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Factory Stock Dirt Racing Draws 128 Cars? · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:07
  Don Armstrong: Welcome to the in-wheel time car talk show.
• 0:11
  Don Armstrong: Just ahead.
• 0:12
  Don Armstrong: From the podcast Dirty Air, it's the award-winning track announcer Rodney Rodriguez.
• 0:18
  Don Armstrong: Now he doesn't know that he's won awards yet.
• 0:21
  Don Armstrong: We haven't given them to him yet.
• 0:22
  Don Armstrong: No, we haven't.
• 0:24
  Don Armstrong: But that's in the works.
• 0:26
  Don Armstrong: And Jeff's car culture, can run flat tires be repaired?
• 0:30
  Don Armstrong: And Mr.
• 0:31
  Don Armstrong: Mars has some hidden Houston hiking.
• 0:34
  Don Armstrong: And I can only imagine where that would be.
• 0:37
  Don Armstrong: Buffalo bayou, stairway, uh, elevator shafts, skyscraper.
• 0:45
  Don Armstrong: It's a secret.
• 0:46
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike Out of this World Mars over in Neederville, Studio 2.
• 0:52
  Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Zeken, Chief Engineer David Ainsley.
• 0:55
  Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong.
• 0:56
  Don Armstrong: So glad that you could join us on this Saturday for our live broadcast.
• 1:00
  Don Armstrong: And if you're listening on a podcast, well, you missed the live broadcast, but you can get the live broadcast every Saturday, 10 to noon Central Time.
• 1:07
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, and a pleasant Saturday morning to you from a world headquarters here in Houston, Texas.
• 1:13
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 1:13
  Don Armstrong: HQ.
• 1:14
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 1:15
  Don Armstrong: Uh we got here early.
• 1:17
  Don Armstrong: We've taken a little nap.
• 1:18
  Don Armstrong: We got here so early.
• 1:20
  Don Armstrong: And uh now we're just gonna wait for Rodney Rodriguez to join us.
• 1:23
  Don Armstrong: And take another nap.
• 1:24
  Don Armstrong: Is he is he even with us at all?
• 1:27
  Mike Marrs: Well, I don't know.
• 1:28
  Mike Marrs: Let's see.
• 1:29
  Don Armstrong: Okay, well let's let's not let's not pressure everybody into it.
• 1:34
  Don Armstrong: Pardon me?
• 1:35
  Don Armstrong: I had him.
• 1:36
  Don Armstrong: There he is.
• 1:36
  Don Armstrong: There he is.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_02: Best way to do it.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_02: Small view, sample size.
• 1:40
  Don Armstrong: By the way, did you did you know that you were an award-winning track announcer?
• 1:45
  Don Armstrong: I did not know that.
• 1:46
  Don Armstrong: Uh I did not know that.
• 1:47
  Don Armstrong: Check your mailbox.
• 1:48
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, you you you've gotten the in-wheel time award for best track announcer in the world.
• 1:55
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: It's made in a paper mache.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I guess I'm I'm so good that that I haven't worked in a year.
• 2:06
  Mike Marrs: You're being picky about which jobs you take.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: I'm one, I'm one and done.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: One one hit wonder, gentlemen.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: One hit wonder.
• 2:13
  Don Armstrong: Do you ever uh do you ever follow any of those track announcers that do like World of Outlaws?
• 2:18
  Don Armstrong: And I mean it that is a that's a specialty that uh I'm I'm impressed with.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_02: Don, you know how it goes.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_02: I listen to everybody.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_02: I listen to everybody do their job.
• 2:30
  Don Armstrong: Now, do you ever listen to us?
• 2:32
  Don Armstrong: All the time, of course.
• 2:35
  Don Armstrong: Liar, liar pants on fire.
• 2:37
  Don Armstrong: But you do have a new microphone, I see.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_02: I do, you know, with with the with the travel that I do, you know, trying to simplify stuff.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_02: So so they tell me that and they sent me this to test.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_02: The company sent me this, and they're like, if you like it, you can keep it.
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_02: So before they ever sent it, I said, I love it because free 99 is my favorite price.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_02: But they tell me that I can unplug this and go wireless.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
• 3:02
  Don Armstrong: I haven't tried that yet.
