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The Forsytes - S1E1 (PBS) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast that
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Speaker 1: has taken a sharp left turn into the world of
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Speaker 1: PBS Masterpiece. I'm Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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Speaker 1: I'm Wendy.
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Speaker 2: I'm a former Hallmark hater and a new PBS love.
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Speaker 1: Would have seen that one coming. On today's episode, we
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Speaker 1: are discussing the PBS Masterpiece series The Foresights, Episode one one.
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Speaker 1: It has no title, no neither does the next episode,
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Speaker 1: which originally aired on PBS on Sunday, March twenty second.
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Speaker 1: these PBS series that we are watching over there.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Instagram where I saw the promotion for
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Speaker 2: the Four Sights and I was like, hmm, I wonder
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Speaker 2: if our listeners would be into that and I'm telling
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Speaker 2: you they came through.
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Speaker 1: They really did. And they also told us that The
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Speaker 1: Foresights has already been renewed for seasons two and three.
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Speaker 1: We may be in this for the long haul.
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Speaker 2: Oh no, it's gonna be ten seasons later. We're gonna
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Speaker 2: be like here we are.
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Speaker 1: We're reviewing The Count of Monte Cristo as well. Those
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Speaker 1: episodes drop on Thursday, so if you haven't listened to those,
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Speaker 1: go give those a listen. That's an excellent series. But
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Speaker 1: that was Wendy's first PBS series, and then when we
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Speaker 1: went into The Foresights, it's a different vibe. Similar in
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Speaker 1: some ways, like we're still in the nineteenth century. It's
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Speaker 1: still a period piece all of this. It's still very
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Speaker 1: PBS masterpiece. But I'm a big fan of Downton Abby,
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Speaker 1: and I'm this is different in some ways in a
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Speaker 1: lot of ways than Downtown Abby. I'm super curious. Email
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Speaker 1: us hello at Girls Gone Hallmark dot Com. I'm not
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Speaker 1: objective in this case. If you think Wendy would like
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Speaker 1: down to Abby based on what she has to say
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Speaker 1: about this episode today, Megan is really pushing for it.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to review it. I rewind it's too
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Speaker 1: there's too much content. I'm just curious what people think
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Speaker 1: if they think you would like it. It's not gonna
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Speaker 1: be my new throw on show. I can't throw on
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Speaker 1: Downton Abby. You need to pay attention, Okay, okay, you
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Speaker 1: need to be traumatized by it all.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm oh, I'm really interested too. I'm interested in
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Speaker 2: your feedback, Meghan, after my reaction to this, as well
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Speaker 2: as the listeners. If I would love if I should
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Speaker 2: give out Nabby a chance. Well, let's hear a synopsis
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Speaker 2: for episode one of the Four.
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Speaker 1: Sights before I dive in.
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Speaker 2: I just want to say that on IMDb the synopsis
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Speaker 2: was incorrect, so I, oh, fix it. I didn't fix
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Speaker 2: it on IMDb. I fixed it for our retelling.
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Speaker 1: It got it.
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Speaker 2: The Four Sights prepared to celebrate June's eighteenth birthday and
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Speaker 2: her formal entrance into society, but Julian Senior delivers a
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Speaker 2: shocking announcement at the party, while Francis uncovers a distressing secret.
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Speaker 1: The Four Sights was written and created for television by
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Speaker 1: Debbie Horsefield. Debbie is a writer and producer known for
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Speaker 1: her previous work on Sanctuary, A Witch's Tale and Pull Dark.
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Speaker 1: The series was inspired by the Foresight saga novels by
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Speaker 1: John Galsworthy.
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Speaker 2: This episode was directed by Mina Guar. She's a British
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Speaker 2: Indian filmmaker with seven previous directing credits. She will go
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Speaker 2: on to direct episodes two and three. Francesca Anas stars
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Speaker 2: as Ann Forced. She has one hundred fourteen acting credits
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Speaker 2: spanning seven decades in film, television and theater. Among her
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Speaker 2: many acting credits is the film Dune from nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 2: Danny Griffin stars as Julian ForSight Junior. He has just
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Speaker 2: ten previous acting credits, but Hallmark fans take note. He
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Speaker 2: did appear in the twenty twenty four movie Gilded Newport
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Speaker 2: mysteries Murder at the Breakers.
