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Brandon Holthaus: Open Rebellion Against God’s Law And Order · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Friends, family in Christ, a lot to get to today.
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  Let's jump right in with our guest, Brandon Holthaus, from Southern California.
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  Now, I want to give you his website, Brandon Holthaus.com, also over on YouTube.
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  You can look up Brandon Holthaus Ministries and he's got a book, eternal crowns ruling
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  and reigning with Messiah.
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  So brother, thank you so much for taking the time to lock in with us today.
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  Let's do this.
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  My pleasure.
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  Good to be with you, David.
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  Yes.
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  Thanks, brother.
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  So much to talk about.
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  Here we got on, I appreciate your voice and all that you're doing from going over and
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  helping the IDF and your pro, you know, Bible prophecy and Israel and church engagement
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  in our culture.
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  And that's one of the most disappointing things in this season that we're in.
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  So could you just start right there and how the church, there's so many, since the assassination
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  of Charlie Kirk, what's happening in Iran, the lawlessness in Minnesota, there's so many
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  opportunities for the church to be a voice and speak up and be a light.
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  Just talk about why that's not happening.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I call it the sin of silence, David.
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  And it's on all the issues, whether we're talking about Israel or we're talking about
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  crazy bills that Californians passing that you take away parental rights.
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  But here's the recent thing that I have encountered.
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  And this would, this shocks me and this makes me upset.
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  There's massive persecution going on in third world countries of Christians, primarily
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  Nigeria.
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  And in Nigeria, I talked to one of the main guys that's trying to help the Nigerian Christians
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  and their judge saw of equipping the persecuted, that's his organization's name.
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  And he tells me that 35 Nigerian Christians are being killed by Muslims daily, daily.
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  And so we're trying to get the word out or trying to raise money to help him and we're
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  doing our part.
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  But they didn't know what judge told me.
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  He told me that he had approached a lot of mega churches to get help and solicit help
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  and that they would put this in front of their congregation.
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  Let them know that their brothers and sisters are being killed and to raise money for them
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  for protection and whatnot.
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  And they didn't went to Christian musicians and did the same thing.
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  And guess what their response was?
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  They didn't want anything to do with it.
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  In fact, what he is, what he told me that the mega church has said, they told them one
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  mega church told them said, well, that upsets Becky and he goes, who's Becky?
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  And he goes, Becky is the prototypical mother of two that comes to our church and she
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  doesn't want to hear anything that upsets her.
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  So killing the congregation that Christians are getting killed would upset so-called Becky.
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  And that's why they said they didn't want to even talk about it.
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  David, I'm out of my mind thinking, what happened to the church?
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  So it doesn't even want to talk about Christian persecution for goodness sake.
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  Yeah, I'm giving the book chapter in verse on that where you're we're not supposed to
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  talk about these issues.
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  That's so it's not surprising, I guess, I annoying the American, the state of the American
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  church, but it's very disappointing.
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  And church leaders will answer to God.
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  They will stand before God there.
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  They were going to incur a stricter judgment.
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  And that's just so sad, Brandon.
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  By the way, Nigeria, where's black lives matter?
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  Exactly, where's all the women's live?
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  Where's black lives matter with these like 35 a day, David, 35 a day, it's a slaughterhouse
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  and the Nigerian government is covering everything up, they're pretending this is not happening
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  and why?
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  Because I can tell you why, the narrative is Islamic and they do not want a bad mouth
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  at Islam in not only the media, but in politics and around the world, and here's the interesting
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  thing, David, as an example of protecting the Islam, I was in Australia with remnant
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  believers just last week.
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  And obviously the Bondi Beach massacre happened when two Islamic guys killed the Jewish people
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  celebrating Hanukkah.
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  You know what Anthony Albanese did from the Prime Minister's office in Australia?
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  He comes out with a hate speech law against preachers.
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  So do the map, how do, how does Islamic guys kill Jews and Australia targets Christian
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  preachers?
