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Eternal Love of Dream | Full C-drama Review / Ep. 73 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Jessica and this is the Teba K Rambles podcast where a couple
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  of friends review Korean dramas. Except today we are back with a
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  SEA drama, a Chinese drama, and it's a drama trio episode.
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  I got Caitlin with me and I got Liliana with me.
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  How are you guys? I'm good.
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  Thank you. How are you guys?
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  We've been talking for like 30 minutes.
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  We're feeling good. We're feeling positive.
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  I was telling you guys, I need a cool, like, I don't know, eight
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  to 10 hours of sleep every night.
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  And I didn't get that last night because I stayed up till 3:30 in
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  the morning to finish this show that we're going to talk about
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  today. And I know that we have
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  thoughts. We have major thoughts.
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  We do OK. Oh, you got to talk about this
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  show. OK so I don't know do you guys
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  want to talk like what y'all been watching for like a a hot
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  2nd or? Sure.
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  All right, all right. So I know that I'm traveling a
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  lot this month so I took it upon myself to empty my current watch
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  list. So I have not started anything
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  new and I'm basically trying to finish up the anime Yu Yu Haka
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  show so I could do a versus episode next month on J drama
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  that Netflix released last year. And then I also have a Weekender
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  Korean drama that I've been watching forever and I just need
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  to finish it because I want to replace it with another
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  Weekender that starts mid-september.
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  So I need to finish it by mid-september.
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  And those are the only two things I'm actively watching.
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  I I just every time this gets lost of Caitlin.
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  Caitlin's always. I need to finish this weekend.
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  I know. So for me, I'm watching the
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  Chinese drama Are You The One, which is one that stars one of
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  the male leads from Lost You Forever that everybody's been
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  going crazy about. So I'm watching that one.
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  It's OK so far. It's not like mind blowing, but
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  it's been better than most recent Chinese dramas, let's put
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  it that way. But but yeah, it's not bad so
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  far. It's just not, you know, I'm not
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  like, Oh my God, I need to watch every single episode 'cause I'm
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  not even caught up with it. But it's not not too bad.
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  And then for other things I'm watching, I'm watching guys, I'm
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  finally making, I'm like, I'm fine, finally watching moving
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  again. And I'm five episodes out and
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  now I'm like, I've just made it through like the adult stories
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  and I'm like, Oh my God, now. Now I'm like so much more into
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  this drama than I was. So I will probably finish moving
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  this weekend I think. Oh great, that's a good.
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  Sorry, sorry. That's a freaking good.
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  Oh yeah, yeah. And there's a review up on Tevac
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  if you want to listen to it after.
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  I will. I'll definitely will.
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  Rico, I think me and Rico are on that one, talking about moving
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  from 2023. Such a great show.
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  And then I'm watching the TV show like the, it's not a
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  variety. It's just like ATV show.
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  It's the one it's called Are you sure?
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  And it's basically like JK and Jimin from BTS going around and
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  travelling and they get like joined by Tae Young in a couple
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  of episodes. So I'm just like watching that.
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  I love those types of shows. I really do.
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  So And yeah. And then the last one, it's OK,
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  That's love. That's, you know, for reasons.
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  For reasons and stick around on the tab box feed and you'll know
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  why. All right, thank you guys for
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  sharing what you're currently watching, but I thought it'd be
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  nice to just catch up really quick on this here Eternal Love
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  2 review that we're about to embark on.
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  God, we got a doozy for you today.
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  OK so we're going to review the Chinese drama Eternal Love to
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  AKA Eternal Love of Dream AKA 3 Lives, Three Worlds, The Pillow
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  Book. There will be no non spoiler
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  section as always, it's a Chinese drama review.
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  We are just going to go through the cast list, the synopsis,
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  when it aired, director, writer and after.
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  That interesting fact about them, by the way, between 10 of
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  Peach blossoms in this, so I'll say that.
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  Oh, perfect. OK, and so after we get through
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  all of this, we are going to get into of course, like our
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  thoughts and general thoughts, but really everything's on the
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  table. We are going to spoil the show.
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  So if you have not watched Eternal Love to AKA Eternal Love
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  of Dream, AKA 3 Lives, Three Worlds, the Pillow Book, then
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  please watch the show and come back or don't watch the show and
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  keep listening. It's totally up to you, So here
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  we go. The My Drama List synopsis for
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  this show reads. Queen of Qingchu by Fengju is
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  the only Red 9 tailed fox in the world.
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  One day, Fengju is attacked by a savage beast while seeking
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  cultivation in the mountains and is saved by the 1st Emperor of
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  Heaven, Donghua. Grateful and feeling indebted,
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  Fengju accompanies Donghua to Vanquish the Demon Lord.
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  OK. As the two spend time together,
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  Feng Jio realizes her gratitude towards donghua has slowly
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  evolved into love. Unfortunately, donghua has long
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  forgotten what love is. Although the coldest parts can
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  melt with time, will countless lifetimes be sufficient to bring
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  these two hearts together? This story is adapted from the
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  novel of the same name by Tang Chi Gongsi.
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  I think it's how you say the name.
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  Hopefully it didn't butcher too badly.
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  The show aired from January to March of 2020.
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  It is 56 episodes long. You heard that right. 5-6 very
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  near to the first eternal love 10 miles of Peach Blossoms show,
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  which was also the episode counts in the 50s.
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  So the director of this show was Chu Yi Boon and this man has
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  directed everything like ashes of love, hot blooded youth skate
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  into love, the long ballad, the blue whisperer, the starry love,
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  the story of kooning palace, moonlight mystique, blossoms and
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  adversity. A really stacked resume.
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  I see your face, Liliana. You're just.
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  Like, yeah, because, because I there's so many good shows on
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  this. Like there's so many good shows
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  on there, and especially one of them being Moonlight Mystique,
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  which is like one of the most anticipated shows for me.
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  So I'm just, yeah, this director does really good stuff.
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  Yes, I think Caitlin has a recent review up for blossoms
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  and adversity on her no sleeve for dramas podcast.
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  If you wanna, if you've watched that or if you wanna listen to
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  her thoughts on that, please do. The story of Kuning Palace has a
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  has an episode up on the Tien Soju feed the starry love me and
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  me and you Liliano, like that's a two parter.
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  I think that's on your feet if you want to listen to us talk
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  about that one and Ashes of Love, pay attention to the drama
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  trio because that will definitely be coming down the
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  pipeline. But the long ballad, I have to
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  pause here because. I was about to say, are we going
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  to talk about? That no, we had to talk about
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  this. We had to talk about it.
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  So what happened was the whole reason why we're covering
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  Eternal Love too is because I had originally planned for us to
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  watch The Long Ballad, another dull Robba show.
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  I wanted us to watch a Shasha for season five of Tabak and I
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  thought, oh great, I had heard great things about The Long
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  Ballad and it was a pretty recent show, you know, within
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  the last five years or so. So I picked it and both of you
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  started the show before I did. We did.
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  And I think you guys got like 10 or so episodes in and y'all were
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  like this show sucks, this ain't it.
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  We need to rethink this. Yep.
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  And let's be. Honest though, we started it
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  because of Wooley, not because. Of Dora.
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  Oh, yeah, No, Wooley's in it too.
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  I have. I have to add that.
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  Oh, you're totally right. Wooley's in it as well.
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  Huge reason why I picked it as well.
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  And you know what? Oh, my God.
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  Thank. Thank you so much for bringing
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  up Wooley. That was a huge reason why I
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  picked it. Not just a Raba but Wooly
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  because I put out a poll on Instagram.
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  Like what do you guys want to see more of on Tabak for season
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  5 yadda yadda yadda. And someone said more Wooly
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  shows because I had covered Love Love like the Galaxy.
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  Yeah, right, right. And I was like, OK, bet.
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  So I looked at wooly shows. Long Ballad came up and you
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  know, I had been wanting to watch it.
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  The same old story, it didn't work basically.
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  Like we basically cut it. It had a short audition of like
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  10 or so episodes and y'all were like no, no, no.
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  So we, I went back to the drawing board because I still
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  wanted us to do a drama trio episode on Ashantia.
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  But Shantas are notoriously really fucking long, OK?
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  Like a lot of episodes. And it's only recently that
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  they've dropped the episode count to 40 due to government
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  mandate, due to censorship mandates.
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  And I was struggling then because we had already reviewed
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  Eternal Love, 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms.
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  That was the very first drama trio episode on the Tea and Soja
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  feed. We thought, let's come back and
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  do Eternal love too. This was like a perfect like,
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  oh, let's keep going with it because we already said like we
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  got to watch the sequel. We got to watch Eternal Love of
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  Dream and so here we are folks. And I had no idea that the
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  director also did the long ballad.
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  So when I saw that on his resume, I was like, oh shit.
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  He's done quite some work here and it's all connected and
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  intertwined. But yeah, he did have a Co
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  director on this. Young Schwann.
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  This director hasn't directed as much, but I don't know if you
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  recognize these shows. Sword and Fairy 4:00.
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  As Long As You Love me from 2020.
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  Yeah. OK.
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  You're like, nodding like, OK, yeah.
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  Yeah, Sword and fairy, wasn't it?
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  Yeah. That's why.
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  OK, so the writers. It's got 3 screenwriters.
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  Who Ya Ting Huang Shan Shan and Liang Zhen Hua.
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  So 2 ladies and one guy and I think the guy really has the
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  most resume out of out of all of them.
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  He's the the one that's been working more than the other two.
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  I don't know if you recognize any of these shows.
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  We don't, we don't have to go into any of these if you guys
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  like, don't even. I really want to watch the
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  ingenious one and I'm also curious about store my but.
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  All right, Yeah, yeah. And there's more relaxing.
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  I think you did too. I think I've watched the
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  Ingenious 1. Yeah, it stars the girl who
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  played the the the BITCH from 10 miles apiece, then.
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  Why do you spell it out? Because you don't swear on your
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  podcast. I totally swear.
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  Well, well. Either way, I've.
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  Sworn already as well. OK, anyway, let's just spell out
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  all the swear words in this episode.
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  So this show, eternal love, two stars, the Robert Du Murat.
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  She plays Bai Feng Ju slash Aranya slash Consort Chen.
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  She's our female lead. She's been in about 24 shows.
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  She's had a long career. She debuted around 20/13/2014,
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  so she's been in the biz around a decade and she's done shows
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  like Diamond Lover, obviously Eternal Love from 2017.
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  That's where we first saw her play by Feng Chu.
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  This character, The King's Woman, The Flames Daughter, The
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  Long Ballad from 2021, You Are My Glory, The Blue Whisperer,
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  Prosecution Elite and The Legend of Anle from 2023.
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  You guys like Doraba, I think. I think we all like.
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  Her, Yeah, yeah, she ended up on our list, didn't she?
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  Of the Hall of Fame, so. Yep, she's great, she's
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  beautiful, very talented. Her Co star is GAO Wei Kwong I
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  think how you say his name, he plays Donghuat de Jin.
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  Or Van Gogh GAO. Yeah, Van Gogh Bingo GAO.
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  So Emperor Donghua Dejun slash Chen.
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  Yay slash Shuan Wren. I think there's one more name in
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  there that they're missing. I don't even know.
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  OK, so he's the male lead in this show.
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  He's been in about 28 TV shows and actually he debuted right
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  around the time that Dilraba did.
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  So he's had about a decade of time to be on our screens.
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  I didn't put everything that he's been in because I don't
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  really recognize everything that he's been in.
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  What? What have you guys seen him in
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  if it's not like some? Of these, I think the most, I
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  think the most recent one that people will be familiar with is
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  Snowfall, which is literally just finished up airing and a
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  lot of people loved It's Like a Vampire Story.
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  So so yeah, so. But I, I haven't watched it.
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  He's also really famous for his candle in the Tomb Roll, which
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  he's great in that it's a huge like Grave robber series in
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  China. All right, we've gone through.
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  There's a giant ensemble cast and a lot of returning cast
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  members as well. From the Eternal Love slash 10
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  Miles of Peach Blossoms show from 2017.
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  But there also isn't either. Oh yeah, there's a.
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  That's one of the things that like there's a.
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  Lot of stuff that's recast but like people that were recast as
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  well yes but I mean this is a different director than eternal
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  love 10 miles of Peach blossoms. These are different writers than
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  10 Miles of Peach Blossoms, and this is a different novel than
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  10 Balls of Peach Blossoms as well.
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  So the I was reading some of the comments and MDL, the reviews,
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  and they were saying the production team didn't have the
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  rights to adapt Pillow Book or the 10 Miles and Peach.
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  Yeah, Yeah. So that's, I mean, we'll talk
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  about it. But anyway, we're at the point
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  where I'm going to ask you guys what the hell you thought about
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  this. Show.
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  And I just as. An aside, Just as an aside, did
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  you know there's a special episode?
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  Because I did not. It's apparently, it's apparently
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  like one of those very, very short 2 minute ones.
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  It's on. Oh, I see.
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  Yeah. So it's probably nothing,
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  nothing huge, but literally it just came up as I was, you know,
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  scrolling through. I'll have to.
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  Yeah, Yeah. What did we think?
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  Yeah, what did you think? I know it.
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  You thought I would tell the class.
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  Should we let Caitlin go first? Oh, sure.
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  Oh yeah, we. Because.
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  We is into it. If we if we didn't say this
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  already and you have to go back and listen to the eternal love
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  10 miles of Peach blossoms review that we did.
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  Caitlin loves this couple. Caitlin, you have the.
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  Floor yeah. So yeah, I love this was my
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  favorite couple from 10 Miles. And I think like when they were
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  together and like, no matter if it was angsty or not, when they
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  were together, I enjoyed it. But there were so many.
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  Like, OK, I understand you needed to have three lives in
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  this thing. That's fine.
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  But like, it was like there was so much stuff at the beginning
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  of this drama that didn't need to happen.
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  And like, I feel like they could have like started somewhere
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  else. But also they were like, I feel
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  like they didn't really have scenes together until like the
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  very end. Like it like the pacing seemed
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  off to me. Like I felt like they were apart
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  a lot. And even if that was true or
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  not, I like for me I was like, why are they on other sides of
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  the world right now? Like it like it didn't make made
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  no sense. So I think for me, because I
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  love this couple so much, I was mad because we for me, it was
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  like this is supposed to be their story, but they aren't
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  together for like nearly 3/4 of the drama for in my opinion.
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  So it was like it seemed like they were still a side couple.
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  Like I think that's what I'm coming.
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  It would like, it seemed like they were still a side couple
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  and even though this was their drama and maybe that was just
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  like how it was directed or something.
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  But yeah, I mean, like I liked it when they were together and I
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  liked it when they like actually had story together.
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  But there was just too many side stories and too many side
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  characters. And like, none of really the
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  side stories really mattered overall because there was like
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  no conclusion with them really. So I think it was OK.
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  Like I don't think it was a horrible drama, but I think it
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  could have been so much better. And it also was way too long.
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  Like the pacing just did not make sense to me.
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  So for me, first of all, I completely agree.
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  This was just way way way too long.
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  It did not need 56 episodes. This could have wrapped up in
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  30. Like we could have flashed so
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  much. Out of 10 episodes of Life.
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  Yeah. Yeah, it just feels.
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  It just feels very waterlogged. It just feels like, you know,
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  they were trying to fill episodes a lot of the time.
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  For me, I enjoyed this couple in the first one.
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  In this one, I didn't buy their chemistry.
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  I really didn't. I was like, they were having
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  these beautiful kiss scenes that is supposed to make me feel like
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  butterflies and all of this. And I was like.
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  Okay, you know, it's like, I was really shocked because to me,
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  Shancha usually comes with like a, you know, epic love story and
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  I just didn't get that here. So yeah, I, I feel like it was
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  very long. I feel like the overall arching
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  theme that they had, it's like they forgot about it for 45, you
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  know, 50 episodes and then they bring it back right at the end
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  and it's so rushed and I'm like, oh, is that it?
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  And then that's like, they have this big and literally it's
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  like, is that it is so, So yeah, I, I didn't buy it.
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  I and to me, I think one of the biggest things is, is that for
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  the romance, especially for the female lead, I don't mind when
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  they start off, you know, probably allowed to are we at
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  this point of sexual okay, great.
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  So like, I don't mind when a female lead starts off very
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  cutesy and whatnot, but I need that character to grow.
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  And yes, there was some growth from our female lead, but until
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  the end, it's like they throw in this huge miscommunication right
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  at the end that can be solved in two.
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  No sense it makes. No sense I'm like, what the hell
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  are you doing? And then like it's the fact it's
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  the way that our male lead treats our female lead.
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  He doesn't treat her like an equal.
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  He treats her like a little like even the way he even the way he
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  calls her even the way he calls her.
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  He calls her shout, which like it's, it's dimmitted, like it's
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  a word that you'd use for someone, you know, for a little,
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  like it's like little something. So it's like little and then her
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  name and it's like, I don't get it.
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  Like to me, even the way like he'll pat her head and stuff
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  like that. And I'm just like, I, I'm sorry,
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  but I can't because like that's fine at the beginning of the
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  show, but if we're doing that at the end, then I can't buy this
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  relationship. It feels like there's such a
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  huge power in balance them, so big.
