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Wayne Allyn Root WAR RAW 03/07/25 Hour 1 · Wayne Allyn Root’s WAR Zone Audio Hours

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  Speaker 5: All right, let me jump right in because we have
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  Speaker 5: a guest to kick things off. My name is Leel's
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  Speaker 5: filling in the first hour here on Wayne Allen Roots Show.
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  Speaker 5: The show is War the Great Network, Talk Media Network.
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  Speaker 5: And joining me right now to talk about a column
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  Speaker 5: that was written by a brilliant author is my good
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  Speaker 5: friend Colonel Rob Simmons.
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  Speaker 3: Rob, what's so special about this column?
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  Speaker 6: It's called envisioning a dooms Day scenario? A doomsday scenario,
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  Speaker 6: and so the author is saying in this op ed,
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  Speaker 6: think about this, Try to envision a scenario that plays
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  Speaker 6: out like this, A mushroom cloud rises above Kiev, Kharkiv
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  Speaker 6: or Odessa. Now these are cities in Ukraine, Yes, sir,
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  Speaker 6: if anybody in case you lee didn't know anyway, a
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  Speaker 6: tactical nuclear weapon unleashed by Russia. Oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: Russia has more tactical nukes in any country in the world.
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  Speaker 1: Correct.
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  Speaker 6: In fact, if you take all the tactical nukes in
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  Speaker 6: the world and add them up, there're a fraction what
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  Speaker 6: Russia has. Why does Russia have tactical nukes? Because they're
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  Speaker 6: little nukes. They're not big ones. You can pop them around.
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  Speaker 6: It's not like you're obliterating half a continent. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you're not overkilling, just killing a little bit. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you could obliterate the Ukrainian city, reducing it to ash
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  Speaker 6: and sending shockwaves across a world already on edge. What
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  Speaker 6: would we all do? Would we do?
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  Speaker 4: What would Europe do?
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  Speaker 6: What would Zelenski do?
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  Speaker 3: Well?
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  Speaker 6: He might be toast at this point, Okay, the stark
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  Speaker 6: realist answer is likely the world would do very little.
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  Speaker 6: This impotence exposes a harsh truth about the fragility of
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  Speaker 6: global order. When a superpower opts to devour its neighbor Russia, Ukraine, China, Taiwan, Iran, Hbala,
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  Speaker 6: Hamas and the huthis Israel, get those Jews. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: what are you gonna do when Iran has the bomb?
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  Speaker 6: What are you gonna do? So he goes on and
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  Speaker 6: on and on in this op ed talking about, you know,
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  Speaker 6: nuclear war. Now, is that reasonable? Is there any way
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  Speaker 6: we could really validate this? Well, here's an interesting article
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  Speaker 6: that I have here. It's from the Wall Street Journal
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  Speaker 6: opinion a couple of years ago. Putin's nuclear threat is real.
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  Speaker 6: This guy says, essentially, he's Putin isn't just talking, isn't
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  Speaker 6: just fighting Ukraine. He's waging a global war on the
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  Speaker 6: US world order, and the nuclear threat is real. And
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  Speaker 6: Putin says he might use nukes, and you know what,
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  Speaker 6: listen to him. It's the real deal. Here's another art rale.
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  Speaker 6: This is in the Post October twenty twenty two, same
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  Speaker 6: kind of time frame as this other article. Russia President
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  Speaker 6: Vladimir Putin is feared to be planning a nuclear test
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  Speaker 6: on the border with Ukraine. Just a test, It's just
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  Speaker 6: a test. It's a test. Nothing to worry about. We
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  Speaker 6: do testing. While officials in Kiev are already handing out
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  Speaker 6: potassium iodide pills to protect against a possible NUK strike.
