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4-02-26 Hour 1 - A very strange Avs loss/Nuggets took care of business...finally/Raiders signed Kirk Cousins · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Caine on demand.
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  Speaker 3: Eight six is the final Vancouver over the Avalanche, and
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  Speaker 3: that's not an April Fool's joke. Ams win the season
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  Speaker 3: series versus Vancouver two to one. But it's another night
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  Speaker 3: where it's seven plus surrendered on hull mights by the
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  Speaker 3: Colorado Avalanche.
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  Speaker 4: That's gonna be good, folks, and Nuggets winted going away.
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  Speaker 4: There's the horn at the Delta Center. Denver beats the
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  Speaker 4: Utah Jazz one to one seventeen. Jamal Murray explodes for
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  Speaker 4: thirty seven. Jokichas another triple double, and Denver has won
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  Speaker 4: a season high seven straight basketball games. Final tonight from
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  Speaker 4: Utah Denver one thirty Jazz one seventeen.
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  Speaker 5: Feels like, uh, there's like a freaky Friday body switch
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  Speaker 5: thing that happened yesterday because they both played against bad teams.
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  Speaker 5: The Nuggets were the one that took care of their
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  Speaker 5: bad team pretty handily, and there was a moment in
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  Speaker 5: there where they let go of it. But there was
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  Speaker 5: never fear that you were losing the game, and the
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  Speaker 5: Abs were the one that didn't take the bad team.
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  Speaker 6: Seriously, we'd first time in more than a month with
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  Speaker 6: these teams playing on the same night we didn't have
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  Speaker 6: the same result, because in last month, every time they've
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  Speaker 6: played on the same night, either both have won or
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  Speaker 6: both have lost.
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  Speaker 1: Last night was the first time.
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  Speaker 5: There was three times in the Avs game most that
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  Speaker 5: I thought the game was over. I thought the game
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  Speaker 5: was over when McKinnon tied at one to one. I
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  Speaker 5: thought the Avs were gonna roll from there. I thought
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  Speaker 5: the game was over when it was six to six.
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  Speaker 5: When the Aps tied it again, I was like, once
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  Speaker 5: you come back from down six too, you make it
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  Speaker 5: six to six, this is done. And then seconds later
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  Speaker 5: and then I thought the game was over with about
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  Speaker 5: twelve seconds left, when they're up eight to six and
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  Speaker 5: it was over. Then. I know games like this are frustrating.
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  Speaker 5: I have something that's maybe a silver lining to this
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  Speaker 5: that we can get to in a bit, but I know.
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  Speaker 2: Last night was completely I want to be on a record, gentlemen. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: last night was so unacceptable. At this point of the season,
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  Speaker 2: it's not even funny.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we jahn, I know that marketing is important in sports,
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  Speaker 6: and being homage to those before us is important. Get
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  Speaker 6: rid of those Quebec jerseys, and I never want to
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  Speaker 6: see them again.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah they're bad. They this team is bad in those sweaters.
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  Speaker 5: They really are.
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  Speaker 6: Don't want to see them ever again. Done our part,
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  Speaker 6: down our part, okay, yeah, all right, get it. Got
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  Speaker 6: it by.
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  Speaker 5: The regular home jerseys for the ass. I'm doing my part.
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  Speaker 5: Road jerseys, I'm doing my part. Nord East jerseys, I
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  Speaker 5: didn't finish.
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  Speaker 2: No, you forgot the division rivalry jersey, the dark blue one.
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  Speaker 6: My part is that what it is? Two three and
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  Speaker 6: two in those Quebec jerseys. No, and I'm not even superstitious.
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  Speaker 1: I don't even believe in witchcraft.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, we'll be on the laundry.
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  Speaker 2: Jared Bednar's news conference last night was as short as
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  Speaker 2: I've seen ever.
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  Speaker 5: And Nelly grabs some of that for us.
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  Speaker 2: I much he has to hear, so mad, he was
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  Speaker 2: so mad, so mad, it was. It was as short
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  Speaker 2: as I've seen, and it's just the guys raised a
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  Speaker 2: good point. Remember the Pittsburgh game when they lost seven
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  Speaker 2: to two.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody got behind him, Malkins by himself. You know what
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  Speaker 7: the very next game was.
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  Speaker 2: Dallas in these two instances, although Pittsburgh is a playoff team,
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  Speaker 2: so it's not like, you know, that one was super crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got you know, they've got playoff aspirations even.
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  Speaker 7: If they're not gonna win anything.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Vancouver is the worst team in the league, but
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  Speaker 2: nonetheless you didn't play even remotely close to winning hockey,
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  Speaker 2: and the Dallas Stars were the next team on the docket.
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  Speaker 2: I think there's definitely some looking ahead going on. But boy,
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  Speaker 2: oh boy, you can't wait till the third period to
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  Speaker 2: turn things on and score three straight and tie it up.
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  Speaker 7: And then that goal.
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  Speaker 2: After the Malinsky goal tied it at six, twenty three
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  Speaker 2: seconds later, they go ahead seven to six. Jack Drury
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  Speaker 2: does everything right. The puck hits the end of the
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  Speaker 2: heel skate blade and goes like not forty five degrees
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  Speaker 2: but more like one degrees opposite off the post and end.
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  Speaker 7: You got to come on, It's.
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  Speaker 1: Just amazing because that situation.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I know, Vick, you don't to remind me,
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  Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying.
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  Speaker 5: Here you go, what went wrong in the first apperiance?
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  Speaker 7: It's too long a list.
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  Speaker 5: About How about this one.
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  Speaker 7: Desparance. No, no, no, no, there's there's no listen, there's
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  Speaker 7: no excuse.
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  Speaker 8: So you get.
