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Freddie Gibbs Talks Unapologetic Persona, Rap Beefs, Major Label Records + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wait that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club Morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is DJ Envy, Angela Yee, Charlemagne the guy. We
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Speaker 1: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guests in
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Speaker 1: the building. I'm not used to seeing them like this season.
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Speaker 1: He got record labeled people with them like major. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: gotta level up man. Welcome Rob. How are you feeling
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Speaker 1: feeling great? Feeling real good? So separately out right now? Yes, sir,
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Speaker 1: this is your first first solo major label deal. That's it. Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's my first major album and I put out a
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Speaker 1: period well made. You decided to do that? Now? Um lambo?
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Speaker 1: My manager really, to be honest, supposed to happen before. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: my partner Northway, you know what I'm saying, Like he's
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Speaker 1: been trying to like sign me to a major for
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Speaker 1: a long time, man, So you know it just worked
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Speaker 1: out perfect this time that it's just a good business move.
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Speaker 1: What can they do for you that you weren't already
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Speaker 1: doing for yourself? Joyman nominated for Grammys. I mean it looked,
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Speaker 1: it looked good, you know what I'm saying, Like you
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Speaker 1: see it, you know you noticed the change when I
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Speaker 1: walked in them so I mean, you know, it's definitely
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Speaker 1: extras on that thing we're doing right now, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, you know, we gotta I gotta
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Speaker 1: record added that radio. I ain't never been that. I
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Speaker 1: ain't never had none of that. Um you know, top
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Speaker 1: twenty Billboard release, I ain't never had that. So you know,
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Speaker 1: it's definitely change has been made. And sometimes it's nice
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Speaker 1: not to have to do everything yourself that too, and
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Speaker 1: pay for everything yourself that too. It's always good to
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Speaker 1: eat on their dollars. Absolutely has a lot going on.
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Speaker 1: Freddy gets by the way. I think the album is
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Speaker 1: pretty amazing. Thank you. I appreciate that your music is
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Speaker 1: never in a question, like people know you make good music,
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Speaker 1: yeahs anything else that comes with it, it's probably what
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Speaker 1: they okay, questions, question they have questions about that comes
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Speaker 1: with being like very honest. You know a lot of
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Speaker 1: times people sensed themselves about things that they might say
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Speaker 1: and you haven't really. I mean, you know, I'm from
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Speaker 1: a small town man, you know what I mean. So
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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it ain't hard to beef with me,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I feel like, you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of people take a to you know, stuff
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Speaker 1: I say and things I do, but you know, you
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Speaker 1: gotta do something about it. You gotta deal with me.
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Speaker 1: Y'all gonna feel met. They killed me, So it is
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Speaker 1: what it is. I ain't tripping. So why is the
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Speaker 1: jokes because people, you know, I'm a comedian man, jokes
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Speaker 1: ain't nothing like that. It's the violence. The jokes ain't nothing.
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Speaker 1: Oh I don't, you know, I don't. I don't initiate
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Speaker 1: the violence. I just do what a man would do
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Speaker 1: and just tend to himself. And in certain occasions I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I ain't never initiating no violence on a rapper. And
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Speaker 1: you know if I did, you wouldn't know about it.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like I didn't have problems
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Speaker 1: with people. You know what I'm saying that it went
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Speaker 1: way too deep, you know, but I don't need to
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I don't need to publicize that. I
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Speaker 1: think that like a lot of these guys that had
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Speaker 1: issues with me, you know, they come in to fight
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Speaker 1: with camera crews, you know what I'm saying, Like it's
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Speaker 1: were in the cloud era. So it's like, you know,
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Speaker 1: they think they they thought it was a free pick,
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Speaker 1: so they just want to, you know, do what they
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Speaker 1: gotta do to get their cloud up. But I don't
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Speaker 1: gotta do nothing like that, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: to get no cloud up, because, like you said, the
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Speaker 1: music speak for itself. My brother. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: We leave street stuff in the streets. I don't mean
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Speaker 1: get into that. You said someone now I'm now it's interesting.
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Speaker 1: And I wondered because I never thought about it. But
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Speaker 1: you said you make people feel good about coming from Gary, Indiana, sir,
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Speaker 1: And I was like, well, damn, I want to. I
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Speaker 1: never thought about what impact did the Jacksons have on
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Speaker 1: young black kids coming from Gary. I don't know. I mean,
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Speaker 1: you know, it was definitely motivation to see the you know,
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Speaker 1: the biggest musical family come from right around the corner
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Speaker 1: where you're from. But you know, it wasn't really like
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Speaker 1: a direct you know, tangible impact, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: But it's hard, man, you know what I mean. Like
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Speaker 1: Gary's a it's a tough place to be from, you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I don't go back enough,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because I got stuff that
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Speaker 1: I got going on and I'm trying to pursue. So
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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a position now I could
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Speaker 1: go back and make changes, but I wasn't in the
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Speaker 1: beginning of my career because I was still trying to
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Speaker 1: get to where I needed to be. I could see
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Speaker 1: how you're more relatable than the Jackson, is what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. I didn't like that.
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Speaker 1: But he didn't like the fact that people would say,
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Speaker 1: you know, from the same place as the Jackson. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: because you said that at the I remember that. I
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Speaker 1: was mad than because I didn't like you. For long time.
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Speaker 1: I ain't like you. I did not know. I am
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Speaker 1: to tell you so it was. It wasn't actually Double
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Speaker 1: Cell was MTV was m so we had to show
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Speaker 1: on MTV. You know how MTV writes the scripts. So
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Speaker 1: the teleprompt that says from Gary, Indiana, the same home
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Speaker 1: with the Jackson five and Michael Jackson, Freddie Gibbs, No, No,
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Speaker 1: don't do it, Envy, what was it to tell? Wrote
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Speaker 1: it out? What was it? They wrote it out? And
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Speaker 1: that's the way it was red. That's where it was written.
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Speaker 1: But you ain't say it like you said, like Gary
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Speaker 1: at home, he was cloudy. I can imagine. I believe you, Freddy,
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Speaker 1: I know this. I believe, Yeah, I believe I took
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Speaker 1: the fense to that. But you know, we cool. It
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Speaker 1: was like it was like fifteen years. So why you
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Speaker 1: don't like him because you mess up? He got I
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Speaker 1: didn't mess up. I said it the right way. He
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Speaker 1: gotta stay. I ain't sucking from Gary, Indiana. He said something.
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Speaker 1: I know. He didn't say that. You just lied on him.
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Speaker 1: I know he didn't say that. It was something Freddy,
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Speaker 1: that's all he doesn't say from Gary. And I'm not
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Speaker 1: funn What did you say? I seen the light skin
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Speaker 1: snigger trip. That's what I said. That's what I said.