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Speaker 1: Interesting Tuppens Middleton stars as France's Foresight. Tuppens has fifty
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Speaker 1: seven acting credits, and you might recognize her from the
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Speaker 1: Netflix series CeNSE eight. She also appeared as Lucy Smith
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Speaker 1: in Downton Abbey and Downton Abbey A New Era. Do
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Speaker 1: you remember her? No, I don't know who Lucy Smith is.
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Speaker 1: There's a lot of characters. Who's Lucy Smith in Downton Abbey?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, in the first She was Lucy Smith in the
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Speaker 2: first project, and then she had a different last name
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Speaker 2: in the second project.
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Speaker 1: Oh I Know Who she is? Okay?
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Speaker 2: Justin Mmore appears as teenage June Fortsite. This is her
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Speaker 2: her eighth acting credit, and has appeared in Call the
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Speaker 2: Midwife and the mini series Without Sin.
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Speaker 1: Eleanor Tomlinson stars as Louisa Byrne. Eleanor has thirty four
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Speaker 1: acting credits, with roles in The Outlaws and pol Dark.
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Speaker 2: Stephen Moyer plays Jolian Foresight's senior. Stephen's best known for
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Speaker 2: his role as Bill on the series True Bled, where
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Speaker 2: he appeared in over eighty episodes. Most recently, he's appeared
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Speaker 2: on The Night Agent, as well as his series Elsbith.
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Speaker 1: Joshua Orpin stars as Solmes Foresight. Joshua has fourteen previous
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Speaker 1: acting credits, including the HBO series Titans and the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five remake of I Know What You Did Last Summer.
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Speaker 2: Jack Davenport plays Solmes's dad, James. Jack has seventy four
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Speaker 2: acting credits, with projects like the recent All's Fair on Hulu,
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Speaker 2: Elsbeth and the series Why Women Kill. Naomi Frederick plays
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Speaker 2: Solmes's mom Emily FORESIGHTE with twenty five acting credits. She's
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Speaker 2: also appeared on HBO's Industry. Meillie Gibson plays Irene Herron.
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Speaker 2: Her previous work includes Doctor Who and one hundred and
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Speaker 2: seventy two episodes of the British soap opera Coronation Street.
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Speaker 1: Fiona Button plays Clarissa Harron with twenty ninth acting credits.
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Speaker 1: She is known for her roles on The Split and
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Speaker 1: the HBO series Industry. There's a lot of crossover, ye
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Speaker 1: tons of crossover. Tristan Sturik appears briefly as Professor Herron.
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Speaker 1: He has forty four acting credits with roles in Industry
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Speaker 1: and Pol Dark. Eleanor Jackson plays Solmes's sister, Winifred Darty.
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Speaker 1: This is her seventh acting credit and largest role to date.
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Speaker 1: Tom Durrant Pritchard plays Montague Darty. Tom has appeared in
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Speaker 1: The Crown and the Windsors. Susan Hampshire appears as Lady
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Speaker 1: Carteret Susan Start in the original nineteen sixty seven BBC
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Speaker 1: The Foresight Saga and won the first of her three
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Speaker 1: Emmy Awards for that role. Oh When Ikahon appears as Isaac.
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Speaker 1: This is just his second acting credit. We're gonna take
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Speaker 1: a quick break and we're gonna come right back with
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Speaker 1: our first impressions. Hey, Wendy, what was your first impression
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Speaker 1: of The Foresights Episode one?
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Speaker 2: You know, I love a bad boy Pelm's hive rise up.
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Speaker 1: I'm just picturing the Instagram images. Awesome. My first impression
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Speaker 1: is no one told me I would need to hydrate
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Speaker 1: before watching this series Secret Twins in episode one? Who
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Speaker 1: saw that coming? Which is God? Answer to which is
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Speaker 1: probably everyone who is not new to the Foresight saga,
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Speaker 1: but not me. Love this series. I am telling you,
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Speaker 1: oh so far, my gosh, it is rapid fire. Let
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Speaker 1: me tell you right now, the difference between this show
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Speaker 1: and Down to Nabby. Down to Nabby is like, here's
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Speaker 1: a little bit of drama and now we're gonna sit
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Speaker 1: with it and process it. And this is like boom
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Speaker 1: boo boo boom. We are not waiting one second of
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Speaker 1: time here.
