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From McMansions to Mini-Homes: Rethinking Housing Affordability · Around the House with Eric G®: Home Improvement Remodeling & DIY

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  Eric
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  G.
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  for
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  all
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  things
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  home
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  improvement.
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  Whether
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  you're
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  tackling
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  a
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  DIY
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  project,
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  hiring
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  it
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  out,
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  or
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  just
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  trying
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  to
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  keep
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  your
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  home
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  running
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  smoothly,
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  you're
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  in
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  the
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  right
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  place.
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  With
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  over
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  30
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  years
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  of
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  remodeling
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  experience,
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  certified
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  kitchen
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  designer
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  Eric
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  G.
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  expert
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  advice,
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  the
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  innovations
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  for
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  need
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  let's
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  get
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  this
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  show
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  started
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  with
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  our
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  host,
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  Eric
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  G.
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  And
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  John
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  Dudley.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  the
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  around
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  the
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  House
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  show,
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  the
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  next
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  generation
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  of
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  home
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  improvement.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  joining
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  us
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  today.
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  I'm
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  Eric
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  G.
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  In
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  the
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  co
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  pilot
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  seat.
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  We
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  got
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  my
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  buddy
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  John
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  Dudley.
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  Welcome
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  back,
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  brother.
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  What's
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  happening,
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  man?
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  I'm
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  still
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  reeling
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  from
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  the
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  price
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  talk.
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  We
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  were
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  just
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  having
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  people
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  into
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  this.
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  If
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  find
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  out
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  more
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  about
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  us
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  and
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  we'd
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  love
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  to
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  hear
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  from
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  you.
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  All
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  the
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  new
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  out
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  there
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  on
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  the
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  find
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  us@aroundthehouse
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  online.com
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  we
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  were
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  talking
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  in
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  the
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  previous
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  hour
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  of
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  the
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  show
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  and
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  I
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  decided
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  to
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  do
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  a
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  dive
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  and
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  get
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  some
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  numbers.
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  And
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  this
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  is
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  a
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  perfect
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  example.
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  So
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  we'll
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  be
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  talking
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  about
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  affordable
• 2:04
  housing
• 2:04
  here
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  in
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  a
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  second,
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  guys.
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  But
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  I
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  want
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  to
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  continue
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  this
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  because
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  this
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  just
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  shows
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  the
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  difference
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  with
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  shopping
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  around.
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  If
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  I
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  go
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  to
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  my
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  local
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  Home
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  Depot
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  store
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  up
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  the
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  street
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  here
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  and
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  take
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  a
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  look
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  at
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  what
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  50ft
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  of
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  102
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  Romex
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  would
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  be.
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  $165
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  for
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  50ft
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  now
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  shows
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  that
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  they
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  have
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  three
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  of
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  those
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  in
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  stock
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  up
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  at
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  my
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  local
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  store
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  around
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  the
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  corner.
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  Now
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  if
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  I
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  go
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  over
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  to
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  Amazon.com
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  that
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  same
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  roll
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  of
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  wire
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  is,
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  oh,
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  this
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  is
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  for
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  100ft
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  is
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  7939.
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  So
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  50ft
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  is
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  165,
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  but
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  I
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  can
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  buy
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  double
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  of
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  that
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  for
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  79.
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  Less
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  than
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  half
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  for
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  more
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  than
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  double
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  the
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  product.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  just
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  to
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  iterate
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  like
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  we're
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  talking
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  about
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  planning
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  projects
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  and
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  how
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  to
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  source
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  materials
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  and
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  being
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  aware,
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  not
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  getting
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  excited
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  in
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  Home
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  Depot
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  and
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  actually
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  doing
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  some
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  research.
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  And
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  man,
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  what
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  a
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  perfect
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  point.
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  You
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  got
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  to
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  buy
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  four
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  rolls
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  of
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  that
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  stuff.
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  You
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  just
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  paid
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  for
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  a
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  kitchen
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  sink
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  again
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  or
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  a
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  toilet
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  or
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  a.
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  Yeah,
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  whatever
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  you're
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  doing
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  in
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  your
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  remodel.
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  Yeah.
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  At
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  $79,
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  you
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  save
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  3,
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  400
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  bucks.
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  And
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  you
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  get
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  it
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  tomorrow
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  and
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  you
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  don't
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  have
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  to
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  leave
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  your
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  house.
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  Not
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  that
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  I
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  like
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  to
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  tout
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  Amazon,
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  but
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  damn,
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  I
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  don't
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  either.
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  But
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  this
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  one
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  here,
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  I'm
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  literally
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  talking
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  about
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  it
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  because
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  100ft
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  of
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  that
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  on
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  Amazon
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  is
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  216.
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  Yeah.
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  Versus
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  79
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  on
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  Home
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  Depot,
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  you
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  mean?
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  Yeah,
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  but
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  yeah,
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  yeah.
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  So
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  Home
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  Depot.com
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  is
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  216
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  and
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  Amazon
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  is
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  79.
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  39.
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  That's
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  just
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  for
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  the
• 3:39
  same
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  product.
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  That's
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  literally
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  three
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  times.
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  Yeah,
• 3:42
  almost.
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  Almost.
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  That's
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  where
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  you
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  definitely
• 3:44
  got
• 3:44
  to
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  do
• 3:44
  the
• 3:44
  math
• 3:45
  and
• 3:45
  save
• 3:45
  some
• 3:45
  money.
• 3:45
  Talking
• 3:46
  about
• 3:46
  saving
• 3:46
  money,
• 3:46
  this
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  is
• 3:47
  one
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  my.
• 3:47
  We're
• 3:48
  going
• 3:48
  to
• 3:48
  get
• 3:48
  into
• 3:48
  my
• 3:48
  pet
• 3:48
  peeve
• 3:49
  in
• 3:49
  yours
• 3:49
  too.
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  Yeah,
• 3:51
  here
• 3:51
  we
• 3:51
  go.
• 3:52
  And
• 3:52
  affordable
• 3:52
  housing
• 3:53
  is
• 3:53
  something
• 3:53
  that
• 3:54
  we've
• 3:54
  been
• 3:54
  talking
• 3:54
  about,
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  the
• 3:55
  politicians
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  have
• 3:56
  been
• 3:57
  talking
• 3:57
  about
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  and
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  there
• 3:58
  are
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  so
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  many
• 3:59
  different
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  facets
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  about
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  it.
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  I
• 4:01
  thought
• 4:01
  Johnny
• 4:01
  would.
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  I
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  just
• 4:02
  have
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  great
• 4:02
  conversation
• 4:03
  with
• 4:03
  you
• 4:03
  guys
• 4:03
  today
• 4:04
  about
• 4:04
  this
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  because
• 4:05
  there
• 4:05
  isn't
• 4:06
  a
• 4:06
  one
• 4:06
  size
• 4:07
  fits
• 4:07
  all
• 4:08
  here.
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  But
• 4:09
  there's
• 4:09
  a
• 4:09
  lot
• 4:10
  of
• 4:10
  big
• 4:10
  pieces
• 4:11
  that
• 4:11
  are
• 4:11
  creating
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  the
• 4:12
  problem
• 4:12
  that
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  we
• 4:13
  have
• 4:13
  of
• 4:13
  getting
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  people
• 4:14
  into
• 4:14
  homes
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  or
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  into
• 4:16
  their
• 4:16
  first
• 4:16
  home
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  and
• 4:17
  maybe
• 4:17
  getting
• 4:17
  them
• 4:18
  out
• 4:18
  of
• 4:18
  an
• 4:18
  apartment
• 4:19
  or
• 4:19
  renting
• 4:20
  and
• 4:20
  get
• 4:20
  them
• 4:20
  into
• 4:20
  being
• 4:20
  a
• 4:21
  homeowner.
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  And
• 4:22
  I
• 4:23
  wanted
• 4:23
  to
• 4:23
  start
• 4:23
  out
• 4:24
  with
• 4:24
  one
• 4:24
  thing
• 4:24
  first
• 4:25
  because
• 4:25
  I
• 4:25
  started
• 4:25
  doing
• 4:26
  some
• 4:26
  research
• 4:26
  here
• 4:27
  and
• 4:27
  one
• 4:27
  of
• 4:27
  our
• 4:27
  biggest
• 4:28
  problems
• 4:29
  nationwide
• 4:29
  because
• 4:30
  there's
• 4:30
  a
• 4:30
  lot
• 4:30
  of
• 4:30
  things
• 4:31
  that
• 4:31
  are
• 4:31
  happening
• 4:31
  regionally
• 4:32
  that
• 4:32
  cause
• 4:32
  this
• 4:32
  mistake
• 4:33
  of
• 4:33
  getting
• 4:34
  expensive
• 4:34
  housing.
• 4:35
  But
• 4:36
  let's
• 4:36
  talk
• 4:36
  about
• 4:36
  this.
• 4:37
  In
• 4:37
  1950,
• 4:38
  the
• 4:39
  average
• 4:39
  new
• 4:40
  starter
• 4:40
  home
• 4:41
  was
• 4:41
  983
• 4:43
  square
• 4:44
  feet.
• 4:45
  So
• 4:45
  you
• 4:45
  had
• 4:45
  a
• 4:46
  two
• 4:46
  bedroom,
• 4:46
  one
• 4:46
  bath.
• 4:47
  Look
• 4:47
  at
• 4:47
  Levittown
• 4:48
  developments
• 4:49
  out
• 4:49
  there
• 4:49
  on
• 4:50
  the
• 4:50
  east
• 4:50
  coast.
• 4:51
  We
• 4:51
  have
• 4:51
  lots
• 4:52
  of
• 4:52
  stations
• 4:52
  that
• 4:53
  way.
• 4:53
  Those
• 4:54
  were
• 4:54
  two
• 4:54
  bedroom,
• 4:55
  one
• 4:55
  bath,
• 4:56
  750
• 4:57
  to
• 4:57
  800
• 4:58
  square
• 4:58
  feet.
• 4:59
  Yeah.
• 5:00
  So
• 5:00
  the
• 5:00
  problem
• 5:00
  is
• 5:01
  in
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  70s
• 5:02
  that
• 5:02
  went
• 5:02
  from
• 5:02
  1500
• 5:03
  to
• 5:03
  1700
• 5:04
  square
• 5:04
  feet.
• 5:05
  And
• 5:05
  now
• 5:05
  we're
• 5:06
  closer
• 5:06
  to
• 5:06
  2500
• 5:07
  square
• 5:07
  feet.
• 5:08
  Stop
• 5:08
  supersizing
• 5:09
  people.
• 5:10
  Yeah,
• 5:11
  yeah.
• 5:11
  We
• 5:11
  have
• 5:12
  now
• 5:12
  gone
• 5:12
  from
• 5:12
  what
• 5:12
  McDonald's
• 5:13
  called
• 5:13
  a
• 5:14
  large
• 5:14
  Coke
• 5:14
  in
• 5:15
  1965
• 5:16
  to.
• 5:16
  To
• 5:17
  a
• 5:17
  Big
• 5:17
  Gulp.
• 5:18
  To
• 5:18
  a
• 5:18
  big
• 5:18
  gulp.
• 5:19
  Exactly.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  then
• 5:20
  a
• 5:21
  super
• 5:21
  big
• 5:21
  Gulp.
• 5:21
  Right.
• 5:22
  That's
• 5:22
  what
• 5:22
  we
• 5:22
  do
• 5:23
  it.
• 5:23
  But
• 5:24
  it's
• 5:24
  even.
• 5:24
  Yeah,
• 5:24
  but
• 5:25
  it's
• 5:25
  even
• 5:25
  more
• 5:25
  complex
• 5:26
  than
• 5:26
  that.
• 5:26
  So
• 5:26
  if
• 5:26
  you
• 5:26
  take
• 5:27
  that
• 5:27
  1950
• 5:29
  median
• 5:30
  house
• 5:31
  value,
• 5:31
  you
• 5:32
  know,
• 5:32
  back
• 5:32
  then
• 5:33
  when
• 5:33
  you
• 5:33
  bought
• 5:33
  it,
• 5:33
  it
• 5:33
  was
• 5:33
  7
• 5:34
  to
• 5:34
  $8,000.
• 5:35
  So
• 5:36
  let's
• 5:36
  look
• 5:36
  at
• 5:36
  these
• 5:36
  numbers
• 5:37
  here.
• 5:38
  So
• 5:38
  in
• 5:38
  1950
• 5:39
  home,
• 5:39
  if
• 5:40
  you
• 5:40
  adjust
• 5:40
  that
• 5:41
  to
• 5:41
  20,
• 5:42
  $25,
• 5:43
  now
• 5:43
  20,
• 5:44
  26,
• 5:44
  you're
• 5:44
  at
• 5:45
  100,000
• 5:46
  to
• 5:46
  $110,000
• 5:47
  for
• 5:47
  that
• 5:47
  home.
• 5:48
  Yeah.
• 5:49
  Now
• 5:50
  you're
• 5:50
  even
• 5:51
  60s
• 5:52
  homes,
• 5:53
  which
• 5:53
  were
• 5:53
  12
• 5:54
  to
• 5:54
  17,000
• 5:55
  back
• 5:55
  then,
• 5:56
  in
• 5:56
  $2026
• 5:58
  is
• 5:58
  one
• 5:58
  hundred
• 5:58
  and
• 5:58
  twenty
• 5:58
  to
• 5:59
  one
• 5:59
  hundred
• 5:59
  fifty
• 5:59
  thousand.
• 6:00
  But
• 6:00
  now
• 6:00
  in
• 6:01
  the
• 6:01
  US
• 6:01
  it's
• 6:01
  four
• 6:01
  hundred
• 6:01
  and
• 6:02
  ten
• 6:02
  to
• 6:02
  four
• 6:02
  hundred
• 6:02
  and
• 6:02
  thirty
• 6:02
  five
• 6:03
  is
• 6:03
  the
• 6:03
  median.
• 6:04
  Man,
• 6:04
  oh
• 6:05
  man.
• 6:05
  Dude.
• 6:06
  Now
• 6:06
  we've
• 6:07
  got
• 6:07
  lots
• 6:07
  of
• 6:07
  different
• 6:08
  things
• 6:08
  in
• 6:08
  there.
• 6:08
  Of
• 6:09
  course,
• 6:10
  how
• 6:10
  they
• 6:10
  built
• 6:10
  a
• 6:10
  house
• 6:11
  in
• 6:11
  1950
• 6:12
  and
• 6:12
  how
• 6:12
  they
• 6:12
  build
• 6:12
  a
• 6:13
  house
• 6:13
  in
• 6:13
  2026
• 6:14
  is
• 6:14
  way
• 6:15
  different
• 6:15
  with
• 6:15
  building
• 6:15
  codes
• 6:16
  for
• 6:16
  sure.
• 6:17
  You
• 6:17
  have
• 6:17
  energy
• 6:17
  codes.
• 6:18
  You're
• 6:18
  not
• 6:18
  50s
• 6:19
  homes
• 6:19
  rarely
• 6:19
  had
• 6:19
  air
• 6:20
  conditioners
• 6:20
  in
• 6:20
  them,
• 6:20
  right?
• 6:21
  Yeah,
• 6:22
  they
• 6:22
  had
• 6:23
  baseboard
• 6:24
  heat,
• 6:24
  maybe
• 6:25
  had
• 6:26
  a
• 6:26
  furnace
• 6:26
  in
• 6:27
  there
• 6:27
  if
• 6:27
  they
• 6:27
  were
• 6:27
  lucky.
• 6:28
  But
• 6:28
  really
• 6:29
  they
• 6:29
  were
• 6:29
  simple
• 6:30
  and
• 6:31
  you
• 6:32
  had
• 6:32
  just
• 6:32
  inexpensive
• 6:33
  products
• 6:34
  going
• 6:34
  into
• 6:34
  it.
• 6:35
  And
• 6:35
  we
• 6:35
  didn't
• 6:36
  have
• 6:36
  the
• 6:37
  400
• 6:38
  pages
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  building
• 6:39
  permits
• 6:39
  that
• 6:39
  made
• 6:40
  a
• 6:40
  quote,
• 6:41
  healthier
• 6:41
  or
• 6:42
  safer
• 6:42
  home.
• 6:43
  So
• 6:44
  another
• 6:44
  topic,
• 6:45
  another
• 6:46
  topic.
• 6:46
  But
• 6:46
  you
• 6:47
  look
• 6:47
  at
• 6:48
  you
• 6:48
  can
• 6:48
  spend
• 6:49
  in
• 6:49
  an
• 6:49
  H
• 6:49
  VAC
• 6:50
  system
• 6:50
  almost
• 6:50
  what
• 6:51
  a.
• 6:51
  What
• 6:52
  an
• 6:52
  adjusted
• 6:53
  house
• 6:53
  price
• 6:53
  is
• 6:54
  for
• 6:54
  a
• 6:54
  1950s
• 6:55
  home
• 6:55
  now.
• 6:55
  Yeah.
• 6:56
  That
• 6:56
  all
• 6:56
  in
• 6:56
  a
• 6:57
  new
• 6:57
  house.
• 6:57
  Your
• 6:58
  example
• 6:58
  on
• 6:58
  a
• 6:58
  new
• 6:59
  water
• 6:59
  mainline
• 7:00
  for
• 7:00
  60k.
• 7:01
  Like
• 7:02
  yeah,
• 7:03
  that
• 7:03
  used
• 7:04
  to
• 7:04
  buy
• 7:04
  you
• 7:04
  three
• 7:05
  houses.
• 7:06
  And
• 7:06
  I
• 7:07
  get
• 7:07
  it
• 7:07
  right.
• 7:07
  It's
• 7:08
  adjusted.
• 7:08
  But
• 7:09
  something
• 7:09
  to
• 7:09
  consider.
• 7:09
  You
• 7:10
  mentioned
• 7:10
  that
• 7:10
  something
• 7:11
  that
• 7:11
  struck
• 7:11
  me
• 7:11
  and
• 7:12
  I'm
• 7:12
  just
• 7:12
  going
• 7:12
  to
• 7:12
  keep
• 7:12
  leaning
• 7:13
  on
• 7:13
  the
• 7:13
  super
• 7:13
  size
• 7:14
  thing
• 7:14
  because
• 7:15
  I
• 7:15
  got
• 7:15
  a
• 7:15
  bug
• 7:15
  in
• 7:16
  my
• 7:16
  side
• 7:16
  over
• 7:16
  that
• 7:16
  kind
• 7:16
  of
• 7:17
  stuff.
