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HR 1: Browns (5-2) at Steelers (5-2) Week 8 Game Preview · The Steelers Report

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  Speaker 1: Gets a snap.
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  Speaker 2: Back to pass. Looking. Right. And it's intercepted.
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  Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson.
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  Speaker 2: A tumbling grab.
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  Speaker 3: Heads up the sideline. Still on his feet.
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  Speaker 1: Weaving towards the middle of the field.
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  Speaker 2: What a play by Peyton Wilson.
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers surveying. Six in the play clock. Gets a snap.
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  Speaker 4: Back to pass. Four-man rush.
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers moving out to the left.
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  Speaker 4: Steps up.
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  Speaker 3: And Rodgers will tuck it and run.
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  Speaker 4: And Rodgers dives forward inside the 25-yard line.
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  Speaker 2: First down. Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
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  Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: Audio Network.
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  Speaker 4: Will it be trick or treats this Sunday at AccuShare Stadium?
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  Speaker 4: The day after Halloween will feature the Week 8 rematch
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  Speaker 4: of the AFC North leading Cleveland Browns, who are 5-2,
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  Speaker 4: with the AFC North leading Pittsburgh Steelers, who are also
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  Speaker 4: 5-2 on the season.
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  Speaker 3: The winner comes out.
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  Speaker 4: With a treat of 6-2 and atop the AFC North
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  Speaker 4: come Sunday evening. The loser, I guess you can say,
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  Speaker 4: will have been tricked and will fall behind in the
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  Speaker 4: AFC North.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everyone.
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  Speaker 4: Welcome in to the preview of Week 8 Brown Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Ed Troop alongside Double B Brian Bacco. And Brian,
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  Speaker 4: as we said, Halloween will be over by Sunday, but
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  Speaker 4: one team will have gotten a treat and the other
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  Speaker 4: one will have been tricked.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I kind of wish the, and happy Friday
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  Speaker 5: to you, my friend, I kind of wish the game
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  Speaker 5: was on Halloween, and then that way maybe we'd see
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  Speaker 5: some costumes from the.
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  Speaker 2: Players on both sides.
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  Speaker 5: You know, I know some people were curious, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Steelers quarterbacks wore the Peaky Blinders outfits, those old,
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  Speaker 5: that's a British show, I think, and they wore those
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  Speaker 5: suits with the little hats out in Paris, and I
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  Speaker 5: know some haters were like, did they think this game
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  Speaker 5: was in London instead of Paris? Did they not realize
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  Speaker 5: that that's different? Those are completely different countries. Is Europe
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  Speaker 5: all just one big thing to them? And then others
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  Speaker 5: were like, no, I think it was a Halloween costume.
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  Speaker 2: I guess blame me as a reporter. I really didn't
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  Speaker 2: follow up with any of them.
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  Speaker 5: Either way, though, I guess Rodgers didn't wear it on
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  Speaker 5: the plane home because we saw him with the chains
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  Speaker 5: and the sunglasses. But yeah, it's too bad we won't see.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe some guys still will dress up for the day.
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  Speaker 5: after Halloween uh isn't November 1st uh a different sort
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  Speaker 5: of holidays in their name.
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  Speaker 4: For that one too the only one I know for
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  Speaker 4: November is the no shave November in which I will
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  Speaker 4: participate in I will not be shaving I will grow
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  Speaker 4: the beard in not only for November Brian Backo but
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  Speaker 4: you'll see it all winter long for me but I'm
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  Speaker 4: not sure I mean you in November you got Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 4: just a few weeks away but it looks like you
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  Speaker 4: found something there All Saints Day.
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  Speaker 2: Also known as the start of Dia de los Muertos,
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  Speaker 2: the Day of the Dead.
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  Speaker 3: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: So it's more.
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  Speaker 5: Of a, I guess it's a Mexican, major Mexican and
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  Speaker 5: Latin American holiday. I mean, I guess that's kind of
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  Speaker 5: like their offshoot of Halloween. But yeah, I wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 5: if some guys still go ahead and dress up. I
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  Speaker 5: think we should start every segment today with a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of Halloween small talk, given that it will fall
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  Speaker 5: between today's show and Sunday's game.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, Ed?
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  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
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  Speaker 4: We could definitely do that at the start of each segment.
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  Speaker 3: Boy, I can't even talk to get that out. We
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  Speaker 3: can do that, Brian Backo. I like that idea.
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  Speaker 4: Let's talk about the game as we've been all week
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  Speaker 4: long that is huge in the AFC North between the
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  Speaker 4: Browns and the Steelers. We know the first result, 27-24
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  Speaker 4: back in week four on Thursday night. Cleveland wins that
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  Speaker 4: first meeting. But the Steelers, of course, have a chance
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  Speaker 4: to even up the series within the AFC North. We
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  Speaker 4: know about all the history of the numbers. We've gone
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  Speaker 4: through that here this week, Brian. It's been forever since
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  Speaker 4: Cleveland's won a regular season game, going back to 2003
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  Speaker 4: here in Pittsburgh, other than the wildcard game in 2020.
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  Speaker 3: You can go all the way back to 1988.
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  Speaker 4: The last time that the Browns swept the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: But throw that all out the window.
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  Speaker 3: Facts are facts.
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  Speaker 4: This is the 2026 version of the Browns, the 2026
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  Speaker 4: version of the Steelers. And give Cleveland credit, they got
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  Speaker 4: one under their belt, but now it's time for the
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  Speaker 4: Steelers to even up the series.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be great to see, of course. And
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  Speaker 2: this is a series that has.
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  Speaker 5: Kind of been pretty fiery over the last, oh, I guess, seven,
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  Speaker 5: eight years, maybe even the past decade or so.
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  Speaker 2: It used to be.
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  Speaker 5: Common sweep for the Steelers to take care of the
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  Speaker 5: Browns twice in the same season. In recent years, even
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  Speaker 5: when the Browns have been kind of down or had
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  Speaker 5: their struggles at the quarterback position, which is frequently, they
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  Speaker 5: have found a way to beat the Steelers more often
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  Speaker 5: than not. But that's usually in Cleveland. In fact, it's
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  Speaker 5: almost always in Cleveland. So it's been back and forth,
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  Speaker 5: but both teams holding serve at home. That's what's on
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  Speaker 5: the mantle or on the plate for the Steelers this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Try to defend home turf against the Browns. Make sure
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  Speaker 2: they don't sweep you.
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  Speaker 5: And they would really be flying high and feeling like
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  Speaker 5: they're stamping themselves as legitimate playoff contenders, AFC North title contenders.
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  Speaker 2: But, you know, otherwise, I.
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  Speaker 5: Think if they lose this game, they'll have a difficult
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  Speaker 5: back half of the schedule, too. They haven't faced the
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  Speaker 5: Bengals yet, much like the Steelers haven't faced the Ravens.
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  Speaker 5: The two Ohio teams haven't played. From here, the Browns
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  Speaker 5: face the Saints in New Orleans coming off their bye.