• 3:03
  Don Armstrong: You know, I have been really ridiculed about the microphones that we use here on the show because we're using sportcaster headphones.
• 3:11
  Don Armstrong: But you have to understand, and this is not a put-down, but Mr.
• 3:14
  Don Armstrong: Mars nor Mr.
• 3:15
  Don Armstrong: Zeke and either one are broadcasters and said they don't know how to use a freestanding microphone.
• 3:21
  Don Armstrong: And so, you know, it's kind of like, well, you know, I don't understand what the problem is.
• 3:25
  unknown: You can't hear me.
• 3:26
  unknown: I why can't you hear me?
• 3:27
  Jeff Dziekan: Why can't you hear me?
• 3:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, I know freestanding microphones.
• 3:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, mine are attached to my drum kit.
• 3:32
  Jeff Dziekan: I've got my upper tom's mic, I've got my floor, my snare, I got my cymbals mic.
• 3:36
  Jeff Dziekan: Those are the microphones I know.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, uh, Don, I hope that you have I hope that you have passed on because we we guys that have done this for a long time have probably learned the hard way.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: Every mic is a hot mic.
• 3:48
  Don Armstrong: Oh my god, yes.
• 3:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, you just told you to pass on.
• 3:52
  Jeff Dziekan: I think that's what I'll yeah.
• 3:53
  Don Armstrong: I'll I'll I'm but I'll pass on that on that one.
• 3:57
  Don Armstrong: I will tell you that yes, early days of radio that I had way back when I did not realize it, but the microphone was hot because you know, in the studio you turn down the monitor and you think, well, no big deal, right?
• 4:10
  Don Armstrong: Oh, the microphone was hot.
• 4:12
  Don Armstrong: And uh I I was ticked off at some uh Baylor football broadcast person that uh wasn't sending me the feed, so I thought.
• 4:20
  Don Armstrong: And uh there were some four-letter words that went out over uh yeah, five million watts of power.
• 4:26
  Don Armstrong: I tell you, man.
• 4:27
  Don Armstrong: And I didn't get one phone call about it because nobody was listening.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's when you know you're doing good.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_02: That's when you know you're doing good.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the the first the first station that I worked at, man, we had such a terrible signal, and it was like, nobody's listening to this.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh yeah, you know, so uh anyway, it uh it's all good.
• 4:47
  Don Armstrong: It's all so who's your microphone supplier, if I may ask.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_02: What's that?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Moano.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is Moano.
• 4:54
  Don Armstrong: Moano is it the is it an Indian name or I mean you know, American Indian Moano?
• 4:59
  Mike Marrs: It's like like one of those podcaster specials, you know, that's set up for podcaster.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I'm in my old ways, you know, I like XLR.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I love the headsets that you guys are using.
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_02: I've got one laying right down here.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_02: This is actually because I I'm in a completely different uh place, uh I'm in a different uh house uh at this point, and this is the first time in years that I'm not like running a mixer, I'm like going exclusively like the young people do with USB.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like really apprehensive.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: Oh old dog new tricks, roof, roof, woof, woof.
• 5:35
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh speaking of uh old dog new tricks, how are things on the roundy round circuit?
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_02: You know, dirt, once again, especially in this part of the country, Texas, Louisiana, and so forth, just continues to be the driving force.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: There was a there was a factory stock race in uh Greenwood, Louisiana.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: Rated by the factory stock.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_02: Factory stock.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_02: So that's a steel-bodied Monte Carlo type car that you know uh very uh they say uh the engine package is very stocked, they run on asphalt slicks, um, oh pull-offs.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: Uh it's it's really the popular class in this part of the country.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_02: There was a race.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_02: Affordable.
• 6:18
  Mike Marrs: Yeah,$20,000 for a comparatively speaking, it's affordable.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's supposed to be.
• 6:23
  SPEAKER_02: See, that's that's the thing.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_02: You you pay you pay twenty thousand dollars to get you a custom-built chassis, but the affordable part is you use the asphalt pull-off that only costs thirty dollars.
• 6:34
  Mike Marrs: So it's it's all a word manipulation.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, they had a race at Boot Hill Speedway in Louisiana, and uh 128 cars entered.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and get this$30,000 to win a factory stock race on dirt.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_02: Wow, yeah.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_02: So dirt, dirt continuing to do really good things.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: Um, asphalt is just uh plugging along.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not the forte here in this part of the country, unfortunately.