• 7:17
  Any
• 7:17
  more,
• 7:17
  any
• 7:18
  bigger
• 7:18
  I
• 7:18
  need.
• 7:19
  We're
• 7:19
  making
• 7:20
  less
• 7:20
  babies
• 7:20
  now,
• 7:21
  but
• 7:21
  we're
• 7:22
  buying
• 7:22
  more
• 7:22
  square
• 7:22
  feet.
• 7:23
  Well
• 7:23
  why,
• 7:24
  why
• 7:25
  do
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  need
• 7:25
  a
• 7:26
  four
• 7:26
  bedroom
• 7:26
  house
• 7:27
  if
• 7:27
  you're
• 7:28
  just
• 7:29
  a
• 7:29
  couple
• 7:29
  that
• 7:30
  unless
• 7:31
  you're
• 7:31
  planning
• 7:31
  and
• 7:32
  you
• 7:32
  know
• 7:32
  that
• 7:32
  you're
• 7:32
  going
• 7:32
  to
• 7:33
  be
• 7:33
  there
• 7:33
  for
• 7:33
  30
• 7:33
  years
• 7:34
  and
• 7:34
  make
• 7:34
  three
• 7:34
  babies.
• 7:35
  Cool,
• 7:35
  go
• 7:35
  at
• 7:35
  it.
• 7:36
  Make
• 7:36
  one
• 7:36
  an
• 7:36
  office.
• 7:37
  But
• 7:38
  you
• 7:38
  don't
• 7:38
  need
• 7:39
  that
• 7:39
  house
• 7:40
  just
• 7:41
  because
• 7:41
  your
• 7:41
  neighbors
• 7:41
  got
• 7:42
  that
• 7:42
  house.
• 7:42
  And
• 7:42
  I
• 7:43
  could
• 7:43
  think
• 7:43
  of
• 7:43
  a
• 7:43
  dozen
• 7:43
  friends
• 7:44
  right
• 7:44
  now.
• 7:45
  What
• 7:45
  do
• 7:45
  you
• 7:45
  need
• 7:45
  3,500
• 7:46
  square
• 7:46
  feet
• 7:47
  for?
• 7:47
  And
• 7:48
  I'll
• 7:48
  tell
• 7:48
  you,
• 7:48
  living
• 7:48
  here
• 7:48
  in
• 7:49
  Colombia,
• 7:49
  I
• 7:49
  live
• 7:49
  comfortably
• 7:50
  in
• 7:50
  around
• 7:52
  8,
• 7:52
  900,000
• 7:53
  square.
• 7:54
  It's
• 7:54
  fine
• 7:55
  couple
• 7:55
  of
• 7:56
  balconies.
• 7:56
  I
• 7:56
  spend
• 7:56
  most
• 7:57
  of
• 7:57
  my
• 7:57
  time
• 7:57
  working
• 7:57
  outside
• 7:58
  anyway
• 7:58
  on
• 7:58
  the
• 7:59
  balcony.
• 7:59
  I
• 7:59
  was
• 8:00
  thinking
• 8:00
  that
• 8:00
  yesterday.
• 8:00
  I
• 8:00
  don't
• 8:01
  even
• 8:01
  use
• 8:01
  my
• 8:01
  house
• 8:02
  hardly
• 8:02
  like.
• 8:03
  Exactly.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:04
  I
• 8:04
  think
• 8:04
  that's
• 8:04
  a
• 8:05
  really
• 8:05
  big
• 8:05
  important
• 8:05
  part
• 8:06
  because
• 8:06
  we
• 8:06
  see
• 8:07
  that
• 8:08
  super
• 8:08
  size
• 8:08
  mentality
• 8:09
  which
• 8:09
  has
• 8:09
  really
• 8:10
  got
• 8:10
  us
• 8:10
  on
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  wrong
• 8:10
  track.
• 8:11
  Now
• 8:11
  we're
• 8:12
  gonna
• 8:12
  have
• 8:12
  to
• 8:12
  go
• 8:12
  out
• 8:12
  to
• 8:12
  break
• 8:13
  in
• 8:13
  a
• 8:13
  minute.
• 8:13
  But
• 8:13
  one
• 8:13
  of
• 8:14
  the
• 8:14
  things
• 8:14
  too
• 8:14
  that's
• 8:14
  really
• 8:15
  got
• 8:15
  us
• 8:15
  going
• 8:15
  is
• 8:16
  in
• 8:17
  certain
• 8:17
  areas,
• 8:18
  whether
• 8:19
  it's
• 8:19
  a
• 8:19
  state
• 8:19
  or
• 8:20
  it's
• 8:20
  a
• 8:20
  city
• 8:20
  or
• 8:20
  a
• 8:21
  county,
• 8:21
  whatever
• 8:21
  municipality
• 8:22
  you
• 8:22
  have
• 8:23
  around
• 8:23
  there,
• 8:24
  they
• 8:24
  are
• 8:25
  artificially
• 8:27
  raising
• 8:27
  the
• 8:28
  prices
• 8:28
  of
• 8:28
  the
• 8:28
  raw
• 8:29
  land
• 8:29
  by
• 8:30
  how
• 8:30
  they're
• 8:30
  doing
• 8:31
  the
• 8:31
  governing
• 8:31
  of
• 8:32
  that.
• 8:33
  And
• 8:33
  we'll
• 8:33
  talk
• 8:33
  about
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  then
• 8:34
  when
• 8:34
  we
• 8:35
  get
• 8:35
  back.
• 8:35
  Because
• 8:36
  so
• 8:37
  many
• 8:37
  states
• 8:38
  have
• 8:38
  got
• 8:39
  it
• 8:39
  right.
• 8:39
  So
• 8:39
  many
• 8:40
  states
• 8:40
  have
• 8:40
  it
• 8:40
  Wrong.
• 8:41
  And
• 8:42
  what
• 8:42
  we're
• 8:42
  seeing
• 8:42
  is
• 8:42
  it's
• 8:43
  really
• 8:43
  changing
• 8:43
  the
• 8:44
  price
• 8:44
  of
• 8:44
  homes
• 8:45
  because
• 8:45
  what's
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  first
• 8:46
  thing
• 8:46
  you're
• 8:46
  getting
• 8:47
  that
• 8:47
  land
• 8:47
  price.
• 8:48
  Right.
• 8:49
  Great
• 8:49
  example.
• 8:50
  Finally,
• 8:50
  the
• 8:50
  city
• 8:50
  of
• 8:51
  Portland
• 8:51
  by
• 8:51
  me
• 8:52
  this
• 8:53
  last
• 8:53
  year,
• 8:54
  pushed
• 8:54
  off
• 8:54
  their
• 8:55
  development
• 8:55
  fees.
• 8:56
  So
• 8:57
  if
• 8:57
  you
• 8:57
  and
• 8:57
  I
• 8:57
  were
• 8:57
  gonna,
• 8:58
  let's
• 8:58
  say,
• 8:58
  Johnny,
• 8:59
  you
• 8:59
  and
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  were,
• 8:59
  as
• 8:59
  a
• 9:00
  business,
• 9:00
  we
• 9:00
  were
• 9:00
  gonna
• 9:00
  buy
• 9:01
  some
• 9:01
  old
• 9:02
  crack
• 9:02
  house
• 9:03
  that
• 9:03
  was
• 9:03
  half
• 9:03
  burned
• 9:03
  out.
• 9:04
  We're
• 9:04
  going
• 9:04
  to
• 9:04
  knock
• 9:05
  it
• 9:05
  down.
• 9:05
  It
• 9:05
  was
• 9:06
  done
• 9:06
  that.
• 9:07
  And
• 9:07
  we're
• 9:07
  going
• 9:07
  to
• 9:07
  build,
• 9:07
  we're
• 9:08
  going
• 9:08
  to
• 9:08
  put
• 9:08
  a
• 9:08
  new
• 9:09
  2100
• 9:09
  square
• 9:10
  foot
• 9:10
  house
• 9:10
  there.
• 9:10
  Let's
• 9:10
  say
• 9:10
  nothing
• 9:11
  crazy.
• 9:12
  You
• 9:12
  could
• 9:13
  have
• 9:14
  80
• 9:14
  to
• 9:14
  $90,000
• 9:16
  in
• 9:16
  development
• 9:16
  fees,
• 9:18
  the
• 9:18
  permit.
• 9:19
  That's
• 9:19
  insanity.
• 9:20
  And
• 9:21
  that's
• 9:21
  real
• 9:21
  insanity
• 9:22
  when
• 9:22
  it
• 9:22
  comes
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  that.
• 9:23
  Because
• 9:24
  for
• 9:24
  instance,
• 9:24
  here,
• 9:25
  a
• 9:25
  house
• 9:25
  built
• 9:25
  before
• 9:26
  1940
• 9:26
  in
• 9:27
  the
• 9:27
  city
• 9:27
  of
• 9:27
  Portland,
• 9:28
  you
• 9:28
  have
• 9:28
  to
• 9:28
  hand
• 9:28
  disassemble
• 9:29
  it
• 9:29
  so
• 9:29
  you
• 9:30
  can
• 9:30
  reuse
• 9:30
  it.
• 9:31
  You
• 9:31
  can't
• 9:31
  bring
• 9:31
  the
• 9:31
  excavator
• 9:32
  in.
• 9:33
  A
• 9:33
  team
• 9:33
  of
• 9:33
  people
• 9:34
  go
• 9:34
  in
• 9:34
  there
• 9:34
  with
• 9:34
  pry
• 9:34
  bars,
• 9:35
  hard
• 9:35
  hats
• 9:35
  and
• 9:36
  gloves
• 9:36
  and
• 9:37
  claw
• 9:37
  hammers
• 9:37
  and
• 9:38
  tear
• 9:38
  the
• 9:38
  thing
• 9:38
  down
• 9:39
  stud
• 9:39
  by
• 9:39
  stud.
• 9:40
  Yeah,
• 9:40
  I
• 9:40
  want
• 9:40
  to
• 9:40
  talk
• 9:41
  about
• 9:41
  this
• 9:41
  when
• 9:41
  we
• 9:41
  come
• 9:41
  back
• 9:42
  because
• 9:42
  I
• 9:42
  know
• 9:42
  we're
• 9:42
  short
• 9:42
  on
• 9:43
  time,
• 9:43
  but
• 9:43
  I've
• 9:43
  got
• 9:43
  so
• 9:44
  much
• 9:44
  experience
• 9:44
  with
• 9:45
  that
• 9:45
  and
• 9:46
  redoing
• 9:46
  1890s
• 9:47
  homes
• 9:48
  and
• 9:48
  how
• 9:48
  we
• 9:48
  did
• 9:48
  it
• 9:49
  and
• 9:49
  what
• 9:49
  I
• 9:49
  paid
• 9:49
  for
• 9:49
  permits.
• 9:50
  Ridiculous.
• 9:52
  Absolutely.
• 9:52
  Absolutely.
• 9:53
  So,
• 9:54
  guys,
• 9:54
  if
• 9:54
  you
• 9:54
  want
• 9:54
  to
• 9:54
  find
• 9:54
  out
• 9:54
  more
• 9:55
  about
• 9:55
  us,
• 9:55
  head
• 9:55
  over
• 9:55
  to
• 9:56
  aroundthehouse
• 9:57
  online
• 9:57
  dot
• 9:57
  com.
• 9:58
  If
• 9:58
  you're
• 9:58
  new
• 9:58
  to
• 9:58
  the
• 9:59
  show,
• 9:59
  we'd
• 9:59
  love
• 9:59
  to
• 9:59
  hear
• 9:59
  from
• 10:00
  you.
• 10:00
  Where
• 10:00
  are
• 10:00
  you
• 10:00
  in
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  country?
• 10:02
  What's
• 10:02
  going
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• 13:10
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  housing
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• 13:13
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• 13:13
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• 13:15
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• 13:15
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• 13:16
  areas
• 13:16
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• 13:16
  the
• 13:16
  country
• 13:16
  have
• 13:17
  bigger
• 13:17
  problems
• 13:18
  than
• 13:18
  others.
• 13:18
  And
• 13:19
  I'm
• 13:19
  in
• 13:19
  Oregon,
• 13:19
  which
• 13:20
  we
• 13:21
  have
• 13:21
  a
• 13:21
  huge
• 13:21
  mess
• 13:22
  here
• 13:22
  with
• 13:22
  that.
• 13:23
  We'll
• 13:23
  get
• 13:23
  to
• 13:23
  that
• 13:24
  in
• 13:24
  a
• 13:24
  little
• 13:24
  bit.
• 13:24
  But
• 13:25
  we
• 13:25
  were
• 13:25
  talking
• 13:25
  when
• 13:25
  we
• 13:25
  went
• 13:25
  out
• 13:26
  to
• 13:26
  break
• 13:26
  about,
• 13:27
  you
• 13:27
  know,
• 13:28
  what
• 13:28
  these
• 13:28
  permit
• 13:29
  fees
• 13:29
  cost
• 13:29
  and
• 13:30
  stuff.
• 13:30
  In
• 13:30
  the
• 13:30
  city
• 13:30
  of
• 13:31
  Portland,
• 13:31
  for
• 13:31
  instance,
• 13:31
  where
• 13:32
  I'm
• 13:32
  located,
• 13:33
  you
• 13:33
  have
• 13:33
  to
• 13:33
  pay
• 13:33
  a
• 13:34
  fee
• 13:34
  to
• 13:35
  the
• 13:35
  water
• 13:35
  department,
• 13:36
  to
• 13:36
  the
• 13:36
  urban
• 13:37
  forestry
• 13:38
  because
• 13:38
  they're
• 13:38
  going
• 13:38
  to
• 13:38
  tell
• 13:38
  you
• 13:38
  how
• 13:39
  many
• 13:39
  trees
• 13:39
  you
• 13:39
  have
• 13:39
  to
• 13:39
  plant.
• 13:40
  You
• 13:41
  could
• 13:41
  have
• 13:41
  a
• 13:41
  $20,000
• 13:43
  check
• 13:43
  you
• 13:43
  have
• 13:43
  to
• 13:44
  write
• 13:44
  to
• 13:44
  the
• 13:44
  transit
• 13:45
  department.
• 13:46
  Yeah.
• 13:46
  How
• 13:46
  does
• 13:47
  that
• 13:47
  get
• 13:47
  involved
• 13:47
  there?
• 13:48
  Yeah.
• 13:49
  I
• 13:49
  just
• 13:49
  can't
• 13:50
  believe
• 13:51
  you
• 13:51
  tell
• 13:51
  me
• 13:52
  these
• 13:52
  things.
• 13:52
  And
• 13:52
  it's
• 13:52
  been
• 13:53
  a.
• 13:53
  It's
• 13:53
  been
• 13:53
  a
• 13:53
  spell
• 13:54
  since
• 13:54
  I've
• 13:54
  been
• 13:54
  up
• 13:54
  there
• 13:54
  doing
• 13:55
  remodels,
• 13:55
  but
• 13:55
  I
• 13:56
  can't.
• 13:56
  The
• 13:57
  example
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  wanted
• 13:57
  to
• 13:58
  pull
• 13:58
  was
• 13:58
  that
• 13:59
  house
• 13:59
  from
• 13:59
  1890,
• 14:00
  built
• 14:00
  in
• 14:00
  1890.
• 14:01
  I
• 14:02
  pulled
• 14:02
  down
• 14:02
  the
• 14:03
  whole
• 14:03
  back
• 14:03
  half
• 14:03
  of
• 14:04
  that
• 14:04
  house
• 14:04
  with
• 14:04
  my
• 14:04
  Suburban.
• 14:05
  Yeah.
• 14:06
  There
• 14:06
  was
• 14:06
  no
• 14:06
  plucking
• 14:07
  it
• 14:07
  apart
• 14:07
  board
• 14:07
  by
• 14:07
  board.
• 14:08
  It
• 14:08
  was
• 14:08
  just
• 14:08
  knocked
• 14:09
  that
• 14:09
  thing
• 14:09
  down,
• 14:10
  take
• 14:10
  it
• 14:10
  down.
• 14:11
  Hand
• 14:12
  drawn
• 14:12
  permits
• 14:12
  that
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  delivered
• 14:13
  myself.
• 14:14
  I
• 14:14
  didn't
• 14:14
  need
• 14:14
  an
• 14:14
  architect.
• 14:15
  I
• 14:15
  didn't
• 14:15
  need
• 14:16
  permission
• 14:16
  from
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  Forest
• 14:17
  Service,
• 14:18
  for
• 14:18
  crying
• 14:18
  out
• 14:18
  loud.
• 14:19
  And
• 14:19
  I
• 14:20
  think
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  might
• 14:20
  have
• 14:21
  paid,
• 14:22
  I
• 14:22
  don't
• 14:22
  know,
• 14:23
  $1600
• 14:24
  for
• 14:24
  permits
• 14:24
  or
• 14:24
  something.
• 14:25
  You're
• 14:25
  talking
• 14:26
  about
• 14:26
  $90,000,
• 14:27
  $80,000
• 14:28
  in
• 14:28
  development
• 14:28
  fees.
• 14:29
  That's
• 14:29
  insane.
• 14:30
  And
• 14:31
  so
• 14:31
  it
• 14:31
  gets
• 14:31
  crazy.
• 14:32
  There's
• 14:32
  the
• 14:32
  stormwater
• 14:33
  fees,
• 14:33
  there's
• 14:33
  this,
• 14:34
  and
• 14:34
  that's
• 14:34
  the
• 14:34
  house.
• 14:35
  That's
• 14:35
  a
• 14:35
  place
• 14:35
  that
• 14:36
  already
• 14:36
  had
• 14:36
  a
• 14:36
  house
• 14:36
  on
• 14:36
  it.
• 14:37
  Yeah.