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  Speaker 9: I think if we're making excuses for that performance, it's
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  Speaker 9: gonna be a short run.
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  Speaker 2: That's a pretty strong statement from the head coach. He's right,
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  Speaker 2: He's totally correct. You're right the ads.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, we're guilty.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit of what the Nuggets have done at
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  Speaker 6: times is and that is not only played down to
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  Speaker 6: the competition played below. The competition allowed teams t hammer
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  Speaker 6: play with your food.
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  Speaker 1: That's what they did.
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  Speaker 5: They thought they just had to roll it out there
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  Speaker 5: and they would have smoked Vancouver last night. Now here's
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  Speaker 5: the silver lining, I would say in Moje. Don't get
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  Speaker 5: me wrong. Okay, this is not me putting blame on somebody,
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  Speaker 5: but I think one thing's clear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know where you're going. I can I guess what.
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  Speaker 5: It's not that hard, but yeah, go ahead.
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  Speaker 6: If I could just lob one guess about what you're
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  Speaker 6: about to say, sure you know who your number one
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  Speaker 6: goal is?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just look, it's not even that Blackwood's like,
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  Speaker 5: I don't have confidence in him. He has struggled way
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  Speaker 5: more as as of recently, like post Olympic break, Blackwood
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  Speaker 5: hasn't been great from a consistency standpoint. Before that, he
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  Speaker 5: was awesome. He was top five with Wedgwood in save
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  Speaker 5: percentage in goals allowed. He's now crept to eight ninety
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  Speaker 5: nine in save percentage, and that's due to this last
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  Speaker 5: month of play. So if you have to play him
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  Speaker 5: in the postseason, it's not like I'm gonna be like,
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  Speaker 5: oh God, what are they gonna do? I have still
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  Speaker 5: confidence in him, but he's not playing confidently right now.
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  Speaker 5: And when I asked this to Bednar yesterday, I asked him,
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  Speaker 5: is there a number one goalie? He said this, With us.
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  Speaker 8: I think we're comfortable with both of these guys. Like,
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  Speaker 8: I don't know how exactly it's going to play out.
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  Speaker 8: Someone obviously is going to get to start for Game
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  Speaker 8: one of the playoffs, and I'm not. I don't think
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  Speaker 8: we can be afraid to continue to deploy our guys
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  Speaker 8: like we have all year. It's worked for us. You know,
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  Speaker 8: if one guy stumbles, the next guy goes in the net.
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  Speaker 8: And when you run for seven months a certain way.
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  Speaker 9: And then it works. Conventional thinking for me is just
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  Speaker 9: you gotta continue to do what you're doing. It's the
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  Speaker 9: rhythm of your team, it's the way it works. To
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  Speaker 9: say like, well, this guy's going to be our starter
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  Speaker 9: and he's going to play every game in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 9: That doesn't make sense for me.
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  Speaker 5: So here's what I would say to that. I think
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  Speaker 5: that some of that is a diplomatic answer at this
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  Speaker 5: point in the season. I think some of that is,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I don't think that Bednar is going to
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  Speaker 5: enter the postseason going all right, Weggie, you're going game one,
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  Speaker 5: black when you're going game two, Leggie, game three. I
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  Speaker 5: don't think it's going to look like that.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is gonna be a field game to
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  Speaker 2: game basis.
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  Speaker 5: I think, though he gives that answer, I bet you
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  Speaker 5: that he thinks the same thing that we're thinking that
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  Speaker 5: what Wood's just playing better. It's clear and obvious to see.
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  Speaker 5: But he's not gonna say that with a few games
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  Speaker 5: left to basically, I don't know, throw a shot maybe
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  Speaker 5: at the confidence of Blackwood at this point in the season.
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  Speaker 5: But there was two goals last night, like he was
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  Speaker 5: left out to drive plenty of times understood, but the
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  Speaker 5: five hole to start the game, it looked like he
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  Speaker 5: was surprised that they had a chance that early and
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  Speaker 5: he gets beat five hole. There was a glove glove
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  Speaker 5: side goal that was I don't remember which one was.
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  Speaker 5: There was eight of them, but it was like five
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  Speaker 5: or six where he had a clear line of sight
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  Speaker 5: towards the shot and it just went right past the glove.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like that stuff just feels like it doesn't happen
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  Speaker 5: to eduation.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, the Bester, But I'll say this the goal six,
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  Speaker 7: the Besser.
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  Speaker 2: Two on two. If you break it down, I mean
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  Speaker 2: we could go over the film for every single situation.
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  Speaker 2: You've got a two on two coming back. You've got
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  Speaker 2: it the fenceman and you've got Ross Colton and the
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  Speaker 2: Canucks scissor. Bester comes over here, and Ross is not
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  Speaker 2: a defenseman, He's a forward. A defenseman would step in
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  Speaker 2: and close that gap. More on Besser pretty quickly, right,
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  Speaker 2: he calls that you gap up real quick.
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  Speaker 7: Besser's a world class shooter. I'm not and again I'm
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  Speaker 7: not blaming Ross. I'm just saying that this is.
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  Speaker 2: Not his forte Right, Besser's a world class shooter. And
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  Speaker 2: he bangs it off the post short side and in,
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  Speaker 2: and he's a former forty goal scorer. So this guy
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  Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. I thought it was a pretty
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  Speaker 2: good goal. Could block would have made a glove safe. Perhaps,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean it was a really hard shot,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, it was a short side goal off the
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  Speaker 2: iron and in. But I mean, again, it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those things. The Titanic didn't just sink because it hit
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  Speaker 2: an iceberg. These things happened along the way that caused
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  Speaker 2: this to happen, so on and so forth, and blah
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  Speaker 2: blah blah. Either way, it doesn't matter. There's no excuse
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  Speaker 2: for that. I mean, it was just a really really
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  Speaker 2: messy game from top bottom.
