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#211: The Prowler (1981) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  I want you to be my date. Rose.
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  Welcome to What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and
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  the absurd, And all of our favorite.
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  And least favorite scary movies, because we believe every horror
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  movie rightfully has its fan base.
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  Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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  My name is Jessie, and welcome back to Prom Month party,
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  people. Yeah, we've got our third.
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  I can't believe we're already at our third movie of the month.
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  I know, but here we are, and this is actually our Patreon
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  voted movie. We are gonna be discussing
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  1981's The Prowler, AKA a lot of different shit.
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  So we'll get into that in just a moment.
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  But first, I have no announcements.
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  Travis, do you have poll results?
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  I do. OK, So what we're doing this
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  month is we're taking every movie and putting 4 characters
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  up there, and you have to choose your prom date from that movie.
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  So last week's movie was Cabin Fever 2 so we have 4 characters
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  here, John, Cassie, the Rabbit or Party Cop.
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  So you have to choose one of those as your prom date.
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  So on Twitter, 20% choose John, 20% choose Cassie, 60% choose
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  the Rabbit and 0% choose Party Cop.
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  On Instagram 11% John, 33% Cassie, 33% the Rabbit, 22%
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  Party Cop. OK.
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  Who would you choose? Oh, none of those.
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  You wouldn't choose any of them. No, I'd choose Frederica.
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  OK. She feels good about herself,
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  she knows what she wants, and she puts a lot of pride into
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  making punch. I just.
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  I think Frederica would be a good time.
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  You know what I'm gonna say though?
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  She kind of bailed on her date to go have sex with the dude, if
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  you really think about it. I mean.
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  Is that what you want in your prom date?
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  To bail on you? To go have sex with somebody
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  else. We're not anything serious, you
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  know what I mean? We're just there for a good
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  time. If that's part of her good time,
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  then so be it. All right, well, well, OK.
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  If that's the time for a good time you want to have, you can
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  choose her as an option. I'm going to choose party cop,
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  because Party cop is just always a good time.
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  He always wants to party and it's like the party.
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  And you want to talk about somebody bailing on you the
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  second he thinks there's something more fun or dangerous?
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  He's out there. I guarantee you, if Cassie would
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  have said I just came back from the prom, they're all
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  slaughtered. He would be.
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  Whoa, there's a party. Exactly.
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  I just don't think he'd be. I don't think he'd be a reliable
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  date. Well, teach their own There's no
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  perfect candidate here, really. All the people in Cabin Fever
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  are kind of terrible. You know why?
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  Because they're teenagers. Except for party cop, who might
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  actually be a. Teenager who's still basically a
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  teenager. I wouldn't be surprised if he's
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  like 19 for Shadow Academy or something.
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  He actually looks like he would. Yeah.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  All right. That's it for our poll within.
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  So let's talk about the Prowler. Let's talk about the Prowler.
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  What we can anyway, so the Prowler had a limited release on
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  June 26th, 1981 and it had a RE release April 13th, 1984.
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  We watched it on Shutter, the last drive in Edition, but as of
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  May 11th you can also watch it on Tubi Fandango At Home Prime,
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  AMC Plus, YouTube Primetime, Sling TV Premium, or YouTube TV
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  Premium. Guess what?
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  You ain't paying for this shit directly.
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  There's no rental options. Seriously.
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  Yeah, you're either watching it on a free streaming service or
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  you're paying for a free streaming or paying for a non
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  free streaming service. I feel like that's a first, like
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  it's usually the other way around.
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  That's weird. That's that's where we're at
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  with this you This movie cannot make money if it wanted to.
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  It's gotta make something from the streaming rights.
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  We'll see. OK, so the screenplay was
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  written by Glenn Leopold and Neil Barbera.
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  If the name Barbera sounds familiar to you, yes, it does.
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  Son of that. Barbera.
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  Hannah Barbera. Yes.
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  Wait, isn't Hannah Barbera two people?
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  Yes. OK.
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  Yeah, I just went along with it. I wasn't going to call you out
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  for saying that. I just know that he's the
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  Barbera. Yeah, I think it's, I want to
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  say it's like Joseph Barbera maybe.
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  We also had some additional dialogue credits that went to
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  Eric Liwald, Mark Edward Edens and Michael Edens.
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  And then Rosa's letter got a writing credit as well, and that
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  was done by Sarah Higgins. Oh, really?
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  Yeah. The letter itself got a credit.
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  Wow. Interesting.
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  You know what I I found that very fascinating.
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  You know what? I think it's kind of it's nice
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  that they are handing out credit where it's due.
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  Exactly, exactly. That is refreshing especially.
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  On a movie like this, A small movie like this.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  Directed by Joseph Zito, who you might recognize from this
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  podcast as one of the directors of one of the Friday the 13th
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  movies. I believe it was.
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  Chapter 4. Yeah, Yep.
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  The final chapter. Part four of the final chapter.
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  There you go. I know.
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  Chapters in there somewhere. Yeah, there, there's a thing.
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  There's a chapter, a book, maybe verse.
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  I would say it's probably the best Friday the 13th.
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  Yeah, it's it's way up there for me.
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  Yeah, I'm, I'm wearing the the best.
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  Yeah, there's no swaying you from that.
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  One Absolutely not. Yeah.
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  Music by Richard Einhorn. There's also a band in it that
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  like, performs at the dance, and they're called Nowhere Fast.
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  I I love those guys. They're.
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  So good. Yeah, they were.
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  They were feeling themselves. I was feeling themselves.
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  I'd go to a dance. How?
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  Is feeling themselves? Yeah, dude.
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  Like, if any dance can get down a band like that, that's pretty
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  awesome. Exactly.
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  And special effects Makeup made by the man himself, Tom Savini.
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  We've said it before. We shall say it again.
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  We are Stan Venies on this podcast.
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  Dude, he fucking kills in this movie, he.
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  Does he does. Starring Vicky Dawson as Pam
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  McDonald, Christopher Gautman as Deputy Mark London, Cindy
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  Weintrum as Lisa Lawrence, Tyranny as Major Chatham and
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  Farley Granger as Sheriff George Fraser Travis, it is time for
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  our favorite game budget or Buckhead.
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  Well, this is definitely gonna be a bug Ted movie.
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  In fact, it is. So would you like to venture a
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  guess as to how bug Ted? I'd say 1,000,000.
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  Yes. Wow.
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  All right. Yeah.
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  Yeah. There were various reports that
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  was like 400 or $500,000 and Joseph Zeto was like, no, it
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  took a million to do the full production.
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  That's impressive. I do not have an opening box
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  office as you'll remember. Limited.
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  Yeah. Release.
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  Mm hmm, this is this might be a first under the gross.
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  When I was doing my research, it just said less than 1,000,000.
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  Did it really? It just says.
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  Less than a million. I did not get a solid number on
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  it. Well, I love that you can
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  actually. Did it type that out less than a
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  million or was it like the sign? The little the little π sign
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  I'm. Gonna say it would be funny if
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  you could just actually put like some.
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  Like. Well, gross some like I made
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  some. Little Wiggly.
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  Like the little, like shrug. Yeah, OK, it has a 5.9 out of 10
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  on IMDb. OK, that's not too bad.
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  I have a theme, OK for 1981. Apparently this is a good year
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  for college horror. Oh fuck yes.
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  So, well, this was a year for college horror.
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  Let's let's yeah, let's save that for when we start talking
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  about these numbers. OK, so the first one's called
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  Final exam. Oh, that movie.
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  Mm hmm. Which release?
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  I think you're gonna say that about all of these.
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  That's when I haven't seen yet, but I've wanted to watch it.
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  It released June 5th, 1981 with a budget of 3 and 74,000.
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  No gross information is got a 4.6 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  Yeah, I've I've heard mixed things about that one, but I'd
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  still like to check it out. OK, next one.
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  This one's got a heavy hitter starring Linda Blair.
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  What? What?
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  Hell night. Yeah, I knew exactly what you're
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  gonna say whenever you said Linda Blair.
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  Hell Night is one of those movies that I've seen all of it,
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  just not all in a single sitting.
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  I'm the same, honestly. It's like almost perpetually on,
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  well, RIP the old shutter TV options.
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  Now it's just it came from Shutter.
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  I like that it came from Shutter channel, but I missed the slash
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  X. You know what really pisses me
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  off though, is that it hasn't hit all platforms yet.
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  So we're on Roku TV and we're just limited to 1 shutter
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  channel now. But yeah, you're right that that
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  movie used to play on there basically like on loop.
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  Yeah, And we've caught many parts of.
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  It Yeah. So it released August 28th, 1981
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  under a budget of 1.4 million. And again, I have no worldwide
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  gross information. It does have a 5.6 out of 10 on
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  IODB. Interesting.
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  OK, and the 3rd and final movie I have pulled for comparison is
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  Night School. Night school.
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  So this one I feel like would really interest you because it's
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  about students being killed, but it's also like a police crime
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  drama. Interesting.
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  Yeah. So that's.
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  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I feel like you'd be into that
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  one. I've never heard of it before.
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  It it seems it seems like a Travis movie.
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  No, Weirdly, I don't have a budget for this one, but I do
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  have a gross of roughly 1.2 million.
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  Whoa, OK, whoa. It made.
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  US and Canadian. It doesn't say which dollar it
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  is. I find that very SUS on IMDb
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  that they started doing US and Canadian.
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  Yeah, I know, right? Because you're like.
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  One is more impressive than the other.
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  Yeah, that also has a 5.6 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  You know what? That also feels like a tactic to
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  inflate your numbers and like actually like, Well, they both
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  have the same dollar sign. I'm gonna list the US budget and
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  then I'm gonna list the Canadian gross.
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  Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I feel like that you're playing the
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  system. I I mean, you know, what if the
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  system's gonna be like that? Make it work for you basically.
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  System be like that then do. Exactly.
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  Thank you, Charlie. Kelly OK, Believe it or not, so
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  many taglines, really. Yeah, I know.
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  One of them not quite screenshot what is your tagline that you
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  have. It was the one that was on the
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  poster that I posted. It was something about ice.
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  I don't know, like this time it's cold.
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  I don't know the Prowler, It's cold.
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  Yes, but no. The one you're thinking of is It
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  will freeze your blood. There we go.
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  I mean like it. It's cold.
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  This is when it was pre released under the title Pitchfork
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  Massacre. Yeah.
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  You don't need a chainsaw to have a massacre.
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  Oh, I like that. Do you like that or does it feel
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  like a cheap, like the pitchfork?
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  And he doesn't even use the pitchfork for.
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  It's like when everybody's like, oh, Jason Voorhees, his
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  signature weapon is a machete. I'm like his ratio of using a
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  machete to using other things is like, I mean I I'd have to do
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  the math on it, but I'm gonna say that it's like the P number
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  is insignificant, you know what I mean?
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  The P number. Yeah.
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  P numbers. Yeah.
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  Sorry. No, you're right.
