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M’s piggyback rotation debate, A’s owner regretful, BIG IL returns, Cubs closer feeling WBC effects? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: You know how they say the ball will find you.
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  Speaker 1: Who's that?
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  Speaker 2: Who's they?
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  Speaker 1: I always say that whose day?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Who is that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, they say, continue it went in Rome, So you'll
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  Speaker 1: like this one. Kratz. Kyle Schwarber played first base yesterday
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  Speaker 1: for the first time since twenty twenty one.
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  Speaker 2: How do you do?
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  Speaker 1: You're playing first so you need to catch the balls
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  Speaker 1: thrown to you. But as far as balls hit his way, none.
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  Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday. Catchers can play anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But now we can squash that ball doesn't always find you.
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  Speaker 3: We'll tell them. Tell them if they say that, tell
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  Speaker 3: them right.
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  Speaker 1: You know how you'll always point out, Oh see they
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  Speaker 1: put them in the outfield for the first time in
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  Speaker 1: an inning. Later, ball hit to him.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, Usually when you put a guy in the
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  Speaker 2: first ground ball goes right to him.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So in this case nothing I'm talking much about him.
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  Speaker 2: Cannot hear crats why I don't know, and he's talking
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  Speaker 2: and I don't hear him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah he would, I'm not saying.
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  Speaker 2: Still the best he's ever sounded.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I am, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: No, I heard everyone else. Oh maybe because gott unplugged
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  Speaker 2: my pack under it.
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  Speaker 1: That's definitely not something I would do.
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  Speaker 2: The oldest trick in the books, got You've got sneaky little.
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  Speaker 1: Got him so excited in the first minute that he
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  Speaker 1: went or why are gone? Yep, anyway, Scherer's got twenty
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  Speaker 1: five homers, most in baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, imagine that shocker. At least imagine why I want
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  Speaker 2: to go back to Philly. It's more, way more surprising
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  Speaker 2: he played first than it is it is. What does
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  Speaker 2: this mean as Harper dhing more now? Because then we
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  Speaker 2: talk about this yesterday that his metrics are less metrics.
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  Speaker 2: First I heard this stat and I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: this is true or not, but someone told me this
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  Speaker 2: that if you watch a Phillies game, Harper always flips
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  Speaker 2: the ball to the picture. And he does that because
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  Speaker 2: if you flip the ball to the pitcher, your defensive
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  Speaker 2: rating goes up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh so he doesn't take it himself.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, And I see it so mad at my first basement,
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  Speaker 2: take the ball yourself. I don't want to have that
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  Speaker 2: guy and have to catch the ball and run and
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  Speaker 2: touch the base. But then I heard that it ups
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  Speaker 2: your range whatever assistant fact or whatever you want to
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  Speaker 2: call it. It apparently I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Again, I believe that. If that's true, though, we need
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  Speaker 1: to change that. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying what I was told.
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  Speaker 1: Someone told me Bryce do it. You want to do
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: No, Price could do whatever he wants. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: about that's It's just that. It's more of the fact
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  Speaker 2: that that's a thing. That's ridiculous whatever. You know what
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  Speaker 2: playing to that.
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  Speaker 1: This was a thing ten years ago where defensive metrics
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  Speaker 1: in the outfield started to get hotter, and for front
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  Speaker 1: offices they were judging hard off of that. Right before that,
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  Speaker 1: it was eye test. Then all of a sudden, it
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  Speaker 1: has to do with how far back you are. That
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  Speaker 1: became a thing.
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  Speaker 2: You're looking at them, play farther in or farther back.
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  Speaker 1: There were guys I remember I spoke to a couple
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  Speaker 1: that were like, I'm playing farther back because of the metrics.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. I don't think it's the right thing. I
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  Speaker 1: take a few extra steps back just because that's how
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting graded as a player.
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  Speaker 2: Period.
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  Speaker 1: I fought it for a couple of years. My defensive
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  Speaker 1: metrics were down, and so now I'm joining the party.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, Andrew Jones would play like in a
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  Speaker 2: deep second.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, he would have gotten crushed by modern.
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  Speaker 2: Metrics for that, but he just got in the Hall
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  Speaker 2: of fame, So I guess for metrics can be wrong
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  Speaker 2: and right at the same time. That's right, was fine,
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  Speaker 2: he was fine. I heard it.
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  Speaker 3: Outfielder would catch the ball and continue to sprint through
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  Speaker 3: it because it graded him more on his range. He
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  Speaker 3: got a couple of gold gloves too, So just saying
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  Speaker 3: that's maybe that's how you cracked the code.
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  Speaker 1: Foss Hustle gets you paid no extra cash. Yeah, foss Hustle.
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  Speaker 2: Gets crack the code.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, Okay, let's charge.
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  Speaker 2: Let's charge about.
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  Speaker 1: Some of our audience might think I'm going to go
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  Speaker 1: a different direction with this one, but I think this
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  Speaker 1: is a feel good story. The Mariners announce they're going
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  Speaker 1: to piggyback not much a few times between now and
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  Speaker 1: the trade deadline or sorry, the All Star break, because
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  Speaker 1: they all got together and said, we're in this together.