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  Speaker 5: And then they face the Houston Texans in Cleveland. An
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  Speaker 5: interesting game there for the Deshaun Watson storyline. And then
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  Speaker 5: the Browns have a bye. So if they win this one,
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  Speaker 5: they'll be taking a ton of momentum into a game
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  Speaker 5: with the Saints team that we just saw and weren't
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  Speaker 5: overly impressed.
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  Speaker 2: By, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: No, no doubt about that, Brian. It's a key in
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  Speaker 3: Cleveland season as well.
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  Speaker 4: We're going to talk to Ashley Bastok of Cleveland.com coming
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  Speaker 4: up here today at three o'clock on the show. We'll
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  Speaker 4: get Ashley's take. We had her on the first time
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  Speaker 4: ahead of the Thursday night matchup. So it'll be interesting
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  Speaker 4: to get her thoughts on what the vibe in Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: is right now. I would imagine Browns fans are pumped
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  Speaker 4: and rightfully so, but I'm sure they're also erring on
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  Speaker 4: a side of caution too moving forward because they've seen
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  Speaker 4: this song and dance before. And one thing, as we said,
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  Speaker 4: the Steelers have been very good here at home. Even
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  Speaker 4: since that 2020 playoff game, they've still won five straight, right? 21, 22, 23, 24,
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  Speaker 4: and 25 here in Pittsburgh against the Browns to add
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  Speaker 4: since that 2003 number of winning games here in Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 4: But looking at the current state of the Browns, the
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  Speaker 4: current state of the Steelers, Jalen Warren continues to be
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  Speaker 4: the engine of this Steelers offense, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: We know this.
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  Speaker 4: He had 137 scrimmage yards last week against New Orleans,
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  Speaker 4: including that 101 rushing yards. He's had at least 70
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  Speaker 4: scrimmage yards in eight consecutive games.
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  Speaker 3: Think about that for a second.
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  Speaker 4: That's the longest active streak among NFL running backs, and
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  Speaker 4: he's had 550-plus rushing yards and 250-plus receiving yards through NFL.
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  Speaker 3: The first seven games of this season.
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Warren will continue to be a key factor for
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  Speaker 4: the Browns to stop and a key factor for the
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  Speaker 4: Steelers to be successful on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: For sure, Eddie.
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  Speaker 5: He's been the tide that's carrying all ships for the
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  Speaker 5: Steelers week in and week out, really, since that Patriots game.
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  Speaker 5: But I even go back to that one and I
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  Speaker 5: felt like he was keeping the Steelers' offense afloat here
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  Speaker 5: and there.
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  Speaker 2: He's been fantastic this season.
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  Speaker 5: You can put him up against any running backs numbers
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  Speaker 5: to this point in the 2026 campaign. It's, it's really impressive,
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  Speaker 5: which in the morning is doing as a true featured back.
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  Speaker 5: We'd always seen him be pretty efficient as part.
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  Speaker 2: Of a, you know, a one, two punch or a,
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 5: As the guy who's kind of spelling the number one back,
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  Speaker 5: you know, even a season ago, it's, it's easy to
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  Speaker 5: forget that Kenny Gainwell came in here and, you know,
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  Speaker 5: one team MVP and.
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  Speaker 2: Was really productive on a per-touch basis himself.
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  Speaker 5: But what Jalen is doing this year, and Rico Dowdle's
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  Speaker 5: getting back into the mix, so it's not quite as
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  Speaker 5: heavy a workload anymore for No.
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  Speaker 4: 30.
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  Speaker 5: But he's obviously proven that if that does become the
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  Speaker 5: case again, he can handle it and he can still
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  Speaker 5: be efficient and explosive on top of all of that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Rico Dowdle coming on strong the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 4: contributing to the Steeler offense. That's been encouraging as well.
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  Speaker 4: The offensive line playing well. Aaron Rodgers playing well. I mean, really,
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  Speaker 4: right now, this offense clicking at a high level. The defense,
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  Speaker 4: as we've talked about, they've been bending, but they haven't
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  Speaker 4: been breaking. But Cleveland, when you look at their run defense,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe this goes along with the Jalen Warren-Rico Dowdle conversation,
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  Speaker 4: Double B. is very vulnerable when it comes to explosive plays.
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  Speaker 4: The Browns have allowed 28 runs this season of at
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  Speaker 4: least 10 yards or more. That's the most in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: Their defense actually ranks last in explosive run rate allowed.
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  Speaker 4: Steelers averaging about 4.64 yards per carry, and that's fourth
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  Speaker 4: in rushing yards after contact as well. So maybe an
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to get after this run defense. We know their
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  Speaker 4: sack numbers. We know the defensive line of Cleveland, 13
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  Speaker 4: sacks up front so far this season.
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  Speaker 3: They have a total of 18 sacks.
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  Speaker 4: But maybe the Steelers' run game, if they can establish
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  Speaker 4: that run like they have these last few weeks, that
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  Speaker 4: could be a benefit to get after this run defense
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  Speaker 4: of Cleveland that has struggled at times.
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  Speaker 5: I think you always want to play from that posture,
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  Speaker 5: if you can, in a game where you're at home,
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  Speaker 5: you're going to have the crowd at your back, and
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  Speaker 5: if you can establish that early on, make the Browns one-dimensional,
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  Speaker 5: force them to have to play from behind. Sometimes it
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  Speaker 5: really is as simple as control the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 5: dominate up front, and if you're the first team to.
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  Speaker 2: Really establish the run, grab a lead.
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  Speaker 5: Force the other team to play catch-up play from behind,
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  Speaker 5: then they're going to be pretty limited in what they
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  Speaker 5: can do, and they're not going to be balanced and two-dimensional.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the time.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's always a key for any team in
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  Speaker 5: any football game, but I think that just ratchets.
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  Speaker 2: Up so much more in these AFC North clashes. It's
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  Speaker 2: so much about.
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  Speaker 5: Physicality and being those guys who can move the other
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  Speaker 5: line against their will from.
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  Speaker 2: Point A to point B. And Jalen Warren has been
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  Speaker 2: a beneficiary, I think, at times of the offensive line
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  Speaker 2: doing that.
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  Speaker 5: But I think there have also been times where he
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  Speaker 5: makes something out of nothing. And that's why he is
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  Speaker 5: leading all running backs in yards per touch right now, Ed,
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  Speaker 5: with at least, you know, at least for guys who
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  Speaker 5: meet the criteria of probably something like 50 touches, you know,
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  Speaker 5: rushes plus receptions to.
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  Speaker 2: This point in the season. Jalen is still leading that pack.
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  Speaker 5: At 6.8 ahead of guys who are much bigger names
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  Speaker 5: in the NFL.
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  Speaker 2: Take your pick. I think, you know, right behind him
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  Speaker 2: is looking at who's next up here.