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Speaker 2: That is so interesting that you say that I will
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Speaker 2: have more to discuss when we talk episode two.
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Speaker 1: Here's what I liked.
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Speaker 2: This show is giving like rich people making well, actually
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Speaker 2: rich people behaving badly.
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Speaker 1: I love it, but also.
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Speaker 2: Like make it beautiful, Like, it's so pleasing to look
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Speaker 2: at everything from like the costume to the sets, the houses, Like,
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Speaker 2: I love all of it. Can you believe I'm saying that, Look,
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Speaker 2: it's the Real Housewives set almost two hundred years ago.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Except they don't like have screaming fights with each other.
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Speaker 2: You know, everything's very no but they're.
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Speaker 1: Real shady totally.
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Speaker 2: That's that's why I find it so kind of tantalizing.
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Speaker 1: When the Stone side of the family is gossiping about
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Speaker 1: their next door family. You're like, I love it, Yes, yes, yes.
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Speaker 2: I want to give credit to a friend at the show, Georgia.
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Speaker 2: She is a TV writer. She had to explain that
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Speaker 2: this show is Succession meets the guilded Age and for
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Speaker 2: someone who watched Succession but not the guilded Age, because
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Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not watching that period piece, it
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Speaker 2: is totally Succession for sure. It's a great, like a
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Speaker 2: great I've.
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Speaker 1: Only seen a few episodes of Succession, but I'm very
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Speaker 1: familiar with the premise and yeah, all the fighting for
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Speaker 1: power within the family. Yeah, So, like I mentioned, I
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Speaker 1: found this episode was a little bit exhausting, Like they
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Speaker 1: throw a lot of information at you, like I feel
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Speaker 1: like you kind of need to be paying attention to
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Speaker 1: get it. And I enjoy that. Like do you remember
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Speaker 1: when Netflix is like, yo, writers, dumb it down because
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Speaker 1: people are watching with their phones in their hand, and
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Speaker 1: I like that. This show is like, we're not going
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Speaker 1: to do that. Pay attention GTFO. Rightmm. So the opening
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Speaker 1: wedding sequence sets the scene so nicely. We have our
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Speaker 1: voice over from Grandmama, but it really sets up like
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Speaker 1: the family dynamic and it does such a nice job
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Speaker 1: of setting the scene and who's on whose side and
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Speaker 1: we have this wedding and we have this daughter and
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Speaker 1: cut to the reception and we build that relationship right
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Speaker 1: there with Joe and June. When she's like do I
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Speaker 1: have to like you? He's like no, and she's like
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Speaker 1: love because I don't like anybody, and I was like, girl,
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Speaker 1: same totally. I was like I feel you, June that
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Speaker 1: I put that on a T shirt. I don't like anybody.
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Speaker 1: And then they kind of come together when the grandmother's
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Speaker 1: like look be seen and not heard, like don't make waves,
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Speaker 1: and you know she Joe reaches out and takes her
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Speaker 1: hand and like you see right there, like there's that
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Speaker 1: little connection and past forward ten years and they still
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Speaker 1: have that.
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Speaker 2: I liked it me too, same, same, same. Like you said,
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Speaker 2: there's so much happening.
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Speaker 1: We have like.
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Speaker 2: It's not inheritance. I have in my notes this is inheritance,
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Speaker 2: but it's like who's running the business, Tension, secret children,
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Speaker 2: strategic marriages. You know, it feels like everybody is plotting something,
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Speaker 2: but it's also like this quiet betrayal and scandal. I'm
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Speaker 2: totally locked in on it. I love that you likened
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Speaker 2: it to Real Housewives two hundred years ago.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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Speaker 2: I'm also in this first episode kind of unsure of
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Speaker 2: who to root for.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I am a Solmes fan. That's so interesting. It's
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Speaker 1: the bad boy it's the bad Boy team Joe.
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Speaker 2: I just don't know where I land totally, And I
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Speaker 2: kind of love that confusing because we have Joe who's
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Speaker 2: like artistic and emotional and you know, maybe kind of
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Speaker 2: the renegade of the family that's being pushed into this,
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Speaker 2: like you are supposed to be this person. You know,
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Speaker 2: at some point he was like They're like, all right,
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Speaker 2: come back from your sabbatical and you gotta.
