this moment will say, we've only had glimpses of
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  clones following the order, right, right.
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  And it seemed easy for them. The ones that we saw in Revenge,
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  Seth I should say and then we get to know the Clones very well
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  through clone wars and then we get to the end where we actually
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  have an emotional connection too many of them.
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  And we see basically for the first time how difficult it was
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  for the ones who were really loyal and they just couldn't
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  help the thing that was installed in them.
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  It was it's terrible to watch. It really is it again beautiful.
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  When it must give us like a like a fraction of the sense of what
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  the Jedi were feeling. Oh God.
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  God because like we all love the Clones, you could all of the
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  Clones and you have loyalty to the clones and you feel like
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  they have loyalty to you and then they turn on you and try to
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  kill you. I just like as an audience
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  member, it was hard. So imagine what the Jedi must
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  have been feeling, which is funny because they're not real
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  and this is a story but still, right?
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  This is pretend land. This is pretend world and we
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  live in it at least for 40 minutes once a week.
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  You, and I, yeah, exactly. At least.
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  Yeah. At least for season seven.
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  I just have the final shot. Basically, the dichotomy of
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  Ahsoka standing there, looking at the helmets.
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  Yeah that's on my list and then Vader standing there holding her
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  lightsabers like or her lightsaber or whatever the music
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  in that sequence. Literally I'm getting Goose
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  Bumps thinking about it not the music and the whole end of
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  season 7 is incredible but that stuff is like haunting and it's
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  very it's like so Be sorrowful and like it just literally the
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  thought of it gives me goosebumps because it's so good.
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  I'm going to bring up music in a lot of these because yes, some
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  of the things I remember from these scenes, are the music at
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  the moments where it's happening.
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  There's there's very little talking in a lot of these
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  scenes. It's all what, we're witnessing
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  plus, the music and the emotion behind it.
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  So it's true. Kevin kiner is fucking amazing
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  to the point where I have a playlist of Clone Wars music and
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  I can't listen to it because it makes me sad.
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  I'm the same. I'm the same.
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  There are a few pieces that I can listen to.
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  But for the most part when it comes on, it's like I'm gonna
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  cry. Yeah.
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  Because it's so good. It's just, it brings those
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  emotions. Right back the minute, you hear
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  the music, which we saw when we were at Comic-Con, they played
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  music for everybody. Kevin kiner was there at the
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  Clone Wars panel and they played some of the music and the
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  audience was just like sobbing. Yeah, because we all know what
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  that scene is, you know, very intense, very Very intense with
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  music. Yes, that whole sequence with
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  Ahsoka and Rec standing in front of this Mass grave.
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  Yeah. All the helmets lined up and she
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  looks at her lightsaber and drops it into the snow and then
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  Vader picks it up and then the more I or whatever that bird
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  goes by overhead while he's standing there.
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  Oh my God. It's so awful giving me
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  goosebumps just talking about it.
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  I know it was a beautifully woven end for the entire series.
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  I was really, really happy with But oh yeah, very moving.
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  That's my number two actually. Yeah, that's my my two and three
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  are like you. They're kind of like
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  interchangeable the thing that I kind of had forgotten.
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  It's like if Vader Vader comes and sees.
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  Like there's a there's helmets there and then he finds her
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  lightsaber. He must know that Ahsoka
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  survived. Someone did someone did.
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  Yeah. But since her lightsaber sitting
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  right there, you would assume, but like, like you said,
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  somebody survive this wreckage obviously.
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  It's kind of interesting. I wonder what he thought.
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  It's true. I'll clone following orders.
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  Wouldn't place the helmets in a burial scene like that.
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  Yeah, right. I don't think it would have to
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  be someone separated. You would think?
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  I don't know. That's a, that's a great
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  question. It just makes me wish.
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  We would have had some mentioning of Ahsoka between
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  Obi-Wan and Vader in the Kenobi Series.