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  Speaker 5: You know, he's pretty far ahead of the pack, but
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  Speaker 5: Kenneth Walker, the third and Bijan Robinson are, are right
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  Speaker 5: there as far as the big names. And those guys
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  Speaker 5: are really good as well. But like I said before,
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  Speaker 5: Jalen Warren, I mean, the, in this case, the numbers
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  Speaker 5: don't lie. It's not like there are any empty calories there,
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  Speaker 5: From him, the Steelers team has been grinding out victories.
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  Speaker 5: They've needed everything he's given them offensively. I wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 5: seeing Rico Dowdle continue to stay involved because I think
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  Speaker 5: he's also someone who, when you talk about establishing that
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  Speaker 5: character that you want to play with in this game,
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  Speaker 5: he's a hard runner. He's a bigger guy than Warren.
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  Speaker 5: Also runs with power between the tackles. I think he
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  Speaker 5: can help wear down that Browns defense too. And if
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  Speaker 5: he does at that point, I don't care who it
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  Speaker 5: is taking off. through a seam with some daylight and
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  Speaker 5: breaking off a big run. It can be Dowdell Warren,
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  Speaker 5: it can be Travis Homer or Lou Nichols for all
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  Speaker 5: I care, Ed.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, get that big run going and get the ball
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  Speaker 4: into the end zone. And if you're able to do
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  Speaker 4: it in the red zone, that would be even more important, Brian,
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  Speaker 4: because that's one area that the Steelers have struggled in
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  Speaker 4: so far this season. They actually ranked 27th in red
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  Speaker 4: zone offense, converting only 47.4% of.
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  Speaker 3: Their opportunities in the red zone into touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: On the flip side, Cleveland's defense is has been pretty
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  Speaker 4: good in red zone defense.
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  Speaker 3: They are currently ranked sixth in the NFL as well.
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  Speaker 4: We talked about third down conversions most of this season
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  Speaker 4: where the Steelers have struggled. That got better last week,
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  Speaker 4: over 50% against the Saints.
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  Speaker 3: But the red zone, we haven't talked much about that.
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  Speaker 4: They've been settling for a lot of field goals, especially
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  Speaker 4: inside the 10-yard line. It looks like Cleveland has done
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  Speaker 4: pretty well in that area.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's been a talking point this week.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, there weren't that many Bikes hit
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  Speaker 5: the apple as far as that goes against the Saints.
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  Speaker 2: I think they technically went one for four in the
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  Speaker 2: red zone.
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  Speaker 5: But on that last one, I mean, they get a
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  Speaker 5: penalty there at the end on the made field goal
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  Speaker 5: by Chris Boswell.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't didn't matter.
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  Speaker 5: It ended up being a possession that ended the game.
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  Speaker 5: So as far as when they actually finished a drive
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  Speaker 5: in the red zone, I think it was one for three.
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  Speaker 2: Some questionable calls or non calls for.
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  Speaker 5: The Steelers passing game in that instance.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, everybody wants to see them sharper.
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  Speaker 5: If you're going to be an elite NFL team, an
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  Speaker 5: elite NFL offense, you need to punch it in a
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  Speaker 5: lot more than that. Once you get inside the 20,
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  Speaker 5: you don't want teams doing to you what it seems
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  Speaker 5: like the Steelers defense often does to opposing offenses where
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  Speaker 5: they bend, but they'll break. And that's where they really
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  Speaker 5: bow up and are at their best. I think for
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  Speaker 5: the Steelers, finding that will come with being able to
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  Speaker 5: run the ball a little bit more, maybe even a
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  Speaker 5: little more often. In those instances, we saw the run-pass
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  Speaker 5: ratio get not so out of whack after the way
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  Speaker 5: that it went down, down the stretch against Tampa. They
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  Speaker 5: leveled up a little bit, or leveled off a little bit,
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  Speaker 5: I should say, against the Saints. And I think this
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  Speaker 5: is going to be another week in which Mike McCarthy
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  Speaker 5: is going to commit to the run, stick to the run,
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  Speaker 5: get Spencer Anderson maybe even involved in that jumbo package.
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  Speaker 5: But hey, that's the cat-and-mouse nature of the NFL, because
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  Speaker 5: the Browns are probably expecting that.
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  Speaker 2: They've probably been watching that film a lot from Paris.
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  Speaker 5: You can always zig when the other team thinks you're
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  Speaker 5: going to zag, and that's what's beautiful about following and
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  Speaker 5: analyzing and watching this game of football. You never know
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  Speaker 5: if your team is going to try to throw a
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  Speaker 5: curveball or simply lean into what's been working for them and.
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  Speaker 2: Try to build off of that.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Just when you think you got everything figured out, you
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  Speaker 4: don't when it comes to the NFL. That includes game planning,
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  Speaker 4: winners and losers, last place, first place, everything. And again,
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  Speaker 4: we're only Seven weeks in, just about to be eight
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  Speaker 4: weeks into the regular season, things starting to take shape.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm with you, Double B.
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  Speaker 4: And that's one thing, Mike McCarthy, I will say before
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  Speaker 4: we go to break here, the game planning week to
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  Speaker 4: week has been different. They haven't really stuck with just
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  Speaker 4: one solid game plan. I mean, they have definitely played
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  Speaker 4: to their strengths. They've played to the weaknesses of their
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  Speaker 4: opponent week in and week out, and that's what you
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  Speaker 4: should do. There was a time in and around the
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  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers where it was run, run, run, and just
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  Speaker 4: play tough defense and win games.
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  Speaker 3: It worked for a long time.
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  Speaker 4: It was a winning formula, but in today's NFL, that
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  Speaker 4: formula sometimes does not work. and the Steelers have been
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  Speaker 4: able to adapt at it at times, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 4: When Double B and I come back, we're going to
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  Speaker 4: get into our five keys on offense, and then at
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  Speaker 4: 2.40 today, in and around there, we'll get into our
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  Speaker 4: five keys on defense. 3 o'clock, it's Ashley Bastok, Browns
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  Speaker 4: team reporter for Cleveland.com. Then we'll finish up the show
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  Speaker 4: today with some injury updates. We'll look at the Cleveland
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  Speaker 4: Browns a bit more, plus our Renegade preview in and
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  Speaker 4: around the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: For week number eight.
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  Speaker 4: But first, this is the Steelers report on SNR, part
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  Speaker 4: of the Steelers Audio Network.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
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  Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
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  Speaker 1: Audio Network.
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  Speaker 4: Hard to believe we are at the end of October, Halloween,
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  Speaker 4: Saturday this weekend. November 1st, Steelers-Browns on Sunday afternoon, 1
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  Speaker 4: o'clock at Accushore Stadium. That'll be one month to the
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  Speaker 4: day in between the first meeting, which was on a
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night to start the month of October off.
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  Speaker 3: And that was in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: On Thursday Night Football, now a month later on November 1st,
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  Speaker 4: we get the rematch.