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Speaker 1: Like her travels.
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Speaker 2: Do the family businessing and marry this woman and et cetera,
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Speaker 2: et cetera. Right, and Solms, who was like a little
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Speaker 2: more ambitious, kind of toxic, calculated. You know, I'm drawn
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Speaker 2: to that obviously, but I can see like Solms is
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Speaker 2: the bad boy and Joe is probably the good guy.
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Speaker 2: But I like both of them, you know, So this
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Speaker 2: makes it fun, It makes it a fun watch. Homes
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Speaker 2: will grow on me, but in this episode, I don't
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Speaker 2: necessarily for me personally, I don't necessarily love a troublemaker.
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Speaker 2: And there's something about Joe who is doing the right
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Speaker 2: thing and not really complaining about it. At that wedding,
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Speaker 2: we hear that that was a planned wedding, like she
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Speaker 2: was chosen for a reason. But when he turns around
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Speaker 2: and looks at her, they both smile at each other
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Speaker 2: and it feels like, oh, this is okay. And we
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Speaker 2: see them fast forward and they seem to have a relationship.
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Speaker 2: They seem to have genuine affection for each other, and
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Speaker 2: obviously we will learn some things, but I'm like, look,
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Speaker 2: he's he's not just going.
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Speaker 1: Through the motions. At least it doesn't look that way
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Speaker 1: from the outside, Like he seems to be treating his
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Speaker 1: family and his job with reverence, and so I'm like,
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Speaker 1: it's not like you made me come home and now
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna check the boxes. He seems to be
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Speaker 1: doing it. He seems to be behaving like a good husband,
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Speaker 1: and at work, he's behaving thoughtfully and he has real
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Speaker 1: opinions about the things that they're doing, even though they're
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Speaker 1: different than a lot of the other opinions people are
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Speaker 1: having at work. To me, I'm like, he's doing it faithfully?
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Speaker 1: Is my point here? Yes? I agree? So I am
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Speaker 1: enjoying Jolian. Can we talk about the Foresight co for
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Speaker 1: a second? The jo Sure. Yeah. When they introduce that
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Speaker 1: mining stock plot, they're like, oh, that's going to be
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Speaker 1: taken over and I was like, okay, what's going on here?
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Speaker 1: And then it comes back around and it's so nice
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Speaker 1: because it's like a it's a vehicle that kind of
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Speaker 1: cements the rivalry between the way Joe and Somelm's want
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Speaker 1: to do things and Solme's going behind Joe's back to
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Speaker 1: make that decision that ultimately leads to the ruin of
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Speaker 1: Irene's family, and some's interesting. I like the way they
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Speaker 1: tie that in really nicely done, increasive writing and plot work.
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Speaker 1: Can we talk Joe boxing shirtless?
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Speaker 2: I mean all day long, I was like, PBS is like,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna keep it.
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Speaker 1: Classy, but we'll give you a little bit of something
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Speaker 1: something here. I didn't hate it.
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Speaker 2: I was like, it made it sexy without being like gratuitous.
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Speaker 1: You know, sure, I enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: A couple of other little things that I like, the
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Speaker 2: introduction of Louisa as the dressmaker, immediate intrigue because she
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Speaker 2: clocks who the foresights are like when she comes in
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, what's the relationship here, what's the secret,
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Speaker 2: what's happening.
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Speaker 1: I loved all of that.
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Speaker 2: But then when we get the big old bomb shot, well, actually,
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Speaker 2: let me back that up. When we have the reunion
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Speaker 2: between Joe and Louisa at June's party, yes, you know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I was like, Okay, this is interesting. But
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Speaker 2: then we see Francis noticing in the background yes, and
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Speaker 2: then Francis confirmed wants her, and then the bombshell of
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Speaker 2: here are my two children and this kid's name is Joe.
