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Arbor Day Special: Yavanna and the Roots of Tolkien's World · Systematic Geekology

• 1:15
  Some
• 1:15
  there
• 1:16
  are
• 1:17
  who
• 1:17
  have
• 1:17
  seen
• 1:17
  her
• 1:18
  standing
• 1:18
  like
• 1:18
  a
• 1:18
  tree
• 1:18
  under
• 1:19
  heaven,
• 1:19
  crowned
• 1:20
  with
• 1:20
  the
• 1:20
  sun.
• 1:21
  And
• 1:21
  from
• 1:21
  all
• 1:21
  its
• 1:22
  branches
• 1:22
  there
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  spilled
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  a
• 1:23
  golden
• 1:23
  dew
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  upon
• 1:24
  the
• 1:24
  barren
• 1:24
  earth,
• 1:25
  and
• 1:25
  it
• 1:25
  grew
• 1:26
  green
• 1:26
  with
• 1:26
  corn.
• 1:27
  But
• 1:27
  the
• 1:27
  roots
• 1:27
  of
• 1:28
  the
• 1:28
  tree
• 1:28
  were
• 1:28
  in
• 1:28
  the
• 1:28
  waves
• 1:29
  of
• 1:29
  Olmo,
• 1:29
  and
• 1:29
  the
• 1:30
  winds
• 1:30
  of
• 1:30
  Manwe
• 1:30
  spoke
• 1:31
  in
• 1:31
  its
• 1:31
  leaves.
• 1:33
  That's
• 1:33
  right,
• 1:33
  guys.
• 1:34
  We're
• 1:34
  talking
• 1:34
  about
• 1:34
  the
• 1:34
  one
• 1:35
  and
• 1:35
  only
• 1:36
  your
• 1:36
  favorite
• 1:37
  valor
• 1:38
  this
• 1:38
  Arbor
• 1:38
  Day.
• 1:39
  Yavanna.
• 1:41
  We're
• 1:41
  talking
• 1:41
  about
• 1:41
  the
• 1:41
  face
• 1:42
  behind
• 1:42
  the.
• 1:43
  The
• 1:43
  face
• 1:43
  behind
• 1:43
  the
• 1:43
  two
• 1:43
  trees
• 1:44
  of
• 1:44
  Valinor,
• 1:44
  the
• 1:44
  face
• 1:45
  behind
• 1:45
  the
• 1:45
  Silmarils.
• 1:47
  It's
• 1:47
  going
• 1:47
  to
• 1:47
  be
• 1:47
  a
• 1:48
  fun
• 1:48
  one.
• 1:48
  If
• 1:48
  you
• 1:49
  like
• 1:49
  Lord
• 1:49
  of
• 1:49
  the
• 1:49
  Rings,
• 1:50
  Arda,
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  the
• 1:51
  Cosmics
• 1:52
  of
• 1:52
  Middle
• 1:53
  Earth.
• 1:53
  This
• 1:54
  is
• 1:54
  going
• 1:54
  to
• 1:54
  be
• 1:54
  a
• 1:54
  great
• 1:54
  episode
• 1:54
  for
• 1:55
  you.
• 1:55
  I'm
• 1:56
  Joshua
• 1:56
  Nol,
• 1:56
  and
• 1:57
  I'm
• 1:57
  here
• 1:57
  with
• 1:57
  the
• 1:57
  one
• 1:57
  and
• 1:58
  only
• 1:59
  Tolkien
• 2:00
  reincarnated,
• 2:01
  Nick
• 2:01
  Polk.
• 2:02
  How's
• 2:02
  it
• 2:02
  going?
• 2:03
  What's
• 2:03
  up,
• 2:03
  dude?
• 2:03
  Tolkien
• 2:04
  reincarnated.
• 2:05
  Wow.
• 2:05
  You
• 2:05
  know,
• 2:06
  my,
• 2:06
  my,
• 2:06
  my
• 2:07
  fa.
• 2:07
  His
• 2:07
  Fayar
• 2:08
  has
• 2:08
  entered,
• 2:08
  you
• 2:09
  know,
• 2:09
  my
• 2:09
  roar.
• 2:11
  It's
• 2:11
  great
• 2:11
  because
• 2:12
  he's
• 2:12
  rolling
• 2:12
  in
• 2:13
  his
• 2:13
  grave
• 2:13
  that
• 2:13
  we're
• 2:14
  talking
• 2:14
  about
• 2:14
  reincarnation,
• 2:15
  probably.
• 2:16
  No,
• 2:16
  dude,
• 2:17
  the
• 2:17
  elves
• 2:17
  reincarnate.
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  That's
• 2:19
  right.
• 2:19
  That's
• 2:20
  right.
• 2:20
  Yeah.
• 2:21
  He's
• 2:22
  the
• 2:22
  blame
• 2:22
  for
• 2:22
  us
• 2:22
  believing
• 2:23
  in
• 2:23
  reincarnation.
• 2:24
  It's
• 2:24
  all
• 2:24
  his
• 2:24
  fault.
• 2:25
  It's
• 2:25
  all
• 2:25
  his
• 2:26
  fault.
• 2:26
  Tolkien
• 2:27
  the
• 2:27
  Catholic.
• 2:28
  Okay.
• 2:31
  Oh,
• 2:32
  yeah.
• 2:32
  But
• 2:32
  stuff.
• 2:33
  Well,
• 2:34
  we
• 2:34
  had
• 2:34
  to
• 2:34
  talk
• 2:34
  about
• 2:34
  what
• 2:34
  we're
• 2:35
  geeking
• 2:35
  out
• 2:35
  on
• 2:35
  lately.
• 2:38
  You
• 2:38
  know,
• 2:38
  Weird
• 2:39
  one,
• 2:39
  weird
• 2:39
  one.
• 2:39
  I
• 2:39
  know
• 2:40
  this
• 2:40
  is
• 2:40
  like
• 2:41
  hard
• 2:41
  transition,
• 2:42
  but
• 2:43
  Scrubs
• 2:44
  came
• 2:44
  back.
• 2:44
  I'm
• 2:45
  loving
• 2:45
  the
• 2:45
  renewal.
• 2:46
  And
• 2:47
  my
• 2:47
  wife
• 2:47
  started
• 2:48
  watching
• 2:48
  the
• 2:48
  new
• 2:48
  episode
• 2:49
  with
• 2:49
  me
• 2:49
  and
• 2:49
  then
• 2:49
  was
• 2:50
  like,
• 2:50
  what
• 2:50
  if
• 2:50
  we
• 2:50
  rewatched
• 2:51
  the
• 2:51
  original
• 2:51
  Scrubs?
• 2:52
  She
• 2:52
  had
• 2:52
  never
• 2:52
  seen
• 2:52
  it,
• 2:52
  like,
• 2:53
  all
• 2:53
  the
• 2:53
  way
• 2:53
  through.
• 2:53
  She's
• 2:53
  seen
• 2:54
  parts
• 2:54
  of
• 2:54
  it,
• 2:54
  but,
• 2:54
  like,
• 2:55
  for
• 2:55
  me,
• 2:55
  it's
• 2:55
  like
• 2:55
  my
• 2:55
  comfort
• 2:56
  show.
• 2:56
  So
• 2:56
  I've
• 2:56
  seen
• 2:56
  it
• 2:56
  all
• 2:56
  the
• 2:56
  way
• 2:57
  through,
• 2:57
  like,
• 2:58
  more
• 2:58
  times
• 2:58
  than
• 2:58
  I
• 2:59
  care
• 2:59
  to
• 2:59
  say.
• 3:02
  Fun
• 3:03
  joke.
• 3:03
  And
• 3:03
  for
• 3:03
  my
• 3:03
  friend
• 3:04
  who's
• 3:04
  probably
• 3:04
  listening,
• 3:05
  when
• 3:05
  I
• 3:05
  was
• 3:05
  first
• 3:05
  introduced
• 3:06
  to
• 3:06
  Scrubs
• 3:06
  in
• 3:07
  college
• 3:08
  and
• 3:08
  he
• 3:09
  showed
• 3:09
  me
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  show,
• 3:10
  no
• 3:10
  one
• 3:10
  saw
• 3:10
  me
• 3:11
  for
• 3:11
  three
• 3:11
  days.
• 3:11
  I
• 3:11
  came
• 3:12
  back
• 3:12
  red
• 3:12
  eyed
• 3:13
  and
• 3:13
  they're
• 3:13
  like,
• 3:13
  where
• 3:14
  have
• 3:14
  you
• 3:14
  been,
• 3:14
  dude?
• 3:15
  And
• 3:15
  I'm
• 3:15
  like,
• 3:15
  you
• 3:16
  know,
• 3:16
  some
• 3:16
  people
• 3:16
  sleep.
• 3:17
  I
• 3:18
  watch
• 3:18
  Scrubs
• 3:18
  instead.
• 3:19
  I
• 3:20
  literally
• 3:20
  just
• 3:20
  watched
• 3:21
  it
• 3:21
  all
• 3:21
  straight
• 3:21
  through.
• 3:21
  No
• 3:22
  sleep,
• 3:22
  anything.
• 3:23
  Like,
• 3:23
  hyper
• 3:23
  fixated.
• 3:24
  And
• 3:24
  it
• 3:25
  hasn't
• 3:25
  left
• 3:25
  me
• 3:25
  since.
• 3:25
  Like,
• 3:26
  I
• 3:26
  love
• 3:26
  this
• 3:26
  show
• 3:27
  and
• 3:27
  I'm
• 3:27
  so
• 3:27
  excited
• 3:27
  to
• 3:28
  get
• 3:28
  to
• 3:28
  do
• 3:28
  a
• 3:28
  rewatch
• 3:28
  with
• 3:28
  my
• 3:29
  wife
• 3:29
  now.
• 3:30
  Not
• 3:30
  because
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  need
• 3:31
  a
• 3:31
  comfort
• 3:31
  show
• 3:31
  right
• 3:32
  now,
• 3:32
  but
• 3:32
  just
• 3:32
  because
• 3:33
  we're
• 3:33
  watching
• 3:34
  something
• 3:34
  together.
• 3:34
  It's
• 3:34
  great.
• 3:36
  Yeah,
• 3:36
  dude,
• 3:36
  that's
• 3:36
  Great.
• 3:37
  What
• 3:37
  have
• 3:37
  you
• 3:37
  been
• 3:37
  geeking
• 3:38
  out
• 3:38
  on,
• 3:39
  man?
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  just,
• 3:40
  you
• 3:40
  know,
• 3:41
  whenever
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  did
• 3:41
  the
• 3:42
  Scrubs,
• 3:42
  man,
• 3:42
  I
• 3:42
  remember
• 3:43
  watching
• 3:43
  it
• 3:43
  in
• 3:43
  high
• 3:44
  school
• 3:44
  and
• 3:44
  then
• 3:44
  watching
• 3:45
  it
• 3:45
  again
• 3:45
  with
• 3:45
  my
• 3:46
  friends
• 3:46
  my
• 3:46
  freshman
• 3:47
  year
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  college,
• 3:47
  too.
• 3:48
  So
• 3:48
  high
• 3:49
  school
• 3:49
  and
• 3:49
  college
• 3:50
  memories
• 3:50
  with
• 3:50
  Scrubs.
• 3:51
  Nice.
• 3:51
  Yeah.
• 3:52
  Yeah.
• 3:52
  I
• 3:52
  need
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  watch.
• 3:53
  I
• 3:53
  need
• 3:53
  to
• 3:53
  give
• 3:53
  it.
• 3:53
  So
• 3:53
  it
• 3:53
  is
• 3:54
  good.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  need
• 3:54
  to.
• 3:54
  I
• 3:54
  need
• 3:54
  to
• 3:54
  give
• 3:55
  it
• 3:55
  a
• 3:55
  go.
• 3:56
  It's.
• 3:58
  I
• 3:58
  think
• 3:58
  it's
• 3:58
  good.
• 3:59
  I
• 3:59
  think
• 3:59
  you
• 4:00
  would
• 4:00
  like
• 4:00
  it.
• 4:00
  You
• 4:00
  know
• 4:01
  how,
• 4:01
  like,
• 4:01
  some
• 4:02
  Lord
• 4:02
  of
• 4:02
  the
• 4:02
  Rings
• 4:02
  fans
• 4:03
  get
• 4:03
  upset
• 4:03
  about,
• 4:03
  like,
• 4:04
  the
• 4:04
  Hobbit
• 4:05
  or
• 4:05
  the
• 4:05
  new
• 4:05
  show
• 4:06
  or
• 4:06
  whatever.
• 4:06
  Like,
• 4:06
  wait
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  minute.
• 4:07
  We
• 4:07
  don't
• 4:07
  like
• 4:07
  how
• 4:07
  this
• 4:07
  was.
• 4:08
  You
• 4:08
  know,
• 4:08
  there's.
• 4:09
  There
• 4:09
  are
• 4:09
  some
• 4:09
  people
• 4:09
  who
• 4:09
  are
• 4:09
  butthurt
• 4:10
  by
• 4:10
  some
• 4:10
  stuff,
• 4:10
  but
• 4:11
  I'm
• 4:11
  like,
• 4:11
  I
• 4:12
  think
• 4:12
  it
• 4:12
  makes
• 4:12
  sense,
• 4:12
  and
• 4:13
  I'm
• 4:13
  just
• 4:13
  gonna
• 4:13
  roll
• 4:13
  with
• 4:13
  it.
• 4:14
  It's
• 4:14
  fine,
• 4:14
  guys.
• 4:15
  Yeah.
• 4:15
  I'm
• 4:15
  here
• 4:15
  for
• 4:15
  a
• 4:16
  good
• 4:16
  time.
• 4:17
  Yeah.
• 4:18
  If
• 4:18
  you
• 4:18
  like
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  laughs
• 4:19
  and
• 4:19
  the
• 4:19
  whatever
• 4:19
  and
• 4:20
  you're
• 4:20
  not
• 4:20
  like,
• 4:20
  super
• 4:20
  attached
• 4:21
  to
• 4:21
  any
• 4:21
  particular
• 4:22
  storyline
• 4:23
  and
• 4:23
  you're
• 4:23
  just
• 4:23
  there
• 4:24
  for
• 4:24
  fun,
• 4:24
  it's
• 4:25
  great.
• 4:25
  Heck,
• 4:26
  yeah,
• 4:26
  dude.
• 4:27
  You
• 4:27
  know,
• 4:27
  I'm
• 4:27
  nerding
• 4:28
  out
• 4:28
  on
• 4:29
  two
• 4:29
  things,
• 4:30
  really.
• 4:30
  So
• 4:31
  I
• 4:31
  went
• 4:31
  to
• 4:31
  Ireland
• 4:32
  for
• 4:32
  spring
• 4:32
  break
• 4:33
  and
• 4:35
  this,
• 4:35
  this
• 4:35
  year,
• 4:36
  last
• 4:36
  couple
• 4:37
  weeks
• 4:37
  ago.
• 4:38
  And
• 4:38
  so
• 4:38
  I
• 4:39
  like
• 4:39
  Irish
• 4:39
  and
• 4:40
  I'm.
• 4:40
  Like,
• 4:40
  corned
• 4:40
  beef,
• 4:41
  dude.
• 4:41
  Yeah,
• 4:42
  Straight
• 4:42
  corned
• 4:42
  beef
• 4:42
  potatoes.
• 4:43
  You
• 4:44
  know,
• 4:44
  Guinness.
• 4:44
  I
• 4:45
  did
• 4:45
  drink
• 4:45
  a
• 4:45
  ton
• 4:45
  of
• 4:45
  Guinness.
• 4:47
  Good.
• 4:48
  But
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  like.
• 4:48
  I
• 4:48
  like
• 4:49
  literature
• 4:50
  and
• 4:51
  I
• 4:51
  got
• 4:51
  some
• 4:51
  James
• 4:52
  Joyce,
• 4:53
  and
• 4:54
  I'm
• 4:54
  kind
• 4:54
  of
• 4:54
  geeking
• 4:55
  out
• 4:55
  on
• 4:55
  a
• 4:55
  little
• 4:55
  James
• 4:56
  Joyce
• 4:56
  recently
• 4:57
  and
• 4:58
  then.
• 4:59
  And,
• 5:01
  you
• 5:02
  know,
• 5:03
  other
• 5:03
  one
• 5:03
  is
• 5:04
  the
• 5:04
  new
• 5:05
  anime
• 5:05
  Rooster
• 5:06
  Fighter.
• 5:07
  And
• 5:07
  I've
• 5:08
  just
• 5:08
  gotten
• 5:08
  so
• 5:08
  excited
• 5:09
  for
• 5:09
  each
• 5:09
  new
• 5:09
  episode,
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  it
• 5:11
  is
• 5:11
  just
• 5:12
  absurd,
• 5:13
  fantastic
• 5:14
  animation,
• 5:15
  and
• 5:16
  it's
• 5:17
  kind
• 5:17
  of
• 5:17
  amazing.
• 5:18
  Rooster
• 5:19
  Fighter.
• 5:19
  Yeah,
• 5:22
  it's
• 5:22
  on.
• 5:23
  I
• 5:23
  think
• 5:23
  it's
• 5:23
  on
• 5:23
  Crunchyroll,
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  course,
• 5:25
  but
• 5:25
  it's
• 5:25
  on
• 5:25
  Disney
• 5:26
  and
• 5:26
  Hulu
• 5:27
  as
• 5:27
  well.
• 5:28
  Nice.
• 5:28
  I
• 5:29
  have
• 5:29
  to
• 5:29
  check
• 5:29
  it
• 5:29
  out.
• 5:29
  That
• 5:30
  actually,
• 5:31
  I
• 5:31
  love
• 5:31
  animation.
• 5:33
  I'm
• 5:33
  a
• 5:33
  nerd.
• 5:34
  But,
• 5:35
  you
• 5:35
  know,
• 5:35
  that's
• 5:35
  why
• 5:35
  we
• 5:36
  do
• 5:36
  this,
• 5:36
  because
• 5:36
  we're
• 5:36
  geeks.
• 5:37
  Yeah.
• 5:38
  Speaking
• 5:38
  of
• 5:38
  which,
• 5:38
  if
• 5:39
  you're
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  geek
• 5:39
  for
• 5:39
  this
• 5:39
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• 5:40
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• 5:40
  rating
• 5:41
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• 5:41
  reviewing
• 5:41
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• 5:41
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• 5:42
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• 5:42
  your
• 5:42
  podcast.
• 5:42
  If
• 5:42
  it's
• 5:43
  Spotify,
• 5:43
  Apple,
• 5:44
  podcasts,
• 5:44
  wherever
• 5:45
  the
• 5:45
  rates,
• 5:46
  the
• 5:46
  reviews,
• 5:46
  all
• 5:46
  that
• 5:47
  stuff
• 5:47
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• 5:47
  flag
• 5:48
  it
• 5:48
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• 5:48
  algorithms
• 5:48
  so
• 5:48
  that
• 5:49
  people
• 5:49
  think
• 5:49
  this
• 5:49
  show's
• 5:50
  important
• 5:50
  and
• 5:50
  we'll
• 5:50
  give
• 5:50
  it
• 5:50
  a
• 5:50
  listen,
• 5:51
  and
• 5:51
  that
• 5:51
  helps
• 5:51
  us
• 5:51
  out
• 5:51
  and
• 5:52
  we
• 5:52
  appreciate
• 5:52
  it.
• 5:53
  Also,
• 5:53
  what
• 5:53
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• 5:54
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• 5:54
  out
• 5:54
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• 5:54
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• 5:55
  financial
• 5:55
  supporters
• 5:55
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• 5:56
  the
• 5:56
  show.
• 5:56
  We
• 5:57
  love
• 5:57
  all
• 5:57
  of
• 5:57
  them.
• 5:57
  Today
• 5:57
  we're
• 5:58
  especially
• 5:58
  shouting
• 5:58
  out
• 5:59
  Trip
• 5:59
  Fuller,
• 6:00
  because
• 6:00
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• 6:00
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• 6:00
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• 6:00
  to
• 6:00
  shout
• 6:01
  out
• 6:01
  a
• 6:01
  Financial
• 6:02
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• 6:03
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• 6:03
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• 6:03
  Lord
• 6:04
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• 6:04
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• 6:04
  Rings
• 6:04
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• 6:04
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• 6:05
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• 6:05
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• 6:05
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• 6:05
  to
• 6:05
  be
• 6:05
  Tripp.
• 6:07
  Absolutely.