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  Speaker 3: But as we said, Double B, Saturday is Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you, I guess the obvious lead in
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  Speaker 4: here for Halloween is, what is your favorite candy when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to Halloween treats?
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  Speaker 5: I think when you have this discussion, Ed, do you
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  Speaker 5: think you need to do almost separate conversations between chocolate
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  Speaker 5: and non-chocolate?
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  Speaker 4: We can do that, but I will tell you this
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  Speaker 4: up front. I am just a chocolate type of guy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get into all the sweet tarts and all
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  Speaker 4: that other candy type stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so like Skittles, Starbursts, that doesn't do anything for you. Smarties,
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  Speaker 2: all right.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I'd probably lean toward those, honestly, if I
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  Speaker 5: could only have one for the rest of my life,
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  Speaker 5: chocolate or sugary, sweet, whatever we want to call the
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  Speaker 5: other category there.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a big Sour Patch Kids guy, and that's always humbling.
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  Speaker 2: You're 35 years old. You probably shouldn't eat something.
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  Speaker 5: Called Sour Patch Kids anymore. But hey, you like what
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  Speaker 5: you like. Skittles, also very good. As far as.
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  Speaker 2: Chocolate, if I could only have one thing for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of my life, man, that's a tough one. I
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  Speaker 2: might go Milky Way.
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  Speaker 5: I like the nice, soft, caramel Milky Way, but Kit Kat.
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  Speaker 2: A close second.
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  Speaker 3: That's my number one, Kit Kat. Old-fashioned Hershey bar. Love that, right? Snickers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a big Snickers guy. You're not a Hershey guy.
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  Speaker 3: You're shaking your head up on the other side there.
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  Speaker 2: No. Plain chocolate? I mean, it's just so boring. That's
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  Speaker 2: like going to the— Old-fashioned. Ed, I'm going to go ahead.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to go out on a limb here. You
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  Speaker 5: go to get ice cream with your family. You get
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  Speaker 5: vanilla or chocolate plain, don't you?
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  Speaker 3: I do.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 4: I do, man. I'm a soft serve type of guy,
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  Speaker 4: but sometimes I'll put like some sprinkles and different things
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  Speaker 4: like that on there.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm a little more adventurous, I suppose, with my
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  Speaker 5: ice cream flavors and I don't eat just a plain
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  Speaker 5: Hershey's chocolate bar.
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  Speaker 2: I need some sort of substance in there. Some, whether
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  Speaker 2: it's crunch, caramel.
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  Speaker 5: Some kind of mix. I like butter fingers. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: those will probably mess up your teeth, but I enjoy them.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't eat just like And you know what?
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  Speaker 5: I would extend this out to some other Halloween treats.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not going to eat just like plain potato chips.
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  Speaker 5: That's so boring to me. I at least need Doritos
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  Speaker 5: or like a barbecue chip or something. Variety is the
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  Speaker 5: spice of life. And for me, I can never go
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  Speaker 5: with the most basic of options for really anything.
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  Speaker 4: When it comes to chips and pretzels, I'll eat pretty
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  Speaker 4: much anything there. Plain, Doritos, whatever you want to talk about. Barbecue,
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  Speaker 4: sour cream and onion, cheddar. Now we're going down a
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  Speaker 4: deep rabbit hole here, Double B. Now we're off the
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  Speaker 4: candy subject. Snickers is one of my favorites. Back to
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  Speaker 4: the favorite treats whenever it comes to Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: I'm with you. Milky Way, Three Musketeers, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: It's good. It's soft. I'm with you there.
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  Speaker 4: I like a soft chocolate candy this type of the
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  Speaker 4: year for Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: Your kids? My kids are a bit older.
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  Speaker 4: My high scorer has been out of the Halloween game
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  Speaker 4: now for a couple years, but my middle scorer is
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  Speaker 4: still in the game.
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  Speaker 3: He will.
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  Speaker 4: Be a football player. I was going to say Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 4: but that's not right. I got to think about that.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to wear a jersey.
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  Speaker 4: He's pretty easy once you get into middle school. You
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  Speaker 4: just pick your favorite player. Oh, Patrick Sertain.
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  Speaker 3: That's it.
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  Speaker 4: He got a Sertain jersey, Bronco jersey. About a month ago,
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  Speaker 4: we bought it for him.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to debut it. on Halloween night. There you go.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, my kid's only in first grade and he's already
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  Speaker 5: at the point where he just wants to wear a
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  Speaker 5: soccer Jersey or wear Ronaldo and do the shoe celebration.
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  Speaker 2: And that's it.
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  Speaker 5: And he's been being that for everything so far. I
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  Speaker 5: think on Halloween night, I got to at least get
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  Speaker 5: him to like carry around a soccer ball, you know, to, to,
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  Speaker 5: round out the costume a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Otherwise, you're just wearing what you'd wear.
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  Speaker 5: Any other day, pretty much. He's already gotten lazy in
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  Speaker 5: the costume game. He's been obsessed with Twix. That is
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  Speaker 5: his favorite candy chocolate bar at the moment. They were
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  Speaker 5: handing out candy at the Stade de France. They were
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  Speaker 5: going around the concourse. They had some workers who were
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  Speaker 5: happy to give out some little bite-sized pieces. I tried
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  Speaker 5: something called Bounty over there, which I googled it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a British... Candy, it's.
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  Speaker 5: Basically just mounds, which we have here. Chocolate, coconut filling.
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  Speaker 5: I had one, just to say I tried it. It
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  Speaker 5: was fine, but no one's over in the U.S. grabbing
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  Speaker 5: Almond Joy or mounds if they have.
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  Speaker 2: Their choice, are they?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think so. Well, pretty cool.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, we'll continue to get ready for Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: We'll continue to get ready for Steelers-Browns this upcoming weekend.
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  Speaker 4: And as we do that, we get to our five
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  Speaker 4: keys on offense, and then our next segment we'll do
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  Speaker 4: our five keys on defense. Number one on offense this week, Brian,
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  Speaker 4: we already talked about this in our opening segment. It's
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  Speaker 4: establishing Jalen Warren and attack that Cleveland run defense.
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  Speaker 3: Again, Cleveland has allowed a 28 runs of 10-plus yards
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  Speaker 3: or more, the most in the NFL.
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  Speaker 4: And Warren, again, has at least those 70 scrimmage yards
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  Speaker 4: in eight straight games. You've got to get him touches early,
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  Speaker 4: as you were saying this last segment, and take advantage
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  Speaker 4: of Cleveland's struggles attacking contact. And also with that, Brian,
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  Speaker 4: I'd also like to add it could set up play action.
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  Speaker 4: Steelers haven't done much play action this year with Aaron
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  Speaker 4: Rodgers and company. Maybe it's because early on in the
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: season they had their struggles with the run game. But
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see some play action this week and
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  Speaker 4: maybe some pops across the middle to your big tight ends.