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Speaker 1: So it's just the first time y'all made up no time,
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Speaker 1: by the way, over a span of thirteen years. That's
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Speaker 1: why I'm shocked. I've never heard you say. I've never
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Speaker 1: heard that big love and respect for when he didn't
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Speaker 1: like me. I still like that was a little we
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Speaker 1: spoke after that. It was there was a little time ago.
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Speaker 1: He was like fourteen years ago. All his bee Sicilian
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Speaker 1: shn't be this is It's like something he said. Can
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Speaker 1: I have my opinion not to like something? I got
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Speaker 1: beef for their body? Man was the Mmy's very sensitive.
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Speaker 1: Would you consider yourself sensitive? Emmy light skin man right
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Speaker 1: to be sensitive. He's a stereotyping stereotype. That's that's all
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Speaker 1: it is. As soon as I walked in, I said,
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Speaker 1: my light skin brother, that's right, that's my brother. For that.
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Speaker 1: We do away, we always be with. I do want
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Speaker 1: to along these lines, I do want to talk about
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Speaker 1: some things you did say on the album. Right, So
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Speaker 1: you and Jeez you talked about your own immaturity in
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Speaker 1: that situation. So what made you come to that realization
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Speaker 1: because this was something that for years you've had, you know,
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Speaker 1: kind of a chip on your shoulder about it. But
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Speaker 1: now you're like, you know what I was inventure. I
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Speaker 1: wasn't ready. You even said, you've listened back to some
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Speaker 1: of those old songs, yeah, and so on a Rabbit Vision. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I was just ready to just get past that in
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Speaker 1: my career, you know what I mean? Like I didn't
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Speaker 1: really you know, me and me and me and Jez
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Speaker 1: ain't never had no like physical stuff or anything of
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Speaker 1: that nature. So it's just like, you know, like we
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Speaker 1: can you know, I can, I can move past that.
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Speaker 1: That was just a business disagreement. Did you have a
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Speaker 1: conversation because you said some wild stuff about Jesus back
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Speaker 1: in the day. Nah, we didn't have a real conversation,
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Speaker 1: but we've seen each other and we uh, you know
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Speaker 1: sometimes just you know, a handshake is worth a thousand words.
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Speaker 1: You know, we shook each other hand. He was with
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Speaker 1: his wife, I was with my girl, and we just
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Speaker 1: kept it pushing. We was in the airport. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: the conversation can't be had, But I don't even think
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Speaker 1: if we need to then. But yeah, yeah, I don't
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Speaker 1: have none against none of that, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: Like that, that situation definitely made me strong and made
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Speaker 1: me a better artist. So you know, I pay homage
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Speaker 1: to do even when we wasn't when I wasn't fuck
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Speaker 1: with him, I'll still bumping trap a bag like I wouldn't,
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Speaker 1: you know, I said, I'll still listen to the music.
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Speaker 1: So it made you a boss, Yeah, definitely. But but
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Speaker 1: I had to, you know, I had to level up man,
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Speaker 1: you know, he said. I remember one time I had
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Speaker 1: a conversation with him in an interview and he said
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Speaker 1: that it just really you were upset because things didn't
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Speaker 1: work out for you as an artist with him. Correct. Correct, like,
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Speaker 1: like I said, it was just a bad you know,
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Speaker 1: business disagreement, you know, but I didn't um. I took
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Speaker 1: it too far and made it personal. And that's what
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Speaker 1: and that's why I messed up at you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. But I did that really to you know,
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Speaker 1: show a younger artist, you know under me, you know
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Speaker 1: that you can um. You you ain't a gangs unless
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Speaker 1: you can keep your composure. And in that situation, I
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Speaker 1: ain't keep my composure and I let it, you know,
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Speaker 1: I let my emotions spill all over the place. And
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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have did that. What is the title Soul
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Speaker 1: sold separately me? Man? Really just this album just about
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Speaker 1: taking risks and you know, life's a real gamble and
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Speaker 1: I've definitely taken a lot of risk in my life, man.
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Speaker 1: So I just wanted to just get it out there.
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Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, this is my first
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Speaker 1: major label uh album, and I put it out. So
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Speaker 1: I was working on it since I got the Grammy nomination,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I you know,
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Speaker 1: if I don't come with my best album this time,
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Speaker 1: then it might I might not have another one. So
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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let me, You're really focused.
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Speaker 1: So I really got focused on this, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like extra focused on it. You feel like
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Speaker 1: more eyes on you now because of the Grammy nominated
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Speaker 1: and the label so now which it open jumped to
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Speaker 1: an audience you might not have had before. Yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely, Like, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm about to go on tour with the gorillas, you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like I'm doing you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just create my own lane in
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Speaker 1: the game. Man, you know that's it. And an actor
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Speaker 1: down with the King. Congratulations on that. Actor and producer,
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Speaker 1: don't forget that now like that. Definitely a producer on
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Speaker 1: that film as well. We took that the Cans Film Festival.
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Speaker 1: So acting is cool, it's great, but you know, I
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Speaker 1: want to attack the film world the same way I
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Speaker 1: attack the music industry, you know what I mean. I
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Speaker 1: want to create things. I want to you know, I
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Speaker 1: want to be the producer. I want to be the director,
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I want to you know,
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Speaker 1: just you know, not do more than just acting, you
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Speaker 1: know you it's really out there, like farming and playing
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Speaker 1: with animals. Yeah, we really did do that. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying like animals was real too. Did you
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Speaker 1: what did you learn from that experience? It was? It
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Speaker 1: was pretty funny and interesting to see you in that environment,
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Speaker 1: you know what, man. I was like that playing that
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Speaker 1: role and doing that thing was real therapeutic for me
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Speaker 1: because I was really on that farm for for two months,
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Speaker 1: you know, like away from the rap game and all
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Speaker 1: of that, and it you know, it was COVID, so
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Speaker 1: you know, it was a real difficult time even shooting
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Speaker 1: a film during COVID. Everybody on the set got masks on.
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Speaker 1: You know. Um, I had a baby on the way
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Speaker 1: at the time, you know what I mean, Like I
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Speaker 1: remember hate Ter saw you doing that shout out my baby, mama.
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Speaker 1: But she was going in labor while I was on
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Speaker 1: movie set, and like it was COVID, so I couldn't
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Speaker 1: go in the hospital to see the baby. It was.
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Speaker 1: It was just a real wild, tumultuous time, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean. But uh, you know those times make
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Speaker 1: you stronger. You know. It's a family and everything he
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Speaker 1: was on. He was on bus down a lot. I
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Speaker 1: got a lot of kids. I ain't going for Nick
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Speaker 1: Cannon record, but uh, just three just thre to get
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Speaker 1: like twelve kids. But when day Children's mother's got really
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Speaker 1: mad at you after this album came out because you
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Speaker 1: named her, I would be like that. You know, people
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Speaker 1: just get frustrated, you know, be like that. You know
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Speaker 1: that was a time. But you know I spoke to
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Speaker 1: about it before they came out and everything, and it
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Speaker 1: was a decent conversation and she didn't get mad at
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Speaker 1: they came out. Yeah, because you the way you explained
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Speaker 1: it probably is not the way it came out on
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Speaker 1: the record. No, not at all, said it word for
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Speaker 1: word at things, and she didn't. She wasn't upset at all.