• 6:07
  What
• 6:08
  a
• 6:08
  guy.
• 6:08
  What
• 6:08
  a
• 6:09
  freaking
• 6:09
  guy.
• 6:10
  Awesome
• 6:10
  guy.
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  if
• 6:12
  you
• 6:12
  want
• 6:12
  to
• 6:12
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• 6:12
  him
• 6:12
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• 6:12
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• 6:12
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• 6:13
  us,
• 6:13
  theology
• 6:14
  Beer
• 6:14
  Camp
• 6:14
  2026
• 6:15
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• 6:15
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• 6:16
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• 6:16
  Maybe
• 6:16
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• 6:17
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• 6:17
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• 6:17
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• 6:17
  description
• 6:17
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• 6:18
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• 6:18
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• 6:19
  He
• 6:19
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• 6:19
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• 6:19
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• 6:20
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• 6:22
  You
• 6:22
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• 6:22
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• 6:22
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• 6:22
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• 6:22
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• 6:23
  shout
• 6:23
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• 6:23
  If
• 6:23
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• 6:23
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• 6:24
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• 6:24
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• 6:24
  like
• 6:24
  Tripp,
• 6:24
  you
• 6:24
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• 6:25
  get
• 6:25
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• 6:25
  own
• 6:25
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• 6:25
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• 6:25
  Become
• 6:25
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• 6:26
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• 6:26
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• 6:26
  of
• 6:26
  Systemic
• 6:27
  Ecology
• 6:27
  on
• 6:27
  our
• 6:27
  website.
• 6:28
  That's
• 6:28
  in
• 6:28
  the
• 6:28
  show's
• 6:28
  description.
• 6:29
  Same
• 6:29
  website.
• 6:30
  You
• 6:30
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• 6:30
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• 6:31
  this
• 6:31
  really
• 6:31
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• 6:32
  T
• 6:32
  shirt
• 6:32
  that's
• 6:33
  up
• 6:33
  right
• 6:33
  here.
• 6:34
  The
• 6:35
  Faces
• 6:35
  Behind
• 6:35
  Us,
• 6:36
  the
• 6:36
  series
• 6:36
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• 6:36
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• 6:37
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• 6:37
  right
• 6:37
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• 6:38
  our
• 6:38
  annual
• 6:38
  theme
• 6:39
  of
• 6:39
  2026
• 6:39
  on
• 6:39
  seismic
• 6:40
  theology,
• 6:40
  which
• 6:40
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• 6:41
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• 6:41
  shirt
• 6:41
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• 6:41
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• 6:41
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• 6:41
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• 6:42
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• 6:44
  It's
• 6:44
  the
• 6:44
  only
• 6:44
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• 6:44
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• 6:45
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• 6:45
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• 6:45
  I
• 6:45
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• 6:45
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• 6:45
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• 6:46
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• 6:46
  in
• 6:46
  purple.
• 6:47
  So
• 6:47
  if
• 6:47
  you
• 6:47
  like
• 6:48
  purple,
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  got
• 6:49
  to
• 6:49
  get
• 6:49
  this
• 6:49
  one.
• 6:49
  It's
• 6:50
  awesome.
• 6:50
  I
• 6:51
  love
• 6:51
  this
• 6:51
  shirt.
• 6:51
  My
• 6:51
  favorite
• 6:52
  color.
• 6:53
  It's
• 6:54
  so
• 6:54
  good.
• 6:54
  So,
• 6:54
  yeah,
• 6:55
  yeah.
• 6:55
  Guys,
• 6:55
  check
• 6:56
  out
• 6:56
  the
• 6:56
  shirt.
• 6:56
  Think
• 6:56
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• 6:56
  grabbing
• 6:57
  it,
• 6:57
  support
• 6:57
  the
• 6:58
  show,
• 6:58
  give
• 6:58
  us
• 6:58
  a
• 6:59
  little
• 6:59
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• 6:59
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• 6:59
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• 6:59
  we
• 6:59
  can
• 7:00
  keep
• 7:00
  recording
• 7:01
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• 7:01
  find
• 7:01
  a
• 7:02
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• 7:02
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• 7:02
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• 7:02
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• 7:02
  go
• 7:02
  to
• 7:02
  Kansas
• 7:03
  City.
• 7:05
  Also,
• 7:05
  if
• 7:05
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• 7:06
  want
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
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• 7:06
  more
• 7:06
  of
• 7:06
  our
• 7:06
  Faces
• 7:07
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• 7:07
  Us
• 7:07
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• 7:08
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• 7:08
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• 7:08
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• 7:08
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• 7:08
  playlist
• 7:08
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• 7:09
  the
• 7:09
  entire
• 7:09
  series
• 7:09
  for
• 7:10
  our
• 7:10
  annual
• 7:10
  theme
• 7:10
  in
• 7:11
  the
• 7:11
  show's
• 7:11
  description.
• 7:12
  A
• 7:12
  lot
• 7:12
  of
• 7:12
  links
• 7:13
  down
• 7:13
  there.
• 7:13
  All
• 7:14
  good
• 7:14
  stuff.
• 7:14
  Check
• 7:15
  them
• 7:15
  out.
• 7:16
  Speaking
• 7:17
  of
• 7:17
  things,
• 7:17
  you
• 7:17
  need
• 7:18
  to
• 7:18
  check
• 7:18
  out
• 7:19
  links.
• 7:20
  Nick
• 7:21
  Polk
• 7:22
  and
• 7:22
  the
• 7:23
  Silmarillion.
• 7:25
  Gotta
• 7:25
  check
• 7:26
  them
• 7:26
  all
• 7:26
  out.
• 7:32
  So
• 7:32
  today
• 7:33
  we
• 7:33
  are
• 7:33
  gonna
• 7:33
  be
• 7:33
  talking
• 7:34
  about
• 7:35
  Yavanna,
• 7:36
  because
• 7:36
  it's
• 7:36
  Arbor
• 7:37
  Day.
• 7:37
  We
• 7:37
  love
• 7:37
  celebrating
• 7:38
  Arbor
• 7:38
  Day.
• 7:38
  It's
• 7:38
  something
• 7:39
  we
• 7:39
  do
• 7:39
  every
• 7:39
  year
• 7:40
  with
• 7:40
  various
• 7:40
  different
• 7:41
  episodes.
• 7:41
  I
• 7:41
  might
• 7:41
  link
• 7:42
  some
• 7:42
  of
• 7:42
  those
• 7:42
  down
• 7:42
  below,
• 7:42
  too,
• 7:42
  if
• 7:43
  you
• 7:43
  want
• 7:43
  to
• 7:43
  hear
• 7:43
  Old
• 7:43
  years.
• 7:44
  One
• 7:44
  year,
• 7:45
  I
• 7:45
  think
• 7:45
  Nick
• 7:45
  and
• 7:46
  I
• 7:46
  did
• 7:46
  talk
• 7:46
  about
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  Ents
• 7:48
  in
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  Entwives.
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  think
• 7:49
  we
• 7:50
  had
• 7:50
  an
• 7:50
  episode.
• 7:50
  We
• 7:50
  were
• 7:50
  discussing
• 7:51
  that
• 7:51
  a
• 7:51
  little
• 7:51
  bit.
• 7:51
  Yeah,
• 7:52
  we
• 7:52
  did.
• 7:53
  Yeah.
• 7:53
  Yeah.
• 7:54
  Because
• 7:54
  Nick
• 7:54
  was
• 7:54
  a
• 7:54
  former
• 7:55
  host.
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  don't
• 7:55
  remember
• 7:55
  if
• 7:56
  you
• 7:56
  were
• 7:56
  a
• 7:56
  host
• 7:56
  at
• 7:56
  that
• 7:56
  point
• 7:57
  or
• 7:57
  if
• 7:57
  you
• 7:57
  were
• 7:57
  a
• 7:57
  guesting
• 7:58
  then,
• 7:58
  but,
• 7:58
  like,
• 7:59
  you
• 8:00
  know,
• 8:01
  either
• 8:01
  way.
• 8:02
  Either
• 8:02
  way,
• 8:03
  they
• 8:03
  should
• 8:03
  listen
• 8:03
  to
• 8:04
  it.
• 8:04
  100%
• 8:05
  because
• 8:06
  that
• 8:06
  was
• 8:06
  an
• 8:06
  Arbor
• 8:07
  Day
• 8:07
  episode,
• 8:07
  right?
• 8:08
  Yeah.
• 8:08
  Yeah.
• 8:09
  I
• 8:09
  do
• 8:09
  a
• 8:09
  lot
• 8:09
  of
• 8:10
  Arbor
• 8:10
  Day.
• 8:10
  I
• 8:10
  love
• 8:10
  Arbor
• 8:11
  Day.
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  love
• 8:11
  Arbor
• 8:11
  Day.
• 8:13
  I
• 8:13
  have
• 8:13
  a
• 8:14
  membership
• 8:14
  to
• 8:15
  whatever
• 8:15
  it's
• 8:15
  called,
• 8:16
  the
• 8:16
  Arbor
• 8:16
  Day
• 8:16
  foundation
• 8:17
  or
• 8:17
  whatever
• 8:17
  the
• 8:17
  heck
• 8:18
  it
• 8:18
  is.
• 8:19
  I
• 8:19
  have
• 8:19
  two
• 8:20
  maples
• 8:20
  from
• 8:20
  the
• 8:21
  Arbor
• 8:21
  Day
• 8:21
  foundation
• 8:22
  in
• 8:22
  my
• 8:22
  front
• 8:22
  yard.
• 8:23
  Yeah,
• 8:23
  if
• 8:24
  I
• 8:24
  was
• 8:24
  better,
• 8:24
  I
• 8:25
  would.
• 8:25
  We're
• 8:25
  figuring
• 8:26
  out
• 8:26
  what
• 8:26
  trees
• 8:26
  we
• 8:26
  want
• 8:27
  because
• 8:27
  we
• 8:27
  got
• 8:28
  a
• 8:28
  New
• 8:28
  house
• 8:28
  last
• 8:29
  year
• 8:30
  and
• 8:30
  we
• 8:30
  didn't
• 8:30
  want
• 8:30
  to
• 8:30
  plant
• 8:31
  stuff
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  first
• 8:31
  year.
• 8:31
  We've
• 8:32
  been
• 8:32
  kind
• 8:32
  of
• 8:32
  like,
• 8:32
  waiting
• 8:32
  to
• 8:33
  plan
• 8:33
  it
• 8:33
  out.
• 8:33
  And
• 8:33
  this
• 8:33
  year
• 8:34
  we're
• 8:34
  figuring
• 8:35
  out
• 8:35
  some
• 8:35
  trees
• 8:35
  in
• 8:35
  the
• 8:35
  backyard.
• 8:35
  We're
• 8:36
  going
• 8:36
  to
• 8:36
  get
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  weeping
• 8:36
  cherry.
• 8:37
  Oh,
• 8:38
  that
• 8:38
  sounds
• 8:38
  so
• 8:38
  sick,
• 8:39
  dude.
• 8:39
  Oh,
• 8:39
  yeah,
• 8:39
  it's
• 8:39
  going
• 8:40
  to
• 8:40
  be
• 8:40
  great.
• 8:41
  But
• 8:42
  other
• 8:42
  than
• 8:42
  trees,
• 8:43
  we
• 8:43
  want
• 8:43
  to
• 8:43
  talk
• 8:44
  about
• 8:45
  the
• 8:45
  Silmarillion,
• 8:47
  Arda,
• 8:47
  Lord
• 8:47
  of
• 8:48
  the
• 8:48
  Rings,
• 8:48
  Middle
• 8:48
  Earth,
• 8:49
  whatever
• 8:49
  other
• 8:50
  nouns
• 8:50
  you
• 8:50
  guys
• 8:50
  want
• 8:50
  to
• 8:51
  hear.
• 8:51
  That's
• 8:51
  what
• 8:52
  we're
• 8:52
  talking
• 8:52
  about
• 8:52
  today.
• 8:52
  And
• 8:53
  some
• 8:53
  little
• 8:54
  background
• 8:54
  so
• 8:54
  they
• 8:54
  know
• 8:55
  the
• 8:55
  gist.
• 8:56
  Right.
• 8:56
  So
• 8:56
  we're
• 8:56
  talking
• 8:56
  about
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  Faces
• 8:57
  behind
• 8:57
  us.
• 8:58
  That's
• 8:58
  our
• 8:58
  annual
• 8:58
  theme.
• 8:58
  We're
• 8:59
  talking
• 8:59
  not
• 8:59
  about
• 8:59
  the
• 8:59
  main
• 8:59
  characters,
• 9:00
  but
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  characters
• 9:00
  behind
• 9:01
  the
• 9:01
  main
• 9:01
  characters
• 9:03
  and
• 9:03
  the
• 9:04
  Silverilion.
• 9:04
  It's
• 9:05
  kind
• 9:05
  of
• 9:05
  hard
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  figure
• 9:05
  out
• 9:05
  who
• 9:06
  the
• 9:06
  main
• 9:06
  characters
• 9:06
  and
• 9:06
  stuff
• 9:06
  are,
• 9:07
  I
• 9:07
  guess,
• 9:07
  or
• 9:08
  the
• 9:08
  Ents.
• 9:08
  But
• 9:09
  Yavanna
• 9:09
  is
• 9:09
  definitely
• 9:10
  one
• 9:10
  of
• 9:10
  those
• 9:10
  faces
• 9:11
  that
• 9:11
  you're
• 9:11
  like,
• 9:11
  this
• 9:12
  character
• 9:12
  is
• 9:12
  kind
• 9:12
  of
• 9:13
  behind
• 9:13
  the
• 9:13
  scenes
• 9:13
  of
• 9:13
  everything
• 9:14
  that
• 9:14
  goes
• 9:14
  on
• 9:14
  in
• 9:15
  Middle
• 9:15
  Earth.
• 9:15
  Like,
• 9:16
  everything.
• 9:18
  So
• 9:18
  I'm
• 9:18
  excited
• 9:18
  to
• 9:19
  get
• 9:19
  into
• 9:19
  it.
• 9:19
  But
• 9:20
  first,
• 9:20
  Nick,
• 9:21
  could
• 9:21
  you,
• 9:21
  for
• 9:22
  those
• 9:22
  who
• 9:22
  may
• 9:22
  not
• 9:23
  know,
• 9:23
  could
• 9:23
  you
• 9:23
  explain
• 9:24
  who
• 9:24
  are
• 9:24
  the
• 9:24
  Valor,
• 9:25
  what
• 9:25
  are
• 9:25
  the
• 9:26
  two
• 9:26
  Trees
• 9:26
  of
• 9:26
  Alinor?
• 9:27
  And
• 9:28
  who
• 9:28
  are
• 9:28
  the
• 9:28
  Ents,
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  Silmarillion,
• 9:29
  the
• 9:30
  Silmarils,
• 9:31
  what
• 9:31
  are
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  Silmarils,
• 9:32
  etc.
• 9:33
  Yeah,
• 9:33
  so
• 9:33
  I'll
• 9:34
  kind
• 9:34
  of
• 9:34
  start
• 9:34
  from
• 9:34
  the
• 9:34
  beginning
• 9:35
  there.
• 9:35
  Yeah.
• 9:36
  So
• 9:37
  I
• 9:37
  love
• 9:37
  this
• 9:38
  is
• 9:38
  asking
• 9:38
  a
• 9:39
  Tolkien
• 9:39
  nerd
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  info
• 9:40
  dump
• 9:40
  about
• 9:40
  the
• 9:40
  Silmarillion.
• 9:42
  Yes,
• 9:42
  please.
• 9:44
  Yeah,
• 9:44
  I
• 9:44
  can't
• 9:44
  wait.
• 9:45
  I'm
• 9:45
  excited.
• 9:47
  So,
• 9:47
  you
• 9:47
  know,
• 9:48
  for
• 9:48
  those
• 9:48
  who
• 9:48
  don't
• 9:48
  know
• 9:48
  if
• 9:49
  you've
• 9:49
  only
• 9:49
  seen
• 9:49
  the
• 9:49
  movies
• 9:50
  or
• 9:50
  if
• 9:51
  you.
• 9:51
  Maybe
• 9:51
  you've
• 9:51
  only
• 9:51
  seen
• 9:52
  the
• 9:52
  TV
• 9:52
  show
• 9:52
  or
• 9:53
  maybe
• 9:53
  you've
• 9:53
  just
• 9:53
  read
• 9:53
  the
• 9:54
  books,
• 9:55
  you
• 9:55
  know,
• 9:56
  everyone
• 9:56
  is
• 9:56
  familiar
• 9:57
  with
• 9:57
  Treebeard
• 9:58
  or
• 9:58
  at
• 9:58
  least
• 9:58
  the
• 9:58
  Ants.
• 9:59
  And
• 10:00
  so
• 10:00
  they're
• 10:01
  cool
• 10:01
  tree
• 10:02
  people,
• 10:02
  which
• 10:02
  is
• 10:03
  really
• 10:03
  neat.
• 10:04
  And
• 10:04
  where
• 10:05
  do
• 10:05
  they
• 10:05
  come
• 10:05
  from?
• 10:06
  And
• 10:06
  I
• 10:07
  will
• 10:07
  tell
• 10:07
  you
• 10:07
  where
• 10:07
  they
• 10:08
  come
• 10:08
  from.
• 10:10
  But,
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  know,
• 10:10
  we'll
• 10:11
  start
• 10:11
  a
• 10:12
  little
• 10:12
  before
• 10:12
  I
• 10:13
  get
• 10:13
  to,
• 10:13
  like,
• 10:13
  where
• 10:13
  they
• 10:13
  come
• 10:14
  from.
• 10:14
  We're
• 10:14
  going
• 10:14
  to
• 10:14
  go
• 10:14
  all
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  way
• 10:15
  to
• 10:15
  the
• 10:15
  beginning.
• 10:16
  And
• 10:16
  I
• 10:16
  did
• 10:17
  an
• 10:17
  episode
• 10:17
  with
• 10:18
  Will
• 10:18
  and
• 10:18
  Trip
• 10:19
  on
• 10:19
  here
• 10:20
  for.
• 10:20
  For
• 10:20
  another
• 10:20
  episode
• 10:21
  of
• 10:21
  the
• 10:21
  Faces
• 10:23
  Behind.
• 10:24
  What
• 10:24
  is
• 10:25
  it?
• 10:25
  Yes.
• 10:25
  Yeah,
• 10:26
  the
• 10:26
  Faces
• 10:26
  behind
• 10:26
  us.
• 10:27
  It
• 10:27
  was
• 10:27
  a
• 10:29
  website
• 10:29
  exclusive,
• 10:30
  but
• 10:30
  it's
• 10:31
  available
• 10:31
  for
• 10:31
  free,
• 10:32
  so
• 10:33
  you
• 10:33
  still
• 10:33
  should
• 10:34
  go
• 10:34
  to
• 10:34
  the
• 10:34
  website.
• 11:47
  But
• 11:47
  yeah,
• 11:48
  so
• 11:48
  we
• 11:48
  talked
• 11:48
  about
• 11:48
  the
• 11:49
  beginning
• 11:49
  of
• 11:50
  the
• 11:51
  universe,
• 11:51
  the
• 11:52
  Tolkien
• 11:52
  universe,
• 11:53
  and
• 11:53
  it
• 11:53
  is
• 11:53
  in
• 11:54
  the
• 11:54
  Aina
• 11:54
  Lindele
• 11:54
  and
• 11:55
  the
• 11:55
  Silmarillion.
• 11:56
  And
• 11:56
  so
• 11:56
  in
• 11:56
  the
• 11:56
  beginning,
• 11:57
  there's
• 11:57
  one
• 11:57
  Monotheistic
• 11:58
  God.
• 11:58
  And
• 11:59
  then
• 11:59
  there
• 11:59
  are
• 12:00
  different
• 12:01
  beings.
• 12:02
  And
• 12:02
  I
• 12:03
  won't
• 12:03
  focus
• 12:03
  on
• 12:03
  all
• 12:03
  the
• 12:04
  beings.
• 12:04
  We'll
• 12:04
  talk
• 12:04
  about
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  Valar.
• 12:05
  And
• 12:05
  the
• 12:06
  Valar
• 12:07
  are
• 12:08
  basically
• 12:08
  the
• 12:08
  lower
• 12:08
  G
• 12:09
  gods
• 12:09
  of
• 12:09
  Middle
• 12:09
  Earth.