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  Speaker 5: And another part of it, too, beyond that is– we've
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  Speaker 5: talked a lot this week about how the Browns really
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  Speaker 5: heated up Aaron Rogers in that game in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: Got after him with a cavalcade of players. Uncle Tommy
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  Speaker 5: word of the day there. And it was mostly, I
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  Speaker 5: thought schematic for the most part, you know, stunts and
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  Speaker 5: games that the Steelers didn't do a great job picking
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  Speaker 5: up or passing off on the offensive line as.
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  Speaker 2: An O-line guru.
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  Speaker 5: Ed, you can back me up on that or not,
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  Speaker 5: but if you do run the football and, You keep
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  Speaker 5: yourself out of those situational moments where you don't really
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  Speaker 5: know where the blitz is going to come from, where
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  Speaker 5: the pressure is going to come from, and you do
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  Speaker 5: need your offensive line to be perfect or pretty close
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  Speaker 5: to it when the defensive line from the Browns and
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  Speaker 5: even some linebackers are trying to confuse you and disguise
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  Speaker 5: things and get the Rodgers that way.
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  Speaker 4: No doubt, and that's actually our second key on offense, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: You're reading our sheet without even having it in front
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  Speaker 4: of you. It's to protect Aaron Rodgers. Rodgers was sacked
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  Speaker 4: five times in that first.
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  Speaker 3: Meeting, as you said.
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  Speaker 4: And Cleveland is averaging 2.9 sacks per game so far
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  Speaker 4: this season. Meanwhile, the Steelers have allowed a 3.1 sack
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  Speaker 4: per game average. That's among the NFL's worst so far
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  Speaker 4: this season. Look, if they can get some quick throws,
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  Speaker 4: effective protection schemes up front on that offensive line, and then, again,
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  Speaker 4: get help from your tight ends or your running backs
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  Speaker 4: when necessary. I mean, throw it out of the backfield.
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  Speaker 4: That's worked this year, too. I think it's a must.
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  Speaker 4: It's not so much a key to this game, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: It's a must.
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  Speaker 4: They can't have the force that Cleveland brought on that
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  Speaker 4: Thursday night game, that pass rush. That was a big
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  Speaker 4: part of the Steelers' struggle offensively in that second and
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  Speaker 4: third quarter. I'm more confident now in the Steelers' offensive
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  Speaker 4: line now that they've had five games in a row
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  Speaker 4: to continue to gel and continue to work together in
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  Speaker 4: protection of Aaron Rodgers.
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  Speaker 3: So hopefully they'll be able to do that this week.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a big part of their game plan,
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  Speaker 4: but you have to protect Aaron Rodgers in this game,
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  Speaker 4: no doubt.
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  Speaker 5: And when he has gotten sacked, he has lost a
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  Speaker 5: ton of yards on these sacks.
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  Speaker 2: They have been outbreakers a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Some of them have been potential backbreakers on him, it
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  Speaker 5: looks like. Gee, some of these hits he's taking, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it's twofold to protect him. Keep yourself in a reasonable
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  Speaker 5: down and distance, and also keep your quarterback alive through
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  Speaker 5: the end of this final season for the 42-year-old. Geno
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  Speaker 5: Smith has the most sack yards lost this season, I believe,
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  Speaker 5: but Aaron Rodgers is right behind him. So with some
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  Speaker 5: of these deeper drops, he is getting brought to the ground,
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  Speaker 5: and he's getting brought to the ground way behind the
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  Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. That's obviously not good for the Steelers.
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  Speaker 5: And with Rodgers being not the.
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  Speaker 2: Most fleet of foot anymore, you like to see him.
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  Speaker 5: Be AA run Rodgers at the end of that Saints game,
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  Speaker 5: as I think the Steelers put out on Instagram in
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  Speaker 5: one of those clips. But you know that he's not
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  Speaker 5: going to be evading pressure a ton. It's more about
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  Speaker 5: getting the ball out quick, which they've done about as
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  Speaker 5: well as any team. But when you don't, and you're
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  Speaker 5: drifting back there trying to keep your eyes downfield and
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  Speaker 5: make a play, not only can you get sacked, but
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  Speaker 5: you can put yourself in an unreasonable down and distance,
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  Speaker 5: or you can see yourself get knocked out of field
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  Speaker 5: goal range, which we've seen once or twice so far
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  Speaker 5: this year, have we not?
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  Speaker 4: It's a good point by you. I got the stat
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  Speaker 4: right in front of me. He has been sacked 22
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  Speaker 4: times in seven games. He had 29 total back in 2025,
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  Speaker 4: so he's already at 22 through seven games.
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  Speaker 3: Not good.
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  Speaker 4: And on average, he loses 25 yards per game to sacks, Brian.
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  Speaker 4: And that is the second worst in the NFL. All right,
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  Speaker 4: number three on our five keys on offense. We will
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  Speaker 4: go with DK Metcalf here. Get DK the ball downfield.
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  Speaker 4: Metcalf had 115 receiving yards in the first game up
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  Speaker 4: in Cleveland on that Thursday night.
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  Speaker 3: Rodgers, though, he's completed.
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  Speaker 4: Just 20% of his deep attempts entering this game this weekend.
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  Speaker 4: The Steelers need to find opportunities for explosive plays and
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  Speaker 4: forcing low percentage throws.
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  Speaker 3: And part of that will be finding DK deep downfield.
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  Speaker 4: Easier said than done because I'm sure Denzel Ward once
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: again will be matched up one-on-one on Metcalf, but he
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: found some breaks in the first meeting, Brian. He got
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  Speaker 4: 115 yards, but my memory serves correct. I think a
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: lot of that was late when the Steelers were coming
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  Speaker 4: back in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 5: It was, and a lot of that was on Tyson
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  Speaker 5: Campbell too, so maybe they learned that, hey, you can
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  Speaker 5: move DK around a little bit and get the more
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  Speaker 5: advantageous matchup. The deep passing stats are a bit concerning today,
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  Speaker 5: for the Steelers past game. But I think some of
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: that is, is lost in the box score. When you consider,
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: you know, they've drawn some DPIs deep downfield, which is nice. Now,
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: part of that was Roman Wilson earlier in the year.
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  Speaker 5: He's not going to be available to you in this game.
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  Speaker 5: He also had a nice game the first time around
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  Speaker 5: against the Browns. I think he had one that he
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: almost took to the house, right? Am I thinking of
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: the same game here in that one?
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  Speaker 2: So, you know, Roman's not going to be out there.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that that's really, a huge part of
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  Speaker 5: Jeremy Bernard's game, but it is for DK Metcalf when,
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  Speaker 5: when he gets deep, I'd like to see him pick
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  Speaker 5: up where he left off. Cause that's a good point that,
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: that he really got going against the Browns the first
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  Speaker 5: time around.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that was, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Just the matchup individually or if they started finding something
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  Speaker 5: that worked against that defense, but hopefully that's the case
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: because he finished really, really strong in that game would
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: have finished stronger. Perhaps if, if Rogers hits him on
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: that final Hail Mary heave, but, That's water under the
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: bridge now, and if you don't learn from a loss,
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  Speaker 5: then what good is it doing? So hopefully they did
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  Speaker 5: in terms of getting things going in the passing game
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  Speaker 5: as they did late in Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: Our fourth key of the game on offense this upcoming
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: week against the Browns for the Steelers to get the.
