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Normally Podcast: California's Political Shake-Up, Spencer Pratt's Surprise Surge & Media Meltdowns at CBS · Normally

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, I'm back on Normally, the show with normalist
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Speaker 1: takes for when the news gets weird.
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Speaker 2: I am Mary Cassen.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Carol Markowitz. How are you, Mary Catherine. We
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Speaker 3: hosted a party together last night.
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Speaker 2: We did, and it was fun.
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was a good crowd, fun times.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I thought it was really some of my favorite
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Speaker 3: people in the conservative world. You can look on our
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Speaker 3: socials for more information on who was there, but it
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Speaker 3: was really just like the exact crowd that I hope
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Speaker 3: to see when I'm in DC for like eighteen hours.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was awesome.
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Speaker 1: Congrats to Buck Sexton on his book yep, New York
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Speaker 1: Times bestselling writer.
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Speaker 3: Right, and you know the half of the Clay Travis
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Speaker 3: and Buck Sexton podcast network on which you are listening
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Speaker 3: to this fabulous show.
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Speaker 2: Yes, very cool to see him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, let's get into it. While we were
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Speaker 3: there last night, a bunch of elections happened around the country.
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Speaker 3: Of course, California election really didn't come in until today,
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Speaker 3: so we didn't miss that much. But California held its
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Speaker 3: jungle primaries and for governor, and right now, Steve Hilton
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Speaker 3: and Xavier Bussera look like they are going to be
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Speaker 3: the two the get out of the primary. Tom Steyer
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Speaker 3: is a distant third. Of course, final results could take
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Speaker 3: days or weeks because California counts mail ballots after election day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly a good sign that Hilton is leading.
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Speaker 2: It's first in the.
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Speaker 3: That's right right now.
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Speaker 1: And you and I have said from the beginning, we
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Speaker 1: noted that we loved the positive branding of this campaign,
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Speaker 1: that I thought there were a significant number of people
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Speaker 1: in California who have had it with the one party rule,
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Speaker 1: with the failures all over the state. He is well spoken,
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Speaker 1: he is photogenic, intelligenic, and he was very calm in
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Speaker 1: the debate where they were all going at each other,
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Speaker 1: and he's just hanging out there with his lovely accent
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Speaker 1: given you know, a little sly daggers to everyone. And
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Speaker 1: I very much enjoyed seeing him succeed. And I am
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Speaker 1: very hopeful that those late ballots don't do anything to
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Speaker 1: mess with the standing so that we can have at
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Speaker 1: least a choice Californias out there, sanity out there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. He and his victory speech last night,
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Speaker 3: or in his you know, moving on to the next
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Speaker 3: round speech I don't know what they call it, this
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Speaker 3: kind of thing. He gave a little credit to another
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Speaker 3: former Republican governor with an accent, Arnold Schwarzenegger. I thought
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Speaker 3: that was pretty cool. And then he showed the inside
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Speaker 3: of his jacket which had the American flag because Steve
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Speaker 3: Hilton is British or was British. I guess he's American. Now, yeah,
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Speaker 3: the American and he had the California flag on the
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Speaker 3: other side of his jacket, and it was it was
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Speaker 3: just very cool to watch. Our friend Charles Cook points
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Speaker 3: out that Tom Styer, who again came in third. He's
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Speaker 3: a billionaire, spent a ton of money on this race.
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Speaker 3: Cook says, tom Steyer keeps running around saying that it's
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Speaker 3: unfair that billionaires like him can buy our democracy, then
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Speaker 3: spending hundreds of million dollars to do just that, then
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Speaker 3: failing to get elected, and then repeating all the same
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Speaker 3: lines the next time around. It's extremely funny. It is
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Speaker 3: exactly what he does. He's like, rich guys like me
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Speaker 3: shouldn't be able to buy our way into this, and
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Speaker 3: then he's incapable of.
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Speaker 2: Buying his You can't.
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Speaker 3: It turns out you cannot actually.
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Speaker 1: Also good news from that jungle primary that Eric Swalwell
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Speaker 1: is off in the wilderness somewhere and Katie Porter I
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Speaker 1: was the vicious representative in California who abuses her staff
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Speaker 1: and her former husband.