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  Speaker 1: It's it scares me on this front, and scared the
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  Speaker 1: wrong word.
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  Speaker 6: I guess the year they won the Cup they did
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  Speaker 6: have a couple of stumbled games down the stretch, but because.
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  Speaker 5: They lost six to seven, but they just they were everything,
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  Speaker 5: everything wrapped up.
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  Speaker 1: This feels that felt different.
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  Speaker 5: I see, I don't know, kind of like, I know,
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  Speaker 5: it's not wrapped up, moj You would have to do
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  Speaker 5: this about six more times for this thing not to
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  Speaker 5: be wrapped up.
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  Speaker 7: Though.
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  Speaker 5: I think they know that they have this pretty much
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  Speaker 5: in hand, and they just bleeped around last night. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not saying I'm not saying that's okay, but that's the
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  Speaker 5: way that it felt.
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  Speaker 1: What you're saying.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to overcome human reaction. You know it's over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: Hell we said yesterday on the show. If SETI it's over,
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  Speaker 6: the race is over.
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  Speaker 5: If Dallas won four of their last five. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think you get that game last night. I think that
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  Speaker 5: game is almost a sort of emotional response to Dallas.
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  Speaker 7: I stumbling, Yeah, can I can I chime in though
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  Speaker 7: a little bit. You're both totally correct.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm you get I mean, I really like you
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  Speaker 6: and respect you. But there's reason, no reason at.
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  Speaker 1: All for you to chime it.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, hockey Brett was taken over with good stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Shut him off. You're both totally correct.
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  Speaker 2: You cannot manufacture emotion against the lowest pointed team in
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  Speaker 2: the league. Okay, Dallas is coming up on Saturday.
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  Speaker 7: It's a huge game. Blah blah blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: That being said, Vic Brett mac cecil those at five
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  Speaker 2: hole to start the game.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you get one right back when they that was sick.
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  Speaker 5: To get fifty on that one was sick.
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  Speaker 2: You're tied at one and you give up another shorthanded
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  Speaker 2: goal bro to Teddy Blueger, who had six goals all
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  Speaker 2: season long. When we're not talking about a twenty goal scorer,
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about a single digit guy. And Teddy Blueger
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  Speaker 2: comes down shorthand didn't scores on you. Now it's two
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  Speaker 2: to one. Then you take a penalty, and this is
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  Speaker 2: the way it goes. Sometimes it bangs in off the
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  Speaker 2: brusque he's not I mean he's he's in the right place,
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  Speaker 2: but he's not making a play. The puck bangs in
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  Speaker 2: off and now it's three to one. You're like that
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  Speaker 2: that's what you allow to happen when you don't go,
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  Speaker 2: that's all vic you don't go.
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  Speaker 7: And that you allow that kind of thing to happen.
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  Speaker 6: I want to test I want to test you right now.
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  Speaker 6: Uh are you then going to concede that perhaps the
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  Speaker 6: Nuggets having these close calls against Utah and if you
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  Speaker 6: didn't watch the game last night, the final score indicates
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  Speaker 6: they blew him out.
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  Speaker 1: They did not blow him out. That game was close.
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  Speaker 1: It was a fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: I never really had a fear that they were gonna lose, but.
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  Speaker 1: It was close.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay, I believe that This is at play, especially
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  Speaker 6: against teams like Utah, when you know the opposing team
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  Speaker 6: is not serious. They're playing unseerious basketball. They're sitting their
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  Speaker 6: leading score for parts of the fourth quarter, as they
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  Speaker 6: did again last night.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing things like that.
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  Speaker 6: I think deep down you are not all there because
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  Speaker 6: you don't know what to do with that. And I
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  Speaker 6: think that's a it's a serious issue, especially in the NBA.
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  Speaker 6: These teams were playing or not serious. What are they doing?
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  Speaker 6: And we're trying to you know, we're just trying to
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  Speaker 6: play some serious basketball. It's hard to do that.
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  Speaker 5: It felt like, We'll get to the Nuggets in a second.
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  Speaker 5: It just felt like the Nuggets started the game being like,
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  Speaker 5: all right, we're just gonna bury this team, and then
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  Speaker 5: it's hard to do that for the full forty eight. Like,
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  Speaker 5: here's the thing with the Avs, Mosh when the Avs
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  Speaker 5: needed to put something together, they scored four goals in
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  Speaker 5: like twelve minutes and they tied the game up, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like, it didn't seem that different
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  Speaker 5: cult for them to get going once they decided they
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  Speaker 5: were they were going to get going. But then at
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  Speaker 5: that point, but then luck bounces man MOSR.
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  Speaker 6: Moser said it. When you allow a team life, When
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  Speaker 6: you give a team hope, luck comes into play, lucky gold,
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  Speaker 6: lucky bounces, you can't allow it.
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  Speaker 5: and last name to three zero three five four nine
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  Speaker 5: two five. So Avalanche game not good last night for
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  Speaker 5: a number of different reasons. The Nuggets looked like they
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  Speaker 5: took things seriously at the start, let go of the rope,
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  Speaker 5: especially to begin the second half, and then took over
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  Speaker 5: again towards the end of the game to close that out.
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  Speaker 5: I never felt vic that that game was within reach
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  Speaker 5: for U toadh. It still felt like, even when the
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  Speaker 5: game got closer, that the Nuggets still had control of it.
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  Speaker 5: They were just doing some dumb things, turnovers, that sort
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  Speaker 5: of thing. But I'll tell you this much, when you
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  Speaker 5: get Jamal Murray playing at this kind of level, it's
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  Speaker 5: the first time over the extended stretch of a season.