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Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap balls, Well that's what I
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Speaker 1: mean about this show. Like I think most shows might
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Speaker 1: have made us wait for all of that information, like
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Speaker 1: we may not have gotten the reveal of who Joe
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Speaker 1: was to Luisa and who her children. Like when the
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Speaker 1: children come out, I'm like, oh, my gosh, they're twins, right,
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Speaker 1: and so I'm like, and let me guess they're ten
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Speaker 1: years old. When I talk about the way that Joe
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Speaker 1: looks at Francis, I was like, there seems to be
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Speaker 1: real affection there. But when he sees Louisa, yes, I
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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's his girl. Like great acting on
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Speaker 1: the part of Danny Griffin because the difference in his
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Speaker 1: facial reactions to the two women is so striking, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, he loves her and isn't subtle about it, right,
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Speaker 1: Like he's in a room full of people the other
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Speaker 1: family clocked him talking. I know, I'm liked on the
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Speaker 1: down low dude his and obviously his wife sees her.
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Speaker 1: But I really love that they just hit us with
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Speaker 1: all of this information because obviously the rest of the
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Speaker 1: season is likely going to be the fallout from what
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Speaker 1: has come. So I'm glad we got to see all
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Speaker 1: of that. Everyone having the reveal in this first episode
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Speaker 1: right right.
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Speaker 2: The last thing I really liked is this time period
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Speaker 2: makes me deeply uncomfortable. Most mostly related to like the
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Speaker 2: social climbing and the transactional marriages, and that women are
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Speaker 2: kind of like currency a little bit, you know, like
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Speaker 2: marrying this person for this status, and like it gives
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Speaker 2: me like the super ick, but it lends itself to
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Speaker 2: understanding what's happening, you know, if I may. The whole
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Speaker 2: premise of Downton Abbey starts with they only have daughters,
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Speaker 2: and daughters cannot inherit and so the eldest daughter has
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Speaker 2: to marry someone who can inherit the family fortune.
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Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Anyway, I agree with you, and
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Speaker 1: I find Solmes's side of the family to be particularly
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Speaker 1: egregious because Solmes's father is the younger brother, right, he
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Speaker 1: doesn't have as much power or prestige, and so they're
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Speaker 1: just like fighting for it, especially the mom what's her name, Emily. Yes,
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Speaker 1: she behaves in such a I don't want to use
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Speaker 1: the word gross, but her behavior is kind of gross.
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Speaker 1: She's like, oh, what are we gonna get? Like who
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Speaker 1: are we gonna get for her little sommesy? And I
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Speaker 1: just am like, oh my gosh, you people. I agree
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Speaker 1: with you. It's kind of iggy. It's like, how are
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Speaker 1: we going to elevate our station in life? And yeah,
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Speaker 1: the way in which Francis uses June. She's like, oh, well,
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Speaker 1: I invited this family and this family and this family,
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Speaker 1: and Grandma's like, and why might you have done that?
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Speaker 1: And I'm just like, gross, this is your child and
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Speaker 1: you're using her as a pawn. And I have watched
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Speaker 1: enough of these shows to know that's exactly how it worked.
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Speaker 3: But it's gross.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. You mentioned the cinematography. The ballet sequence
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Speaker 1: was especially beautiful to me, the lighting, the way her
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Speaker 1: hair is down and flowing, the dress that she the
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Speaker 1: ballet dressed me. It's not a tutu. Really, it's stunningly beautiful.
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Speaker 2: I know, I can't get past. I'm like, ballerinas should
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Speaker 2: have their hair up in buns. Why is her hair
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Speaker 2: down and free flowing as she's dancing around?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, and that flows into one of
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Speaker 1: my wishes. If you're ready, Oh I am ready. There
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Speaker 1: are some anachronisms in this series. Tell me more so.
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Speaker 1: The hair is all wrong across the board. Really, women
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Speaker 1: do not wear their hair down in public ever, No,
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Speaker 1: their hair is up. Your hair would not be down
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Speaker 1: like that. Now. Is irene hair gorgeous? Yes? And if
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Speaker 1: you I think it's in the second episode where she's
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Speaker 1: dancing with other dancers, the other dancers have their hair
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Speaker 1: up and hers is I'm like you, No dancer has
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Speaker 1: their hair down and flowing. I understand her curls are beautiful,
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Speaker 1: but all these women have their hair down. No, their
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Speaker 1: hair would be up. The men would wear hats outside. Also,
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Speaker 1: Joe's hair way too boy bandy, fully outside of the
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Speaker 1: realm of reality. The facial hair now do I like it?