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  I don't know how that happens, but again, it's part of the same narrative we're seeing
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  all through the West, David.
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  How about Isaiah 520?
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  Totally.
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  Totally.
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  Yeah.
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  So let's briefly go over to Iran, because you mentioned a slaughter of Christians and
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  just citizens, people in Nigeria, well, I just got another email, we're hearing a lot
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  of this, at least from conservative outlets or Christian outlets.
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  The mainstream media punted on this.
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  They're so irresponsible and biased and propaganda driven, but we can help the persecuted
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  Christians in Iran.
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  You know, there's a slaughter going on there right now.
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  Some leftist outlets are covering this, but very few, but we forget, there's an underground
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  church there.
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  There are believers there that are suffering.
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  And another opportunity for the church in America to speak up and speak light and truth
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  into this.
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  Go ahead and share whatever you'd like about Iran and what's going on there.
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  Oh, David, the numbers are astounding.
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  The last numbers I heard.
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  There's over a million, a million Christians at least that they know are underground.
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  And here's the interesting thing about this.
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  How did the gospel get to these people in a, in a Muslim controlled, Shia controlled area
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  that's very tight and doesn't allow Christianity to exist, really, that it came through dreams
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  and visions.
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  It's the third most way people in Iran are getting saved is through dreams and visions
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  of the Messiah and they get saved.
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  And so this underground movement is right there, but the problem is it's Shia Islam and
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  they're being put down so they have to be underground.
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  And so this is my thing on a geopolitical level.
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  I want regime change in Iran because that's what the Shia Islamic state is doing to Christians
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  there.
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  It's massive persecution.
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  And now, you know, we're hearing all these reports of people getting killed, I just regular
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  Iranians, but Christians are being lumped in this as well and being killed.
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  And hey, man, we're drawing some red lines.
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  I think we need to pony up and do something about this.
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  These guys are not to be trusted.
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  They're not only going to attack Israel and they've proven the old attack Israel, but these
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  guys won't stop enriching uranium.
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  And so Trump has made a red line, but I wish Trump would make a red line saying you got
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  to stop killing Christians and just to Iranian people or else we'll do something.
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  I understand we're sending a fleet over there, but something's got to stop this.
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  This is ridiculous.
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  And we've got to report this.
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  Why am I not hearing this on just regular media?
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  I don't, well, it's there's the spirit of delusion.
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  There's other things.
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  Other factors going on, but I don't get it either because these, isn't that a human
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  rights issue?
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  You have to think about politics, right?
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  Right.
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  Hasn't had to do with politics.
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  But when it comes to Christian persecution, they just don't want to report on it.
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  And especially again, here's the other narrative.
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  It's Islamic.
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  And so we don't want to paint Islamic into, you know, being a bad religion, look, a man
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  I'm done with that.
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  80% of a persecution that's happening in the world is from Islam.
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  That's the reality.
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  That's the fact and open doors website is has all the stats on that.
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  Well, I'm sorry if that upsets the narrative about, about Islam being a religion of peace.
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  I'm sorry.
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  You don't buy it anymore.
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  Pastor Brandon, I do want to get to Trump's board of peace and have just share your thoughts
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  on that and help, help us understand a little bit more about that.
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  But before we do, I think there's another thing in play and that's the red green axis,
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  which is very interesting here.
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  You've got the communists and the Islamists.
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  Such bad fellows, but teaming up, it seems to be a spirit of the anti-Christ, but talk
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  to us a little bit about what you see and what you understand and happening there.
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  That, David, that's exactly what's happening.
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  Trevor Lowen is the first one I think I came out with this concept, you know, and it's
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  proven itself.
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  That's what's happening in Minnesota.
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  That's what's happening in America.
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  That's why they got the Venezuela guy, Maduro out of there because there was a communist
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  takeover over the and try and take over the entire West here and using Islam as the
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  battering realm to destroy the West, destroy Christianity and destroy the Jews.