• 12:10
  And
• 12:10
  they
• 12:11
  work
• 12:11
  with
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  monotheistic
• 12:12
  God
• 12:13
  to
• 12:14
  construct
• 12:14
  the
• 12:15
  universe
• 12:15
  and
• 12:16
  specifically
• 12:17
  construct
• 12:18
  Arda,
• 12:18
  which
• 12:18
  is
• 12:19
  the
• 12:19
  Earth.
• 12:19
  And
• 12:20
  they
• 12:20
  make
• 12:20
  a
• 12:20
  blessed
• 12:21
  realm
• 12:21
  called
• 12:22
  Valinor.
• 12:24
  And
• 12:24
  there
• 12:24
  are
• 12:26
  eight
• 12:27
  primary
• 12:29
  Valar
• 12:29
  in
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  pantheon,
• 12:30
  if
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  will.
• 12:31
  There's
• 12:31
  more
• 12:31
  Valar
• 12:32
  than
• 12:32
  eight,
• 12:32
  but
• 12:32
  there's
• 12:33
  like
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  main
• 12:33
  ones,
• 12:33
  they're
• 12:34
  like
• 12:34
  the.
• 12:34
  The
• 12:35
  Big
• 12:35
  12,
• 12:35
  you
• 12:36
  know,
• 12:36
  in
• 12:36
  Greek
• 12:36
  mythology,
• 12:37
  if
• 12:37
  you're
• 12:37
  familiar
• 12:37
  with
• 12:38
  them.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:38
  the
• 12:39
  eight,
• 12:40
  which
• 12:40
  I
• 12:41
  don't
• 12:41
  know
• 12:41
  if
• 12:41
  I'm
• 12:41
  gonna.
• 12:41
  If
• 12:42
  I'm
• 12:42
  gonna
• 12:42
  be
• 12:42
  able
• 12:42
  to.
• 12:43
  To
• 12:43
  recite
• 12:43
  them
• 12:44
  all.
• 12:44
  But
• 12:44
  the.
• 12:44
  The
• 12:44
  big
• 12:45
  ones
• 12:45
  that
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  should
• 12:46
  know
• 12:46
  are
• 12:47
  Manwe,
• 12:48
  who
• 12:48
  is
• 12:48
  kind
• 12:49
  of
• 12:49
  the.
• 12:49
  The
• 12:49
  mouthpiece
• 12:50
  for
• 12:51
  God,
• 12:51
  or
• 12:52
  ERU
• 12:52
  Iluvatar,
• 12:53
  Aule,
• 12:54
  the
• 12:54
  God
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  fire
• 12:55
  and.
• 12:55
  Or
• 12:55
  smithing
• 12:56
  or
• 12:57
  work
• 12:57
  or.
• 12:58
  Yeah,
• 12:58
  yeah,
• 12:59
  Smith
• 12:59
  work.
• 12:59
  Kind
• 13:00
  of
• 13:00
  like
• 13:00
  a
• 13:00
  Hephaestus
• 13:01
  type
• 13:01
  of
• 13:01
  guy.
• 13:02
  You've
• 13:02
  got
• 13:02
  Ulmo,
• 13:03
  who
• 13:03
  is
• 13:03
  the
• 13:04
  Vala
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  the
• 13:05
  waters,
• 13:06
  and
• 13:06
  you've
• 13:06
  got
• 13:06
  Yavanna,
• 13:07
  who
• 13:08
  is
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  Vala
• 13:09
  of
• 13:09
  Nature,
• 13:10
  who
• 13:10
  we'll
• 13:10
  be
• 13:10
  talking
• 13:11
  about.
• 13:11
  And
• 13:11
  then
• 13:11
  there's
• 13:13
  Varda,
• 13:14
  who
• 13:14
  is
• 13:15
  the
• 13:15
  wife
• 13:15
  of
• 13:16
  Manwe
• 13:17
  and
• 13:17
  basically
• 13:18
  the
• 13:18
  Vala
• 13:18
  of
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  stars.
• 13:20
  Those
• 13:21
  are
• 13:21
  pretty
• 13:21
  much
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  main
• 13:21
  ones
• 13:22
  you
• 13:22
  hear
• 13:22
  about
• 13:22
  all
• 13:23
  the
• 13:23
  time.
• 13:23
  And
• 13:24
  Yavanna
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  actually
• 13:25
  married
• 13:25
  to
• 13:25
  Aule
• 13:26
  as
• 13:26
  well.
• 13:27
  Now,
• 13:29
  when
• 13:29
  the
• 13:29
  Earth
• 13:30
  is
• 13:30
  established,
• 13:31
  there
• 13:31
  is
• 13:32
  no
• 13:32
  sun
• 13:32
  or.
• 13:33
  Yeah,
• 13:33
  there
• 13:33
  is
• 13:33
  no
• 13:33
  sun,
• 13:34
  there
• 13:34
  is
• 13:35
  no
• 13:35
  moon,
• 13:35
  there
• 13:36
  is
• 13:36
  no
• 13:36
  light
• 13:37
  source.
• 13:38
  And
• 13:38
  what
• 13:39
  happens
• 13:39
  is
• 13:40
  that
• 13:40
  there
• 13:41
  are
• 13:41
  two
• 13:42
  lamps
• 13:42
  that
• 13:43
  are
• 13:43
  constructed
• 13:44
  on
• 13:44
  either
• 13:44
  side
• 13:45
  of
• 13:45
  Arda
• 13:46
  and
• 13:47
  so
• 13:47
  they
• 13:47
  wax
• 13:48
  and
• 13:48
  wane
• 13:48
  depending
• 13:49
  on
• 13:49
  what's
• 13:49
  night
• 13:50
  and
• 13:50
  what's
• 13:50
  day.
• 13:51
  And
• 13:52
  Melkor,
• 13:53
  who
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  one
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  big
• 13:54
  baddies
• 13:55
  or
• 13:55
  the
• 13:55
  big
• 13:55
  baddie,
• 13:56
  gets
• 13:57
  really
• 13:57
  pissed,
• 13:58
  destroys
• 13:58
  them.
• 13:59
  There's
• 14:00
  no
• 14:00
  more
• 14:00
  light.
• 14:01
  And
• 14:03
  things.
• 14:04
  The.
• 14:04
  The
• 14:04
  Valar
• 14:05
  try
• 14:05
  to
• 14:05
  rebuild.
• 14:05
  Okay,
• 14:06
  and
• 14:07
  there
• 14:07
  is
• 14:07
  one
• 14:08
  of
• 14:09
  the.
• 14:09
  I
• 14:10
  think
• 14:10
  she's
• 14:10
  in
• 14:10
  the
• 14:10
  big
• 14:10
  eight.
• 14:12
  Her
• 14:12
  name
• 14:12
  is
• 14:12
  a
• 14:13
  Vala
• 14:13
  named
• 14:13
  Nienna.
• 14:14
  And
• 14:15
  this
• 14:15
  is
• 14:15
  actually
• 14:16
  Gandalf's
• 14:17
  teacher,
• 14:18
  essentially.
• 14:19
  But
• 14:19
  Niana
• 14:20
  is
• 14:20
  like
• 14:21
  the
• 14:21
  Vala
• 14:22
  of
• 14:22
  pity
• 14:22
  and
• 14:23
  compassion.
• 14:24
  And
• 14:25
  she
• 14:25
  weeps
• 14:26
  because
• 14:27
  things
• 14:27
  suck
• 14:28
  now
• 14:29
  and
• 14:29
  then
• 14:29
  Yavanna
• 14:30
  starts
• 14:30
  singing
• 14:31
  a
• 14:31
  lament
• 14:32
  and
• 14:32
  a
• 14:33
  song
• 14:34
  and
• 14:35
  two
• 14:35
  trees
• 14:36
  start
• 14:37
  growing
• 14:37
  out
• 14:37
  of
• 14:38
  the
• 14:38
  ground.
• 14:38
  And
• 14:38
  because
• 14:39
  Nienna
• 14:40
  has
• 14:40
  powerful
• 14:40
  tears
• 14:41
  because
• 14:41
  she's
• 14:42
  the
• 14:42
  Vala
• 14:43
  of
• 14:43
  pity,
• 14:43
  all
• 14:44
  of
• 14:44
  a
• 14:44
  sudden,
• 14:45
  new
• 14:45
  light
• 14:45
  sources
• 14:46
  come
• 14:46
  up.
• 14:47
  There
• 14:47
  is
• 14:47
  the.
• 14:48
  The.
• 14:50
  The
• 14:50
  golden
• 14:50
  tree,
• 14:51
  if
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  will,
• 14:51
  named
• 14:52
  Laurelin
• 14:53
  for.
• 14:53
  For
• 14:53
  my
• 14:53
  nerds
• 14:54
  out
• 14:54
  there,
• 14:54
  which
• 14:55
  is
• 14:55
  our
• 14:55
  sun.
• 14:56
  She
• 14:56
  is
• 14:56
  the
• 14:57
  sun
• 14:57
  tree,
• 14:58
  essentially.
• 14:58
  And
• 14:59
  then
• 14:59
  there
• 14:59
  is
• 14:59
  Telperion,
• 15:00
  who
• 15:01
  is
• 15:01
  the
• 15:02
  white
• 15:02
  tree
• 15:03
  or
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  moon.
• 15:04
  Those.
• 15:05
  So
• 15:05
  those
• 15:05
  two
• 15:05
  trees
• 15:06
  come
• 15:06
  up,
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  they
• 15:07
  are
• 15:07
  the
• 15:08
  new
• 15:08
  light
• 15:09
  source
• 15:09
  for
• 15:10
  the
• 15:10
  world,
• 15:11
  and
• 15:11
  they
• 15:11
  are
• 15:11
  in
• 15:11
  the
• 15:12
  blessed
• 15:12
  Realm,
• 15:13
  Valinor.
• 15:14
  And
• 15:15
  fast
• 15:16
  forward
• 15:16
  a
• 15:16
  long
• 15:17
  time
• 15:17
  from
• 15:17
  now.
• 15:18
  Elves
• 15:19
  come
• 15:19
  to
• 15:21
  Valinor.
• 15:22
  Okay?
• 15:23
  Christmas
• 15:23
  elves.
• 15:24
  Christmas
• 15:25
  elves.
• 15:25
  Yeah.
• 15:25
  100
• 15:26
  short
• 15:26
  little
• 15:26
  guys.
• 15:27
  You
• 15:27
  know,
• 15:28
  not
• 15:28
  Christmas.
• 15:29
  I'm
• 15:29
  sorry,
• 15:30
  guys.
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  can't
• 15:31
  help
• 15:31
  it.
• 15:33
  So
• 15:33
  if,
• 15:33
  you
• 15:33
  know,
• 15:33
  if
• 15:33
  you're
• 15:34
  familiar
• 15:34
  with
• 15:34
  Tolkien's
• 15:35
  legendarium,
• 15:35
  you
• 15:36
  know,
• 15:36
  elves
• 15:36
  are
• 15:36
  epic.
• 15:37
  They
• 15:37
  are,
• 15:39
  like,
• 15:39
  7
• 15:40
  foot
• 15:40
  tall.
• 15:41
  They
• 15:41
  are
• 15:41
  the
• 15:42
  original
• 15:42
  craftsmen.
• 15:43
  Okay?
• 15:44
  And
• 15:44
  so
• 15:44
  if
• 15:44
  you're
• 15:44
  not
• 15:45
  familiar
• 15:45
  with
• 15:45
  that,
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  should.
• 15:46
  The
• 15:47
  Silmarillion
• 15:47
  is
• 15:48
  a
• 15:48
  great
• 15:48
  place
• 15:48
  to
• 15:48
  start
• 15:48
  to
• 15:49
  learn
• 15:49
  about
• 15:49
  how
• 15:49
  awesome
• 15:50
  the
• 15:50
  elves
• 15:50
  are.
• 15:51
  There
• 15:51
  is
• 15:52
  one
• 15:52
  elf
• 15:53
  in
• 15:53
  particular
• 15:54
  who's,
• 15:54
  like,
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  greatest,
• 15:56
  also
• 15:56
  the
• 15:57
  most
• 15:57
  complex
• 15:58
  and
• 15:59
  problematic.
• 16:00
  His
• 16:00
  name
• 16:00
  is
• 16:00
  Feanor.
• 16:01
  And
• 16:02
  he
• 16:02
  becomes
• 16:03
  this
• 16:03
  amazing
• 16:04
  craftsperson,
• 16:06
  and
• 16:06
  he
• 16:06
  actually
• 16:06
  studies
• 16:07
  under
• 16:07
  Yavanna's
• 16:08
  husband,
• 16:08
  Aule.
• 16:09
  And
• 16:10
  that's
• 16:10
  how
• 16:10
  he
• 16:10
  becomes
• 16:11
  so
• 16:11
  good
• 16:12
  at
• 16:12
  crafting
• 16:13
  jewels
• 16:13
  and
• 16:13
  other
• 16:14
  things
• 16:14
  like
• 16:14
  that.
• 16:15
  So
• 16:16
  Melkor
• 16:16
  is
• 16:17
  mad
• 16:17
  that
• 16:17
  there
• 16:18
  is
• 16:19
  new
• 16:19
  good
• 16:20
  things
• 16:20
  in
• 16:21
  the
• 16:21
  world.
• 16:21
  And
• 16:22
  so
• 16:22
  Melkor
• 16:23
  and
• 16:23
  a
• 16:23
  giant
• 16:24
  spider
• 16:24
  named
• 16:25
  Ungoliant
• 16:26
  go
• 16:26
  and
• 16:26
  destroy
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  two
• 16:28
  trees.
• 16:29
  And
• 16:31
  before
• 16:31
  that,
• 16:32
  Feanor
• 16:33
  is
• 16:33
  such
• 16:33
  a
• 16:33
  great
• 16:34
  craftsman
• 16:34
  that
• 16:35
  he
• 16:35
  is
• 16:35
  able
• 16:35
  to
• 16:35
  take
• 16:36
  the
• 16:36
  light
• 16:37
  from
• 16:38
  Laurelin
• 16:38
  and
• 16:38
  Telperi
• 16:39
  on
• 16:39
  the
• 16:39
  two
• 16:39
  trees
• 16:40
  and
• 16:40
  puts
• 16:41
  them
• 16:41
  into
• 16:41
  three
• 16:42
  jewels
• 16:43
  called
• 16:43
  the
• 16:43
  silmarils.
• 16:44
  And
• 16:45
  this
• 16:45
  is
• 16:45
  where
• 16:45
  the
• 16:45
  Silmarillion
• 16:46
  gets
• 16:46
  its
• 16:46
  namesake,
• 16:47
  because
• 16:47
  all
• 16:48
  the
• 16:48
  things
• 16:48
  that
• 16:48
  happen
• 16:49
  from
• 16:49
  this
• 16:49
  point
• 16:49
  on
• 16:50
  are
• 16:50
  because
• 16:50
  of
• 16:50
  the
• 16:50
  silmarils.
• 16:52
  And
• 16:52
  so
• 16:53
  Feanor
• 16:54
  does
• 16:54
  this.
• 16:54
  The
• 16:54
  trees
• 16:55
  die.
• 16:56
  And
• 16:57
  Feanor
• 16:58
  had
• 16:58
  the
• 16:58
  opportunity
• 16:59
  to
• 17:00
  restore
• 17:01
  the
• 17:01
  trees
• 17:01
  because
• 17:02
  he
• 17:02
  had
• 17:02
  the
• 17:02
  light.
• 17:03
  Yavanna
• 17:04
  asks
• 17:04
  him
• 17:04
  for
• 17:04
  it
• 17:05
  specifically,
• 17:05
  and
• 17:06
  Feanor
• 17:06
  says,
• 17:06
  no,
• 17:06
  they're
• 17:07
  mine.
• 17:07
  Get
• 17:07
  out
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  my
• 17:08
  way.
• 17:08
  And
• 17:10
  leaves
• 17:10
  Middle
• 17:10
  Earth.
• 17:11
  And
• 17:11
  then
• 17:11
  all
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  problems
• 17:12
  start
• 17:12
  really
• 17:13
  happening.
• 17:14
  Yeah.
• 17:15
  Yeah.
• 17:15
  And
• 17:15
  if
• 17:16
  I'm
• 17:16
  remembering
• 17:16
  right,
• 17:17
  one
• 17:17
  of
• 17:17
  the
• 17:17
  Silmarils,
• 17:18
  because
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  Amor,
• 17:19
  end
• 17:19
  up
• 17:19
  in,
• 17:19
  like,
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  bottom
• 17:20
  of
• 17:20
  the
• 17:20
  sea.
• 17:21
  I
• 17:22
  don't
• 17:22
  remember
• 17:22
  how
• 17:23
  the
• 17:23
  other
• 17:23
  two
• 17:23
  get
• 17:23
  what
• 17:23
  they
• 17:23
  get,
• 17:24
  but,
• 17:24
  like,
• 17:24
  one
• 17:24
  in,
• 17:24
  like,
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  fire
• 17:25
  on
• 17:25
  the
• 17:25
  Earth,
• 17:26
  and
• 17:26
  then
• 17:26
  one's
• 17:26
  up
• 17:26
  in,
• 17:26
  like,
• 17:26
  the
• 17:26
  cosmos,
• 17:27
  right?
• 17:28
  Correct.
• 17:28
  Correct.
• 17:29
  Yeah.
• 17:29
  Okay.
• 17:30
  Yeah.
• 17:30
  But
• 17:31
  that's.
• 17:31
  You
• 17:31
  know,
• 17:31
  this
• 17:31
  isn't
• 17:32
  a
• 17:32
  Silmaril
• 17:32
  episode.
• 17:33
  This
• 17:33
  is
• 17:33
  just
• 17:33
  Josh
• 17:34
  asking
• 17:34
  Nick
• 17:35
  if
• 17:35
  he
• 17:35
  understood
• 17:36
  the
• 17:36
  book
• 17:36
  properly.
• 17:36
  Because
• 17:36
  I
• 17:36
  read
• 17:37
  it
• 17:37
  again
• 17:37
  this
• 17:38
  week.
• 17:38
  But,
• 17:38
  like,
• 17:39
  for
• 17:39
  me,
• 17:40
  as
• 17:40
  much
• 17:40
  as
• 17:40
  I
• 17:40
  love
• 17:41
  it,
• 17:41
  sometimes
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  way
• 17:42
  Tolkien
• 17:43
  talks,
• 17:43
  like,
• 17:43
  it
• 17:43
  just
• 17:43
  feels
• 17:44
  so
• 17:44
  incredible
• 17:44
  that
• 17:44
  even
• 17:45
  when
• 17:45
  I
• 17:45
  don't
• 17:45
  get
• 17:45
  it,
• 17:45
  I'm
• 17:45
  so
• 17:46
  inspired.
• 17:46
  And
• 17:46
  then
• 17:46
  later,
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  think
• 17:47
  about.
• 17:47
  I'm
• 17:47
  like,
• 17:47
  did
• 17:48
  I
• 17:48
  understand
• 17:48
  that?
• 17:49
  No.
• 17:49
  100%
• 17:50
  sure
• 17:50
  that
• 17:51
  I
• 17:51
  understood
• 17:51
  that.
• 17:51
  But
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  felt
• 17:52
  like
• 17:52
  I
• 17:52
  did,
• 17:53
  you
• 17:54
  know?
• 17:54
  And,
• 17:55
  like,
• 17:55
  it
• 17:55
  definitely
• 17:55
  made
• 17:55
  me
• 17:56
  feel
• 17:56
  something.
• 17:56
  But,
• 17:57
  like,
• 17:57
  did
• 17:57
  I
• 17:57
  get.
• 17:58
  And
• 17:59
  who.
• 17:59
  Who
• 17:59
  are
• 17:59
  the
• 17:59
  main
• 18:00
  characters?
• 18:01
  I
• 18:01
  don't
• 18:01
  know
• 18:01
  if
• 18:01
  there
• 18:02
  are
• 18:02
  any
• 18:02
  main
• 18:02
  characters.
• 18:03
  Yeah,
• 18:04
  maybe
• 18:05
  the
• 18:05
  one
• 18:06
  problematic
• 18:07
  Elf.
• 18:08
  Yeah.
• 18:08
  Maybe
• 18:08
  Feanor,
• 18:09
  you
• 18:09
  know,
• 18:09
  or
• 18:09
  the
• 18:09
  Silmar.
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  was
• 18:10
  thinking
• 18:10
  the
• 18:11
  dentist.
