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Mac & Bone Show - Paul Finebaum Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Right now.
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  Speaker 2: We also say welcome to the great Paul fine Bomb,
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  Speaker 2: ESPN SEC Network, joining us on the Mac and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 1: Paul, how you been man? What's going on?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 4: Mack and Bone is so great to be back. I
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  Speaker 4: knew I have not been on a long time. After
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  Speaker 4: they shut the Clemson football program down, I thought you
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  Speaker 4: guys might follow me, but it's been a while, so well, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Paul. The first question we have to ask is
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  Speaker 2: is it as.
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  Speaker 1: A gamecock fan? Paul? Please don't make fun of Clemson.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, don't do that. You love it. You love that. Paul.
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  Speaker 2: I got to ask you, is it something we said?
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  Speaker 2: It was something we did. Why did you leave Charlotte
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  Speaker 2: and go back to live in Alabama?
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  Speaker 1: What's the story?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it was a legal issue.
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  Speaker 4: I really didn't have a choice. But you know, I
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  Speaker 4: was there thirteen years. I was there thirteen years and
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  Speaker 4: had a great time. But my wife here we go,
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  Speaker 4: is from Birmingham. She's been wanting to move back, and
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  Speaker 4: finally it took a while, but finally my bosses allowed
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  Speaker 4: me to do it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Fairy half of ESPN.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't report from the studio. I guess they finally acquiesced,
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  Speaker 4: but it was nothing personal. And by the way, the
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  Speaker 4: second I leave Charlotte, the Panthers get good.
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  Speaker 3: You motivated that, Paul, you motivated and then rolled out.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Clemson there off the start, so we'll start
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  Speaker 3: with that and then we'll get into the deep into
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  Speaker 3: the SEC stuff. Why do you think Clemson has fallen
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  Speaker 3: off in recent times? And do you see them ever
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  Speaker 3: getting back to a level of dominance under Dabbo that
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  Speaker 3: they had there for so long.
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  Speaker 4: I do not see them coming back. Clemson is a
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  Speaker 4: good program, but I think the ACC media got it
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  Speaker 4: about right. I mean, at the moment, they're no better
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  Speaker 4: than fourth best. That run was legendary. Uh will rarely
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  Speaker 4: have ever seen anything quite like that. Again, playing for
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  Speaker 4: four national championships, being in playoffs pretty much every single year,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was a perfect storm, especially at the
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  Speaker 4: quarterback position. And then Dabos Sweeny thought he knew more
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  Speaker 4: than everyone else in college football and decided he could
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  Speaker 4: do it his old way, and it didn't work. He
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  Speaker 4: finally adapted, but the president others have moved ahead of them,
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  Speaker 4: and even yesterday of the day before you know he
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  Speaker 4: does that stupid typical Dabbo, you know, we're just a
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  Speaker 4: bunch of nobodies. Last year, Clemson had arguably the most
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  Speaker 4: talented team in the country and they and they, they
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  Speaker 4: did nothing with it. They went seven and six. I
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  Speaker 4: still can't quite figure it out. I don't think Clemson
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a losing program. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be a terrible program. But I think
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  Speaker 4: Clemson is now pretty much a nine, three, eight and
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  Speaker 4: four program. So the fans ought to get used to it.
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  Speaker 4: Instead of fighting back at people like me every time
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  Speaker 4: I utter a comment on Clemson. You know, these yahoos
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  Speaker 4: on the Clemson message boards, you know, come after me
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  Speaker 4: like you know, the guy can't get Dabosweeney out of
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  Speaker 4: his head. Listen, Dablos Sweeney isn't in anybody's head right now.
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  Speaker 4: He's a fading coach. If he has another bad year,
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  Speaker 4: he probably ought to be lucky if the Clemson administration
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  Speaker 4: doesn't run them all.
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  Speaker 2: Paul fine By, I'm making more Clemson friends, ladies and
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  Speaker 2: gentlemen here on the Mac and Bone Show. Paul, we
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  Speaker 2: were just talking about this Jaden Daniels thing, that Daniel's team,
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  Speaker 2: his family, they're upset. The number five is being warned
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  Speaker 2: by cornerback DJ Pickett that was his number. He wants
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  Speaker 2: it to be sacred, so they issue a cease and
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  Speaker 2: desist of his name, image, and likeness. LS you can't
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  Speaker 2: use it. They literally want LSU to send their heisman
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  Speaker 2: trophy that the school gets back. What do you make
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  Speaker 2: what do you make of this mess?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I think most everybody I've talked to
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  Speaker 4: agrees this is one of the dumbest things we've ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, first of all, I don't want to take
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  Speaker 4: anything away from Jayden Daniels. He had an outstanding season.