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  Like to me that's one of the biggest things.
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  It's like the power balance between them is so big.
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  And if you watch Shiancha, most of the shows, yes, there will be
• 22:52
  a very big power imbalance right at the beginning.
• 22:54
  But by the end, a lot of the time, these women and these
• 22:57
  female characters can whip the men like there's no tomorrow
• 23:01
  because they come into their power and they come into their,
• 23:04
  you know, person. And I just didn't get that with
• 23:07
  this drama. So that.
• 23:09
  To me, I think I might have enjoyed this more because I
• 23:14
  viewed this as D June story, not necessarily Dill Robba's
• 23:20
  characters. OK.
• 23:23
  So I think if you like took it from a viewpoint of like it's
• 23:27
  his growth from being this really stoic acceptance of like
• 23:33
  I'm never going to be with. Well, he had the bigger art or
• 23:36
  whatever she did, right? So I think I enjoyed this more
• 23:40
  because I kind of turned my head of like, it's his story, like
• 23:45
  that's it's him, like she's the supporting character.
• 23:49
  So if you're going into this drama being like, no, it's a
• 23:52
  strong female lead, that type of story, you're not going to enjoy
• 23:56
  this drama and. I think you get what I'm saying.
• 24:00
  Yeah. And I think that's where I'm
• 24:02
  coming from, because that's what I tend to prefer in my
• 24:06
  Shiangshas and my historicals. I prefer that it's not such a
• 24:12
  lean on the male lead. And this was definitely his
• 24:15
  story. And also, guys, I'm sorry but
• 24:19
  first of all, the mortal world talk to me was just boring as
• 24:24
  heck. It really was.
• 24:25
  It was way too long. It was way too long.
• 24:28
  So long. Bro, like I'm going to jump in
• 24:30
  here and just say like this show made me tired.
• 24:35
  Like I'm just tired. I'm just so exhausted.
• 24:39
  I it was super mid, super mid. I liked maybe 20% of it, maybe
• 24:46
  20% of it. I thought the show was really
• 24:49
  unfocused. I thought the plot was
• 24:51
  meandering and just a burning time just wasting my time.
• 24:58
  I thought it was a hot mess. Express narrative structure was
• 25:01
  all over the place. And each time the To your point,
• 25:07
  Caitlin, each time the main two leads were separated and did
• 25:11
  their own thing for a minute. I was utterly bored.
• 25:14
  I was like, I and maybe it's because they're individually
• 25:19
  boring characters. Yeah, like, I'm like, what is
• 25:24
  there to watch? Like it's just another what?
• 25:26
  What is there to latch onto? I was like, maybe they're just
• 25:29
  constructed badly. I thought, like, is this
• 25:32
  revealing something about how they're written badly?
• 25:36
  Like I was questioning the foundation even.
• 25:41
  I think it also plays. I thought they had pretty good
• 25:44
  chemistry, but again, I may be biased because they were my
• 25:46
  favorite couple, but I think that was one of the reasons why
• 25:49
  I found it really boring when they weren't together because
• 25:52
  the chemistry wasn't there. Like I that's the that's the
• 25:57
  main reason I didn't like it when they were alone because
• 25:59
  they just there was nothing they were playing off of.
• 26:03
  They played off of each other well in my opinion, but they
• 26:06
  needed to be together in the same scene to do that.
• 26:12
  I was very frustrated throughout the show and I it was a binge
• 26:17
  for me out of necessity. But I also feel like the same as
• 26:23
  you guys. This show is 56 episodes and for
• 26:26
  what? Yeah, yeah.
• 26:28
  For what? Yeah.
• 26:32
  I I couldn't fathom there was the one that I was really
• 26:35
  struggling with was the last when they were stuck in the
• 26:39
  dream of Aranya. Oh my God.
• 26:42
  Bitch, I was like, we're still here.
• 26:46
  We're still here. Episode.
• 26:48
  It just keeps scaring. So I actually have a timeline of
• 26:52
  all that just juxtapositioned with the internal love, like the
• 26:56
  10 miles of Peach Moss. Oh good.
• 26:58
  Oh God. So like it's like it's crazy.
• 27:02
  So apparently the the thing I found is they put the internal
• 27:06
  love Peach blossoms. Yeah.
• 27:09
  Against the eternal love, a dream timeline.
• 27:12
  OK, someone's doing rewards work.
• 27:14
  Because I was. That was another thing that I
• 27:17
  kept telling you guys. I am befuddled, confused.
• 27:21
  I'm lost because I am basing this off of the timeline in 10
• 27:26
  Miles of Peach. Blossoms and I think I couldn't
• 27:29
  figure it out. So I think that's the thing that
• 27:32
  while going back to like the copyright thing, I think that's
• 27:35
  what confused me too, and especially at the beginning,
• 27:38
  because what I learned is so they didn't have the copyright
• 27:42
  for this. When they did the intern, the 10
• 27:44
  miles of Peach blossoms blossom show, they didn't think that
• 27:47
  would become very popular. Like they had no protection of
• 27:51
  that. So they're like, we're going to
• 27:52
  buy one books rights do the drama.
• 27:56
  They decided to stick in Dilraba and Van Gogh Gaal's characters
• 28:01
  because they needed a second league couple.
• 28:03
  Like they weren't really attempting to do anything with
• 28:07
  their character. So they did a very watered down
• 28:09
  version of this book in that story to have a second league
• 28:13
  couple. So like what we got at the
• 28:15
  beginning of this drama was the watered down version they gave
• 28:19
  in 10 miles like it was a repeat, which is why we were
• 28:22
  messaging each other at the beginning of this drama.
• 28:24
  Being and it was different it it felt.
• 28:26
  Like they. Were retconning retconning
• 28:29
  everything that happened to this couple in 10?
• 28:32
  Miles of Peach blossoms. So what happened is that it was
• 28:34
  the opposite. They retconned to 10 miles of
• 28:36
  Peach blossoms to what happened in this book.
• 28:39
  So they didn't have the rights, so they couldn't like do
• 28:42
  anything. So basically that's, I think
• 28:46
  that's one of the reasons why I did not like the beginning very
• 28:49
  much is. Because I was like the 1st 27
• 28:52
  episodes. Yeah, like this is exactly what
• 28:54
  happens in 10 miles. Yeah, yeah.
• 28:57
  It's like a bastardized version of what happens in 10 miles.
• 29:00
  And I've got to be honest, I understood 10 miles way better
• 29:03
  than I understood what the fuck was happening.
• 29:05
  In eternal love of dream, just for the I don't.
• 29:08
  Yeah. Sorry, but like, I was better
• 29:11
  storytelling I guess. There's stuff that happens in
• 29:14
  this timeline before even Peach Blossom started.
• 29:18
  Right. Like there's a lot of stuff that
• 29:21
  and I think this is going off actually the books like they
• 29:25
  just went through the entire thing.
• 29:27
  But like it explains everything from like like the Irania story
• 29:33
  happened 70 years before Peach blossoms even happened.
• 29:37
  So like there was nothing happening in the Peach blossoms
• 29:41
  show. Aranya was way before that.
• 29:45
  So Aranya timeline. Happened doesn't make any sense.
• 29:48
  That's 300 years. Aranya only lived like 300
• 29:51
  years. Right, so that her host was
• 29:55
  fired 3. 100 years before the 10 miles of Peach blossoms.
• 29:58
  No, no, it started 70 years before Peach Blossoms happens,
• 30:04
  300 years before Pillow Book. So it the Irania storyline was
• 30:09
  happening while Peach blossoms was happening and it was 300
• 30:14
  years before the Pillow Book storyline, before their their
• 30:18
  storyline, Dongwa and Venjo. So the Peach Blossom storybook,
• 30:25
  it's even. Before she so even before she's
• 30:28
  a fox in his palace. Yeah, yes, yeah.
• 30:32
  Like get out like that. So it was like Irania storyline
• 30:35
  happened, then Peach Blossom started and she became like a
• 30:38
  maid in the palace, whatever and then Pillow Book happens.
• 30:43
  So it was like if you think of the three lifetimes we have in
• 30:46
  this, it's the Iranian lifetime, then it's his mortal world and
• 30:52
  then it's her like them too in the heavenly realm.
• 30:56
  So like they did it backwards in the drama.
• 30:59
  See, but that makes no. Sense because it wasn't Irania
• 31:04
  Irania and the I forget the guy like the magician or whatever
• 31:09
  they called him yeah in the Irania dream arc they're
• 31:14
  supposed to be shadows of the main character so how like that
• 31:19
  makes even less if I'm like. So he must say he must save her
• 31:25
  life in the demon realm or from some beast.
• 31:29
  Then she's like, oh, to repay his kindness, send my shadow
• 31:34
  with his shadow to recover. So basically.
• 31:38
  I'm going like there, I want, oh God.
• 31:40
  So basically according to this timeline, the entire Aranya
• 31:43
  thing happens, she dies, Shenye creates the dream world right?
• 31:49
  The next bubble I'm seeing here is the rumor that D June has
• 31:53
  descended into the moral world to experience the 7 sufferings
• 31:58
  of mortals and where in reality he's just like sleeping and then
• 32:04
  then you goes and beats his concert.
• 32:06
  So it's like her entire story happens, then he and her go into
• 32:11
  the mortal realm and then that whole ending with the the the
• 32:17
  demon Lord fight thing happens afterwards.
• 32:19
  You're making me more. Upset, they pretty much went
• 32:22
  backwards. They did it backwards, yeah.
• 32:26
  And then while they're, while they're in the demon, while
• 32:30
  they're in the mortal realm going through his mortal thing,
• 32:33
  that's when Peach Blossom happens.
• 32:35
  That's when it. Starts Yeah, yeah.
• 32:36
  Which makes sense because that aligns with Yeah.
• 32:39
  When Peach Blossoms shenanigans are happening, she's in the
• 32:44
  mortal realm. That like aligns perfectly.
• 32:46
  Yeah, so they they like he recognized her, her as SU SU and
• 32:51
  they start their real moments. So they're in the mortal realm
• 32:53
  and they're start, which didn't happen in 10 miles.
• 32:56
  Sort of didn't, didn't. Yeah.
• 33:00
  So like, so essentially eternal love, a dream did it backwards.
• 33:05
  It's madding. Which is why it was confusing.
• 33:07
  Oh. My God, I'm so mad.
• 33:09
  You're making me so mad. Yeah, yeah.
• 33:14
  I have no words at this point. I.
• 33:16
  It's bad writing. It's.
• 33:18
  Bad, because essentially, what the Pillow Book, like the Pillow
• 33:22
  Book story starts after their wedding, after Bai Chen and
• 33:27
  Yuhua's wedding, which they did in episode 25.
• 33:30
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, the wedding. So like, that's when the Pillow
• 33:33
  Book story happened, like starts.
• 33:39
  So basically we could like, if we look at the drama, episode 25
• 33:43
  is essentially when this book starts.
• 33:46
  So it didn't need to be 56. So 1224 was basically two
• 33:52
  lifetimes that we didn't really need in in total.
• 33:59
  Right. Yeah.
• 34:02
  OK, let's because the timeline in the show is he saves her in
• 34:10
  the demon realm. It's messy like I can like it's
• 34:17
  just done so chip choppy. She becomes a maid in Thong Ha
• 34:22
  de Jin's palace in the heavenly realm.
• 34:25
  They have this weird fight with the demon Lord lady in the 10
• 34:33
  even Lotus land thing and she shows up as a fox because she
• 34:38
  gets conned out of her fox tales.
• 34:42
  He thinks she's an ordinary fox and now begins her time as a
• 34:46
  regular ordinary fox pet in the heavenly realm.
• 34:50
  Then we get the mortal realm trial.
• 34:54
  Like this is the order it is in the show.
• 34:59
  Yeah. Then they're immortal again, and
• 35:03
  then they get sucked into Fannion Valley, and then you get
• 35:05
  the dream of Aranya. Yeah, the end.
• 35:09
  I'm frustrated. Oh my goodness.
• 35:12
  Writing wise, this was just a hot mess in all its glory
• 35:18
  because a lot of it makes no sense.
• 35:22
  And like there's events that even happen in 10 miles of Peach
• 35:26
  blossoms that they don't pick up or it doesn't happen at all.
• 35:31
  Like for example, she's meant to be leader of her tribe, isn't
• 35:35
  she? I was waiting for that.
• 35:37
  Picked up I. Was like, is she or is she not
• 35:40
  the queen of Ching Chu? Yeah, that was the arc that I
• 35:44
  was really, really hoping like would happen.
• 35:47
  I would have loved for her to like, become the leader and kind
• 35:51
  of like, but no. So in general, all she is
• 35:56
  throughout she, like Caitlin was saying, I guess now that you're
• 36:00
  actually that you mentioned it, that if you go in wanting his
• 36:05
  story, then you'll probably enjoy the show.
• 36:08
  But if you go in wanting a couple, then that's, you know,
• 36:13
  not what you're going to get. Because to me, I was hoping that
• 36:16
  at some point she would stop being, for lack of better words,
• 36:20
  this lovesick puppy that does everything for him.
• 36:25
  But then we got that at the end and it didn't make any sense.
• 36:29
  Yeah, yeah, because all of a sudden she's pregnant and she
• 36:33
  goes off and that's it. The love.
• 36:35
  Child, the love child in the in the last 10 episodes, I was
• 36:39
  like, Oh my gosh, it. It just makes no sense because,
• 36:43
  like, the misunderstanding is stupid, it's stupid.
• 36:47
  It is so stupid. OK, OK, let's take.
• 36:50
  OK, so let's back it up and I guess like, let's go in order.
• 36:56
  Is there anything you want to say about her time as a fox?
• 36:59
  Too long. Yeah, I agree.
• 37:02
  It was too long. And it was, again, it was like
• 37:06
  one of those things, like it was OK.
• 37:07
  Like it was. I didn't understand her
• 37:10
  thinking. Like I didn't.
• 37:12
  I didn't. Like, yeah.
• 37:16
  Obviously she couldn't turn back into human, so he wasn't gonna,
• 37:19
  like, realize that she was human or like a God or whatever.
• 37:23
  But it's like her sulking off and making assumptions about
• 37:26
  this and I'm just like, dude, it's delusional.
• 37:30
  Yeah, yeah. It's the response of a kid, not
• 37:35
  of an adult. Exactly.
• 37:37
  And The thing is also, I'm sorry but are you kidding me?
• 37:41
  He's this all powerful. He.
• 37:44
  Can't, he can't pick up, he can't pick up on her spiritual
• 37:47
  power even without her tails, even without her tails, like
• 37:53
  she's still a fox spirit even without her tails, like her core
• 37:59
  doesn't change. So it's like how, how, how are
• 38:03
  you this all powerful, all this God that everybody you know
• 38:09
  reveals and gets down on their knees for, and yet you go on
• 38:14
  tell the difference between a fox and a fox spirit.
• 38:17
  I kept trying. I kept trying to reason that
• 38:20
  like maybe he knows and he's just playing dumb because that's
• 38:24
  what he did a lot in 10 Miles was that he knew who she.
• 38:29
  Was but also like everybody underneath him knew so why the
• 38:34
  hell did no one tell him? Especially after like she got
• 38:38
  attacked and like slinkered off. I'm like OK through the three or
• 38:42
  four people who knew. Why didn't nobody tell him when
• 38:45
  he was like looking hot hell in high water looking for this box?
• 38:49
  Like what was the point? Hey, interesting turn of events
• 38:54
  actually. Bai Fengju, the queen of
• 38:56
  Chengju, is your little fox. And sorry, I didn't tell you
• 39:00
  sooner. There was no communication there
• 39:05
  that would have just solved the issue.
• 39:09
  And really, he was so astute for other things.
• 39:12
  It just didn't make any sense. So I was kept expecting him to
• 39:16
  be like, make some sort of gesture or facial expression
• 39:22
  that made you think, oh, he's in on it.
• 39:24
  He's in on the joke, he's just playing dumb because he likes
• 39:28
  having her around, right? And it never happened.
• 39:32
  I did die a little bit inside when they put like some
• 39:35
  taxidermy hand. Foot of a of a fox.
• 39:38
  Or something like in a couple of shots I was like whose dog did
• 39:44
  they take to set that day? Or like did they get like a fox
• 39:47
  foot and have that be in frame? I was dying of laughter every
• 39:51
  time they stuck the foot out. But the CGI fox, I was sick of
• 39:56
  it. I was sick of it.
• 39:58
  It lasted for I don't know how long.
• 40:00
  The times I thought it was several days.
• 40:04
  Come to find out it was hundreds of years that she was there as
• 40:07
  the fox. Again, adding to the confusion.
• 40:10
  Just throwing fuel to the fire of my befuddlement.
• 40:14
  So that was. The thing is, there's only so
• 40:20
  much that you can do to create chemistry between a man and
• 40:26
  nothing. A box.
• 40:27
  Right, he's recording with nothing.
• 40:29
  Nothing like. There's so much you can do to
• 40:33
  create that relationship. And I'm like, I it's twenty
• 40:37
  however many episodes that lasted, and we're still with a
• 40:42
  fox here. Like, I mean, come on, give me
• 40:46
  something else at this point because this is a really long
• 40:50
  time for you to go without establishing a relationship
• 40:54
  between our main couple. So.