• 18:12
  I'm
• 18:12
  just
• 18:12
  a
• 18:12
  miss.
• 18:13
  Sorry,
• 18:15
  guys.
• 18:16
  Freaking
• 18:16
  hermy
• 18:17
  dude
• 18:17
  adhd.
• 18:19
  It's
• 18:19
  bad.
• 18:22
  Okay,
• 18:23
  so.
• 18:23
  No,
• 18:23
  I
• 18:23
  love
• 18:24
  it.
• 18:26
  Backtracking.
• 18:26
  I'm
• 18:27
  trying
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  think
• 18:27
  through
• 18:27
  everything
• 18:27
  you
• 18:28
  said
• 18:28
  to
• 18:29
  see,
• 18:29
  like,
• 18:29
  if
• 18:29
  there
• 18:29
  was
• 18:30
  anything
• 18:30
  that
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  wanted
• 18:30
  to
• 18:30
  add
• 18:31
  or
• 18:31
  was
• 18:31
  like,
• 18:32
  yeah,
• 18:32
  that
• 18:32
  was
• 18:32
  so
• 18:32
  freaking
• 18:33
  cool.
• 18:33
  Because
• 18:33
  I
• 18:34
  know,
• 18:34
  obviously,
• 18:35
  love
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  trees.
• 18:36
  We're
• 18:36
  gonna
• 18:36
  get
• 18:36
  into
• 18:37
  some
• 18:37
  of
• 18:39
  Aule
• 18:40
  and
• 18:41
  Yavana's
• 18:41
  relationship
• 18:42
  in
• 18:42
  the
• 18:42
  end
• 18:43
  because,
• 18:43
  like,
• 18:43
  it's
• 18:43
  Arbor
• 18:44
  Day.
• 18:44
  We
• 18:44
  gotta
• 18:44
  go
• 18:44
  there.
• 18:45
  But,
• 18:45
  like,
• 18:46
  I
• 18:46
  think
• 18:46
  the
• 18:46
  thing
• 18:46
  too,
• 18:47
  with
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  two
• 18:47
  trees,
• 18:47
  this
• 18:48
  is
• 18:48
  what
• 18:48
  was
• 18:48
  really
• 18:48
  cool
• 18:48
  to
• 18:48
  me,
• 18:49
  at
• 18:49
  least
• 18:50
  when
• 18:50
  I
• 18:50
  was
• 18:50
  listening
• 18:50
  this
• 18:50
  time.
• 18:50
  And
• 18:51
  it
• 18:51
  could.
• 18:51
  I
• 18:52
  think
• 18:52
  that
• 18:53
  I
• 18:53
  got
• 18:53
  this
• 18:53
  correct.
• 18:54
  If
• 18:54
  not,
• 18:56
  it's
• 18:56
  what
• 18:56
  I
• 18:57
  was
• 18:57
  made
• 18:57
  to
• 18:57
  feel.
• 18:57
  And
• 18:58
  I
• 18:58
  think
• 18:58
  it's
• 18:58
  a
• 18:58
  valid
• 18:58
  feeling.
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 19:00
  So
• 19:01
  listening
• 19:01
  through,
• 19:02
  because,
• 19:02
  like,
• 19:02
  also
• 19:03
  $2,
• 19:03
  you
• 19:04
  get
• 19:04
  the
• 19:04
  Silmarillion
• 19:05
  on
• 19:05
  Amazon
• 19:05
  and
• 19:06
  it's
• 19:06
  both
• 19:06
  Kindle
• 19:07
  and
• 19:07
  audiobook,
• 19:08
  so
• 19:08
  you
• 19:08
  can
• 19:08
  read
• 19:08
  it
• 19:09
  and
• 19:09
  then
• 19:09
  you're
• 19:09
  in
• 19:09
  the
• 19:09
  car
• 19:09
  and
• 19:10
  just
• 19:10
  switch
• 19:10
  to
• 19:10
  the
• 19:10
  audiobook
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  then
• 19:11
  you're
• 19:11
  out
• 19:11
  of
• 19:11
  the
• 19:11
  car
• 19:11
  and
• 19:11
  you
• 19:12
  switch
• 19:12
  back
• 19:12
  to
• 19:12
  reading
• 19:12
  it
• 19:12
  and
• 19:13
  it's
• 19:13
  awesome.
• 19:14
  Anyway,
• 19:15
  let's
• 19:16
  get
• 19:16
  into
• 19:16
  it,
• 19:16
  though.
• 19:16
  Yeah,
• 19:17
  it's
• 19:17
  so
• 19:17
  cool.
• 19:17
  But
• 19:17
  listening
• 19:18
  to
• 19:18
  this
• 19:18
  part,
• 19:19
  whenever
• 19:19
  the
• 19:20
  two
• 19:20
  trees
• 19:20
  were
• 19:20
  first
• 19:20
  being
• 19:21
  made
• 19:21
  after
• 19:21
  the
• 19:21
  lamps
• 19:22
  were
• 19:22
  destroyed,
• 19:22
  and
• 19:23
  it
• 19:23
  was
• 19:23
  like,
• 19:24
  I
• 19:24
  don't
• 19:24
  know,
• 19:24
  it
• 19:24
  felt
• 19:25
  like
• 19:25
  being
• 19:26
  at,
• 19:26
  like,
• 19:26
  this
• 19:26
  grand,
• 19:27
  beautiful
• 19:27
  funeral
• 19:28
  almost
• 19:29
  where
• 19:29
  they
• 19:30
  were
• 19:30
  mourning
• 19:30
  the
• 19:30
  loss
• 19:31
  of
• 19:31
  the
• 19:31
  light.
• 19:31
  And
• 19:32
  in
• 19:32
  that
• 19:32
  mourning,
• 19:34
  was
• 19:35
  it
• 19:35
  Yavanna
• 19:35
  who
• 19:35
  begins
• 19:36
  to
• 19:36
  sing?
• 19:37
  Yes.
• 19:38
  Yeah.
• 19:38
  Which
• 19:38
  is
• 19:38
  also
• 19:39
  super
• 19:39
  important.
• 19:40
  All
• 19:40
  of
• 19:40
  creation
• 19:41
  happens
• 19:41
  through
• 19:41
  song
• 19:42
  in
• 19:42
  art.
• 19:42
  Yes.
• 19:43
  Like,
• 19:43
  that's
• 19:43
  how
• 19:43
  ERU
• 19:44
  Iluvatar
• 19:44
  creates
• 19:45
  everything
• 19:45
  in
• 19:45
  Ainu
• 19:45
  and
• 19:45
  Lundelay.
• 19:46
  I'm
• 19:46
  sure.
• 19:47
  Which
• 19:47
  you
• 19:47
  guys
• 19:47
  spoke
• 19:48
  about
• 19:48
  recently.
• 19:48
  And
• 19:49
  I
• 19:49
  think
• 19:50
  we
• 19:50
  also
• 19:50
  did
• 19:50
  an
• 19:50
  episode
• 19:51
  back
• 19:51
  during
• 19:51
  our
• 19:52
  year
• 19:52
  of
• 19:52
  origins.
• 19:52
  We
• 19:53
  talked
• 19:53
  about
• 19:53
  the
• 19:53
  origins
• 19:53
  of
• 19:53
  Middle
• 19:54
  Earth.
• 19:54
  And
• 19:54
  we
• 19:54
  also
• 19:54
  talked
• 19:54
  about
• 19:54
  it.
• 19:54
  Oh,
• 19:55
  yeah.
• 19:55
  So
• 19:55
  I
• 19:55
  might
• 19:55
  link
• 19:55
  that
• 19:56
  below.
• 19:56
  Maybe
• 19:57
  we'll
• 19:57
  see
• 19:57
  how
• 19:57
  good
• 19:57
  I
• 19:57
  am
• 19:57
  at
• 19:58
  links.
• 20:00
  But
• 20:02
  yeah.
• 20:02
  So
• 20:02
  it's
• 20:03
  important
• 20:03
  that
• 20:03
  it
• 20:03
  was
• 20:03
  song
• 20:03
  because
• 20:04
  she's
• 20:05
  one
• 20:05
  of
• 20:05
  the
• 20:05
  valor
• 20:06
  that's
• 20:06
  creating
• 20:06
  with
• 20:06
  ERU
• 20:07
  Iluvadar
• 20:08
  not
• 20:08
  fighting
• 20:08
  against
• 20:08
  him.
• 20:09
  And
• 20:09
  she's
• 20:09
  doing
• 20:09
  that
• 20:09
  through
• 20:09
  song
• 20:10
  here.
• 20:10
  But
• 20:11
  it
• 20:11
  was
• 20:11
  like.
• 20:11
  I
• 20:11
  don't
• 20:11
  know,
• 20:12
  it
• 20:12
  was
• 20:12
  like
• 20:12
  a
• 20:12
  sad
• 20:12
  song
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  me
• 20:13
  is
• 20:13
  what
• 20:13
  it
• 20:13
  felt
• 20:13
  like.
• 20:14
  It's
• 20:14
  like
• 20:14
  we're
• 20:14
  mourning
• 20:15
  and
• 20:15
  then
• 20:15
  out
• 20:15
  of
• 20:16
  that,
• 20:16
  new
• 20:17
  life
• 20:17
  came
• 20:17
  up.
• 20:17
  And
• 20:18
  I'm
• 20:18
  like,
• 20:18
  wow,
• 20:18
  that
• 20:18
  feels
• 20:19
  so,
• 20:20
  like,
• 20:20
  fundamentally
• 20:21
  Christian,
• 20:22
  you
• 20:22
  know?
• 20:22
  Like,
• 20:23
  I
• 20:23
  try
• 20:23
  not
• 20:24
  to
• 20:24
  be
• 20:24
  that
• 20:24
  guy,
• 20:24
  but
• 20:24
  I'm
• 20:24
  like,
• 20:25
  no,
• 20:26
  that
• 20:26
  just
• 20:26
  felt
• 20:27
  deeply
• 20:27
  Christian.
• 20:28
  Like,
• 20:28
  that's
• 20:28
  just
• 20:29
  like,
• 20:29
  this
• 20:29
  is
• 20:29
  what
• 20:29
  Christianity
• 20:31
  is
• 20:31
  actually
• 20:32
  all
• 20:32
  about,
• 20:32
  you
• 20:32
  know?
• 20:33
  Yeah,
• 20:34
  well,
• 20:34
  and
• 20:34
  I
• 20:34
  think
• 20:34
  you're
• 20:35
  correct,
• 20:35
  especially
• 20:36
  that
• 20:36
  notion.
• 20:37
  Tolkien
• 20:38
  has
• 20:38
  a
• 20:38
  word
• 20:38
  for
• 20:38
  it.
• 20:38
  It's
• 20:39
  called
• 20:39
  eucatastrophe.
• 20:41
  Okay.
• 20:42
  And
• 20:42
  it's
• 20:42
  this
• 20:42
  idea
• 20:43
  that
• 20:43
  only.
• 20:44
  Sorry.
• 20:44
  The
• 20:45
  happy
• 20:45
  ending
• 20:46
  comes
• 20:47
  from
• 20:47
  the
• 20:48
  deliverance
• 20:48
  of
• 20:49
  something
• 20:49
  sorrowful.
• 20:50
  Okay.
• 20:51
  And
• 20:51
  so
• 20:51
  Tolkien
• 20:52
  talks
• 20:52
  about
• 20:53
  how
• 20:53
  sorrow
• 20:53
  and
• 20:54
  beauty
• 20:54
  are
• 20:55
  necessarily
• 20:56
  intertwined.
• 20:58
  And
• 20:58
  you'll
• 20:58
  see
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  in
• 20:59
  Tolkien,
• 21:00
  where
• 21:01
  almost
• 21:01
  every
• 21:01
  beautiful
• 21:02
  moment
• 21:02
  or
• 21:03
  triumphant
• 21:03
  moment
• 21:04
  comes
• 21:05
  with
• 21:05
  severe
• 21:06
  loss.
• 21:07
  Right.
• 21:08
  And
• 21:09
  Yavanna
• 21:10
  also,
• 21:10
  when
• 21:10
  they
• 21:10
  lose
• 21:11
  the
• 21:11
  trees,
• 21:12
  I
• 21:13
  think
• 21:13
  you
• 21:13
  talk
• 21:13
  about.
• 21:13
  She
• 21:14
  sings
• 21:14
  again.
• 21:14
  And
• 21:15
  then
• 21:15
  Telperion
• 21:16
  and
• 21:16
  Laurelin
• 21:18
  produce
• 21:18
  one
• 21:19
  more
• 21:19
  fruit
• 21:19
  each,
• 21:20
  and
• 21:21
  they
• 21:21
  become
• 21:22
  the
• 21:22
  seeds,
• 21:23
  the
• 21:23
  fruit
• 21:23
  or
• 21:24
  whatever.
• 21:24
  Produce,
• 21:25
  become
• 21:25
  the
• 21:25
  sun
• 21:26
  and
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  moon.
• 21:27
  Okay.
• 21:28
  And
• 21:28
  so
• 21:28
  there's
• 21:28
  also
• 21:29
  that
• 21:29
  not
• 21:30
  only
• 21:30
  do
• 21:30
  these
• 21:30
  trees
• 21:32
  contribute
• 21:33
  to
• 21:34
  the
• 21:34
  life
• 21:35
  force
• 21:35
  of
• 21:36
  Valinor
• 21:38
  and
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  guess,
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  rest
• 21:39
  of
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  world,
• 21:40
  but
• 21:41
  also
• 21:42
  after
• 21:42
  their
• 21:42
  death,
• 21:43
  they
• 21:43
  contribute
• 21:43
  to
• 21:44
  sustaining
• 21:45
  all
• 21:46
  life
• 21:46
  through
• 21:47
  their.
• 21:48
  Their
• 21:49
  light,
• 21:49
  through
• 21:49
  their.
• 21:51
  Through
• 21:51
  the
• 21:51
  fruit.
• 21:51
  And
• 21:52
  for
• 21:52
  Tolkien,
• 21:52
  trees
• 21:53
  are
• 21:53
  not
• 21:53
  just
• 21:54
  trees.
• 21:54
  Even
• 21:54
  these
• 21:55
  trees
• 21:55
  here,
• 21:56
  obviously
• 21:56
  the
• 21:56
  White
• 21:56
  Tree
• 21:57
  of
• 21:57
  Gondor
• 21:58
  trees
• 21:58
  are
• 22:00
  very
• 22:00
  much
• 22:00
  alive
• 22:01
  in
• 22:01
  the
• 22:02
  personal
• 22:03
  sense
• 22:03
  for
• 22:03
  Tolkien.
• 22:04
  Yeah,
• 22:06
  yeah.
• 22:06
  And
• 22:07
  again,
• 22:07
  him
• 22:07
  being
• 22:08
  Catholic,
• 22:08
  it's
• 22:09
  no
• 22:09
  coincident.
• 22:10
  Two
• 22:10
  trees.
• 22:10
  And
• 22:10
  you
• 22:11
  think
• 22:11
  about
• 22:11
  the
• 22:11
  two
• 22:11
  trees
• 22:11
  in
• 22:11
  the
• 22:12
  garden
• 22:12
  of
• 22:12
  the
• 22:12
  Garden
• 22:12
  of
• 22:12
  Eden
• 22:13
  Bible
• 22:13
  story.
• 22:14
  Like,
• 22:14
  I
• 22:14
  definitely
• 22:14
  think
• 22:15
  that
• 22:15
  it
• 22:15
  being
• 22:15
  part
• 22:15
  of
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  creation
• 22:16
  method,
• 22:16
  like
• 22:16
  that
• 22:17
  fits.
• 22:17
  It
• 22:17
  makes
• 22:17
  sense
• 22:18
  that
• 22:18
  that's
• 22:18
  probably
• 22:19
  a
• 22:19
  parallel.
• 22:20
  And
• 22:20
  then
• 22:21
  to
• 22:21
  me,
• 22:22
  and
• 22:22
  this
• 22:22
  is
• 22:22
  something
• 22:22
  we
• 22:22
  just
• 22:22
  thought
• 22:23
  about
• 22:23
  not
• 22:23
  long
• 22:23
  before
• 22:23
  we
• 22:24
  started
• 22:24
  recording
• 22:24
  actually,
• 22:26
  was
• 22:27
  the.
• 22:27
  I'm.
• 22:28
  See
• 22:28
  if
• 22:28
  I
• 22:28
  pronounce
• 22:28
  this
• 22:28
  right.
• 22:29
  The
• 22:29
  Dagor.
• 22:29
  Dagroth.
• 22:30
  Oh,
• 22:31
  yeah.
• 22:31
  Am
• 22:31
  I
• 22:31
  saying
• 22:31
  that
• 22:31
  right?
• 22:31
  Okay.
• 22:32
  Yeah.
• 22:32
  So
• 22:32
  it's
• 22:32
  like
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  last
• 22:33
  battle,
• 22:34
  which
• 22:34
  maybe
• 22:36
  canonicity
• 22:37
  is
• 22:37
  questionable.
• 22:38
  We'll
• 22:38
  say
• 22:38
  that.
• 22:39
  Yeah.
• 22:40
  But
• 22:40
  it's.
• 22:41
  Supposedly
• 22:41
  it's
• 22:42
  the
• 22:42
  prophecy
• 22:42
  of
• 22:42
  the
• 22:42
  end
• 22:43
  times.
• 22:43
  And
• 22:43
  it's
• 22:44
  like
• 22:44
  there's
• 22:44
  this
• 22:44
  final
• 22:45
  battle
• 22:45
  for,
• 22:45
  you
• 22:45
  know,
• 22:45
  good
• 22:46
  and
• 22:46
  evil
• 22:46
  kind
• 22:46
  of
• 22:46
  stuff.
• 22:47
  They
• 22:47
  regain
• 22:48
  the.
• 22:49
  From
• 22:49
  the
• 22:49
  Silmarils.
• 22:51
  Feanor.
• 22:51
  Is
• 22:51
  that
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  name
• 22:52
  of
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  elf?
• 22:53
  Feanor.
• 22:54
  Feanor.
• 22:54
  Feanor,
• 22:55
  yeah.
• 22:55
  So
• 22:55
  I
• 22:55
  was
• 22:56
  like,
• 22:56
  that
• 22:56
  doesn't
• 22:56
  sound
• 22:56
  right.
• 22:56
  Feanor.
• 22:57
  He's
• 22:58
  even
• 22:58
  brought
• 22:58
  back
• 22:59
  into
• 22:59
  this
• 22:59
  whole
• 22:59
  thing.
• 23:00
  They
• 23:00
  do
• 23:00
  return
• 23:01
  the
• 23:01
  lights
• 23:01
  to
• 23:01
  Yavanna
• 23:02
  and
• 23:02
  she
• 23:02
  recreates
• 23:03
  the
• 23:03
  trees,
• 23:03
  and
• 23:03
  I'm
• 23:03
  like,
• 23:04
  man.
• 23:05
  Then
• 23:05
  you
• 23:06
  couple
• 23:06
  that
• 23:06
  with,
• 23:06
  like,
• 23:06
  in
• 23:07
  the
• 23:07
  Silmarillion,
• 23:08
  which
• 23:08
  I
• 23:08
  think
• 23:08
  is
• 23:09
  more
• 23:09
  canon.
• 23:11
  There's
• 23:11
  levels
• 23:11
  of
• 23:11
  canon
• 23:14
  when
• 23:15
  they
• 23:15
  talk
• 23:15
  about
• 23:15
  the
• 23:16
  two
• 23:16
  trees.
• 23:16
  There's,
• 23:16
  like,
• 23:17
  this
• 23:17
  moment
• 23:17
  it's
• 23:17
  describing
• 23:18
  where
• 23:18
  it's
• 23:18
  like,
• 23:18
  kind
• 23:19
  of
• 23:19
  like,
• 23:19
  I
• 23:19
  guess,
• 23:19
  dust,
• 23:19
  because,
• 23:20
  you
• 23:20
  know,
• 23:20
  there's
• 23:20
  no
• 23:20
  sun,
• 23:21
  moon
• 23:21
  yet
• 23:21
  when,
• 23:22
  like,
• 23:22
  the
• 23:22
  two
• 23:23
  trees
• 23:24
  lights
• 23:24
  are
• 23:25
  almost
• 23:25
  at
• 23:25
  the
• 23:25
  same
• 23:25
  time
• 23:26
  when,
• 23:26
  like,
• 23:26
  one's
• 23:26
  going
• 23:27
  in
• 23:27
  and
• 23:27
  one's
• 23:27
  going
• 23:27
  out.