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Speaker 1: I do, but much like Bridgerton plays with this a
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Speaker 1: little bit. I know you haven't seen Bridgerton, but there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of people of color in the mix, which
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Speaker 1: would not have been the case. You know, there's a
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Speaker 1: lot that they're doing there as well, just to make
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Speaker 1: it more visually interesting and fun to watch. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: I'm not like, ugh, I can't believe they were unfaithful
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Speaker 1: to this. There are a lot of people out there,
20:51
Speaker 1: hop on Reddit they're big mad about some of the
20:54
Speaker 1: ways that the hair does not match. The time. To me,
20:57
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's okay. They don't always need to be
20:59
Speaker 1: in a freaking hair. But I like the long hair
21:03
Speaker 1: must be exhausting to be pinning it up every morning
21:06
Speaker 1: and letting it down every night, but it is worth noting.
21:10
Speaker 1: How do you know this?
21:11
Speaker 2: Is this from your years of watching down Nabby or
21:14
Speaker 2: just the internet?
21:16
Speaker 1: Okay?
21:17
Speaker 2: My hang up with Joe's look is the beard, because
21:21
Speaker 2: like we see him in his time in Venice, and
21:26
Speaker 2: he's got like these long, long, curly hair, right, which
21:29
Speaker 2: is great. That gives me a visual cue in time,
21:33
Speaker 2: but he's still got the same beard. And then he's
21:35
Speaker 2: got that beard when he gets married, and he's got
21:37
Speaker 2: that beard ten years later. I'm like, come on, yeah,
21:40
Speaker 2: is that the thing he couldn't let go of? Oh
21:44
Speaker 2: that's interesting for yourself?
21:46
Speaker 1: Or is it just that he looks real good with
21:47
Speaker 1: the beard?
21:48
Speaker 2: Yeah?
21:48
Speaker 1: Maybe?
21:50
Speaker 2: And you're right, his hair is real quafft, Like you know,
21:55
Speaker 2: I don't hate it, no, dude, Yeah, but just I
22:01
Speaker 2: need some a touch more clarity on like timeline, especially
22:05
Speaker 2: when we're going back so many years, like make the
22:08
Speaker 2: man look slightly different.
22:12
Speaker 1: Anyway.
22:13
Speaker 2: My next wish is in regards to the business side
22:19
Speaker 2: of things the family firm. I I just need a
22:23
Speaker 2: little bit more about what's at stake with the company,
22:28
Speaker 2: Like I don't know exactly what they do stocks Like
22:32
Speaker 2: are they traders?
22:33
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't know what that I'm
22:35
Speaker 1: going to be honest, Like I don't really fully know
22:37
Speaker 1: what stockbrokers do other than like you have a portfolio
22:40
Speaker 1: of clients and you like make sure that their portfolios,
22:44
Speaker 1: like they own the right stuff, right like when they
22:46
Speaker 1: sold off all that mining stock, so that because people
22:50
Speaker 1: were going to lose confidence once the new guy took over.
22:53
Speaker 1: None of that makes any sense to me, Yeah, like
22:55
Speaker 1: how the stock market works.
22:57
Speaker 2: And I would like to know like his store, Like
23:00
Speaker 2: obviously this is a family business. How did the two
23:03
Speaker 2: older brothers, James and Joe, Like how did they get there?
23:09
Speaker 2: Was it inherited? Is this their business? Was it their
23:11
Speaker 2: father's business? Like give me, give me some details. Yeah, yeah,
23:16
Speaker 2: I just need to know, like the investment that we're
23:18
Speaker 2: dealing with here, you know, like in terms of succession,
23:22
Speaker 2: like that was a father's multi billionaire business and the
23:26
Speaker 2: kids were part of it and they were going to
23:28
Speaker 2: inherit it or one of the kids was going to
23:32
Speaker 2: inherit you know what I mean. It's the same sort
23:33
Speaker 2: of thing but like give it a little bit more weight.
23:37
Speaker 2: So I'm understanding that.
23:39
Speaker 1: Correct. I hear you.
23:45
Speaker 2: If you skipped through our news and notes the cast breakdown,
23:50
Speaker 2: I don't blame you, because there's a lot of players here,
23:56
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and the amount of work that
23:59
Speaker 2: I had to do to go back and be like, Okay,
24:00
Speaker 2: who is this person?