• 14:37
  So
• 14:38
  that
• 14:38
  house,
• 14:38
  where
• 14:38
  there
• 14:38
  was
• 14:38
  a
• 14:39
  house
• 14:39
  there,
• 14:39
  you're
• 14:39
  just
• 14:39
  hooking
• 14:40
  up
• 14:40
  to
• 14:40
  the
• 14:40
  old
• 14:40
  utilities.
• 14:41
  Yeah.
• 14:43
  And
• 14:43
  that's
• 14:44
  double
• 14:44
  taxation.
• 14:45
  Yeah.
• 14:47
  Or
• 14:47
  triple.
• 14:47
  Or
• 14:48
  triple,
• 14:48
  whatever
• 14:48
  it
• 14:48
  is.
• 14:49
  Now
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  good
• 14:49
  news
• 14:50
  is
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  city
• 14:50
  of
• 14:50
  Portland
• 14:51
  said,
• 14:51
  hey,
• 14:51
  no
• 14:51
  one's
• 14:51
  building
• 14:52
  houses
• 14:52
  here
• 14:52
  anymore.
• 14:53
  Maybe
• 14:53
  we
• 14:53
  should
• 14:53
  stop
• 14:54
  some
• 14:54
  of
• 14:54
  this.
• 14:55
  So
• 14:55
  there's
• 14:55
  a
• 14:55
  moratorium
• 14:56
  for
• 14:57
  many
• 14:57
  of
• 14:57
  these
• 14:58
  up
• 14:59
  until
• 14:59
  2027,
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  think
• 15:00
  so
• 15:00
  for
• 15:00
  another
• 15:01
  year
• 15:01
  or
• 15:01
  so.
• 15:02
  We've
• 15:02
  got
• 15:02
  that
• 15:03
  slowed
• 15:03
  down.
• 15:03
  But
• 15:04
  so
• 15:05
  many
• 15:05
  other
• 15:05
  cities
• 15:05
  have
• 15:05
  that
• 15:06
  now.
• 15:07
  Oregon,
• 15:08
  Washington
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  Tennessee
• 15:10
  have
• 15:10
  an
• 15:11
  even
• 15:11
  bigger
• 15:11
  problem.
• 15:12
  Man.
• 15:13
  Now
• 15:14
  this
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  a
• 15:14
  big
• 15:14
  one.
• 15:15
  We'll
• 15:15
  talk
• 15:15
  about
• 15:15
  some
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  the
• 15:15
  stuff
• 15:16
  you
• 15:16
  and
• 15:16
  I
• 15:16
  were
• 15:16
  talking
• 15:16
  about,
• 15:16
  Johnny,
• 15:17
  in
• 15:17
  a
• 15:17
  second.
• 15:17
  But
• 15:17
  here's
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  biggest
• 15:18
  problem.
• 15:19
  We
• 15:19
  have
• 15:19
  urban
• 15:20
  growth
• 15:21
  boundaries.
• 15:22
  What
• 15:22
  is
• 15:22
  that?
• 15:23
  That
• 15:23
  is
• 15:24
  in
• 15:24
  the
• 15:24
  city
• 15:25
  of
• 15:25
  Portland
• 15:25
  or
• 15:25
  in
• 15:26
  Oregon.
• 15:26
  Here
• 15:26
  we
• 15:27
  have
• 15:27
  the
• 15:28
  state
• 15:28
  and
• 15:29
  the
• 15:29
  Counties
• 15:29
  go
• 15:29
  together
• 15:30
  and
• 15:30
  they
• 15:30
  have
• 15:31
  to
• 15:31
  create
• 15:31
  a
• 15:31
  plan
• 15:32
  for
• 15:32
  growth.
• 15:33
  So
• 15:33
  the
• 15:33
  problem
• 15:34
  is,
• 15:34
  Johnny,
• 15:34
  you
• 15:35
  could
• 15:35
  go
• 15:35
  out
• 15:35
  there
• 15:35
  and
• 15:35
  go,
• 15:35
  man,
• 15:36
  I
• 15:36
  just
• 15:36
  found
• 15:37
  10
• 15:37
  acres
• 15:38
  in
• 15:38
  Hillsboro.
• 15:39
  I'm
• 15:39
  going
• 15:39
  to
• 15:40
  build
• 15:40
  a
• 15:40
  house.
• 15:40
  I'm
• 15:40
  going
• 15:40
  to
• 15:41
  build
• 15:41
  another
• 15:41
  house
• 15:41
  over
• 15:41
  here
• 15:42
  for
• 15:42
  this.
• 15:43
  Maybe
• 15:43
  I'm
• 15:43
  going
• 15:43
  to
• 15:43
  put
• 15:44
  four
• 15:44
  or
• 15:44
  five
• 15:44
  houses
• 15:44
  on
• 15:45
  it.
• 15:45
  You
• 15:46
  buy
• 15:46
  the
• 15:46
  property,
• 15:46
  then
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  city
• 15:47
  of
• 15:47
  the
• 15:47
  county
• 15:48
  goes.
• 15:48
  You're
• 15:48
  outside
• 15:48
  of
• 15:49
  the
• 15:49
  urban
• 15:49
  growth
• 15:49
  boundary.
• 15:49
  You
• 15:50
  could
• 15:50
  put
• 15:50
  one
• 15:51
  house
• 15:51
  on
• 15:51
  that.
• 15:52
  So
• 15:52
  your
• 15:53
  hands
• 15:53
  are
• 15:53
  tied.
• 15:54
  So
• 15:54
  shame
• 15:55
  on
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  if
• 15:55
  you
• 15:55
  didn't
• 15:55
  do
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  research.
• 15:56
  But,
• 15:56
  yeah,
• 15:56
  it
• 15:57
  gets
• 15:57
  ridiculous.
• 15:58
  It
• 15:58
  does.
• 15:58
  But
• 15:59
  here's
• 15:59
  the
• 15:59
  problem.
• 15:59
  Now,
• 16:00
  in
• 16:00
  many
• 16:01
  states,
• 16:01
  you'll
• 16:01
  go
• 16:01
  around
• 16:01
  and
• 16:02
  go,
• 16:02
  wow,
• 16:02
  there's
• 16:02
  a
• 16:02
  very
• 16:03
  cool
• 16:04
  $110,000
• 16:05
  lot
• 16:06
  to
• 16:06
  put
• 16:06
  a
• 16:06
  house
• 16:06
  on.
• 16:07
  Now
• 16:07
  you're
• 16:08
  like,
• 16:08
  wow,
• 16:08
  that's
• 16:09
  a
• 16:09
  $300,000
• 16:10
  lot
• 16:11
  to
• 16:11
  put
• 16:11
  a
• 16:12
  house
• 16:12
  on.
• 16:13
  Because
• 16:13
  of
• 16:13
  supply
• 16:14
  and
• 16:14
  demand.
• 16:14
  And
• 16:15
  they've
• 16:15
  always
• 16:15
  controlled
• 16:16
  the
• 16:16
  supply
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  demand,
• 16:17
  which
• 16:18
  stops
• 16:19
  urban
• 16:19
  sprawl,
• 16:20
  supposedly,
• 16:21
  however
• 16:21
  common
• 16:22
  it
• 16:22
  makes
• 16:23
  things
• 16:23
  on
• 16:24
  the
• 16:24
  front
• 16:24
  end.
• 16:25
  $200,000
• 16:26
  overpriced.
• 16:27
  Yeah.
• 16:28
  All
• 16:28
  that
• 16:29
  money
• 16:29
  is
• 16:29
  going
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  a
• 16:30
  good
• 16:30
  cause.
• 16:32
  So
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  get
• 16:33
  it.
• 16:33
  But
• 16:33
  they've
• 16:34
  got
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  be
• 16:34
  able
• 16:34
  to
• 16:35
  figure
• 16:35
  that
• 16:35
  out.
• 16:35
  And
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  think
• 16:37
  we've
• 16:37
  seen.
• 16:37
  We're
• 16:38
  not.
• 16:38
  We
• 16:38
  don't
• 16:38
  get
• 16:38
  into
• 16:38
  politics,
• 16:39
  but
• 16:39
  we've
• 16:39
  seen
• 16:39
  President
• 16:40
  Trump
• 16:40
  say,
• 16:40
  hey,
• 16:41
  on
• 16:41
  these
• 16:41
  states,
• 16:42
  he's
• 16:43
  going
• 16:43
  to
• 16:43
  go
• 16:43
  in
• 16:43
  and
• 16:44
  build
• 16:44
  some
• 16:44
  communities
• 16:45
  on
• 16:45
  federal
• 16:46
  lands.
• 16:46
  So
• 16:46
  they
• 16:46
  don't
• 16:47
  have
• 16:47
  those
• 16:47
  controls.
• 16:48
  Yeah,
• 16:49
  that's
• 16:49
  right.
• 16:50
  Interesting
• 16:50
  to
• 16:50
  see
• 16:51
  how
• 16:51
  that
• 16:51
  works.
• 16:51
  I'm
• 16:52
  curious,
• 16:53
  but
• 16:53
  like,
• 16:53
  states
• 16:54
  like
• 16:54
  Oregon,
• 16:54
  I
• 16:54
  think
• 16:54
  we've
• 16:54
  got
• 16:55
  like
• 16:55
  60%
• 16:56
  of
• 16:56
  the
• 16:56
  land
• 16:57
  is
• 16:57
  state
• 16:58
  owned.
• 16:58
  Oh,
• 16:59
  state,
• 16:59
  yeah.
• 17:00
  So
• 17:00
  it's
• 17:00
  state
• 17:01
  or
• 17:01
  federal.
• 17:01
  So
• 17:02
  most
• 17:02
  of
• 17:02
  it's.
• 17:02
  It's
• 17:03
  for
• 17:03
  service
• 17:04
  or
• 17:04
  whatever
• 17:04
  land.
• 17:04
  And
• 17:05
  so
• 17:05
  that
• 17:06
  also
• 17:06
  helps
• 17:06
  a
• 17:06
  lot
• 17:06
  of.
• 17:07
  It
• 17:07
  hurts
• 17:07
  a
• 17:07
  lot
• 17:07
  of
• 17:07
  these
• 17:07
  small
• 17:07
  communities
• 17:08
  because
• 17:08
  they
• 17:08
  don't
• 17:08
  have
• 17:08
  any
• 17:09
  tax
• 17:09
  dollars
• 17:09
  coming
• 17:10
  out
• 17:10
  of
• 17:10
  that.
• 17:10
  That's
• 17:11
  tax
• 17:11
  exempt.
• 17:12
  Yeah,
• 17:12
  for
• 17:12
  sure.
• 17:13
  So
• 17:14
  these
• 17:14
  little
• 17:14
  towns
• 17:15
  that
• 17:15
  have
• 17:15
  a
• 17:15
  sawmill
• 17:16
  in
• 17:16
  them,
• 17:16
  the
• 17:16
  sawmill
• 17:17
  closes.
• 17:18
  There's
• 17:18
  no
• 17:18
  other
• 17:18
  room
• 17:19
  for
• 17:19
  industry
• 17:19
  there
• 17:19
  because
• 17:19
  it's
• 17:20
  all
• 17:20
  surrounded
• 17:20
  by
• 17:20
  Forest
• 17:21
  service
• 17:21
  land.
• 17:21
  So
• 17:21
  they
• 17:21
  can't
• 17:22
  go
• 17:22
  build
• 17:22
  a
• 17:22
  building
• 17:23
  there.
• 17:23
  They
• 17:23
  can't
• 17:23
  put
• 17:24
  a
• 17:24
  tech
• 17:25
  center
• 17:25
  there.
• 17:25
  They
• 17:25
  can't
• 17:26
  do
• 17:26
  anything
• 17:26
  else.
• 17:26
  So
• 17:26
  it
• 17:26
  gets
• 17:27
  interesting
• 17:27
  in
• 17:27
  those
• 17:27
  areas
• 17:28
  of
• 17:28
  what
• 17:28
  that
• 17:28
  does.
• 17:30
  But
• 17:30
  that's
• 17:31
  part
• 17:31
  of
• 17:31
  the
• 17:31
  problem
• 17:32
  with
• 17:32
  this,
• 17:32
  is
• 17:32
  that
• 17:33
  we've
• 17:33
  got
• 17:33
  to
• 17:33
  come
• 17:33
  up
• 17:33
  with
• 17:33
  some
• 17:34
  innovative
• 17:34
  solutions.
• 17:35
  There's
• 17:35
  some
• 17:35
  great
• 17:35
  ways
• 17:36
  to
• 17:36
  build
• 17:36
  homes
• 17:36
  out
• 17:36
  there,
• 17:37
  but
• 17:38
  many
• 17:38
  times
• 17:38
  it's
• 17:39
  our
• 17:39
  zoning
• 17:40
  and
• 17:40
  the
• 17:40
  building
• 17:41
  codes
• 17:41
  themselves
• 17:41
  that
• 17:42
  are
• 17:42
  getting
• 17:42
  in
• 17:42
  the
• 17:42
  way
• 17:42
  of
• 17:43
  that.
• 17:43
  Do
• 17:44
  you
• 17:44
  think?
• 17:44
  Yeah,
• 17:45
  like
• 17:45
  I
• 17:46
  said,
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  just.
• 17:46
  I
• 17:46
  can't
• 17:47
  believe
• 17:47
  some
• 17:47
  of
• 17:47
  the
• 17:47
  stuff
• 17:47
  you're
• 17:48
  telling
• 17:48
  me
• 17:48
  now.
• 17:48
  I'm
• 17:49
  just.
• 17:49
  Wow.
• 17:50
  And
• 17:51
  these
• 17:51
  days
• 17:51
  too,
• 17:52
  there's
• 17:52
  so
• 17:53
  many
• 17:53
  great
• 17:53
  options.
• 17:54
  Manufactured
• 17:55
  housing,
• 17:56
  where
• 17:56
  it's
• 17:57
  built.
• 17:57
  Factory
• 17:57
  built
• 17:58
  housing.
• 17:59
  Yeah.
• 18:00
  Those
• 18:00
  homes
• 18:00
  are
• 18:00
  being
• 18:01
  built
• 18:01
  way
• 18:01
  better
• 18:02
  than
• 18:02
  the
• 18:02
  major
• 18:02
  national
• 18:03
  spec
• 18:03
  home
• 18:03
  builders
• 18:04
  you're
• 18:04
  seeing
• 18:04
  out
• 18:04
  there.
• 18:05
  For
• 18:05
  sure.
• 18:07
  There's
• 18:08
  so
• 18:09
  many
• 18:09
  options
• 18:10
  for
• 18:10
  inexpensive
• 18:11
  home
• 18:11
  building
• 18:11
  now.
• 18:12
  It's
• 18:12
  incredible.
• 18:13
  Take
• 18:13
  a
• 18:13
  dive
• 18:14
  that
• 18:14
  in
• 18:14
  YouTube
• 18:15
  for
• 18:15
  a
• 18:16
  day.
• 18:17
  Yeah,
• 18:17
  yeah.
• 18:18
  Just.
• 18:18
  It's
• 18:19
  mind
• 18:19
  blowing.
• 18:20
  The
• 18:20
  different
• 18:20
  options,
• 18:21
  the
• 18:21
  different
• 18:21
  systems,
• 18:22
  techniques,
• 18:23
  etc.
• 18:24
  A
• 18:24
  lot
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  them.
• 18:25
  A
• 18:25
  lot
• 18:25
  of
• 18:26
  them
• 18:26
  very
• 18:26
  green.
• 18:27
  Right.
• 18:27
  Just
• 18:28
  isn't
• 18:28
  always
• 18:29
  better,
• 18:29
  by
• 18:29
  the
• 18:29
  way.
• 18:30
  No,
• 18:30
  I'm
• 18:30
  not
• 18:30
  saying
• 18:31
  that.
• 18:31
  I'm
• 18:31
  just
• 18:31
  saying
• 18:32
  reusing
• 18:32
  banana
• 18:33
  peels
• 18:33
  and
• 18:33
  coconut
• 18:34
  husks
• 18:35
  for
• 18:35
  siding.
• 18:36
  It's
• 18:37
  not
• 18:37
  a
• 18:37
  bad
• 18:37
  idea
• 18:38
  if
• 18:38
  you.
• 18:39
  Can
• 18:39
  make
• 18:39
  it
• 18:39
  work.
• 18:39
  Now
• 18:39
  here's
• 18:40
  my.
• 18:40
  Okay,
• 18:41
  we're
• 18:41
  going
• 18:41
  to
• 18:41
  jump
• 18:42
  off
• 18:42
  onto
• 18:42
  a
• 18:42
  little
• 18:42
  pet
• 18:43
  peeve
• 18:43
  of
• 18:43
  mine
• 18:43
  here
• 18:44
  with
• 18:44
  this.
• 18:45
  But
• 18:46
  again,
• 18:46
  there's
• 18:47
  multiple
• 18:47
  pet
• 18:47
  peeves
• 18:47
  here.
• 18:48
  But
• 18:48
  some
• 18:48
  of
• 18:48
  these
• 18:48
  green
• 18:49
  products
• 18:49
  out
• 18:49
  there
• 18:50
  are
• 18:52
  dumb.
• 18:52
  Green,
• 18:53
  just
• 18:54
  dumb.
• 18:54
  Don't
• 18:55
  get
• 18:55
  me
• 18:55
  wrong,
• 18:55
  there's
• 18:55
  plenty
• 18:56
  of.
• 18:56
  I
• 18:56
  won't
• 18:57
  say
• 18:57
  any
• 18:57
  names.
• 18:57
  No,
• 18:58
  but.
• 18:58
  And
• 18:58
  my
• 18:58
  biggest
• 18:59
  pet
• 18:59
  peeve
• 18:59
  of
• 18:59
  them
• 18:59
  all
• 18:59
  is
• 19:00
  this
• 19:01
  quote
• 19:01
  unquote
• 19:02
  3D
• 19:03
  printed
• 19:03
  house
• 19:04
  out
• 19:05
  of
• 19:05
  concrete.
• 19:06
  Right?
• 19:06
  Dude,
• 19:07
  that
• 19:07
  is
• 19:07
  a
• 19:07
  concrete
• 19:08
  pumper
• 19:09
  and
• 19:09
  a
• 19:10
  nozzle.
• 19:11
  Yeah.