• 23:28
  And
• 23:28
  it
• 23:28
  talks
• 23:28
  about,
• 23:29
  like,
• 23:29
  the
• 23:29
  beauty
• 23:29
  that
• 23:29
  that
• 23:30
  creates
• 23:30
  in
• 23:30
  the
• 23:30
  land
• 23:31
  of
• 23:31
  Valinor.
• 23:31
  And
• 23:31
  I'm
• 23:32
  like,
• 23:32
  oh.
• 23:33
  Like,
• 23:33
  to
• 23:34
  me,
• 23:34
  like,
• 23:34
  that
• 23:34
  even
• 23:34
  brings
• 23:35
  meaning.
• 23:35
  Like,
• 23:35
  when
• 23:35
  you're
• 23:35
  watching
• 23:35
  Lord
• 23:36
  of
• 23:36
  the
• 23:36
  Rings
• 23:36
  and
• 23:36
  stuff,
• 23:36
  and
• 23:36
  they're
• 23:36
  like,
• 23:36
  oh,
• 23:37
  we're
• 23:37
  going
• 23:37
  to
• 23:37
  do
• 23:37
  the
• 23:38
  trip
• 23:38
  to
• 23:38
  Valinor,
• 23:38
  and
• 23:39
  it's
• 23:39
  like,
• 23:39
  heaven
• 23:39
  ish.
• 23:40
  And
• 23:40
  I'm
• 23:40
  like,
• 23:40
  oh,
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  get
• 23:41
  it
• 23:41
  now.
• 23:41
  Like,
• 23:41
  that
• 23:41
  actually
• 23:42
  does
• 23:42
  sound,
• 23:42
  like,
• 23:43
  majestic
• 23:43
  when
• 23:43
  you
• 23:44
  read
• 23:44
  it,
• 23:44
  you
• 23:44
  know?
• 23:45
  Yeah,
• 23:46
  yeah,
• 23:46
  it's.
• 23:47
  Some
• 23:47
  of
• 23:47
  the
• 23:47
  stuff
• 23:47
  gets
• 23:48
  lost
• 23:48
  when
• 23:48
  you,
• 23:49
  like,
• 23:49
  obviously
• 23:50
  the
• 23:50
  films
• 23:50
  are
• 23:51
  very
• 23:51
  visually
• 23:52
  beautiful.
• 23:52
  And,
• 23:52
  like,
• 23:53
  when
• 23:53
  Frodo
• 23:53
  leaves
• 23:54
  at
• 23:54
  the
• 23:55
  Gray
• 23:55
  Havens
• 23:55
  at
• 23:55
  the
• 23:56
  end
• 23:56
  of
• 23:56
  the
• 23:56
  Return
• 23:56
  of
• 23:56
  the
• 23:57
  King,
• 23:57
  I
• 23:57
  mean,
• 23:58
  just
• 23:58
  tears
• 23:58
  in
• 23:58
  the
• 23:59
  eyes,
• 23:59
  right?
• 24:00
  But
• 24:01
  once
• 24:01
  you
• 24:01
  actually
• 24:02
  get
• 24:02
  the
• 24:02
  background
• 24:03
  knowledge
• 24:03
  to,
• 24:03
  like,
• 24:04
  Valinor,
• 24:04
  and
• 24:05
  Valinor,
• 24:06
  where
• 24:06
  Frodo's
• 24:06
  going
• 24:07
  at
• 24:07
  this
• 24:07
  point
• 24:07
  isn't
• 24:08
  even
• 24:08
  in
• 24:08
  the
• 24:08
  height
• 24:08
  of
• 24:08
  its
• 24:09
  beauty.
• 24:09
  Right.
• 24:10
  When
• 24:10
  you
• 24:10
  read
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  Silmarillion,
• 24:12
  Tolkien's
• 24:12
  descriptions
• 24:13
  of
• 24:13
  Valinor
• 24:14
  with
• 24:14
  the
• 24:15
  two
• 24:15
  trees
• 24:15
  is
• 24:17
  just
• 24:17
  like
• 24:17
  you
• 24:18
  said.
• 24:18
  It
• 24:18
  feels
• 24:19
  like
• 24:19
  if
• 24:19
  you
• 24:19
  look
• 24:19
  at
• 24:20
  stuff
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  you
• 24:20
  talk
• 24:20
  about
• 24:20
  two
• 24:21
  trees
• 24:21
  in
• 24:21
  a
• 24:21
  magical
• 24:22
  realm,
• 24:22
  you're
• 24:22
  like,
• 24:22
  that's
• 24:22
  pretty
• 24:23
  mundane.
• 24:23
  But
• 24:24
  then
• 24:24
  when
• 24:24
  you
• 24:24
  read
• 24:24
  it,
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  get
• 24:25
  the
• 24:26
  feels.
• 24:26
  As
• 24:26
  you
• 24:27
  were
• 24:27
  saying,
• 24:28
  I
• 24:28
  do
• 24:28
  want.
• 24:28
  To
• 24:28
  get
• 24:28
  to
• 24:28
  the
• 24:28
  Ents.
• 24:29
  So
• 24:30
  Yavanna
• 24:30
  is
• 24:31
  like.
• 24:31
  She's
• 24:32
  like,
• 24:32
  the
• 24:32
  valor
• 24:32
  of
• 24:33
  fruit,
• 24:34
  plants,
• 24:35
  life,
• 24:35
  whatever.
• 24:37
  Early
• 24:37
  on,
• 24:37
  it
• 24:38
  talks
• 24:38
  about
• 24:38
  the
• 24:38
  creation
• 24:38
  of
• 24:38
  the
• 24:39
  trees,
• 24:39
  then
• 24:39
  very
• 24:40
  shortly
• 24:40
  after
• 24:40
  talks
• 24:41
  about
• 24:41
  her
• 24:41
  relationship
• 24:41
  with,
• 24:42
  I
• 24:42
  guess
• 24:42
  you
• 24:42
  would
• 24:42
  say,
• 24:42
  her
• 24:43
  husband.
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  don't
• 24:43
  know
• 24:43
  if
• 24:43
  it
• 24:44
  uses
• 24:44
  husband
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  wife
• 24:44
  language,
• 24:45
  but,
• 24:46
  like,
• 24:46
  yeah,
• 24:46
  that's
• 24:46
  what
• 24:46
  it
• 24:46
  is.
• 24:47
  Yeah.
• 24:48
  I
• 24:48
  think,
• 24:48
  like
• 24:48
  you
• 24:48
  said,
• 24:49
  they
• 24:49
  don't
• 24:49
  use
• 24:49
  the
• 24:49
  language,
• 24:50
  but
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  think
• 24:50
  they
• 24:50
  are.
• 24:52
  Yeah,
• 24:52
  it's
• 24:53
  interesting.
• 24:53
  Sorry,
• 24:53
  this
• 24:54
  is
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  little
• 24:54
  bit
• 24:54
  of
• 24:54
  a
• 24:54
  sidebar,
• 24:54
  but
• 24:55
  it
• 24:55
  is
• 24:55
  interesting
• 24:55
  because,
• 24:55
  like,
• 24:56
  Tolkien
• 24:56
  criticized
• 24:57
  Lewis
• 24:57
  for,
• 24:57
  like,
• 24:58
  combining
• 24:58
  mythologies,
• 24:59
  but
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  lot
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  this
• 24:59
  feels
• 25:00
  like
• 25:00
  he
• 25:00
  took
• 25:00
  Greek
• 25:00
  mythology
• 25:01
  and
• 25:01
  combined
• 25:02
  it
• 25:02
  with
• 25:02
  Catholicism.
• 25:03
  Oh,
• 25:03
  yeah.
• 25:03
  Because,
• 25:04
  like,
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  Valor
• 25:04
  very
• 25:04
  much
• 25:05
  get
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  feel
• 25:05
  of,
• 25:05
  like,
• 25:05
  the
• 25:05
  Greek
• 25:06
  God.
• 25:06
  So
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  have
• 25:06
  Aru
• 25:06
  Iluvatar,
• 25:07
  who
• 25:07
  very
• 25:07
  much
• 25:07
  feels
• 25:08
  like
• 25:08
  the
• 25:08
  God
• 25:08
  of
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  Bible.
• 25:09
  And
• 25:09
  then
• 25:09
  you
• 25:09
  have
• 25:09
  the
• 25:10
  valor.
• 25:10
  That's
• 25:10
  like,
• 25:10
  okay,
• 25:10
  now
• 25:11
  we
• 25:11
  have
• 25:11
  Greek
• 25:11
  gods.
• 25:11
  Then
• 25:11
  under
• 25:12
  them
• 25:12
  you
• 25:12
  have
• 25:12
  like
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  Menar.
• 25:13
  And
• 25:13
  that's
• 25:14
  like
• 25:14
  saints
• 25:15
  is
• 25:15
  what
• 25:15
  it
• 25:15
  feels
• 25:15
  like.
• 25:15
  Like
• 25:16
  Gandor
• 25:16
  is
• 25:16
  the
• 25:16
  saint
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  something.
• 25:17
  And
• 25:17
  this
• 25:17
  is
• 25:17
  like
• 25:18
  the
• 25:18
  saint
• 25:18
  of
• 25:18
  something.
• 25:18
  I'm
• 25:18
  like,
• 25:18
  wait,
• 25:19
  so
• 25:19
  we're
• 25:19
  going
• 25:19
  back
• 25:19
  to
• 25:19
  Catholic?
• 25:20
  So
• 25:21
  you
• 25:21
  get
• 25:21
  like
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  weird
• 25:22
  mix.
• 25:23
  But,
• 25:23
  you
• 25:23
  know,
• 25:23
  he
• 25:24
  wasn't
• 25:24
  doing
• 25:24
  metaphor
• 25:24
  because
• 25:25
  how
• 25:25
  dare
• 25:25
  you
• 25:25
  think
• 25:26
  he
• 25:26
  did
• 25:26
  metaphor.
• 25:27
  Right?
• 25:27
  How
• 25:27
  dare
• 25:28
  you?
• 25:29
  Anyway,
• 25:30
  yeah.
• 25:30
  So
• 25:31
  let's
• 25:31
  talk
• 25:31
  about
• 25:31
  Aule
• 25:32
  and
• 25:33
  Yavanna's
• 25:33
  relationship.
• 25:34
  I
• 25:34
  think
• 25:34
  that's
• 25:34
  a
• 25:35
  good
• 25:35
  place
• 25:35
  to
• 25:35
  go.
• 25:36
  And
• 25:36
  that'll
• 25:36
  get
• 25:37
  us
• 25:37
  to
• 25:37
  the
• 25:37
  Ents.
• 25:37
  Yeah,
• 25:38
  yeah.
• 25:38
  I
• 25:39
  love
• 25:39
  that,
• 25:39
  you
• 25:39
  know,
• 25:39
  and
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  think
• 25:40
  you're
• 25:40
  right.
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  think
• 25:41
  there's
• 25:42
  less
• 25:42
  scholarship
• 25:43
  on
• 25:43
  people
• 25:45
  doing
• 25:45
  work
• 25:46
  on
• 25:46
  seeing
• 25:47
  the
• 25:47
  Greek
• 25:48
  elements
• 25:49
  in
• 25:49
  Tolkien's
• 25:50
  legendarium.
• 25:51
  But
• 25:51
  I
• 25:51
  really
• 25:52
  do
• 25:52
  think
• 25:53
  I
• 25:53
  compared
• 25:54
  Aule
• 25:54
  to
• 25:55
  Hephaestus
• 25:56
  in
• 25:56
  Greek
• 25:56
  mythology,
• 25:57
  if
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  are
• 25:57
  familiar,
• 25:58
  if
• 25:58
  listeners
• 25:58
  are
• 25:59
  familiar.
• 26:00
  And
• 26:00
  Yavanna
• 26:01
  is
• 26:01
  very
• 26:01
  much
• 26:01
  like
• 26:02
  Demeter
• 26:05
  and
• 26:05
  not
• 26:05
  like
• 26:06
  her
• 26:06
  daughter
• 26:06
  Persephone,
• 26:07
  because
• 26:07
  she
• 26:08
  doesn't
• 26:08
  go
• 26:08
  to
• 26:08
  an
• 26:08
  underworld
• 26:09
  or
• 26:09
  whatever
• 26:10
  and
• 26:11
  marry
• 26:12
  a
• 26:12
  Hades
• 26:13
  like
• 26:13
  character.
• 26:13
  But
• 26:15
  Yavana
• 26:15
  basically
• 26:16
  is
• 26:16
  just
• 26:16
  in
• 26:16
  charge
• 26:17
  of
• 26:17
  everything
• 26:17
  that
• 26:18
  is
• 26:18
  growing
• 26:19
  and
• 26:19
  green
• 26:21
  is
• 26:21
  Yavana.
• 26:22
  It's
• 26:22
  all
• 26:22
  her.
• 26:23
  And
• 26:23
  even
• 26:24
  possibly
• 26:25
  some
• 26:25
  of
• 26:25
  the
• 26:25
  animals
• 26:26
  also
• 26:26
  might
• 26:27
  be
• 26:27
  her
• 26:27
  doing.
• 26:28
  She's
• 26:28
  at
• 26:28
  least
• 26:28
  like
• 26:29
  a
• 26:29
  shepherd,
• 26:29
  like
• 26:31
  Vala,
• 26:31
  who
• 26:32
  takes
• 26:32
  care
• 26:32
  of
• 26:32
  things.
• 26:33
  And,
• 26:33
  you
• 26:34
  know,
• 26:34
  people
• 26:34
  always
• 26:35
  joke
• 26:35
  about
• 26:35
  opposites
• 26:36
  attracting.
• 26:36
  Aule
• 26:37
  loves
• 26:37
  stone,
• 26:38
  he
• 26:38
  loves
• 26:38
  ore,
• 26:39
  he
• 26:39
  loves
• 26:40
  fire.
• 26:41
  And
• 26:41
  you've
• 26:42
  got
• 26:42
  this
• 26:42
  sort
• 26:42
  of
• 26:42
  opposites
• 26:43
  attract
• 26:43
  sort
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  thing.
• 26:45
  And
• 26:46
  part
• 26:46
  of
• 26:47
  the
• 26:47
  music
• 26:48
  of
• 26:49
  Iluvatar,
• 26:50
  actually.
• 26:51
  So
• 26:52
  Iluvatar
• 26:52
  has
• 26:52
  like
• 26:52
  this
• 26:53
  whole
• 26:53
  plan
• 26:54
  in
• 26:54
  place
• 26:54
  for
• 26:55
  the
• 26:56
  whole
• 26:56
  of
• 26:56
  creation.
• 26:57
  And
• 26:58
  the
• 26:58
  Valar
• 26:59
  all
• 26:59
  have
• 27:00
  kind
• 27:00
  of
• 27:00
  bits
• 27:00
  and
• 27:00
  pieces
• 27:01
  of
• 27:01
  what
• 27:01
  that's
• 27:02
  going
• 27:02
  to
• 27:02
  look
• 27:02
  like.
• 27:03
  And
• 27:03
  the
• 27:03
  Ents
• 27:04
  are
• 27:05
  part
• 27:05
  of
• 27:05
  the
• 27:05
  vision.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:07
  so
• 27:08
  Yavanna
• 27:09
  helps
• 27:09
  in
• 27:10
  bringing
• 27:10
  about
• 27:10
  the
• 27:10
  Ents.
• 27:11
  And
• 27:11
  of
• 27:11
  course
• 27:11
  she's
• 27:12
  just
• 27:12
  super
• 27:12
  stoked
• 27:13
  because
• 27:14
  where
• 27:15
  else
• 27:15
  has
• 27:15
  anyone
• 27:15
  talked
• 27:16
  about
• 27:16
  Ents?
• 27:16
  Ants
• 27:17
  are
• 27:17
  the
• 27:17
  coolest.
• 27:17
  They're
• 27:17
  like,
• 27:18
  so
• 27:18
  unique
• 27:18
  to
• 27:18
  Middle
• 27:19
  Earth.
• 27:20
  And
• 27:20
  then
• 27:20
  Aule
• 27:21
  goes
• 27:21
  and
• 27:22
  creates
• 27:22
  the
• 27:22
  Dwarves.
• 27:23
  And
• 27:23
  this
• 27:24
  was
• 27:24
  not
• 27:24
  in
• 27:24
  Iluvatar's
• 27:25
  plan,
• 27:25
  but
• 27:26
  Iluvatar
• 27:27
  actually
• 27:27
  adopts
• 27:28
  the
• 27:28
  Dwarves
• 27:28
  and
• 27:28
  then
• 27:29
  incorporates
• 27:29
  them
• 27:29
  into
• 27:30
  the
• 27:30
  music.
• 27:31
  And,
• 27:32
  you
• 27:32
  know,
• 27:32
  the
• 27:33
  Dwarves
• 27:33
  are
• 27:33
  notorious
• 27:34
  for
• 27:35
  having
• 27:35
  axes
• 27:35
  and
• 27:36
  cutting
• 27:36
  stuff
• 27:36
  and,
• 27:37
  you
• 27:37
  know,
• 27:37
  using
• 27:38
  wood.
• 27:38
  And,
• 27:39
  you
• 27:39
  know,
• 27:39
  Yvonne
• 27:40
  is
• 27:40
  like,
• 27:41
  listen,
• 27:42
  hubby,
• 27:43
  keep
• 27:43
  your
• 27:44
  Dwarves
• 27:44
  axes
• 27:45
  away
• 27:45
  from
• 27:45
  my
• 27:45
  freaking
• 27:46
  ants,
• 27:46
  dude.
• 27:47
  And
• 27:47
  he's
• 27:47
  like,
• 27:47
  why
• 27:48
  are
• 27:48
  you
• 27:48
  coming
• 27:48
  after
• 27:48
  me?
• 27:49
  He's
• 27:49
  like,
• 27:49
  the
• 27:49
  elves
• 27:50
  and
• 27:50
  the
• 27:51
  in
• 27:51
  the
• 27:51
  men
• 27:51
  who
• 27:52
  are
• 27:52
  the
• 27:52
  children
• 27:52
  of
• 27:52
  Louisvatar
• 27:53
  are
• 27:53
  going
• 27:53
  to
• 27:54
  have
• 27:54
  to
• 27:54
  cut
• 27:54
  down
• 27:54
  the
• 27:54
  trees
• 27:54
  and
• 27:55
  burn
• 27:55
  their
• 27:55
  wood
• 27:55
  anyway.
• 27:56
  So
• 27:57
  Yavana
• 27:57
  gets
• 27:58
  real
• 27:58
  mad.
• 27:58
  She
• 27:59
  goes
• 27:59
  to
• 27:59
  Manway
• 28:00
  and
• 28:00
  she's
• 28:00
  like,
• 28:01
  listen
• 28:01
  here
• 28:01
  buddy.
• 28:02
  She's
• 28:02
  like,
• 28:02
  these,
• 28:03
  these
• 28:03
  dwarves
• 28:03
  and
• 28:04
  elves
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  men
• 28:04
  are
• 28:04
  going
• 28:04
  to
• 28:04
  be
• 28:04
  cutting
• 28:05
  down
• 28:05
  my
• 28:05
  children.
• 28:05
  I
• 28:06
  don't
• 28:06
  think
• 28:06
  so.
• 28:07
  And
• 28:07
  man
• 28:07
  was
• 28:08
  like,
• 28:08
  all
• 28:08
  right,
• 28:08
  hold
• 28:08
  on.
• 28:08
  Real
• 28:09
  sick.
• 28:09
  And
• 28:09
  he's
• 28:09
  like,
• 28:09
  let
• 28:10
  me
• 28:10
  just
• 28:10
  talk
• 28:10
  to
• 28:10
  big
• 28:10
  daddy
• 28:11
  in
• 28:11
  the
• 28:11
  sky
• 28:11
  real
• 28:11
  quick.
• 28:12
  And
• 28:13
  man
• 28:13
  way
• 28:14
  channels
• 28:14
  his
• 28:14
  energy
• 28:15
  because
• 28:15
  Manway
• 28:15
  is
• 28:15
  like
• 28:16
  the
• 28:16
  direct
• 28:16
  mouthpiece
• 28:17
  of
• 28:17
  Illuvatar.