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  Yeah, he he uses the pitchfork like, I think there's like 2.
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  There's two significant kills that come from it that are
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  pretty great and the rest is just like an army knife.
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  There's also that shot of Pam like backing up with it.
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  It feels very Friday the 13th. Oh yeah, I think, yeah, that's
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  like one of the most iconic ones.
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  Yeah, OK, Just when you thought it was over.
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  Oh, nobody's ever said that about this baby prowler.
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  Just when he thought it. Was over what?
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  When did. Yeah, that makes sense for a
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  sequel. OK, what?
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  The human exterminator. The human exterminator.
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  The prower. The human exterminator.
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  Yep. What the fuck?
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  Yep, they're. Just like throwing shit at the
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  wall here, trying to like. Yeah, they're like, how would
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  you describe the Prowler? Well, he's a.
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  Human exterminator, OK? If you think you're safe, you're
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  dead wrong. That's not bad.
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  That's generic horror movie tagline though.
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  Yeah, that's true. Like you could literally plug
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  that onto any horror movie. Well, see, they lowered my
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  expectations with some of these other ones here and then.
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  That like the freezing your blood, when this movie has
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  nothing to do with freezing? Yeah, at all.
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  Yeah, yeah. I mean, they got the blood part
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  right? Why not do something, Do
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  something related to like the war or like veterans or some
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  shit. There's a movie called Combat
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  Shock. I think that's what it is.
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  I feel like that would be a good one.
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  Yeah, He comes back and he, like, starts to have like an
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  experience and he goes on like a fucking spree, OK?
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  Sounds like a fun time. Yeah, I've heard it's a great
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  movie. Not at all like Jacob's Ladder.
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  Yeah. Well, this one came first.
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  Jacob's Ladder is in the 90s, right?
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  But which one is the one everybody knows?
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  I I've never seen Jacob's Ladder, but to be fair, I've
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  never seen combat. Yeah, that was gonna be my
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  follow up. Question.
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  I guess I'm the one to decide the tiebreaker on that.
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  OK, well, we got one last tagline in the stum.
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  OK. The film that shocked America.
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  Nope, that's a false statement. OK, I've got some fun facts.
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  A lot of these came from the last drive in Marathon, but some
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  of these were just a little bit of Jessie research.
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  So this was made in rural New Jersey, specifically Cape May.
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  It was originally set in Avalon, CA, which is why we keep saying
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  Chiron's of Avalon Bay, but Joseph Zito wanted to do Cape
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  May because it's got a ghost town Quality alternate titles
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  for the movie include Pitchfork Massacre and Rosemary's Killer,
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  and its working title on set was Graduation.
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  Oh really? I like the title Graduation.
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  I think graduation would be cool too.
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  The Pitchfork massacre. I don't you I don't know if you
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  wrote down the note about that releasing.
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  Yeah, so it did release under that, but it was like a stolen
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  release, which I couldn't really get into before when I was
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  talking about the talk line. Yeah, basically.
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  So some guy just found the footage, stole it, retitled it
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  Pitchfork Massacre, and then released it that way.
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  Yeah, in theaters, and nobody found out about it until later
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  it. Was in the Carolinas.
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  Correct. Yeah, I think so.
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  I. Believe it was the.
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  Carolinas. Yeah, that sounds.
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  Right. Both of them.
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  I'm not being generic. It's both Carolinas.
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  NS Both are in the wrong here for going along with this fraud.
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  OK, so Cindy Weintraub, her skin was dyed red for three days
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  after the pool scene. Now patrons budget tier patrons.
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  Well, remember while we covered the the MTV competition series
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  Scream Queens and we talked about not Shawnee.
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  Yes, Shawnee Smith. No, it was in the second season,
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  I think. It's the girl from My Bloody
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  Valentine. Yes.
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  I can't remember her name. Yeah, Jamie something.
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  My head, said Kennedy. And.
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  My head, said Presley. Jamie Kennedy Presley.
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  But she had them do a pool scene where they were in like, blood,
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  blood, and she had them cover themselves in Vaseline so that
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  way their skin wouldn't get dyed.
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  Yeah, Clearly this trick was not around when Cindy Weintraub was
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  filming the scene. That's on Sloveni.
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  Yeah, that's. Yeah, Sloveni was really.
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  No, that's fine. You're cool.
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  You're cool. That's fine.
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  That's fine. Let's see, I already talked
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  about the band. Nowhere Fast.
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  I had that written down here as well.
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  And then finally, I have some of the filming locations in Cape
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  May. So we have the Inn at Cape May.
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  That's where the dance scenes were shot.
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  Emlon Physic Estate is the Chatham House and that includes
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  the exterior and interior. Really.
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  Well, that's a big house. Yes, well, it's an estate.
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  Yeah, it's a big estate. Nobody's going to call our house
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  an estate. You know what I mean?
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  The Chatham House? That's an estate.
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  I want to start doing that just so I get people's expectations
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  set up. No, I remember.
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  So hey guys, I'm. I love HGTVI.
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  Have gotten Travis to learn to love HGTV as well.
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  One of the shows that I tend to love a lot more than him is my
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  lottery dream home. And it drives him absolutely
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  crazy that all of the estates are named.
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  So he was like, I'm gonna name our house.
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  We came up with one too, where we were gonna use the it's like
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  Sawtooth Hill or Gap or something like that from Super
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  Play Camp 3. Oh yeah, we were, weren't we?
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  OK. And then finally, the Chalfont.
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  Sorry about my French hotel was used for the dorms.
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  OK, cool. So that's just a little bit of
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  fun factoids about the Prowler. I think that means that we're
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  ready to get into our good bed, ugly and absurd.
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  OK. Go ahead and kick us off,
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  Travis. All right, well, I'll go ahead
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  and say the obvious one first. And having Savini on the film
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  did wonders for it. Hell yeah.
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  The kills really make this movie go.
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  It really kind of makes it worth watching in the 1st place.
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  And God damn some of these kills are like brutal as fuck.
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  And this is before he did his Friday the 13th part 4.
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  But after. So him and Zito get to work
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  again. Yeah.
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  And this is like the year after his first one work.
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  Together again, obviously they both work.
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  Together. Yeah, But yeah, man, the kills
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  are amazing in this. I liked the effect with, I can't
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  remember the guy, but he's the guy that gets killed in the
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  shower with Sherry. Yeah, I love how they make his
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  eyes white. I felt like that was like a nice
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  touch and it just made the scene play out a little bit more
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  creepy. Yeah, kind of like a bit, yeah.
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  Like his eyes were rolled all the way up.
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  Except they definitely weren't. It was definitely white out
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  contact. Yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, and then him. Just like, oh shit, he's moving
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  a little bit. It gave me very like pieces
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  vibes. Yeah, kind of.
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  Yeah, I get. I get that.
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  Yeah. I also thought the setting was
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  really cool. So I think you get to college,
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  you get a, let's see, I wrote a bunch of things here.
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  You get college, you get dance party, you get military
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  location, you get small town, you get a cemetery.
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  There's a lot of cool places this movie goes.
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  And a lot of it's like a lot of lingering, like wandering
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  around, but I think it's still kind of cool.
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  Like there, those are places that have pretty good
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  atmospheres for a horror movie and I think that they took
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  pretty good advantage of it. OK, yeah.
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  And final thing is that Rock Band.
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  Fucking Rock Band. Nowhere fast.
• 19:12
  Nowhere fast is so good. They have like legit jams in
• 19:15
  here and. Listen, nowhere fast gets
• 19:18
  announced at the borough. I'm buying US tickets.
• 19:20
  Right dude, If they still if they are still active, I would
• 19:24
  shit my pants if I found them like that would be amazing.
• 19:27
  I would love to go watch them. I can't believe they didn't get
• 19:29
  big. I know they were.
• 19:31
  They were fun. I liked their vibes.
• 19:33
  Yeah, for sure. The music was pretty catchy.
• 19:35
  All right. That's my good.
• 19:36
  What did you have? Basically a lot of the same.
• 19:39
  The effects, Sabini. I mean, that's all you need to
• 19:43
  know. They're they're brutal.
• 19:46
  We linger on them. That's always fun.
• 19:49
  The setting, I'm never gonna be mad about such a, like an
• 19:52
  enclosed location, like what we have here.
• 19:55
  And I do like that the dance is kind of a main thing throughout
• 19:58
  the whole thing, and not in a way that, like, say, prom night
• 20:01
  is. We're like, Oh yeah, we're.
• 20:04
  Our events are revolving around prom night.
• 20:08
  Yeah, but this is like actually all the night of the graduation
• 20:12
  ball. And I'd say at least a third to
• 20:15
  40% of it is taking place at the ball.
• 20:17
  Yeah, for sure. That's nice.
• 20:20
  I also really like Pam's dress, the first one.
• 20:26
  Before he gets the punch on it. Yes.
• 20:28
  And then what else was I gonna say?
• 20:32
  There was something else. I don't remember what else.
• 20:35
  Yeah. So I I think it's a decent
• 20:40
  little flick. I'll play off some of that for
• 20:42
  the bad then. I think it would have been cool
• 20:44
  for them to take more advantage of the dance being there, where
• 20:48
  they they announce that a prower is on the premise and they walk
• 20:52
  them all in there. I think it would have been
• 20:54
  really interesting to see them all walked in that dance hall
• 20:59
  and like that building have to navigate the Prowler being
• 21:02
  there. I remember what my other GIF was
• 21:04
  going to be. Oh, what?
• 21:05
  At the beginning where they drop all of those names and those end
• 21:08
  up like connecting to characters and yeah, one.
• 21:12
  Be other some smart writing for. That yeah, I thought that was
• 21:14
  really interesting. And luckily I remembered enough
• 21:17
  about them maybe because I was like, oh God, I can't write down
• 21:19
  all of these names. And I was like, it's not
• 21:21
  ultimately, yeah, so. So I thought that was like fun
• 21:26
  bit of like seed planting at the beginning.
• 21:28
  Yeah, they did a good job. They laid the groundwork and it
• 21:31
  paid off. Yeah, yeah, OK.
• 21:33
  Other than what I said, bad, I think it can drag at times.
• 21:38
  There are a lot of times where the movie kind of slows down a
• 21:41
  lot. I think a faster pace would have
• 21:43
  really helped this movie if it just kept going and going.
• 21:47
  They need This is the type of movie that needs more can and
• 21:50
  fodder. Yeah, exactly.
• 21:52
  And they had plenty. They had plenty to work with
• 21:54
  there. But I'm wondering after you told
• 21:56
  me the budget, if that was a major.
• 21:58
  I feel like it was probably also that a lot of those people, I'd
• 22:01
  say the dance were like day players or background or
• 22:05
  whatever. So they weren't going to rig
• 22:07
  them up for all of the special effects necessary.
• 22:11
  Because that's not just like the added cost of like the effects,
• 22:15
  you know materials, but also like having these people on set
• 22:20
  for longer and. Everything.