• 19:11
  That
• 19:11
  is
• 19:11
  coming
• 19:12
  out.
• 19:12
  That
• 19:12
  is
• 19:13
  moving
• 19:13
  the
• 19:13
  arm
• 19:13
  around
• 19:14
  and
• 19:15
  like
• 19:15
  you're
• 19:15
  trying
• 19:15
  to
• 19:16
  use
• 19:16
  cake
• 19:16
  frosting,
• 19:17
  you're
• 19:18
  gonna
• 19:18
  stack
• 19:19
  a
• 19:19
  line
• 19:20
  on
• 19:20
  top
• 19:20
  of
• 19:20
  another
• 19:20
  line
• 19:21
  on
• 19:21
  top
• 19:21
  of
• 19:22
  another
• 19:22
  line
• 19:23
  and
• 19:23
  expect
• 19:24
  that
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  hold
• 19:25
  up,
• 19:25
  bro.
• 19:26
  Yeah,
• 19:26
  that's.
• 19:27
  I
• 19:27
  don't.
• 19:27
  I'm
• 19:27
  not
• 19:28
  a
• 19:28
  fan
• 19:28
  of
• 19:28
  that
• 19:29
  particular
• 19:30
  model.
• 19:30
  To
• 19:31
  me,
• 19:31
  yeah.
• 19:34
  As
• 19:34
  you
• 19:34
  were
• 19:34
  about
• 19:34
  to
• 19:35
  mention,
• 19:35
  your
• 19:35
  biggest
• 19:35
  pet
• 19:36
  peeve.
• 19:36
  And
• 19:37
  for
• 19:37
  me,
• 19:37
  whether
• 19:38
  it's
• 19:38
  organic
• 19:38
  products
• 19:39
  or
• 19:39
  green
• 19:39
  housing,
• 19:40
  for
• 19:41
  me,
• 19:41
  my
• 19:41
  biggest
• 19:41
  pet
• 19:41
  peeve
• 19:42
  is
• 19:42
  the
• 19:42
  lie.
• 19:43
  Don't
• 19:43
  sell
• 19:43
  me
• 19:43
  a
• 19:43
  goat
• 19:44
  and
• 19:44
  tell
• 19:44
  me
• 19:44
  it's
• 19:44
  a
• 19:44
  horse,
• 19:45
  dude,
• 19:45
  I
• 19:45
  don't
• 19:45
  like
• 19:46
  that.
• 19:46
  Do
• 19:46
  you
• 19:47
  remember
• 19:47
  those
• 19:47
  cabinets
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  were
• 19:48
  coming
• 19:49
  out
• 19:50
  right
• 19:50
  before
• 19:50
  you
• 19:51
  left
• 19:51
  there?
• 19:52
  There
• 19:52
  was
• 19:52
  a
• 19:52
  company
• 19:52
  down
• 19:53
  here
• 19:53
  in
• 19:53
  Portland
• 19:53
  that
• 19:53
  was
• 19:53
  building
• 19:54
  stuff
• 19:54
  out
• 19:54
  of.
• 19:54
  They
• 19:54
  were
• 19:54
  using
• 19:55
  like
• 19:55
  wheat
• 19:56
  and
• 19:56
  corn
• 19:57
  husk
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  build
• 19:58
  particle
• 19:59
  board.
• 19:59
  And
• 20:00
  it
• 20:00
  was
• 20:00
  green.
• 20:01
  It
• 20:01
  was
• 20:01
  sustainable
• 20:01
  for
• 20:02
  cabinetry.
• 20:04
  That
• 20:04
  stuff
• 20:04
  was
• 20:05
  like
• 20:05
  building
• 20:05
  cabinet
• 20:06
  boxes
• 20:06
  out
• 20:06
  of
• 20:06
  rice
• 20:07
  cakes.
• 20:07
  If
• 20:08
  you
• 20:08
  looked
• 20:09
  at
• 20:09
  it
• 20:09
  wrong,
• 20:09
  you.
• 20:09
  Broke
• 20:10
  the
• 20:10
  corner,
• 20:10
  crumbled.
• 20:11
  Yeah.
• 20:12
  And
• 20:12
  I
• 20:13
  rescued
• 20:14
  two
• 20:14
  projects
• 20:15
  that
• 20:15
  were
• 20:15
  up
• 20:16
  in.
• 20:17
  That
• 20:17
  were
• 20:18
  up,
• 20:18
  up
• 20:18
  in
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  mountains
• 20:19
  up
• 20:20
  by
• 20:20
  a
• 20:20
  golf
• 20:20
  course
• 20:20
  outside
• 20:21
  of
• 20:21
  Seattle.
• 20:21
  Up
• 20:21
  there.
• 20:21
  We'll
• 20:22
  just
• 20:22
  leave
• 20:22
  it
• 20:22
  at
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  because
• 20:22
  I
• 20:22
  don't
• 20:23
  want
• 20:23
  to
• 20:23
  get
• 20:23
  too
• 20:23
  in.
• 20:23
  In
• 20:24
  the
• 20:24
  weeds
• 20:24
  on
• 20:24
  that.
• 20:24
  But
• 20:25
  green
• 20:25
  cabinets.
• 20:27
  They
• 20:27
  ordered
• 20:27
  the
• 20:27
  cabinets,
• 20:28
  they
• 20:28
  got
• 20:28
  them
• 20:28
  installed.
• 20:29
  They
• 20:29
  wouldn't
• 20:30
  even
• 20:30
  hold
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  doors
• 20:31
  on
• 20:31
  the
• 20:32
  cabinets
• 20:32
  where
• 20:32
  they
• 20:32
  were
• 20:32
  pulling
• 20:33
  out
• 20:33
  of
• 20:33
  the
• 20:33
  hinges,
• 20:33
  sides
• 20:34
  of
• 20:34
  the
• 20:34
  boxes.
• 20:35
  Builder
• 20:35
  called
• 20:35
  me
• 20:35
  up
• 20:35
  and
• 20:35
  said,
• 20:36
  hey,
• 20:36
  man,
• 20:36
  how
• 20:36
  fast
• 20:37
  can
• 20:37
  you
• 20:37
  get
• 20:37
  cabinets?
• 20:38
  I
• 20:38
  need
• 20:38
  to
• 20:38
  throw
• 20:38
  these
• 20:39
  away.
• 20:39
  How
• 20:39
  green
• 20:40
  is
• 20:40
  it
• 20:40
  when
• 20:40
  it's
• 20:40
  going
• 20:40
  to
• 20:41
  last
• 20:41
  in
• 20:41
  a
• 20:41
  house
• 20:41
  for
• 20:41
  five
• 20:42
  years
• 20:42
  and
• 20:42
  you
• 20:42
  have
• 20:43
  to
• 20:43
  throw
• 20:43
  in
• 20:43
  the
• 20:43
  dumpster?
• 20:44
  Not
• 20:44
  green.
• 20:45
  Yeah,
• 20:45
  there's
• 20:46
  a
• 20:46
  full
• 20:46
  deep
• 20:46
  dive
• 20:47
  on
• 20:47
  all
• 20:47
  that
• 20:47
  stuff.
• 20:48
  So,
• 20:48
  yeah,
• 20:48
  we're
• 20:48
  using
• 20:49
  coconut
• 20:50
  husks
• 20:50
  and
• 20:50
  banana
• 20:50
  peels,
• 20:51
  but,
• 20:51
  you
• 20:52
  know,
• 20:52
  we're
• 20:52
  dumping
• 20:53
  gallons
• 20:53
  of
• 20:53
  toxic
• 20:54
  resin
• 20:54
  into
• 20:54
  them
• 20:55
  to
• 20:55
  make
• 20:55
  them
• 20:55
  stay
• 20:55
  together,
• 20:56
  you
• 20:56
  know,
• 20:57
  super
• 20:57
  green,
• 20:58
  dude.
• 20:58
  Way
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  go.
• 20:59
  Way
• 20:59
  to
• 20:59
  go.
• 20:59
  Let's
• 21:00
  throw
• 21:00
  some
• 21:00
  more
• 21:00
  toxins
• 21:01
  on
• 21:01
  top
• 21:01
  of
• 21:01
  it.
• 21:02
  Don't
• 21:02
  buy
• 21:02
  the
• 21:02
  hype.
• 21:02
  That's
• 21:03
  all
• 21:03
  I
• 21:03
  got
• 21:03
  to
• 21:03
  say
• 21:03
  in
• 21:03
  the
• 21:04
  green
• 21:04
  area.
• 21:04
  Don't
• 21:04
  buy
• 21:05
  the
• 21:05
  hype.
• 21:05
  Do
• 21:05
  your
• 21:05
  research.
• 21:06
  Not
• 21:06
  a
• 21:06
  fan.
• 21:06
  Not
• 21:07
  a
• 21:07
  fan.
• 21:07
  Hey,
• 21:07
  Johnny,
• 21:07
  we
• 21:07
  got
• 21:08
  to
• 21:08
  go
• 21:08
  out
• 21:08
  to
• 21:08
  break.
• 21:08
  When
• 21:08
  we
• 21:08
  come
• 21:09
  back,
• 21:09
  we're
• 21:09
  going
• 21:09
  to
• 21:10
  talk
• 21:10
  more
• 21:10
  about
• 21:10
  this.
• 21:10
  I
• 21:11
  got
• 21:11
  another
• 21:11
  one
• 21:11
  here
• 21:11
  that
• 21:11
  we
• 21:12
  should
• 21:12
  talk
• 21:12
  about.
• 21:12
  That's.
• 21:13
  It's
• 21:13
  a
• 21:13
  big
• 21:13
  part
• 21:13
  of
• 21:13
  it,
• 21:13
  I
• 21:14
  think
• 21:14
  that
• 21:14
  we
• 21:14
  need
• 21:14
  to
• 21:14
  figure
• 21:15
  out
• 21:15
  too.
• 21:15
  And
• 21:15
  we'll
• 21:16
  do
• 21:16
  that
• 21:16
  just
• 21:16
  as
• 21:16
  soon
• 21:16
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• 21:18
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  you
• 21:18
  check
• 21:18
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• 21:18
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• 21:18
  on
• 21:19
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• 21:19
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• 21:19
  around
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• 21:20
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• 21:21
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• 21:22
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• 21:22
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• 21:22
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• 21:22
  Don't
• 21:23
  change
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
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• 23:34
  Welcome
• 23:34
  back
• 23:34
  to
• 23:34
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• 23:35
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  the
• 23:35
  House
• 23:35
  show,
• 23:36
  your
• 23:36
  trusted
• 23:37
  source
• 23:37
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• 23:37
  everything
• 23:38
  home
• 23:38
  improvement.
• 23:38
  I'm
• 23:39
  Eric
• 23:39
  G.
• 23:40
  John
• 23:40
  Dudley.
• 23:41
  Man,
• 23:41
  this
• 23:41
  is
• 23:41
  a
• 23:41
  great
• 23:41
  rant
• 23:42
  for
• 23:42
  you
• 23:42
  and
• 23:42
  I,
• 23:42
  brother.
• 23:44
  It's
• 23:45
  a
• 23:45
  little
• 23:45
  dangerous,
• 23:45
  but
• 23:46
  it's
• 23:46
  fun.
• 23:47
  And
• 23:47
  the
• 23:48
  thing
• 23:48
  is
• 23:48
  here
• 23:48
  is
• 23:48
  it's
• 23:49
  great
• 23:49
  example
• 23:50
  again,
• 23:50
  here
• 23:51
  in
• 23:51
  Portland.
• 23:51
  I'm
• 23:51
  just
• 23:52
  going
• 23:52
  to
• 23:52
  say
• 23:52
  my
• 23:53
  city.
• 23:53
  I
• 23:54
  don't
• 23:54
  live
• 23:54
  in
• 23:54
  the
• 23:54
  city
• 23:54
  of
• 23:55
  Portland
• 23:55
  for
• 23:55
  obvious
• 23:55
  reasons.
• 23:56
  I
• 23:56
  live
• 23:56
  outside
• 23:56
  of
• 23:56
  it.
• 23:57
  But
• 23:58
  one
• 23:58
  of
• 23:58
  the
• 23:59
  problems
• 23:59
  I
• 23:59
  had
• 23:59
  there
• 23:59
  when
• 24:00
  we
• 24:00
  were
• 24:00
  pulling
• 24:00
  building
• 24:01
  permits
• 24:01
  and
• 24:01
  doing
• 24:02
  stuff
• 24:02
  is
• 24:03
  back
• 24:03
  when
• 24:04
  I
• 24:04
  was
• 24:04
  really
• 24:04
  working
• 24:04
  on
• 24:05
  this,
• 24:05
  in
• 24:05
  2017,
• 24:06
  2018,
• 24:07
  2019,
• 24:08
  if
• 24:08
  you
• 24:08
  went
• 24:09
  to
• 24:09
  get
• 24:09
  a
• 24:09
  kitchen
• 24:09
  model
• 24:10
  permit
• 24:11
  because
• 24:11
  you
• 24:12
  had
• 24:12
  to
• 24:12
  put
• 24:12
  in
• 24:12
  four
• 24:13
  new
• 24:13
  circuits
• 24:13
  and
• 24:14
  whatever
• 24:14
  H
• 24:14
  vac
• 24:15
  stuff
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  needed
• 24:15
  to
• 24:15
  do
• 24:16
  this
• 24:16
  kitchen,
• 24:17
  if
• 24:17
  you
• 24:17
  look
• 24:17
  at
• 24:17
  the
• 24:18
  city's
• 24:18
  records,
• 24:18
  you
• 24:19
  would
• 24:19
  go,
• 24:19
  why
• 24:19
  is
• 24:19
  every
• 24:20
  kitchen
• 24:20
  remodel
• 24:21
  permit
• 24:21
  for
• 24:21
  $24,990?
• 24:25
  Because
• 24:25
  if
• 24:25
  you
• 24:25
  spent
• 24:26
  back
• 24:26
  then
• 24:27
  over
• 24:27
  $25,000
• 24:29
  for
• 24:29
  the
• 24:30
  budget
• 24:30
  of
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  project,
• 24:32
  then
• 24:32
  you
• 24:32
  brought
• 24:32
  in
• 24:33
  urban
• 24:33
  forestry
• 24:34
  and
• 24:34
  they
• 24:34
  came
• 24:34
  over
• 24:34
  to
• 24:34
  your
• 24:35
  house
• 24:35
  before
• 24:35
  you
• 24:36
  had
• 24:36
  to
• 24:36
  sign
• 24:36
  off
• 24:37
  on
• 24:37
  the
• 24:37
  final
• 24:38
  and
• 24:38
  would
• 24:38
  tell
• 24:39
  you
• 24:39
  how
• 24:39
  many
• 24:39
  additional
• 24:40
  Trees
• 24:40
  you
• 24:41
  had
• 24:41
  to
• 24:41
  plant
• 24:41
  in
• 24:41
  your
• 24:41
  front
• 24:42
  yard
• 24:42
  as
• 24:43
  part
• 24:43
  of
• 24:43
  that.
• 24:43
  To
• 24:44
  remodel
• 24:44
  my
• 24:44
  kitchen.
• 24:45
  To
• 24:45
  remodel
• 24:46
  your
• 24:46
  kitchen.
• 24:46
  What
• 24:47
  a
• 24:47
  sham.
• 24:49
  Yeah.
• 24:50
  I
• 24:50
  just
• 24:50
  got
• 24:51
  to
• 24:51
  say
• 24:51
  it
• 24:51
  out
• 24:51
  loud.
• 24:51
  Like,
• 24:52
  all
• 24:52
  of
• 24:53
  a
• 24:53
  sudden,
• 24:53
  we're
• 24:53
  having
• 24:53
  to
• 24:53
  pay
• 24:54
  for
• 24:55
  a
• 24:56
  architect
• 24:56
  to
• 24:57
  come
• 24:57
  out
• 24:57
  and
• 24:57
  draw
• 24:57
  out
• 24:58
  the
• 24:58
  entire
• 24:58
  footprint
• 24:59
  of
• 24:59
  the
• 24:59
  house
• 24:59
  so
• 25:00
  they
• 25:00
  could
• 25:00
  tell
• 25:00
  us
• 25:00
  where
• 25:00
  the
• 25:01
  trees
• 25:01
  go
• 25:01
  in.
• 25:01
  So
• 25:02
  it's.
• 25:02
  Not
• 25:02
  only
• 25:02
  did
• 25:02
  you
• 25:02
  have
• 25:02
  to
• 25:03
  do
• 25:03
  that
• 25:03
  and
• 25:04
  the
• 25:04
  trees
• 25:04
  were
• 25:04
  a
• 25:05
  certain
• 25:05
  size,
• 25:05
  they
• 25:05
  were
• 25:05
  seven,
• 25:06
  800
• 25:06
  bucks
• 25:06
  a
• 25:07
  tree.
• 25:07
  Then
• 25:08
  you
• 25:08
  had
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  pay
• 25:08
  someone
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  draw
• 25:09
  out
• 25:09
  the
• 25:09
  whole
• 25:09
  footprint
• 25:10
  and
• 25:10
  where
• 25:10
  the
• 25:10
  existing
• 25:11
  trees
• 25:11
  are
• 25:11
  so
• 25:11
  then
• 25:12
  they
• 25:12
  could
• 25:12
  put
• 25:12
  it
• 25:12
  on
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  plans
• 25:13
  and
• 25:13
  tell
• 25:13
  you
• 25:13
  where
• 25:13
  to
• 25:14
  put
• 25:14
  them.
• 25:14
  So
• 25:14
  there
• 25:15
  goes
• 25:15
  ten
• 25:15
  grand
• 25:15
  out
• 25:15
  of
• 25:16
  your
• 25:16
  budget.
• 25:16
  When
• 25:16
  did
• 25:16
  this
• 25:17
  become
• 25:17
  a
• 25:17
  thing?
• 25:17
  And
• 25:18
  how,
• 25:19
  like
• 25:20
  I.
• 25:21
  You're
• 25:21
  talking
• 25:21
  about
• 25:22
  the
• 25:22
  interior
• 25:22
  of
• 25:23
  the
• 25:23
  house
• 25:24
  and
• 25:24
  I
• 25:24
  gotta.