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  Yeah, like solidify. I mean, we eventually get that
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  in Rebels, but it could have been the bridge to, you know.
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  What we witness and Rebels, because at this point, I'm
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  assuming I'll be one doesn't know Ahsoka, even survived.
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  Yeah. Me.
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  Neither my other one that like is tied into.
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  This is the same episode, but it's the scene where Ahsoka and
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  recs are standing. I don't know if it's the bridge
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  or wherever they're standing like, looking down at the hangar
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  Bay, and they realized that like there's no way out basically for
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  them. And Rex is kind of trying to
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  explain do Sokka. I like, it's you or them.
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  And she says like they may be willing to die but I am not the
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  one who's going to kill them and like she takes Rex's helmet off
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  of him crying. Oh God, that's a good one too.
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  That scene is so hard to watch. And again it's like when you
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  think of them from season one now compared to where they are
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  here. Yeah.
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  Oh God. You just hope that they like
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  stay connected for the rest of their lives because they've been
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  through so much together. Yeah, it's those.
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  To from beginning to end. I'd like to thank.
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  What is your third? One Satine dying.
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  Yeah. Where is that on your list?
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  That's my next one. Okay, good timing.
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  I can't watch that episode because I cry really hard.
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  Every time. What more is there to say?
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  I mean it's the horrific nests of the act itself of mall,
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  killing murdering Satine. That's one thing.
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  But it's the focus. Of the pain in Obi-Wan's eyes,
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  right? And the hand-holding.
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  And the way he's holding her limp body and the fact that mall
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  is just their gloating all over all of it and the music.
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  Again, the music is so painfully, beautiful during
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  this, not that they needed it to add to the, to evoke emotion,
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  but it's there anyway. I know that scene like slowly
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  devolves, like you can watch ob1 realize that this is way like he
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  is So out of control of the situation.
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  Yeah, that there's like nothing, he's going to be able to do to
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  stop it because to stop. It would require him to do
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  something. That is against who he is as a
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  person. So it's just like it creates
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  this Dynamic. That's so extra painful, because
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  Satine, wouldn't want him to give up, who he is to save her.
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  So, she just dies at least, she does knowing that Obi-Wan, like
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  stayed true to himself because, of course, the last thing she
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  would want is for him to, like, give up his Honor to protect her
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  because she's all about honor and pacifism and all that stuff.
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  Yes, yes, yes. I mean you can feel it building.
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  Hmm. You know it's coming.
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  That's why I think it's so effective.
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  It really is it just? You just know the first time I
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  ever saw it. I said there's no there's no
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  getting out of this. How is this going to play out?
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  When I think that's the other thing that makes it so painful
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  as they give you that false Escape.
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  Yeah, there were so close to getting out of there basically
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  here in the ship. Taking off.
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  There were there. It was just, I hate this whole
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  episode again, Beautiful episode.
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  But goddamn, they were so close. It's so painful and then and
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  then on top of it, Obi-Wan has to basically shelve his emotions
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  and go out and fight. Yep.
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  Which how many times have we seen him?
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  Do we've talked about it a million times on this show.
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  God, he is something else. It's the first time you see
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  granted. In my opinion it was very this
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  episode of super rushed and Like, he snaps back into being a
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  Jedi too fast for my comfort. I get it there, like, I
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  understand why they did it the way they did it but it's still
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  even. So the first time you see him
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  like he's so depressed. His just like kneeling on that
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  transport like and they like punch him to get him moving and
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  he like doesn't even react. It's like he doesn't care what's
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  happening to him right in that moment until Boca tan shows up
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  in like rescues him. But one of the few times, at
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  least in Clone Wars, you see that?
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  Yeah, that episode just fucking Tells me every time you watch
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  that episode you text me and say I can't get through this episode
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  without crying. I'll be like I'll just watch it
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  while I'm eating dinner real quick.