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Speaker 1: That's what it is, man, Baby mamas loved y'all love it, man.
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Speaker 1: We it's all about raising kids. It probably hit different
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Speaker 1: when the album come out. Hit a different album come
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Speaker 1: out and everybody listens hitting Yeah, they're hitting her. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: what it is man, Because you did say you're about
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Speaker 1: to squeeze academics titties. I love a fat bitch. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: where did that? Why why you talking about for that
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Speaker 1: second way you talk about one that you got to explain,
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Speaker 1: and you said I love a fat bitch and then
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Speaker 1: you talk about the academic city. You just call it
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Speaker 1: baby mama fat. No no, no, no, my baby mama's
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Speaker 1: not fat. But I like understanding the Seconday talking about
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Speaker 1: lines that he has to reach. Ok, though, that's that's
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Speaker 1: my thing. I'll do. Like I just blew a kiss
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Speaker 1: to Lizzo, but she didn't look at me. What did
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Speaker 1: you blow kissing? I've seen her somewhere and then I've
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Speaker 1: seen a picture on the wall that I went in
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Speaker 1: serious and I was like, man, I want to meet
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Speaker 1: Lizzo one day. Everybody giving lizz Or a hard time
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Speaker 1: and at need to leave her alone. Man, you ain't
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Speaker 1: met Lizzle yet. Nah. I saw it before and I
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, if she just looked at me, Like,
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Speaker 1: get your ass, what's what's You're an academics, y'all just
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Speaker 1: never gonna squash whatever y'all back and forth? Can Man,
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Speaker 1: it ain't nothing like that, you look, man, academics as
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Speaker 1: a person that I only see when I pick up
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Speaker 1: my phone, you know what I'm saying, Like to me,
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Speaker 1: it ain't even like real, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's like some internet troll thing, you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: But if I probably only seen him in person like
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Speaker 1: one time. But yeah, I'm a sensible guy. Man, I
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Speaker 1: ain't stupid, like we could have a conversation, you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean, No matter what you said, you know,
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Speaker 1: lo as you put your hands on me, ain't things fixable?
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Speaker 1: I didn't even see it, but I saw something yesterday.
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Speaker 1: Somebody sent me something. I don't know where it started,
11:50
Speaker 1: but he was like, you only what he said, you
11:52
Speaker 1: you got you got beat up twice this year. You
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Speaker 1: only saw half your records or something like that. Nobody
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Speaker 1: checking for you, leave big acolone. That's all cap though,
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Speaker 1: So I mean, you know that's all cap I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's what That's what academies do. Like I said, Man,
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Speaker 1: that's the I gotta pick up my phone and see academics.
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Speaker 1: I don't see him out here, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: So you know he gonna he gonna push the narrative
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Speaker 1: of you know, to his favorite all times. And he
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Speaker 1: don't like me, so I'm supposed to do you know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like somebody don't like you, you know,
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Speaker 1: they're gonna say noting nice about you, but the ain't
12:19
Speaker 1: gonna say the truth about you, so he can keep,
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Speaker 1: you know, spreading the falsehoods. I mean, he said my
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Speaker 1: brother was a district attorney. My brother's a guying of colleges.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like the top guying of college. You know.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you talking about? So it's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, like he gonna he gonna, he gonna spread
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Speaker 1: his own narrative, you know what I mean? Your brothers.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, my brother has a PhD. My brother, you
12:44
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, I don't.
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Speaker 1: I don't feel That's why I don't feel no no
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Speaker 1: way about nothing that he say. I'd just be like,
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Speaker 1: all right, man, okay, cool, would you ever do the show?
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Speaker 1: Would you ever do a podcast? If he asked me
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Speaker 1: to come on there, I go do a little bit going, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we got to hit for five minutes and then we
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Speaker 1: then we can go. Do we go five minutes, then
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Speaker 1: we can go, we can do whatever we need to
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Speaker 1: do it. I never could understand how somebody could not
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Speaker 1: like Freddy gives. I mean, I get people get sensitive
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Speaker 1: though if you say something about them, So I understand
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Speaker 1: that part of it. But you do have it jokes
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be honest, I don't know where none
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Speaker 1: of this ship started, Freddy's I don't know where this
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Speaker 1: ship with many started. I don't know where this ship
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Speaker 1: with Jim started. I have no idea how any of
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Speaker 1: this start. I even saw Biddy recently saying that it
13:27
Speaker 1: just went too far with Jim, like you always in
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Speaker 1: New York, y'all, y'all ran by each other millions of times.
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Speaker 1: Like that was weird. I thought, I'm still in New
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Speaker 1: York despite whoever got an issue with me, you know,
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Speaker 1: thinking about to give me a career about it too.
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Speaker 1: So you know, I don't really know it. You start
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Speaker 1: from Jos. I don't know, man. I let street ship
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Speaker 1: stay in the streets, and you know, I don't got
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Speaker 1: no problem with nobody that's like, you know, doing better
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Speaker 1: than me. So it's okay. I don't really worry about that.
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Speaker 1: I let all the hate come from the bottom and
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Speaker 1: just you know, deal with it had come with you know,
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Speaker 1: it is what it is. But people know who I
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Speaker 1: am and what and who I with. So did y'all
14:01
Speaker 1: really get into a tuessa lit Miami? Uh? It was
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Speaker 1: some stuff. It was some furnished moving but like, ain't
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Speaker 1: nobody really get Uh? It was just it was like
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Speaker 1: a food fight or something like that. It wasn't nothing
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Speaker 1: like It wasn't nothing crazy. That's an expensive food fighting
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Speaker 1: that rest, Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't nothing crazy like that.
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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody get like, you know, fucked up to that point.
14:20
Speaker 1: You know, it ain't nothing that you know, people can't
14:22
Speaker 1: move past. We were on Man, Do you feel like
14:24
Speaker 1: any of that overshadowed your artistry? Nah, not at all.
14:27
Speaker 1: It just made y'all talk about any more. And my
14:29
Speaker 1: music is good, so it don't even matter. Like you're
14:31
Speaker 1: still getting other great guest appearances. You know who I
14:33
Speaker 1: loved on the album, Ray Kuan, Yeah, and Great Yeah,
14:37
Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite songs, that one. And Rabbit Vision, Yeah,
14:41
Speaker 1: just to you know, to get guys like ray Kwon, Scarface,
14:44
Speaker 1: how how you convince scarf fast to get back wrapped?
