Latest / The Junto Podcast / E32: Citizen Voices: The Rise of Independent Journalism
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- 0:10Hello, America. Welcome to the Junto podcast, where we promote the practical
- 0:15applications of critical thinking and bold creativity.
- 0:18I am your host, Edgar Mills. Thanks for joining.
- 0:28Hello, America. Welcome to episode 32 of the Junto podcast.
- 0:33I appreciate you guys for listening and sticking with me.
- 0:37So in the modern age we live in, an individual voice, my voice,
- 0:43for instance, can reach potentially millions of people.
- 0:49Is citizen journalism a viable expression of what we consider libertarian ideals.
- 1:01Is it the ultimate expression of libertarian ideals, the ability to speak freely to the masses?
- 1:09And does it empower people or does it harm people?
- 1:13So it may empower the speaker, but how can we be sure what that speaker is saying to the world?
- 1:20How can we be sure that that's empowering other people or hurting other people or whatever.
- 1:27But it is definitely true that we have the capability and the capacity to speak
- 1:32up and to speak out against all manner of issues and injustices and just anything
- 1:40we want to talk about. And somebody will listen.
- 1:43I've discovered that. There's people listening to me right now. Somebody will listen.
- 1:48So this past weekend, I went to the Great Create DIY Festival.
- 1:55And it's a libertarian-centric get-together.
- 2:00And you have speakers. I was a speaker, and I talked about alternative networks
- 2:06and how to not function off-grid, but kind of create a, well, anyway,
- 2:14an alternate network of people who can help you to do things outside of the sort of mainstream.
- 2:21And then, well, plenty of people spoke, but one guy I was particularly interested
- 2:25in, I met a guy named Brad Binkley, and he is the host of the Propaganda Report podcast.
- 2:35And after I listened to him talk, you know, I was getting, I left,
- 2:39I left the festival a little early.
- 2:43Excuse me. I left the festival a little bit early and I caught him in the parking lot.
- 2:48And so we had a pretty good conversation and a meaningful conversation.
- 2:53And I was happy to meet, meet the guy. And he seemed like a very genuinely good
- 2:57dude. And he had a genuine passion to sort of expose truth and parse out propaganda that,
- 3:06flows freely across our television and interweb digits.
- 3:12And I've listened, I didn't know about that podcast, and now I do,
- 3:16and I've listened to a couple episodes.
- 3:18And yeah, I like the guy. He's from Georgia here. He lives, I think he might
- 3:22be from Georgia, but he certainly lives here.
- 3:25And I also think he does comedy as well. Brad Binkley.
- 3:29But anyway, he inspired me to, because his topic at the Great Create was citizen journalism.
- 3:36And so all the things he said I thought was very interesting,
- 3:39so I came home and kind of looked in a little deeper, and I sort of formulated
- 3:44my own thoughts on the whole thing.
- 3:48So, well, let's just define it real quick. Citizen journalism,
- 3:51I guess, is just kind of like reporting, right? News reporting.
- 3:56Well, what do you call news? Anything, right?
- 3:59Topical reporting just by non-professional individuals who have the means to do it.
- 4:05All you need is a phone, to be honest, or a laptop, and that's really it.
- 4:12And on some of these platforms, you don't even need that. Well,
- 4:15I mean, you could write a paper and go upload it at the public library and put it on Substack.
- 4:20There's a lot of venues these days. There's a lot of ways to get your word and
- 4:25your message out there to the public. So citizen journalism So.
- 4:32One journalist slash author, she defines citizen journalism,
- 4:36and this is kind of an in-depth definition,
- 4:41as an alternative and activist form of newsgathering and reporting that functions
- 4:46outside the mainstream media institutions,
- 4:49often as a response to shortcomings in the professional journalistic field,
- 4:54which uses similar journalistic practices as traditional or mainstream journalism.
- 5:02But is driven by different objectives and ideals and relies on alternative sources of legitimacy.
- 5:11Yeah, that was a very meaty definition.
- 5:16So I think one of the important parts of that definition is sources of legitimacy.
- 5:23Whether they're alternative sources or not, they still need to be able to sort of vet the information.
- 5:31Because anybody can put anything out there and we, oh my God,
- 5:34we can go on the internet and you'll see that anybody does.
- 5:40And citizen journalism has, I mean, sharply risen, I guess, since,
- 5:45well, you know, I'm thinking back, and obviously I wasn't born until 72,
- 5:52but there was, I seem to remember there always being little independent newspapers
- 5:58and little independent zines and things.
- 6:01Now, some of those are for, you know, it's artistic expression and comedy and
- 6:06things, But others were very pointed in sort of political critique and whatnot.
- 6:12But now, man, the computers, the Internet, it's all there.
- 6:17But the citizen journalism has really, the more we see traditional media,
- 6:25mainstream traditional media, there's a mistrust there.
- 6:30People don't trust what they hear on Fox and CNN.
- 6:36And rightfully so, in my opinion, which is why this topic is so interesting
- 6:40to me. The traditional media is failing us, folks.
- 6:44They're feeding us agendas, not unbiased, objective information.
- 6:51So I would guess and I would say that a lot of the citizen journalists,
- 6:55the people out there doing podcasts or out there on the street type reporting,
- 7:00you know, they have a little bit of skepticism toward not only mainstream media,
- 7:06but maybe even a little bit toward the government and or at least authority.
- 7:11But what it does, though, and what I think it does is it opens up.
- 7:16It's like a free market, a free exchange of information and ideas that you don't
- 7:24have to go through any gatekeepers.
- 7:26It is a proper free exchange. It's a proper free market of ideas.
- 7:32And we know ideas are strong. And we know ideas, good ideas can gain a lot of
- 7:37traction. We know those. We know these things.
- 7:40And what it also does, though, it decentralizes like the informational power.
- 7:47Do you understand what I mean? When the information is out there for all to
- 7:51consume, like the raw information is out there for all to consume,
- 7:57then the small sort of elites don't have a lock on it.
- 8:04They don't, they don't control what gets out or in what way it's delivered anymore.
- 8:11Now they only control that for, you know, the, yeah, the mainstream platforms.
- 8:16But I would say citizen journalism outnumbers mainstream journalists.
- 8:22Who knows, man? God, I don't even know what the ratio would be right now because
- 8:27anybody could potentially be a citizen journalist.
- 8:31So it takes away that power from the elites, and it reduces our reliance on
- 8:37literally government-influenced or corporate-controlled narratives.
- 8:42We don't rely on CNN and Fox. We can hear it on CNN and Fox,
- 8:48and then go, oh, whatever, and then go find your favorite conspiracy theorists
- 8:51or any other. I'm just using extremes there.
- 8:55And then you yourself can make a better informed decision on what you think about a thing.
- 9:02Yeah it allows us to when we get information now that's not to say a citizen
- 9:08journal a regular guy that's not to say i can't be a biased person i can be
- 9:13but you have to take what i say,
- 9:16and and process it just like you do mainstream media it's just that the fact
- 9:23that the matter is i don't really have that you can see just by the nature of
- 9:27who i am and many of these other people are.
- 9:30Now, I don't consider myself a citizen journalist, folks.
- 9:34Strictly opinion here. Strictly editorial.
- 9:37But what I'm saying is, you know my motives.
- 9:40I run a shooting business and a leadership development business,
- 9:46and I don't have deeper motives.
- 9:49I'm not being controlled by a corporate anyone. I'm not on the staff of some
- 9:55political action committee. Do you know?
- 10:00So, you can sort of, generally speaking, probably put a little more faith in
- 10:04what you're getting from a regular guy.
- 10:07I would guess. That would be my guess.
- 10:12Everybody has the capability to reach the entire world now, now, in today's society.
- 10:24Now, establishment media, like corporate media, they have sort of,
- 10:29they got a network system, right?