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  Speaker 1: There's six of us, let's share. Do you like that
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  Speaker 1: or do you hate that?
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  Speaker 2: I hate that? You do?
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  Speaker 1: What did you want?
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  Speaker 2: There's five pictures. There's five of them. Picture five best.
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  Speaker 2: Why we we had this? We had this argument you
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  Speaker 2: had this even about Chase Dolander.
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  Speaker 1: That's totally different.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. No, it's not. It's the exact same thing.
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  Speaker 2: And now you want to flip blow, so you want
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  Speaker 2: to wonder you unplugged by wire, so.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly you want to kick out.
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  Speaker 2: That's not I don't know who's gonna get kicked out.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, guys get kicked out of the
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  Speaker 2: rotation all the time when they pitch bad. Okay, And
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  Speaker 2: if it's Louis Castillo, then it's Louise Cassidy, if it's
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  Speaker 2: Bryce Miller, if it's Brian wu if it's Logan Gilbert,
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  Speaker 2: if it's George Kirby, whoever it has to be, if
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna do a five man rotation. I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is cool that. I'll say, it's cool they got together
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  Speaker 2: and said we're all in this together.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: That part's cool. I like that, But I don't like
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  Speaker 2: the fact that piggyback playing it hasn't It's never worked.
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  Speaker 2: And two days ago, yesterday, when you were talking about
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  Speaker 2: Chase Stolan, you're like, oh, they piggyback, Oh Bubba Chandler
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  Speaker 2: stolanders not piggy No, he's bulks. Yes, that's what do
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  Speaker 2: you think piggybacking is? Scott?
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  Speaker 3: Now I disagree. I'm on Scott's side on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so you use an opener, wait, wait for Chase Stolen,
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  Speaker 2: but they don't bring him in.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have a problem. So this is a we
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  Speaker 1: have too many good starters. We want to keep all
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  Speaker 1: their value up. Someone's probably gonna get hurt in five
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  Speaker 1: minutes anyway. That's one part of the equation. The other
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  Speaker 1: is we don't have enough good starters. Chase Dole unders
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  Speaker 1: our best pitcher, but we are so soft that we
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  Speaker 1: are going to bring him in after the first inning
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  Speaker 1: to try and help ease him in training wheels him in.
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  Speaker 1: That's pathetic. This to me is different.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So what happens if you first start, God forbid
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  Speaker 2: this happens. Any of the five starts, whoever the piggybacker
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  Speaker 2: is gets hurt. It's Brian wu his first start. He
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  Speaker 2: gets hurt, first time piggybacker.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're saying, you're saying we're throwing off his schedule
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  Speaker 1: in time. I just I agree with that. It is
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  Speaker 1: not perfect. I'm just saying that's not as glaringly ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: as saying we don't.
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  Speaker 2: Have that Brian who's not good enough start? Logan gober
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  Speaker 2: is not good enough start.
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  Speaker 1: No, they are. They're all going to do this.
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  Speaker 2: George Kirby's not good enough.
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  Speaker 1: Start one time. They're going to do this, And.
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  Speaker 2: What happens if that one time something goes wrong?
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  Speaker 1: You're right, I'm just asked. I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, if they want to do this, they can do
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  Speaker 2: what they want. Well, what happens after the All Star
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  Speaker 2: break and they've done this one time?
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  Speaker 1: If they get through the whole season with six healthy
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  Speaker 1: starters like this, then everybody needs to pay a million
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  Speaker 1: dollars to their training staff and say sign me up.
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  Speaker 2: And I really did it a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't they only use five guys?
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  Speaker 1: How do they do that? Nobody else is pulling that
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  Speaker 1: off these days. Look, they're pretty healthy and they went
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  Speaker 1: deep in October. That's actually impressive. We should point that out.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you think good scouting? I think good plan for
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  Speaker 1: your arms? It has to do with are you picking
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  Speaker 1: up guys that you feel like, have good medicals and
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  Speaker 1: you believe in their durability? But also what's your plan?
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  Speaker 1: How are you keeping them healthy. You think it's just
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  Speaker 1: pure Luckcrat.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there's definitely a lot of luck involved, But
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  Speaker 3: I also think it's the talent level. To me, I
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  Speaker 3: think players who are really good can pitch through some things.
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  Speaker 3: I think players who just redline everything all the time
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  Speaker 3: have a tough time pitching through things and are constantly hurt.
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  Speaker 3: But to me, I love this. They have six guys. Guys,
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  Speaker 3: do you want to go to a six man rotation?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: Why? Because we all don't like it. Who wants the piggyback?
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  Speaker 3: You know what, We're not gonna put anybody in that spot.
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  Speaker 3: We're all gonna piggyback. We're all going to shoulder this
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  Speaker 3: load because we're a team together. I love every second
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  Speaker 3: of this, and it has nothing to do with exactly
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  Speaker 3: what happened to Dolander.