14:46
Speaker 1: That's my dog? I mean, Scott Face real close. And
14:48
Speaker 1: that ain't the first collab we did. He collaborate me
14:50
Speaker 1: on on Pinyada, So it's like, you know, I look
14:54
Speaker 1: up to him. You know, I got a great relationship
14:56
Speaker 1: with guys like him and Bumby. You know, they was
14:58
Speaker 1: like some of the first, you know, big name features
15:00
Speaker 1: that I did coming in, so it's like they kind
15:02
Speaker 1: of they sharpened me up, you know what I mean.
15:04
Speaker 1: So I'm always gonna pay homage to Brad, you know.
15:06
Speaker 1: And J Paul Man, that was crazy. That was a
15:09
Speaker 1: crazy studio session. I love DJ Paul, you know what
15:11
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that was because when I was I
15:14
Speaker 1: was telling somebody that's like, when I was recording the album,
15:16
Speaker 1: I was in a real dark space, and that session
15:19
Speaker 1: really like brightened everything up. When he came in, he
15:21
Speaker 1: was just like happy and like the song was fun,
15:24
Speaker 1: and it was just like damn, you know what I'm saying,
15:25
Speaker 1: Because like I said, I was going through a lot
15:27
Speaker 1: of stuff, getting in fights, getting into it. You know.
15:30
Speaker 1: I had street stuff going on, homies getting killed, you
15:33
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, uh, legal stuff, you know.
15:35
Speaker 1: And I was putting all of that into the record.
15:38
Speaker 1: And then when DJ Paul came in and he like
15:40
Speaker 1: really like cheered me up. Man, he really liked lifting
15:42
Speaker 1: my spirits to help me finish the album. You know
15:45
Speaker 1: what I'm saying in the correct fashion. And you shouldn't
15:47
Speaker 1: get out of the dog space it do. Music is
15:49
Speaker 1: definitely music is therapeutic for me. Like I don't really
15:52
Speaker 1: you know, I hear you talk about therapy all the time.
15:54
Speaker 1: But I don't really like therapy like it right tried,
15:57
Speaker 1: it ain't really like it. Man. My therapist was cute too,
15:59
Speaker 1: so I had I couldn't get you flirting though flirting,
16:03
Speaker 1: but I don't like talking to dudes, you know what
16:04
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like, you know, I was like,
16:06
Speaker 1: all right, man, let me get out this therapy and
16:08
Speaker 1: just go make another album. So but there's other ways
16:10
Speaker 1: to heal though, like therapy is not the only only way, true, true, true.
16:13
Speaker 1: I might do like I did in the movie, just
16:15
Speaker 1: take a hiatus and just yeah, go on a farm,
16:18
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Just you know, switching up
16:19
Speaker 1: the environment. Man, rap get you know, it get kind
16:22
Speaker 1: of redundant sometimes, so you gotta like, you know, find
16:24
Speaker 1: other inspirations so you can like keeping keep doing it.
16:26
Speaker 1: And I've been doing it for a long time. That
16:28
Speaker 1: was the biggest thing for me because it felt like,
16:30
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like self sabotaged. I didn't know
16:32
Speaker 1: what was going on, but I'm like, damn, I see
16:33
Speaker 1: Freddie on bus Down, I see Freddie on Power. He's
16:37
Speaker 1: Grammy nominated, So why do screet shit? Now? You know?
16:41
Speaker 1: Now I know you come from that. But why now,
16:43
Speaker 1: I wasn't you know, I was chilling man, all the
16:45
Speaker 1: all the incidents, you see, I was just eating with
16:47
Speaker 1: my girl. Man, I wasn't you know. I don't think that.
16:50
Speaker 1: I don't go out, you know, trying to start nothing
16:53
Speaker 1: with nobody. But I gotta handle my business, you know
16:55
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like in any of those situations, you
16:57
Speaker 1: would have did the same thing I did. You know,
16:59
Speaker 1: I said security, He wouldn't had them. It was unexpectable. Well,
17:04
Speaker 1: I like to fight, so you know what I'm saying.
17:06
Speaker 1: So I do. I like to hit, so we can
17:09
Speaker 1: hit you know what I mean. If you want to
17:10
Speaker 1: hit them, we can hit it. Ain't I ain't ever
17:11
Speaker 1: gonna back down from that, you know what I mean.
17:13
Speaker 1: Like I said, in those instants, I hear my girl
17:15
Speaker 1: with me. Yeah, but the one in Buffalo could have
17:17
Speaker 1: been bad. You you you even said even time either
17:19
Speaker 1: time could hit them. Either time could have been bad.
17:21
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But like you know, but
17:23
Speaker 1: y'all like everybody like naming like these rappers and stuff
17:26
Speaker 1: like that, but they they't. No rapper ever hit me.
17:27
Speaker 1: Ain't none of them ever did nothing. They gotta like,
17:30
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not no little guy. You ain't about
17:32
Speaker 1: to just like run up on me. You're gonna think
17:34
Speaker 1: twice when you know. I mean, I ain't Deyonta wild
17:36
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. But yeah, to see it, I
17:38
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I mean, you just gotta be like,
17:40
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you're gonna think twice
17:43
Speaker 1: before you run up on me to you know, do
17:45
Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You know what I'm saying, You're
17:46
Speaker 1: gonna have to get reinforcements. And that's what everybody got
17:48
Speaker 1: to do in every case, but not that security ever.
17:51
Speaker 1: We got it, We got it, we got it. But
17:53
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a man at the end of the day. Man,
17:55
Speaker 1: bro just ever prevent you from getting like situations like
17:58
Speaker 1: shows or doesn't prevent anything like endorsement deals are people like,
18:01
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a little risky at not at all.
18:04
Speaker 1: I got my own wind. You want something, it's hard know,
18:07
Speaker 1: ain't nobody preventing nothing that thing going? Really? You got
18:10
Speaker 1: us if anything, they stopping theirselves. In one of your posts,
18:12
Speaker 1: you said you heard you know somebody saying hit them,
18:14
Speaker 1: like hit them, Yeah, you know, with the hammer and
18:17
Speaker 1: you know that goutt to make you think, like, you know,
18:19
Speaker 1: you got kids, like and the fact rappers is getting
18:22
Speaker 1: killed out here all the time, not just rappers, black
18:24
Speaker 1: men periods. You got to think about that too, you
18:26
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, because you know, like you said,
18:28
Speaker 1: it could be somebody that's about that life or somebody
18:30
Speaker 1: that's dead scared right, right, but one of them is
18:33
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a scary situation. True. I've
18:35
Speaker 1: been a way worse situations than that, though, I gonna
18:37
Speaker 1: tell you the truth, you know what I'm saying. But
18:38
Speaker 1: I just handled it accordingly. So I mean, what can
18:41
Speaker 1: I do? You know, I can't I can't control if
18:44
Speaker 1: I can't make everybody like me. And I can't control
18:46
Speaker 1: if you bring thirty people to a restaurant with a
18:48
Speaker 1: camera crew to try to like humiliate me. But you
18:50
Speaker 1: you know, you end up losing. But you was in Buffalo, right, Yeah,
18:54
Speaker 1: And I ain't worried about nobody in Buffalo. I was
18:56
Speaker 1: a state in this hotel. I ain't gotta do that. Man.