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Speaker 2: I believe four percent of the vote.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.
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Speaker 2: I like that.
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Speaker 3: Then in LA we've been following that election obviously very closely.
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Speaker 3: Spencer Pratt has been a phenomenon. He came in second
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Speaker 3: to Karen Bass, who is in first right now, again
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Speaker 3: this is all right now, but he seems to be
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Speaker 3: in solid second and also moving on and Karen Bess,
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Speaker 3: who is the current mayor, is in first, and then
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Speaker 3: Nythia Rahman is in third. She had been in pole
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Speaker 3: position to win this thing, and then she had a
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Speaker 3: disastrous debate where Spencer Pratt ran away with that debate
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Speaker 3: and it really shook up the race. Debates often make
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Speaker 3: no difference, but this is a case of it made
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Speaker 3: a lot of difference in this one.
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Speaker 1: Well, I think because the proposition of Spencer Pratt is
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Speaker 1: I'm an outsider. I could do something different, but people
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Speaker 1: were like, yeah, but you are a reality star, and
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Speaker 1: we're kind of doing that over here, and we're not
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Speaker 1: really sure about it. Yeah, and then he went on
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Speaker 1: the stage and he sounded like a person who could
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Speaker 1: do things.
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Speaker 2: Nythia Rahman, for what it's.
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Speaker 1: Worth, gave what sounded like a concession speech last night
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Speaker 1: because she was crying throughout her little I'm not moving
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Speaker 1: on to the next round. So it seems to me
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Speaker 1: that maybe she knows that the votes aren't there to
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Speaker 1: overcome the lead that he had, which is about eight
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Speaker 1: or nine points at that point. It'll change because California
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Speaker 1: does things in a has horrible.
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Speaker 3: Way, terrible elections and doesn't know what they're doing. Let's
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Speaker 3: hear a very short clip from Spencer Pratt last night
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Speaker 3: where he's like, I've already won. Obviously y'all wanted five
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Speaker 3: more months of me exposing all the failures of our mayor.
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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a fun ride. I hope she's ready.
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Speaker 4: Are you ready?
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Speaker 5: I was born?
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Speaker 3: But it's clearly I love it. That clip is actually
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Speaker 3: a little too short, because he does go on to say,
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Speaker 3: now he has five more months of putting together a
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Speaker 3: team taking this seriously. In that clip, it sounds like
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Speaker 3: he's saying, I've got five more months to get on
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Speaker 3: her nerves, and then she wins and hopefully makes changes.
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Speaker 3: Look is he going to win. He's been a long
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Speaker 3: shot this whole time. The fact that he came in
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Speaker 3: second to move on is kind of a miracle in LA.
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Speaker 3: That's how bad things have gotten that they're considering a
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Speaker 3: reality star that they want to hate so badly but
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Speaker 3: can't because they know that he's right, and that drug
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Speaker 3: addicts are hanging out in front of their schools, and
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Speaker 3: they know that he's right. The crime has gotten out
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Speaker 3: of control, and they know that he's right that all
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Speaker 3: the other politicians have done absolutely nothing about it. So
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Speaker 3: this is where LA finds itself. I think that in
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Speaker 3: any other election he wouldn't have had a chance, but
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Speaker 3: things have gotten bad enough that he's able to present
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Speaker 3: the everyman case. And of course his house famously burnt down,
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Speaker 3: Karen Best didn't do anything about that. There are others
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Speaker 3: like him in the same situation, feeling that, and he's
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Speaker 3: really tapped into something well.
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Speaker 1: I analogize him a little bit to open schools moms
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Speaker 1: who were radicalized and maybe weren't super political, but we're
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Speaker 1: willing to upon being betrayed by their public face officials,
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Speaker 1: and this public good destroyed in front of their faces
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Speaker 1: and being lied.
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Speaker 2: To about it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like, maybe I would consider some other options,
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Speaker 1: and they did all sorts of things like get into
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Speaker 1: politics and vote the other way. And he's a wildfire
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Speaker 1: dad house burned down and he was like, now I'm
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Speaker 1: mad about this. And as you remember from the open
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Speaker 1: schools moms, he knows stuff because he knows he's going
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Speaker 1: to get hard questions about the fire, and he knows
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Speaker 1: backwards and forwards every report and every accounting on this
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Speaker 1: so that he can rehearse it, so he can repeat
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Speaker 1: it chapter and verse to everybody.