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  Speaker 1: Mariners series Bradish Kirby tonight, and then you've got Chaine
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  Speaker 1: Baz against Brian Wu on Thursday afternoon. That's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good sigure. It's the see that's Piggyback Eve. They call
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  Speaker 1: it because that's Thursday, but for the first piggyback Piggyback Eve.
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  Speaker 2: Crazy Dodgers mcclana Tawi's vision today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but today I'm just no, no, no. I was talking
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  Speaker 1: a lot about tomorrow because a lot of people catch
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  Speaker 1: about that one later. Uh, Thursday afternoon, Joe Ryan against
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  Speaker 1: Jack Lighter, Trey A Savage against Sonny Gray Thursday afternoon.
• 9:26
  Speaker 1: Sunny Great might get traded if they figure out the money.
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: And also a lot of the money's already be eaten
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: by the Cardinals. Yeah, so that could happen. And the
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: Phillies Mets series starts on Thursday, so that's a four gamer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mets have I mean, it's a bad pitching
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  Speaker 3: matchup Nola versus Sean and Ayah, But the Mets have
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies' number, so they've been able to pitch to
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies lineup. It'll be interesting that might even be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of cash available in that series just
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: because of the fact that you can the Mets. The
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  Speaker 3: Mets aren't going to be favored in that series, but
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: the Mets have had the Phillies number. Can the Phillies
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  Speaker 3: offense break through against the Mets pitching staff that's not
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• 10:44
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• 10:46
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• 10:49
  Speaker 1: you managed all these guys and then you'd get the
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: combo where you get drinks with one of the pitchers
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I had to say that. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, yes, they don't have a choice. I guarantee
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  Speaker 2: there's someone not happy about it. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know who that is, but there's someone that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be happy about it. Again, what happens if this
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  Speaker 2: goes past the All Star break and they have to
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  Speaker 2: do this for we can do this the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the year. So who gets to be the piggybacker? Who
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  Speaker 2: gets to be the second guy? Because they're only going
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  Speaker 2: to get if they go five and four, right, or
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  Speaker 2: let's say that they're the starter goes five and then
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  Speaker 2: the piggybacker only gets three because they got to bring
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  Speaker 2: munios into finishing game. Although they do that from the manager,
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  Speaker 2: I agree, but also also the piggyback guy is going
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  Speaker 2: to be like, man, I only got three innings in
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  Speaker 2: ten days. That's not my normal reps. And then do
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  Speaker 2: you move the piggyback guy around?
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  Speaker 1: Do you take it through the All Star break? And
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  Speaker 1: then if you're still in that spot, make a change
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  Speaker 1: and see who isn't pitching well, and then do them.
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  Speaker 2: You have to.
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  Speaker 1: So let's say, so should they do that?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? So the last night logan, Gilbert pitch, you pitch? Really?
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  Speaker 1: What? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Okay? And then I don't know who's tonight? Maybe Kirby's
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  Speaker 2: killer Kirby. I don't know. I don't even watch tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, right, So then let's say, let's say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: Gilbert pitch great, Kirby pitches tonight, right, and then Luis
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  Speaker 2: Castillo piggybacks. I'm just using him as example. Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if that's what the plan is.
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  Speaker 1: It's Kirby tonight. I just do one caveat. They're only
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  Speaker 1: doing this three times before the all surve it's not
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  Speaker 1: like every outing. They're only doing this during a few
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  Speaker 1: different times.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the starter, who's the piggybacker?
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  Speaker 1: So the first one is on Friday and they say
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  Speaker 1: it's random, but it happens to be Bryce Miller and
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  Speaker 1: Louis Castillo.
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to piggyback logan Gilbert and George Kirby
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  Speaker 2: back to back?
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  Speaker 1: I think on the same day I think.
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  Speaker 2: On the same they're gonna do that. Why why would
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  Speaker 2: you do that? If you're a team, those are your
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  Speaker 2: two best starters, Well and Brian Wu. So you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: take a start out of Brian Wo who could give
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  Speaker 2: you six or seven innings, and then say you're only
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  Speaker 2: going five today? Do because Bryce Miller, Luis Castillo, George Kirby.
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  Speaker 2: That's dumb to me. If you have Logan Gilbert, you
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  Speaker 2: have uh, Brian Wu, you have George Kirby, and those
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  Speaker 2: are your three best starters. Okay, I want them pitch
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  Speaker 2: it every fifth day because that gives me a better
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  Speaker 2: chance to win over the long haul than saying Gilbert
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  Speaker 2: in Kirby the same day.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry, why not just have a six man rotation until
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  Speaker 1: someone gets hurt?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, fine, I'd rather have that.
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  Speaker 1: I'd rather have that, right, I'd rather have that.
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  Speaker 2: But these guys are used to pitch it on every
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  Speaker 2: fifth day, and they prove and they can do it.
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers do a six man it seems to work pretty fine.