- 10:30They got a main whoever, let's say Fox, and then there's all these affiliates, and it's like a system.
- 10:39And never mind whether it's over the airwaves or over the digits or whatever.
- 10:43And then they have basically reading off the same script.
- 10:48So a Fox News affiliate in Atlanta is probably saying very close to the same
- 10:54exact thing as a Fox News affiliate in Dallas or a Fox News affiliate in Portland.
- 11:00So there's that. There's that.
- 11:03But we have the capability now to go direct point to point from my computer
- 11:11to your ears, from my microphone to your ears via social media,
- 11:17via audio director software, via Podbean, via Spotify, the whole works.
- 11:27Point to point, man, straight from my mouth to your ears without any network interference.
- 11:36And hopefully for as long as possible, without any commercials.
- 11:40And we bypass straight past these traditional gatekeepers.
- 11:43And if you guys remember, I did a paper and a pod, well, I did a podcast on
- 11:48the reemergence of the American counterculture.
- 11:52And one of the parts of that I was talking about was musicians and the capacity
- 11:57now to make music in your basement,
- 11:59produce it, edit and produce and, and just distribute it from your damn computer, from your basement.
- 12:10And potentially hit it big. That's what technology has done for us.
- 12:14So all of you out there, you know, there's a love-hate relationship with this technology.
- 12:20It is very beneficial to some. If you use it correctly, you can take advantage
- 12:25of it and do great things with it.
- 12:27And that's what this citizen journalism stuff is.
- 12:30And I liken, I say citizen journalism, and I liken that to a lot of the podcasts,
- 12:36because a lot of podcasts are like, you know, they're delivering some news.
- 12:41But, you know, largely you just have to understand that it's from an opinion perspective.
- 12:46An opinion perspective, but hopefully a good podcaster who's trying to deliver
- 12:52news to you will caveat by saying, hey,
- 12:55this, it's either second or third hand effect or sources or deliver their,
- 13:02you know, at least that they have a direct source or something like that.
- 13:08So we'll get to the pros and cons.
- 13:12Yeah, reach and accessibility. We have it now. We have absolute reach and accessibility.
- 13:21Traditional media is on the decline and has been. And that's measured.
- 13:25So I got some statistics here.
- 13:27And that's measured by U.S. ad revenue spending.
- 13:30And it's 18.3% in 2025.
- 13:37That's ad revenue spent on traditional media.
- 13:42And television ratings and news like CNN and all that.
- 13:47All of those viewerships are down, like big numbers, like 42%.
- 13:52I think CNN, quarter three of 2025 is down 42% of total viewers. Yeah.
- 14:01Now, what number did that start with? I don't know.
- 14:05Just standard network television, down. There are several newspapers.
- 14:10The Atlanta Journal and Constitution has just recently, I think,
- 14:15one October, gone out of print.
- 14:18I used to read the Atlanta Journal and Constitution back in the day.
- 14:22They had a liberal lean. They had a hard left lean, to be honest.
- 14:26They got out more and more as they went.
- 14:29I'm sure, yeah. Did the Atlanta Journal and Constitution go out of business?
- 14:32No. I'm sure they have an online presence now.
- 14:36Well, they've had an online presence. They just don't do print newspaper anymore.
- 14:41It's just the times are already changing.
- 14:45So, yeah, newspaper circulation from 2015 to 25, 65% drop in newspaper circulation.
- 14:54And that was from, now they do have hard numbers here, 37 million to 13 million.
- 15:00And to be honest with you, I'm surprised 13 million is still a number.
- 15:05Now, oddly enough, what traditional media has not dropped off? Yeah, talk radio.
- 15:15Now, it's interesting that that statistic exists, and I'm going to tell you why.
- 15:20When I started doing this podcast stuff, that was one of the things I would
- 15:24talk to friends or talk to people about it.
- 15:27And I said, the podcast of today remind me of talk radio of the 70s and 80s.
- 15:34In the 70s and 80s, talk radio was huge because you're driving in your car.
- 15:39You're going to work, right? That's when I listen to stuff is when I'm in the car.
- 15:46Yeah, man, people would tune in on their AM radio, pick up whatever,
- 15:51Neil Bortz, and just listen to his show.
- 15:56I'll admit it. I used to listen to Howard Stern back in the late 90s, man, mid-90s.
- 16:03That was basically talk radio. Now, it wasn't AM radio. It was on FM, big stations.
- 16:10But, yeah, talk radio is still holding fast, and that's pretty interesting.
- 16:16That's pretty interesting.
- 16:17Now, what's the commonality? I said podcasts remind me of old-school talk radio.
- 16:23Yeah, you might be delivering some news, but it's a personality,
- 16:27whatever that personality is.
- 16:30And they're delivering commentary, opinion, or analysis.
- 16:35Yeah. And so you get a chance to hear a different perspective,
- 16:40and you can consume that and process it.
- 16:43And then we're like, okay, I disagree, or I agree.
- 16:47And it kind of gets the wheels turning, right?
- 16:50Instead of just getting something from CNN, they're telling you how to feel,
- 16:55oh, this egregious thing happened. And they're leaving out and they're selectively
- 16:59leaving out details and things like that.
- 17:02So yeah, talk radio, it's pretty interesting that talk radio is holding tight.
- 17:07In contrast to that, all the digital stuff is up.
- 17:13Podcast listeners are estimated at monthly listenership. Now this is overall,
- 17:18this is not one podcast, right? It's just generalized numbers.
- 17:21100 million plus monthly listenerships on podcasts. Yeah, that's a lot of people.
- 17:30That is one third of America. Yeah, that's a lot.
- 17:35100 million plus ad revenue on social media is at somewhere around 2.3 billion.
- 17:43And something like 54% of Americans consume their news from the internet, from social platforms.
- 17:56So, and here's an example. During the election campaign, Joe Rogan interviewed Trump.
- 18:05And that, I think that YouTube, you know, it was on YouTube as well.
- 18:10It's on different platforms. But I think the YouTube video has 40 million plus views.
- 18:17That's pretty insane. That's pretty insane.
- 18:21Now, Joe Rogan's been in the entertainment business for a long time.
- 18:24And he's earned his way and he's earned his due.
- 18:29But it's crazy that one person can reach 40 million people.
- 18:35That's insane. And like him or not, whatever.
- 18:39So that's some crazy stuff, man. It's crazy stuff. And I like it. I think it's awesome.
- 18:44I do think it's the ultimate libertarian expression of free speech and freedom of association.
- 18:51Because guess what? I put this podcast out.
- 18:54I expected like, you know, at least three people to listen to it.
- 19:00At least three people to listen to it. You know, we're up somewhere around,
- 19:04I don't know, six, 7,000 listeners.
- 19:07And that's, hey man, it ain't 40 million, but it's pretty awesome.
- 19:11I'm pretty, I'm pretty stoked about that.
- 19:14So the decentralization of, of, of free speech, man.
- 19:18Yeah, you can go out on the street and have all the free speech you want But
- 19:21now you can get on And you can get on the internet And you can get on the socials
- 19:25And you can get on a podcast,
- 19:27And you can reach millions If you put it out there, someone will find it And
- 19:34appreciate it Yeah, that's what I think,
- 19:37I was talking about the gatekeepers earlier, you know, with the traditional media.
- 19:41Now, look, the digital world is not all rainbows and unicorns, right?
- 19:46There are gatekeepers in the social media space. And who am I talking about?
- 19:52The Zuckerbergs, right? The Dorsey, the people who, you know,
- 19:56started this stuff with all the best intentions, or even if they didn't have
- 20:00any intentions, just had no idea
- 20:01how it was going to grow, which I don't think many of them really did.
- 20:06And then they become these behemoths of information flow.