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Speaker 2: And that has been a strength for him.
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Speaker 1: And I do think the question always with Trump voters
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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen was are there quiet Trump voters?
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Speaker 2: There are certainly quiet Spencer Prap voters.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, in that place of ideological conformity, there are quiet preps.
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Speaker 3: Right where you dare not step out of line. And
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Speaker 3: a lot of his ads focus on that, like it's like,
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Speaker 3: you know, Pilate's moms being like, I'm not a MAGA supporter,
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Speaker 3: but I am voting for Spencer Pratt or the dads
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Speaker 3: standing around they're all AI, it's amazing. But he talks
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Speaker 3: about that he says, you can do it, and there
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Speaker 3: are others like you, and maybe you guys will all
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Speaker 3: do it together. CNN interviewed this voter yesterday. This is
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Speaker 3: such a great clip where they are just shocked to
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Speaker 3: find out that Democrats might vote for Spencer Pratt. They
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Speaker 3: Democrat are voting for Spencer Pratt. Yes, why is that?
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Speaker 4: I do like his approach for the homelessness. As a
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Speaker 4: person who's to be homeless myself, I was rendered the
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Speaker 4: services that he's talking about. I was able to change
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Speaker 4: my life ten years sober with no alcohol and stuff
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Speaker 4: like that, So his approach is really good. I do
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Speaker 4: think it's fair for him to go off with the
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Speaker 4: runoff with Karen Bass. This way, both of them can
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Speaker 4: go ahead and prove to me why they deserve my vote.
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Speaker 4: So as of today, I'm doing it, yes, because I
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Speaker 4: do like his approach and I do think he deserves
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Speaker 4: a fair chance. But come November it could be different.
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Speaker 1: Really interesting how many people are animated one way or
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Speaker 1: not really interesting.
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Speaker 3: It is very interesting how animated people are one way
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Speaker 3: or another. Find me an animated Karen Bass photer.
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Speaker 2: Please.
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Speaker 1: One ms NOW correspondent did a little bit and I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to exactly quote it, but I'll paraphrase.
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Speaker 2: It was something along the lines.
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Speaker 1: Of, you know, this is sort of nefarious. He's alleging
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Speaker 1: that it's an nefarious sort of populism, wherein Spencer Pratt
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Speaker 1: talks about obvious problems and how to solve them, and
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I got news for you that nefarious populism
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Speaker 1: could really work. I'm not sure if people are convinced
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Speaker 1: that that is a problem to talk about the problems
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Speaker 1: elsewhere in California. I just wanted to note a little
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Speaker 1: dummy mandering the new California sixth, yeah, which Kevin Kylie
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be drawn out of in a Democrat
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Speaker 1: into In that primary, Kevin Kylie became an independent and
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Speaker 1: he finished first, the Republican finished second, and the Democrat
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Speaker 1: finished third last night, So it maybe that you have
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Speaker 1: a Republican and a right leaning independent fighting each other
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Speaker 1: for California sixth, which was not what Newsom.
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Speaker 3: Envisioned, right right, Well, that's the thing when you over Jerrymander,
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Speaker 3: You're going to leave some districts like that and you
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Speaker 3: risk it. So what else happened last night? New Jersey elected,
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Speaker 3: well didn't elect, but the Democrats chose him as their
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Speaker 3: standard bearer, and it's a very left leaning district, so
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Speaker 3: he's probably going to win. A super far left Democrat
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Speaker 3: who is connected to Al Qaeda. And here is our
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Speaker 3: friend Guy Benson to tell us about him.
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Speaker 6: He had Annie McCarthy on my radio show just recently.
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Speaker 6: Andy was one of the prosecutors who put away the
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Speaker 6: blind Shake, this arch terrorist, mastermind of the first World
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Speaker 6: Trade Center bombing with the goal of murdering thousands of
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Speaker 6: New Yorkers. And the man you just mentioned running for
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Speaker 6: Congress in New Jersey was his interpreter, traveled around with him.
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Speaker 5: Was a confidant, and was a defense witness at that trial.