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  I just need to 20 minutes and then I'm like sitting there
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  sobbing into my plate every time.
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  I'm not kidding. She texts me and tells me this
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  very thing through. I'm sorry.
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  Why do we keep going back? Well, because it's a beautiful
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  show with beautiful writing, beautiful storytelling,
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  beautiful imagery. But damn, like always kind of
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  hope they're going to get away. Yeah, that's The other thing
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  like maybe they'll make it out this time they never do, they
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  never do. It's so sad.
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  I know I did a cinematography study of this on my blog a while
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  back. Yes the cinematography and this
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  episode is so good, but especially that sequence because
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  they keep cutting back between Satine and Obi-Wan and they have
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  like the exact same Expressions on their faces.
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  So you can see that they're like having the same experience and
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  they both realize that the same time that there's no Out of
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  this. How do they?
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  It's amazing that again, we're talking about an animated show.
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  Yeah, I know. I mean, there's a subtlety in a
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  human face, right? That you can communicate emotion
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  through but this is animation and they still manage to do it.
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  Yeah. Flawlessly.
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  Like when she touches his cheek and his eyes, like soften, I
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  just like can't fucking handle it.
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  I just realized good that I said flawlessly, which is you can't
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  say Flawless without Lawless. Oh, the Flawless episode, a new
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  episode episode about Obi-Wan is called the Flawless.
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  This is true. Yeah.
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  And they made him so dashingly, handsome, an entire episode.
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  The man do armor. Yeah.
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  So not only are you walking around the who's walking around
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  there watching this episode. No, no one.
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  But not only are you sitting there experiencing feelings of
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  being turned on you then are Yanked away from you.
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  Yes, brutal it's fucking brutally.
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  Thanks Mall. Yep, that was mine mine as well.
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  So we had the same one there. The next one.
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  I hate this, the Zillo Beast. That I don't even want to talk
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  about it. I can't handle.
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  I avoid that entire Arc. I do too because it's so
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  terrible. I hate animals.
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  In pain, hate it same. Same even animated ones.
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  It's see, I'm getting like the puke.
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  The dry heat feeling. Yeah.
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  So I'm treading with caution and if my mother's listening, you
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  could probably just skip ahead, five minutes.
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  Yeah, but like, I can't watch that.
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  I watched it one time and I skipped through half of so I
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  like haven't even seen the entire the entire thing.
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  It's not, it's not worth it snap know if you if you love animals
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  Like, I don't care if it's a dangerous to humans like you're
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  the ones who took it off of its own planet.
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  Yes, yes, it is. It is the zoo complex.
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  It's why I don't visit zoos. I don't visit SeaWorld.
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  I don't visit, I don't do that and then it's fine if you do.
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  But for me personally, I can't. Yeah, it's one thing if like
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  they've rescued an animal from the real if the rehabbing van.
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  Yeah. But like when some animal is
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  taken from the wild to be put in a cage, Asian display.
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  I can't hand. I don't want to talk about it.
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  Yeah, so we're just going to, we're just going to say Zillo,
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  Beast, and keep it pushing. Yeah, because I agree with that
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  100%. That's too much for me.
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  I think if anyone's watch the Clone Wars and knows the Zillo
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  Beast, we don't have to talk about.
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  We don't have to reiterate. Why is this one is sad painful.
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  Yeah, awful Etc. Even if an animal is dangerous,
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  like it's so innocent, like animals aren't premeditated the
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  way humans are, you know, they just do their instance, fucking
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  around? Yes, Shit.
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  Stop it. Yeah, stop.
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  It totally agree. Okay, I'll get off my platform.
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  So another one that I just have to add to this list and I think
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  you'll agree is 99 dying. I literally just got goosebumps.
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  That is one of the most upsetting moments in all, of
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  course it is. So I feel so strongly in my love
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  for 99, as As I think everyone does.
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  Yeah, he can do no wrong. He is lovely.