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  Speaker 5: I would say that you don't have a one in
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  Speaker 5: a two between Joker and Murray. It feels a lot
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  Speaker 5: more like one A and one B. And I think
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  Speaker 5: that that is a huge development if you want to
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  Speaker 5: do some things in the postseason, because he has been
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  Speaker 5: remarkable all year.
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  Speaker 1: How closely did you watch the game last night?
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  Speaker 5: I mean as closely as I could with two games
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  Speaker 5: going on.
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  Speaker 6: Joker had a triple double. How would you evaluate Joker's
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  Speaker 6: performance last night?
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  Speaker 7: Not good?
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  Speaker 5: I mean he he didn't shoot for the first half.
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  Speaker 5: What was it, one shot or two shots in the
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  Speaker 5: first half.
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  Speaker 1: Uh one.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it just felt like one of those games where
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  Speaker 5: he had no interest in scoring, which I don't like those.
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  Speaker 2: All I saw VIC was again, I watched as much
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  Speaker 2: as I could because I have.
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  Speaker 7: My own game.
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  Speaker 2: What's second intermission I'm watching, and it showed Joker's stettline.
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  Speaker 2: It said points two. I'm like, ah, it's one of
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  Speaker 2: those nights. He's not trying to even shoot the basketball.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: It's one of those nights. Huh okay, and then he
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: proceeded to send a skip pass to the nearer side
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: to Cam Johnson, who immediately climbed to three.
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: And that's what I saw.
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: Why does he do that?
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know how. Sometimes I don't
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: know if he's at its end. The the issue with
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: the referees showed its face again last night. Yeah, Neil
• 17:06
  Speaker 6: constantly constantly staring, yelling, I don't know, I don't know.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: I just it's it's not it's not gonna work.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: The playoffs. Yeah, that's it's not gonna work that. They
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: have to calm that down. The other issue I had.
• 17:26
  Speaker 6: All right, listen, let me start by saying this. The
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: Nuggets have won seven in a row. They've taken care
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: of business.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: They've done what they were supposed to do, seven wins
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: in a row. They've beaten Utah nowt ten straight times,
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: the most ever in that series. They won their twenty
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: fifth road game last night, which is also ties a
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: franchise record. Everything's working. They have five games to play.
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: If they win three of the five, in my opinion,
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: they will clinch the four seed.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be theirs. They'll get home court in the
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: first round.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: All good, But a couple of things last night that
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: were not good. Peyton Watson had to leave the game
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: because of tightness in his hamstring.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: That scares me.
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Tim Hardaway Junior had to leave the game.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: He bumped knees.
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: That scares me. Not saying it's serious, it scares me.
• 18:18
  Speaker 6: Especially the Peyton Watson thing.
• 18:19
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: Aaron Gordon, if you watch the game, he's playing tentative basketball.
• 18:25
  Speaker 6: He's he's not extending himself. He's playing like as if
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: he's not. He doesn't want to get hurt again.
• 18:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's afraid.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: He's afraid to aggravate anything, or maybe anything he is aggravating.
• 18:35
  Speaker 7: He's just trying to play through it.
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: When he says he noticed that, right, he's a player
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: that I mean, He's got a lot of different assets
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: to him, but one of his biggest things that makes
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: him who he is is he has an explosive game,
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: right Like, it's a lot about playing physically and jumping
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: high and doing and if you can't play to that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: you're going against kind of what your natru nature is
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: as a player. I get all the concerns vic. I
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: understand him. I do think like I didn't come over
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: with that game. You know, There's been games that the
• 19:12
  Speaker 5: Nuggets have won against bad teams where I've been like
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: upset the next I guess I'm not that. It just
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: felt like they put it on cruise control a little
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: too much in that game, but they always had it
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: other games that felt like you needed a mad dash
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: like what the Avs tried to do last night in
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: the third period to get back in the game. The
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Nuggets always felt in control. It was just sometimes more
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: in control than others. But the bottom line is like
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: to see Jamal have a season like this, which for him,
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the biggest criticism has always seemed to be he hasn't
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: done this for a full season. It's why he's never
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: been an All Star until this year. It's why he's
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: never been in All NBA guy until I mean, he's
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: probably gonna make one of those teams. What don't you
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: think Vic at least third team All NBA. There's a
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: lot of good guards in the Western Conference.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But we looked at it last night. I mean, hell,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: he is a chance second team.
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: But so what I'm saying, Yeah, he's at least gonna
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: make one of those teams. I think because he's been
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: consistent all year. But there's been you know, I'll say
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: this again for the Nuggets. Their MO has always been Jokers,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: the best player, and then Jamal has to be good
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: and then you need some other guys to come along.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: It really feels like this year you have one A,
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: one B with him and Murray. Because Jamal has been
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: unbelievable and anytime you need a bucket, you know he
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: is first team All NBA. We need a bucket, He's
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: gonna get you a bucket type of guy. I mean,
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: he's ten of sixteen from three last night, and he
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: is out of all the people. Think about this for
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: a second. Who's been the healthiest player on the roster
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: this year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: It's been Jamal.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: I mean he's missed what, Vic, two games.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: He's been a warrior.
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: In fact, he's played in more games this season, over
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: seventy games this season, than he has since his second
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: year in the league, So.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: I major kudos to him. Another interesting thing last night,
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: valentiun has played and I thought he was pretty good.
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: I thought they used Valentiunas exactly the way a guy
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: like that.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Should be used as a smaller team.