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  Speaker 6: NATO issued an intelligence report to its members that the
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  Speaker 6: Kremlin is planning to test so called doomsday Poseidon nuclear
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  Speaker 6: torpedo drones that you launched from a submarine. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: this is in the papers a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 6: Here's a picture of the submarine, here's the Poseidon torpedo,
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  Speaker 6: and it says when it comes to tactical nuclear weapons,
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  Speaker 6: Russia has about ten times more than the US. Huh. Interesting, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: these are little nukes, not big newts. Okay, So if
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  Speaker 6: you go back a couple of years, you see quite
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  Speaker 6: a bit of chatter about this. So this this author
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  Speaker 6: is really not far off the time. So now Zelensky
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  Speaker 6: comes to Washington, DC, and he has this little hissy
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  Speaker 6: fit and he walks out and he runs over to
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  Speaker 6: Great Britain and gives him a big smack on the
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  Speaker 6: lips because they're going to help him. Right, except for
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  Speaker 6: one thing. When you look at the twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 6: NATO spending as a percentage of gross domestic product, where
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  Speaker 6: is the United Kingdom on this list? Well, they're under
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  Speaker 6: two and a half percent. Now the goal right now,
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  Speaker 6: according to Macron, the Frenchman is the froggy guy is
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  Speaker 6: three three percent. How many NATO countries are over three percent? Well,
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  Speaker 6: you've got Greece, Latvia, the United States at three point
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  Speaker 6: three eight percent, Estonia at almost three and a half percent,
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  Speaker 6: and the biggest NATO partner when it comes to percent
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  Speaker 6: of GDP. Want to guess, poll axe, how'd you know that?
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  Speaker 3: How'd you know that?
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  Speaker 1: I could you know that?
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  Speaker 6: I didn't tell you that. No, Poland is over four percent? Now,
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  Speaker 6: how come Poland is so high? Because they're nervous neighbors
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  Speaker 6: with who youkrat.
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  Speaker 1: And who else?
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  Speaker 3: Russia?
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  Speaker 6: And what happened during World War two?
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  Speaker 5: Rule?
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  Speaker 6: Oh, the Nazis. The Nazis rounded up ten thousand Polish
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  Speaker 6: military officers and killed them and buried them in the
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  Speaker 6: Katin woods. Did you know that?
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  Speaker 1: No, actually did not.
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  Speaker 6: Well, it's what happened. But you know what wasn't the Nazis?
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  Speaker 1: Who was it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a secret. Probably not supposed to talk
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  Speaker 6: about it on.
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  Speaker 1: The radio ship.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, it was the Ruskies who did it, and they
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  Speaker 6: blamed it on the Nazis. So the pole axe and
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  Speaker 6: the Ruskies, you know they don't get a long pole
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  Speaker 6: axe and Cossacks that's what they call it. They don't.
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  Speaker 6: They don't get along, and they've kind of not gotten
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  Speaker 6: along for a while. So Poland is a neighbor of
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  Speaker 6: the Ruskies, and they figure if if Ukraine goes down,
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  Speaker 6: who's next? They are, okay? So then you look at
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  Speaker 6: some of our other NATO partners. I don't know, we're
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  Speaker 6: having this little, this little dust up with with Canada,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the land of maple syrup and hockey bucks
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  Speaker 6: and Trudeau. But he doesn't like you. He speaks French,
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  Speaker 6: so you don't know what he's talking about. Only when
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  Speaker 6: he likes you does he speak English, and he speaks French.
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  Speaker 6: So anyway, oh, our good friends in Canada, how are
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  Speaker 6: they doing when it comes to NATO? Probably not much, Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: a little bit over one percent. And yet we carry
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  Speaker 6: their water on the nuclear shield, do we not? We
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  Speaker 6: carry their water on a navy projecting power on both
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  Speaker 6: coasts and around the world and in the Arctic, right,
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  Speaker 6: what are they doing in the Artic? Well, they got
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  Speaker 6: Sergeant Preston and amounted troops up there riding around you know,
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  Speaker 6: Dudley do right? Hey, oh, lud whata eh Luna?
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  Speaker 4: Eh?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: What are they doing? Nothing? They're doing nothing, but they're
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  Speaker 6: yapping at us. They're angry. Well, we don't you know,
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  Speaker 6: you're going to do a terriff on us. But that's
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  Speaker 6: not fair. Well wait a minute. You have tariffs on
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  Speaker 6: us for thirty years, and you have a trade in
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  Speaker 6: balance of one hundred and seventy billion dollars against us,
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  Speaker 6: and we're paying the freight on NATO for you and
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  Speaker 6: the nuclear shield and the navy and everything else. Right,
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  Speaker 6: So hey, maple sugar boys, you know, put the hockey
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  Speaker 6: pucks down and get to work. You're gonna have to
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  Speaker 6: pay your own share. So Zelensky he's running. Oh, he
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  Speaker 6: also runs off to France. How's France doing on a
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  Speaker 6: percentage of GDB? They say we should be three percent?
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  Speaker 6: Where's France?
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  Speaker 1: I would say the ones probably yeah, a little.