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Speaker 5: Beyond that, Brian Jewish Insider has reported that same man
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Speaker 5: subsequently went to Bosnia to volunteer for an organization that
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Speaker 5: was later exposed as an al Qaeda front and shut down.
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Speaker 5: This man is a leading candidate for Congress in New Jersey,
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Speaker 5: a state that lost more than seven hundred people on
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Speaker 5: nine to eleven. Are Democrats really going to make someone
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Speaker 5: like this their nominee for the United States Congress?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 3: No, soon, yeah they did. They made him the nominee
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Speaker 3: for Congress in that district and it's really quite pathetic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and really to put just the worst bow on
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Speaker 1: this story, Guy Benson also found out and put it
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Speaker 1: together that the hometown or the place where he raised
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Speaker 1: his family and the final resting place of Todd Let's
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Speaker 1: roll beamer of flight ninety three is in Cranberry, New Jersey,
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Speaker 1: which is in New Jersey twelve, which may very well
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Speaker 1: be and end up being represented in Congress by Adam Hamali,
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Speaker 1: who has all of those al Qaeda connections that we
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Speaker 1: just mentioned.
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Speaker 3: Bananas, It's really really something.
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Speaker 1: You gotta wonder even in a very blue district in
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Speaker 1: Jersey where there were.
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Speaker 2: So many lost.
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Speaker 1: I think there's thirty forty ish from this district alone
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Speaker 1: on nine to eleven.
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Speaker 2: Is there a normy revolt to this.
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Speaker 1: To say you got the D behind your name? But like,
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Speaker 1: I don't think we can do this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not that optimistic on it, but maybe I
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Speaker 3: don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's quite quite a look in the old
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Speaker 1: primaries of the Democrats in a lot of places.
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Speaker 3: The other big story from last night is zach Lane.
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Speaker 3: I believe that's how you pronounce it, even though it's
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Speaker 3: spelled la h and I'm not one hundred percent sure
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Speaker 3: one the Republican nomination for Iowa governor. And this is
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Speaker 3: a big story because Trump endorsed his opponent and the
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Speaker 3: fact that some members of the conservative movement, I know
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Speaker 3: Turning Point Action is taking some credit here. I know
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Speaker 3: Steve Dice, who's a big Iowa radio show guy who
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Speaker 3: has a lot of influence in Iowa elections, also supported Zach.
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Speaker 3: They are all aligned with him. And it's sort of
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Speaker 3: interesting because we've talked about on here. Trump is the
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Speaker 3: ultimate king maker right now, there's absolutely no doubt about that.
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Speaker 3: But sometimes even Donald Trump doesn't get the candidate that
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Speaker 3: he wants.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a break of a streak for him and
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Speaker 1: a lot of these primaries. Iowa went pretty well for
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Speaker 1: Normis in general last night because the Democratic primary for
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Speaker 1: the Senate seat against GOP Representative Ashley Henson, who is
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Speaker 1: very skilled and will do well in this red state.
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Speaker 1: He's a Normy as well, or at least more Normy
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Speaker 1: than many of the people coming out of these primaries.
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Speaker 1: And I believe a paralympic, former wheelchair basketball paralympian with
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Speaker 1: several medals, so those tool face off. So she she
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Speaker 1: she pulled a tough competitor. But this is still quite
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Speaker 1: a red state, even though it has been negatively affected
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Speaker 1: by tariffs on and the Iran war because of fertilizer
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Speaker 1: prices for crops. So that is something that is part
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Speaker 1: of the conversation there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm glad to see like some fairly normally people facing.
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Speaker 3: Off right right, Well, we'll see, if you know, I've
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Speaker 3: heard kind of mixed things about this guy, so I
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Speaker 3: will absolutely stay a little bit more on top of it.
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Speaker 3: I have to admit I was not following this race
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Speaker 3: super closely and just assumed that whoever Trump was picking
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Speaker 3: was going to win. So when I had sort of
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Speaker 3: a lot of mail today about this guy winning, it
14:51
Speaker 3: was surprising. And look, I'm not the only one. Apparently
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Speaker 3: Fox News didn't have a picture ready for him, because
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Speaker 3: it was like who is he and how did the happened?