• 7:01
  SPEAKER_02: Houston's still the only uh the only track in the south.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, unless you get uh you know out to Florida and and Georgia and those areas, but uh dirt is doing extremely well.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_02: Lots of lots of great dirt tracks in the state of Texas, uh including 105 right there, somewhat in y'all's backyard, that are doing really good things.
• 7:22
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh so let's talk about drivers.
• 7:25
  Don Armstrong: Are they young?
• 7:26
  Don Armstrong: Do you have some old drivers in there too that have been around the track a couple of times?
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_02: You do still have a lot of the for example out in y'all's part of the woods, uh Howard Willis, who's a living legend that that continues to get out and race.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and and you do have guys that have kind of floated from class to class uh that continue to just show up and run.
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_02: But it is predominantly a lot of youngsters that are doing this, and male and female, and they're starting them, guys.
• 7:52
  SPEAKER_02: They're they're starting them real early, real early.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's um it's it's it's scary.
• 7:58
  Don Armstrong: Well, I was I remember when uh I was doing the uh uh track side interviews with you, as a matter of fact, out there at Houston Motorsports Park.
• 8:06
  Don Armstrong: And the fact that I interviewed the winner of one of the races, I think the boy was 15 years old, didn't even have a license yet to drive on the street, but he won the race.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's and there's a lot of that that continues to happen.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_02: Uh the quarter midget, uh, you know, the the young, the the real young kids, the quarter midget uh thing now now is a part of the NASCAR youth series, um, is what that's being called and run throughout the country.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_02: So uh I know here between the Austin group and the San Antonio groups uh of those quarter midgets, where a lot of people start.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Kyle Larson and a lot of these different stars have started in quarter midgets.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: Those are very healthy groups.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_02: They actually had the opportunity last weekend to race out at Coda at Circuit of the Americas and kind of a makeshift uh oval, little oval track.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: So they're starting them seven, eight years old in a lot of instances.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_02: And and a lot of guys that you watch on some of the regional and national tours of whether it be super late model, pro-late model, even in the dirt sectors, 14, 15, 16 years old.
• 9:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, you talked about that, and you talked about the senior, the senior class or the older drivers that you know you're you're with.
• 9:15
  Jeff Dziekan: They are now few and far between in the NASCAR and the Cup Series side because your old timers are the Denny Hamlins in the 40-year-old range, the Larsons in the 40-year-old range.
• 9:25
  Jeff Dziekan: But then you're talking about these preteen kids with the quarter midgets and then the circle track cars.
• 9:31
  Jeff Dziekan: They are getting younger and younger.
• 9:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh the truck race that ran yesterday in Dover, there were three young ladies in there, and uh drivers that look like they didn't even shave yet are in that race.
• 9:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, I hope that the girls didn't shave.
• 9:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, some of them did.
• 9:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Um but you had Michael, you had uh uh what's his name?
• 9:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Kevin, not Kevin Harvick, but the other commentator.
• 9:53
  Jeff Dziekan: He was in the truck race last night.
• 9:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, Boyer.
• 9:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Boyer, cool Boyer was in there.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so yeah, and it it and it really is because the the difference is now where these these youngsters come in and and they come in with money, you know, however they're getting it, whether it be the parents, whether it be you know, companies that uh that have aligned with them, and and that's really what it takes.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_02: It's very much a pay-to-play thing.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_02: It always has been, but yeah, you know, gone are the days where the one that I go back to that that uh where I remember as a younger person was where Harry Gantt, handsome Harry Gantt the skull bandit, that was a guy that was just unbelievable, you know, in late models.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: And it but by the time he broke into to cup racing, he was in his early 40s.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: And now, like you guys are talking about Denny Hamlin and some of these guys, they're at the twilight of their career in here.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 10:41
  SPEAKER_02: They're the old timers.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
• 10:42
  Jeff Dziekan: You got you know, guys like Dick Trickle, those those guys have set the pace.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_02: So it's it's a drastically different landscape right now.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: And and and a lot of these, I mean, there's a lot of back and forth with it because you get a lot of these kiddos that come in and are capable.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I mean, like Caden Honeycutt's a young guy uh here from Texas.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_02: He won his first truck race last week at uh wherever they were on the road course at Watkins Glenn.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he he won everything he was in.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_02: We we watched him in Houston, you know, for a lot of years, where these guys come in and and they they they've earned that they have truly earned, in my opinion, where they are.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_02: But others come in and and they come in via the way of the checkbook.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_02: And hey, it it's it's business.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_02: That that's the way this works now.