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  Speaker 3: Win is keeping your tight ends involved.
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  Speaker 4: Look, Darnell Washington and Patrick, I was going to say Patrick,
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  Speaker 4: Pat Friermuth.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure he goes by Patrick sometimes, too.
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  Speaker 4: Have combined for 39 catches, 360 yards, Brian, and seven
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: touchdowns in seven games. And I think you had the
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: stat earlier this week, didn't you, that they have scored,
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: at least one of the two of them have scored
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  Speaker 4: a touchdown in, what, the last five games or something
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  Speaker 4: like that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, Fryermuth had a touchdown in that first Cleveland game,
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  Speaker 5: but he didn't do much other than that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think if.
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: You're trying to work around the lack of receiver depth
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: at the moment. And, you know, who knows, maybe we'll
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: see Marquez Valdez-Scantling get.
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  Speaker 2: Elevated this week. I think I remember, didn't he have.
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  Speaker 5: A rough game last year against the Browns in that
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: final game of, or not the.
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  Speaker 2: Final game of the season, but the second and last
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: game of the season.
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  Speaker 5: That one was in Cleveland on that day that really
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: nothing went right for the Steelers offense down DK Metcalf.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: But I think that was a.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Game where they tried to have MBS with targets and Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't get much going in that regard.
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: Either way, whether he's out there or not, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: you know that you don't have your full complement of
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: pass catchers.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Looks like Ben Skoranek might return though. He was able
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: to practice again Thursday.
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: We'll see what, what the final injury report says, but
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: Pat Friermuth and Darnell Washington, they need to be heavily
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: involved every week, especially so when you are down Roman Wilson,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: Michael Pittman Jr. You know, you're, you're looking for some
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: answers in the past game and, I'd love to see
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  Speaker 5: those guys be involved in a ton of 12 personnel
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  Speaker 5: in this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would too. I'm with you there.
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  Speaker 4: Our final key on offense for the Steelers to beat
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  Speaker 4: the Browns this week is to finish drives with touchdowns.
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  Speaker 4: We already commented on this during the opening segment today too.
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  Speaker 4: The Steelers currently ranking 27th in red zone offense, converting
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: only 47% of their opportunities into touchdowns. Meanwhile, Cleveland, ranked
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: sixth in red zone defense. The Steelers cannot afford to
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: settle for field goals after moving the ball effectively between
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the 20s. Brian, they need to convert into touchdowns. We
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: already touched on this. But again, I go back to
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: our last point talking about the tight ends. Use these
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: tight ends as you have this season to your advantage
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  Speaker 4: in the red zone. Stretch the football field or, again,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: work off play action. We talked about play action as
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: our first key on offense today. In the red zone,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: so many options, but one thing is you'd rather see
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: touchdowns than field goals, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 5: The fade routes to DK Metcalf weren't really working in
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: the end zone against New Orleans and Paris, but they do.
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  Speaker 2: To Darnell Washington. You know, guys just bounce off of
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: him like a ping pong ball.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe go back to that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I always like to see, you know, I think
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  Speaker 5: Pat Friermuth had an uncharacteristic drop in that game at
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: the Stade de France. So maybe get him back involved.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: And Aaron Rodgers, I think, is really good. He'll go
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: right back to guys again, even if they let one go.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: Saw that last night, too. I don't know if you
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: were watching the Packers-Panthers game at all, Thursday night football,
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: but Matthew Golden was having a rough go of it
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: in terms of making the grab. But Jordan Love found
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: him in the end zone, and he pulled that one in,
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: probably helped the young receiver from Green Bay. Just see
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: one go through the hoop when you're going through some struggles.
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: And obviously the Packers took care of the Panthers pretty
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: well in that one. And speaking of the Panthers, Adam,
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  Speaker 5: I keep kind of monitoring this for later in the season.
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  Speaker 2: It's week six.
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  Speaker 5: Week 16, the Steelers are still TBD on what day
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: of the week they're going to play. I think Steelers-Panthers,
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: as long as the NFC South keeps going like this,
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: might be the day after Christmas, December 26th, because the
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: other games that are TBA for that week, Bucks-Falcons, that
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: one could also get the Saturday individual time slot, but
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: Bengals-Colts is probably not going to be a good game,
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: and Commanders-Vikings is probably not going to be a good game,
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: so just stay tuned for that if you're a A
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: Steelers fan that's trying to plan out Christmas week or
• 31:28
  Speaker 5: you've got family coming in and want to know when,
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: how they could get to a game, I think there's
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: a pretty decent chance that Steelers-Panthers will get one of those,
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  Speaker 5: not necessarily primetime, but individual game slots that week on
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  Speaker 5: Saturday instead of Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: I'm good with that. I like Saturday football in December.
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: I like how they flex those games to Saturdays once
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: college football winds down in the last few weeks of December.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: you have Saturday games double B. I like that on
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: Saturdays in December. Whenever we come back, we'll get into
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: our five keys on defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 3: He's back. I'm Troop.
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  Speaker 4: It's the Steelers Report right here on Steelers Nation Radio,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: part of the Steelers Audio Network.
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  Speaker 1: This is the Steelers Report with Brian Batko and Ed
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Troup on Steelers Nation Radio, a part of the Steelers
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Audio Network.
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  Speaker 4: Wrapping up our number one here on the Steelers Report.
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  Speaker 4: We'll get to our five keys on defense for the
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers this weekend against their AFC North rival, Cleveland Browns.
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: But before we do that, we're talking about Halloween.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Halloween.
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  Speaker 4: Because, of course, Halloween is Saturday this weekend ahead of Steelers-Browns. Which,
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: by the way, also just a special note for everyone
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: out there. Remember to turn your clocks back Saturday into Sunday.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: You'll gain an hour on Sunday post-Halloween celebration.
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  Speaker 3: So that's good.
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  Speaker 4: Which means, Brian, I'll operate for like a week on
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: thinking it's a different time. Like, for instance, at 1
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: o'clock on Sunday... In my mind, I'll already be ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I'll be thinking it's 2 o'clock and not 1 o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It gets weird.
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  Speaker 3: That's for sure. What do you think of the time change?
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  Speaker 3: Are you a fan?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you have to be a fan of fall back,
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  Speaker 4: not spring ahead. Spring ahead, you lose an hour of sleep.
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  Speaker 4: Fall back, you relax, you slow down, you gain an
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  Speaker 4: hour of sleep.