19:00
Speaker 1: Plus that day, it was like a shooting in the
19:02
Speaker 1: city and stuff like that, and you know, I was
19:03
Speaker 1: just chilling. I was around the corner from the show.
19:06
Speaker 1: I did what I had to do. You know, they
19:08
Speaker 1: did what they had to do, and I did my show, like,
19:10
Speaker 1: ain't nobody stopping my money and none of that. Ain'tbody
19:13
Speaker 1: gonna stop me from doing nothing. So it is what
19:15
Speaker 1: it is. I'll be back there next year to do
19:17
Speaker 1: a show. Can that be records out? I don't know.
19:21
Speaker 1: You want some wine? What's your infatuation with rabbits? The
19:25
Speaker 1: biggest Rabbit day is man. Shout out to my big
19:27
Speaker 1: homie Kenny Shine. You know what I'm saying. Shout out
19:30
Speaker 1: to the Lords. You know what I'm saying. You already
19:31
Speaker 1: know how were rocking man with the Rabbits. No, I
19:34
Speaker 1: don't now. I think I get it now. If you
19:38
Speaker 1: said that, I'm like, oh, okay, okay, you know what
19:40
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Hey, I'm just chilling man on Grandma Stove.
19:44
Speaker 1: You know you talk about I think your dad dealing
19:46
Speaker 1: with stomach cancer, your thoughts and suicide issues with your family.
19:50
Speaker 1: How was it unpacking all those emotions? That album was
19:53
Speaker 1: like a suicide note, to be honest, you know what
19:55
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's better that stuff like that go
19:57
Speaker 1: on a record instead of like a real suicide, you
20:00
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it was just, uh, there's
20:02
Speaker 1: stuff that I had to get out, you know what
20:04
Speaker 1: i mean, Like, uh, you know, shout out to my dad.
20:06
Speaker 1: He just beat his stomach cancer. Oh yeah, he got
20:10
Speaker 1: he had the surgery, you know what I'm saying. So
20:13
Speaker 1: you know that took a lot of prayer and a
20:15
Speaker 1: lot of you know, patients, you know what I mean.
20:16
Speaker 1: And you know that was something that I you know,
20:18
Speaker 1: that had me to press for a minut because I'm like,
20:19
Speaker 1: because I've been living in California so long, like you know,
20:23
Speaker 1: I probably haven't had the closest relationship with my father
20:26
Speaker 1: the past ten years, you know, on my musical journey.
20:29
Speaker 1: But uh, you know that that, you know, that cancer
20:33
Speaker 1: scare kind of like brought us close. And I hated that.
20:35
Speaker 1: It's like I'm talking to you more just because you're sick.
20:38
Speaker 1: That's whack, you know what I'm saying. So you know
20:40
Speaker 1: that kind of that definitely made me depressed for sure.
20:42
Speaker 1: Was her present father growing up? Of course, Yeah, that's
20:44
Speaker 1: a great dad, great dad, amazing, amazing father. I think
20:48
Speaker 1: we forget about that sometimes, like we go on our
20:49
Speaker 1: own journey and forget yeah, I mean, you forget we
20:52
Speaker 1: just think a phone call is good enough. I think
20:55
Speaker 1: that ain't good enough. Man. I gotta touch you, I
20:57
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta hug you, I gotta feel you know
20:59
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you, you know, my dad was like, man,
21:04
Speaker 1: it's just so difficult to see somebody go through that,
21:07
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like stomach cancers. It's crazy
21:11
Speaker 1: saying that period. But thank guy, he's you know, he's good. Yeah,
21:14
Speaker 1: he's good. Now, he's good. He's just moved to Vegas.
21:16
Speaker 1: He lit, he's singing. Any doing this thing? My dad
21:18
Speaker 1: in the shot lights. You know what I'm saying. You
21:20
Speaker 1: know he'd be doing this thing. You've been doing the
21:21
Speaker 1: thing for a long time. Did that really traveling with
21:24
Speaker 1: the group? Stop the capping at all? He wanted the
21:27
Speaker 1: original Showers now, he wanted the original Showers in the
21:31
Speaker 1: group though group and he doing this thing. But my
21:33
Speaker 1: dad like been dealing with music my whole life. He
21:36
Speaker 1: probably the reason I'm in music. He's been like singing
21:39
Speaker 1: and doing all of that stuff and singing background for
21:41
Speaker 1: groups and things of that nature. Like he introduced me
21:43
Speaker 1: to rap. And that's the dope ass family treat your
21:46
Speaker 1: daddy in the shot light. Your brother's the top guy
21:48
Speaker 1: of colleges in Chicago. Man, my dad the same man,
21:51
Speaker 1: It's Michael Jackson. So Michael Jackson used to beat him
21:53
Speaker 1: into talent shows and he was kids. I don't know.
22:00
Speaker 1: I'm not lying, man. Michael Jackson and my dad both
22:02
Speaker 1: was born in nineteen fifty eight. They both from Gary, Indiana.
22:04
Speaker 1: They was both too singing as niggas and Michael Jackson
22:07
Speaker 1: could dance better. Now I know your daddy got some
22:09
Speaker 1: funny ass stories. He got. He got hell of funny stories. Yeah. Yeah.
22:13
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, he was you know what
22:15
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like in the eighties. But after that he
22:16
Speaker 1: was like, man, fuck this, I want to sing because
22:18
Speaker 1: he kept seeing Michael Jackson being successful. Let Fatty sing
22:23
Speaker 1: a little bit on this. I'm the king of R
22:25
Speaker 1: and B. I thought I saw that before Kelly Braydon,
22:27
Speaker 1: before Kelly Price start of singing on the first I
22:29
Speaker 1: like how you started off the album of that song
22:30
Speaker 1: couldn't be done. That intro was amazing, and Kelly Price
22:33
Speaker 1: on the album was unexpected for he had to take
22:35
Speaker 1: him the church. Man. I feel like I was in
22:37
Speaker 1: church when I made that song man shout out the
22:38
Speaker 1: North of Ay for getting Kelly Price on that that
22:40
Speaker 1: was love man. I appreciate her for that. Her voice
22:42
Speaker 1: was angelic. On that. He shouted out, doctor umar On,
22:45
Speaker 1: I love doctor umar Man. You're not he supposed to
22:47
Speaker 1: come up here the shit he didn't come up with
22:49
Speaker 1: it yet this year? Why not? He was mad at
22:50
Speaker 1: you for something though, Yeah, he was. He was mad
22:53
Speaker 1: at me because I went on I was with Mike Tyson, Yeah,
22:56
Speaker 1: and me and Mike Tyson was talking about like white
22:59
Speaker 1: women interracial dating, and he was like, oh no, no, brother,
23:02
Speaker 1: Freddy Gribbs, you can't do that. You can't be you
23:03
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Man, I really want to meet
23:07
Speaker 1: because like, like when I was locked up, I was
23:09
Speaker 1: like reading like a lot of umar stuff and it
23:11
Speaker 1: was like I was like, man, when I U when
23:13
Speaker 1: I was in Europe and jail, I wrote him a letter.