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  Speaker 2: But again, if you're if you're in and listen, Gilbert
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  Speaker 2: and there are all great teammates for saying they'll do this, right,
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  Speaker 2: But if you were This seems like it's to keep
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  Speaker 2: one guy happy. And again I'm not there, But who's
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  Speaker 2: the guy that's pitching the worst? Castilla Castillo's sorry. I
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  Speaker 2: know he's been there, he's been great. For him this year,
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't been great. Okay, so the other guys have
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  Speaker 2: been good. Byan has been great obviously. I mean, here's
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  Speaker 2: the numbers. The problem is you don't want to take care.
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  Speaker 2: I mean there's five that I would say, all right,
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  Speaker 2: I'd take those five and then Castillo sorry, dude, like
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  Speaker 2: it's tough conversation, or do you go six six metation?
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  Speaker 1: I would do six for now.
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  Speaker 2: I would too, I wouldn't do Sorry, So you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell Emerson Hancock is having a great year. By the way, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Castillo start to Emerson, you're gonna pitch
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  Speaker 2: the last three four innings, maybe only three, maybe only two,
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  Speaker 2: because let's say there's a lefty pocket and we need
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  Speaker 2: Spire to come in and then moon News to come
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  Speaker 2: into club.
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  Speaker 1: They claim they're not gonna do that.
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  Speaker 2: I think are they trying to win? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: the teams that The only team I can remember ever
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  Speaker 2: doing this was the Colorado Rockies and they sucked.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was different. That was experimenting.
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  Speaker 2: This is a good team with a chance to planning
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  Speaker 2: to go to the World Series, and they're doing it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, just my opinion, I'm probably wrong.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it is as glaring as we're making
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  Speaker 3: it out to be, in the sense that it's not
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  Speaker 3: like the Astros minor leagues back in back in the
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  Speaker 3: late teams when they were going you have ten starters
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  Speaker 3: on the team, you have two piggybacks every single day.
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  Speaker 3: It's one piggyback one time through the order, then the
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  Speaker 3: next time it's another piggyback. So it's not that big
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  Speaker 3: of a deal. But I'm really confused as to why
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to go to a six man rotation
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  Speaker 3: the Dodgers. Everyone's will be like, well, the Dodgers do it.
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  Speaker 3: The Dodgers also have two guys in a rotation that
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  Speaker 3: are that have came up with six six six man
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: rotations in Japan, and you know, some of those stretches
• 15:25
  Speaker 3: go longer with off days. So I I wonder, I
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: wonder what the kickback was when that was discussed, because
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: to me, that's the route it even it even saves
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: some of your bullpen in my opinion, except you're one
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: man short in a bullpen, right.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I just like to clarify that the team getting together
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: with the players all that, Like, I thought that was cool,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: but I agree with you, yes, Optimus.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: So they're not going to sing no no. Can you
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: imagine if one of them said no, no man, I'm
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: doing that. Yeah, the other the other five guys would
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: be like, also.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: It's five to one, we outruly you're doing it.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and somebody said no, somebody said no to the
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: six man rotation.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, no way.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: They're like, holy cow, I can't believe Scott and Eric
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: brought up a six man rotation.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: We should have thought of somebody said no to that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: That's true, that definitely.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Or was that Dan Wilson Or was that.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: The starter saying, hey, I don't want to I don't
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: want to do the sixth.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: But I'd rather have a five man rotation and pitch
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: four innings out of the bullpen, maybe less than started
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: in a six man.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Only they're doing it three, they're doing three piggybacks, so
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: it's one is it?
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Always? Bryce Miller in the least guest to you, No.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Well, no, it's only going to be three guys that
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: have to come in later in a game and pitch
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: half a game.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: And who are these guys? Tell me those three guys I.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Don't know yet. They're not telling us the whole schedule yet.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, when we get done with this, let's go back.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: And see who.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: The three guys at piggyback. Who are They're not bringing
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert into No, they're not. They're not. They're not
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: bringing George Kirby in in the fifth thing, I'm sorry,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: sixth inning. Sorry, they're not bringing Brian Wu with his
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: injury history in the sixth inning? Nope?
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Hand Yeah, I think they might do Wu. They did
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: it last year with him, didn't they when he came
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: They're gonna that's the playoffs is way different, I understand.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: But it all right. Let's see. Let's see the arm
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: injuries for the Cubs are piling up, and we learned
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: about multiple harm injuries for them again on when on Tuesday?
