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Teaching and Mentorship: How Educators Shape the Next Generation - Ep. 197 w/ Calvin Nellum · Black Fridays: Business Growth for Entrepreneurs, Creators & Professionals

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of our kids now, their village is on their phone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can bring negative energy, you can bring mid-energy, or you can bring high level energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they always say, like, kids don't care what you know, they know you care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They need mentors, they need diverse role models, they need diverse perspective, they need someone that's a black man to tell them they love
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that we got that business out of the way, I want to introduce you to one of our favorite Blackmail educators, so all of who is a friend of the podcast and been on the podcast for four and has pulled up for a long overdue conversation, brother man, Calvin down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brother man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brother term, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, it's takes two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: appreciate you and it's good to have you there because I think that especially at a time now thinking about the kind of a lot of conversations that's going around the city with the comes to education and our young folks and what they deserve and resources that they definitely need.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's very important to be able to sit across the U as a blackmail indicator teacher to be able to somebody who's doing a high level to be able to
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[SPEAKER_02]: for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So going get into it, um, what, one of the things that I mentioned to me is that you were building a revolution in town by one child at a time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you own my, could you do a little bit deeper into what you meant by that statement?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, bro, it's like just understanding that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: every longer you have with those kids every second matters, you know, and you're old for them, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can bring negative energy, you can bring mid-energy or you can bring high level energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he always says, like, kids don't care what care what you know today, know you care.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, yo, the terror which you know, they just want to tear.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It is tear that you tear, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the learning comes after, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like so many of my like teachers growing up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the learning comes after the what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a front of the learning?
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[SPEAKER_01]: built in revolution right so I got that you know we got we got we got a building we got a we got a happy ready right we got to have War in Zacen we got a first no each other you know I'm saying like I'm all revolved with you If I don't know you do if I don't trust you if I don't know what your values are right in a ceremony So it's just like so many things get come before the content and like it's just understanding and like yo
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[SPEAKER_01]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's your spirit saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How's your family?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you growing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: All of some of my kids, I was like, I don't care if you go to U of N or if you work on, you know, if you're a buzzer, or as long as you a decent independent person, right, and you are decent, by yourself, working on you, making your own money, and you making the honest living, I'm proud of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying to me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because everywhere those peep people are part of that regular Lucy you're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked four to five thousand kids in Detroit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very part of that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Puffisix, and I'm gonna say that was the music, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, I'll be driving, Southfield, downtown, Midtown, Westside.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes on the east side.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know like I promised you it's helping me so many times because it's just like and he never like Missing all of man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember that lesson you gave to me all that it's like y'all Missing all of them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember how you made me feel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I remember that song I have a kid I'm graduating.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm making this one and I have my kids make more money now You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like understand like that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the revolution right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally
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[SPEAKER_01]: having a leap of faith when you, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: maximizing every second you have with those kids and having no say that no matter no matter what happens after they will hopefully will remain and that's life that's not my entire like you know just just maximize an attention you have with them and just having a faith that it will work all and it's been worth an old man that's worth an old man that's no it's been working out and I love how your pathway to teach a head and necessarily be a convention because it's like some people.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Specifically, go to school for an average of pathway.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a little bit different.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or actually plan on being a researcher.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So was a Katrina survivor, survivor, moved to Virginia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come, came to Detroit for college, for your vases degree, but was planning on doing a research, but didn't end up teachers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what, what change during that pathway?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, like, I'm going back to my kids again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, I asked them I was like, why do you go to school, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I asked three questions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why do you go to school?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Raise them to go to school for your parents.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Poor son of a reason, okay, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Raise your hands to go to school because you want to get good grades.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People will raise that hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, okay, raise that hand.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to, you want to go to school because you want to appear smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Precenting is on raise the hand, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll be like, all of those are excuses.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, I did not actually, I was like, how many are going to school because he just like going to school?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like one or two or three, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I went to college for my mom on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She told me I had to go to college because she died her master's degrees.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to give my master to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta go to school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta do great because you went to college now because I'm paying for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, mom.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But what am I doing for me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was getting the physics degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was getting the math degree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I literally taught myself self-taught with tutors, math and physics, so all of you to top you list four.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You understand what I mean, quantum mechanics?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't like, I understood it, but I didn't have a classroom for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what I had a passion for was kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also had a passion for making science simple.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you teach, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's just making sure like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: going to grass school because I don't know I want to make money and I want to take care of my family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All those are great reasons like going back to the same numbers, those reasons are, but I feel like the ultimate good is for yourself, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the NNA is going to be you, like when it gets hard, it's going to be you in the trenches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to be able to do it that man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was the teacher man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I remember I did the summer camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a all-girl summer camp engineering camp, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the camp was later from 1 to 5.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I promise you, it started all very, very crazy like the tornado and then we had some like boxes made that were like these gains or the kids made the boxes and I went home was like 630 I look at the clock at 7 o'clock I closed my eyes awake up at 730 I'm like I really just fell asleep through a whole time just because teaching is like a mentally draining but I love every single minute of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I got to be a teacher and I'm with these high stitches because I can all want me to sign a simple.