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  He did not die in vain. I love that they added him to
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  the complex of clones. Yeah.
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  Because I really, really loved the respect that the other
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  clones had for him. Yeah, he was so innocent and
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  naive which makes me want to cry talking about it the respect I
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  mean the honor that he gained from them in his passing just
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  the innocent do good. Golden Heart.
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  Yes. Dad.
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  God, I know this is a really difficult list.
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  I think you, and I watch that episode together when we were
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  hanging out last, sure did. And we were both just like, fuck
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  past the wise at their past, the one it was.
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  I was glad you were there with me yesterday.
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  Emotional support, buddy. Yeah.
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  Cause you need it for some of these.
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  A lot of these, a lot of these. Yeah, like the again.
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  He's Like running. He's like I'm like you I and
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  then he gets shot and the music and the slow motion.
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  It's like something out of a what is it, like full metal
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  jacket or something like that? One of those old Vietnam war
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  movies were just like for god, sakes my heart can't take it.
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  He just wanted to help. I know, and he did.
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  He just wanted to be one of his brothers.
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  Yeah. And I think he was, they
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  considered him a brother. They, they also didn't, they're
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  a little protective of them are like, you know, don't you don't
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  need to get in it. Like the rest of us are.
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  Yeah, but he wanted to, yeah, yeah, it may have come across
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  the wrong way, but I think it was well intended.
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  I mean the Clones are Dee Bradley Baker is the voice of
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  all of these individuals. Let's remind everybody.
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  It's one man. Know who's bringing emotion to
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  all these separate? Clones, what a genius actor.
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  But, man, I don't know. It's just and it was another
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  instance where I thought maybe he was going to make it.
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  I know, I know and it's the same again.
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  Every time you watch it you kind of like hope.
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  Yeah yeah I love and respect 99 so much.
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  Yeah yeah I think he taught everyone a lesson including
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  Watch that episode which is why 99 lives on forever.
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  Okay. So we're down to the last one.
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  I'm dying to know what yours is because neither of us have
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  mentioned it yet. I bet it's the same one.
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  Maybe I would. I would bet some money that we
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  have the same one that it's the wrong.
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  Jedi. Yes.
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  Yeah, Ahsoka leaving. Yeah.
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  In other words. Yep, that's my number.
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  Oh, space. Twin moment yet again.
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  Well, I mean, who can argue with this one?
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  This is terrible. It It is again you'd I was doing
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  dishes at my sink with my laptop, propped up the first
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  time I watched this and wow, I had to like stand there with wet
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  hands just like crying uncontrollably.
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  The first time I watched it was not what I expected.
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  I really didn't. I don't know why I didn't think
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  that was how the episode was going to end because now
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  re-watching it you see like how could she go back though there
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  was no way to know what the saddest part of all.
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  Yeah. Uh.
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  Again, the music. Yeah, the music here is key,
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  because her and Anakin exchange, a look, that speaks volume
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  right. There are so many unspoken words
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  between them when she hands him. Her Padawan chain, that they've
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  understood each other this entire time, their wants their
• 20:46
  needs. Yeah.
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  They've never been allowed to speak it out loud.
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  And even then in the very end they were so close to admitting
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  to each other, you know, the things that they knew whether it
• 20:55
  was Padme or the The Fault in the Jedi Order or the council,
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  or the Republic and this entire War, it was all subtle and not
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  even spoken, not once, but they understood each other and the
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  music somehow conveys this, this like regret bridge between them
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  and this, understanding that shit is not what we thought it
• 21:17
  was and there's literally nothing we can do about it.
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  And it's such a mature moment for her to realize that she has
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  to really figure this out on her own without anybody else's.
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  Influence or trying to influence our thoughts or her behavior.
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  That's really a growth moment. But of course, she's been forced
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  into that as well. Like absolute, this whole
• 21:37
  experience to think that they would even suspect her after
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  everything. She's done for the order, all
• 21:43
  the cheese sacrificed obviously Anakin never doubted her.