• 25:24
  And
• 25:25
  I
• 25:25
  have
• 25:25
  to
• 25:25
  plant
• 25:25
  trees.
• 25:28
  Literally.
• 25:28
  I
• 25:28
  can't.
• 25:29
  I'm
• 25:29
  dumbfounded.
• 25:30
  Again,
• 25:31
  out
• 25:31
  of
• 25:31
  the
• 25:31
  game
• 25:32
  for
• 25:32
  a
• 25:32
  spell.
• 25:32
  But
• 25:34
  some
• 25:34
  of
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  things
• 25:34
  you
• 25:34
  tell
• 25:35
  me,
• 25:35
  I
• 25:35
  just
• 25:35
  cannot,
• 25:36
  absolutely
• 25:37
  cannot
• 25:38
  believe,
• 25:39
  to
• 25:39
  be
• 25:39
  frank,
• 25:40
  that
• 25:40
  they're
• 25:40
  getting
• 25:40
  away
• 25:41
  with
• 25:41
  it.
• 25:42
  People
• 25:42
  are
• 25:42
  allowing
• 25:43
  it,
• 25:43
  and
• 25:43
  that's
• 25:43
  the
• 25:43
  problem.
• 25:44
  And
• 25:44
  great
• 25:44
  example
• 25:45
  here
• 25:45
  in.
• 25:45
  In.
• 25:46
  In
• 25:46
  the
• 25:46
  Seattle
• 25:46
  area,
• 25:47
  city
• 25:48
  of
• 25:48
  Seattle,
• 25:49
  if
• 25:49
  you
• 25:49
  pull
• 25:50
  a
• 25:50
  building
• 25:50
  permit
• 25:51
  for
• 25:52
  a
• 25:52
  remodel
• 25:53
  up
• 25:53
  there,
• 25:53
  for
• 25:53
  a
• 25:53
  kitchen
• 25:54
  remodel,
• 25:54
  there
• 25:54
  is
• 25:55
  a
• 25:55
  point
• 25:55
  that
• 25:55
  when
• 25:56
  you
• 25:56
  get
• 25:56
  high
• 25:56
  enough
• 25:57
  on
• 25:57
  there,
• 25:58
  they
• 25:58
  require
• 25:59
  you
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  redo
• 26:01
  your
• 26:01
  H
• 26:01
  VAC
• 26:02
  system.
• 26:02
  So
• 26:03
  you
• 26:03
  include
• 26:04
  basically
• 26:06
  a.
• 26:07
  You
• 26:07
  have
• 26:07
  to
• 26:07
  bring
• 26:07
  fresh
• 26:08
  air
• 26:08
  into
• 26:08
  the
• 26:08
  house.
• 26:08
  So
• 26:08
  whether
• 26:09
  it's
• 26:09
  an
• 26:09
  ERV
• 26:10
  energy
• 26:10
  recovery
• 26:10
  ventilator,
• 26:11
  whatever
• 26:12
  you
• 26:12
  need
• 26:12
  for
• 26:12
  that
• 26:13
  house,
• 26:13
  you
• 26:13
  now
• 26:13
  have
• 26:14
  to
• 26:14
  add
• 26:14
  that
• 26:14
  in
• 26:15
  as
• 26:16
  part
• 26:16
  of
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  remodel.
• 26:18
  So
• 26:18
  all
• 26:19
  these
• 26:19
  things
• 26:19
  start
• 26:20
  to
• 26:20
  get
• 26:21
  catching
• 26:21
  up
• 26:21
  to
• 26:22
  you
• 26:22
  where
• 26:22
  it's.
• 26:22
  I'm
• 26:22
  just
• 26:23
  trying
• 26:23
  to
• 26:23
  do
• 26:23
  this.
• 26:24
  And
• 26:24
  no
• 26:25
  wonder
• 26:25
  why
• 26:25
  people
• 26:25
  don't
• 26:26
  pull
• 26:26
  building
• 26:26
  permits
• 26:27
  on
• 26:27
  some
• 26:27
  of
• 26:27
  these
• 26:27
  projects.
• 26:28
  Yeah,
• 26:29
  I
• 26:29
  certainly
• 26:29
  wouldn't.
• 26:30
  I
• 26:30
  know.
• 26:31
  But
• 26:31
  here's
• 26:31
  the
• 26:32
  problem,
• 26:32
  and
• 26:32
  this
• 26:32
  is
• 26:33
  a
• 26:33
  problem
• 26:33
  that
• 26:33
  we
• 26:33
  run
• 26:33
  into
• 26:34
  out
• 26:34
  there
• 26:34
  as
• 26:34
  well.
• 26:34
  And
• 26:34
  this
• 26:35
  is
• 26:35
  one
• 26:35
  of
• 26:35
  the
• 26:35
  things
• 26:35
  that
• 26:35
  I
• 26:35
  think
• 26:36
  is
• 26:36
  important
• 26:36
  to
• 26:36
  talk
• 26:36
  about
• 26:37
  when
• 26:38
  people
• 26:38
  are
• 26:38
  messing
• 26:39
  around
• 26:39
  with
• 26:39
  their
• 26:39
  houses.
• 26:39
  And
• 26:40
  I've
• 26:40
  told
• 26:40
  this
• 26:40
  story
• 26:41
  a
• 26:41
  few
• 26:41
  times,
• 26:41
  and
• 26:41
  I'll
• 26:42
  keep
• 26:42
  it
• 26:42
  brief,
• 26:42
  but
• 26:43
  I
• 26:43
  had
• 26:43
  somebody
• 26:44
  that
• 26:44
  was
• 26:44
  in
• 26:44
  one
• 26:44
  of
• 26:44
  our.
• 26:45
  One
• 26:45
  of
• 26:45
  the
• 26:45
  groups
• 26:45
  that
• 26:45
  I'm
• 26:46
  in
• 26:46
  said,
• 26:46
  hey,
• 26:46
  somebody
• 26:47
  built
• 26:47
  a
• 26:47
  house
• 26:47
  that
• 26:48
  didn't
• 26:48
  pull
• 26:48
  permits
• 26:49
  out
• 26:49
  in
• 26:50
  Oregon
• 26:50
  here,
• 26:51
  and
• 26:51
  they
• 26:52
  didn't
• 26:52
  pull
• 26:52
  any
• 26:52
  permits
• 26:53
  for
• 26:53
  it
• 26:53
  on
• 26:54
  their
• 26:54
  property.
• 26:55
  How
• 26:55
  do
• 26:55
  I
• 26:56
  appraise
• 26:56
  that?
• 26:57
  And
• 26:57
  I
• 26:57
  said,
• 26:57
  you
• 26:58
  might
• 26:58
  want
• 26:58
  to
• 26:58
  check.
• 26:59
  But
• 27:00
  in
• 27:00
  most
• 27:00
  places
• 27:01
  in
• 27:01
  the
• 27:01
  country,
• 27:02
  the
• 27:02
  building
• 27:03
  department
• 27:03
  states
• 27:04
  what
• 27:04
  your
• 27:04
  square
• 27:05
  Footage
• 27:05
  is.
• 27:06
  And
• 27:06
  if
• 27:06
  you
• 27:06
  didn't
• 27:07
  pull
• 27:07
  a
• 27:07
  permit,
• 27:08
  then
• 27:08
  you
• 27:09
  just
• 27:09
  have
• 27:09
  a
• 27:09
  beautiful
• 27:10
  storage
• 27:10
  space.
• 27:10
  It's
• 27:11
  not
• 27:11
  a
• 27:11
  house.
• 27:12
  And
• 27:12
  we
• 27:12
  see
• 27:12
  that
• 27:13
  if
• 27:13
  you
• 27:13
  have
• 27:13
  that
• 27:13
  old
• 27:14
  1920s
• 27:15
  farmhouse
• 27:16
  that
• 27:17
  had
• 27:17
  an
• 27:17
  empty
• 27:17
  basement
• 27:18
  and
• 27:18
  a
• 27:18
  storage
• 27:19
  attic
• 27:19
  up
• 27:19
  there
• 27:19
  that
• 27:19
  had
• 27:20
  stairs
• 27:20
  but
• 27:20
  just
• 27:20
  had
• 27:21
  an
• 27:21
  attic
• 27:21
  up
• 27:21
  there
• 27:21
  for
• 27:22
  putting
• 27:22
  in
• 27:22
  the,
• 27:23
  the
• 27:23
  Christmas
• 27:23
  stuff
• 27:24
  and
• 27:24
  the
• 27:24
  holiday
• 27:24
  ornaments
• 27:25
  and
• 27:25
  some
• 27:25
  of
• 27:25
  that
• 27:25
  light
• 27:26
  stuff.
• 27:26
  And
• 27:27
  that
• 27:27
  was
• 27:27
  a
• 27:28
  thousand
• 27:28
  square
• 27:29
  foot
• 27:29
  single
• 27:29
  story
• 27:30
  house.
• 27:30
  And
• 27:30
  they
• 27:30
  did
• 27:30
  a
• 27:31
  attic
• 27:32
  renovation
• 27:33
  and
• 27:33
  a
• 27:33
  basement
• 27:33
  renovation.
• 27:35
  You
• 27:35
  buy
• 27:35
  the
• 27:35
  house
• 27:36
  and
• 27:36
  the
• 27:36
  building
• 27:36
  department
• 27:36
  says
• 27:37
  it's
• 27:37
  a
• 27:37
  thousand
• 27:37
  square
• 27:38
  foot
• 27:38
  house,
• 27:38
  but
• 27:38
  you've
• 27:39
  got
• 27:39
  2,600
• 27:40
  square
• 27:40
  feet
• 27:40
  of
• 27:41
  real
• 27:41
  estate
• 27:41
  there.
• 27:42
  It's
• 27:42
  still
• 27:42
  a
• 27:43
  thousand
• 27:43
  square
• 27:43
  foot
• 27:43
  house.
• 27:43
  So
• 27:43
  they
• 27:44
  didn't
• 27:44
  pull
• 27:44
  a
• 27:44
  permit.
• 27:45
  Now
• 27:45
  the
• 27:46
  irs,
• 27:47
  now
• 27:47
  the
• 27:47
  IRS
• 27:48
  estimates
• 27:48
  what
• 27:48
  you
• 27:49
  made.
• 27:50
  You're
• 27:50
  not
• 27:50
  going
• 27:50
  to
• 27:50
  tell
• 27:51
  us.
• 27:51
  We
• 27:51
  think
• 27:51
  you
• 27:52
  probably
• 27:52
  made
• 27:52
  a
• 27:53
  law.
• 27:53
  Yeah,
• 27:54
  absolutely.
• 27:54
  So
• 27:55
  that's
• 27:55
  where
• 27:55
  these
• 27:56
  problems
• 27:56
  come
• 27:56
  in.
• 27:57
  And
• 27:57
  especially
• 27:58
  with
• 27:58
  older
• 27:58
  homes.
• 27:58
  I
• 27:59
  love
• 27:59
  saving
• 27:59
  older
• 28:00
  homes,
• 28:00
  but
• 28:00
  the
• 28:00
  problem
• 28:01
  we're
• 28:01
  getting
• 28:01
  into
• 28:01
  now
• 28:02
  is
• 28:03
  because
• 28:03
  of
• 28:03
  asbestos
• 28:04
  and
• 28:04
  lead.
• 28:05
  Oh
• 28:05
  wait,
• 28:06
  if
• 28:06
  you're
• 28:06
  tearing
• 28:06
  down
• 28:07
  that
• 28:07
  house
• 28:07
  in
• 28:07
  Portland,
• 28:07
  you
• 28:08
  got
• 28:08
  to
• 28:08
  have
• 28:08
  the
• 28:08
  asbestos
• 28:09
  and
• 28:09
  lead
• 28:09
  removed
• 28:10
  out
• 28:10
  of
• 28:10
  it
• 28:11
  before
• 28:11
  you
• 28:11
  can
• 28:11
  tear
• 28:11
  it
• 28:12
  down
• 28:12
  by
• 28:12
  hand.
• 28:13
  Yeah.
• 28:14
  So
• 28:14
  you've
• 28:14
  got
• 28:14
  to
• 28:14
  abate
• 28:15
  that
• 28:15
  all
• 28:15
  first.
• 28:16
  And
• 28:16
  so
• 28:17
  that
• 28:17
  is
• 28:18
  just
• 28:18
  a
• 28:18
  troublesome.
• 28:19
  I
• 28:19
  saw
• 28:19
  somebody
• 28:20
  again
• 28:20
  get
• 28:20
  fined
• 28:21
  for
• 28:21
  that.
• 28:21
  They
• 28:22
  came
• 28:22
  in
• 28:22
  with
• 28:22
  an
• 28:22
  excavator,
• 28:23
  knocked
• 28:23
  it
• 28:23
  down.
• 28:23
  The
• 28:24
  city
• 28:24
  got
• 28:24
  them.
• 28:25
  Yeah.
• 28:25
  And
• 28:25
  again
• 28:26
  things
• 28:26
  you
• 28:26
  got
• 28:26
  to
• 28:26
  be
• 28:27
  careful
• 28:27
  with
• 28:27
  out
• 28:27
  there.
• 28:28
  And
• 28:29
  nobody
• 28:29
  wants
• 28:29
  to
• 28:29
  build
• 28:30
  out
• 28:30
  of
• 28:30
  these
• 28:30
  two
• 28:30
  by
• 28:31
  fours
• 28:31
  that
• 28:31
  they're
• 28:31
  saving
• 28:32
  because
• 28:32
  they're,
• 28:33
  they're
• 28:34
  non
• 28:34
  dimensional
• 28:34
  lumber.
• 28:35
  They're
• 28:35
  2
• 28:36
  inches
• 28:36
  by
• 28:36
  4
• 28:37
  inches.
• 28:38
  Yep.
• 28:38
  And
• 28:39
  nothing
• 28:39
  sized.
• 28:40
  Door
• 28:40
  jambs
• 28:40
  aren't
• 28:41
  sized
• 28:41
  that
• 28:41
  way
• 28:41
  anymore.
• 28:42
  And
• 28:42
  who
• 28:43
  wants
• 28:43
  to
• 28:43
  go
• 28:43
  through
• 28:43
  and
• 28:44
  cut
• 28:44
  that
• 28:44
  old
• 28:45
  hardwood?
• 28:46
  It's
• 28:46
  cheaper
• 28:47
  to
• 28:47
  go
• 28:47
  use
• 28:47
  the
• 28:47
  studs.
• 28:48
  Yeah.
• 28:49
  And
• 28:49
  that's
• 28:49
  not
• 28:50
  helping
• 28:50
  our
• 28:50
  affordable
• 28:51
  housing.
• 28:52
  And
• 28:52
  then
• 28:53
  of
• 28:53
  course
• 28:53
  the
• 28:53
  big
• 28:54
  one,
• 28:54
  Johnny,
• 28:54
  is
• 28:55
  we
• 28:55
  got
• 28:55
  rid
• 28:55
  of
• 28:56
  all
• 28:56
  the
• 28:56
  trade
• 28:56
  schools
• 28:57
  out
• 28:57
  there
• 28:57
  and
• 28:57
  we
• 28:58
  did
• 28:58
  CTE
• 28:58
  classes
• 28:59
  where
• 28:59
  we're
• 28:59
  teaching
• 28:59
  kids
• 29:00
  computer
• 29:01
  programming
• 29:01
  and
• 29:02
  healthcare
• 29:03
  and
• 29:03
  things
• 29:03
  like
• 29:04
  that.
• 29:04
  But
• 29:04
  that
• 29:05
  wood
• 29:05
  shop,
• 29:05
  metal
• 29:06
  shop,
• 29:06
  auto
• 29:07
  shop,
• 29:07
  whatever.
• 29:08
  Yeah.
• 29:09
  Has
• 29:09
  been
• 29:09
  removed
• 29:10
  out
• 29:10
  of
• 29:10
  so
• 29:10
  many
• 29:10
  schools
• 29:11
  out
• 29:11
  there
• 29:11
  and
• 29:11
  they
• 29:12
  call
• 29:12
  it
• 29:12
  cte
• 29:13
  but
• 29:13
  they
• 29:13
  didn't
• 29:14
  put
• 29:14
  it
• 29:14
  back
• 29:14
  in.
• 29:15
  Yeah,
• 29:15
  we've
• 29:16
  talked
• 29:16
  about
• 29:16
  that
• 29:16
  a
• 29:16
  couple
• 29:16
  of
• 29:17
  times
• 29:17
  and,
• 29:18
  and
• 29:18
  to
• 29:18
  be
• 29:19
  fair,
• 29:20
  it
• 29:20
  seems,
• 29:20
  or
• 29:21
  it
• 29:21
  would
• 29:21
  seem
• 29:21
  at
• 29:22
  least
• 29:22
  because
• 29:22
  the
• 29:22
  topic's
• 29:23
  been
• 29:23
  talked
• 29:23
  about
• 29:23
  so
• 29:24
  much
• 29:24
  recently
• 29:25
  that
• 29:26
  there's
• 29:26
  some
• 29:27
  of
• 29:27
  that's
• 29:27
  coming
• 29:27
  back,
• 29:28
  right?
• 29:28
  Yeah,
• 29:29
  it's
• 29:29
  exactly.
• 29:30
  And
• 29:30
  a
• 29:30
  lot,
• 29:30
  I
• 29:31
  think
• 29:31
  a
• 29:31
  lot
• 29:31
  of
• 29:31
  it
• 29:32
  is
• 29:32
  due
• 29:32
  to
• 29:34
  the
• 29:34
  younger
• 29:34
  generation
• 29:35
  having
• 29:35
  interest
• 29:36
  and
• 29:36
  realizing,
• 29:37
  wait,
• 29:38
  I
• 29:38
  could
• 29:38
  go
• 29:38
  be
• 29:38
  a
• 29:39
  social
• 29:40
  media
• 29:40
  marketer
• 29:41
  for
• 29:42
  those
• 29:42
  pay
• 29:42
  grades
• 29:43
  have
• 29:43
  gone
• 29:43
  way
• 29:44
  down.