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  That's what's happening in the UK.
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  That's what's happening in Australia and here in America, but that is legit, man.
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  And so this is a weird combination, but yet we see the combination, David, culminate
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  in one person with Mamdami being elected, the mayor of New York, our financial capital,
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  and the guy is a self-eviled communist and an Islamist who wants worldwide jihad or Infatada
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  I said.
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  I mean, and I'm like, well, yeah, it's not even hiding.
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  And then I start finding out in your neck of the woods in Minnesota area that some of these
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  guys from Newsmax revealed that some of these organizations are actually funding the protesters
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  in Minnesota and they have socialistic Marxists, it's communist ties.
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  It's right there in front of us and people don't want to see what's staring in front of them.
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  We have the red grain access to destroy the West.
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  Yep.
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  And this has been brewing for a long time.
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  Even before Islam was more influential here in America and mosques started going up and
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  even red states, very briefly, I don't want to get off track, but in 2010 when our governor
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  Scott Walker was being recalled, there were these massive protests at the Madison State
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  Capital, the Wisconsin State Capital in Madison.
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  There were tables set up for the socialist party USA.
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  We had teachers unions and then their teachers and classrooms, you know, leaving school
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  and they're putting up the communist fists, solidarity, right?
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  This was all happening right here in Wisconsin and that was all pro socialism, pro communism
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  or at least communist policy because you don't have to label everybody a communist, but if
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  they're supporting certain policies, let's call it out.
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  But we're seeing even more brewing across the country, particularly in blue states, but
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  not limited to blue states or cities.
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  Since we're talking about this area now in Minnesota, let's talk briefly about
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  I just read this headline now, this is days old now, but Pam Bondy and federal officials
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  have made at least three arrests in connection with a protest that disrupted a Sunday morning
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  service, a church service in St. Paul.
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  And she said clearly on social media, many messages they put out praise God for the
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  Trump administration and what they're doing.
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  But she said, listen, loud and clear, we do not tolerate attacks on places of worship.
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  And do you think this is going to spread?
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  Did that send a message?
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  Are we going to see more of this?
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  Well, my thing is, yes, because this is not a grassroots organization.
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  This is well coordinated.
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  And now I can't remember the guy Clay Rigby or something like that from Newsmax busted
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  loose and said he went on signal and found that this was coordinated.
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  They're calling shots of when to raid and when to hinder ICE agents.
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  So now we know it's not a grassroots movement.
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  They had intentionally went into that church because somehow they said that the pastor
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  had some type of ties with ICE or I don't know.
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  But anyway, they stormed into a church and Don Lemon is filming the whole thing and he
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  just acted like he was an accident that he got involved, but yet he is filming an interview
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  in the pastor.
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  And I want to say, hey, Don Lemon said, well, this is free speech.
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  We can do this.
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  It's like, no, you can't.
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  The face act of 1994 prevents you.
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  Free speech is not allowed into a church service to you to barge in and do this.
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  Well, my thing is, if they're going to do it this one church, they're going to try to
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  do it at other ones and this is not over.
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  I don't understand why this church didn't have security in this day and time, but they
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  should.
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  But this is not over.
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  This is well coordinated.
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  This is for all visual effect.
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  It's so that you can, they want to provoke someone to take action against them.
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  They would like it more than anything for to broke us into violence and then they get
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  shot or something like that.
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  So I don't think this is over, David.
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  Yep.
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  Two things.
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  You don't see them going into a mosque and be second, do you know of a name or an organization
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  that trains and equips Christian churches for an attack?
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  Like, are you familiar with it because that needs to happen across the country at churches
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  to get security.
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  If you do let me know maybe afterwards or if you know something now, just share because
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  pastors and we need to, since the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we're in a different time
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  and season in America.