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: Put him on the block, leave him on the block,
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: give him the ball on the block, and let him
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: what moje, let him do what.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Let him just bang away, bang, which is what he did,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: just bang.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: In thirteen minutes. He got eight free throws because of it,
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: because that's what you're supposed to be doing.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, you know, and again I saw it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: None of that craziness where you got Valentiunas on the
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: elbow and setting picks and no, huh huh. Now on
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: the block, he's got a smaller guy on him. Give
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: him ball, let him move with ball, move, move with ball.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: So, VIC, are you more disappointed than than I guess
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: satisfied with the game last night?
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: I'm scared, Yeah, I'm scared. They can't they can't stay healthy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Did you hear David Adelman's reaction to the health issues
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: last night? Listen, play play the sound, tell me if
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: he doesn't sound scared.
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna I'll first do just his initial thoughts
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: in the post game, and then we'll get to that
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: audio in a second.
• 22:28
  Speaker 10: Hang on, Yeah, I mean it wasn't perfect by any means.
• 22:30
  Speaker 10: You know, the turnovers is what killed us tonight, as
• 22:32
  Speaker 10: far as keeping out the hell they stayed in the game.
• 22:35
  Speaker 10: But we had really good performances from other people, not
• 22:37
  Speaker 10: the usual. I thought Christian was great, Jonas was great,
• 22:41
  Speaker 10: Bruce's energy defensively, and then Jamal's I mean, the three
• 22:44
  Speaker 10: point shooting was insane.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: It's the NBA.
• 22:47
  Speaker 10: You just you just have to win the games.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: And I know we.
• 22:49
  Speaker 10: Tied the franchise record, I believe for most road wins.
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: Says a lot about this team. And I also think
• 22:54
  Speaker 10: it sums up with the season's been. You know, that's
• 22:57
  Speaker 10: such a wild number for all the injuries we've had,
• 22:59
  Speaker 10: but somehow we won these games on the road, not
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: this one, but just the whole season.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find a way to stay ahead
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a little bit.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Did you hear Adamman drop one of Moosure's lines there.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: It's actually it's one of Vick's lines that I glommed
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: on to to make fun of Vic.
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: He just said it normally.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: He did. He gave one of those Yeah, Noah, now
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: go to the sound.
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: When he's asked about the latest injuries to Peyton Watson
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: and Tim Mardway Junior, I don't want to call them injuries,
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: but they didn't finish the game, and you know, maybe
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: because it's Utah, they're playing, okay, see, maybe they finished,
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: but clearly there's something there.
• 23:39
  Speaker 10: Go ahead now, I don't know anything yet. Just this
• 23:42
  Speaker 10: has just been it's just every night. It seems like,
• 23:46
  Speaker 10: you know, they're trying to get Peyton a rhythm. As
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: far as I know as of now, it was just discomfort,
• 23:53
  Speaker 10: you know, Tim, same thing just didn't feel right after
• 23:57
  Speaker 10: some impact and so they didn't play in the second half.
• 24:00
  Speaker 10: But just it's just been what the season's been. We
• 24:03
  Speaker 10: just changed the rotation and keep it moving. Unluckily enough,
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: guys played well tonight, you know, to finish the game.
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: There was another one where he's asked about their status
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: and he just pawn it off and said keeps happening
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: just keeps happening.
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: And we said that at the beginning.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: The bottom line is I don't know what to do
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: with this now. Like, does Peyton Watson play on Saturday
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: get San Antonio?
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Do you sit him until the playoffs? Yeah?
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: I think so. I mean, let's be honest, you.
• 24:38
  Speaker 7: What's the original injury for Peyton Watson?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Hamstring?
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Miss hamstring?
• 24:42
  Speaker 7: So it's the hammy?
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, can I ask something real quick motion. Sure
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: you're gonna be anywhere from four to six, likely the
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: four seed, maybe the five, very unlikely the six, but
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: I guess all are possible.
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: If we're talking about health being the main concern here
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: and the number one thing you gotta worry about, how
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: much does it matter to you that in the first
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: round you get potentially a game seven at home over
• 25:13
  Speaker 5: the health of your team heading in the postseason.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I would rather be extended to seven games in advance
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: on and be a healthy team for Round two than
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: anything else.
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: You get five games left, do you put any thought
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: into Like, I'm not even gonna risk this nonsense anymore. Hey,
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: David Roddy, have fun getting thirty five minutes time?
• 25:31
  Speaker 7: Okay, But that.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Being said, it doesn't guarantee you anything. I mean, it doesn't.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: They've been trying to nurse these guys.
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: Along it guarants for months and months and months.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: And if you sit Peyton Watson an ag for the
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: next five games, I mean, I'm still going to feel
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: like they're gonna break down a round one anyway around
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: two or whatever.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: But it wouldn't happen before the postseason.
• 25:57
  Speaker 7: That's okay?
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: Do I completely if it happens in the first round,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: that it happens in the first round. But if you
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: could avoid that happening before the first round, do you
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: think about it?
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm worried about is this is that
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you've been trying to baby them as much as you can,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: all the treatment in their bodies respond, but then their
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: bodies are like you know what, I was kind of happier,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: be a little bit broke, and I'm like, no.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: No, man, don't do that. You know what I mean?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: That hamstring's like, Look, I know you've given me rest,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I know you've massaged me, I know you've worked me out.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: I know you've done all the right things, but I
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: just don't feel like stretching properly right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: What would you feel, Vic if David Adaman came out
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: and said, you know what, these injury things are so insane.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: I don't care what we end up in the in
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: the standings, we're gonna be four through six. Yeah, but
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna start David Roddy and we're gonna call up
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Tamar Bates from the G League and we're gonna We're
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: gonna do that for the last five games.
• 26:54
  Speaker 6: That doesn't solve anything. I mean, a soft tissue injury
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: could come up again.