• 11:24
  Don Armstrong: So um let's talk about NASCAR and the popularity or unpopularity of what's going on there.
• 11:31
  Don Armstrong: You know, and I've heard uh both sides of the story when it comes to these segment races that they have within a race.
• 11:38
  Don Armstrong: What do you think about those?
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_02: I like them because what you're gonna have with with the segments is it's going to cause restarts.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_02: And and the one thing, the one thing that these segment breaks do, two things for me, uh two two things that people complain a lot about is when you don't have caution flags, it's the endless, there's nothing happening.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_02: Well, these these are controlled caution flags, and they happen to pay points.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I like that in and of itself to you know to help the point system.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: The other part of it that you get is when folks are watching a NASCAR racer.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's too many commercials, these are built-in commercial breaks for the networks to where you're not going to miss the restarts that I'm talking about.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: So there's the there is a lot of back and forth on on how that needs to be done, but but I definitely think that it's a different day and time.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_02: And and and it's taken me a long time.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's taken me a long time with just different things that have happened to get over the things that that that I feel that are missing.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: There are a lot of things missing, but what we have to realize is it it's not the 80s, it's not the 90s, it's not the early 2000s, any of that anymore.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_02: The star the star power is different.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_02: I think that's a big part of it.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly right.
• 12:50
  Jeff Dziekan: And and I don't necessarily agree with you on the on the uh the segment racing segment racing.
• 12:57
  Jeff Dziekan: I really still not over it.
• 12:58
  Jeff Dziekan: But what I have noticed is that the early segments are shorter lapsed to make the last segment the longest run of the race, which that's where the racing happens, in my opinion.
• 13:10
  Jeff Dziekan: So I'm not really into it.
• 13:12
  Jeff Dziekan: I think it's more of giving everybody a trophy.
• 13:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Plus, the guys that you know could win at any given time that are not on that leaderboard can win.
• 13:21
  Jeff Dziekan: And they can move up.
• 13:22
  Jeff Dziekan: So it's more of okay, we've got this group of 10 or 12 or 8, they're the ones that are going to race for the trophy.
• 13:28
  Jeff Dziekan: No, let everybody race for the trophy.
• 13:30
  Jeff Dziekan: That's the way I look at it.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_02: And and so much of this really is to me that that that the the car is the problem, if you want to call it a problem.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this this is a race car, this is a full-blown race car.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_02: You can call it a sports car or a kit car or whatever you want to call it, but I mean that this is a car to where I mean it it doesn't move around a lot.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, the engines don't blow.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I mean, it's it's it's that they call it bulletproof, and it somewhat is.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_02: And the weird part to me, I think, where a lot of people, you know, if you play those e-video games and all these different which I try to do, but uh again, I'm not that tech savvy that I'm any good at that stuff.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: But you you watch this Gen 7 race car and there's this massive hit, you know, where it hits the wall and it doesn't even get wrinkled, it just kind of keeps going, you know.
• 14:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, it's all part of safety too, with the softballs and things, but I agree that the car is the issue because it every year somebody's whining or crying about oh, the car doesn't do this and the car does that, and yeah, it's just terrible.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: I and I happen to think, and this has nothing to do, I've said this for the last two years before the company that I got involved with as a part of the of the of the O'Reilly series, to where the that's a better race car.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_02: You can actually still get into that race car and you can work all four corners of it.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: You can do different things setup-wise, you can go in and modify it as the race is going on.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: It's a racier car.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: It um it isn't as indestructive as as the cup car is.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: To me, the Xfinity or the oh god, I hope the wrong person doesn't see this.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_02: To me, the the the uh the O'Reilly series is really the one that generates the best racing right now.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um, very competitive.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: The the rivalries are there, it seems like, and it doesn't matter if you put them on an intermediate or road course or a short track, you you're gonna get a weekly dose.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_02: And there are over a million people watching those races on the CW, on over-the-air TV, and the networks can't draw anything, it seems like, on Sundays.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:25
  Don Armstrong: Well, as a matter of fact, we're gonna have a guy by the name of Andrew Chapman on the air with us next hour.