- 20:10So now we got gatekeepers. You remember also during the elections where some
- 20:15of these major platforms were
- 20:18complying with political sort of guidance to suppress certain information.
- 20:28Happened. So there's still gatekeepers, folks. Don't think there's not.
- 20:32However, it's just a little more, it's a little more free. We'll say it that way.
- 20:39But what's another risk? Okay, nevermind that part. We'll get to that part again.
- 20:42We'll probably touch on that again here in the future.
- 20:45What's the big risk though? You see it all the time and I talk about it all
- 20:48the time. The big risk is that you get into an echo chamber.
- 20:52Now you do that with traditional media too. Yeah, you get that with traditional media, too.
- 20:58But these echo chambers, the problem is with the digital world and the modern
- 21:03world is that these echo chambers, some of them are pretty extreme.
- 21:09It might be a niche market. You might not have that many people listening,
- 21:14but the people that are listening are frigging fanatical.
- 21:19And they're not hearing anything else except these extreme views.
- 21:24So it's good and it's bad. I think it's more good than bad.
- 21:28I think that we have a free market and a voluntary exchange of ideas over the
- 21:36traditional corporate or state media.
- 21:40But just mind you that there's still bad players everywhere.
- 21:44Bad players everywhere.
- 21:46All right, so one of the big gripes, I think, is...
- 21:53From the establishment, you know, the mainstream people, you know,
- 21:57they all have a degree from,
- 21:59they all have a journalist degree or communications degree from NYU or,
- 22:06you know, Berkeley, UC Berkeley.
- 22:11And the citizen journalist might not have anything. Hell, you might not even
- 22:15have graduated high school for that matter.
- 22:18So they're on about qualification. What qualifies me? What qualifies Edgar Mills
- 22:22to share his opinion with the world? Well, I mean, what does?
- 22:27My inherent right to speak my mind, right? You ain't got to listen to it.
- 22:32But I have a platform and inherent right to share my point of view.
- 22:39If people listen to it and believe it or follow it or agree with it,
- 22:45now that's pissing off the establishment media, right?
- 22:49But he's not qualified. I'm qualified.
- 22:52Well, what are these people who are claiming these qualifications?
- 22:56If they're just reading from a script, they're just reading from a teleprompter, an approved narrative.
- 23:03What good is that? What good is that degree?
- 23:07Because that's what they are doing, folks. We know that, right?
- 23:10So what the citizen journalist provides is, well, one, potentially firsthand
- 23:16information, unfiltered information, and insights that probably challenge what
- 23:24the mainstream narrative is.
- 23:26Now, how genuine, you know, again, you have to make that assessment on your
- 23:32own, but how genuine is Don Lemon? You know what I mean?
- 23:36He's nothing but a caricature. A guy opens his mouth.
- 23:40I may as well be watching a cartoon. And he apparently is an expert, right?
- 23:46He is apparently a qualified expert.
- 23:51Yeah, we got to get to it, right? How thorough is the news or the information
- 23:58we're getting from the journalist, the citizen journalist?
- 24:02And how truthful is it? How accurate is it?
- 24:06Well, the experts, the mainstream folks, they follow some standards of journalistic
- 24:13integrity, at least superficially.
- 24:15At least superficially, they do.
- 24:17I really think it's only superficial.
- 24:20Because no matter what the standards that they measure, the quality and the
- 24:28truthfulness of the story, they still have to stay on the company line.
- 24:33They still have to support the company narrative.
- 24:37And if they deviate, I mean, we've seen in the past, if you deviate, you get in the boot.
- 24:42In contrast, does the citizen journalist have a standard?
- 24:48Well, what we do is timely information, and it could be timely and accurate information.
- 24:56But if you happen to be a guy on the ground in some protest,
- 25:00some riot, at very minimum, you're getting legitimate, unfiltered, uncut video.
- 25:07Now, that can be manipulated as well. The good thing about technology is now
- 25:12that the technology exists to be able to tell when these videos have been manipulated,
- 25:18same with mainstream media. They manipulate.
- 25:21There's been multiple lawsuits of mainstream news being sued for, what's it called?
- 25:30Slander, libel, slander or libel, I guess, for manipulating video to make it
- 25:36something look different.
- 25:38Famously, I want to say CNN had a video of Rogan where they manipulated lighting
- 25:43to make him look very unhealthy and very rough looking as opposed to the original
- 25:52lighting in a video where he just looked like it was normal Joe Rogan.
- 25:56So that's crazy, man. That's crazy that they do that.
- 26:00That shows you, they didn't just start doing that, by the way.
- 26:03Like the news shows you what they want to show you, what the company line is.
- 26:10And without anything else to compare it to, you're just like,
- 26:14look at that. That's what it is.
- 26:16Yeah. So the citizen journalist may not be accurate.
- 26:22That's the downside is you may get some uneducated, biased,
- 26:28you know breakdown of what's going on in front of them
- 26:31but also it might be very raw and you
- 26:34might just be getting the actual event as it unfolds and then you can make the
- 26:39the analysis on your own but i'll give you an example the hurricanes in in the
- 26:48southeast here in north carolina and stuff like that helene.
- 26:53Citizen journalists, there was videos all over the place from people on the
- 26:57ground who were absolutely ripping FEMA.
- 27:02Now, the mainstream news, FEMA was doing all, oh, yeah, we're out there working, working, working.
- 27:09That was a debacle, and, yeah, FEMA dropped the ball on it.
- 27:15Well, if you look back, we'll see that what is FEMA's real job in life anyway?
- 27:21Is it to manage hurricanes?
- 27:23Nah, man, it's a cleverly worded acronym, Federal Emergency Management Agency.
- 27:31At any rate, yeah, citizen journalists, man, they were out there showing that failure real time.
- 27:39And then citizen, charitable citizens were behind the rebuilding there and the help that got there.
- 27:47In fact, I'm proudly was a link in the chain to get, you know,
- 27:54generator to some people who needed some help, man.
- 27:58So regular citizens are out there doing the thing.
- 28:02So professionals versus, versus citizens, there's another podcast dude out there.
- 28:10He's pretty famous. I think Dave Smith, his podcast is called part of the problem.
- 28:16He critiques the expert class, like pretty hard, pretty hard because what,
- 28:23you know, what makes an expert an expert?
- 28:25Is it because you went to college and you got a degree and you've been working
- 28:29at CNN for three or four years? So now you're an expert.
- 28:32Or is it potentially that if I'm speaking on military matters and I derive my
- 28:40expertise through the fact that I was in the army for 25 years and I'm speaking
- 28:45on matters that I've seen firsthand.
- 28:47So who's the expert, really? You know what I mean?
- 28:50Who's the expert, really? Are you an expert because you took political science
- 28:55and now you're covering the war in Ukraine?
- 29:00Yeah, I don't know, man. I like the way Dave Smith kind of rips on the expert class, though.
- 29:08And we can point to the COVID debacle, folks. We can point to that to show you
- 29:13where the experts were full of shit.
- 29:17Absolutely full of shit. And it's all coming out now. It's all slowly trickling out, folks.
- 29:23The real answers and the truth are slowly trickling out.
- 29:27Not sensationalized Certainly not to be seen on mainstream media But the so-called
- 29:35experts Led us down a ridiculously.
- 29:40Dangerous path At minimum But yeah, they're elitists These so-called experts
- 29:46This expert class of journalists They're elitists They're all connected,
- 29:50folks They're all connected Right?
- 29:54The news and the entertainment industry and the political industry, they're all connected.
- 30:00And they manipulate information to their end. That's the way it is.
- 30:05A thing you're seeing, well, you've been seeing for the past couple of years, those deepfake videos.
- 30:10I tell you, citizen journalists debunk deepfakes faster than regular journalists.