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[SPEAKER_02]: for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you've been able to put your own spin on your approach to teach it because just being able to see first hand the type of the level of engagement that you get with your students and then the record that you're able to build with them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you incorporate music and yeah, a lot of energy to be able to have the kids focus in and locking it with the lessons that you teach and so how did you develop that?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm proud.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, honestly, man, just my life, my leaders and my mentors, Christopher and Ben, Christopher and then he's a PhD educator in New York.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wrote two books, Ratchet and Link, and a wife of the teaching of the University of Utah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he talked about how we need to study rat performances, so we don't have to be better in gauges.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to learn what a site for is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, being able to have a circle where people can come in and be vulnerable, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you allow them to be their full cell, while you give them the affirmations, while you dance with them, while you party with them, you understand what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a Harry ball, rest of the piece, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harry balls, when that taught me that unit song, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Being able to not only take music, science, but also take like lyrics, gestures, like us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our performance artists, right, taking theater, putting all in one amalgamation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are my, like, those are people I look up to, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then comedy men engage in power and courage, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Engaging, engaging, engaging, so I was like, okay, before I saw my clients, I got to wake them up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I was saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, wake up, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got to empower you, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I see you day, I see you coming with the nice shoes today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, still up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: On this point, all right, okay, I see you over there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I see you trace you over there, dancing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I see everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not 9% is 100% I see everybody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because everybody coming with different things, I mean, to make everyone know the matter of our class, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm in gain of you, all right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at power on the robotic courage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm, I'm trying to bring them in, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not on the teacher, you have to bow down to me, it's more like, I'm a yo-mode, I'm a yo-mode, I'm a yo-sini, I'm coming with like, this knowledge, you don't care, I know, you don't care, I care about you, feel me, so this is like how can we build this relationship?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then learn science after, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly grow like, every in our action I have on my first movie Detroit, it was always like love first before me trying to help somebody.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you feeling me?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you can write a tell with you like, just like when I met you all, it was always love, love coming with love coming in with, you know, I'm so fascinating, I'm curious, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious about you, I'm curious about this whole city.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Show me the love and then people start teaching me and they're like, well you think I did with the lesson?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I taught me back to them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's literally it man, so it's just like common as a student at first and then teaching a student, you know?
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[SPEAKER_02]: for sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, bro.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I love that being able to talk about building a relationship before the lesson comes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that gives missed a lot of times.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you noticed it or not, but like in Detroit has a history of like respectability politics and being able to, you know, kind of on a kiss dream or that's how people feel like that's something one before they take you seriously listening you and by doing today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So whatever the case made,
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[SPEAKER_02]: be, but I think that does so it's used to be able to make sure that you establish some type of rapport and meet at a common ground or we start like breakdown different ideologies so I can teach you something new.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Energy, where did energy it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like really, where did energy it is that energy like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: monitors, they fill energy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can tell if you had a bad day, you can tell you have a good day, you can tell if you happen to say, they can tell if you care about them, before you didn't like saying anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can tell, they just have those like marchers on them, so it was just like, you got to come with that energy and it can be full gigs because they can't tell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I feel like that's the skill that I've been able to like not master just like understanding like my energy has to be right every place I go because not only kids can still do it but don't feel it you know what I'm saying so there's just like
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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm in front of Joe the Rose, I'm in front of Wendy Louis, I'm in front of the Montage John, I'm in front of Tommy Lane, I'm in front of Corey Chaves.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All these people, I'm always going to come with them with the same energy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's love.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they always don't shoot me with no matter where their hierarchy is in the society.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The just the energy, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So before everyone who first, I got my re-introduction of my favorite part of like Flared A's, which is freestyle Friday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so you know, Mr. Music, and I hope you, you bunch of bars, which you did that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say it right definitely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a pan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to give us a quick one to yeah I got I'm to give it up for one more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got you I'm a lyricist bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so I'm a lyricist this is a spin this ridiculousness of winning these lyrics out of this mess Now I'm a physicist last lyricist.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll smash ignorance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a mess when I'm spit in this
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[SPEAKER_01]: signal allows the motion be the topic of the course, but things stay on motion unless you hear him about his force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And next up, there's the second law of situation, son Mason, force equal to mass time to sell a ratio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the second law of force.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want more than the third law of things store on M deck, because y'all ain't never heard of my exclusive right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If y'all just never heard of him, I might as a bit, if you can fall Chris heard of him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm as you just a couple of wrap-up questions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you had to put it, if you had to kid write a playlist for your classroom this year, give me a three songs that you will put on that gotta be on there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or is operating on there if you if you do that type of turn.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, any song or Frank Olson endless, everything is everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, he's not lost it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just lost it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, uh, have his by Steve Lacy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Michelle and then what is some that young person has taught you over a year?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's important listening to that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, and this is just new.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like you'll add a tune is more than what it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're attitude is like, you know, energy, you're attitude is more than just like what it looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're attitude is your tone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's how you come off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's how you radiate it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like kids, they feel all that shit dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll never let it just try to make it through the last three months, be being pronounced out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will just show up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: just teach, just show up and teach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I am engaging you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to, but I can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My heart ain't in it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying, but I can't.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, no, we look at one flood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, I'll try.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They feel on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They could tell and it's like, almost no right at it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, I don't want to talk about it at two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you reading me wrong.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll probably do that until you guys do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, so yeah, it's just your attitude is it can be felt yet.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't be so and if you could have one celebrity Somebody that you admire or anyone that you a whole and high-ameration Who would you like to have your classroom as a student to teach them about?