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  Speaker 6: Almost two percent almost.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So here we have all these NATO countries, they're about
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  Speaker 6: thirty four of them, right, and the ones that are
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  Speaker 6: really performing are Poland East Tonia. Why east Tonia, I
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  Speaker 6: think they're over there too, right, Estonia? Yeah, right up
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  Speaker 6: against the Russian border. The Russian bear can't wait to
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  Speaker 6: gobble Latvia, Lithuania and Eastonia. One bite he gets ahole
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  Speaker 6: three of them, so you know what, they take it seriously.
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  Speaker 6: So this this op ed, This op ed is really
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  Speaker 6: interesting because it says the world's fear of the mushroom
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  Speaker 6: cloud might just be its Achilles heel Who's who? Do
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  Speaker 6: you know who Achilles is? Who's he? So this is
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  Speaker 6: a clarion call. This is how this op ed concludes, strength,
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  Speaker 6: not rhetoric, is our only shield against the abyss abyss
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  Speaker 6: you know, peace? Uh, peace through strength? Who said that,
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  Speaker 6: Reagan or somebody? Through strength? So when Biden retreated out
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  Speaker 6: of Afghanistan, not a good sign. When Biden said about
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  Speaker 6: putin well maybe a little invasion, not a good sign.
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  Speaker 6: When Biden said, we'll pay for this war as long
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  Speaker 6: as it takes, but we'll only give little bits and
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  Speaker 6: little drafts and little bits here and there.
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  Speaker 1: Not good.
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  Speaker 6: And then when Zelenski shows up and Trump says I
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  Speaker 6: want peace, and Zelenski essentially walks out on an effort
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  Speaker 6: to bring about peace, he walks out the willingness to fight,
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  Speaker 6: and Ukrainians are fighting on their own territory, so they're
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  Speaker 6: fighting to the death. The Russians are essentially invading Ukraine,
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  Speaker 6: They're being drafted, they're being released out of prison, they're
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  Speaker 6: coming over from North Korea. How's their morale? It's probably
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  Speaker 6: not as high, not as high. And so they're getting
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  Speaker 6: slaughtered over a million casualties, whereas Ukraine has around five thousand,
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  Speaker 6: maybe six hundred thousand casualties. So more Ruskies are dying
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  Speaker 6: than Yukis. But the Ruskis have the numbers on their side.
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  Speaker 6: The Ruskies also have what they've.
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  Speaker 1: Got the nukes.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's what this guy said in this article.
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  Speaker 6: And so the doomsday scenario is if it's gone bad
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  Speaker 6: for the Ruskies, they pop attack nuke onto Yukis and
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  Speaker 6: then what then.
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  Speaker 1: What happens break their back?
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  Speaker 6: What happens?
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  Speaker 1: Nothing?
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  Speaker 6: Well, or world War three, either we say okay, Vladimir,
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  Speaker 6: you can have it, we're out, or full fledged World
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  Speaker 6: War three.
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  Speaker 5: Colonel I appreciate you pointing out that excellent column, really excellent,
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  Speaker 3: So it's been a busy, hectic week.
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  Speaker 1: Every week is busy and hectic nowadays. But Tuesday night.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, was the presidential speech.
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  Speaker 2: Donald J.
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  Speaker 5: Trump getting just standing ovation after standing ovation by well.
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  Speaker 1: At least half of the room.
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  Speaker 5: The rest of the Democrats and their sullen looks in
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  Speaker 5: their somber faces were just pathetic. But pald Trump hit
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  Speaker 5: a home run on Tuesday night and some of the
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  Speaker 5: things he talked about, one in particular, I want to
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  Speaker 5: get into right now. There's something that's gone from a
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  Speaker 5: whisper to a roar, and we've talked about it a lot.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like we were one of the first radio
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  Speaker 5: stations to really talk about this at length. Because I'm
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  Speaker 5: an athlete, my friends are mostly athletes, there's a lot
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  Speaker 5: of even though I try my best not to do
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  Speaker 5: that a lot because I don't want to be stereotyped
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  Speaker 5: as the dumb jock, even though I probably am. The
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  Speaker 5: insane sanity, the absolute insanity of biological men competing in
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  Speaker 5: women's sports continues. This isn't about fairness or inclusion. It's
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  Speaker 5: about dismantling decades of progress for female athletes who literally
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  Speaker 5: have sweat bled and clawed their way to the top,
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  Speaker 5: only to be shoved aside by a radical ideology that
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  Speaker 5: defies all logic and all common sense. So on January fourteenth,
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  Speaker 5: the Republican majority House passed the Protection of Women and
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  Speaker 5: Girls in Sports Acts back then a vote of two
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  Speaker 5: eighteen to two oh six. Every Republican said yes, all
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  Speaker 5: but two Democrats said no. In the Senate, Tuberbill pushed
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  Speaker 5: a similar bill, but it crashed and burned because not
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  Speaker 5: a single Democrat across the aisle, not one. They clung
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  Speaker 5: to their gender dogma, ignoring mos Americans. By the way,
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  Speaker 5: the polls show that over seventy percent of those Americans
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  Speaker 5: don't believe men should play in women's sports. To buy
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  Speaker 5: in to this insanity where men should play on the
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  Speaker 5: same sports fields with women, and Trump talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: At length on Tuesday Night.