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  Speaker 4: I've covered the SEC for forty five years. I mean
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  Speaker 4: it took me a second to remember Jaden Daniels had
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  Speaker 4: played at LSU. He is not Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 4: transferred there just like Jayden Daniels did. But he had
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  Speaker 4: one of the most epic seasons in college football history
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  Speaker 4: on one of the best teams. Jaydon daniels team was
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  Speaker 4: not that great. They lost by twenty in the SEC
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  Speaker 4: Championship game.
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  Speaker 1: They did be.
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  Speaker 4: Alabama and Nick Sabans in overtime at home. His numbers
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  Speaker 4: were unbelievable, but that does not mean you have to
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  Speaker 4: get your number retired. LSU has done it a few
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  Speaker 4: times with names that most of your audience doesn't remember,
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  Speaker 4: but a lot of schools don't. I mean, Tim Tebow
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  Speaker 4: is one of the greatest football players I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 4: They're still using his number at Florida, same for many
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  Speaker 4: other schools. Just get over it, Jayden, and maybe try
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  Speaker 4: to get Washington back to having a winning record this year.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking to Paul Fine Bomb SEC Network and ESPN
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  Speaker 3: on the mag and Boat Joe Paul. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: polarizing opinions on the South Carolina game Cops as we
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  Speaker 3: enter this season. There are some that think they can
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  Speaker 3: be a surprise playoff and tender. Others that will say, no,
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  Speaker 3: what's your expectation for Beamer and the game Cocks And
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  Speaker 3: how much pressure is on Beamer this year to get
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  Speaker 3: this thing going in the right direction.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he has enormous pressure on him. And part of
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  Speaker 4: the reason is, you know this every other good year,
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  Speaker 4: bad year just doesn't work, especially when you have a
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  Speaker 4: new athletic director and you know shape ab was hired
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  Speaker 4: by the other guy, right Tanner, and I believe they're
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  Speaker 4: going to have a good season. I was with him
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  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks ago at media days, and when
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  Speaker 4: you start talking about the names on that roster, you
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  Speaker 4: know you've got you know. I know Bruce Veldman did
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  Speaker 4: that freaks list the other day, but South Carolina has
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  Speaker 4: just some absolute freaks of athletic freaks, and they need
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  Speaker 4: to take advantage of it. I think they will. They're
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  Speaker 4: going to have to win one of those games though,
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  Speaker 4: that they usually lose, and the one I'm looking at
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  Speaker 4: right now is probably Alabama early on. That's a game
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  Speaker 4: that two years in a row, as you guys know,
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  Speaker 4: South Caroline, so they've blown both of those games. You
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  Speaker 4: can't blow a twenty eight point lead against Texas A
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  Speaker 4: and M. And I know he's working on that, but you.
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  Speaker 5: Just he has to finish the job or he will.
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  Speaker 4: Not be there next year. I think he will have
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  Speaker 4: a good season somewhere.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like to I ask some guys, hey, what
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  Speaker 5: do you think.
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  Speaker 4: About Alabama this year? And the guys, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think they're anywhere between seven and eleven wins. I don't
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  Speaker 4: do that kind of stuff, but they feel like they're,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they're kind of eight four esque. What that means.
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  Speaker 4: That means pretty Obviously, if they beat a team like Alabama,
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  Speaker 4: they can go nine and three.
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  Speaker 5: If they don't, if they if they lose one of those.
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  Speaker 4: Stupid games, they could go seven and five. But based
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  Speaker 4: on and I'll defer to you guys, but every time
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  Speaker 4: I interview somebody from South Carolina who covers a team,
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  Speaker 4: they basically say, you know, we're not that disappointed at
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  Speaker 4: seven and five. I would like to see a fan
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  Speaker 4: base who looks a little bit higher than seven and five.