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Speaker 3: So listen, that happens obviously long shots sometimes when I
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Speaker 3: don't know that he necessarily was a long shot, because
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Speaker 3: it looks like, again, he did have some I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say institutional support, he did have some ruit support. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and he ended up Zach Lane ends up being the
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Speaker 3: Republican candidate for Iowa governor. Okay, we're going to take
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Speaker 3: a short break and be right back with more on Normally.
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Speaker 3: We are back on Normally, where Scott Pelly was the
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Speaker 3: host of sixty minutes and he was largely insufferable. He
15:43
Speaker 3: had so many moments where I think that he could
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Speaker 3: have been fired, and this most recent one, Barry Weise,
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Speaker 3: who now runs CBS, she named Nick Bilton, the executive
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Speaker 3: producer of sixty minutes, and Scott Pelly got into an
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Speaker 3: explosive argument with him in front of everyone, where Bilden
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Speaker 3: tried to kind of talk it down a little bit,
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Speaker 3: get him to calm down. Pelly is used to getting
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Speaker 3: what he wants and he had this huge confrontation with
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Speaker 3: his new boss. People who heard about it on X
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Speaker 3: were all pretty shocked at that Pelly could behave this way,
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Speaker 3: and then a day later he was let go. So
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything crazy here other than the
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Speaker 3: left and Democrats. The left, howe everyone to freeze it,
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Speaker 3: are taking it very very poorly that this allegedly non
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Speaker 3: partisan talking head is no longer there, which is kind
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Speaker 3: of a tell.
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Speaker 1: He made it absolutely impossible for them not to fire him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's active in subordination in front of everyone. And as
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Speaker 1: Bilton's letter to Pelly makes clear, you made very clear
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Speaker 1: that you're not interested in a future of this news
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Speaker 1: program while working with the bosses. And I am amazed
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Speaker 1: at the extent to it, Like, could anyone make this
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Speaker 1: kind of a stink about losing a job under new management,
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Speaker 1: like a reporter or a journalist, because they this is
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Speaker 1: a normal thing. So many people have experienced getting a
17:20
Speaker 1: new boss, Hiring practices change, a couple, people shift around,
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Speaker 1: a couple, people lose their jobs. The philosophy and the
17:28
Speaker 1: management style are different. And you either leave, quit with
17:33
Speaker 1: your dignity and move along with your life, or you
17:37
Speaker 1: stay and do the job right. This isn't a giant trauma.
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Speaker 2: It isn't.
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Speaker 1: He's not the only person on Ears who can do
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Speaker 1: this job. I just find it so bizarre. And the
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Speaker 1: quotes on background, because of course you know they can't
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Speaker 1: come forward. The quotes on background are like, what's it
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Speaker 1: like among the staff? And it was like, uh, like
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Speaker 1: being awake during surgery.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced anything? Have you ever experienced anything?
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Speaker 1: Because I worry for you when something real happens to
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Speaker 1: you other than a management dispute at your very white
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Speaker 1: collar job, because this is crazy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Apparently, Pelly had also said about Weiss, she has
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Speaker 3: no qualifications for her job. The changes that she's made
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Speaker 3: of the Evening News have been catastrophic, so why should
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Speaker 3: we expect that any of this is going to be
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Speaker 3: any better? He said that she was murdering sixty minutes.
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Speaker 3: She was brought in to kill it and is doing
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Speaker 3: exactly that. I mean, these are bananas things to say
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Speaker 3: about your boss's boss, and to say she's got no qualification.
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Speaker 1: True.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she started the Free Press after very famously quitting
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Speaker 3: The New York Times, and by the time that they
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Speaker 3: sold it to Paramount, she had over one and a
18:53
Speaker 3: half million paid subscribers. That is an insane number for
18:58
Speaker 3: something that started as her own personal newsletter. Meanwhile, The
19:03
Speaker 3: New York Times is like holding itself together with like
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Speaker 3: wordal subscriptions. I mean, it is a different universe. And
19:09
Speaker 3: so CBS brought her on because she has proven that
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Speaker 3: she can take an old model and make it fresh
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Speaker 3: and new for our current time, and just people hate
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Speaker 3: her for it and the joke that she's some sort
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Speaker 3: of maga you know, Republican or whatever. It's absurd. Anybody
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Speaker 3: who has read her for a long time knows that
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Speaker 3: she's not at all that, and that they're trying to
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Speaker 3: make her into that because they don't want to make
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Speaker 3: any changes to their little fiefdom. Is really what's going
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Speaker 3: on right here?