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  Speaker 5: A lot of these Democrats don't vote with their constituents.
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  Speaker 1: They don't care about that. And that's not quote unquote
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  Speaker 1: a democracy. That's arrogance. Let's get to the heart of it.
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  Speaker 5: Girls, young women decided to live their lives through a sport.
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  Speaker 1: Years of early mornings.
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  Speaker 5: I know what it takes to do this, years of
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  Speaker 5: early mornings, grueling practices and sacrifices.
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  Speaker 3: That most of you can't imagine.
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  Speaker 1: I'm serious about that.
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  Speaker 5: The greatest of the great athletes, they're up before dawn.
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  Speaker 3: They work until the wee hours of the morning.
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  Speaker 5: You're trying to cobble together your school work and athletics.
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  Speaker 5: It's not easy. And they're not just competing for trophy.
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  Speaker 5: Sometimes they're chasing a scholarship, a dream, a future. And
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  Speaker 5: when you're on a field with other individuals with physical
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  Speaker 5: advantages and strength and speed and size, it's just unfair
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  Speaker 5: and it's dangerous. The volleyball player that Trump featured during
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  Speaker 5: his speech, I mean, this was an aspiring super athlete
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  Speaker 5: who got spiked in the head, had paralysis and all
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  Speaker 5: kinds of other issues because a transgender man spiked a
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  Speaker 5: volleyball on her head. It's just a matter of time
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  Speaker 5: before a real serious incident occurs in one of these
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  Speaker 5: sporting events. Somewhere along the line, and read a story
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  Speaker 5: where one of these girls doesn't get up, whether.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lacrosse game or what have you.
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  Speaker 5: They're not gonna go a soccer They're gonna get into
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  Speaker 5: the boards and they're gonna die. Women need to be
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  Speaker 5: louder about this. Biological men need to be louder about this.
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  Speaker 5: If there's a transgender athlete who's actually being allowed to compete,
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  Speaker 5: we should almost all turn our back to that person,
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  Speaker 5: not recognize any success that they may have. We're pushing
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  Speaker 5: these young girls aside, erasing their opportunities, all in this
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  Speaker 5: crazy idea of fairness that somehow allows men to participate
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  Speaker 5: against women, and it seemingly only flows one way, and
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  Speaker 5: And the Dems want to call this insanity compassion and
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  Speaker 3: Around the world as it pertains to the military.
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  Speaker 5: So, Steven, if Russia decided to up the ante here
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: and drop you call it a tactical nuke somewhere in
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: Ukraine because they feel as though they wanted to stop
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  Speaker 5: the meat grinder and stop losing their own soldiers, what
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: would the world do? Can I get the impression of
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: the world would do very little? Economic sanctions, yes, saber rattling, yes,
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  Speaker 5: but what would we do?
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  Speaker 8: You know, I I think it would be more than that.
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  Speaker 8: I think literally Russia would become a pariah state. People say, oh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 8: but we have everything on them now, Now we don't.
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: We've got there's lots and lots of economic and diplomatic
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: actions we could still take that will hurt them and
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: will isolate them further. They are not anywhere near one
• 22:56
  Speaker 8: hundred percent isolated. We tend to say that you were
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: saying about North Korea, Iran, But there's still a ton
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: of avenues open for interaction with those countries. So there's
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: a bunch more stuff we could do short of direct
• 23:12
  Speaker 8: military action. But I'm to be honest with you, I think, uh,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: there would be some direct military action taken if Putin
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: decide to use a nuclear device, even if it's a
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: tactical move, which you know, for most people you think nukes,
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: you think of you know, entire you know, all of
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: New York City disappearing in a blink, that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 8: A tactical nuke is not that dramatic. I mean, it
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: would be bad because there's fallout and stuff like that.