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  And there basically we saw the effect and the reaction of a lot on the left and a lot
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  of demoniacs celebrating the murder of a Christian for just free speech that we're in an interesting
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  time.
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  Aren't we?
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  Well, yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  And look, there'll be copycats to this.
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  Well, if they can do it, I can do it.
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  But look at this.
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  The other thing is that people are not watching about church shootings or just going after
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  people like Charlie Kirk or whatever.
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  There has been a significant amount of transgenders that have shot up Christian schools or churches
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  or whatnot and no one's paying attention to this.
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  And so they are burying this under the carpet.
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  But there's something going on with the mental illness issues.
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  And then why do we have so many transgender shooting up?
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  The guy who shot Charlie Kirk was protecting so called his transgender lover or whatever
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  and who was a furry pretending to be a guy or a girl.
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  I can't remember which, but there was all that mixed up into it and no one wants to
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  talk about that.
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  But there's something there's a tagline watching this as we watch these people taking full
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  shots on Christians.
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  We call Tyler Robinson's lover transgender, but let's back up a little bit.
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  If there are two heterosexual males or just two males and they're in a romantic relationship
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  is it, aren't they gay?
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  But we call the guy transgender anyway, we have to take a brief pause with Pastor Brandon
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  So Pastor Brandon, before we talk about Trump's Board of Peace, let's stay in Minnesota just
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  for a few more minutes and help me understand the hypocrisy of the left protecting criminals
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  and the media, I guess, either cheering that on or not reporting the truth about what
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  is really happening and the fact that the Obama administration and Biden, they deported
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  more illegal aliens than Trump.
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  I mean, it's not even close.
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  Let me understand the cover-up of hypocrisy here that we're not seeing and we won't.
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  Well, I think we have to take a step back because there's anyone in their right mind thinking
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  they're going to protect a rapist, child molester, criminal illegal aliens.
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  That's insane.
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  But so to me, it seems to be because we're finding out that this is a coordinated effort and
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  there's two things I want to keep in mind.
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  Number one, the timing of this, when the Minnesota fraud that got unearthed by the Somalis is
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  happening at the same time.
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  So, oh, we have a distraction and the same thing, Elon Omar gets shot in the face with some
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  due with a syringe of apple cider vinegar or something to take the heat off of her because
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  all of a sudden she goes from rags to riches with $30 million that can't be accounted for.
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  So you have the timing of this is suspicious.
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  And then at the same time, then, is what are you guys trying to do?
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  Are you fomenting an insurrection because observers who have dealt with insurrections are
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  looking at this saying it has all the markers of a color revolution.
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  It's got guys who are marking, they're following license plates.
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  There's coordinates through signal telling the people, hey, ice agents are in your area,
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  start hindering them.
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  There's a whole coordinated effort going on here.
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  So are we watching really people defend criminal illegals or is this a color revolution or
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  a distraction from what the Minnesota fraud has done?
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  I'm not sure, but at least I'm my hang my hat on those two things.
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  Yeah.
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  Smoke screen.
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  Yeah, who knows?
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  There's so much going behind the scenes that we don't understand.
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  Christian back up and understand the root of this.
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  It is a spiritual battle.
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  There is the Holy Spirit and there are demonic spirits.
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  And we are seeing this warfare playing out in real time.
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  We just need to know how to respond.
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  Always continue to speak the truth and share the gospel.
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  But we need to know how to respond to some of these things and understand what's going on.
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  So can we transition now clumsily maybe to a Trump's board of peace?
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  Is this, do you think this is like an attempt to undermine the UN?
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  I know it started with talks of doing something in Gaza, but that really didn't materialize.
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  What can you tell us about this?
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  And is it a good thing?
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  Well, let's start with this.
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  I don't want to demonize Trump in many ways.
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  I think this is wrong on his part.
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  I like a lot of the other stuff that Trump has done.
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  But the problem is, and you know it, David, when you start dividing the land, you're going
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  against Scripture.