• 29:44
  That
• 29:44
  used
• 29:44
  to
• 29:44
  be
• 29:44
  110k,
• 29:45
  now
• 29:45
  it's
• 29:46
  40
• 29:46
  because
• 29:47
  anybody
• 29:47
  can
• 29:47
  post
• 29:47
  to
• 29:48
  Instagram
• 29:48
  or
• 29:48
  so
• 29:49
  they
• 29:49
  think
• 29:50
  I'm
• 29:50
  a
• 29:50
  marketer,
• 29:50
  so
• 29:50
  I
• 29:51
  can't
• 29:51
  really
• 29:51
  badmouth
• 29:51
  that
• 29:52
  end
• 29:52
  of
• 29:52
  things.
• 29:53
  But
• 29:53
  they're
• 29:53
  looking
• 29:53
  at
• 29:54
  that
• 29:54
  going,
• 29:54
  okay,
• 29:54
  40k
• 29:55
  and
• 29:55
  I
• 29:55
  slave
• 29:56
  away
• 29:56
  at
• 29:56
  a
• 29:56
  startup
• 29:57
  or
• 29:57
  I
• 29:57
  can
• 29:57
  go
• 29:57
  make
• 29:58
  110
• 29:58
  as
• 29:58
  an
• 29:59
  H
• 29:59
  vac
• 29:59
  guy.
• 30:00
  Yeah,
• 30:00
  it's
• 30:01
  so
• 30:01
  much
• 30:01
  smarter.
• 30:01
  And
• 30:01
  we
• 30:02
  do
• 30:02
  have
• 30:02
  trade
• 30:02
  schools
• 30:03
  out
• 30:03
  there,
• 30:03
  you
• 30:04
  know,
• 30:04
  that
• 30:04
  trade.
• 30:04
  That
• 30:05
  do
• 30:05
  a
• 30:05
  great
• 30:05
  job
• 30:06
  of
• 30:06
  training
• 30:06
  people.
• 30:06
  But
• 30:07
  we're
• 30:07
  not
• 30:07
  building
• 30:07
  up
• 30:08
  the
• 30:08
  farm
• 30:08
  team
• 30:08
  in
• 30:09
  the
• 30:09
  middle
• 30:09
  schools
• 30:09
  and
• 30:09
  high
• 30:09
  schools
• 30:10
  with
• 30:10
  wood
• 30:10
  shop
• 30:10
  or
• 30:11
  welding
• 30:11
  or
• 30:11
  any
• 30:11
  of
• 30:11
  that
• 30:11
  other
• 30:12
  stuff.
• 30:12
  And
• 30:12
  that's
• 30:12
  where
• 30:13
  the
• 30:13
  problems
• 30:14
  arise
• 30:14
  because
• 30:15
  we
• 30:15
  just
• 30:15
  have
• 30:15
  people
• 30:15
  not
• 30:16
  being
• 30:16
  handy.
• 30:17
  And
• 30:18
  that
• 30:18
  when
• 30:18
  you're
• 30:19
  now
• 30:19
  having
• 30:19
  to
• 30:19
  pay
• 30:19
  an
• 30:20
  electrician
• 30:21
  $120,000
• 30:22
  instead
• 30:22
  of
• 30:22
  $80,000.
• 30:24
  Yeah.
• 30:24
  And
• 30:24
  you
• 30:24
  have
• 30:25
  a
• 30:25
  hard
• 30:25
  time
• 30:25
  keeping
• 30:26
  them
• 30:26
  because
• 30:27
  everybody
• 30:28
  wants
• 30:28
  to
• 30:28
  hire
• 30:28
  him
• 30:28
  from
• 30:29
  you.
• 30:29
  It's
• 30:30
  great
• 30:30
  for
• 30:30
  the
• 30:30
  people
• 30:30
  in
• 30:30
  the
• 30:31
  trades.
• 30:31
  I
• 30:31
  love
• 30:31
  it.
• 30:32
  I
• 30:32
  love
• 30:32
  that
• 30:32
  they're
• 30:32
  out
• 30:32
  there
• 30:33
  making
• 30:33
  more
• 30:33
  money
• 30:33
  than
• 30:34
  the
• 30:34
  school
• 30:34
  teachers
• 30:34
  that
• 30:35
  told
• 30:35
  them,
• 30:35
  you're
• 30:36
  not
• 30:36
  going
• 30:36
  to
• 30:36
  be
• 30:36
  anybody.
• 30:37
  You
• 30:37
  know
• 30:37
  what
• 30:37
  I
• 30:37
  mean?
• 30:38
  Yeah.
• 30:39
  Yes,
• 30:39
  as
• 30:40
  a
• 30:40
  matter
• 30:40
  of
• 30:40
  fact,
• 30:40
  I
• 30:40
  do.
• 30:41
  I
• 30:41
  know
• 30:41
  you
• 30:41
  do
• 30:42
  because
• 30:42
  you
• 30:42
  and
• 30:42
  I
• 30:42
  both
• 30:42
  ran
• 30:43
  into
• 30:43
  that.
• 30:43
  And
• 30:43
  so
• 30:44
  to
• 30:45
  me,
• 30:45
  it's
• 30:45
  where
• 30:45
  we've
• 30:45
  failed.
• 30:46
  And
• 30:46
  a
• 30:46
  lot
• 30:46
  of
• 30:46
  these
• 30:47
  school
• 30:47
  districts
• 30:47
  have
• 30:48
  just
• 30:48
  absolutely
• 30:50
  bought
• 30:50
  into.
• 30:51
  Everyone
• 30:51
  goes
• 30:52
  to
• 30:52
  college
• 30:53
  and
• 30:53
  we're
• 30:53
  not
• 30:54
  doing
• 30:54
  another
• 30:54
  thing
• 30:54
  about
• 30:55
  it.
• 30:55
  And
• 30:56
  there's
• 30:56
  20%
• 30:57
  of
• 30:57
  their
• 30:57
  kids
• 30:57
  in
• 30:57
  there
• 30:58
  or
• 30:58
  more
• 30:59
  that
• 30:59
  are
• 30:59
  going
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  go
• 31:00
  to
• 31:00
  college
• 31:00
  or
• 31:01
  they're
• 31:01
  going
• 31:01
  to
• 31:01
  go
• 31:02
  to
• 31:02
  college
• 31:02
  and
• 31:03
  really
• 31:04
  get
• 31:04
  a
• 31:04
  degree
• 31:04
  that
• 31:05
  does
• 31:05
  them
• 31:05
  nothing.
• 31:06
  They'll
• 31:06
  be
• 31:06
  working
• 31:06
  at
• 31:06
  Starbucks
• 31:07
  for
• 31:07
  the
• 31:07
  rest
• 31:07
  of
• 31:07
  their
• 31:07
  lives.
• 31:08
  Yeah,
• 31:08
  I
• 31:09
  think
• 31:09
  that
• 31:09
  lesson's
• 31:09
  getting
• 31:10
  learned
• 31:10
  as
• 31:10
  well.
• 31:10
  I
• 31:11
  think.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:11
  think.
• 31:11
  I
• 31:12
  would
• 31:12
  dare
• 31:13
  to
• 31:13
  bet
• 31:13
  that
• 31:13
  it's
• 31:14
  far
• 31:14
  more
• 31:14
  than
• 31:14
  20%
• 31:15
  that
• 31:15
  aren't
• 31:15
  going
• 31:16
  to
• 31:16
  college
• 31:16
  anymore.
• 31:17
  Now,
• 31:18
  let's
• 31:18
  blame
• 31:18
  half
• 31:18
  of
• 31:19
  that
• 31:19
  on
• 31:19
  those
• 31:19
  cats
• 31:20
  thinking
• 31:20
  they're
• 31:20
  going
• 31:20
  to
• 31:20
  become
• 31:21
  famous
• 31:21
  YouTubers
• 31:22
  and
• 31:23
  they
• 31:23
  don't
• 31:23
  need
• 31:23
  college
• 31:24
  or
• 31:24
  they'll
• 31:24
  build
• 31:24
  a
• 31:25
  Shopify
• 31:25
  store.
• 31:26
  But
• 31:27
  yeah,
• 31:27
  I
• 31:27
  think
• 31:27
  the
• 31:28
  college
• 31:28
  myth
• 31:29
  has
• 31:29
  consistently
• 31:30
  been
• 31:31
  debunked
• 31:31
  over
• 31:32
  the
• 31:32
  last
• 31:32
  generation
• 31:34
  because
• 31:34
  enough
• 31:35
  kids
• 31:35
  went
• 31:35
  through
• 31:35
  it
• 31:35
  and
• 31:36
  went,
• 31:36
  I
• 31:36
  can't
• 31:36
  be
• 31:37
  a
• 31:37
  marine
• 31:37
  biologist
• 31:38
  or
• 31:38
  whatever
• 31:39
  the
• 31:39
  case
• 31:39
  may
• 31:39
  be,
• 31:40
  even
• 31:40
  an
• 31:40
  mba.
• 31:40
  They're
• 31:41
  so
• 31:41
  common.
• 31:42
  They
• 31:42
  say
• 31:42
  they're
• 31:43
  required
• 31:43
  and
• 31:43
  everybody
• 31:44
  thinks
• 31:44
  they
• 31:44
  need
• 31:44
  one.
• 31:45
  You
• 31:45
  don't
• 31:45
  need
• 31:46
  one.
• 31:47
  You
• 31:47
  honestly
• 31:48
  don't
• 31:48
  need
• 31:48
  one
• 31:49
  because
• 31:50
  people
• 31:50
  want
• 31:50
  good
• 31:50
  help.
• 31:51
  And
• 31:51
  if
• 31:51
  you're
• 31:51
  good
• 31:51
  help,
• 31:52
  you're
• 31:52
  gonna
• 31:52
  get
• 31:52
  hired
• 31:53
  whether
• 31:53
  you
• 31:53
  have
• 31:53
  an
• 31:54
  MBA
• 31:54
  or
• 31:55
  whatever.
• 31:56
  Yeah,
• 31:56
  absolutely.
• 31:57
  Now,
• 31:57
  when
• 31:57
  we
• 31:58
  come
• 31:58
  back,
• 31:58
  I
• 31:58
  want
• 31:58
  to
• 31:58
  dive
• 31:59
  a
• 31:59
  little
• 31:59
  deeper
• 31:59
  on
• 31:59
  that
• 32:00
  one
• 32:00
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• 32:00
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• 32:00
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• 32:00
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• 32:00
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• 32:00
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• 32:01
  of
• 32:01
  a
• 32:01
  rant
• 32:01
  on
• 32:01
  there
• 32:02
  for
• 32:02
  me
• 32:02
  on
• 32:02
  that
• 32:02
  one
• 32:03
  that
• 32:03
  I
• 32:03
  think
• 32:04
  that
• 32:04
  we
• 32:04
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• 32:04
  to
• 32:04
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• 32:05
  out
• 32:05
  there.
• 32:05
  And
• 32:05
  I
• 32:06
  think
• 32:06
  we're
• 32:06
  getting
• 32:06
  close
• 32:07
  to
• 32:07
  that.
• 32:07
  Hey,
• 32:08
  if
• 32:08
  there's
• 32:08
  a
• 32:08
  subject
• 32:08
  we
• 32:08
  haven't
• 32:09
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• 32:09
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• 32:09
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• 32:10
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• 32:11
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• 32:11
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• 35:14
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• 35:18
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• 35:19
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• 35:19
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• 35:20
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• 35:20
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• 35:21
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• 35:21
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• 35:22
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• 35:22
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• 35:22
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• 35:22
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• 35:22
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• 35:22
  in
• 35:23
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• 35:23
  but
• 35:23
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• 35:24
  a
• 35:24
  whole
• 35:24
  other
• 35:24
  episode,
• 35:25
  a
• 35:25
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• 35:25
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• 35:25
  day.
• 35:26
  But
• 35:27
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• 35:27
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• 35:27
  of
• 35:28
  the
• 35:28
  things
• 35:28
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• 35:28
  I
• 35:28
  think
• 35:28
  that
• 35:29
  we
• 35:29
  could
• 35:29
  do
• 35:29
  to
• 35:29
  fix
• 35:31
  getting
• 35:31
  kids
• 35:31
  into
• 35:31
  the
• 35:32
  trades
• 35:32
  and
• 35:32
  really
• 35:32
  getting
• 35:33
  these
• 35:33
  built
• 35:33
  up
• 35:33
  because
• 35:34
  we're
• 35:34
  still
• 35:34
  losing
• 35:35
  people
• 35:35
  faster
• 35:35
  than
• 35:36
  we're
• 35:36
  bringing
• 35:36
  them
• 35:36
  in.
• 35:37
  Those
• 35:37
  baby
• 35:37
  boomers
• 35:38
  and
• 35:38
  a
• 35:39
  lot
• 35:39
  of
• 35:39
  people
• 35:39
  retiring
• 35:40
  right
• 35:40
  now
• 35:40
  that
• 35:40
  we
• 35:40
  don't
• 35:40
  have
• 35:40
  enough
• 35:41
  people
• 35:41
  to
• 35:41
  go
• 35:41
  back
• 35:41
  into
• 35:42
  that.
• 35:42
  Here's
• 35:43
  how
• 35:43
  we
• 35:43
  fix
• 35:43
  our
• 35:44
  college
• 35:44
  education
• 35:45
  problem.
• 35:46
  Boy,
• 35:46
  here's
• 35:47
  my
• 35:47
  take.
• 35:48
  When
• 35:48
  we
• 35:48
  do
• 35:48
  student
• 35:49
  loans,
• 35:50
  you
• 35:50
  need
• 35:50
  to
• 35:51
  do
• 35:51
  a
• 35:51
  report
• 35:52
  on
• 35:52
  how
• 35:53
  you're
• 35:53
  going
• 35:53
  to
• 35:53
  pay
• 35:53
  it
• 35:53
  back.
• 35:54
  What
• 35:55
  career
• 35:55
  are
• 35:56
  you
• 35:56
  going
• 35:56
  to
• 35:56
  find?
• 35:57
  What's
• 35:57
  that
• 35:58
  going
• 35:58
  to
• 35:58
  do
• 35:58
  that
• 35:58
  you
• 35:58
  need
• 35:59
  that
• 35:59
  degree
• 35:59
  for?
• 36:00
  So
• 36:00
  if
• 36:00
  you've
• 36:00
  got
• 36:00
  that
• 36:01
  sociology
• 36:02
  degree
• 36:02
  or
• 36:02
  human
• 36:03
  studies
• 36:03
  degree,
• 36:05
  how
• 36:05
  are
• 36:05
  you
• 36:05
  going
• 36:06
  to
• 36:06
  use
• 36:06
  that?
• 36:07
  How
• 36:08
  are
• 36:08
  you
• 36:08
  going
• 36:08
  to
• 36:08
  pay
• 36:08
  back
• 36:09
  that
• 36:09
  $250,000
• 36:10
  student
• 36:11
  loan?
• 36:11
  Man,
• 36:12
  you
• 36:12
  just
• 36:12
  took
• 36:12
  all
• 36:13
  the
• 36:13
  fun
• 36:13
  out
• 36:13
  of
• 36:14
  student
• 36:14
  loans
• 36:14
  as
• 36:15
  well
• 36:15
  as
• 36:15
  all
• 36:15
  the
• 36:15
  burritos
• 36:16
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• 36:16
  free
• 36:16
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• 36:17
  Right.
• 36:18
  Think
• 36:18
  about
• 36:18
  it.
• 36:19
  If
• 36:19
  we.
• 36:19
  I
• 36:20
  have
• 36:20
  to
• 36:20
  do
• 36:20
  that
• 36:20
  for
• 36:20
  a
• 36:20
  house
• 36:21
  loan,
• 36:21
  I
• 36:21
  got
• 36:21
  to
• 36:21
  do
• 36:21
  that
• 36:21
  to
• 36:22
  get
• 36:22
  a
• 36:22
  car
• 36:22
  loan,
• 36:22
  I
• 36:22
  got
• 36:22
  to
• 36:23
  put
• 36:23
  down,
• 36:23
  hey,
• 36:23
  what
• 36:23
  am
• 36:23
  I
• 36:24
  going
• 36:24
  to
• 36:24
  make?
• 36:24
  What's.
• 36:25
  How
• 36:25
  am
• 36:25
  I
• 36:25
  going
• 36:25
  to
• 36:26
  pay
• 36:26
  this
• 36:26
  back?
• 36:27
  Yeah.
• 36:28
  And
• 36:28
  don't
• 36:29
  do
• 36:29
  that
• 36:29
  now.
• 36:29
  You
• 36:30
  just
• 36:30
  AI
• 36:30
  and
• 36:30
  go
• 36:31
  write
• 36:31
  me
• 36:31
  a
• 36:31
  letter
• 36:32
  that
• 36:32
  justifies
• 36:33
  my
• 36:34
  student
• 36:34
  loans
• 36:34
  that
• 36:34
  I'm
• 36:34
  going
• 36:35
  to
• 36:35
  take
• 36:35
  out
• 36:35
  and
• 36:35
  spend
• 36:35
  on
• 36:36
  nothing
• 36:36
  but
• 36:36
  ridiculous
• 36:37
  things.
• 36:38
  Right.
• 36:39
  It's.
• 36:40
  You
• 36:40
  think
• 36:40
  about
• 36:40
  it
• 36:41
  though,
• 36:41
  if
• 36:41
  we
• 36:41
  sat
• 36:42
  there
• 36:42
  and
• 36:43
  just
• 36:43
  said,
• 36:43
  okay,
• 36:43
  kids,
• 36:44
  you're
• 36:45
  going
• 36:45
  to
• 36:45
  go
• 36:45
  down
• 36:45
  this
• 36:45
  road,
• 36:45
  this
• 36:46
  path,
• 36:46
  this
• 36:46
  is
• 36:46
  what
• 36:47
  you're
• 36:47
  going
• 36:47
  to
• 36:47
  do.
• 36:47
  Awesome.
• 36:48
  You
• 36:48
  want
• 36:48
  to
• 36:48
  be
• 36:49
  a
• 36:49
  doctor.
• 36:49
  Beautiful.
• 36:51
  Here's
• 36:51
  the
• 36:51
  path
• 36:51
  to
• 36:52
  med
• 36:52
  school.