• 28:18
  And
• 28:18
  he's
• 28:19
  like,
• 28:19
  oh,
• 28:19
  hey,
• 28:19
  by
• 28:20
  the
• 28:20
  way,
• 28:20
  your
• 28:20
  ants
• 28:21
  are
• 28:21
  not
• 28:21
  just
• 28:22
  going
• 28:22
  to
• 28:22
  be
• 28:22
  walking
• 28:22
  and
• 28:23
  talking.
• 28:23
  They're
• 28:23
  going
• 28:23
  to
• 28:23
  be
• 28:23
  pretty
• 28:24
  freaking
• 28:24
  powerful
• 28:25
  and
• 28:25
  are
• 28:25
  going
• 28:25
  to
• 28:25
  be
• 28:26
  able
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  defend
• 28:26
  themselves.
• 28:27
  So
• 28:28
  yeah,
• 28:29
  yeah,
• 28:30
  yeah.
• 28:30
  The
• 28:30
  timeline
• 28:30
  feels
• 28:31
  a
• 28:31
  little
• 28:31
  weird.
• 28:31
  And
• 28:31
  this
• 28:31
  is
• 28:31
  how.
• 28:32
  This
• 28:32
  is
• 28:32
  one
• 28:32
  of
• 28:32
  those
• 28:32
  things
• 28:32
  where
• 28:33
  like
• 28:33
  to
• 28:33
  me
• 28:33
  it
• 28:34
  kind
• 28:34
  of
• 28:34
  shows
• 28:34
  that
• 28:34
  Tolkien
• 28:35
  wasn't
• 28:35
  finished
• 28:36
  with
• 28:36
  this.
• 28:36
  Yeah,
• 28:37
  no
• 28:37
  doubt.
• 28:38
  Because
• 28:38
  like
• 28:39
  the
• 28:39
  timeline
• 28:39
  is
• 28:40
  a
• 28:40
  little
• 28:40
  weird
• 28:40
  because
• 28:40
  like
• 28:41
  she
• 28:41
  has
• 28:41
  thought
• 28:41
  of
• 28:41
  the
• 28:42
  ends.
• 28:42
  She's
• 28:42
  like
• 28:42
  beginning
• 28:43
  like
• 28:43
  oh,
• 28:43
  this
• 28:43
  is
• 28:43
  what
• 28:43
  they're
• 28:44
  going
• 28:44
  to
• 28:44
  be
• 28:44
  like,
• 28:44
  you
• 28:44
  know,
• 28:44
  whatever.
• 28:45
  And
• 28:45
  she's
• 28:45
  like,
• 28:45
  you
• 28:45
  know,
• 28:46
  just
• 28:46
  need
• 28:46
  approval
• 28:46
  from
• 28:46
  a
• 28:46
  rule
• 28:47
  of
• 28:47
  thar
• 28:47
  so
• 28:47
  we
• 28:47
  can
• 28:47
  get
• 28:48
  this,
• 28:48
  this
• 28:48
  job
• 28:48
  going.
• 28:49
  You
• 28:49
  know,
• 28:49
  he's
• 28:49
  the
• 28:49
  real
• 28:49
  creator.
• 28:50
  I'm
• 28:50
  just
• 28:50
  co
• 28:51
  creator
• 28:51
  kind
• 28:51
  of
• 28:51
  deal.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:52
  then
• 28:53
  ole
• 28:53
  bust
• 28:53
  up
• 28:53
  with
• 28:54
  a
• 28:55
  dwarfs,
• 28:56
  they're
• 28:56
  gonna
• 28:57
  chop
• 28:57
  stuff
• 28:57
  up,
• 28:57
  they're
• 28:58
  gonna
• 28:58
  build
• 28:58
  some
• 28:58
  stuff.
• 28:58
  It's
• 28:58
  gonna
• 28:59
  be
• 28:59
  freaking
• 28:59
  cool,
• 28:59
  man.
• 29:01
  Like
• 29:01
  you
• 29:01
  also
• 29:02
  have
• 29:02
  like
• 29:02
  an
• 29:02
  interesting
• 29:02
  contrast
• 29:03
  of
• 29:03
  like
• 29:04
  the
• 29:04
  innate
• 29:05
  desire
• 29:05
  to
• 29:05
  create
• 29:06
  looking
• 29:06
  a
• 29:06
  little
• 29:06
  bit
• 29:06
  different
• 29:06
  for
• 29:07
  Aule.
• 29:07
  And
• 29:07
  I
• 29:08
  think
• 29:08
  a
• 29:08
  lot
• 29:08
  of
• 29:08
  you
• 29:09
  know,
• 29:09
  more
• 29:09
  masculine
• 29:10
  types
• 29:10
  probably
• 29:11
  not
• 29:11
  me.
• 29:11
  Like
• 29:11
  there's
• 29:12
  like
• 29:12
  this
• 29:12
  form
• 29:12
  of
• 29:12
  creating
• 29:13
  that's
• 29:13
  like
• 29:13
  we're
• 29:13
  welding
• 29:14
  and
• 29:14
  we're,
• 29:15
  you
• 29:15
  know,
• 29:15
  working
• 29:16
  with
• 29:16
  wood.
• 29:16
  Like
• 29:16
  there's
• 29:17
  a
• 29:17
  craftsmanship
• 29:17
  and
• 29:17
  like
• 29:18
  I
• 29:18
  don't
• 29:18
  like.
• 29:18
  I
• 29:18
  think
• 29:19
  the
• 29:19
  desire
• 29:19
  was
• 29:19
  good
• 29:19
  and
• 29:19
  that's
• 29:20
  why
• 29:20
  Illuatar
• 29:21
  was
• 29:21
  like,
• 29:21
  no,
• 29:21
  okay,
• 29:21
  I'll
• 29:22
  let
• 29:22
  him
• 29:22
  be
• 29:23
  like
• 29:24
  what
• 29:24
  the
• 29:24
  heck?
• 29:24
  And
• 29:24
  Illuvitar's
• 29:25
  wait
• 29:25
  a
• 29:25
  minute.
• 29:25
  Your
• 29:25
  ants,
• 29:26
  we'll
• 29:26
  just
• 29:26
  make
• 29:26
  them
• 29:26
  the
• 29:27
  solution.
• 29:28
  And
• 29:28
  it's
• 29:28
  kind
• 29:29
  of
• 29:29
  like
• 29:29
  what
• 29:29
  came
• 29:30
  first?
• 29:30
  The
• 29:31
  dwarf.
• 29:31
  The
• 29:31
  int.
• 29:31
  The
• 29:32
  dwarf.
• 29:32
  The
• 29:32
  int.
• 29:34
  Chicken
• 29:34
  or
• 29:34
  egg
• 29:34
  situation.
• 29:35
  The
• 29:35
  dwarf.
• 29:36
  Ever
• 29:36
  decided,
• 29:37
  you
• 29:37
  know?
• 29:38
  Yeah.
• 29:39
  And
• 29:39
  it's
• 29:39
  interesting
• 29:40
  because
• 29:40
  a
• 29:40
  lot
• 29:40
  of
• 29:41
  it's
• 29:41
  so
• 29:41
  incomplete
• 29:42
  and
• 29:42
  Tolkien
• 29:43
  revised
• 29:44
  things
• 29:44
  so
• 29:44
  many
• 29:45
  times.
• 29:45
  But
• 29:46
  we
• 29:46
  do
• 29:46
  see
• 29:47
  at
• 29:47
  least
• 29:47
  with
• 29:48
  characters
• 29:48
  like
• 29:48
  Ivana
• 29:49
  and
• 29:49
  Owley,
• 29:50
  who
• 29:50
  they
• 29:51
  are
• 29:51
  is
• 29:51
  pretty
• 29:52
  intact
• 29:53
  from
• 29:54
  when
• 29:54
  Tolkien
• 29:54
  began
• 29:55
  writing
• 29:55
  early
• 29:56
  in,
• 29:56
  like,
• 29:56
  the
• 29:56
  nineteen
• 29:57
  teens
• 29:57
  or
• 29:58
  the
• 29:58
  twenties.
• 29:59
  They're
• 29:59
  at
• 29:59
  least
• 29:59
  they're,
• 30:00
  like
• 30:00
  you
• 30:00
  said,
• 30:00
  the
• 30:00
  timeline
• 30:01
  of,
• 30:01
  like,
• 30:01
  who
• 30:01
  they
• 30:02
  create
• 30:02
  and
• 30:02
  what
• 30:02
  transforms
• 30:03
  over
• 30:03
  time.
• 30:04
  But
• 30:04
  it's
• 30:04
  interesting
• 30:05
  that
• 30:05
  that
• 30:05
  is
• 30:05
  so
• 30:06
  incomplete
• 30:06
  and,
• 30:06
  like,
• 30:07
  can
• 30:09
  convoluted.
• 30:10
  But
• 30:11
  Yavana
• 30:11
  and
• 30:11
  Alice
• 30:12
  character
• 30:12
  are
• 30:13
  pretty
• 30:13
  much
• 30:13
  stay
• 30:15
  the
• 30:15
  same
• 30:15
  throughout
• 30:15
  Tolkien's
• 30:16
  writing,
• 30:16
  which
• 30:17
  is
• 30:17
  just
• 30:17
  really
• 30:17
  interesting
• 30:18
  to
• 30:18
  me.
• 30:18
  Yeah.
• 30:19
  Like,
• 30:20
  which,
• 30:20
  you
• 30:20
  know,
• 30:20
  I
• 30:20
  appreciate.
• 30:21
  I
• 30:21
  love
• 30:22
  character
• 30:22
  development,
• 30:22
  so
• 30:23
  I
• 30:23
  like
• 30:23
  that
• 30:23
  he
• 30:23
  spends
• 30:23
  so
• 30:23
  much
• 30:24
  time
• 30:24
  with
• 30:24
  the
• 30:24
  characters
• 30:24
  and
• 30:25
  then
• 30:25
  he's
• 30:25
  like,
• 30:25
  let
• 30:25
  me
• 30:25
  get
• 30:25
  the
• 30:25
  backstory.
• 30:26
  Then
• 30:26
  after
• 30:26
  we
• 30:26
  get
• 30:26
  the
• 30:27
  backstory,
• 30:27
  I
• 30:27
  might
• 30:27
  think
• 30:28
  about
• 30:28
  starting
• 30:28
  the
• 30:28
  story
• 30:28
  maybe.
• 30:29
  Right.
• 30:31
  Yeah.
• 30:32
  So
• 30:33
  we
• 30:33
  talked
• 30:33
  about
• 30:34
  a
• 30:34
  lot
• 30:34
  of
• 30:34
  stuff.
• 30:35
  It's
• 30:35
  called
• 30:35
  the
• 30:35
  Silmarillion
• 30:36
  because
• 30:36
  of
• 30:36
  the
• 30:36
  Silmarils.
• 30:37
  They
• 30:37
  get
• 30:37
  their
• 30:38
  light
• 30:38
  from
• 30:38
  the
• 30:38
  two
• 30:38
  trees
• 30:38
  after
• 30:39
  they
• 30:39
  were
• 30:39
  destroyed.
• 30:39
  Ish.
• 30:40
  Maybe
• 30:40
  during
• 30:40
  their
• 30:41
  destruction.
• 30:41
  Question
• 30:42
  mark.
• 30:42
  Timelines.
• 30:43
  Timelines
• 30:44
  are
• 30:44
  weird
• 30:44
  in
• 30:44
  the
• 30:44
  Silmarillion,
• 30:48
  but
• 30:48
  we
• 30:49
  kind
• 30:49
  of
• 30:49
  went
• 30:49
  over
• 30:49
  a
• 30:50
  lot
• 30:50
  of
• 30:50
  this.
• 30:50
  I
• 30:50
  want
• 30:51
  to
• 30:51
  ask
• 30:51
  you
• 30:51
  a
• 30:52
  really
• 30:52
  probably
• 30:53
  weird
• 30:53
  question
• 30:54
  here,
• 30:55
  and
• 30:55
  there's
• 30:56
  two
• 30:56
  different.
• 30:56
  Like,
• 30:56
  there's
• 30:56
  a
• 30:56
  few
• 30:56
  different
• 30:57
  routes
• 30:57
  that
• 30:57
  I
• 30:57
  want
• 30:57
  to
• 30:58
  go
• 30:58
  with
• 30:58
  the
• 30:58
  question,
• 30:58
  but
• 30:59
  I
• 30:59
  want
• 30:59
  to
• 30:59
  see
• 30:59
  what
• 30:59
  your
• 30:59
  thoughts
• 30:59
  are
• 31:00
  first.
• 31:01
  What
• 31:01
  would
• 31:01
  the
• 31:01
  stories
• 31:02
  of
• 31:02
  Arda,
• 31:03
  what
• 31:03
  would
• 31:03
  they
• 31:04
  be
• 31:04
  like
• 31:04
  if
• 31:05
  Yavanna
• 31:05
  was
• 31:06
  not
• 31:06
  a
• 31:06
  part
• 31:06
  of
• 31:06
  the
• 31:06
  story?
• 31:07
  What
• 31:08
  would
• 31:08
  be
• 31:08
  missing
• 31:09
  other
• 31:09
  than
• 31:09
  everything?
• 31:11
  Yeah.
• 31:11
  You
• 31:12
  literally
• 31:12
  would
• 31:12
  not
• 31:13
  have
• 31:14
  plants
• 31:15
  and
• 31:16
  possibly
• 31:16
  animals.
• 31:17
  You
• 31:17
  would
• 31:17
  not
• 31:18
  have
• 31:18
  the
• 31:19
  two
• 31:19
  trees.
• 31:20
  You
• 31:20
  would
• 31:20
  not
• 31:21
  have
• 31:21
  the
• 31:21
  Silmarils,
• 31:22
  you
• 31:22
  would
• 31:22
  not
• 31:22
  have
• 31:22
  the
• 31:23
  sun
• 31:23
  and
• 31:23
  moon,
• 31:24
  and,
• 31:25
  of
• 31:25
  course,
• 31:25
  you
• 31:25
  would
• 31:26
  not
• 31:26
  have
• 31:26
  the
• 31:26
  Ent
• 31:27
  and,
• 31:28
  you
• 31:28
  know,
• 31:29
  the
• 31:29
  ants.
• 31:30
  Well,
• 31:30
  everything
• 31:31
  here,
• 31:31
  Tolkien,
• 31:32
  has,
• 31:32
  like,
• 31:32
  a
• 31:32
  domino
• 31:33
  effect,
• 31:33
  storytelling.
• 31:34
  Without
• 31:34
  the
• 31:35
  ants,
• 31:35
  there's
• 31:35
  no
• 31:35
  defeat
• 31:36
  of
• 31:36
  Saruman.
• 31:36
  No
• 31:37
  defeat
• 31:37
  of
• 31:37
  Saruman,
• 31:38
  everyone's
• 31:38
  screwed.
• 31:40
  Saruman
• 31:41
  and.
• 31:41
  Or
• 31:41
  Sauron
• 31:42
  win.
• 31:43
  Without
• 31:43
  the
• 31:44
  Silmarils,
• 31:46
  you
• 31:46
  know,
• 31:46
  there's
• 31:46
  no
• 31:47
  epic
• 31:47
  legends,
• 31:48
  you
• 31:49
  know,
• 31:49
  and
• 31:49
  without
• 31:49
  the
• 31:49
  two
• 31:50
  trees,
• 31:51
  no.
• 31:52
  No
• 31:52
  light
• 31:52
  source,
• 31:53
  no
• 31:53
  white
• 31:53
  tree
• 31:53
  of
• 31:53
  Gondor,
• 31:54
  no
• 31:54
  symbols
• 31:55
  of
• 31:55
  hope
• 31:55
  and
• 31:55
  power
• 31:56
  and
• 31:56
  kings,
• 31:57
  you
• 31:57
  know,
• 31:58
  so,
• 31:58
  yeah,
• 31:59
  she's.
• 31:59
  She's
• 32:00
  pretty
• 32:00
  integral.
• 32:01
  Yeah.
• 32:02
  Yeah,
• 32:02
  that's
• 32:03
  where
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  was.
• 32:03
  Like,
• 32:03
  it's
• 32:03
  kind
• 32:04
  of
• 32:04
  a
• 32:04
  hard
• 32:04
  question.
• 32:05
  So
• 32:05
  we
• 32:05
  asked
• 32:05
  this
• 32:05
  question
• 32:06
  in
• 32:06
  all
• 32:06
  of
• 32:06
  the
• 32:06
  episodes
• 32:07
  of
• 32:07
  the
• 32:07
  Faces
• 32:07
  behind
• 32:07
  us.
• 32:08
  But
• 32:08
  I'm
• 32:08
  like,
• 32:08
  it's
• 32:09
  hard
• 32:09
  here
• 32:09
  because,
• 32:09
  like,
• 32:10
  without
• 32:10
  Ivana,
• 32:11
  she
• 32:11
  created
• 32:12
  trees.
• 32:12
  No
• 32:12
  trees,
• 32:13
  no
• 32:13
  oxygen.
• 32:13
  Everyone's
• 32:14
  dead.
• 32:15
  That's
• 32:15
  true.
• 33:00
  There's
• 33:01
  nothing
• 33:01
  but
• 33:02
  ignoring
• 33:03
  that,
• 33:03
  like,
• 33:03
  even,
• 33:04
  like,
• 33:04
  each
• 33:04
  individual
• 33:05
  part
• 33:05
  that
• 33:06
  she
• 33:06
  played,
• 33:06
  I'm
• 33:07
  like,
• 33:07
  okay,
• 33:07
  if
• 33:07
  she
• 33:07
  wasn't
• 33:07
  there
• 33:08
  to
• 33:08
  create
• 33:08
  the
• 33:08
  two
• 33:08
  trees,
• 33:09
  like,
• 33:09
  let's
• 33:09
  forget
• 33:09
  about
• 33:09
  Trees
• 33:10
  in
• 33:10
  general,
• 33:10
  you
• 33:11
  know,
• 33:11
  get
• 33:11
  the
• 33:11
  Silmarils,
• 33:12
  which
• 33:13
  kind
• 33:13
  of
• 33:13
  serve
• 33:14
  as
• 33:14
  this
• 33:14
  because,
• 33:14
  like,
• 33:14
  the
• 33:15
  elves
• 33:15
  capture
• 33:16
  the
• 33:16
  beauty
• 33:16
  of
• 33:16
  the
• 33:17
  trees
• 33:17
  and
• 33:17
  then
• 33:17
  they
• 33:17
  get
• 33:17
  envious
• 33:18
  with
• 33:18
  that
• 33:18
  power.
• 33:18
  And
• 33:19
  it
• 33:19
  kind
• 33:19
  of
• 33:19
  serves
• 33:19
  as
• 33:19
  the
• 33:19
  same
• 33:20
  thing
• 33:20
  as,
• 33:20
  like,
• 33:20
  you
• 33:20
  know,
• 33:21
  the
• 33:21
  fruit
• 33:21
  and
• 33:21
  the
• 33:21
  garden
• 33:22
  story
• 33:22
  of
• 33:22
  the
• 33:22
  Bible,
• 33:22
  where
• 33:22
  it's
• 33:23
  like,
• 33:23
  that
• 33:23
  was
• 33:23
  like
• 33:24
  that
• 33:24
  first
• 33:24
  sin
• 33:24
  that
• 33:25
  kind
• 33:25
  of
• 33:25
  caused
• 33:26
  everything
• 33:26
  else
• 33:26
  to
• 33:27
  start
• 33:27
  falling
• 33:27
  apart.
• 33:27
  So
• 33:27
  you
• 33:28
  don't
• 33:28
  get
• 33:28
  the
• 33:28
  Hobbit,
• 33:28
  you
• 33:28
  don't
• 33:28
  get
• 33:28
  the
• 33:29
  Lord
• 33:29
  of
• 33:29
  the
• 33:29
  rings,
• 33:29
  etc.
• 33:30
  Okay,
• 33:31
  let's
• 33:31
  say
• 33:31
  the
• 33:32
  two
• 33:32
  trees
• 33:32
  still
• 33:32
  somehow
• 33:33
  happen.
• 33:33
  She
• 33:33
  doesn't
• 33:34
  create
• 33:34
  the
• 33:34
  Ents
• 33:35
  while
• 33:35
  they
• 33:35
  lose
• 33:35
  at
• 33:35
  Isengard.
• 33:36
  Saruman's
• 33:37
  victorious.
• 33:38
  Then
• 33:38
  no
• 33:38
  one's
• 33:39
  there
• 33:39
  to
• 33:39
  distract
• 33:40
  the
• 33:40
  Eye
• 33:40
  of
• 33:41
  Sauron.