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  You're going, you cannot take control of Jewish land.
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  And I get it.
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  You want to get it out of the hands of the international organization.
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  You want to get out of the hands of Hamas or whoever, you know, the Palestinian authority.
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  I get that.
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  But we got to give it back to Israel.
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  Israel's got to control their own land because you can't divide the land.
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  That's against Joel, chapter three and the land covenant you see along with Abraham
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  at covenant in Genesis 15.
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  So the land belongs to Israel.
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  But the problem is Trump sees things from a financial standpoint.
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  He thinks he can run the whole thing better than obviously Hamas or the UN.
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  And I get that.
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  But he's violating that and I wish he wouldn't.
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  And so when you start looking on this board of peace and who he's got on there, that's
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  another cause of alarm.
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  And that's my secondary problem with it.
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  You've got Steve Whitkopf and Jared Kushner on there.
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  You have Muslims from other countries on this board of peace.
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  And then you're starting to invite the pope on there.
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  Along with Tony Blair, who's nothing but a globalist, holy smokes.
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  This is a pulperry of the people who should not be running gossip.
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  Okay.
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  So let's turn to Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkopf as an example.
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  Those guys have no business in the Middle East because why they're compromised.
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  Jared Kushner and Steve Whitkopf have taken millions and millions of dollars from Saudi
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  Arabia and Qatar in their investment firms.
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  And they've even Qatar has bailed out Steve Whitkopf's New York place that he went belly
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  up on.
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  And they bought it up for like 650 million dollars.
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  So both guys are compromised by Qatar, who's the leading terrorist funder in the entire
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  planet.
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  And do we really trust Saudi Arabia?
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  Do they cut up Khashoggi into pieces when they win against them?
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  So these are some mean dudes.
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  So and then at the top of it, you're going to invite the pope.
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  The pope.
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  Are you serious?
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  And he's going to run Gaza.
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  Well, that's exactly what the Catholic Church has been wanting to do all the time.
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  They want to run Israel.
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  They want to run Jerusalem and want to make Jerusalem an international place for all
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  peace.
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  Of course you do.
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  So David, from just the wrongness of Trump trying to control a piece of Israel to let's
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  look at the board members, holy smokes.
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  This is terrible.
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  This is going to land you into the judgment of God for something like this.
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  And that's what I'm afraid of because what happens?
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  Bill Cainig did a great book called Eye to Eye and Chronicle.
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  Every time you divide the land of Israel, something bad would happen to America, whether
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  it's the economy, a storm, whatever, any chronicle this.
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  I remember that.
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  Yes, and it was a while back, but I'm going to make the same argument.
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  You mess with Israel and that land.
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  And that land grant has been given to the Jewish people, not the United States or anyone
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  else to manage.
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  And then you're going to not expect the Abrahamic foreign policy.
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  I will bless those who bless you.
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  I will curse those who curse you.
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  And then on top of this, David, you're going to make it a technocratic place.
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  You're going to bring in the technocrats and they're going to make this a technocratic
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  thing.
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  Well, what do you mean?
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  You're going to make this a, you know, the French Riviera.
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  It's going to be like the new Dubai and we're going to have the technocrats run this.
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  Wait a second, David, you know about the technocratic agenda.
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  It's globalistic.
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  If you've had Patrick Wood on your show, you know exactly what the technocrats like
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  Sam, Al Altman and all of them want to do.
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  They're basically creating a beast system to control the entire planet.
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  And we're going to have the technocrats run Gaza.
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  We're still stepping our way to the beast system through all of this.
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  That's really where it's going, David.
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  And so boy, howdy, there's a lot of red flags here, man.
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  Yeah.
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  What could go wrong?
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  Had Patrick Wood on a few weeks ago and we talked a little bit about that.
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  It's just, there's just so much.
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  And I think I said this earlier, Christians, human beings are not meant to know everything,
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  keep up with everything.