• 40:57
  Yeah, I, yeah. Well, I mean, and he didn't even
• 41:01
  realize she was the fox until like well into their like third
• 41:08
  lifetime. Like it wasn't even like they
• 41:11
  ended. It wasn't even ended like they
• 41:14
  ended it before. They go into the dream.
• 41:16
  I told him. Right before they go into the
• 41:19
  dream of Iran. You're like fucking late in the
• 41:21
  show and you're like, you had no idea.
• 41:25
  He's like head in his hands like, Oh my gosh, I've done so
• 41:28
  much wrong to her. And I'm like, wait a second,
• 41:30
  wait a second. I think we we need an apology
• 41:32
  from the writers right now because there is no way he
• 41:36
  didn't know. Apparent because also
• 41:39
  apparently, and I could just be interpreting this wrong or maybe
• 41:42
  it was like a translation thing. Isn't it known that she's like
• 41:45
  the only red fox in the entire heavenly like in the entire
• 41:51
  world? So like you have one red fox and
• 41:54
  then you see her. Tails that are red.
• 41:57
  And you don't make that connection like.
• 42:01
  I mean, I know she's supposed to, like, show her nine tails as
• 42:04
  opposed to she's always only walking around with one tail at
• 42:08
  that point or whatever it may be.
• 42:10
  But it's like, dude, again, why are you so dumb?
• 42:15
  It's staring you in the face. So it's.
• 42:22
  Yeah. And The thing is, see, that's
• 42:23
  what I think the way he kind of treated her as a pet, and this
• 42:29
  is going to sound really bad. It's kind of almost the way he
• 42:32
  treats her later on as well, you know, with the patting on the
• 42:36
  hedge and stuff like that. And that's why I can't connect
• 42:41
  with them as a couple because it's the the power imbalance in
• 42:46
  this is insane. And yes, it's a Shancha and that
• 42:49
  happens all the time. But yeah, I I just wish we would
• 42:54
  get, we'd have got like that whole arc could have been told
• 42:58
  in such a short amount of time, like 5 episodes tops.
• 43:02
  You do not need more than that to have, you know, power as a
• 43:08
  fox with him and then get into like them as real people in a
• 43:13
  sense, connecting and whatnot. So I'm just realizing how little
• 43:22
  good I have to say about this show.
• 43:24
  I. Don't have like anything.
• 43:25
  I have hardly anything good to say about it.
• 43:27
  So she's she was a fact a maid before that.
• 43:30
  There's like a second female lead thrown in there for good
• 43:33
  measure. Some like foster sister that he
• 43:38
  had living in his palace. Right.
• 43:40
  Yeah, adopted. Person adopted sister or
• 43:43
  something. And she had like caught feelings
• 43:45
  and was causing trouble and was really fussy.
• 43:49
  And I was more concerned about the butterfly, like the little
• 43:54
  butterfly that she had sent into the mortal realm because she got
• 43:57
  mad that it like helped Bai Fengju clean up the courtyard or
• 44:01
  something at one point. This was when she was a maid,
• 44:06
  right? And I was like really concerned
• 44:07
  for the butterfly that got like sent into the mortal Rome.
• 44:10
  And then it ends up being that's a character, mortal character
• 44:14
  during their mortal Rome trial. And I was like, oh, we're going
• 44:16
  to see her later. We never fucking see the
• 44:18
  butterfly ever again. No, we don't.
• 44:22
  Yeah. I will say, though, both of the
• 44:26
  second female leads that were in this to be like, quote UN quote
• 44:32
  competition. We're not as bad as the one in
• 44:35
  10 miles and like in from like like of hating them.
• 44:38
  Like I I didn't hate them as much as like the people in
• 44:43
  Princess Wei young or 10 miles. So that's a plus for me is like,
• 44:50
  I didn't really. There was no competition.
• 44:52
  Yeah, but it wasn't angsty enough for me.
• 44:55
  It's for me. Look, I I will say I am not
• 44:59
  exactly. I actually agree with dress.
• 45:01
  It wasn't like there just wasn't there just wasn't tension
• 45:07
  because like, yes, they don't need to be as bad, but you still
• 45:13
  need someone there to sort of create a little bit of tension.
• 45:17
  And to be honest, by the end of it, there is it Jihong, She's
• 45:22
  like still pining after him. And then all of a sudden she's
• 45:27
  been, you know, left alone. And then this guy comes back and
• 45:30
  she's like throws herself in his arms.
• 45:32
  And I'm like, what? You were pining for the other
• 45:35
  one. The complete one.
• 45:36
  I was rolling my eyes to high heaven.
• 45:40
  It's like that. 180 was so unbelievable.
• 45:43
  Yeah. To me, this is the male lead
• 45:47
  story and everybody else is plot devices to get from point A to
• 45:52
  point B. That's how I see this drama now
• 45:56
  because it's like even the secondary characters.
• 45:59
  If you want to use secondary characters, great, but develop
• 46:04
  them and make use of them. Don't don't don't make them just
• 46:07
  a crown away devices because it makes for crappy storytelling
• 46:12
  like it really does so so yeah, they're.
• 46:15
  Just underutilized and. Well, even the big, even the big
• 46:20
  bad that we got at the end, like.
• 46:23
  Bro who the fuck? First of all, who the fuck cares
• 46:25
  about this big bad? Nobody but like I think.
• 46:28
  I think the problem is is we didn't get any background of
• 46:31
  her. Like no.
• 46:33
  They like they did this whole thing that that scene where he
• 46:37
  was like meditating in the in the like field or whatever.
• 46:42
  I was like, OK, clearly there's a back story.
• 46:45
  Like why is she so mad at him? Was it a romance?
• 46:48
  Was it whatever? And they like did one sentence
• 46:50
  story and I was like, OK, I don't like.
• 46:53
  Lazy. Sloppy.
• 46:56
  Yeah, it was like. The pacing was just so off and
• 46:59
  like the end was going at warp speed.
• 47:02
  They were like OK, now we have a final battle and no context of
• 47:06
  like why they're fighting other. Than it was hard to it was
• 47:10
  really hard to reconcile the demon realm in 10 miles of Peach
• 47:14
  blossoms. But the demon realm portrayed in
• 47:17
  this show as well super tough on me.
• 47:21
  I could, I could, I was like, where is the other people?
• 47:25
  Where, where's the other royal family that we got in 10 miles?
• 47:29
  Like where do they factor into this?
• 47:31
  And what about the other guy that's stuck in the bell, right?
• 47:36
  Like from 10 miles of Peach blossoms?
• 47:37
  Like where? Where does that demon Lord
• 47:39
  factor in as well? Yeah.
• 47:42
  And what is this female demon Lord have anything to do with
• 47:44
  anything? Is she older?
• 47:45
  Is she younger? I was like.
• 47:48
  Well, this happened. This happened after the bell.
• 47:52
  The Pillow book happens after Yehawa woke up at the end.
• 47:55
  No, but like this, the demon Lord lady that was in this grand
• 48:04
  tree setup, that's what I'm talking about.
• 48:07
  Like when? Was that she was before the
• 48:09
  bill? Right.
• 48:10
  So like she's been sealed for all this time.
• 48:12
  Like why exactly she's older but then why are there now suddenly
• 48:18
  all these different demon Lords and clans and it looks totally
• 48:22
  different? The aesthetic wasn't even kept
• 48:24
  from the from 10 miles of Peach blossom.
• 48:26
  I was like. Very annoyed.
• 48:29
  It was very clear this drama had a lesser budget because also I
• 48:35
  hated the costumes in this drama, the 10 miles.
• 48:39
  The 10 miles were so much more intricate and so many more
• 48:43
  designs. Whatever.
• 48:45
  And like, yeah, they kind of kept Dunghua and Bai Fuju's like
• 48:49
  costumes a little less ornate than the main couple in 10
• 48:52
  miles, but it still had detail in this.
• 48:55
  It was, I was like, no, I don't like everybody just has a like a
• 49:00
  color assigned to them and they just threw fabric on top.
• 49:04
  Like it. I did not like the costumes.
• 49:07
  I'll tell you, I was really struggling with the costuming
• 49:09
  during the Mortal Realm trial because I was like, this is when
• 49:11
  you can really do something different, right?
• 49:16
  You don't have to adhere to the same aesthetic as 10 Miles when
• 49:20
  they're in the Heavenly realm or in Ching Chu or whatever.
• 49:23
  I was expecting something a little more and really I did not
• 49:26
  like him where I'm switching to the mortal realm because we're
• 49:29
  just like moving through the story.
• 49:30
  I didn't like him wearing white as the as the king in his mortal
• 49:35
  realm trial. I hated it.
• 49:37
  Him wearing white with accents of purple as the mortal realm
• 49:40
  emperor. It did not work for me.
• 49:43
  I think this plus his silver crown make him look.
• 49:48
  I thought it made him look too simple, cheap.
• 49:52
  I thought it looked cheap too much like the heavenly realm
• 49:55
  version of him. And I thought he should have
• 49:58
  been clad in different colors. Sure, keep a keep a purple
• 50:01
  accent or two, but like, where's the gold?
• 50:03
  Usually when you're in the mortal realm, there's gold
• 50:07
  accents, gold jewelry, gold headpieces, and there was none
• 50:12
  of that. He stuck out like a sore thunk
• 50:14
  because everybody else was wearing gold except for him.
• 50:16
  He was wearing silver. It was bizarre.
• 50:20
  And I think also even not just in the mortal realm but any of
• 50:25
  the other realms for a female lead, she's a fuck spirit.
• 50:30
  Like you can have so much fun with colour for her and it just
• 50:38
  I will say, I will say in their favour that white wig is
• 50:43
  beautiful. So let's talk about the white
• 50:47
  wig. Is everything.
• 50:48
  Yeah. The white wig makes the show.
• 50:50
  Yeah, Ain't no white wig. I ain't coming.
• 50:53
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, because. He looks so good in.
• 50:58
  The white wig. I think that's why he shocked
• 51:00
  everybody in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms originally, because
• 51:03
  this guy shows up with this aura and the white wig and you're
• 51:07
  just like, who's this man? Who is this?
• 51:10
  I mean, you don't even blame Bai Fengju for falling in love with
• 51:13
  him in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms, because look at him
• 51:16
  right In this show, they keep the white wig.
• 51:18
  It looks really good. You get to the mortal realm,
• 51:20
  they give him a fucking black wig.
• 51:22
  There wasn't enough though. Like that's the other thing is
• 51:24
  like there wasn't enough white wig in this drama for me.
• 51:30
  Like he had black hair, like he had black hair like like 45
• 51:36
  episodes of the 56. I get what you mean.
• 51:39
  I get what you mean. I get what you mean.
• 51:43
  I thought you meant like there's not enough hair.
• 51:46
  Oh no. No, I get I get what you mean
• 51:51
  now I get what you mean and I would agree because he looks so
• 51:55
  much better in the white wig. He looks I even message I
• 51:59
  remember messaging you guys and being like low key, he does not
• 52:03
  look that attractive in the realm.
• 52:06
  I don't. Know.
• 52:07
  So what was that ponytail in the dream?
• 52:11
  I. Don't know, like what was the
• 52:13
  cone ponytail in the dream? I was like, I was OK with his
• 52:18
  other hairstyle in the dream, but then he came back with that
• 52:21
  ponytail after they left the high ponytail.
• 52:24
  I was like. Ariana Grande.
• 52:26
  Yeah, I was like, what the hell is this high pony like I don't
• 52:29
  get? It you got me with that one
• 52:33
  because that no accounting for that, it looks horrendous.
• 52:37
  No, it looked really bad. Like it high key bad.
• 52:40
  It did, but like back to the mortal rum.
• 52:43
  I really was glad that they didn't keep the 10 miles of
• 52:46
  Peach blossoms. The same.
• 52:48
  Scraggly beard that they have put on.
• 52:50
  Oh. Yes.
• 52:51
  Oh my God, yes. Oh, I was counting.
• 52:54
  I was like, oh, who do I have to pay?
• 52:56
  Who would I have to send my check to?
• 52:57
  Because thank you for not doing that again.
• 53:00
  They changed the whole vibe, the entire vibe of the mortal Trial
• 53:05
  for this show. But again, this was the one that
• 53:08
  was true, the novel. Though it was true to the novel,
• 53:11
  but it sucked. I know, but like that was like,
• 53:14
  that's what like drove me nuts is like after I found out that
• 53:17
  like 10 miles was just a watered down version and the fact that
• 53:20
  that was a better story than what was in the novel was like,
• 53:25
  are you kidding me? I had this note here.
• 53:27
  She has more chemistry with General Ching TI.
• 53:31
  She does. Thank you, Thank you.
• 53:34
  So me personally, I agree. Perfect.
• 53:37
  Yeah. OK.
• 53:38
  I was like, am I? Am I seeing things?
• 53:40
  Because I sense chemistry between her and this guy.
• 53:44
  And I loved the storyline that they had going for them.
• 53:48
  I wish that was the real thing versus a fake plotline that she
• 53:51
  basically plays up for the sake of their tragic love trial.
• 53:55
  The romance misfortune which is she falls in love with his
• 53:59
  general. Right.
• 54:01
  I was like, yeah, let's not make that fake.
• 54:03
  Let's make that real because I was into it.
• 54:07
  There was something there. See that's that's a good second
• 54:10
  male lead. That's a really good second to.
• 54:13
  Me. To me, that's a good second male
• 54:16
  lead when you can feel that tension and feel that
• 54:20
  possibility there. Whereas with the second female
• 54:25
  leads I was like, there's nothing there.
• 54:27
  It's like I'm not even bothered. So So yeah, I really liked him.
• 54:32
  I like the fact that he got he does get brought back into the
• 54:37
  immortal realm, but then. Like.
• 54:39
  See him right till the end again, it's like.
• 54:43
  But then even that I was just like, for what?
• 54:46
  Because didn't he not remember? Didn't the guy?
• 54:50
  I mean, I could be wrong. Didn't the guy?
• 54:52
  Didn't he Didn't remember anything.
• 54:54
  Yeah, so why did he even do that at the very end?
• 54:57
  Like he shouldn't have known her or like had those feelings from
• 55:03
  his mortal life. And then he attempts to like not
• 55:08
  make her go into that bubble. I'm like, dude, you're not
• 55:11
  supposed to remember her or any like why are you stopping her?
• 55:15
  That didn't make any sense to me.
• 55:17
  I was like, and again, it was like it happened in like episode
• 55:20
  55 of 56. I was like, shoot, nothing is
• 55:24
  going to happen here. Like you're not.
• 55:26
  Going to happen like there were several Mac guffins of like she
• 55:29
  needs the pimp on fruit to transfer his mortal
• 55:35
  consciousness or soul into an immortal body.
• 55:38
  And so the ping pom proof was was a thing and then the the
• 55:43
  lingby stone as well was another macguffin, the soul locking jade
• 55:47
  come. I was like, I'm losing track of
• 55:50
  these little like shit things that I have to pay attention to
• 55:53
  and they don't matter. Yeah.
• 55:56
  They do not matter in the grand scheme of things at all, and I
• 55:59
  generally thought that that second male lead was going to
• 56:03
  play a larger part in the. Special one show, Especially
• 56:07
  when he got to the heaven, Yeah. Especially because she
• 56:10
  specifically brought him back to the heavens to repay him for
• 56:14
  dying for her in the mortal realm and just never happened.
• 56:19
  It's just DOA. Well, then the other thing.
• 56:22
  That like didn't make sense to me is like, so they get back
• 56:25
  from the mortal trial, right And he like starts Vengo Gal's
• 56:31
  character starts having like dreams of like his life in the
• 56:36
  mortal world. So again, I'm like, oh, he's
• 56:38
  gonna remember her 'cause he's gonna remember she's a the fox.
• 56:42
  Like everything's gonna come back.
• 56:43
  Nothing came of that either. It was like that like never.
• 56:48
  I was just like, there's so many things that were like brought up
• 56:51
  that were never no talked about again.
• 56:55
  I know. Do you know?
• 56:56
  Do you know what this drama reminds me of?
• 57:01
  So you're making and everything but the sing dinner where a
• 57:08
  little bit of this, a little bit of that, and that's what this
• 57:12
  drama is. There's just no pain off like
• 57:15
  and also, did we say there was? Was it just one screenwriter or
• 57:20
  is it? Oh, is there's 33 screenwriters.
• 57:22
  And of course, the novel that it's based off of.
• 57:25
  I feel like so one screenwriter wrote one bit and then it handed
• 57:31
  the puck to the next and they wrote a little bit and then it
• 57:33
  handed. Do you know, like those relays
• 57:36
  where you kind of come in and you're doing like a food
• 57:41
  something and you kind of have to try and figure out what to do
• 57:44
  and what the other person did and you know nothing?
• 57:47
  That's how I feel like the screenwriters did this show.
• 57:51
  It's like a, you know, relay where you're trying to figure
• 57:54
  out what was done before you and trying to leave clues for the
• 57:58
  next one to pick up on, but it isn't picked up on so.
• 58:03
  Yeah, there were a couple of things that I didn't like, one
• 58:06
  having to do with the end of the mortal trial, and one more
• 58:09
  general thing, which was at the end of the mortal trial, he dies
• 58:13
  of depression slash heartbreak several years later.