• 36:53
  But
• 36:53
  how
• 36:53
  many
• 36:53
  people
• 36:54
  do
• 36:54
  I
• 36:54
  know
• 36:54
  that
• 36:54
  went
• 36:55
  to
• 36:55
  college
• 36:55
  that
• 36:55
  are
• 36:55
  working
• 36:56
  at
• 36:56
  Starbucks
• 36:56
  are
• 36:56
  doing
• 36:57
  nothing
• 36:57
  related
• 36:58
  to
• 36:58
  that
• 36:58
  degree?
• 36:59
  Yeah.
• 37:00
  And
• 37:00
  now
• 37:00
  they're
• 37:00
  making
• 37:01
  20,
• 37:01
  22
• 37:01
  bucks
• 37:02
  an
• 37:02
  hour
• 37:02
  and
• 37:02
  still
• 37:02
  have
• 37:02
  to
• 37:03
  pay
• 37:03
  a
• 37:03
  six
• 37:03
  figure
• 37:03
  college
• 37:04
  loan
• 37:04
  back.
• 37:04
  That
• 37:05
  does
• 37:05
  not
• 37:05
  help
• 37:05
  them
• 37:06
  become
• 37:06
  homeowners
• 37:06
  either.
• 37:07
  No.
• 37:07
  It's
• 37:08
  brutal.
• 37:08
  It's
• 37:09
  it.
• 37:09
  Yeah.
• 37:10
  That
• 37:11
  again,
• 37:11
  that.
• 37:12
  The
• 37:12
  whole
• 37:12
  college
• 37:13
  thing
• 37:13
  and
• 37:13
  the
• 37:13
  expense
• 37:14
  of
• 37:14
  it,
• 37:14
  that's
• 37:15
  right
• 37:15
  up
• 37:15
  there
• 37:15
  with
• 37:15
  permits.
• 37:16
  For
• 37:16
  me
• 37:16
  at
• 37:16
  this
• 37:17
  point.
• 37:17
  It's
• 37:17
  a,
• 37:18
  that's
• 37:18
  a
• 37:18
  deep
• 37:18
  dive
• 37:19
  on.
• 37:20
  Again,
• 37:21
  don't
• 37:21
  buy
• 37:21
  the
• 37:21
  hype.
• 37:21
  I
• 37:22
  guess
• 37:22
  I,
• 37:22
  Yeah,
• 37:23
  I
• 37:23
  get
• 37:23
  so
• 37:24
  aggravated
• 37:24
  with
• 37:24
  just
• 37:25
  lying,
• 37:26
  scamming.
• 37:27
  There's
• 37:27
  a
• 37:27
  lot
• 37:27
  of
• 37:28
  it
• 37:28
  out
• 37:28
  there.
• 37:28
  There's
• 37:28
  a
• 37:28
  lot
• 37:29
  of
• 37:29
  it
• 37:29
  now.
• 37:29
  I
• 37:29
  think
• 37:30
  there's
• 37:30
  some
• 37:30
  things
• 37:30
  we
• 37:30
  can
• 37:30
  be
• 37:31
  doing
• 37:31
  too.
• 37:31
  And
• 37:31
  especially
• 37:32
  for
• 37:32
  younger
• 37:32
  homeowners,
• 37:33
  we
• 37:33
  could
• 37:34
  be
• 37:34
  taking
• 37:34
  a
• 37:34
  lot
• 37:34
  of
• 37:34
  these
• 37:35
  in
• 37:35
  cities,
• 37:36
  these
• 37:36
  empty
• 37:36
  high
• 37:37
  rises
• 37:37
  and
• 37:37
  making
• 37:37
  them
• 37:38
  into
• 37:38
  nice
• 37:38
  condos
• 37:39
  that
• 37:39
  are
• 37:39
  900
• 37:39
  square
• 37:40
  feet.
• 37:40
  Yep.
• 37:41
  In
• 37:41
  the
• 37:42
  parking
• 37:42
  garage
• 37:42
  down
• 37:42
  below.
• 37:43
  Have
• 37:43
  them
• 37:43
  a
• 37:43
  little
• 37:44
  garage
• 37:44
  area
• 37:44
  that
• 37:45
  they
• 37:45
  can
• 37:45
  park
• 37:45
  in
• 37:45
  or
• 37:46
  something
• 37:46
  like
• 37:46
  that
• 37:46
  to
• 37:46
  do.
• 37:47
  I
• 37:47
  think
• 37:48
  there's
• 37:48
  a
• 37:48
  lot
• 37:48
  of
• 37:48
  that
• 37:48
  stuff
• 37:48
  we
• 37:49
  can
• 37:49
  do
• 37:49
  to
• 37:49
  get
• 37:49
  people
• 37:50
  into
• 37:50
  housing
• 37:51
  first.
• 37:51
  And
• 37:52
  there's
• 37:53
  so
• 37:53
  much
• 37:53
  stuff
• 37:53
  going
• 37:54
  on
• 37:54
  out
• 37:54
  there.
• 37:54
  I
• 37:54
  think
• 37:55
  that
• 37:55
  we
• 37:55
  need
• 37:55
  to
• 37:55
  have
• 37:56
  more
• 37:56
  of
• 37:57
  a
• 37:57
  national
• 37:57
  plan
• 37:58
  that
• 37:58
  is
• 37:58
  going
• 37:58
  to
• 37:59
  maybe
• 37:59
  even
• 37:59
  override
• 38:00
  some
• 38:01
  of
• 38:01
  the
• 38:01
  local
• 38:02
  missteps
• 38:03
  that
• 38:03
  we're
• 38:03
  making
• 38:04
  to
• 38:05
  really
• 38:05
  come
• 38:05
  up
• 38:06
  with
• 38:06
  something
• 38:06
  that,
• 38:06
  that,
• 38:07
  that's
• 38:07
  going
• 38:08
  to
• 38:08
  work.
• 38:08
  I
• 38:09
  think
• 38:09
  it
• 38:09
  almost
• 38:10
  has
• 38:10
  to
• 38:10
  be
• 38:10
  forced
• 38:10
  from
• 38:11
  a
• 38:11
  federal
• 38:11
  level.
• 38:11
  But
• 38:12
  because
• 38:12
  of
• 38:13
  the
• 38:13
  ridiculous
• 38:13
  we're
• 38:14
  seeing
• 38:14
  in
• 38:14
  some
• 38:15
  states,
• 38:15
  like
• 38:15
  you
• 38:15
  mentioned,
• 38:16
  this
• 38:17
  has
• 38:17
  got
• 38:17
  to
• 38:17
  be
• 38:17
  a
• 38:17
  mandate
• 38:18
  that
• 38:18
  says,
• 38:18
  look,
• 38:18
  man,
• 38:19
  people
• 38:19
  need
• 38:19
  a
• 38:19
  place
• 38:19
  to
• 38:20
  live.
• 38:20
  Look
• 38:20
  at
• 38:20
  all
• 38:21
  this
• 38:21
  vacant
• 38:21
  space.
• 38:22
  Let's
• 38:23
  use
• 38:23
  it.
• 38:23
  Let's
• 38:24
  fix
• 38:24
  this.
• 38:24
  As,
• 38:25
  as
• 38:26
  a
• 38:26
  country,
• 38:26
  as
• 38:26
  a
• 38:27
  community,
• 38:27
  that's
• 38:27
  what
• 38:27
  we're
• 38:28
  supposed
• 38:28
  to
• 38:28
  be
• 38:28
  doing,
• 38:28
  not
• 38:29
  dogging
• 38:29
  people
• 38:30
  out.
• 38:30
  Like,
• 38:31
  it
• 38:31
  makes
• 38:31
  no
• 38:32
  sense.
• 38:33
  Again,
• 38:33
  back
• 38:33
  to
• 38:33
  super
• 38:34
  size
• 38:34
  and
• 38:34
  waste.
• 38:35
  It's
• 38:36
  harder
• 38:36
  than
• 38:36
  ever
• 38:36
  when
• 38:37
  you've
• 38:37
  got
• 38:37
  everybody
• 38:37
  so
• 38:38
  divided.
• 38:38
  There's
• 38:38
  a
• 38:39
  team
• 38:39
  A,
• 38:39
  team
• 38:40
  B,
• 38:40
  we'll
• 38:40
  call
• 38:40
  it.
• 38:41
  Yeah,
• 38:41
  nobody
• 38:42
  wants
• 38:42
  to
• 38:42
  be
• 38:42
  C.
• 38:43
  And
• 38:44
  it's
• 38:44
  tough
• 38:44
  out
• 38:44
  there.
• 38:44
  And
• 38:45
  I
• 38:45
  think
• 38:45
  that's
• 38:45
  how
• 38:46
  we
• 38:46
  fix
• 38:46
  some
• 38:46
  of
• 38:47
  that
• 38:47
  stuff.
• 38:48
  Again,
• 38:48
  we
• 38:49
  don't
• 38:49
  talk
• 38:49
  politics,
• 38:50
  but
• 38:50
  I
• 38:50
  hope
• 38:50
  that
• 38:51
  some
• 38:51
  of
• 38:51
  this
• 38:51
  stuff
• 38:51
  actually
• 38:52
  doesn't
• 38:53
  fall
• 38:53
  on
• 38:53
  deaf
• 38:54
  ears.
• 38:54
  You
• 38:54
  know
• 38:54
  what
• 38:54
  I
• 38:54
  mean?
• 38:56
  Absolutely.
• 38:57
  I
• 38:57
  have
• 38:57
  a
• 38:57
  hard
• 38:57
  time
• 38:58
  not
• 38:58
  going
• 38:58
  into
• 38:58
  the
• 38:58
  full
• 38:58
  tirade,
• 38:59
  but.
• 39:00
  And
• 39:00
  that's
• 39:00
  why
• 39:00
  I
• 39:00
  stay
• 39:01
  checked
• 39:01
  out
• 39:01
  of
• 39:01
  it,
• 39:03
  because
• 39:03
  it's
• 39:04
  so
• 39:04
  frustrating
• 39:04
  as
• 39:05
  I've
• 39:05
  gotten
• 39:05
  older
• 39:06
  to
• 39:06
  watch
• 39:06
  so
• 39:07
  many
• 39:07
  things
• 39:07
  that
• 39:08
  are
• 39:08
  so
• 39:09
  wrong
• 39:09
  that
• 39:09
  I
• 39:10
  can't
• 39:10
  fix.
• 39:11
  They're
• 39:12
  broke
• 39:12
  to
• 39:12
  a
• 39:12
  point
• 39:13
  where
• 39:14
  I
• 39:14
  don't.
• 39:14
  I'm
• 39:15
  out
• 39:15
  of
• 39:15
  answers
• 39:16
  like,
• 39:16
  how.
• 39:16
  How
• 39:16
  do
• 39:16
  you
• 39:17
  fix.
• 39:18
  And
• 39:18
  here's
• 39:18
  the
• 39:19
  other
• 39:19
  problem
• 39:19
  we
• 39:19
  got
• 39:19
  too,
• 39:19
  is
• 39:20
  building
• 39:20
  codes,
• 39:21
  Especially
• 39:21
  with
• 39:22
  the
• 39:22
  exterior
• 39:22
  part
• 39:23
  of
• 39:23
  structures
• 39:24
  in
• 39:24
  some
• 39:25
  parts
• 39:25
  of
• 39:25
  the
• 39:25
  country,
• 39:25
  depending
• 39:26
  on
• 39:26
  climate
• 39:26
  zones
• 39:27
  are
• 39:27
  getting
• 39:28
  even
• 39:28
  more
• 39:29
  concentive.
• 39:29
  So
• 39:29
  what
• 39:30
  you're
• 39:30
  seeing
• 39:30
  is
• 39:30
  they're
• 39:31
  having
• 39:31
  to
• 39:31
  put,
• 39:32
  let's
• 39:32
  say
• 39:33
  R30
• 39:34
  in
• 39:34
  the
• 39:34
  wall
• 39:35
  cavity,
• 39:35
  or
• 39:36
  they've
• 39:36
  got
• 39:36
  to
• 39:36
  do
• 39:36
  continuous
• 39:37
  insulation
• 39:38
  on
• 39:38
  outside
• 39:39
  of
• 39:39
  the
• 39:39
  stud
• 39:39
  wall.
• 39:40
  So
• 39:40
  you've
• 39:41
  got
• 39:41
  your
• 39:41
  sheeting
• 39:41
  up,
• 39:42
  and
• 39:42
  then
• 39:42
  you
• 39:42
  got
• 39:42
  to
• 39:42
  put
• 39:43
  2
• 39:43
  inch
• 39:44
  rockwool
• 39:44
  out
• 39:44
  there
• 39:45
  by
• 39:45
  the
• 39:45
  4
• 39:45
  by
• 39:45
  8
• 39:45
  sheet,
• 39:46
  then
• 39:47
  the
• 39:47
  siding,
• 39:47
  then
• 39:48
  the
• 39:48
  trim,
• 39:48
  then
• 39:48
  the
• 39:49
  other
• 39:49
  stuff
• 39:49
  out
• 39:49
  there.
• 39:50
  And
• 39:50
  I
• 39:50
  get
• 39:51
  that,
• 39:51
  but
• 39:52
  dang,
• 39:52
  that
• 39:52
  stuff's
• 39:53
  expensive.
• 39:53
  Huh?
• 39:54
  Rockwell's
• 39:55
  insane.
• 39:56
  Yeah,
• 39:57
  go
• 39:57
  build
• 39:57
  a
• 39:57
  music
• 39:58
  studio.
• 39:58
  You'd
• 39:58
  be
• 39:59
  like,
• 39:59
  yeah,
• 40:00
  wow.
• 40:00
  Okay.
• 40:01
  Yeah.
• 40:01
  But
• 40:02
  there's
• 40:02
  where
• 40:02
  the
• 40:02
  stuff
• 40:02
  adds
• 40:03
  up.
• 40:03
  That's
• 40:03
  where
• 40:03
  you
• 40:03
  look
• 40:03
  at
• 40:03
  it
• 40:04
  and
• 40:04
  go,
• 40:04
  okay,
• 40:04
  we
• 40:05
  need
• 40:05
  to
• 40:05
  come
• 40:05
  up
• 40:05
  with
• 40:05
  a
• 40:06
  better
• 40:06
  way
• 40:06
  to
• 40:06
  do
• 40:06
  that.
• 40:06
  And
• 40:07
  I.
• 40:08
  It
• 40:08
  was
• 40:08
  interesting.
• 40:08
  And
• 40:09
  this
• 40:09
  is
• 40:09
  another
• 40:09
  one
• 40:09
  of
• 40:09
  those
• 40:10
  things
• 40:10
  that,
• 40:10
  again,
• 40:11
  I
• 40:11
  appreciate
• 40:13
  that
• 40:13
  we're
• 40:13
  going
• 40:13
  for
• 40:13
  energy
• 40:14
  efficiency,
• 40:15
  but
• 40:16
  when
• 40:16
  Greg
• 40:17
  Holiday
• 40:17
  from
• 40:17
  Bradford
• 40:18
  White
• 40:18
  was
• 40:18
  on
• 40:18
  here
• 40:18
  saying
• 40:19
  that
• 40:19
  in
• 40:19
  just
• 40:20
  a
• 40:20
  handful
• 40:20
  of
• 40:20
  years,
• 40:21
  electric
• 40:22
  water
• 40:22
  heaters
• 40:23
  are
• 40:23
  going
• 40:24
  to
• 40:24
  be
• 40:24
  banned
• 40:24
  in
• 40:24
  the
• 40:24
  US
• 40:24
  they're
• 40:25
  going
• 40:25
  to
• 40:25
  go
• 40:25
  to
• 40:25
  heat
• 40:25
  pumps.
• 40:26
  So
• 40:26
  you're
• 40:27
  not
• 40:27
  going
• 40:27
  to
• 40:27
  have
• 40:27
  your
• 40:28
  dual
• 40:28
  4500
• 40:29
  watt
• 40:30
  heat
• 40:30
  pump,
• 40:31
  regular
• 40:31
  water
• 40:31
  heater
• 40:31
  you're
• 40:32
  going
• 40:32
  to
• 40:32
  go
• 40:32
  heat
• 40:32
  pumps.
• 40:33
  I
• 40:33
  get
• 40:33
  it,
• 40:33
  I
• 40:33
  love
• 40:34
  it.
• 40:34
  But
• 40:35
  again,
• 40:36
  that
• 40:36
  water
• 40:36
  heater
• 40:37
  is
• 40:37
  two
• 40:37
  to
• 40:37
  three
• 40:37
  times
• 40:37
  the
• 40:38
  price.
• 40:38
  And
• 40:38
  yes,
• 40:39
  it
• 40:39
  pays
• 40:39
  for
• 40:39
  itself
• 40:40
  quickly,
• 40:40
  but
• 40:41
  again,
• 40:41
  it
• 40:42
  doesn't
• 40:42
  help
• 40:43
  that
• 40:43
  first
• 40:43
  number.
• 40:43
  And
• 40:44
  to
• 40:44
  me,
• 40:44
  the
• 40:45
  50
• 40:45
  year
• 40:45
  mortgage
• 40:46
  as
• 40:46
  we
• 40:46
  talked
• 40:47
  about
• 40:47
  when
• 40:47
  they
• 40:47
  first
• 40:48
  came
• 40:49
  about
• 40:49
  it,
• 40:49
  isn't
• 40:50
  the
• 40:50
  answer.
• 40:51
  No,
• 40:51
  that's
• 40:52
  student
• 40:52
  loans.
• 40:52
  Again,
• 40:53
  we're
• 40:53
  back
• 40:53
  to
• 40:53
  that.
• 40:54
  It
• 40:54
  just
• 40:54
  doesn't
• 40:55
  make
• 40:55
  sense.
• 40:56
  Again,
• 40:57
  to
• 40:57
  just
• 40:57
  be
• 40:57
  frank.
• 40:58
  I
• 40:58
  just
• 40:58
  think
• 40:59
  they're
• 40:59
  running
• 41:00
  out
• 41:00
  of
• 41:00
  things
• 41:01
  to
• 41:01
  rip
• 41:01
  us
• 41:01
  off
• 41:02
  for.