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: But you know, think of if you were in a
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: medium size Midwestern city, so you know, for the Northeast,
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: maybe like your state capitol in Connecticut. Uh, it would
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: take out a piece of that city, so wouldn't it
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: take out the whole thing, even though that's not a
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: massive city. So tactical nukes are bad. Right, nobody wants
• 24:11
  Speaker 8: anybody to use any kind of nuclear device, but it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 8: not the kind of catastrophic thing. You know. It's not
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: going to create nuclear winter or anything like that, so
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: everybody you know can take a breath on that. I
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: think the first step would be complete isolation of Russia
• 24:30
  Speaker 8: economically and diplomatically, and if necessary, you would see a
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: much stronger stand, particularly from the Western countries against Russia.
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: I think the happiest person in the world if Russia
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: uses a tactical nuke would be b Zelenski because it
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: would take all any sort of doubt off the table
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: about how we're going to go forward.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: That leads into the scenario that's actually how opening and
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: unfolding now, which is Russia's gobbled up land and let's
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: say they didn't, you know, didn't use the nuclear weapon.
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: The rest of the world is pushing back, but that
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: threat of the nuke is always hanging over our head,
• 25:11
  Speaker 5: I think, and that's why we've probably let him get
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: away with as much as we have, which goes back
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: to the idea of why we should never ever, ever
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: ever allow any other.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Nations to get a nuclear arsenal.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: Correct that that's one hundred percent correct. It's look Vladimir
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: Putin right now, Russia is not a superpower anymore. He
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: gets a lot of difference because he is a second
• 25:36
  Speaker 8: tier at best power in the world who not only
• 25:39
  Speaker 8: has nuclear devices, but has the means to do long
• 25:43
  Speaker 8: range deployment of those nuclear devices through their intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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  Speaker 8: He is a criminal oligarch who has some really really
• 25:54
  Speaker 8: dangerous toys at his disposal and has a different system
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: of thinking than you and I as to what's a
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: good idea and what's not. Uh, those two things together
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: make it. It means you got a tiptoe around somebody
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: like that. You can't just assume that it you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: nothing bad is going to happen.
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: Carl Stephen Bucci from the Heritage Foundation is joining us.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Let's go to last Friday. We all watched it the
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: White House, Zolensky, Trump and even Vance got involved in this.
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  Speaker 5: Give me, if you can your general impressions of what
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: we watched, and then tactically how it's going to unfold
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: moving forward.
• 26:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, first of all, I think it was unfortunate that
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: it played out the way it did. And I don't
• 26:41
  Speaker 8: know on on Zolensky side if it was he just
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: made a mistake and thought that he could pull this
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: card out in front of the press and it would
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: cause Trump to, you know, into a corner. And he
• 26:58
  Speaker 8: figured out that doesn't life being in corners, and you
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: really shouldn't never push him into one because it might
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: turn out differently than you think. Or I did see
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: a couple of reports that just prior to that meeting
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: that mister Zelenski did a couple of meetings with some
• 27:19
  Speaker 8: very liberal Democrat legislators who allegedly, and again I can't
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: prove this, I'm just telling you what I read, allegedly
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: they pushed him to try and do exactly what he
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: did and it badly backfired. And whoever gave him that
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: advice always him a huge apology because it was bad advice.
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: But that said, I wish Trump had not gotten as
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: angry and upset about it. It made Trump look bad,
• 27:49
  Speaker 8: it made advanced. I know some people they're all cheering
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: that our guys acted that way. I'm not sure it
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: was a statesman like as I prefer I would have
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: preferred if they said, okay, let's just end this right now,
• 28:03
  Speaker 8: let's go into the meeting. Press, you're dismissed from the room,
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: and then started the real work of diplomacy together and
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: sorted out any differences that were existing. By trying to
• 28:15
  Speaker 8: do it in front of the press, nobody looks good,
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: nobody looks either statesmanlike or effective, And as a result,
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: now we have at least a minor impast that hopefully
• 28:30
  Speaker 8: is moving quickly to getting resolved. Zelenski talked apparently earlier today,
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: he's ready to sign the mineral deal, you know, and
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: go forward, and hopefully our guys are not so ticked
• 28:44
  Speaker 8: by the whole thing that they're willing to back up
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: and go back to that originally negotiated agreement that was
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: just supposed to be signed in this meeting.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: The first thing is our Senator Christopher Murphy was spearheading
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: that whole treutch react in the scenes, trying to get
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Zelensky to go into that meeting with a different narrative
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: and not sign that mineral deal. So shame on those
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: Democrats for trying to spike the punch if you will.