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  Speaker 4: But I think eight and four is doable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think it's got to
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  Speaker 3: be above seven. It's got to be whether or not
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  Speaker 3: it's the whether it's the playoffs or not. Paul, I
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  Speaker 3: think it's got to be closer to a season they
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  Speaker 3: had two years ago where they're a much bigger factor
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  Speaker 3: than just getting Bowl eligible or seven wins. But that's
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  Speaker 3: just my opinion. There you go there, well your game
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  Speaker 3: cock guy, So that matters. Your opinion matters, Bone, Thank
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  Speaker 3: you for that. Paul's opinion definitely matters.
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  Speaker 2: Paul. I need to know, Georgia, Texas or other where
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  Speaker 2: are you going for the best team in the SEC
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  Speaker 2: this season.
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  Speaker 4: I really like Texas and maybe I forget sometimes that
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  Speaker 4: Steve Sarkisian is the coach and has managed to blow
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  Speaker 4: these big games consistently. But I'm a big fan of Arch.
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  Speaker 4: You know you've heard Cam Coleman's name already, but I
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  Speaker 4: mean he's going to be the most dynamic wide receiver
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  Speaker 4: in the SEC. Came over from Auburn. They just have
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  Speaker 4: everything you need. I mean they've got two, They've got
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  Speaker 4: two or three elite receivers they got they think I'm
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  Speaker 4: ready for this, an elite running back from n C
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  Speaker 4: State and.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, the Wopetra Paul, how dare you?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this guy Hollywood's mother is committed to Alabama.
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  Speaker 4: Alabama fans were rejoicing. He was there about a week.
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  Speaker 4: He said, I've had enough of all this. I'm out here.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to Texas.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 4: And he was humming at Ella Langley song the whole way,
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  Speaker 4: and you know it was just I just think they've
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  Speaker 4: got too many. Their schedules is a little bit more difficult.
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  Speaker 4: Georgia has the easiest schedule in the country other than
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  Speaker 4: Penn State. I mean, they really haven't made so, but
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  Speaker 4: but I'm I'm really I think Georgia has one of
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  Speaker 4: the worst big game in the clutch offensive coordinators I've
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  Speaker 4: ever seen in Mike Boba. I never trust that guy
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  Speaker 4: on a big call, and so far he has proven
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  Speaker 4: me right.
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  Speaker 3: Paul, it feels like whenever I read the rankings or
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  Speaker 3: projections or whatever, that Florida and Tennessee are kind of
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  Speaker 3: near each other. Who who do you like more in
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  Speaker 3: this season? The Gators are the balls.
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  Speaker 5: I like Tennessee.
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  Speaker 4: They're so undecided on quarnerback, but that's about half of
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  Speaker 4: the SEC right now. Uh. I like this Florida coach.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like this guy's name is John Somemral.
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  Speaker 4: He was at Tulane last year. I feel like he's
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  Speaker 4: kind of trying to recreate some role of a of
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  Speaker 4: a tough guy in a Western I mean, he talks
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  Speaker 4: the game. I mean, I mean Billy Napier was laughable
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  Speaker 4: there last year. This guy will get that program back.
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  Speaker 4: But I think Tennessee is in better shape. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: by the way, neither one our serious playoff teams. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we're back to what I just said a minute ago,
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  Speaker 4: about seven five, eight four. I don't I don't think
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  Speaker 4: Tennessee can do much better than eighty four.
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  Speaker 2: Paul, I'm afraid to ask because you've given Clemson the business.
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  Speaker 2: NC State got astray there during the Hollywood Smothers comment,
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  Speaker 2: and now I got to ask about UNC And I
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  Speaker 2: would love, would love Hew and ce football to have
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  Speaker 2: a good season.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like fine bob bingo right.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like they have earned all the strays they
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  Speaker 2: are getting with the dysfunction, Like, is there any reason
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  Speaker 2: to believe that Bill Belichick can turn this around and
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  Speaker 2: make something out of his tar heel stay or No.