• 15:31
  Don Armstrong: Uh, he's also a driver in the ARCA series.
• 15:34
  Don Armstrong: He's coming up, yeah.
• 15:35
  Don Armstrong: And I remember ARCA back in the day when I went to Talladega and stuff.
• 15:39
  Don Armstrong: Uh ARCA was the Saturday race, and there was none of what we got now today.
• 15:44
  Don Armstrong: And then the uh Winston Cup was on Sunday.
• 15:48
  Don Armstrong: But the ARCA series had a lot of action in it and a lot of competition, and they weren't all in one big pack, but they were at least on the same lap, but they had many pockets throughout the lap series.
• 16:03
  Don Armstrong: And um, I found it really exciting and fun to go to, uh, even though it wasn't as popular and you didn't know all of the drivers, uh, it was uh a great series, and so I'm a big believer in those underlying series that lead up to the cup.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the the Automobile Racing Club of America produced so many great drivers.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_02: Benny Parsons, uh, I mean, the list goes on and on.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_02: You know, Jack Bowser was a guy that maybe a lot of folks haven't heard of that came through ARCA.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: And but you know what happened, and ARCA is one of those series where, like where I talk about with the youngsters that come in to where people instantly go to those youngsters are going to ARCA.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: They're starting out in ARCA, and that's where they begin to ascend.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: And and and ARCA, where where ARCA kind of changed was when when it became a NASCAR somewhat entity.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_02: And that, you know, for a lot of people, guys, you know this as well as I do, to where like anything related to NASCAR these days is not good.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, gobbled them up, right?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, got them, got him, you know.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: So it it it I don't know, man, but it it's a it's a great couple of weekends that are coming up.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_02: You've got the all-star events that are going on at Dover uh today and tomorrow with the trucks and O'Reilly and the cup.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: And then my favorite my favorite day of the year is next Sunday because I'm a stock car guy and all this different stuff.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_02: My favorite race of the year is the Indianapolis 500.
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_02: Favorite race.
• 17:24
  Jeff Dziekan: We've got some things coming up, and to that note, I think there's a young lady that's gonna run the double for indie and the uh was it Coca-Cola?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, the Coke 600.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_02: Catherine Legg.
• 17:34
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a young lady that's gonna do it this year.
• 17:36
  Jeff Dziekan: She was uh time trialing yesterday at Indy.
• 17:38
  Jeff Dziekan: But you mentioned, you know, you talked about saying the wrong word or the wrong series.
• 17:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, if they quit changing the name so often, people would remember which series it is.
• 17:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, that's right.
• 17:47
  Jeff Dziekan: Bring back the cigarette, yeah.
• 17:48
  Jeff Dziekan: Bring back Winston.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, how about that?
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_02: But but yeah, Catherine Legg is, and again, that that's a that's another story to where a lot of folks are instantly going to the negative, but uh folks need to do a little research on Catherine Legg, because that is a very accomplished race car driver.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: And where I think at Indianapolis, I I saw where she said her goal is to run the 1100 miles, you know, to finish on the lead lap of both races.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Right.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Very capable in A.J.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: Foyt racing equipment, I think, at Indianapolis.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: I am a little more concerned about Charlotte because that that equipment is maybe not uh, you know, top tier, but it is a long race.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_02: But uh she she said during the week that one of her biggest concerns is is not the fatigue and all that.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: She's very uh fit.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_02: She's concerned about she eats every two hours, she says as she trains.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: So that's kind of one of the things to be watching uh next week.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm glad for Catherine Legg.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_02: I'm a huge Catherine Legg fan.
• 18:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, she's had a rough career getting through all the paces because they she wasn't treated right in the in the cup stuff.
• 18:48
  Jeff Dziekan: So yeah, enough said.
• 18:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Roddy, it's great to talk to you.
• 18:51
  Don Armstrong: What do you what do you got on your schedule for the next couple of weeks?