23:15
Speaker 1: He didn't write me back, though he probably don't even
23:18
Speaker 1: get a bunch of letters. He might have ain't got that.
23:19
Speaker 1: He would have wrote you. I would have says, the
23:21
Speaker 1: donation of coupon or a gift, he would you know
23:24
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So I just told him that you know,
23:28
Speaker 1: admired his mind, and you know what I'm saying, was
23:30
Speaker 1: really uh paying attention to what he was saying. You
23:33
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't agree with that thing, hey,
23:34
Speaker 1: but you know, but that's like anything. But I really
23:37
Speaker 1: am adoctor Umar for real. He wanted to all your
23:39
Speaker 1: rabbage white. We like all colors, man, like all shape, white, black,
23:45
Speaker 1: hate and all of that. Man, Come on, man, you
23:46
Speaker 1: know I want to go back to the Stummach cans
23:48
Speaker 1: of things on the album. I think you said, uh
23:50
Speaker 1: that it makes you think about your own dietary issues
23:53
Speaker 1: and stuff like right right right, yeah, yeah, that's a
23:55
Speaker 1: you know, that's a hereditary thing. Like after my dad
23:58
Speaker 1: got a got diagnosed with stomach cans, I wouldn't got
24:01
Speaker 1: checked immediately, colon all of that type of stuff. You
24:04
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, black man, we you know, we
24:06
Speaker 1: got the scared of the doctor mentality, you know what
24:08
Speaker 1: I mean. And I figured ly for that colon right Colin,
24:11
Speaker 1: I'm thinking my dad at uh had been like doing
24:14
Speaker 1: this stuff at my age, he probably could have prevented that.
24:16
Speaker 1: But thank god that you know, we got that out
24:18
Speaker 1: the way and he moved past it. I got a
24:21
Speaker 1: Colin out, could be consultation today, they're going to your
24:23
Speaker 1: butt or nothing. I hope we're not going to do
24:31
Speaker 1: the same place. I pray to God, I'm not saying
24:36
Speaker 1: with mine it's around that time. Hey, I'm gonna tell
24:39
Speaker 1: you this. You don't feel it. It's not we're not
24:41
Speaker 1: getting the thing to day. It's this consultation with Please
24:46
Speaker 1: don't tell me you didn't feel it. You don't feel it.
24:49
Speaker 1: Here they drug you a somebody just love the drug out?
24:53
Speaker 1: Could you pass out? I wasn't in that drunk anyway.
24:55
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I've been thinking wine the whole time. No,
25:00
Speaker 1: they knock you outway. You're not suposed to drink before
25:02
Speaker 1: you get to college. Yeah, but not alcohol. I'll drink
25:05
Speaker 1: my own shit have like Colin, askby parties. Um, but
25:12
Speaker 1: they give you good drugs. Man, you're gonna go right
25:13
Speaker 1: to sleep. Man. I was thinking, like I was real scared.
25:16
Speaker 1: I was like, man, hurting my wake up. It wasn't
25:19
Speaker 1: none of that. It was all good. I went home.
25:21
Speaker 1: They was like, yo, you just can't drive after just
25:23
Speaker 1: have somebody somebody with you, somebody with me. I asked
25:25
Speaker 1: somebody with me and I was doped up all day.
25:26
Speaker 1: I was good. Man had no problems right now, I
25:31
Speaker 1: had no problems clean. He was like, man, you were
25:34
Speaker 1: a very healthy individual, sir. I was like, thank you.
25:37
Speaker 1: On the song Space Rapping too, you talk about you
25:39
Speaker 1: wonder if you're going to hell. I wonder if I'm
25:42
Speaker 1: going to hell. My soul obliterated that stuff you think about. Yeah,
25:45
Speaker 1: I'd be thinking about stuff like that. You know what
25:47
Speaker 1: I'm saying. When you live a past like like I
25:49
Speaker 1: got you, you know, you definitely think about stuff like that.
25:52
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, I've seen a lot dogs
25:54
Speaker 1: and you know, i'd be like, man, I'll just be praying,
25:56
Speaker 1: like man, let me especially like you know, like you said,
26:00
Speaker 1: how nangels this rap game is. And I pointed out
26:03
Speaker 1: out something else on my album, like, uh, like the
26:06
Speaker 1: pop smoke, Yeah that's in Grandma too. Yeah. When he
26:09
Speaker 1: got killed, I was like, you know what I'm saying,
26:10
Speaker 1: because it's like, man, like you, you work your whole
26:13
Speaker 1: life to get somewhere and be somewhere, and we're buying
26:16
Speaker 1: these expensive houses and yeah exactly, so you know, and
26:21
Speaker 1: I got me a house in the hill too. So
26:23
Speaker 1: I was just like, man, if I can get killed,
26:25
Speaker 1: up here, Like what am I doing? You know what
26:27
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I can go back to the streets
26:30
Speaker 1: to get killed. But if I made it all the
26:32
Speaker 1: way up here and I still get killed, Oh man,
26:34
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So how do you We had this conversation
26:37
Speaker 1: with you Herbo too, It's like, how do you celebrate
26:39
Speaker 1: your winds still dealing with that kind of PTSD and Trump.
26:44
Speaker 1: You got to celebrate them quietly with the people you love,
26:47
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and like out of the way,
26:49
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I think that uh you know,
26:52
Speaker 1: it's just with with this rap name man, Like you said,
26:55
Speaker 1: we want to celebrate and we get too inviting. Man,
26:57
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We open ourselves up to
26:59
Speaker 1: a lot of people on a lot of things, and
27:00
Speaker 1: we you know, we got to kind of curve that
27:02
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know on this song too much
27:05
Speaker 1: with money back, Yo. You said niggas got way too
27:07
Speaker 1: many enemies, they got to be chewed up. I said
27:10
Speaker 1: I got way too any too many enemies. I gotta
27:12
Speaker 1: be toowed up. So too, oh ship, I'm not carrying
27:16
Speaker 1: an I ain't got nothing on nothing on me. So
27:21
Speaker 1: that's just some rap lines. Now, you reference your girlfriend.
27:25
Speaker 1: You reference your girlfriend a couple of times. Um, so
27:28
Speaker 1: you also said that you had to cut off your
27:31
Speaker 1: whole rosters. How did you manage to settle down into
27:34
Speaker 1: a relationship. Uh, you know, you just gotta just be
27:37
Speaker 1: with somebody that's compatible with you. Man, you know what
27:39
Speaker 1: I mean that y'all both like the same things. You know,
27:41
Speaker 1: relationship ain't really number like a friendship that you you know,
27:44
Speaker 1: you're just nurturing and said, You're just it's just a
27:46
Speaker 1: friend you having sex with. How do you know she
27:50
Speaker 1: was the one to cut off all those other relationships
27:52
Speaker 1: like you said, how you know she was doing? Uh?