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  Speaker 4: No, there's no reason under the sun to believe that
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  Speaker 4: Bill Belichick knows what he's doing as a college football coach.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think in the history of watching the game,
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  Speaker 4: I've seen a worse job than what I saw last year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, he comes off as a bumbling idiot,
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  Speaker 4: and listen, I'm well aware of who he is. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: I've been around. I caught every single one of his
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  Speaker 4: six Super Bowl wins. He should have had eight or nine,
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  Speaker 4: but he is flueless. And I don't know the inside
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  Speaker 4: of the Michael Lombardi deal, but that was his number
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  Speaker 4: one guy. Your number one guy has already been derailed.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the whole thing with a girlfriend is old news,
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  Speaker 4: but it's important because she is everywhere. Uh and when
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  Speaker 4: she has more power than than his assistance, you start
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  Speaker 4: to wonder. And I mean it's just you know, And
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  Speaker 4: the biggest problem for Bill is that the a c
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  Speaker 4: C is now good.
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  Speaker 5: I mean you just.
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  Speaker 4: Can't, you know, you know, show up there and you know,
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  Speaker 4: and and and and and and and call for a
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  Speaker 4: minute and win eight or nine games. And I mean
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  Speaker 4: he got difficult names across the board, and I think
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  Speaker 4: we're looking at another four or five win season.
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  Speaker 2: There we go, Paul Finebaum, the a CEC is now good.
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  Speaker 2: Make that a headline, Internet, make that a headline.
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  Speaker 1: Baby. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Paul, I was watching you yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: you had on the woman that's the old miss fan
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  Speaker 2: that does the cooking.
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  Speaker 1: What is her What is her name? I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to just call her a woman.
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  Speaker 4: Her name is a chef Elizabeth Elizabeth High School. She's
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  Speaker 4: a very famous chef. You on the day show. And
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  Speaker 4: she made the proclamation last year she was in love
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  Speaker 4: with Lane Kiffin in Oxford and she said, if Lane
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  Speaker 4: Kiffin leaves, I will run down the square that's the
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  Speaker 4: famous place in Oxford butt naked. Now listen, Uh, I'm not,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not being chauvinistic here. She's she's in
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  Speaker 4: her mid fifties and you know she probably would not
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  Speaker 4: draw a big crowd if she ran butt naked.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: But my point is, uh, that's everybody in Ole, miss
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  Speaker 4: They really they believe Lane Kiffin was never going to
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  Speaker 4: leave them.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: And but that's the magic of Lane Kiffin. He does it.
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  Speaker 4: He does it to everyone.
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  Speaker 2: You can't trust that, man, you can't. But I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to say, I did not realize you did this. You
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  Speaker 2: were showing her video of you at an Alabama sorority
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  Speaker 2: Rush Rush event, and you look like you fit right
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  Speaker 2: in Paul.
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  Speaker 1: I was impressed.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, by the way, I got some offers from
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  Speaker 4: Broadway after that performance. But uh, you know, I unfortunately
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  Speaker 4: had that rage in my acting ability that I can
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  Speaker 4: take it anywhere you want. But it was you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, when I started, you know, saying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: belot by Lulu lemm and the girls were just going crazy.
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  Speaker 4: But by the way, you guys are well aware. But
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  Speaker 4: there there's nothing more competitive on a college in the
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  Speaker 4: college scene right now than getting rushed at Alabama or
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  Speaker 4: all this.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's more competitive some of the football conferences out there.
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  Speaker 3: We were you're before you go. I have one more
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  Speaker 3: question about your your your show here. We were all
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  Speaker 3: concerned about the status of your caller legend when it
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  Speaker 3: went viral, when he got dragged out of Media Days.
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  Speaker 3: Is everything okay there with them?
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  Speaker 4: He is not back, So everything I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I know you lost your guy from from
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  Speaker 4: from from Gasta Illness, and that's sad uh legends, the
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  Speaker 4: best caller in the show. And he thought he had
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  Speaker 4: been credentialed to Media Days, and they they pretty well
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  Speaker 4: tossed him out. And now it's a major conflict, and
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  Speaker 4: and the show is and you can't call anymore, and
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be either if he doesn't come back, I'm quitting.
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  Speaker 1: So there's another headline clip that one too. We get
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  Speaker 1: another headline. Baby, all right, Paul, awesome, We only had
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  Speaker 1: one phone call. Oh my god, Paul, thanks for hanging
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  Speaker 1: out with you. We're gonna go.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna now text back and forth with all the fans.
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  Speaker 2: You made man, all right, But we always appreciate it, brother.
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  Speaker 4: I always love it. Guy. See the