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: So let's focus on Danny Plentia for a moment. This
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: is where things get interesting. So this is his second
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I el stint Okay, but Patrick Mooney put an article
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: out saying that there was actually some tension when he
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: was pitching in the WBC. At one point pitched three
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: times in four days, high pressure moments. It was no joke, right,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you're thrust into it. The Cubs weren't thrilled. Venezuela was
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: pushing the Cubs, being like, Yo, this is our and hey,
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: they won. Most guys would trade any of that for
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: the world, and.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Said he would die on the mound for the Cubs.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Think about what he would do on the mound for
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Venezuela more than that. Yeah, exactly.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: So there there still is an article and it's worth
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: a discussion well, of course, and it could affect things.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: Think about it next time we have a WBC. If
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the Cubs have Polenty or some other high level arm
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: do you think they're gonna try and push a little
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: bit harder.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: I think they did already because I remember talking to
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Omar Lopez and we talk about this. He didn't give
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: a crap, and he's like, he said, look, when you
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: agreed to let this guy pitch, these were not the
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: rules that you gave me, and now you want to
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: change the rules. And he's like, that's not fair to us.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: We're gonna pitch him. We're not gonna abuse him, but
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: we're gonna pitch him. And I don't know if that
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was about Polentci or someone else.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, apparently yeah, he would get calls. Then they would
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: try to.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Do every guy gets every manager you talked to, Mark
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: DeRosso calls some thirty teams about every guy that were
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: using or not using. I mean, do you think cal
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Rawley got like nine at bats in the WBC over
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: like a three week span. Do you think the marriers
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: were happy about that? They heard his oblique? Was it
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: because he only got nine at bats in spring training
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: during that time? I mean, there's there's a million ways
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: you can look at this. I just don't guys are
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: going to get hurt. When they get hurt, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: And he even said it publicly. At one point, he
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: had some quote that I loved where he was just like,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: don't care. I have a job to do. You don't
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: control this, like you can't actually force me to sit
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: your guy, and he didn't.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: New phone who dis all WBC long look like stop.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I understand that the Cubs are pissed about this. David
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: Palencia has had a history of some injuries throughout seasons.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: He is probably their best reliever now that Porter Hodge
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: is down, and even before that, and maybe he was there.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: You know, I love this guy's energy. I love everything
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: that he brings. Giving him the opportunity to go and pitch,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the organization said, that's fine, you let him go, So
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: then let him go. Don't be a helicopter organization. Don't
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: come back. Like if he got hurt in August, would
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: they have been like, oh see, don'jo WBC. I feel
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: like it's I feel like it's soft. Could it be that,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe your starters aren't going long enough and
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: you're not able to keep him healthy in the regular season,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: But no, this is a super easy, easy, low hanging fruit.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Say yep, WBC. I think it's I think it's tired.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I think it's soft. I think it is something that
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you have to deal with, and I think, honestly, Danny
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Polinci is probably a better pitcher for pitching in WBC.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: He knows what it's like to pitch in big games,
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: and he did really freaking well. I think he had
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: like nine punches and five innings Like that is that
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: is going to set your organization ahead once you make
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: it to the playoffs. Now obviously right now you need
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: to make it to the playoffs, and a healthy Palencia
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: would help that. But I just don't I don't agree
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: with the Cubs coming out and being like, oh, yeah, see,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: this is what happens because the WBC is great for
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: players and it's great for the game.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's on the shelf with right elbow inflammation after
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a strained left oblique earlier this season, and you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: he didn't feel great a couple outings ago, so they
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: gave him four days. Then he popped back up on Monday,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: punched out a few and I think a scoreless inning
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: in that win, the big comeback, walk off win. But
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: after that, again he was not in good shape and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they were like, all right, I l no MRI for now.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: But the juicy part is it's not just you know,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Patrick Mooney, who you can into a Northside territory and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: they'll have an episode on this, But it's not just
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: the story like he's taking quotes. Jed Hoyer runs the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: front office. He said, we discussed at the time that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the most comfortable thing for the Cubs, he said,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: or the Brewers, because they were talking about Brewers. Guys.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: There there's a lot of teams that were impacted by
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: the schedule, but there's no way to prove or disprove that.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: As with any of the WBC stuff, is an unusual
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: ramp up for guys. It's an unusual time of year
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: to be doing what they're doing when guys get hurt
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: or guys underperformerly in the season. Whatever you ask those questions.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, what happens if you would have got hurt in
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: spring training? That's why I did.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It. Just gives you a little look into how front
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: offices do this.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's not so much they hate this even though
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: it's their huge money maker. Yeah, for their bosses, which
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: is MB and the owners huge money maker for them.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Their front office is like, well, you got a guy hurt.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Well, so think about this, right, Huge money makers get hurt.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: All the time. No, guys get hurt. Tell me, guys
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: you around and got hurt in spring training in a meeting,
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: a meeting game, in an exhibition game. It didn't go
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: for the first.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Fifteen days of the season because I tweaked something doing
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: PFPS like it happens.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Kyle Teel hasn't played in a major league game.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: That's not because of his hamstring though, Oh he had
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: something else and problem, right, So that's true. I will
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: let's say if he's running the bases in a spring
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: training game and the same thing, no doubt.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: I hate going down this.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I hate going down they but front offices are doing this.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Can I tell you why? Because a front office leader's
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: job is to win games, period. He doesn't care how
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: entertaining the game is. That's the league's job to fix that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And you're saying, oh, well, the Cubs owner, right, Ricketts
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: makes a lot of money off the WBC. Well, at
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the end of the season, if the Cubs missed the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: playoffs by a game or two, guess what he doesn't
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: care or think about the WBC. He goes, hey, Jed,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: we missed the playoffs. That's not good.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, Yes, did somebody call
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: these games exhibition games? And that the World Series meant
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: more than these games?