• 33:43
  Frodo
• 33:43
  and
• 33:43
  them
• 33:43
  can't
• 33:44
  destroy
• 33:44
  the
• 33:44
  Ring.
• 33:45
  Everybody
• 33:46
  loses.
• 33:46
  Morgoth
• 33:46
  comes
• 33:47
  back
• 33:47
  somehow.
• 33:48
  Mary
• 33:48
  and
• 33:48
  Pippin
• 33:49
  are
• 33:49
  dead,
• 33:49
  you
• 33:49
  know.
• 33:50
  Yeah.
• 33:50
  Like,
• 33:51
  every
• 33:51
  little
• 33:51
  individual
• 33:52
  thing
• 33:52
  she
• 33:52
  did,
• 33:52
  I'm
• 33:52
  like,
• 33:52
  if
• 33:53
  you
• 33:53
  take
• 33:53
  any
• 33:54
  one
• 33:54
  of
• 33:54
  those
• 33:54
  actions
• 33:55
  out,
• 33:56
  kind
• 33:56
  of
• 33:56
  everything
• 33:57
  falls
• 33:57
  apart.
• 33:58
  Yeah.
• 33:58
  Witch
• 33:59
  King
• 33:59
  stays
• 33:59
  alive.
• 34:00
  Yeah.
• 34:01
  All
• 34:01
  those
• 34:01
  things.
• 34:02
  Yeah.
• 34:02
  So
• 34:02
  I
• 34:03
  was
• 34:03
  like,
• 34:03
  it's
• 34:03
  a
• 34:03
  hard
• 34:03
  question
• 34:04
  because.
• 34:06
  And
• 34:07
  it's
• 34:07
  funny
• 34:07
  because
• 34:08
  I
• 34:08
  don't
• 34:08
  think
• 34:09
  now
• 34:09
  Iluvatar
• 34:10
  is
• 34:11
  mentioned
• 34:11
  in,
• 34:12
  like,
• 34:12
  the
• 34:13
  Rings
• 34:13
  of
• 34:13
  Power
• 34:13
  TV
• 34:14
  series.
• 34:16
  Morgoth
• 34:16
  is
• 34:17
  mentioned.
• 34:17
  I
• 34:17
  don't
• 34:17
  know
• 34:17
  if
• 34:17
  either
• 34:18
  of
• 34:18
  them
• 34:18
  are
• 34:18
  mentioned
• 34:18
  in
• 34:18
  Hobbit,
• 34:18
  Lord
• 34:19
  of
• 34:19
  the
• 34:19
  Rings.
• 34:19
  I
• 34:19
  think
• 34:19
  they
• 34:19
  are
• 34:19
  in
• 34:19
  the
• 34:20
  extended
• 34:20
  cut,
• 34:20
  but
• 34:20
  I
• 34:20
  don't
• 34:20
  know
• 34:21
  if
• 34:21
  they
• 34:21
  are
• 34:21
  in
• 34:21
  the
• 34:21
  regular.
• 34:22
  I'm
• 34:23
  unsure.
• 34:23
  That's
• 34:23
  a
• 34:23
  great
• 34:23
  question.
• 34:24
  I
• 34:24
  don't
• 34:24
  remember.
• 34:24
  I
• 34:25
  know
• 34:25
  the
• 34:25
  Val.
• 34:25
  I
• 34:25
  think
• 34:26
  the
• 34:26
  Valar.
• 34:27
  And
• 34:27
  Morgoth.
• 34:28
  Yeah.
• 34:28
  I
• 34:28
  think
• 34:28
  Morgoth's
• 34:29
  mentioned
• 34:30
  definitely
• 34:30
  in
• 34:30
  the
• 34:30
  movies.
• 34:31
  Theatrical.
• 34:33
  I.
• 34:33
  I
• 34:34
  don't
• 34:34
  know
• 34:34
  if
• 34:35
  the
• 34:35
  Valor.
• 34:35
  I
• 34:35
  think
• 34:36
  the
• 34:36
  Valar
• 34:36
  are
• 34:36
  mentioned.
• 34:38
  Yeah.
• 34:39
  Yeah.
• 34:40
  Oh,
• 34:40
  that
• 34:40
  was
• 34:40
  the
• 34:40
  other
• 34:40
  one
• 34:41
  to
• 34:41
  say
• 34:41
  earlier.
• 34:41
  You
• 34:41
  mentioned
• 34:42
  Melroth
• 34:43
  or
• 34:43
  Melkar.
• 34:44
  I
• 34:44
  can't
• 34:45
  remember
• 34:45
  his
• 34:45
  name.
• 34:45
  Melkor.
• 34:46
  Who
• 34:46
  is
• 34:46
  Morgoth?
• 34:47
  Yeah,
• 34:47
  that's
• 34:47
  Morgoth.
• 34:48
  Yeah.
• 34:48
  For
• 34:48
  those
• 34:48
  who
• 34:48
  didn't
• 34:48
  know,
• 34:49
  same
• 34:49
  character.
• 34:49
  I
• 34:50
  say
• 34:50
  Morgoth.
• 34:50
  And
• 34:50
  he's
• 34:51
  saying
• 34:51
  that
• 34:51
  it
• 34:51
  is
• 34:52
  the
• 34:52
  same
• 34:52
  character
• 34:52
  that
• 34:52
  just.
• 34:53
  Names
• 34:53
  are
• 34:53
  weird.
• 34:54
  Yeah.
• 34:54
  Tolkien
• 34:55
  has
• 34:55
  literally,
• 34:55
  like,
• 34:56
  at
• 34:56
  least
• 34:56
  five
• 34:57
  names
• 34:57
  for
• 34:57
  every
• 34:58
  single
• 34:58
  character.
• 34:59
  So.
• 34:59
  Sorry.
• 34:59
  And
• 35:00
  every
• 35:00
  tree,
• 35:00
  it
• 35:00
  seems
• 35:00
  like.
• 35:01
  And
• 35:01
  every
• 35:01
  tree.
• 35:02
  Yeah,
• 35:02
  that's
• 35:02
  what
• 35:02
  I
• 35:02
  was
• 35:03
  like.
• 35:03
  It's
• 35:03
  just.
• 35:03
  It's
• 35:03
  a
• 35:03
  hard
• 35:03
  thing
• 35:04
  because,
• 35:04
  like,
• 35:05
  yeah,
• 35:05
  everything
• 35:06
  she
• 35:06
  does
• 35:06
  ends
• 35:07
  up
• 35:07
  integral
• 35:08
  not
• 35:08
  only
• 35:08
  to
• 35:08
  the
• 35:09
  story
• 35:09
  of
• 35:09
  the
• 35:09
  Silmarillion,
• 35:10
  but
• 35:12
  everything
• 35:12
  that
• 35:12
  happened
• 35:12
  after,
• 35:13
  like,
• 35:13
  the
• 35:14
  Hobbit,
• 35:14
  I
• 35:14
  feel
• 35:14
  like
• 35:14
  a
• 35:14
  little
• 35:15
  bit
• 35:15
  less
• 35:15
  so.
• 35:15
  I
• 35:16
  mean,
• 35:16
  you
• 35:16
  have
• 35:16
  that,
• 35:16
  like,
• 35:16
  you
• 35:17
  know,
• 35:17
  the
• 35:17
  original
• 35:17
  sin
• 35:18
  Kind
• 35:18
  of
• 35:18
  idea
• 35:18
  of,
• 35:18
  like,
• 35:19
  the
• 35:19
  Silmarils,
• 35:19
  and
• 35:19
  that's
• 35:20
  why
• 35:20
  everything
• 35:20
  bad
• 35:20
  happens.
• 35:21
  But,
• 35:21
  like,
• 35:21
  I
• 35:22
  think
• 35:22
  the
• 35:22
  Hobbit
• 35:23
  stands
• 35:23
  on
• 35:23
  its
• 35:23
  own
• 35:23
  as
• 35:24
  a
• 35:24
  story.
• 35:24
  Yeah,
• 35:25
  for
• 35:25
  sure.
• 35:25
  Yeah.
• 35:26
  But
• 35:26
  the
• 35:26
  Lord
• 35:26
  of
• 35:26
  the
• 35:27
  Rings,
• 35:27
  when
• 35:27
  you
• 35:27
  get
• 35:27
  to,
• 35:27
  like,
• 35:28
  you're
• 35:28
  talking
• 35:28
  about
• 35:28
  Sauron
• 35:29
  and
• 35:29
  the
• 35:29
  connections
• 35:30
  to
• 35:30
  Melkor,
• 35:30
  all
• 35:31
  that
• 35:31
  other
• 35:31
  stuff,
• 35:31
  it's
• 35:31
  like,
• 35:32
  well,
• 35:33
  now
• 35:34
  you
• 35:34
  kind
• 35:35
  of
• 35:35
  have
• 35:35
  to
• 35:35
  see
• 35:35
  the
• 35:36
  Ent.
• 35:36
  See
• 35:36
  who
• 35:36
  created
• 35:37
  the
• 35:37
  Ents.
• 35:37
  And
• 35:37
  then
• 35:37
  you're
• 35:38
  like,
• 35:38
  okay,
• 35:39
  Lord
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  the
• 35:39
  Rings
• 35:39
  doesn't
• 35:39
  work
• 35:40
  without
• 35:40
  Yavanna's
• 35:41
  pardon
• 35:41
  the
• 35:41
  Silmarillion
• 35:42
  like,
• 35:42
  at
• 35:42
  all.
• 35:43
  Yeah,
• 35:44
  yeah,
• 35:44
  She's.
• 35:44
  She's
• 35:45
  pretty
• 35:45
  huge,
• 35:45
  which
• 35:46
  is
• 35:46
  wild.
• 35:46
  I
• 35:46
  think
• 35:46
  you
• 35:47
  could
• 35:47
  probably.
• 35:47
  We
• 35:47
  could
• 35:48
  probably
• 35:48
  do
• 35:48
  the
• 35:48
  same
• 35:48
  with
• 35:48
  all
• 35:49
  Valar,
• 35:50
  but,
• 35:50
  you
• 35:50
  know,
• 35:50
  Yavanna
• 35:51
  seems
• 35:52
  to
• 35:52
  be.
• 35:53
  Have
• 35:54
  a
• 35:54
  higher
• 35:54
  importance
• 35:55
  than
• 35:55
  I
• 35:55
  think
• 35:55
  I
• 35:55
  thought
• 35:56
  about
• 35:56
  before
• 35:57
  this
• 35:57
  episode.
• 35:58
  Yeah.
• 35:58
  Yeah,
• 35:58
  me
• 35:59
  too.
• 35:59
  Because
• 35:59
  I
• 35:59
  was
• 35:59
  like,
• 35:59
  we'll
• 36:00
  talk
• 36:00
  about
• 36:00
  the
• 36:00
  Ents
• 36:00
  and
• 36:00
  then
• 36:01
  maybe
• 36:01
  we'll
• 36:01
  mention
• 36:01
  the
• 36:01
  two
• 36:02
  trees.
• 36:02
  That's
• 36:02
  literally.
• 36:02
  It
• 36:03
  was
• 36:03
  my
• 36:03
  thought
• 36:03
  process,
• 36:03
  and
• 36:03
  I
• 36:03
  was
• 36:03
  like,
• 36:04
  what
• 36:04
  do
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  mean,
• 36:05
  mention
• 36:05
  the
• 36:05
  two
• 36:05
  trees?
• 36:06
  That's
• 36:06
  like
• 36:06
  the
• 36:06
  whole
• 36:06
  deal,
• 36:06
  man.
• 36:07
  Yeah,
• 36:07
  dude.
• 36:09
  Yeah.
• 36:09
  Yeah.
• 36:10
  I
• 36:10
  kind
• 36:10
  of
• 36:10
  got
• 36:10
  crazy
• 36:11
  preparing
• 36:11
  for
• 36:11
  this
• 36:11
  because
• 36:12
  I
• 36:12
  was
• 36:12
  like,
• 36:12
  oh,
• 36:13
  I
• 36:13
  missed
• 36:14
  this.
• 36:14
  It
• 36:15
  was
• 36:15
  my
• 36:15
  idea.
• 36:17
  So
• 36:18
  I
• 36:19
  do
• 36:19
  want
• 36:19
  to
• 36:19
  ask
• 36:19
  you,
• 36:19
  since
• 36:19
  it's
• 36:20
  Arbor
• 36:20
  Day,
• 36:20
  how
• 36:21
  do
• 36:21
  you
• 36:21
  think
• 36:21
  that
• 36:22
  understanding
• 36:22
  the
• 36:23
  character
• 36:23
  of
• 36:23
  Yavanna
• 36:24
  and
• 36:24
  why
• 36:24
  Tolkien
• 36:25
  wrote
• 36:25
  this
• 36:26
  character
• 36:26
  into
• 36:26
  existence
• 36:27
  might
• 36:28
  help
• 36:28
  us
• 36:28
  in
• 36:28
  better
• 36:29
  appreciating
• 36:30
  the
• 36:30
  trees?
• 36:30
  Just
• 36:31
  trees
• 36:31
  in
• 36:31
  general,
• 36:32
  because
• 36:33
  obviously
• 36:33
  Tolkien
• 36:33
  cares
• 36:34
  about
• 36:34
  the
• 36:34
  trees.
• 36:34
  Ivana
• 36:35
  cares
• 36:35
  about
• 36:35
  the
• 36:35
  trees.
• 36:36
  Why
• 36:36
  should
• 36:36
  we
• 36:37
  care
• 36:37
  about
• 36:37
  the
• 36:37
  trees,
• 36:37
  Nick?
• 36:38
  I
• 36:39
  speak
• 36:39
  for
• 36:39
  the
• 36:39
  trees.
• 36:41
  You
• 36:41
  know,.
• 36:45
  I
• 36:45
  love
• 36:45
  the
• 36:46
  Lorax
• 36:46
  reference.
• 36:47
  I
• 36:47
  don't
• 36:47
  think
• 36:47
  we've
• 36:47
  done
• 36:47
  Lorax
• 36:48
  for
• 36:48
  Arbor
• 36:48
  Day
• 36:48
  yet,
• 36:49
  somehow.
• 36:49
  But
• 36:51
  I
• 36:51
  was
• 36:52
  thinking
• 36:52
  of,
• 36:52
  like,
• 36:53
  just.
• 36:53
  There's
• 36:53
  so
• 36:53
  many
• 36:54
  good
• 36:54
  quotes.
• 36:54
  No,
• 36:55
  Cody
• 36:55
  cares
• 36:56
  for
• 36:56
  the
• 36:56
  woods
• 36:56
  as
• 36:56
  I
• 36:56
  care
• 36:57
  for
• 36:57
  them.
• 36:57
  Not
• 36:57
  even
• 36:57
  elves
• 36:58
  nowadays.
• 37:00
  Like,
• 37:00
  I'm
• 37:00
  not
• 37:00
  on
• 37:00
  anybody's
• 37:01
  side.
• 37:01
  Yeah.
• 37:01
  There's
• 37:01
  just
• 37:02
  so
• 37:02
  many,
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  it's
• 37:03
  like,
• 37:04
  who
• 37:04
  will
• 37:04
  shepherd
• 37:05
  the
• 37:05
  trees?
• 37:05
  Like,
• 37:06
  I
• 37:07
  love
• 37:07
  the
• 37:07
  ends.
• 37:07
  Sorry.
• 37:08
  No.
• 37:10
  Why
• 37:10
  should
• 37:10
  we
• 37:11
  care
• 37:11
  about
• 37:11
  trees?
• 37:11
  What
• 37:11
  does
• 37:12
  all
• 37:12
  of
• 37:12
  this
• 37:13
  help
• 37:13
  us?
• 37:14
  Help
• 37:15
  motivate
• 37:15
  us?
• 37:15
  Yeah,
• 37:17
  Yeah.
• 37:17
  I
• 37:17
  think
• 37:17
  a
• 37:18
  lot
• 37:18
  of
• 37:18
  people
• 37:19
  miss
• 37:20
  this
• 37:20
  about
• 37:20
  Tolkien
• 37:21
  in
• 37:21
  a
• 37:21
  lot
• 37:21
  of
• 37:21
  ways
• 37:22
  is
• 37:22
  that
• 37:23
  Tolkien
• 37:24
  was
• 37:24
  very
• 37:25
  much
• 37:25
  an
• 37:27
  anti.
• 37:31
  I'm
• 37:31
  trying
• 37:31
  to
• 37:32
  think
• 37:32
  the
• 37:32
  best
• 37:32
  way
• 37:32
  to
• 37:32
  put
• 37:32
  this
• 37:32
  that's
• 37:33
  accurate.
• 37:34
  I
• 37:34
  always
• 37:34
  say,
• 37:35
  like,
• 37:35
  anti
• 37:35
  industrial,
• 37:36
  but,
• 37:36
  like,
• 37:36
  I
• 37:36
  don't
• 37:36
  think
• 37:36
  he
• 37:37
  was,
• 37:37
  like,
• 37:37
  anti
• 37:37
  progress,
• 37:38
  but,
• 37:38
  like,
• 37:38
  correct.
• 37:39
  Yeah,
• 37:39
  yeah.
• 37:40
  Industrial
• 37:40
  is
• 37:40
  great.
• 37:41
  Anti
• 37:41
  industrial.
• 37:42
  Basically
• 37:43
  just
• 37:44
  production
• 37:44
  for
• 37:45
  the
• 37:45
  sake
• 37:45
  of
• 37:45
  production.
• 37:46
  When
• 37:46
  it
• 37:46
  comes
• 37:46
  to
• 37:47
  the,
• 37:47
  you
• 37:47
  know,
• 37:48
  the
• 37:48
  cutting
• 37:48
  down
• 37:48
  of
• 37:49
  trees.
• 37:49
  And
• 37:50
  part
• 37:50
  of
• 37:50
  this
• 37:50
  is
• 37:51
  informed
• 37:52
  by
• 37:52
  the
• 37:52
  way
• 37:52
  that
• 37:52
  he
• 37:53
  created.
• 37:53
  He
• 37:53
  grew
• 37:54
  up
• 37:54
  in
• 37:54
  a
• 37:54
  place
• 37:54
  called
• 37:54
  Sarehole
• 37:55
  Mill,
• 37:56
  which
• 37:56
  was
• 37:56
  just
• 37:57
  like
• 37:57
  a
• 37:57
  little
• 37:57
  country
• 37:58
  paradise.
• 37:59
  And
• 37:59
  so
• 38:00
  when
• 38:00
  Tolkien
• 38:00
  came
• 38:01
  back,
• 38:01
  it
• 38:01
  was
• 38:01
  like
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  Scouring
• 38:02
  of
• 38:02
  The
• 38:02
  shire
• 38:03
  factories
• 38:03
  everywhere,
• 38:05
  70s
• 38:06
  and
• 38:06
  60s
• 38:06
  style
• 38:07
  brick
• 38:07
  houses,
• 38:08
  which
• 38:08
  are
• 38:08
  just
• 38:08
  the
• 38:08
  ugliest
• 38:09
  form
• 38:09
  of
• 38:09
  architecture
• 38:10
  across
• 38:11
  the
• 38:11
  Western
• 38:12
  world.
• 38:12
  Indeed.
• 38:14
  Gosh,
• 38:14
  yeah.
• 38:15
  When
• 38:15
  you
• 38:15
  look
• 38:15
  at
• 38:15
  old
• 38:15
  colleges
• 38:16
  that
• 38:16
  were
• 38:16
  made
• 38:16
  in
• 38:16
  the
• 38:16
  60s
• 38:17
  and
• 38:17
  70s,
• 38:17
  ugly
• 38:18
  red
• 38:18
  brick
• 38:19
  buildings.
• 38:22
  But
• 38:22
  Tolkien,
• 38:23
  I
• 38:23
  mean,
• 38:23
  just
• 38:24
  the
• 38:24
  fact
• 38:24
  that
• 38:24
  trees
• 38:25
  are
• 38:25
  such
• 38:25
  a
• 38:25
  huge
• 38:25
  part.
• 38:26
  And
• 38:26
  Tolkien
• 38:26
  actually
• 38:27
  talks
• 38:27
  about,
• 38:28
  in
• 38:28
  letters
• 38:28
  and
• 38:28
  friends
• 38:29
  would
• 38:29
  talk
• 38:29
  about
• 38:29
  how
• 38:29
  he
• 38:30
  would
• 38:30
  just
• 38:30
  be
• 38:30
  really
• 38:30
  upset
• 38:31
  when
• 38:32
  people
• 38:32
  would
• 38:32
  cut
• 38:32
  down
• 38:33
  trees.