24:01
Speaker 1: How are they related? Who is this person? How are
24:05
Speaker 1: they related?
24:05
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I need a vinn diagram?
24:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, there isn't meet the cast page on PBS. Did
24:13
Speaker 1: you see that? I didn't, And it's a little bit
24:15
Speaker 1: helpful because I have to admit that as I was
24:19
Speaker 1: as I was watching this show, it's the foresights, the
24:23
Speaker 1: definitive character guide. As I was watching this, I was like,
24:26
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what's Som's's mom's name, What SOM's his dad?
24:30
Speaker 1: I just and I was like, who are these people?
24:32
Speaker 1: They introduce so many of them, and then they kind
24:35
Speaker 1: of almost backwards engineer them, like we meet a lot
24:38
Speaker 1: of them before we know anything about them. And so
24:41
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that will probably
24:43
Speaker 1: get richer throughout the season. But they maybe could have
24:48
Speaker 1: like doled them out to us a little bit more slowly.
24:51
Speaker 2: Agree, agree, and in fact, like does Joe Senior even
24:56
Speaker 2: have a wife?
24:57
Speaker 1: Widowed father to Joe?
24:58
Speaker 2: So okay, but like they don't even talk about that,
25:02
Speaker 2: not that I just was like, Hall, no, I don't remember,
25:06
Speaker 2: don't remember.
25:07
Speaker 1: My final wish is.
25:12
Speaker 2: I'm embarrassed to even say it, but like I need
25:14
Speaker 2: more of the spice, like give me more shirtless scenes.
25:19
Speaker 1: We do get two more in episode two spoiler alert, But.
25:25
Speaker 2: I kind of I kind of like it was down
25:27
Speaker 2: mabby ever at times spicy, not.
25:31
Speaker 1: Any spicier than this, Like I mean, in my first season,
25:34
Speaker 1: you know, a man dies in bed with Oh, that's
25:39
Speaker 1: Lady Mary, but they don't show and I mean it's PBS,
25:41
Speaker 1: it's public access television. Yeah, so they walk a very
25:47
Speaker 1: careful line. I'm into it. Mm hmm, I'm into it.
25:51
Speaker 1: That's all I have for wishes? Did you have any more?
25:53
Speaker 1: I just there's a lot more details that I'm hoping
25:57
Speaker 1: for that I like I said, I think a lot
26:01
Speaker 1: of the drama is fired at us in episode one,
26:03
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna untangle all of that throughout the season.
26:07
Speaker 1: But we know that Solmes and Joe our rivals. Is
26:11
Speaker 1: it simply because somes by virtue of being the son
26:16
Speaker 1: of the second son, is in an inferior position? Or
26:22
Speaker 1: is there more there? Right? Right? Right?
26:25
Speaker 2: That's a great question. I have some discussion questions if
26:28
Speaker 2: you want to be.
26:29
Speaker 1: Cool, let's get into it. Do you think you would
26:31
Speaker 1: thrive in this time period? No? Why? Well? The only
26:36
Speaker 1: way in which I would thrive in this time period,
26:38
Speaker 1: and please feel free to judge me, is in a
26:44
Speaker 1: high society household, like where things are being done for me.
26:49
Speaker 1: Got it, got it, that's the truth. I was not
26:52
Speaker 1: meant for an uncomfortable life. I just life is so
26:55
Speaker 1: much harder. Getting around is harder, Your day is harder.
27:00
Speaker 1: There's less to do, Like you see Solmes's mom, especially
27:05
Speaker 1: in the second episode, just like sitting there with her
27:06
Speaker 1: dog while the dad's reading the newspaper. I'm like, don't
27:09
Speaker 1: you have something to do?
27:13
Speaker 2: Yeah? Especially you know a lady of a certain means, right,
27:18
Speaker 2: she's not cleaning or cooking, so she wouldn't have anything.
27:21
Speaker 1: But so much of your time like getting ready, You
27:24
Speaker 1: get ready for your day, and then you get ready
27:26
Speaker 1: for dinner, and then you perhaps have a visitor. I
27:31
Speaker 1: don't again, you don't know. Obviously I wouldn't have experienced
27:36
Speaker 1: life in twenty twenty six, so perhaps I don't know.