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[SPEAKER_02]: STEM physics math audiobooks
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'll let's say Dante, Algarie, like Dante, for sure, but, uh, man, my mom, uh, anyone, my family members, my cousin Chris, uh, and then I guess to like be white, celebrity, friend Goscia, friend Goscia, friend Goscia, for sure, I will love, so I have, I'm like, like, oh, take his mind on like, just like writing and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For sure, well, thank you for partaking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely, I absolutely want to take it in a freestyle front.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was not ready to do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have some bars out the deals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to think that you have mentioned in terms of, like, you have said, you're jokingly like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The students thought you had to lie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But obviously, you, your energy, that's what you bring to room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's, that's your, your gift, so to speak.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So in terms of being able to maintain that energy like what is that like I'd like you say you've had their moments worse like I ain't got it today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like I have a fourth period of time, but how are you able to freestyle how are you able to maintain freestyle learn how freestyle come back to you to say like honestly not a flow.
17:25
[SPEAKER_01]: know like what's the end and how am I going to begin to get to the end right it's it's making sure you buy everybody's attention or when you freestyle alone when you you're literally trying to get air I remember one time I was given a speech and it was just a visitor's calling my class I wrote this whole speech the day before that's probably issue the wrote the whole speech the day before I've making those wake up in the morning I practice and they're
17:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw them, I looked down at the speech, I saw them, dude, that'd be so, yeah, I was like, yo, I was just about to go mad at it, and it worked out 10 times better, you know what I'm saying?
18:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like freestyle and freestyle and it's pouring, flowing, it's being able to be in a flow state, being in a flow state is thinking, is doing without thinking, right?
18:16
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, you're in a quantum lead, you're in a quantum zone, you are not in space time right now.
18:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just doing, right?
18:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You're doing what you love.
18:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You happy.
18:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gladliness, right?
18:28
[SPEAKER_01]: On, on, on, and then it's just like understanding, like climax, right?
18:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's like plot.
18:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to start and then I got to have a conflict.
18:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I got to pause once I talk about the conflict.
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can soak it in.
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I got to give him to the lesson learn from the conflict and the overall conclusion, right?
18:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just be able to do that with that five minutes.
18:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Two minutes, three minutes, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 20 minutes, 30 minutes, right?
18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: understanding that structure and almost you understand that structure any scenario out I've spoken at the capital or spoken in front of people I've had uh speaking of clippers this is the do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-
19:10
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he gave the work he's able to have.
19:11
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm messing with you.
19:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember when we were came to my class, right?
19:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's literally like general's been to my class.
19:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Following is just like, and now I'm messing up the flow.
19:23
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, if you're following and Michael Jordan closing my class, am I going to talk to Michael Jordan?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I going to keep following?
19:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Tracquist.
19:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to speak to Mike, but go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it, go it
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: right you know what I'm saying and just like being funny him or it's like just like breaking the ice with people man right the ice so the young guy break the ice for you are with right the ice for people yeah so being a wish you get pretty much your fun to learn you're able to we're going to decide you feel like you can show up and be able to perform
20:11
[SPEAKER_02]: and do what you need to do at least for the job and then go back to the argument.
20:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
20:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a bit of a blessing and it's a blessing.
20:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I used to, when I first graduated college, I would go back to my high school and I would just talk to my old avoclows.
20:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Coward, how are you doing?
20:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us about it and I'll just do the same thing.
20:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes I'll make store Luba on this point.
20:30
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll just like, and I'll come back.
20:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh man, I love like a lot of kids are responding, and all the talk, I'm talking about my skeletons and they're taking it and like, appreciate it and not taking it and making me feel bad, you know what I'm saying?
20:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I'll just do that every time so I'm like, I love talking, I love, you know?
20:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, man, so it's just like being able to understand,
20:55
[SPEAKER_01]: performance is a part of teaching, but if you know, as you're going to perform, perform, you know, like don't be like half-ass and don't admit me right to that, you know what I'm saying?
21:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you were finding me, perform, right?
21:07
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not a parent, you're not being exploited.
21:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You're performing to communicate on different mediums because everyone can't learn verbato.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes people need those different modes of communication.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why you also have to perform on
21:23
[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: No doubt.
21:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:26
[SPEAKER_02]: And then your word hadn't gone or recognized it.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
21:29
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
21:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Multi-time.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: Multi-time.
21:34
[SPEAKER_02]: Winter.
21:35
[SPEAKER_02]: Teacher of the Year.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
21:36
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, what has that felt like to be able to have your work and your rapport connection with these students recognized?
21:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll make them a mom proud.
21:45
[SPEAKER_01]: My mission to come and tell you to teach.
21:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It is dinner right pat.
21:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just getting started.
21:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I got the opportunity to work with many other regional teachers at Michigan.
21:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I was the only Black guy, but I'm saying that.
21:59
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can understand the context of one that's 20 is that I learned that teacher's a teacher's.
22:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Teachers got a great, teach us how to print, teach us how to kids that care about school, teach us how to kids that don't care about school, teach us how to kids that they lost, I've lost seven kids, you know, to gun violence, to life, loss, right, teachers, cry, teachers don't get paid, the amount of teachers that are new in, some teachers don't value you, some teachers don't value you, and some teachers don't get happy.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Creacolor, Mars, or Venus, we all deal with the same thing, but differently, but we still have the same issues, right?
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: So that experience, like Tom Nam was like, oh my god, I'm in Lansing, and then a 12-minute T2 year and a UP, and they're talking about how it takes two hours in their kids to get to school.
22:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Those kids, you predominantly wipe, they call those kids, country kids, because that's just what it is up there, where they got high there, so the teachers,
22:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he tried, you, you know what I'm saying?
22:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not the same like that, but never said my answer to like, he tried this and that's not, it's just like, how many of us have similar issues, but we don't know that because we don't talk, we don't.
23:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out with me or we don't talk to each other.
23:10
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't unionize with each other, right?
23:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like how much the world, how, how would the world be a better place?
23:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And we just recognize like we all got Netflix.
23:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We all got Hulu.
23:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We all got a cancel subscription because we got a PS or a bill.
23:23
[SPEAKER_01]: We all got a crazy ass carno and a crazy ass insurance.
23:27
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we feel like we, like we all, like, experience is, it, it brought them our eyes and to help me realize like,
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: My voice matters, my culture matters, my representation matters, but then that doesn't matter over the overall humanity of the whole thing.
23:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And that, that experience, it just, it brought in my horizon like, you know, like, everyone else needs talent, talent, everyone else needs you too.
23:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Not just Detroit.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You phone me like, they need that love, they need that energy.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: They want it.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:59
[SPEAKER_01]: They want it.
24:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of blackmail educators, I was thinking on the way here that from K through 12, I probably could count on one hand, how many blackmail teachers that I had, and I wanted to better understand your experience the far and the blackmail educator being kind of the minority with them minority, almost in this industry.
24:24
[SPEAKER_02]: And then also why it's important that we encourage more like men to become teachers, educators, or some capacity.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, all right, so the same question is that black men need to become teachers because they need to heal.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Blacks, male need to become teachers because the job market is in no longer the blue collar.
24:44
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not just, what can I say?
24:47
[SPEAKER_01]: A blue collar job made me any tree, and maybe other places, right?
24:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You can get you by, but men are not the bread one, as anyone.
24:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't have to carry that.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to work many, many hours.
25:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to work myself to that to provide.
25:05
[SPEAKER_01]: That social construct is proven home.
25:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I say?
25:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Because men are high isometric as always.
25:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We're dying in amongst diabetes, heart disease.
25:15
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to heal, right?
25:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So many jobs that allow us not only tap into our masculine
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the use ourselves, we also need jobs so we can exercise our psychological skills.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Our critical thinking skills more on the social level, dealing with people, right?