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  Speaker 2: I just wish we had neither one.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not a fan of daylight savings time in general,
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  Speaker 5: or I guess standard time, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I wish we just never touched the clocks at all.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I think there are a couple states that might do that,
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: but that's just me. Obviously, yes, we have to rather
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: gain an hour. I also gained an hour in Paris
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  Speaker 5: because their clocks changed overnight from Saturday and Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: So that was nice.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: But when you have little kids, and I don't know
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: if you can think back and remember it, it's not
• 33:47
  Speaker 5: really helpful to gain an hour because their body clock,
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: like they're so, I'm already struggling to get my kids
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: to sleep past like 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're little kids.
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: So it doesn't, necessarily help but at least maybe that
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  Speaker 5: will be a point this year where I'll let them
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: stay up a little later on Saturday into Sunday and
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: hopefully we can get ahead of the clocks that way
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  Speaker 5: but yeah it's not the same as when I was
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  Speaker 5: in college and you get an extra night of partying
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: when you when you fall.
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  Speaker 4: Back yeah that's an advantage then but if you have
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: little kids as a as an adult when you're adulting
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and you have little kids it's tough yeah when you
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: change those times Their whole schedules go a bit crazy,
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: that's for sure. But either way, it's an exciting weekend.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: You have Halloween on Saturday. You've got college football, of course,
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  Speaker 4: as well. And then you have the hour change going
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  Speaker 4: into Sunday, and then you have Steelers-Browns, 1 o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: For first place in the AFC North.
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  Speaker 4: We were going over our five keys on offense last segment,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: so let's wrap up our number one double B with
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: our five keys on defense for.
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  Speaker 3: The Pittsburgh Steelers.
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  Speaker 4: First and foremost, stop Junkins and force Cleveland into passing situations.
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  Speaker 4: The Browns rushed for 183 yards last week against Tennessee,
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  Speaker 4: with Junkins recording 96 of those and two touchdowns last
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  Speaker 4: week on the ground.
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  Speaker 3: Much different than the first time around.
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  Speaker 4: Steelers did a pretty good job stopping the run and
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  Speaker 4: stopping Junkins on that Thursday night game. The Steelers are
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: allowing just 3.7 yards per carry. That's sixth best in
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: the NFL. Win those early downs and make the Browns'
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: offense one-dimensional. Shut down the run game, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 4: They're coming off a big game last week against the Titans.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, because that's going to keep– if you do let
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  Speaker 5: Quinch on Junkins kind of control the game, ripping off
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  Speaker 5: runs of four, five, six, seven, eight yards a pop,
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  Speaker 5: you're not going to allow your pass rushers to get
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: to do what they do so well. And that's going
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: to be a problem in any game, but I think
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  Speaker 5: especially against someone who's also pretty sack-prone in Deshaun Watson.
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  Speaker 5: Judkins is, to me, I mean, he's a key for
• 35:56
  Speaker 5: the Browns in this one. I would think that they're
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: circling him over there in Cleveland to have a good game.
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  Speaker 2: I can remember the years of.
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  Speaker 5: Nick Chubb being a part of that backfield where it
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: was a headache to bring him down. He seemed like
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: he was always just making a guy miss, shaking off
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  Speaker 5: a tackle. So absolutely, there's a lot to worry about
• 36:16
  Speaker 5: there with Quinshawn Judkins. Not so much, well, knock on wood,
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: maybe I'm jinxing it, famous last words, but I was
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: going to say not so much hitting a home run
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  Speaker 5: for the Browns, but death by a thousand cuts if
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: they sustain some long drives, string some things together behind Judkins,
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: and just feel like they're coming downhill at you all game.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, no doubt about that. You've got to get after
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  Speaker 4: this run. You've got to continue to stop it again.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: First time around in Cleveland, Steelers did a pretty good
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: job there against Junkins and the Cleveland Browns. I'm going
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: to quickly refer to my sheet just to give you
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: the facts in that game. Junkins had 17 carries for
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: 53 yards. McLaughlin had that 28-yarder for a touchdown. Brian Watson,
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: seven carries for 22 yards. So as a team, they
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: were over 100 yards, 112 yards that night, but no
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: individual 100-yard rushers in the Steelers' defense as They should be.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know if they are priding themselves, but I
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: think they would be, Patrick Graham and that coaching staff
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  Speaker 4: and those players, on the fact that they have yet
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  Speaker 4: to give up a 100-yard individual rusher so far this
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  Speaker 4: season through seven games, and they've faced some good ones,
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  Speaker 4: as we know. All right, number two, contain the Browns'
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  Speaker 4: explosive rookie receivers. Casey Concepcion and Denzel Boston combined for
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: 153 receiving yards in the first meeting on that Thursday night.
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  Speaker 4: Concepcion recorded a career-high 129 receiving yards, in week six,
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  Speaker 4: while Boston averages 18.6 yards per carry. Actually, that was
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  Speaker 4: last week with Concepcion against Tennessee, not week six.
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  Speaker 3: That would have been week seven.
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  Speaker 4: 18.6 yards per catch for Boston on the season so far.
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  Speaker 4: The Steelers must limit that separation and prevent yards after
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  Speaker 4: the catch. It's going to be tough to do. They're
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  Speaker 4: two very talented rookies. They had a big game the
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  Speaker 4: first time around against the Steelers. They're coming off a
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  Speaker 4: big game the last couple of weeks, including the game
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  Speaker 4: in Tennessee, Double B. And by the way, I just
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: like saying the name KC Concepcion because I feel like
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: it's just a fun name to say.
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  Speaker 5: I remember saying during the draft that if he ended
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  Speaker 5: up with the Steelers, it'd be kind of perfect. The
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Immaculate Concepcion could be the go-to nickname there. But that's though,
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  Speaker 5: you know, him and Boston, I liked a lot coming
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  Speaker 5: out of the draft, especially Boston, you know, big body.
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  Speaker 5: That's where I worry that even if you do limit
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: or even clamp down pretty considerably on Judkins, that this
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: Browns offense actually does have a counterpunch. As long as
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: Deshaun Watson kind of plays point guard and distributes the
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: ball and makes one big play here or there, they
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: can still beat you through the air. This isn't a
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: team like the Colts to me in week five. You
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: take Jonathan Taylor out of the game, Yeah, they've got
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Tyler Warren, but there wasn't a lot else to them.
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  Speaker 5: I think this is a Browns team that, even if
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: you do force them to drop back and throw 40-some times,
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  Speaker 5: that's a lot of opportunities for the two young guys
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  Speaker 5: to make plays. And Jerry Judy made some plays even, too,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: as he's kind of been the forgotten man for that
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: Cleveland offense. But he did make some plays at the
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: end of Brown Steelers round one.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, absolutely. Jamel Dean, Asante Samuel Jr.
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  Speaker 5: whoever's playing safety on the back end there, whether it's
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: Jaquan Brisker, Deshaun Elliott, Robert Spears Jennings, Jalen Ramsey's found
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: himself into pass coverage quite a bit. You've got to
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: be on your P's and Q's against these young whippersnappers
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  Speaker 5: out of Cleveland.