• 21:47
  Hmm. It even made her doubt herself.
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  She's she's too good for the Jedi.
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  Honestly, she is. Yeah, and the moment where
• 21:56
  Anakin Hence, beerus and like the and he thinks like okay,
• 22:00
  everything's fixed. Yeah, prove to them and then he
• 22:04
  still loses her. Yeah.
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  It's it's really terrible. Well and she she's like one of
• 22:12
  the only people anywhere who really understands Anakin like I
• 22:17
  would say more so than 0, b 1, maybe more, so than Padme
• 22:21
  because she sees a side of Anakin that he doesn't really
• 22:24
  showed anybody else when he kind of like Red's that line of like,
• 22:28
  hey, that's kind of not Jedi Behavior, so that's like, ee
• 22:31
  heartbreaking for Anakin to lose somebody who understands him.
• 22:34
  Because he's one of those people who you can tell, like, kind of
• 22:37
  needs someone out there, someone external to like understand who
• 22:41
  he is and what he needs. And he just doesn't have that no
• 22:44
  one it's and he takes it as a failure moment.
• 22:46
  Probably that he wasn't able to finish her training or see her
• 22:52
  through to her becoming you know, a night or a whatever the
• 22:56
  next what is it. Master.
• 22:58
  I was forget because Anakin never got there himself.
• 23:00
  I'm sorry, but I know the jokes the means everything.
• 23:04
  But I'm sure he internalized a lot of it because, you know
• 23:08
  Anakin yeah. But if I were to put myself in
• 23:10
  her shoes in a so cashews and I thought of everyone who I
• 23:15
  trusted through War battles, you know, strategic planning putting
• 23:20
  your life on the line Etc. All of these people who trusted
• 23:23
  me and I trusted them to turn their backs.
• 23:26
  So Easily. Yeah, that I could never go
• 23:29
  back. She absolutely did the right
• 23:31
  thing and that's what sucks the most about it is that that's
• 23:34
  real life right there. Yeah.
• 23:35
  Because betrayal has no bounds. Yeah. 100% agree.
• 23:41
  And maybe that even saved her life and think of all the lives
• 23:44
  that were saved because she was saved.
• 23:46
  Yeah, because she did not stop doing good.
• 23:48
  No, even after this all the way, like, her whole life.
• 23:51
  Yes, yeah. She might have been with Anakin
• 23:54
  when he turned, which would have put her at risk.
• 23:56
  In so many ways. So yeah, it's like that's the
• 24:01
  thing I think that's so extra painful about this episode or
• 24:04
  this at least this moment is like knowing that it's not what
• 24:07
  you want. You want her to go back and for
• 24:09
  everything to just be the way it was and knowing that that's not
• 24:12
  actually possible. And that the decision she made
• 24:15
  was actually the right decision. It's one of my favorite scenes
• 24:19
  because of all this because of the depth, I crave depth in Star
• 24:22
  Wars. And but it's also beautiful and
• 24:25
  like the sunset It really is orange coloring.
• 24:29
  The golden her walking off the long Shadow the look and
• 24:32
  Anakin's. I it's really really well done
• 24:37
  and Applause to absolutely everyone on the team that made
• 24:40
  that one happen because everything was good performance
• 24:43
  was good and that was one of the only times they use an actual
• 24:47
  Orchestra for their music. Kevin kiner.
• 24:50
  I think he said, he flew to Prague and had like the like the
• 24:53
  check Orchestra perform that piece.
• 24:57
  And it shows and well it's filoni said that like George
• 25:00
  Lucas would never let them not end on that Iris, you know, like
• 25:03
  I ever sing out and like, the music plays.
• 25:05
  And this is the first time roof that they, they ended, they
• 25:08
  saved it to this last moment to like stop on an emotional beat
• 25:13
  with the music. Just gently fading out and that
• 25:15
  was the last episode for, like, how was yours, right?