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: But it wouldn't happen lead into the postseason.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: So I'm saying, I don't know, dude.
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, it just feels like one of those years
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: where they just can't avoid injury.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: It just feels cursed.
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: It's so weird, Like what the year they won the championship,
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: did you ever have any doubt about someone's available availability?
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: No?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Zero, No, it's just you roll out the ball and
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: there's the guys again.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Now you're just hoping upon hope a guy can play.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: It's amazing how different sports emphasize different muscle groups and
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: they break down or whatever. I can't ever remember a
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: hockey player going out with a hamstring or a calf ever.
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: Well, they just call it lower body.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but typically it's a collision. Yeah, you're right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: you know, it's you never.
• 27:49
  Speaker 7: Just see a guy skating up the ice in his
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: leg breaks down.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Like when Nacho's left yesterday for a minute. Thank god,
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: it was back on the.
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Bench in the Yeah, you know, he may be.
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: He was kind of shaking that right hand a little bit. Yeah,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: landed awkwardly. Made me nervous. I don't know what his
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: story is.
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: Still nervous.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not nervous nervous. No, I mean he came back
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: to the game, so I'm not nervous nervous. Yeah, you know,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: when he didn't emerge from the room to start the
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: third period, I'm like, oh god, no, But.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: He was on the bench like right away, wasn't he.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Well, Parker Kelly scored, then went to the bench. So
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: fourteen seconds in, Parker Kelly scores, and he walks down
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: the tunnel and joins him on the bench, and I'm like,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: thank God, you know, praise, praise baby Jesus.
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: That's a great thing. But I mean it was major nervous,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It does.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: TEXTA says Brett stopped talking. Who the hell is Roddy?
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: Roddy is a former CSU player who now plays with
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: the Nuggets.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: David Roddy is a former first round pick of the
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six ers.
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: He played in garbage time last night.
• 28:53
  Speaker 7: Who now plays for the Denver Nuggets.
• 28:55
  Speaker 9: Yea.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: And the other thing that I completely disagree with your
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: tactic of just guys. This person's right. Thirty eight to
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: fifty sitting doesn't help you get game ready. If you
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: sit guys from now to the playoffs and all of
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: a sudden they come in.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It's just not gonna work. Man. Guy's gotta play. Guys
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: gotta play.
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: Just for the record, I didn't say I would do it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: I said, what would you think if they said they
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: were going to do that because they were tired of
• 29:17
  Speaker 5: guys getting hurt? I just look, the most important thing here.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: What I do believe is this, I don't care whether
• 29:25
  Speaker 5: or not gets finishing in the standings anymore. It makes no
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: difference to me. Okay, whether you play the Lakers in
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: the first round Minnesota, Houston, you play them at home
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: in the first series, on the road in the first series.
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: I just want the team to be healthy. Well that's
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: I don't care about if they came seven.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: You know what, if they can't, if they just health
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: is just not in the car.
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Well then you're screwed. Then the season's over and that's
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: the way it goes. I mean, but if I can
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: try and do anything to make that happen.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: That's an element to the game that you can't you
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: can't coach that, you can't do that, you can't train
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: that either you're.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Lucky or you're not well.
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: I think vic if I'm David Adaman, guess who's not
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: playing for the rest of the year. Peyton Watson. I
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: don't know that.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: But see again, I go back to if you don't
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: play him and then you inject him into a game
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs. Have he not played but one one
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: or two games in the last two months, He's not
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: gonna be Peyton Watson.
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: And he had like forty points in his first two
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: coming back from the hammy.
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: It's you know, you know as well as I just saying,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: if a guy doesn't play, he's not gonna be the same.
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: You know that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: Well, the Avs played Gabe Landeskog for the first time
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: in three years.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Brett, in the middle of the season, Brett, be practical, Brett,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: What you have. The car jumped in out straight out
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: of college in the post season.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: All right, well, then let's take your approach.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: Don't play anybody for the rest of the season, just
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: playing in the playoffs and see what happened.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: Look, I know what you're saying, but look, you have
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: a real problem here with trying to keep guys healthy,
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: and the only way you're gonna do any type of
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: winning is with a healthy roster.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, their bodies just don't. Their bodies just
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: don't respond.
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: I take the different approach. I take the different approach.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: I I completely disagree with you. You're playing and if
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: you get hurt, you get.
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: Hurt, which I look, I'm fine with that too. I'm
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: not saying I even have a preference to any of
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: this stuff. It's just I'm asking, if you were David Adelman,
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: is there consideration to doing something like that. That's all.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I just it's hard to watch sometimes because I know
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: ag is holding back. I can see it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's definitely noticeable.
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Yes, reminder, keyword for this hour is crunch. So text
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: that in your first and last name to three oh
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: three five O four nine two five gets your chance
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: to get in ball arena for the game against Portland
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: on Monday night. So there are some news that just
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: broke in the NFL. I don't know what to make
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: of this. I don't know if this is insurance policy,
• 31:47
  Speaker 5: because we're all still like Fernana Mendez is the number
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: one overall pick.
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: Correct, Apparently his prote was remarkable.
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: The Raiders just signed Kirk Cousins. What a perfect mentor
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: perfect I thought Kirk wanted to start. That's why I'm
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: questioning this. So we'll get to that in just a second.
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: Stick around, all right, So Kirk Cousins, he signs on
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: with the Raiders, and he rejoins Clint Kubiak, who was
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: his uh I think quarterbacks coach of offensive coordinator, one
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: of the two I can't remember in Minnesota for three years. Again,
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I think, Vic, you're right. If if you're just talking
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: about a guy being a mentor to a young quarterback,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: then Kirk Cousins is certainly that type. In fact, Fernana
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: Mendoza has been compared to Kirk Cousins from a personality
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: standpoint too, which makes sense.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: The personalities could not be closer, the backgrounds, the way
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: they approach their craft, both ultra like Christian guys. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you that is the perfect match for me.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Supposed to be the decision.