• 22:21
  Yeah, for sure. That's true.
• 22:22
  Yeah, I'm sure like a money issue is kind of the root of
• 22:26
  that. So that was my bad mostly.
• 22:28
  OK, Yeah, I saw something and I don't remember if this is one of
• 22:33
  the reviews I pulled, but where it has kind of a when a stranger
• 22:38
  calls effect where like the opening's really strong and the
• 22:42
  end's really strong and in the middle you can just tune out
• 22:44
  completely and it really doesn't, yeah, make a
• 22:47
  difference. Yeah.
• 22:49
  I don't think that's great that like, you can skip the middle of
• 22:53
  the movie and not be surprised by the ending.
• 22:57
  You know, like you were saying earlier about that movie about
• 23:01
  the police procedural part being something that would interest
• 23:04
  me. There's a lot of that that goes
• 23:05
  on in this movie too, but the police work is so non like it's
• 23:10
  such a nun. Because it's Mark London abusing
• 23:13
  his girlfriend while also taking her assistance and not following
• 23:18
  any kind of police procedure. It's kind of funny because he
• 23:21
  really sucks. Yeah, he should not have been
• 23:23
  left in charge. Which is funny.
• 23:24
  Like, if you really think about it like that, like, hey, we're
• 23:26
  about to watch this guy. I don't need this incompetent,
• 23:30
  handsome, squidward ass man, I thought.
• 23:32
  About the Squidward face too. Oh my God, I'm so glad you said
• 23:36
  that. He has the he has the bone
• 23:39
  structure of that, Yeah. I mean, he's got very pretty
• 23:42
  bone structure. It's just, I don't know, he's
• 23:45
  almost like too pretty to take seriously in this role.
• 23:48
  He Joe Bob mentioned that he went on to direct 2000.
• 23:53
  I think it was 2000 episodes of a soap opera and this guy
• 23:57
  definitely has the soap. Opera face, yeah.
• 23:59
  Yeah, like just he was born for that shit right there.
• 24:03
  Like he got into film and then, like the gravity of the soap
• 24:06
  opera, pulled. Like man you two you 2 pretty
• 24:10
  for in place like this and. The funny thing is like I liked
• 24:14
  seeing him, like even with our Wolfi like streaming on shutter
• 24:19
  like at 7:20 Pi could see the dudes frizzy fucking hair.
• 24:23
  Yeah, it drove me crazy. Yeah, that man needs to learn
• 24:27
  the curly girl method cuz I bet he's got some beautiful waves in
• 24:30
  there. Yeah, I thought it was really
• 24:31
  weird. I was like, dude, your hair
• 24:32
  looks really fucking weird right now.
• 24:34
  Like, it does not look natural. Ever.
• 24:36
  No, that's not a problem for anybody else here.
• 24:38
  But then again, I'm like, you know what?
• 24:40
  That's why he's sussing to be a part of a soap opera.
• 24:42
  Cuz he's got the helmet head. He's.
• 24:44
  Got the helmet head, he's got the bone structure and he's not
• 24:47
  a good cop, so he shouldn't be doing that.
• 24:48
  No, absolutely not. Except.
• 24:51
  But unfortunately, that is what the town of Avalon Bay is left
• 24:53
  with. Well, lucky for the town, they
• 24:56
  had Pam there because she kind of helps steer him in the right
• 24:59
  direction. I love how it's almost like Jalo
• 25:02
  Esque, because it's like the detective and it's also the
• 25:06
  local journalist, because that's why.
• 25:08
  She is a journalist. You know what?
• 25:09
  You're right. I didn't even think about that.
• 25:11
  Huh. OK.
• 25:12
  OK. Ugly.
• 25:14
  Or did you say bad? No, I was talking along with you
• 25:18
  with the dads. OK, so.
• 25:20
  We're just gonna count that. Yeah.
• 25:21
  OK, Well, then ugly. I thought the whole thing with
• 25:26
  Chatham being like a handsy boy was kind of.
• 25:30
  Yeah, they're way too cash about it.
• 25:33
  Isn't he the one that grabs the girl in the opening too?
• 25:37
  He's no, that's no, that's Jimmy Turner.
• 25:39
  Oh, I thought that they were laying the ground.
• 25:40
  Where? Who is allowed to be a professor
• 25:45
  or administrator at the school 30 years later?
• 25:50
  Is he the old guy? There, yes, Mr. Turner.
• 25:53
  And he's the guy that also watches some fuck in the
• 25:56
  basement. Yep.
• 25:57
  He yeah. He just kind.
• 25:59
  Of that's such a nothing scene. Instead of the murder down there
• 26:02
  which is what we're all exciting.
• 26:03
  I was going to be slightly and like I was like is this
• 26:05
  motherfucker really going back and forth between these
• 26:07
  locations just to do some killing But whatever.
• 26:09
  We need to kill right now. No.
• 26:11
  And so we're just going to watch Mr. Turner stick his hand down
• 26:13
  his pants and. Yeah, that was so weird.
• 26:15
  Why and? It didn't even cut to any of
• 26:19
  them after the fact. Be there.
• 26:20
  It's just like and this man watch some fuck.
• 26:23
  That's it. Watch some fuck.
• 26:26
  Yeah, OK. All right.
• 26:28
  What about you? OK, well you touched upon a lot
• 26:30
  of the really good uglies here. I've got 2 less serious uglies
• 26:35
  just to mix it up some. OK, one is Pam's second dress.
• 26:40
  It's such a downgrade. I hate it.
• 26:42
  Well, I felt like that was more of like a casual dress.
• 26:44
  She had no other option. The color was very lovely on
• 26:47
  her, but the cut and style of it just didn't.
• 26:50
  It's the blue dress. Right, yeah, yeah.
• 26:53
  And then the other would be the boyfriend.
• 26:56
  What's his name? Not Karl.
• 26:58
  Mark. John Paul.
• 27:00
  Yes, one of those biblical names.
• 27:04
  When he's in the bathroom puking his guts out, he's like fully
• 27:07
  laid out on the floor of that bathroom.
• 27:09
  And you know that it's just gross.
• 27:12
  There's definitely grime and probably some pee pee.
• 27:16
  There's definitely pee pee. People don't know how to pee
• 27:19
  properly in public. I think that once people go in
• 27:22
  public, they like. I feel like that's where they
• 27:25
  like like this is my time to experiment.
• 27:27
  I said it before and I'll say it again.
• 27:29
  I do not know why there's so many adults on God's green earth
• 27:32
  that will not flush the toilet for themselves.
• 27:34
  I guarantee they don't leave their shit simmer in in their
• 27:37
  own homes. Some people are like I.
• 27:38
  Don't know. It's so weird.
• 27:40
  Yeah, I I can't. I can't with it.
• 27:43
  Okay. Absurd.
• 27:47
  MY1 absurd that I have for this movie.
• 27:48
  Is that Sherry's in the shower for the entire movie.
• 27:52
  Nobody questions it. I.
• 27:53
  Know it's so. Funny.
• 27:56
  I love how whenever she leaves to go to the dance and like an
• 28:01
  hour later she returns and the water's still running.
• 28:03
  Entire cake has been. Served a new bowl of punch has
• 28:06
  been set out and then spilled on her.
• 28:09
  Her boyfriend has danced with another woman.
• 28:11
  Yeah, And she comes back and Sherry's still in the fucking
• 28:15
  shower and she's like, she's. She's just like, I'm gonna close
• 28:17
  the door. Keep going.
• 28:19
  Sherry, you got this. You're not even gonna check.
• 28:22
  On her I'm sure you girls were pre gaming while you're getting
• 28:25
  ready. Yeah, and that's what.
• 28:27
  College girls. Do.
• 28:28
  The funny thing is though. Sherry being in the shower for
• 28:30
  the entire movie isn't an exaggeration, 'cause she dies in
• 28:33
  the shower, Yeah, and she stays there until the very end, where
• 28:35
  we see her at the very end of the movie.
• 28:39
  It's just so fucking crazy. I'm.
• 28:42
  Gonna do the absurd of the pitchfork going between two
• 28:46
  people at the beginning of the movie.
• 28:47
  OK, Joe Bob had a point and I would have figured out this
• 28:52
  point without him pointing it out.
• 28:53
  But I also need to acknowledge that he said this because the
• 28:57
  the prongs, tongs, prongs, whatever they're called on a
• 29:01
  pitchfork. I already said prongs once,
• 29:03
  didn't I? Anyway, tings that's they're
• 29:05
  called on a pong Tong Ting. That's a it's a Ting.
• 29:08
  On a fork. Fork, right?
• 29:09
  I don't know. I just thought.
• 29:11
  Like on a pitchfork it would be. Spikes.
• 29:13
  So yeah. Anyway, they're about the width
• 29:16
  of the man's torso, so how are they also gonna spear Rosemary?
• 29:21
  Hmm. Yeah, I feel like you can maybe
• 29:24
  get a good cut in honor, but you're not gonna, like double
• 29:29
  penetrate both of them there like it's it's not gonna happen.
• 29:32
  How dare you say double? Penetrate on my podcast.
• 29:37
  ADP Director of Photography Them OK?
• 29:41
  So all that said and done, what are you rating those Travis at
• 29:46
  the end of the? Day.
• 29:47
  I still think that this is a pretty fun slasher from the 80s.
• 29:50
  I have a good time with some really fun kills, so I'd say I'd
• 29:53
  give this thing a solid 7, OK? I am most surprised by this for
• 29:59
  myself that I'm gonna give it a 60, 'cause I thought I
• 30:04
  remembered liking this a lot more the first time I saw it,
• 30:07
  which is when we were watching last drive in Marathon.
• 30:09
  Yeah. However, I do think it's
• 30:11
  important to acknowledge that this was over halfway through
• 30:13
  the night, and perhaps that skews my opinion on it a wee
• 30:18
  little bit. I feel like this is also.
• 30:20
  One that you can easily casually watch, but when you're having to
• 30:23
  pay attention and take notes for a podcast, nothing to take notes
• 30:27
  on. Yeah, then that's.
• 30:28
  When you kind of can see some of the flaws and yeah, that right
• 30:32
  there for sure, yeah so. We're we're starting with a 6
• 30:35
  1/2. OK, that's not.
• 30:36
  Terrible. That's.
• 30:38
  That's better than IMDb. Still, we're still kind of true
• 30:41
  to ourselves with that, yes. We will always be better than
• 30:45
  IMDb. Suck in IMDb, OK, we start off
• 30:50
  with some news footage of the Queen Mary bringing home about
• 30:53
  15,000 Fets of World War Two. They are crammed in there dude,
• 30:59
  and I feel. Like that was definitely like
• 31:01
  actual archival footage of them returning.
• 31:04
  And it is insane that there was that many people on this ship so
• 31:08
  stressful to give. Me claustrophobia.
• 31:09
  Thinking about like well, then also thinking.