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: And on the flip side, maybe I'm in the super
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: minority here, colonel, but I don't think Zelensky was way
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: out of line with some of the things that he
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: had said.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: We have to remember.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: English is his second language, so sometimes things come across
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: very differently than they actually maybe the intended intent of it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So that's the way I see that.
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: Some of it is just anything they can do to
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: make Trump look bad to them is a good thing
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: and the net win, and I think that's unfortunate. You know, look,
• 29:45
  Speaker 8: when when President Biden was in office, I didn't agree
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: with hardly anything he did, but he was still my
• 29:52
  Speaker 8: president and his decisions and his behavior concerned me because
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: he was representing me and interest of my country. The
• 30:02
  Speaker 8: Dems need to understand right now, the will of the
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: American people was that Donald Trump is going to lead
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: this country. And you may not like him senators and
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: congress persons and lobbyists and even a lot of federal employees,
• 30:18
  Speaker 8: but he's the guy in the seat. He was the
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: one that was elected. You don't want to deliberately screw
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: him up or try and make him look bad when
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: it's going to hurt America or in this case, hurt
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: another country, and I think that's what happened. I agree
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: with you. I didn't think Zelenski was that outrageous, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: the result of what he did say was potentially catastrophic
• 30:45
  Speaker 8: to his cause. It really was a mistake to come
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: across that way, and I think, particularly once that both
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: sides got heated, he was definitely had a huge disadvantage
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: because he's not a native English speaker. His English is
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: pretty good, but it's not great, and it's definitely not
• 31:07
  Speaker 8: something you want to get in a heated argument in
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: the second language. You are at an enormous disadvantage. So
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: this should have been something. Once those tempers started to flare,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: both sides should have said, Okay, I'll tell you what,
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: let's take a time out press you're dismissed. I know
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: we told you had another fifteen minutes. Well we got
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: to get serious here and we're not doing that in
• 31:30
  Speaker 8: front of you, and then move to the closed door meeting.
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: Unfortunately that didn't happen.
• 31:36
  Speaker 5: I'm a big fan of the transparency, but I think
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: this could have been settled better settled behind closed doors.
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: Let me ask you this question, Colonel Stephen Bucci. You know,
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: in two thousand, Putin had flirted with the idea of
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: joining NATO, and essentially I think we ignored him. And
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: maybe my memory of this is not exactly accurate. What
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: do you remember about that? And can we actually even
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: envision a world where Putin actually joins and Russia actually
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: joins NATO.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: I don't know if they're going to offer again. We
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: offered it when I was there in the Pentagon with
• 32:07
  Speaker 8: Secretary of Rumsfeldt. We were kind of the lead and
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: talking to him about that. Because even though NATO is
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: a political alliance, you know, it's an enormous military component.
• 32:19
  Speaker 8: So one of the first places that was raised was
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: in our talks with on the military side, you know,
• 32:27
  Speaker 8: or defense side. The civilians did it talking with the
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: military there, but it wasn't like on the State Department,
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: and we were trying to convince him, look, you guys,
• 32:38
  Speaker 8: we want you in here. You know, they had been
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: somewhat gobsmacked after the First Gulf War when we just
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: destroyed Saddam Hussein so quickly and at ranges that the
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: the Soviet tanks that they were using weren't even in
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: the game until they were flaming Man, and they were
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: surprised by all that, and we thought, well, maybe this
• 33:05
  Speaker 8: is a good time. In two thousand, we offered to
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: let them join, and unfortunately mister Putin said no.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: All right, Well there you have it.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: There's your answer, Colonel Stephen Bochie, Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 4: I got a run amount of time.
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  Speaker 5: students in the United States are reading at or below
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  Speaker 5: below basic. The divide between high performing and low performing students,
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  Speaker 5: For our country and our ability to compete internationally. First
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  Speaker 5: a law prohibiting long standing charters from receiving the same
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  Speaker 5: kind of rental assistance that newer charters do. The state
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  Speaker 5: also gives charters far less funding than traditional schools.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Democrats have always.