• 25:21
  Yeah, it was one of those moments when I first saw it,
• 25:23
  like you said, you stood at the sink hands dripping.
• 25:26
  I sat on my couch and I just like paused it like when the
• 25:30
  episode ended and I just sat there in silence.
• 25:32
  Yeah. Like one of those overwhelming
• 25:34
  silent moments where you're just reviewing in your head.
• 25:37
  What the fuck did I just see right and you think about it for
• 25:40
  days afterwards? Yes.
• 25:42
  You lay awake at night and think God she actually did it.
• 25:46
  Yeah, poor Anakin. What the fuck is wrong with the
• 25:49
  order? You know, like your brain.
• 25:51
  Did you do? Yeah, I'm glad they did.
• 25:56
  I think it's I think it was it forwarded the story in ways that
• 26:01
  I mean, obviously Ahsoka could not exist because she doesn't in
• 26:05
  Revenge of the Sith, right? Right.
• 26:08
  But they didn't just toss her character, they gave it meaning
• 26:11
  and it still means something. When they bring her back in live
• 26:15
  action, now Orton Rebels for instance, so yeah, it was
• 26:18
  tactfully done and that's all I ever asked if anyone who's
• 26:21
  putting together something masterful.
• 26:23
  Yes, attacked. Well, they were so smart to like
• 26:26
  use it as One more little push on Anakin, you know, push him a
• 26:29
  little more towards what happens in Revenge of the Sith.
• 26:32
  It's like everything's been very slowly building through six
• 26:36
  seasons of Clone Wars to push him further away from the Jedi
• 26:40
  and just like plant seeds of Doubt.
• 26:42
  Not just city is doing it but like the order doing it on its
• 26:46
  own? Yeah that was it was just
• 26:48
  perfection. God, Star Wars is fucking pain,
• 26:52
  just pain, it is pain, its pain. I'm depressed now.
• 27:04
  Our listener question this week is pretty straightforward.
• 27:07
  I think you could probably guess what it's gonna be.
• 27:09
  But what moments from Clone Wars make you cry every time you
• 27:14
  watch it? I'm sure you've got more than
• 27:16
  one. Oh yeah next week's episode.
• 27:20
  We are going to have fun talking about droids.
• 27:22
  We're just going to have a free flow conversation about all of
• 27:25
  the droids, all of them. Yeah.
• 27:26
  Yeah. Yes and we need to lighten it
• 27:28
  up. We do after this episode droids
• 27:33
  beep bop peeper peeper in last week's episode we chatted about
• 27:39
  how Leia Organa was like her birth parents.
• 27:42
  We ran a poll on Instagram asking if people thought she was
• 27:45
  more like Anakin or Padme and we got a ton of responses.
• 27:50
  The majority of people said they felt she was more like Anakin
• 27:53
  but a fair amount argued in favor of Padme.
• 27:56
  Here's some of Messages, we received Antigone Albright.
• 28:00
  On Instagram, said, Anakin they both have the SAS and take no
• 28:05
  shit. MTV a TD Z said Anakin I feel
• 28:09
  she has his stubbornness but also his passion ever.
• 28:13
  Apple Goods said she's certainly as Anakin's fire all of that
• 28:17
  passion and energy Broadway gymnast. 16 said Anakin in the
• 28:21
  original trilogy, she has his passion to help but also his
• 28:25
  lack of patience. Padme in the sequel Trilogy.
• 28:28
  She Embraces padme's leadership and motherly qualities Lily and
• 28:32
  Dibble 2.0. Said Padme, she wasn't super
• 28:36
  impulsive and has natural leadership skills.
• 28:38
  A real girl boss Piccolo. Ramana said more Anakin because
• 28:43
  she is brave and never stops. If she wants to accomplish
• 28:46
  something, we always love, hearing your detailed passionate
• 28:49
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• 28:52
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