• 31:12
  About like them leaving and they're so excited to leave that
• 31:17
  they're willing to be crammed in there like that.
• 31:19
  I know, right? It's so fucked up.
• 31:22
  What's also? Fucked Up is the voiceover
• 31:24
  person for this archival footage talking about these vets coming
• 31:28
  home, And many of them are excited to say they're
• 31:30
  sweethearts, but some of them have received a Dear John, but
• 31:36
  dear. John, that's all about, like,
• 31:38
  women breaking up with them, their husbands or boyfriends
• 31:42
  overseas, right? Yep.
• 31:43
  OK, that's what I thought. Yep, it's a letter.
• 31:45
  Just basically saying I can't do this.
• 31:47
  No Mow, Dear John. Bye.
• 31:51
  Yeah, so. We get that we get a letter from
• 31:54
  March 12th, 1944. It is from Rosemary who is
• 31:59
  telling John We assume, yeah, that she can't do it anymore.
• 32:04
  She's like, I hope you understand.
• 32:06
  You get it right. I did not know you.
• 32:08
  Would be gone this long. I am 19.
• 32:11
  This is a lot I didn't think. That there was an actual war
• 32:15
  going on. I just.
• 32:16
  I thought you were just joking when you said I've heard about
• 32:19
  what the? Nazis are doing that.
• 32:21
  Shit's fucked up. Thank you for your service.
• 32:23
  But like, holy shit. I just can't.
• 32:25
  I I can't. I can't do this.
• 32:27
  The worst part is like. At the end, she's like, yeah,
• 32:30
  and you know, maybe we can be friends whenever you come back.
• 32:32
  Like what? Once again, I must.
• 32:34
  Ask why are all of our prom movies coming back to World War
• 32:38
  Two? Oh my God, they.
• 32:40
  Are at least this one didn't have like this one had every
• 32:43
  right to actually bring up some Hitler stuff and it didn't.
• 32:45
  So I respect that. Take notes.
• 32:48
  Witchcraft. You don't have to talk about
• 32:50
  Hitler that much. Take notes.
• 32:52
  Other films for this also because we see Rosemary writing
• 32:55
  like we see the letter. Yeah, right.
• 32:58
  And her signature at the end, the beautiful little flowy
• 33:01
  Rosemary fades out and we fade onto the dance hall and the way
• 33:07
  the lights are like strung up match her signature.
• 33:11
  It's a really cool cross fade. I wouldn't.
• 33:14
  They must have sketched over it. They must have had the shot and
• 33:18
  then recorded that afterwards and then like actually did the
• 33:21
  signature to match that. That's really cool.
• 33:23
  Yeah, it was a really. Really neat shot.
• 33:27
  Oh, I love. Some nice transition shots like
• 33:29
  that so we get. Rosemary and her date, and
• 33:33
  they're just gossiping and whatnot as they kind of they
• 33:36
  they're throwing out so many names it's like impossible to
• 33:38
  keep track, yeah. They.
• 33:41
  I I. Does it just mean or did they
• 33:43
  have like the classic 1940s fifties speech, like the way
• 33:49
  that they talked on television back then when they were
• 33:52
  delivering Reliance here? They sounded to me like they
• 33:55
  were. Actually, true to that era, I
• 33:58
  have no clue. You know what I'm talking.
• 34:00
  About that sound right talking about?
• 34:02
  But I don't know how true that stuff is.
• 34:04
  You know what I mean? No, I know.
• 34:06
  I just. Feel like, maybe like the actors
• 34:08
  were like, OK, we're in the 50s. Let's like, pretend like we're
• 34:10
  in the 50s, except that it's the 40s, but whatever, so.
• 34:14
  Rosemary and Roy are already about to leave because Roy is
• 34:22
  horny. Yeah, that's basically it.
• 34:25
  Oh my God, yeah. Is Roy.
• 34:29
  Edward Cullen This is a total Edward Cullen move.
• 34:33
  Like, let's leave the dance and go out to the gazebo.
• 34:36
  Well, first. Off.
• 34:37
  We'll have to take the footage, pause, zoom in, enhance, squint,
• 34:43
  and see how spiky his hair is. You have to enhance a couple.
• 34:47
  Of times before you can squint. Enhance.
• 34:50
  Now squint. It's one of my favorite things.
• 34:53
  Yeah, it really like if he's got spiky hair.
• 34:55
  This is Edward Cullen. Yeah.
• 34:59
  So they're out there at the gazebo and she's like, we can't
• 35:03
  do this in public. He's like, you don't even have
• 35:05
  to take your clothes off. It's like there's this.
• 35:08
  New method. It's like, yeah, you're soaking.
• 35:11
  We don't have to. We don't have to get naked.
• 35:13
  Yeah, God's soaking, dude. Yeah, I had a Mormon dance right
• 35:19
  here or something. I mean, maybe.
• 35:21
  You talking about? I talked about DP in the scene.
• 35:24
  You're talking about soaking. We're not.
• 35:26
  You're not. You and I.
• 35:27
  We're not too different. Soaking so loud.
• 35:30
  Under the eyes of God I. Don't know about that.
• 35:35
  Not Sexon. Yeah, we're not really.
• 35:38
  Penetrating here. Yeah.
• 35:40
  Yeah. OK, Wow.
• 35:41
  Let's just, yeah, let's move on from.
• 35:43
  That anyway, they're they're kebabbed together.
• 35:46
  Yeah, yeah. That's all we need to know.
• 35:49
  Yeah, you get a guy, he's. In his full on army fatigues and
• 35:52
  he just takes a pitch fork and get some, get some both at the
• 35:55
  same time and then he lays a. Rose across them and then we get
• 35:59
  a tap a. Card at the Prowler, yeah.
• 36:02
  So Avalon Bay June 28th, 1980, prepping for the graduation
• 36:06
  ball. This is all a single Chiron so
• 36:10
  they haven't had the graduation ball since 1945 due to Major
• 36:15
  Chatham. He You know that.
• 36:18
  Was his daughter. That died.
• 36:21
  And then yeah, 'cause that was Rosemary Chatham.
• 36:23
  Oh, that's why they make him a. Red herring in this, Yes.
• 36:25
  Got it. Yeah, it's.
• 36:27
  Still pretty. Bad and then?
• 36:29
  He had a stroke. I'm not sure if that's related
• 36:32
  to the murder or not. But, you know, it's also an
• 36:35
  important thing to note here because they didn't have to give
• 36:39
  Lawrence Tyranny any dialogue. Yeah, I'm.
• 36:43
  I'm not familiar with the dude, but the way that Joe Bob was
• 36:45
  talking about him, he's apparently a terrible person to
• 36:48
  have on set because he just gets drunk and forgets his mind.
• 36:50
  Yep, seems like it's probably. Easier for him to have a non
• 36:53
  speaking role. Why It's?
• 36:54
  Probably easier to not even have her, yeah, especially in a non
• 36:58
  important role like this one I guess.
• 37:01
  Maybe like having a name makes the red herring a little bit
• 37:04
  more believable. It's the thing, the thought
• 37:07
  process behind them, yes? Yeah.
• 37:10
  Anyway, he lives in the house that he had lived in with his
• 37:13
  family when the rest of them are still alive, and now it's just
• 37:16
  him in his wheelchair and lots of stairs leading to furniture
• 37:19
  upstairs covered in sheets because he can't get up there.
• 37:24
  And he's also. Like I want to know.
• 37:27
  Who came in and covered all of his furniture, but isn't like
• 37:30
  helping him with his Adls and whatnot.
• 37:33
  Yeah, you know what? What is the point of even doing
• 37:35
  that? Like nobody is really
• 37:36
  appreciating that is the VA. Sending any kind of assistance
• 37:40
  to him at any point. Maybe a deputy or sheriff George
• 37:43
  is sending Mike. What's his name?
• 37:47
  Otto the Creepy. Guy.
• 37:48
  Yeah, Otto. Otto up there to do it.
• 37:51
  Also, He's also just like creepy.
• 37:54
  Sitting at the window watching everybody all day.
• 37:57
  He watches. The girls dormitory and watches
• 38:00
  them change watching some fuck, I don't know why, I've been
• 38:04
  saying. That, but you know, it's a fun
• 38:05
  way to, say watching sex you. Remind me of that one video of
• 38:10
  the bird that's like, hey, hey, want some?
• 38:12
  Fuck that was that, yeah. It's probably inspired by that,
• 38:15
  like, deep in my head right there.
• 38:18
  OK, so let's see the sheriff. He can't be here tonight, 'cause
• 38:25
  he needs to go fishing. Yeah, that's just his thing,
• 38:29
  man. He's gonna go fish.
• 38:32
  Otherwise, it's not truly spring.
• 38:34
  Never mind the fact that it's June 28th.
• 38:36
  It's not spring if he doesn't go fishing.
• 38:40
  It's funny, he. Like, OK, what's the What's the
• 38:43
  main dudes here? Or the deputy?
• 38:46
  What's his name again? London.
• 38:48
  What's? His first name?
• 38:49
  Mark. OK, it's funny he didn't get a
• 38:51
  first name in my. Notes he didn't wait the fuck
• 38:53
  out of me and seen. One so he's been.
• 38:55
  London the whole time. It's hilarious.
• 38:57
  That like, he comes into the the station and the sheriff is like,
• 39:04
  all right, I got to go do my fishing trip.
• 39:06
  You know, this is my time. I got to be off.
• 39:08
  By the way, there's a guy. Killed a guy up north, probably
• 39:11
  heading this direction. Sorry, son, I got to go.
• 39:14
  Yeah. He's just like you're in charge
• 39:16
  of this now. And yeah, I think Mark is kind
• 39:20
  of less than enthusiastic about the idea of having to do with
• 39:23
  that. Why are there only?
• 39:24
  Two of us in this whole. Town and like it definitely
• 39:27
  feels like a small town, but even a small town you have to
• 39:30
  have. More than two?
• 39:31
  You do, Yeah. You you definitely need more
• 39:34
  than two night shifts. Mark.
• 39:37
  But he's there at the day too. Exactly.
• 39:40
  You know, his job is to do this and they hit on the students at
• 39:44
  the college pretty much. Pam asks London to come by the
• 39:48
  dance. You know, if he's got time
• 39:51
  during his busy patrol, 90% of the town's going to be at the
• 39:54
  dance. So this seems like a reasonable
• 39:56
  request, yes? And he says he will be there.
• 40:00
  He is worried about the robbery and stabbing up north, but you
• 40:04
  know, it's probably fine. And she goes plus my article and
• 40:07
  he goes, mm hmm. Yep.
• 40:09
  Yeah, Yep, I read it for. Sure.
• 40:11
  I read more than the headline. So the sheriff makes money and
• 40:16
  come with him to the convenience store.
• 40:17
  It's Kingsley's convenience store.
• 40:20
  And Kingsley is talking to Otto about the majors, like grocery
• 40:24
  delivery. So I guess that's at least set
• 40:26
  up for him. Yeah.