• 41:02
  I
• 41:02
  remember
• 41:03
  the
• 41:03
  90s
• 41:04
  when
• 41:04
  it
• 41:04
  was
• 41:04
  windows
• 41:05
  had
• 41:05
  to
• 41:05
  be
• 41:05
  X
• 41:05
  and
• 41:06
  everything
• 41:06
  had
• 41:06
  to
• 41:07
  be
• 41:07
  airtight
• 41:07
  and
• 41:08
  wrapped
• 41:08
  in
• 41:08
  Tyvek.
• 41:09
  And
• 41:09
  now
• 41:09
  they're
• 41:09
  wrapping
• 41:10
  Rockwool
• 41:10
  on
• 41:11
  top
• 41:11
  of
• 41:11
  Tyvek
• 41:11
  and
• 41:12
  like,
• 41:13
  where
• 41:13
  does
• 41:13
  it
• 41:13
  end?
• 41:13
  They're
• 41:14
  running
• 41:14
  out
• 41:14
  of
• 41:14
  things.
• 41:15
  And
• 41:16
  you
• 41:17
  can't
• 41:17
  really
• 41:17
  justify
• 41:18
  tripling
• 41:19
  the
• 41:19
  cost
• 41:19
  of
• 41:19
  a
• 41:19
  permit
• 41:20
  in
• 41:20
  10
• 41:21
  to
• 41:21
  12
• 41:21
  years
• 41:23
  without
• 41:23
  coming
• 41:23
  up
• 41:23
  with
• 41:24
  some
• 41:24
  new
• 41:24
  stupid
• 41:25
  stuff
• 41:25
  to
• 41:25
  do.
• 41:26
  It's
• 41:26
  like
• 41:26
  the
• 41:27
  50
• 41:27
  year
• 41:27
  mortgage.
• 41:28
  You're
• 41:29
  paying
• 41:29
  twice
• 41:29
  the
• 41:30
  mortgage,
• 41:31
  twice
• 41:31
  the
• 41:31
  money
• 41:32
  to
• 41:32
  the
• 41:32
  mortgage
• 41:32
  company.
• 41:32
  I
• 41:33
  would
• 41:33
  rather
• 41:33
  see
• 41:34
  them
• 41:34
  out
• 41:34
  there
• 41:34
  say,
• 41:35
  okay,
• 41:36
  hey,
• 41:36
  if
• 41:36
  you
• 41:36
  need
• 41:36
  to
• 41:37
  upgrade
• 41:37
  your
• 41:37
  home,
• 41:38
  we're
• 41:38
  going
• 41:38
  to
• 41:38
  lock
• 41:39
  you
• 41:39
  in
• 41:39
  at
• 41:39
  your
• 41:39
  old
• 41:40
  interest
• 41:40
  rate.
• 41:41
  Yeah.
• 41:42
  So
• 41:42
  if
• 41:42
  you
• 41:42
  had
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  four
• 41:43
  and
• 41:43
  a
• 41:43
  half
• 41:43
  percent
• 41:44
  loan
• 41:45
  and
• 41:45
  you
• 41:45
  want
• 41:45
  to
• 41:45
  go
• 41:45
  buy
• 41:46
  another
• 41:46
  house
• 41:46
  and
• 41:46
  it's
• 41:46
  at
• 41:47
  seven
• 41:47
  and
• 41:47
  a
• 41:47
  half
• 41:48
  percent,
• 41:48
  I'd
• 41:49
  much
• 41:49
  rather
• 41:49
  see
• 41:50
  something
• 41:50
  like
• 41:50
  that
• 41:50
  where
• 41:50
  they're
• 41:50
  like,
• 41:51
  hey,
• 41:51
  we're
• 41:51
  going
• 41:51
  to
• 41:51
  lock
• 41:51
  it
• 41:51
  in
• 41:52
  here
• 41:52
  or
• 41:53
  we're
• 41:53
  going
• 41:53
  to
• 41:53
  do
• 41:53
  a
• 41:53
  fixed
• 41:54
  low
• 41:54
  interest
• 41:54
  rate
• 41:55
  for
• 41:55
  first
• 41:55
  time
• 41:55
  home
• 41:55
  buyers
• 41:56
  going
• 41:56
  to
• 41:56
  be
• 41:56
  at
• 41:57
  2.99%,
• 41:58
  period.
• 41:59
  Yeah,
• 42:00
  okay,
• 42:01
  that
• 42:01
  helps.
• 42:02
  Without
• 42:02
  going
• 42:03
  through
• 42:03
  the
• 42:04
  10
• 42:04
  year
• 42:04
  FHA
• 42:05
  process
• 42:05
  and
• 42:06
  50,000
• 42:07
  pages
• 42:07
  of
• 42:07
  nonsense.
• 42:08
  And
• 42:09
  I
• 42:09
  think
• 42:09
  we
• 42:09
  need
• 42:09
  to.
• 42:10
  Those
• 42:10
  are
• 42:10
  things
• 42:11
  that
• 42:11
  we
• 42:11
  need
• 42:11
  to
• 42:11
  figure
• 42:11
  out.
• 42:12
  And
• 42:12
  home
• 42:12
  insurance
• 42:13
  as
• 42:13
  well
• 42:13
  is
• 42:13
  another
• 42:13
  one.
• 42:14
  Look
• 42:14
  what
• 42:14
  people.
• 42:15
  My
• 42:15
  brother's
• 42:15
  trying
• 42:15
  to
• 42:15
  get
• 42:15
  his
• 42:16
  house
• 42:16
  in
• 42:16
  Yakima
• 42:16
  insured.
• 42:17
  And
• 42:18
  because
• 42:18
  it's
• 42:18
  a
• 42:18
  historical
• 42:19
  house,
• 42:20
  it's
• 42:21
  tough
• 42:21
  because
• 42:21
  of
• 42:21
  the.
• 42:22
  Built
• 42:22
  in
• 42:22
  the
• 42:22
  teens
• 42:22
  and
• 42:23
  twenties.
• 42:24
  Yeah.
• 42:24
  And
• 42:25
  it's
• 42:25
  got
• 42:25
  this
• 42:25
  special
• 42:26
  block
• 42:27
  that
• 42:27
  was
• 42:28
  made
• 42:28
  by
• 42:28
  Sears
• 42:29
  back
• 42:29
  in
• 42:29
  the
• 42:29
  day
• 42:29
  with
• 42:30
  this
• 42:30
  special
• 42:30
  Sears
• 42:30
  machine.
• 42:31
  There's
• 42:31
  one
• 42:32
  company
• 42:32
  that
• 42:32
  makes
• 42:32
  that
• 42:32
  block
• 42:33
  that's
• 42:33
  in.
• 42:34
  I
• 42:34
  think.
• 42:34
  Where
• 42:34
  are
• 42:34
  they
• 42:34
  at?
• 42:34
  I
• 42:35
  think
• 42:35
  they're
• 42:35
  out
• 42:35
  of
• 42:35
  Massachusetts.
• 42:36
  They'd
• 42:36
  have
• 42:36
  to
• 42:36
  haul
• 42:37
  it
• 42:37
  to
• 42:37
  eastern
• 42:37
  Washington.
• 42:39
  Okay.
• 42:40
  And
• 42:40
  so
• 42:40
  all
• 42:40
  of
• 42:40
  a
• 42:40
  sudden
• 42:41
  they're
• 42:41
  like,
• 42:41
  wow,
• 42:41
  you
• 42:42
  need
• 42:42
  to
• 42:42
  have
• 42:42
  two
• 42:43
  and
• 42:43
  a
• 42:43
  half
• 42:43
  million
• 42:43
  dollars
• 42:44
  to
• 42:44
  rebuild
• 42:44
  your
• 42:44
  house
• 42:45
  because
• 42:45
  all
• 42:45
  the
• 42:45
  specialty
• 42:46
  stuff
• 42:46
  that's
• 42:46
  in
• 42:46
  it.
• 42:47
  Yeah.
• 42:48
  And
• 42:48
  when
• 42:48
  you're,
• 42:48
  when
• 42:49
  your
• 42:49
  insurance
• 42:49
  is
• 42:50
  More
• 42:50
  than
• 42:50
  your
• 42:50
  mortgage.
• 42:52
  That
• 42:52
  should
• 42:52
  tell
• 42:52
  you
• 42:52
  something.
• 42:53
  Yeah.
• 42:54
  Oh,
• 42:55
  man,
• 42:55
  so
• 42:55
  many
• 42:56
  rants.
• 42:56
  Right?
• 42:56
  I
• 42:57
  know
• 42:57
  it.
• 42:57
  So
• 42:57
  you
• 42:58
  just
• 42:58
  spill
• 42:58
  right
• 42:58
  from.
• 42:59
  Spill
• 42:59
  right
• 43:00
  from
• 43:00
  homeowners
• 43:00
  insurance
• 43:01
  to
• 43:02
  mortgage
• 43:02
  insurance
• 43:03
  to
• 43:04
  property
• 43:05
  taxes,
• 43:05
  too.
• 43:07
  Yeah,
• 43:07
  it's
• 43:07
  endless.
• 43:08
  It
• 43:08
  just
• 43:08
  keeps
• 43:09
  going.
• 43:09
  Again,
• 43:09
  it
• 43:10
  frustrates
• 43:10
  me
• 43:11
  because
• 43:12
  I
• 43:12
  do
• 43:12
  get
• 43:13
  emotional.
• 43:13
  That's
• 43:14
  why
• 43:14
  I
• 43:14
  had
• 43:14
  to
• 43:14
  stop
• 43:14
  paying
• 43:14
  attention
• 43:15
  to
• 43:15
  a
• 43:15
  lot
• 43:15
  of
• 43:15
  that
• 43:15
  stuff
• 43:16
  because
• 43:16
  I
• 43:16
  just
• 43:16
  get
• 43:16
  so
• 43:17
  angry.
• 43:18
  Yeah.
• 43:18
  I'm
• 43:18
  so
• 43:19
  worked
• 43:19
  up.
• 43:19
  I'm
• 43:19
  like,
• 43:19
  man,
• 43:20
  I'm
• 43:20
  gonna
• 43:20
  have
• 43:20
  a
• 43:21
  heart
• 43:21
  attack
• 43:21
  over
• 43:21
  this
• 43:22
  stuff
• 43:22
  and
• 43:22
  there's
• 43:23
  nothing
• 43:23
  I
• 43:23
  can
• 43:23
  do
• 43:23
  about
• 43:24
  it.
• 43:24
  Absolutely.
• 43:25
  Absolutely.
• 43:26
  And
• 43:26
  it's
• 43:26
  one
• 43:26
  thing,
• 43:27
  I
• 43:27
  think,
• 43:27
  that
• 43:27
  to
• 43:27
  our
• 43:28
  audience
• 43:28
  out
• 43:28
  there,
• 43:29
  pay
• 43:29
  attention
• 43:30
  to
• 43:30
  what's
• 43:30
  going
• 43:30
  on
• 43:31
  when
• 43:32
  they
• 43:32
  come
• 43:32
  up
• 43:32
  with
• 43:32
  a
• 43:32
  levy.
• 43:33
  I
• 43:33
  love
• 43:33
  supporting
• 43:34
  schools.
• 43:35
  I
• 43:36
  love
• 43:36
  supporting
• 43:37
  our
• 43:37
  fire
• 43:38
  department.
• 43:38
  But
• 43:39
  are
• 43:39
  these
• 43:39
  people
• 43:40
  using
• 43:40
  your
• 43:40
  money
• 43:41
  correctly
• 43:41
  from
• 43:42
  what
• 43:42
  you
• 43:42
  can
• 43:42
  see?
• 43:42
  Have
• 43:43
  they
• 43:43
  been
• 43:43
  audited?
• 43:43
  Do
• 43:44
  you
• 43:44
  know
• 43:44
  what
• 43:44
  they're
• 43:44
  doing
• 43:44
  with
• 43:45
  it?
• 43:45
  Yeah.
• 43:46
  Sometimes
• 43:47
  saying
• 43:48
  no
• 43:49
  gets
• 43:49
  people
• 43:49
  to
• 43:49
  realize
• 43:50
  that
• 43:50
  they've
• 43:50
  got
• 43:50
  to
• 43:51
  do
• 43:51
  something
• 43:51
  a
• 43:51
  little
• 43:51
  bit
• 43:52
  differently.
• 43:52
  For
• 43:52
  you,
• 43:53
  there
• 43:53
  has
• 43:53
  to
• 43:53
  be
• 43:53
  accountability.
• 43:54
  And
• 43:54
  you're
• 43:55
  exactly
• 43:55
  right.
• 43:55
  It's
• 43:56
  by
• 43:56
  paying
• 43:56
  attention
• 43:57
  and
• 43:57
  being
• 43:57
  informed.
• 43:59
  Because
• 43:59
  so
• 43:59
  much
• 43:59
  of
• 44:00
  that
• 44:00
  passes
• 44:00
  by.
• 44:00
  We're
• 44:01
  so
• 44:01
  busy
• 44:01
  supersizing
• 44:02
  and
• 44:03
  being
• 44:03
  busy
• 44:04
  that
• 44:04
  we
• 44:04
  let
• 44:05
  it
• 44:05
  just
• 44:05
  keep
• 44:05
  rolling.
• 44:05
  And
• 44:06
  rolling
• 44:07
  and
• 44:07
  we've
• 44:07
  got
• 44:07
  to
• 44:08
  stop
• 44:08
  it.
• 44:08
  Otherwise
• 44:09
  it's
• 44:09
  going
• 44:09
  to
• 44:09
  be
• 44:10
  even
• 44:10
  worse
• 44:10
  for
• 44:10
  the
• 44:10
  next
• 44:10
  generation
• 44:11
  if
• 44:11
  we
• 44:11
  don't
• 44:11
  get
• 44:11
  this
• 44:12
  dialed,
• 44:12
  man.
• 44:13
  Yeah.
• 44:13
  And
• 44:13
  I
• 44:13
  suppose
• 44:14
  every
• 44:14
  generation
• 44:15
  says
• 44:15
  that,
• 44:15
  but
• 44:15
  now
• 44:15
  that
• 44:15
  I'm
• 44:16
  an
• 44:16
  old
• 44:16
  guy,
• 44:16
  I'm
• 44:16
  like,
• 44:16
  oh,
• 44:17
  man,
• 44:17
  I
• 44:17
  can't
• 44:17
  imagine.
• 44:18
  We'Ve
• 44:18
  got
• 44:19
  Gen
• 44:19
  Zers
• 44:19
  or
• 44:20
  whoever
• 44:20
  out
• 44:20
  there
• 44:20
  going,
• 44:20
  oh,
• 44:20
  those
• 44:21
  two
• 44:21
  boomers
• 44:21
  talking
• 44:21
  on
• 44:22
  the
• 44:22
  radio
• 44:22
  and
• 44:22
  the
• 44:22
  podcast
• 44:23
  right
• 44:23
  now.
• 44:23
  I'm
• 44:24
  sure
• 44:24
  my.
• 44:24
  My
• 44:24
  grandpa
• 44:25
  said
• 44:25
  the
• 44:25
  same
• 44:25
  thing
• 44:25
  in
• 44:25
  the
• 44:26
  50s,
• 44:26
  right?
• 44:27
  Exactly.
• 44:27
  But
• 44:28
  that's
• 44:28
  the
• 44:29
  thing,
• 44:29
  man.
• 44:29
  So,
• 44:29
  Johnny,
• 44:30
  thanks
• 44:30
  for
• 44:30
  coming
• 44:30
  on
• 44:31
  today,
• 44:31
  man.
• 44:31
  We
• 44:31
  blasted
• 44:32
  through
• 44:32
  this
• 44:32
  hour.
• 44:32
  We
• 44:33
  could
• 44:33
  have
• 44:33
  ranted
• 44:33
  for
• 44:33
  another
• 44:34
  two
• 44:34
  hours.
• 44:34
  This
• 44:34
  could
• 44:34
  have
• 44:35
  been
• 44:35
  like
• 44:35
  a.
• 44:35
  Oh
• 44:36
  yeah,
• 44:36
  four
• 44:36
  hour
• 44:37
  Joe
• 44:37
  Rogan
• 44:37
  going
• 44:37
  on
• 44:38
  this.
• 44:38
  But
• 44:38
  wanted
• 44:38
  to
• 44:38
  keep
• 44:38
  it
• 44:39
  tight
• 44:39
  for
• 44:39
  you
• 44:39
  guys
• 44:39
  to
• 44:40
  make
• 44:40
  sure
• 44:40
  that
• 44:40
  give
• 44:40
  you
• 44:41
  some
• 44:41
  food
• 44:41
  for
• 44:41
  thought,
• 44:42
  see
• 44:42
  what
• 44:43
  you
• 44:43
  can
• 44:43
  do
• 44:43
  in
• 44:43
  your
• 44:43
  area.
• 44:44
  Maybe
• 44:44
  we
• 44:44
  can
• 44:45
  start
• 44:45
  this
• 44:45
  as
• 44:46
  a
• 44:46
  grassroots
• 44:46
  to
• 44:47
  get
• 44:47
  things
• 44:47
  dialed
• 44:47
  back
• 44:47
  in
• 44:48
  out
• 44:48
  there.
• 44:49
  Gotta
• 44:49
  start
• 44:49
  there.
• 44:50
  Absolutely.
• 44:51
  Johnny,
• 44:52
  great
• 44:52
  to
• 44:52
  see
• 44:52
  you
• 44:52
  today,
• 44:53
  brother.
• 44:53
  All
• 44:53
  right,
• 44:54
  everybody,
• 44:54
  if
• 44:54
  you
• 44:54
  want
• 44:54
  to
• 44:54
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• 44:55
  out
• 44:55
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• 44:55
  from
• 44:55
  us
• 44:56
  here,
• 44:56
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• 44:57
  over
• 44:57
  to
• 44:57
  our
• 44:57
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• 44:57
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• 44:58
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• 45:00
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• 45:00
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• 45:00
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• 45:03
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• 45:04
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• 45:04
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• 45:05
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• 45:07
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• 45:08
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• 45:08
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• 45:08
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• 45:09
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• 45:11
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