• 58:17
  I almost fast forwarded through his death scene because I was
• 58:20
  just so over it. But they never said that he woke
• 58:26
  up early. Like he woke up too early, ended
• 58:30
  his mortal trial too early, and so that's why he didn't get back
• 58:35
  his full cultivation. They never said that.
• 58:40
  And I was like, that's something that if you didn't watch
• 58:42
  Timeouts of Peach blossoms, you wouldn't know.
• 58:44
  Or if you didn't read the novel, the translated novel, you would
• 58:47
  never know that. That's the reason why he wasn't
• 58:51
  at 100% when he woke up from the mortal trial.
• 58:55
  He was like only at 80% or something like that, 80% of his
• 58:59
  power, and it just didn't. I was like, that's important to
• 59:04
  me that the love was so strong, even if it wasn't like as an
• 59:08
  audience, you're kind of like us three were kind of mad about the
• 59:12
  whole thing. It was such a strong love trial
• 59:17
  that he died of heartbreak earlier than it was faded or
• 59:23
  written for his mortal life. So like she killed him early
• 59:30
  basically. She did.
• 59:32
  She did. I I like they never said that.
• 59:35
  And then second of all, they they don't really dwell on the
• 59:39
  fact that he is so much older than her.
• 59:41
  No, they don't. It's crazy.
• 59:44
  And I thought that was strange too, because in like, they're
• 59:47
  like, they're like all the time. 200,000 years age difference
• 59:51
  between them. Like there's, there's like a
• 59:53
  huge age difference. Yeah, yeah.
• 59:56
  Yeah, and they don't really bring it up.
• 59:57
  They're just like, oh, she's so young.
• 59:59
  They kind of just dwell on the fact that she's so young, but
• 1:00:02
  they don't say things like he's her.
• 1:00:05
  He could be her great, great, great grandfather or something
• 1:00:08
  like that. That's what the stuff that they
• 1:00:09
  were doing in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms.
• 1:00:13
  And I was like, I think I'm missing that the fact that like.
• 1:00:17
  It's so out of character for him.
• 1:00:19
  He's not had any love interest or any Empress in like all of
• 1:00:23
  these hundreds of thousands of years, and he's so much older
• 1:00:28
  than her. Right.
• 1:00:30
  And The thing is, for me as well, it's like, how?
• 1:00:35
  And what is it about her that has shaken him out of the fact
• 1:00:40
  that he's because like in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms, it's
• 1:00:44
  explained that he doesn't have his like love threads or
• 1:00:48
  whatever it is, he gave those up.
• 1:00:51
  So he's not supposed to be able to fall in love.
• 1:00:54
  Like where's that story? Like what is it about her
• 1:00:58
  specifically that has made him overcome the fact that he's not
• 1:01:03
  supposed to fall in love because he doesn't have those threads?
• 1:01:07
  Like they don't pick up that in this, at least that I can.
• 1:01:12
  Guys, I'm going to be very honest.
• 1:01:13
  I've forgotten a lot of the details already because I was
• 1:01:16
  like but I don't think I remember that being picked up in
• 1:01:20
  this one but. Again, you have to remember that
• 1:01:23
  was made-up like like that might not have been in the book.
• 1:01:27
  According to what I found out, what's in eternal love a dream
• 1:01:31
  is like 90% accurate, 95% accurate of the book.
• 1:01:36
  So the love thread thing from 10 miles probably wasn't in the
• 1:01:40
  book. It was made-up like they didn't
• 1:01:42
  have the right, so they couldn't do it.
• 1:01:43
  OK, that's fine, but let's fine, let's take that out of cut out
• 1:01:48
  of the window. He's not been with anybody for
• 1:01:52
  thousands of years. What is it about her?
• 1:01:54
  Like I wasn't convinced enough that she's so like, you know,
• 1:01:59
  special or whatever, especially because she is so much younger
• 1:02:03
  than him. She's like a little kid.
• 1:02:05
  And then they emphasized that around him that, you know, she
• 1:02:10
  even acts like one a lot of the time around him.
• 1:02:13
  And like I said, it's emphasized by him calling her like Xiao and
• 1:02:18
  whatnot. It's like, I don't understand.
• 1:02:22
  And I couldn't, I don't think they sold it well enough to me
• 1:02:26
  that this guy who's supposed to have never been in love or
• 1:02:30
  whatever has fallen head over heels for her.
• 1:02:35
  Like I think that's one of my biggest problems with this and
• 1:02:40
  especially with like the mortal realm arc.
• 1:02:44
  The mortal Realm arc is notorious for being, you know,
• 1:02:49
  the sucky part of every church. It is notorious for being like
• 1:02:55
  the the bit that they lag on even like the greatest churches
• 1:03:00
  out there tend to have that, you know, mortal realm slump.
• 1:03:05
  But even saying that there is ways for you to be able to do a
• 1:03:09
  mortal realm arc well enough that it you know, it's not I
• 1:03:15
  think like top the top of my head, one that comes to mind
• 1:03:18
  straight away is like the ashes of love mortal realm.
• 1:03:21
  I really like that. But in this one, it's just like,
• 1:03:25
  it's the fact that the mortal realm is so is just like so
• 1:03:30
  slow. But that just seems to be the
• 1:03:33
  pacing of the whole show in general.
• 1:03:35
  And then it's like slow, slow, slow.
• 1:03:37
  And then in the last two episodes, it's like the writers
• 1:03:41
  realized they forgot all of these plot lines and they're
• 1:03:44
  just like throwing everything in and, you know, this hodgepodge.
• 1:03:49
  I think for me the biggest problem with this show is
• 1:03:53
  writing in in general. Yeah, I don't necessarily think
• 1:03:56
  it's the acting. They can't act through a bad
• 1:04:01
  script. Like no matter who is cast, I
• 1:04:07
  feel like the the script is bad. It's bad, right?
• 1:04:12
  It's going to be bad. So I think we're up to like
• 1:04:15
  episode 22 or something like that because this is when Lai
• 1:04:20
  Qian gets married and Fengdu goes to visit her and we get a
• 1:04:25
  cameo from the Ogs in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms.
• 1:04:32
  And I perked up. It was like somebody like gave
• 1:04:36
  me water in the desert. I was like, Oh my God, it's my
• 1:04:39
  girl from 10 miles. It's my auntie from 10 miles.
• 1:04:46
  And I didn't like the the wedding.
• 1:04:50
  It was so underwhelming. We were going to see more.
• 1:04:55
  We didn't even see Yehawa like Mark, Mark Mark child like
• 1:04:58
  didn't even come back for this role.
• 1:05:02
  He didn't come reprise his role. So that was a little.
• 1:05:07
  But apparently also according to this timeline, the end where
• 1:05:11
  they like close up the the bubble, Yehawa and BI Chen are
• 1:05:15
  supposed to be there like in the book.
• 1:05:18
  In the book they were the ones helping out, but according
• 1:05:23
  according to like scheduling and stuff, they couldn't come back
• 1:05:26
  for that scene. So like.
• 1:05:28
  Also can someone explain to me why our OG couple's kid is never
• 1:05:35
  with their parents and is always like being shipped off to
• 1:05:39
  everyone else but hit? Their rats, everybody but Bai
• 1:05:43
  Chan and Yehua have babysitting duties.
• 1:05:47
  For because they wanted to, like, together constantly.
• 1:05:51
  Oh, yeah, true. Like, yeah.
• 1:05:52
  Also they're like, was it just me?
• 1:05:54
  Was it just me or was that a girl playing a boy?
• 1:05:57
  No, it was a little girl. OK.
• 1:05:58
  I was like, I was so confused when I saw her for the first
• 1:06:02
  time because I was like, I could have sworn they had a son.
• 1:06:05
  Like, that is clearly a girl. Like what is going on?
• 1:06:09
  And then I realized it was a girl pretending to be a boy.
• 1:06:12
  And I'm like, yeah, they. Recasted Ali.
• 1:06:14
  Obviously because the original child aged out.
• 1:06:18
  Oh yeah, totally. But why did they?
• 1:06:20
  Do when they casted a little girl.
• 1:06:23
  I know very clearly a girl, too. It wasn't like, yeah, I just, I,
• 1:06:29
  I was like, I was very thrown off by that when she came into
• 1:06:31
  the picture for the first time. Yeah, especially because, you
• 1:06:35
  know, they can cast a boy because they did so with like
• 1:06:39
  this, You know the kid, right? Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Yeah. So I yeah.
• 1:06:45
  Right. Right.
• 1:06:46
  Oh my God. So anyway, there is a quick
• 1:06:50
  engagement to Lord Sanghi where she signs the marriage contract
• 1:06:56
  while she's drunk. And because she thought she
• 1:06:58
  could move on with somebody who adores her, she gets this advice
• 1:07:03
  from her bestie and Papa by her dad will not cancel the
• 1:07:10
  marriage. And I was like, OK, we need to
• 1:07:13
  pause here because I think that her dad is abusive.
• 1:07:18
  There are so many instances of like, Oh yeah, she did this and
• 1:07:23
  then she got a beating from her dad or yada, yada, yada.
• 1:07:28
  And then she got beat up for several days from her dad.
• 1:07:32
  And it's like a constant cycle of she's being this
• 1:07:37
  cantankerous, mischievous fox, which is in her nature.
• 1:07:41
  Like that's across Xiancha. Like Fox's fox spirits are
• 1:07:46
  mischievous and he's like constantly beating on her and
• 1:07:52
  trying to get her to grow up. And he thought that her making
• 1:07:58
  her honor this marriage that she signed while she was drunk and
• 1:08:04
  he knew she was drunk, that this would get her to kind of grow up
• 1:08:09
  quickly. Her marrying an upstanding young
• 1:08:12
  immortal like Lord C will like quickly make her mature into a
• 1:08:16
  good monarch. And I just have my notes like
• 1:08:18
  WTF like in all caps. I just thought that this was a
• 1:08:23
  red flag situation that the show sort of glosses over the fact
• 1:08:29
  that her dad is low key a problem.
• 1:08:34
  Lord C will not cancel the marriage even after she gives
• 1:08:38
  him multiple excuses that are all valid and they fight on his
• 1:08:43
  front doorstep until he finally cancels the marriage and says
• 1:08:48
  he'll wait for her. We never circle back on this
• 1:08:50
  character on the 2nd male lead. Redone.
• 1:08:54
  Also, he's in 10 miles. Yes, like.
• 1:08:58
  Yes. I He walked up and I'm like,
• 1:09:01
  wait. Wait a minute.
• 1:09:02
  Wait, he's supposed to be like seeming or something like he was
• 1:09:07
  one of like the two like lovebird, like the gay guy, the
• 1:09:10
  gay uncles and and internal internal blossoms 10 miles and
• 1:09:16
  I'm like. Cycling actors What?
• 1:09:19
  OK, it just makes me more confused.
• 1:09:22
  Anyway, 24 is the marriage by trans marriage.
• 1:09:25
  Yeah Hua. And this is what I start to
• 1:09:28
  like. Buy in 24 episodes into the show
• 1:09:33
  is when I finally start to sense a love story.
• 1:09:37
  Yeah, which is when parallel. Real story.
• 1:09:39
  Oh. My God, that's that's The thing
• 1:09:43
  is like the novel started after the wedding like the 1st 24
• 1:09:48
  episodes was not in the novel was not supposed to be there.
• 1:09:57
  I. I'm just, I'm just exasperated
• 1:09:59
  at this point, really. Yeah, I really AM.
• 1:10:04
  And this is when you start to see a different performance from
• 1:10:06
  Bengo as well, because he starts to smile, he starts to loosen
• 1:10:11
  up, he starts to pay attention to her.
• 1:10:14
  He's very intrigued by her. There's something about her that
• 1:10:17
  demands his attention and maybe there's something familiar about
• 1:10:21
  her. We never kind of go into why he
• 1:10:24
  is so interested in her, other than the fact that she's sort of
• 1:10:30
  fun and different. Always there in the marriage
• 1:10:35
  banquet. I think he smiles when she comes
• 1:10:38
  in with like a pot, like an orchid flower or something like
• 1:10:41
  that, that she brought him to the wedding reception and he
• 1:10:45
  Yanks the flower pot from her. It causes her to like fall over
• 1:10:49
  and cause a little scene and he's smiling at this scene that
• 1:10:53
  he's caused. He causes her a little bit
• 1:10:56
  embarrassment. He also pranks her when she's
• 1:10:59
  out doing the blind dates that Bichen sets up for her.
• 1:11:03
  And he's constantly around the area where she does these blind
• 1:11:08
  dates, which is like classic you know, Shin cha and see drama
• 1:11:13
  fodder. But I liked the moment when he
• 1:11:16
  pulls up and she thinks that she's talking to her servant.
• 1:11:20
  Yeah. And he's just, like, having tea
• 1:11:22
  casually behind her. Yeah, that's a great moment.
• 1:11:25
  Yeah. He saves her from this fire
• 1:11:28
  beast thing because they were going to go watch her play at
• 1:11:30
  the top of a mountain, her and Ali, And suddenly there's a fire
• 1:11:34
  beast that's up there rampaging. He saves her, and he flirts with
• 1:11:39
  her. He starts to flirt with her
• 1:11:41
  aggressively. And I'm like, OK.
• 1:11:42
  I'm like, OK, give me more. Like more.
• 1:11:46
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:11:50
  He's talking to like, I think the third Prince, and the Prince
• 1:11:54
  is talking about, oh, there's like various stories about what
• 1:11:57
  happened when you saved this beauty from this fire beast.
• 1:12:02
  And he gives the three different scenarios and one of them is
• 1:12:06
  true. Like one of them is the real
• 1:12:08
  thing that happened. And the only thing that donghua
• 1:12:12
  picks up is they think she's a beauty.
• 1:12:15
  Then they have good taste. And I was like screaming, like
• 1:12:19
  during this little thing, I was like, Oh my God, like he this
• 1:12:24
  stuff was good. Yeah, these little things were
• 1:12:27
  good. Yeah.
• 1:12:28
  Right. Then they get sucked into
• 1:12:31
  Fannion Valley. Well, no, no, no before.
• 1:12:34
  They do No, let me let me talk about.
• 1:12:35
  Something OK, OK, go, go, go. The handkerchief thing.
• 1:12:39
  Oh, the handkerchief. That happened before the dream.
• 1:12:42
  I'm like Oh my God, what the hell?
• 1:12:45
  Like like 1st we get a fox at the beginning of the drama and
• 1:12:49
  now we have a handkerchief. Like why, why?
• 1:12:55
  Like understandably I get why, but like it's just like, of all
• 1:13:00
  the things that turned into, how do we turn into a hand even?
• 1:13:03
  More after giving us some addicting you know, they're
• 1:13:08
  giving us they're using salt in the food finally.
• 1:13:13
  But also it's like it is very clear that he knows she's the
• 1:13:16
  handkerchief. So why did he know he she's a
• 1:13:19
  handkerchief but not the fox for the entire like first part of
• 1:13:24
  the straba Like that was the other thing I was really
• 1:13:27
  confused about was like he knew she was the handkerchief like
• 1:13:30
  very, very early on. I don't understand how he knew
• 1:13:35
  she was. The first of all, it sounds like
• 1:13:36
  we're we're talking crazy right now.
• 1:13:38
  He knew she was the handkerchief, that we sound like
• 1:13:41
  crazy people. She turns herself into a
• 1:13:44
  handkerchief. To hide like she doesn't want to
• 1:13:47
  see him. So she turns herself into a
• 1:13:49
  handkerchief and her nephew lies, quote UN quote lies.
• 1:13:54
  Ali lies and says that he she like ran away or wasn't there or
• 1:13:58
  whatever and he immediately knows she's the handkerchief on
• 1:14:01
  the table like. Takes 2.5 seconds for him to
• 1:14:05
  figure it out exactly. But yeah, hundreds of years
• 1:14:09
  together and he can't figure out she's a fox spirit.
• 1:14:12
  Yeah. Yeah, this makes total sense.
• 1:14:15
  Total sense. The only thing I could think of
• 1:14:18
  of like to rationalize why he couldn't figure that out is the
• 1:14:23
  fact that the demon stole her fur.
• 1:14:26
  Like I was like well maybe whatever he stole caused the
• 1:14:31
  detection of her being a fox spirit to not exist anymore.
• 1:14:35
  Like that was the only rational thing I steal.
• 1:14:37
  Her primordial. Spirit, I know, but like, that
• 1:14:41
  was the only rational thing. I don't know.
• 1:14:43
  That was the only rational thing I could think of.
• 1:14:45
  Like, yeah. Especially having seen 10 miles
• 1:14:49
  and there was no, he was under no illusion like he knew who she
• 1:14:53
  was. Even as a box.
• 1:14:55
  It was stupid. So I already had that in my mind
• 1:14:58
  and I was like, he's it's like he's all powerful.
• 1:15:02
  Why wouldn't he know that's who she is?
• 1:15:04
  Anyway, I did the Fanion Valley her getting sucked in by this
• 1:15:09
  crazy tornado that only happens like this opening of this valley
• 1:15:14
  that only happens every sixty years.