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Speaker 1: And kind of tell on themselves, yeah, when they're like, okay,
19:43
Speaker 1: so there's an outlet that's trying something different. And the
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Speaker 1: person who you are trying to convince everyone is the
19:50
Speaker 1: person crossing all these rubicons is a center left Jewish
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Speaker 1: lesbian from New York City. Like that's that's your maga caricature.
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Speaker 1: I also, this is a this is a tactic of
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Speaker 1: the left and turns out over and over again of
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Speaker 1: journalists which I hate, which is to assert that their
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Speaker 1: inability to control their emotions in public validates that something
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Speaker 1: truly extraordinarily.
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Speaker 2: Happen has happened to them.
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Speaker 1: Because I'm having this tantrum, whether I'm on the street
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Speaker 1: corner or in CBS's newsroom, it means someone has violated
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Speaker 1: me in a horrific manner. It's like, actually, no, you
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Speaker 1: could just respond more maturely, right, and that, like you're
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Speaker 1: not validating it.
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Speaker 2: This is like a self angry because.
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Speaker 1: You're super angry.
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Speaker 2: That's not how that works.
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Speaker 1: We like to we can evaluate this situation outside of
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Speaker 1: your emotions, but apparently journalists can't do that, which.
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Speaker 2: By the way, is part of the problem with journalism.
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Speaker 1: And one last thing the quote that he gave the
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Speaker 1: New York Times where he says, I have been in combat.
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, And I mean, like, you know, you haven't.
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Speaker 3: You have covered combat? You have not been in combat.
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Speaker 1: This bothers me because obviously it's incorrect, but it's like
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Speaker 1: it's it's such a picture of the whole problem. It's
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Speaker 1: self aggrandizing. Yeah, it's not true. It's misleading to readers.
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Speaker 1: It makes it seem like he's the hero of the
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Speaker 1: story when in fact, it is dangerous.
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Speaker 2: To go be embedded with sure with soldiers.
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Speaker 1: But the people doing the combat are risking their lives
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Speaker 1: to protect you, so you can tell the story of
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Speaker 1: what they do. And by the way, they sometimes put
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Speaker 1: themselves at more risk because they have a dumb, dumb
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Speaker 1: civilian with them.
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Speaker 2: Okay, like you're not in combat. Oh that got me.
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Speaker 2: I did not like that drama. H I did not
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Speaker 2: like it.
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Speaker 3: And that he didn't have to walk it back at all.
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Speaker 3: Though where is the liberal media to be like, you
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Speaker 3: weren't actually in combat, Like again, it's just unfair that
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Speaker 3: we would have teeth gnashing on the right if somebody
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Speaker 3: said stuff like this, and we do and we have
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Speaker 3: it all the time, and we call out our side
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Speaker 3: and there's nobody to do it over there.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't have a particular issue with
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Speaker 1: Scott Pelly beyond like you know, of course I'm going
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Speaker 1: to disagree with him in general as a member of
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Speaker 1: the mainstream media until his behavior here, which I found
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Speaker 1: so lame, right, and I was like, maybe I should
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Speaker 1: look back upon my cursory understanding of Scott Pelly because
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Speaker 1: I'm unimpressed.
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Speaker 3: Right, people keep mentioning this. I think Emily's a naughty
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Speaker 3: said it, but like sixty Minutes is best known as
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Speaker 3: the show that you accidentally watch because it comes on
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Speaker 3: right after football. Like let's be real here, you know,
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Speaker 3: so trying to save it, God bless him. It needs
22:41
Speaker 3: some changes.
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Speaker 1: Well, and Sharon Alfonsi I'll note, who was one of
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Speaker 1: the other reporters who was like, oh she did that
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Speaker 1: awful pro German speech.
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Speaker 3: Police peace your favorite. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: It was thirteen minutes long and included no rebuttal from
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Speaker 1: anybody who thought free speech was a good idea.