• 18:54
  Don Armstrong: Not a damn thing.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um I am I'm gonna actually I'm I'm actually home uh throughout the month of May, and then I hit the road uh in June uh for work.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm doing a uh it's called a hot rod tour that I'll be traveling through um Illinois and Missouri, and it's a week-long thing.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'm back for a week and a half, and then I hit the NASCAR tour um on some stuff.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: But um, you know, we'll continue to produce content again.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's why I got this microphone because I I I can take it with me, you know, and continue to try to win awards like you guys.
• 19:32
  Don Armstrong: I I from one broadcaster to another, I will tell you that the microphone works really well.
• 19:37
  Don Armstrong: It does, sounds good.
• 19:38
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, tell your folks there that supplied it to you that you they did good.
• 19:41
  Don Armstrong: And you did good too, and it's always great to talk to you, my friend.
• 19:44
  Don Armstrong: You take care of yourself and let's stay in touch.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_02: Be well, guys.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_02: Y'all uh y'all have a great uh week and uh stay safe.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Terry.
• 19:52
  Don Armstrong: Just ahead in Jeff's Car Culture.
• 19:53
  Don Armstrong: Can run flat tires be repaired?
• 19:56
  Don Armstrong: And Mr.
• 19:56
  Don Armstrong: Mars has Houston hiking in his driving destinations feature.
• 20:01
  Don Armstrong: Weird, but we're gonna figure that one out.
• 20:03
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• 21:48
  Don Armstrong: Today, time now for Jeff's car culture.
• 21:50
  Don Armstrong: Run flats.
• 21:52
  Don Armstrong: Can they run with plugs?
• 21:54
  Jeff Dziekan: Can they?
• 21:54
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, let's check it out.
• 21:56
  Jeff Dziekan: First of all, run flat tires are an increasingly common type of tire.
• 21:59
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm Passenger cars.
• 22:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Manufacturers like BMW or the high-end vehicle producers, manufacturers, are mounting them on cars instead of equipping them with spare tires.
• 22:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Doing so saves weight and space, plus, the run-flat tires are considered both safer and convenient to run than standard tires.
• 22:16
  Jeff Dziekan: If there is a puncture, the air escapes from the tire.
• 22:18
  Jeff Dziekan: The tire is designed not to collapse, but to ride the weight of the car on that sidewall, so sudden decompression would not lead to the driver losing control, which makes sense.
• 22:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Modern cars have tire pressure monitors that warn the driver to slow down if a pressure drops.
• 22:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Now mine did that when I had my flat, it the light came on, it dinged, and you could feel it going down.
• 22:38
  Jeff Dziekan: So here we go.
• 22:40
  Jeff Dziekan: The safety and convenience of run flats come at a cost of construction that is different than the normal tires.
• 22:45
  Jeff Dziekan: They are more expensive to produce.
• 22:47
  Jeff Dziekan: If a normal tire is punctured and the resulting hole is not too large, the tire can be repaired with a plug.
• 22:54
  Jeff Dziekan: Run flat tires, though, are a different story.
• 22:57
  Jeff Dziekan: So here we go.
• 22:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Run flat tires construction is based primarily on the idea that a short, thick sidewall can support the tire, share the weight of the car for at least a little while.
• 23:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Although the ability to operate one as the airscaped is dependently partly on whether the rupture is located.
• 23:13
  Jeff Dziekan: Is it in the sidewall?
• 23:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Is it in the tread area?
• 23:15
  Jeff Dziekan: A hole in the tread surface is more likely, and that is what the tire is designed to handle.
• 23:20
  Jeff Dziekan: A slash to the sidewall may compromise the performance.
• 23:23
  Jeff Dziekan: You've got some pictures there of how that actually is supposed to work and carry the load.
• 23:29
  Jeff Dziekan: Regardless of where the tire has been penetrated, the result is that the sidewalls of the tire are supporting the entire weight that the pumped up tire is supposed to hold.
• 23:37
  Jeff Dziekan: The stress placed on the sidewall is much greater than normal.
• 23:40
  Jeff Dziekan: It is not impossible for run flat tires to be able to continue functioning.
• 23:45
  Jeff Dziekan: There is a place in Europe, it's called a product in Europe is called a phenobell.
• 23:49
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a bulletproof tire rating that calls for it to run even after the sidewall has been pierced with a 7.62 millimeter bullet.