• 1:15:16
  Yeah, with demon Lord yen, who like was bothersome like a
• 1:15:20
  little fly like buzzing around. Don't watch it June like trying
• 1:15:24
  to fight him every so often because of the other second
• 1:15:27
  female lead. I was like fuck, I was over it.
• 1:15:31
  But then they actually land in this valley and was like, oh,
• 1:15:34
  we're here now, like we're just here for the rest of the show
• 1:15:37
  basically. Yeah, that's what happens.
• 1:15:40
  Yep, hand over heart. Worst part of the show, and this
• 1:15:44
  is over half the show is. That, but at least they had a
• 1:15:47
  relationship in the drama, like in the dream, like I was like I
• 1:15:52
  was, at least they're together. At least they have like a
• 1:15:55
  romance. I just like he shows up before
• 1:16:01
  they even enter the dream. He shows up to give a tea
• 1:16:04
  ceremony lesson half a year later after they've been trapped
• 1:16:07
  in Fannion Valley and is like, hey, I'm here to rescue you,
• 1:16:11
  Boo. And she's like, now you're here
• 1:16:14
  to come and get me. He could have opened a hole in
• 1:16:18
  this valley at any point. He knows how to get in.
• 1:16:21
  And he just like left her in there.
• 1:16:26
  I couldn't understand it. And where the heck was he even
• 1:16:31
  at? Like, why?
• 1:16:34
  Yeah, I couldn't understand that whole part.
• 1:16:39
  So then he turns into a purple handkerchief to appease her
• 1:16:43
  'cause she's really angry, does he?
• 1:16:46
  He does not. It's a lie.
• 1:16:49
  It's a fake handkerchief that he turns into.
• 1:16:51
  But I did like the fact that he when he supposedly turned
• 1:16:56
  himself into a purple handkerchief, he places it on
• 1:16:59
  her head like a bridal veil. And I was like, but then it
• 1:17:04
  wasn't even fucking him. So it was it was just stupid.
• 1:17:09
  Like he was using magic to full time in space and play go with
• 1:17:13
  the third Prince in the heavenly.
• 1:17:16
  Like I was like bro like he can't even.
• 1:17:19
  Why didn't you full time like six months ago?
• 1:17:24
  Right, so he she's trying to steal the ping pong tree fruit
• 1:17:32
  to bring back Qing T, the other second male lead from the Mortal
• 1:17:36
  Brom trial back to life. He changes this tunnel that they
• 1:17:41
  dug her and the Demon Lord Yan they dug this tunnel.
• 1:17:47
  They can't tell the tree. I was like, this is kind of
• 1:17:49
  funny. But then he he changes it.
• 1:17:52
  Donghua changes it to three passageways and one leads to him
• 1:17:56
  again. What's funny is the fact that
• 1:17:59
  this the framing device of the female demon Lord that's sealed
• 1:18:06
  in this tree thing, she can enter Fannin Valley at her will.
• 1:18:11
  Like she just can send a projection of herself anytime
• 1:18:16
  she wants. And so she sends one at the time
• 1:18:19
  that they're going to steal this piece of fruit.
• 1:18:23
  And it looks like she's seducing donghua, like she's all over
• 1:18:27
  him. But Fengju figures out that
• 1:18:32
  she's foul and fights with her and protects him.
• 1:18:35
  And he ends up like, they do this, like, couple fight.
• 1:18:39
  Do you remember? Like he holds her waist and
• 1:18:41
  grabs the sword with her to fend her off.
• 1:18:43
  It's like, super sexy. And I was like, OK, you're
• 1:18:46
  giving something. They did actually really like
• 1:18:49
  that part, right? Right, right.
• 1:18:50
  But that's like that's why I was like, we need more background on
• 1:18:54
  her because like why is she trying to do like did they have
• 1:18:57
  a relationship before he sealed her away?
• 1:19:00
  Like she clearly like we got no background on the Batty like at
• 1:19:06
  all. Like why is she all of a sudden
• 1:19:08
  trying to seduce him in the middle of this field?
• 1:19:11
  They're like, it was a front, like that was an illusion,
• 1:19:14
  right? That she was doing that, right.
• 1:19:16
  She wasn't really seducing him. It was just they were actually
• 1:19:20
  fighting. Yeah.
• 1:19:21
  Somehow, yeah. Spiritually, I don't know.
• 1:19:25
  Anyway, I think she asked him after that because he's sort of
• 1:19:28
  injured. I think Semi that's.
• 1:19:30
  Why He's like meditating in the field.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, So she asked him, what are you thinking about?
• 1:19:36
  And he says, I'm thinking about you.
• 1:19:37
  And I was like, oh, he's flirting again, flirty.
• 1:19:41
  And I, it's. It's only when he chooses to be
• 1:19:43
  because to me, it was very hot and cold throughout the show.
• 1:19:48
  Yeah. And I'm not sure if that worked
• 1:19:50
  for me at all that it was like. Work for me.
• 1:19:53
  He would like be all over her and be really flirty, and then
• 1:19:57
  he'd be like I'll see you later and then gone, for they would be
• 1:20:01
  separated. He'd go do his own thing.
• 1:20:03
  He would like forget about her for large swallows of time or
• 1:20:09
  ignore her. And I just didn't think that was
• 1:20:15
  right. You know, she writes that in, I
• 1:20:18
  prefer like a slow build, but steady.
• 1:20:23
  Whereas this, we're on, we're off, we're on, we're off.
• 1:20:26
  Like I'll give you something and now I'm back backing up and then
• 1:20:31
  I don't know. But again, I don't think this
• 1:20:34
  was an acting problem. I think it was a writing.
• 1:20:38
  Absolutely. Problem because you know when
• 1:20:43
  then it comes the moments when they are together and it's it's
• 1:20:48
  sweet. Like for me, it's not that,
• 1:20:51
  again, all consuming love story that I would expect of Asiancha,
• 1:20:55
  but it's sweet enough because to me there wasn't that build of
• 1:21:01
  their relationship. And I think that's why it
• 1:21:04
  doesn't work for me as well because I like seeing the
• 1:21:09
  development of a relationship throughout the drama.
• 1:21:14
  I think it just adds to the experience of it.
• 1:21:17
  Whereas he, like Jess was saying they're hot and they're cold and
• 1:21:22
  they're hot and they're cold and, you know, it's very
• 1:21:25
  inconsistent. And then that means that, you
• 1:21:29
  know, they kind of lose that rhythm when they are together.
• 1:21:33
  For me anyways. I don't think I might.
• 1:21:36
  It bothered me as much as you guys, but because I mean, I
• 1:21:40
  think I also attributed that to the main couple in 10 miles too
• 1:21:44
  though, as they were like that, like not as drastic because
• 1:21:49
  obviously Van Gogh. This is very drastic.
• 1:21:51
  It's like not as drastic, but I think I saw parallels between
• 1:21:54
  the two so I don't think it bothers I.
• 1:21:56
  Can't say that I did. I can't say that I did.
• 1:22:00
  But this scene is a good scene, right?
• 1:22:03
  Like the he's very cheeky. He lays his head on her lap and
• 1:22:07
  says like, his hands are cold, she should warm them up.
• 1:22:10
  And so he gets her to hold hands with him, and they end up lying
• 1:22:13
  on that outdoor bed together. He's awake, she's asleep.
• 1:22:17
  And he says people always want some sort of protection from
• 1:22:24
  him, but this is the first time that someone wants to protect
• 1:22:26
  him. And I was like, OK, that's
• 1:22:28
  something like a reason why he is falling in love with her,
• 1:22:33
  right, is because she, you know, whatever with what little she
• 1:22:37
  has, she protects him. She's not drawn to him because
• 1:22:41
  of his power or status. I think it just moves from
• 1:22:46
  there. Episode 31 she's sick from
• 1:22:50
  sleeping in that same barrier, which I guess gives her bad
• 1:22:53
  nightmares. It was like evil juju in there
• 1:22:56
  and he takes care of her. She cuddles him in her sleep,
• 1:22:59
  which of course he lets her do. Someone is outside the door
• 1:23:02
  after she wakes up. It's the the other I can't.
• 1:23:06
  Remember her name? Jihong.
• 1:23:07
  Is it Jihong? Yes, yes, Jihong.
• 1:23:10
  And she pushes him under the covers to hide and he's all
• 1:23:14
  like, why should I hide from Jihong?
• 1:23:16
  Like he doesn't understand like relationship dynamics, right?
• 1:23:20
  And propriety to a certain extent.
• 1:23:25
  And I guess it's because he's so old, like he doesn't give a shit
• 1:23:28
  anymore, right? But he flips her over onto her
• 1:23:32
  back and he's on top of her and he says, like, you might have
• 1:23:35
  misunderstood me. Are you done?
• 1:23:37
  If you're done, be a good girl now and lie down.
• 1:23:39
  I'll go fetch your medicine. And I was like, girl, bye bye.
• 1:23:45
  The be a good girl now. I was like, if that's not in a
• 1:23:48
  fan fake, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:23:50
  Here is I think starts up the worst part of the show for me
• 1:23:54
  and it's the dream. I mean, what did you guys think
• 1:23:58
  of this freaking dream that lasts for until like episode 49
• 1:24:02
  or 50? So from episode 34 till like 49
• 1:24:09
  they're stuck in the dream of a Rania.
• 1:24:11
  Right. Again, I was OK with it in terms
• 1:24:15
  of like, at least they were a couple.
• 1:24:17
  Like, it took a bit because she didn't remember anything, but
• 1:24:20
  like, at least they eventually were a couple again in this
• 1:24:24
  dream. Yeah, it did last too long in my
• 1:24:26
  opinion, but at least they weren't like separated for 25
• 1:24:30
  episodes, so I was OK with it. I.
• 1:24:34
  I think it was too long. I did like the couple of scenes
• 1:24:39
  that we got where they were together, especially like
• 1:24:42
  towards the end and they're just walking through the market and
• 1:24:45
  there's that scene where they have this beautiful kiss on the
• 1:24:49
  bridge with like the flower petals and whatnot.
• 1:24:52
  So it's it hits a lot of the Shiancha beats in a sense, but
• 1:24:57
  it did not need to be that long. And also a lot of the story is
• 1:25:03
  not necessary for the drama as a whole.
• 1:25:06
  Like, Oh my gosh, it's unneeded and unwanted in the story.
• 1:25:13
  It's really not necessary because basically she needs to
• 1:25:17
  recuperate or whatever, you know, and she's doing that in
• 1:25:20
  this dream world as well. But it's just like, it's not
• 1:25:25
  necessary. And it's the fact that this
• 1:25:28
  other guy is also in love with her and yet he's just a shade
• 1:25:35
  or, you know, a shadow. Like it's the same thing.
• 1:25:41
  Yeah, it's not necessary. Why are we going round in
• 1:25:44
  circles? They needed a third life.
• 1:25:47
  That's why they needed three lives for this drama.
• 1:25:53
  That's. Pretty much it.
• 1:25:55
  I don't think it, the memory loss thing was killing me for a
• 1:25:59
  while that she initially loses her memory when they get into
• 1:26:03
  the dream. She can't remember anything
• 1:26:06
  after being a fox in his palace. And so she I think she they had
• 1:26:12
  their first kiss in episode 35. She kisses him, he kisses her
• 1:26:16
  back. They're like rolling around on
• 1:26:18
  this bed and she thinks this is a dream so she can take
• 1:26:22
  advantage of him, which is kind of funny.
• 1:26:24
  But again, that's memory loss. He realizes that she's all
• 1:26:28
  banged up. Her cultivation's a mess.
• 1:26:31
  She needs to recuperate. So he takes her primordial
• 1:26:35
  spirit out of her body and puts it in some other character, like
• 1:26:41
  non playable character in the dream so that it can, you know,
• 1:26:46
  do better. Yeah, but he thinks it's a it
• 1:26:49
  like he thinks it's a. Baby, he thinks he put it like
• 1:26:52
  he thinks he put it in a pregnant.
• 1:26:55
  Yeah, he does. He put it in a fetus.
• 1:26:56
  Yeah. And that's not what happened.
• 1:26:59
  She gets absorbed into Aranya's body.
• 1:27:07
  Fengji's real body is put in like a Snow White.
• 1:27:11
  Casket. Ice casket in a in a flake or
• 1:27:16
  something, just waiting to be reunited with basically her soul
• 1:27:21
  and the rest of the dream carries on.
• 1:27:24
  And this Oranya who has obviously looks just like Bai
• 1:27:28
  Feng Ju. This character has no memory at
• 1:27:30
  all of who she is, where she came from, anything at all.
• 1:27:35
  Like she she's, they're calling her Aranya.
• 1:27:38
  They're telling her she likes snakes and bathes with snake oil
• 1:27:42
  and has a pet snake. Like all these things and
• 1:27:46
  nothing is clicking. She's deathly afraid of snakes
• 1:27:50
  and none of her back story is seeming like her.
• 1:27:54
  I was like, oh, we're back here. Yeah.
• 1:27:58
  It's like 2 step forward, 10 steps back, and that's how the
• 1:28:02
  whole show fell to me. Even though it wasn't she
• 1:28:05
  supposed to be also a shadow of. Yes, she's she's.
• 1:28:10
  Character that was, and this took protect.
• 1:28:13
  Long to reveal and it was just this big exposition dump when it
• 1:28:19
  finally happened. They took 155,000 years to
• 1:28:25
  create this special magic mirror, Barry Snow White, and it
• 1:28:31
  ended up telling them what the hell happened in this world?
• 1:28:34
  What's the truth behind Aranya's mysterious death?
• 1:28:39
  Right. 200 years ago she died. How did she die?
• 1:28:41
  What was her back story? These like side quests were
• 1:28:48
  slowly killing me and they these small conversations that were
• 1:28:53
  really complicated and I was like, I don't think I'll need
• 1:28:55
  this information and I just dumped it from my mind.
• 1:28:58
  This was what created these shadow people of Oranya and
• 1:29:04
  Shenyu. Like that is how they were
• 1:29:07
  created. Was these conversations that
• 1:29:10
  happened early on in the show of like, I think we should send his
• 1:29:13
  shadow into Fenyon Valley and like, it'll help with protecting
• 1:29:16
  Meowyi Chasm and yadda yadda yadda.
• 1:29:19
  And I think we should all take Oblivion water.
• 1:29:22
  And I was like, that seems kind of like Deus Ex machina to me,
• 1:29:24
  but like, OK, whatever. And I remember rewinding that
• 1:29:27
  part and being like, what the hell are they talking about?
• 1:29:31
  And trying to figure it out. And I was like, I don't know,
• 1:29:33
  whatever, it'll come back later. And I'm telling you, episode 34
• 1:29:38
  through 49 or so being that all based on that quick and dirty
• 1:29:46
  interaction and phoned you also saying, why don't you send my
• 1:29:50
  shadow to like to keep him company or whatever.
• 1:29:53
  I was like, this is the worst writing.
• 1:29:56
  What some of the worst writing that I have seen in a long time.
• 1:30:00
  Also that whole like conversation of her volunteering
• 1:30:04
  Oh yeah, did not happen in the book.
• 1:30:07
  Like the the God of the underworld, the guy with like
• 1:30:10
  the swirly thing that was resurrecting the body, he came
• 1:30:15
  to her and was like, yo, this dude in this dream Shenye like
• 1:30:20
  doesn't have a past or future. Do you want to go investigate
• 1:30:23
  that for me by giving me your shadow?
• 1:30:26
  Like it was him in the book who instigated that?
• 1:30:30
  Like it was like, it was like what?
• 1:30:34
  See, but I would have preferred that.
• 1:30:36
  I think that would have sounded much better than her again,
• 1:30:41
  being the love sick puppy and like, Oh no, no, let my shot,
• 1:30:45
  you know, let my shadow go to his as well.
• 1:30:48
  And it's like, here we go again. I also didn't think it worked
• 1:30:54
  that D Jin was so jealous throughout these episodes of.
• 1:31:01
  His own shadow. His own shadow and her Master
• 1:31:08
  Sumo. Yeah, I think.
• 1:31:10
  Oh, yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just didn't buy it, didn't
• 1:31:13
  think it worked at all. If anything, it made him seem
• 1:31:17
  like a red flag. I was OK.
• 1:31:20
  I mean, I guess I was OK with that.
• 1:31:23
  I think they could have gone deeper into the fact that she
• 1:31:26
  felt such a connection to Oranya.
• 1:31:28
  Yeah. And was feeling like she was
• 1:31:34
  reliving her life in a very, you know, like her feelings are my
• 1:31:40
  feelings type of way. But they they just touch on that
• 1:31:44
  ever so slightly that like she just felt pity for Irania
• 1:31:50
  versus, you know, I'm losing my sense of self type of deal,
• 1:31:55
  right, Which I think would have been way more compelling.
• 1:31:57
  Right. Yeah.
• 1:31:59
  And they kind of touched on that, but yeah, they didn't go.
• 1:32:02
  They didn't go into depth. There was an interesting
• 1:32:05
  conversation that she has with Sumuya when she still doesn't
• 1:32:09
  have her memory. It's kind of coming back little
• 1:32:11
  by little, and she says that she recalls a man with silver hair
• 1:32:16
  and dressed in purple, but his face is obscured.