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: I just like that. I thought Cousins won to start somewhere,
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: and I guess a lot of teams have kind of
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: filled that already, but like Arizona's one of those teams
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that's still kind of looking unless they're gonna play Brissette again.
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: Right, did you hear what Kubiak said at the owners meeting?
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Our intent is not to start our rookie quarterback week win.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: He doesn't want to start his rookie quarterback week one.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: I think that's insanity.
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: It's what he said. That's what he said into an
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: open microphone. He said those words.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: I think that's crazy. Like, honestly, if we're talking about
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: the number one overall pick, that guy's gotta play because
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: your team stinks, let him take his lumps early.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Build from there, like Mahomes didn't start.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Chiefs were good.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's different cases.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like the Chiefs were good. Like Aaron
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Rodgers didn't start well. They had Brett Flarv Like, yeah.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I understand you're throwing a blanket statement over this is
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: if one approach is wrong, I just think every case
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: is different.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not going to win, and I
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody in Raiderstown has any sort of aspirations
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: of being a playoff.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Team from the get go. No, maybe not, you know,
• 34:12
  Speaker 7: maybe not throw the kid to the wolves right away.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Let him ease into an opportunity, and I'll ease into
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: the job.
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: I just have Look, I just have a long standing
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: thought on this, especially with number one overall picks. You're
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: going to a bad team. You aren't going to do winning.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I don't know how much you can learn by sitting
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: on the sideline. And I think that if you are
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: too mentally maybe this is too harsh to say, too
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: mentally weak to not be able to deal with you
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: having some issues your rookie year, getting picked off, taking hits,
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, then you probably weren't going to be
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: good to start with. Like Peyton Manning went out and
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: threw thirty picks his first his rookie season.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: He fin didn't start for the entire seasons.
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: He's not a first overall pick. I mean he was
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: a sixth rounder with Drew Bledsoe in front of it.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Drake Maiden start right away.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: I think that was nuts. Yeah, I thought that was great.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, but see you're painting the pictures. If one
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: one path is the only path.
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm telling you my approach. My approach would always
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: be if I if I have the number one overall
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: pick and I'm taking a quarterback he is playing, Okay.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So my approach.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: So the why Cousins and he's willing to mentor him?
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: Willing to is the word that would be my approach.
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: Why I start him right away for you're gonna get
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: your butt kicked.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So then why is Kirk Cousins there to be
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: a mentor as a backup? Is what I would have
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: him for.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know he's thirty seven years old.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kirk Cousins to the Raiders doesn't bother me at all.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: What do you bother you as from a broncos per se, Yeah,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: that doesn't know the Raiders, doesn't That doesn't bother me whatsoever.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: You know, In all honesty, I'm not even really concerned
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: about the Raiders. I don't even necessarily and those of
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: may be a total stud I don't know. I mean
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: it looks like he is, but we'll see. Yeah, but
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I don't start worry about Frenanda, Mendoze and the Raiders
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: for another couple three years, prob.
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny Brett sam Donald was thrown to
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: the Wolves right away and he saw ghosts and it
• 36:13
  Speaker 6: took him years of rehab to come back and win
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: a Super Bowl.
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: I think you'd just be playing for a bad team too.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I mean that could be a part of it.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what approach, That's what Mendoza is going to
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: be doing, playing for a bad team.
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I just I don't think my
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: mind would ever change on the idea. If I'm drafting
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: somebody number one overall, then that guy's gonna have to
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: play like You're gonna have to figure it out. Why
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Because you're you're brought in here to do that like
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: you were. You were here with the expectation that I
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: know you're going to struggle, but you're learning on the
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: job and that's okay, and if you make mistakes, we'll
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: watch the film walk correct it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: So why didn't Mahomes start right away.
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: Because he had Alex Smith and the Chiefs were making
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: the playoffs. Like, it's a different situation than a team
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: that went two and fifteen the year before.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But you still want quarterback to learn on the job.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: What's the difference?
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: Look again, if if you're picking for a team that's
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: made the postseason, you have the luxury of doing that.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: It's what the Green Bay Packers have done for years
• 37:14
  Speaker 5: because they've had Hall of famers there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: You guys could be arguing over something that is not
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: even potentially going to happen. Yeah, here's what I think.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: You get him in there. You see what Kubiak season.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Mendoza right away?
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: Is the kid ready to go right away?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: And if he's ready to go, if he's the overall
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: number one pick, we already know he's got tremendous talent.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: He's now a national champion, he's a winner. So if
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: he's able to handle that week one and go okay, good.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: If not, you've got the thirty seven year old veteran
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: there to make plays or whatever.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: Let me give you an example as a stop gap.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Did Bo Nicks really struggle the first few games of
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: his career?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Like was it.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: It looked pretty.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Bad a little bit.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Do you think it helped him by getting that stuff
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: out of the way early as opposed to have Stidham
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: started the first four weeks. I don't know what about
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Drake may I mean what about it?
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, d he didn't start.
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: Right away, and he played on a crappy team, and
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: he came back and he was at MVP candidate.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Maybe they maybe they would have been better if he started.
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Okay, So what I'm telling you is not every path
• 38:14
  Speaker 6: is equal. You say start right away, and I don't
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: disagree with you. I'm just saying you are so hard
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: and fast on that, and I'm telling you you can't
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: be hard and fast because everybody's different.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I mean, how about this. If if I drafted Anthony Richardson,
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: maybe that's a different story that dude had like twelve starts.