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  Speaker 5: Been against the charter schools or any kind of alternative
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  Speaker 5: learning scenarios. They always want it to be the giant beast,
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  Speaker 5: the giant Department of Education run by the FEDS, because
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: the Feds know how to do it best. Yet we
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  Speaker 5: see these scores continue to decline, and as I've said
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  Speaker 5: before in the past, in some of these studies, up
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  Speaker 5: to twenty five percent of high school seniors cannot read.
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  Speaker 5: For me, it's simple, pardon the pun, mathematics. If what
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  Speaker 5: you're doing isn't working, change it. Let's find something better.
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  Speaker 5: Just because it says the Department of Education, and it
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  Speaker 5: gives you this illusion like it's out to do only
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  Speaker 5: good things for kids and making them smarter and making
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  Speaker 5: them well trained and better ready to take on what
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  Speaker 5: the world is going to throw at them. It doesn't
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  Speaker 5: mean that at all, eighty billion dollars a year is
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: thrown at the Department of Education. And yet for what
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  Speaker 5: is it, forty five years, we've seen a slow decline
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  Speaker 5: in the kid's intellect and their ability to learn and
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  Speaker 5: read and do mathematics, and we're falling behind these other countries.
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  Speaker 5: I say it's time to try something new, and I
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: don't think it's a heavy ask.
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  Speaker 1: Or a heavy lift for that matter. Without question.
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: All right, CNN, and it's their fact check saying Trump
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: falsely claim there were trans experiments on my CNN backtracked
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: what they had put out there.
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  Speaker 1: Journalist, I guess it's the ride.
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  Speaker 5: McPhillips asserted that Trump falsely claimed Tuesday Night that the
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: Department of Government Efficiency identified eight million that was spent
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  Speaker 5: on making mice transgender. Instead, she argued that gains were
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: given to projects that applied hormone therapy to monkeys to
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: understand the effects of HIV treatment. Between twenty twenty one
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: and twenty twenty two, the fiscal years, the National Institute
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: of Health awarded a total of four hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 5: seven twenty one dollars to three projects that involved administering
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: feminizing hormone therapy to monkeys to understand how it may
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: affect their immune system and make them more susceptible to HIV.
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: Feminizing hormone therapy is a gender affirming treatment used to
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: block the side effects of hormone and testosterone treatments, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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  Speaker 5: So another nitpicking situation by CNN. The bottom line is
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: our money is being wasted constantly, and we have finally
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: got a president that seemingly wants to do something about that,
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: seemingly wants to fix something that is broken.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm on board one million percent.
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  Speaker 5: And just one final side note, I've talked about this
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  Speaker 5: before on my morning show. A can we not get
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  Speaker 5: to a place in this world right, we're supposed to
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  Speaker 5: be human beings, We're supposed to have a certain level
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: of compassion running these experiments on our animal friends. To me,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: it's abominable, it's horrific, it's unconscionable. We can do this
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  Speaker 5: without doing that. We don't need to subject mice to
• 41:39
  Speaker 5: these cruel experiments, or monkeys, or for God's sake, beagles
• 41:43
  Speaker 5: that were tortured by doctor Fauci. These are things that
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: we should be better at and be more humane and
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: basically embrace humanity just a little bit. We talk about
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: that a lot, and I don't know, that's just a
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: deep pet peeve of mine as to why we still
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: in this day and age, right where Ai is jumping
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: leaps and bounds every single day, that for some reason
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: we feel like we need to test some of these
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: products on these poor animals. That they don't deserve that
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: kind of treatment, and they don't deserve that kind of torture.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: You know, their lives are short enough, and in a
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: lot of cases, their lives are torturous.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Enough, and we just add to it when we don't
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: have to. So there you go. That's me on my soapbox.
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  Speaker 5: I will leave you with that. I hope you all
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: enjoy your weekend. Be nice to each other as best
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: you can, even.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: The progressives, I guess, try to be nice to them.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe try to talk them off.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: The ledge, get them back to some form of humanity,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: insanity and all that goes along with that. Wayne Allen
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Rude has arrived and his big giant stretch Limo, and
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: he is going to rock the airwaves. Thank you to everyone,
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  Speaker 5: including our good friends up in Minneapolis pushing the buttons
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  Speaker 5: making us go.
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  Speaker 1: Keep listening to war.
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