• 1:32:19
  She knows that this is her beloved, but that they've gone
• 1:32:23
  through rough patches. He's not there for her when she
• 1:32:27
  needs him the most, and she's not angry with him.
• 1:32:32
  She's just tired. He's not a bad person.
• 1:32:35
  They're just not meant to be together, this guy.
• 1:32:38
  Sumoyes tells her, well, you'll meet a better man in the future.
• 1:32:42
  And he asks her what kind of man she wants to meet.
• 1:32:45
  Like, what's your type, if she's thought about it?
• 1:32:49
  And she says, to be honest, I'm not that delicate.
• 1:32:52
  I'm not the type who can't survive if nobody comes to
• 1:32:55
  rescue me. But I hope that I can meet
• 1:32:57
  someone who will show up and save me whenever I'm in danger
• 1:33:00
  instead of leaving me behind, and who will comfort me when I'm
• 1:33:04
  in pain. And Dejan, obviously, is
• 1:33:07
  overhearing this conversation. He's eavesdropping.
• 1:33:10
  And I thought this was like, I was like, we this is a very
• 1:33:13
  meaty revelation that I thought they should have explored more
• 1:33:16
  was the fact that she feels left out.
• 1:33:20
  Right. She feels left behind,
• 1:33:22
  constantly ignored, and he's never there for her when she
• 1:33:27
  needs him. Right.
• 1:33:30
  They don't really like circle back on this necessarily.
• 1:33:35
  And I also don't think that it rings true that she's not that
• 1:33:40
  delicate. I'm like, no, I think she is
• 1:33:42
  pretty delicate. At the end of the day, I think
• 1:33:45
  she is a damsel in distress. They wrote her that way, right?
• 1:33:49
  And even if she is good at swordplay, she's she's not she's
• 1:33:54
  not as good as the male characters in the show.
• 1:33:58
  She never beats the male characters except for the one
• 1:34:00
  time for the ping pong tree fruit that she tries to get.
• 1:34:05
  But she only won that because Dee June.
• 1:34:07
  Did you help for like 3 months? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:34:11
  I think that it's sort of contradictory, like they give
• 1:34:16
  her this really great little speech here and I'm expecting
• 1:34:21
  them to deliver on some of these promises and explore this
• 1:34:24
  further, and they never do. I think that's the common thread
• 1:34:27
  through this entire drama is they introduce things or
• 1:34:30
  introduce these good ideas where you think it's going to be a
• 1:34:34
  plot point and like a way to for growth with these characters,
• 1:34:38
  and then it just never happens. Yeah.
• 1:34:43
  She always needs him to save her.
• 1:34:45
  He's always got to like, train her.
• 1:34:48
  And that was something that he kept saying was like, I need,
• 1:34:50
  I'm trying to make you stronger so that you don't need me all
• 1:34:54
  the time. And I'm like, well, she's always
• 1:34:57
  needs you. Like you're literally constantly
• 1:35:00
  saving her, constantly mending her body, constantly making her
• 1:35:05
  unconscious so that she rests her body and she's healing and
• 1:35:09
  stuff like that, and taking her out of Commission and leaving to
• 1:35:12
  go deal with whatever side quests.
• 1:35:15
  Right. And that's exactly what she's
• 1:35:17
  referencing here. Is like he's never there when I
• 1:35:19
  need him and when he's there like he ignores me or I'm left
• 1:35:23
  behind. Right.
• 1:35:25
  But see that's I think what makes me by the romance even
• 1:35:31
  less. I just don't think as characters
• 1:35:34
  they are well matched together. Like at this current point in
• 1:35:40
  time I am never one to really care, especially in Shiancha
• 1:35:45
  about like age gaps. But this is where it truly
• 1:35:48
  shows. Like this is one of those shows
• 1:35:50
  where it truly shows just how different it is.
• 1:35:54
  She is written as the damsel in distress, and I was really
• 1:35:59
  hoping that that would change and that they would become not
• 1:36:04
  necessarily equals because, again, he's so much older and
• 1:36:08
  knowledgeable and in terms of cultivation, there's no way she
• 1:36:13
  can match up to him right now. There just isn't, and there's no
• 1:36:17
  way around that. But I think there was a lot of
• 1:36:20
  conversations that needed to happen between them as
• 1:36:24
  characters for the relationship to develop.
• 1:36:28
  And I think, like you guys know, we recorded, you know, eternal
• 1:36:34
  the first one. 10 miles of Peach blossoms. 10 miles of Peach
• 1:36:38
  blossoms and you guys know that like my favorite part is when
• 1:36:43
  she gets back up there and she's like in her glory as her godly
• 1:36:49
  self and I'm like I. Love this.
• 1:36:51
  Because exactly she gets to have that, you know, power again and
• 1:36:58
  she gets to develop. And I that's my favorite part.
• 1:37:02
  And I think if you're going to give a speech like that to a
• 1:37:07
  character, you know, you need to make it match up to the
• 1:37:11
  character. And I just don't think Bai Feng
• 1:37:14
  Zhu is that kind of character. She is very much written, you
• 1:37:18
  know, to be constantly saved by the male lead or to make the
• 1:37:21
  male, you can make the male lead probably look good.
• 1:37:26
  Yeah, exactly. And I hate, I hate that is one
• 1:37:31
  of my biggest pet peeves is when female, you know, characters are
• 1:37:36
  written that way to enhance the male leads character.
• 1:37:40
  And I think, like I said, that's probably why I disliked this
• 1:37:44
  show so much, because it doesn't speak to the things that I
• 1:37:48
  personally like in Shianchos or in dramas in general.
• 1:37:53
  And I think there's just no way around that.
• 1:37:57
  To me, it just doesn't work because I yeah, I don't, I don't
• 1:38:02
  like how she's used to make him look good.
• 1:38:06
  This. Is like a Bechtel test nightmare
• 1:38:09
  of a show. And what I liked about her
• 1:38:12
  character in 10 Miles was that you had at least some reprieve
• 1:38:16
  from her constantly freaking rearranging her entire life for
• 1:38:21
  Donghua Dijin. She at least was with her aunt,
• 1:38:26
  having conversations with her aunt about other things, about
• 1:38:28
  Ching Chu, about her role that she was going to assume
• 1:38:31
  eventually be the queen of Ching Chu of the Fox clan, gathering
• 1:38:37
  more responsibility and just growing up and having these,
• 1:38:42
  like, better. It was a better female
• 1:38:44
  relationship. She has no female relationships,
• 1:38:47
  really, except for the one bestie, and they're constantly
• 1:38:52
  talking about guys. Yeah.
• 1:38:53
  Yeah, but even like, but even in this drama though, that didn't
• 1:38:58
  even like the idea of her rearranging her entire life to
• 1:39:03
  be with GD June and like being obsessed with him.
• 1:39:06
  That didn't even stick the landing by the end of this
• 1:39:09
  drama, which we can talk about later.
• 1:39:12
  Like I'm that was my problem is like, you have been obsessed
• 1:39:17
  with this dude for thousands of years and then we get an ending
• 1:39:22
  like this in the last three episodes.
• 1:39:24
  Like this is so out of character for you.
• 1:39:27
  Like just ups and leaves. Yes.
• 1:39:30
  Like I just, it just made no, that whole turn I was like, that
• 1:39:34
  made no sense for what you have built with her character through
• 1:39:38
  both of these dramas. Like she would never have done
• 1:39:41
  that. It was so not in her character
• 1:39:44
  to do so, but going quickly, going back, like I think the
• 1:39:48
  other thing that referencing what Liliana just said about
• 1:39:51
  like in 10 Miles of Peach Blossoms, we kind of saw that
• 1:39:55
  conversation, the conversation we wanted to happen in this
• 1:39:59
  drama between like Feng Zhu, like telling Van Gogh Gao's
• 1:40:03
  character like, hey. I am stronger now.
• 1:40:07
  I need to do better now. I need to start ruling whatever
• 1:40:10
  that did happen between Bai Chen and Yihua in internal like in in
• 1:40:17
  10 miles where she was like, I don't need you to help me.
• 1:40:22
  Like you, I'm my own person. And they had a really good.
• 1:40:26
  I know we went into extensive conversation about this in 10
• 1:40:29
  miles review. So like that was a good thing.
• 1:40:32
  And I think that's what needed to happen in this drama is like
• 1:40:35
  they needed to sit down and have that conversation both ways.
• 1:40:40
  I think, I think Dilraba's character needed to be like,
• 1:40:45
  dude, you're not there for me. Like this is what I need from
• 1:40:48
  you. Like we have a child and
• 1:40:51
  whatever, whatever. And then he needed to have some
• 1:40:54
  conversations with her, which never happened.
• 1:40:57
  I mean, I think that was the other.
• 1:40:59
  My big problem in this is like they never really had any like
• 1:41:03
  in depth conversations about their relationship.
• 1:41:07
  Never really, other than the superficial, like we're building
• 1:41:11
  a home together, whatever, which was cute and really nice, but
• 1:41:14
  like they never communicated on a deeper level.
• 1:41:19
  This is. Literally that couple that when
• 1:41:20
  they get married, you're like, I give them two years.
• 1:41:22
  Tops. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:41:26
  It's like, leave them as a couple.
• 1:41:28
  I kind of viewed this like, I did like them as a couple.
• 1:41:31
  I still like them as a couple. They're still my favorite
• 1:41:33
  couple. But like, I kind of viewed this
• 1:41:35
  drama as a fan service. Yes.
• 1:41:38
  It was based off of a novel apparently, but like as I would.
• 1:41:44
  Have never happened if it wasn't for 10 miles.
• 1:41:46
  Exactly. And Daraba and Van Gogh just
• 1:41:50
  killing it. In that show, like a lot of
• 1:41:52
  people loved their couple in 10 miles and like wanted their own
• 1:41:56
  spin off and they're like, oh OK, we can make money here.
• 1:41:59
  But yeah, this drama was essentially a fan service, even
• 1:42:03
  though it was a very poorly written fan service.
• 1:42:05
  Like in my mind it was just a fan service for this two people,
• 1:42:10
  which didn't work out very well, but anyway.
• 1:42:14
  Like episode 42, we're almost done.
• 1:42:16
  She finally gets absorbed back into her Snow White body.
• 1:42:21
  The Demon Queen, Demon Lord, Lady Whatever deduces that Bai
• 1:42:27
  Feng Jiu is basically a Horcrux if we're if we're talking Harry
• 1:42:32
  Potter terms and tries to take back whatever like chi or
• 1:42:38
  whatever is hidden inside. It's a fox bead.
• 1:42:42
  Yeah. It's kind of like, yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:44
  Fox bead where her soul is. Yeah, so Didjin and the banshee,
• 1:42:50
  like the projection of the demon Lord fight again?
• 1:42:55
  And I do like this scene because Dejin is severely injured at
• 1:42:59
  this point, and Fengju is back in her real body with the, you
• 1:43:03
  know, little phoenix feather on her forehead again.
• 1:43:07
  And she's remembered who she is. So now, like, there's no memory
• 1:43:11
  loss at all. But she's back to factory
• 1:43:13
  settings. She goes looking for him in The
• 1:43:16
  Cave, and he put, like, pushes her up against a rock and, like,
• 1:43:21
  makes out with her for a minute. And I'm like, oh, OK.
• 1:43:24
  Like, we're back here. It's only taking multiple
• 1:43:28
  episodes for us to be back here, but OK.
• 1:43:31
  It's a generally good reunion scene because she's nursing him
• 1:43:37
  back to health. Like, these are common tropes,
• 1:43:40
  right? Like this powerful figure is
• 1:43:43
  injured and the female lead has to mend his Boo boos.
• 1:43:48
  So that's what happens here. I just think the rest of this is
• 1:43:54
  mostly boring. It's so there's so much time
• 1:43:57
  spent apart. He's literally like I got to go
• 1:43:59
  do something and he's off screen for a long time doing whatever
• 1:44:04
  and we are left with his doppelganger Shenyu, who I don't
• 1:44:09
  care. I literally don't care about the
• 1:44:11
  shadow Shenyu who asked the same questions every episode.
• 1:44:16
  He's suspicious of Aranya. Is that the real Aranya that I
• 1:44:20
  have created from the dream world or is it somebody
• 1:44:23
  masquerading as Aranya? She's writing letters to try and
• 1:44:28
  match the original life. Like I'm like bored.
• 1:44:31
  I'm so bored out of my mind here.
• 1:44:35
  Episode 44. You mentioned this Liliana, the
• 1:44:39
  festival and they have the date and he uses like a little bit of
• 1:44:44
  and you posted about this as well, Caitlin, like this scene
• 1:44:48
  of the falling flower petals like all around.
• 1:44:52
  In the city. Beautiful scene.
• 1:44:54
  Beautiful scene. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:44:56
  And I felt like there was a little bit of an assassination
• 1:44:59
  of character though, where he is maybe not assassination of
• 1:45:04
  character, but because we watch 10 Miles, it does feel that way
• 1:45:07
  because he's so stoic all the time.
• 1:45:10
  In 10 Miles, he is more like a child as the show goes on when
• 1:45:16
  they are together, he's very seems to like regress into being
• 1:45:21
  a child with her as he hangs out with her at this date and he's
• 1:45:26
  like fascinated by sugar confections and eating up all
• 1:45:28
  the fox lollipops that she keeps making for him.
• 1:45:30
  And he gives her this flower crown, which is like an ancient
• 1:45:36
  custom, apparently, that old gods would make a flower crown
• 1:45:39
  for their beloved, all these things.
• 1:45:41
  I think that made sense though. I think that assassination part
• 1:45:45
  of his character made sense from because like due to what we
• 1:45:48
  found out in this drama, though, he didn't have a childhood.
• 1:45:52
  Like he was in battle at a very young age and he was fighting
• 1:45:56
  his entire childhood. So I think this kind of like
• 1:45:59
  made-up for that. So I was, I was OK with that.
• 1:46:03
  I wish they would have explored that more because that.
• 1:46:06
  I would have loved to see a flashback scene of him in his
• 1:46:09
  crime. Yeah, because I think, I think
• 1:46:13
  that's a really big point of why he's attracted to her, because
• 1:46:19
  she does have this very mischievous and carefree
• 1:46:22
  character. And I think he's attracted to
• 1:46:25
  that because he's never really experienced that, as, you know,
• 1:46:29
  in being a child himself. So I wish they would have gone
• 1:46:35
  further, you know, with that plot line.
• 1:46:39
  But that's the thing, again, it's like the build of
• 1:46:42
  characters and the development of characters just wasn't there.
• 1:46:46
  And I think, and I think personally also the and this
• 1:46:51
  might be a criticism on the actor himself.
• 1:46:54
  I'm not sure whether it's, you know, the actor or the writing,
• 1:46:58
  but we should have seen more subtle changes with him
• 1:47:01
  throughout the whole show so that when he does change into
• 1:47:06
  this other person, you know, it doesn't feel so maybe so abrupt
• 1:47:11
  and so out of nowhere in a sense because he's like very cold and
• 1:47:18
  then he's very childlike all of a sudden.
• 1:47:21
  I wish there would have been a bit more build up and like
• 1:47:26
  slowly changing throughout the show, if that you know?
• 1:47:29
  I can get behind that statement. I can get behind that.
• 1:47:34
  But he proposes to her in this episode and he says, like, when
• 1:47:38
  we get out of here, I'm going to marry you.
• 1:47:40
  And let you be my Empress. And I don't know if that was
• 1:47:43
  just a translation issue on my end, but I was like, let you.
• 1:47:47
  Oh, oh, thank you so much for like letting me be your Empress.
• 1:47:53
  Oh jeez, it's what an honour. So big kiss.
• 1:47:57
  And she's dazed and asks him if she's dreaming and if he'll
• 1:48:02
  forget when they leave this dream of Aranya, like,
• 1:48:05
  everything that happened and their whole relationship and
• 1:48:08
  that he proposed to her and all this stuff.
• 1:48:10
  And I thought that was like, a really sad little thing to say
• 1:48:14
  at that moment. But she was like, you're not
• 1:48:16
  gonna like, forget about this promise you made, right?
• 1:48:22
  I think she's so insecure about the relationship, right?
• 1:48:25
  He doesn't and he never does anything to like to secure her
• 1:48:30
  right like. Exactly.
• 1:48:31
  She's not like they're not completely locked in.
• 1:48:34
  Like there's normally at this point in a Shansha, you're at a
• 1:48:40
  point where these characters will die for each other, like
• 1:48:44
  they will take on everything and anything and you just believe
• 1:48:49
  that. Whereas these two like that they
• 1:48:52
  don't feel locked in. Quite so wishy washy and leaving
• 1:48:56
  her all the time that she's just like, you're not.
• 1:49:01
  This isn't a dream, right? Like I'm not just dreaming this.
• 1:49:04
  Up right now, yeah, that's. Sad.
• 1:49:06
  I think that's a little sad. Do you do you have thoughts?
• 1:49:09
  Katie, I don't agree. I don't agree with that
• 1:49:11
  statement. OK.
• 1:49:13
  I don't agree with the fact that like they weren't locked in at
• 1:49:17
  that moment. I agree that he was wishy washy
• 1:49:20
  but like I do not see what he could have done more at that
• 1:49:26
  point to tell her and show her that.