- 30:17You, things you see on social media come and go before the mainstream media ever gets a grasp of it.
- 30:28You'll get, you'll get information a week and a half later from,
- 30:34from mainstream media because they got to figure out how they want to craft
- 30:37it up and edit it up and there and, and shape the narrative.
- 30:41So from a libertarian's perspective, yeah, man, we think that the professional
- 30:48world is generally speaking over credentialed.
- 30:52If you got to go to school longer to be a hairstylist than you do to be a cop,
- 30:58there's a problem. That's a weird problem with credentialing.
- 31:02Yeah, that's crazy. It doesn't make any sense.
- 31:08Libertarians kind of believe and agree and even celebrate the abolishment of licensing,
- 31:22professional licensing.
- 31:25Because even then, let's say I go to college or I go to some school to get some credential.
- 31:32Who's the jackass teaching the class?
- 31:36Is it some jackass that went to school to get a master's and whatever,
- 31:42couldn't get a job doing anything in the field, so became a professor to teach
- 31:47the same thing over again?
- 31:48I'll use anthropology as an example of that.
- 31:53Think I know an anthropology graduate who I'm pretty sure is working at Walmart.
- 32:01I guess that's a place to study anthropology.
- 32:05I guess. Yeah, man.
- 32:09Too much credentialing out there as it is. I believe experience counts as much as anything.
- 32:16But all this credentialing does is creates this little elitist sort of monopoly
- 32:22on the information, right? Monopoly on the information.
- 32:26Now, as citizen journalists, we need to understand that, yeah,
- 32:31we should have our own standard of integrity and our own standards for fact-checking and things like that.
- 32:39That stuff does need to be, we need to deliver accurate information.
- 32:45So what are speaking of corporate media and citizen journalists,
- 32:53well, let's say independent podcasts.
- 32:56Let's take corporate-owned media, sort of the broader term, and then independent podcasts.
- 33:04So let's look at a thing. What are the motives for independence?
- 33:07Guys like me, what are the motives?
- 33:10Normally, it's kind of driven by a passion, right?
- 33:15And I just want to share things that I'm interested in and passionate about.
- 33:21No benefit in lying about a thing.
- 33:25I have no benefit in sensationalizing or downplaying anything.
- 33:31I'm talking about things that interest me, and I'm opening the door to be corrected
- 33:36on things, and I'm just sharing an opinion.
- 33:39So I think most independent people, that's what it is. It's just passion.
- 33:45And with that, I mean, there's always going to be some conflict.
- 33:49There's always going to be somebody who wants to shit on you.
- 33:53But, well, I'll give you some, okay, part of the problem with Dave Smith.
- 33:58Now, he's got a big podcast.
- 34:00It's not Joe Rogan big, but I mean, I think he's got like half a million plus, right?
- 34:08But he's clearly passionate about delivering the analysis that he delivers.
- 34:14I don't know. I don't think he's
- 34:16doing it for a money grab. I think he's passionate about what he does.
- 34:20And then the guy I told you I met this past weekend, Brad Binkley, the propaganda report.
- 34:27Now you talk to that guy for 30 seconds. You see that he has a passion about what he's doing.
- 34:32Yeah, absolutely. And then my friends, I got Elizabeth and Zach,
- 34:39they have a podcast called Banish Big Brother.
- 34:42Now I can tell you those two people have no motive no ulterior motives whatsoever
- 34:50except to inform you, the general public,
- 34:55about surveillance overreach, state surveillance overreach.
- 35:01And they have a genuine, hardcore-to-the-bone passion about spreading that information.
- 35:08There is no gain in them lying about what they're doing. They're not making money off of it.
- 35:19My friend Jake has a podcast called Free Georgia Podcast.
- 35:23And all of these are all, the ones I've just all mentioned, they're all libertarian-esque podcasts.
- 35:28And what does that mean? They're just, you know, they're about freedom,
- 35:32right? About freedom. That's all.
- 35:35But yeah, Free Georgia Podcast. And I think my bud Jake's getting ready to pass
- 35:40the baton over to a host and her name is Kat.
- 35:45I don't know her last name, but I did a little five or ten minute spot with
- 35:51them this weekend, and she seems very nice, and she seems very genuine.
- 35:56And I'm sure that she has no ulterior motives other than just to deliver news
- 36:01about libertarian-esque issues, especially as they pertain to the state of Georgia.
- 36:07Yeah, yeah. So what about corporate motives then?
- 36:12We all know what the corporate motives are right profit and influence that is it,
- 36:20that every owner has an
- 36:23has has a has a agenda and and
- 36:27probably the majority of that agenda is profit make money and expand make money
- 36:35and expand so i'm gonna say i'm gonna there are about six corporations out there
- 36:42controlling all of the information in America.
- 36:47Comcast, which is a cable company, among other things, owns NBC.
- 36:53Disney, the wonderful world of Disney, owns ABC.
- 36:58Warner Brothers owns CNN.
- 37:03Paramount owns CBS. Who does Sony, who else does Sony own?
- 37:10I can't remember who Sony owns. And then Amazon owns MGM.
- 37:15So that's all your entertainment and news, right, all packaged up.
- 37:20And you can tell even watching these streaming platforms, you know,
- 37:23you can kind of see where they're willing to go, what they're willing to let
- 37:28you see and what they're not.
- 37:30Yeah, you can see that. But those companies I just called out own about 90%.
- 37:35They control 90% of the media, the U.S. media. Is that elitists?
- 37:41For six companies to own or to control 90% of the media in the U.S.?
- 37:45Absolutely, it's frickin' elitists.
- 37:49Who owns all the podcasts? Yeah, no one.
- 37:54No one owns the podcasts. Who owns the Junto podcast?
- 37:59Well, I guess Edger Mills.
- 38:01I don't think anybody else does. Now, the distribution platform that I go through,
- 38:07I've never been censored or I've never been given any guidelines or do's and
- 38:15don'ts or anything like that.
- 38:18I'm pretty sure I can say anything I want to say on here from the distribution perspective.
- 38:27I mean, then it goes to Spotify and Apple and all these other platforms.
- 38:31You know, you can hear some bizarre shit out there, you know.
- 38:37So right now they're not being censored. And that's the way it ought to be. And I like it.
- 38:45And that's why corporate media is bad though, right? Corporate media is bad
- 38:49because they are vulnerable.
- 38:51Any business, any big business is subject to some buyout,
- 38:57to some takeover by someone who may or may not have your same desire or principles
- 39:04and desire to share them or whatever.
- 39:08Independence, not so much, right? Like I'm sure if somebody went to Dave Smith
- 39:12and said, here, Dave, I want to give you $20 million to buy your podcast,
- 39:19but I want you to still host it.
- 39:22Do what you do, but...
- 39:25Would Dave Smith take that? I'm not sure, man. I don't know.
- 39:29Somebody offered me $20 million and said, hey, do what you do.
- 39:31But I can be honest with you. I would try to wiggle out of that.
- 39:36I would try to best assess how can I get this $20 million and still say exactly what I want to say.
- 39:43And I guess I would do that until somebody knocked on the door and said,
- 39:47hey, Edgar, look, you can't. You need to scratch that one.
- 39:51I can't have you talking about that. And at that point, I would be in breach
- 39:56of contract and I'd have to give $20 million back.
- 40:00That's just me. I tell people this all the time. I'm not afraid of money,
- 40:03but I mean, I'm not motivated by money at all.
- 40:06I just want to pay the bills, man. As long as I can pay the bills, I'm good.
- 40:10Yeah. So corporate media is subject to that. I think independent,
- 40:14less, less, right? They're less subject to that.
- 40:19Look, we always go back to big corporation-y people doing corporation-y things. Evil, evil, evil.
- 40:26But it's cronyism, right?