• 38:34
  But
• 38:35
  the
• 38:35
  trees
• 38:36
  are
• 38:36
  ultimately
• 38:37
  how
• 38:38
  we
• 38:38
  have
• 38:38
  the
• 38:38
  beginning
• 38:40
  of
• 38:41
  the
• 38:41
  stories.
• 38:42
  The
• 38:43
  White
• 38:43
  Tree
• 38:43
  of
• 38:44
  Gondor
• 38:44
  is
• 38:44
  a
• 38:44
  symbol.
• 38:45
  The
• 38:45
  Ents
• 38:47
  are
• 38:47
  integral
• 38:48
  to
• 38:50
  saving
• 38:50
  things.
• 38:50
  And
• 38:51
  they're
• 38:51
  the
• 38:51
  ones
• 38:51
  who
• 38:51
  are
• 38:52
  left
• 38:52
  alone
• 38:52
  and
• 38:53
  chopped
• 38:53
  down.
• 38:54
  And
• 38:54
  Tolkien
• 38:54
  feels
• 38:55
  sad
• 38:55
  about
• 38:55
  that.
• 38:55
  And
• 38:55
  Tolkien
• 38:56
  even
• 38:56
  compares
• 38:57
  his
• 38:57
  entire
• 38:57
  Middle
• 38:58
  Earth
• 38:58
  project
• 38:58
  to
• 38:59
  a
• 38:59
  tree
• 38:59
  itself
• 39:01
  and
• 39:01
  hopes
• 39:02
  that
• 39:02
  his
• 39:02
  tree
• 39:03
  of
• 39:03
  his
• 39:03
  story
• 39:04
  will
• 39:04
  literally
• 39:05
  come
• 39:05
  alive
• 39:06
  in
• 39:07
  the
• 39:07
  afterlife.
• 39:08
  And
• 39:08
  so
• 39:08
  I
• 39:08
  think
• 39:08
  that
• 39:10
  we
• 39:10
  should
• 39:10
  take
• 39:10
  the
• 39:11
  words
• 39:11
  of
• 39:13
  Treebeard
• 39:13
  seriously
• 39:14
  because
• 39:14
  even
• 39:15
  though
• 39:15
  they're
• 39:15
  his
• 39:15
  words,
• 39:16
  they're
• 39:17
  partially
• 39:17
  Tolkien's
• 39:17
  words
• 39:18
  because
• 39:18
  Tolkien
• 39:18
  wrote
• 39:18
  them.
• 39:19
  So.
• 39:19
  Yeah,
• 39:21
  yeah,
• 39:21
  yeah.
• 39:21
  No,
• 39:22
  I
• 39:22
  agree.
• 39:22
  Care
• 39:23
  for
• 39:23
  the
• 39:23
  trees.
• 39:24
  Yeah.
• 39:24
  And
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  love
• 39:25
  it.
• 39:25
  And
• 39:25
  I
• 39:25
  think
• 39:26
  to
• 39:26
  me,
• 39:26
  a
• 39:27
  lot
• 39:27
  of
• 39:27
  it
• 39:27
  boils
• 39:27
  down
• 39:28
  to
• 39:28
  I'm
• 39:29
  a
• 39:29
  visual
• 39:29
  person.
• 39:29
  So
• 39:30
  sometimes
• 39:30
  the
• 39:30
  movies
• 39:30
  stand
• 39:31
  out
• 39:31
  more
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  me
• 39:31
  and
• 39:31
  sometimes
• 39:32
  the
• 39:32
  book
• 39:32
  does.
• 39:32
  It
• 39:32
  just
• 39:32
  depends
• 39:34
  the
• 39:34
  scene
• 39:35
  in
• 39:35
  the
• 39:35
  movie.
• 39:36
  And
• 39:37
  you
• 39:37
  have
• 39:37
  Saruman
• 39:38
  having
• 39:38
  the
• 39:38
  Uruk
• 39:38
  Hai
• 39:39
  created
• 39:39
  and
• 39:39
  you
• 39:39
  see
• 39:39
  him
• 39:40
  tearing
• 39:40
  down
• 39:40
  trees
• 39:40
  and
• 39:41
  using
• 39:41
  industry
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  kind
• 39:43
  of
• 39:43
  create
• 39:43
  these
• 39:43
  new
• 39:44
  monsters
• 39:44
  so
• 39:44
  he
• 39:44
  can
• 39:45
  win
• 39:45
  the
• 39:46
  wars
• 39:46
  or,
• 39:46
  you
• 39:46
  know,
• 39:47
  whatever
• 39:47
  half
• 39:47
  power,
• 39:48
  whatever
• 39:49
  thing
• 39:49
  he's
• 39:50
  up
• 39:50
  to
• 39:50
  his
• 39:50
  new
• 39:51
  scheme.
• 39:52
  And
• 39:52
  like,
• 39:52
  visually
• 39:53
  seeing
• 39:53
  the
• 39:53
  destruction
• 39:54
  of
• 39:54
  the
• 39:54
  forest
• 39:55
  and
• 39:55
  then
• 39:55
  Treebeard
• 39:56
  looking
• 39:56
  out
• 39:56
  at
• 39:57
  it
• 39:57
  and
• 39:57
  going,
• 39:57
  he
• 39:58
  should
• 39:58
  know
• 39:58
  better.
• 40:00
  And
• 40:00
  like,
• 40:01
  to
• 40:01
  me,
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  Maenar,
• 40:02
  since,
• 40:03
  you
• 40:03
  know,
• 40:03
  I
• 40:04
  think
• 40:04
  of
• 40:04
  the
• 40:04
  Maynard
• 40:04
  as
• 40:04
  saints,
• 40:05
  right?
• 40:05
  That's
• 40:05
  just.
• 40:06
  That's
• 40:06
  in
• 40:06
  my
• 40:06
  brain.
• 40:07
  That's
• 40:07
  what
• 40:07
  they
• 40:07
  are.
• 40:08
  I'm
• 40:08
  looking
• 40:08
  at
• 40:08
  like
• 40:08
  the
• 40:08
  church
• 40:09
  and
• 40:09
  leaders
• 40:09
  of
• 40:09
  our
• 40:09
  church
• 40:10
  and.
• 40:10
  And
• 40:10
  how
• 40:11
  many
• 40:11
  of
• 40:11
  us,
• 40:11
  like,
• 40:11
  just
• 40:11
  sit
• 40:11
  by,
• 40:12
  do
• 40:12
  nothing
• 40:12
  as
• 40:13
  the
• 40:13
  trees
• 40:13
  are
• 40:13
  being
• 40:13
  torn
• 40:13
  down
• 40:14
  or
• 40:14
  like,
• 40:14
  we're
• 40:14
  okay
• 40:14
  with
• 40:15
  building
• 40:15
  these
• 40:15
  giant
• 40:16
  mega
• 40:16
  churches
• 40:17
  that
• 40:17
  have
• 40:17
  no
• 40:17
  function.
• 40:18
  And
• 40:18
  it's
• 40:18
  like,
• 40:19
  he
• 40:19
  should
• 40:20
  know
• 40:20
  better.
• 40:21
  And
• 40:21
  like,
• 40:21
  I
• 40:21
  feel
• 40:22
  that
• 40:22
  so
• 40:22
  deeply
• 40:23
  in
• 40:23
  the
• 40:23
  movie.
• 40:24
  And
• 40:24
  I
• 40:24
  don't
• 40:25
  know,
• 40:25
  to
• 40:25
  me,
• 40:25
  like,
• 40:25
  a
• 40:25
  lot
• 40:25
  of
• 40:26
  it
• 40:26
  boils
• 40:26
  down
• 40:26
  that,
• 40:26
  like,
• 40:26
  yes,
• 40:27
  that's
• 40:27
  Treebeard,
• 40:28
  but
• 40:28
  why
• 40:28
  is
• 40:29
  Treebeard
• 40:29
  who
• 40:29
  he
• 40:30
  is.
• 40:30
  He
• 40:30
  doesn't
• 40:31
  get
• 40:31
  that.
• 40:31
  He
• 40:31
  doesn't
• 40:31
  say
• 40:32
  that
• 40:32
  line.
• 40:32
  That's
• 40:32
  not
• 40:33
  an
• 40:33
  important
• 40:33
  thing.
• 40:33
  Without
• 40:34
  Yavanna
• 40:34
  being
• 40:34
  the
• 40:35
  face
• 40:35
  behind
• 40:35
  Treebeard.
• 40:36
  There
• 40:36
  we
• 40:36
  go.
• 40:37
  I
• 40:38
  plugged
• 40:38
  the
• 40:38
  series.
• 40:39
  Well
• 40:39
  played.
• 40:40
  Well
• 40:40
  played.
• 40:40
  Yeah.
• 40:41
  Yeah.
• 40:42
  Okay.
• 40:42
  And
• 40:43
  yeah,
• 40:43
  Tolkien,
• 40:43
  someone
• 40:44
  who
• 40:44
  served
• 40:44
  in
• 40:44
  the
• 40:44
  war,
• 40:45
  wrote
• 40:45
  these
• 40:45
  incredible
• 40:46
  stories.
• 40:46
  All
• 40:46
  this
• 40:46
  stuff
• 40:46
  and
• 40:47
  trees
• 40:47
  being
• 40:47
  so
• 40:47
  important
• 40:47
  to
• 40:48
  him.
• 40:48
  Yeah.
• 40:48
  You
• 40:49
  know,
• 40:49
  I'm
• 40:49
  going
• 40:49
  to
• 40:49
  name
• 40:50
  Tolkien
• 40:50
  is
• 40:50
  my
• 40:51
  personal
• 40:51
  Saint
• 40:51
  of
• 40:51
  the
• 40:51
  trees.
• 40:52
  I
• 40:52
  love
• 40:52
  that.
• 40:53
  I
• 40:53
  love
• 40:53
  that.
• 40:54
  Yeah.
• 40:55
  Well,
• 40:55
  with
• 40:55
  that
• 40:56
  then,
• 40:57
  we
• 40:57
  do
• 40:57
  have
• 40:57
  to
• 40:57
  wrap
• 40:57
  this
• 40:58
  one
• 40:58
  up,
• 40:58
  but
• 40:59
  we
• 40:59
  have
• 40:59
  to
• 40:59
  give
• 40:59
  a
• 40:59
  recommendation
• 41:00
  for
• 41:00
  people.
• 41:01
  I'm
• 41:01
  going
• 41:01
  to
• 41:01
  cop
• 41:01
  out
• 41:02
  and
• 41:02
  say
• 41:02
  that
• 41:03
  that
• 41:03
  $2
• 41:03
  version
• 41:03
  of
• 41:04
  Silmarillion
• 41:04
  that
• 41:05
  you
• 41:05
  could
• 41:05
  get
• 41:06
  through
• 41:06
  Audible,
• 41:07
  that's
• 41:07
  also
• 41:08
  works
• 41:08
  as
• 41:08
  a
• 41:08
  Kindle.
• 41:09
  I
• 41:09
  think
• 41:09
  you
• 41:10
  buy
• 41:10
  it
• 41:10
  on
• 41:10
  Kindle
• 41:10
  and
• 41:10
  then
• 41:10
  it
• 41:10
  also
• 41:11
  works
• 41:11
  on
• 41:11
  Audible
• 41:12
  so
• 41:12
  you
• 41:12
  can
• 41:12
  switch
• 41:12
  between
• 41:13
  the
• 41:13
  reading
• 41:13
  and
• 41:13
  listening
• 41:14
  effortlessly.
• 41:16
  That's
• 41:16
  my
• 41:16
  recommendation.
• 41:17
  That's
• 41:17
  just
• 41:17
  such
• 41:17
  a
• 41:18
  convenient
• 41:18
  way
• 41:18
  to
• 41:18
  read
• 41:19
  something.
• 41:20
  You
• 41:20
  never
• 41:20
  have
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  stop.
• 41:21
  I'm
• 41:22
  gonna
• 41:22
  cop
• 41:22
  out
• 41:22
  too
• 41:23
  and
• 41:23
  say
• 41:23
  Rooster
• 41:24
  Fighter.
• 41:24
  Like,
• 41:24
  I
• 41:25
  really
• 41:25
  think
• 41:25
  it's
• 41:26
  so
• 41:26
  unique
• 41:26
  and
• 41:26
  weird
• 41:27
  and
• 41:28
  I.
• 41:28
  I've
• 41:28
  said
• 41:29
  this
• 41:29
  to
• 41:29
  friends.
• 41:29
  I'm
• 41:29
  like,
• 41:29
  if
• 41:30
  you
• 41:30
  give
• 41:30
  it
• 41:30
  a
• 41:30
  chance,
• 41:30
  I
• 41:31
  want
• 41:31
  to
• 41:31
  just
• 41:31
  talk
• 41:31
  to
• 41:31
  people
• 41:32
  about
• 41:32
  it
• 41:32
  because
• 41:32
  it's
• 41:33
  so
• 41:33
  insane
• 41:34
  and
• 41:34
  awesome.
• 41:35
  So
• 41:35
  Rooster
• 41:36
  5,
• 41:36
  so
• 41:36
  far
• 41:36
  I've
• 41:37
  loved
• 41:37
  everything
• 41:37
  that
• 41:38
  Nick
• 41:38
  has
• 41:38
  recommended,
• 41:39
  so
• 41:39
  I'm
• 41:39
  going
• 41:40
  to
• 41:40
  be
• 41:40
  checking
• 41:40
  that
• 41:40
  out.
• 41:41
  Nick's.
• 41:41
  Nick
• 41:42
  is
• 41:42
  the
• 41:43
  saint
• 41:43
  of
• 41:43
  recommendations
• 41:44
  on
• 41:45
  systematic
• 41:45
  ecology.
• 41:47
  We're
• 41:47
  going
• 41:47
  to
• 41:47
  name
• 41:48
  that
• 41:48
  now,
• 41:50
  guys.
• 41:50
  Speaking
• 41:51
  of
• 41:51
  which,
• 41:51
  Nick
• 41:51
  and
• 41:51
  I
• 41:51
  both
• 41:52
  recommend
• 41:52
  that
• 41:52
  you
• 41:52
  rate
• 41:53
  and
• 41:53
  review
• 41:53
  our
• 41:53
  show.
• 41:54
  Wherever
• 41:54
  you
• 41:54
  get
• 41:54
  your
• 41:54
  podcast,
• 41:55
  whether
• 41:55
  it's
• 41:55
  Spotify,
• 41:56
  Apple
• 41:56
  Podcasts,
• 41:57
  wherever.
• 41:57
  It
• 41:57
  helps
• 41:58
  get
• 41:59
  our
• 41:59
  show
• 41:59
  noticed
• 41:59
  by
• 41:59
  others
• 41:59
  so
• 42:00
  that
• 42:00
  other
• 42:00
  people
• 42:00
  listen
• 42:00
  and
• 42:00
  we
• 42:01
  can
• 42:01
  keep
• 42:01
  doing
• 42:01
  this.
• 42:02
  What
• 42:02
  also
• 42:03
  helps
• 42:03
  us
• 42:03
  keep
• 42:03
  doing
• 42:03
  this
• 42:03
  is
• 42:04
  our
• 42:04
  financial
• 42:04
  supporters.
• 42:05
  Again,
• 42:05
  thank
• 42:06
  you,
• 42:06
  Tripp.
• 42:07
  We
• 42:08
  couldn't
• 42:08
  do
• 42:08
  this
• 42:08
  without
• 42:08
  you.
• 42:09
  And
• 42:09
  your
• 42:10
  love
• 42:10
  for
• 42:10
  Tolkien
• 42:10
  continues
• 42:11
  to
• 42:11
  inspire
• 42:11
  us
• 42:11
  to
• 42:12
  keep
• 42:12
  loving
• 42:12
  him
• 42:12
  more.
• 42:13
  Amen.
• 42:14
  You're
• 42:14
  the
• 42:14
  best.
• 42:15
  Smooches,
• 42:16
  guys.
• 42:16
  If
• 42:16
  you
• 42:17
  want,
• 42:17
  you
• 42:17
  can
• 42:17
  get
• 42:18
  your
• 42:18
  own
• 42:18
  shout
• 42:18
  out
• 42:19
  on
• 42:19
  the
• 42:19
  becoming
• 42:19
  a
• 42:20
  member
• 42:20
  on
• 42:20
  the
• 42:20
  website,
• 42:21
  link
• 42:21
  in
• 42:21
  the
• 42:21
  description.
• 42:22
  Same
• 42:22
  website,
• 42:22
  you
• 42:22
  can
• 42:23
  get
• 42:23
  some
• 42:23
  other
• 42:23
  free
• 42:23
  extra
• 42:23
  content.
• 42:24
  Trips
• 42:24
  on
• 42:25
  some
• 42:25
  of
• 42:25
  it.
• 42:26
  You
• 42:26
  can
• 42:26
  get
• 42:26
  some
• 42:26
  extra
• 42:27
  merch.
• 42:28
  You
• 42:28
  can
• 42:28
  leave
• 42:28
  a
• 42:28
  one
• 42:28
  time
• 42:29
  financial
• 42:29
  gift
• 42:29
  without
• 42:30
  subscribing
• 42:30
  to
• 42:30
  anything.
• 42:31
  If
• 42:31
  you
• 42:31
  want
• 42:31
  lots
• 42:32
  of
• 42:32
  stuff
• 42:32
  you
• 42:32
  can
• 42:32
  do
• 42:32
  on
• 42:33
  that
• 42:33
  website,
• 42:33
  link
• 42:34
  in
• 42:34
  the
• 42:34
  description.
• 42:34
  Lots
• 42:35
  of
• 42:35
  links
• 42:35
  down
• 42:35
  there.
• 42:35
  Make
• 42:35
  sure
• 42:36
  you
• 42:36
  read
• 42:36
  the
• 42:36
  description.
• 42:36
  I
• 42:37
  put
• 42:37
  a
• 42:37
  lot
• 42:37
  of
• 42:37
  work
• 42:37
  into
• 42:37
  it,
• 42:37
  so
• 42:38
  it
• 42:38
  means
• 42:38
  a
• 42:38
  lot
• 42:38
  to
• 42:38
  me
• 42:38
  when
• 42:39
  you
• 42:39
  read
• 42:39
  it.
• 42:41
  Also,
• 42:41
  if
• 42:41
  you
• 42:41
  want
• 42:41
  to
• 42:42
  hear
• 42:42
  the
• 42:42
  rest
• 42:42
  of
• 42:42
  our
• 42:42
  series.
• 42:43
  There's
• 42:43
  a
• 42:43
  playlist.
• 42:43
  Again,
• 42:44
  link
• 42:44
  in
• 42:44
  the
• 42:44
  description,
• 42:45
  description
• 42:45
  of
• 42:45
  all
• 42:46
  of
• 42:46
  the
• 42:46
  faces
• 42:46
  behind
• 42:46
  the
• 42:47
  series.
• 42:47
  And
• 42:47
  it's
• 42:47
  been
• 42:47
  a
• 42:47
  blast
• 42:48
  so
• 42:48
  far,
• 42:48
  so
• 42:49
  I'd
• 42:49
  appreciate
• 42:49
  if
• 42:50
  you
• 42:50
  check
• 42:50
  it
• 42:50
  out.
• 42:50
  Also,
• 42:51
  remember
• 42:51
  that
• 42:51
  T
• 42:51
  shirt
• 42:52
  up
• 42:52
  there
• 42:52
  in
• 42:52
  the
• 42:52
  corner
• 42:52
  if
• 42:53
  you're,
• 42:53
  if
• 42:54
  you're
• 42:54
  watching.
• 42:54
  It's
• 42:55
  a
• 42:55
  good
• 42:55
  shirt.
• 42:55
  Faces
• 42:56
  behind
• 42:56
  us
• 42:56
  get
• 42:56
  on
• 42:56
  the
• 42:56
  website.
• 42:57
  And
• 42:57
  of
• 42:57
  course,
• 42:58
  you
• 42:58
  got
• 42:58
  to
• 42:58
  remember,
• 42:58
  we're
• 42:59
  all
• 42:59
  a
• 42:59
  chosen
• 42:59
  people.
• 43:00
  A
• 43:00
  geek,
• 43:00
  dumb
• 43:01
  of
• 43:02
  priests.
• 43:10
  It.