• 1:49:29
  Right, he kept telling her. Not showing her is what I'm
• 1:49:31
  saying. Yeah, but like, I don't know.
• 1:49:34
  I, I don't. And this was the problem I had
• 1:49:37
  at the end of The thing is like they went through like at this
• 1:49:41
  point it was 3 lifetimes and she still was the chosen one after
• 1:49:46
  three lifetimes even when they were doing this proposal thing
• 1:49:49
  in the dream. But he didn't remember the
• 1:49:51
  mortal realm. Right, but she did.
• 1:49:55
  I don't know what else he could have done to prove to her that
• 1:49:59
  she was going to be his one person.
• 1:50:02
  I get it. What else could he?
• 1:50:03
  And I think I'll, I'll answer that question.
• 1:50:05
  And it's because he kept hiding whatever the fuck he was doing
• 1:50:09
  all day long to her. He never let him let her in on
• 1:50:11
  his plans, never told her what the hell was going on at any
• 1:50:17
  point. Did he trust her with his inner
• 1:50:19
  workings at all? I thought, right, She was never
• 1:50:24
  in on any plans. Yeah, I I understand that, but
• 1:50:29
  what does that have to do with her being the one there?
• 1:50:31
  Was no mutual trust. There was no mutual trust there.
• 1:50:34
  In fact, she kept going with Irania's life under the charade
• 1:50:39
  of like, I'm going to continue doing, going through the motions
• 1:50:43
  based on his shadow Shenyu's advice of like, you need to
• 1:50:47
  this, the only way you're going to get out of this dream is if
• 1:50:50
  you, like, continue going about her life and making the same
• 1:50:53
  decisions that Irania did. And he already knows that's not
• 1:50:57
  how you're going to get out of the dream.
• 1:51:00
  And why wouldn't he take her to go see this magical mirror that
• 1:51:04
  he created that could tell this whole story?
• 1:51:08
  But also why didn't she tell him that she remembered everything?
• 1:51:12
  Like I think it's a it's a too because remember like when they
• 1:51:16
  were viewing the mirror at the same time she was telling Shenye
• 1:51:20
  what happened to Ironya like that was happening at the same
• 1:51:24
  time. So she remembered the Iranians
• 1:51:26
  entire life story and was having telling Shenye this is what
• 1:51:31
  happened to me on the battleground and how I ended up
• 1:51:34
  there because he wasn't there at the time and didn't know and
• 1:51:39
  while they were viewing the mirror.
• 1:51:41
  So like I feel like it's a two way St.
• 1:51:43
  I don't think it was anything on him.
• 1:51:45
  She also wasn't doing that same thing.
• 1:51:48
  So you're saying she wasn't being truthful because when she
• 1:51:51
  merged with the primordial spirit of Aranya that was in the
• 1:51:56
  lamp, which happened when he was away, like he was already away,
• 1:52:00
  he left her alone. So you're saying, oh, because
• 1:52:03
  she didn't seek him out wherever he was on his side quest that
• 1:52:07
  it's her fault and she didn't tell the truth at the time?
• 1:52:11
  No, I'm not saying it's her fault either.
• 1:52:13
  I'm saying both. I'm saying both of them didn't.
• 1:52:17
  She didn't actively. Keep anything from him that
• 1:52:20
  wasn't an active. Like I'm going to lie to him and
• 1:52:23
  not tell him that I suddenly know everything about Aranya's
• 1:52:27
  life. Right.
• 1:52:30
  He definitely did not say what was happening and keep her up to
• 1:52:35
  date on everything that he was doing and his theories about how
• 1:52:40
  to get out of the dream and what was wrong with the dream world.
• 1:52:46
  All these things like there was not like none of it was an open
• 1:52:51
  flow of communication and he knew a lot more than she did.
• 1:52:56
  I think it's just a lack of communication between the
• 1:52:59
  characters and it like it means that they're not true partners
• 1:53:07
  in the sense of the word that they're working.
• 1:53:10
  It feels to me a lot they're not working.
• 1:53:12
  Together, yeah. Yeah, they're working on the
• 1:53:14
  same thing, that apart instead of like putting their heads
• 1:53:19
  together and working together. So I can, I can see where
• 1:53:24
  Caitlyn's coming from when she should have communicated as
• 1:53:27
  well. But it's like he didn't
• 1:53:29
  communicate. It's just a lack of
• 1:53:31
  communication on both sides at that point and I think.
• 1:53:37
  She never is like I'm going to leave you and go do my thing.
• 1:53:40
  He's always like, I'm going to do you.
• 1:53:42
  And do my thing and that's why she.
• 1:53:44
  Did that though, like it wasn't. Oh, during the noble idiocy of
• 1:53:49
  the last few episodes, yeah. That was just.
• 1:53:52
  Ridiculous that was, but I think also at that point though he
• 1:53:55
  thought she didn't remember. So I think the whole point of
• 1:53:59
  him not telling her was she was trying.
• 1:54:01
  He was trying to make her heal of like her.
• 1:54:04
  When he left, when he left her, she didn't remember.
• 1:54:08
  Right. So he didn't know she it was.
• 1:54:10
  During his absence, which he initiated.
• 1:54:13
  Yeah, that this lamp that his shade Shenyu had broke and all
• 1:54:19
  of those little pieces fluttered into her brain and she
• 1:54:23
  remembered Iranians life or realized Iranians life.
• 1:54:27
  So again, I don't blame her for suddenly knowing when he
• 1:54:32
  initiated their their separation.
• 1:54:34
  Like, you know what I'm saying? Like.
• 1:54:36
  Well, because he's not around for her to be able to tell him.
• 1:54:40
  I think that's where Dress is coming from.
• 1:54:42
  It's the fact that he left her, she found out and he's not
• 1:54:47
  around for her to be able to tell him what's happening.
• 1:54:51
  She's there with the shade Shenyu, and he's been nagging
• 1:54:56
  her. Who are you?
• 1:54:58
  Are you real? Yadda yadda, having tantrums and
• 1:55:01
  like, emotional fits. And she finally tells him the
• 1:55:05
  truth because he's been wanting it all of this time.
• 1:55:09
  I mean, that's what we mean by like, they don't have a solid
• 1:55:13
  foundation for trust. And that's why she's like, is
• 1:55:18
  this a dream? Will you keep your promise?
• 1:55:22
  I think he could have gone, that's fine, but he should have
• 1:55:26
  just communic like told her, oh, I'm off to do this thing or
• 1:55:31
  whatever, you know, I don't know how long it's going to take me,
• 1:55:34
  but like it doesn't need to be much, but just bring her into
• 1:55:40
  your plan a little bit. There's.
• 1:55:42
  Also that to. Say that she has no interest
• 1:55:47
  either in like joining up, like he would be like, OK, I'm going
• 1:55:51
  back to whatever whatever palace.
• 1:55:53
  So and so needs my help to finish building this magical
• 1:55:57
  instrument mirror thing. And she wasn't like, oh, I'll
• 1:56:01
  come with you. And she wasn't like, oh, let's
• 1:56:05
  go together. Like, why don't why don't we
• 1:56:07
  just do this? She's like, OK.
• 1:56:09
  Right, see you later. OK, like so I can't.
• 1:56:13
  It's weird that like, she wants to be with him all the time but
• 1:56:18
  doesn't initiate and he wants to be with her all the time,
• 1:56:21
  especially when he's really hot for her.
• 1:56:24
  But like doesn't care to really share in these plans, either one
• 1:56:31
  of them. It's weird.
• 1:56:33
  So anyway, we're back to episode 46.
• 1:56:37
  They have like a bath together. Do you remember how like sexy
• 1:56:40
  this was? And then?
• 1:56:41
  I really like that scene actually.
• 1:56:43
  This was they have sex at the end of this episode.
• 1:56:46
  Yes. There you go.
• 1:56:48
  They did. But that's because he, I forget,
• 1:56:51
  like he was, he got jealous and upset and just walks off and was
• 1:56:58
  sulking off in a jealous daze, walking in the rain and shit.
• 1:57:02
  Like it was a whole music video basically.
• 1:57:05
  And then he comes back and that's when that's when she's
• 1:57:08
  like, yeah, I was like, OK, I thought you were like hundreds
• 1:57:12
  of thousands of years old. And he's walking around like a
• 1:57:16
  teenager upset because he saw something.
• 1:57:19
  And he's not like, I don't know. No, he's not giving her the
• 1:57:22
  benefit of the doubt either. Like he's just taking it at face
• 1:57:26
  value. And Oh my God, it's so annoying.
• 1:57:29
  But anyway, this leads into he comes back, he's all wet and
• 1:57:32
  she's like, you need to take a hot bath right now.
• 1:57:35
  And it leads into she knows he's jealous and whatever he's like
• 1:57:42
  passively jealous, not aggressively jealous.
• 1:57:46
  Even she says like you should get over this by now.
• 1:57:51
  I think she tells him that. Yeah.
• 1:57:53
  But anyway, it leads into like they're kissing in the bed and
• 1:57:56
  then he they have sex. We're in the final like 10
• 1:58:02
  episodes of the show. Episode 49 Exposition dump after
• 1:58:06
  exposition dump after exposition dump.
• 1:58:11
  Shenyu the doppelganger created the dream because he had the
• 1:58:15
  immortal power from Dejun. I mean, whatever.
• 1:58:20
  So the that's when you find out that they're both shadows.
• 1:58:26
  It's not really that surprising, but also like really annoying.
• 1:58:31
  And the folks who had come up with the plan took oblivion
• 1:58:35
  water so they would never have figured it out either.
• 1:58:38
  It was so annoying. So anyway, and you I I've liked.
• 1:58:46
  I thought it was funny. This is sad, but or not sad, but
• 1:58:51
  it's a little bit of off kilter thing to say.
• 1:58:53
  But the doppelganger, they tell him he's a he's a shadow of DJ
• 1:58:59
  and he has like this psychotic break and just walks into the
• 1:59:05
  water and commits suicide. I started laughing.
• 1:59:08
  Did you guys start laughing? Yeah.
• 1:59:11
  I was like, what else? What else?
• 1:59:13
  Like they finally, they comically fast, they get out of
• 1:59:18
  the dream that Dejan's like the dream is collapsing.
• 1:59:20
  We got to go and they just walk out.
• 1:59:22
  It's so easy to get out of the dream now.
• 1:59:26
  And that's what's frustrating is that they've been in there for
• 1:59:29
  ages trying to figure out how to get out.
• 1:59:32
  And then like 2 seconds they're out.
• 1:59:34
  And I was like, really, really, this is all you could come up
• 1:59:38
  with? Oh my.
• 1:59:40
  God, anyway, they I just want to Fast forward to the end.
• 1:59:47
  Well, I'm I'm. Before we Fast forward to the
• 1:59:50
  end, one of my favorite scenes though was when.
• 1:59:54
  Was it the sword? Yeah, it was the fight, the
• 1:59:56
  sword fight, OK, Yeah. In Qingxu they had like this
• 2:00:01
  ritual to initiate a new monarch I think.
• 2:00:04
  Yeah, yeah. And she had to create a sword
• 2:00:08
  and create a sword box again. I feel like I'm getting duped
• 2:00:12
  here with time wasted. I mean we still have 6 episodes
• 2:00:19
  to fill jacks. Exactly.
• 2:00:21
  Exactly. They've got to come out of
• 2:00:24
  somewhere. But this was last night, right?
• 2:00:27
  Like I'm talking about this is my like 1:00 AM and she's like
• 2:00:30
  carving a box of wood to hold a sword.
• 2:00:34
  And I'm like, are we, is this necessary?
• 2:00:37
  Like. It was like it was being punk.
• 2:00:41
  No, it was them being together before she pulled the bullshit
• 2:00:44
  she did in the last three episodes.
• 2:00:47
  It was to give them happy time for two episodes.
• 2:00:50
  Do you know? Oh, it's like the final.
• 2:00:51
  Date. Yes, exactly.
• 2:00:53
  I'm gonna break up. Yeah, exactly.
• 2:00:55
  It was the final date, so. Do you know going into the
• 2:01:01
  towards the ending, do you know what I'm more mad about?
• 2:01:06
  I'm mad about a lot of things, but one of the things that I'm
• 2:01:10
  most mad about is the fact that she has this freaking beautiful
• 2:01:15
  blue gown all invited. It is stunning.
• 2:01:19
  Wedding dress she. Never gets to wear it.
• 2:01:21
  She never gets to wear it and I'm like, are you kidding me?
• 2:01:26
  The best costume of the whole drama and you never put that on
• 2:01:32
  Dilraba. Are are you kidding me?
• 2:01:35
  I I. Wears it.
• 2:01:37
  It's just not for the She's just sitting down.
• 2:01:39
  Sitting at it, yeah. She's never for the actual
• 2:01:42
  ceremony. I want to see it in all of its
• 2:01:45
  glory. And it's like the best costume
• 2:01:48
  guys, come on. Yeah.
• 2:01:50
  Yeah, anyway, so my favorite scene of this 2-3 episodes of
• 2:01:54
  their last date is the whole fight scene and then with the
• 2:01:58
  demon in the in the ceremony. And then, yeah.
• 2:02:02
  And then he walks up. The way that he walked up with
• 2:02:04
  the sword, I was like, what is this weird like nonchalant
• 2:02:07
  swagger? The fact that he was like the
• 2:02:11
  third Prince was like, well, he you can be challenged by her
• 2:02:14
  Prince consort and everyone's like, she's married.
• 2:02:17
  Who's her Prince consort? And they're like camera like
• 2:02:20
  swings. Over to where dishes.
• 2:02:22
  He's gone. He's already gone and they pan
• 2:02:26
  back and he's walking up already with sword in hand.
• 2:02:30
  And I was like, oh, that's actually really funny.
• 2:02:32
  Like the comedic timing of that, that set of shots, I was like,
• 2:02:37
  oh, that's really funny. That was good.
• 2:02:40
  Yeah. He's just like so, and he beats
• 2:02:42
  him really fast. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's
• 2:02:44
  so. Happy, So happy.
• 2:02:47
  What a great wing man, that third Prince.
• 2:02:49
  Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, cuz he spilled the
• 2:02:53
  beans right there. He was like, oh, well, her
• 2:02:55
  husband can challenge you, so hang tight.
• 2:02:58
  And everyone's like, husband. I've.
• 2:03:00
  No, I won't. She was married, right?
• 2:03:03
  Yeah. Yeah, that's good.
• 2:03:06
  That was a good scene. Is a good scene, but then he
• 2:03:10
  doesn't show up for the wedding. Yeah, the second female lead
• 2:03:13
  kicks up a little fuss at the end of the show.
• 2:03:16
  The audacity of that woman being like don't marry her.
• 2:03:20
  I'm like woman like what? What is he gonna do at this
• 2:03:25
  point like? And she had the opportunity to
• 2:03:28
  marry. Did you?
• 2:03:29
  Exactly. Exactly.
• 2:03:31
  And and she didn't do. It too.
• 2:03:34
  Didn't. Want.
• 2:03:34
  To Yeah, I think and then all because of she was in the mortal
• 2:03:39
  realm and caught feelings for him in the mortal realm she ends
• 2:03:42
  up being this poorly written second female lead problem in
• 2:03:47
  the third quarter of this drama like because they.
• 2:03:50
  Sideline her. Sideline her so much and then
• 2:03:53
  they bring her back for what I don't.
• 2:03:56
  Yeah. It was like, no, like she was
• 2:03:59
  not believable when she was like, you have to divorce her
• 2:04:02
  for me. I'm like, why?
• 2:04:05
  Like he's not going to do that. Like there's no reason for him
• 2:04:08
  to do that. Like what are you threatening
• 2:04:11
  him with? Like she wouldn't even
• 2:04:12
  threatening him as like, like with anything.
• 2:04:16
  Like it wasn't like I have a button that can kill her right
• 2:04:19
  away or something. I don't know.
• 2:04:20
  It was just weird. It was very weird.
• 2:04:23
  I would have preferred that she aligned herself with the big
• 2:04:25
  bad. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:04:28
  And then? No, never happens.
• 2:04:30
  No. It's just a random anyway so but
• 2:04:34
  he takes her, her curse, her blood illness or whatever upon
• 2:04:39
  himself to get rid of it for her.
• 2:04:42
  And I thought why? Well, they explained that they
• 2:04:46
  said it was the fastest way to do it, so he could like get it
• 2:04:49
  over with and go back to her. Oh, no, no, no, I understand the
• 2:04:53
  explanation. I'm saying why in the plot would
• 2:04:55
  you would you have him do that? Like you're just hastening his
• 2:04:59
  death. Right.
• 2:05:01
  Yeah. And The thing is, there's not
• 2:05:03
  even like a huge connection between these two characters for
• 2:05:07
  him to be willing to do that for what?
• 2:05:09
  Like, why is he willing to do that for her?
• 2:05:12
  I you know. Why would he die for her?
• 2:05:16
  Yeah. That's how I exactly Oh my God.