27:54
Speaker 1: You know, you just it's it's it's about being comfortable, man,
27:58
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not. You know,
28:00
Speaker 1: there's just certain people I can't trust and talk to
28:02
Speaker 1: about certain things, you know what I mean? And I
28:05
Speaker 1: just you know, at the end of the day, you
28:06
Speaker 1: just need somebody to be comfortable with. Man, How didn't
28:09
Speaker 1: bother you when it was bringing up her I guess
28:10
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a past, I don't know
28:12
Speaker 1: what she would No, No, I don't believe in monogamy
28:14
Speaker 1: or nothing like that. So I don't believe in like
28:16
Speaker 1: like owning people or like people like sexual pass or
28:20
Speaker 1: anything like that, or what they do they ain't gonna
28:22
Speaker 1: do with me. But you don't believe in monogamy. So
28:24
Speaker 1: you can. So you have a girlfriend, but that means
28:26
Speaker 1: you still see other people. I mean, we can see
28:28
Speaker 1: what we want to see. We could do all that together. Okay,
28:31
Speaker 1: got it open on both ends. You can share. Hey,
28:34
Speaker 1: I don't believe in you know, owning nobody, telling nobody.
28:37
Speaker 1: That's just my person who believe that. That may not
28:39
Speaker 1: work for everybody, but that's just me. I don't really
28:41
Speaker 1: I don't really get into that. You can't really you
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Speaker 1: can't make me mad by telling me, oh man, that
28:45
Speaker 1: girl shook so what yours did too? She just trying
28:49
Speaker 1: didn't do it over? So how long have you felt
28:53
Speaker 1: like that? Because I feel like you're a relationship kind
28:56
Speaker 1: of guy. No, I know I'm not, and you know
28:57
Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, I like a lot of girls.
28:59
Speaker 1: I just I feel like that my whole life. I
29:01
Speaker 1: was just probably scared to talk about it. Yeah, I
29:04
Speaker 1: was siding, you know, so I didn't. You know that
29:06
Speaker 1: probably messed up my first initial couple relationships because I
29:10
Speaker 1: was just I was doing it, but I wasn't, you know,
29:12
Speaker 1: but on a but I was hiding the fact that
29:14
Speaker 1: I was doing it. I was just like, yeah, I
29:16
Speaker 1: love you. I want to because I thought that I
29:18
Speaker 1: was doing what I you know, what I was supposed
29:21
Speaker 1: to do when I had my first child. I got
29:23
Speaker 1: engaged because yeah, we remember that because we all know her,
29:26
Speaker 1: remember we were on the TV show because but I
29:28
Speaker 1: didn't really want to get engaged honestly. So it was
29:31
Speaker 1: the right thing too. I thought it was the right
29:32
Speaker 1: thing to do because I was having my first child,
29:34
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, I got to be in
29:35
Speaker 1: a house with my child. That's honorable. But you know
29:38
Speaker 1: it ain't that, don't you know that's not always the
29:40
Speaker 1: right thing for you. Just because you had kids with
29:42
Speaker 1: a person. I don't mean you need to be living
29:44
Speaker 1: with them or being with you know what I'm saying.
29:45
Speaker 1: And it ain't a slight to her, you know what
29:47
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just that, you know, we weren't supposed
29:50
Speaker 1: to fit. You know, I love her, you know what
29:52
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I love all all the mothers on my children.
29:54
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't you know, we
29:55
Speaker 1: had disagreements and things of that nature. But at the
29:58
Speaker 1: end of the day, man, the goal is for the
29:59
Speaker 1: child to get where they need to be. So you know,
30:02
Speaker 1: I don't you know, um, I'll be as acide. You know,
30:05
Speaker 1: I'll do anything for the mothers of my children. Anything
30:07
Speaker 1: they're asking me, you know what I'm saying. So we
30:10
Speaker 1: can have gripes and stuff about my personal life and
30:12
Speaker 1: the way I live my life, but that's really all
30:14
Speaker 1: all it is. It's not a knock on me as
30:16
Speaker 1: a father because you know, my kids love me, So
30:19
Speaker 1: you think everything every disagreement that we might have is
30:22
Speaker 1: it got shit to do with my personal life ain't
30:24
Speaker 1: gonna to do with the kids. When you got one woman, though,
30:27
Speaker 1: don't you think things are a little bit more stable
30:29
Speaker 1: for you? A man? Don't know that's for you like
30:35
Speaker 1: all the girls. Baby, So that's something that you have
30:37
Speaker 1: to Yeah, I think if you're honest and a woman
30:39
Speaker 1: accepts that, and she's because sometimes women also try to
30:41
Speaker 1: adapt to what they think you want. But if she's
30:43
Speaker 1: okay with it and truly can accept that and y'all
30:46
Speaker 1: are open, Yeah, I have to go to an age.
30:48
Speaker 1: I gotta stop lying to myself and Lyne. You know
30:50
Speaker 1: what I mean, I can't do that. That's I gotta
30:51
Speaker 1: be honest. I gotta you know, I'm you know, I'm
30:54
Speaker 1: at an age while you know, I'm gonna live a
30:56
Speaker 1: certain way and I'm gonna half my way. And if
30:58
Speaker 1: you're not, you know, part of that thing, you could,
31:01
Speaker 1: you know, go have your way somewhere else. That's fine.
31:03
Speaker 1: Problem now it's so so separately. Having this as your
31:06
Speaker 1: first major label album, right, did you approach this differently
31:09
Speaker 1: than you've approached all your other projects. No, I didn't
31:12
Speaker 1: sound like No, I didn't. I did it. I did
31:14
Speaker 1: the same thing. The only thing I did with you
31:18
Speaker 1: know that, I really that And I don't even think
31:20
Speaker 1: it was a reach, you know what I mean. When
31:22
Speaker 1: I did the record with money Bag Yo, uh too much? Yeah,
31:26
Speaker 1: too much? They was like, oh yeah, this this a
31:29
Speaker 1: radio record, and I was just like, okay, cool, I'm
31:32
Speaker 1: glad that I'll wet y'all whistle with that. Leave me
31:36
Speaker 1: the funk alone. So I got your record. They got
31:39
Speaker 1: a couple of records off this, you know, they got,
31:40
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of things that could work. Rond
31:41
Speaker 1: and what I'm talking about, that's why He's like, yeah,
31:45
Speaker 1: they hate that mentality he will still have. But Na, no, no, man,
31:49
Speaker 1: they gotta do their job. You know what I'm saying.
31:50
Speaker 1: I get it, you know what I'm saying. The job
31:51
Speaker 1: gotta evolve, and they thought process got involved. And what
31:54
Speaker 1: I mean by that is what is a radio record
31:56
Speaker 1: in two dollars twenty? I don't know. I don't care.