25:36
[SPEAKER_01]: By social emotional skills, interpersonal skills, interpersonal skills.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: We need jobs that allow us to work in those skills so we can save ourselves as a
25:46
[SPEAKER_01]: gender, right?
25:47
[SPEAKER_01]: So not only teaching, but being a nurse, being a male psychologist, being a male nurse, uh, uh, uh, social workers, right?
25:56
[SPEAKER_01]: All the jobs that we use to say were just for women, where men need to be in those jobs.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Because.
26:03
[SPEAKER_01]: We just said it is mainly predominantly what women.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to be a botanauty already.
26:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So boom, what else?
26:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You carry a different paradigm of a different pedigree, right?
26:15
[SPEAKER_01]: You come with a just something different, right?
26:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying what they have is not working.
26:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just saying we need diversity to help diverse the world we live in, right?
26:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the first question about, uh, for black males, right, uh, become teachers, right?
26:29
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you should become teachers because you want to be in front of, uh, a hundred and 30 kids every single day.
26:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And understand that you're in front of a hundred 50 kids every single day.
26:40
[SPEAKER_01]: They're in front of a hundred 50 kids every single day.
26:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to make the best of that day.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm in front of a hundred 50 kids every single day.
26:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all I'm up to by Tyre's five, that's gonna turn it to 2000 kids every two or three years.
26:52
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you need to become a teacher, right?
26:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Because you have an opportunity to change the world.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: The classrooms are market-causing on the earth, right?
26:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Black male teachers who become teachers because your presence is enough.
27:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not a no.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a no.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But it is, though.
27:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll be a black, not as scary going to school, everyone will stare at you.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: If I wave it to, they're going to be curious about you.
27:16
[SPEAKER_01]: If you dress well, they're going to want to know what you got to choose, right?
27:22
[SPEAKER_01]: When you talk, everybody's going to listen.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just not there.
27:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But then, well, famous favorite, my favorite teaser said it just because your Black Melty doesn't mean your effective Black Melty just like gives them more things like them between Black Artism and White Artists.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You could still be a wack teacher, you know, so that's not it though.
27:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not enough just to be a present you got to be able to.
27:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Make a lesson, right?
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying the getting in middle of the end, you got to get your will to know yourself as a person.
27:51
[SPEAKER_01]: It could be a good person because just being hypermasculine will only allow us to teach people not saying how to mask when it is like all men.
27:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we have to be able to tap and tap them in and sigh, right?
28:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can talk to everybody here, everybody.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to get your will to be socially well, right?
28:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So make sure we're like, we are taking care of ourselves.
28:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, to take care of those.
28:11
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to be happy.
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
28:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you can't be a happy teacher.
28:15
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not happy, you can't be a good teacher.
28:17
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're not happy, you can't be a still confident in the people.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: You have confidence that you're so teaching literally it makes you a better person because you have to be a people person to be a teacher.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So you gotta have self-esteem.
28:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, we need all of that.
28:33
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to be in Hill job.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we got to be in this teaching field.
28:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Black men, understanding that the best thing you can do outside of making money and working for your family and protests that is getting in a classroom, or mentor, or coach, or boys and girls club.
28:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I recommend everybody do that.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Once a week, twice a week, do a full job because
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk about the village.
29:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm stopping this one.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of our kids now Your village is our dear phone.
29:04
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have villages, but how many OGs you're going up?
29:07
[SPEAKER_01]: You was a kid How many very few a few like maybe you like five or six to seven?
29:12
[SPEAKER_01]: You pocket name all of them our kids.
29:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes down to maybe two So they need mentorship.
29:20
[SPEAKER_01]: They need diverse role models.
29:22
[SPEAKER_01]: They need diverse perspective They need someone that's a black man to tell they love them
29:28
[SPEAKER_01]: and you see a black man crying and you see a man crying and you see a man that's only love on all that stuff matters right because of the you know disparities is out there right but that's not sure your job into all that your job is a serial purpose of your purpose on that welcome we need to come to you
29:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh sure.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that my sense?
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: It does.
29:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what if there was kind of like, tell me anything.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: You still see everyone.
29:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all of it.
29:53
[SPEAKER_02]: One thing that you said, that's the guy to me.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: That I thought was really important was you started to talk about what some of the value adds for the person.
30:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It is to actually become a future, because that's the position of servants, so you are doing you are taking a knowledge and information that you have past them all to the next generation or in the next person.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
30:12
[SPEAKER_02]: But people don't talk about what benefits you guys should get from being a teacher.
30:16
[SPEAKER_02]: As always, yes, yes, yes, yes, but you can, you were starting to talk about some things you guys should get from the future, which I thought was good.