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You in the front offices.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Did someone say that? And two people on both sides
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: of me here, more than two just on the show
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: screamed that these are not exhibition games.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: These matter more tournament games.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: So now they so now which one matters more.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Scott for me? WBC?
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, then don't complain when the guys get hurt.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: I'm not complaining. I'm the show goes bring up happening here.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not complaining. Front offices are complaining, And if it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: up to them, they wouldn't.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: They should cancel spring We should be like the NFL,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: cancel all the games. Don't have the stars play at
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: all until the Like the NFL, the preseason games, the
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: quarterback and everyone plays. They played three plays. The quarterback
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: was hutting, hands it to the third string running back.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Answer to their hut throws a two yard out to
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: the fifth string receiver. All right, we got our we
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: got our game speeding already.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: And then you say I didn't have a spring training exactly.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: There is no win. There's people absolutely love WBC, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I'm included. I absolutely love it. You do not make
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: excuses to try to get rid of it.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: AJ doesn't love it. AJ thinks it's an exhibition. I
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: think it's real games, and I think everybody should play
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: in them. And as an organization, if you're a front
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: office playing for the even like the minor league team
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: USA stuff, your job is exactly what Scott said. To
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: win a World Series, you need to create an environment
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: where your best players are in environments where winning matters.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Because the minor league's winning does not matter. And if
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: you can tell me it matters, I would love to
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: see why, how or why it matters.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: In the minor leagues.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: You play your team, You play your prospects in a WBC,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: in TMUSA stuff, in whatever it is, the pre Moon dial,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: PanAm Games, Olympics, all that. Let them play and in
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: the long run your organization will be better for it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Clubs opening day rotation, almost everybody has spent time on
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the injured list alreadylmost everyone in their bullpen has spent
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: time on the injured list. Edward Cabrera has spent time
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: on the injured list and left yesterday's game with a
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: right hand cramp, So hopefully nothing serious there, but this
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: team's trying to find it.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: They also can't hit except for one guy.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: They can't hit her health, and then they look up
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: and they're like deja vous. The Brewers are forty four
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and twenty six best seventy games start in franchise history. Damn,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: they're super good again, even earlier this year than last year.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: They're already soaring that starts to build up, and then
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: stuff like this comes out and becomes a bigger story
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: in Chicago. That's just how it works. North Side Territory
• 27:41
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• 27:44
  Speaker 1: and Patrick Mooney. I just caught up with the other day.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: They're great dudes, and they know ball. They know the Cubs.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: They report on them every day in the Athletic and
• 27:53
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• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he said.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: What he said, That's what he said. That's what he said.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: We really haven't talked about John Fisher.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Much this year because I haven't really done anything.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Well, he's been in hiding, but now he's back. He
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: is out there for the world to see, and Evandrelic
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: wrote an article about him. As a ballpark rises in
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Las Vegas, owner John Fisher is pitching his a's and himself.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: So this is one of the biggest villains in sports, right,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But in this article there's quotes about how he regrets
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: hiding and he's trying to repair his reputation. Conveniently timed
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: that he needs to be well liked in Vegas. Selling
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: seats in Vegas will have a lot to do with
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: having a good relationship with the community, having a good
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: relationship with local businesses. Quote from John on his regret
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: to not be more vocal during some ridiculously tough times
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: as he stripped a same team he created, he crafted
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it to a t. It's his team. Nobody else should
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: be blamed but him. That's where it starts. Quote. I
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: think people needed to hear from me. Not hearing from me,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I think led to frustration from Frankly the media like
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: who is this guy?
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Is just an idea?
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Who's the real John Fisher?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: What about the fans?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: He actually said, like who is this guy? Is he hiding?