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Speaker 2: It was amazing.
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Speaker 3: Right, and now if we don't let Scott Pelly back
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Speaker 3: into the anchor chair on sixty minutes, free speech is dead. Basically.
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Speaker 2: That's obviously.
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Speaker 3: We're going to take a short break and be right
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Speaker 3: back with one more segment of Normally.
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Speaker 1: All right, guys, we are back on Normally with an
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Speaker 1: in case you missed it, an update from way.
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Speaker 2: Back in twenty twenty one. I don't know if you
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Speaker 2: remember this, Carol, but.
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Speaker 1: There was this story and I remember it the summer
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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one, when people were still kind of
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Speaker 1: losing their minds in the post George Floyd era in Canada,
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Speaker 1: in British Columbia place called Kamloops, where there was an
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Speaker 1: allegation by a First Nations tribe which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: indigenous or what we call Native American tribe in Canada
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Speaker 1: that said they had found evidence of two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifteen some children, yeah, from formerly Catholic schools where Indigenous
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Speaker 1: children were taken in schooled and converted and sometimes abused
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Speaker 1: in mass graves, and this barked obviously, you know, chamationwide
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Speaker 1: reckoning and actually some not a small amount of vandalism
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Speaker 1: and attacks on churches, Catholic churches in response to this,
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Speaker 1: and huge amounts of media coverage. It turns out zero
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Speaker 1: evidence has ever been found ye that there were mass
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Speaker 1: graves there. And that's that is a fact that we
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Speaker 1: have known, like people who watched that story that caught
24:24
Speaker 1: wind of that. But the Globe and Mail in Canada
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Speaker 1: finally wrote an editorial with a lot of throat clearing
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Speaker 1: for the libs. Yeah, yeah, that said, hey, we don't
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Speaker 1: actually have any evidence of this, and we should have
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Speaker 1: and in the future, we should probably check these.
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Speaker 3: Things, probably probably check these things. So that they claimed
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Speaker 3: at the time that they had identified they did use
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Speaker 3: this like special radar to identify the bodies underground, and
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Speaker 3: this special radar, I mean they had numbers. They were like, okay,
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Speaker 3: we found to fifteen potential burial sites near the Kamloops
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Speaker 3: Indian Residential School and the headlines would be like two
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifteen children's remains found. And then it turned
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Speaker 3: out that that didn't happen at all. It's wild how
25:14
Speaker 3: unchecked this kind of thing went on. I'm glad they're
25:17
Speaker 3: finally admitting to it, but so much damage has happened
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Speaker 3: because of it. Churches were vandalized, they were burned. I
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Speaker 3: mean they even just like they had vigils for these
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Speaker 3: people that they allegedly found that and they didn't find anybody.
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Speaker 3: They didn't find a single body.
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Speaker 1: It's it's wild and just the newspaper having to say, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: we didn't have anything zero, right. Yeah, perhaps looking for
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Speaker 1: evidence of an extraordinary claim should be our first step
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Speaker 1: instead of these six years later sort of maya culpa.
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Speaker 1: By the way, it's not a very good maya culpa,
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Speaker 1: because it's like, to be sure, many children were hurt
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Speaker 1: and some killed and perhaps there will be proof one day.
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Speaker 1: It's like, are you hoping that there were mass graves,
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Speaker 1: because that's what its like.
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Speaker 3: We're happy there are no mass graves, Like I just.
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Speaker 1: When you're taken for a ride this many times by
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Speaker 1: the media on the predictable identity based troops they want
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Speaker 1: to take like eventually you just this is the problem
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Speaker 1: with the public trust. By the way, this is also
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Speaker 1: the six year anniversary of the famous public health figure.
26:29
Speaker 1: Yeah press release that gathering to solve racism is good
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Speaker 1: and fine and doesn't spread the virus.
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Speaker 3: Right, it's fine, it's just so important that they don't.
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Speaker 3: You no longer have to stay in. Everybody else who
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to protest against racism, you still have to
26:43
Speaker 3: stay in. However, that's just science.
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Speaker 2: Anniversary of the day my brain broke.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's really a case in case you
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Speaker 3: missed it, and of we're still madro combined in one.
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