30:23
[SPEAKER_01]: the steal is the transferable right you know you you're always not I was like I'll tell my my my nasty shows that I want to give a public I want to give a uh uh uh uh uh uh a public speech every day I want to give a more traditional speech every day she was like you're gonna write that out you're gonna do that
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you gotta be motivated and you gotta be able to say I'm sorry Because you're not always knowing me right even though you're the sails on a state sometimes you got step-wall to state You got to give other people to Mike my best.
30:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I prayed my best moments in teaching is when I've taught a class sort of group with other kids and Mid class is taught teaching other kids how teach the class towards an end of the year the kids are teaching the class What I'm just in the back row?
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: facilitate it.
31:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You film me, so I have to drew, you know, in a tone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
31:13
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jamal, like, that is the purpose.
31:16
[SPEAKER_01]: The purpose is to reach, teach, and teach somebody else how to reach, teach.
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
31:23
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not this, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're giving the knowledge.
31:26
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing I think we, we get, we get caught up as a teacher.
31:30
[SPEAKER_01]: right I got knowledge I got to degrees okay share it and so is that he shared it and it was a proof of constant that you shared it because it's someone that's not used teaching a way to do teaching that is a good what's the teacher it's a good thing so great thing and it's not about you it's about
31:51
[SPEAKER_01]: the ether is about the community.
31:53
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just a general thing.
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: It's raw like, it's not about me.
31:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to learn America.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: That camera was on me.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm over it.
31:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And literally like they got the iPad.
31:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so like the videos, the kids, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb, it's numb,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
32:15
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the camera.
32:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna get away here.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: And before, you know, and it's on the top back.
32:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Dot three kids behind me, four kids behind me.
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
32:23
[SPEAKER_01]: They give me no check.
32:24
[SPEAKER_01]: My kid, this, this is not about me.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: This is about me.
32:26
[SPEAKER_01]: You all like, this, I'm a vessel.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I came here to sacrifice my time, learn about Detroit, the months like I can.
32:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can, creating, I'm forgetting to go experiences that can inspire you to hopefully give more of those experiences.
32:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I had to be on the moon America for you to do that and it gave me $10,000 and a free trip to uh, whatever whatever Bommies, I want to trip those amazing, but what do you think I do with that money?
32:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, take it.
32:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I name it away!
32:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I name it to teachers.
32:55
[SPEAKER_02]: If so.
32:56
[SPEAKER_01]: What I look like with $10,000 worth of teased supplies, all myself all look like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy right exactly I gave it away a fight spent 10% of our soul be filming and so that's that's the whole point That's the whole entire point come coming here.
33:11
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing is better while left it and I still have no return That's the whole entire point That's the whole entire point.
33:17
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the major and then as you so when you when you take your cape off after teaching Outwards you are a creator in your own.
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes You mentioned talk about you back as to have them
33:28
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a world with that, and now also another question of your creativity is music.
33:32
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
33:33
[SPEAKER_02]: You talked to us about your musical journey.
33:36
[SPEAKER_02]: One was that a thing for you.
33:37
[SPEAKER_02]: It had to just be near blood coming from Nola.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
33:40
[SPEAKER_02]: That's something that you've got to grow over time.
33:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're getting it.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I started as a manager, kind of like an independent ANR.
33:47
[SPEAKER_01]: I will I'll push my my college roommates.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a record label called Tittle Tip Production Center file 7 and so now I have my master's degree here started my master's group program at Detroit.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: So I drive for me Troy all the way to Danielle almost every two weeks.
34:01
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had an album, you know, my say go.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: So Masagos from, he's from North folk, we put on one of his shows at the Grammy theater.
34:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So he was the headliner, we were the opening artist, but we pretty much managed to entire thing.
34:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We hired the artist, it was like me and father brothers, we did the marketing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Literally like 10 or 10 products and we do everything.
34:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do the editing, we do the marketing, we do the music, we do the mastering, we do everything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything and I was the manager.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Long story, less long, you lost like $30,000.
34:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do y'all got bankrupt, you know, we all don't have to separate these.
34:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, that's the lesson we want to write.
34:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We're using industry, it is expressing me hard.
34:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's my name, Virginia.
34:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at less than taught me, well, okay, I know how to be in a studio.
34:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what it makes a master is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let me put kids in a studio.
34:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So I started putting kids in a training studio, just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like this work, okay, can you write?
34:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I come still, I'll pay if you go to Percom Studio.
34:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to do this for me though.
34:55
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got to make security work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you stay at school.
34:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure you stay out of trouble.
34:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking kids who got probation appointment studio.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got kids who just got talent, appointment, and pay for everything.
35:08
[SPEAKER_01]: My funny love doing all that and eventually as you got, you know, bird out because I'm funny and I was like, oh, I really know how to like kind of do this music thing.
35:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have songs on radio.
35:22
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is not a little money.
35:23
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not this is all artists artists, right?
35:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I wonder it's like, I tried myself.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
35:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Like let me take a leap of faith.
35:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me do what I want, you know I'm saying let me be a creator, right?
35:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I can make the video I can make a music video I can edit a podcast Okay, let me just try to be a artist, right?
35:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was gonna saw how my metrics for my music clips were way Three times bigger than my podcast, so it's like, oh, okay.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: He's dead
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right, so I'm trying to experiment out, let me put out the next state.
35:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me go and put like really quick out like a full-take once, walk it.
35:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me put out the next state, let me go the actual studio, get it.
36:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, master actually writes stuff to it, like you know what I'm saying?
36:05
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, like, I'm not, I want to say I'm, uh, I'm not even a novice, I'm, I'm still learning.
36:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I always have experts around me, I always have people that know they're doing and so I'm always listening and learning what kind of it.
36:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm always like, okay, well, I got the passion soil, I got the half heart, I'll write this and put a little kind of them to see, and it was a good resistance for like my kids, like my kids will find my music, and I'll own even like both of them.
36:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not my, I'm not so scared about that.
36:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just finding though, when they're like, that's not how I know about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We like it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was okay.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.
36:34
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
36:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's just it just became like a hobby, um, but it's also became the way to breathe.
36:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, saying teaches my college, but music is how I breathe.
36:44
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, you know, body humanity going through relationships, domestic violence, going through drug abuse, going through
36:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, temptation and lust going through, you know, just the devil in the angel, the battle between a good and bad, going up through love, going through greedy gluttony, all the pride, and just being able to write it down and make a song out of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can read now.
37:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not holding that with Zettman no more.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not mad at you because I just wrote it out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I can give it to someone else who's needy going to a similar issue, then get better, right?
37:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, again, serving, right?
37:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Giving to a lot of friends, then giving it to the kids.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: We put out a little mixed state, flashy boys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, giving to myself, learning more about how I can give to myself and music, so I keep breathing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Doing it well, I'll then say love, right?
37:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and pass shit.
37:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And I honestly, if I get on the stage, I'm ripping the mic, like, I'm gonna be the best of homework,
37:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Before I became a rapper, like I was already doing that, you know what I'm saying?
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: So, of course I'm gonna rip the mic, but then it's like, why am I doing it?
37:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I doing it for cloud?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Am I doing it for views, clicks?
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm doing it, so I can get a message out.
38:02
[SPEAKER_01]: So, people can understand the lesson that I taught in the class.
38:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't get it, so maybe they'll get a direct song.
38:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, I can't ask, listen, no, what do you mean by that?
38:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you really like read through the lyrics just to ask me that question.
38:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, that's the power music, you're like, even like, it's hard to speak.
38:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Like music is timeless, like, I feel like the best music is to make what?
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening with music, timeless music, what does that mean?
38:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Fair.
38:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's tell you what, even when you what, don't go on, right?
38:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Music that can make you dance.
38:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I was from the world on the right, so it's all about boss music, so to love.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Take it back now.
38:38
[SPEAKER_01]: He's from the world looks.
38:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do it.
38:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those made in the world.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What?
38:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
38:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I might be wrong.
38:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe is the world is you know a light.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: New Orleans news, our promise to you, the best music in the world is honestly jazz, right?
38:54
[SPEAKER_01]: But then if you just, you know, fast forward, it's Boston music.
38:59
[SPEAKER_01]: The Boston music is not a bad dancing music.
39:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an interpolation of an old song.
39:03
[SPEAKER_01]: It's someone just added these bounce instruments and I'll get to you after the next 20 seconds.
39:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You guess it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a bounce song on my album.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a four degree song on my album.
39:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Christian and she can you know say all like just like I got experts and it's being mixed in matter you know I'm saying so it's just like literally like taking a leap of faith not having no fear Doings for the love of myself right and just putting out good with user, you know and just open it You know it's just hoping but just like people listen to it.
39:35
[SPEAKER_01]: That's really it man people want to listen to it Because I know like if I'm getting front of a crowd of people like I'm born a like cap that because I know I didn't get people
39:43
[SPEAKER_01]: You feel me, but it's like, what song I want to, what message I want to get to know?
39:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it about one of the two?
39:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it talking about the fundamentals and how we, we mistransused actual fundamentals or will we create and we think are fundamentals, right?
39:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one's two's about.
39:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it about change?
39:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Tony Man can't can't change his ways.
40:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, so that's about my brother, right?
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: Or about people who can't let go of their pride, can't look good, or they're even like just their vices, right?
40:08
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what that's one is about.