• 40:27
  So that's nice. And then they again talking
• 40:32
  about how he's always watching the girls.
• 40:34
  It's they're way too cash about this.
• 40:36
  Yeah, it is kind of weird. How everybody just accepts it?
• 40:39
  Like if you're putting a sheet over everything, why don't you
• 40:42
  put a sheet over him? But then he'd look like a ghost
• 40:45
  up there. It's night time now.
• 40:49
  He's put a sheet over and you know, like he's not doing
• 40:52
  anything other than like than filling people up when he gets
• 40:56
  the chance. And he's even doing that badly.
• 40:58
  Because he just grabs Pam's arm. Yeah, I know, right?
• 41:00
  Yeah, he's. Terrible.
• 41:02
  OK, so. Pam is telling Sherry that she's
• 41:05
  worried about London, she's worried about the relationship,
• 41:07
  she's worried about the killer and she's worried about the past
• 41:10
  tense killer. So there's like there's a lot of
• 41:12
  that. Pam is just worried and Sherry
• 41:15
  is like, hey, I'm gonna shower. Yeah, I'm really worried about
• 41:19
  being. Queen.
• 41:20
  So Pam's like, OK, bye. And she just fucks off in the
• 41:24
  shower. Yeah, and it's like everybody.
• 41:26
  Else is like putting on their shoes and jewelry.
• 41:29
  That's how ready they are. And Sherry's like, I'm getting
• 41:33
  in the shower and Pam's like, I'll wait for you if you're fast
• 41:37
  and Sherry's like, don't. Yeah, you know, battery.
• 41:40
  Yeah. Also, Lisa flashes Chatham from
• 41:44
  across the She's also way too cash.
• 41:47
  Although this is kind of believable because I've seen
• 41:50
  dumb girl shit like this, so that's yeah for sure.
• 41:55
  So they're all leaving except for Sherry.
• 41:59
  And Carl comes to pick up Sherry and then he's like, oh hey,
• 42:02
  you're naked. And she's like, oh hey, do you
• 42:03
  want to be naked? And he said, hell yeah, I do.
• 42:05
  So he goes to get naked, except then he gets stabbed through the
• 42:09
  head and his. Face.
• 42:12
  Gets a little squishy in the process, too.
• 42:14
  This is my favorite I. Think of the movie because he
• 42:18
  takes the knife stabs from the top of his head, it comes out
• 42:21
  from the bottom of his chin and he's still alive and he's like
• 42:26
  kind of grasping at him and his eyes go all white and he's just
• 42:29
  struggling and it's so fucking effective.
• 42:31
  Yeah, it's such a nice looking kill.
• 42:34
  He takes his sword. Back.
• 42:35
  And then he picks up his pitchfork and stabs Sherry in
• 42:39
  the shower. Mm hmm.
• 42:41
  And also worth. Mentioning for Savini here, he
• 42:44
  is doing all the killing, he's playing the Prowler and all of
• 42:47
  these things. He is the Prowler.
• 42:49
  Yeah, he kind of does that in all of.
• 42:50
  His movies, Yeah. So, like, because he as the
• 42:54
  secial effects guy, he knows exactly where to hit to get the
• 42:56
  right parts yet. Which that makes sense.
• 42:58
  Yeah. Makes sure you have.
• 42:58
  Sense to do so at the dance, they're serving cake and some
• 43:03
  punch. Pam sees London come in and she
• 43:07
  like waves above her. She's real excited about it.
• 43:09
  And then some other girl I think is Lisa.
• 43:13
  Yeah, grabs him. For a dance and.
• 43:14
  He's just like what you gotta do.
• 43:16
  This is the thing that I remember the most.
• 43:18
  From this movie, anytime I think of the prower.
• 43:20
  Do I think of the killer? No, no.
• 43:21
  I think of this scene. I think of this.
• 43:23
  Scene I because. It's so funny whenever he walks
• 43:25
  in there and another girl gets him and then he looks at at Pam
• 43:30
  like, what can I do my supposed? And he's not like he's.
• 43:34
  Not half heartedly dancing. He goes over there and he gives
• 43:37
  it his all like he's over there, like full ongoing.
• 43:40
  And she even, it's kind of like, I think she's acting play like
• 43:43
  play drunk on him, like stumbling on him on purpose or
• 43:46
  on purpose to try and like get some contact.
• 43:49
  Yeah, I don't know what she's. Doing I think this might be a
• 43:52
  frenemy situation between Pam and Lisa because when he finally
• 43:56
  makes his way over to the punch table, Lisa bumps into him.
• 43:59
  So that way he spills punch onto Pam's pretty dress and she's
• 44:03
  like, cool, I'm gonna go get changed and he's like, boy.
• 44:06
  Yeah, and also during this, while she was watching him,
• 44:10
  Buggy Paul went over there and spiked the punch bowl.
• 44:13
  So, like, a lot. Like.
• 44:15
  Like a whole fucking. Flask it's.
• 44:17
  It wasn't a flask, it was a bottle.
• 44:19
  So like a whole shit of. Vodka.
• 44:21
  Yeah, it. Was insane.
• 44:23
  So she. Goes to the dorm to change.
• 44:25
  The water is still running. As we've said, the band has
• 44:28
  already taken their first break and come back from it at this
• 44:31
  point. You know what I mean?
• 44:32
  Like there's no That water's got to be cold.
• 44:35
  Yeah, but it's still steamy in there.
• 44:38
  Yes. Spoiler.
• 44:40
  Alert for the end. And I wish I'd remembered this
• 44:43
  when talking about the absurd, but the water the next morning
• 44:47
  is still steamy. I wonder if it's because of.
• 44:50
  Their like water heater. Whenever they're in a whole
• 44:54
  dorm, it still doesn't. There's no way still.
• 44:56
  Maybe. I don't know.
• 44:57
  Think. About Think about our dorms.
• 45:00
  I never took. A long enough shower to wear
• 45:03
  those would get they never got that warm.
• 45:05
  Either it never got steamy. Yeah, that's true.
• 45:09
  Well, so anyway, she. Downgrades her dress.
• 45:13
  It's a shame she doesn't see the bloody puddle leftover from Carl
• 45:19
  and said she just drops her dress on it.
• 45:21
  I guess maybe she looked over there and she goes, man, that
• 45:23
  punch, I just really soaked it up like towel.
• 45:25
  Yeah, so. She.
• 45:27
  Changes and she starts to leave. And as she's walking out she
• 45:32
  hears footsteps and then when she looks she sees the prowler.
• 45:38
  She calls for help and she's like beaten on different doors.
• 45:42
  But everybody's at the dance, so she goes to 1 exit and it's
• 45:45
  stuck and you think that she's done for her because the
• 45:48
  prowler's right there. Hidden hallway, hidden hallway.
• 45:53
  She runs. Through that.
• 45:55
  The Prowler isn't even really giving.
• 45:56
  Much chase here either. And also right after that we get
• 46:00
  a very Halloween type scene here where she's at like the glass
• 46:04
  door and the prowers, like approaching the hall, kind of
• 46:07
  like Michael when he's getting into the bathroom or the
• 46:09
  washroom or whatever. And she like busts out the
• 46:12
  window and gets out and goes down the stairs.
• 46:14
  Yeah, to a Chatham just in his wheelchair next to the building
• 46:18
  for God knows why. And he grabs her arm and she's
• 46:22
  like. You need to let me go.
• 46:24
  Please let me go. Please let me go.
• 46:26
  Eventually she just takes off her little shawl thing and
• 46:29
  leaves her purse behind, because that's the only way she can get
• 46:33
  free from this man's grip, I and she.
• 46:37
  Runs into. London, who I'm gonna say took
• 46:42
  too long to realize that he should follow her because easily
• 46:46
  1520 minutes have passed before he's like, is my girlfriend mad
• 46:51
  at me? I feel like any time you.
• 46:53
  Tried to leave like somebody pulled him to the dentist.
• 46:55
  Like, I gotta do it. OK, one more song.
• 46:59
  All right, let's go. Oh, shit.
• 47:00
  Here I go again. He's the original party cop.
• 47:03
  Oh my God, he is. Yeah, this is probably Party
• 47:06
  Cops favorite movie. That's why he wanted to get into
• 47:08
  being a cop. And I want to have cheekbones.
• 47:11
  Like Squidward and I want to be down, dude, that's totally.
• 47:15
  His inspiration? So Wanden goes to investigate to
• 47:21
  see what's going down. He finds her purse there and he
• 47:24
  finds wheelchair Marks and boot prints.
• 47:27
  Found wheelchair tracks. And boot tracks it's.
• 47:34
  Get detective work there, buddy. You you're doing it.
• 47:36
  Good job. And then she says.
• 47:39
  Did you check the dorm room? And he's like, no, didn't think
• 47:44
  about that. And she was like, OK, yeah,
• 47:47
  well, 'cause, you know, my friends are still in there.
• 47:49
  Sherry's in there for sure, Probably Carl.
• 47:51
  They're like bunnies. So he goes in, the room is
• 47:56
  locked. He does not question this.
• 47:59
  So then they decide that they're gonna go to Chatham's and they
• 48:02
  just break in. It's just a casual little
• 48:05
  Vienni, 'cause he he's not answering the.
• 48:06
  Door. So they're like, all right,
• 48:08
  let's go run back to see if they find him.
• 48:10
  He's not here. OK, let's just check for
• 48:12
  wheelchair tracks. You don't see if you, like, roll
• 48:15
  it out of that place, you know what I mean?
• 48:16
  It'll roll it back up to it. But no, they're like, yeah,
• 48:19
  let's break in, let's go wandering around.
• 48:20
  Yeah, let's look at pictures of his.
• 48:22
  Dead daughter and see all the roses he keeps around.
• 48:25
  This is in no way morbid swear. There's like a rose pressed in a
• 48:30
  photo album, and his daughter's name is revealed as Francis
• 48:34
  Rosemary Rose Chatham. So the Rose was symbolic.
• 48:38
  It wasn't just a killer's calling card, yeah.
• 48:42
  The whole thing was just Rose. Yeah, and she sees all this.
• 48:45
  Stuff. And she thinks, OK, well maybe,
• 48:47
  like, you know, the killer is still around and he's gonna be
• 48:50
  here and he's the one that did that, like, and London is like,
• 48:53
  what the fuck are you talking? About She goes my article that
• 48:54
  you said was really good. Remember that He's like, Oh
• 48:58
  yeah. Yeah.
• 49:00
  Yeah, so Paul is throwing up in the bathroom and Lisa tells him
• 49:05
  that she's gonna go swim in Garner's pool and if he can get
• 49:09
  his shit together, he can join her.
• 49:11
  I don't blame her for being mad. She he lost.
• 49:14
  She lost her date 'cause he got too drunk.
• 49:16
  I think we talked about this in another one of our movies.
• 49:21
  It was prom night too. Oh.
• 49:22
  Yeah, because of her prom day got too fucked up too and it
• 49:25
  ruined the night for her. Exactly.
• 49:27
  Yeah. So Mark and Pam, they warned
• 49:32
  them at the dance that a prowers on the scene.
• 49:34
  So yeah, so Miss Alice says that.
• 49:36
  She's basically, she locks down the dance.
• 49:40
  She's like, guys, don't panic, but there's a killer.
• 49:43
  But don't panic. We're just going to lock you all
• 49:46
  in the building. Yep, everybody's got to stay.
• 49:48
  Here, Except Lisa's already left.
• 49:52
  Yes, she already got. Out two of the friends.
• 49:54
  I I don't know if we ever get names for them.
• 49:57
  They're the ones that fuck in the basement.
• 49:58
  I've never got their name either.
• 49:59
  Yeah, they assume, Paul. Is with Lisa, but actually Paul
• 50:05
  is fighting with Turner, 'cause he's very drunk and disorderly.
• 50:09
  And Turner's like, you need to arrest this man.
• 50:12
  And London's like, hey Pam, you want to arrest your friend?
• 50:14
  And she's like, yeah, yeah, they're all game for you.
• 50:17
  Yeah, he's like Booker Pamo. Can you imagine?
• 50:20
  Can you imagine being named Pam having a boyfriend you're quite
• 50:25
  fond of? And he calls you Pamo.
• 50:29
  Pamo. What's the alternative?
• 50:34
  Pam. Pam.
• 50:35
  Just Pam, you know? Her name.
• 50:38
  What's a good nickname for her? I can't think of anything.
• 50:42
  Pam's a hard one. Yeah.
• 50:44
  Pamo. I'm a Ding Dong Pamo.
• 50:47
  God, so Lisa is swimming in her underoos and it's weird, 'cause
• 50:54
  she'll take a lap and when she takes a lap she like kind of
• 50:57
  comes up the ladder a little bit.
• 51:00
  All right. It keeps pulling me back in.
• 51:03
  Not done yet. So she does this a couple of
• 51:05
  times. And then the last time she comes
• 51:06
  up, she's kicked in the face. Back combat boot dude.
• 51:10
  That's that's. A rough one right there.
• 51:12
  Just like gets straight up boot kicked right in the face.
• 51:14
  Yeah, and so she's confused and. Disoriented and she's trying to
• 51:17
  swim out of the pool, except the prowler has jumped in with her
• 51:20
  and comes from behind and slices her throat, I would suspect.
• 51:26
  With the way that the Prowler is decked out in his gear right
• 51:29
  now, that this would waterboarding himself, yeah
• 51:31
  'cause his? Face is fully.
• 51:33
  Covered by some kind of mesh and it just seems like a bad idea.
• 51:37
  But he, like, actually is in the pool of swimming underwater with
• 51:41
  it, you know? So the two friends from before
• 51:45
  they decide that they're going to tell him this out, that Lisa
• 51:47
  is at Gardner's pool and she's like, fuck.
• 51:49
  OK, cool. I'm gonna go check on it.
• 51:51
  I don't need to stay here, 'cause you're all college
• 51:53
  students, you're adults. Just stay locked up and the two
• 51:57
  kids go cool, we will not leave the building and instead they go
• 52:00
  down to a hard to find basement room and start sex.
• 52:03
  And and Mr. Turner's, they're watching.
• 52:06
  Yeah, he's just kind of. Watching and then that's the
• 52:08
  last thing we see is about them. Yeah, yeah, it's, it's.
• 52:12
  So bizarre. Maybe they all kill each other.
• 52:16
  It's. Possible, Yeah, they.
• 52:18
  Got into like a. Whole fight down there.
• 52:19
  Show that it didn't happen. That's true.
• 52:22
  We can't. You know what?
• 52:23
  What I'm calling. It now dream sequel What
• 52:26
  Happened in the Basement. That's a good name for the
• 52:29
  movie. Too What happened in the
• 52:31
  basement? Mr. Turner story?
• 52:35
  Whatever happened to? Baby Jane.
• 52:37
  But what kind of fuck was happening?
• 52:43
  What the fuck? That's a.
• 52:48
  Good tag on for it. Distributed exclusively by
• 52:52
  vinegar? Yeah.
• 52:54
  Hell yeah, Let's pitch it. OK, so.
• 52:57
  Miss out goes to the pool. Apparently all of the kids just
• 52:59
  go to Garner's pool, 'cause she knows exactly where it is, and
• 53:03
  she gets there and she's like, 'cause the pool is red, and
• 53:07
  pools aren't supposed to be red. That's not a thing.
• 53:09
  This isn't a Valentine's Day dance.
• 53:10
  It's not a kitschy little celebration decoration.
• 53:14
  It's blood. So she goes running.
• 53:16
  She's going to go get some help. Except she's not.
• 53:18
  Because as she's running out, she gets stabbed.
• 53:21
  She gets stabbed hard. Paul is being.
• 53:25
  A drunk asshole in his cell where he's gonna be drying out
• 53:28
  for the rest of the night. I love this so because.
• 53:32
  Mark is trying to tell him to quiet down and he just keeps
• 53:34
  fighting back. And then finally when Pam's like
• 53:36
  shut up Paul and he just stops. Shut up mom.
• 53:43
  It's like from Scream three with Randy.
• 53:46
  He's like 15 fucking minutes, Paul.
• 53:50
  Leaving my legacy. So.
• 53:54
  OK, I'll be there. So Kingsley decides that he's
• 53:58
  going to come harass Mark London as well.
• 54:00
  He's pissed. He's like this dance.
• 54:02
  It's a disaster. Chatham would have never allowed
• 54:05
  this. Sheriff George, is that his
• 54:08
  name? Yeah, Sheriff George wouldn't
• 54:09
  have allowed this. We got kids over at the
• 54:12
  graveyard and London's like, what the fuck?
• 54:14
  We specifically told them to stay at the dance.
• 54:17
  So he's like, OK, I guess I gotta go.
• 54:19
  And he's like, yeah, you do gotta go, 'cause the gate's wide
• 54:22
  open and it's supposed to be locked at night.
• 54:24
  Yeah. You're not supposed.
• 54:25
  Yeah. They're like, OK, like the
• 54:26
  gate's open, whatever. And then whenever he, he will
• 54:28
  sit, Pam, he's like the gate's supposed to always be locked.
• 54:31
  So that's not good. Like, yeah.
• 54:34
  I mean it's it's public property that it's kind of gate like
• 54:37
  yeah, you know. So.
• 54:39
  They decide they're going to go investigate and he leaves Pam in
• 54:44
  the Jeep, the their official police Jeep cruiser.
• 54:49
  And as he's checking out the grave, somebody dug up the grave
• 54:54
  and has like slightly opened the casket.
• 54:57
  So London's trying to figure out what's in there.
• 54:59
  When he hears Pam scream and it's because Otto just decides
• 55:02
  that he's gonna like, smash his face up against the window and
• 55:05
  like, breathe heavy at her, which deserves.
• 55:08
  A scream. In in the fucking.
• 55:10
  Cemetery. Yeah.
• 55:11
  Why did he? Follow.
• 55:12
  Them like, did he? Did the other dude send him
• 55:17
  there? I think maybe he helped.
• 55:19
  George he may, he may. Have, you know well, hmm.
• 55:24
  Doesn't he die at the end? Maybe George is like your
• 55:28
  disposable. This could, he could be, Yeah.
• 55:31
  Like. He would be a loose end, you
• 55:32
  know. So Lisa's actually the one in
• 55:35
  the grave. The headstone is like the name
• 55:38
  is scratched away. This headstone looks so fake.
• 55:43
  I know. That's what I was thinking too.
• 55:45
  Like that's not a stone that is so fake looking.
• 55:48
  And they, like, acted like the engravings chipped away, except
• 55:51
  there's still a little rose carved in at the top.
• 55:54
  Yeah, so. They managed to open it up all
• 55:57
  the way and they find Lisa's body is in there instead.
• 56:02
  So. London decides he's gonna call
• 56:04
  the lodge where Sheriff George is at.
• 56:05
  It's the Okawi Lodge and the innkeeper is an asshole
• 56:12
  cooperative. I hate this.
• 56:13
  Guy. This guy's such a fucking
• 56:15
  asshole. Like, Mark calls and he's like,
• 56:18
  hey, it's an emergency. I need to talk to the sheriff.
• 56:20
  Can you please, like, I'm Deputy Mark London, please.
• 56:23
  You gotta get me to him as fast as possible.
• 56:26
  And the guy's like, I'm mine, I'm kind of inconvenienced by
• 56:30
  this right here. I'm playing a little bit of a
• 56:32
  game here, but he doesn't actually say that.
• 56:34
  He's like, all right, I'll go get him, puts the phone down and
• 56:37
  he plays a couple more rounds of.
• 56:38
  Solitaire. And The thing is, we watch.
• 56:40
  The entire thing go down. We actually are on the phone
• 56:43
  waiting with Mark London, waiting for a response, at least
• 56:47
  for seeing what he's. Doing instead of like being on
• 56:50
  London's face the whole time, Just hearing, like the gentle
• 56:54
  swaps of him flipping over a card.
• 56:56
  Yeah, and I like how. He like, gives it enough time
• 56:59
  and then he looks over at the door and he takes it, opens it
• 57:01
  up and slams it and it's it's not even a door, It's.
• 57:04
  His, like, desk drawer. And was that what that was?
• 57:07
  Yeah. He doesn't even get up.
• 57:09
  Yeah. This guy's so lazy.
• 57:11
  Yeah, so he's like, he's not in his.
• 57:13
  Cabin Some of the fellows are night fishing and goes well.
• 57:16
  Can you take a message? And he's like, I have to find a
• 57:19
  pen. The pen's behind his ear.
• 57:22
  He puts the phone down and he's like all.
• 57:23
  Right. I'm going to do it.
• 57:24
  And then he realizes, like, I've actually got one.
• 57:27
  So he actually grabs it. And he grabs like a paper bag.
• 57:30
  Yeah. It's like a brown paper bag.
• 57:31
  Yeah. And then?
• 57:31
  He writes down. The message Mark.
• 57:36
  It's a long one. I'm glad he wrote it.
• 57:38
  Down South, London's like, all right, I'm gonna call the state
• 57:43
  police, cuz I don't think that message is getting to George.
• 57:46
  So Pam thinks Lisa's killer is also Rosemary's killer in
• 57:50
  London's. Like, you're stupid.
• 57:52
  He says he's gonna leave her at the dance and he calls her a
• 57:57
  burden. I forget his exact words.
• 57:59
  It was like, no, like I'm tired of dragging you.
• 58:02
  I have. It written here.
• 58:04
  Let's see, be there. I'm off at the dance.
• 58:08
  Going to Chatham's on their own. Doesn't want to drag her around
• 58:11
  anymore. That's what he says.
• 58:12
  Yeah, and she just kind of. Looks at him and he's like, OK.
• 58:18
  So she gets back in the. Jeep and they go to Chatham's.
• 58:22
  The power gets cut as they're looking around.
• 58:24
  So Lena's like, I'm gonna go fix the fuse, yeah?
• 58:30
  You know, they're breaking in, they're doing some D&E, might as
• 58:32
  well like do some renovations, fixing out the Karma.
• 58:35
  Yeah, you know, like. Sure.
• 58:37
  I respect it. It is what it is at this point,
• 58:40
  you know? Yeah.
• 58:41
  So he is grabbed by the prowler while he's going to do that and
• 58:45
  then the power comes back on. Yeah, you get a shot.
• 58:48
  Of the pitchfork being held over him.
• 58:50
  And then it cuts away. And I just had to know, like you
• 58:52
  can tell that he didn't die because you don't have Tom
• 58:55
  Savini do a death and not actually right?
• 58:59
  Show the shit on a movie like this right here.
• 59:02
  If somebody dies, you'll know it.
• 59:04
  So. Pam sees the necklaces dangling
• 59:08
  down from the fireplace and has no sense of self preservation,
• 59:11
  'cause she decides to grab at him and then Rosemary's body
• 59:14
  falls out of the chimney. Yep.
• 59:17
  So she. Runs out and as she runs out of
• 59:19
  the room she runs into the prowler and then there's like a
• 59:22
  lot of chasing happening. Yeah, running through the house.
• 59:26
  Although I. Do really like the scene of her
• 59:28
  going up to the room with all of the covered furniture that's
• 59:32
  covered in sheets, 'cause that's like a really cool place to do
• 59:35
  some hidings. I'm like looking around.
• 59:37
  I like the scene where she's hiding under.
• 59:38
  The bed and a rat starts chewing on her hair.
• 59:40
  Oh yeah, I forgot about. That part too.
• 59:43
  Yeah. So the Prowler.
• 59:46
  Ends up finding her and he approaches her and she's
• 59:49
  defending herself with this pitchfork.
• 59:51
  She ripped it off, yeah. Like, she grabbed it, ripped off
• 59:54
  the pitchfork part. He's got like a bayonet.
• 59:56
  No. Yeah, I don't.
• 59:58
  Know it doesn't matter because Otto comes up behind him and
• 1:00:01
  shoots him, and then Pam's like, Oh my God, I misjudged you for
• 1:00:04
  being creepy. You're creepy, But you also
• 1:00:06
  saved my life. And then the prowler shoots
• 1:00:08
  Otto. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.
• 1:00:10
  He's. Like I got my own double barrel
• 1:00:11
  right here. So then they fight.
• 1:00:14
  Pam and the Prowler do, and it turns out the Prowler is Old Man
• 1:00:19
  Jenkins. It's actually Sheriff George
• 1:00:23
  Frazer, you know, doing a night. Fishing.
• 1:00:26
  Nope. He It was all a.
• 1:00:27
  Lie Spring still has not sprung because he hasn't gone fishing.
• 1:00:32
  Fishing for murder, maybe. And they they wrestle on.
• 1:00:38
  There, he's got the shotgun. She tries to grab it and she's
• 1:00:41
  on top of him and she manages to take control of the shotgun just
• 1:00:46
  enough to get it up pointed at his head.
• 1:00:48
  And she pulls the trigger and we get a sweet ass head explosion
• 1:00:52
  because God damn it explodes so. Afterwards, in a very black
• 1:00:58
  Christmas esque ending, London takes Pam back to her dorm and
• 1:01:04
  just fucks on off so she can be there all alone.
• 1:01:07
  That's such a weird. Thing I guess.
• 1:01:09
  She's like, I gotta do cop work like and she's like, yeah, I'm
• 1:01:12
  kind of like a cop too. So I probably do too.
• 1:01:14
  Yeah. Let me get out of this dress.
• 1:01:16
  Let let me know when I'm gonna. Speak to HR about getting my get
• 1:01:19
  my name on the payroll so she gets to her room.
• 1:01:23
  It's unlocked again. The water is running.
• 1:01:26
  It's very steamy in there. It's so steamy.
• 1:01:29
  What is their water bill? What is their gas bill?
• 1:01:32
  I'm very concerned and she is like, OK, Sherry, this is
• 1:01:38
  enough's enough. And when she pulls back this
• 1:01:41
  door, she sees a dead Sherry and a dead Carl.
• 1:01:45
  Except Carl grabs her. Yeah, Carl's like, maybe not.
• 1:01:49
  He's like hung up on the the shower head.
• 1:01:54
  Yeah, I like this because he like he's still got the whited
• 1:01:57
  out eyes and he just reaches for her and grabs her and then like
• 1:02:01
  she backs away and yeah, it kind of looks like he didn't actually
• 1:02:05
  do it, but then at the same time, like did he, I guess it's
• 1:02:09
  kind of ambiguous. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:11
  It has like. A cut to where you're like, Oh
• 1:02:12
  well, maybe that wasn't real. Yeah, but I mean it just like.
• 1:02:15
  Cuts to black and credits roll right after that.
• 1:02:17
  Yep. So you don't really know.
• 1:02:19
  That's it. And that's how the movie ends.
• 1:02:21
  You definitely know the prowess set though.
• 1:02:22
  You guys had blown off. Yes, yes, Unless.
• 1:02:25
  Mark becomes the next. 1 He's. Probably also a serial killer
• 1:02:30
  and having to be a police deputy the whole night.
• 1:02:34
  Fucked up his plans to go on his own murder spree.
• 1:02:37
  I feel like it's like you can do the.
• 1:02:38
  Sequel with him, but he's the boogeyman 'cause he's always
• 1:02:42
  dancing. Oh my God, Travis.
• 1:02:43
  Yeah. Hell yeah.
• 1:02:44
  How? Dare you?
• 1:02:45
  I think it's good. How dare you, the boogeyman?
• 1:02:49
  You want some? Fuck.
• 1:02:51
  OK, now that we've talked. About it, what do you think?
• 1:02:56
  I think A7 still feels good. For this, I'll bump it to a 6
• 1:03:00
  1/2 OK. I I just, I would cut some of
• 1:03:03
  the middle stuff maybe give it more purpose to what's
• 1:03:07
  happening. You gotta up the pace with it
• 1:03:09
  for. Sure, yeah, yeah.
• 1:03:10
  Cuz. Whenever it.
• 1:03:11
  Drags. It really like, slows the movie
• 1:03:13
  down a whole lot. Yeah, we.
• 1:03:16
  Covered it a lot quicker than it actually happens.
• 1:03:19
  Oh yeah, yeah, that's. Just the thing like you get a
• 1:03:21
  lot of like nothing scenes where they're just slowly walking
• 1:03:23
  around the house or the cemetery or whatever and then or
• 1:03:27
  somebody's playing cards while they're pretending to go check
• 1:03:30
  on, like somebody's staying at the hotel or the lodge.
• 1:03:34
  You know, there's a lot of time of just of nothing going down on
• 1:03:37
  the screen. You know who had a good time?
• 1:03:39
  During this movie, though, Who's that, Talia?
• 1:03:42
  Yeah. Started off, she was sniffing
• 1:03:45
  some butt. Oh yeah.
• 1:03:47
  We've had a weird Scout this week.
• 1:03:50
  Yeah, I think Talia has been taking advantage of that.
• 1:03:53
  Yeah, Scout got her teeth cleaned.
• 1:03:55
  Which for cats involved being put under anesthesia.
• 1:03:58
  And so Scout was high for a little bit.
• 1:04:01
  So yeah, Talia was like, I'm gonna sniff her butt.
• 1:04:04
  And then Talia was also like, hey, but also look at my tummy.
• 1:04:07
  And then because she had her vet appointment this week, she got a
• 1:04:10
  new toy, Piggy Smalls, and she was like, we're gonna play with
• 1:04:13
  Piggy smalls also. So Talia was feeling all of
• 1:04:15
  this. I think Talia is actually gonna
• 1:04:18
  give it an 8, I think, since it's great.
• 1:04:20
  I think that that's pretty. Fair for her and time for Zoe's
• 1:04:26
  ultimate Warrior Hunter. I like that.
• 1:04:29
  Zoe's ultimate. Warrior.
• 1:04:30
  I would watch that show on G4. Yeah, I kinda forget that that
• 1:04:34
  was actually. A warrior.
• 1:04:37
  OK, let's see. Well, I I don't know.
• 1:04:44
  I mean, would it be the prower I?
• 1:04:47
  Think it's Mr. Turner. Mr. Turner cuz he.
• 1:04:51
  Silently follows them down. To the basement and then fears
• 1:04:53
  that up from behind. You know what?
• 1:04:56
  I would say? That it could be Chatham also.
• 1:04:59
  Because whenever I walk by her, whenever I'm going out of the
• 1:05:01
  kitchen, she'll take her arm out and grab my arm.
• 1:05:03
  Yes, that's her. Thing when she.
• 1:05:06
  Yeah. She sits.
• 1:05:07
  We've got this little counter that's right next to our kitchen
• 1:05:11
  entryway from the kitchen into the living room.
• 1:05:13
  And if we try and walk through there and she's sitting on that
• 1:05:16
  counter top, she just like reaches out and grabs.
• 1:05:18
  She sticks her claws out of there to like.
• 1:05:20
  Get a good hold. Like she's not stabbing you, but
• 1:05:22
  she's holding onto your clothing.
• 1:05:24
  You're you're correct. She's.
• 1:05:25
  She appreciates Chatham the most.
• 1:05:29
  That's the right call. Yeah, OK.
• 1:05:31
  Who did she relate to? Let's see.
• 1:05:36
  In this movie, I think I would. I think I'd relate to the man.
• 1:05:51
  That's a tough one. It seemed like people were
• 1:05:53
  having a fun time in the bathroom there.
• 1:05:54
  I feel like I would have been one of the bathroom goers where,
• 1:05:58
  like, during the dance, like dance on lockdown, let's all go
• 1:06:00
  hang out. And like, it kind of reminded me
• 1:06:02
  of the bathroom scene in Frankenhooker where they all are
• 1:06:07
  just, it's kind of like its own party.
• 1:06:09
  And there you get Paul. He's on the ground throwing up
• 1:06:11
  everywhere. He's adding some atmosphere to
• 1:06:13
  it. You know, there's some really
• 1:06:14
  good bathroom scenes in. Cinema, because we've got that.
• 1:06:16
  We've got think about Pulp Fiction, yeah.
• 1:06:21
  And then also. Think about American Psycho.
• 1:06:23
  We got a lot going on. That's true.
• 1:06:25
  A lot. I.
• 1:06:26
  Mean those two? Instances I just quoted involve
• 1:06:29
  cocaine, but you know, I think my sorry party.
• 1:06:33
  Frankenhooker does too. It also, you know, involves
• 1:06:35
  hookers. But, you know, I don't think
• 1:06:37
  that that's really going on here.