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  But I've always said since what's happened last year, kicking off 2026, I think one of
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  the words of the year for the church is discernment.
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  I think we really need to be discerning and understand the times and know how to respond,
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  like the men of Instacar.
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  So branded, the media is not helping.
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  Where do people get truthful, accurate information?
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  Because just for one example, I follow the media research center and I just looked at this
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  one study, 93% of coverage by ABCCBS and NBC about ICE was negative, 93%.
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  And the same thing about Trump, same thing about a Republican administration.
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  This has gone on for decades.
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  But now this controlling of the narrative and shaping, not reporting the news, shaping
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  public opinion, we're seeing some of the fruit of that now, aren't we?
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  Unfortunately, yes.
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  And so David, my, my admonition is to people is find the legitimate news sources like your
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  show and other shows that they can trust and get their news from there because I can
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  tell you the big problem.
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  The big problem is not just the alphabet media groups.
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  Social media, the majority of people are getting their information for social media.
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  And most of that is unverified, David.
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  And so, and by the way, what they don't realize that on social media, whether it's X or
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  its Instagram or it's TikTok or whatever, there have an algorithm that's creating an
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  addiction to you and actually create stories to make you hostile.
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  So let me explain a little bit how that works.
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  They'll throw up three hostile stories, like a polar opposites of someone that would
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  make you just absolutely insanely mad.
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  And then they'll throw in a cat video or a dog rescue.
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  And then they throw back to you another one that just boils your blood and what they're
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  doing is, is they're actually getting you hooked on the social media and whipping you
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  up into a frenzy to where you actually will be violent and hostile.
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  And that's actually going on in social media.
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  My admonition, get off of social media.
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  You don't even know what's credible on there anymore because they're doing that to you
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  on purpose and stop spreading unverified stories.
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  David, I'm losing people in my church because they're listening to crazy Candace Owens and
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  listening to Tucker Carlson, give a bunch of nonsense out there and they believe them
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  rather than their own pastor.
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  And I'm like, what have we not been telling you about Israel and you want to believe
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  the Masad killed Charlie?
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  You want to believe Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens that Charlie Kirk was a time traveler?
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  What are you talking about?
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  And that's because of social media, David.
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  And they're going down rabbit holes and I'm losing people because of the rabbit holes.
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  These are excellent points, by the way.
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  And I want to emphasize the fact, I mean, we didn't even talk about AI and how we're seeing
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  stuff that's generated.
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  People aren't even behind some of this.
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  But I'm seeing a lot of dog rescue because I love dogs and I have three.
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  I'm seeing a lot of those come up and then I see some of the stuff that I, if I wasn't
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  a Christian and or did not have the spirit in the fruit of self control, I would be like,
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  you need a, you know, looking at the screen really upset.
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  But, you know, Christians, we have to understand this is a setup.
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  Don't fall for it.
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  Decept, don't fall for the deception, Brandon, we could do another two or three shows with
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  you.
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  But thank you.
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  So your book, your book is on Amazon.
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  Is that the best place for people to get eternal crowns, by the way?
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  Yeah, Amazon's probably the best easiest to get.
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  It's there.
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  And a second volume is coming out in the rest of the rewards, eternal rewards coming out
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  this spring.
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  So yeah, be looking for that.
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  We're going to have to have you on and talk about it, brother.
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  Can we do that?
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  You betcha.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  All right.
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  Thank you so much for your time and for all you do.
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  You betcha.
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  We'll do it again.
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  Thank you Dave for everything.
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  Thanks for being in the fight.
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  You bet.
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  We will keep fighting the good fight together.
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  Lord willing, we'll make some progress this year.
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  We are here for a reason.
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  Father, thank you so much for guiding the podcast and for, again, equipping the saints
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  using us for your glory.
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  We so appreciate everything that you're doing in our ministries and Brandon's ministry.
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  So praise you, Lord.
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  Friends, God bless you and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.