40:09
[SPEAKER_01]: West Bank to 7 mile, you know, a little 7 mile, you know, from the West Bank, you know, saying putting two cities that I love mostly, I would never compete with all the ones thrown, right?
40:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's all about love, but it's like, I got to be vulnerable too.
40:25
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm talking about, you know, the domestic violence, I'm talking about, you know, how that makes you feel, talking about, you know, saying, instead of getting a 10, I read the six,
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[SPEAKER_01]: more than it's here.
40:42
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
40:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking to Cole.
40:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
40:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
40:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But like just like being honest all do it.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just in the right now, but just like being honest man Like in music is like love like I'm in on this is like they say like the best rap songs are not recorded And I'm gonna end on that the best rap songs are not recorded, but I did record it because I'm wanting to hear me hear my soul And hopefully you get the pictures so we can all pay money to go for show Anyway, what's the project that you got coming out?
41:19
[SPEAKER_01]: We're in man
41:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take two talking, coming through.
41:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes a mess about while his man worked on his all summer man.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Every beat that you know, your favorite beat is on there from Steve Lacy all the way to a shoot.
41:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a genic Jackson beat on there, man.
41:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I got so many, like John's supposed to DJ for me about DJ because DJ's era of honor, but even really busy, but hopefully it's in this video.
41:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you'll hope you do that to me, but yeah, man, coming up on a month or so, I got some shows lined up.
41:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, put a question about E.P.K.
41:54
[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to ISIS, trying to open up for you one day, hopefully a couple of weeks from now.
42:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and just honestly, bro, just really pushing like this, like, love, message.
42:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, make it sure that people understand why we gotta keep back to the answer.
42:10
[SPEAKER_01]: You've been to, uh, uh, you've been to like a party in the DJ was like, whack.
42:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, well, what did it, what did it feel like?
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[SPEAKER_01]: From that party feel like like that hero stuck out in the world.
42:23
[SPEAKER_02]: What else?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me more, um, no vibe, no aura, no, none of that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever kids can send on days.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
42:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, that's so like hard to materialize some time.
42:34
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like, how do I give out?
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: How do I ring or no.
42:37
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all, where is the vibe?
42:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is the aura?
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And how can I put it?
42:42
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean and that's that's me though.
42:44
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I promise you what that's me though That is me because I want everyone to catch her by I want everybody to see on my org because I don't give it then I'm belong here.
42:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't care.
42:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You can not cut my hair Uh, and People going dance man.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get people dancing man Detroit.
43:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I got so many hustled man.
43:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to just bring it down
43:03
[SPEAKER_01]: There's like a freestyle a little bit, man, but I love Detroit, but it sounds neat to it.
43:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Fish up, fish up, and all that amazing hustle classes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely, so many other.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you need to just know the main one, and I'm doing it, and you can.
43:14
[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to fall, you know, you're good.
43:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I got it to come here last time.
43:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to miss hustle song.
43:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I made a floaty to before floaty to the, that was a big representative Troy.
43:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm an outlawed Detroit man.
43:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And Detroit is like music from the fool to the music man.
43:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if I can make any here, I can make any where I keep saying that.
43:34
[SPEAKER_01]: If I can make any here, I can make any where.
43:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not why that's why I don't Detroit.
43:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, y'all just, y'all just time notch, man.
43:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, we appreciate that.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to say to your commitment and brother for the city.
43:44
[SPEAKER_02]: So because you're telling the people where they can tap in with you at, yes, we're going to say to your social media links.
43:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely.
43:50
[SPEAKER_01]: So brother man, Calvin, brother man, Calvin with a K, DAS or underscore B and K. Tell me out on Instagram on YouTube.
44:00
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be pretty much like revamp on my YouTube.
44:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really trying to sell nothing right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really pushing out content right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can stick with me.
44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also a teacher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got some more Dante classes coming up But then the mixed take flow take to walk in I promise you like we we we we we we we walking more than we talking We walking more than we talking so all right, I need you to take a list to it give me some of feedback like it love it I need you dance to it because it's gonna be good flow
44:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
44:29
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it for show.
44:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Brother man.
44:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate you for pulling up on me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a great man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Great to be able to see the work that you have been doing and well continue to do and we definitely need all the energy enthusiasm that you have for our young folks.
44:42
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it for teacher for knowledge because it is important and it's infectious as well.
44:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
44:49
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes one way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So.
44:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a shit, you bet.
44:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, and it's not out to my family.
44:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The Jingu family, the New Orleans family, the Dost family, the Darlie family, the Margot family, the level of y'all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For show.
45:02
[SPEAKER_02]: And everybody watch you listen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to talk to him with you all soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace!