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- 0:06Speaker 1: Wakes up, John Jay and Rich.
- 0:10Speaker 2: What's crack a leg?
- 0:11Speaker 1: And this is the Big Boss does snoopy diagle double.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Gigsel bang boom? What you don't do?
- 0:17Speaker 1: We're not talking about Rin ten team. We're not talking
- 0:19Speaker 1: about last if the one and only Dogs, last big
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- 0:25Speaker 1: the place to be and you're listening to John Jay
- 0:28Speaker 1: and Rich, wake yours.
- 0:29Speaker 2: John Jay and Rich phone numbers eight seven, seven, nine
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- 0:37Speaker 2: right now, jump on the air that you can also
- 0:39Speaker 2: text us, text jj R and your message. In nine six,
- 0:42Speaker 2: eight ninety three, there was this survey about The Exorcist
- 0:45Speaker 2: being the scariest movie of all time.
- 0:47Speaker 3: I think, I think so. I don't think anything comes
- 0:48Speaker 3: close because that's that stuff's.
- 0:49Speaker 2: Real, because it's the true story, right, yes, And how
- 0:52Speaker 2: is your cousin involved with this?
- 0:54Speaker 3: Well, we've talked about my cousin, Tim, one of my
- 0:56Speaker 3: all time favorite people on the planet Earth. He is
- 0:58Speaker 3: a Catholic priest and also a tremendous singer. He could
- 1:03Speaker 3: have been on Broadway, but he chose to serve the Lord.
- 1:06Speaker 3: And what Tim was telling me a long time ago.
- 1:08Speaker 3: But that story of the Exorcist is actually based on
- 1:12Speaker 3: a real exorcism that happened in Saint Louis, where I'm from,
- 1:17Speaker 3: at a hospital right down the street from where Tim
- 1:20Speaker 3: was stationed at a church. So I asked him to
- 1:23Speaker 3: come on and kind of tell us a little bit
- 1:24Speaker 3: about the the craziness of that thing that was actually
- 1:28Speaker 3: actually real. I mean, demons are real, y'all. Good morning,
- 1:31Speaker 3: They're not just made up.
- 1:32Speaker 4: Good morning, father, Tim, Good morning. So you're a priest
- 1:36Speaker 4: everybody today?
- 1:37Speaker 2: You're a real priest, are you?
- 1:41Speaker 4: Yeah?
- 1:42Speaker 2: Let's see give me the ted command. That's real. Fast go.
- 1:46Speaker 4: I was told we were going to talk about something else.
- 1:51Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, how many years? How many years have you
- 1:54Speaker 3: been a priest?
- 1:55Speaker 2: Now?
- 1:55Speaker 3: Like?
- 1:56Speaker 2: Is this forty? Am? I right?
- 1:58Speaker 4: Forty two? Forty two?
- 2:00Speaker 2: Yeah, he's one of the nicest guys on the entire planet.
- 2:03Speaker 2: I could tell. So, Tim, did the extors just take
- 2:09Speaker 2: place there? What can you tell us?
- 2:12Speaker 4: The movie? The book, which was written first, was based
- 2:16Speaker 4: on an exorcism back in the forties. It was not.
- 2:19Speaker 4: I wasn't even born then, so, but it happened at
- 2:22Speaker 4: election Brothers Hospital down in South Saint Louis and I
- 2:27Speaker 4: actually did not talk to the priest that did it,
- 2:30Speaker 4: but his brother was a doctor and he would check
- 2:33Speaker 4: on these two priests and others who were praying the
- 2:36Speaker 4: exorcism prayers. So he said there were a lot of
- 2:40Speaker 4: things that were correct, but the rest of the book
- 2:42Speaker 4: was very sensational. There is nothing about vomit, our heads
- 2:46Speaker 4: turning around. They said that in the room where this
- 2:50Speaker 4: young boy was whose name will never be given, it
- 2:54Speaker 4: was very cold, like kind of the movie showed. And
- 2:58Speaker 4: also there or signs I guess they would say of
- 3:04Speaker 4: the devil, of the evil one of talking from this
- 3:07Speaker 4: young man's you know, person from his mouth. So those
- 3:12Speaker 4: are the kind of things. But I did have a
- 3:14Speaker 4: farishioner who would check these guys every day after praying
- 3:18Speaker 4: for hours, you know, to see if they were okay.
- 3:22Speaker 4: The big thing about exorcism is that sometimes there are
- 3:25Speaker 4: people who just have severe mental illness and claim they
- 3:29Speaker 4: are possessed. And that's something that we have to look
- 3:32Speaker 4: at because you know, that takes something else other than
- 3:36Speaker 4: the prayers of exorcist.
- 3:37Speaker 2: That's just meds right. Well, I would think that if
- 3:40Speaker 2: you are possessed, you're not telling people you're possessed. If
- 3:42Speaker 2: you tell people you're possessed, that's where ment the illness
- 3:45Speaker 2: comes in. In my opinion, maybe that's first on the checklist.
- 3:48Speaker 4: Yeah, big part of it. Yeah, absolutely be like, oh.
- 3:50Speaker 2: My god, I'm possessed. A need exorcism.
- 3:51Speaker 3: Now you don't, Well, so how do you how do
- 3:54Speaker 3: you decide when somebody comes in and let's say, probably
- 3:58Speaker 3: a family member says there's something wrong with Jimmy or whatever,
- 4:01Speaker 3: how do you decide if it is mental illness or
- 4:04Speaker 3: something more sinister and dark.
- 4:08Speaker 4: Well, usually we do try to check that out or
- 4:10Speaker 4: ask the family, you know, to go to some kind
- 4:12Speaker 4: of psychologist or something, you know, to see what this is.
- 4:18Speaker 4: What there have been or signs through the years that
- 4:21Speaker 4: the person possessed. And remember this is rare, this is not,
- 4:25Speaker 4: you know, happening all the time. But oftentimes the person
- 4:30Speaker 4: will speak in what they call a dead language, you know,
- 4:34Speaker 4: that does not continue to evolve through the years. So
- 4:40Speaker 4: how do they know that? The family would say, he's
- 4:43Speaker 4: never or she's never spoken that up before, but it's
- 4:45Speaker 4: an actual language you can under you can see as
- 4:49Speaker 4: in a language. And then there's also some other signs
- 4:52Speaker 4: such as the cold, or you know, the person going
- 4:56Speaker 4: into some kind of convulsion, but even that, you know,
- 5:00Speaker 4: so we do ask that there's some real good background
- 5:04Speaker 4: on this person before we would say okay, an exorcism
- 5:08Speaker 4: is required. Most dioceses have an exor sister too. I
- 5:12Speaker 4: am not I've not been asked to be won so good.
- 5:16Speaker 4: I don't know all of that.
- 5:17Speaker 2: We need to keep you far away from that.
- 5:19Speaker 3: So you're saying that, but you're you're saying it's not
- 5:22Speaker 3: very common, but like the devil is real?
- 5:25Speaker 2: Yeah, but so how do you avoid getting to that point?
- 5:29Speaker 2: I mean, are there certain things that people do that
- 5:31Speaker 2: open themselves up to being possessed?
- 5:35Speaker 4: Those are good questions. One of the things that we
- 5:37Speaker 4: have believed that anyone baptized are legitimately in a faith
- 5:44Speaker 4: you know, will not have that possession, and particularly those
- 5:48Speaker 4: baptized in the name of Jesus. But some have and
- 5:52Speaker 4: we're not sure. I've talked to a couple priests and
- 5:55Speaker 4: the dioceses who have them, but they say it's not
- 5:57Speaker 4: quite as violent. And what they continue to look for
- 6:01Speaker 4: is something from family or friends saying no, he would
- 6:07Speaker 4: never say or he's never said anything like that. So
- 6:09Speaker 4: there's some kind of influence within. Those are the things
- 6:13Speaker 4: that we look for.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Father Tim. What about what's your take on the Ouiji board?
- 6:20Speaker 4: Oh my god, I have we used to play that
- 6:22Speaker 4: all the time.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Oh my god, my god, do you guys know?
- 6:28Speaker 3: Do you guys know? As I'm hearing this, So my
- 6:31Speaker 3: main babysitters were my cousin Tim and my cousin Sue
- 6:34Speaker 3: and my cousin Cindy, And I remember them having a
- 6:37Speaker 3: Ouiji board and Tim would scare the crap out of
- 6:40Speaker 3: me and my brother all the time pre priesthood.
- 6:43Speaker 2: But you're not as a priest for forty two years,
- 6:45Speaker 2: you're not. Don't play with that. It can open spirits.
- 6:48Speaker 2: You just think it's funny. Milton Bradley, what have no
- 6:50Speaker 2: big deal? Yeah?
- 6:51Speaker 4: I think it's harmless. I think that we used to,
- 6:54Speaker 4: you know, as we could be his light. Think you know,
- 6:56Speaker 4: we're just touching it. But they were always pushing it
- 7:00Speaker 4: one way or another themselves.
- 7:01Speaker 2: What about connect four? That's the gate way to help?
- 7:06Speaker 2: Hey have you heard? I was just curious your take
- 7:08Speaker 2: on this is something? This is It doesn't really bother me,
- 7:11Speaker 2: but it's a tiny we haven't really talked about this,
- 7:13Speaker 2: but you know, the Passion of the Christ, the movie
- 7:16Speaker 2: that Mel Gibson made, phenomenal movie, right, would you agree
- 7:19Speaker 2: it's a great movie, did you? I liked that. I
- 7:20Speaker 2: thought it was phenomenal. I did think it's a there's
- 7:24Speaker 2: you know he's doing a sequel right now, right, And
- 7:27Speaker 2: I'm sure we all know how the sequel is going
- 7:29Speaker 2: to go. But I was just curious that he's casting
- 7:31Speaker 2: a different actor to play Jesus, which is throwing me off, like,
- 7:35Speaker 2: why wouldn't you hire the same guy? Have you thought
- 7:37Speaker 2: about that yet? Tim? Do you know about the story?
- 7:40Speaker 4: No, don't know anything about a sequel?
- 7:42Speaker 2: Like does Jesus come out looking different? I think day three?
- 7:45Speaker 2: Isn't that part of it that people didn't recognize them?
- 7:47Speaker 2: Is it?
- 7:47Speaker 4: I don't remember a half that's ten right post resurrection?
- 7:51Speaker 4: Even Mary Magdalene didn't recognize him until Jesus said her name.
- 7:55Speaker 2: And that makes sense to that makes sense, And that's
- 7:57Speaker 2: why you would have a different actor then, no idea.
- 8:00Speaker 4: Somebody who looked different, or maybe the guy didn't want
- 8:02Speaker 4: to do it again? Who was to Jesus?
- 8:04Speaker 2: I really haven't seen him.
- 8:05Speaker 3: The much same contract thing with Jim Caviezel. Probably we'll
- 8:09Speaker 3: put in the backup.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Well, Tim, thanks for clearing up the air on the
- 8:12Speaker 2: exorcism stuff. Have you heard of an exorcism taking place
- 8:15Speaker 2: in the last I don't know how long, how many
- 8:17Speaker 2: years outside of the one in Saint Louis in the forties.
- 8:21Speaker 4: No, I have not other than a couple of guys
- 8:24Speaker 4: here who do have been trained in the prayers. But
- 8:28Speaker 4: I don't know how many years ago it was. I
- 8:31Speaker 4: do think it's something that you know, people should be
- 8:33Speaker 4: aware of, but also cautious. Maybe that's my bottom line.
- 8:37Speaker 3: Well, I would say too, if you need an exorcism,
- 8:40Speaker 3: you want to go to the guys in the Catholic
- 8:42Speaker 3: Church that are trained to pray for that. You don't
- 8:44Speaker 3: want to just you know, look look up somebody on
- 8:46Speaker 3: a Google ad you want to get the card carrying prayers.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Father Tim, thank you for jumping on the air with
- 8:53Speaker 2: us and clearing that up, and tell very well, have
- 8:56Speaker 2: a great day, sir, Sure enough you all have one. Yes, Hey,
- 9:00Speaker 2: have you met the new pope by the way, Tim,
- 9:02Speaker 2: not yet? Oh, never before back in the day and
- 9:05Speaker 2: be from Chicago.
- 9:07Speaker 4: And he was in a religious community. He was not
- 9:09Speaker 4: a diocesan guy and down in Peru forever or wherever
- 9:14Speaker 4: he was in South America. So I know a lot
- 9:17Speaker 4: of Chicagoans are very happy about it.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah for sure. Okay, well, thank you, Happy Halloween.
- 9:22Speaker 4: Happy Halloween.
- 9:24Speaker 2: That's Rich's cousin, father Tim,