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Who's the real John Fisher? So now he that's the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: end of the quote. Now he emerges with a two
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: billion plus dollar ballpark that should be open in twenty
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, and he needs to get press and locals
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: and all of that involved, and he does actually have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a big problem that the article gets into where the
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: surrounding area is not getting built up. So the ballpark
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: is hopefully going to be up by twenty twenty eight,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the latest twenty twenty nine, there's nothing else being built
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: around it, So which is Yeah, there's you can read.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do too much of this, not
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: based on not talking about I just don't have all
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: the facts of the way Evans article us. But Bally's,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the casino operator, has control of that area, but they
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: have all these other projects they're working on, and it
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: sounds like they don't really know if they're sure that
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: that's going to be a worthwhile multi billion dollar investment
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: to build all around the ballpark there, So they might
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: have to create some action there themselves aside from the game. Anyway,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: let's get back to the key point here. John Fisher
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: regrets the way that he was handling ditching a city,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and he didn't really mention the fans. He mentioned the media.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not even anywhere to start with this.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: There's the whole thing is just why now, John?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, But what he's like, Oh, I regret the way
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the media wonders the fans were the ones clamoring and
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: he never did anything. He always had what was the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: guy's name that he had running around for him the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: whole time.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, Dave Cabal. He's gone right, Yeah, he's gone weird.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: So that was his.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Now he has now better people telling him that he
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: should talk to people like to you know what he needs.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: He needs sweet sold because apparently that ballpark has a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: lot of sweets because it's Vegas. So he's hoping that
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: all the casinos will see him and say, oh, this
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: guy's not that bad. We can buy a suite from
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: him for the whole season every year for the next
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: twenty years, and then they don't care if the people
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: come or not.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Correct. There's a lot of competition too, and the article
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: gets into how they're going to be so heavily reliant
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: on attracting tourists who want to see other teams, which
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: always kind of bothers me, like, you want that for sure,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but the Golden Knights don't do that. No, the Goldens
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: been to a Knight's game.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: They're awesome.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: They've got the community, yes, because they were an expansion team.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: The problem is he's not going to be the face
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: of this team and the way that you want him
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: to be it's it's just not going to happen. You're
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: not going to take the reputation of this guy from
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that to hey, come see me at the ballpark.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: So, what most people in Vegas want, I guarantee you
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: this if you pulled them, is new ownership. They want
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: new ownership, preferably, they'd like the team to be called
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: something else. They wanted to feel like it's Vegas. So
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: he's already so far behind on that front, doesn't care.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: But now he is trying to give anyone that has
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: any type of publication a tour of the ballpark. We
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: should reach out and ask him. See, if you really want,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: then he should come on our show and talk to us.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: The thing is, it's one thing to say. It's one
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: thing to say, Hey, I regret that I went in
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: hiding while I was stripping the city of a team. Okay,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: but now let's talk about it. He just wants to
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: talk about but now I'm here in Vegas. And in
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the article Kratz, there's a later part. It's a long
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: article where he essentially says, I'm paraphrasing well enough that
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: he feels like these are his people now and he
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: didn't you know, like he can say hi to everyone
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: in Vegas and all of that, Like he's all chummy
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: with the Vegas people, and that wasn't really a thing
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: for him to Oakland, Like I connect with this this group,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: that that other group, now that that wasn't really working
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: for me.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Choosing to connect, Yeah, you're choosing connect.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: There's because you think that they're going to bend the
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: need to you and make all this money that you're
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: gonna then bounce, Like people in Vegas are gonna understand
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: this guy's going to bounce out of there, and are
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: they willing to not take the team away, but just
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: once he goes there, builds up a franchise value that
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: he feels like he couldn't do in Oakland, and then
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: sell the team. So it'll happen, they'll sell the team.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: But my thing is like Evan Drelix always writing articles
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: where Rob is Rob Manfred is giving quotes. This is
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent Rob saying Hey, you need to talk
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: to somebody because we need to drum up some drum
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: up some life for this. Because before they actually broke around,
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: you would go to Vegas and you would see nothing
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: nothing about coming.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know now you have friends. I have friends
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: of living Vegas. They they don't even They're like, we
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: don't even care they live. They're from there, they live
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: there the whole life. I'm going there in September, John,
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: give me a tour. Let's sit down and do an
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: interview like it has that.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: That's what it has to be if you want to
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: be part of the community, like he said at the
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: end of the article, part of the community, when what
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: he really means is the owners of the hotels are
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the only people who really wants to talk to. Hopefully
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: they can get into the stadium. But if you want
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: to be in the community, be in the community, like
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: be there, be accessible, be make your organization like, hey,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: you know what, I know, we're only gonna be We're
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: gonna be here in three years. But we want to
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: we want to put down roots here. We want to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: be part of the community. And it's nothing. It's crickets
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: out there. When the when the Uh, when the Raiders
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: went there, there was the Raiders are coming, when the
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: when the Golden Knights were starting there, when they were
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: starting their and they were going to have a hockey
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: team there, there was preliminary stuff. It's crickets out there
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: right now, and it's just it's just a zero feel
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: outcome that's happening right now. And I feel bad for
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for ACE fans continually through this, but
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: I feel bad for what is going to be there.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: And hopefully somebody comes along and can help this situation,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: because Baseball needs a team that is not a that
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: is not a revenue sucker because they're going to such
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: a tiny, tiny market.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if Baseball had the choice, this would not be
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: the guy leading the charge there.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: So, but they can't force them to sell the team.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So instead, so instead of forcing his hand to get