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: If I drafted Trey Lance, maybe that's a different story.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: And Dose has been a guy who's been around football
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: for a long time. I don't know how much he's
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: going to learn so much Indiana's rookie year by sitting
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: down and watching things as opposed to doing it. Like
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: everybody who's calling me an idiot on the text line.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: I'll give you my perspective, like.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I'll call you an idiot leve on the air.
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: That's fine. Yeah, I think you learn things by doing
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: the job.
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: I don't disagree if I sat here is different if
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: I'm trying to think like when I never hosted a
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: radio show and I was doing like producing, and it
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: was like, sit back and watch this guy, and then
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: you'll I'm like, I kind of just have to do it.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: That's how I'm gonna learn.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: What I'm telling you is I know what Kobiak has said,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: but that's right now. No, I know, yeah, I mean
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: you're you're arguing a point that very well could be moved.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: By the time we get to the end of July,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: he's gonna go, oh, you know what, this kid is
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: so far advanced. He he's gonna start week one. You
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: were what's the what's the alternative?
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: At the backup? Again? What's his face? MiG Whatson? What's
• 39:30
  Speaker 7: his name?
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: We time out the raiders? Back up the skinny geek?
• 39:34
  Speaker 7: What you okay?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Over there?
• 39:36
  Speaker 5: Wrong pipe?
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: What's O'Connell?
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Thank you there?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, would you rather have Aidan O'Connell
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: or Kirk Cousins just in case.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: I just think it matters on the player, matters who
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: the player is and how they're made up, and what
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: your team ambitions are. That all matters that comes in
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: and play. That's why every case is different. It's the
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: only analogy I have this. Remember one time when Danila
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: Gallinari still lived here, he said, I want.
• 40:05
  Speaker 7: To play golf.
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Go okay, let's let's get you some clubs and teach
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: you how to play. So I brought him up to
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: Rolling Hills. He goes, all right, let's go golf. I go, well,
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: you can't just like go golf. You gotta like learn
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: how to golf. You can't just like go He goes,
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: oh no, I want to go golf. I go, yeah,
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: but you have to hit balls.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: You have to learn that. You have to learn. And
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he just wanted to skip that part and go golf.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: What's that clip from Ovechkin? Didn't he get a hole
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: in one? And he goes, I hit it and I
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: went in Remember that that clip of him?
• 40:38
  Speaker 7: Now I don't find that.
• 40:39
  Speaker 5: Oh you it's like the first time you ever went golfing,
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: you got like a hole in one, or you like
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: made a made one from the fairway or something like that. Really, yes,
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: but him saying trying to explain to his buddy what
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: just happened because he doesn't know golf. Yeah, now he
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: try and find it. Uh, text, you're saying, that's called practice, brett.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: I again, Yes, practice helps, but being in the middle
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: of the fight, being there when the bullets are flying
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: is different in practice, practice practice. I could practice doing
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: a podcast when you're live on the air, moj you
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: could practice calling an AVS game the second that cameras
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: live on you. It's a different thing, isn't it.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And last night was a bit of a last
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: two games have been a bit of a struggle bus
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: because both days have taken a little cough.
• 41:25
  Speaker 7: Syrup in the day. Yeah, trying to get rid of
• 41:28
  Speaker 7: this thing.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: That's that's DeMarcus Russell.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: JaMarcus.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, good point. What did you call the call syrup?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: He took scissor, right, scissor.
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: And that's sprite with cough medicine or coding or something
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Mosures of the scissor.
• 41:50
  Speaker 5: Three six months you had a whole song about it. Really,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: sip in on some scissors, zip zip in, sip zip in.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, moser. You called fourteen goal last night.
• 42:01
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I know you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Should have a sore throat anyway, So I gotta get
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: off the scissorup daytime dequal scissorp shark.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: So you've never seen Ave can do this, So I've
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: never seen it. He never golfed, And so here's a
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know if we have the video with this
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: or if this is just gonna be audio. But what
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: are you thinking here, Nelly? You tell me as you said.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I shot there with that. I got it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: I saw got playing again, play that again, played again.
• 42:44
  Speaker 9: I hid him.
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I shot there without it. I got it.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: What do you say?
• 42:52
  Speaker 7: I shot it with an arrow? I sweating, God, it's awesome.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I shot there with that.
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: I got it.
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: I can't What is he say?
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: It's like, I shot it over there and I got
• 43:02
  Speaker 7: I shot.
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: It over there and I got it.
• 43:04
  Speaker 7: That's what it is.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: You must think golf so easy. If he did that
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: the first time he played, like, what's the big deal?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I throw a got.
• 43:11
  Speaker 7: I love that drop. Keep that a drop. I love that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: So it was a CAPS charity tournament back in two
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: thousand and six, and he had it was a hole
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: in one he got a hole in one.
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: It's amazing, Clink Kubiak, I'm looking at this right now,
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: said the other day on NFL Network.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Being interviewed, he said.
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: He prefers that a rookie quarterback learns from a veteran
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: before starting, and then two days later they sank Kirk Cousins.
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: Well, he knew that was common for sure, obviously. Yeah,
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: so three oh three, five oh four oh nine two five.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: By the way, there was something really stupid broncos wise
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: yesterday that I don't even know if you guys want
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: to talk about it, but did you see that? It
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: was the only reason I want to bring this up.
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: There was actual reputable new agencies saying what are we
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: doing here?
• 44:09
  Speaker 7: That's the ultimate April fools fools.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: But it wasn't. It wasn't April fools. Like, there's no
• 44:15
  Speaker 5: haha gotcha. At the end of it, what reason would
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: there be?
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: What in the world would you why?
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: What?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Somebody helped me understand?
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: So why we can get back to that in just
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: a second stick around.
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: I forgot