• 1:06:38
  But yeah, so. Yeah, I guess.
• 1:06:41
  I would rule, I would be one of those guys.
• 1:06:43
  OK, what about you? I guess I'd just be like one of
• 1:06:49
  the random dance people I love. I love a dance.
• 1:06:53
  I do. I like to go out and boogie
• 1:06:55
  hard. Would you be Lisa?
• 1:06:58
  Then. No, because I don't think I
• 1:07:00
  would like leave the dance and ruin my hair and makeup by
• 1:07:03
  jumping into a swimming pool. OK, that's fair.
• 1:07:06
  And also. I've done.
• 1:07:07
  Laps in a pool before I definitely don't climb up the
• 1:07:10
  ladder after each lap. And also I'm not gonna take my.
• 1:07:14
  Friend's boyfriend and force him to dance with me in a way that's
• 1:07:17
  like mean the way she's doing it or flash a creepster from.
• 1:07:22
  Across the street, there's like a lot of reasons I'm not.
• 1:07:24
  Lisa, I'm just going to say I'm one of the random dancers.
• 1:07:26
  All right. That's fair.
• 1:07:28
  Yeah, I was going to say, like, I would have said that.
• 1:07:32
  The thing is, I'm not a dancer, though, so I wouldn't be out
• 1:07:34
  there dancing. I'd be one of the people
• 1:07:35
  enjoying the music or one of the guys in the band.
• 1:07:39
  But I'm like, I just want to be part of that band.
• 1:07:41
  Like give me on the the, the triangle or something.
• 1:07:44
  Like, you know, let's make it happen.
• 1:07:48
  Maybe that's what they were missing to be able to make Make
• 1:07:51
  it big out there. OK, tagline.
• 1:07:58
  Let's see who rose to the occasion.
• 1:08:03
  Let's see who rose to the occasion.
• 1:08:05
  That's not too bad. Pitch a fork.
• 1:08:14
  In her She's done. There we go.
• 1:08:20
  Yeah, there we. Go.
• 1:08:21
  OK, I'm glad I haven't come up with.
• 1:08:25
  The stupidest tagline on this show so far.
• 1:08:28
  I'm glad that I have. I think I could take.
• 1:08:31
  Great pride in that, OK? We already discussed dream
• 1:08:35
  sequel. Yeah, so.
• 1:08:40
  What was it again? What?
• 1:08:42
  What? What?
• 1:08:43
  Happened in the basement. What the fuck?
• 1:08:45
  What the fuck? Yeah.
• 1:08:46
  Yeah, so, OK, so. It's time for reviews, OK?
• 1:08:52
  I wasn't sure. How we were gonna land on this?
• 1:08:54
  I thought we were generally favorable, but I wanted to have
• 1:08:57
  a couple of options. So let me get the lower one dot
• 1:09:03
  of the middle section. If it weren't for the insanely
• 1:09:07
  dull middle section of the Prowler, it'd probably be one of
• 1:09:09
  the most effective slashers of the early 80s.
• 1:09:12
  All of the other ingredients are in place and well utilized, with
• 1:09:14
  Tom Savini's Grizzly makeup effects stopping the show every
• 1:09:17
  single time they make an appearance.
• 1:09:19
  As lightweight as the story is already, it can probably.
• 1:09:22
  It can probably use a few trims to cut it down to something more
• 1:09:25
  like 70 minutes. You all know we're a fan of the
• 1:09:29
  70 minute horror film on this podcast.
• 1:09:32
  If you don't need more time, don't take more time.
• 1:09:35
  I absolutely agree with that. Yeah, take the time you need to
• 1:09:39
  tell the. Story you need to tell?
• 1:09:40
  Yeah, we don't need to have all that.
• 1:09:42
  Meandering around if we don't need it and we didn't need it,
• 1:09:45
  here's the thing, we're not opposed.
• 1:09:46
  To long movies. We just rewatched the director's
• 1:09:50
  cut of Midsummer last week, which is a three hour movie.
• 1:09:53
  Yeah. Like we're not.
• 1:09:54
  Saying and we watch God, we watch fucking Tarantino often
• 1:09:58
  enough. Like not every movie has to be
• 1:10:02
  70 minutes, but also not every movie has to be 90 or 120.
• 1:10:07
  Like, just take the time. You need to tell the story you
• 1:10:10
  need to tell. This movie was not about story.
• 1:10:13
  This movie was about Gilbert. Yeah, for sure.
• 1:10:16
  Yeah, the. Story is very weak in this.
• 1:10:18
  Like if that's what they were banking on there.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, yeah. No, that's 100% like good review
• 1:10:26
  for this right here. Just so you got to keep it a
• 1:10:28
  little bit shorter, a little bit faster, a little bit more
• 1:10:31
  entertaining. Yes.
• 1:10:32
  OK. I, I have one review OK, from
• 1:10:37
  somebody here. It was over on Twitter and it's
• 1:10:41
  from movies for days. OK.
• 1:10:43
  It says this is a damn good, often unseen entry in the genre.
• 1:10:47
  Really love the costume design for the killer.
• 1:10:50
  I will say the killer design is unique.
• 1:10:53
  It's something you don't really see too much.
• 1:10:55
  It is. I just.
• 1:10:56
  There's a thing that I feel like there were too many elements
• 1:10:59
  thrown in here all at once because we have this combat, but
• 1:11:03
  but then also we have a pitchfork.
• 1:11:04
  But then also we're on a college campus and we're referring to
• 1:11:07
  the killer as the prowler. Like, that's not just the name
• 1:11:10
  of the movie. That's like literally they're
• 1:11:11
  like there's a prowler on campus.
• 1:11:13
  Yeah, there's too many competing elements for like what kind of
• 1:11:18
  an aesthetic I think they're going for.
• 1:11:21
  Yeah, I guess maybe. Get a little bit more focused on
• 1:11:27
  what you want to really have thing be about, 'cause I like
• 1:11:31
  the idea of like a Dear John guy coming back and just kind of,
• 1:11:37
  well, see, who's he killing here?
• 1:11:38
  Why's he killing these people? Yeah.
• 1:11:40
  And did he really wait like? 35 years just because the dance
• 1:11:44
  was shut down? Like, yeah, is that it?
• 1:11:47
  Is he just? Doing it at the dance now, At
• 1:11:49
  the ball. Yeah, like, it's kind of
• 1:11:52
  confusing. But The thing is, at least it
• 1:11:56
  has like a strong foundation. They just needed to fine tune it
• 1:11:59
  enough to, like, get it to its full potential.
• 1:12:02
  Yeah. But yeah, I like the bones of
• 1:12:04
  this movie, and I think that it's still a fun, entertaining
• 1:12:07
  movie. I I feel like we still got some
• 1:12:09
  watches of from us in the future.
• 1:12:12
  Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'll watch this movie.
• 1:12:14
  Again, no qualms about it, but I'm not going to pay super close
• 1:12:18
  attention just for the cool scenes.
• 1:12:20
  Yeah, I appreciate it. For the moments you want to.
• 1:12:22
  Yeah. OK, Well, then that's it for our
• 1:12:25
  reviews, which means that's it for this week's episode.
• 1:12:28
  OK. Next.
• 1:12:30
  Week. It's time for socks.
• 1:12:32
  Yeah, socks. We're.
• 1:12:34
  We're going to the chaperone, yeah.
• 1:12:35
  We're referring to socks as the. Chaperone 'cause it's not
• 1:12:39
  actually brought a dance at all, like a Thor.
• 1:12:41
  Thor, sore thumb, but yeah, that one's.
• 1:12:45
  Fun. Very excited to talk about it.
• 1:12:48
  Yeah, me too. So.
• 1:12:50
  Currently. You can stream it on Starz,
• 1:12:53
  YouTube Primetime, Hulu Premium, Sling TV Premium, Prime Premium,
• 1:12:57
  YouTube TV Premium, Philo Premium, or you can rent it from
• 1:13:00
  Google Play or Fandango at home. That's stand corrected.
• 1:13:03
  OK, so if you've got like. Premium versions of
• 1:13:06
  subscriptions. Oh, you fancy.
• 1:13:09
  Enjoy, Enjoy your socks watching and we're ready.
• 1:13:14
  I'm very excited to talk about it.
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, and this is going to be us.
• 1:13:17
  Wrapping up the saw coverage too.
• 1:13:19
  Yeah, so that means. That soon we'll have our bonus
• 1:13:23
  episode ranking all of the Saw movies thus far, and we'll also
• 1:13:26
  soon be announcing our next franchise, which we've had
• 1:13:30
  planned since basically the first Saw.
• 1:13:34
  Yeah, so that's. True.
• 1:13:36
  Yeah, I'm. I'm looking forward to both
• 1:13:38
  closing this one and opening up a new chapter.
• 1:13:41
  But don't worry, we'll still cover the other Saw movies as
• 1:13:43
  they get released, because we know at least one more is coming
• 1:13:46
  out. So for sure, but yeah.
• 1:13:48
  That one's been. Delayed.
• 1:13:49
  Though it's true, so it'll be a while.
• 1:13:52
  Same with Screen 7. Whenever that eventually comes
• 1:13:56
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• 1:14:00
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• 1:14:03
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• 1:14:04
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  And also just what people know about us.
• 1:15:25
  If you can, like if you got somebody that likes scary
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  movies, you know, like if you think that we're a good fit for
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  them, suggest us, you know, don't let them know about us.
• 1:15:34
  Because we like having more people about us and they're
• 1:15:36
  like, well. I don't want to listen to
• 1:15:37
  another show that's shitting on scary movies.
• 1:15:39
  Be like, that's not really their thing.
• 1:15:41
  Yeah, they playfully do analyze it, but it is analysis.
• 1:15:44
  And also they recognize that every movie's got a fan base.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah. And I feel like that's our.
• 1:15:48
  Credo we're. Usually more.
• 1:15:51
  Positive about movies than most people on here like yeah, our
• 1:15:55
  our ratings are always over. The IMDb ratings probably one of
• 1:15:58
  the lower ratings. I've given in a while.
• 1:16:00
  Yeah, if we don't have TV. Yeah, tubies are always wild.
• 1:16:03
  Cards. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:16:04
  But this right here, yeah, has six is kind of a rare for us.
• 1:16:08
  But that doesn't mean it's a bad movie, you know, It's just it's
• 1:16:11
  not one that we're like, fuck yeah about, you know, I'm not
• 1:16:15
  the primary audience for. It despite being a Stan Veenie?
• 1:16:18
  Yeah, exactly. So, all right, you all know
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  where to find us. We'll be back next week for
• 1:16:25
  socks, and we'll see you guys next time.
• 1:16:29
  Bye. Bye.
• 1:16:42
  I don't think it's streaming anywhere.
• 1:16:44
  Well, let's find out for sure. Yeah.
• 1:16:45
  Yes.