• 2:05:20
  So. But then they lay so a whole
• 2:05:23
  noble idiocy thing because Fung Ju thinks that he left her at
• 2:05:29
  the altar for the second female lead and is living with her in
• 2:05:33
  the demon realm. I was like, where are you
• 2:05:35
  getting this sis? I mean, the fact that she even
• 2:05:39
  went to the demon world was in the same realm as him and didn't
• 2:05:45
  even have a face to face conference.
• 2:05:47
  I was so angry. I was like, girl, you demanded
• 2:05:51
  to go down there and even said I need to hear that from him for
• 2:05:54
  myself. And then you never had that
• 2:05:57
  conversation. Like I didn't understand that I
• 2:06:01
  didn't I did not understand why that even happened at all.
• 2:06:05
  And then she just ups and goes to the mortal realm and like
• 2:06:10
  refuses. Like that whole part of that
• 2:06:14
  character, I was like, this is not her character.
• 2:06:18
  Like she was so obsessed with this dude and then refuses to
• 2:06:23
  have a conversation with him, even though she's in literally
• 2:06:27
  practically in the same room with him.
• 2:06:31
  And like just doesn't I, I did not understand that.
• 2:06:34
  And I that pissed me off because I was like, for 54 episodes,
• 2:06:39
  this is you. And then for the last two, this
• 2:06:41
  is like, this made no sense, made no sense whatsoever at all.
• 2:06:46
  And also it's like, and it's also it's like the all these
• 2:06:50
  other side characters again, the same story that we had like for
• 2:06:54
  the previous three lifetimes. All the other side characters
• 2:06:58
  knew what was going on. So why the hell did no one clue
• 2:07:02
  her in until until the servant, thank God, was like, you're a
• 2:07:08
  stupid woman. This is what he's doing.
• 2:07:10
  Like I was like, why didn't you tell her this like 10 episodes
• 2:07:13
  that? Scene truly I, I was like ready
• 2:07:17
  to burn down. It's like my God I I was upset
• 2:07:22
  that they guilt tripped her and made his entire downfall and his
• 2:07:29
  impending death her fault. Like he saved you, he went into
• 2:07:33
  the dream and dispersed 90% of his power and XYZ and the other
• 2:07:38
  and basically you denied him and you broke up with him when he
• 2:07:43
  did all this for you and he never got with that demon girl
• 2:07:48
  or any. You had this all wrong and like
• 2:07:50
  they guilt tripped her mad and made it her fault that he was so
• 2:07:55
  weak and couldn't defend himself against this big bad and was
• 2:08:02
  basically going to die. I was, Oh my God.
• 2:08:06
  Yeah, I didn't. I didn't like that.
• 2:08:09
  But also it just shows how we their relationship was that it
• 2:08:15
  could break so easily because it's like for them to not even
• 2:08:19
  be willing, well on her part, for her to not even be willing
• 2:08:23
  to hear him out again, these are all powerful beings.
• 2:08:27
  It takes 2 seconds to write a little paper and send it off
• 2:08:32
  like it. It makes no sense for it to
• 2:08:35
  happen. It's such an unavoidable thing.
• 2:08:39
  It's not true to the characters. It's not needed there.
• 2:08:44
  And it's literally like the writers thought, oh shit, we
• 2:08:49
  have three more episodes we need to fill however many.
• 2:08:53
  Let's throw everything we can at it to put it out.
• 2:08:57
  And it's like, do you know what? You should have just defeated it
• 2:09:00
  and given fan service and them together for the rest of the
• 2:09:03
  episodes. I would have been happy with
• 2:09:05
  that. I would have honestly at that
• 2:09:08
  point been happier with that because it makes no sense to her
• 2:09:12
  character and it's like there's I don't even know anymore.
• 2:09:17
  Well, I think, I mean, I think the opposite though.
• 2:09:19
  I think they rushed it. I don't think they were padding
• 2:09:23
  the end of the episodes. I think they were like oh shit
• 2:09:27
  we still have this demon girl to Vanquish and we have three
• 2:09:32
  episodes left because we spent too much goddamn time on the
• 2:09:36
  front end with the three lives. That's a my interpretation.
• 2:09:40
  Like the pacing was not the padding, it was the fact they
• 2:09:43
  had too much story and saved it all to the end.
• 2:09:47
  No, I think what I meant was that they padded it out by
• 2:09:50
  sending Feng Zhou away from him. Not necessarily, you know, by
• 2:09:55
  her breaking up and then going away.
• 2:09:59
  No, like I I totally agree with the fact that like the whole
• 2:10:03
  demon locked up. That was rushed because that
• 2:10:06
  should have been better dispersed throughout the show.
• 2:10:09
  And then, you know, coming together at the end.
• 2:10:13
  That was rushed because that's and also to me, just to speak
• 2:10:18
  since we're already on the topic, I don't think she was a
• 2:10:22
  big scary person evil at all. She was like just fodder for
• 2:10:29
  the, you know, for the the cast, just for him to have somebody to
• 2:10:34
  fight against because she's not compelling.
• 2:10:37
  You don't know any of her story. You don't know anything behind
• 2:10:41
  that cat. She's literally just there for
• 2:10:43
  him to go and fight and for him to have a reason, you know, to
• 2:10:47
  fight. And I wish they would have spent
• 2:10:50
  more time on, you know, her, given us some character
• 2:10:55
  background to make us believe she's this all big, powerful,
• 2:11:00
  you know, Yeah. I would have preferred if she
• 2:11:03
  was the second female lead. Yeah, yeah, there's.
• 2:11:05
  A giant back. That would have worked better,
• 2:11:07
  yeah. And I also like she just was not
• 2:11:09
  formidable at any point in the show.
• 2:11:12
  Was I thinking that she could win, That she was?
• 2:11:15
  The other thing that didn't make sense too is like going on what
• 2:11:20
  Liliana said. It was like, it was too goddamn
• 2:11:22
  easy to like, take her down. Yeah, he was like the other
• 2:11:27
  thing that like really was like, okay, the fact that like offend
• 2:11:32
  you was like, yeah, my blood can like exercise and you just.
• 2:11:35
  And I'm like, didn't like, shouldn't Did you know this?
• 2:11:39
  Like do you find Deus Ex machina?
• 2:11:42
  I know, do you find? Deus Ex.
• 2:11:44
  Machina, I was just like, really?
• 2:11:47
  Yeah. Yeah, I despair.
• 2:11:49
  I truly despair. I I, I honestly do.
• 2:11:53
  It was horrendous. It was so lazy.
• 2:11:56
  It was lazy. It was thrown together.
• 2:11:59
  Yeah, yeah. This back end of the show to me
• 2:12:04
  is the worst part of the show in terms of writing.
• 2:12:08
  It is God awful because it's just so poorly written.
• 2:12:15
  It's rushed. It's because you've had this
• 2:12:18
  like inconsistent, inconsistent pacing throughout the drama in
• 2:12:22
  general. And then all of a sudden it's
• 2:12:24
  like bam, bam, bam, bam. Everything's happening.
• 2:12:26
  And not everything is necessary, you know, to be happening at
• 2:12:31
  that point. And then everything is so easy,
• 2:12:35
  like I need a little bit more suffering.
• 2:12:39
  I need a little bit more, you know, just a little bit more.
• 2:12:44
  Yeah, yes. Well, the other thing.
• 2:12:47
  Yeah. The other just steaks, Yeah.
• 2:12:49
  There's no steaks, Yeah. The other thing that like drove
• 2:12:52
  me nuts too is like not only did she like kind of just like
• 2:12:56
  refuse to talk to him and like went off to the mortal.
• 2:12:59
  Well you freaking hid his kid. You had a whole ass child and
• 2:13:04
  like never told him never, like never did anything, never even
• 2:13:11
  had him by your side. Like carted him off to a
• 2:13:13
  completely different part of the palace and like never saw him
• 2:13:16
  again until the very end. I was just like how, how, how
• 2:13:23
  and how does nobody else know you had this kid?
• 2:13:25
  Like, obviously you went to the mortal world to like, give birth
• 2:13:28
  to him, whatever. But I'm just like, dude.
• 2:13:31
  And then he just like waltzes up and he's like, hey mom.
• 2:13:33
  And he's like. Who the hell are you?
• 2:13:34
  Who are you and your? Dad, I'm like, like what?
• 2:13:39
  I was, I've been, I was not dying of laughter.
• 2:13:43
  I know it was terrible. Oh my God.
• 2:13:47
  And then he Pats his head. I do his dad and I'm like.
• 2:13:52
  Yeah. Trauma.
• 2:13:53
  Trauma for the rest of my life, yeah.
• 2:13:55
  Exactly. It's like, it's terribly.
• 2:13:57
  Written and again, I'm just like it's.
• 2:13:59
  Just been shoved. In there exactly.
• 2:14:01
  It's like to me it was like, OK, they have to give them a happy
• 2:14:05
  ending. Let's give them a kit that
• 2:14:07
  that's how I interpreted that ending was like they need a
• 2:14:10
  happy ending here. They are one big happy family
• 2:14:13
  and I'm like dude you gave birth to them like 3000 years ago and
• 2:14:17
  he didn't know he was a dad until 2 seconds ago.
• 2:14:20
  Like I was just like what? I don't know what to say about
• 2:14:26
  this slap together with, yeah, Elmer's glue type ending that
• 2:14:32
  they gave us, but all right, fine.
• 2:14:36
  I'm ready to forget this. Show me.
• 2:14:39
  Too. I'm done.
• 2:14:40
  And just live with 10 miles of Peach blossoms.
• 2:14:43
  I do not care that this cleaves so closely to the source
• 2:14:46
  material. Right.
• 2:14:48
  I don't give a shit, it's a badly written show.
• 2:14:49
  It is, yeah. It's a badly written show,
• 2:14:52
  Absolutely. Yeah.
• 2:14:54
  I'm sorry if this was your first C drama.
• 2:14:57
  Yeah. Maybe we should have put a
• 2:14:59
  warning at the beginning. If you like this show, you may
• 2:15:02
  not like this. I'm sorry, I'm sorry if you like
• 2:15:06
  this show. Three out of three of us did not
• 2:15:09
  like this show, and we've watched plenty of shanches.
• 2:15:14
  We've watched plenty of shit shanches.
• 2:15:18
  This wasn't it. This was not it.
• 2:15:19
  I do not recommend this show. I will I don't recommend this
• 2:15:23
  show especially if you are a fan of this couple.
• 2:15:27
  Like that's what made me mad about it.
• 2:15:29
  I was so excited to watch this because I loved this couple so
• 2:15:33
  much and it just it does this couple no justice.
• 2:15:38
  Like, this is not a good drama to watch if you're a fan of this
• 2:15:42
  couple like it. And especially if you're a fan
• 2:15:45
  of 10 Miles, like if you're trying to watch Time Miles to
• 2:15:49
  like revisit the world and revisit the people from that
• 2:15:52
  show, you're not going to get it in this show.
• 2:15:55
  The thing is as well, like you guys know that I enjoyed 10
• 2:16:00
  miles of Peach blossoms, but I wasn't like as in love as every,
• 2:16:04
  you know, as you guys or as everybody else, but I I enjoyed
• 2:16:07
  it. I honestly could say I enjoyed
• 2:16:10
  10 miles of Peach blossoms, whereas this one, I feel like I
• 2:16:14
  wasted my time. I want my hours back back please
• 2:16:18
  and thank you. And like I said this when we
• 2:16:20
  were talking on Instagram, like if I hadn't said I would record
• 2:16:25
  this, I would have dropped a show.
• 2:16:27
  Like I would have not. Finished 100 percent 100%.
• 2:16:29
  This would have been a drop within the 1st 10 episodes.
• 2:16:32
  Yeah, I would have made it. Yeah, I would have made it 10
• 2:16:35
  episodes because that's usually what I give dramas that are this
• 2:16:38
  long. I give them 10 episodes, maybe
• 2:16:40
  12 at a push. But I would have been like, I'm
• 2:16:43
  out. Especially like with the
• 2:16:44
  ruthless era that I'm in. I would have been like, done.
• 2:16:48
  I'm I'm out. I'm out.
• 2:16:50
  I probably would have finished this just because I am a fan of
• 2:16:53
  the couple, but it just I I love your guys's reaction of like you
• 2:16:58
  are 10 episodes till the way the end.
• 2:16:59
  What the hell? I did binge this very hard.
• 2:17:04
  I probably I. Was impressed.
• 2:17:07
  You binged it quicker than I did.
• 2:17:09
  I think my pace was 5 episodes a day.
• 2:17:12
  Mine was six to seven a day, I think.
• 2:17:17
  I was only yeah, I was watching an episode 2 episodes a day for
• 2:17:23
  the longest time and I was not watching it on one speed.
• 2:17:27
  I will gladly say that some episodes it was cracking up at
• 2:17:31
  1.75 and I was so tempted to put it on a true speed.
• 2:17:37
  Like I, I was watching the, I was cranking these out in 20
• 2:17:40
  minutes at one point, like an episode because I was just so
• 2:17:45
  done with it. Yeah.
• 2:17:46
  The only time that I increased the speed was to get through the
• 2:17:50
  last nine episodes, which was the final binge push, right?
• 2:17:55
  I had to do the last night episodes.
• 2:17:56
  Last night stayed up till 3:30 and I pushed it to 1.5 speed
• 2:18:01
  which put the episodes out about 30 minutes a piece.
• 2:18:07
  But to me, see, it's a telltale sign that I'm not enjoying
• 2:18:13
  something and I'm just watching it for watching.
• 2:18:17
  If my speed goes, you know, my speed, you know, the speed that
• 2:18:21
  I'm watching goes, goes up. It is a telltale sign that I'm
• 2:18:25
  like I I could take it or leave it.
• 2:18:29
  Well, we talked for a really long time about this show and I
• 2:18:34
  think that it's our It's dead. It's dead.
• 2:18:38
  We don't have to stomp on it anymore.
• 2:18:40
  I don't want to believer the point that we really did not
• 2:18:44
  enjoy this show. And sorry again, maybe 20 me
• 2:18:49
  liking 20% of the show is maybe even giving it too much credit.
• 2:18:54
  Maybe I liked even less than 20% of the show, but damn.
• 2:18:59
  Oh, we're at the very end of this boat.
• 2:19:01
  Like how? How would you rate their show
• 2:19:03
  out of five S 2 bottles? We'll, we'll end with this.
• 2:19:07
  Or how many oblivion teas would you cups of Oblivion water?
• 2:19:14
  I would say, I mean, for me, I think I'm gonna rank this a
• 2:19:17
  little higher just 'cause I do love the couple so much.
• 2:19:20
  And like, when we did get them together, I loved that it was
• 2:19:24
  better. Yeah.
• 2:19:27
  So I would probably put it at the middle, like 2.53, like dead
• 2:19:31
  center. Like I, I don't think it was a
• 2:19:34
  great drama, but I've also seen worse.
• 2:19:37
  But I think if you're a fan of this couple and you just want to
• 2:19:40
  do a speed run of all of their scenes, you're not missing much.
• 2:19:45
  So I think I think I'm just going to rank this higher
• 2:19:48
  because I love this couple so much.
• 2:19:49
  But it definitely, if you're going to go into this thinking
• 2:19:53
  is I'm going to love this drama and get what I all like 1000%
• 2:19:59
  what I want from this drama because I love this couple.
• 2:20:02
  You're not but I I'd say it's dead setter like 2.53 for me.
• 2:20:07
  Yeah, Liliana, Oblivion Water. How many?
• 2:20:11
  I think like I'd be like 1.52 at a push and that is for like the
• 2:20:21
  scenes that I did enjoy, which were few and far between.
• 2:20:26
  I don't think it's the worst thing I've ever watched, but I'm
• 2:20:31
  like, once we finish this recording, I'm going to throw it
• 2:20:34
  out of my mind and never think about it again.
• 2:20:37
  Either same same. Me and Lillian are on the same
• 2:20:39
  page. I'm going to give it a 1.51.5
• 2:20:42
  out of five, which is very low. That's highly.
• 2:20:47
  Upsetting. It's really low.
• 2:20:49
  It's right, yeah. I I don't rate that low.
• 2:20:54
  Rarely I. Because I hardly watch a show
• 2:20:57
  all the way to the end that is a.
• 2:20:59
  One point. Five show, right?
• 2:21:01
  Yeah, right. I drop it sooner than I would
• 2:21:04
  finish it and like. Yeah, yeah, true.
• 2:21:07
  You know what I'm saying? So anyway, all right, I think we
• 2:21:11
  are done for. Just in case people don't follow
• 2:21:15
  you guys on the socials or haven't listened to Drama trio
• 2:21:18
  on the T and Soju podcast. Where can we find you guys
• 2:21:22
  online? So for me it's T and Soju pod,
• 2:21:26
  all one word, and that is both on Instagram and TikTok and it's
• 2:21:31
  T and Soju podcast, you know, on Spotify and Apple and all of
• 2:21:37
  those listening platforms. For me, mine is No Sleep, the
• 2:21:43
  number 4 dramas. You have a podcast, I have a
• 2:21:46
  blog. You can that's basically all of
• 2:21:49
  my social handles on Instagram and TikTok mostly.
• 2:21:52
  All right, Drama Trio is out. That's been our show.
• 2:21:56
  I'm Jessica and this has been the Tiba K Rambles podcast.