- 40:30When corporate media is up here and they're all spitting the same script,
- 40:34that should be a red flag.
- 40:36And that's how the cronyism works.
- 40:39That's how the cronyism works. Well, go get your...
- 40:44Sometimes I watch Fox News in the morning. And when I say Fox News,
- 40:47I mean the local Fox 5 Atlanta, because really I'm just interested to see,
- 40:52one, what the weather is going to be.
- 40:55See who got shot in South Fulton.
- 40:58See which apartments went up in smoke in DeKalb County.
- 41:02And then, yeah, and then a little bit of this, a little bit of that.
- 41:05But then they always got a doc who comes on.
- 41:07And one of those docs is very much, you know, party line guy.
- 41:12Yeah, take the COVID vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he downplays the harm of all that.
- 41:20And it bothers me. But he's getting paid.
- 41:24So corporate media has a way about shaping a narrative.
- 41:28Yeah, shaping a narrative, which may in turn suppress opposing views a little bit.
- 41:38Libertarian, ideal. You might look at that and you might think, man, yeah.
- 41:44So authenticity, yeah. I think authenticity, well, one is critical in my opinion.
- 41:53And that's what you see on the independent, the podcasts and independent music
- 42:03and independent, a lot of things is you see the authenticity.
- 42:07You know that you're listening to a regular guy, a regular girl, someone who.
- 42:15Probably understands your point of view, somebody who may or may not,
- 42:19you know, probably agree with you though on certain things and somebody you
- 42:23might run into out at the Jerusalem Grill or,
- 42:27you know, at the pub.
- 42:29Regular guys. The authenticity is there.
- 42:33When somebody hits me up on a text or email or something, they don't get a standard
- 42:38form letter back. You know what I mean?
- 42:41And when you look at these corporate media types, they're all polished and they're all shaped up.
- 42:48They're all, and the hair's perfect. The suits are perfect.
- 42:51Now, like I said, I watch the local affiliate, Fox 5 News, and one of the guys
- 42:58on there, Buck, man, he does Buck's burgers, you know, I'll go get some burgers
- 43:02at a local place somewhere.
- 43:05And that humanizes him a little bit. But he's got some sweet suits, man.
- 43:10But I'll tell you why I started watching Channel 5 is Ron Gant is on there.
- 43:16And if you guys don't know who Ron Gant is, he played Major League Baseball
- 43:22for the Atlanta Braves back during the world in the 90s when the Braves were smoking hot.
- 43:30Yeah, I've always liked Ron Gant.
- 43:34And then Elise Eadie. She's a doll. She's an absolute beauty.
- 43:39But Buck, yeah, authenticity, man. He's out there, you know,
- 43:42eating Buck's burgers. I love that.
- 43:45It's still polished up, though. You know, there's still the big camera.
- 43:48They probably still got a makeup guy, and they probably blah,
- 43:50blah, blah, all that stuff.
- 43:52You don't really have that with the independents.
- 43:55Authenticity. You know what you see now, though?
- 43:59And Brad said this during the Great Create thing.
- 44:03Some of these people are now, they're trying to do podcasts.
- 44:06Did you see Michelle Obama? She's got a podcast, I guess.
- 44:12Think that that's genuine? Like, she's just like, you know what?
- 44:16I got something to say. I'm going to go ahead and throw it out there.
- 44:19Does anybody think Michelle about it? Now, if you guys noticed that my podcast
- 44:23is audio only, I don't have a video version of this.
- 44:27I'm in my basement, folks. I'm sitting in my basement right now.
- 44:30And this is my de facto office.
- 44:33And I got, you know, some pictures on my wall of like some, a couple of the
- 44:37going away plaques I got, you know, from 1st Battalion and from 2nd Battalion.
- 44:42And, you know, I got a plaque from St. Petersburg Police SWAT team that when
- 44:47I trained with them, I got, you know, I got some stuff down here that, some Army stuff.
- 44:53I got my family crest up on the wall over there.
- 44:57I've got a print, you know, poster, framed up poster of a Picasso up on the wall.
- 45:05I've got a canvas, you know, framed canvas sort of thing.
- 45:10And it's got a phrase on it.
- 45:13And it says, all you can take with you is all that which you've given away.
- 45:18Does anybody know where that quote came from?
- 45:22All you can take with you is that which you've given away. Yeah,
- 45:26that's up on my wall. I got a whiteboard next to my desk.
- 45:29And then I got a little bit of miniature thinker, the statue, Rodan's Thinker.
- 45:36I got that sitting on my desk because I like to think of myself as a thinker.
- 45:40But check this out. If you guys know me, if you know me well,
- 45:44you'll know that the reason I got
- 45:45that little statuette is because it's a prominent feature in the series,
- 45:53the TV series, The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. Yeah.
- 46:00Old Dobie. He loved the ladies. Tuesday Weld was on Dobie Gillis first couple
- 46:06of seasons, and she was an absolute beauty.
- 46:09And Dobie was often sitting next to the statue doing the same pose,
- 46:15thinking hard on how he can get Thalia Miniger to go out with him.
- 46:20Anyway, I digress.
- 46:23Authenticity, man. Does anybody think Michelle Obama is doing an authentic you
- 46:30know from the heart podcast and then and brad mentioned uh joy reed yeah,
- 46:39i think she got fired what what network does she work with was it msnbc or cnn
- 46:45one of those one of the lefty ones i think she got fired maybe so she decided to start doing a podcast,
- 46:54do you think that she's genuinely just sitting in her basement just giving it to you from the heart,
- 47:01i don't think so there's probably a news crew behind the camera yeah man they
- 47:08don't have it right and it's hard to have that authenticity i guess once you
- 47:12reach a certain level of exposure,
- 47:15I guess shit I don't know I don't know.
- 47:21But what's different about the news people even in their podcast right independent people deliver,
- 47:29plain spoken you know raw analysis raw opinion and I think that I think that
- 47:37goes a long way for relatability and building trust we speak to regular people
- 47:44and regular people relate.
- 47:48But I want to say, and I'm not sure where this statistic, I had it and I don't
- 47:55have it anymore, but podcast in the United States,
- 48:0057% men and 52% of women is the listenership of podcast monthly.
- 48:11So it's half and half, you know, roughly of the, you know, a hundred thousand
- 48:16plus monthly listeners, you know, a little more than half's men,
- 48:21a little more than, well, half, half the men, half a winner.
- 48:25They hear people that they can relate to.
- 48:28And so they listen and you can, you can find a podcast on any topic, folks.
- 48:33I know politics seems very prevalent and I don't even want to say my,
- 48:37my podcast is political. It kind of is, I guess.
- 48:40I think I classified it as something under philosophy or something like that. I don't know.
- 48:48I tend to get off on political tangents.
- 48:52But citizen journalists, while being authentic and relatable,
- 48:57they can deliver information.
- 48:59Information and not only deliver information that the mainstream is not delivering,
- 49:06but also expose the bias or the hypocrisy of the mainstream media. Yeah.
- 49:15Independents, independent podcasters, independent citizen journalists actually
- 49:21do empower individuals and in communities with information.
- 49:27And I think absolutely that the corporate mainstream media does not.
- 49:32It's elitist. It's elitist by nature.
- 49:37And by nature, elitists do not empower the individual or the small communities.
- 49:42That's what I think. They don't empower the individual or the community. They don't.
- 49:49People do not trust the mainstream media. That is a fact.
- 49:54I think somewhere in the neighborhood of 28% Americans trust the media.
- 50:00That's a pretty low approval rating, I think.
- 50:05So why would you mistrust the media? Well, let's use the COVID thing for a minute.
- 50:12That was a hard propaganda push, folks. That was a big campaign,
- 50:16all right, that they put out against the American public.