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  Speaker 4: Number three on our five keys on defense for the
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers is pressure Deshaun Watson. Cleveland has allowed a
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: league-worst 3.6 sacks per game and has the NFL's worst
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: sack rate allowed at 8%. Watson has failed to account
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: for multiple touchdowns now, Brian, in four straight games, disrupt
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: his timing, close those throwing lanes of his, and keep
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: him from extending plays with his legs. Deshaun Watson in
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: the first meeting against the Black and Gold was 24
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  Speaker 4: of 33 for 268 yards, a touchdown, and an interception.
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  Speaker 4: He was sacked twice in that game. Absolutely, get pressure
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  Speaker 4: on Watson. And again, Cleveland has struggled in that department,
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: so maybe the Steelers' defense can take advantage of getting
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: home on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Get pressure on Watson.
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  Speaker 5: But also keep him contained because you don't want to
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: come flying in there and then there's a rush lane
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: open and available for him to take off through. He's
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: obviously a little bit more mobile now than he was
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: earlier in the season and in years past even, I think.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: He's getting some of that burst back. He's not going
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: to be Lamar Jackson ever in that department, but he
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: can wiggle away and hurt you on the ground with
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: his legs too.
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: We saw that. in week four, that that's something else
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that the Steelers have to account for.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: Tyler Shuck had that in his repertoire as well, but
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: obviously that wasn't really a problem in Paris. Nothing really
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: on the ground was a problem for the Steelers in Paris,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: but I do wonder if Watson will be a little
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: bit more willing to run than Shuck was.
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  Speaker 2: That's, that's also something to keep an eye on in
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: this game.
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  Speaker 4: Number four, there is one team worse than the Pittsburgh
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: Steelers on third downs on offense.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: And it's the Cleveland Browns.
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  Speaker 4: They've converted just 36% of third downs. That is the
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: lowest rate in the NFL this season. Meanwhile, the Steelers'
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: defense is among the league's best at preventing offenses from
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: sustaining drives.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Force third and long, bring.
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  Speaker 4: The pressure, as we just talked about, on Deshaun Watson,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: and make Cleveland earn every first down on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Steelers, I mean, I think with T.J.
• 41:46
  Speaker 5: Watt, Nick Herbig, you know, I'm looking still for Alex
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: Highsmith to– to break back through again. One of these
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: times I like their ability to, to generate some pressure
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: on third down and Jalen Ramsey went from a pretty
• 41:59
  Speaker 5: heavy blitzing against the bucks to not so much against
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: the saints. So I think Patrick Graham is going to
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: be pretty week to week with that. And I'll tell
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: you another under the radar, maybe hidden, hidden advantage for
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: the Steelers. I think it's going to be loud at
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: Accresure stadium. And I think that's not going to be
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: easy for the Browns. They might have to go on
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: the silent count. They're going to have to deal with
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: the crowd noise to me. Maybe the Browns fans will
• 42:23
  Speaker 5: show up.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: We'll see how much orange is in the stands on
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: Sunday come 1 o'clock. But I think with those towels waving,
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: fans foaming at the mouth right now for a team
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: that has won three straight and hasn't been home for
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: three weeks, I think that's also something for Deshaun Watson,
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Todd Munkin and company to deal with. Maybe you'll see
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: a delay a game, false start. timeout, get burned on
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: those third downs. That would be a sight for sore
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: eyes down in the North Shore.
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, you bring up a good point, Brian. No doubt
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: the crowd's going to be into it on Sunday. It
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: is going to be loud there because first place in
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: the AFC North is up for grabs.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, it's the Cleveland Browns.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Our fifth and final key on defense for this week
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: for the Pittsburgh Steelers is to keep the second half
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: defensive streak alive. The Steelers have not allowed a second
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: half touchdown now in four consecutive games.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: The Steelers allow just.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: 6.7 points per game after halftime and have yet to
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: allow an opponent into the red zone in the fourth
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: quarter this season. Keep tackling, limit those explosive plays, and
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: finish drives with stops. Steelers defense in the second half
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: has been nasty so far this season.
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that that's sustainable, but it is impressive.
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: Credit to Patrick Graham. for the adjustments. And it seems
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: like it's been even better since he has moved from
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: the booth to the sideline, getting a lot of input
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: and insight from the guys who are on the field,
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: TJ Watt, Cam Hayward, Jalen Ramsey and company. It's, it's
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: fantastic what this veteran team is doing when things get
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: thick late in games in the fourth quarter.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Again, I don't know that you're going to be able
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: to keep up numbers.
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: That are that dominant throughout the season, but Hey, let's,
• 44:06
  Speaker 5: let's keep it going at least against the Browns. You know, it,
• 44:09
  Speaker 5: Or if those numbers do change, Ed, let's hope it's
• 44:12
  Speaker 5: because the Steelers get out to a big lead and
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: they can play a little bit softer, keep things in
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: front of you. Garbage time stuff, it would affect the stats, obviously,
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: but I wouldn't mind it.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: If that's the way this script goes.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: The second half, fourth quarter stat that we just talked
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: about is supportive of what we've talked about all week
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: long here, that this defense in 2026 is They bend,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: but they don't break. So you're watching the game on Sunday,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: and the other team does move the ball on them,
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: specifically in the air. Not so much running the ball.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: We went over those numbers. But there's that dink and
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: dunk going on. But when they have to make a play,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: they make a play. And when they have to keep
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: the team out of the end zone and have them
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: settle for three, they do. That's been one theme through
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: seven games so far this season for the most part, Brian.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: you're not seeing teams come out and score four or
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: five touchdowns, 28, 35 points, and you're thinking to yourself,
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: this is the worst stealer defense in a long time.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: You are seeing yardage accumulating throughout the course of a
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: game by an opposing offense.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: But when they have to make a play, they do.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: And a lot of times they keep the team out
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: of the end zone and they have to settle for three.
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: And I think all of these keys on defense for
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: the Steelers boil down to really one key at the
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: end of the day.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: You've got to tackle.
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: You've got to tackle the football. They've been better at
• 45:23
  Speaker 5: it since the first meeting with the Browns. But guys
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: like Quinshawn Judkins, Casey Concepcion, Harold Fannin, I don't think
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: we've even mentioned him in this segment. They are tough
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: to bring down. So if you're the Steelers, you need
• 45:37
  Speaker 5: to just keep doing what you've been doing.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Wrap it up.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: I know sometimes it's probably a little bit of a
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: give and take. You're trying to punch the ball out
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: and get takeaways.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But man, you.
• 45:46
  Speaker 5: Can't let that come at the expense of getting a
• 45:49
  Speaker 5: guy to the ground versus keeping a drive alive or worse,
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: getting to the end zone.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Whenever we come back, we're going to talk with Ashley Bastock,
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Brown's team reporter for Cleveland.com. But first, this is the
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Steelers report on SNR, part of the Steelers audio network.