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: rid of the team when he was still in Oakland
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: before moving them, now they're like, hey, hey Fish, we
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: love you, John, You're our buddy. Now we'll let you
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: get a new stadium in Vegas and sell the team
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for two or three times the amount after we miss
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: games because we're going to try and force the league
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: to get a seller account. So John, you're gonna make
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: out like a bandy job.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: That's right to me. The analogy that comes to mind
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: so many people that you follow on a platform like Instagram,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Actually we'll get together, Like there's people that do this
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: with their Like let's say you're someone that's not around
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: your family or certain friends much. They'll do photo shoots
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and then they'll use those photos throughout the year on
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: social media platforms. To me, that's like John Fisher suddenly appearing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Now take a picture. I'm at the ballpark. I'm with
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the construction workers. It's every day, John, It's every day John.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hang out at the ballpark every day together,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: just you and me. We're gonna talk ball, We're gonna
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: watch iroon Judge hit home runs here. It's gonna be awesome.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Come on, come to the ball Sacramento right.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Now, exactly. But the thing is, if you're gonna say,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: oh I did that wrong whatever, you need to actually
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: talk about everything right, just being like, oh I should
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: have been more vocal. But anyway, Vegas, and here's what's
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: going to happen, Like no, no, no, dude, no one's
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: heard from you. You got to go backwards first and
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: start moving up. Not just oh, well, we didn't have
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: a good relationship and I did everything I could and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out. That just doesn't work. So he's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: learning we all grow through this journey of life, and
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: his lesson was, maybe I should be more vocal. It's
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: not true that was completely coordinated. And now he's coming
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: out because he needs the people. So I would love
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: for him to prove us wrong, but I doubt it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Good article, though, Check it out. It's a long one,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: shall we slap? We have a few extra minutes than usual,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: so I just have a bunch of quick hitters to
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: throw at you guys. So first off from yesterday. We
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: started off the show on Tuesday saying we actually have returns,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: not just injuries suck. Well, some of those returns went
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: really well. Drake Baldwin, first swing, first swing back, Wait,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: homer four hundred and seventy three foot nuke to deep central,
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: through the rain, through the rain. Wow, that was the swing.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: That was the longest home run hit this year. And
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the other two behind him are Vegas and Sacramento homers.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Those zone Countscott, I'm just I didn't say. I'm just
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: saying those are Vegas and Sacramento homers. I mean his
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: was in elevation too, right, That's been the thing lately,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: third highest ballpark, right, Yes, so that was good return.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Did you see Hunter Brown the pitch fel Day won
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: pitched well one a little rocky first time through, and
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: then he looked exactly like Hunter Brown. Niner Diaz came
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: back to mm hmm. Astros won for two. They're four
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: games back, first, four games back up, first place, not
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the wild card, the division.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Just I'll be there on Saturday. All that's Joe Spotter.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Report back for us on Monday on what's going on there?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And I play the Guardians. I get it. I can
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: get it. I can get both, I can get both
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: sides of it.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Exactly a couple other things we did learn of an
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: injury or to Brad Keller right after our show. Put
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: on the il right forearm tendonitis for the fight and phils.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: On the positive side, there's the tweet by the way
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: for mac help. On the positive side, do you know
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: who else was activated that I think will be very
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: helpful for a team that I keep liking more than most.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Helsley is back. Oh that's a good one too.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I was going to get to him. Ryan Helsley's back
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: for the Orioles. That's importan And yes we can get
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to cal first game back. The key hit.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: WBC is a real thing. It is it just you
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: just had to get recovered from the WBC.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a good run now. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: he was hurt. He was playing hurt mhm, remember though,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: bleak and he's trying to right before he went on
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: the shelf in mid May, remember he skipped a throw.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: He was like needed to take a little breather. You
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: know what that's like?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, yep, he jes.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: He never do you guys know who stole the show yesterday?
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Joshua will Baiaz.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: What's that?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: He is one of the top hitting prospects in the
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: sport for the Cardinals. Four homers, I mean, it's.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Cool, but as krauts one said, I hit you Grand
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: slams in the triple. It doesn't count.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: It does not count. But the Cardinals can swing the
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: bats if they have another one coming. Makes things a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: little bit more interesting for a team that's in a
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: platoff race right now. So those were a few observations.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Oh and Aaron Ashby's ten and O on on pace
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: for a twenty and oh season. Can you imagine how
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the old Ashby goes twenty.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: And oh think they signed it with that deal?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Just shits all over wins twenty and oh you'll look
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: back in the record books one day like, hey there
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: was a picture that went twenty and oh oh, let's
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: learn about them inning inning and the set bothnybe, that's incredible.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: He keeps doing it ten and O.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: It's also when they put him in the game. Right,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: there's situations to it. But there's also by the way,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Frombert pitted really well last night. I know we're not
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: going to talk about it, but no, we can it
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: really well against Houston.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Last night, Promer pitched well, yes, was gonna be batting,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: relived last year's magic.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: What do you hit him? What are you thrown at him?
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: We already did. I wanted to see sALS are headed, dagger.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Friendly fire. As they say, all right, kratsats what do
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: you got for us?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I mean Dane Dunning and Team Korea. I usually try
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: to figure out one person, but I like the k
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I should wear this hat more.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: People be like, wow, you got your own hat.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's actually my hat, okay for.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: Eric, I like the font on that.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And also young is the hottest guy in the world.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I just was but this but this thing this thing that, Yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I his numbers as you were saying.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Deep again today he's on fire. I wish I would
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: have known about that. Do you just see me? The
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: whole game one?
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: He's a fun player to watch, sitting like three something.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Giants fans were like, I've had it with this guy
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: and now they're like.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Never ever Giant.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: One hundred million dollars deal.
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