- 50:20But what it exposed a lot is the greasy connections, the incestuous connections
- 50:29between the news media and the government and the entertainment industry.
- 50:35And that right there is enough, folks, when when that stuff is not forthright.
- 50:42And if you don't come on a newscast and you're given some news that has to do with getting a vaccine.
- 50:52But you happen to be married to someone in the CDC and you don't disclaim that. Right.
- 51:00Hey, look, full transparency. My husband works for the CDC, but I'm telling
- 51:06you that the CDC is saying this.
- 51:09Nah, they don't do that. They don't do that. So it seems shady.
- 51:13Whether it's not or is, it seems that way.
- 51:17Now, you guys have heard me carry on before about CIA and Operation Mockingbird
- 51:23and all that stuff, right?
- 51:25So we know that the media and the government are in bed. We've known that.
- 51:31But like quite literally There's a lot of.
- 51:36Intermarital Stuff going on Is that a word?
- 51:39There's a lot A lot of government people Married to a lot of news people Married
- 51:44to A lot of entertainment people Married to a lot of government people Back
- 51:49and forth Back and forth Back and forth I said in one of my last episodes Like
- 51:52they're all sleeping together Right?
- 51:53They all They send their kids to the same Private schools They all go to the
- 51:57same country clubs And they're all sleeping with each other,
- 52:01I alluded to it earlier, in the 24 campaign,
- 52:06the administration basically was coerced and manipulated,
- 52:12well, not manipulated, but definitely coerced and forced Facebook and Google
- 52:16and Amazon basically, well, basically to censor dissenting of use.
- 52:22And that came out, you know, yeah, and that came out only after the fact.
- 52:28And then you got, well, in the current administration, using the FCC to try
- 52:34to pressure certain people and to, well,
- 52:41to de-license certain organizations over coverage critical of the administration.
- 52:48That's not bueno. It's not bueno. It wasn't bueno when Biden did it,
- 52:52and it ain't bueno for Trump to do it.
- 52:55Man, there's a lot of examples here. I just don't want to go and sound like a conspiracy theorist.
- 52:59I'm not. This is all the things that I have here are all legitimate things.
- 53:05Sitcom ran a campaign, a site campaign, on social media using fake accounts
- 53:11to discredit Chinese vaccines.
- 53:15And that came out in a 2021 Pentagon campaign.
- 53:21Criticizing oversight. So the government pressures, and they don't have to pressure
- 53:29too hard folks, mainstream media to stick onto official narratives.
- 53:35They don't have to pressure them too hard. They just got to do a little pill
- 53:38talk at night and be like, well, my boss wants this and that and blah,
- 53:42blah, blah. There you go.
- 53:44Citizen journalists don't, we ain't in that loop. I'm not in that loop for sure.
- 53:49Again, I'm not a journalist. But those out there, I mean, how can a citizen
- 53:55journalist be pressured?
- 53:57I guess, well, people in Europe, you post the wrong thing on your Facebook and
- 54:06you're going to go to jail now in the UK.
- 54:09Yeah. So I guess they can put pressure on you that way as an individual.
- 54:13Just trump up some, I don't even know what, hate speech charges,
- 54:17and then boom, that's it.
- 54:19Something so frigging subjective that nobody can make sense of it.
- 54:24So you could get pressured as an individual, I guess, to go to jail.
- 54:29But if the government says, well, hey, we're going to withhold money from you
- 54:32if you continue with your podcast, well, they would be in a breach of contract,
- 54:37but that's another story.
- 54:39There's just a whole level of mistrust out there.
- 54:44That there's constant examples of. It's always popping up.
- 54:49So in our First Amendment, we have freedom of speech and association,
- 54:52and I want to say freedom of press. I'm pretty sure that's in there.
- 54:57I'm not going to look that up word for word. I can't read the First Amendment
- 55:00right now, but I think there's a freedom of press as well.
- 55:04But all these little incestuous little ties to the government,
- 55:10that violates that freedom of press. There is a conflict of interest there,
- 55:14and that makes the government able to coerce the media.
- 55:20That's it. So otherwise, let's get back to, let's get away from the government stuff.
- 55:25What does, what does the mainstream media, what are they chasing?
- 55:28What is their, what is their purpose?
- 55:29We talked about motives earlier, but, and it was money for the corporate media, right?
- 55:34Ratings, right? They want ratings. Ratings is what gets ad revenue.
- 55:39Ad revenue is what makes all the money.
- 55:41And we see that that's down. So what does that, that lend itself to?
- 55:47That lends itself to sensationalism they
- 55:51try to do any they try to do things for ratings talk about
- 55:55certain stories or highlight certain things to for wow factor or whatever excuse
- 56:03me to try to to try to drive those ratings up so you know i don't even know
- 56:09how the nielsen system works but it.
- 56:14Yeah, high ratings gets high ad revenue.
- 56:18The more people that the company believes is going to watch this show,
- 56:22whatever show it is, that's why I like Super Bowl ads, right?
- 56:27You know what, a 30-second or a one-minute spot for a Super Bowl ad? I don't know.
- 56:31A few million dollars. That's insane, right?
- 56:36So, of course, they're going to try to be as outrageous as possible.
- 56:40Now, pro football has got built-in viewership.
- 56:43How they managed to screw it up with bizarre, you know, halftime shows.
- 56:47I don't know, but ratings right now in the same token podcast and digital media,
- 56:55it's all about the views and the clicks because the same kind of thing applies there.
- 57:00If you got, you know, a hundred thousand plus, I don't know what listeners,
- 57:06well, then companies will want to run ads and then however, you know, you get per click.
- 57:13Like, I don't know how all that shit works, but there's a risk of that affecting
- 57:20the independent media as well.
- 57:24Now, the trick is, though, I don't think the kind of money is there for that. Right.
- 57:29I don't believe that that kind of money exists. When you say that I've monetized
- 57:33my channel, I don't know what the hell that means.
- 57:36But other than probably Joe Rogan and maybe Sean Ryan, you know,
- 57:41I don't think too many people were making what you would consider a living off
- 57:46of a podcast. That could just be me and my ignorance.
- 57:51I'm pretty sure you don't consider OnlyFans citizen journalism,
- 57:56but I hear they're making money pretty good over there.
- 58:02At any rate, the younger generation, I am Gen X, and then what?
- 58:08There's millennials, then there's Gen Z, and I don't even know what the new
- 58:12generation is called or going to be called, but it's, it has trended away from
- 58:20television. Good people.
- 58:21Now I grew up, I was born in 1972.
- 58:24Yeah. My parents had, well, back, back in the seventies.
- 58:28Yeah. You had a dial. You had dials on your TV and rabbit ears and yeah,
- 58:36the remote was me, right?
- 58:38Go change the TV. No, stop right there. And there was like six channels. Yeah.
- 58:432, 5, 11, 17, 2, 5, 11, 17, 36, 46, and 69, and Channel 8.
- 58:52So that's a pretty good bit. That's a lot of channels. Channel 8 was PBS.
- 58:58Channel 17 was TBS, Turner Broadcasting. It used to just be called a super station.
- 59:04I don't even know what it was called before that.
- 59:06And they played, generally speaking, a bunch of old movies. Like now,
- 59:10you got Turner Classic Movies.
- 59:12They played old movies and like Andy Griffith and stuff. And I think back then you go, I don't know.
- 59:18Then you had the big network, 2511.
- 59:23CBS and NBC. Then you had channel 36. I can't remember it.
- 59:28And then channel 46. I can't remember it, but I want to say like channel 46
- 59:31was like where I played like Kung Fu.
- 59:35I don't know if you guys remember that TV show at David Carradine.
- 59:38That was, it was supposed to be Bruce Lee, but it ended up being David Carradine
- 59:42and then like Kung Fu theater and stuff like that, man.
- 59:48Yeah anyway these days there is so much out there to consume it's insane it's ridiculous,
- 59:56and you can you know there are tv shows because we got like a samsung smart
- 1:00:03tv so if you just go in the channel guide on samsung tv there's like this whole
- 1:00:09block of channels it's just like video game stuff.
- 1:00:13People playing video games on TV.
- 1:00:18And then there's whole blocks of channels. It's just like music television.
- 1:00:23There's whole blocks of channels that are like outdoor, you know,
- 1:00:27Red Bull frigging extreme sports stuff.
- 1:00:31There's just whatever. It's all out there these days. It's all,
- 1:00:34it's all out there. It's madness.
- 1:00:36So yeah, of course, kids ain't watching TV or they, even if they are watching TV, they, I don't know.
- 1:00:43They seem to prefer the small screen and they're right in their hands as opposed
- 1:00:47to the big screen on the wall.
- 1:00:48I don't know. I can tell you this. I got a gigantic television in my living
- 1:00:53room. Like it's ridiculous. It's absurd.
- 1:00:55And when my grandkids come over, we'll put whatever show on that is appropriate and.
- 1:01:02Span is so short that they won't even sit and watch the show on the big giant screen.
- 1:01:07They're running around and doing other things. It's crazy. And that's okay.
- 1:01:12I'd rather them do other things than be glued to a screen, but usually they
- 1:01:16want to get on another smaller screen.
- 1:01:19That's crazy. But it's trending down, folks. TV. Yeah, it's not going to go
- 1:01:25away most likely, but it's trending down for sure.
- 1:01:28So this chase for the ratings, this chase for the clicks, You know,
- 1:01:31it distorts the markets a little bit, probably.
- 1:01:33It can create monopolies, especially in the corporate world.
- 1:01:37But the sort of independent stuff, it's still, man, it's still,
- 1:01:41I still got to choose to click on a thing and watch it.
- 1:01:45Now, the question is attention span.
- 1:01:48Does that thing that's being put out there, can it hold your attention?
- 1:01:52Because even adults these days, not even kids, the attention span,
- 1:01:56if you ain't hooked in the first, you know, like 10 seconds, that's it. It's gone.
- 1:02:02So anyway, the chase for the ratings, yeah.
- 1:02:05In the corporate world, I think they're having to try and figure out new things.
- 1:02:10I think that's why you see some of these TV personalities, you know,
- 1:02:13kind of popping up on podcasts or doing interviews on,
- 1:02:18you know, popular podcasts because it's a market that like they're not trying
- 1:02:24to get ahead of it because it's been out there. They're just trying to catch up.
- 1:02:28Yeah, they're just trying to catch up.
- 1:02:32Equals ads, equals money. What's some other unseen sort of money influences?
- 1:02:40Well, for traditional news media, right? Corporate media, it sees salaries, right?
- 1:02:46These people make a lot of money. Let's see here.
- 1:02:50Sean Hannity is on Fox and Rachel Maddow is on MSNBC.
- 1:02:57They both make somewhere around $25 million a year. Can you believe that shit?
- 1:03:03Yeah. And then it says here, your average TV anchor on like,
- 1:03:09you know, local news stuff, they're making over $85,000 a year average.
- 1:03:16So how much am I making from, from my media platform here?
- 1:03:22Zero dollars. Yep. That's right, $0.
- 1:03:27So these people are incentivized. If I'm Rachel Maddow and MSNBC wants me to
- 1:03:33bash on Trump and they're paying me $25 million a year, I'm going to bash on Trump.
- 1:03:40If I'm Sean Hannity and Fox wants me to bash on Biden for $25 million a year,
- 1:03:44I'm going to bash on Biden.
- 1:03:46I think it affects their ability to be independent. I do think that.
- 1:03:52You know, money, I guess you can buy some power with money, I guess a little bit.
- 1:03:58But like one of the ways that people make money, they all on the social media
- 1:04:02is they got these Patreon channels and stuff like that.
- 1:04:05And like they'll have followers who pay, you know, I don't know,
- 1:04:10two, three bucks a month for a membership.
- 1:04:12Well, if you amass enough followers paying two or three bucks a month,
- 1:04:15yeah, that's pretty decent money, I guess.
- 1:04:17Now, what do you give them for that money. I, you know, I don't know.
- 1:04:20I, again, I don't know how any of that stuff works.
- 1:04:23I'm not 100% sure I even really want to, but what else?
- 1:04:28So yeah, you can do ads on social media, right? I could do ads on my podcast.
- 1:04:32I just don't, I don't want to explore that right now, but what,
- 1:04:37I don't know. You guys give me some feedback.
- 1:04:39If, if I did ads on my show, would you rather just hear me read the ad?
- 1:04:44Be like, Hey guys, now I'm going to, I'm going to do a frigging ad here,
- 1:04:47read the damn ad and then carry on?
- 1:04:49Or do you want it to break in with whatever their little commercial is?
- 1:04:52I don't know. I'm probably going to end up doing ads sooner or later, I guess.
- 1:04:57I don't know. It depends on how the money situation plays out with some other stuff.
- 1:05:01But anyway, other than that, then it's like donations, right?
- 1:05:04People are membership based or some people just donate to the cause to keep
- 1:05:10it running. Yeah, I don't know.
- 1:05:15The thing about donations is if they're, I don't want to say anonymous,
- 1:05:18but like no strings attached donations, right?
- 1:05:21Like if somebody out there just said, hey, Edgar, I'm going to,
- 1:05:23here's 10 grand. I like what you're doing.
- 1:05:26You know, keep the faith, bro. Keep, keep rolling.
- 1:05:30I would take that money and I would upgrade my little basement studio and I'd
- 1:05:35keep doing what I'm doing.
- 1:05:37But you don't get that in the corporate world, right? If you,
- 1:05:39if somebody gives you money to do a thing, they expect something in return.
- 1:05:43That's just cold, hard business, and that's the way they do that.
- 1:05:46So, yeah, you can see the differences there with monetary influence.
- 1:05:53Ultimately, those big salaries from the corporate side, yeah,
- 1:05:57I think I just, yeah, it supports statism, man.
- 1:06:02It supports the company line.
- 1:06:05And whereas the independent guys are out there and they're getting money from
- 1:06:10volunteers or from small memberships and stuff like that. So, yeah, man.
- 1:06:15Again, I think the independent, the citizen journalist comes out on top there,
- 1:06:21for being able to maintain a neutral, well, not be pushed around by influence anyway.
- 1:06:29So today, right now, today, there exists somewhere around a half a million podcasts.
- 1:06:37That's a lot of podcasts. I don't know if there's a half a million television shows.
- 1:06:44But I made the comparison. I do this a lot when I'm having a conversation about it.
- 1:06:49Now I made the comparison, the podcast, modern podcast to talk radio of the,
- 1:06:55you know, seventies and eighties, but I'm also going to make it a comparison
- 1:07:00given those numbers, right?
- 1:07:01A half a million active podcasts as of today. If,
- 1:07:07musicians out there, right? There's how many musicians, how many records,
- 1:07:13I'm saying records like everybody goes to the record store, how many downloadable
- 1:07:17songs exist on the internet?
- 1:07:19Yeah, probably, probably way more than a half a million.
- 1:07:23And that's the goodness of the internet, right? You don't have to be famous
- 1:07:26to put your stuff out there.
- 1:07:28Now it might take a while for somebody to find it, but somebody is going to find it.
- 1:07:32And when they do, and they, and it speaks to them, they're going to download
- 1:07:35it and you're going to make six cents or whatever off of it.
- 1:07:39And then somebody is going to hear your stuff. And then they're going to be
- 1:07:41like, Hey man, you hear, have you heard this?
- 1:07:44And then somebody else is going to download it and then you're going to make six more cents.
- 1:07:48And then, you know, maybe you'll be successful. Maybe, you know,
- 1:07:51your little crew of 20 people who love your music, they're just loving your music.
- 1:07:56Just can't wait till the next one, you know, you drop the next, the next song.
- 1:08:01So and it's like podcasts. It's the same. I kind of was worried about that.
- 1:08:05I was like, man, put a podcast out. Who am I talking to?
- 1:08:08Talking to the air, you know, like my own kids don't even listen to my podcast.
- 1:08:14My wife doesn't even listen to it. I got to force my wife just to listen to it.
- 1:08:18But somebody's listened to it because I got the metrics, you know,
- 1:08:21on the on the pod being there.
- 1:08:24So, you know, you put it out there and if somebody hears it and speaks to them, they'll listen.
- 1:08:30And then if they like it, they'll stick with it. And then they'll maybe share
- 1:08:33it with their friends. That's the way it works, I guess.
- 1:08:35And that's fine, man. I like that. That's genuine. That's grassroots stuff.
- 1:08:39That means it's not what's being forced down your throat.
- 1:08:44When you turn the TV on, that news is getting forced down your throat.
- 1:08:48You've got to go click onto the Junto podcast. it ain't gonna just pop up folks yeah.
- 1:08:55You got to go search for the Juneteenth podcast. And then you got to open and
- 1:08:58look, scroll down, see which time.
- 1:09:01Oh, yeah. He's talking about pornography. Oh, I don't listen to that.
- 1:09:05Oh, he's talking about conspiracy theory. Yeah. Let's see what Edgar's got to say about it.
- 1:09:12Versus corporate mainstream media when six corporations own everything and it
- 1:09:17pops up on radio and TV and everywhere.
- 1:09:21And even on your phone, you know,
- 1:09:22you get ads from these big corporate behemoths. You know what I mean?
- 1:09:27So the difference between citizen journalism and mainstream media is you've
- 1:09:32got to go find the citizen journalist and actively seek out their information.
- 1:09:39Whereas the mainstream media, it's all there getting pushed down your throat
- 1:09:43all day, every day. So these independent voices, similar to mine,
- 1:09:48out here on the digital airwaves,
- 1:09:54what?
- 1:09:56Really truly free. I mean, we can even say freedom is subjective, man, these days.
- 1:10:02But if we can openly question the official narrative, openly resist,
- 1:10:11if needed, the official narrative, well, then we're free, right?
- 1:10:17But blind acceptance and compliance to the official narrative,
- 1:10:23that just leads to surfdom folks.
- 1:10:26Now I want to give you a little side note here. When I was writing my notes,
- 1:10:31I did it on Microsoft Word.
- 1:10:34Microsoft Word. I typed in the word surfdom because I was writing this sentence,
- 1:10:40blind acceptance and compliance lead to surfdom.
- 1:10:44Microsoft Word corrected surfdom to freedom, auto-corrected it.
- 1:10:50So I went back and rewrote surf them again. And I checked my spelling.
- 1:10:55Yeah, that's how you spell surf them. And it corrected it again.
- 1:10:59It had the little red squiggly line under, and its suggestion was freedom.
- 1:11:04And the sentence was blind acceptance and compliance lead to blank.
- 1:11:13Microsoft says freedom.
- 1:11:17Let that sink in for a few minutes, folks. Microsoft Thank you.
- 1:11:23Serfdom for freedom. Be engaged, folks.
- 1:11:27Be engaged as citizens of America, as citizens of the world.
- 1:11:31Be engaged and give an ear to
- 1:11:35the citizen journalists, to the independent voices, to the small podcasts.
- 1:11:41Support free speech because this is free speech and that's it.
- 1:11:48This is free speech right here. And be skeptical, folks, of corporate media.
- 1:11:54Absolutely, 100%, be skeptical of corporate media. Take it all in, folks. Take it all in.
- 1:12:02Process it. Analyze it. Think independently. Come up with your own conclusions.
- 1:12:09Yeah, that's it. Just use the citizen journalist as a guide.
- 1:12:14You can even use mainstream media as a guide, but only a guide.
- 1:12:19Understand that they have an agenda.
- 1:12:22All right, good people. That was the topic for today. Citizen journalism.
- 1:12:29Independent voices out here in the digital wild. Support. Yeah, support.
- 1:12:36Please give me your feedback, good people. I'm a flawed individual. I'm a flawed human.
- 1:12:40I don't have spell checkers and fact checkers and those people around me.
- 1:12:46And of course, I'm not doing this live anyway. I could probably go back.
- 1:12:50I think I do a pretty good job doing research when I do it.
- 1:12:54Tell me what you think. Give me your feedback. I'm out here right now actively searching for topics.
- 1:13:01I want to know what my listeners want to hear about, or at least to hear my thoughts on.
- 1:13:08Write a paper on something that you're passionate about.
- 1:13:11Send it to me, and we'll get it posted up on thejuntopodcast.com.
- 1:13:18Come out and shoot guns, ospreyshootingsolutions.com. Come out and do some land
- 1:13:23navigation this Friday, folks.
- 1:13:25This Friday and Saturday is the two-day land navigation course.
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- 1:13:35A buddy of mine, we talked just yesterday. My buddy Justin owns a company called
- 1:13:41Vitax Solutions, and they're a medical training and medical equipment provider.
- 1:13:48And they do aid bags from big to small, and they do a lot of good things.
- 1:13:54So I'm an affiliate with them.
- 1:13:55So if you, and you can find this on my LinkedIn page, the Osprey Shooting Solutions
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- 1:14:07You can find this on my Linktree, Osprey Shooting Solutions Linktree.
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- 1:14:21So with the OSS, from the OSS VITAC page, not only do those proceeds,
- 1:14:28the profit goes, will go straight to the Help a Homie fund.
- 1:14:32And then VITAC is going to match that.
- 1:14:35So that is very gracious of Justin. And I appreciate that he's doing that.
- 1:14:41And that I think is going to help us, you know, get a little more money in the
- 1:14:45bank for, for what we want to use it for, which is to help people who need help, like immediately.
- 1:14:52So that is give send go.com backslash help a homie fund.
- 1:15:00If you want to give to that, you can go there and give to it.
- 1:15:02If you're in the need of some medical stuff, go to Vitax solutions backslash
- 1:15:07Osprey shooting solutions or go find that on my link tree. And you,
- 1:15:13find yourself some equipment. VITAC is also, I think they are also now a distributor
- 1:15:19for North American Rescue, which is a very big, prominent medical equipment provider.
- 1:15:25So yeah, there's that. I want to just appreciate Justin here out loud publicly
- 1:15:30for suggesting that and for matching those funds.
- 1:15:35And then other than that, folks, keep your fingers crossed for the SiloFirearmsTrainingComplex.com.
- 1:15:42Sorry, SiloFTC.com. That's the landing site.
- 1:15:47That's the webpage for the, hopefully, our range that is going to be,
- 1:15:52hopefully, getting approved, zoning approved in January.
- 1:15:57So keep your fingers crossed. If you're praying in person, pray for us.
- 1:16:01And if you're a savage, heathen, woodland tree worshiper, please do a spell.
- 1:16:08Dance around a fire naked with some chickens and try to get that thing approved.
- 1:16:15Let's see. What else? That's it, folks.
- 1:16:19Be good to each other. Yeah, be good to each other.
- 1:16:22Have good manners when you're out there in the public, out there in the wild.
- 1:16:26Open the door for somebody.
- 1:16:28Yeah, pick up a piece of trash. Like my friend, Trail Trash Dirtbag.
- 1:16:33Do something good tomorrow when you get up and go out. Do something good.
- 1:16:37All right, folks. I appreciate you.