31:57
Speaker 1: I ain't never heard a radio record. Records and I
32:01
Speaker 1: made records and people told me that they can do
32:03
Speaker 1: X y Z with it, so have at it. Either
32:06
Speaker 1: way it goes, you know what I mean? People know
32:07
Speaker 1: what I do. I'm still gonna do a couple of
32:10
Speaker 1: tours next year regardless, you know what I'm saying. Like,
32:12
Speaker 1: but I definitely didn't want to make a dud, you
32:14
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I wanted to make I just
32:16
Speaker 1: came off a Grammy nominated the album. If we want
32:18
Speaker 1: to go back to the Grammys, you put it, you
32:20
Speaker 1: put an album. Let's say you put the album comes out,
32:22
Speaker 1: it's out. But you know, let's say Lobster omelet Goals,
32:25
Speaker 1: Painting Strife Goals. But the lab would be like, well,
32:28
Speaker 1: don't the records, let's go at this one. Why are
32:29
Speaker 1: you gonna go against the people. If the people have
32:31
Speaker 1: already chosen, they gonna go with the people. Yeah, I
32:33
Speaker 1: would hope. So I think they're gonna go with the people. Man,
32:35
Speaker 1: the people I work with, we're smart, we got good
32:37
Speaker 1: We got good people around us. Nor a round, we
32:39
Speaker 1: got good people. I don't think that. I don't think that. See,
32:43
Speaker 1: they let me come in and do what I wanted
32:45
Speaker 1: to do, you know what I mean. I made the
32:46
Speaker 1: album I wanted to make. You know what I mean.
32:48
Speaker 1: There was nobody standing over my shoulder, you know what
32:50
Speaker 1: I mean, like, oh do this, do this, do this
32:52
Speaker 1: x y Z. Of course it was pressure because it's
32:54
Speaker 1: a new company and you know what I mean, new
32:55
Speaker 1: set of people you're dealing with, you know what I mean,
32:57
Speaker 1: you want to impress. But you know it's always been
33:00
Speaker 1: pressure on me in my career, so it wasn't nothing.
33:02
Speaker 1: It just made me rise to the occasion. What's your
33:03
Speaker 1: favorite on an album? Oh? Man, that it'd be changing
33:07
Speaker 1: up with my move, you know what I mean. Honestly,
33:09
Speaker 1: right now there's probably like CIA and crack Instagram and
33:12
Speaker 1: Instagram and crack Instagram and yeah, that's real. Is that
33:20
Speaker 1: what you want to get? Into right now. You won't
33:21
Speaker 1: get into that joint if you want. I want them
33:23
Speaker 1: to explain that a little bit because what I was
33:25
Speaker 1: listening to it, I was like, man, that makes a
33:26
Speaker 1: lot of sense, because I really do feel like people
33:28
Speaker 1: don't understand the impact that Instagram and social media period
33:31
Speaker 1: is gonna have on us right in the future. That
33:33
Speaker 1: shit is ruining us. Yeah it is. And I said that,
33:36
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because you know, I didn't
33:38
Speaker 1: necessarily mean Instagram. I ain't't got no Instagram, but yeah,
33:42
Speaker 1: I think I got a new one that everybody Fila
33:45
Speaker 1: Freddie gives on Instagram. Yeah, they keep kicking me off.
33:48
Speaker 1: But the cloud thing alone is a bad drug. It's
33:51
Speaker 1: just as bad as crack, so you know what I mean. Like,
33:53
Speaker 1: you know, we got guys doing stuff um for the
33:57
Speaker 1: Internet that they wouldn't do ten fifteen years and you're like,
34:00
Speaker 1: oh man, you did that, like just for the cloud,
34:02
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy. So you know, an AIDS and self explainatory.
34:06
Speaker 1: You don't want AIDS even though they got medication for you,
34:08
Speaker 1: still don't want it, you know what I'm saying. So
34:12
Speaker 1: that's why I made that record. Man, I just want
34:13
Speaker 1: to show, you know, three things that was kind of
34:15
Speaker 1: detriment to the community. Yeah. You at the end of it,
34:17
Speaker 1: you got the studio session where you they realized what
34:21
Speaker 1: you said and everybody was laughing. Turned into a song.
34:23
Speaker 1: Real Yeah, that was lamboring. We was in Miami and
34:26
Speaker 1: we was just loud. He was He was like, oh yeah,
34:27
Speaker 1: we're gonna put this on the album. So it worked out.
34:29
Speaker 1: And are you really doing stand up comedy? Is that
34:32
Speaker 1: you're really gonna pursue it? I'm already doing it, man,
34:38
Speaker 1: shout out to Sam j Chris read you know what
34:41
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and Rest in Peace, Jack Knight. But the
34:45
Speaker 1: reason that I was on that show buzz Down is
34:46
Speaker 1: because they I had a stand up comedy show in
34:49
Speaker 1: LA and they came through and they was like, oh man,
34:50
Speaker 1: you all right, We're cool. So then they gave me
34:52
Speaker 1: the role. So who came through? Chris and Sam damn yea,
34:56
Speaker 1: Chris Yep and Jack Jack Knight. Rest in Peace, Jack Knight.
34:58
Speaker 1: But remember first told me about that show. I don't
35:01
Speaker 1: know if it was Chris Chris all saying, and he
35:03
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, Gary Indiana Walmart, like you gotta
35:06
Speaker 1: have Freddy on that. I got Freddie Freddie playing in
35:08
Speaker 1: the store. Man, Yeah, man, I love him. Man. They
35:10
Speaker 1: gave me a real opportunity to uh, you know, get
35:13
Speaker 1: in that comedy world. So you know, I owe all
35:15
Speaker 1: of that you know, comedic stuff to them. You know
35:17
Speaker 1: Sam j for Show and she she definitely somebody that
35:20
Speaker 1: I look up to. My homeboy Brian Moses, you know,
35:23
Speaker 1: he pretty much gave me my start in that. So
35:25
Speaker 1: you know, I love those guys, and you know it,
35:27
Speaker 1: you know, this is it's great for me, you know
35:29
Speaker 1: what I mean to be doing something else outside of rap,
35:31
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I love growing up watching
35:34
Speaker 1: uh Martin Lawrence through a deaf comedy gym. You know
35:37
Speaker 1: that's something that I you know, definitely want to get
35:38
Speaker 1: into hosting and you know and giving like black comics
35:41
Speaker 1: and and all kind of comics different exposure. You know. Absolutely,
35:44
Speaker 1: let's get into the joint right now and stay out
35:45
Speaker 1: of trouble. Freddie, Man, see that the record you really
35:48
Speaker 1: want to play with? You want to play for? Say
35:50
Speaker 1: what you want to play? Oh? I don't know what
35:51
Speaker 1: this pick a record? Yea? Hey man? What too Much
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Speaker 1: to Breakfast called good Away