• 23:58
  Jeff Dziekan: However, for civilian run flats, any decision to patch a tire needs to be taken up and reviewed with the condition of the sidewall and the person that's going to do the patch or patch plug.
• 24:10
  Jeff Dziekan: It is physically possible to plug a run-flat tire if there is a puncture in the middle of the tread.
• 24:14
  Jeff Dziekan: A technician certified to work on run-flat tires should check the tire and determine whether it is repairable as the inspection process is different for run-flat tires than it is for a regular tire.
• 24:25
  Jeff Dziekan: Factors such as whether the tire is deflated completely or how fast it's gone down, how long it's been driven on, these are things that all need to be considered.
• 24:34
  Jeff Dziekan: Whether you should plug a run-flat tire depends partly on the manufacturer.
• 24:37
  Jeff Dziekan: Some tire makers, such as BF Goodrich, permit one plug or patch.
• 24:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Others, such as Bridgestone, mandate that the tire must have at least a 15 PSA while punctured, in other words, holding more air as it goes down.
• 24:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Others such as Pirelli warn that plugging a tire under any circumstances will avoid the warranty.
• 24:55
  Jeff Dziekan: I call hogwash on that.
• 24:57
  Jeff Dziekan: As the conditions are subject to change, it makes the sense of checking your tire experts the manufacturer before temp uh attempting the run flat or the plug.
• 25:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Now I work for Pirelli, I was a manufacturer rep.
• 25:09
  Jeff Dziekan: They had other issues besides run flats.
• 25:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Michelin was the first one that I know.
• 25:13
  Jeff Dziekan: Michelin and Goodyear were the first ones that I know that actually produced a run flat.
• 25:17
  Jeff Dziekan: Yes, they can be driven 50 miles at 50 miles per hour, but so does your Space Saver SARE spare.
• 25:26
  Jeff Dziekan: So what they did was they incorporated a Space Saver spare into the daily driver tire that you have in your car because they will run 50 miles an hour for 50 miles.
• 25:34
  Jeff Dziekan: So uh they can be done, they're a little bit more pricey, they are a harder, firmer ride.
• 25:39
  Jeff Dziekan: You're not gonna get the stickiness like a uh you know a large proportion aspect ratio tire on performance car.
• 25:47
  Jeff Dziekan: These tires are made to run on the road and they're more of a highway tire.
• 25:50
  Jeff Dziekan: So uh I got run flats on the Corvette.
• 25:53
  Jeff Dziekan: You do, you do, and that's a good thing because you have no real spare.
• 25:56
  Jeff Dziekan: There's no spare.
• 25:57
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, so that's the reason.
• 25:59
  Jeff Dziekan: And they're they're fairly new and they are pricey.
• 26:02
  Don Armstrong: Well, Mr.
• 26:03
  Don Armstrong: Mars, um, unfortunately, I don't unless you've got a two-minute feature, I don't think that we're gonna have time for you.
• 26:09
  Mike Marrs: I have got so much wonderful information.
• 26:11
  Mike Marrs: I just I don't feel like I could get it all in in two minutes.
• 26:13
  Mike Marrs: Sorry.
• 26:14
  Don Armstrong: You know, hidden Houston places to go hiking.
• 26:18
  Don Armstrong: Uh on the city.
• 26:19
  Don Armstrong: You won't be able to find it.
• 26:20
  Don Armstrong: Well, uh, there's that.
• 26:21
  Don Armstrong: That's why we have you to tell us where they are.
• 26:26
  Don Armstrong: So why don't we move your driving destinations to the next segment and um and we'll dance with that.
• 26:32
  Don Armstrong: Is that okay with you?
• 26:33
  Mike Marrs: It works fine.
• 26:34
  Mike Marrs: Uh our next guest is uh in the waiting room, so that all works out great.
• 26:38
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 26:39
  Don Armstrong: Well, why don't we take a little earlier break than we normally would?
• 26:43
  Don Armstrong: So we'll have plenty of time for Jennifer Jordan to join us, along with uh Mr.
• 26:48
  Don Armstrong: Maher's driving destinations, if that's okay with you guys.
• 26:51
  Mike Marrs: Very good.
• 26:52
  Don Armstrong: Spot on.
• 26:53
  Don Armstrong: All right, very nice.
• 26:54
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