27:39
Speaker 1: Do you think you would thrive in this time period?
27:42
Speaker 2: No, I think that I would maybe have too many
27:48
Speaker 2: opinions about.
27:49
Speaker 1: Things, yeah, yeah, and things.
27:53
Speaker 2: Too much like when I'm twenty twenty six, windy, right
27:56
Speaker 2: time period?
27:58
Speaker 1: I don't know. So I tend to be a person
28:00
Speaker 1: who doesn't love to rock the boat. So when I
28:03
Speaker 1: see someone like the character of June, I find it
28:06
Speaker 1: very interesting. I'm like, Oh, this is a person who
28:07
Speaker 1: knows her own mind and does not want to be
28:09
Speaker 1: told what to do. And in a time where certainly
28:14
Speaker 1: feminism was not a strong driving factor, would I have
28:18
Speaker 1: had enough of an influence to know what I know
28:21
Speaker 1: and feel like? Would that be innate that I'd be like,
28:24
Speaker 1: what are you doing to me? I don't know? Yeah?
28:26
Speaker 1: Or do you not even know better at that time?
28:28
Speaker 1: You know? Yes? Like if if your mother is telling
28:32
Speaker 1: you that this is the way it is, do you
28:34
Speaker 1: just accept it or you know? What is it that
28:39
Speaker 1: that gives you that information? I don't know, right right?
28:43
Speaker 2: If you are Francis, yeah, I want to have about Francis,
28:47
Speaker 2: how quickly are you clocking the Luisa situation? At the party.
28:51
Speaker 1: Well, my husband reaches for her hand. Ye, And I
28:56
Speaker 1: saw the look on his face. And I'm not his wife.
28:59
Speaker 1: You are his wife. My point is I, as a viewer,
29:02
Speaker 1: saw the look on his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
29:05
Speaker 1: yeh yeah. And I think if that were my husband,
29:07
Speaker 1: I would be even more in tune with his emotional cues. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
29:13
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about Francis? Well, I
29:15
Speaker 1: just think she's such an interesting character and the connection
29:20
Speaker 1: we see that she has with Joe Senior. Yes, he's
29:27
Speaker 1: very interesting. It's almost like they're closer. Yes. Why didn't
29:32
Speaker 1: they get married? Well, because Joe didn't need the station
29:38
Speaker 1: boost that Joe Junior did. Okay, fair, Joe Senior was
29:43
Speaker 1: already in a position of power. Joe Junior needed the
29:47
Speaker 1: connection of Francis in order to bring him fully up
29:51
Speaker 1: to paw. Got it, got it, got it, got it,
29:54
Speaker 1: And she's the power in the power couple. Yeah. I
29:58
Speaker 1: just think that's one to watch Francis.
30:01
Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you think they're going to make Francis our villain?
30:04
Speaker 2: That's a great question, which is kind of sad. I mean,
30:08
Speaker 2: she's conniving to a extent. I mean she's she is
30:15
Speaker 2: very much into like what their status is and what
30:19
Speaker 2: they've been working for, And I'm quoting working for.
30:25
Speaker 1: She's just in a.
30:27
Speaker 2: Not a great position. She does need to protect, like
30:32
Speaker 2: her marriage, I guess.
30:34
Speaker 1: But also, well that's a great point because she's not
30:38
Speaker 1: a foresight. So as the wife of Jolian, what does
30:43
Speaker 1: she have should the marriage fall apart? I don't know. Yeah,
30:49
Speaker 1: what is she entitled to? Is she ruined if their
30:52
Speaker 1: marriage falls apart? Good question.
30:57
Speaker 2: My last question is we've talked about the Count of
31:01
Speaker 2: Monte Cristo and how much we like that after one
31:05
Speaker 2: episode of this series. Are you hooked or.
31:09
Speaker 1: Are you just intrigued? If I had to rate the
31:13
Speaker 1: series next to each other, I would say I like
31:15
Speaker 1: the Count of Monte Cristo more, but I am hooked
31:22
Speaker 1: by this series and interested to see where it goes.
31:24
Speaker 1: Where are you landing?
31:27
Speaker 2: They're so different very much. I'm enjoying both. Like. I
31:34
Speaker 2: love that this is in my schedule of things to watch.
31:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, who knew? I know. No one's more surprised
31:43
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